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- 0:00today we're gonna talk about nitrogen.
- 0:02And don't worry, it's not all bad news.
- 0:04There is some bad news in that excess nitrogen creates a lot of problems like algal
- 0:07blooms and red tide. But the good news is that we can solve those fixes.
- 0:12And nitrogen is a natural process.
- 0:13We just gotta make sure that we get keep it in control.
- 0:16and there are specific aspects of coastal habitats.
- 0:21That can help keep it in control if those coastal habitats are one present
- 0:25and are healthy. So we're going to talk about that on today's episode of
- 0:29the How to Protect the Ocean podcast,
- 0:31why these coastal habitats are nature's kidneys.
- 0:35All on today's episode, if you like this type of stuff where we talk about ocean
- 0:38news, ocean science, and how you can protect the ocean,
- 0:42then follow this podcast because it's exactly what we are here to do.
- 0:46All right, let's start off with.
- 0:49You know, just an idea, Green water.
- 0:52Nobody likes green water. It's a smell that just,
- 0:55you know, has a smell that won't go away.
- 0:56And then sometimes even like you'll get dead fish washing up on the shore,
- 1:00and it's gross, and that's what too much nitrogen does to our coastline.
- 1:03And here's what most people don't realize:
- 1:07a healthy stretch of marsh or mangroves can pull out the nitrogen.
- 1:12straight out of the water before any of it goes into the coastline and
- 1:16any of the green water happens.
- 1:18So as long as we keep those healthy and as long as those can keep up with
- 1:22sea level rise, we are okay. And that's what we're going to talk about
- 1:27all this week.
- 1:28yesterday's episode was an interview with Adam Langley,
- 1:31who introduced a lot of things about nitrogen and how it is taken
- 1:35up by mangroves and marshes in the U.S.
- 1:38We're gonna talk a lot of that.
- 1:39We're gonna focus on those two habitats,
- 1:41but there are also other coastal habitats like seagrass,
- 1:44salt marshes, mudflats that do very similar things just in different zones within
- 1:49our world. The key here is keeping them intact.
- 1:52And keeping them healthy. That's what we want.
- 1:55Keeping them present, keeping them healthy.
- 1:56That's the whole purpose of this episode today.
- 2:00And look, I get it. We see a lot of news that's happening around
- 2:04the world where we're talking about algal blooms that are out of control,
- 2:07green water, red tide, where people can't breathe on the beaches because there's
- 2:11so much dead in like dead fish and dead manatees and dolphins and sea turtles.
- 2:16It can get heavy.
- 2:18It can get really heavy. And when you see all this happening,
- 2:20especially with climate change bringing in this exaggeration
- 2:24of what's happening because we're seeing it more and more often,
- 2:27the thing here is it can actually be controlled.
- 2:30This is something that we as humans can control for a specific aspect.
- 2:35And now it's starting to get out of control because we're
- 2:37not following certain regulations,
- 2:40or we're changing the regulations,
- 2:42or we're not doing certain things that will keep it intact.
- 2:45But
- 2:46we can keep intact. And we're going to talk about that all this week.
- 2:49and especially today, because I think it's really important.
- 2:52Coastal wetlands, salt marshes,
- 2:54mangroves, we got wet ~ we got seagrasses,
- 2:57even coral reefs to a certain degree.
- 2:59all these types of coastal habitats play a role.
- 3:02You know, mud flats, but they all play a role in keeping not only carbon in place.
- 3:08Like they, you know, it's not just carbon,
- 3:10they actually store
- 3:11Nitrogen. They pull it straight out of the water into the roots because they need
- 3:14nitrogen to survive. They need nitrogen to feed their system,
- 3:17And they and they pull that out before it reaches any kind of bay or
- 3:21any kind of coastland. And I think that's that's an important aspect
- 3:25to to maintain is that these things are there to keep nitrogen in check,
- 3:29That's what if you learn anything about photosynthesis or anything about
- 3:32the health of animals of plants,
- 3:34and trees, they like nutrients.
- 3:36That's something that's that's important.
- 3:38So plants will take it up ~ into their roots.
- 3:40And then the waterlogged soil starves out any kind of bacteria that would release
- 3:45that new those nutrients back in.
