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Tamra's OUT, Lisa Barlow Pouts, and what is RHOBH all about (this season)? · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos Kings,
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  Speaker 1: the King of Reality TV and one of the most
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  Speaker 1: sought after executive producers in reality television with over ten
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  Speaker 1: years a production experience. Twice a week on Reality with
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  Speaker 1: the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the
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  Speaker 1: entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows, and revisit unforgettable
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  Speaker 1: moments that we are still talking and tweeting about.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, rain Drops.
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  Speaker 1: On today's episode of Reality with the King, I am
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  Speaker 1: back with Gibson John as we break down all things.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Gibson, I know that people love it when we
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  Speaker 3: came up, Carlos, So I'm happy to be here.
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  Speaker 4: I really am.
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  Speaker 2: Always I know how you've been. It's been a bit.
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  Speaker 2: As I've seen you, I mean, I mean I.
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  Speaker 1: Follow you on social so I've seen you are like
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  Speaker 1: at every event, premiere, a wedding, a restaurant, like.
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  Speaker 4: You're on Yeah, I stay outside, okay, Like.
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  Speaker 3: There's just no other way, Like that's just the only
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  Speaker 3: way I know how to live my life, you know,
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  Speaker 3: just like.
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  Speaker 4: Always be doing something.
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  Speaker 3: It's you know, life too short, so I'm saying yes
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  Speaker 3: to most things. But it's been it's been like too,
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  Speaker 3: I've been too busy, Carlos like, it's it's I want
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  Speaker 3: to I'm creating my routine.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm back in New York and I'm just keeping
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  Speaker 4: it a little chill right now. How are you.
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  Speaker 2: I'm good. I'm outside, Okay, not doing what you're doing.
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing other.
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  Speaker 3: Things cryptic as ever. Okay, I'm overwhelmed with the detail.
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  Speaker 4: I really am.
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm just like, it's like, is everything you said.
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  Speaker 2: I'm enjoying life.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to figure things out on a personal level.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, things are just like things are being
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  Speaker 1: figured out, and I'm having fun figuring all things out.
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  Speaker 4: And I love that for you. That's fabulous.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen.
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  Speaker 1: Not everyone's able to, like, you know, have a long relationship.
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  Speaker 2: The way Tamar Judge does have a Bravo. But does
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  Speaker 2: she love a transition.
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  Speaker 4: I was about to say that was artful, that was yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That WHOOPI Goldberg, watch your job. I'm coming for you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a moderator and I know how to segue to
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  Speaker 1: a topic conversation.
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  Speaker 2: So here we go.
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  Speaker 1: In we have to get into all the Bravo talk
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  Speaker 1: before we dive into the latest episode of the Real
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  Speaker 1: Housewives of Beverly Hills.
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  Speaker 2: So, Gibson, let's get into it.
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  Speaker 1: So you and I are huge fans of hers, and
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  Speaker 1: she's a friend of mine as well.
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  Speaker 2: I love Tama Judge.
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  Speaker 1: We defend her and her relevance and her position on
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  Speaker 1: the OC. But as we have learned recently, Tama Judge
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  Speaker 1: announced that she quit the Real Housewives of One County
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  Speaker 1: in the middle of a cast trip in New Orleans.
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  Speaker 1: Tama Judge captioned Gibson and I quote, it was a
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  Speaker 1: long run. When life gives you real problems. This reality
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  Speaker 1: shit doesn't make sense.
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  Speaker 2: Peace out.
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  Speaker 4: I'm out with the literal peace sign emoji.
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  Speaker 2: Literal pea side emoji.
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  Speaker 1: So look, I have been producing reality television for like
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  Speaker 1: seventeen eighteen years. I cannot tell you how many times
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  Speaker 1: a housewife, especially or reality star has quit in the
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  Speaker 1: middle of production, in the middle of a scene, and
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  Speaker 1: they come back the next day, or they come back
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  Speaker 1: two days later. In this case, Tama Judge announced it,
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  Speaker 1: and then she kind of doubled down on it when
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  Speaker 1: somebody asked her, girl, did you quit, and she wrote, yes. Gibson,
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  Speaker 1: what is your take on all of this?
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  Speaker 2: Matt Yeah, and.
