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- 0:00Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
- 0:07Speaker 2: Diddy no bond after evidence comes out in court about
- 0:11Speaker 2: freak offs basically sex abuse sessions that last for days
- 0:17Speaker 2: and days, leaving the victims needing IV drips. I, Nancy Grace,
- 0:25Speaker 2: this is Crime Stories.
- 0:26Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us.
- 0:28Speaker 3: Poems allegedly planned and control the sex performances, which he called.
- 0:33Speaker 4: Freak off, freak offs, freak offs, freak offs, freakoffs.
- 0:40Speaker 5: Sean Puffy Combs aka Diddy aka P Diddy, I'll see
- 0:46Speaker 5: you in court, Sean Puffy Combs spending the night behind
- 0:51Speaker 5: bars and whining incessantly through his lawyers.
- 0:56Speaker 1: But as we go.
- 0:58Speaker 2: To air right now, we are analyzing evidence that has
- 1:03Speaker 2: come out in court. You know what, after the judge
- 1:07Speaker 2: heard this, he had a snowball's chance in hubl of
- 1:12Speaker 2: getting bond.
- 1:13Speaker 1: I mean you gotta know this.
- 1:14Speaker 2: All the judges, they all have lunch together in a
- 1:17Speaker 2: big room sometimes the law library. Their court clerks are
- 1:21Speaker 2: in there. They see each other day in day out.
- 1:24Speaker 6: How is this.
- 1:25Speaker 1: Judge gonna look at the other judges in the ie
- 1:27Speaker 1: and go, yeah, I gave Diddy a bond.
- 1:30Speaker 2: That was me in there because I don't have a
- 1:33Speaker 2: spine now listen to this.
- 1:34Speaker 1: This is what I learned in court.
- 1:36Speaker 2: Now, we've all seen the Cassie Ventira video of her
- 1:41Speaker 2: running away from Sean Combs in public in a hotel corridor.
- 1:47Speaker 2: He comes out practically button naked, wearing nothing but a towel.
- 1:51Speaker 1: He doesn't care, that doesn't bother him, So.
- 1:56Speaker 2: Entitled chases her down and beats the h el out
- 2:01Speaker 2: of her, kicking her, kicking her, kicking or dragging her.
- 2:07Speaker 1: Listen to this.
- 2:09Speaker 2: We have gotten a hold of through prosecutors texts that
- 2:14Speaker 2: he immediately sends her. Listen to this to Cassie, call me,
- 2:20Speaker 2: the cops are here. I got six kids, yo, please
- 2:23Speaker 2: call I'm surrounded. You're gonna abandon me all alone. You're
- 2:29Speaker 2: gonna abandon me all alone.
- 2:32Speaker 1: This as we are learning that.
- 2:34Speaker 2: Cassie Ventura was running from a freak off. Yeah, there
- 2:41Speaker 2: was a sex worker in the room with Diddy, and
- 2:43Speaker 2: I guarantee he was trying to film it, the sex
- 2:46Speaker 2: worker forcing Cassie to have sex. The defendant, according to
- 2:51Speaker 2: prosecutor Emily Johnson, knew he had done something that could
- 2:55Speaker 2: elicit police response.
- 2:58Speaker 1: Well, that's a nice way of saying and busted.
- 3:01Speaker 2: Okay, So She texts back, saying she still had horrible
- 3:06Speaker 2: bruising from the assault. Says I'm not a rag doll. Now,
- 3:13Speaker 2: I want to point out that they are.
- 3:15Speaker 1: Now.
- 3:15Speaker 2: The defense attorney desperate is now saying Cassie Ventura was
- 3:20Speaker 2: running away.
- 3:22Speaker 1: Because she was jealous.
- 3:25Speaker 2: She was jealous because she looked at Combs's phone and
- 3:29Speaker 2: saw he texted another woman. Right, She's so jealous. She
- 3:33Speaker 2: runs out barefoot, trying to get away from him and
- 3:38Speaker 2: the sex worker that was still in the room.
- 3:40Speaker 1: Let's just start with that.
- 3:42Speaker 2: Okay, what judge, and he's right his or her right
- 3:46Speaker 2: mind can go sit down to his tuna fish sandwich
- 3:49Speaker 2: and eat lunch with the other judges looking at him.
- 3:53Speaker 1: Going, yeah, we know what you did. You let this
- 3:57Speaker 1: a hole out on bond. Listen to this.
- 4:00Speaker 7: Shawn Combs is back inside the walls of Metropolitan Detention
- 4:03Speaker 7: Center after US District Judge Andrew Carter Junior denied Comb's
- 4:07Speaker 7: appeal of his remand Magic Judge Robin F. Tronowski initially
- 4:11Speaker 7: denied the rappers bail Tuesday, saying that Combs was a danger. Quote,
- 4:15Speaker 7: I don't know that you can trust yourself not to
- 4:17Speaker 7: harm people. The defense proposed that Combs live at home
- 4:21Speaker 7: alone in Florida, monitored by a twenty four to seven
- 4:23Speaker 7: security team. Combs offered to give up any access to
- 4:26Speaker 7: his cell phone or Internet. In the end, Judge Carter
- 4:29Speaker 7: Junior agreed with Judge Tronowski that quote, there is no
- 4:33Speaker 7: condition or combination of conditions to ensure he will not
- 4:36Speaker 7: obstruct justice or tamper with witnesses.
- 4:38Speaker 2: Coe's desperate not to spend another night behind bars with
- 4:43Speaker 2: me an all star panel.
- 4:44Speaker 1: To makes sense of what we are learning. But now hear.
- 4:48Speaker 8: This energy and all this might have been a full
- 4:50Speaker 8: confidence of a lawyers. And I expect a long.
- 4:54Speaker 7: Battle with a good result for mister Colms.
- 4:56Speaker 1: Do you think you'll be really if you I'm going to.
- 4:58Speaker 8: Fight like hell to get released, and he should be
- 5:01Speaker 8: released with all that he's done and coming here voluntarily.
- 5:04Speaker 8: And guys, I'm going to cut it short because they
- 5:05Speaker 8: have to go in all right, So thank you all
- 5:07Speaker 8: very much, and well keep using.
