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Maxx Crosby · Bussin' With The Boys

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  Speaker 1: Carl would fucking lose his mind and fucking yell at Marcus.
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  Speaker 2: Fucking slowed down.
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  Speaker 3: We're not fucking running fifty leave.
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  Speaker 4: Down, Hey, get the mic clothes bro. Welcome to Busting
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  Speaker 4: with the Boys. We have an awesome guest on today,
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  Speaker 4: Max Crosby. Everybody, we finally got the boy to Nashville.
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  Speaker 4: We finally got the boy in Nashville after after how
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  Speaker 4: many letdowns are two?
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  Speaker 2: Three? I think two? Possibly? It was disappointing.
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  Speaker 4: I'll say I was hurt because I felt like we
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  Speaker 4: had a nice little friendship going on.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was, uh, you know, a rough time. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know I had to get right. You know, I'm here.
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  Speaker 1: I told you I'll be here.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 5: Let's h explain your voice because it's obviously.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah it's all the time. No, I just had a
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  Speaker 1: little COVID bit so like a month ago, right, a
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  Speaker 1: month ago. Yeah, it was, uh, it's not all right.
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  Speaker 1: I was a little congested. I'm still I'm finally getting
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  Speaker 1: my my voice like back now.
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  Speaker 4: So oh wait, I haven't done this last couple of times.
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  Speaker 4: This podcast is presented by Barstool Sports. Shout out the
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  Speaker 4: boys of Barstool Sports. I always got to say that.
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  Speaker 4: If not, like, it's just it's a bit of a deal.
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  Speaker 4: I gotta make them clip in this thing. Oh this
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  Speaker 4: episode B with the Boys, the voice is brought presented
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  Speaker 4: by Barstool Sports. If I don't do that, we gotta
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  Speaker 4: say it. If we don't say it within the first
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  Speaker 4: couple of minutes, you know what I'm saying. So it's
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  Speaker 4: more of a bit of a deal for bloss back there.
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  Speaker 4: He gets a little angry with me, which is fair.
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  Speaker 4: It's meridian, but uh.
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  Speaker 5: He so COVID you had it last year though in
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  Speaker 5: training camp, didn't you?
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  Speaker 1: Technically I had it, but it was kind of my fault.
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  Speaker 1: So I went, how what do you that first two
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  Speaker 1: days of camp, feeling good, I'm back in football, finally
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  Speaker 1: back in the facility.
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  Speaker 2: Get a call at five point thirty in the morning
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  Speaker 2: and he's like, you tested positive.
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  Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. It's like, how are you feeling? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you have symptoms whatever. He's asked me a bunch of questions.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, listen, bro, I don't have it.
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  Speaker 2: I feel good. I was like, I'm a little bit
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  Speaker 2: stuffed up.
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  Speaker 1: I have allergies around this time, but like I'm fine,
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  Speaker 1: He's like he's talking to me whatever. And then he's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, technically, since you know you have allergies and
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  Speaker 1: you're stuffed up, that that's considered a symptoms, so you
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  Speaker 1: have to sit at home for ten days. This was
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  Speaker 1: greatest training camp started. So I'm like, I shouldn't even
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  Speaker 1: have said anything. I was just being honest.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, oh so wait, did you test positive for
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  Speaker 5: it or not?
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  Speaker 1: I tested positive, but they never retested me and I
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  Speaker 1: never got sick because this was kind of the first
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  Speaker 1: wave when all the that was, when it was thing
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  Speaker 1: was kind of happenings like that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and it was wrong. I got you, yeah, I had.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I'm got to get naughty with that thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah I know you get it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah you got a treat.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, true to right. You know what I'm saying, like,
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  Speaker 4: don't feel weird, there's nothing. Yeah, just grab that thing,
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  Speaker 4: get a little close to your mouth. But when, uh,
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  Speaker 4: what game was it? I want to say it was
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  Speaker 4: it was Green Bay. I Charro was feeling a little
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  Speaker 4: under the weather, but it was kind of like a
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  Speaker 4: mild headache and a very low fever. Like I'm talking
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  Speaker 4: like ninety nine and a half like, nothing serious. And
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  Speaker 4: I leave the house and she's like, you know, babe,
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to I don't want to worry you,
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  Speaker 4: but you know, I feeling like this, I would hate
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  Speaker 4: for blah blah blah blah blah. So I basically take
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  Speaker 4: a screenshot and send it to our head guy Todd,
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  Speaker 4: and he's like, we got to do the whole close
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  Speaker 4: contact thing with you.
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  Speaker 2: And so I just just sit there and isolated. I
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  Speaker 2: had to leave the facility. I had to go home.
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  Speaker 4: I felt nothing, and I knew in my mind, I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: there's nothing going on with her, you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 4: Like it wasn't like she had the symptoms of COVID.
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  Speaker 2: But you have to play. You got to play. You
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  Speaker 2: had to play it so safe. This year, it was
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  Speaker 2: like I.
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  Speaker 5: Had to write a separate plane.
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  Speaker 4: Even on the way back, I was like, I was like, uh, boys,
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  Speaker 4: we win this game, Like oh wait, no, it's Texans.
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  Speaker 4: It was a Texas because we did win. That's when
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  Speaker 4: we won the clinch the division. Because I was pissed.
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  Speaker 4: I had to isolate in the hotel room.
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  Speaker 1: I remember that that was when we all were kind
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  Speaker 1: of under a lot of ship. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and I was.
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  Speaker 4: Like, boys, we clinched the division, like I'm riding back
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  Speaker 4: with the fellas, Like I'm not riding by myself home.
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  Speaker 4: But uh, because that you sit there and do retest,
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  Speaker 4: which it seems like you didn't get the retest in
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  Speaker 4: training camp.
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  Speaker 1: No, I literally that was helpless. So you just chilled
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  Speaker 1: at home for ten days? Yeah, middle of the training camp.
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  Speaker 2: I came. I came back and it was halfway through
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  Speaker 2: training camp. Wasn't nice though? Wasn't mad? Was he mad?
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  Speaker 2: Like after the first couple of days, did you really
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  Speaker 2: lose there? Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: I didn't really lose like it would have been if
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  Speaker 4: you had COVID for real. But since you didn't you
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  Speaker 4: get out of training camp middle of training camp, we
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  Speaker 4: already had a shortened training camp.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. I mean I wasn't mad necessarily.
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  Speaker 1: It was just the fact I knew Rod Marinelli was
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  Speaker 1: gonna kill me when I came back, So that was
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  Speaker 1: what was lingering.
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  Speaker 2: In my head.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I just city for ten days. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I really can't do that much at home. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: like when I go back, I'm screwed. I'm gonna be dying,
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  Speaker 1: Like because the first two days, Marionelli was literally trying
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  Speaker 1: to kill us.
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  Speaker 5: But you talk about the legend of Marinelli, bro I've heard,
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  Speaker 5: I've heard stories.
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  Speaker 2: I love that man. I love him.
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  Speaker 5: I heard the old school.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, he's a Vietnam veteran. He's straight from
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  Speaker 1: the book. Like this dude, he walks up no matter
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  Speaker 1: where you're at in the building, he just stirs the
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  Speaker 1: pot at all times.
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  Speaker 2: He'll come up.
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  Speaker 1: He just tries to motivate you in so many odd ways.
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  Speaker 1: But like it helps a ton because he just he
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  Speaker 1: loves the shit so much and he's been in it
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  Speaker 1: for so long. It's like you have to respect what
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  Speaker 1: he says. So like, yeah, matter how off the wall
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  Speaker 1: some ship, he's just like, I fuck it, Like I'll
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  Speaker 1: just do it.
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  Speaker 5: What's the most off the wall ship? You heard that's appropriate.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, I don't know if there's anything a lot,
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  Speaker 1: but this is back to the COVID things, back to COVID.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm he calls me and he's like, you're fucking
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  Speaker 1: you need some of my blood.
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  Speaker 2: My bloods fuckings up with.
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  Speaker 1: All this ship. I'm like, you're probably not wrong. I
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  Speaker 1: fucking I would destroy that virus. That's fucking nothing. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm just like, I don't even know what the fuck
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  Speaker 1: to say. So he's just going on. I'm dying laughing,
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  Speaker 1: and he's like, he goes, that's what you need to do.
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  Speaker 1: He goes, go in your backyard. I know you got
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  Speaker 1: palm trees, you got all that. He does need to
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  Speaker 1: go in the fucking backyard, doesn't need to work our
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  Speaker 1: hand drills.
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  Speaker 2: And he's sending me all this ship. He was dead
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  Speaker 2: ass serious. He's sending you videos.
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  Speaker 1: He's sending me the drills, the name of the drills
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  Speaker 1: that I need to do on a fucking stiff palm tree.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, he's fucking men. And he calls me
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  Speaker 1: day in the middle meetings in front of Everybody's like Max,
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  Speaker 1: blah blah blah, this is what's on the palm trees.
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  Speaker 1: This is what I need to do today. This is
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  Speaker 1: what we went over, blah blah blah. And he's like,
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  Speaker 1: I need you to send me videos. I'm in a
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  Speaker 1: fucking I'm in my backyard, no no fucking shirt on,
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  Speaker 1: smacking doing handrels on a palm tree. And my hands
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  Speaker 1: were fucking literally had splinters in my hands. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: sending in the video and he's dead ass series. I
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  Speaker 1: did it the whole quarantine in my backyard.
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  Speaker 4: Now was he coaching you through these videos that you
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  Speaker 4: were sending him, He just like, you know, you gotta
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  Speaker 4: fucking strike here.
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  Speaker 1: Knowing him, he probably just fucking dying laughing because he
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  Speaker 1: just I would just send the videos.
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  Speaker 2: You go, great, way, that's it. He wouldn't even tell.
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  Speaker 2: He wasn't even too you know what a legend.
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  Speaker 1: He's a legend, bro, He's I've never been around someone
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  Speaker 1: like him.
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  Speaker 4: I heard heard. I heard he's tough on the on
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  Speaker 4: the field. Oh yeah, I'm talking like running ship conditioned.
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  Speaker 2: It's called edds Our everyday drills.
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  Speaker 1: We do him every single day and started training camp
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  Speaker 1: to the end of the season week seventeen, we're fucking
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  Speaker 1: first ten minutes, we're going like, yeah, flying through bags,
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  Speaker 1: get off, different from last year, change direction. Yeah, in
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  Speaker 1: a way, like Coach Buck was pretty tough on us too.
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  Speaker 1: But I feel like as the season went on, like
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  Speaker 1: you know, we kind of took the foot off the
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  Speaker 1: gas er and practice a little bit. But man Nell,
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  Speaker 1: he was just like he took care of us, so
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  Speaker 1: he didn't try to right necessarily kill us. But like
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  Speaker 1: that first ten minutes, we're fucking, we're getting you're working, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're you're ready to go. Yeah, right off the bath.
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  Speaker 1: So that's that's hilarious. Yeah, he's the next level.
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  Speaker 5: How Uh, let's talk about the season.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about it.
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  Speaker 4: Because the boys had it up and down year again. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you guys started off solid, similar to the year before.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah it was. It was six and three. Huge, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: huge win over the Chiefs too. And then it's like
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  Speaker 1: it's like the back half.
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  Speaker 2: Every time.
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  Speaker 5: Here, Hang on a second, my age is calling me, Neil, what's.
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  Speaker 2: Up, little content superstar? What's up? Boss? Just wanted to see.
• 9:02
  Speaker 1: What you thought of TJ.
• 9:03
  Speaker 2: Hockinson and how that Boston radio interview went.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm actually uh about to interview Max Crosby, but TJ.
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  Speaker 4: Hockinson was phenomenal. I didn't ask the question. I didn't
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  Speaker 4: ask the would you cat your dig off for a
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  Speaker 4: Super Bowl?
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  Speaker 2: I'm glad, thank god. I know I told people you're coachable.
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  Speaker 2: Uill beus Hall of Famer.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, but he he was awesome. Were we're gonna have
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  Speaker 5: him on again?