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  Speaker 3: Then she posts the selfie from the airport with mental
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  Speaker 3: health is health, and like, listen, I feel two ways
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  Speaker 3: about it, because I think the online the reaction was
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  Speaker 3: like good riddens, like she's like get her out of
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  Speaker 3: there or whatever, like that seems to be the prevailing
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  Speaker 3: wisdom online. But I'm like, you know, on the one hand,
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  Speaker 3: she has a real big thing happening in her life,
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  Speaker 3: which is her co host, her business partner, and her
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  Speaker 3: best friends Teddy is literally has tumors in her body
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  Speaker 3: and is fighting the battle of her life, and so like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, that can't really be minimized, I think, and
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  Speaker 3: like I think everybody deals with stuff like that happening
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  Speaker 3: to their loved ones differently, and so clearly like she's
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  Speaker 3: probably in a fragile place already, and I'm sure her
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  Speaker 3: castmates are taking it to her this season, as you know,
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  Speaker 3: she kind of deserves to have it taken to her
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  Speaker 3: this season because of how she handled herself last season,
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  Speaker 3: what she did Shannon, And so it's like it's this
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  Speaker 3: thing of like she's getting a taste of her own medicine. Probably,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, we don't know the details of what's happening
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  Speaker 3: during filming, Like if she can't handle the heat, then
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  Speaker 3: she's getting out of the kitchen, And like the thing
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  Speaker 3: is like, I feel like Tamra can handle the heat.
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  Speaker 3: I know she's going through a lot, but I'm like
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  Speaker 3: it's this mixed thing where I'm sort of like I
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  Speaker 3: want her to stick it out because I know she
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  Speaker 3: has it in her, but also like recognizing that she
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  Speaker 3: is dealing with something really difficult.
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  Speaker 4: Teddy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so as you want to know, Teddy Mellercamp, the
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  Speaker 1: co hosts and her best friend of two Teas in
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  Speaker 1: a Pod has been hospitalized with growing tumors in her body.
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  Speaker 2: Had to have not even it does her body her brain.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and they found new ones in her lungs recently.
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  Speaker 4: It's like really bad.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, It's It's an awful situation that Teddy's going through too.
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  Speaker 1: Teas in a Pod. The reason why this show is
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  Speaker 1: so good is because of the chemistry between Teddy and Tamar,
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  Speaker 1: because they're friends in real life, and to do a
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  Speaker 1: show that is super successful with special guests on top
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  Speaker 1: of filming OC, I'm sure it's a lot for Tamra.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, my thoughts in prayers go out to Tamera.
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  Speaker 1: She recently revealed Gibson on her podcast to Teas in
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  Speaker 1: a Pod that she is going through a lot, and
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  Speaker 1: she did bring up what's going on with her best
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  Speaker 1: friend and fellow co host Teddy Mellencamp in addition to
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  Speaker 1: some other stuff she's going through. She broke down and
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  Speaker 1: cried as she was talking to Dolores from Jersey Housewives
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  Speaker 1: and mentioned that, you know, she's going through a lot
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  Speaker 1: of tough things, and you know she's a She's a
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  Speaker 1: tough girl who can handle a lot, but with everything
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  Speaker 1: going on in her life right now, she just needed
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  Speaker 1: a break. She did mention as she was crying that
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  Speaker 1: Teddy did reach out to her and gave her which,
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  Speaker 1: which that's why I love Teddy. Like Teddy is fighting,
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  Speaker 1: you know, to get well, but Teddy still found time
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  Speaker 1: to pour into her girl, and Tamra said that Teddy
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  Speaker 1: told her, if I have to go through this and
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  Speaker 1: look like whatever, then you know I want you to
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  Speaker 1: get back in there. So shout out to Teddy for
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  Speaker 1: even being in her position pouring into her friend. That's
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  Speaker 1: why I love Tamra. That's why I love Teddy. I
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  Speaker 1: love their friendship. That's why I always tell people. Look,
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  Speaker 1: I know that on social media, you know, it's a
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  Speaker 1: playground to really talk shit about them, but in real
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  Speaker 1: life they are good girls. So Tamra Judge, if you're listening,
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  Speaker 1: you are my friend. I love you, and if you
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  Speaker 1: need somebody to talk to, you know where to find me.
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  Speaker 2: I love, love, love you. And Teddy Mellichamp. It goes
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  Speaker 2: without saying you are my girl.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a Teddy Bear or Teddy Graham, and I'm praying
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  Speaker 1: for you, sister.
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  Speaker 2: I love you, Gibson and my on a limb.
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  Speaker 1: If I make this declaration, I know you love all
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  Speaker 1: the girls like I do.
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  Speaker 2: I do watch your interviews.
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  Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 1: I do feel like of all of this Salt Lake
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  Speaker 1: City Housewives, Okay, I think Lisa Barlow's your favorite.
