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Roman Candle / xglypretty · The BlackSheep Podcast: Presented by HM Magazine

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  Today we have Piper from Roman Candle super stoked about this episode. Piper,
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  Colin and I a few weeks ago saw we you know, got tickets for
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  Dying Wish. We actually we had interviewed Dying Wish like a month or so
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  ago, I don't remember exactly, but then the episode came out probably a
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  month or so ago, and on tour they like were like, yeah,
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  we're coming through Minneapolis, and so Colin and I were like, well,
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  let's just like go I live in Minneapolis. Colin was like wanting to come
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  up anyway, and so went to Dying Wish really not having listened to like
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  some of the other bands that were on the bill. And then then we
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  saw you guys, and we're like, holy shit, this is so good.
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  And there's you know, you some I'm sure you get this a lot
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  where you like sit through some of those like opening bands where sometimes you're like
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  not super stoked about it, you're just but like you guys were like,
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  holy cow, we were so so impressed by just the sound, the stage
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  presence, just everything about it was so incredible. So we're really stoked and
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  hoping, you know, whatever little we can do to get some more listeners
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  to Roam and Candle, We're all about it because we're really really big fans
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  already. Thank you so much. I appreciate that. That show in Minneapolis,
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  I think was one of my favorites of the whole tour, which I
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  wasn't expecting at all. It was so was crazy. It was packed by
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  that time of the night. It was awesome. It was great cool.
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  Yeah, uh so this is you just got done with a great tour.
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  From the sounds of it, big one. Uh did you have fun?
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  Yeah, it was a lot of fun. It was very overwhelming at first.
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  I'm not gonna lie. The first like week or two was a very
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  weird adjustment for me. But after that I had a good time. It
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  was fun. I was just with my besties hanging out. I felt like,
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  yeah, so was this like your was this like your first big tour?
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  This is our first tour ever. I mean we've done the first tour
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  ever, like ever ever, Like we haven't even toured for like a week,
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  like before November. We did like a bunch of weekend runs like in
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  neighboring states like Arizona and in California. We've played a thousand like Southern California
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  shows. But this was our first like full like getting in a van and
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  driving out and doing the whole thing tour. Wow, have and have you
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  like been in a band before where you've toured or is this like truly like
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  not even just first Roman Candle tour, but like the first two ever for
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  you? First who or ever ever ours in bands when he was younger that
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  toured for like a week or two. Our drummer was in a band when
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  he was fourteen that went on tour for a week. But for me and
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  our basis Nico, this was our first tour ever. Wow. What Yeah,
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  it was because you guys do not sound like a like like newbies at
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  all. Like you guys sound like you're basically a supergroup, like like a
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  bunch of road dog veterans who've done this before. Like I I you would
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  have fooled me. I'll tell you that much. I appreciate that. Thank
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  you. The people in my band that play instruments do they do that very
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  well and they've been doing it well you do as well. Thank you.
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  Thank you on the level you know they're there are those boys are on another
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  level and it's cool to like go and do that alongside them. Yeah,
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  what was the thing that maybe surprised you the most about tours? And I
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  would imagine, like you, you certainly have been listening to music for a
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  long time. I'm sure you may even know musicians that have toured, and
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  so maybe you had like some sort of expectation around what touring was like.
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  But was there anything that came up where you're like, oh, my goodness,
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  I had no idea that this was going to be a part of the
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  tour life for even like a month or so. I think it was like
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  the merch that like stressed me out the most on tour that I really think
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  about because I designed it and I'm the one that puts it up on the
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  side and packs the orders like that that's my job in the band. And
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  I was not expecting like the stress that comes along with selling merch out a
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  show. I didn't think it would be that big of a deal. I
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  thought, yeah, I just grabbing shure, you're handing it to someone that
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  sit boom. But there's so many like small little details that if you fuck
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  up one thing, like your whole night's going to be like Rocky. And
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  I didn't understand that. I didn't get it, and I understand why,
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  like merch people are a thing now, like we are going to have a
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  merch person from now on, because it was like the biggest stress for it
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  was insane. So so what was one of those little things that you were
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  just worried is gonna get fucked up every single day? Like inventory, like
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  keeping track of what we have was one thing, and another thing was I
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  didn't bring enough, Like we did a lot better on merch than I was
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  expecting to. And what's a good problem to have? Right essentially? Yeah,
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  definitely, yeah, not complaining, but like we had to None of
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  us have really driven a van with a trailer reforce, but we had to
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  rent a trailer like a week and a tour like rush order a whole bunch
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  of merch to get it or else we wouldn't have made any money this tour.
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  And just I guess keeping track of all that and also not being home
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  and able like to sit down at my desk and do it, like trying
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  to just do it in the van is like that was stressful. That was
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  like I cried a couple times trying to get all that shit like figured out
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  Wow, yeah, no, that that sounds that sounds awful. It was.
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  I mean it was fun, like good learning experience for sure. To
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  do it again, yeah next time, for sure. I'm sure you much
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  would have rather been out, like just hanging out with fans or talking with
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  the other bands or just just doing your thing instead of having to have that
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  stress the entire time. Definitely, Yeah, I think I would have had
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  a lot more fun if that wasn't in the back of my mind the entire
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  right, Yeah, Because it's like you think of like the show as like
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  a job, right, and you finish that, and then it's like,
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  wait, no, I'm actually I'm still like on call right now, and
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  I'm still like on my shift because now you have to go and run merch
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  as well. Yeah, exactly, there's that. And then also like I'm
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  still on the clock when I'm in the van because I'm like answering dams and
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  I'm answering emails and like I also have my own shit going on, like
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  trying to stuggle like the design stuff too. It was like for a month
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  straight, like literally NonStop. I felt like I couldn't breathe. But it
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  was good, Like I'm not complaining. It was a good NonStop I love
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  that feeling of like being busy, but I was not expecting to be that
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  overwhelmed for sure. Yeah, definitely. Well, let's talk about the music
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  for a little bit. I think Mason actually had like him and I were
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  talking in the crowd while while we were watching, and he, I think
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  explained it the best, Mason, how would you describe Roman Candle to our
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  listeners? I don't even remember what I said, like, but I'm glad
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  that it was something that you remember. Okay, so I'll do it for
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  you. You're like, you're like, man, that's like an emo riff.
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  That's like a Midwest nineties emo riff. I was like, dude,
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  it totally is. And then like all of a sudden, next like next
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  section of the song immediately was like thrash metal, like I mean, like
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  fun hardcore music. And then it goes into like some all like all of
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  a sudden, some crazy almost like two thousands new metal riffs, and I
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  was like, this is It's all over the place, but it's so cohesive.
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  At the same time, it's got so much nuance, like everywhere in
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  the in the music. It's so much fun. It's it's not something that
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  we hear every day. Thank you. Yeah, I really really appreciate that.
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  We we try. We don't. When we started writing the first EP
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  that we did, we didn't want to fit into any specific genre. Like
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  obviously, you know, we're like a hardcore band, we're hardcore kids,
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  but like we want to be able to play kind of any space and that's
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  that's been our goal. And it's cool that that's translating well to the definitely
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  definitely oh and post rock. There was some post rock in there too,
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It reminds me of a lot of
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  like the stuff early on with Rice, you know, when they were you
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  know, like doing their stuff in the early two thousands. There even was
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  like a Colin and I grew up in like the Christian kind of hardcore world,
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  but there was a in the early mid two thousands called Life in Your
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  Way that was a melodic hardcore band, and there was a lot of riffs
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  that I heard where I was like, oh my gosh, that like reminds
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  me of listening to Life in Your Way back in when I was like in
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  fifth and sixth grade or whatever. And so there was just a lot of
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  those kind of riffs where I'm like, this feels like it's like transporting me
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  back to two thousand and five, two thousand and six, and then you
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  would also cure some of the other stuff where I'm like, oh my god,
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  this is like melt, this is melting your face or melt your face
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  kind of riffs or whatever. And so you just like had the diversity of
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  it all that was really fascinating. And again, like, you don't hear
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  that a ton, although I know that there is some level of like nostalgia
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  that some people have where they're bringing back some of the like the new metal
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  stuff you hear a little bit more now and whatnot. But again, it
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  just feels like this is something that feels fresh and new because you don't hear
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  a lot of like newer bands making some of these sounds anymore. Thank you,
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  No, I really I really appreciate that. Thank you. Yeah.
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  Well, I think that's that's why you guys caught our eye a little more
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  than than a lot of the other new bands that are out there right now.
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  Just it's clear there's there's there's a great sense of songwriting, there's a
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  great sense of of of skill within the band, like every single member you
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  especially like Week, you can command a stage awesome to see. So it's
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  just great all around. We want to talk to you guys up because we
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  think that listeners should definitely be listening to you guys because you're that good.
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  Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. Yeah, let's also talk
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  about your design, your design work, because it is fantastic as well.
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  I know Mason and I have been googling at it for a couple of weeks
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  now and we're just in love. Like it's it's it's kind of along those
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  same lines, like it has like old school hardcore feel at the same time,
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  like kind of pushing some boundaries some cool like clash kind of stuff.
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  Like I'm really a fan of it. What uh, what got you into
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  design? Like like this very unique sense of design that you have. I
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  think it was gosh, I'm trying to think honestly, I just kind of
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  stumbled into design. I was doing photography for a really long time and I
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  felt like I was lacking like some sort of like creative element to photography.
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  It felt very like technical and I was going to quit it all together.
