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The Breakfast Club BEST OF - 6lack, Black Mother’s Wound Podcast, Jake Seinfeld interview · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Wake up, wake up the program you alarm the power
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  Speaker 1: one O five point one on iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: God morning us a yo yo yo yo yo yo
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  Speaker 2: yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo
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  Speaker 2: yo yo yo yo.
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  Speaker 3: Yo yo yo yo just hilarious. Ass up, Charlamagne.
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  Speaker 4: He to the planning. It is Monday, Memorial Day. Are
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  Speaker 4: we pretending like we're here?
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  Speaker 5: We are pretending like we're here.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, okay, okay, Hi alright, I'm a I Searla Maine.
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  Speaker 4: I am here.
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  Speaker 7: You here.
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  Speaker 3: Let me stick my finger there to see if you.
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  Speaker 4: Are a.
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  Speaker 6: Right even at a I want to be a high
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  Speaker 6: he want to be a whole you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: But we're guaranteed human here on the Breakfast Club. So
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  Speaker 4: we are here.
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  Speaker 6: Yes we are not really, but we are, that's right.
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  Speaker 6: But we got a great show for you, that's right.
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  Speaker 3: First and foremost Black will be joining us this morning.
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  Speaker 6: R and B single Black, you got a new album
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  Speaker 6: out right. Love is the new gangster from Baltimore.
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  Speaker 5: He's from Baltimore. And then his clops, This cops supposed
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  Speaker 5: to be an old rapper out there.
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  Speaker 6: Really yep, what's his name? I mean, damn? But yees,
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  Speaker 6: Black will be here. He's new album Loving the New Gangster.
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  Speaker 6: We're gonna be talking to him. And also from the
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  Speaker 6: Black Mother Womb podcast, man, Miss Jennifer Arnie will be here.
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  Speaker 6: Jennifer Arnice from the Black Mother Womb podcast will be
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  Speaker 6: joining us. She joining us. She is a spiritual life
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  Speaker 6: coach for Heart Center to Women. She won the Black
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  Speaker 6: Effect Picture Podcast Festival a couple of years ago and
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  Speaker 6: we launched her podcast, The Black Mother Womn. We've been
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  Speaker 6: having a lot of conversations up here about father wounds
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  Speaker 6: and mother wounds. We had you know, your your baby
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  Speaker 6: father roam up here.
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely yes, and he'll need some help with that.
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  Speaker 6: He has a mother wound. So Jennifer will be here
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  Speaker 6: to discuss mother wounds this morning.
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  Speaker 3: That's right.
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  Speaker 4: And our guy.
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  Speaker 6: Jake Steinfelder be joining us today as well. He's launched
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  Speaker 6: Body by Jake Radio with iHeart, so he'll be joining
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  Speaker 6: us this morning too.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's get the show crack and you
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  Speaker 2: could get it off your chest. Eight hundred five eighty
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  Speaker 2: five one five.
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  Speaker 3: It's the Breakfast Slugle morning Ray right, Ray Yo, Charla
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  Speaker 3: Mack Jasey, what up are we lying?
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  Speaker 4: This is your time? To get it off your chest.
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  Speaker 3: I got an indoor pool pool.
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  Speaker 4: We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 8: Get on the phone right now.
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  Speaker 3: He'll tell you what it is. We like, Hello, who's this?
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  Speaker 9: Hello?
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  Speaker 10: Hi?
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  Speaker 9: Hello, what's up this breakfast club? This call from Chicago?
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  Speaker 3: What's up?
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  Speaker 4: Call Cargo? What's happening?
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  Speaker 3: Get it off your chest?
• 2:32
  Speaker 11: Yeah, man, I got a few things I wanted to
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  Speaker 11: say to y'all. First, jub I love the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 11: I've been listening for about five years.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you.
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  Speaker 9: I six years, says COVID.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you.
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  Speaker 8: And I love what y'all do for community.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you, brother, thank you.
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  Speaker 9: Thing is Spotify. Y'all got to tell him about editing. Man,
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  Speaker 9: we can't hear no music.
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  Speaker 4: What you mean no music?
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  Speaker 12: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: And where are you listening?
• 2:51
  Speaker 4: He says.
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  Speaker 9: I listened to Spotify. I listen to y'all on Spotify.
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  Speaker 4: You listen to the podcast on Spotify? You listen to that?
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  Speaker 13: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: The podcast?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: The podcast don't have music commercials?
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  Speaker 11: Brother, Okay, cool? Well, can y'all tell them on Friday?
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  Speaker 11: Let us hear the new music knowledge be putting out.
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  Speaker 4: Oh okay, that's a good thing. But I think that
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  Speaker 4: it's a licens and things.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what. Yeah, I think that's the problem, your licensing.
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  Speaker 2: But you can listen on I think we it's on
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  Speaker 2: Netflix in it.
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  Speaker 6: But you can also listen to the titles of the
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  Speaker 6: songs that knowledge post and then go look them up
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  Speaker 6: yourself on Spotify.
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  Speaker 3: That's true.
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  Speaker 4: Good point, Charlie Man, Yes, sir, it's just about all right.
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  Speaker 9: The last thing though, this is very important though. Yesterday
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  Speaker 9: we had my youngest daughter, Riven Pennon.
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  Speaker 11: She's fourteen, about to graduate eighth grade. Man, and this
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  Speaker 11: kid has been getting straight as since the first grade.
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  Speaker 9: And yesterday she was awarded a valedictorian.
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  Speaker 4: Man. Wow, I want to give a shout out to.
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  Speaker 9: I am my huff. You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: What's her name?
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  Speaker 11: The beautiful Yeah real Marshall, congratulations, appreciate it.
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  Speaker 9: Thank y'all.
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  Speaker 11: Man, keep doing what y'all doing, and I'm gonna keep listening.
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  Speaker 11: Y'all help me out a lot with you know, different
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  Speaker 11: things that I'll be listening to. The interviews Joab, you
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  Speaker 11: haven't and just man, keep going bropreiate you.
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  Speaker 6: I'll tell you one thing. It ain't nothing like watching
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  Speaker 6: your kids achieve things.
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  Speaker 3: Boy.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, damn Lord, have mercy.
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  Speaker 3: Hello, who's this Hey?
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  Speaker 7: It's same man.
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  Speaker 3: What's up brother? Get off your chest?
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  Speaker 8: What's up brother?
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  Speaker 4: Hey Man?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I took it so light on that Michael Michael
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  Speaker 7: Jackie movie that that movie was no good man.
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  Speaker 5: Michael Jackie.
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  Speaker 3: You mean Michael the movie.
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  Speaker 6: That's why you ain't like it because you saw it
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  Speaker 6: on TV. You saw the Michael Jackie. You saw the
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  Speaker 6: Michael Jackie movie on TV, and you didn't like it.
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  Speaker 6: That's what we ain't see Michael Jackie. We saw Michael.
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  Speaker 7: I see Michael Jackie. I'm gonna talk about the limitsis
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  Speaker 7: to all these shows it's represented black people.
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  Speaker 3: Well, what you didn't like about The Nemesis because you know,
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  Speaker 3: some people loved it. They loved these lines he can't act.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think they missed.
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  Speaker 3: Some people just feel like he.
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  Speaker 7: Can't It ain't acting. I'm worried about more, like they
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  Speaker 7: just keep portraying black people robbing each other, killing each other,
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  Speaker 7: and like it ain't It ain't no other strips in
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  Speaker 7: the world to be pulling from, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 7: Like the stories about Marcus Garvey. I ain't never seen
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  Speaker 7: a Marcus Garvey movie, but I tell my sons about
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  Speaker 7: them all the time.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, you want to know a good money, You want
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  Speaker 6: to know a good movie to take your son to go?
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  Speaker 4: Take them to see One Spoon of Chocolate.
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  Speaker 7: Man.
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  Speaker 4: I keep telling y'all chocolate.
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  Speaker 7: Man, I'm gonna tell you about that. I'm gonna tell
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  Speaker 7: you about that movie. I'll stay in city. They play
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  Speaker 7: that movie one time at ten fifteen of a movie
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  Speaker 7: theater I ain't never heard of.
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  Speaker 8: Bro.
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  Speaker 6: That is if you want your son to see a
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  Speaker 6: movie that's like revolutionary and black people doing some revolutionary things.
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  Speaker 4: One spoon and Chocolate, I got it.
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  Speaker 7: Hey, I'll set the man.
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  Speaker 8: I got one more.
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  Speaker 7: I got an idea for y'all too, Like y'all own Netflix. No,
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  Speaker 7: don't be doing like movie not on it.
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  Speaker 4: But y'all on it.
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  Speaker 14: Oh okay, Yeah, so y'all should be doing like movie reviews,
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  Speaker 14: you know, like just to be watching movies.
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  Speaker 4: You can just tell them about the movie.
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  Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, Because look, they don't have that,
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  Speaker 7: Roger to Ebert, No more, y'all can be the black
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  Speaker 7: you know, Roger.
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  Speaker 3: That's a good idea.
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  Speaker 7: Like, I got a lot of ideas. I'm a program
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  Speaker 7: directing myself.
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  Speaker 13: But oh.
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  Speaker 4: We're at what station?
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  Speaker 7: No, No, I got a mental health agent health agency.
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  Speaker 5: He's director for mental health case.
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  Speaker 6: You know, I got my I'm doing the mental health
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  Speaker 6: I'm doing my mental health taxtball again this year. Man
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  Speaker 6: On on October tenth, World Mental Health Day in Newark,
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  Speaker 6: New Jersey? Where is that in Newark, New Jersey?
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  Speaker 4: To Joe and Diane Bloom Community Center.
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  Speaker 7: All right, man, I gotta shout out my wife who
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  Speaker 7: I could have did that?
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  Speaker 3: Like, yeah, definite should have did that first, dad, brother, shout.
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  Speaker 7: Out, shout out the shout out to de Nie Griffon
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  Speaker 7: Man shear realtor out of Phoenix. Been with her sixteen years.
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  Speaker 7: You know it's gonna be with her forever. But like
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  Speaker 7: how y'all been doing, We've been been through everything that
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  Speaker 7: y'all been through.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, the movie.
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  Speaker 6: I love Phoenix, Man, Phoenix is a great place. Phoenix,
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  Speaker 6: Scott's Deal is a great place for your min to health.
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  Speaker 6: Like if you if you're a person that you know
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  Speaker 6: you want to you want to unplug for a minute
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  Speaker 6: and disconnecting. You don't want to go that far. Phoenix,
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  Speaker 6: Scottsdale is a great area.
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  Speaker 2: Man, I gotta go to Phoenix for my daughter's uh.
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  Speaker 2: I think that one of their last dancing conventions is
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  Speaker 2: in Phoenix. I'm a super duper excited man.
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  Speaker 4: I love it.
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  Speaker 6: I went out there for the women's Final four. It's
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  Speaker 6: I love Phoenix, Scottsdale.
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  Speaker 2: Get it off your chest eight hundred five eight five
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  Speaker 4: Your mad or bless. We want to hear from you
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  Speaker 8: So I want to talk to Charlemagne about his don't
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  Speaker 8: play gay bill.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, let's talk about it because nobody respects it up.
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  Speaker 8: Here, right, Charlemagne, we need the gay Joe.
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  Speaker 4: You don't want to build a past.
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  Speaker 15: Yes, yes, no, I don't want it to pass.
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  Speaker 3: I missed the GAJA man. You don't listen to the show.
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  Speaker 3: This guy has a gay Joe me every morning.
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  Speaker 4: That is not true. No envy is just yeah.
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  Speaker 7: I'm not I respect you, Charlotte made it used to
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  Speaker 7: be so funny.
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  Speaker 10: Used to come so hard at mvy.
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  Speaker 3: It was.
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  Speaker 4: Directed any type of come towards envy.
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  Speaker 16: Man.
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  Speaker 4: Man, it wasn't hard in any way. Man.
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  Speaker 2: Yesterday I'm walking in the hall and this guy goes
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  Speaker 2: nice print in your gray sweatpants and like say that
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't stop.
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  Speaker 4: That didn't happen.
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  Speaker 12: To fall.
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  Speaker 4: That didn't happen, man, that didn't happen.
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  Speaker 17: But we'll keep that on the air.
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  Speaker 4: We'll try.
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  Speaker 3: No, thank you so much. Man.
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  Speaker 6: Is fire because I cannot stay. I hate being at
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  Speaker 6: got a nice event, you should have like a luxury bathroom, like.
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  Speaker 4: Not a the party.
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  Speaker 15: And they have a c they have heat, they have bluetooth, the.
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  Speaker 4: I need to see that.
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  Speaker 6: And you you said something that is so important that
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  Speaker 6: you don't understand what I go into a public restaurant,
• 9:21
  Speaker 6: how just scared I am to see somebody else's bookie.
• 9:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, booty boody, are you looking for?
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  Speaker 15: It's called Royal Relief d m B.
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  Speaker 3: We're based on County and Maryland.
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  Speaker 4: I'm looking up that up right now. That sound thank
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  Speaker 3: Get it off your chest. Eight hundred five eight five
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  Speaker 3: one oh five one. If you need to vin hit
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  Speaker 3: us up now. It's the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 2: Come morning morning everybody. It's dj es Hilarious, Charlamage to God.
• 9:51
  Speaker 2: We are the Breakfast Club. Now you're just joining us.
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  Speaker 2: We're talking about a meme that was kind of with
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  Speaker 2: viral that was all over social media the last couple
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  Speaker 2: of days, and the question was as a man, and
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  Speaker 2: why are you going to the Chris Brown in Usher concert?
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  Speaker 6: Now you know, I was born in nineteen hundred and
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  Speaker 6: seventy eight, so I saw that meme and the first
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  Speaker 6: thing I thought was I would be going to the
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  Speaker 6: Chris Brown and Usher concert if I was a man,
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  Speaker 6: because I know all the women are going to be there, yes,
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  Speaker 6: and to me that I.
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  Speaker 4: Was just logic, right.
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  Speaker 6: But then Nbu brought up a good point. You said, well,
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  Speaker 6: a lot of this generation don't like.
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  Speaker 2: Girls, correct, right, And I see it all the time
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  Speaker 2: when I DJ, I see guys dancing with each other,
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  Speaker 2: like guys being a section with each other and our
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  Speaker 2: generation in the gate party. So that makes I do
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  Speaker 2: not DJ any. I don't have a problem with it.
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  Speaker 2: That's what money money, because the game got it didn't matter.
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  Speaker 4: But what's the section in the gay club? If you IVP.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, Table sixty nine is the one I would
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  Speaker 2: say that you would see, you know, guys and girls
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  Speaker 2: dancing together when I used to DJ.
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  Speaker 3: Now it's more split.
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  Speaker 2: You see girls in the section by themselves, yes, and
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  Speaker 2: you see fellas in the section.
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  Speaker 4: It's the weirdest thing.
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  Speaker 3: But I ain't got nothing weird this.
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  Speaker 5: It is weird because it just used to be intermingling.
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  Speaker 17: It used to be like the guys that the girls even,
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  Speaker 17: you know, and that was with gay people and straight
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  Speaker 17: people that everybody used to congregate together.
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  Speaker 6: It's not weird, it's just different because you're used to
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  Speaker 6: seeing something else in a different era.
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  Speaker 3: Like people don't like to talk to each other, they
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  Speaker 3: don't like to dance with the jazz.