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  Speaker 4: You wouldn't be wrong to say that, I would.
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  Speaker 3: I would say, like, you know, I think that, like
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  Speaker 3: I view that cast as like everybody is very essential
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  Speaker 3: to that show. But ultimately, and I think we can
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  Speaker 3: all say this, we're all drawn to certain people more
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  Speaker 3: so than others. And like I have always been drawn
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  Speaker 3: to the Mayored athlesa contingent on that show since the
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  Speaker 3: first episode. And I don't know if it's because they
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  Speaker 3: have like kind of a New York sensibility about them,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like there's something about them that's.
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  Speaker 4: Kind of like that that that East Coast thing, and
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  Speaker 4: that's where I grew up, that's where I lived.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what it is, but Barlow, there is
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  Speaker 3: something about her that I you can never make me
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  Speaker 3: hate her basically.
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  Speaker 1: So so say that I'd be listening. You have good taste,
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  Speaker 1: my friend, You have good taste.
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  Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with nineteen C. Wait, seventeen C.
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  Speaker 4: Seventeen C.
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  Speaker 2: H okay, thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Seventeen C. Yes, I'm sorry, nineteen yees, seventeen C. The
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  Speaker 1: nineteen is how many times Daniel Stop was.
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  Speaker 3: Engaged, so exactly, Yeah, listen, there are a lot of
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  Speaker 3: numbers that we've been juggle as Housewives fans.
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  Speaker 4: And sometimes are wanting to get across.
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  Speaker 2: It's okay, thank you, so sorry to the icon that
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  Speaker 2: is Daniel Stopped.
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  Speaker 1: You've been engaged nineteen times. Lisa Barlow does not sit
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  Speaker 1: in seventeen C. I to love me some, Lisa Barlow.
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  Speaker 1: So there are rumors that has been trending on Twitter
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  Speaker 1: for the past three days, and the rumor is Lisa Barlow.
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  Speaker 1: It's not funny, but I'm gonna say this, this is
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  Speaker 1: so fucking bad.
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  Speaker 2: It's not funny, but it's the iconic.
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  Speaker 5: Lisa Barlow has not turned to the show because allegedly
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  Speaker 5: she wants a cumulative amount of a million dollars for
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  Speaker 5: the season, and she's not.
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  Speaker 1: Filming until she gets it. That's all alleged. That's a rumor.
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  Speaker 1: Unlike Tamera, Lisa Brono did not tweet anything. She hasn't
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  Speaker 1: posted anything. But the rumor is Lisa Barlow has not
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  Speaker 1: been filming. The rumor is that the Salt Lake City
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  Speaker 1: cast is currently on a cast trip and Lisa Barlow
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  Speaker 1: is not there. GiB said, what are your sources telling
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  Speaker 1: you about this particular rumor.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if you saw a couple hours ago
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  Speaker 4: on Twitter.
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  Speaker 3: Things move fast, somebody with the Twitter handle or somebody
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  Speaker 3: with a Twitter name of Predatory Headband. They said a
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  Speaker 3: friend of a friend is in Salt Lake City and
• 10:50
  Speaker 3: spotted Lisa and John filming, and there's a photo on
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  Speaker 3: Instagram story. There's a photo of them with a camera next.
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  Speaker 2: But is that a recent photo?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the implication is that this person's friend sent
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  Speaker 3: them the photo so again, and then so then I
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  Speaker 3: posted that. I was like, the world is healing, the
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  Speaker 3: crisis is over, because that would have been a crisis off.
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  Speaker 3: Lisa Barla wasn't on Salt Lake City. I will just
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  Speaker 3: say that. And it was reposted by a fan account
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  Speaker 3: and I put it on my story and somebody somebody
• 11:26
  Speaker 3: said it wasn't true that all the rumors. I said,
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  Speaker 3: because I had said, like, you know, the rumors were
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  Speaker 3: worrying me, and the person sad, not true.
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  Speaker 1: So that not true that she quit the show or
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  Speaker 1: was it filming, or that not true that that picture
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  Speaker 1: is recent of her filming.
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  Speaker 3: I think the rumors. The implication was the rumors were
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  Speaker 3: not true. Okay, that's just what this person told me.
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  Speaker 3: But it's what's also interesting about it. Well, one one
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  Speaker 3: of the clues was that apparently Lisa took Salt Lake
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  Speaker 3: City out of her Instagram bio. And it's one of
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  Speaker 3: those things where it's like, you know, in fan accounts, traffolck.
• 12:01
  Speaker 4: Who followed who, who unfollowed who? What?