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  And I was like had this plan where I was going to fucking go to
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  school for like software engineering and just like fuck all that like art nonsense.
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  And then I stumbled across the work of Roy Cranson on Adobe b hands and
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  he's like one of my favorite designers ever, and I was like, oh,
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  I don't know you can make art like that. And then I like
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  learned he did in a photoshop and I was like, damn, I know
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  how to use photoshop. And I was in a band at the time called
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  Stoe Without. It was a stupid like scream oh band, and I just
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  started making merch for that band and it started doing well, and then people
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  asked me to make merch for their bands, and obviously I love like that
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  late nineties early two thousands hardcore stuff. So I just kind of stole a
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  bunch of shit from that and ended up where I'm at now. I love
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  it. It was not intentional. I just like tripped into it. It
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  was kind of crazy. It's great. It so is that where you your
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  massive like Instagram following came from and everything was was your design first. Yeah,
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  design first. It I don't think hardly an even has to do with
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  the band. If I'm being honest, I think most of it is design.
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  I did this thing where I posted I did a poster like almost every
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  single day for like a year and a half straight, and my following just
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  kept going up like crazy from that. Wow, And it was all it
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  was all organic. There wasn't like some like TikTok out there or something like
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  that that like just like skyrocketed you overnight. I don't know a lot of
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  artists that are capable of doing that. I'm not gonna lie Banks, he
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  can't even do that. It happens on accident. Recently, I had I
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  had this stupid reel that I made where it was just like me and Jonas,
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  our guitarists, literally filmed the video where I'm just like cheersing the camera
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  with a cup of coffee and I'm like, this is what I look like,
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  and this is my art looks like. And I got like one point
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  three million views. Midway through tour, I got like fifteen thousand followers from
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  it out of nowhere. Wow. That was the only thing like that that
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  has happened. Other than that, everything else has just been like kind of
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  a slow, steady growth. So how are you dealing with that? That
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  like minor celebrity status. It's weird. But by the way, Mason also
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  has minor celebrity status and it's going to do his head hardcore yees oh yeah,
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  yeah, so so much my head. It's weird. It's it's like
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  I feel like, in a design sense, there's a lot of smaller bands
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  that are scared to approach me now because they see I have a big Instagram
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  following, even though my rapes haven't really changed much from twenty thousand to sixty
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  thousand, Like it's still the same, I'm still the same person. And
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  then like I don't know, sometimes like they'll be girls that shows, like
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  younger girls that come up and talk to me, and the way they're like
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  interacting with me is so like bizarre, Like like this girl literally comes up
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  to me at our march table and salt like and she's going like this,
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  like she's covering her eyes and she won't look. It's so nice too.
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  I don't know, Like I am twenty three, I'm not like a fucking
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  like like old ass like legend in the music world, like just just talk
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  to me like it's okay. And there's there's been a few interactions like that
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  that like just kind of really throw me off. But it's interesting, Well
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  I get what they mean. I think I did the exact same thing,
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  not not quite like the the hand over the eyes, but I was like,
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  I was a little nervous talking to you, especially after looking up on
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  on on Instagram. It was you have a presence about you. I think
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  you know there's something there. I appreciate it. I don't get it.
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  I don't see that side. I feel like I'm just a girl, like
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  I'm literally just like what's up, Like I'm here Gwen Stefani style, Right,
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  Yeah, I love that great. So, Piper, let's hear about
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  kind of the history of Roman Candle, like how you guys started. Obviously
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  your newer band, you've got the one EP out that came out last year.
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  Uh yeah, how did the band start and kind of where and again
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  like you guys just finished your first tour, so obviously there's like not a
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  ton of history that's involved quite yet, but I love to hear like how
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  you guys started and where you're at now for sure. Yeah. So,
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  I, like I mentioned, was in this band called So Without. It
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  was like very basic like bedroom SCRAMs, like we recorded the EP in a
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  closet. It was not supposed to be anything. So Without starting to get
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  a little bit of Traction and then our the guy I started So Without with
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  my friend of Cody, he left the band, and Jonas, the guitarist
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  of Roman Candle now was and so Without for a little bit, and him
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  and I tried to like keep so Without alive for a little bit, and
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  then eventually I was like, fuck this, I want to start something now.
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  And that's how Roman Candle started. And then we hit a Bryson who
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  Bryson's nineteen. He knows Jonas because he was in a band with Jonas's son.
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  Oh, Bryson is like the best drummer I've ever met in my life,
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  Like, yeah, my band, He's crazy, he's but we all
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  kind of bonded over our love for that like late nineties, early two thousands,
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  like scream o, hardcore, like all that stuff. That's all of
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  our favorite genre. So that's kind of how how it started. And then
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  we just went from there. Killer. So how long did it take for
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  you to get some of these songs scrounged up together and put out on an
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  EP? Not long at all. I think it took us. Gosh,
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  I could be wrong, and Jonas will probably like come at me and tell
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  me I was wrong about this later, but I think it took us like
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  a month maybe less than that, because we had like like Mad Girl was
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  supposed to be a so without song. Yeah, so then we just kind
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  of we worked it a little bit, made it a Roman Candle song,
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  and then Jonas and I wrote Dreamer, and Bryson and Jonas wrote Survivor's Guilt
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  and the rest of them were all pretty collaborative. There are a couple that,
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  like I would write it with at home and then bring it to the
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  table. But it didn't take long at all. We had nothing else going
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  on, like no one else was in another band. We were all just
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  kind of I don't know. It was just for fun too, Like I
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  didn't really expect any of this to happen. It wasn't our goal with it.
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  We just put it out to have fun. We expected to play a
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  couple out of state shows, like maybe some shows in LA some shows and
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  arras and that would be it. We weren't like expecting this whole full US
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  tour and any of that. It's it's been crazy. So so how did
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  how did Dyang wish Uh come to know you guys so that they brought you
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  out on tour or was that or was that kind of like managers that that
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  deal with that or how does that work? I think that was I'm not
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  sure, but I think it was our agents. We got hit up by
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  Jacob's Sound Talent Group a couple of months ago, and then this was the
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  first tour he pitched us on, and I believe all the other bands on
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  the tour also with Sound Talent Group, just with different agents in the in
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  the agency, yeah gotcha. Emma was talking you up like crazy. So
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  that's so sweet, dude, they are to tour with them for our first
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  tour especially, was a dream, Like they're all so nice and they're so
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  talented and so inspiring. I could go on about it for hours like it
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  was. It was a dream. I love it. That's great. So
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  Piper being obviously in like two different creative indus obviously being in graphic design and
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  then obviously now with the music, I'm curious like if have you found as
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  a creative there to be maybe a different creative process between the music and the
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  design. Maybe there's obviously similarities I would imagine too, but I'm curious,
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  like how you enter into that creative space when you're doing graphic design, work
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  versus music work, and I'm curious, like what the similarities and the differences
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  are between those two. I love that question. I feel like for me,
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  it's very very different. Like the space I go into when I'm writing
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  music is very like and I don't want to sound like super emo and like
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  edgy when I say this, but it's like it's not like a good place,
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  Like I don't really love being in that space, you know, like
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  when when Jonathan and I are recording vocals for new songs, like I procrastinate
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  for as long as possible because it's such like a bad headspace to be in.
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  But with design, like it's it's just fun. It's just something like
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  like I wake up in the morning and I drink coffee and I'm fucking whooping
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  on my computer. Whereas with music it's very like, oh man, I
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  gotta like sing about the worst thing that's ever happened to me over and over
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  and over and over again to take and I gotta write the stupid little chord
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  on guitar that is the most pressed depressing chord I can think of, you
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  know, like, like shit like that. It's just very it's two very
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  very different worlds and it's hard to kind of jump back and forth all the
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  time. Yeah, that sounds that sounds brutal. It's like it's like the
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  what is it the doctor Hyde or doctors the actor Jackal and yeah, I
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  couldn't think doctor. Yeah. I kind of feels that way. I feel
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  like I entered like a completely different world when I'm doing music stuff. Yeah.
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  Yeah, Wow, Dan, that's crazy. I would have thought there
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  were more similarities, but it sounds like it's just really really me for me.
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  No, I think if like Roman Candle was a happier band maybe,
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  Like I don't know, because like when when I'm designing, I feel like
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  I'm working and I feel like in order to get the work done, I
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  need to be like in a positive headspace and I need to be like excited
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  about what I'm doing. And I'm excited when I'm writing music, but not
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  excited in the way it feels like like cathartic. I guess like it's very
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  like I'm getting this out of my system instead of like, yeah, it's
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  it's exciting in the same way of like you know, going to therapy is
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  excessing, Yeah, the same way. That's a really good way to put
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  it. Yeah, Well, who coined the term make hardcore negative? Again,
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  I don't remember. I don't remember who coined that term, but it's
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  a brilliant term. And there are like a band that's selling all those shirts
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  right now. Yeah, there's someone that's selling that shirt. But that's a
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  quote I've heard for a while now. But whoever said it? I mean
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  what you were just describing there sounds very uh, you know, telling for
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  the situation, Piper. I would imagine maybe like I don't know if it
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  was like a month ago or two months ago, but you remember the whole
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  like TikTok meme of like asking a boyfriend or a loved one if they are
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  especially like a guy, if they have like how often they think about the
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  Roman Empire? Yes you remember this being like a big thing. Yes,
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  I'm not a designer. Do what you you know, do what what you
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  know, do whatever you want with this, But I think there'd be a
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  fun design where it's like you know that little like how often do you think
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  that? A conversation where it's like you ask, like your boyfriend, like
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  how often do you think about Roman candle? And you know, however you
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  want it? But I don't know, I want, like, I wonder
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  if there's like something there to be, you know, like, how often
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  do you think about Roman Candle. You're onto something. It's got to be
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  a meme, right, that's gotta be already did it. I can't.