- 5:12Speaker 2: That defense lawyers making his money Agnafello very wildly. He
- 5:18Speaker 2: just represented Rnier in the cult case, also a forced
- 5:25Speaker 2: sex case that unfolded with a sex cult where people
- 5:29Speaker 2: were actually branding themselves.
- 5:31Speaker 1: Okay, that's a whole another can of worms.
- 5:34Speaker 2: But there he is out in front of the courthouse
- 5:35Speaker 2: steps talking about the fight he's got a boy.
- 5:38Speaker 1: Does he have a fight again with me in All
- 5:39Speaker 1: star panel? But first I want to go to veteran trial.
- 5:42Speaker 2: Lawyer Tim Jansen, also a former federal prosecutor and porter
- 5:47Speaker 2: here and legal analysts for the Tallahassee Democrat. Tim, that
- 5:51Speaker 2: was quite a as they call it, bail package the
- 5:56Speaker 2: defense put up for the judge, begging, begging, please please, please, judge.
- 6:01Speaker 1: Don't make me go to jail.
- 6:03Speaker 9: Don't.
- 6:03Speaker 2: Maybe it's been another at night eating a bad sandwich.
- 6:08Speaker 2: Fifty million dollars and did he I promise not to
- 6:12Speaker 2: contact another woman?
- 6:14Speaker 1: Okay? Right? Tell me what went wrong?
- 6:17Speaker 10: Well?
- 6:18Speaker 11: I felt dirty hearing the proposed bond conditions. Fifty million dollars,
- 6:25Speaker 11: go to go home. The judges was never going to
- 6:29Speaker 11: give bond. The violence you saw in that video in
- 6:32Speaker 11: the elevator. He should have been arrested in charge with
- 6:36Speaker 11: that offense. The fact that he contacted and was obstructing justice,
- 6:40Speaker 11: the fact that he showed up or came back to
- 6:43Speaker 11: not flee from these charges, means nothing. I mean, you
- 6:47Speaker 11: look at the amount of money they offered for bond.
- 6:50Speaker 11: They knew he wasn't getting bond. He's looking at fifteen
- 6:53Speaker 11: years to life in prison. He's a danger to himself,
- 6:57Speaker 11: he's a danger to the community. And the times outlined
- 7:00Speaker 11: in this indictment are horrendous.
- 7:03Speaker 1: Jensen.
- 7:04Speaker 2: I know that you know what you're talking about, former
- 7:08Speaker 2: federal prosecutor. That's not easy. I was effaired for three years.
- 7:12Speaker 2: I know the way Feds work. But I can tell
- 7:15Speaker 2: you something you don't want to get out there and
- 7:17Speaker 2: say that again that Combs is a danger to himself.
- 7:21Speaker 1: Combs is not going to hurt himself.
- 7:22Speaker 2: What Combs is going to do is try to flee
- 7:25Speaker 2: somewhere like Paris where they're hiding out Roman Polanski and
- 7:29Speaker 2: others and record from there, just like Kanye. Okay, that's
- 7:33Speaker 2: what Comb's is gonna do. He's not gonna hurt one
- 7:36Speaker 2: hair on his head. That's not happening.
- 7:40Speaker 1: But I agree with you. I didn't feel dirty.
- 7:43Speaker 2: I felt crazy mad when I heard about a fifty
- 7:47Speaker 2: million dollars bond package.
- 7:49Speaker 1: And you know a lot of judges, Jensen.
- 7:51Speaker 2: You know there are a lot of judges that would
- 7:53Speaker 2: have done that if nobody was watching, but not this judge.
- 7:57Speaker 11: The other thing you have to look at. They offered
- 7:59Speaker 11: not only his passport, the passports of all of his
- 8:02Speaker 11: family members because everyone knows he's going to flee and
- 8:06Speaker 11: take his family with him. That was another little tip
- 8:09Speaker 11: that they gill.
- 8:10Speaker 2: You know, if he cared so much about his family,
- 8:13Speaker 2: he would be with them and not at Freekrofs. You
- 8:16Speaker 2: know what a if I were a drinker, I have
- 8:19Speaker 2: a big fat drink right now based on what you
- 8:22Speaker 2: just said, take his family with him, my rear end
- 8:26Speaker 2: joining me, Dr Bethany Marshall. Usually I don't go to
- 8:29Speaker 2: you this early in the game, Dr.
- 8:31Speaker 1: Bethany, but really cared about his family.
- 8:38Speaker 2: You know what, if he cared about his family, he
- 8:42Speaker 2: would be living with his family or having a joint.
- 8:47Speaker 1: Custody with his children if it didn't work out, What
- 8:50Speaker 1: the right for the mother? That did not happen? No family, man,
- 8:56Speaker 1: no family. Yeah, they all have to go to work,
- 8:58Speaker 1: They have to go out of town.
- 9:00Speaker 2: Is going to be conducting days on end, a freak
- 9:03Speaker 2: off where the women have to go hide out for
- 9:07Speaker 2: days on end so their bruises can heal.
- 9:12Speaker 1: Half of them have.
- 9:13Speaker 2: To take ivy drugs. At ivy fluids, after they're covered in.
- 9:18Speaker 1: Bruises, they've been drugged. They don't know what was happening.
- 9:21Speaker 2: That is not a familyman, Dr Bethany Nancy.
- 9:25Speaker 10: P Diddy aka Love is no family man. Let me
- 9:29Speaker 10: tell you. He is self centered, vain, sociopathic, petty, vindictive, callous, cold, immature,
- 9:39Speaker 10: and he leveraged all of these traits not into building
- 9:43Speaker 10: a better family and having loving relationships with them. He
- 9:46Speaker 10: leveraged these traits into an empire so that he could
- 9:50Speaker 10: control other people. Nancy, you were mentioning, you know, fleeing
- 9:54Speaker 10: to another country. P Diddy is so arrogant, so self assured,
- 10:00Speaker 10: so unaware of potential negative consequences that when both of
- 10:04Speaker 10: his mansions were raided, he didn't leave the country. He
- 10:07Speaker 10: thought he could manipulate law enforcement, just like he manipulated
- 10:11Speaker 10: his victims. And now he's trying to manipulate through his attorney.
- 10:15Speaker 10: He's going to be in for a rude show, Nancy,
- 10:17Speaker 10: when he's behind bars. One thousand bottles of lubricant is
- 10:23Speaker 10: never going to allow him to slip out of this one.