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  Speaker 2: Good? So you're glad. I can't up on that. Oh absolutely,
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  Speaker 2: And Max Crosby is the kicker.
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  Speaker 5: No, no, he's a d N for the Raiders.
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  Speaker 2: Mason. You're thinking a Mason h okay, yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, I'm about to interview him, so I gotta
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  Speaker 4: get off, all right, I'll see you.
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  Speaker 2: So I're like, oh, yeah, fuck that kid, all about
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  Speaker 2: that guy? Fucking ale Hey.
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  Speaker 4: When he goes Max Crossby, I was like, oh, man,
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  Speaker 4: I hope you don't say.
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  Speaker 2: Some shit about what I'm saying. I was just ready.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, were what is he about to say?
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  Speaker 4: You know, I talked to Rob Marinelli and he told
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  Speaker 4: me that Meg is a fucking cow. Yeah yeah, Palm
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  Speaker 4: Tree game is weak, but talk about the ebbs and
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  Speaker 4: blows of the season.
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  Speaker 2: It was.
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  Speaker 1: It reminded me a lot of our time when we
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  Speaker 1: when you were there my rookie year, it was more promising,
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  Speaker 1: even you know, that was the fucking the hardest part
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  Speaker 1: about it was worth.
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  Speaker 2: Six and three.
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  Speaker 1: We've beaten the Chiefs, we've beaten the Saints, we beat
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  Speaker 1: the fucking Browns. We're beaten all top tier teams. So
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: just our confidence level was like we couldn't do anything wrong,
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  Speaker 1: like we just fell in, practiced our confidence. It almost
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  Speaker 1: got to a point where like we were too fucking
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  Speaker 1: like we're like, oh, we got this ship. So it
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: almost felt like and you could see it, like people started,
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  Speaker 1: you know, workouts, people are doing the same, you know,
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  Speaker 1: doing the same. Do you feel like guy's got more
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  Speaker 1: loose about it? Yeah, I feel I feel like so
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: in in a way. And that's something we talked about,
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  Speaker 1: you know, after the season. It is like staying locked
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  Speaker 1: in from second you get in the training camp to
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  Speaker 1: the week seventeen, we're fucking dialed.
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  Speaker 2: And that's something that bothered me.
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  Speaker 1: And that's you know, it's it's tough, but yeah, you
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  Speaker 1: know it's tough, but you know, we have a ton
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  Speaker 1: of potential and if we're playing as a team and
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  Speaker 1: at our best, can beat anyone.
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  Speaker 5: Oh absolutely, I think it.
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  Speaker 4: I mean every team who's like playing well, they do
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  Speaker 4: feel theirself a little bit like I mean, everybody kind
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  Speaker 4: of goes through it a little bit. Yeah, because like rape,
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  Speaker 4: he always does such a good job, like when we win,
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  Speaker 4: Like when we're winning, you almost sit there and you're like, yo,
• 11:44
  Speaker 4: do you even feel like we won? Because he's so
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  Speaker 4: like wants to humble you, wants to humble you about it,
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  Speaker 4: like stay the course, like stay, keep your blinders and
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  Speaker 4: blah blah blah, and you'll leave a meeting like does
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  Speaker 4: he know, Like we're like we're winning. But that's like
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  Speaker 4: that's the athlete in us, Like that's like you know,
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  Speaker 4: as the coaching in them to where they're trying to
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  Speaker 4: keep you levelheaded about it. But you know, messing with
• 12:04
  Speaker 4: all every different type of person in the locker room.
• 12:08
  Speaker 5: It's always it's always a little different, it is.
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  Speaker 1: And that's like I can see both sides, like and
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  Speaker 1: I get it. Being a coach, you're like, Okay, I
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  Speaker 1: don't want these fucking guys think they're you know, they've
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: they've made it now, right because they whatever had a
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  Speaker 1: couple of good games.
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  Speaker 2: You won a couple of games, Like I get it.
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  Speaker 2: But as a.
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  Speaker 1: Player you're like, okay, like you feel good and like
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  Speaker 1: me personally, like I really care about every single game,
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: like my individual performance. I know if I'm at my best,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna help my team win, Like I'm gonna give
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: my team a better chance to win. So like I
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: try to be as diued as I possibly can. And
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: you can fall into that. The media, there's so much
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: different shit going on. It's like you can fall into
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: that trap. But you know that's why I feel like,
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: you know, just as a team, we got to be
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: locked in and like I feel like Gruden does a
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  Speaker 1: great job.
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  Speaker 2: Like he you know how Gruden is.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, he's just stuck on at twenty four to seven
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  Speaker 1: in the offseason, Like I'm there rehabbing every day. Now
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: he's fucking he pulls me in. I'll be in the
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: in the training room yesterday. It's like, Manx, come up here.
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  Speaker 1: I want you to fucking watch a little bit of
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: film and they I got, I got some guys I
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: want you to see, like little ship like that. Like
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: he's locked in fucking all year round. So as a team,
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  Speaker 1: it's tough. There's so many personalities and there's so much
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: shit going on that Like it's a tough job to
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  Speaker 1: really win at and fucking win a super Bowl. Bro,
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  Speaker 1: everyone's got to be fucking on the same page. Oh yeah, everyone,
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  Speaker 1: It's it's different.
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  Speaker 2: Bro.
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  Speaker 4: Like Tampa Bay won and they weren't even the best
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  Speaker 4: in their division coming going into the playoffs, you know
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  Speaker 4: what I mean, they were zero.
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  Speaker 2: And to against the Saints.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they got blown out, like they got blown out
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  Speaker 1: by the Chiefs. Tyreek Hill had like two fifty against him.
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  Speaker 1: He come, he goes in the Super Bowl, he didn't
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  Speaker 1: have he had like seventy yards. But it was like
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  Speaker 1: towards the right game.
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  Speaker 2: But r Bro, they I don't know what they do
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  Speaker 2: or what they did. But like, isn't.
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  Speaker 4: Dialed in at Isn't it insane? Like just Tom Brady
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  Speaker 4: just still doing it? And he just signed, like he
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  Speaker 4: just signed again. He just signed the day.
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  Speaker 1: God, it's unreal, bro, it really is unreal. This Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: my bad, Yeah I got you. Yeah, as we get
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  Speaker 1: to edit, so no, you're good. But yeah, no, it's uh,
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  Speaker 1: it's unbelievable tom Brady, Like this is ship he's done
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  Speaker 1: is It's unbelievable. And I just get to play against him.
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  Speaker 1: He's the only guy I've been like like, that's fucking
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  Speaker 1: Tom Brady. Yeah, like bro Field, Like before the game,
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  Speaker 1: I'm usually I try to get out there before everyone
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: kind of just do my little stroll and my you know,
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  Speaker 1: my pregame little outfit.
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  Speaker 2: I fucking walk out.
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  Speaker 1: I'm in the opposite end zone in Vegas, in Vegas,
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  Speaker 1: and I fucking I see Brady walk out of the
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  Speaker 1: tunnel by himself. He's like around the fifty yard line.
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: I'm like, it's fucking wild, Like I kind of look
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: you want to say, like some top what up? But yeah,
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: like after the game, like they fucking they smacked us,
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: and it was it was a tough game. But like
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: getting to talk to him after the game, I like
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: I looked at him. I looked like I was looking
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: at a guy. Yeah it's different, bro, Like I see
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: my homes and I Drew Breeze and those guys like
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: no disrespect to him, the fucking great players like something.
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: It was just different, bro, it was like not a human. Yeah,
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: it was different. I don't know what to do.
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: We played against the Patriots. When I was watching and
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: he pointed, He's like Jack's fifty one. I'm thinking, oh shit,
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: that's me. Yeah, you know, like yeah, like I get
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: you get mics like every game. You know what I'm saying,
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: but like what's coming out is not oh shit, that's
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: Tom Brady. He's fucking yeah, he's talking about me.
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: Like it's it's different, bro. I don't know what it
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: is with him, but he's just he's on disputed go.
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: It's like being a basketball player. And you're going against Jordan,
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: they're getting to meet him. It's like yeah, like that's
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: the few to go play the game. It's a football
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah, there's like all arguments. What do you
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: think about the arguments when people are making he the greatest?
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: Is he have the greatest resume of all time.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: As far as like like if you're.
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: If you're measuring him up to like the goats of
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: the other sports, like Jordans.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well you look at it. The first thing everyone
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: says is your rings? How many rings you have? Yeah,
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: he just passed Jordan's, so he's got seven. But the
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: only thing with Brady that just makes it weird. It's
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: like he's he's the greatest athlete of all time. That's
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: what people say. He's an athletics that white dude. Yeah,
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: so just like fuck.
• 16:07
  Speaker 6: Like he's it's hard to say, Yeah, he's the greatest
• 16:11
  Speaker 6: athlete of all time and he.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Couldn't outrun my dog. Yeah right, he's a meeta. Yeah,
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: Like that's why it's just weird. Like that's why I
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: think I guess a little tricky, Like you can't really
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: cross sports.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: It's hard, it's too hard.
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: He's like he gets real tricky, But what's impressive about
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: it is he's won more championship Jordan in this in
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: the team game that is football. Yeah, because football is
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: like the most like you were saying it earlier, like
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: you need everybody.
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: It doesn't matter how well you start.
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: It's like you got to hit the stride going into
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: playoffs and you have to be on your ship because
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: there's only one game.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: There's no best of seven.
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: You get one weekend between every game, like you're prepping
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: for that one game.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: And it's just different, Like.
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: You have fifty three guys on a roster and you're
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: trying to get everybody drinking the same kool aid to
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: go after and win a Super Bowl when anything can
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: happen too. It's not like somebody can just take over. Yeah,
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: I mean Tom can, but you know you need everybody.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you need a receiver to run the right route
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: and needs to catch it. He's got it. There's so
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: much to it. But when you look at him, you
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: don't win.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: Fucking seven super Bowls by coincidence. Yeah, that just doesn't
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: happen by accident. Like he's it's his aura. I just
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: feel like that's what it is about him. Like the team,
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Like when he came to the Buccaneers, they basically have
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: the same roster, Like why is he at the Buccaneers
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: there's seven to nine and like they're like, shit, Jamie
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: super five thousand yards. Like, Bro, Brady came in and
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: changed everything. They all bought in on Brady basically, right,
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: you come in you have a guy that's that highly respected.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: It's that's it makes a difference. Bro, He's just yeah,
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: especially when he's your quarterback running the show. It's like
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: you don't want to disappoint him almost, That's what I
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: feel like, Like, yeah, four Nette was on his shit
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: like everybody was just clicking.
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: It's got to be different too, Like when you're one
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: of the players, Yeah and Tom's on your team. Yeah,
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: and he you speaks on basically anything, You're just like, oh,
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: that is that is fact. Whatever he's saying, you know
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: what I mean, Like, how do you how do you
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: think any differently?
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, and debate him about like
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: argue like you're just like it's time like you yeah,
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: like we got to pick our shit up. Yeah, we
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: got to pick our up.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: He knows how it looks, he knows how it's supposed
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: to look in practice. He's yeah, it's just powerful, It
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: really is, especially in football, there's too many moving pieces.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Like you have a guy like that, It's makes it easier,
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: no doubt.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: Year one to year two, What are some of your
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: biggest what are the biggest differences going from year one
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: to year two? What you learn because you were you're
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: not a rookie anymore. Yeah, yeah, it was especially coming
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: off the rookie year you had. You had what ten sacks?
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, ten sacks? I mean you were the big dog
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: on campus. Yeah, a little bit, but it was. It
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: was awesome. Like my whole experience from year one to
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: year two are completely different. And like for me, I
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: knew coming in, I'm a fourth round pick. I went
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: to Eastern Michigan trash cool. Yeah, okay, relax, well you
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: do beat Nebraska.