• 20:29
  They're going to bully me if your friends already did it. That's my friend
• 20:33
  here in town, Katie already posted. I'm not even the first person to
• 20:36
  think about this. I thought I was so original. I wish I could
• 20:40
  do something with it. That was my plan. But she beat me to
• 20:41
  it and got a lot of les, so I can't steal it. Either
• 20:45
  that you got to steal like a gladiator quote or something like that. Right,
• 20:49
  entertained me very well. No, I mean it doesn't really fit the
• 20:56
  motif of the band in general, but there is a gladiator to coming out
• 21:00
  with Pedro Pascal. So maybe maybe there's gonna be a new batch of of
• 21:07
  good Rome, you know, connotations you can use thinking about the Empire every
• 21:11
  day. Yeah, maybe more Pedro Pascal, but you know what I mean,
• 21:17
  I know I would be all right. Top five Top five most influential
• 21:23
  influential Okay, okay, opposite of December poison the world for sure of course.
• 21:32
  I think an autobiography by Old Gray is up there for Old Gray,
• 21:37
  Old Gray or Old Greg Old Old Gray. Do you know who Old Greg
• 21:42
  is? Do not do yourself a favor directly after this and go look up
• 21:48
  Old Greg. You'll have a blast. It's the greatest video that to ever
• 21:52
  exists. Old Gray. Oh they're like not like early two thousands, they're
• 21:56
  they're a little bit newer. Yeah they are, there were, but they
• 22:00
  were one of the bands that got me into this, like like especially a
• 22:03
  lot of the like really slow to really like fast and heavy, like those
• 22:07
  abrupt transitions. I got a lot of inspiration from Old Gray with that.
• 22:11
  I have. I have a tattoo of that album cover right here. Oh
• 22:15
  yeah, I have a tattoo of Old Greg on this. Oh yeah,
• 22:18
  that's crazy. Yeah, I think, oh my god, this is such
• 22:26
  a hard question. Lyrically Unknown Rooms by Chelsea Wolf. Oh okay, yes,
• 22:33
  inspiration for me great? She uh what what the album? And I
• 22:38
  don't remember, uh what's the album cover where she looks? So I think
• 22:45
  it was like twenty seventeen. Oh his his fun. The album's great.
• 22:51
  That album cover I remember seeing that a number of years ago. Having no
• 22:55
  idea who she was or anything, but just seeing that album cover once posted,
• 22:59
  and it was like, that is like the darkest, like kind of
• 23:02
  scary album cover I've seen in a long time. And and then found out
• 23:06
  like the music is also unbelievable and dark, and oh god, she is
• 23:11
  unbelievable. He's my favorite musician ever. I think, did you did?
• 23:15
  You must have listened to her collaboration with Converge as well, right, Yeah?
• 23:19
  That blood Moon is such Yeah, it's really super sick. Big fan
• 23:27
  of Chelsea Wolf over here. God what else I think? Uh, the
• 23:32
  whole Sea discography is very influential for us collectively. And also I think two
• 23:41
  self titled like the first full length they did that one. I think I
• 23:45
  think those would be my top five for the band. I love it.
• 23:48
  That's great, That's really great. These are these are like exactly what I'm
• 23:52
  expecting from Okay exactly. It feels like it feels like all the pieces of
• 23:59
  the cake, all the ingredients are there ready to be mixed up, and
• 24:03
  what you get is a Roman candle birthday cake. So that's perfect. Yep.
• 24:08
  Yeah. So one other question I have to ask is what is one
• 24:14
  album cover as a like from a design perspective, you're like, Wow,
• 24:18
  I cannot believe how awesome this is. And what's one album cover you want
• 24:22
  to drag? Oh oh, that's such a good question. Also, have
• 24:29
  you beside your own album cover, have you ever designed an album cover or
• 24:33
  like, would that's like what I do like on the day to day album
• 24:38
  covers in particular. Yeah, I didn't know that. Okay, cool.
• 24:41
  I'm trying to think the last album cover I did. It was for this
• 24:45
  band called Cursed Form out of I think that out of Portland. I think
• 24:48
  I did a cover for their AP That was the last project I just finished
• 24:52
  a week ago. Gosh, that is such a good question. Favorite album
• 24:56
  cover. I should know this. I should just have like spic from a
• 25:00
  design perspective. From a design perspective, oh man, I feel like a
• 25:04
  lot of my favorite album covers, surprisingly are covers with just pictures on them,
• 25:08
  Like I love the most recent Crystal Castle's album cover with all the kids
• 25:15
  on it, like with the blacked out eyes. I love that cover even
• 25:18
  though it's not like a design thing at all. I really, you know,
• 25:21
  I really like the most recent Knock Loose album cover. That one's really
• 25:26
  really good. I don't remember the designer's me. I know I follow him
• 25:27
  on Instagram really good. And then album cover I want to drag. I
• 25:33
  have something I want to say, but I can't because I almost worked on
• 25:37
  it, and then what the band came out with. I hate it so
• 25:38
  much, but I don't think I should say it. But it was the
• 25:41
  person that just popped in my head. You can, you can tell us
• 25:44
  after. I'll tell you guys after. Yeah, I'm sorry, this is
• 25:48
  taking me so long. No, that's fine. It's hard to be put
• 25:51
  on the spot. I feel like, honestly, every single scream Oh album
• 25:56
  cover kind of sucks, all of them, like, like every single one,
• 26:02
  Like it's always the same thing. It's like brown paper bag with like
• 26:04
  writing coffee stains, and like that's the thing I hate. I hate that
• 26:10
  so much. Like there is so much room for creativity. Your band is
• 26:12
  so good, but I don't want to listen to it because you broke your
• 26:17
  band's name on the back of a paper bag and called it a day.
• 26:22
  Orchid just recently announced that they're doing like a few reunion shows, and like,
• 26:26
  I don't know, you know how much you know about Orchid, But
• 26:29
  like Orchid's. Orchid's album covers were just like notoriously bad and or at least
• 26:34
  I think they're really bad. But they're also like that's exactly what you expect
• 26:37
  from like little garage band scream. Oh shit, I know that's like part
• 26:42
  of like the thing is like, oh, it's not supposed to be good.
• 26:45
  But that's what I don't like about that genre. That's why I hate
• 26:48
  when people like callis SCRAMs in general, because like the whole thing is it's
• 26:51
  not supposed to be good. It's like what if what if one part of
• 26:55
  it was good? Though? Right, Like at least the music or the
• 26:57
  album covers at least makes it make something good about it Exactly. It takes
• 27:02
  two seconds to find a cool picture, and just like call out a Day,
• 27:04
  I feel like it takes more to grab like a cardboard box or a
• 27:11
  paperback and write your name on and the scan it and do the whole thing
• 27:14
  than it does to just go to a thrift store and find a cool picture.
• 27:17
  Yeah. In fact, Mason, Mason and I do this all the
• 27:18
  time through text. We'll just text back and forth like pictures that we think
• 27:22
  would be really good album covers for different genres that we've or that we've like
• 27:26
  taken on our phones in particular. Yeah, yeah, pictures that we've taken
• 27:30
  personally, and it's always like accidental accidental good ones like Mason, can you
• 27:36
  pull up the most recent one? Yeah, I'm trying to. Well,
• 27:37
  you had the one with your kids too, that was awesome. Yeah,
• 27:41
  oh here, here we go. This one is just great. Literally,
• 27:47
  put like a like a fucking film filter over that boom. Yeah, that's
• 27:51
  what I'm talking about album cover, Yeah, totally, yeah, exactly.
• 27:56
  There was a great one too that this like doorway that was like a broken
• 28:00
  door and it was in this great doorway that almost felt like very i don't
• 28:03
  know, sinister looking. It was great. Oh I got I got one
• 28:07
  more I gotta find Oh here it is. This is the other one that
• 28:11
  I thought would be Oh yeah, you sent me that one too. Oh
• 28:15
  my god. Yeah. It's like it's not really focused very well. But
• 28:18
  the way the shadows, I like, the way like the kids looking up
• 28:23
  at the camera too. Yeah, just that angle. Yeah how long can
• 28:27
  you take that picture? Like? Yeah? Literally it was it was like
• 28:30
  he was crying a little bit, like he has like welled up eyes a
• 28:34
  little bit, so I'm like, you know, it's like perfect, what
• 28:37
  a nerd is crying? So, yeah, it was perfect. That's how
• 28:41
  quick it would you know take you know, that's how long it would take
• 28:45
  to literally create a cool album cover. And yet some of these early scream
• 28:48
  bands didn't even put that much effort into it. Uh, Piper, what
• 28:56
  do you want to plug? Obviously the EP is out from last year.
• 29:00
  I don't know, like, is there any new music that we can expect
• 29:02
  in twenty twenty four? What do you want to what do you want to
• 29:06
  tell people about what's going on in Roman Candle. Yeah, so we are
• 29:08
  recording all of January. We're releasing our first full length sometime next year.
• 29:14
  Okay, good. We're with Military Gun oh lastic. Yeah, very excited
• 29:19
  for that. Holy Gun death bells, No, I'm not sure actually death.