- 10:25Speaker 2: Lynn Shaw is with me right now. Anybody on the panel. R.
- 10:30Speaker 2: Brandt is with us. Sidney Sumner, Angelica Martinez, Servina Lynn
- 10:36Speaker 2: Shaw is joining me founder executive director Linn's Warriors, devoted
- 10:41Speaker 2: to stopping sex trafficking. You know why I'm so angry
- 10:46Speaker 2: right now? And people often say, why don't you smile
- 10:49Speaker 2: on TV? Are they crazy?
- 10:53Speaker 1: You know?
- 10:54Speaker 2: I'm so angry right now, Lynn, I'm angry because I
- 10:58Speaker 2: have dealt very closely and hey, everybody, look around.
- 11:03Speaker 1: One out of four women, women you.
- 11:05Speaker 2: May never suspect, have been molested, raped or sex assaulted,
- 11:11Speaker 2: they have one in four at the least.
- 11:15Speaker 1: That's a conservative number.
- 11:17Speaker 2: I have dealt with so many girls and women that
- 11:21Speaker 2: are never the same.
- 11:22Speaker 1: Now, let's get real. We're talking about a free cough
- 11:24Speaker 1: like it's kind of funny, it's not.
- 11:26Speaker 2: Imagine a woman who is drugged in her drink. She
- 11:31Speaker 2: thinks she's going to a nice party, right, She's excited.
- 11:35Speaker 2: Shawn Combs wants to invite her to a party with
- 11:38Speaker 2: all these important, fancy people and maybe even given her
- 11:41Speaker 2: a nice, beautiful outfit, designer clothes to wear. She's never
- 11:45Speaker 2: seen anything like it in her life. This party where
- 11:48Speaker 2: there's cavia or there's champagne, there's limos, there's fur diamonds,
- 11:53Speaker 2: you name it, and she's there. She's at the party,
- 12:00Speaker 2: rubbing elbows with all these hip hop music stars you
- 12:05Speaker 2: name it. Maybe j Lo's there, maybe Fifties there, I
- 12:11Speaker 2: don't know, maybe Justin Bieber's there. Maybe Ashen Kitchener's there.
- 12:17Speaker 1: And there she is.
- 12:19Speaker 2: Okay, but what happens after the party? All this list
- 12:23Speaker 2: may not know about that.
- 12:25Speaker 1: Neither does she because she's drugged.
- 12:28Speaker 2: What do you think those lights and those video cameras
- 12:33Speaker 2: were four? You know how awful it is for a
- 12:37Speaker 2: woman to be raped, what she lives through the rest
- 12:40Speaker 2: of her life, and then to find out that it
- 12:46Speaker 2: was on video and you were posed in positions and
- 12:50Speaker 2: people were videoing parts of your body and your face
- 12:55Speaker 2: while you're getting raped in.
- 12:58Speaker 1: All sorts of positions.
- 13:01Speaker 2: That is what we're talking about, Lynn, and not just
- 13:05Speaker 2: one woman, many women.
- 13:07Speaker 1: Those are the allegations.
- 13:09Speaker 10: You know, Nancy, I want to start with I wonder
- 13:10Speaker 10: what is mama thinks about all of this? And he's
- 13:13Speaker 10: also a father of daughters. I had to put my
- 13:16Speaker 10: glasses on today because I can't see straight. I kid
- 13:19Speaker 10: you not about this whole scenario.
- 13:22Speaker 1: We work with.
- 13:24Speaker 10: Victims day in and day out. Of rape, sex trafficking,
- 13:28Speaker 10: sexual exploitation, online exploitation. This case in the last two
- 13:33Speaker 10: days has made.
- 13:34Speaker 1: Me so sick.
- 13:35Speaker 10: I had to put a yellow blouse on today to
- 13:37Speaker 10: tell myself, you know what, Sunshine, perhaps we're going to
- 13:41Speaker 10: have justice here. So many women and girls are looking
- 13:46Speaker 10: at this case and wondering we are not talking enough
- 13:49Speaker 10: about not only sex workers, prostitutes as in the indictment,
- 13:54Speaker 10: regular girls, naive underage even and there were mentions of
- 13:58Speaker 10: boys and young men as well. What this does to them?
- 14:01Speaker 10: They have post traumatic stress disorder. How this has ruined
- 14:05Speaker 10: I'm sick from It's going to be countless lives have
- 14:07Speaker 10: been ruined from this, the toll on their bodies, the
- 14:11Speaker 10: toll on their minds. What's going on right now?
- 14:15Speaker 1: This is despicable.
- 14:16Speaker 10: I feel dirty and I work in this business every
- 14:20Speaker 10: single day. And why was this allowed to go on
- 14:23Speaker 10: for four decades now that we know about, since the
- 14:26Speaker 10: early nineties. And all the people around him did nothing
- 14:30Speaker 10: because they sold out.
- 14:31Speaker 1: For a dollar.
- 14:32Speaker 10: And I leave you with who is Christina Korum his
- 14:36Speaker 10: chief of staff, a woman who started with him around
- 14:39Speaker 10: twenty thirteen, his right hand Those are his words. She
- 14:43Speaker 10: knew all of this, there is always a woman involved
- 14:46Speaker 10: with sex trafficking rings and all of these criminal operations
- 14:49Speaker 10: to act as the big sister, the mother for all
- 14:52Speaker 10: these vulnerable girls and young women. And you know what,
- 14:55Speaker 10: it is disgusting and I've been made sick from all
- 14:57Speaker 10: of this. Let us put the focus now on vic
- 15:00Speaker 10: dums and survivors and keep him behind bars.
- 15:08Speaker 12: Music mogul and rap stars Sean Ditty Combs hit with
- 15:12Speaker 12: lawsuit after lawsuit after lawsuit, but attorneys claim no matter
- 15:18Speaker 12: how many suits are filed, Combs is innocent.
- 15:24Speaker 2: Innocent, Okay is getting paid plenty of money to say that,
- 15:27Speaker 2: but the defense attorney is completely deluded. He is even
- 15:32Speaker 2: claiming that Combs, Shawn Combs Diddy has had to go
- 15:39Speaker 2: into therapy because of the allegations made against him. Shawn
- 15:47Speaker 2: Comes is now the victim listen.