- 3:47And then it locks away in the mud ~ for centuries.
- 3:51And it's the same reason. I know this kind of sounds weird,
- 3:53but it's the same reason why when you put a a body in like a mangrove or
- 3:56in a marsh or a peat bog or if it's somewhere where there's no oxygen in the soil.
- 4:01it stays preserved for hundreds of years.
- 4:03And so, you know, don't do that,
- 4:05I guess. you shouldn't be doing that anyway.
- 4:07But that's what happens. if you see an animal or anything like that's been dead
- 4:10and it looks intact, it could have been it could have been dead a long time ago.
- 4:13It just hasn't decomposed because there's no oxygen or bacteria to decompose it.
- 4:17So it's kind of kind of interesting.
- 4:19Now here's the reality of the situation.
- 4:21We have coastal wetlands that have been taken out a lot of the times because
- 4:27of development. And we're going to talk about a specific example,
- 4:29a couple specific examples in a minute.
- 4:31But we know that when they are put back in place,
- 4:34we know that they do well. Pretty much that's what happens.
- 4:38There was a study by authors called Skidmore and Kowarski,
- 4:42or Kowowski,
- 4:43sorry.
- 4:44~ where you know they restored a single 100 acre wetland and that cut ammonia down,
- 4:50like cut ammonia release down by 62% and a total nitrogen by 37%.
- 4:55And it saved local water systems about $17,000 a year in treatment costs within just
- 5:01three years. So you put a a restored area intact and you keep it healthy,
- 5:07and within three years, you're cutting down the release of ammonia and nitrogen.
- 5:10These are natural processes, it's not.
- 5:12A concrete wall. This is not like they harden it with rocks and things like that,
- 5:16or the engineers when they want to keep maintain like a specific area that's being
- 5:20eroded. No, these are natural wetlands that can not only secure
- 5:23the coastline and make sure it doesn't erode because it it keeps the soil intact,
- 5:27like close together and tight,
- 5:28it also reduces ammonia and nitrogen within just within three years
- 5:33in this example anyway. And we've and we find it's in other examples then ~ as well,
- 5:38So like a patch of wetland.
- 5:40Smaller than most farms, was doing the job of what municipal water treatments
- 5:44do for free. So think about that,
- 5:47Think about saving money and how that works.
- 5:50It's it's all done for free. that just because of the wetland is put together.
- 5:54Now, restoring wetlands and marshes and mangroves and all that kind
- 5:58of stuff is expensive. There's no doubt about that.
- 6:00That's why it's important to keep them intact right from the beginning.
- 6:03Now, I want to talk to you about an example.
- 6:07So actually two examples.
- 6:09The first one is Tampa Bay. So you know the city,
- 6:12Tampa Bay. The reason why it's called Tampa Bay is because there is actually
- 6:14a bay in Tampa Bay. in 19 in the 1950s and 1970s,
- 6:18Tampa Bay's population exploded.
- 6:20Sorry, I'm gonna start that again.
- 6:22From the 1950s to the 1970s, Tampa Bay's population,
- 6:26you know, exploded.
- 6:28it exploded for one reason. Once air conditioning was made available to households,
- 6:32people said, hey, Florida's liverable all year round,
- 6:35not just in the winters. So we can actually handle the summers.
- 6:38So it went from population of 400,000 people to over a million by like 1970.
- 6:45So in 20 years, it grew by 600,000.
- 6:48That's a pretty big, that's a pretty big jump.
- 6:50Now, when you have that jump in population,
- 6:53development like ensues.
- 6:55Right. So development paved over mangroves and marshes that had been filtering
- 7:00the bay's water for centuries.
- 7:01Now, all this now, untreated,
- 7:05you know, lightly treated sewage water,
- 7:08just poured into the bay. So nitrogen fed the blooms that blocked the sunlight.
- 7:14Seagrass, which you know needs light to survive,
- 7:17that was in the bay, collapsed to near nothing.
- 7:20between nineteen seventy four and nineteen ninety one,
- 7:22things started to change. There was actually a sixty minute segment that held
- 7:26the bay up as a pollution poster child.
- 7:28And and and public pressure followed too.