• 29:26
  I know it's military gun and spiritual cramp and in space and you know
• 29:30
  what I need I need to see because if I just said death bells and
• 29:33
  it's not death bells, I want to look like a cut that maybe the
• 29:38
  first time that has ever been uttered on this podcast. I'm glad. I'm
• 29:42
  glad. That's awesome. Military Gun. Cool kids, Spiritual Cramp and Death
• 29:48
  Lens. I said death Bells because we played like three shows with them in
• 29:52
  our short amount of time as a band. That should be really cool.
• 29:55
  Very excited for that full length. Hopefully will come out not long after January.
• 30:00
  I'm hoping it's I don't have an official release date yet because it's not
• 30:03
  done, but it's going to be called an adulterated. We already have like
• 30:06
  half a bit written. We just got to record it. Beautiful. Wow,
• 30:11
  you guys are just chugging away over there, then, thank you.
• 30:14
  Yeah, Las Vegas is is doing you well? Yeah, dude, I
• 30:18
  love I love Vegas. Yeah, I love it here. Yeah, a
• 30:22
  lot of your designs are are Vegas related, which I appreciate too. I
• 30:26
  love like I love the motif and like the mystique of Las Vegas, even
• 30:30
  though, like you, I absolutely love Las Vegas personally, but like I
• 30:33
  love like the imagery that's behind it. I love the Vegas aesthetic. There's
• 30:37
  a lot of parts about living in Vegas that kind of suck, but the
• 30:41
  aesthetic is cool and I feel like it plays a lot into who I am
• 30:45
  as a person. And I was like an artist for sure. Hell yeah,
• 30:48
  I love that. Plus you might just run into uh whatever his face
• 30:52
  is from The Killers, is it Flowers Flowers? Or you could run into
• 30:57
  Chunneley too, right, or Chumley. There's a lot of people on here,
• 31:00
  a lot of celebrities. It's strange that Gordon Ramsey, who knows Gordon
• 31:06
  Ramsey is in Vegas. He's got He's got a couple of different setups out
• 31:11
  there. Yeah, I think he lives out here. I think. So
• 31:14
  he's strange, doesn't He has like a million restaurants here. Yeah, he
• 31:17
  probably has a million houses too. Fuck me anything else you'd like to plug?
• 31:23
  Yeah, So this right after the Military Gun Tour, we're all collectively,
• 31:30
  anyone who knows me knows I love yo yo ing. That's like just
• 31:33
  a thing I love, like dead ass, Like I'm not even joking.
• 31:36
  Every year on my birthday and like get me a yo yo and I get
• 31:37
  like ten yo yos for my birthday. The band collectively, we're all doing
• 31:42
  a yoyo competition and are off day in San Cruiz as part of the Military
• 31:47
  Gun Tour. Oh so like the other bands are also participating or just Roman
• 31:52
  Candles, Roman Candle, just okaye each other? Yes, well against each
• 31:59
  other and then also like against other people. It's like it's like a regional
• 32:01
  thing. So how is it going to be judged? Is it like do
• 32:06
  you have judges set up for this or is it just an actual thing.
• 32:08
  It's not like a convention center and there's like judges and there's like a whole
• 32:12
  board of people. Yeah. So is it just like the most like crazy
• 32:15
  amount of tricks you can do? I don't know anything about the yellowing world.
• 32:20
  Yeah, yeah, I know. There's like there's like some things like
• 32:22
  where you can like like cool make cool designs, like with your hands,
• 32:24
  and then there's also like movement things right like where you're like making it like
• 32:30
  walk the dog or whatever. It's kind of like it's like a three tier
• 32:34
  kind of thing, like you do you know, you see how long you
• 32:37
  can hold it out for, and then the tricks and then just the little
• 32:42
  like can things. I forgot what the word for that is, but it's
• 32:45
  it's a whole thing, and then you're right in on a scale of one
• 32:46
  to ten, similar to like the like Olympics. Yeah, it's like it's
• 32:50
  like figure skating. There's like there's there's couples and then there's interpretive and then
• 32:55
  there's sometimes there's people that get stabbed, right, yeah, exactly. Yeah,
• 33:00
  that would be cool. I'm really excited. Do you that would be
• 33:04
  cool if someone got stabbed at the imagine like the ESPN thirty for thirty Yo
• 33:08
  Yo Scabbing documentary. It's just me. It's just me, the main character.
• 33:16
  Do you have one of the light up yoyo's? I have like every
• 33:20
  yo yo you can think of. I have like yoyo Cris and for Christmas
• 33:23
  last year got me like a fancy yoyo glove with like this nice like metal
• 33:29
  yo yo. And then I got a light up one for Chris or for
• 33:34
  my birthday back in March. Who was it? My friend Dustin? And
• 33:37
  then recently my girlfriend just bought me one, just this cool, little like
• 33:42
  glow in the dark one. But I have love it. I hope this
• 33:45
  is something you started a year ago and not when you were nine. Oh
• 33:50
  yeah, no, it's I feel like I had a yoyo phase when I
• 33:52
  was like ten, and then I like forgot about it, and then recently,
• 33:55
  I think for the past like two years, it's been something I'm like,
• 33:59
  it's just just my thing, my go to is giving a yo yo.
• 34:01
  Are you into hacky sacking as well? No, I want to be,
• 34:06
  but I'm not good at it. I bet those worlds are like and
• 34:08
  just hate each other, you know, like it's like the mods and rockers.
• 34:15
  Yeah, the crips and bloods. I don't know if it's that deep,
• 34:22
  but yeah, you know, like, hey, there could be a
• 34:27
  thirty for thirty. You know, maybe maybe the hacky sacker decided to shank
• 34:30
  the Yeah, I think the other way, like yoyo's yo yos. Yeah,
• 34:37
  toughs. What's the what's the name of like the it's like a garroat
• 34:42
  or garro or whatever that like they used to, like like the mafia used
• 34:46
  to like cut people's heads off with. Oh, I know what you're talking
• 34:50
  about. I don't know the name of it though. I think it's called
• 34:52
  a garrow or garrote or something like that. I'm not sure if it's a
• 34:55
  French word or not. Yeah, you could do that with s. Yeah,
• 35:00
  that would work. That's a badass. Well, Killer Piper, you've
• 35:05
  been great. Uh. We love Roman Candle. Uh. We want you
• 35:08
  all to be huge in this world. Uh, everyone to everyone to listen
• 35:14
  to you. Thank you, Thank you, so much. I appreciate it,
• 35:17
  thank you very much. From today, we've got Dane from Ugly Pretty
• 36:23
  with us, and you may have noticed we already did like a quick little
• 36:27
  interview with Roman Candle unbelievable band, please check them out, but we also
• 36:30
  are doing this little double episode with Ugly Pretty and Ugly Pretty, I mean
• 36:36
  Dane, like, you guys are so freaking good. I remember what was
• 36:39
  it like a month or so ago, Culin. We were hanging out and
• 36:43
  Colin lives in a different city than me Dane, so we were He came
• 36:46
  up and was hanging out with me and we were jamming out in the car
• 36:50
  and he was like, dude, there's this band that just popped up on
• 36:52
  my music feed the other day and you just you have to listen to him.
• 36:57
  So we turn it up and we were like, I was like,
• 37:00
  holy shit, this is unbelievable. How is this not like the biggest thing
• 37:04
  in the world right now in alternative music? So anyway, Ugly Partty,
• 37:08
  you guys are just absolute killing it. I know you guys are like a
• 37:12
  new band, but unbelievable. Nonetheless, and he really do whatever little we
• 37:16
  can to get as many listeners for you guys as possible. I mean that
• 37:20
  that's the goal, because you guys are so freaking sick, dude, that
• 37:22
  means a lot for real. Yeah, honestly, like coming up on the
• 37:28
  feed, I'm interested to see how random or not that was, because if
• 37:30
  you're just scrolling and oh is this, yeah, Colin, how did that
• 37:32
  happen? So I am the YouTube rabbit hole. God, I think I
• 37:37
  do this to Mason all the time, and I'll send him like this really
• 37:40
  killer band that's got like two three reviews on YouTube, right, yeah,
• 37:46
  well at one point, so this actually, the first time I discovered you
• 37:50
  was probably like April May, somewhere around there. Yeah, and I listened
• 37:59
  to you know, it's before that. It was winter last year. Still
• 38:01
  I listened to you guys obsessively. Oh wow that winter where I'm from,
• 38:07
  because I remember being in the garage freezing my ass off, and you need
• 38:10
  something to yell at you during that time, for sure. Yeah, that's
• 38:13
  right, and it I was just obsessed with that. I like, the
• 38:16
  lyrics are stuck in my head, the rhythms are stuck in my head,
• 38:20
  the riffs are stuck in my head, and it's like ten minutes of music
• 38:25
  is really I've listened to it so many times. I'm almost at this point.
• 38:30
  You know, we've been a band for like just a year now,
• 38:34
  like just a little over here, a couple of weeks, and yeah,
• 38:37
  it's you know, I'm surprised people are getting to that point where they're like,
• 38:39
  dang, it's so short, or like, you know, wanting new
• 38:43
  music. We put out one single since the EP, but yeah, man,
• 38:45
  we just we knew when we were writing that it was gonna be like
• 38:49
  I just I love the tidbits of the music. I love that it keeps
• 38:52
  me wanting more. Even there's there's parts I would have doubled. There's parts
• 38:55
  I would have you know, had more maybe, but I like that like
• 39:00
  little finite experience that keeps you wanting more. Plus like we can't deny we're
• 39:04
  in the middle of this uh time in the world where like the attention span
• 39:07
  be low, little, very small, right, So like anything I can
• 39:12
  do to keep it wanting, keep people wanting more, maybe listening more,
• 39:16
  but like you know, still getting out what I need to say. That's
• 39:20
  also very important. But I'm glad it's like you know, a small package,
• 39:22
  you know. Yeah, and it's what uh what. What Mason immediately
• 39:29
  said when I showed him was holy shit, this guy can write a song.