- 15:50Speaker 13: For bail appeal hearing. Agnifilo submits an amended bail package,
- 15:54Speaker 13: Combs agrees to have no communication with women outside of
- 15:57Speaker 13: family members and the mothers of his children, to have
- 16:00Speaker 13: no contact with known grand jury witnesses referring to victim
- 16:04Speaker 13: ie Cassandra Ventura, to use a private intelligence agency to
- 16:08Speaker 13: monitor In twenty four to seven stage intelligence will ensure
- 16:12Speaker 13: he has no cell phone or internet access, administer weekly
- 16:15Speaker 13: drug tests, and turn over a daily visitor's log.
- 16:19Speaker 1: Are they crazy with me?
- 16:21Speaker 2: Is IRV Brandt sate former Senior Inspector US Marshall Service.
- 16:25Speaker 2: Those are the guys that go all around the world
- 16:28Speaker 2: to bring back felons for trial or that have absconded.
- 16:33Speaker 1: Author of a whole series.
- 16:35Speaker 2: Of books about Solo, Last One, Forever, Solo, Night of
- 16:39Speaker 2: the Dragon. Hey, IRV, really, they're going to have the
- 16:43Speaker 2: same security guards protect Diddy that would take these women
- 16:50Speaker 2: to hide out so they could wait till their bruises
- 16:52Speaker 2: healed before they went into public. The same ones that
- 16:55Speaker 2: got sex workers from all over the world the country
- 16:58Speaker 2: to come in and rape women that had been drugged
- 17:00Speaker 2: on video. That those guys, and they're also going to
- 17:04Speaker 2: perform weekly urine tests. You want to tell me they
- 17:07Speaker 2: can't go take a leak in a cup and put
- 17:09Speaker 2: the name Sean Combs on it.
- 17:11Speaker 1: Really? Are they insane? Have you ever heard anything like
- 17:15Speaker 1: this bond package?
- 17:16Speaker 9: I have not, Nancy, And it's not surprising that the
- 17:20Speaker 9: defense was doing everything they could to convince the judge
- 17:24Speaker 9: because the burden shifted from the prosecution to the defense
- 17:29Speaker 9: because of the nature of the charges and how much
- 17:32Speaker 9: time that he was facing. So it's obvious that the
- 17:35Speaker 9: defense was just coming up with anything that they could
- 17:39Speaker 9: think of, any sorts of conditions that might convince the
- 17:45Speaker 9: judge to release them on bond, and it just didn't work.
- 17:48Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if you've ever been in
- 17:50Speaker 1: court when this happens.
- 17:51Speaker 2: Tim Jansen, former fed now defense attorney, But I always
- 17:56Speaker 2: hated it when the judge would go back to his
- 17:59Speaker 2: chamber or her chambers to think. I'm like, hey, after
- 18:03Speaker 2: all we just put up, you can't give me the
- 18:04Speaker 2: decision right now?
- 18:06Speaker 1: What's wrong?
- 18:07Speaker 2: There was one one case and this guy turned out
- 18:09Speaker 2: to be a future co defendant of AJ Simpson's Charles
- 18:13Speaker 2: Erlick aka Charlie Tuna, on a drug trafficking case.
- 18:17Speaker 1: I'll never forget the judge, who.
- 18:19Speaker 2: I liked up till that moment, goes back to chambers
- 18:22Speaker 2: after I put on this giant case and we're trying
- 18:25Speaker 2: that were the defense was trying to get the evidence
- 18:27Speaker 2: thrown out.
- 18:28Speaker 1: It was a suppression.
- 18:29Speaker 2: Hearing goes back in chambers with the defense attorney. I'm like, oh,
- 18:36Speaker 2: my stars. So in my world, that's never a good
- 18:39Speaker 2: thing if the judge can't make a decision.
- 18:41Speaker 1: Just like that. Did you ever have a doubt that
- 18:44Speaker 1: the judge was gonna let did he go?
- 18:46Speaker 6: Well?
- 18:46Speaker 11: No, But I will tell you what the judges do.
- 18:49Speaker 11: They brought the pre trial officer back there to determine
- 18:53Speaker 11: if they felt comfortable, if there was anything that they
- 18:57Speaker 11: could do to convince him the job judge that he
- 19:01Speaker 11: wouldn't flee. And I'm sure the pre trial officer said, Judge,
- 19:05Speaker 11: we can't control him once he's gone. GPS does anything
- 19:09Speaker 11: when he cuts it off. You can fly anywhere without
- 19:12Speaker 11: a passion.
- 19:14Speaker 2: At Titeaborough, we'll find that an ankle monitor Jensen on
- 19:18Speaker 2: the airstrip at Titaborough as he's getting on that private
- 19:22Speaker 2: plane to head to France. There's no way. But you know,
- 19:26Speaker 2: judges have done it. They have done it, and there
- 19:29Speaker 2: have been disastrous results. Now, while the defense was making
- 19:33Speaker 2: all of these offers begging the judge, the state fired back.
- 19:39Speaker 1: I'm so proud of the Feds this time. Listen.
- 19:42Speaker 13: Prosecutors detail a violent incident in which Combs and a
- 19:45Speaker 13: co conspirator kidnapped an individual at gunpoint to facilitate breaking
- 19:50Speaker 13: into another individual's home. Roughly two weeks later, co conspirators
- 19:54Speaker 13: tied to Comb's set that homeowner's car on fire by
- 19:58Speaker 13: slicing open the convertible top and dropping a Maltov cocktail inside.
- 20:03Speaker 13: Multiple witnesses willing to testify that Combs later bragged about
- 20:07Speaker 13: the crimes.
- 20:08Speaker 2: Did you hear that, doctor, Bethany Marshall. All of these
- 20:14Speaker 2: women know what Combs will do, and that's who the
- 20:17Speaker 2: defense wanted out all bond They slice soap on the
- 20:21Speaker 2: top of a car and drop a Molotov inside, and
- 20:26Speaker 2: their witnesses that saw it, and nothing ever happened.
- 20:29Speaker 1: Nothing happened, Bethany, Nancy.
- 20:32Speaker 10: These victims must be terrified. He probably stalks them, calls them,
- 20:38Speaker 10: texts them, has his bodyguards reach out to him. He
- 20:41Speaker 10: has full total control over their lives. They probably, you know,
- 20:46Speaker 10: he probably makes them terrified that they'll never work again,
- 20:50Speaker 10: just like Harvey Weinstein did that there'll be nothing without
- 20:53Speaker 10: him and Nancy. This is really criminality what we're seeing
- 20:56Speaker 10: with Sean Calms, and unfortunately the fact that he faced
- 21:00Speaker 10: very few consequences and boldened him to increase his criminal enterprise.