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  Speaker 5: Everybody on their phones and little huddles. It's like, yo,
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  Speaker 5: y'all could have did this in the basement, correct, So.
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  Speaker 6: To me, like I said to me when I look
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  Speaker 6: at the me and it was very cut and dry
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  Speaker 6: right to me. I'm just like, yo, you go to
• 11:19
  Speaker 6: the Usher Chris Brown concert because you know all of
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  Speaker 6: the girls are gonna be there.
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  Speaker 4: As a man, but it might be something different in
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  Speaker 4: this generation.
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  Speaker 5: But you could also be a fan of their music
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  Speaker 5: as a man.
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  Speaker 3: What do you mean, Like, if I'm a fan of music,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going by myself, Like I'm talking about wife.
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  Speaker 3: Say that, man, what you're doing on Friday? Let's go
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  Speaker 3: see a show now?
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  Speaker 6: Not only are you taking your wife, if you're a
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  Speaker 6: fan of their music as a man, you might just
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  Speaker 6: be taking your boot your boo.
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  Speaker 4: Might be another man. You know, we're in a different.
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  Speaker 3: Area taking your boos to see Usher. That's and Chris Brown.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, but let's go to the phone lines eight hundred
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  Speaker 2: five eighty five one oh five to one.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, who do you have online?
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  Speaker 8: Mister b MD twenty twenty four how you feeling very hilaria?
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  Speaker 4: Their name got too much going on, bro mister B
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  Speaker 4: twenty four to.
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  Speaker 8: B MD twenty saying, some brothers making dollars. Charla Man,
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  Speaker 8: I got five books waiting for you, Charla Man. I'm
• 12:11
  Speaker 8: calling to say that I'm from Baltimore, Jess, I got
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  Speaker 8: videos of me and you, but I'm calling.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 8: What when she first started her little rom hear rome
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  Speaker 8: was in it? You feel me?
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  Speaker 4: Wow?
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  Speaker 8: Her little man had this little puppy o dum Man.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, yes, that's what.
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  Speaker 8: I'm calling to say that I would definitely go see
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  Speaker 8: Ushering Chris Brown as a grown.
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  Speaker 7: Man, just for the woman, you know, and and to make.
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  Speaker 8: Sure that, yeah, everybody had fun. Man, Chris Brown. We
• 12:44
  Speaker 8: grew up off of that, right.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: The music, the music is jamming, and all the women
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  Speaker 6: gonna be there. That's why couldn't even understand why that
• 12:50
  Speaker 6: dude was trying to shame people with that. Mean, as
• 12:52
  Speaker 6: a man, what would you be going to an usher
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  Speaker 6: Chris Brown show for? Because all the women gonna be there?
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  Speaker 5: That's crazy?
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  Speaker 4: Hello, who's this?
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  Speaker 3: You know we're talking about the actually got through? Talk
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  Speaker 3: to us? What's your thoughts? Brother?
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  Speaker 8: All right.
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  Speaker 14: First of who I want to started by saying, I'm
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  Speaker 14: a married man with full kids.
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  Speaker 8: My wife is saying means to the answer words.
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  Speaker 7: I go to every concert, so there's nothing wrong with it.
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  Speaker 14: But I got a question, though, what's the difference between
• 13:19
  Speaker 14: us and men going to the concert and men going
• 13:20
  Speaker 14: to watch bastionball.
• 13:21
  Speaker 3: Games byselves our wives.
• 13:23
  Speaker 14: I can go on to the second, I mean about yourself.
• 13:28
  Speaker 6: I can tell you why because when they hear Ushering
• 13:30
  Speaker 6: and Chris Brown's music, they think love songs and romance rate,
• 13:33
  Speaker 6: and so they think we They think, for whatever reason,
• 13:35
  Speaker 6: they think men don't have that side to them.
• 13:37
  Speaker 14: Right, I'm thirty six years old, Usher Brown and in
• 13:42
  Speaker 14: trade soon they paid by leg you know what?
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: Tho nothing mean?
• 13:46
  Speaker 8: Why not watch?
• 13:47
  Speaker 16: You know what?
• 13:48
  Speaker 3: You you kind of right.
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you why because when New Audition was
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: performing in New Orleans, Gear was with me and I went.
• 13:54
  Speaker 17: You but you and you was giving it up, singing
• 13:56
  Speaker 17: every song, dig clutching your pearls.
• 13:59
  Speaker 3: I did because but.
• 14:01
  Speaker 5: They did exactly.
• 14:03
  Speaker 3: I guess.
• 14:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you like the music, you can go, that's right.
• 14:06
  Speaker 4: You like not a big deal, got a big deal
• 14:08
  Speaker 4: at all.
• 14:09
  Speaker 14: When Chris Brown's in Madison Square Bay in in in Connecticut.
• 14:14
  Speaker 7: Last year, I went both talks.
• 14:17
  Speaker 4: Okay, that's what's about it.
• 14:20
  Speaker 14: Is, and help me get my tickets, me get my hotel.
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: This h already knows for the cross has gone up
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: by yourself.
• 14:28
  Speaker 4: Yes, that's question.
• 14:29
  Speaker 5: And he's a Chris Brown fan.
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: And he's saying, if you haven't want a.
• 14:33
  Speaker 14: Fan, I'm too old to stay on my pants.
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: Are you're a fan?
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 14:38
  Speaker 17: Y'all want to go to basketball games and watch sweaty
• 14:42
  Speaker 17: old fall all on each other and all that.
• 14:44
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna ask you a question, and you know, and
• 14:47
  Speaker 6: you know God watching you. But also no black men,
• 14:49
  Speaker 6: no cheap did your side chick meet you down there?
• 14:51
  Speaker 8: Oh my god, my god, I'll have no chick. I've
• 14:54
  Speaker 8: been married for too long for that.
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: Legends exactly, exactly a legend. My brother.
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: Can I ask a question?
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: Why you.
• 15:01
  Speaker 5: She had the kids? He said, white wife didn't go
• 15:03
  Speaker 5: with you to Connecticut?
• 15:04
  Speaker 14: Yeah, she went. She went some problem with me, but
• 15:07
  Speaker 14: she don't like crowds and all.
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: Up, I get it.
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: That's sure. They don't like crowds.
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: That's not weird, y'all that your wife send you to
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: the usher concert.
• 15:15
  Speaker 6: No, not if you want to go by yourself. If
• 15:18
  Speaker 6: he wanted to go, I can't even go by yourself.
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: I don't feel weird to nobody.
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: No, they don't.
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: It's a little unusual, but it's like it's not the
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: water wife coaches like I'm coming, let's she said she
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: don't like crowds.
• 15:30
  Speaker 6: He didn't want to go. There's nothing wrong with doing
• 15:32
  Speaker 6: things by yourself. There's the people that go to movies
• 15:34
  Speaker 6: by themself. They go eat yeah, by theyself, they go
• 15:37
  Speaker 6: to they go to contracts by themselves.
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: Wrong with that.
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: I'm just not going to concert by myself by myself.
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: Who am I talking to before?
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: I'm singing you in there.
• 15:45
  Speaker 6: With twenty thousand other people singing the same song, you
• 15:47
  Speaker 6: dumb ass.
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: I'm sick of you. This the same hey yo?
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like when I go see whole by myself?
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: Yes, definitely would, Yes, ma'am, Yes she would.
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: I'm not somebody gotta come with me.
• 15:59
  Speaker 17: It's just like you like that girl. I bet he
• 16:02
  Speaker 17: about to do this, like you want to drink five?
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: Drop myself now if you're just joining us?
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: Were asking eight on drink five eight five one oh
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: five one as a man, They were asking, why are
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: you going to the Chris Brown and Usher concert myself?
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm taking my wife, I'm taking my daughters,
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: I'm taking you know, I'm taking my fami because they want.
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: To see it.
• 16:23
  Speaker 6: Whoever made that meme thought that they ate what that meme?
• 16:26
  Speaker 6: What that meme is so corny? And the reason is
• 16:29
  Speaker 6: so corny because as soon as I saw that, as
• 16:31
  Speaker 6: a man, why would you be going to the Usher
• 16:34
  Speaker 6: Chris Brown concert number one? I could like the music
• 16:36
  Speaker 6: number two, that's where all the women are gonna be at.
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
• 16:40
  Speaker 6: But as you pointed out, V, there's a lot of
• 16:42
  Speaker 6: people in the generation who don't like women correct, So
• 16:45
  Speaker 6: to them that means might be since.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: Right, we have Sasha on the line, Sasha, good morning morning.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: How you feeling, Sasha?
• 16:53
  Speaker 15: Very well? How about it?
• 16:54
  Speaker 7: Then?
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: I'm good? Now did you see the memeo? You probably,
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you've seen the meme or not.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: And they were asking, as a man, why would you
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: go to a Chris Bound and Usher concept, what are
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: your thoughts on it?
• 17:02
  Speaker 15: I think you could go for whatever reason. But what
• 17:05
  Speaker 15: today's generation, the younger ones, you know, and they let
• 17:10
  Speaker 15: you say one to be a forty seven. It's just
• 17:12
  Speaker 15: so much go wrong with both of them. I just
• 17:15
  Speaker 15: think they're going one all the girls are there, and
• 17:19
  Speaker 15: two all the guys that they are also, So I said,
• 17:23
  Speaker 15: like a tri sexual or a B and C. They're
• 17:27
  Speaker 15: going there to see what they can see.
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: You know, you sound like our good friend Emma Greed.
• 17:33
  Speaker 6: I thought you was about to say, Actually, I think
• 17:35
  Speaker 6: everyone should watch the concert from home.
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: Okay, you won't. You won't enjoy the experience if you
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: don't watch it from home.
• 17:42
  Speaker 15: No, no, no, I think you should go there. And
• 17:44
  Speaker 15: it's just everything's happening today with sexuality.
• 17:47
  Speaker 9: So they're going to see you have.
• 17:49
  Speaker 15: Two vicom in there that both pretty woozy and woldy.
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: So I think what you're simply what you're simply saying
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: is if you like people and you like to socialize,
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: Usher and Chris Brown concert is a great place to
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: be because if they come to your city, that's probably
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: gonna be the only thing moving in town that night.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: That's what she said. Hello, who's this?
• 18:10
  Speaker 12: What's going on?
• 18:10
  Speaker 8: To Ja from Baltimore?
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: Hey?
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: Jay, what's up here? Talk tou? What's your thoughts?
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: Brother?
• 18:14
  Speaker 9: Yeo, I'm definitely going to the concert, babe. Okay, might
• 18:17
  Speaker 9: go to Atlanta, might go to the one in New York,
• 18:19
  Speaker 9: might go to the one Inton. But I'm going to
• 18:22
  Speaker 9: one of them concerts.
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: You're going by yourself. Absolutely, I don't see a problem
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: with it.
• 18:27
  Speaker 8: It's gonna be plenty of women.
• 18:28
  Speaker 9: Nare you mean why there's plenty of women.
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: Gonna be there.
• 18:30
  Speaker 9: I'm even here with you, Trumpthy.
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: That's what I say.
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: That's why, Okay, I'm glad to know that there's still
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: a lot of people who just had the same mindset
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: I had. And when I saw the meaning, that's the
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: first thing I thought, I want to be with all
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: the women. Are you remember I used to promote parties
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: back in the day, Right, you want a bunch of
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: women at the party.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: You were more women than God.
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: That's why I used to let girls in free before eleven,
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: Let girls in free before eleven, because you got a
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: bunch of girls in there.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: The guys gonna be whatever, they paying whatever to see
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: all them ladies. Absolutely, Hello, who's this, Lucky Lucky?
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: What's up? Talk to us?
• 18:59
  Speaker 8: Lucky man?
• 19:00
  Speaker 18: And I will go to the Chris Brown concert by myself.
• 19:05
  Speaker 18: But I have other stipulations of this situation because of
• 19:08
  Speaker 18: my daughter and my wife is huge.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: Chris Brown saying.
• 19:15
  Speaker 8: Chris Brown friend too, because you know he's from my era.
• 19:19
  Speaker 8: I grew up watching him and everything. But yeah, otherwise
• 19:26
  Speaker 8: I would just go to take my wife and my daughter.
• 19:29
  Speaker 8: But just going by myself, I probably would go. But
• 19:34
  Speaker 8: to save me a couple of dollars, I might as
• 19:36
  Speaker 8: well take my work man.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Okay, But but I will say this though, and I
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: thought about it when I when I'm talking.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: Out loud, I thought about it.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: But but New Addition was performing the New Orleans bro
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: and me and my manager was out there working.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: I'll say you, I want to go see new auditions.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: And I went and I didn't have my wife with me,
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: and I ain't feel funny because I was singing all
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: the songs, so I can't even say that.
• 19:57
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's true.
• 19:59
  Speaker 18: And the I used to work at the same park,
• 20:03
  Speaker 18: and I thought everybody conferred, So if I didn't want
• 20:07
  Speaker 18: to be there, I had to.
• 20:07
  Speaker 8: Be there because I was working there.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Right, I got you, brother, thank you? What's the morale
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: of the story. And by the way, just ran to
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: the bathroom shadow diariea pool.
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the moral of the story is man, stop trying
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: to shame people for no goddamn reason asking dumb ass questions.
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: As a grown man, why would you go to an
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: usher and Chris Brown Concert? Actually asking that question says
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: more about you than it does about the people who
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: are one secure enough to go by theyself as men
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: if they want to, and two going by theyself because
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: they know all the ladies gonna be there. I want
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: to know why your punk cast don't want to be
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: where all the women at?
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: How about that?
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: All right?
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: It's the breakfast Club, Good morning morning. Everybody is the
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: j env just hilarious. Charlamagne the guy. We are the
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: breakfast Club, La La Ross here as well. We got
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: a special guest.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: In the building. Yes, indeed got the brother Black. How
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: are you feeling, I'm feeling good. Welcome. This is the
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: first time there, right, yes.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: First time welcome.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: Welcome.
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: Always been interested about your name? Okay, Like, why is
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: it spelled with a sixth and not a.
• 21:05
  Speaker 10: B recurrent number in my life? Favorite number life path number.
• 21:09
  Speaker 10: Born in June. I grew up in zone six, so
• 21:12
  Speaker 10: it was like favorite number. My uniform growing up. When
• 21:14
  Speaker 10: I was going outside, it was all black so I
• 21:16
  Speaker 10: just kind of put it together. Had the same name
• 21:17
  Speaker 10: since middle school?
• 21:18
  Speaker 19: You was you with you a cancer? What's what's the day?
• 21:23
  Speaker 19: Let me yes, yes June sixteen?
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: Wow, yes you lion Google?
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: Damn?
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: How did you?
• 21:39
  Speaker 20: What made you guess that? By the five of the
• 21:41
  Speaker 20: music cancer, I get it.
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: I can tell whether somebody's July cancer Junie cancer.
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: Around my day, which is June twenty ninth, was a factory.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: I was like, okay, that.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: Is I believe.
• 21:54
  Speaker 17: I don't and you always say you Claire Avon was yes.
• 22:00
  Speaker 21: Is it more emotions in the later June canters.
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: Or very much what the June and July?
• 22:06
  Speaker 6: I could just tell, like y'all will say, I think
• 22:08
  Speaker 6: June cancers are a little more emotionally intelligent person.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: And that's what I think.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's let's stuff from be if you I don't mind.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: I just want to know how you got into music
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: originally from Maryland, Baltimore. Baltimore, you got right out of there.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: That's got right out of there. And then so what
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: got you into music?