- 7:31So from that segment, you know,
- 7:32in Florida, they they came up with a regulation,
- 7:35an act. So Florida's 1978 Grizzly Fig Act forced wastewater treatment plants
- 7:40to strip nutrients out before the discharge.
- 7:43Before the wastewater treatment plants weren't looking at nutrients,
- 7:46it's actually like a third sort of process point that a lot of treatment plants just
- 7:51ignored. And for many times, this is not just Tampa Bay.
- 7:54I don't want to single out Florida as many people do.
- 7:56This happens all this was happening all over the world.
- 7:59Nutrients weren't being filtered out.
- 8:01So in 1991, the Tampa Bay Estuary Program formed a nitrogen management consortium
- 8:06and it coordinated over 500 separate nutrient reduction projects across industry,
- 8:12agriculture, and local government,
- 8:13plus active habit habitat restoration work,
- 8:16rebuilding mangrove and marsh acreages as part of its its long-term habitat plan.
- 8:23So essentially what they did is they got together and they said,
- 8:25Where are we seeing most of the nutrients coming out of?
- 8:28Let's start.
- 8:30regulating those those discharges and make sure that we do modeling,
- 8:34engineers will wastewater engineers will come up with all this modeling to say,
- 8:36hey, at at the end of your pipe of your industry,
- 8:39whether it's a factory or anything like that,
- 8:41at the end of that pipe, when it goes into the natural water,
- 8:43it has to be a certain value. It can't be above a certain value.
- 8:46If it's like if ammonia or nitrogen is above,
- 8:49like so they look at ammonia, nitrate,
- 8:51nitrate, if those are or nitrite,
- 8:53nitrate, because the way it goes,
- 8:54if those are elevated above a certain level,
- 8:58That industry's in trouble because it's going start to contribute
- 9:01to excess nitrogen. And that's what's going to happen.
- 9:03We're going to start to see algal blooms and seagrass is going to die
- 9:06and all this kind of stuff. So once you have that regulation in place,
- 9:09then everything good, everything's good because they look at all the industries
- 9:13as a whole system and they say,
- 9:14okay, if everybody stays below this level,
- 9:16we should be fine. Okay. And that's exactly what happened.
- 9:20So nitrogen flowing into the bay from wastewater sources dropped by about 90%.
- 9:26Just because of certain controls and certain monitoring,
- 9:29when you know what's coming out of the pipe from industry and from different places,
- 9:33you can do really well. Seagrasses went from roughly like covering 21,000 acres,
- 9:38just over 21,000 acres in 1982 to over 40,000 acres in 2015.
- 9:44Right? That's almost double what they what they were covering,
- 9:47covering an area close to that size of Manhattan,
- 9:50that's how big it
- 9:50was.
- 9:51a bay that was written off back in the 70s now is like the poster child.
- 9:56And it and it's about one it creates one in five jobs in the region because
- 10:00of that bay being healthy because of of tourism.
- 10:03the the bay is actually usable.
- 10:06So people come in, they want to go around,
- 10:08they they start to increase like ~ you know shops along the sides,
- 10:11along the bay. You get a nice walk around there.
- 10:14That's important. That's an important aspect of.
- 10:18How wastewater treatment upgrades,
- 10:20was one of the biggest levers to actually to do the initial turnaround.
- 10:24And this is just the stuff at the end of the pipe.
- 10:26that's what we call a point source because we know at what point they come out.
- 10:30Non-point sources, where you never know where it's coming out of,
- 10:33that can be taken up by all these coastal habitats,
- 10:37Because usually if it comes out of a pipe,
- 10:39a point source, it comes out literally right into the bay.
- 10:42or it comes into somewhere before it hits the wastewater treatment plant.
- 10:45But we know where it's coming out.
- 10:46And it's just a long pipe from that industry that goes into a specific water body.
- 10:50With non-point sources, it can come out of anywhere.
- 10:53It can go along roads. It can go into these little streams that can't really
- 10:56be controlled or monitored that much.
- 10:58Well, it could be monitored, but not a lot of times it's monitored.
- 11:01So then you you start to use those coastal habitats as the way to take
- 11:04up those nutrients. I mean, look at the Everglades.
- 11:06Everglades is a as a is a huge sink for nitrogen.