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  Speaker 3: The nobody knows what her bio looked like before, you
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  Speaker 3: know what I mean, So like it was there. But
• 12:09
  Speaker 3: what's interesting is that Meredith is also not There was
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  Speaker 3: that one some of that footage of them all filming
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  Speaker 3: in like a hot springs or something with like beers
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  Speaker 3: and stuff, and it looked like they were all there
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  Speaker 3: except for Meredith.
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  Speaker 4: Lisa.
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  Speaker 3: Meredith is out here at like a Planet Hollywood opening
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  Speaker 3: in New York City, so she's also not in Salt
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  Speaker 3: Lake City right now. So like all the attentions on Lisa,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm like, I hope Meredith is also in the
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  Speaker 3: same boat or maybe should just late to film starting
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  Speaker 3: the season. I don't know, but if they touched that cast,
• 12:37
  Speaker 3: we write it, we write it.
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  Speaker 4: Don Anyways, Yes.
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  Speaker 1: But GiB said, this is the interesting thing. Did you
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: see Whitney's friend or makeup artist or could be both.
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  Speaker 1: I think your name is Adam. If I'm not mistake,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm talking.
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  Speaker 4: About the podcaster.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, he's the one that was on last season right
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  Speaker 3: with the whole Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I did see a clip of that somewhere. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So he alleged that Lisa Barlow is not filming and
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  Speaker 1: that she did want a lot of money. He's saying
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  Speaker 1: the rumors are true. He's close to I'm sorry, he's
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  Speaker 1: close to Whitney. Do we buy it or do we
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  Speaker 1: smell thirsty trap here?
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  Speaker 3: I have nothing against Adam, but like what he said
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  Speaker 3: last season was proved to be not true, so I
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  Speaker 3: don't I don't buy that at face value.
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  Speaker 4: I don't buy it.
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  Speaker 3: Like I'm listen, there could there easily could have been
• 13:41
  Speaker 3: some sort of contract thing, to be honest, Like I
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  Speaker 3: could see it happening.
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  Speaker 4: But like, and I think that that.
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  Speaker 3: Is honestly because I'm presuming that all of the ogs,
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  Speaker 3: the for Meredith, Lisa, Whitney, and Heather, I'm presuming they
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  Speaker 3: all get paid the same because they've all been on
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  Speaker 3: the show for the same amount of time. That's usually
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  Speaker 3: how that works, and that's something that's probably I could
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  Speaker 3: see that becoming more of like a factor here as
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  Speaker 3: they go on, of like some of them feeling like
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  Speaker 3: they're owed more because they think they do more or whatever.
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  Speaker 4: Like that's where when you're on a show for longer.
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  Speaker 3: I'm guessing you mean you've known the behind the scenes
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  Speaker 3: is like people feel entitled to a certain amount, you know,
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  Speaker 3: because of the work they do, and whether that's merited
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  Speaker 3: or not is completely up to them or subjective, I guess,
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  Speaker 3: But like I don't know that that must become more
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  Speaker 3: of a factor as people are on the show for
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  Speaker 3: longer and longer.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and listen, Oh absolutely so when listen.
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  Speaker 2: Ordinarily, if you start the show together.
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  Speaker 1: And it's an ensemble cast, nine times out of ten
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  Speaker 1: you all get paid the same.
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  Speaker 2: Now right now, now, m hm. Now, if you are
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  Speaker 2: Teresa Judie, yeah exactly, Yeah, you mag you a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more than the girls you start off with, No, Shay,
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  Speaker 2: if you're Ninny Leaks, you may a little bit more.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe, and maybe if you were Candy by the end there,
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: like she was making a lot. Yeah, everyone was saying
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: that she would always make a lot each season towards
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  Speaker 3: the end.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, so obviously there's there's exception to the rule.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be very honest here. I am obsessed with
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: Salt Lake City.
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: I got a chance to meet Bronwin with me, Angie
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: Kay who who I'm obsessed with, Mary who I'm obsessed with,
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  Speaker 1: And Lisa Barlow. I will say this, you said, what
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: is that? Yes, I will say this on the record.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: I loved Lisa barlowmore after meeting her because she is
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: everything in person that she is on the show, and
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: I find that to be amusing in the best compliment possible,
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  Speaker 1: because she's such a wonderful character on the show that
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: you sometimes are like, Okay, she's playing it up like
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: you met her Gibson, She's the exact same person. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with I'm obsessed with Lisa Barlow. Now do
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: I think the show can survive without Lisa Barlow?