• 22:25
  Speaker 10: My dad is a rapper, was a rapper, so my
• 22:28
  Speaker 10: first introduction of music was him just being in the studio.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: What was his rapp name Rik Flow, Ricardo Flow Flo
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: from Baltimore.
• 22:35
  Speaker 13: From Baltimore, you know, from Baltimore.
• 22:36
  Speaker 22: No, And I don't like how you said you got
• 22:38
  Speaker 22: right out of there too, Like he was there for
• 22:40
  Speaker 22: a little bit, you know what I mean?
• 22:41
  Speaker 13: You know, yeah, it wasn't at my time, but he.
• 22:46
  Speaker 12: But he, uh, he.
• 22:48
  Speaker 10: Wasn't like on the regular Baltimore rap scene. He kind
• 22:51
  Speaker 10: of grew into Christian rap, so he I watched him
• 22:53
  Speaker 10: just development that way. But my inspiration from it, I
• 22:56
  Speaker 10: felt like was a little more self sufficient. Like at
• 22:59
  Speaker 10: the point where you know, they separated my mom and
• 23:01
  Speaker 10: my dad, I spent a lot of time in my room,
• 23:03
  Speaker 10: a lot of time on the computer, and it just
• 23:05
  Speaker 10: kind of grew from poetry and elementary school to battle
• 23:08
  Speaker 10: rap in middle school, to song right in high school
• 23:12
  Speaker 10: and then yeah, just kept on.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: Was the separation? What made you you say you stayed
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: in your room by yourself a lot with that separation.
• 23:18
  Speaker 13: I didn't care that much like.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: And dad together.
• 23:22
  Speaker 10: You see, two people just like y'all, y'all love each other,
• 23:25
  Speaker 10: but y'all don't like necessarily go together like that. And
• 23:27
  Speaker 10: I would rather just be a healthy situation than something
• 23:30
  Speaker 10: where two people are stressed out. So by the time
• 23:32
  Speaker 10: they told us and like broke the news, we were like,
• 23:34
  Speaker 10: of course, y'all get into wors like you.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Knew already, like mom don't really messed with dad, Dad
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: don't really mess.
• 23:40
  Speaker 10: But now they're cool, like they love each other. They
• 23:41
  Speaker 10: could be in the same room, and I think it
• 23:43
  Speaker 10: was just necessary. Sometimes you don't have to be with
• 23:45
  Speaker 10: the person that you have kids with.
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: I've heard people describing I want the ladies in the room,
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: chiming on this. I've heard people describe your music is
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: toxic and.
• 23:51
  Speaker 20: Honest, yes, but I think you save yourself from us
• 23:59
  Speaker 20: leaning too much on the toxic because you always come
• 24:01
  Speaker 20: back around to be accountable of like this is what
• 24:04
  Speaker 20: I was doing, and that's very prevalent on this project.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah too.
• 24:08
  Speaker 10: Yeah, it was a maturity thing. Like the first album
• 24:11
  Speaker 10: I would say was more on the side of like
• 24:13
  Speaker 10: still figuring out accountability. It was just like you lazy
• 24:16
  Speaker 10: and I don't like this and we don't go together,
• 24:18
  Speaker 10: and you did this to me. And as the projects
• 24:20
  Speaker 10: have like kind of progressed, it's like I'm seeing more
• 24:22
  Speaker 10: and more of like what I did and what I
• 24:24
  Speaker 10: didn't do. It's like, Okay, you had a lot to
• 24:26
  Speaker 10: work on. You were in denial about a lot, you
• 24:28
  Speaker 10: were deflecting a lot, and you just didn't have it
• 24:31
  Speaker 10: figured out like the way you might have thought you
• 24:32
  Speaker 10: had it figured out.
• 24:33
  Speaker 20: At the moment on bird Flu you talk about like
• 24:37
  Speaker 20: your evolution from a boy to a man? Right, And
• 24:39
  Speaker 20: I saw you on Effective immediately with Gena Views and
• 24:41
  Speaker 20: DJ Head talking about how you are in your relationship
• 24:44
  Speaker 20: now versus how you were in your old relationship. What
• 24:47
  Speaker 20: was the like come to Jesus moment for you to
• 24:48
  Speaker 20: be like, ah, it's me, I'm messing up here.
• 24:51
  Speaker 10: Learning the same lesson over and over and over and over.
• 24:55
  Speaker 10: It could be something as simple as like communication issues
• 24:57
  Speaker 10: like me when I was going through my career, in
• 25:00
  Speaker 10: my life changing and having a kid, and like just
• 25:02
  Speaker 10: dealing with everything that I have to deal with being
• 25:04
  Speaker 10: a provider, Like I just got in my head about
• 25:06
  Speaker 10: it and I would have moments where it would be
• 25:09
  Speaker 10: a conversation that I need to talk about and I
• 25:11
  Speaker 10: would just be like, you know, today's not a good day.
• 25:12
  Speaker 13: Let me wait till tomorrow.
• 25:13
  Speaker 10: And then tomorrow comes, You're like, I don't want to
• 25:15
  Speaker 10: run breakfast, let me just wait till dinner, and then
• 25:17
  Speaker 10: then it coming. You're just like you, and you put
• 25:19
  Speaker 10: it off until it like continues to grow into a
• 25:21
  Speaker 10: bigger issue, and then when somebody else has to bring
• 25:22
  Speaker 10: it up, it's just like I lost. Now, like I can't,
• 25:25
  Speaker 10: I can't win the argument.
• 25:26
  Speaker 13: I can't. The battle's lost.
• 25:28
  Speaker 10: So I think having to learn that lesson, like I
• 25:31
  Speaker 10: kid you not maybe one hundred plus times, and dealing
• 25:35
  Speaker 10: with somebody who's sharp and aware and patient, but still
• 25:39
  Speaker 10: it's just like gonna call me out any time they
• 25:41
  Speaker 10: need to call me out. That those were my moments
• 25:43
  Speaker 10: of just like, if you don't get it together, bro,
• 25:44
  Speaker 10: you're gonna lose everything you worked for.
• 25:47
  Speaker 13: And for me, that was just a family.
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: As your therapist ever told you how not to even
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: bring it up at all? What you mean just in general,
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: like when you want to how you said you was
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: waiting to breakfast dinner, Like what about not bringing it
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: up at all?
• 26:00
  Speaker 13: That's that's my that was my forte unfortunately for a while.
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: And oh you had, Okay, I get it. You had
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: because you weren't saying yeah, yeah, yeah, I had to
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: shut it up.
• 26:10
  Speaker 13: Oh yeah, no, that's that wasn't me.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't have no issue with that.
• 26:15
  Speaker 10: It was way opposite for me, Like again, I can
• 26:17
  Speaker 10: just be I can really be in my head about
• 26:19
  Speaker 10: a situation and think that I'm figuring it out or
• 26:21
  Speaker 10: think that I'm working towards it, and then yeah, next thing,
• 26:24
  Speaker 10: you know, six months later and she's just like, well,
• 26:27
  Speaker 10: what happened on this day when you wasn't feeling this
• 26:28
  Speaker 10: way and you didn't say this to me, And like
• 26:31
  Speaker 10: now I know it's something.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: But it deflecting was the fact that you just did
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: not want the beef, the wall.
• 26:37
  Speaker 10: It's a little bit of everything, Like I was definitely
• 26:40
  Speaker 10: deflecting a lot, Like especially when you are kind of
• 26:44
  Speaker 10: like the head and most of your situations like the
• 26:46
  Speaker 10: leader or the boss or whatever, like it's it's natural
• 26:49
  Speaker 10: to feel like I have everything under control. And when
• 26:51
  Speaker 10: somebody can like see you and say, you know, I
• 26:54
  Speaker 10: see you slipping right there, or that person ain't good
• 26:56
  Speaker 10: for you, or this situation, the situation ain't right, it
• 26:59
  Speaker 10: was almost like a reflex for me to just be like,
• 27:01
  Speaker 10: what are you talking about? Like I know this person
• 27:03
  Speaker 10: since middle school, Like they will never have my worse
• 27:05
  Speaker 10: interests at harder, Like you could trust me versus listening
• 27:08
  Speaker 10: to somebody who in the moment mighta knew more than I.
• 27:10
  Speaker 17: Knew why the name love is the new gangster, And
• 27:16
  Speaker 17: I agree, Yeah, but like I want to hear your.
• 27:18
  Speaker 13: Reason, it's not a new concept. It's not new under
• 27:20
  Speaker 13: the sign.
• 27:21
  Speaker 10: I feel like we've heard it a lot growing up,
• 27:23
  Speaker 10: and I think it's just nice to reiterate that love
• 27:25
  Speaker 10: can be at the core of everything that we do.
• 27:28
  Speaker 10: We grow up learning that certain things against it, but
• 27:31
  Speaker 10: as you mature, you know, taking care of your family,
• 27:33
  Speaker 10: being there for your folks, having hard conversations, being embedded
• 27:37
  Speaker 10: in your community, Like these are the things that you
• 27:39
  Speaker 10: grow to understand are actually cool and actually gangst it.
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it feels like you're saying emotional intelligence. It is
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: harder than pretending not to care at.
• 27:46
  Speaker 17: The point especial oare yep, I already have a couple
• 27:50
  Speaker 17: favorite bops or whatever. I like all that matters with
• 27:53
  Speaker 17: Leona Ezchak.
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: How did that come about? I thought that was very dope.
• 27:57
  Speaker 10: I've been in LA for a minute and I was
• 28:00
  Speaker 10: moving around, like working on this album, thinking like I
• 28:01
  Speaker 10: don't have a song that feels like I live out
• 28:04
  Speaker 10: here yet, so I just wanted to capture that feeling
• 28:07
  Speaker 10: of just being out on the West Coast. We started
• 28:09
  Speaker 10: in the studio with my homie Smiley, and yeah, we
• 28:13
  Speaker 10: just built like a baseline that felt really good. And
• 28:15
  Speaker 10: I did the first verse in a chorus and then
• 28:17
  Speaker 10: I stopped. And normally, like when I'm writing music, if
• 28:19
  Speaker 10: I stopped after the first verse and the chorus, that
• 28:21
  Speaker 10: just means like it's time for somebody else, yeah, to
• 28:24
  Speaker 10: come into the picture.
• 28:24
  Speaker 13: So I listened to it for a few weeks. I
• 28:26
  Speaker 13: thought of somebody from.
• 28:27
  Speaker 10: LA and track popped up because of the pop out,
• 28:30
  Speaker 10: just like the few moments that he've had where I
• 28:33
  Speaker 10: just I like his tone. I like the clarity and
• 28:37
  Speaker 10: how he raps. I like how regional it feels and
• 28:39
  Speaker 10: it sounds. And then at the end, yeah, leone, I
• 28:41
  Speaker 10: just needed that extra sauce on top.
• 28:43
  Speaker 17: And that's what it was, the extra sauce. And then
• 28:46
  Speaker 17: on the song Trauma, that also stuck out to me
• 28:48
  Speaker 17: as well. I love the message in it because you're
• 28:51
  Speaker 17: saying I can't let the trauma get to my daughter. Yeah,
• 28:54
  Speaker 17: but I also have trauma from my mom. I got
• 28:55
  Speaker 17: trauma from my dad, you know what I mean? Like,
• 28:58
  Speaker 17: are you was that song difficult to write, because it
• 29:02
  Speaker 17: is it is a beautiful message that you don't want
• 29:04
  Speaker 17: the trauma to get to your daughter, but at the
• 29:06
  Speaker 17: same time, it seems like you're still dealing with Yeah,
• 29:09
  Speaker 17: you also say you've been holding it.
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:12
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't think it was difficult to write, but
• 29:14
  Speaker 10: it was. It just it did take a moment for
• 29:18
  Speaker 10: me to like wrap my head around it.
• 29:20
  Speaker 8: Like that.
• 29:20
  Speaker 10: I wrote that song like right after my grandmother, my
• 29:22
  Speaker 10: mom's mom passed, and I was like the first time
• 29:25
  Speaker 10: that I went back to the studio and you just
• 29:28
  Speaker 10: had to like unpack, like to see my mom go
• 29:31
  Speaker 10: through that and to know like this ain't really something
• 29:33
  Speaker 10: that you get over. And so also like my own
• 29:35
  Speaker 10: relationship with my grandmother, it was just kind of strained
• 29:38
  Speaker 10: because I was in Atlanta, she was in Baltimore. She
• 29:41
  Speaker 10: has substance abuse, and just like things that she was
• 29:42
  Speaker 10: dealing with and struggling with. So trauma was just me
• 29:45
  Speaker 10: kind of looking at everything in my life and thinking
• 29:47
  Speaker 10: like I gotta be super responsible for my stuff because
• 29:51
  Speaker 10: if it leaks over into my kids, like that's that's
• 29:54
  Speaker 10: just unacceptable.
• 29:54
  Speaker 13: So it's just like work on it so that the
• 29:56
  Speaker 13: babies don't have to deal with it.
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: What do you think men still lie to themselves about
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: emotion h.
• 30:02
  Speaker 13: What do men lie to themselves about emotionally?
• 30:06
  Speaker 10: I think just the the premise of just like I'm good,
• 30:10
  Speaker 10: like everything is good, or everything is going to be
• 30:12
  Speaker 10: all right. I think sometimes it's nice to just like
• 30:14
  Speaker 10: admit when it's not good, and admit when you when
• 30:17
  Speaker 10: things are a little bit like more than you can handle,
• 30:20
  Speaker 10: and at least like say it to the folks that
• 30:22
  Speaker 10: are around you, because I do feel like sometimes we
• 30:24
  Speaker 10: have just like base level relationships with our guy friends,
• 30:27
  Speaker 10: and we can joke and be in a group chat
• 30:29
  Speaker 10: and we can like talk about anything, but when it
• 30:31
  Speaker 10: comes to like digging deep, you know, it's more just
• 30:34
  Speaker 10: like you know, I high that y'all later, or I'm
• 30:36
  Speaker 10: gonna be straight, or don't.
• 30:37
  Speaker 13: Worry about me.
• 30:38
  Speaker 10: So I think, you know, we also lie about the
• 30:40
  Speaker 10: relationships that we have with our guys, and there's just
• 30:45
  Speaker 10: a lot more room for growth in that area. And
• 30:47
  Speaker 10: this process of making this album, I felt like I
• 30:49
  Speaker 10: had to kind of reset and cut a lot of
• 30:51
  Speaker 10: folks off and just be like, look, you know, you
• 30:53
  Speaker 10: can live whatever life you want to live. But I
• 30:56
  Speaker 10: need folks that truly have my best interests at heart
• 30:58
  Speaker 10: and won't put me in no compromising situations and don't
• 31:01
  Speaker 10: have me like looking over my shoulder. So you know,
• 31:03
  Speaker 10: if we aren't maturing at the same right, then you know,
• 31:06
  Speaker 10: I love you, but I gotta go.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: It feels like you have it's easier for you to
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: talk through your music than to actually have those conversations
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: in person.
• 31:12
  Speaker 13: Yeah all the way.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: How are you getting through that now, because I mean
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: that'll ruin a relationship you can't have those conversations.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: And for myself, that was difficult because it's like to
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: face that you did.
• 31:23
  Speaker 10: It's difficult now that that was also my bread and butter.
• 31:26
  Speaker 10: I'm like, I could put it in the song all day.