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: Okay, let's take it easy.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: I'm serious. But anyway, we just going into that year.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm coming from Eastern. I have a fourth round guy,
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: I have no expectations. Like just for me, I'm like, okay,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna just come in. I got to just prove
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: every single day that I've deserve to be on the team.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Like I wasn't even guaranteed the spot, like that was
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: a third string DM slotted in going into camp.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: And y'all, y'all drafted, y'all drafted top five, same spot exactly.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: So it was like, okay, Like I knew you would
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: have a lot more pressure than me. And for me,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: it's like if I just come in, do my thing
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: every day, do what I've done all the college, come in,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: I'll work people and just make plays.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: That's all I gotta do.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: And for me, my mindset never changed and it was
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: the same thing. You know, I just had an opportunity.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: That's what it basically came down to. And you know,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: I got my opportunity and everything, you know, panned out well.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: But going into my second year, it was like, okay,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: now it's flipped like now, okay, boom, you had ten
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: sacks of a rookie. Now everyone knows who you are.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: You're getting expectation, more expectations.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: You know. It's just a lot that goes with it.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: And for me, like I didn't go to a big school,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: so there's no social media outlet, it's like talking.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: About you all the time. It was just a little
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: bit different. So like Eastern Michigan.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Eastern Michigan where yeah, in the middle of Ipsila.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: No one goes there for vacation, but that's trash. I'm
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: giving a shout out to Ipsilanta because I love I
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: love Eastern.
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  Speaker 1: Boys and it was just yeah, it was it was
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  Speaker 1: a tough year mentally for me. I would say, you know,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: early on, just trying to you know, battle, trying to
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: meet expectations and deal with a lot of shit I
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: had going on. So yeah, for just mentally was the
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: hardest thing for me.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: But what was the hardest part mentally? Shit? Well, like
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: when you're sitting here.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: Talking about like what's what's flashing in your head, like
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: what are the things that were the hardest mentally?
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, for me, coming off my rookie year, I'm
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: fucking it felt like nothing could go wrong for me,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: and just like I got lost in the sauce a
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: little bit. And for me, I've always you know, been
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: a person who loves the fucking party and I like
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: to I was that kind.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Of guy in college and growing up.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: So for me, shit, I always kind of it was
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: kind of an issue for me, but I just was
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: able to get through and shit like that. But once
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: you know, you have your first NFL off season, you
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: have four months off completely yeah, no rules, you know,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: no class you gotta be at. For me, I just
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: you know, I was lost in a way.
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: Oh so you're you're saying like you started to get
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: after it and get in the deep end with when
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: it comes to getting lost in the sauce parties.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: I was just partying, and you know, I just I
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: was drinking way too much and got to a point
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: where I was like, Okay, what the fuck am I doing?
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: I woke up one morning, I'm like, I need help,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Like I can't even. I was at a point where
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: it was just it was I didn't I had no
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: management in my life. I was fucking all over the place.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I went and got out. What happened that
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: made you realize, like, oh, this is fucking bro. I
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: was just I was lost. I was lost just mentally.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: I couldn't.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: I was so just my decision making and my fucking
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: my priorities were so backwards that it was just like, okay,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: what am I doing? Like I just had a great
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: rookie year. I fucking I have money to take care
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: of myself. I have a beautiful house now in Vegas.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Like from the outside, everything looked.
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: Like you got it together, like figured.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: It out, if it's got life under control. But incidebro,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: I was fucking I was dying. Bro.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: I was lost.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: I was going through so much ship just dealing with
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: you know, different just distractions and shit going on, and
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: I was fucking just lost. So for me, I was like,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: I need help. I call my agent. I fucking like,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: what month?
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Year? This is a day? Ago is a year.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: I'm a year sober, So yeah, yesterday, Hey, let's fucking
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: go man. Yeah. So uh yeah it was. It was
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: big time. So for me, I'm I'm doing great. I'm
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: fucking in the building every day, training my ass off,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm working the program.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Doing everything I need to do.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: So like, just for me, I need I needed to
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: get everything reeled in, and I knew I needed help.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: I wasn't at first.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: It's the hardest thing is just walking in the door
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: accepting that you got a problem.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: And for me, that's the hardest thing. And you see
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: people struggle with it.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: They go to fucking rehab eight times and they still
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: can't you know, they can't deal with it.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: There's so much going on.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: So for me, it was just like, literally, this is
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: what I need to do. I got sold, everything is
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: going this way, but this is off the field. I'm
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: fucking just diving off a cliff. So I just yeah,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: I fucking I talked to my team, I talked to
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: my family, my friends, my girl. Fucking it was the
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: hardest thing I ever had.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: To do every day and go to go to La
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: get all my I just I had to go get right.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: So you went to rehab in March.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Fuck yeah, bro, I was out there till yeah, March.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: I left April eleventh. I was there for thirty days,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: fucking in Hollywood and it was crazy, Bro. They fucking yeah.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: I had to I had to get my shit together.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: But it was the best thing that ever happened to me.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: I knew life now a year later, I can't even
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: tell you. Just like for me, it's like I never
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: was grew up religious and shit like that. So for me,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: it was I didn't know what it was, just like
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: me figuring it out. And my family were all we're
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: all in sports, and we just kind of figured out
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: what we did and found our way. And for me,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: I was just lost, bro, and I needed to get
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: back on track. And for me, I knew this is
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: the one thing that's always been a crutch, like even
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: in college, like I gotta I got a duy in college,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: I got in trouble. I tried to get sober, but
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: I wasn't working any program. I was just fucking my coach.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: You know, he's more so just liear.
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: Like yeah, I'm gonna switch it up, and yeah, well.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: It wasn't even that.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: It was like boom, I got in trouble and I
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: got a duy. I'm like this, I'm going into my
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: last year. I'm like, listen, coach, I can't be out
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: two games. Like my second game, we're playing Purdue. It's
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: a big ten game for Eastern. Like that's huge.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: I know it all out. I need to be on
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: the field. This is like huge.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: I knew I was going to the going to the
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: league that year, So I was like, coach, I'll fucking
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: do anything, like you got to get me. I'll fucking
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: I'll do community service, do whatever you need to do.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: So he's like, give me a couple of weeks. He
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: had a plan for me and whatever. But I wasn't
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: in AA, I wasn't working, you weren't actually fixing, white
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: knuckling and road trying to just I was just staying sober.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: I will still go to parties and be in that
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: environment sobers the motherfucker miserable And now like I can
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: my girl can have wine and do her thing whatever.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: But like it's completely different. I'm working a program I
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: have built in you know, fucking it's just a whole
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: program that I really you gotta unfold everything that you've
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: been through and going through it.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: And I know you have Waller on here and Bro.
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: I don't know if you listened to that of course,
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: of course.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: And Waller's me and Waller where we work with the
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: same people and we're fucking this my guy, like Bro,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: that's awesome a ton. So it's it's awesome and it's
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: literally a day by day thing. But it's like my
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: life now off the field is going that way now
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: instead of fucking that way. So football is football. I
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: love football everything. I put everything into it. But if
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: I don't have the off the field shit right and
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: do that, I'm not gonna be to where I want
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: to be.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: For me, like I fucking I want to be a
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. And people think probably right now, they're
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: probably like, damn, he's fucking arrogant.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Whatever, that's how I think.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And nobody thought I would fucking go and have
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: ten sacks of rookie.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: No one thought I'd get drafted.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: I left school a year early at Eastern and everybody
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: told me, I'm fucking nuts, don't leave, You're gonna fucking
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: go undrafted. But I said, no, I'm ready, and I
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: fucking just better myself, went to the combine, did my thing.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: I've always better on myself. That's how I do things.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: So yeah, for me, this is another thing. It's like, Okay,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: this is another path. I had, something I had to
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: figure out, and I've been fucking doing everything I can
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: to to do it.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: And I'm a year sober.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: I can't like at the time last year, if you
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: told me I'll be year sober today, fucking on the
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: bus with you, I'll be like, it's fucking.
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean, well it makes sense why like
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: not that you're flaking And now I feel bad that
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: I'm giving you shit for flaking because you know what
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, and you're like, you never use you never
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: know what people are going through.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like you never know, you really know, no idea. Yeah,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: not a lot of people knew.
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: Because we're trying to navigate through the super Bowl.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: We can't remember, like we're trying to oh you know,
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: I got deals, Like, yeah, I was I was doing
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: that feeling man like feeling yourself finding like the funnest opportunity.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just trying to have as much fun as I could.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: But I was just lost, Like I was not happy
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: deep down. It was fun in the moment, but I
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: was just it got worse and worse, and I was like, Okay,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: if I could fucking do everything I've accomplished so far
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: in my life, I can this. I'm a fucking attack
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: this shit just the same way as I do everything.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: And that's what I've done. And it's been awesome, bro,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Like I've fucking I've met so many, so many people.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: I've been in rooms I never thought I would be in,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: just like it's unbelievable.
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: But is this stuff you were dealing with in the season?
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Oh fuck yeah, Bro, I was. I was doing doing
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: the whole deal. But I like, Bro, I was there
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: was a couple of times that showed up, you know
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: what I mean.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: Like I'm asking because you're like, you went thirty years
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: into the rehab and then like, what's thirty days?
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: Not thirty years, not thirty days.
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: But like but say yeah, and then you're talking, You're
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: talking about you know, you were you were still in
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: it in the season, Like what's the process that goes
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: on after the thirty day thing. You know what I'm saying, Like,
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: I'm sure you're a d wall and you said you
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: meet people and talk about like what's the process that
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: you're continuing to work as you're going into the season
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: and also in season.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So, like I said, I got out April eleventh.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Then after that, I was like, okay, like Mai rehab,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Like this is like crazy to me. I'm like, we're
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: you nervous? Yeah, fuck yeah a little bit because I
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: just I didn't know it, like the thirty days I
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: had that. It's not like you just think you hear
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: the word rehab and ityone's like oh fuck, like what
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: like you're crazy?
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Like people look at you like you're crazy.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Before me, it's like I'm comfortable with my skin, so
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck, Like I'm doing what I
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: need to do.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so absolutely whatever.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: At first, I was a little freaked out, and once
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: I got out, I was like, Okay, I did my
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: re I did my thirty days. Like I'm trying to
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: just go home and build my girl and the dogs
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: and do thing I mean in Vegas.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like I but it was in Vegas. You know
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying, like you're going to Vegas.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but like our you know, our front office people,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: and like all the people I was working with, like
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: they're like, okay, next now you're gonna go to sober living.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: So it's basically like in a way, it's.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Like getting out of jail and going to a halfway
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: house like so as I was like I got out
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, damn, I had to go fucking to
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: another place and do this. And I was like whatever,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: I called my agent the first time, I'm like, fuck this, Yeah, yeah,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: for sure home Like fuck that, like the first like
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: I did it, Man, I did it.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: I fucking did it. I need to go home.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: But I was at the end of the day I
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: made it was the best decision I ever made, was
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: staying there.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: I was in La all the way up into the
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: training camp. Week before training camp. I ended up staying
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: all the way April all the way to August, and
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: it was amazing.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: I found a trainer out there, and I was it's
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: basically sober living here in a house like eight guys
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: and everybody it's the same shit. You reab whatever. Then
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: you go to sober living and everybody they got. You
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: go like a weight room outside and everyone like they're lifting,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: people are lifting and shit, and and you just chill,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: like you do your meetings and shit like once a
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: couple times a week, and you.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Do like your stuff that you're supposed to do. But
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: it's basically just chilling.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Like it was a nice house and in California, and
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: like we just all hung out, like we became boys.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: And at first I was so against it. I'm like,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: fuck this bro, Like get me out of here. Like
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to be with them. I'm trying to go home.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: And you know, it took a while. I was kind
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: of just like in my own little for a minute. Yeah,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: but then like I you know, I started meeting, you know,
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: talking a couple of the guys, and like everybody was
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: super cool, and like I still talk to them, you know,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: to this day. It was a few guys, and like
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: I got people that I was in rehab with that.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: I fucking still talk to right now.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Like the relationships I made and like it's like fucking
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: the biggest blessing I've ever had my life. And it's
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: like the hardest thing I've ever had to overcome. And
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: then that's why I like, I carry that shit on
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: my sleeve. I talk about it because it's like somebody
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: else is gonna need it, because like right now someone's
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: going through the same shit I went through.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: And Waller.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Having Waller in that locker room, he saw, he knew
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: what was going on with me being sober, Like during
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: the season, you probably didn't know, but like people knew
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: I was partying fucking hard like during the season, but
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: I was. You know, we're in the building six seven
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: days a week, so like you can't really do it now.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: I do it, like you know what I mean.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So like I was able to keep my
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: shit together, and but you hit that off season, you
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: got all the time on your hands.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: It's just like yeah, because.