- 21:07Speaker 10: He's grandiose, he thinks he's at the center of things,
- 21:10Speaker 10: and he's petty, mean and vindictive, and he stalks women
- 21:16Speaker 10: and wants to have power over them. So I think
- 21:19Speaker 10: that when he faced such few consequences, he just began
- 21:23Speaker 10: to grow in his criminality. It just reinforced it. This
- 21:27Speaker 10: man can never be out of war, out of jail
- 21:30Speaker 10: because Nancy. He probably even stalks his own wives. I'm
- 21:34Speaker 10: surprised he's allowed to have contact with them too.
- 21:37Speaker 14: Prosecutors detail several of Colms's attempts to silence his accusers.
- 21:41Speaker 14: Prosecutors claimed Colmbs and co conspirators called victims and witnesses,
- 21:45Speaker 14: feeding them a false narrative to downplay the alleged abuse.
- 21:48Speaker 14: Two of those late twenty twenty three calls were recorded
- 21:51Speaker 14: in court. Attorneys divulged Combs reached out to a female
- 21:54Speaker 14: victim twice in three days, urging her to say she
- 21:57Speaker 14: quote willingly engaged in sex acts. Last week, Combs reached
- 22:01Speaker 14: out to him or Danny Kaine, Singer in the wake
- 22:03Speaker 14: of Don Richard's lawsuit fifty eight times over four days,
- 22:06Speaker 14: only relenting when she publicly denied Richard's allegations.
- 22:10Speaker 1: Yet they tell the judge.
- 22:12Speaker 2: They will not contact witnesses or try to tamper with witnesses.
- 22:16Speaker 1: Did you hear what.
- 22:18Speaker 2: The crimeonline dot Com investigative reporter just said, relentlessly pursuing
- 22:23Speaker 2: a female witness, trying to change the narrative.
- 22:27Speaker 1: That's the new.
- 22:27Speaker 2: Lingo, getting her to say that she willingly engaged in
- 22:32Speaker 2: sex acts, calling or calling or calling her fifty eight
- 22:36Speaker 2: times over four days, only stopping when she publicly denied
- 22:42Speaker 2: a sex attack.
- 22:43Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not going to contact a witness.
- 22:46Speaker 2: Joining me right now, Angelica Martinez Servigna joining us in
- 22:51Speaker 2: front of the jail, and Jelica, thank you for being
- 22:53Speaker 2: with us outside the jail. Tell me about Sean Combs's
- 22:58Speaker 2: daily schedule, will be jail mind bars and what you
- 23:02Speaker 2: know about the jail. Who are other famous celebs that
- 23:05Speaker 2: have been in that very jail?
- 23:07Speaker 6: Yes, Nancy, we are standing right behind me is where
- 23:10Speaker 6: Sean Puffy Combs is currently being held in.
- 23:13Speaker 10: Brooklyn right now.
- 23:14Speaker 6: This is a federal prison detention facility operated by the
- 23:18Speaker 6: Federal Bureau of Prisons. As I said, Sean Puffy Combs
- 23:21Speaker 6: is currently being held in this facility there before saying
- 23:25Speaker 6: that he's being held in the Special Housing unit, which
- 23:28Speaker 6: is separate from the general prison population and is usually
- 23:31Speaker 6: used for inmates that might need additional protection. Julane Maxwell R.
- 23:36Speaker 15: Kelly.
- 23:37Speaker 6: When they were here in this prison, they were also
- 23:39Speaker 6: held in the special Housing unit. Now, the Metropolitan Detention
- 23:43Speaker 6: Center in Brooklyn has recently and in the past couple
- 23:46Speaker 6: of years, come under fire for its important conditions. A
- 23:50Speaker 6: federal court judge threatened to vacate an inmate sentence if
- 23:53Speaker 6: he was sent here, citing the conditions as dangerous and barbaric.
- 23:58Speaker 6: There have been severe there understaffing issues. There's court filings
- 24:03Speaker 6: that say as recently as last November the facility is
- 24:06Speaker 6: actually operating at just fifty five percent staffed. So it's
- 24:12Speaker 6: pretty It's not the Brian Park Hotel that Sean Puffy
- 24:16Speaker 6: Cobbs was arrested in Monday.
- 24:19Speaker 2: So under our jurisprudence comes is innocent until proven guilty.
- 24:23Speaker 2: But I got to tell you, when the Feds lay
- 24:25Speaker 2: a trap, they lay a trap.
- 24:27Speaker 1: This is a web.
- 24:28Speaker 2: That's going to be very, very difficult for the fly
- 24:31Speaker 2: that would become get out of Sidney Suner joining me
- 24:35Speaker 2: Crime online dot Com investigative reporter Sidney what am I
- 24:38Speaker 2: hearing from Angelic and Martinez that he is in a
- 24:41Speaker 2: special ward. Why is he special? How is he different
- 24:46Speaker 2: from all the other rapists in that jail?
- 24:48Speaker 15: Answer? What we're hearing is that he's in that special
- 24:50Speaker 15: housing unit, and I think that just offers an extra
- 24:54Speaker 15: level of isolation. There are conflicting reports suggesting he may
- 24:59Speaker 15: even be on Shoe was sidewatched, and we now know
- 25:01Speaker 15: that he was actually evaluated by a prison psychologist before
- 25:05Speaker 15: he entered the NBC and Nancy. Conditions in this jail
- 25:10Speaker 15: are extremely violent. There was a murder just a few
- 25:13Speaker 15: months ago back in June. An inmates report that they
- 25:16Speaker 15: are in mere constant lockdown, confined to their celve Sydney.
- 25:22Speaker 2: When you put one thousand men, all charged with felonies,
- 25:29Speaker 2: child molesters, killers, rapists, drug dealers, arms possessors, what do
- 25:39Speaker 2: you think is going to happen behind bars?
- 25:43Speaker 1: Hold on Sydney.
- 25:44Speaker 2: You're the reporter. Let me go to a shrink on this, doctor,
- 25:47Speaker 2: Bethany Marshall.