• 31:27
  Speaker 10: I could write it, bridget chorus, h it, verse, it, whatever,
• 31:31
  Speaker 10: and I also would kind of developed this mindset of
• 31:33
  Speaker 10: thinking because I expressed it that somehow, you know, like
• 31:37
  Speaker 10: because I put it on wax, like you know what
• 31:39
  Speaker 10: I was going through or you know what I was thinking,
• 31:41
  Speaker 10: or you know what happened.
• 31:41
  Speaker 13: And it's just like I'm not checking for your.
• 31:44
  Speaker 10: Music to be listening or hitting clue, like just tell
• 31:47
  Speaker 10: me what's up like that could be about me, that
• 31:49
  Speaker 10: could be about anybody, and I just had to like
• 31:51
  Speaker 10: kind of break out of that where I'm just bearing
• 31:52
  Speaker 10: everything on track and then we kind of sitting and
• 31:55
  Speaker 10: we just watching TV.
• 31:56
  Speaker 13: It's just like, come on, how did you break out
• 31:58
  Speaker 13: of it?
• 32:00
  Speaker 10: You just don't play broa, you don't play like And
• 32:05
  Speaker 10: it sucks to say. I don't know how long it
• 32:07
  Speaker 10: would have taken, you know, without her being present, but
• 32:10
  Speaker 10: it really took somebody just checking me as many times
• 32:13
  Speaker 10: as they you know, we're willing to check me, and
• 32:16
  Speaker 10: it's just it's it humbles you for somebody to let
• 32:20
  Speaker 10: you know, like you're not cute to me right now,
• 32:22
  Speaker 10: like I'm not. I don't want to kick it with you.
• 32:23
  Speaker 10: I don't want to go nowhere with you. I don't
• 32:25
  Speaker 10: want to do nothing with you until we figure out
• 32:27
  Speaker 10: what this this feeling is.
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: That's to keep it like that, just making emotional music
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: of a reopen wounds you were trying to quote.
• 32:35
  Speaker 13: Not for me, No, not necessarily anymore.
• 32:38
  Speaker 10: I think like once I start to to just put
• 32:41
  Speaker 10: it out, I'm okay with it, Like I'm cool with
• 32:45
  Speaker 10: like performing songs like problems and X Falling like some
• 32:47
  Speaker 10: of my first songs, and I think somebody had asked
• 32:49
  Speaker 10: me to just like how does it feel performing those
• 32:52
  Speaker 10: and do you you know, not.
• 32:53
  Speaker 13: Want to perform them sometimes? And I'm just like, no,
• 32:54
  Speaker 13: it happened. I needed to go through it.
• 32:56
  Speaker 10: I had to learn everything I needed to learn, and
• 32:58
  Speaker 10: like I'm straight, like it's it's it's cool to get
• 33:00
  Speaker 10: it out, like the music portion of it, in the
• 33:02
  Speaker 10: songwriting portion of it.
• 33:03
  Speaker 13: For me, it's just that's my that's my form of expression.
• 33:08
  Speaker 19: So I like it.
• 33:09
  Speaker 20: I know she's also an artist too, but does it
• 33:11
  Speaker 20: open anything for her because there are some lines on
• 33:13
  Speaker 20: the song where I was like, oh that, I don't
• 33:14
  Speaker 20: know if that maybe caused the conversation, Like you talk
• 33:16
  Speaker 20: about talking to a stranger, yeah at one point, because
• 33:19
  Speaker 20: at that time you just needed somebody to talk to,
• 33:21
  Speaker 20: and that was your mistake for even doing that. I'm like,
• 33:23
  Speaker 20: as a as a girlfriend, I would feel like, well,
• 33:25
  Speaker 20: why we got to bring that back up?
• 33:27
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, but that's that's the thing too. I
• 33:29
  Speaker 10: think like when two people do the same thing. It's
• 33:31
  Speaker 10: been a nice balance for me to figure out. And
• 33:34
  Speaker 10: I in the beginning was a little bit just just
• 33:40
  Speaker 10: not accountable for what she might feel or not what's
• 33:44
  Speaker 10: the word? I just I just wasn't aware. And since
• 33:50
  Speaker 10: like this album and the last album, like the one
• 33:52
  Speaker 10: I did before this too, it's been nice to just
• 33:54
  Speaker 10: have combos. Like before I even went on press runs
• 33:57
  Speaker 10: and did anything, I was just like, what's off limits?
• 34:00
  Speaker 10: Know what's okay to talk about?
• 34:01
  Speaker 8: You know?
• 34:01
  Speaker 13: Is how honest?
• 34:03
  Speaker 16: You know?
• 34:03
  Speaker 13: Can I be?
• 34:04
  Speaker 10: What business of ours is everybody else's business? And just
• 34:07
  Speaker 10: kind of walking her through, like how I am going
• 34:09
  Speaker 10: to answer something, and you know, we had a comforable
• 34:12
  Speaker 10: about it. She just said, look, as long as you
• 34:14
  Speaker 10: don't feel embarrassed and you aren't embarrassing me, and you know,
• 34:18
  Speaker 10: speaking truth.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: The psychedelics help, Honestly.
• 34:24
  Speaker 10: It's not like a go to, but it has, like
• 34:26
  Speaker 10: just in my own world, in my own thing, like
• 34:29
  Speaker 10: I've had a couple of moments where I've gone and
• 34:31
  Speaker 10: that's a medicine and like taking care of myself in
• 34:33
  Speaker 10: that way only like two or three times. But yeahshrooms
• 34:38
  Speaker 10: or iasca I've done before, Mushrooms I don't really care
• 34:41
  Speaker 10: for too much.
• 34:44
  Speaker 13: LSD have done before too.
• 34:45
  Speaker 10: I think LSD and iowasc are like similar, but aauasca
• 34:48
  Speaker 10: is more like yeah, this is like the real deal.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: I've only done it once.
• 34:53
  Speaker 10: Yeah, is beautiful, it's crazy, it's it's everything wrapped in
• 34:56
  Speaker 10: on and I think LS.
• 34:57
  Speaker 13: Is just like it could be for fun.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: I don't want to do that.
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: I've done I three times, but it was all in
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: one yeah fashion, So it was like three different three
• 35:04
  Speaker 6: consecutive days.
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 35:05
  Speaker 13: I think it's like getting straight to the fun part
• 35:07
  Speaker 13: of it. I was like, gonna take you back.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: To put that trauma on the table, and.
• 35:15
  Speaker 10: It was like the Matrix when like the foul canets
• 35:18
  Speaker 10: just like fly ash you and it's like, yeah, we're
• 35:20
  Speaker 10: about to get into everything.
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: The reason I asked because of the song chocolate.
• 35:24
  Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: On yourself.
• 35:28
  Speaker 17: Going back to what MB said, it seems like you
• 35:30
  Speaker 17: do it's easier for you to express yourself to your
• 35:33
  Speaker 17: music and just having a conversation on running late, you said,
• 35:37
  Speaker 17: I know I'm overdue for a crime, Like is that?
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: Like, how often do you cry? And what would you
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: be crying about.
• 35:44
  Speaker 13: I'm gonna be our cried last night.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: It was nice.
• 35:46
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 35:46
  Speaker 13: I did a show, uh and I got a song on.
• 35:50
  Speaker 10: The basically the deluxe version of the project with Trouble
• 35:53
  Speaker 10: from Atlanta who passed away, and yeah, I just had
• 35:57
  Speaker 10: a moment to myself last night. It sucks to lose
• 35:59
  Speaker 10: someone over something like it's just ridiculous, and yeah, I
• 36:04
  Speaker 10: need to cry a lot more. That's kind of popped
• 36:06
  Speaker 10: up in conversations and arguments too. Sometimes you just be like,
• 36:09
  Speaker 10: I don't know what you feel like, you need to
• 36:11
  Speaker 10: give me a little bit more.
• 36:13
  Speaker 13: So it takes a lot.
• 36:14
  Speaker 10: But also I think that's just from years and years
• 36:16
  Speaker 10: of just being guarded and like having to figure out
• 36:19
  Speaker 10: how to break that down and just kind of let
• 36:21
  Speaker 10: go a little bit.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: She mentioned a cry.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: When did you get to the point where you felt
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: like it was okay to be that vulnerable right where
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: you could talk about crying and you don't care that
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: if people make funny you.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: Don't care about what they say. If I cry up here,
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: he's gonna be like this bitch.
• 36:34
  Speaker 17: As just in my mind, it depends on what you're
• 36:41
  Speaker 17: crying about, Like he not going to just be like
• 36:45
  Speaker 17: he's not gonna care because he said I cry a lot,
• 36:47
  Speaker 17: I'm a laugh.
• 37:00
  Speaker 16: The same thing.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: When did you get that vulnerableline?
• 37:10
  Speaker 10: Honestly, I feel like it was with my daughters, Like
• 37:12
  Speaker 10: once I had my firstborn, and with this new baby,
• 37:16
  Speaker 10: like the time in between those uh, just I don't know,
• 37:20
  Speaker 10: it just opened me up more. It made me a
• 37:22
  Speaker 10: lot softer, and it made me a lot more honest.
• 37:27
  Speaker 10: And also just like for the beginning of my career,
• 37:30
  Speaker 10: like missing out on a bunch with my firstborn, Like
• 37:32
  Speaker 10: even though I was a present father, providing, doing as
• 37:34
  Speaker 10: much as I can, it was some moments that I
• 37:36
  Speaker 10: just won't ever get back. And it was some moments
• 37:38
  Speaker 10: when I was on stage on the road to where
• 37:40
  Speaker 10: I'm just kind of closing, you know, thinking that it's
• 37:43
  Speaker 10: cool or that it'll be cool because it's you know,
• 37:44
  Speaker 10: it's all funny games when we see each other, but truthfully,
• 37:47
  Speaker 10: like I'm reintroducing myself to my kid every single time
• 37:49
  Speaker 10: I come back home, and that started to like chip
• 37:52
  Speaker 10: away at me until I just finally found a way
• 37:55
  Speaker 10: to talk about it and admit that it was something
• 37:57
  Speaker 10: that kind of broke my heart. It was just like,
• 37:59
  Speaker 10: you know, I know, I know we have a great relationship,
• 38:01
  Speaker 10: she's a great kid, Like nothing is wrong right now,
• 38:05
  Speaker 10: but I went through something that I didn't know how
• 38:07
  Speaker 10: to communicate, and once I was able to say like
• 38:09
  Speaker 10: that messed me up.
• 38:10
  Speaker 13: Like that's when I think it started to just like
• 38:12
  Speaker 13: fix everything else.
• 38:13
  Speaker 20: Going back to the conversation about your first daughter, what
• 38:17
  Speaker 20: conversation did you have with her mom once you got
• 38:19
  Speaker 20: to this point of realizing, like, Okay, there's moments I
• 38:22
  Speaker 20: missed and how I felt and kind of like I
• 38:24
  Speaker 20: guess figuring out how she felt through those moments to
• 38:26
  Speaker 20: make it where now, y'all as co parents, you know,
• 38:28
  Speaker 20: are able to like everything cohesive and you know, kind
• 38:31
  Speaker 20: of get past that emotional stage that.
• 38:33
  Speaker 10: Came in waves, and it came in like fractions. It
• 38:36
  Speaker 10: wasn't like an upfront conversation. It was just something over time.
• 38:39
  Speaker 10: Like in the beginning, I had to find the balance
• 38:41
  Speaker 10: of like, this isn't the person who I'm gonna be
• 38:44
  Speaker 10: with for the rest of my life, and my life
• 38:47
  Speaker 10: is changing at the same exact time, so the timing
• 38:49
  Speaker 10: looks a little weird. It's like you get to go
• 38:51
  Speaker 10: and like travel the world and do this and like
• 38:53
  Speaker 10: be in a relationship and I gotta be here and
• 38:56
  Speaker 10: like take care of the baby, and I think initially
• 38:59
  Speaker 10: like it come out in in normal way, it's just
• 39:01
  Speaker 10: like you know she misses you.
• 39:02
  Speaker 13: You know you need to figure out.
• 39:03
  Speaker 10: Some times here, and yeah, it was it was just
• 39:07
  Speaker 10: never we never had to sit down in the beginning,
• 39:09
  Speaker 10: because again I was trying to figure out, like, how
• 39:11
  Speaker 10: do I draw a boundary with somebody who I've had
• 39:14
  Speaker 10: just issues with, just you know, from I am from
• 39:16
  Speaker 10: her and like standing on what we say and not
• 39:18
  Speaker 10: like going back and forth for swaying or just lying
• 39:21
  Speaker 10: to each other and getting how do I continue to
• 39:24
  Speaker 10: show up as a father? So I had to find
• 39:26
  Speaker 10: that balance, and it took literally up until like it
• 39:30
  Speaker 10: took like six years to truly get it down to
• 39:34
  Speaker 10: where you have a common you just like, look everything
• 39:36
  Speaker 10: that's happened before, Like if it's not about her, it's dead.
• 39:40
  Speaker 10: If you slipping or you say anything weird, I'm gonna
• 39:42
  Speaker 10: tell your folks. If I do anything weird, you could
• 39:44
  Speaker 10: tell my folks. Like now, we just need to like
• 39:47
  Speaker 10: make sure none of it gets to her at all.
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: The name of that song is wifey baby Mama. Yeah,
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: what the hell is the wife?
• 39:53
  Speaker 10: Yeah it's I mean, I feel like baby mama just
• 39:55
  Speaker 10: has a negative connotation around it sometimes. And I have
• 39:59
  Speaker 10: two kids now to different baby moms. But I know
• 40:01
  Speaker 10: who I'm with, right now is the person that I
• 40:03
  Speaker 10: want to be with for the rest of my life.
• 40:04
  Speaker 10: But also I don't feel like I'm like Russian by
• 40:07
  Speaker 10: any like societal standards of like, well, you're together and
• 40:09
  Speaker 10: you have the kids, so you need to get married
• 40:11
  Speaker 10: right now, or da da da da. It's just more
• 40:14
  Speaker 10: like I want to make sure when I propose to
• 40:16
  Speaker 10: you that is such an undeniable yes, that we have
• 40:19
  Speaker 10: talked through everything, work through everything, you know, and nothing
• 40:23
  Speaker 10: unnecessary has to come up later on, Like let's handle
• 40:25
  Speaker 10: the work first, and let's make it so that, you know,
• 40:27
  Speaker 10: when we have our wedding, our baby can be there
• 40:29
  Speaker 10: and it can be a beautiful moment. She can be
• 40:31
  Speaker 10: the flower girl, and it doesn't have to feel like
• 40:33
  Speaker 10: we you know, didn't do anything in the right way.
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: You know, the work never stops.
• 40:37
  Speaker 10: I know, yeah, for sure, but but I want to
• 40:39
  Speaker 10: I want to get the dirty work, like all of
• 40:42
  Speaker 10: the hard work just at least started right now. So again,
• 40:45
  Speaker 10: when I say will you marry me? I wanted to
• 40:48
  Speaker 10: be like yes, of course, not like we still got
• 40:51
  Speaker 10: a common to have about No. I know you're afraid
• 40:54
  Speaker 10: might I know you said she don't play, but yeah,
• 40:57
  Speaker 10: I mean I just I know, I know how I've
• 41:00
  Speaker 10: been and I know how long it's been, so, you know,
• 41:04
  Speaker 10: almost a decade of working through communication issues. It's not
• 41:07
  Speaker 10: something that somebody will just wake up one day and
• 41:09
  Speaker 10: be like, yeah, I'm good with you wasting my time
• 41:12
  Speaker 10: for ten years. Like no, it's gonna take a minute
• 41:14
  Speaker 10: for it to like finally be exactly where we both
• 41:17
  Speaker 10: want it to be. And I just want her to
• 41:18
  Speaker 10: be as happy as possible. I want myself to be
• 41:20
  Speaker 10: as happy as possible. And yeah, I'm not like Russian
• 41:23
  Speaker 10: to do anything like the marriage is coming.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: But your awareness is beautiful though, Like sound good to y'all.