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: There's no structure, like you said, there's no collar I need.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: I love structure, and I need structure. Like I love
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: having a schedule. I fucking like right now, I'm five
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: days a week, I'm at the facility, I'm lifting eight
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: thirty in the morning, doing all my rehab. I literally
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: go up and meet with our coaches all the time
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: like during the week. Like I like having that because
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: I don't need to just be sitting at home fucking
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: ten hours a day playing video games. Like I come
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: home around two o'clock, my girl's there, the dogs, We
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: do our thing and like I got my meal prep
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: on point. Like I'm just like that's how my brain
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: needs to for me. It's like I need that schedule.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: I need that playing Okay, boom, I'm eating this time
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: of the day. I'm I like having my ship planned
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: out because for me, just our minds being a having
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: that addictive personality.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, you need structure, bro, That's that's what I need.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: And it's life is a lot more fucking easy now
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: and simple and I'm not looking over my shoulder worried
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: about fuck what do I do to this person? What?
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Like now it's like, Okay, I get everything out. I
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: fucking I've been talking to people that I've wronged, people
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: that I've you know, had fucked up situations while I was,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: you know, going through what I was going through, and
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: like just getting that shit out instead of holding it in. Like, bro,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: it's the best feeling in the world. And like people
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: see that, they see what I'm doing for people. I'm
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: fucking helping multiple people and reaching out and doing things
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: like everything I can do because it's just it's that's
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: what like drives me now. It's like not the fame
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: and all that shit, Like it's cool. Everyone likes that,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: like everyone loves for sure, everyone does. And for me,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: I love football. I want to be the best, so
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: I want to know that people know, you know what
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: I'm doing.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: That's how it is. But for me, like having all
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: that shit off the field and doing the right things
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: in life, that shit makes me makes me so much
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: more comfortable in my skin. It's fucking it's crazy, dude.
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: Good for you, man, Yeah, that's mean. I appreciate you
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: sharing that.
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean I had no clue obviously, But
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: and you never know who's watching either or listening right now,
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like somebody could be going
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: through something thinking because everyone thinks everybody perception of like
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: an NFL player or a professional athlete, like they have
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: everything together.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Oh you know, people don't get that everyone is a
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: human being and they all have their own shit. Absolutely, bro.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: I I was in college, I thought people were going
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: through issues and shit. When I came to the league,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: I'm like, damn right, there's some wild shit going on
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: and people really don't.
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: Know and we're all so masculine in alpha and we
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: have a hard exterior, and you always want to seem
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: like you have the right shit going.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: On exactly, no matter what's going on, you always got to.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Put on that like I'm good, like I could fucking
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: you know, I can handle anything, right. That's what a
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: lot of people are scared of doing, is like fucking
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: something that you know, people got issues going through shit
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: and just like facing that ship out on and so.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I was.
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: I don't know if it was like Gary Vee or
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: Rogan recently, but one of them made like the comment
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: I was listening to some like YouTube inspirational thing and
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: it was like, our insecurities are ours to own if
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: we just own them, like if we just if we're
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: vulnerable enough to just talk about them and own them
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: and admit that, like we have these issues going on,
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: then it just kind of liberates who you are because
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: you're able to talk about it and just be like,
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: you know, I mean, I'm a human.
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: Everybody has their own shit, you know what I'm saying.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Literally, Like my favorite quote of all time is like
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: I heard a few here in a million times being
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: in the program and shit. But it's like if you don't,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: if you've done nothing wrong in your life, then don't
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: judge me. Like if you're perfect, then you can judge me.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, bro, every every
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: fucking person in this room hast ship. You're just like fuss,
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: I'll never tell any Yeah, bus my bad. Like everybody
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: has that thing. He's like fuck oh no, I won't say, like.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, like college, I did some fucking crazy shit,
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: like some ship you try to like you know what
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, everybody has that. So like for anybody to
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: judge me because I've done what I've done, fuck that,
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Like that's cool. Like if you want to hate out
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: of me and do that, I'm fine. I'm happy with myself.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: I know what I'm doing, and I know I'm doing
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: the right shit right.
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: Right right right, you can say, and you're you're in
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: your own like awareness about it too.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I see everything so much more clear, and it's
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: just like it's the best feeling, bro, And it's it took.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: It took a lot because I was the same person
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: I was so like I really cared about my image
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: and I was like I need to be known as
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: like you know, hard ass like football player, blah blah blah.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Like that's just how we are. Like, that's how are bro,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: it's our natural nature.
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: But our insecurities only grow because you have to be
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: a macho athlete all the time.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: All the time in public with your family, everyone looks
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: at you like, oh shit, he's an NFL player, So
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: you got everything. You got to act like everything's fucking together.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: But like, at the end of the day, bro, if
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: you admit the ship, that's what's being a man. Bro.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: I don't care. I don't.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: I don't people that try to put on a front
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: and do all that shit, that ship unravels eventually.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, at the end of the day. And shit, if
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: I I have none to hide.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: It's just like for me, that feels good, like just
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: absolutely able to talk to people and let people know
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: what I went through because.
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: It's gonna help me. Yeah, it's gonna help them who
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: you don't know is paying attention. And it also like
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: you put your own accountability in there too, because you're
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: kind of, you know, saying it over and over and
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: you're putting it out there and you're kind of giving
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: yourself an accountability that you have to you know, continue
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: to kind of stay on the path.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: One when did you and Waller first have a conversation
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: about it?
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm curious about, Like was there something you
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: sat back and looked at with Waller and You're like,
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: you know what I need to I need to fucking
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: admit that I have something going on here and he's
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: able to do it, and it kind of gives me, uh,
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: I guess, courage to fucking you know, feel better. But
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying it's him, but I'm saying no, it
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: had to have felt good knowing that somebody like Waller's out.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: There talking about it.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And you see, like so for me, like it
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: wasn't me going like talking to Waller one on one.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: That's not how it necessarily happened.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: But I had, you know, our same people work with
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: each other, so like we have you know, mentor sponsors,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: people were dialed in with all the time. So his people,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: like I, they worked with Waller. So then his guy
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: kind of got what I was going through. And then
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: Waller found out. So it was like, yeah, They're like
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: just come to a meeting one night. And at first
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: I'm like, fuck that shit. I'm not like I'm so
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: nervous and like at first you're terrified. Like now like shit,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: we have we have our meetings every week and like
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: it's the best fucking time. All the guys, all you
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: know former you know, guys that have gone through the
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: same shit, you know from different backgrounds and stuff. We
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: just as me Waller and good group of guys. Bro
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Like we literally just it's an hour and we just
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: talked and just talk about what you're going through and
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: it's your story. Like the biggest thing is your story
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: is gonna help. Like we just talked about that, but
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: like just hearing like what Waller's going through, Like shit,
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: he's sober, he used to over three years sober, but
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: he's still a fucking human. He's gonna have problems and
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: you're gonna have issues and shit come up.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: And that's what helps me.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, boom, he's been sober for three years,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: but shit he doesn't have everything together, right.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: I don't have everything together.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: I've been sober for a year, but I'm still learning
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: and growing so much. So for like me, it's like
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: there's fucking you see you hear from guys who are
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: forty five years sober and they're still dealing with, you
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: know this, fucking the littlest shit.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: That would bother that they know they are, Like what triggers, Yeah,
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: like a triggered.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Any little thing, like just family, wife, kids, Fucking there's
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: so much shit too it to life in general. So like,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: dealing with all that sober is not easy, especially for
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: someone who's an addict. Like that shit makes it even harder. Bro, Like,
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: you got to think about it. Normal people they like, oh,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: I need to go go get a drink, like it
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: was a long day, but they could just have their
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: wine and go to bed. Like for us, it's different, bro, Like,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: I can't just have you know, just have a beer.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: You gotta get up.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: Oh what the first drink is the bro, first drink
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: is the problem.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: It's not the same the team once that have the
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: first beers open and I shild it's it's on, like.
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: Frank to take once just touches your lift and.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: You never know where the fuck's gonna happen. Like that's
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: just the reality of how it is. So I'm not
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: afraid to say that, bro, Like, I've been through a
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: lot of ship in my life, and this has definitely
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: been the hardest one. That I've gone through, like just
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: fucking going through it, bro, Like the first few months
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: I was struggling hard. Oh yeah, I can only imagine.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: Like the first week you're like if it's like the
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: biggest relief. It's like you're getaway, like okay, I'm out
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: of this ship like my fresh star.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: Then like okay, a couple of weeks go by, like okay,
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: now what the fuck do I do?
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: In a month? A couple of months ago, I'm like
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: this fucking sucks. And now but in the again, you're
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: in Vegas. Yeah, that's the crazy part Vegas. Yeah, but
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: like I'm in Henderson, fucking quiet neighborhood. So it's like
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: it's it's cool, but it's like my point is like
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: you're you just got to stay the course.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: It's one day at a time. You're never at the end.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: You're never at the end, bro. It doesn't matter if
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: you're fifty five years in, if you fucking like both,
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: if you started letting the hand off the wheel, kind
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: of sitting back, doing kind of jumping over a little
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: fucking you know, little obstacles and shit you're usually doing that,
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: shit adds up and that could fucking that can lead
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: to that drink.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: That's what it is for me. Bro, you gotta be
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: fucking two hands on the wheel. I'm dialed in.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: I wake up every morning, every night, I do the
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: same thing, do my little you know, say my little prayer.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: I fucking have my meetings. I'm doing everything I need
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: to do because that's what I need. And like I
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: love it because it's a part of that structure. I
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: love that structure. Like that's what makes me, you know,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: be successful. Right, So it helps a ton. It's just
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: like it's life in general. It's not even just alcohol.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: It's like this, oh absolutely life, bro. Like a normal
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: person who's going through it, they deals with depression.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: If you just sit in a room and talk.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: To people and have that conversation and open up about
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: certain shit, it helps. It helps so much, Bro. It
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter what's going on with you, so and talk
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: about those insecurities. Oh fuck yeah, because that's all that
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: shit buried up. That that shit builds up, and it's
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: like that's where you just explode eventually.
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean that it is too. Like that's
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: like with life.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: Like if you like you're using an analogy, sitting back
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: and get a little loose with the wheel because you
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: you know, you have two hands on the wheel right now.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: And with anything like you start to get comfortable or
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: feel yourself or think like you've made it, or you're
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: at the end of something like literally it never ends,
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: all right.
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: Callan said it on the on the pod, like, be
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: careful what you practice.
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: You might get really good at it, or you might
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: get really good at the wrong thing. Yeah, you start
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: to let loose, You're starting to practice being lazy or
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: doing this, or letting yourself, you know, get off track
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: a little bit, and then all of a sudden you're
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: in it.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: You're in that lane. Yeah.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: You it's literally all it takes a Habit isn't hard
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: to you know, hard to grow. Oh yeah, you do
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: it one time like, oh shit, and then I can
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: I I could, you know, sleep in a little bit more.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: I can.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: I don't really need to hit all eight reps on
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: a fucking reverse hyper, like I don't need to do
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: Ready, terminology, you lose it, he said, eight reps of
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: the reverse hypers, getting them hamstrings.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: That's just how it is, bro. It's like life in general.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: And that's what I'm that's the main thing for me.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: It's like football. It's the same ship. Every little detail
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: in life, bro. If you're doesn't matter what it is,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: your family, taking care of your kids, every little thing. Yeah,
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: all of all that, ship, Bro, you get to relaxed
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: and comfortable. Ship's not gonna go well, it's.