- 11:10Right. It just takes it up into its system and it works out really,
- 11:13really well, which is great to see.
- 11:15You know, that's what that's what we want.
- 11:17That's what we want to see. Now,
- 11:19there's another story too. When I talked about a little bit about going back
- 11:24to that Skidmore and Kowarski Kowski study,
- 11:27~ the what they looked at the wetlands along the Mississippi River.
- 11:31The Mississippi River is a beautiful place.
- 11:33However
- 11:34We've known for years that all of the fertilizers and anything kind
- 11:38of that contributes to nutrients along the Mississippi River goes down into
- 11:41the Mississippi and then it goes right into discharged right into
- 11:45the Gulf of Mexico. I was actually on a ship where we measured
- 11:50the consequences of all of those nutrients going at the mouth of
- 11:53the of the Mississippi in the springtime.
- 11:56phytoplankton blooms in the springtime where they're mixing and mixing because
- 11:59the winds are still there, mixing,
- 12:01and then the summertime mixing stops.
- 12:02The phytoplankton dies, it goes down to the bottom of the ocean,
- 12:06it gets taken up into the microbial loop where it gets broken down,
- 12:10and then oxygen gets taken out.
- 12:12But there's so much phytoplankton that oxygen is almost removed from
- 12:17the bottom 1.5 layer of the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico in this area where this
- 12:22plume is. Now, the Mississippi is one of the biggest rivers in the world.
- 12:25It goes out pretty far. And so they would measure the the amount of area that this
- 12:30plume would take up and make sort of assumptions and measurements along those areas,
- 12:35along that area, ~ and see where there's you know lack of dissolved oxygen.
- 12:39Cause then you don't have fish or invertebrates or things like that,
- 12:42and you're not having a productive environment.
- 12:43And then what would happen is those results would go back to Congress,
- 12:46because it's all in the US, would go back to Congress.
- 12:48That scientist at the time, Dr.
- 12:50Nancy Rabelay, would go to Congress and it would testify on the results.
- 12:55And that would essentially regulate the amount of fertilizers
- 12:58and anything that causes nutrient overload that would happen along the Mississippi.
- 13:03So all those all those farms and any kind of in industry that would discharge
- 13:07nutrients, that would regulate what would happen at the end.
- 13:10And that would regulate how much fertilizer can be used.
- 13:12Now look, we use fertilizer. We have to use fertilizer to feed all
- 13:16the people in each and one of our countries.
- 13:18It's a matter of can we use fertilizer in a way that's sustainable,
- 13:22that we're not.
- 13:23adding extra or excess nutrients into the water to mess up our water system.
- 13:29And these coastal habitats like mangroves and marshes will actually help
- 13:34in the process. But they have to be there.
- 13:37If we zoom out a little bit, like to look at the world,
- 13:41I don't want you to over like take this too much,
- 13:45but the world has lost roughly 20% of its mangroves since 1980.
- 13:49You know, mostly because of coastal development,
- 13:51And it's the exact same thing that almost destroyed Tampa Bay.
- 13:56But global blue carbon habitat is still valued at close to $191 billion
- 14:02a year in climate benefit alone.
- 14:05That's not including the economic
- 14:07benefit that it happens that it brings in just like it did in Tampa Bay,
- 14:10It looked just like it does in Tampa Bay.
- 14:12Right. And that's huge. And that's not even counting the nutrient filtering.
- 14:18That's how important these these these coastal wetlands are.
- 14:22So the big thing is we need to keep these habitats intact,
- 14:29the ones that are there and not pave over them and not develop over them.
- 14:32And we also need to bring back the ones that were lost.
- 14:35Because there are certain things that we do as humans when we take certain things
- 14:39out that we don't know the ramifications of that.
- 14:42In the Mississippi Delta in the 70s and 80s,
- 14:46there was a huge thing to harden the coastline,
- 14:49meaning put in concrete or man-made structures to make sure that certain parts
- 14:56of the Delta were not eroding away.
- 14:58Cause that's what was happening.
- 14:59Certain parts of them were eroding away where people wanted to develop.
- 15:02But what we realize, or engineers realize,
- 15:05I remember this was at a coastal zone Canada conference a number of years ago,
- 15:08and I remember the engineers talking about it.
