Latest / What the Flux / RBA pushes rates to 15-year high | Cochlear hit with shareholder class action | AI-agent Instinct quadruples value in 1 month
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Thank you.
- 0:05Speaker 2: This is The Flux. I'm Brett.
- 0:07Speaker 1: And I'm Justin. And it's Wednesday the 30th of September.
- 0:09Speaker 3: Jazzy boy, Treasurer Jim Chalmers is about to set a
- 0:12Speaker 3: new record. Just not the kind Australians are actually going
- 0:14Speaker 3: to celebrate. He's on track to become the highest taxing
- 0:17Speaker 3: treasurer in Australian history. Tax is expected to surpass 24%
- 0:21Speaker 3: of the entire economy for the first time ever. So no,
- 0:24Speaker 3: it's not just you. The tax man really is taking
- 0:26Speaker 3: a bigger slice of the pie.
- 0:27Speaker 1: But a little personal note from me before we kick
- 0:30Speaker 1: off today's pod. After more than six years, 1,500 episodes,
- 0:33Speaker 1: and a whole lot of laughs, and a few cries,
- 0:35Speaker 1: I'm going to be moving on from Flux and the
- 0:37Speaker 1: pod in two weeks' time. Now, the show's obviously still
- 0:39Speaker 1: in great hands with Brett, Marissa, and the rest of
- 0:41Speaker 1: the Flux team, and I'll most certainly be listening. Now
- 0:44Speaker 1: that I don't need to hear the sound of my
- 0:45Speaker 1: own voice on it, but I've still got two more
- 0:47Speaker 1: weeks with you, I'll definitely make them count.
- 0:49Speaker 3: Obviously very sad, Jazzy Boy. It's been an amazing journey.
- 0:52Speaker 3: I think between you and I, we've hardly missed any
- 0:54Speaker 3: episodes over the last six years. So Flux fam, it
- 0:57Speaker 3: is obviously a big change, but the Flux team is
- 0:59Speaker 3: very excited about the future of the pod. We've got
- 1:01Speaker 3: some big ideas in mind and can't wait to share
- 1:03Speaker 3: those with you in time.
- 1:04Speaker 2: And on that note, Jazzy Boy, three massive stories today.
- 1:07Speaker 1: Let's do it.
- 1:08Speaker 2: For our first.
- 1:09Speaker 3: The RBA has hiked rates for the fourth time this year,
- 1:11Speaker 3: pushing the cash rate to 4.6%, its highest level since 2011.
- 1:16Speaker 1: Spring has sprung and so have interest rates, B-Man. So
- 1:19Speaker 1: tell me more.
- 1:19Speaker 3: Well, Jazzy Boy, the RBA meets eight times a year
- 1:22Speaker 3: to set the cash rate after looking at a heap
- 1:24Speaker 3: of data about the health of the Australian economy, including inflation.
- 1:27Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, B-Man, the cash rate started 2026 at 3.6%.
- 1:31Speaker 1: Then it hiked three times to hit 4.35%.
- 1:34Speaker 2: Then the RBA hit pause twice. But the pause button.
- 1:37Speaker 1: Was officially unpressed yesterday, Arvo, with the RBA lifting the
- 1:40Speaker 1: cash rate to 4.6%. percent in a unanimous decision that.
- 1:43Speaker 2: Is the highest it's been since november 2011.
- 1:46Speaker 1: And australia now has the unenviable title of the second
- 1:49Speaker 1: highest cash rate in the developed world behind iceland.
- 1:53Speaker 3: Yeah to put that into some historical context the last
- 1:55Speaker 3: time rates were this high adele was singing someone like
- 1:58Speaker 3: you instagram was basically just photos of brunch with a
- 2:01Speaker 3: filter australians were planking on things for reasons that no
- 2:04Speaker 3: one can explain and b man it.
- 2:06Speaker 1: Ain't over either because based on the rba governor's press
- 2:08Speaker 1: conference it feels like a a couple more rate rises
- 2:11Speaker 1: are likely over the next six months.
- 2:12Speaker 3: So, Jazzy, if we run the numbers, someone with an
- 2:15Speaker 3: average mortgage of $ 736, 000 is now paying about $ 430 more
- 2:20Speaker 3: a month than in January this year.
- 2:23Speaker 1: Or $ 5, 000 more per year.
- 2:25Speaker 3: But it's not just about what's leaving your bank account.