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: Just yeah, well good for you, man, Like, that's an
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: awesome fucking story.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: I am. I did not know we were gonna go
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: down that kind of you started going. I was like, oh, ship, Like, no,
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: that's just I mean, but I do.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: I think it's a It says a lot about you
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: growing in it because you're able to talk so openly
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: about it. Like similar you know, we keep talking about
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: d Wall but similar with him, he's just able to
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: talk so freely about it. And like I, I haven't
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: had to go through something like that, but just something
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: as small as I've been doing premarial counseling with my
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: fiance and even that stuff, it's like you start learning
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: about what therapy is really like talking to a therapist
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: or somebody that can help you get this emotions out
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: of your basement that you didn't even know you had.
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like you're sitting there talking.
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: I'm talking one time because we were talking about living
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: in different places, and I'm talking about how I like
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: living in Nashville, and she wants to live around like,
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: you know, the beach or nature or something like that,
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: somewhere that's not around people that I already know. And
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: you're sitting there talking about it, and you start to realize, like, oh,
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: I've just been comfortable moving around because I'm always going
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: to my next city, to a next football team. Because
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: she's like, well, when you moved to Nashville, you didn't
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: nobody in Nashville. But in my head, I'm like, but
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: I knew I was going to a locker room, like
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: I knew I was going around people that I knew.
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: So anytime I've had to move from Nebraska to DC
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: to Oakland and Nashville, like, I always know, I'm going
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: in an environment that I recognize. So that fear of
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: not wanting to live somewhere where she's talking about living
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: because she's not in the bubble that we'rer in my
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: whole life Like that's where my fear comes from. And
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: you sit there and you talk about your transition with football,
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: how do you feel about your train like not playing
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: football anymore will And I'm like, you know, I'm not
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: like too nervous about her. It's scared about it because
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: i feel like I've built I've prepared myself for this
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: transition with busting with the boys and being like, you know,
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: an advocate for doing things off the field that keeps
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: my mind where I just.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: Don't identify as a football player. So I'm like, you know,
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: I'm not too nervous about it.
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: And she's like, you sit there and you talk about
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: your life with and she's like, no, like you're scared,
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: like you're sad, like you fear it, and I'm like,
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I mean, she's like, listen, you don't have
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: to be macho, like just talk about why you might
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: fear it. And you're sitting there talking and you're going
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: around and you're like as a kid going from little
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: league to high school and just the next segment was
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: paid for you or paved the way, was paved, paved
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: the way, whatever you want to say, but you just
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: go from locker room to the locker room and you're
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: just always for thirty one years, it's just been my yeah,
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: thirty years, right, it's already installed with the next move
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: is going to be for me sort of like there's
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: some unknown, but I know I'm playing ball and just
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: being on the other side. She's like, no, like that
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: is hard, Like that is tough, Like you don't have
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: to act like it's not tough.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: And you're sitting there. She's like, you know, pick a
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: word on the table, you pick a word from that sheet.
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: Thing that everybody knows about. You said, you pick a
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: word stuff. She's like, talk about it, and you're just
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: sitting there. You're like, I I've kind of thought I
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: already did talk about it. Like they're like, no, like
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: you elaborate more, like what do you think it is
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: that you're fearing?
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: And you go on and on and the next thing
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: you know, you're crying. You got tears coming.
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: Out of your eyes and you don't know why. And
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: I'm uncomfortable with big emotions. So I'm like, you know,
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: I'm sitting there trying to use humor to get out
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: of this conversation, you know what I'm saying. And you
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: got to sit there and live in this world, in
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: this basement of your your vulnerabilities that you didn't even
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: know you had or have words to even come up
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: with it, and like, you know, I've been in tears
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: like five out of the seven appointments and you just
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: don't know why. But I know at the end of it,
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: I like love it. Feel amazing, dude, I feel amazing.
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: You sit there, you know, you're like wiping your eyes
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: and stuff. You get out with your girl and you're like,
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: you know, this is awesome. You just have an awareness
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: about like that you're learning with yourself that you're just
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: like now I see, like you see that side of
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: it where people talk about therapy, whether it's they're going
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: through an addiction or just going to regular therapy or
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: just they're battling things where you just go and talk
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: with somebody, Like I do think there's there's something to it.
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: I love it, Like I just absolutely love it. Shout
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: out Sagegi by the way, because they're the ones. They're
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: the that's the spot I go to in Nashville. But
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: you're talking about all that stuff, and I dig it
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: because I'm sitting here and you're saying things that you
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: were once very uncomfortable talking about like you did. Like
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: you you've told me, You're like, you know, you didn't
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: want people to know, and now you're able to talk
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: about it and you just kind of feel liberated about it.
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: And it's like you're You're coming up with these things
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: in therapy that I've realized that I've had in the basement,
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: and you just feel so much better actually talking about
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: it and owning these insecurities that you actually have.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: It's the fear of the unknown, bro.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: It's like every like you said, everything in life, the
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: fear of going in just walking in the door.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: It's just like me getting sober.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: It's like the fear of the unknowns, Like, Okay, you
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: have a million things going through your head. How the
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: fucking I lives over? How can I not party? How
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: after a game on a plane, how am I not
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: gonna want to drink a beer with the guys?
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: How? Like a million things you're going through your head.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: But you'll never figure the shit out unless you walk
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: through that door and actually like.
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: And you're like, do I actually like I know I'm
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: going in to gets over, but do I actually want
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: to get you?
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: Just all these.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Conversations, it's just like you with the wife and all that. Bro,
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: I've had to deal with it, my my girl. We
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: fucking we've gone through all that. Like I've been with
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: my girl since college, Like we've had our ups and downs.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: You've seen it all, bro, So it's like and.
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: You got to get some stuff out that you're like
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: nervous to talk about everything.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: Bro, we couldn't even have the normal conversation.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: But you have someone that's you know, not that doesn't
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: have a motive or an objective behind like just narrating
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: basically laying out the floor for you and your girl
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: or whoever.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: It is just yourself right, Like it's you.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: Just you talk to you and talk to your girl,
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: and you'll be like damn, like why the fuck did
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: we just talk about this before?
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: Like this is so simple?
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Yea, this shit like we've been stressing about for a
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: fucking year, right, all we had to do is have
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: one conversation.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: But like that's life, bro.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: Everything I feel like that shit always ties to it,
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: ties to everything, bro, just being just like the fear
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: of the unknown like stops a lot of people from
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: doing what they really want to do with their life.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: Like for me, that's why the sobriety, Like back to it.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: I know I've talking about It's the same thing, bro,
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: Like the fear of the unknown. When I was leaving
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: in college, Bro, my coaches, my decordinating, all them, They're
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: blowing my phone up, bro for days and like, and
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: I don't blame them, because it was tough. Like they
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: didn't really know I was leaving. I told my coach
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: right before the bowl game, my head coach. I told them, coach,
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm really I think I'm leaving. I think I'm
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: gonna declare whatever, go out to the Phoenix. I got
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: everything set up. I already knew who I wanted as
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: my agent and shit, and you know, we got that
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: all dial But it was just like that fear of
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: the unknown. It's like you're terrified, like, oh, fuck, Like
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: what if I leave school right now and like I
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: go undrafted fucking doesn't go this way, blah blah blah blah.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: And then like I just what if I just went
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: back to school and didn't do it, Like I don't
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: even know where I'll be right now. Yeah, Like, but
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: just fucking getting in that doorbell, taking this leap of
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: faith is like that's the number one thing, Bro.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: It's the hardest thing.
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: That's the hardest thing is just choosing to take action.
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: Fuck it, Bro, just saying fuck it. And it's funny.
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: You're like you're talking about you and your girl, and
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: it's like you just needed that third party person to
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: sit there and kind of lay it out. Because the
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: way I explained it, like doing the premieritial counseling, is
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: like you have all these things that you wish you
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: could kind of have those conversations about.
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but anytime it.
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: Does so like for instance, say Charles comes home and
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: I haven't cleaned up something, and she's like, I know
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: in her mind she's doing the best way to be Hey, babe,
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: you know, do you think you can clean this up?
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: Or would you like me to clean this up? Or
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: I know you said you're going to clean up, but
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: you would you like me to go ahead and do
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: it for you? And in my mind I know she's
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: even though she's doing it in a very extremely nice way,
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: I know she has in my mind an angle about it.
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: Or something usually happens for you to have a conversation,
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: so somebody's guard is usually up going into any convers
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: you're just gonna.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: Sit there and watch TV.
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: Hey, let's talk about you know, when you didn't do
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: laundry a few weeks ago, you know what I'm saying.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: You're usually your guard's usually up.
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: About something, or something usually happens to make you talk
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: about it. We're going to primoral counseling or therapy with somebody.
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: You're sitting there taking these personality tests and you're doing
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: all these things, and they're bringing up conversations for you,
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: and you're kind of like, oh, yeah, this is a
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: good thing to talk about, and then you dive in
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: and you're reaching back and stuff in your childhood, your
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: history that you didn't even know.
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, right, but it's awesome.
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: Man, A huge advocate, huge advocate for the premoral counseling.
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: We're going to continue to do it. But therapy in general,
• 51:36
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do too.
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  Speaker 4: Playing with Marcus Marcus Mariota, yes, somebody. He came from Tennessee.
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  Speaker 4: He goes over to the Raiders. I know he's an
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  Speaker 4: offensive guy. Yeah, what was it like having having Marcus,
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  Speaker 4: having a fellow boy from the Titans over.
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  Speaker 1: Over on the Raiders. I know he's quiet, So you
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: might not even have a whole lot, see I do.
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: And this is I'm happy you ask. Like, so when
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: I first got you know, we got back in the
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: building and went, you're any camp and stuff. One is
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: you know, part of my routines and my structures. I
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: have to go in the hot tub and cold tub
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: after every practice no matter what, or I don't, I
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: can't sleep at night.
• 53:55
  Speaker 5: So I literally what a life has full life to live?
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: Bro? Like if I'm not if I if I don't
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: get in the colto after practice and like something goes
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: wrong the next day, I'm like, I'm like, that's why
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: my fucking legs aren't where they need to be.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: I'm fucking crazy like that.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: You guys know me now, But that's just how so
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: I'm in the hot tub shilling after a day of practice,
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: and fucking Marcus was always you would always be in
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: there with me. It was just me and him, and
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: I got to meet him and got to talk to him,
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: and he's super cool.
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: He's one of the most humble dude. He's so genuine
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: good dude. Bro.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: I fucking love Marcus and his girl now fiance. I
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: believe she played soccer at Oregon and my girl played
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: at Eastern Michigan with me when we.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: Were at school. She was I see both of you. Yeah,
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: so you know, the genetics are very strong.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: But anyway, so she met, you know, me and Marcus
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: met each other, and then Rachel and Marcus's fiance they
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: met each other and they started playing like rec league
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: basically soccer, just the same guysy and stuff, and they became,
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: you know, good friends and everything like that. So me
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: and Marcus this offseason, we're gonna sometime soon we're gonna go, yeah,
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: you know or something and have dinner. And but yeah,
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: he's just a he's a really good dude. And I
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: don't like practicing against him at all because he was
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: playing scout quarterback and he's fucking flying around the field
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: and it like it helped a lot, just cardio wise, Like,
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: you know, you gotta chase this motherfucker.
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: He's running, he's trying to get his in. You know
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: he's not. He's going all out.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: So I'm like, I respected it, and I'm in practice
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: we will get irritating a little bit, but I knew
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: I had to run. Fucking Carl Nasa big shout out
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: to Carl, this is my guy, bro.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: He would lose his mind in practice.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: It was like week sixteen, like week fifteen, late in
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: the year, and Marcus is still scrambling, juking, running fifty
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: hours on the field, and Carl he's you know, he's
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: a bad He's been to leave us six years now.
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: He's other big white defensive end. Carl would fucking lose
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: his mind and fucking yell at Marcus like.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: Fucking slowed down.
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: I'm not fucking running fifty I'm like, Carl, it's okay.
• 56:01
  Speaker 6: Like after it would be over, He's like he's like
• 56:02
  Speaker 6: we're playing Drew, but like he would lose a ship.
• 56:11
  Speaker 6: I'm like, Carl, just breathe, baby, come on, we're good.