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  Speaker 2: Let's have a real conversation.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: Can the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City survive without
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  Speaker 1: Lisa Barlow?
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  Speaker 2: Because if all of these rumors are true.
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  Speaker 1: That's the hand she's playing that you guys cannot do
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  Speaker 1: the show without me. I'm gonna say this, I'm being honest,
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  Speaker 1: and I love me some Lisa. I do think the
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: show can survive without Lisa, only because you could not
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: have told me the show was going to survive without
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  Speaker 1: Jenshaw and I did not think the show would survived
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  Speaker 1: without Monica Garcia.
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  Speaker 2: And I think in that case, my hope for Lisa Barlow.
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  Speaker 1: If this is true, my sister, you and your jingles,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: your commercials, your seven lawyers, and your liquor brand to
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: Quila to be exact, shout out to Beta.
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  Speaker 2: Don't overplay your hand, my sister. Yeah, don't don't do
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  Speaker 2: not do it.
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  Speaker 1: And the show did survive without Mary coming back one season.
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  Speaker 1: So I do feel like Salt Lake City is one
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  Speaker 1: of those shows.
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  Speaker 2: None of those girls to ever think they're bigger than
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  Speaker 2: the show.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I agree with you. I think the show
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  Speaker 3: could survive. I don't think it would be as good.
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  Speaker 3: I think that last season, in particular, after Monica, a
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: lot of the conflict involved Lisa and whether that was
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: like intentional or not, like that was how it played out.
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  Speaker 3: I mean like she had some sort of moment with
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: most of them women on the cast, and like, so
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  Speaker 3: I don't I do think it could survive.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that you're right that Salt Lake City
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: is this franchise.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: It's like it's a resilient franchise in so many ways,
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: because it's like they've had these huge moments involve these
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: characters that then just get taken out of the recipe
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: and it's like then they're just left to figure out
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: how they what it looks like and how they exist
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: without that person. So I believe they all have they've
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: proven they all have that in them to move the
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: show forward despite a big personality and a big presence
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: being taken out of the equation. They've proven that, and
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: I believe that's true. We're pretty much for anybody on
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: that show. But I don't. I just don't think it
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: would be as good. So but I agree with you.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Now listen, listen.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Lisa Barlow is essential to the show for sure. I
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: just think that one show, like everybody needs each other and.
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: It's a dangerous game to thank you.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh it is, it is, so I hope it's
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: not true, but this is, this is this is the
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: funny part.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: So know, Lisa Barlow is a love her and this
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: is some ship she would do, so I believe it.
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: Listen. I love the power Play, please, yeah and listen
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: as long as it as long as it, you know,
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: ends up on her side. I have on her side. Yeah,
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: so they don't live her high and dry.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: I love the power Play because it does it also
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: not just like sort of the people at the network,
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: but also fans. It's like the past couple of days,
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: it's been like people either being like, oh yeah, the
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: show doesn't need her, or people being like, oh my god,
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: like what are we gonna do without Lisa? And like
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: that shows you how much people care in either direction.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah she's still trending. It's been three days. Yeah she's
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: still trending. So Lisa, good play, honey. That's my low
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: key is iconic.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: Child.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: We are just getting started. This is reality with the
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: King and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: But what is not iconic? M gives in the allegedly
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: not paying her glam. Let me tell you something, GiB said,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: I do spend my days watching housewives. I do spend
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: my days watching all the reality shows. My favorite show
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: that comes on Thursdays that I say to watch Saturday
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: mornings as some of my Peloton bike burning calories. I
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: love Million Dollars listing Los Angeles.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: Okay, three too, soft Spot love I.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: I It's my comfort show. I just I love I
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: love real Estate. I love watching it. Tracy Tudor to
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: me is extremely beautiful. I think she's so beautiful. Her
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: fashion is always teams across the board. Her daughters are
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: like equally beautiful as their mom.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Tracy is. She had a hot trainer that she broke up.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Like Tracy is a bad j oh, she checks the boxes.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: She's a fucking FedEx like she is like next time,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: like she's next day shipping. I fucking love Tracy Tudor
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: and I can't watch her do anything, honey. I watched
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: her cry by her young ass trainer boyfriend, like I
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: love her.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: I digress.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: So Tracy was recently on the Jeff Lewis Show, and
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Jeff Lewis, this is the funny part. So Justine Sevester
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: is one of my good friends, and Justin is obviously best.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: He's with Coyle Richards and he's friends with all of
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: the Beverly Hills housewives, specifically Erica jay At Dereed. So
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: my friend Justin had to sit there while Jeff Lewis