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: Take accountability, Yeah, it sounds good to y'all.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: You know the truth.
• 41:35
  Speaker 10: No, Na, that was like that was my weird thing
• 41:39
  Speaker 10: in the industry too, Like I'm a young man coming
• 41:41
  Speaker 10: into the industry and accessibility is like on one thousand
• 41:43
  Speaker 10: right now. So you travel the world and you see
• 41:45
  Speaker 10: everything and you hear everything, and it's right there knocking
• 41:47
  Speaker 10: at your door, and to have to decide, you know,
• 41:50
  Speaker 10: what to do every single night or every single week
• 41:52
  Speaker 10: was just like, oh, this is it's a wild while
• 41:53
  Speaker 10: westill here, Like I've gone to places where I'm like,
• 41:55
  Speaker 10: this is hell on Earth. Like as far as like
• 41:57
  Speaker 10: being a black man, being a successful black man, being
• 42:00
  Speaker 10: an artist, I'm just like it's certain places I already
• 42:03
  Speaker 10: you know, like when we go, make sure my green
• 42:06
  Speaker 10: room is clear, make sure ain't nobody backstage who don't
• 42:08
  Speaker 10: need to be backstage. And also just like keeping up
• 42:11
  Speaker 10: with folks in general was just it's just stressful, like
• 42:14
  Speaker 10: having to manage any other relationships or hide something or
• 42:18
  Speaker 10: like keep something touched away, Like that's that's too much.
• 42:20
  Speaker 10: Like my health matters, Like I ain't mental health, physical health.
• 42:24
  Speaker 10: I really ain't got time.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: You said it was like hell on Earth, you know,
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: backstage and seeing some of these what was the craziest
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: thing a fan did?
• 42:31
  Speaker 10: I couldn't tell you a specific moment because it gets
• 42:35
  Speaker 10: blurry in those moments.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: For me, for sure, I imagine to say that Australia.
• 42:39
  Speaker 13: Australia is like the most dangerous place for a young
• 42:42
  Speaker 13: black successful men.
• 42:43
  Speaker 8: Why is that?
• 42:44
  Speaker 10: Because their culture over there is just very like straightforward,
• 42:47
  Speaker 10: like they don't you know, it's not like they trying
• 42:50
  Speaker 10: to get to know you and like what are y'all
• 42:51
  Speaker 10: doing tonight? And da da dad, you'll hear somebody just
• 42:53
  Speaker 10: be like I'm trying to Yeah, it's like they don't
• 42:59
  Speaker 10: be around the bush out there. So I've just been
• 43:01
  Speaker 10: able to see like the interactions out there. And that's
• 43:03
  Speaker 10: one place where we go where I'm just like there's
• 43:06
  Speaker 10: a bubble surrounding me. In the club for sure, it's like,
• 43:09
  Speaker 10: don't let anybody through here. Because what I've had to,
• 43:12
  Speaker 10: like the way I've had to like.
• 43:13
  Speaker 13: Respond to certain things in certain moments, or women have
• 43:16
  Speaker 13: just been like are you good? Like are you gay?
• 43:18
  Speaker 13: Like why not? I'm just like it's like that over there.
• 43:29
  Speaker 21: Well, so all right.
• 43:30
  Speaker 20: So then when you were talking about the open ear
• 43:32
  Speaker 20: that made a stranger feel like like closer to you,
• 43:34
  Speaker 20: but she was nobody to you, and what you did
• 43:37
  Speaker 20: only made sense to you what happened in that scenario then,
• 43:39
  Speaker 20: because I after Bounty and in hearing that line or
• 43:41
  Speaker 20: bird flew, I'm like, you definitely must have got caught tea,
• 43:44
  Speaker 20: but you're saying no.
• 43:44
  Speaker 10: In those moments when you are like having breaks in
• 43:47
  Speaker 10: your relationship and you know, trying to figure it out
• 43:49
  Speaker 10: in your separate spaces, I just feel like I, I
• 43:53
  Speaker 10: like would allow people to like think that they were
• 43:57
  Speaker 10: cool with me or think that you know we were
• 43:59
  Speaker 10: friends or ain't that the conversation was good, when truly
• 44:03
  Speaker 10: I was just struggling just like having conversations with the
• 44:06
  Speaker 10: person who I really wanted to have a conversation with. So,
• 44:08
  Speaker 10: you know, it's just easier to talk to a friend
• 44:10
  Speaker 10: or easier to talk to somebody that's, you know, randomly,
• 44:13
  Speaker 10: you know in the room at a venue who's like
• 44:15
  Speaker 10: just trying to strike up a conversation and feeling like
• 44:18
  Speaker 10: you're relating to each other when truthfully, in my head,
• 44:20
  Speaker 10: I'm just like I don't want to talk to you, bro,
• 44:21
  Speaker 10: Like I really don't, but like I need to mature
• 44:24
  Speaker 10: a little bit more so that I can just like
• 44:27
  Speaker 10: continue to keep that like far away from me.
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: How are your fan base feel about that?
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: As me?
• 44:33
  Speaker 10: I know that most people who listen to my music
• 44:36
  Speaker 10: understand and appreciate like just linear growth, But there are
• 44:40
  Speaker 10: some folks who get introduced to you in a very beginning,
• 44:42
  Speaker 10: like a song is viral, like problems is gonna make
• 44:45
  Speaker 10: you think.
• 44:45
  Speaker 13: Oh, this is my toxic king, like I need I
• 44:48
  Speaker 13: go to him for this.
• 44:49
  Speaker 10: But I just feel like, if you want me to
• 44:53
  Speaker 10: stay in a place that was depressing for me, then
• 44:56
  Speaker 10: he's just not really my type of person. If you
• 44:59
  Speaker 10: want that too, it exists right there on all DSPs.
• 45:02
  Speaker 10: You can go listen, put it on repeat as many
• 45:03
  Speaker 10: times as you want. But I would never if I
• 45:06
  Speaker 10: ever went back there, it would be bad for everybody.
• 45:09
  Speaker 13: Like I don't.
• 45:09
  Speaker 10: I don't want to have another like Free Black era.
• 45:12
  Speaker 10: So I think most people get it, and the ones
• 45:16
  Speaker 10: that don't, they just need to learn that. You you
• 45:17
  Speaker 10: can always go listen to the album.
• 45:19
  Speaker 13: It's right there all right.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: Love is the new gangster Black. We appreciate you for
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: joining us, brother, appreciate it.
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: It is black.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: It's the breakfast club. Good morning all the main say
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: the gang don't get other shame Maine.
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: You are a don't. It's time for don't keys to Day.
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: Donkey of Today does not discriminate. I might not have
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: the song to Today, but I got the Donkey of Day.
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: So if you ever feel I need to be a
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: donkey man, it's.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: A breakfast club, bitch, Please don't keep to Day Today.
• 45:48
  Speaker 6: Well at Sharon, Donkey of to Day goes to Isaiah
• 45:51
  Speaker 6: Walker of Arizona.
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: Now let me tell you something. Donkey of to Day
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: is therapeutic for me.
• 45:55
  Speaker 6: Okay, it's therapeutic for me because I like logic, all right,
• 45:58
  Speaker 6: and we live in a world right now where nothing
• 46:00
  Speaker 6: is logical, and this gives me a chance to just
• 46:03
  Speaker 6: been about it, all right.
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: When I say things don't make sense, they don't make sense.
• 46:06
  Speaker 6: I truly believe that in the future we are gonna
• 46:08
  Speaker 6: realize how all of this new technology, the way we
• 46:11
  Speaker 6: consume information via the Internet, via social media, has completely
• 46:15
  Speaker 6: ruined and sabotaged our neurological pathways, okay, completely disrupted our
• 46:21
  Speaker 6: cognitive abilities and ways we don't understand, okay, the way
• 46:24
  Speaker 6: we think, the way we comprehend, the way we reason,
• 46:26
  Speaker 6: the way we problem solve, the way we process information.
• 46:28
  Speaker 6: We are gonna find out how technology has made our cognitive.
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: Abilities extremely low.
• 46:35
  Speaker 6: Isaiah Walker has exhibited for me in regards to this
• 46:37
  Speaker 6: theory because Isaiah, who is twenty something years old, was
• 46:40
  Speaker 6: released from a correctional facility and as soon as he
• 46:44
  Speaker 6: was released, he started thinking of.
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: Ways to go back, all right.
• 46:48
  Speaker 6: See, when he got out of jail, he spotted a
• 46:50
  Speaker 6: commercial car hauler, okay, that was loaded with C eight corvettes.
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: What is the C eight corvette envy. You a car guy.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: It's a new Corvette that just came out I think
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: about two years ago. Okay, just the newest model of
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: a C eight.
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 47:02
  Speaker 6: It was in that moment Isaiah decided he needed a ride.
• 47:05
  Speaker 6: All right, let's go to Fox ten Phoenix for the report.
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: Polease moving on this morning across Arizona.
• 47:10
  Speaker 22: As suspect is behind bars in Coachies County, accused of
• 47:13
  Speaker 22: stealing a semi truck full of high end sports car.
• 47:16
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 47:16
  Speaker 23: The suspect told deputies he stole the truck because he
• 47:19
  Speaker 23: had just gotten out of prison and he needed a
• 47:21
  Speaker 23: ride home. Twenty three old Isaiah Walker is accused of
• 47:24
  Speaker 23: grabbing the semi truck driver at a truck stop near
• 47:28
  Speaker 23: Willcox and throwing him out of the cab. Deputy s
• 47:32
  Speaker 23: Walker drove off with the semi carrying nearly a dozen
• 47:35
  Speaker 23: Chevy Corvette C eights, the value more than one point
• 47:38
  Speaker 23: two five million.
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: Coachi's deputy and a.
• 47:40
  Speaker 23: Willcox police officer pulled over Walker for driving recklessly. He's
• 47:44
  Speaker 23: now facing serious charges.
• 47:46
  Speaker 6: And this is why they call you nigga. Okay, I'm
• 47:49
  Speaker 6: not gonna let my cordas all levels get high. This
• 47:52
  Speaker 6: morning I'm just gonna bit, okay, express what I'm feeling.
• 47:56
  Speaker 6: One point two five million dollars in car, right in corvettes,
• 48:03
  Speaker 6: and Isaiah Walker's reasoning for stealing them was he just
• 48:05
  Speaker 6: needed to get home. He just needed a ride home.
• 48:09
  Speaker 6: Let me tell you something, Isaiah. Home is where the
• 48:12
  Speaker 6: heart is, and your heart is clearly in a correctional facility. Okay,
• 48:15
  Speaker 6: We're gonna stop acting like prison isn't the best place
• 48:18
  Speaker 6: for some people.
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: And if it's not where you want to be, then
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: why do you keep doing things to be there? All right?
• 48:23
  Speaker 6: This guy literally just walked out of a correctional facility,
• 48:27
  Speaker 6: just walked out of a prison. He said he just
• 48:31
  Speaker 6: really needed to get hold, so he decides to carjack
• 48:34
  Speaker 6: a whole car hauler full of corvettes.
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: Now, all you need is one car to get hold. Okay,
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: it doesn't even have to be yours.
• 48:41
  Speaker 6: Never in the history of life have you called Uber
• 48:45
  Speaker 6: Lift or any ride shad company and they sent you
• 48:48
  Speaker 6: a truck full of cars. Okay, but this is what
• 48:51
  Speaker 6: I'm telling you. When it comes to logic that doesn't
• 48:53
  Speaker 6: exist anymore. Not to mention, he tried to get away,
• 48:57
  Speaker 6: police got behind him because the description was easy, Hey,
• 49:00
  Speaker 6: stolen semi truck, ten brightly colored Chevrolet Corvettes on him.
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: Sheriff deputies were on his ass in.
• 49:06
  Speaker 6: Seconds, and he refused to stop swerving the hall of
• 49:09
  Speaker 6: cross lanes, force another drivers to have to drive off
• 49:12
  Speaker 6: the road, and thank god, he didn't hurt anybody.
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 49:15
  Speaker 6: He eventually stopped, surrendered to law enforcement, and they took
• 49:19
  Speaker 6: his ass home, and by home I met jail.
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 49:22
  Speaker 6: The police asked him what exactly did he plan to
• 49:23
  Speaker 6: do with ten brand new Corvettes, and his.
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: Answer was he had no interest in the cause whatsoever.
• 49:30
  Speaker 6: He had just gotten out of prison, he had no
• 49:32
  Speaker 6: way to get back to Oklahoma and figured stealing a
• 49:34
  Speaker 6: semi truck was a reasonable solution to his transportation problem.
• 49:38
  Speaker 6: That was an exact quote. If that sounds remotely logical
• 49:42
  Speaker 6: to you, then do not pass go, do not collect
• 49:45
  Speaker 6: two hundred dollars, Just go straight to jail with Isaiah.
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 49:48
  Speaker 6: I would rather him say, hey, man, I just got home.
• 49:51
  Speaker 6: I'm not trying to get no job. I stole this truck,
• 49:54
  Speaker 6: I got these cars. I'm gonna sell him to a
• 49:55
  Speaker 6: chop shop. But to say you did all that because
• 49:58
  Speaker 6: you needed a ride home. Please get Isaiah Walker the
• 50:02
  Speaker 6: sweet Sounds of the Hamiltons.
• 50:04
  Speaker 16: Oh no, you are the dog damn the dogee all
• 50:16
  Speaker 16: the day?
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: Ye yeah, anythink that went through?
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: See. I want to stop using the N word now,
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: and y'all want me to stop using the N word.
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: But what am I supposed to say with be nigga? Okay?
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: But I'm trying, but not for the reasons y'all want
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: me to.
• 50:32
  Speaker 6: I'm trying because I think you know N words are
• 50:35
  Speaker 6: immune to that word, and I'm looking for something stronger.
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 50:38
  Speaker 6: I was watching the great show that is absolutely in
• 50:40
  Speaker 6: my DNA. You see, I got the T shirt on
• 50:42
  Speaker 6: the day, The Boondocks. I was watching it over the
• 50:44
  Speaker 6: break and Uncle Ruckus reminded me of the why we
• 50:46
  Speaker 6: shouldn't use the N word anymore, And it's.
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: Because we need something stronger.
• 50:49
  Speaker 12: Can we hear it?
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: Please? No, I don't think we should use the way.
• 50:52
  Speaker 24: Then I tell you why they have gotten used to it.
• 50:55
  Speaker 24: That's why hell they like it. Now, you got to
• 50:58
  Speaker 24: rotate your race or slood.
• 51:00
  Speaker 12: I know it's hard.
• 51:01
  Speaker 24: Death rolled off the tongue the way sweat rolled off forehead.
• 51:05
  Speaker 24: But we cannot let that be a crutch especinally when
• 51:08
  Speaker 24: there are so many other fire substitutes. Spade, jungle boat,
• 51:12
  Speaker 24: I say, next time you're gonna call a dog, Yeah,
• 51:15
  Speaker 24: call that ConA jungle by instead.