• 56:13
  Speaker 6: We gotta get it in and he's like be like nah,
• 56:16
  Speaker 6: like he would be happy. You know, we had to
• 56:18
  Speaker 6: go through it, but in the moment, he would absolutely Bro,
• 56:21
  Speaker 6: he lost.
• 56:22
  Speaker 5: His ship, especially legs you're a little heavy.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: Carl is a character, Bro. He would fucking go just
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: something the little ship would he would just it would
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: just set him off. Bro, we would fucking die.
• 56:34
  Speaker 5: Staying on quarterback Derek Carr is everybody.
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: Aware of all the bullshit he and he endures in
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: the media, social and all that.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: Ship Dude, Yeah, well it's it would be impossible unless
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: you literally have no social media.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: Is that not some craziest thing?
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: Bro? He trends like every other day. It's unbelievable because
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: he's fucking good.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: He had his best season, his best season of his career,
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: and you look at every number, every stat whatever, and
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: people still look for a reason to try to shoot
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: on him. And it, like, for me, it bothered me
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: because I know Derek. I me and Derek have an
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: awesome relationship and he's like the one guy. If everyone
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: just knew him and had a conversation with no question,
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: you would feel like a piece of garbage trying to
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: downgrade him. So he's some fucking the dude's in the
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: building every day. Five o'clock first due in the building.
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: He fucking the dude is dialed twenty four to seven
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: and he's a quarterback.
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: So you know he's busy. But he literally not.
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: A time goes by where he doesn't text back. You
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like he's the most genuine dude.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: Yes, goes out of his way and he just he's
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: a great dude, and his place speaks for itself. You
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: look at our season. We went eight and eight. Our
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: defense was not good. It's a fact. It sucks, and
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: I was a part of it. I could be better home.
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: You guys shoulder some of that, like the heat he takes.
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: You're like, man, if we just fucking played better. But
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: you look at our offense. We're ranked top ten. We
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: averaged twenty eight points a game. We should not be
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: a name. Yeah, that's not on Derek Carr. Derek Carr
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: is bawling.
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: Fucking hurdling in mid air and trying to get a
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: first down.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: Like I respect the ship out of that. There's nothing
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: I can say bad about him. The dude is awesome,
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: and it is annoying, Like people love for some reason.
• 58:20
  Speaker 5: He's like whatever, guy, I know, they just.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: Go after like there's always trade rumors, there's always like yo,
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: were bringing them back? Like it's just I don't know.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know where it comes from, but it's unbelievable.
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: I don't either.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: It might be them eyelashes he's got he's got them eyelashes.
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: That makes you kind of like, what's this fucking guy about?
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I mean maybe no, yeah,
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: but what this family played in the NFL, Like yeah,
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: like I don't I feel you on that.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: That was just kind of before.
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that is true, that is true.
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: But I mean he's he's like, Derek's a baller dude.
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: He's been to three Pro Bowls.
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: Is it's wild to me because you see something probably
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: every other day. It's hilarious and I just don't I
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: don't know. It's it's fascinating, especially when the d struggled.
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: The defense we struggled heavily. We would do coaching changes.
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: You did I did a little I did a little
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: segment on that.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we had a you know, new coach.
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: We had a bunch of new pieces that came in
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: no offseason. Every level, we had new guys playing that
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: have never played together. Communication, wise was not where it
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: needed to be. Leadership wise wasn't where it needed to be.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: And I take responsibility. That's something I definitely am gonna
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: work towards and being a better leader and more vocal.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: But like, yeah, we just weren't on the same page,
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: Bro at all, and it was tough. I felt it's
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: just like this is the worst thing, Like you could
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: lose a game whatever, a tough game. You like you're
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: back and forth, but it's like everyone knows this is
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: a fucking elephan in the room. Like the defense is
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: struggling that ship that bothers the ship out of me, Bro,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: I can't lie, Like, yeah, it was rough, but yeah,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: they try to use DC as like a scapegoad for
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: every issue. I'm like, he's the one dude on the
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: team that you don't have to worry about like DC, oh,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: no question, Like that's it's it's crazy, Bro. I feel
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: like Stafford was similar to Stafford, like in Detroit, he
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: had to go through all that ship, but like everyone
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: knows Stafford's a baller Broster Like, so.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's interesting.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah I had to I talked about PG on one episode. Yeah,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: I know, did you hear it did you listen to
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: PG called? PG called after that segment, and I was nervous.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: I was definitely nervous about it because I'm like, he called, Yeah,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: he called, you know, give me Yeah.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, He's like, hey, COM's PG. Give me a call
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: back when you get this. I'm like, oh man, he's
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: calling about that episode. Yeah, and the the the person
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: inside me did not want to call him back. But
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: I'm thinking to myself, like, Okay, if I'm going to talk,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: if I'm going to talk about him and I'm going
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: to talk about that issue on the pod, then I
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: need to be I need to have the stones to
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: call him back and talk to him. And so you know,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: he we had we hit. We had a productive conversation.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: But uh but yeah, he wasn't he wasn't a big
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: fan and rightfully, so like it's fair and it's not.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 5: It's never on just one guy at all. It's not
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 5: on one.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: Guy that goes into it, bro especially in the NFL,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of a lot of things that
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: go on, and like, yeah, no, I don't I don't
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: blame him for being mad. I don't blame yeah, yeah,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: for sure, I know you like just it's another thing.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: It's like the pride thing is, pride is everything and
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, and like I get it,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: Like I'm me personally. I have my relationship with him,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: never had a problem with him. Dude is always good
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, so like yeah, like you know, everybody
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: has their own opinion, and it's like that's a that's fine.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: Like you don't have to agree with everybody, that's for sure.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: For sure. It's like yeah, yeah, yeah, like I get
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: into everything. It's just this is what it is. But yeah,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: it's funny.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a conversation. Was it was awkward, it
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: was tough, for sure. I'm glad I did it. I'm
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: glad I didn't puss out by calling back broad Yeah,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: I'm glad I did it. And you know, it was
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: it was fair that he didn't like he didn't like it,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: but again, like you're just talking about your own player
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 4: perspective of everything. He's like, look, I can't help I
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: couldn't get you back to Vegas. I'm like, bro, I
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: promise it had nothing to do with that because I
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: was close to coming. I was close to coming that
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: uh and fortunately the boys, the Titans offer what do
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: you say.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: I was close to close.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: I was close to climax. But yeah, man, you know
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: it's it suck because I did want to go. I
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: did want to go play for the Raiders again, but
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: it was like you couldn't not you know, having a
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: home here and everything else and playing for the Titans.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: Like I don't blame you. You saw the jersey swap. Yeah,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: when I was on the Raiders.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: Not only did you, but it was it was an
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: awkward room because I was like last coming in the
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: locker room, and then it was kind of awkward the
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: next day, Like it ain't like it rich.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: She's like a motherfucker, dude, I know I taking pictures.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, dude, I know.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: Like I struggled with that, but like also I knew
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: it was just in the moment, Like I knew it
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: was just anger and emotion. Like in the moment, I
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: was trying to like be outside of that and like, look,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 4: I know him on the back end. These moments don't
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: just happen, Like you don't just play in the NFL forever.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: Like this is a game that I don't even remember
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: what the score was now, but like it's gonna be
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: an afterthought, like this moment, I just did it, but
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: I knew. I knew I was gonna have some like looks,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: some side ice from it, rightfully, so like it was merited.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: No, I'm like I got it.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like you're gonna bust my balls. But people
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 5: you like just do it.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: To piss off and just because he was like oh boys, yeah,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: I'm like you fake motherfucker.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: I knew that would flock to it. Oh I know, yeah,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: but yeah I get it.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: Bro. It's like me, I'm playing what if I played
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: ten years of the Raiders or whatever? And then I
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: go somewhere else and I come back and like, I
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: know all the coach, I know people on the team,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: they probably do the same thing.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: Like, yeah, I don't blame him, Yeah, Rich Cherty, I
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 4: love Rich. I respect this ship out of coach Rich.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: Fucking guy Masachia. No I I I written cover that. No, no, no, no,
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: I actually.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 4: Do though, Like I fuck with Rich Like he's a
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 4: he's a. He's a he's a he's a good leader.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: He's a fucking leader amongst men, wrong fucking leader.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: Phenomenal speeches too.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: He's a realist, bro. He will tell you exactly how
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: it is. And he's another dude that when I was
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: going through what I was going through, that was one
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: motherfucker that I would face high me all the time.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: Just see I didn't want to see your face. Man,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: that's fucking awesome. Yeah, he's a fucking real one.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: I go and see him all the time. I just
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: go in his office and the ship. Yeah, he's a
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: good fucking dude. No, he's fucking awesome.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 4: When I wrote that undrafted blog or whatever, he's like, Hey,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: I fucking love this and stuff, and you just he's
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: just dope. If you are around him, you know what
• 1:05:11
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• 1:06:36
  Speaker 4: cap the it's been like, what everybody's going on?
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: What massacre Week?
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: I think Pat McAfee show credit to Pat McAfee show
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: calling it massacre week, but dudes have been getting cut.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 4: Guys who had big deals, they might be getting longer
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 4: in the tooth. Guys are getting cut, deals are getting restructured.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 4: You're seeing these new deals like Levante he signed my
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 4: boy Levonte David, he just signed a baby two years
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 4: twenty five twenty guaranteed seventeen and a half that signing.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: But so instead of, like I want to say, it's
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 4: like the signing bonus that they might be spreading. Instead
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: of spreading it out over two years, he signed for
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 4: like five years, right, three voidable years, So they're able
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 4: to spread that signing bonus out for like five years.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 4: Like teams are getting savvy and creative. Yeah, but it's
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 4: been a uh it's been a crazy week. How do
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 4: you feel about, uh, the Chiefs because they're in the
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: division letting go of both of their both of their tackles.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 5: What did you think when you saw that come across
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 5: the ticker?
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: Well, it's honestly, it definitely surprised me, like everything.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: It was funny. I woke up, I woke him in
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: the morning, and I had so many people fucking doing
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: like different memes and shit. They're like Max Crosby when
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: he wakes up this morning, blah blah blah. It's like
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: these crazy ass memes and I'm like, what the fuck?
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: But yeah, like I don't know, bro, it's tough. Like
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: Eric Fisher tore his achilles, Like that's the fuck. That's tough.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: Like oh yeah, So it's like, yeah, like I don't know.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: To put the team in a hard spot, it puts
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: the player in a hard spot. And like Mitchell Schwartz is,
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: he's been dealing with a lot of bad like back
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: problems and he's had issues too, So I don't know
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: if they're gonna bring the guys back. But like I
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: played the Chiefs this year. The first time I played,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: they were both playing, and the second time, I think
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: Schwartz was out. Yeah, so Schwartz was out and Fisher
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: was a little bit banged up, so like, yeah, you
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: saw what happened, Like, yeah, was struggling, bro, they and.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: Now they just let go both them started out. So
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: obviously you know they have a plan. They're not domb Yeah,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: they're not gonna not do We're gonna revamp and get
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: some guys for sure. So I peel.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: I saw one funny when it was like mahomes because
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 4: you know, he was trying to put the team on
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: his back in the Super Bowl, but he's like throwing
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 4: the ball laterally, and they're like, you know, fuck it,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 4: Like we'll put it all on Patch Mahomes. Like yeah,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 4: we saw him, you know, get rid of the whole line,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 4: crypt clear up the cast pace and just let Pat
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 4: Mahomes do his thing. But that stuff's wild. And then
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 4: Dak he signs a huge deal with the Cowboys. Uh,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 4: Jerry Jones ponies up and pays him, and some people
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 4: were saying that that could be tipping off.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: The TV money.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw something where it's like he could be
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: tipping off what the TV deals might look.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: Like between the NFL. Uh. But I mean it's it's
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: been a wild off season already and honestly hasn't even
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: started because for agency opens up next week. I'm excited.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: I look, you love this time of the year, just
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: like seeing all the ship as a kid, and like
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: in high school and shit, I was so fucking into like,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: all right, who's signing here? But yeah, I grew up
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: a fucking diehard Lions fan. Ironically, it's kind of funny.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: But you grew up a diehard Lions fan.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: I lived in Michigan all was ten and I moved
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: to Texas and went to middle school, high school.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: O day.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: So I've bro was a big Lions fan. So I
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: was always locked in on free agency. Like now, like
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: being in the league is I go ship? Now you
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: really know what's going on and like it's interesting. It's scary,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: but yeah, I kind of like it's it's entertaining for sure.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 5: All Right, Has there anybody that's gotten the acts from
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 5: the Raiders?