• 39:34
  Like every single song on that record or an EP. I should say,
• 39:38
  is it's it's so tightly tuned, like there's definitely a lot of thought
• 39:45
  put into it. I don't know how many other songs you have written or
• 39:49
  that you have like you ready to go at some point here, but it's
• 39:52
  clear that this is this is from a pretty deep place. This is this
• 39:55
  is not just like like, hey, here's a song. It's like this,
• 40:00
  this is this is this is like a part of me that I'm putting
• 40:02
  out here, and you mix it in really well with some melodies that I've
• 40:09
  never quite heard in the heavy music scene. So I'm just I'm just curious
• 40:15
  what what brought you to to writing this EP? First of all, what
• 40:20
  what created the band? What? Uh? What made you want to start
• 40:23
  this project? Oh man, I mean you'll have to cut me off if
• 40:29
  I get a little windy on the story, because part of it is is
• 40:32
  testimony. Right. Yeah, So first of all, thank you Mason,
• 40:38
  right, thank you so much for that kind comment. And yeah, you
• 40:40
  guys are just so so kind. I appreciate all the love and particular comments
• 40:45
  and stuff about how you guys feel. I started this in the middle of
• 40:50
  believe it or not. I was doing like a kind of like a solo
• 40:52
  pop project. I've always written music. I started writing when I was well.
• 40:57
  When I picked up guitar I was twelve, I was like, I
• 41:00
  got a guitar for Christmas. My daddy plays pano he's always been in bands.
• 41:04
  Got a guitar. I was like, I'm gonna write a song right
• 41:06
  now, and wrote a song on one string. It was probably terrible.
• 41:09
  Called my grandma. She's like, this is great, and I got all
• 41:12
  the encouragement I needed. The song was called my Grandma. No no,
• 41:15
  I well, you know what, I actually don't remember, but it very
• 41:20
  well could have had to do with her, because I that's all, but
• 41:22
  that's a cool song name if it was like, that's actually awesome, I
• 41:27
  called my grandma. There you go. Yeah. So anyways, Yeah,
• 41:30
  my family's always been incredibly encouraging. I've just dove into the world of music
• 41:35
  since I was yeah, eleven or twelve years old, and uh just kind
• 41:39
  of always took it seriously. School was was rough for me. I never
• 41:44
  enjoyed school. I don't really know anyone who does. But at the same
• 41:46
  time, I guess early on in my life I had this calling that I
• 41:50
  thought music was just not not something I wanted to do to. I don't
• 41:54
  know, get famous, get like get get particulards or something like that.
• 42:00
  But I just knew that I couldn't exist without it, you know. I
• 42:02
  thought it was always that thing that healed me, and there was something else
• 42:07
  to it that in my younger self, I couldn't explain just a feeling,
• 42:10
  right, something that brought peace and solace. But I know everyone feels that
• 42:15
  when they love music so much. So yeah, cut too, you know.
• 42:20
  I was like twelve, picked up guitar, started writing songs immediately.
• 42:22
  They were all probably all terrible. A few years later, sixteen, I
• 42:29
  kind of I took a thing called independent study, which is basically just you
• 42:32
  get your high school classes and credit based format. You know, you can
• 42:36
  kind of go at your own pace. So I did that, and I
• 42:38
  tested out early and started touring and stuff. When I was sixteen, just
• 42:44
  started with like an acoustic project that was just me and a friend. I
• 42:47
  was always just doing different music, writing music, you know, trying to
• 42:52
  bring in friends, wishful thinking in certain circumstances. We all grow up wanting
• 42:58
  to be in bands with our best friends and stuff, right, but didn't
• 43:00
  always pan out for me or for you know, different people and stuff like
• 43:04
  that. I tried different projects. I always had one really really good friend
• 43:07
  who was just always in my life and a great musical just head to kind
• 43:15
  of bounce ideas off of, and just a close friend. And he wound
• 43:17
  up being the person who started Ugly Pretty with me. And again we started
• 43:22
  it when I was in the middle of making pop music. He was recording
• 43:27
  me, and we were just trying to make music that we loved as always,
• 43:30
  but this was kind of the that was the type of music I wanted
• 43:34
  to make, something soft, something heartfelt, but just you know, trying
• 43:38
  different types of things, trying to really land on what feels like the rest
• 43:43
  of my life, what feels like something I can what's the message I'm putting
• 43:46
  out? How do I do it best? Did really well for a couple
• 43:50
  of years, and it started. I got like a song with like three
• 43:53
  million plays during the pandemic right when it started, and things were going well,
• 43:57
  and that was a thing started to pay for my life. And it
• 44:01
  was interesting because once I got these certain accolades or successes in that, my
• 44:08
  personal life wasn't going very well. Like I was, you know, depressed
• 44:13
  and abusing alcohol and just not looking for something and not finding it. I
• 44:20
  just I was starting to hate music, even which is very strange for me
• 44:23
  because it's it's everything to me, and it's everything. I am so to
• 44:28
  hate writing, to hate everything I heard out there in general. I was
• 44:32
  just starting to be kind of a miserable person. And I got to this
• 44:37
  point where I was like, you know, really trying to understand what the
• 44:44
  heck was going on around me. Obviously, this was twenty twenty, twenty
• 44:45
  twenty one, a lot of wild stuff in the world. A lot of
• 44:49
  people were self reflecting. You know, lockdowns will do that to you.
• 44:54
  I got a lot of time to reflect on who I was, and I
• 44:58
  decided to just put down a sex as well project, and you know,
• 45:01
  long story short, I know I've been rambling, but long story short,
• 45:05
  do something for Christ because during this time, I've rediscovered my faith. I
• 45:10
  rediscovered Jesus and that was a basis I had, thank God when I was
• 45:15
  a little kid, but something I completely ran away from for my entire life.
• 45:20
  Up till that point when I decided to start Ugly Pretty, and I
• 45:23
  knew it was something that this is going to be the thing I do for
• 45:29
  the rest of my life, and I'm going to go as hard as I
• 45:30
  can lyrically, vocally and with the truth that I know is true. And
• 45:37
  if I get hated for it, cool, if people love it cool.
• 45:38
  I had no idea how people would react. I just threw it out there,
• 45:43
  and you know, a year later we have this amazing supportive group.
• 45:46
  But Ugly Pretty started because I was miserable and I no longer wanted to even
• 45:52
  pretend that I was going to write something about it, or I wasn't gonna
• 46:00
  pretend any longer that I was writing anything of true substance, even though maybe
• 46:04
  at times I thought I was. I just didn't want to waste my own
• 46:07
  time, and I wanted to give it to the Lord. I just wanted
• 46:09
  to give the people something that's different, because I see a lot of people
• 46:16
  like me, man, that are like come from this like hardcore tattooed scene,
• 46:21
  and like, you know, we all look a certain way, but
• 46:22
  everyone is looking for something. And I found Jesus, and I know that
• 46:27
  people are looking for that, and I can be a bridge to that through
• 46:30
  the music. So just a big wall I hit and I decided to just
• 46:35
  get to writing, and we just started writing, me and my friend Bob
• 46:37
  and he's he was originally the other kind of half. He produces us and
• 46:42
  stuff like that. And yeah, we wrote our first song in like fifteen
• 46:45
  minutes and the rest was history. It does make sense, though, that
• 46:51
  you have this pop background, because you can tell and just in the arrangement,
• 46:55
  like you like the reason why I gave you that kind of uh or
• 46:59
  what. What I noticed when I first heard the first song from you guys
• 47:01
  is like, wow, this is just really well arranged. And obviously pop
• 47:05
  music is known for having these very specific arrangements that keeps a listener really,
• 47:09
  you know, cued in and and you've got like these catchy hooks. But
• 47:13
  what I love about Ugly Pretty is obviously there's like this catchiness to it that
• 47:15
  you get from pop music, and it's arranged in that way. But also
• 47:20
  there's obviously the distortion, there's the screaming, there's the heavy aspects of it
• 47:23
  that I love as well, And so it's just really cool when you get
• 47:27
  these people that have this background in pop music, so they know how to
• 47:30
  make something sound catchy and also know how to arrange it well. But then
• 47:32
  also add in all of this like distorted heavy elements that I love as well.
• 47:37
  So that's what I noticed, and that's part of the reason why I
• 47:40
  fell in love with it right away. Thanks so much, man. Yeah,
• 47:44
  part of that rambly story I had about my past with music, I
• 47:47
  was always trying to find that balance of sound because I love so much music.
• 47:52
  I love heavy music. I grew up in the hardcore scene, and
• 47:55
  I love pop music and kind of everything in between. So just authenticity is
• 48:00
  what I wanted, and to blend, to blend the sounds without like particularly
• 48:06
  like pulling or copy pasting from someone else. You know, influences are huge,
• 48:09
  But at the same time, I just wanted to do something that was
• 48:13
  very just straight from the heart. So we kind of got down to it,
• 48:17
  just wrote, like I said, our first song we wrote in fifteen
• 48:21
  minutes and we were like, Okay, I think we got something. And
• 48:23
  then the rest of it we took more time and I opened myself up a
• 48:28
  lot more but sold out. That was the first song we did, so
• 48:30
  that came out real quick. You know, we were really happy about it.