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: threw all the shade at Deried.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: He doesn't like de Rey. He found out she blocks him.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Is the whole thing.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Tracy Tudor alleged that Derey does not pay her glam
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: because Tracy and Drey share the same glam, and Tracy
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: said that she knows for a fact that Derey does
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: not pay her glam and that she needs to fucking
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: pay them just aee. Bessa sat there and said, Chase
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: subject please, I love the water, I love hot taste,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: and Jeff Lewis is eating this shit up right, of
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: course he is.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: I hate to say this because I love to Rea.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: It sounds believable, allegedly allegedly gives it take it away listen.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: So I agree, it sounds unbelievable. And Derey responded on
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: Waltrappans Live last night, where she was like, she said
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: something along the lines of like, well, this hairstylist who
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: is this is the first time I'm working with him
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: this season in eight years. He used my credit card
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: to book a hotel room that he tried to double
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: charge me for that, and then once it was sent
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: to my office, That's.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: What she said.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: My office, they were like, oh, we already paid this.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: So that was on Walter Happens Live last night, Carlos Today,
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: Tracy Tudor Walter Happens Live tweeting out the clip and
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: she says, yeah, she's a liar. There's a there's a
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: credit card authorization form that she signed. Her quote unquote
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: office is an accountant that doesn't pay her bills. She
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: owed him money for months, then all of a sudden today,
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: after I spoke the truth, Chris was magically paid. Imagine that.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: And then another tweet she said, I listened to her
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: berate him and intimidate him.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: I listened to her.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I believe it, Like Tracy is tripling down
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: on this She's tripling, She's tripling. And listen, like, and
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: I love me saying to read that she is the
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: moment for me on this show. Like I love everything
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: about her. But she's also kind of like a walking paradox, right,
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: Like we see her in all these designer things all
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: the time. It was in a beautiful house, has a
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: beautiful family, always in glam, always late because she's in glam.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: But there have been talks about her finances since she
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: was on the show, right, Like that is not that
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: is a question that has been open ended forever with her,
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: And like, so this is I hope it's not true,
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: but I kind of believe it is based on Tracy's
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: acount of things. Tracy is rich, yes, and for road making.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: You said, what of her own making? Like she's a
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: very successful real estate agent.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah no, Listen, got a divorce on the show.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Her ex was so fucking fine, But that's a whole
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: nother story.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: She has good tastes that she has good taste physically
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: and men, I would say, I don't know that.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Everything else Bye, right, Tracy, I'm sayingle hook me up, sister, Okay, Okay,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: So Tracy is rich. Tracy obviously doesn't need a moment,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: you know, like there's some thirsty girls who need the
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: moment because they need to be able to be a
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: part of the conversation for financial gain. And that's why
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: I have to outline that Tracy has a lot of money,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: and I just don't buy Tracy needs the attention.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Listen, Dearit has been accused.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Of renting her fashions, She has been accused of not
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: paying things.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: If this all is true.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: What this means to me is that Tracy needs to
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: be on the next season of The Real House Spots
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: of Billy Hills.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: Took the words out of my mouth. Ahead, words out
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: of my mouth.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: I've been I've been talking about her should having she
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: should be counts on that show. I've been talking about
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: that for two years. Because one million dollar listing I
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: think is maybe like on pause on its way out
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: at least like because I think the All Means just
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: announced their exit, so it's kind of on. It had
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: very few cost numbers again, great show. So she's I
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: think she's like she has an opening in her life. Secondly,
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: she is very good friends with Crystal Coin mean golf,
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: and she has been for a very long time. And
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: you know, I think an argument can be made by
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: some I mean it's been made all season that people
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: want Crystal back at some point in the future. Imagine
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: injecting Crystal and Tracy together. That gives Crystal more of
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: like an inherent backup, which I think she kind of
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: didn't have before, you know what I mean, and a.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: Deri versus Tracy situation.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: Given this this heat of this heat of exchange is
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: very naturally occurring. I mean, game fucking on, you know
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: what I mean that that is a totally new dynamic
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: for us to unlock, because you know, this season I've
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: been enjoying, but it hasn't been the most exciting and
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: new in terms of different dynamics. And so it's like,
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: inject somebody like Tracy Tutor who doesn't give a fuck
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: about what they all say about her. She doesn't need
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: the money, and some of the best sauce lives don't
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: need don't need the money.