- 2:27Speaker 3: The increased cash rate also impacts how rich you feel. Mmm.
- 2:30Speaker 1: So what is the key learning here?
- 2:31Speaker 3: The wealth effect is the change in consumer spending when
- 2:34Speaker 3: people perceive themselves to be wealthier or poorer.
- 2:37Speaker 1: The wealth effect isn't just about how much money you have.
- 2:39Speaker 1: It's about how wealthy you feel. So, B-Man, these rate
- 2:41Speaker 1: hikes hit in two ways. The first is very real.
- 2:44Speaker 1: More of your pay goes straight to your mortgage. That's
- 2:46Speaker 1: money you literally can't spend on dinners or holidays or
- 2:49Speaker 1: a new couch.
- 2:50Speaker 2: The second is more mental.
- 2:51Speaker 1: Yeah. You see, B-Man, home values fell in 93% of
- 2:54Speaker 1: capital city suburbs over winter this year. And when the
- 2:57Speaker 1: value of a mortgage holder's home is less, borrowers tend
- 3:01Speaker 1: to feel poorer and then tighten the purse strings. Less
- 3:03Speaker 1: retail therapy, less holidays, less guac on your burrito.
- 3:06Speaker 3: And this has a flow-on effect to retailers across the
- 3:08Speaker 3: Australian economy.
- 3:09Speaker 1: So, B-Man, today's hike hits Aussie twice. Once in the
- 3:12Speaker 1: bank account and once in the head.
- 3:14Speaker 3: For our second story, Cochlear, the Aussie hearing implant maker,
- 3:18Speaker 3: has been hit with a shareholder class action five months
- 3:21Speaker 3: after its share price fell off a cliff.
- 3:22Speaker 1: Cochlear shareholders making some noise here, B-Man. Tell me more.
- 3:26Speaker 3: Well, Cochlear is the ASX listed company behind the Bionic Ear,
- 3:29Speaker 3: and it's one of the biggest hearing implant makers on
- 3:31Speaker 3: the planet.
- 3:32Speaker 1: But five months ago, investors got an update they definitely
- 3:34Speaker 1: didn't like the sound of.
- 3:36Speaker 3: The company cut its profit guidance from as high as
- 3:38Speaker 3: 460 million bucks to as low as $ 290.
- 3:41Speaker 1: And why this sudden dramatic shift?
- 3:43Speaker 3: Well, they said it had already suffered softer sales and
- 3:46Speaker 3: there's also the uncertainty going on in the Middle East.
- 3:49Speaker 1: And then on the day of the announcement, their share
- 3:51Speaker 1: price dropped 40% or a lazy $ 4 billion. It was
- 3:54Speaker 1: their lowest share price in over a decade.
- 3:56Speaker 3: And now a group of shareholders has taken Cochlear to
- 3:58Speaker 3: the Supreme Court of Victoria.
- 4:00Speaker 1: On behalf of anyone who bought shares in the eight
- 4:02Speaker 1: months before the downgrade. But Bayman, Cochlear denies these allegations.
- 4:06Speaker 1: and says it'll defend the case because it reckons its
- 4:08Speaker 1: disclosures were A-OK. Interesting.
- 4:11Speaker 2: So what's the key learning here?
- 4:12Speaker 1: On the ASX, companies are allowed to have a bad year.
- 4:14Speaker 1: They just can't sit on dramatic news for very long.
- 4:17Speaker 3: Jazzy boy, listed companies have something called continuous disclosure obligations.
- 4:21Speaker 3: If they know something that would move the share price,
- 4:23Speaker 3: they generally have to tell the market pretty quickly.
- 4:26Speaker 2: No keeping secrets from your shareholders.
- 4:28Speaker 1: So BMN, how does a bad profit update end up
- 4:30Speaker 1: in court?
- 4:30Speaker 3: Well, these class actions usually argue the company knew things
- 4:34Speaker 3: were going south earlier than they actually let on.
- 4:36Speaker 1: Which means investors bought shares at a price that, in hindsight,
- 4:39Speaker 1: was too high.
- 4:40Speaker 2: And these cases just got a lot more serious.
- 4:42Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 4:42Speaker 1: In April this year, Brambles, the ASX-listed logistics provider, became
- 4:45Speaker 1: the first shareholder class action in Australia to win at trial.