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 4: We uh oh I saw Trent Brown. You guys dealt Trent.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we we cut three of our starting alignment. Damn
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: got Ritchie and we cut Trent no Way? Yeah fuck man.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if people are coming back like
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: some maybe.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 5: You guys got you guys got some big free agents
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 5: up too.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Bro, it's gonna be it's gonna be interesting. I
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: don't know. It's it's crazy.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: Bros do something every day. Yeah, like he's up, Nick
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: morro elly Yeah, Aglaura had a fucking amazing season. I
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: don't know what it's gonna have with Jonathan Hankins, my boy,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: big Hank. Yeah me, it's a free agent. I don't
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: know what they're go You know. Uh, it's interesting.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: Bro Mayak and Grudener in the lab.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: Dude, you know they're in the lab, bro may I
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: I know Mayok is in there like he's having like
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: eighteen hour days or something ridiculous.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: He seems like he just loves the ship.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: Dude.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I've had a conversation with him. He's like,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: it's my dream job. I worked the NFL that way.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: I did that.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: I just studied players twenty four to seven. They they
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: came with this opportunity, and now I really get to
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: do it. Like this is what I've always wanted to be.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: Like Boom, Now he's a fucking real NFL GM and
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: like that dude.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: Knows football like no other inside out, inside out. Brow
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: and Gruden's the same way. I love as Tate too.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, tape, you gotta watch the tape and fucking
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: he's so serious about everything. But I love Mayoc though,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: and Gruden that fucking brother dialed.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: Are you gonna see him next week? Oh yeah, I
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: see them all the time in the work. You know
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying, got this guy? Well come hey.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: Remember hey, remember something goes you know left you got them? Yeah,
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: you know you got well yeah growing up. You mentioned
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: playing ball in Texas? Yeah, oh yeah, what was it
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: like playing high school football in Texas? Were you were
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: you actually in it? Like where you where'd you actually
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: play at? Like what it is? So I played at
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: college Ohritage, we played Trinity play South like Carrol.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: Some of the best teams in the country. Bro.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: Like our our division my senior year was one of
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: the highest ranked like conferences in the country. Like there
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: was dudes, like I I was telling you on the
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: way here. Like we played played Cedar Hill in the
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: first round of the playoffs the Cowboys Stadium. They had
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: like fifteen to twenty Division one players. Like in my
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: school we were six A. So we're the highest of
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: the high ranking. So we of our school, like we
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: were the one school that didn't have crazy talent, because
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: a lot of those schools of South Lay Carroll's they
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: have like six thousand kids, like Allen's thirty minutes down
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: the road where Kyler Murray went. Yeah, oh, they have
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: like fucking it's like a college campus. It's unbelievable. So
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: like us, we were just below. We were just at
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: the limit where we had enough kids where we could
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: be six A. But once I left, we went down
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: like we lost a couple hundred kids and we went
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: down to five A. So like my last two years,
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: like high school, like we were bro. Every game was
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: a war, like in the environment, like we have fifteen
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: thousand in our in our high school and we have
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: big ass stadiums, Like our stadium was sick.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, so you're playing Texas football. We're playing real like
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: every every week. Bro.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: I played like there was a stretch during that season
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: we played like ten was ten games. In high school,
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: I played like six weeks in a row of Division
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: One Power five tackles. It was my first year playing
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: d n B. I was a linebacker my whole life
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: and just hit a girl spur and they're like I
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: was six or five and goofy and fucking awkward.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: They're like yeah, and we got new coaches and everything,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: and I'm like all.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: Right, like hey man, you run like a giraffe. You
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: cannot play linebacker anymore.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: Move them up.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: They're like, put them on the line. So I played
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: DM BRO I was playing played against Alabama. An Alabama kid,
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: fucking Connor Williams. He was a starting tackle for Coppell
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: and he's like he's a starting guard for the Cowboys.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: Now there's fucking every fucking week, bro, kids at a
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: big school, Texas Tech.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: It was like, this was my first year playing.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 4: I'm just trying to not in Missouri my thing, bro, Hey,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 4: not in Missouri.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like I was. I was able to do my thing.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: I was making I was, I was making plays. But
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: like it was real football, Like this ship was fucking life,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: like the parents are, bro. The tailgates were fucking insane.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: The whole parking lot. Everybody's at the game, bro, every
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: Friday night. It was like fucking party.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: Bro. It was nuts. Like I loved it. Oh, it
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: was unreal. Yeah, not Missouri.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: I'm just sitting here listening to him, like, man, it's like, damn,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 4: Missouri wasn't shit.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: You went to fuck in Nebraska, you have that's true. Yeah,
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: he went to Eastern Chigan. We literally had fifteen thousand,
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: twenty thousand other games maybe at college games.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 4: Did you see the shit going on with Nebraska? No
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 4: talking about I'm trying to not play ou.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 4: I think it's money. I'm not listening. Scott Frost and
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 4: the boy Yeah, Scott Frost and the Boys anytime anywhere,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: he said it. You know what I'm saying, anytime we
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 4: might lose. You know what I'm saying, the probability is
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 4: higher based on though we've been performing. But the boys,
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 4: they ain't backing down from Oklahoma. It's the suits. There's
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: some shit going on, you know what I mean.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: I'll bet you right now they lose by thirty.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: You're gonna give me a thirty points. Friend, you're gonna
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: give me thirty.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: Thirty points Nebraska verus OU thirty five, Give me thirty four,
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: give me thirty four board, Okay, thirty four relat twenty eight,
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: I'll do thirty a thirty Yeah, saw it here.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: That's gonna be bad. You see his sigh.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 4: No, I love him, No, dude, And it's gonna be
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be at Lincoln. But some's gonna
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 4: get figured out. Somebody from the OU side leak something
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 4: because they're not getting their way in some negotiation. You
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Like it's it's involved inside four
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 4: walls that have nothing to do with the guys on
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 4: the field, nothing to do with the coaches. Those boys
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 4: in Nebraska are ready to go anytime anywhere. Scott Frost said,
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 4: it and again you might get your ship pushed in,
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 4: but we ain't backing down.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. Wait, I have a question.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 5: Did you play with Malik?
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 4: Uh No, he he just got there when I left.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: But I know Malik. I know he's a He's an
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 4: awesome dude.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: That's that's my dude. Yeah.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 5: I get to watch him on uh I see him
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 5: on Instagram.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a grinder. Looks like a grinder out there
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 4: with that dude des all the handshit. You know what
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 4: I'm saying.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: Moli can fucking hit some bags.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: He said, fucking hits. He makes the drills look like.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: He was a hell of a player at Nebraska. He
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: was single digit, wasn't it. Yeah, he was number seven.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: You see a single digit the lineman with a fucking gut,
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: You're like, oh, he's fucking Yeah.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 4: He had some sauce too. First round, him and Randy
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 4: Gregory were on the same line as scrimmage.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: Randy was He was one of my favorite players, bro, Dude,
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: he had some sauce.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: I love his fucking table and he's he came back
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: this year and balled the funk out.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's had those off field issues. He's he's got
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 4: like nine lives. But he's like a fucking cat is.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 4: He's lucky, he is, and he's getting all those opportunities
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 4: because he's a stud I'm talking about genetics.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: Bro.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 4: He he housed one in Nebraska and it looked like
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 4: he belonged to the ball in his hand.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 5: I forget who they were playing, but I remember watching
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 5: them all like this.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, bro, fucking gliding Bro. Yeah, drop back and pick
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: all the time. Bro. I love watching him. Dude, he
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: was a monster. Who did you play with that? Eastern Michigan?
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: We didn't have any guys get draft in my year
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: besides me, but yeah, I have a bunch of my guys.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: You go to any good bowl games? Did you go
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: to a bowl game? Yeah? Fuck yeah? Bro?
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: Like when I that was the thing, Like, you're fucking
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: fucking hater, Bro, what bowl games did you go to? Listen,
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you the story. Eastern we went to
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: what bowl games? Bahamas ball and went to the fucking
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: Chamellia ball.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: What's that? Alabama? Baby?
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 5: You said, Chlamenia ball flat ball?
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah? It was Uh, it was great. No, but we've yeah, Bro,
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: it's a great, great venue.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 4: The Bahama Bowl, like I was gonna he was just
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 4: gonna eat like he hit me with that one.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Always say that Atlanta, so
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: you have to be in. It was awesome. It's a
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: great time. Human that now you bring up a good point.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: I've been to Atlantis. It's a great time. We had
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: a fucking blast. I was a freshman. I was fucking partying,
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: having a fucking ball.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: We were wild. Oh my boys, we were fucking We
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: didn't care. It was so much fun. But yeah, it
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: was Uh.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: It was great. Bro.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: I went to Eastern. We were one and eleven my
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: red shirt year. When I read shirted it, I was
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: like two hundred ten pounds. When I got there, I
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: fucking looked like a I don't even know. I was
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: just looking like a child, a baby deer. And I
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: fucking I ended up, you know, doing my thing, and
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: my recruiting class came in, the next one came in,
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: and we fucking we changed the whole thing. My coach,
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: coach Creighton, big shadow of coach Creighton, he changed the
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: whole program. Bro. We went there. We were the worst.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: We were the laughing stock, laughing stock of Division one.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: Football.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: We were ranked one twenty eight. I think that's how
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: many D one teams are. We were ranked one twenty
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: eight when I got there, the worst of the worst,
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: and we went there bro We went to fucking two
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: bowl games one year. We didn't make it, were one
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: game off, but like we really changed that shit around
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: and competed.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: Like I guess everybody was so sick.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: You learned something every day. I thought you were in AIA. Okay,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: let's relax. Run the mac, baby. What do you know
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: about Max?
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: Hey, I'll tell you what I enjoy it. I enjoy
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: We'll show ever play anywhere.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: Were playing fucking Tuesday night and fucking in ball at
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: ball stay in Lorraine in fucking November, freezing.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 4: I do enjoy the Max social media, the big cat Max.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 4: Hilarious Max. It's hilarious big time. So Max, Max is
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 4: the one I always talk about when I say, like,
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 4: when I got to the Raiders, there's a teammate that says, like, oh,
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 4: busting with the boys. Who knew of busting with the
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 4: boys When I got there, Max was the first player
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 4: to You're like, oh, fuck yeah, Like you know, other
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 4: guys know about it, other pro other pro guys know about.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 5: It and Max Max is the one. Max is the
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 5: one I always refer to.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, bro, yeah, oh yeah, I remember that ship always.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I watched I watched the show before I
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: even knew you and ship. So they saw us we
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: signed Will Compton. I'm like, that's fucking us busting with
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: the boys. Well I'm like, no, fucking let's go through
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: what I saw. I'm like, oh, I gotta say something.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 5: I had to get your hat. I had to get
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 5: a lot of guys in the.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: Whole team out of having them. But yeah, yeah, bro,
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: no it's cool.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: You still rock the head.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen it in a while. Nah, not all
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: the time. I really don't wear it much, but I
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: would they, Bro, I got like a hundred of these.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: They give us this this company shoutout residency.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: You know, they're no.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: Free shoutouts to companies, but big shoutout, you know. But
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: they fucking they give me hats on hats and this
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: every color, just the LV, just the LV, Bro, And
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: I'm a snapbag guy.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: You enjoy living out in Vegas? I love it, Bro,
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: I love it like it's pretty out there right, Hell yeah,
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: it's like literally, Vegas is a bowl. Like it's literally
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: there's Vegas. You got Henderson, Summerland. Then it's just surrounded
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: by fucking desert. But everything's right there. Like everyone thinks, Okay, Vegas,
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: it's the fucking strip and it's just going on twenty
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: four seven. But that's only the strip, like that direct
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: little spot. But I live twenty minutes away. I'm in Henderson,
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: a quiet ass old gated community. I don't hear anything.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: It's like I have a homie like feel. Like in California,
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: it was the opposite. Oh look in a tiny apartment
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: with my fucking dogs and me and my girls stuff,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: and we hated it. And like now we have have
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: a house, we got a pool. You know, we fucking
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: just relaxed, like it's it's really cool. Soday.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: He's talking about his situation.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, were you ever in the extended Say
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 5: what do you mean?