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: Come on, give it to me, Give it to me.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Asthma Donna said it best, I agree with you. Give
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: it to me. Give it to me now, injected in
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: my veins, injected in my free workout drinks, and and
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: and my fucking like postwork protein shake. I agree with you. Look,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Tracy has the lifestyle. And what we've learned on this
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: show is you don't have to live in Beillley Hills
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: because the only person who apparently lives in Billy Hills
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: from this current cast is Erica and Sidon. Right, I think, yeah, okay,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Derey can read the phone book when it comes to
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: checking these girls.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Tracy is no Kimo grammar.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Tracy will give it back to you, and Tracy has
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: the wallet to show for it. And on top of that,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Tracy is very likable. She's very likable. Yes, And I
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: think to your point to Gibson, the thing with Tracy
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: that was very smart for Bravo to cast the first
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: female to be a part of the million Dollar listing
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: is the fact that Tracy has big dick energy. Yes, right,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Like she can hang with the fellas and oh my god, right.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: She's proven so many times on that show that she
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: can take it to the men on that show. And
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: like they're no slouches either, and so like she and
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: she called them on their shit all the time, like
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: she didn't. She was confrontational and not the way that
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: was unearned, like she really I think, I actually think
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: that like the one thing that would give her pause
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: about Real Housewives is the fact that it would get
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: like too much about like petty drama, you know what
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, Like a that show wasn't really petty. It
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: was more like about bigger things, right, And that's I
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: think what would give her pause about it, to be honest.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: But now this hairstylist thing, I guess it's not petty
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: because she owes somebody money, but like she's down to
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: get in the weeds, which I love, Yes.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: I do too, so gives them are advocating for Tracy
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: to be a housepopic season now we also love Mudonald listing.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: This is no shade the Aptmans.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry if people disagree the Autmens is the face
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: of a million dollar listing. It is what the fuck
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: it is. Josh and Tracy were on Jeff Lewis show,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: I think late last year, and we're pitching the idea
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: and the concept that they don't need Aptman.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: They can do it on their own. I love Josh Flag,
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: I love Tracy.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: I think it's a hard pass for me unless Frederick
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: comes back and replaces Autman. I Autman, Listen, this is
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: no shade Autment brought. When I say this, I'm not
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: shading anybody. But Autment brought he he brought credibility to that.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: We're talking about a man who listed Kanye West and
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian's home, you know, like.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's legit. I think he was sort of a
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: grounding force on that show. He was sort of like
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: the Ryan starhand of the West Coast. I would say,
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: like he was he you know, built himself up with
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: his brother and it was like.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: You know, and he was good.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: He was a good reality star too, Like he was
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: a good real estate agent and a good reality star.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: But I think without him there, that show almost felt
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: like a leftover relic from the early days of Bravo.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: And I don't mean that in a shady way, Like
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: I'm glad that it stuck around for as long as
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: it did. And I think they did a really good
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: job of Like I think it was World of Wonder.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: They did a really good job of rettalizing the show
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: like like probably four seasons ago, but ultimately I think
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: it's sort of like, especially now, with like so many
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: real estate shows out there, it just doesn't stand out
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: as much.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: And I love it, but I think it may be
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: as run ups.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Of course, I think so too.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: And again, if you're not going to replace Atman with Frederick,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: who's a fascinating character and also like extremely credible because
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: the thing that Autman brought to the show, and this
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: is no shade to Tracy and Black, who I love
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: equally aumand had like a list celebrities and like hundreds
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: and hundred million and weather a man, I'm.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Obsessed with her. Love her, Yeah, I love.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: Her And allegedly, allegedly allegedly.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: They left because they wanted more money.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: And listen, it's like, once you get to that sort
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: of caliber of real estate agent, I can totally see
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: that being It's like, I mean, it's such a demanding thing,
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: and like if you're making so much more money selling houses,
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: like it has to be worth it for you to
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: do to film a reality show for that long, you know,
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: And so like, yeah, I could totally see them having
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: gotten too expensive because like they're extremely legit, and I
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: think it's a really good marketing tool. Show like that
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: if you're in real estate. But yeah, I'm with you, Yeah,
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: I'm with you.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Okay, before we get to the latest episode of Billy Hills,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: I have a confession to make in my shirt voice.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Okay, I have a confession.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: I have never seen The Valley, never seen an episode.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: I've never I know, I know, I know. I'm getting red.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: I can, I can, I can? I can? I can?
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: I can.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: I can see the fingers on my Spotify comments.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Reading me and giving giving me a one star review.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: I get it. I apologize in advance. Leave me alone,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: rain drops. I saw the trailer for season two, so
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: my assistant, Liz the she literally said to me, even
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: if you never watched the show, watch the trailer. Gibson
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: John's let me tell you something, honey, Bunny.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: I was in rim sleep. I was. I was.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: I was in rim sleep, meaning the fact that I
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: have slept on this show. No one told me that
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: The Valley is like old school fan the Pump Rules,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: where it wasn't about the wealth, it wasn't about the
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: aspiration it gives us.