• 48:35
  It started the rest of our year. Yeah. Do you think the
• 48:39
  people get pissed off when you say, yeah, I wrote a song fifteen
• 48:42
  minutes. It's also one of our best songs. A big deal. I
• 48:45
  don't say it as like a flex I definitely. I'm sure there are people
• 48:49
  that was like, oh, cool, dude, you wrote down fifteen minutes.
• 48:51
  Nice we did. I don't know it was. I will attribute honestly
• 48:57
  anything I do that that anyone thinks is good, and I'm going to give
• 49:00
  the glory to God. There's a lot of things that happen in my musical
• 49:04
  process that I'm like, this is a little beyond me. Like the fact
• 49:07
  that a song can be written in fifteen minutes. It's like that wasn't there
• 49:10
  before. It's part of why I love creating. It's it's amazing what you
• 49:15
  can pull out yourself. You know. Yeah, very true, especially when
• 49:17
  you're in that inspirational mode where it just it just flows, you know.
• 49:22
  Yes, sir, there is something else interesting about you guys too, and
• 49:27
  that's that you you've taken on kind of this semi anonymous mystique. I would
• 49:34
  say, I don't know if that's intentional or not. But like your your
• 49:37
  face is not plastered really anywhere on your social media's or anything like that,
• 49:43
  which I could appreciate. I think a lot of great bands, bands that
• 49:46
  that that put the music first and the art first, the art form first.
• 49:51
  They don't put themselves front and the center, so I can appreciate it.
• 49:54
  But that about that, I don't know if that was intentional. When
• 49:58
  you might speak in to that, it's semi intentional. I try not to
• 50:01
  put too much thought into that because I think that's certainly something that could be
• 50:06
  overthought, at least on my end. You know, how much do I
• 50:09
  want to show my face things like that? Yeah, I tend not to
• 50:15
  because I do, like you said, I prefer to let the music speak
• 50:19
  for itself and the art lead. And I think that's super important to me,
• 50:22
  at least for this project and for everything I'll really be doing moving forward
• 50:28
  having to do with that otherwise. Yeah, I just I don't know.
• 50:32
  That was just something that was important to me to just kind of find a
• 50:36
  balance between, like anything else, let the music lead first. Otherwise.
• 50:39
  It's just kind of a thing I rarely think about. I think as we
• 50:45
  grow, i'll continue to you know, we'll continue to show our faces and
• 50:47
  things like that a little bit. But I enjoy making the artwork so much
• 50:52
  that it's hard not to let it lead first. I love that. That's
• 50:55
  cool. Speaking of kind of making the artwork, obviously, I know you're
• 51:00
  making new music. Yeah, what's kind of in the the What what can
• 51:04
  we expect in the life of Ugly Pretty here in the future. Obviously it
• 51:08
  sounds like there's new music, but maybe there's shows, all those sorts of
• 51:12
  things. What can we expect? Absolutely? Yeah, coming to the end
• 51:16
  of this first year here, we're really looking forward to the new year just
• 51:20
  to do a lot of traveling. I know we have a lot of at
• 51:22
  this point, we've kind of gathered that that vocal kind of fan base that's
• 51:28
  like come here, come there, and you know, we kind of have
• 51:30
  a good idea where we'll be traveling to in the new year, So we
• 51:32
  have a lot of plans for that. Right Where are you? Where are
• 51:37
  you based out of right now? Sorry, we're in southern California. I'm
• 51:39
  in Ventura County, which is like an hour north of LA You're familiar,
• 51:45
  gotcha? Awesome? And then you know, it's pretty much me right now,
• 51:51
  and then we have our drummer Nick he lives you know in La we're
• 51:54
  all pretty much La La adjacent. And then what was the other part?
• 51:58
  Sorry I blamed where it was like yeah, like yeah, no music,
• 52:01
  new shows that kind of yeah, what what do you have coming up?
• 52:05
  Yeah? So new year, a lot of travel. I think we're going
• 52:07
  to be doing a lot of that. Just writing kind of comes first and
• 52:09
  foremost. Since it's been a minute, I want to kind of take this
• 52:14
  the end of the year and you know, write, write as many songs
• 52:16
  as we can. No real plan of where it'll like, how it'll wind
• 52:22
  up, or what it'll look like. Yet I think every time we write
• 52:25
  a song that we enjoy, it kind of builds its own story as we
• 52:30
  go along, like for what it'll eventually wind up being. So we'll see.
• 52:34
  I don't I don't put a lot of a lot of stock into that
• 52:36
  other than I know that I enjoy doing it and we're gonna get put our
• 52:39
  all into that that time. So probably recording in some new spots, just
• 52:45
  releasing a lot of new designs, a lot of more like physical pieces of
• 52:50
  merch like vinyls, things like that. Just trying to get out there and
• 52:53
  travel more. Though ultimately I think because we only played uh really really one
• 53:00
  show this year. We only played one, and I know we would have
• 53:02
  played more due to some scheduling conflicts and stuff. But we really want to
• 53:07
  get out there and travel. It's just important to us to go play for
• 53:09
  people and spread the word. You know. Yeah, I really hope that
• 53:14
  you guys can get on on a bill with a with a band you guys
• 53:16
  dig, because I think that give some exposure. Was is really going to
• 53:20
  help you guys a lot, because I agree your music is so accessible,
• 53:24
  but it is so like it's so creative and like the directions that you go.
• 53:30
  I don't think there's a lot of music out there that's like it.
• 53:34
  I think that it's something that that's that's people are really going to love immediately
• 53:39
  when they hear it. So I sure hope. So it seems like we
• 53:43
  got a lot of love. Man. The people that are vocal and supportive
• 53:46
  are very much so, and it's a it's a huge blessing. There seems
• 53:50
  to be a deep connection going down. So it's all I could pray for,
• 53:52
  you know. That's for about it. That's great. You're ready for
• 53:59
  top five. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm ready for top five. Thank
• 54:02
  you again for the three warning. Let's do it. Top five most influential
• 54:09
  albums of Dane's life. Let's hear it all right, in no particular order,
• 54:15
  because I'm not gonna do that. Yeah, most influential albums. They're
• 54:21
  only chasing safety by under Oath of course. You know, when I first
• 54:24
  heard the first Ugly Partty song, I was like, there's got to be
• 54:28
  at least some level of listening to under Oath that this guy bless it just
• 54:34
  you know they're there. Just felt like a vibe there, Yeah, totally
• 54:38
  yeah, like face stuff aside. I think like the just they were one
• 54:42
  of the first bands with screaming I ever heard. Period. I was a
• 54:45
  little kid, and I have an older sister, like four and a half
• 54:50
  years older than me, and she's the only sibling I got. But she
• 54:52
  had her phase, man, And it wasn't a phase for me, bro,
• 54:54
  but it was for her for her. And I walked by your room,
• 54:59
  man, she was listening to bands like Finch and under Oath and stuff,
• 55:01
  and I was like, wait is this And I stole her iPod and
• 55:06
  my life changed forever. So yeah, that was easily one of them.
• 55:09
  It still is easily one of the most influential records to our music and just
• 55:15
  to me in general. Me and Bob who started the project and produced us
• 55:20
  originally. He and I just used to ride around in my truck and just
• 55:23
  blast that thing on CD all the time, Like on my old truck with
• 55:27
  you have a CD, I would blast that. We're just like, man,
• 55:30
  I missed happy music. This is when we were still doing pop stuff.
• 55:31
  I'm like, I just I missed yelling. I missed like it's noise.
• 55:37
  They've always been huge for me. So that's that's a big one.
• 55:40
  Lot a lot to love about them. Other influential albums, I would say,
• 55:47
  ooh that for it's it's kind of it's an I guess newer. I
• 55:52
  mean, there's gonna be a lot of stuff that's kind of more modern to
• 55:54
  be honest. That's fine. Yeah, So that first Story So Far record
• 56:01
  is huge for me and the band. We just love we love that band.
• 56:06
  Man. The Story so Far one of my favorite bands, and that
• 56:07
  first record was just my introduction to them. I think under Soil and Dirt
• 56:12
  that's the name of the record. Sorry, people, Don't Hate Me.