- 25:48Speaker 1: That's why you don't have freak offs, because you don't
- 25:51Speaker 1: want to be in MDC. I wouldn't do anything.
- 25:55Speaker 2: As much as I'd like to at times to jeopardize
- 25:59Speaker 2: being with my children every night, making their dinner, getting
- 26:04Speaker 2: them to school. All that why I want to be
- 26:08Speaker 2: with him. That's more important than anything else. How can
- 26:11Speaker 2: he whine about Ndcity. He should have thought about that.
- 26:14Speaker 2: In the last thirty years, he's been raping women, according
- 26:18Speaker 2: to the state.
- 26:19Speaker 10: According to the state, Nancy, he puts such enormous energy
- 26:23Speaker 10: into stalking, raping, violating women. If he had just put
- 26:27Speaker 10: that energy into his relationships with his children, can you
- 26:30Speaker 10: imagine what fantastic lives they would have Now He's in prison,
- 26:35Speaker 10: at the bottom of the food chain, and we know
- 26:37Speaker 10: the associate paths. They like to relate to others on
- 26:40Speaker 10: the basis of.
- 26:41Speaker 1: Power, power, not affection.
- 26:43Speaker 10: He has power over everybody in his civilian life, Nancy.
- 26:47Speaker 10: He's not going to have power over anybody in that prison.
- 26:51Speaker 10: There are a lot of men with a lot of testosterone,
- 26:53Speaker 10: a lot of aggression and acts to grind, who are
- 26:57Speaker 10: just going to be there right on top of him.
- 27:00Speaker 2: I don't get it, Liz saw Am, I supposed to
- 27:02Speaker 2: hear that daddy's got a tt into a metal urinal.
- 27:06Speaker 1: I don't care.
- 27:07Speaker 10: None of us are supposed to care, because think about
- 27:10Speaker 10: the prison, the jails, all of his victims have been
- 27:13Speaker 10: living in and continue to live in, and I want
- 27:15Speaker 10: to keep the focus again. First of all, I'm a
- 27:18Speaker 10: New Yorker. As far as I'm concerned, the Manhattan Detention
- 27:20Speaker 10: Center is too good of a place for this Pimp
- 27:23Speaker 10: Daddy that was his street name since the nineties, Pimp Daddy. Remember,
- 27:27Speaker 10: we have worked at the Warriors with women who have
- 27:29Speaker 10: come up as teenage girls through this whole rap music, right,
- 27:34Speaker 10: it started as hip hop, then it was rap music.
- 27:36Speaker 10: And they have reported these things about him and his
- 27:39Speaker 10: entourage for decades. Now, we don't care. Let him choke
- 27:44Speaker 10: on a bad tune of fish sandwich. Let's think about
- 27:46Speaker 10: the victims. Let's think about the survivors.
- 27:49Speaker 2: Well, you know what we're talking about, rape victims and
- 27:53Speaker 2: a sodomy victims alleged by the statement. Let's don't forget
- 27:58Speaker 2: the potential murder.
- 28:00Speaker 1: Charge hanging out there. Listen.
- 28:02Speaker 7: Dwayne Keethy d Davis claims credit for Tupac's murder on
- 28:06Speaker 7: beet and in his memoir, he says Puffy Combs wanted
- 28:09Speaker 7: Knight and Tupac's heads after their disc track hit them up.
- 28:13Speaker 7: When Davis offers to carry out the hits, Combs agrees
- 28:16Speaker 7: to pay him one million dollars.
- 28:21Speaker 3: Combs allegedly planned and controlled the sex performances, which he
- 28:25Speaker 3: called freakoffs, and he often.
- 28:28Speaker 1: Electronically recorded them.
- 28:31Speaker 3: The freakofs sometimes lasted days at a time, involved multiple
- 28:35Speaker 3: commercial sex workers, and often involved a variety of narcotics
- 28:39Speaker 3: such as ketamine, ecstasy, and GHB, which Combs distributed to
- 28:44Speaker 3: the victims to keep them obedient and compliant. As alleged,
- 28:49Speaker 3: when Combs didn't get his way, he was violent, and
- 28:52Speaker 3: he subjected victims of physical, emotional, and verbal abuse so
- 28:57Speaker 3: that they would participate in the freak offs.
- 28:59Speaker 2: You know, this would never have happened in my mind
- 29:02Speaker 2: if it had not been for Cassie Ventura, who had
- 29:07Speaker 2: the guts to sue Comes, and then the video leaked.
- 29:13Speaker 2: Nobody wanted to believe that their friend Comes. He's been
- 29:18Speaker 2: snugged up with let's see, Hillary Clinton. He's been snugged
- 29:24Speaker 2: up with Donald Trump. He's been snugged up with Ashton Kutchener.
- 29:31Speaker 1: With j Low, of course, with every star.
- 29:35Speaker 2: So many stars, Bieber fifty, you name it. But no
- 29:42Speaker 2: one wanted to stand up for these victims.
- 29:48Speaker 1: None of these celeb friends. They all went quiet. Remember
- 29:51Speaker 1: when Weinstein was charged with.
- 29:53Speaker 2: Rape, Oh, that was an outcry like no other. Now
- 30:00Speaker 2: when it's their friend, Sean Puffy Combs, nobody's saying a word.
- 30:06Speaker 1: We'll guess what we are.
- 30:08Speaker 2: And his defense attorney ain't helping anything with.
- 30:12Speaker 1: Statements like this. Listen.
- 30:14Speaker 16: In response to prosecutor's argument that the footage from the
- 30:17Speaker 16: Intercontinental Hotel in Los Angeles is critical evidence displaying Combs's
- 30:22Speaker 16: physical danger and his effort to obstruct, defense attorney Mark
- 30:26Speaker 16: Agnaphillo says the attack had nothing to do with trafficking,
- 30:29Speaker 16: and Cassandra Ventura started that altercation, hitting Combs in the
- 30:33Speaker 16: head with her cell phone while he was asleeve. Agnaphillos
- 30:37Speaker 16: claims Ventura left the hotel room after learning Combs was
- 30:40Speaker 16: dating another woman, not because she was fleeing a freak off, and.
- 30:45Speaker 2: He went on to say, this is Combs's lawyer, defense lawyer,
- 30:49Speaker 2: that she should have been grateful for all the opportunities
- 30:52Speaker 2: that he gave her, that it was a loving relationship.