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: I agree, stupid, spade, illogical, jungle bunny.
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't like those.
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: I don't care what you like. Yeah, I don't like
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: what the dumb ass boy did.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: What so many questions car Yeah, like how are you
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: gonna hide it?
• 51:37
  Speaker 7: Like?
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: Were you gonna hide? You're gonna try to drive all
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: the way Oklahoma.
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: See that's your problem, y'all sitting around trying to figure
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: out why.
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: It's the Breakfast Club Good morning morning. Everybody is d
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: j n V.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: Just hilarious, charlamage the guy. We are the breakfast Club
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: lawl the Roses here as well. We got a special
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: guest in the building that's right now. She entered the
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: Picture pot Cast competition that last year is a Blackifes
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: podcast festival.
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: Black Effect. Stay with you to send Black Effect, I said,
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: black Baby.
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: She won and she is now on the network. The
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: name of her podcast is the Black Mother Wound Podcast.
• 52:16
  Speaker 6: Ladies and gentlemen, we have Jennifer Arnie's Well, good morning Jennifer,
• 52:20
  Speaker 6: how are you feeling.
• 52:21
  Speaker 22: I'm feeling amazing. Where are you for having me? I'm
• 52:24
  Speaker 22: from stead in North.
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: Carolina, North Carolina, Carolina, Carolina.
• 52:29
  Speaker 21: How did you look up with Instagram?
• 52:31
  Speaker 20: Oh?
• 52:31
  Speaker 22: Okay, yep, I live outside of Charlotte now in Rocky Hill.
• 52:34
  Speaker 21: Okay, okay, all right.
• 52:35
  Speaker 20: Because at the podcast festival, she was with another podcaster
• 52:39
  Speaker 20: from Delaware, and I was like, oh my god, this
• 52:41
  Speaker 20: is like such a full circle moment, my first time
• 52:43
  Speaker 20: meeting and you were her.
• 52:45
  Speaker 22: Know her for years and we've known each other online
• 52:47
  Speaker 22: for years and now it's my buddy.
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: And you're also a spiritual coach and intuitive feeler. Yes,
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: what what is that again?
• 52:56
  Speaker 22: Well, it means that the work that I do is
• 52:59
  Speaker 22: all about creating a better relationship with yourself.
• 53:01
  Speaker 12: Right.
• 53:02
  Speaker 22: So that's your mind, your body, and your spirit. And
• 53:04
  Speaker 22: I think most of us we're giving tools on how
• 53:08
  Speaker 22: to have our physical body in shape. We're giving tools
• 53:11
  Speaker 22: now to even maybe you know our intellect and our mind,
• 53:15
  Speaker 22: but a lot of times our spirit, the thing we
• 53:17
  Speaker 22: can't see, gets neglected. And I think that's like our core,
• 53:21
  Speaker 22: and that's where our compass is, and that's where our
• 53:23
  Speaker 22: intuition lies. So I think through healing, through vulnerability, transparency,
• 53:29
  Speaker 22: you can stop compartmentalizing those things and have them all
• 53:33
  Speaker 22: work together.
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: As an intuitive healer, like a kind of like a
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: medium or no, a medium.
• 53:38
  Speaker 22: I don't tell you the future or anything like that.
• 53:40
  Speaker 22: It's just how you connect with yourself, your inner little child,
• 53:44
  Speaker 22: your emotions, all those types of things like that. It's
• 53:48
  Speaker 22: no crystal balls if you have the power. It's teaching
• 53:51
  Speaker 22: someone how to tap into their own power.
• 53:53
  Speaker 6: And you know, we've been having a lot of conversations
• 53:55
  Speaker 6: lately just about you know, father wounds, mother wounds.
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: What is a black mother wound?
• 54:02
  Speaker 22: For people who want that, So let me tell you
• 54:04
  Speaker 22: about what a mother wound is, because I think with
• 54:07
  Speaker 22: social media they throw in terms around and use them
• 54:10
  Speaker 22: for everything. Right, And how I came to learn the
• 54:12
  Speaker 22: mother womb through Bethany Webster is it is a generational
• 54:15
  Speaker 22: wound that passes down from a mother to a daughter.
• 54:20
  Speaker 22: It's rooted in the patriarchy and the mother's lack of
• 54:23
  Speaker 22: autonomy that she has over her own life that's created
• 54:26
  Speaker 22: by the patriarchy. She models that behavior down to her daughter,
• 54:31
  Speaker 22: and so it's like really teaching a girl how to
• 54:35
  Speaker 22: survive with less right and so you have. So it's
• 54:39
  Speaker 22: gender based the black mother wound. We're gonna add race
• 54:42
  Speaker 22: and how a black woman also loses autonomy not just
• 54:45
  Speaker 22: because of her gender, but because of her race. Because
• 54:49
  Speaker 22: when I've read all these books about the mother wounds,
• 54:51
  Speaker 22: they don't there's not a real reflection of us. A
• 54:54
  Speaker 22: black woman's story isn't centered, and it's not the same.
• 54:57
  Speaker 22: Having a white mother and having a Black mother is
• 54:59
  Speaker 22: not the same. The wounding is not the same. So
• 55:02
  Speaker 22: it's really how we approach it, especially if you grew
• 55:05
  Speaker 22: up with a strong Black mother, if you grew up
• 55:10
  Speaker 22: with that, because there is no strong white mother, there's
• 55:12
  Speaker 22: no strong Mexican mother, there's no strong Asian, but there's
• 55:16
  Speaker 22: a strong Black mother. And that's really a crown of thorns.
• 55:19
  Speaker 22: We've kind of exalted it, but really it's painful, and
• 55:23
  Speaker 22: you pass that down to your daughters. So if my
• 55:26
  Speaker 22: mother was born in nineteen forty six, she had certain freedoms,
• 55:29
  Speaker 22: So I was born in the seventies. She's just teaching
• 55:32
  Speaker 22: me from what she knows about freedom, but I have
• 55:35
  Speaker 22: more freedom right, And that becomes the disconnect because she's
• 55:39
  Speaker 22: trying to teach me about a world that doesn't exist anymore,
• 55:42
  Speaker 22: and I'm trying to live in a world that she
• 55:43
  Speaker 22: doesn't know about. And that's what creates a lot of
• 55:46
  Speaker 22: the conflict between black women and their daughters.
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: Well break that down, explain that a little bit, because
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: somebody will say, well, I'm white, I had a strong
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: white woman, a white, strong white mother. You know, I'm Asian.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: But but break that down because people are just here
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: that and being like, that's not true. But what do
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: you break that down with me?
• 56:04
  Speaker 22: When I say having when you say, oh, she's I'm
• 56:07
  Speaker 22: a strong black woman, like it's seen as you know,
• 56:10
  Speaker 22: a badge of honor. How you I was listening earlier
• 56:15
  Speaker 22: on the radio and the guy was talking about his
• 56:18
  Speaker 22: wife and he said he loves his wife because she's
• 56:22
  Speaker 22: always in so much pain, but she never shows it.
• 56:26
  Speaker 22: That's what he loves about her. That type of expectation,
• 56:32
  Speaker 22: I believe is relegated to black women. And if you
• 56:36
  Speaker 22: are going through pain and you don't know how to
• 56:38
  Speaker 22: show it, and you have a black daughter, she's gonna
• 56:40
  Speaker 22: go through pain and you're gonna teach her not to
• 56:42
  Speaker 22: show it because that's what being strong is, That's what
• 56:44
  Speaker 22: being good is how much you can abandon yourself for
• 56:48
  Speaker 22: the sake of others, which is rooted in systematic racial oppression,
• 56:53
  Speaker 22: is rooted in chattel slavery. It's the dehumanization of a
• 56:57
  Speaker 22: black woman and how she teaches her daughter that her
• 57:00
  Speaker 22: dehumanization is also a part of her survival, and how
• 57:04
  Speaker 22: to wear it with a smile, how to make it nice.
• 57:07
  Speaker 22: That's not something that other cultures are really experiencing the
• 57:10
  Speaker 22: way Black women and their daughters. And yeah, yeah, that
• 57:14
  Speaker 22: it's not the same.
• 57:15
  Speaker 6: Our elders endured so much that sometimes trauma gets passed
• 57:18
  Speaker 6: down its strength.
• 57:20
  Speaker 22: Not sometimes all. Yeah, it does, because at one point
• 57:25
  Speaker 22: that was how you stayed alive. But it's not how
• 57:29
  Speaker 22: you stay alive now. And I think that's why we
• 57:31
  Speaker 22: have to even update how we are parenting, because when
• 57:35
  Speaker 22: you look at black culture, a big part of Black culture,
• 57:38
  Speaker 22: you have music, you have the way you dress, you
• 57:40
  Speaker 22: have the way you talk, and you have the way
• 57:42
  Speaker 22: you parent or your parent like a black parent, your
• 57:44
  Speaker 22: parent like this, and it's so rooted in tradition that
• 57:47
  Speaker 22: we're missing that is becoming obsolete.
• 57:50
  Speaker 20: Now, when did you learn that you were even allowed
• 57:53
  Speaker 20: to acknowledge that there were black mother wounds because for
• 57:55
  Speaker 20: a long time I didn't even know that I was
• 57:57
  Speaker 20: allowed to even talk say that and talk about that.
• 58:00
  Speaker 22: I never knew. I always knew it was a thing.
• 58:03
  Speaker 22: And then when I was forty, me and my mother
• 58:05
  Speaker 22: were having a conversation on the phone and she started
• 58:08
  Speaker 22: hitting me with a one word answer. I was trying
• 58:11
  Speaker 22: to help her and she was like, okay, okay, okay,
• 58:15
  Speaker 22: and I realized she thinks I'm her enemy. I've spent
• 58:20
  Speaker 22: all my life trying to please her, trying to be
• 58:22
  Speaker 22: everything that she wants me to be, and in this moment,
• 58:25
  Speaker 22: she thinks I'm her enemy. She doesn't trust me. And
• 58:29
  Speaker 22: it was literally like my life flashed before my face
• 58:32
  Speaker 22: and I had seen it my whole life. And I
• 58:34
  Speaker 22: was like, oh, she got me up. This is not me,
• 58:39
  Speaker 22: this is not my problem. And then to talk about it,
• 58:43
  Speaker 22: I read a book Barbarne Brown and she was talking
• 58:45
  Speaker 22: about shame, and I realized how much shame I felt.
• 58:48
  Speaker 22: Because I didn't have a close relationship with my mother,
• 58:50
  Speaker 22: I didn't even know how to acknowledge it, and so
• 58:52
  Speaker 22: realizing that you cure shame through sharing, and so that's
• 58:56
  Speaker 22: when I was like, let me see if am I
• 58:59
  Speaker 22: broken and my bad person? Am I wrong? And then
• 59:02
  Speaker 22: starting to share my story and people saying, oh my god,
• 59:05
  Speaker 22: you're saying how I feel, but I didn't have words
• 59:08
  Speaker 22: for it. You're letting me know I'm not the only one.
• 59:11
  Speaker 22: I'm not crazy, I'm not exaggerating, I'm not making it up.
• 59:14
  Speaker 22: Those were all the things I felt, And so as
• 59:17
  Speaker 22: soon as I saw, oh, I'm not the only one,
• 59:20
  Speaker 22: I was like, let's talk about it. And it really
• 59:22
  Speaker 22: did help me because I have so much shame, you
• 59:26
  Speaker 22: know what I mean. It's just I was raised in
• 59:28
  Speaker 22: the Bible belt in church with a single black mother.
• 59:31
  Speaker 22: You know, everything is like there's a sense of guilt
• 59:34
  Speaker 22: that's put on you early on, and so just being
• 59:38
  Speaker 22: just talking about it has helped. And that's why I
• 59:40
  Speaker 22: think that's a really important thing.
• 59:41
  Speaker 21: When you talked about it with your mom, was she
• 59:43
  Speaker 21: receptive to hearing that?
• 59:45
  Speaker 22: No? No, And we've had the conversation before. I've never
• 59:50
  Speaker 22: I've always known there was something off between the relationship
• 59:54
  Speaker 22: with me and my mother my whole life. My father
• 59:56
  Speaker 22: knew it, you know, and this is not to shade her,
• 59:58
  Speaker 22: It's just something that I always is new. But I
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 22: just felt that that it was me. So no, I don't.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 22: I don't think she has that why. I know she
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 22: doesn't have that capacity to understand, and I've seen as
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 22: it's seen, its disrespectful for me to even.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: Bring it up.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 6: I want to talk about that, right because like you know, mothers,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 6: grandmother's right, and you know in the black community there
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 6: their sacred figures you can't be questioned. How do you
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 6: create space for accountability without encouraging disrespect exactly?
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 22: Well, first, I think we need to redefine, like what
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 22: is disrespect because that is like the number one word
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 22: in the black community.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: It's like, oh, what.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 22: Does that mean? Because it's a lot of times if
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 22: you disagree, you disrespect. If you talk loud, you disrespect.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 22: If you don't say yes ma'am. So it's like you
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 22: can't you can't hold someone accountable. Your boundary is for you.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 22: So my generation, it might not happen with me, it
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 22: may happen with the next generation. So this work isn't
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 22: about changing the mother, right, It is about the daughter
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 22: healing the relationship with herself so she doesn't repeat the
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 22: same patterns and then she and she becomes in touch
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 22: with her own humanity. She then can see her mother's
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 22: humanity and sometimes you do love from afar. We have
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 22: to get out of this concept that what a mother
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 22: should be, how the relationship should be, and learn to
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 22: accept it as it is and build loving community and
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 22: loving relationships where we can find them. A lot of
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 22: times we think, if I don't get the love from
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 22: my mother, then I'm not going to get it from anybody,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 22: and my things I want to teach you. Just because
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 22: she can't give you the love, it doesn't mean the
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 22: love doesn't exist because you're going to a well that's dry.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 22: You know, It's like I'm a cell phone, I'm an iPhone.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 22: Just think about our programming all the things that an
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 22: iPhone can do, a lot of our mothers are a
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 22: house phone. You can't click over, there's no FaceTime, there's
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 22: no apps, it's a limited capability. Does that make her wrong? No,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 22: We are all on an evolutionary journey. This isn't about
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 22: shaming anybody, but it is understanding actual human dynamics and like,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 22: where can I get the love I need?
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: How do you break those traumas?
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 8: Right?