• 56:15
  A lot of good stuff by them. Yeah, that was a huge record
• 56:17
  for me just in terms of like the time in my life when it came
• 56:22
  out it was like summer. I think it was like twenty eleven, twenty
• 56:24
  twelve. It was just like Warped Tour was still kicking, Like it was
• 56:29
  just fun and like kind of a resurgence of like pop punk that I thought
• 56:34
  died for a while. But they also have a lot of heavy elements in
• 56:37
  my opinion, just with the guitar work and a lot of that start stop
• 56:42
  stuff. That synchronization that I love is just ear candy for me. So
• 56:46
  that's always been huge. Wow, I have to say it. I'm gonna
• 56:52
  I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna shy away from this one. But uh,
• 56:55
  three cheers for Sweet Revenge, I chim. I have to say it,
• 57:00
  guys, I gotta say it. Yeah, seventh grade me would be
• 57:05
  super upset if I didn't say that. This is one of my favorite well
• 57:12
  always be such a such a time in my life, and I think still
• 57:15
  in its ways has little bits of influence just because it was when again I
• 57:22
  discovered it at a young age, I was just like, who are these
• 57:24
  guys in makeup like you know, just like the weird songs like the kind
• 57:30
  of just true like sadness of it, and it was loud and it had
• 57:34
  a lot of feedback and you know that was that was cool. I really
• 57:38
  liked that And then kind of moving more into like my most hardcore like influence
• 57:45
  where I started to fall in love with hardcore. Have Heart for Sure is
• 57:49
  one of my most favorite bands. For sure. To Scream at the Sun
• 57:51
  that's you know, just super hard not to love to me, that's true
• 57:57
  hardcore. Like, you know, I think a lot of people have opinions
• 58:00
  and that hardcore is a very like broad thing. But when people ask like
• 58:04
  what is ugly pretty sound like, I'm just like, I don't know,
• 58:07
  I don't like genres. Just I call it hardcore, you know, because
• 58:08
  it has those elements. But you know maybe people would think differently. But
• 58:14
  yeah, like that record and half Part in general like very very just straightforward,
• 58:19
  just awesome. Hardcore makes you just just a guy in a mic,
• 58:22
  you know, angst in it out and you know, loud and feedback and
• 58:27
  just a lot of elements I've always loved. So it's like, got this
• 58:29
  like straightforward just want to fucking mosh to it kind of stuff. I love
• 58:34
  it. You're you must be a fan of Fiddlehead as well. Absolutely,
• 58:37
  I just missed them. They came through. I live in Cameraria, which
• 58:42
  is next to OHI. It's this small, little like kind of in the
• 58:45
  mountains town. But they just came through there. I was surprised to hear
• 58:49
  it. I saw the flyer and it was like a day before the show.
• 58:51
  I couldn't make it, but yeah, I was super bummed. So
• 58:53
  I haven't gotten to see them yet. I've seen half part obviously, but
• 58:57
  like, oh yeah, that'd be great. I'd love to see them.
• 59:00
  Am I had three or four? I think that was four, right,
• 59:04
  four? Okay? Four? Okay? So four? Uh so for five
• 59:08
  Floyal Green title Fight? Yeah. Yeah. Just if there was one band
• 59:15
  that I would legitimately care if they came back, it's title Fight. They
• 59:19
  should come back. I missed them every single day, huge time in my
• 59:23
  life too, just around when that record came out. There's a lot of
• 59:25
  nostalgia in my most influential records. They're supposed to be yeah, and they
• 59:31
  all really are. You know. I can pick out times in my life
• 59:36
  where I was when both the albums came out, or when I'd go see
• 59:38
  these bands during that time, and when Floya Green came out. Man,
• 59:42
  I was living on the East Coast for a little while and that was like
• 59:45
  my one little stint there. And they I think that they're from Doylestown,
• 59:49
  Pennsylvania, right, So, like I, you know, saw a bunch
• 59:52
  of shows with them, and like Balance a Composure, who is another favorite
• 59:54
  in my time. Just just those those those bands like in that record change
• 1:00:00
  my life for sure, just because it was this like sound that at first
• 1:00:04
  I felt like I almost didn't like, at least with Title Fight No Offense.
• 1:00:07
  Boy, I love you guys, but there was like it was an
• 1:00:08
  acquired taste for some reason at first, and then I just fell in love
• 1:00:12
  to the answer degree bands like that, bands like Balance that have that the
• 1:00:20
  catching is sure, but just it hits you like a train. It just
• 1:00:22
  hits you like a train. I just I don't even know what to call
• 1:00:25
  it otherwise, No, you're right, you're right, that big sound.
• 1:00:29
  Yeah. One of my favorite kinds of bands are the bands that got their
• 1:00:35
  start in the hardcore world, like Balance and Composure and Title Fight and Saves
• 1:00:38
  the day as one of those kind of bands. There's a number of them,
• 1:00:40
  but they all started out in the hardcore world and then their sound evolved
• 1:00:45
  to like, you know, sounding more like pop punk or or indie or
• 1:00:49
  alternative or whatever, where their sound doesn't sound like classic hardcore. But because
• 1:00:53
  they came out of that hardcore world, they could be playing like the most
• 1:00:55
  like emouh sad indie boy song or whatever, and there's kids still like kids
• 1:01:04
  still stay driving and washing to it, and I'm like that is that is
• 1:01:07
  so cool to still see are these bands that like want to evolve in their
• 1:01:10
  sound, but because they still have that hardcore pedigree, they're able to still
• 1:01:16
  have those kind of like hardcore feeling shows, which is so yes, yes,
• 1:01:21
  that's right, and that's what we try and emulate or want to emulate
• 1:01:23
  when we play. Is always just that classic hardcore thing. Like you just
• 1:01:29
  said, you described it better than I ever could. It's just part of
• 1:01:30
  the DNA of it and probably the most appealing part to me for sure.
• 1:01:35
  There's a sense of community and thrash it around with each other and stuff like
• 1:01:38
  that, even if the songs are a little softer sometimes or whatever. First
• 1:01:42
  of all, I think every hardcore band, you know, if they're super
• 1:01:45
  heavy, you got to have at least one soft song or at least like
• 1:01:49
  sections of your song, right yeah. Otherwise it's just it's it's too uh,
• 1:01:53
  it's too breakneck the entire time. Yeah, I mean it could you
• 1:01:57
  know. I think there's a time and a place for that too. But
• 1:02:00
  yeah, I love a good mixture, man. And but at the end
• 1:02:02
  of the day, the DNA that that lives with their hardcore is is important.
• 1:02:07
  And I think I've always felt it's it's importance and it's this like I
• 1:02:12
  get. I get a very specific feeling when I think about it. It's
• 1:02:15
  it's it's powerful, and it's important and it's a it's a vessel to be
• 1:02:19
  used for sure. Hell yeah, hell yeah, yeah, I love that
• 1:02:22
  all right, what would you like to plug? Well? Today of recording,
• 1:02:29
  what's today? What is the date? We got? Today is the
• 1:02:31
  twelfth, thank you Friday, the fifteenth. As of recording, This of
• 1:02:37
  the Pretty is going to have a new web store. I finally put one
• 1:02:40
  together with old one. I decided to to mix it up and make a
• 1:02:45
  new one. I've been making a lot of different websites and tough lately,
• 1:02:47
  so I made anyone for us. We got new merch come in. In
• 1:02:52
  terms of vinyls, people have been dying to get the vinyls out. We've
• 1:02:55
  been telling me all year, and I've been waiting and waiting for the moment.
• 1:02:59
  So those are finally getting done. We got the EP coming out on
• 1:03:01
  finyl, and just a bunch of new stuff that's going to be on the
• 1:03:06
  web store. So old and new stuff kill it awesome. Yeah, you
• 1:03:10
  guys have been You guys have like constantly sold out of stuff very very quickly.
• 1:03:15
  Yes, sir, we do very limited runs, so I'll give it
• 1:03:19
  that. It's not like yeah, but like a band that's as new as
• 1:03:22
  you guys does not sell out a shit. You guys are selling out of
• 1:03:25
  stuff like immediately, so appreciate that. Yeah. I like the quality.
• 1:03:31
  I want to give good quality out there so people really like it. Yeah.
• 1:03:35
  Well I can tell that you like a good quality because you're not using
• 1:03:38
  like these like crappy, like paper thin shirts. You're using yeah, like
• 1:03:43
  guildings or whatever, giant heavyweight shirts that are that are coming back finally,
• 1:03:49
  I've they are. I'm a larger dude, right, I'm a big guy.
• 1:03:52
  I hated like the long like ten, twelve, fifteen years we've had
• 1:03:58
  of like these paper thin shirts that bands would put great designs on, but
• 1:04:02
  they don't. They don't make it through five years because they fall apart in
• 1:04:05
  the wash. Whatever. And that's my favorite thing, right, some you
• 1:04:08
  can wear forever and just as it give me that heavyweight shirt again, yes,
• 1:04:13
  sir, And you're doing more expensive to make, but worth it,
• 1:04:15
  worth it. It's worth you wear it forever, so I'll pay a good
• 1:04:23
  shirt. That's right, sir, You've got it. You're on it absolutely,
• 1:04:28
  Uh Dean, what else would you like to plug? Well, you
• 1:04:32
  know, it's interesting. I don't really tell people this kind of thing much,
• 1:04:38
  but I used to do a lot of voice acting before I got into
• 1:04:44
  doing you know, music and things like that. I wanted to test my
• 1:04:46
  voice out on different things and people have always told me that I have like,
• 1:04:50
  you know, you should do it. You have a voice for cartoons.
• 1:04:53
  You got to do cartoons. Yeah, So it's nothing. I don't
• 1:04:57
  know if it's anything you would have heard of, but it's just like it
• 1:05:00
  used to be huge back in the day of YouTube first coming out. But
• 1:05:05
  it's called Happy Tree Friends. They ever heard of that? Absolutely? Are
• 1:05:10
  you trying to say you were happy tree friends? I was. I was
• 1:05:13
  a little one of those little little uh squirrels or different you know, rabbits
• 1:05:16
  or things that they would have on there. They just kind of they would
• 1:05:18
  have you, you know, just make a bunch of noises, and you
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  know, they decide which one you were. I don't even know sometimes which
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  one i'd particularly be. I know one time I was definitely one of them
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  squirrels. Other than that, they would just plug me in, right,
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  So, yeah, you just go in, You get the mic, you
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  get a little you know, draw out of how it's gonna go and how
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  the cartoon's supposed to look, where you're supposed to be queued in, They
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  queue you in, they record, and you just make a bunch of weird
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  noises and hope for the best wife. That was very interesting. Yeah,
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  have you had any other experience doing cartoons or or any of the kind of
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  voiceover worker? I should say, well, other than like the occasional people
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  will hit me up to do like like a kind of like a jingle for
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  like a commercial. You ever seen those types of commercials? Colin thinks of
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  jingles all the time. I do these all the time. I love it.