- 31:03Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, Yeah, I don't get it,
- 31:11Speaker 1: doctor Bethany.
- 31:13Speaker 2: How do you derive enjoyment from beating your victims? Drugging them,
- 31:23Speaker 2: posing them in all sorts of positions, and videoing them
- 31:27Speaker 2: getting raped.
- 31:28Speaker 10: Well, Nancy, one aspect of this crime that we haven't
- 31:30Speaker 10: yet addressed is his sadism.
- 31:33Speaker 1: You know, he's.
- 31:34Speaker 10: Really a mean, sadistic person. Not only does he want
- 31:37Speaker 10: to have power over his victims, he wants to see
- 31:40Speaker 10: them in pain, He wants to see them rendered helpless.
- 31:44Speaker 10: He wants to see them in compromising, humiliating positions. This
- 31:49Speaker 10: is his mo and the fact that he did not
- 31:52Speaker 10: face consequences earlier in his life means that the sadism,
- 31:56Speaker 10: this kind of perverse sadism, just flourished in his life.
- 32:00Speaker 2: You know, just imagine it if you let your mind
- 32:03Speaker 2: go this far, Bethany, can you just see him directing
- 32:12Speaker 2: these women who were passed out, many of them had
- 32:17Speaker 2: no idea they were taking given drugs, and positioning them
- 32:22Speaker 2: in comes, getting directly involved and positioning their bodies and
- 32:27Speaker 2: all sorts of sex positions for then a sex worker
- 32:32Speaker 2: to rape the woman and she has no idea what's
- 32:35Speaker 2: going on, and then.
- 32:37Speaker 1: Comes with threatened to leak.
- 32:39Speaker 2: Those videos to who her husband, her family, her family.
- 32:45Speaker 2: I don't know, that's what we're talking about, earlier I
- 32:48Speaker 2: said that the defense is diluted.
- 32:50Speaker 1: I really think.
- 32:52Speaker 2: Combs is diluted, and that is not a defense under
- 32:55Speaker 2: our law.
- 32:56Speaker 1: Listen, wherever he is, his resolve is the same. He
- 33:01Speaker 1: believes is innocent.
- 33:02Speaker 8: I believe he's innocent, and we're going to fight this
- 33:05Speaker 8: case with all of our might until we don't have
- 33:07Speaker 8: to fight any longer.
- 33:08Speaker 2: You were just hearing Agnafello Combs as lawyer who insists
- 33:13Speaker 2: that Comes believes he's innocent. You know, many people argue
- 33:18Speaker 2: that OJ Simpson actually thought he didn't do it. At
- 33:21Speaker 2: some point he had said to stories so many times
- 33:23Speaker 2: he actually started believing it.
- 33:24Speaker 1: I disagree. I think he ain't.
- 33:28Speaker 2: Comb's knows they need Simpson new Combs knows he's not innocent.
- 33:35Speaker 2: It's easy to delude yourself that you didn't do anything wrong.
- 33:38Speaker 2: He did and he knows it.
- 33:40Speaker 1: And I want to be very clear.
- 33:42Speaker 2: There have been two judges involved in these rulings, and
- 33:46Speaker 2: they had to stand up to a lot of money
- 33:49Speaker 2: and a lot of pressure from various various sectors. Regarding
- 33:54Speaker 2: the bond decision to Sidney Summer joining US crimeonline dot
- 33:58Speaker 2: Com investigative reporter. Two judges first one judge said no.
- 34:02Speaker 2: Then the defense attorney demanded another.
- 34:06Speaker 1: Hearing on bond, and he got it. Tell me about
- 34:10Speaker 1: the two judges, one a man, one woman, Nancy.
- 34:13Speaker 15: So that judge that first saw Combs for his arraignment
- 34:16Speaker 15: was Judge Robin Turnowski. That's our female judge. And she
- 34:21Speaker 15: shut that bail down so quick she had to let
- 34:25Speaker 15: arguments go on and on, but she spent about twenty
- 34:28Speaker 15: minutes in her chambers with pre trial services, came out
- 34:32Speaker 15: and immediately denied that bail proposition. Wednesday, they appeared in
- 34:37Speaker 15: front of Judge Andrew Carter, who heard many of the
- 34:40Speaker 15: same arguments with more information coming out. And I loved
- 34:44Speaker 15: this from Judge Andrew Carter. While Agrew Pillow is trying
- 34:48Speaker 15: to argue that the video in the inter Continental Hotel
- 34:53Speaker 15: as a result of two very passionate people who are
- 34:56Speaker 15: very in love. Judge Andrew Carter respond what love got
- 35:01Speaker 15: to do with that, referring to that video, and again
- 35:05Speaker 15: denied that bail proposition right off the back.
- 35:08Speaker 1: I want you to hear this.
- 35:10Speaker 2: After the Cassieventia video came out, Comes released his own
- 35:16Speaker 2: video talking about how he had hit rock bottom that
- 35:20Speaker 2: he takes full responsibility for his actions and talks about
- 35:25Speaker 2: how sorry he is and it was difficult to reflect
- 35:28Speaker 2: on the darkest times of his life. But at the
- 35:31Speaker 2: same time he was trying to tamper with witnesses and
- 35:34Speaker 2: get them to change their stories, victims changing their stories. Listen,
- 35:40Speaker 2: it's so difficult to reflect on the darkest times in
- 35:44Speaker 2: your life.
- 35:45Speaker 1: Sometimes you got to do that.
- 35:49Speaker 14: I was, I mean, I hit rock bottom, but I.
- 35:54Speaker 9: Made no excuses.
- 35:56Speaker 1: My behavior on that video is inexcusable.
- 36:00Speaker 10: I'd take full responsibility from my ashes in that video.
- 36:05Speaker 3: Colmes allegedly planned and controlled the sex performances, which he
- 36:09Speaker 3: called freak.
- 36:11Speaker 4: Off, freakoffs, freakoffs, freak offs, freakoffs.
- 36:17Speaker 5: Sean Puffy Combs aka Diddy aka p Diddy, I'll.
- 36:23Speaker 1: See you in court. I can tell you that's right.
- 36:28Speaker 2: Now. We are learning about how the state's going to
- 36:31Speaker 2: actually prove this case.