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: I stayed when I was getting ready for my pro
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: day and even after my pro day, I was in
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: a fucking extended state in uh ann Arbor in Michigan.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: Have you been in Alamedas? No, I would love to have.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: Compared to you always talk about it. Yeah, you guys
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: stand there.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 4: I would walk in and I would have to get
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 4: checked by the skin doctor because I'd have all these
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 4: bites on my fucking body.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: Literally bad bucks.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, dog, I'd come.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 4: Home, there'd be a little bit of like uh, some
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 4: eas essential meno assides, like a little bit of powder
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 4: like dust on the table, and I'd come in there
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 4: just be a frenzy of ants. Dude, I had to
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 4: move rooms, no situ which would happened.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, rough, But I like the one that people we're.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 5: Talking rough just smelled like weed the whole time. Dude,
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 5: Oh alla meat.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: It was fucking yeah. I don't even know how to
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: explain it. It's like the Cecil Hotel.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: Yes, hey, serial killers, everybody's going through.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 5: That, cigarettes, homeless people and sex.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: Dude. But hey, shout out all of meat ext big shot.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 4: God, But that was a grind. I had to perseverere
• 1:22:32
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  Speaker 2: Guys?
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  Speaker 7: Drinking before games on the Ryan Mascillo podcast, and he
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 7: said there was a time when he played a game
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 7: with a guy that was drunk in the huddle who
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 7: ended up going for like two hundred yards that game.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: And uh and and.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 7: There's a bunch of other quotes that they pulled up to,
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 7: like Clinton Port has said that he and Santana Moss
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 7: would take shots a Hennessy pregame to boost adrenaline.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 7: Josh Gordon said he would take a couple of shots
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 7: of Grand Marnier and take the biggest bong rip he
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 7: could like like.
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  Speaker 2: Bro, Like, I don't It's Josh Gordon, So yeah, you
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: would assume.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: He's taking Hennessy shots a normal thing. I had people
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: out of Eastern and they were fucking before the game
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: before it. Cos pulled us up. Had a couple of
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: my boys were running the fucking they'll run in the shower,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: smack the shop and they're like fucking ready to go.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: I never did that. I don't know.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: It kind of freaks me out, like yeah, I never
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: be in my fucking mind. Yeah yeah, yeah, I don't.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: Too many checks going on. Then I got to hit
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: with hey, check it empty?
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: What aways like I don't know if I fucking take
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: a shot for a game doing some crazy shit.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 4: But yeah, the Clint Port of Santana Moss sayings true
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 4: because teammates of Washington would say them in Santana like
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 4: they had all rip shots of Hennessy before a game.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: Whatever.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean yeah, at least three, that's right. Yeah,
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 4: I've heard stuff like that.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: I heard him.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 4: I heard Antonio Brown would show up like right at
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 4: game time, like when he was on the Steelers.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he didn't really Yeah, yeah it was yeah,
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: he was gone for the season.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: But yeah, that was that was wrong.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I know that Santana like all like yeah,
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 4: people take hitty to the head. I'm more like, you know,
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 4: pass a doggie bag around a pre workout type of guy.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, what was it like
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: playing against Taylor? It was it was a tough game. God. Yeah,
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: Now as you bring that.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: Up, you know, I think, what did I offer you
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: every sack that you got? What was it a few
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: hundred dollars?
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: You probably probably shouldn't say that, you know, running bounding program,
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: We're not we're not in college anymore.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 4: But this was sacks on Taylor wasn't like hurt somebody,
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 4: but yeah, it was tough, bro, Like I don't know,
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 4: I felt like, you know how the Titans are.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: They literally just pound the ball, pound the ball, and
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: then they hite you with play action, so you're not
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: really getting a good feel of, you know, as a
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: d M getting off the ball and like because you
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: know most of the time they're running that ball, but
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: the one time you kind of get off slow because
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: you think it's a run, they're fucking launching that bitch
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: down field of AJ.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: So like I already knew, like it was tough.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: Taylor's good too, So Taylor is different ship, And like
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: when you know you're protected in that way when you
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: got to play action, you know it helps your line.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: And I and I was, Taylor, I want to play
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: you again. I do, And I think it's going to
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: be it is and I'm I'm gonna take up Will
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: on that bet. And I think Taylor's a Pisa big
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: shots of Taylor.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I remember walking up the Max that week,
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 4: I like, hey, I need you to get sacks on
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 4: the ball. Way, like, I'll give you five hundred per bro,
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 4: but you gotta get sacks.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: On the boy. Uh but yeah it did.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 5: It didn't work out the way we thought it would.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: We were sick.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 5: See what happened was first played the game. I've talked
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 5: about it before.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 4: I'm fucking sitting on the bench because Saffold almost put
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 4: me there, but it wasn't.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: It didn't go the way we thought it would. Yeah,
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: he's a horse, he's a huge bro.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: The whole old line.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 4: As fu Oh yeah, the boys got a nice whole line.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 4: Shout out the boys, man. But and one more thing
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 4: on the stitch with the with the with the Washington
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 4: football team. As I just thought of this, there was
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 4: somebody I won't say names, but a safety that played
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 4: on Washington who at halftime would go into the bathroom
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 4: stall with basically, uh what do they call the I'm
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 4: jhonna blank right now, the fishing boxes tackle box with
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 4: like a tackle box of you know stuff. The solves
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 4: it at halftime, but people knew that this guy was
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 4: doing it. I'm not gonna say, you know, I'm not
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 4: gonna you know, be for the boys.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: People probably figure it out, but yeah it's normal.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you see you see you see some
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: ship man.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: What in my two years I've seen some of the
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: crazy ship I've ever seen in my life.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 4: What's the craziest thing you've seen in your two years?
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 4: I have a cap talking to fucking well, you know
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 4: names or anything like that. It's just like, yeah, I
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 4: don't want you say names because we like we gotta
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 4: protect the boys.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: Of course, but like, yeah, just the environment is not
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: what I expected. I did not feel like there would
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: be so many people as wild as myself when I
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: first came in the league.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: I thought I was by myself. Get after it, dude.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 4: I would come in, I would come in on a
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 4: Saturday travel day days you travel, and there would be
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 4: a couple of dudes sleeping in their lockers because they
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 4: went out hard in DC the night before on a
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 4: Friday night. Yeah, I've seen people just drunk and have
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 4: to go at the facility.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: The crazy shit I've seen for me is like we
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: play on a Sunday and I've seen guys go out
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: on Friday Friday nights like four am and drinking strip
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: clubs shit like that.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, what the dudes get after it? Yeah,
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: they get after it.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 4: I mean there's there's the stereotypical life that people try
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 4: to imagine, like it's out there. Sometimes it's a fucking wildlife.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: Do to last or is it guys who don't stick
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: around long?
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: No, guys said, I'm referring to with that shit or
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: like not even on the team anymore.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and the two I'm thinking the two I
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 4: was thinking of that slept at the lockers, like, yeah,
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 4: they weren't.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: It didn't last long, like maybe a year or two,
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: But there are guys who are ballers who are fucking
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: crazy too. They'll do some wild ship like there's some
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: pro bowlers who fucking get after it too, like oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, there's some guys that
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: just know how to handle like I don't know, you're
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: just surprised. They just have They just have the gift. Yeah,
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: Like you would never expect in a million years that
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: they're like they party like that or anything like that.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: They just from there.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 4: I mean, Ocho Sink was in a partier, but it's
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 4: very well documented that he just ate McDonald's every day.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 4: I mean, some guys can just do shit that makes
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 4: zero sense, no crazy, no, Like one of my boys
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 4: would come in and he'd be like have a bag
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 4: of fast food or something right in evening a meeting,
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And it's just like, yo,
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 4: what the fuck we got practice?
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: If I hate that, like i'd had the same time.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 4: Hey, we had to strength coach at Nebraska Willie Jones.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 4: I think he's a strength coach at Illinois now, but
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 4: for he got like initiated into the strength staff with
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 4: Dallson and them, and they pushed a prowler, I think
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 4: a sled like maybe a thousand yards and they had
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 4: to put their body weight on the sled and push
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 4: it a thousand yards.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: So you pushing how.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 4: Much do you weigh seventy on a prowler and you'd
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 4: have to push it a thousand yards or it was
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 4: something crazy like that. But they said Willy was shaking
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 4: and fucking hurting so bad he had to go puke.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 4: And while he was in the stall, he started shitting himself.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: Shit just started running down his leg. Oh my god,
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: I'm seen. We had a kid at Eastern Bro. We
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: we did shit similar to that. When we would have
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: our fucking stadium days. Bro, we had like twenty four
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: of them or twenty two or whatever. It's a crazy
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: number running all the way up the stadium. You fucking
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: jogged down and you're fucking hitting it, and we'd have overtime,
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: so we're already fucking dead.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: Go overtime blah blah blah, and we're like.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: No, you would have to pick up whoever is fucking you,
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: figure out who you team up was, you have a buddy,
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: and you have to throw them on your fucking back
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: and run up the stadium. Ye back down, bro, it
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: was fucking shit getting speed wobbles like the There would
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: be guys like it's your group, so you got ten guys.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: There'll be one fucking dude who's like a running back
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: and he'll get stuck with a fucking moose, three hundred.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 2: Twenty pound guy and that's the car.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, I'm I'm not doing that because I'll
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: drop your fat ass down the whole stadium like it's crazy,
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: like we were, Oh my gosh, I had a roommate.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: I had a roommate, Alfonso, and he faked like passing out.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: He faked the cramp because we it got to you
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: were gas after this.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 4: Huge uh uh what do they call it? County fair?
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 4: Like workout one of those county fair workouts where you
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 4: got like eight stations, you're doing all these drills with
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 4: vest On, push your prowlers, doing the most bro, and
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 4: you're destroyed at the end. And he's like, all right,
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 4: not overtime. But it was like, you know, it was
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 4: basically that's what it was. We're gonna do extra get
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 4: on the line. We're gonna do jingle jangles where you
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 4: just run certain ladders like five back, ten back, or
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 4: ten back, fifteen back, ten back, twenty back, shit like that,
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 4: and you don't know when you're gonna stop.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: It's like all right on the line jingle jingles.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 4: And my roommate Fonso, he just he screamed with his
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 4: high pitched voice, ah, and just literally acted like he
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 4: just fainted and passed out.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: And they literally they sprayed him down like right there with.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 4: The cooler water and they had to pick him up,
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 4: and he got picked up by like four people and
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 4: they went and just dropped him in the cold tub.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 4: They just talked. They talked up as like a full
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 4: body cramp. No, but we were freshmen, like it was
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 4: our first hard work out.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: We were freshmen, bro, your first couple of weeks in
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: college of the fucking they.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: Try and break you.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: We had a kid when I was my sophomore year.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: There was a kid that shipped himself in the meeting.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: He was so tired and exhausted in the meeting. It
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: was an whole liveman, and this dude was dying. Bro,
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: he was so exhausted. We had meetings after He's literally
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: crawling into the meeting room and he got up out
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: of his chair after he was done at the meeting,
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: and there was literally a ship streak in his chair. Bro.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: Fucking it was. It was fucked up. Bro.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 4: Did you see some ship when you're in college man,
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 4: and you think that wife, and then when you're on
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 4: the other side of it, you're like, you know, how
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 4: ridiculous is college?
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: What it was? Fucking oh my god the first couple
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: of weeks or just unbelievable.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, thanks for coming on, bro, Max Crosby Busting
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