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  Do you how many jingles you got in the archives? Man, Oh,
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  I've got I've got a few like you. Ever, you got to
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  send it my way because I could definitely get you hooked up. He loves
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  like if we're traveling. If we're traveling, he'll like, you know,
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  we'll go buy a billboard and you know, without knowing anything about the business
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  or whatever, we just see the billboard. He'll just like make up a
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  jingle right then, right then and there. People need you, People need
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  minds like you. I I just I just I just enjoy it, especially
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  like like the you know, a classic like mid nineties kind of like sound
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  I kind of put something together like that. Like in our home, every
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  hometown has one of these. Right in our hometown, there's something called dutch
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  Boy car wash, and they've got one of the greatest. It's only in
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  our hometowns. It is the most catchy, awesome Mason. Can you find
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  it on YouTube? Is it like dutch Boy car wash? We'll do it
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  today? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you got it clear that all it
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  is. Do it today? Do it the dutch Boy car wash way.
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  Yeah, it's great. Yes, it's awesome and it's got like this like
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  cool like little background music. Do you find it? I'm trying to.
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  I don't know. I don't know if you came, because I hope so.
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  I wish I did. But because of that jingle, I make jingles
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  in my head all the time as I'm like looking at billboards or like business
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  names all along the road or whatever. You know, it's fun to dive
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  into that world because it sounds like people are missing out. I can't.
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  I am not able to find. There is one Dutch Car or Dutch Boy
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  car wash video, but it's literally a car going through a Dutch Boy car
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  solid adverse. You need to have the jingle behind it, otherwise it must
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  be that low key. Man, it is low key. It's a great
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  car wash. Though. Well, if I remember in your area, hopefully
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  my car is dirty. Remember remember County Fairs Colin County Fairs. Little jingle
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  there's was like high on service, low on price, County Star. Yeah,
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  for sure, it's just quick and to the point. Man, it
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  sticks with you. Okay, But what's what is the goat of jingles?
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  We all know got jingles. There is one and there is for sure a
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  goat. Wow, it's going to be a deep cut because it's gonna be
• 1:08:43
  as you're like, oh yeah, duh, well okay, well you tell
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  me auto parts. Oh yeah, al rallies out pats. Oh yeah,
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  no, I hear that a lot. Actually the goat because sometimes it's an
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  old school radio jingle that they use on television and on the radio. I
• 1:09:09
  do love the the home Depot guitar. I know it's not really a jingle,
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  but the guitar that is like so icon you just know it. Yeah,
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  yeah, it's it's perfect. I like load screens, video game load
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  screens. Sometimes those are the singles Mario KRD load screens that dude shred and
• 1:09:26
  it's that's all you need. Even just like the PlayStation one where it's like,
• 1:09:30
  yeah, I do like you know how to make the sound like that?
• 1:09:33
  Yeah, you're just like I know what that is. I've got a
• 1:09:38
  quick challenge before before we pop off. You're you're a you are a a
• 1:09:44
  professional voiceover artist. Mason and I are not. But I think we should
• 1:09:48
  all pitch one character that we would put on the screen somehow. Okay,
• 1:09:55
  so it can be you get to you have to describe the character, and
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  then you have to have the voice that you would have for that character.
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  Okay, let's see I go first, all right, Mason first. Oh,
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  so I have to figure out what character I'm gonna do. Yep,
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  But it's give us a physical description and then tell us or then like,
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  give us an example of what his voice would sound like. Well, well,
• 1:10:24
  let me start out by saying, I'm horrible at accents. Colin knows
• 1:10:28
  all about this. It's also you know, he's also terrible at names.
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  I'm surprised you Dan, Yeah, you know what. I'm so used to
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  that it wouldn't. You're just like I'm Dan, Now, I guess and
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  just go with that. I feel like I'm going to be so bad,
• 1:10:46
  Like I couldn't even I couldn't even tell you what I would I'm just like,
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  so I would be the worst voice actor in the world, like out
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  of the eight billion, just come up with one. I can't even I
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  don't even know where to begin. I I'm gonna just copy. I'm gonna
• 1:11:00
  copy like another voice, all right, So so so give us give us
• 1:11:05
  a cartoon rendition of Malachai your brother. Hah. Okay, that that's a
• 1:11:12
  good place to start. I guess, uh what I don't even know what,
• 1:11:15
  like, what are the classic things that he says? But you want
• 1:11:20
  you won't go? Bro? You want? You won't go? Right now?
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  Bro? You want? You want? You want to go? You
• 1:11:26
  want to go? Bro? Are you you want to go? Right now?
• 1:11:29
  Bro? Bro out? So what's hilarious that Malachi is not a big
• 1:11:34
  person? But maybe in cartoon version he is a big person. Not a
• 1:11:40
  big person, but he like he makes his voice sound like he's a big
• 1:11:42
  person. Yeah, so he's got little man syndrome. Well he sounds intimidating
• 1:11:45
  all state. Yeah. Well then you see Napoleon show up and you're like,
• 1:11:49
  really, that's the guy with the voice, that's the dude. It's
• 1:11:53
  like, Lord Farquat, Yeah, good hairt's hear your voice? Oh all
• 1:12:03
  right, I'll go next my I'll do a Okay. Let let's say it's
• 1:12:13
  like a fourth grade class. This is like the nerdy Kiden class who's like
• 1:12:18
  super super innocent. Okay, hey guy, uh, I think there's something
• 1:12:25
  wrong with my braces. They won't stay together anymore. They're like popping out
• 1:12:32
  of my mouth, Miss b Can I go to the bathroom? Right?
• 1:12:41
  That was? That was like SpongeBob's like sick cousin or something is dying.
• 1:12:54
  I do do a decent mister crabs. I gotta get that right quick here.
• 1:12:58
  Let's go all right, not to be moved. That's pretty good.
• 1:13:03
  I think Trump is even better. If it's decent. Is that the best?
• 1:13:09
  I walked into the room and I said, you know what, if
• 1:13:12
  we went a great Trump, we gonna have the greatest microphone. Wow.
• 1:13:19
  Sometimes didn't lead with that. That was phenomenal. Sometimes it's good, sometimes
• 1:13:23
  it's not. I don't know that was, mister president. Thank you very
• 1:13:26
  much. Love all right, your cartoon character that you would come up with
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  on the spot. Unfortunately, mine would be just the most valley of valley
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  girls because of God love so many and my and my sister is one of
• 1:13:39
  them. God bless her sweet soul. But this is how she literally talks.
• 1:13:42
  It doesn't matter if there's an S in the word. You will hear
• 1:13:45
  the list, you will hear the s. It doesn't matter. Guys,
• 1:13:49
  guys, guys, seriously, seriously, we got to go do this thing.
• 1:13:54
  Guys, are you listening. Let's go Dane, Dane, No,
• 1:13:59
  you're stupid, No, you're stupid. Quit being a little bit. So
• 1:14:01
  let's get in the car, Get in the car, get in the car,
• 1:14:04
  let's go. Dang. There's a lot of that, just naggy gold.
• 1:14:11
  I could embarrass myself for y'all. You're very good at that. You're
• 1:14:15
  very good, unfortunately too good. I watch a show called Selling Sunset,
• 1:14:17
  and it's all these realtors that are like women, valley girl women that sell
• 1:14:23
  like multimillion dollar houses around like l A. And they all sound exactly like
• 1:14:28
  that, every single one of them. It's like even if they weren't,
• 1:14:31
  even if they didn't grow up in LA, they just pick it up right
• 1:14:33
  away because like you, thank you Instagram culture. Yeah, it's definitely grown.
• 1:14:39
  I think the only other version of that is like the more lackluster one.
• 1:14:42
  It's just like, yeah, seriously, oh well that was a Pollyon,
• 1:14:50
  wasn't it. I've been they I've been talking to. Yeah, those
• 1:15:00
  types of I will say. I saw that movie in theaters and I was
• 1:15:04
  on the floor rolling when I first saw that movie. Oh that's a sticky,
• 1:15:08
  nasty floor. Man. It was growth. But you know, I
• 1:15:12
  don't know how old it was. I was young enough to not care.
• 1:15:15
  Literally really lovely well, Dane, So thank you so much for chatting Moore
• 1:15:20
  about Ugly Pretty. We're really stoked about what's going to be coming out in
• 1:15:25
  the future with all you guys. Hopefully you come by where Colin and I
• 1:15:29
  live and we can catch you guys at a show at some point, but
• 1:15:30
  yeah, it would be just super cool to stay connected and we're just really
• 1:15:34
  stoked about all the things that are coming out of your world right now.
• 1:15:38
  Thank you guys. Man, it's a huge blessing to be here and just
• 1:15:40
  get the hit up from you guys. It was really really cool and obviously
• 1:15:44
  you know, we talked for a little bit. Just send them back and
• 1:15:46
  forth some love. But yeah, I know, it's just a huge blessing
• 1:15:49
  to be on with you guys. Meet you guys, and hopefully we'll be
• 1:15:53
  around your area sooner than later and just get some hands on right let's do
• 1:15:57
  it. Appreciate you guys very much. World Day, Paya Science faust on
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