- 15:10What they realized is that when they harden that certain area,
- 15:12what was eroded from that area would build up something else in the Delta.
- 15:16A lot of times was air were areas where there was indigenous land.
- 15:21And so by hardening certain spots in the in the delta,
- 15:25that that sand or that that sediment wouldn't go build up the other.
- 15:30So all that other
- 15:31Part of like indigenous land would actually erode away.
- 15:35So there was a ~ new sort of push and movement to green
- 15:41the shoreline again and soften the shoreline in a way so that
- 15:44the delta could actually rebuild all the stuff that it did before.
- 15:48Right. So there are certain things that we do ~ preemptively,
- 15:53and then we have to react to the mistakes that we make because we don't realize it.
- 15:56And this is what happens when you try to develop.
- 15:59Very quickly. We've seen it with so many industries.
- 16:01We've seen it with housing. We've seen it with industry.
- 16:04we see it now, we're starting to see it with data centers.
- 16:07You know, data centers have to pop up all over the place,
- 16:09and we're now starting to pay attention to it because they've done it before.
- 16:11You know, people starting to put in underwater data centers.
- 16:14That's what they want to do. Doesn't make sense.
- 16:16It's not proven. We don't know what's going to happen to fish habitat
- 16:19or anything else that's that's done,
- 16:20and they're all done in small towns where there's not going to be a big kerfuffle.
- 16:26Basically, They're not going to make a lot of noise,
- 16:27even if they reject it or try and fight it.
- 16:29So there's there's a lot of and there,
- 16:31and of course, there's different tactics they use to entice certain communities
- 16:35to say, yes, let's do this because it'll benefit benefit us in the end.
- 16:40But the thing is that there's certain things that you can do right away,
- 16:44Like going back to
- 16:45not contributing nutrients, you can cut back on synthetic fertilizers.
- 16:49I know here in Ontario the government did that on their own.
- 16:51They said a long time ago, they said,
- 16:53hey, we can't use certain pesticides and nutrients because it's causing
- 16:56too much problems in the Great Lakes watersheds and in the Great Lakes essentially.
- 17:00But we also need to ~ move and and so sorry,
- 17:04instead of using synthetic, you can use to a slow release or organic option,
- 17:07Which is not going to be as effective on your lawn,
- 17:10but that's okay because it's for the betterment
- 17:12of.
- 17:12the entire environment that is around you.
- 17:15If you don't like green water in your lakes or in your streams and things,
- 17:18then maybe think about doing this.
- 17:20But it's not just tied to individually,
- 17:21We are looking at government aspects to help make sure that industry
- 17:27is following those point source numbers.
- 17:29There are a lot of times where government is just going to say,
- 17:31hey, you know what? We're just going to leave it alone.
- 17:34Where you can do your best management practices.
- 17:37Follow the best management practices to keep it as low as possible.
- 17:39Other that, you should be fine.
- 17:41And we're gonna talk about that tomorrow because that can lead to red tide,
- 17:45especially in an era of climate change.
- 17:48So I think that's where we're gonna leave for tomorrow.
- 17:50We're gonna end the episode here.
- 17:51But I want you to think about how Tampa Bay has changed,
- 17:55between the 1950s and 1970s, it looked horrible because of such massive growth
- 18:00and development and everything.
- 18:01And then we realize that we can fix this.
- 18:03This is fixable by human intervention.
- 18:05And we can continue to make progress on that in each and every area.
- 18:10If our government has our back and the people pressure the government to say,
- 18:15hey, you know what? We need to do this.
- 18:16We need to do this not from an environmental standpoint,
- 18:20but from a safety standpoint. The environment standpoint just comes together.
- 18:24It is how our our world works.
- 18:26We can't change everything to benefit ourselves.
- 18:30Without seeing the consequences.
- 18:31And we're starting to see those consequences,
- 18:33or we have seen those consequences for decades.
- 18:35It's a matter of can we fix them or not?
- 18:37We know there's a proven fix. We know that nature will figure out a way if
- 18:42we put it back or if we leave it the way it is,
- 18:44and that we'll be okay if that happens.
- 18:46So that's the episode for today.
- 18:47I hope you enjoyed ~ this episode.
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