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: Because it's like you know, being a dad, right, Like
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: my dad raised me a certain way, right, And he
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: did it out of survival.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: He was he went to the military, He's seen racism.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: He wasn't able to drink a certain water fountain. So
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: for me, he looks at people a certain way, which
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: made me look at people a certain.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 13: Way, right.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: But that was forty fifty sixty years ago. But now
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: when I have my kids, I kind of do the
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: same thing as my dad, and I try to scale
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: back a little bit. But it's difficult because that's how
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: you raise So how do you break those traumas so
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: that your daughters and your daughter's daughters and your daughter's
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: daughter's daughter's daughters.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: Are not feeling that same trauma.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 22: The reality is, I'm not going to fix all of it,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 22: their mistakes I made with my son that I'm you know,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 22: putting money away for him to be in therapy when
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 22: he's older. You know what I'm saying, You're not going
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 22: to fix everything you're and that's I think it's what's
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 22: better than being right is allowing yourself to be wrong
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 22: in front of your kids. You know, It's like, I
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 22: don't know that you know I feel this way. I
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 22: know it's not right. I'm working through it. Okay, Dad,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 22: Well we're going to help you out. You know, I
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 22: made a mistake things like that. It's just apologizing is huge.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 10: Right.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 22: My son would prefer me to apologize and be right
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 22: all the time because I want to teach him how
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 22: to apologize. So you're not going to break every chain, right.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 22: It is just a process, and really it comes from
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 22: you being transparent and vulnerable. And this exactly the story
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 22: you just said telling your kids that like, hey, I'm
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 22: trying to change these things. This is the way i am.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 22: So be patient with Dad. I'm working on it, and
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 22: that's all you can do.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: You think a lot of Black families confuse survival with healing.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 22: I don't know if they confuse survival with healing. I
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 22: think they. I think they confuse healing with religion. So
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 22: survival is just how we live. I think we confuse
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 22: maybe survival with our culture, like we have a as
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 22: black culture. A lot of things we do are survival based,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 22: so we can confuse those. But I don't think they
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 22: confuse survival with healing. I think people think that healing
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 22: is either church based or you have to be on
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 22: somebody's couch going through therapy all the time. When This
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 22: is what healing is. Healing is a change in perspective.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 22: That's all that healing is. It means you can see
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 22: something differently where you saw it, you know, as a curse.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 22: Now that I have a better understanding, I can see
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 22: it as a blessing. Two things can still be true.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 22: It did hurt me, but now I've learned from it.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 22: I have a new skill from it. Things of that nature. Right,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 22: So I think that's how we don't really have a
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 22: a And we think healing means if something is black,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 22: we can make it white. That's what I mean that
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 22: we look at it in religion. That's why we want,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 22: Oh want my mother to change. Why can't she change,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 22: like just flip a switch. I'm gonna pray for her.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 22: She's gonna be different. I mean, that's not how it
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 22: happens things. When you get pregnant, it takes not much.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 22: You're not gonna pray a baby to be born. We
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 22: don't know about to happen it one time, you know,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 22: So we don't look at people evolving in that same way.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 22: But healing in a miracle is a change in perspective.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 22: So healing your mother wound is not changing your mother
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 22: it is changing your perspective about the relationship and changing
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 22: the perspective you have about yourself because how my mother
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 22: saw herself, she taught me to see myself that way.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 6: It's just my personal opinion. I feel like the parents
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 6: are the first people that traumatize you if they're not
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 6: doing it right. Yes, absolute thing you're talking about. You
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 6: talk about apologizing and admitting your mistake.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 4: That stuff I.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 22: Never heard, never heard, never, but it wasn't you have
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 22: to think again, they didn't even have the language for that.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 22: You have to think a housephone with the stream and
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 22: it's rotary. That's very limited. But so much has happened
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 22: in one or two generations that now we have so
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 22: many resources to us that we can understand things very differently.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 22: But they are the first people to traumatize us in
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 22: ways because they didn't have the tools, they didn't have
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 22: the skills, you know, but they still have to be
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 22: responsible for the impact.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: Having to go, you know, the psychological torture of having
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 4: to go pick a switch.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 21: My grandma, my aunt's always talk about having the.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 22: Switch if you hurt you, so you know what's worse
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 22: when they'll pick up anything and hit you. Switch I'll
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 22: go pick a switch because don't with a fly swater.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 21: Okay, okay, with a vacuum court.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 22: Thank you, you've been hit with a brood stick. Okay,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 22: all right?
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 4: Remember the big wooden spool.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 22: My mother she had a ruler and it was like
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 22: an eighteen inch ruler from her and it used to
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 22: belong to a man named mister Bell and had his
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 22: name on the back. So she would say, go get
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 22: miss the bell, lord. So when you was going to
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 22: get miss the bell, you was about to get your
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 22: ass to up. But that again is rooted in chattel slavery.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 22: That you punish someone, you change a behavior through physical
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 22: punishment and the removal of acceptance, the removal of affection,
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 22: the removal of attention. Actually that's more violent, they say
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 22: than physical punishment. When you remove your affection from a
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 22: child when they do something wrong, you know, or you
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 22: ignore them when they're in the house, that really causes
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 22: even even more damage. Right, But we weren't taught that
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 22: we were people who had feelings, and then we have
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 22: to think about people. Don't look at kids as human beings.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 22: You don't have feelings, you don't have emotions. Everybody's given
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 22: everything to you so you can just there's no reason
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 22: for you to make this mistake right. And that is
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 22: why is so important and that we have these conversations
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 22: because there are new pathways to parents, there are new
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 22: pathways to relate to each other.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 20: Now, what's the biggest thing you had to change about?
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 20: Like something you thought about yourself that you realize was
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 20: like from your mother room, that I.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 22: Wasn't worth loving, that I had to work to be loved,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 22: that I had to earn love, that I had to
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 22: be perfect, that everything had to be right, that I
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 22: couldn't make mistakes, that I didn't belong. That everybody else
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 22: could be loved, but I couldn't be loved. That everybody
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 22: else could get help, everybody else could fall down have
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 22: somebody help them get back up, but not me. That's
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 22: a heavy burden. And I think that's been the biggest
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 22: thing with this work is teaching other Black women like
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 22: you don't have to earn love, you don't have to
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 22: be a certain way to be loved. You can make
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 22: a mistake, you can be bad at something and you
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 22: can get better at it, and like it doesn't change
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 22: who you are, It doesn't change who you are. You
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 22: are not broken. Yeah, that was the biggest thing.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 6: You know, a lot of black people grew up hearing
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 6: things like what happens in this house, stayed in this house.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 6: How much damage has secrecy done to generations of family?
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 22: See, it has created secrets and more secrets, or more
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 22: secrets where people can't be authentic, where people can't be themselves,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 22: where you can't say when you're hurt. And what happens
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 22: is then you go out in the world and you
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 22: create more damage. But so much of that is is
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 22: the pride, you know, but that again is rooted in
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 22: the dehumanization of black people. That you have to show
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 22: up a certain way, and at one point it was
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 22: violent if you didn't have it right, you know what
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 22: I mean, off the rip and you have to update.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 22: That's what we have to change the culture of black
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 22: parenting because the secrecy is doing us way more harm
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 22: than we could ever imagine.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: You said that this where people can read. But you know,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: even me and my wife we wrote books on raising
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: our kids. But what I realized is everybody's family is different, right,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: everybody's kids are different.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: If that was the case, all my kids would be
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: the same.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 12: But they're not.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: So there really is no Emmanuel.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: But what I wanted to ask you is, you know,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: going through your page, I see that you have one
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: podcast that seemed like it really resonated, and I wanted
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: to ask you why you felt that way, right, And
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: it was episode twenty seven where it was how to
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: meet the needs your mother couldn't meet? Why did that
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: resonate so much with people?
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 13: Interview?
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: Why did that resonate so much with people? And what
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: is the fix for that?
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 13: I guess, I would say, or guess.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 22: It's a big deal because we have a dream of
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 22: who our mother could be, and we have a dream
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 22: of this relationship that could be, you.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 18: Know what I mean.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 22: And you know how you have Disney have the you
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 22: have Cinderella, of course you have all of that. That's us,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 22: Like it's so deeply like we want it so bad,
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 22: we want her to show up for us in a
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 22: certain way, so bad that we will neglect ourselves because
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 22: we think she'll get it. I can, if I can
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 22: show I can't do it, she'll pick up She'll pick
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 22: up the piece and she'll.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: Meet the need for me.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 22: It's like trying to toss the ball, you know, Aliu,
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 22: Aliu and the ball just keeps dropping and rolling, and
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 22: then you you have to come to the decision where
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 22: it's like, oh, I've got a mother myself. I've got
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 22: to let go of the fantasy of something that I
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 22: will never have. And that's a grief and a heartbreak.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 22: Like you, you've been your your heart broke a long
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 22: time ago, but you've been holding it together. And then
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 22: you finally realize, in order for me to take care
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 22: of myself, I've got to let my heart break. And
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 22: I'm not saying it's not good, but it's it's hard.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: I don't want to say be, but you could want
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: to be what you felt your mother or your father
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: left out in your life. Right, Like, for instance, right,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: my mom and dad did not talk to me as
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: a a quote unquote friend.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: They believe a child stays in a child place.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: I'm not your friend, right. So what happens is is
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: you kind of have that wall when something's going on.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: It's almost like there's a fear to talk to them
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: because you don't want to get in trouble. My kids
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: a little different. I'm like, tell me everything. Well, let's
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: tell me what's going on so we can help. Now
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: you might do you might get in trouble, but I
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: want you to talk. It's a different relationship. But I
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: learned that from not having that with my parents. So
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: it's kind of you learn it, you do.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 22: But not everybody learns it, not every You have to
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 22: also look at envy. You have been exposed to lots
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 22: of different things and people in situations that have taught
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 22: you that you have to communicate. Do you understand? So
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 22: I think all of those things make a difference as well.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 22: And yes it is good, but it's heartbreaking still. I mean,
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 22: that's like saying somebody dying, well, it is good that
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 22: they died because it made space for somebody else, but
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 22: it still don't earth they gone, So you take it
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 22: another space, you know, But for us you get to
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 22: say they died, they went to heaven. There's an ending, correct, Well,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 22: when that person is still alive and they live up
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 22: the road, but they're still I'm dead to them, They're
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 22: dead to me. What do you do with that type
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 22: of finite grief? That's what you have to manage to
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 22: live with, Like it's a weight that you carry, And
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 22: a lot of times women don't want to do the
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 22: work because they don't want to have to live in
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 22: that and blooms and blossoms can come from that, but they.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 20: I feel like that's where the generational passing down of
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 20: it happens, because like your mom doesn't even understand how
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 20: to show up for you because she didn't get it.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 20: And then when you're old enough to do it better
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 20: with your own kids and you're trying to teach it
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 20: to them, it's like they're older now, so they're not
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 20: under standing in there. But also like she don't even
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 20: under she doesn't even grasp the idea sometimes of like
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 20: what you're talking through because it's just not there right.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 22: And I also talk about this like we're animals, right,
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 22: just like dear different a horse parents, they're babies or
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 22: an elephant or a tiger, all those types of things.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 22: So I look at my job. My mother's job with
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 22: me was to get me to a certain point. I
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 22: have released her from all responsibility. I know how to
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 22: take care of myself. She taught me certain skills. There's
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 22: certain things I've learned. You know, I can go out
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 22: in the jungle and I can hunt because of her.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 22: I'm thankful for that. So now for me to say
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 22: and I want us to sit on the phone and
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 22: I tell you all my dark secrets and you'll be
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 22: there and you'll do this and you won't that like
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 22: I'm asking too much.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 20: But you're okay with that. Every day done because I
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 20: feel like I'm working through that right now. But some
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 20: days I don't feel like that.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 22: I don't it's time. I'm this what I'm eleven years
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 22: in the game, you know what I mean. It's like
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 22: a muscle you gotta build, Lauren, and it does get hard,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 22: and that's why we talk about well when you have kids,
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 22: but it's so important for you to repair the inner
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 22: little girl. That's what this work is really all about
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 22: in building community. Because we're putting our happiness in the
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 22: hands of someone who can't hold it, doesn't mean that
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 22: we can't have happiness. It's so important to risk it
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 22: with other people, to learn to be vulnerable with other people,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 22: to let them hold you, to let them help you,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 22: to be there for you. But that's a skill set.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 22: I mean, I'm learning so many things for the first
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 22: time in my forties. In my fifties, I ain't gonna
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 22: it's hard, and I have a child that I raise alone.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 22: At the same time, me tired Okay, but it's so
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 22: worth it because what you're gonna do, you're gonna hold
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 22: try and hold that hurt when you eighty. So if
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 22: it's hard now, when I'm fifty, Okay, when I'm seventy,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 22: I'm gonna be chilling, right, So you just gotta you
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 22: gotta look at it in a more long term way.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 4: Jennifer our Nicee.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 6: First of all, she got a book out called That Cape,
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 6: The Grown Woman's Unapologize.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 4: They're putting herself first.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: Okay, conversation, make sure pick that up.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 6: Thanks. Subscribe to the Black Mother Wound podcast on the
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 6: Black Effect Podcast Network.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 4: You are having some necessary conversation.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 22: Absolutely, And I have a live event coming in Charlotte
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 22: in July. It's on July the eleven. We're doing a
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 22: live podcast recording, fireside chat, live coaching. So you can
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 22: go to my website over at blackmother Wound dot com
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 22: or Jennifer Arniece dot com and you can get a ticket,
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 22: bring a friend, tell a friend, and tell a friend.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 4: Absolutely. Subscribe to the Black Mother Womb podcast. Definitely.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: Nif it's the breakfast club, good morning.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 6: Yes, it's the one most dangers wanting to show the
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  Speaker 6: breakfast Club dj NV just hilarious, Charlamagne to God and
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 6: I got my guy.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 8: Man.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 6: He just launched Body by Jake Ray Video and partnership
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 6: with iHeartMedia.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 4: Jake Steinfeld is head. What's up?
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 12: Man's doing?
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 4: I am blessed, black and highly favord. How I love it?
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 20: Man?
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 4: You see it?
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 12: You see you?
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 4: You met Laura before, Lauren t for sure?
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 12: Lord? How you doing it? Look great?
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 16: Thank you?
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 12: I'm blessed looking look looking very snappy.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 21: Today was my dress down day, but I'll take it.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 12: Oh, you know, looking great.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 4: Jake is just lying to you, make you feel better.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 4: That's what he does. You know what I'm saying. He
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 4: providessparation to people.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 3: Okay, talking to.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 21: Him about the hairlineuraged.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 4: I'm just gonna let him go selling motivation for decades.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 4: He knows what to say to get you going. Okay,
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 4: we have it.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 21: So then let's talk about the Body by Jake Radio. Right,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 21: So what type?
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 20: Because I mean you got so much experience, we just
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 20: heard a lot of it. What what is the like,
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 20: the what's your niece like?
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 21: What is the constant?