- 36:32Speaker 1: It won't be a surprise to you legal eagles. Listen.
- 36:35Speaker 13: When asked if there is a possibility for more arrests
- 36:37Speaker 13: US attorney Damian Williams answers quote, nothing is off the table.
- 36:41Speaker 13: The indictment against Combs mentions numerous members of business staff, security,
- 36:45Speaker 13: household staff, personal assistants and high ranking supervisors that facilitated
- 36:49Speaker 13: Colbs's crimes, but does not mention any specific names. Williams
- 36:54Speaker 13: could not put an exact number to the amount of
- 36:57Speaker 13: people victimized by Combs, emphasizing that the investigation is still ongoing.
- 37:02Speaker 1: Straight out to.
- 37:03Speaker 2: Tim Jansen, joining us. You see what they're doing right there,
- 37:05Speaker 2: right They're naming all of these enablers' facilitators who are
- 37:11Speaker 2: either going to be co defendants in their own right
- 37:15Speaker 2: or witnesses they can pick. And nobody say there's anything
- 37:19Speaker 2: wrong with that, because there's not The stake can choose
- 37:22Speaker 2: to charge them, not charge them, charge them and take
- 37:25Speaker 2: their testimony and give them a cheap deal.
- 37:29Speaker 1: It doesn't matter.
- 37:30Speaker 2: What I'm saying is they're not ruling out more arrests Janssen.
- 37:35Speaker 1: So here's what's not being said.
- 37:38Speaker 11: The reason the government wants him in custody is because
- 37:40Speaker 11: of the power and control he has over the organization.
- 37:44Speaker 11: Once he's in custody, now they can go to these
- 37:48Speaker 11: people who were reluctant to come forward, offer them witness
- 37:52Speaker 11: protection program for them to come in and be and
- 37:56Speaker 11: show and prove what these victims are saying. You know
- 37:59Speaker 11: this could really make this case against him much stronger,
- 38:03Speaker 11: and it can spread the case to other co conspirators
- 38:06Speaker 11: who are now going to be fending for themselves.
- 38:08Speaker 2: Fending for themselves. True, I don't know that anybody wants
- 38:11Speaker 2: to go into the Witness Protection Act that that's not
- 38:13Speaker 2: any fun.
- 38:14Speaker 1: Herb Brandt.
- 38:15Speaker 2: Did you hear Herbrandt travel the world for the US
- 38:19Speaker 2: Marshall Service bringing.
- 38:20Speaker 1: In felons that got out on bond and.
- 38:23Speaker 2: Took off like a bounty hunter but works for the government.
- 38:27Speaker 2: What do you make the States saying they are not
- 38:30Speaker 2: ruling out more arrests.
- 38:31Speaker 1: I'm telling you that's how they're going to make this case.
- 38:34Speaker 9: It's not surprising, Nancy. This is a very complex case.
- 38:38Speaker 9: And when you're talking about RICO, you're talking about an
- 38:40Speaker 9: ongoing criminal organization. RICO was basically brought in to dismantling
- 38:48Speaker 9: the mob and their hierarchy, and the same thing with
- 38:53Speaker 9: this case. They want to go after everyone involved, everyone
- 38:56Speaker 9: that enabled Sean Combs to participate in these activities. They
- 39:04Speaker 9: want to bring them to justice. Also, so I'm not
- 39:07Speaker 9: surprised by the prosecution statements that more arrest may be coming.
- 39:12Speaker 2: We understand that the judges both thought that there was
- 39:17Speaker 2: a very strong chance that Sean puppy Comes would flee
- 39:21Speaker 2: the jurisdiction or Brant, that's your specialty. What do you
- 39:25Speaker 2: believe Comes would have done if one of these judges
- 39:28Speaker 2: had granted him bond.
- 39:29Speaker 9: Oh, he would have been gone, Nancy. I mean, I
- 39:32Speaker 9: have no doubt that he had a plan in his
- 39:35Speaker 9: mind if he could get out, no matter what the
- 39:39Speaker 9: conditions of GPS monitoring house, arrested, intensive supervision.
- 39:46Speaker 1: He has a financial.
- 39:48Speaker 9: Means to disappear, and I'm sure that was his plan
- 39:52Speaker 9: because he's looking at so much time on these charges.
- 39:57Speaker 2: I'm telling you Anna Delvey, who was a star a
- 40:00Speaker 2: cable documentary. It's on Dancing with Stars right now with
- 40:05Speaker 2: her ankle bracelet. Her monitor is bedazzled when she dances
- 40:11Speaker 2: on the floor. You want to tell me we wouldn't
- 40:13Speaker 2: find ditties cut off and lying on the runway the
- 40:18Speaker 2: airstrip at Tataboro. That's where we would find that. Straight
- 40:21Speaker 2: back out to Angelica Martinez joining us in front of
- 40:24Speaker 2: the jail.
- 40:25Speaker 1: MDC.
- 40:26Speaker 2: I understand that Combs has a status hearing on October
- 40:32Speaker 2: the ninth.
- 40:32Speaker 1: We'll get to see him again on October the night.
- 40:35Speaker 2: Out of his special housing unit there at MDC.
- 40:38Speaker 1: Yes, that is correct, Nancy.
- 40:40Speaker 6: So his next hearing is waited for October ninth, and
- 40:43Speaker 6: until then he will be behind us in this metropolity
- 40:46Speaker 6: detention center in Brooklyn, where I don't know if you
- 40:49Speaker 6: can hear there all morning, there have been inmates seemingly
- 40:54Speaker 6: brawling or some very disturbing noises coming from just behind me.
- 40:57Speaker 6: Right there in those fences we can hear, presumably officers
- 41:03Speaker 6: trying to get everything under control. So this is where
- 41:06Speaker 6: Cole's will be spending his time until October night.
- 41:09Speaker 2: We wait as justice unvols and we pray it rains
- 41:15Speaker 2: down like a flood.
- 41:19Speaker 1: Thank you to all of our guests.
- 41:22Speaker 2: Can you imagine what it would have meant if Comes
- 41:26Speaker 2: had gotten bond, What it would mean to all of
- 41:29Speaker 2: the rape victims, all of the abuse victims in.
- 41:33Speaker 1: The past, the present, and those yet to come.
- 41:36Speaker 2: Nancy Grace signing off, goodbye friend,