- 4:49Speaker 3: That was after a court found that it didn't disclose
- 4:51Speaker 3: a known change in its profit guidance. So B-Man, this
- 4:54Speaker 3: case will come down to what Cochlear knew and when,
- 4:56Speaker 3: but Cochlear says it did nothing wrong. For our third
- 4:59Speaker 3: and final story, Instinct, the AI assistant that does your
- 5:03Speaker 3: life admin for you, has quadrupled its valuation to $ 10
- 5:06Speaker 3: billion in a month, and it doesn't even have an
- 5:08Speaker 3: app yet.
- 5:08Speaker 1: Investors really going with their gut instinct on this startup,
- 5:11Speaker 1: eh man? So tell me more.
- 5:12Speaker 3: So Instinct is an AI assistant launched as an invite-only
- 5:16Speaker 3: tool in August this year.
- 5:17Speaker 1: Yeah, it was founded by a 23-year-old who dropped out
- 5:19Speaker 1: of university to write research papers on AI agents.
- 5:23Speaker 2: And then he built Instinct.
- 5:24Speaker 1: And supposedly every man, woman, and dog in Silicon Valley
- 5:27Speaker 1: is talking about Instinct and begging for an invite.
- 5:29Speaker 2: You can book your travel, pay your bills, even cancel subscriptions.
- 5:33Speaker 1: Can't the others do that too?
- 5:34Speaker 3: Well, yes, but it's got its own phone number and
- 5:36Speaker 3: computer and can make calls on your behalf.
- 5:38Speaker 2: So it can sit on hold with Qantas for me?
- 5:40Speaker 1: That is revolutionary. Exactly.
- 5:42Speaker 2: And there's no app. You kind of just text like
- 5:44Speaker 2: you would to a friend.
- 5:45Speaker 1: But B-Man, the real story is how fast investors are
- 5:47Speaker 1: throwing money at Instinct.
- 5:49Speaker 3: About a month ago, Instinct raised capital at a $ 2. 5
- 5:52Speaker 3: billion US dollar valuation.
- 5:54Speaker 1: And now a month later, it's raised at a $ 10
- 5:56Speaker 1: billion US dollar valuation.
- 5:57Speaker 3: And may I add, Jazzy Boy, Instinct only has 14 employees.
- 6:01Speaker 3: So it's quadrupled its value in a month with no
- 6:02Speaker 3: app and no public user numbers. Sounds about right for
- 6:05Speaker 3: the AI hype. Yep.
- 6:06Speaker 2: And it's really worked that old invitation-only game.
- 6:09Speaker 1: So what is the key learning here?
- 6:10Speaker 3: Invitation-only means you can't just sign up to this product.
- 6:13Speaker 3: Someone has to let you in and it does two
- 6:15Speaker 3: very different jobs. Job one is the sensible one. It
- 6:18Speaker 3: slows growth down on purpose so the team can fix
- 6:20Speaker 3: bugs and learn what you actually want. Job two is
- 6:23Speaker 3: a bit of the cheeky one, making people desperate.
- 6:26Speaker 1: To get in.
- 6:26Speaker 2: That is called artificial scarcity.
- 6:28Speaker 1: And B-Man, I remember this back in 2021 when Clubhouse,
- 6:31Speaker 1: the social audio app, succeeded with this marketing ploy.
- 6:35Speaker 2: Yep, invites were listed on eBay for hundreds of dollars.
- 6:37Speaker 1: Once Clubhouse opened the doors to everyone, the buzz fizzled
- 6:40Speaker 1: pretty quickly. So for instinct, the exclusive invite list buys
- 6:44Speaker 1: them time to refine the product and build a whole
- 6:46Speaker 1: lot of hype and raise a whole lot of money
- 6:48Speaker 1: before the broader launch.
- 6:49Speaker 3: But Jazzy Boy, the real test is whether people stick
- 6:51Speaker 3: around once... There is no Q.
- 6:53Speaker 1: Fluxam, there is so much movement this year from the RBA,
- 6:56Speaker 1: lifting the cash rate four times. So there is a
- 6:58Speaker 1: lot of information out there. We break it all down
- 7:00Speaker 1: in the Flux app, explaining why the RBA made their
- 7:03Speaker 1: decision and whether the Federal Reserve in the US had
- 7:05Speaker 1: any impact. So if you want to learn more about
- 7:07Speaker 1: the RBA's big decision, make sure to download the Flux
- 7:09Speaker 1: app and check out our latest articles.
- 7:10Speaker 2: Thanks for listening and we'll see you on Friday.