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 12: I mean, the assence of it is this? My wife
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 12: and I are living in Century City, California. Now, so
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 12: you know we're like in the city, and you know
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 12: in LA you're in a car pretty much all day long. Anyway,
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 12: I'm in a car even longer, and I'm driving a lot,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 12: and I'm looking for something to kind of listen to.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 12: I love late seventies, eighties and nineties music, and I
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 12: was looking for something that it was kind of quiet
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 12: or just I can to cool my brain down. Man,
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 12: you know this is Mental Health month, right, you know
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 12: the most health underutilized Antidepressed and his exercise. Right, if
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 12: you're mad or say had an angrier stress, just move
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 12: your body because when you're move in your body, you
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 12: know the doorphins start popping. You stand up a little
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 12: bit straight, right, you get that smile back. That's up
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 12: with spirals success. And there was nothing on the dial
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 12: that I found that had just encompassed some motivating tips
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 12: of things like that. And Ted Turner, who just passed away,
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 12: was my mentor he was He put me on TV.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 12: In nineteen eighty one, I did the Fitness break Man
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 12: the Fitness Break on Cable News Network, which ran four
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 12: times a day in the States in about ten twelve
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 12: times an hour around.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 4: The world and.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 12: It was me with two models on a beach in Malibu.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 12: And I was able to parlay that into videos and
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 12: television shows. And I had a dream to create a
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 12: television network and went back to TED. Remember headline News, right,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 12: the one hour wheel that they used to do. I
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 12: used that platform to launch a fitness television network. Cut
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 12: to all the way back, all these years, and here
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 12: we are today. I'm in the car and I'm thinking
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 12: about this, and I said, I'm going to launch Body
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 12: by Jake Radio. I'm gonna do it just the way
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 12: I did it with Fit TV. People are so desperate
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 12: for hope today. Everybody is in lots of people are
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 12: in a bad place. You know, you got that black
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 12: cloud over your head, You're in a deep dok ditch,
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 12: You're not feeling great about yourself. Change is rough and
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 12: change is tough. But you know, when you get the
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 12: right motivation and the right inspiration and the right tools,
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 12: that's when change can happen. So I thought, what if
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 12: we created a platform where there were these nuggets of
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 12: mental health tips, wellness tips, longevity tips, nutrition tips, all
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 12: wrapped in great music, twenty four hours a day, seven
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 12: days a week, where I wake you up in the
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 12: morning and we put you to bed at night. And
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 12: the overnight kind of programming, if you will, is more relaxation.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 12: It's more kind of calming music and things like that.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 12: And you know, Chart, Look, I've been doing your show
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 12: for a bunch. You've always talked about iheartman, and here
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 12: I am, and it's amazing to be part of this family.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 12: I'm day four into it, man, and the response has
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 12: been tremendous. And I'm sure your audience knows. They all
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 12: have the Heart Radio app. It's free. Just search Body
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 12: by Jake Radio and do a little preset on it
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 12: and check it out.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 6: You know, Jack, you you've been selling motivation for decades,
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 6: right like way before people on the internet social media
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 6: made everybody a fake life codes guru, fitness wellness expert.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 6: What's the biggest difference between real discipline, input and performative wellness?
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 12: Well, that's you know, it's a great question. I think
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 12: it's about being authentic. I really do, you know, I
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 12: see a lot of this stuff. I think the reason
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 12: why I did come back in this way is because
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 12: I just get concerned for people. You know, when people
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 12: are in a weak state and they're not feeling great
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 12: about themselves. They'll they'll, they'll, they'll cross the desert trying
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 12: to find water, right, and because someone told them to.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 12: And I get very bothered by that, man, And I
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 12: take it, and I take it personally. Look, I'm an entrepreneur.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 12: So you know, if you about opportunity and you have
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 12: an idea and you want to go kick ass out there,
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 12: go and do it, but do it right, do it straight.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 12: You know, there's a lot of people out there who
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 12: need help, who want help. Today, all these glp ones right,
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 12: people are losing weight, which is awesome. Man. I used
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 12: to do shows looking at the camera. I did seventeen
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 12: years on Home Shopping Network. You know, I'd look at
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 12: the camera and I'd say, there's no magic pill.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 8: You know.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 12: Today there's a magic pill, right, And but what happens
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 12: is it's moderation. You've got to do all of this
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 12: in moderation. And people are losing the weight and they're
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 12: wanting to start exercising, which is really terrific. But a
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 12: lot of people take advantage of people like this. A
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 12: lot of people try to take advantage of people. In
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 12: a week in state, and that's why I thought, with
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 12: an opportunity and a proposition, and a position like I
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 12: have here with iHeart and Universal music with Body by
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 12: Jake Radio.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 4: We do for free and we.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 12: Give you these tips and they're simple, that life tips
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 12: you know that you can incorporate into your lifestyle. That
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 12: just gets you on the road. It's about that first step.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 12: It's about you getting up and taking a step. You
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 12: take that step forward, you take two steps forward, and
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 12: then three and four and five, and then you start
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 12: to say to yourself, if I did that, what else
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 12: could I do with my day? What else could I
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 12: do with my life? And that's how it all starts.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 12: So it's authentic because you can't buy authentic and you
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 12: can't buy trust. And that's what I've always felt that,
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 12: you know, I mean, I've been around a long time,
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 12: so you know, I've seen a lot of a lot
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 12: of people come and go and you just got to
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 12: be straight when you think.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 4: About this magic feel you know, ozimpic area.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 6: Do you think people still want transformation or they want
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 6: they want the shortcuts?
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 4: You think they're really willing to put.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 12: That work in. Unfortunately, I agree with what you're saying, man.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 12: I think that most humans look for the shortcut. Everybody
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 12: want to get paid, but nobody want to work, you know.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 12: And it's just I think it's human nature and there's
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 12: a lot of people built that way. And look, exercise
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 12: is boring, man, and exercise is hard. You know, I'm
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 12: whacked out of my mind. I'm in a gym at
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 12: four point fifteen in the morning. Is that's what I do?
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 8: You know?
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 12: It's a forty two minute workout and I bang eyeing
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 12: around for forty two minutes. That's my drug, that's my medicine.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 12: And I do a cardio muscular workout.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 4: Together.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 12: I visualize what I have to do during the day,
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 12: so the reps go away, and when I'm done, my
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 12: head is right and I'm ready to go. But what
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 12: I tried to propose or put out to people is
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 12: everybody is very different and what works, you know for you,
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 12: it's not going to work for me. And find something
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 12: that works for you to fit into your lifestyle, to
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 12: fit into your game plan, not somebody else's program jamming
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 12: into your life, because it'll it will never work that way.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 20: What's the balance between because now people want mental health
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 20: and they also want physical health, right, what is there
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 20: a real healthy balance between the two that makes a
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 20: person feel better.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 12: Yeah, that's a great question. I think when you're when
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 12: you're when you're exercising, you know when you're feeling because
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 12: the exercise, you know, gets those endolphins working and your
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 12: mental health is your your You just feel better when
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 12: your body is moving, you know, all the joints are working,
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 12: and as simple as taking a walk, you know, if
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 12: you're feeling stressed out, it changes your whole mindset, It
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 12: really does. And I know you guys have millions of
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 12: listeners and millions of people, millions of fans who watch you,
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 12: who listen to every word you all say. And I
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 12: think it's just imperative to this moment, because life is
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 12: about moments. To take this moment and to think that
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 12: and kind of reload, restart. You know, you went to
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 12: bed last night maybe not feeling so great. You know,
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 12: you went to bed last night saying, I gotta figure
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 12: something out. My life is not right, my life is
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 12: not working right, and I want to make a change.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 12: And for some reason or you tune into the show
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 12: every morning now and here I am, and this could
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 12: be the moment, you know, because life is about moments.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 6: I feel like body by Jake Radio is more about
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 6: mental health than physical. It feels like it's more about
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 6: mental survival than one hundred.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 12: Yeah, this is not an exercise. Listen if you want to.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 12: I want you to be listening to this when you're
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 12: on a train coming in the morning, if you're in
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 12: your car, walking a dog, sitting in the house. All
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 12: the zoomies, you know who at home by themselves, you
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 12: know on zoom calls nine hours a day by themselves.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 12: Put body by Jake Radio on. It's it's great music.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 12: And the little nuggets are just kind of speckled around. Man,
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 12: and you know, four or five times an hour, and
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 12: it's like, you know, you know, I just saw a
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  Speaker 12: city your hall a couple of weeks ago. He's my guy,
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  Speaker 12: He's the greatest, said his book is terrific, by the way, man,
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  Speaker 12: And and you know you should do a show. And
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  Speaker 12: that that little SEGMENTY did the things that make you
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  Speaker 12: go hmm. Remember that, that's what I That's what I
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  Speaker 12: took from every one of the nuggets. I just want
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  Speaker 12: you to go, huh oh yeah I could fit this.
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  Speaker 12: Oh hey, I didn't know that, you know. And and
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  Speaker 12: that's just what that is. So if you want to
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  Speaker 12: go work out to to this, you can. But if
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  Speaker 12: you just want to listen to Body by Jake Radio,
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  Speaker 12: that's that's really what it's all about. But it's going
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  Speaker 12: to get your body and your mind moving, like you
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  Speaker 12: were saying, because mental health and physical health are combined, right,
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  Speaker 12: because when you have them both, man, you're working at full,
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  Speaker 12: full speed, full full tilt.
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  Speaker 6: So listen you You now have the Body by Radio
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  Speaker 6: app on the iHeartRadio app.
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  Speaker 12: It is launched.
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  Speaker 4: It's ready to go. It provides motivation at every level
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  Speaker 4: of the day.
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  Speaker 6: It gives listeners energy to conquer the morning, keeps them
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  Speaker 6: going through the afternoon and into the evening. You heard
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  Speaker 6: Jake say, it's a it's a diverse mix of music
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  Speaker 6: and specialty programming and you know, just.
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  Speaker 4: Jewels to help you get through the day.
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  Speaker 12: Man, I love it. Jewels to help you get through
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  Speaker 12: the day.
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  Speaker 4: That's right.
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  Speaker 12: And you guys are great. You know, I'm just taking
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  Speaker 12: off of what you're doing, man, Searl. You done a
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  Speaker 12: great job. You continue to do a great job and
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  Speaker 12: expanding the empire. You what's next?
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  Speaker 4: Movies? But yeah, yeah, absolutely producing or producing of course.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You introduced me to a couple of great people.
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  Speaker 12: Well, yeah, we got well man, you know that's that's exciting. Man,
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  Speaker 12: I think that that's that's really amazing. You know, I
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  Speaker 12: walked the halls here at iHeart now you know these
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  Speaker 12: last few days, and if I had two dollars, every
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  Speaker 12: time someone me is Charlemagne's name, it's like, well, you
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  Speaker 12: know Charlomage, Well you know what Charlamage does it? Well,
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  Speaker 12: that's the format that Charlamage like many.
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  Speaker 4: Good to me up here.
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  Speaker 12: Well, you know what it's it's really unbelievable. And you
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  Speaker 12: know they said it, you know, Bob Pittman said it,
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  Speaker 12: John Zellner said it. You know, Joe said the same thing.
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  Speaker 12: You know, once you become part of his family, a
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  Speaker 12: lot of things open room. And it's true. I see
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  Speaker 12: it early. And I've been doing, like I said, what
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  Speaker 12: I've been doing for a long time, dealt with a
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  Speaker 12: lot of corporations, and it's I've never felt this kind
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  Speaker 12: of warmth. But to see what you guys have done
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  Speaker 12: with the publishing and uh and just how you've really
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 12: intertwined your brand, because that's really what what what works?
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  Speaker 12: What what do you think the key is? And for
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 12: you and for you and your brand to become as
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  Speaker 12: successful as you become, well are.
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  Speaker 4: You just talking's great? Media?
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  Speaker 6: Keeping the main thing, the main thing, which is radio,
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  Speaker 6: like radio is the foundation that all those other houses
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  Speaker 6: are built on. If radio was a true tree, all
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  Speaker 6: the other stuff would be free fruit. The books and
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  Speaker 6: the even the podcasting and you know, the production companies,
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  Speaker 6: all of that is just fruit off the foundation and
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  Speaker 6: the tree of radio.
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  Speaker 12: So so the foundation is this radio show, thee and
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  Speaker 12: everything comes off of that.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 12: So if you were to recommend to an entrepreneur at home,
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  Speaker 12: who who's who's you know who listens to you guys
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  Speaker 12: all the time, you know, saying, man, you know I
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  Speaker 12: got to be the next Charlamade? What do you What
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  Speaker 12: do you say? I mean, no, No, you're right, because
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 12: there's already one Charlamagne be who you are? Right? But
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 12: what what is the recommendation in the world we live
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  Speaker 12: in today of how this person gets started?
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  Speaker 4: Find a purpose? You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 6: Like your purpose? I think nowadays everybody's purpose is, you know,
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  Speaker 6: just to make money. Everybody's purposes Oh I just want
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  Speaker 6: to be seen or get the most followers. Like, No,
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  Speaker 6: what is your actual true purpose? What is your true intentional.
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  Speaker 6: Why are you doing what it is? Yes, you know
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  Speaker 6: you're doing or why do you want to do these things?
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  Speaker 4: Like if you got it? Like this body by Jake
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  Speaker 4: Radio is purpose driven?
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  Speaker 6: Yes, what we do at Black Effect is purpose driven,
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  Speaker 6: Like what is your actual purpose?
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  Speaker 4: Find your purpose?
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  Speaker 12: And you know now Black Effect has been you just
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  Speaker 12: have to fit that aniversary, yes sir, So you're going
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  Speaker 12: to the top of the six yeah, top of the shit.
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  Speaker 12: And what are we looking forward.
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  Speaker 6: To just the evolution of podcasting in general, Like when
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 6: you look at like what these screaming platforms are doing,
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 6: like you know, the partnerships we have with Netflix, and
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 6: there's a lot of other screaming platforms that's going to
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 6: get in that game as well. So just you know,
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 6: showing people how to do the audio part of it,
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 6: which is the podcasting, but then also expanding to the
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 6: video side, which is the podcasting, but also taking those
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 6: podcast creators and creating other forms of content with them,
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 6: because it's like those are the new stars.
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  Speaker 4: Those are the new people that's that's moving things.
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  Speaker 6: So they're the ones that need to be in those
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 6: television starting in those television vehicles and those movie vehicles and.
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  Speaker 4: Hosting the reality shows and game shows and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 12: But at the essence is have a purpose.
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  Speaker 4: You gotta have a purpose to have a purpose, a purpose.
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  Speaker 12: And you got to have that tree. Which so for
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 12: that person, it's the first seed, that's right, and the
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 12: first seed is the purpose that's right.
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  Speaker 6: Like for you it is your Brandy j So now
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 6: you created an extension of that, which is Body by
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  Speaker 6: Jake Radio.
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  Speaker 12: That's it, that's right, that's exactly right.
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  Speaker 4: I just turn into you interview with me, Jake.
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  Speaker 21: I'm sitting here.
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  Speaker 4: God man, make sure y'all support Body by Jake Radio.
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  Speaker 4: Always a pleasure to see you, Jay, Hey man, it's
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 4: so great. Thank you. Absolutely, guys, you're the best.
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  Speaker 12: So great to see it.
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  Speaker 4: It's Jake Steinfelder's the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 3: Hopefully you guys have a great Memorial Day.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, man, I hope you'll have a great Memorial Day.
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  Speaker 6: I hope you had a great Memorial weekend. Man, back
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  Speaker 6: to it tomorrow, that's right.
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  Speaker 17: Absolutely, And this weekend y'all can meet me at Mike
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  Speaker 17: Drop Comedy Plan.
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  Speaker 4: Oh.
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  Speaker 17: I'll be in Plano, Texas this Friday and this Saturday.
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  Speaker 17: We got four shows this weekend to Friday, to Saturday,
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  Speaker 17: So get your ticket, Shaw, And we can't in the
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  Speaker 17: show without.
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  Speaker 5: Saying rest in peace to George Floyd. He was tragically murdered.
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  Speaker 4: Totally murdered, tragically killed.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, you know, on the streets.
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  Speaker 4: Six years already. Yeah, wow, time be flying, It definitely does.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I'm still sending healing energy to his family.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: Now you've got a positive I do.
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  Speaker 4: Man. I just want to salute to the US military.
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  Speaker 6: I just want to remind the US military that they
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  Speaker 6: swear in open of allegiance to the US Constitution in
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  Speaker 6: the nation, not the president. Okay, the president serves as
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  Speaker 6: commander in chief, but the military exists to protect the
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  Speaker 6: country and is accountable to the public it serves. So
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  Speaker 6: thank you all for your service, and please remember that
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  Speaker 6: a hero is someone who understands the responsibility that comes
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  Speaker 6: with his freedom.
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  Speaker 4: Have a great day. The Breakfast Club
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