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: Oh no, girl, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: it's about it.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: It's about It's about millennials who are in that next
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: stage of life, after rules, after Southern charm, after whatever,
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: and because of what our generation has gone through, like
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: they don't have all the money to like or they
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: don't have it all figured out like maybe people did
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: in a different generation. And I think that's what's so
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: compelling about it. It's like it's something we It kind
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: of feels like something we haven't seen on TV before.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: And like all their manage, all of their marriages are
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: sort of like teetering on the edge, you know what
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: I mean.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: They can go either way, and it's really good drama.
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: It is really good. And some of them last season
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: were like a little some of them were a little sleepy.
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: But this season it looks like they're all clocked in.
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: And that trailer was a doozy. It really was.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Oh I'm sold, so raindrops. I'm going to recap the
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Valley season too. I'm here for it.
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: Elliott car right, Jack, I mean, I get him getting
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: served on camera, him getting served. They opened the door
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: and they're like you hear your papers, Like, come on,
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: that's that's soap opera.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: That is so good, that's what it is. It reminded
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: me of why I fell in love.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: I fell in love with reality because it wasn't about
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: like how beautiful someone looks their wardrobe. It felt so
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: real and organic and just like again the reason why
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: we fell in love with old band the Pumbrils, like
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: seasons one to like five, you know, like it just
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: felt gritty and raw and real, like kind of like
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Jergy short ish where it just didn't feel polished, and
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: I felt like that's what's missing from television.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: So I'm going to recap it because I don't know
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: how much I can stand this season of Beverly Hills.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, the last two episodes were a snooze balloons.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: We need a cast shake up, but I mean, let's
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: just start there. We need a cast shake up. I can't.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you what threw me off. I'm just
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: being honest.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: I don't like watching two friends, Son and Garcel in
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: this case, in front of each other having a conversation
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: and then you cut to an interview slash confessional and
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: the confessional bites. The confessional conversations, moments sound bites are
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: more interesting than the actual scene. So when Garcella was
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: calling out Sutton in her interview chair. Sutton dusneed coll approval,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: Son is scared of Kyle. I don't want to see
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: that while you're in the chair. I want to see
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: you say's your best friend and say are you afraid?
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: I don't like it, and I think this season the
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: reason why we all love to read is because it
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: was like, finally somebody's saying shit to these girls' faces.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: And to open up the episode with that, I was like,
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: what the fuck happened to these girls? It's I don't
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: like this idea that you can't say things to your
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: alleged friend in front of your face, but you choose
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: to say it in an interview.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: I don't like that.
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I I clocked that too.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: And it's weird because it doesn't it feels like it's
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: something that Garcea would say to Sutton's face. So I
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: don't really know why she couldn't do that in the moment,
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: and to me, like I have, I haven't up until
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: I would say a couple episodes ago, I actually was
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: really enjoying the season. But what I'm it just feels
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: like now we're on this hamster wheels sort of the
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: same dynamics playing out, like they're missing another factor. They're
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: missing another sort of chaos agent in there. That like
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: is because right now it's sort of like we're okay,
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: We're back to Kyle and Sutton trying to be friends again.
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: We're back to Dreet and Kyle being friends again.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: Now it's we're back to Callington now for her messy behavior,
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: Like there's no we've seen this all before, and that's
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: it just feels like we're hitting replay on this. And
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: I was talking to my brother a little about this,
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: and it feels like this trip to to Saint Lucia,
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: where they are, where they are, they just got there.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: It has been teased, like none of it's been teased,
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: which means like there's probably not that much going on
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: on the trip, you know what I mean. Like and
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: they're gonna odd in the season on this trip, like
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: we saw it in the trailer, like them dancing around
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: and stuff, but we haven't seen any like big other
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: than I think one thing on the boat with sut
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: in America. We haven't seen like a big moment teased.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: We wee can week out from this trip, and that's
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: so different from what we saw what we've seen in
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: other franchises recently, and so it just gives me, like,
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: all right, the rest of the season.
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: I don't think it's gonna give us much that's interesting now.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, you raise a good point, because typically when
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: you have explosive moments happened the cast trip, you and
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: the prior episode with a swort of like teaser of
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: what to expect from that trip, because nine times out
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: of ten and international cast trip.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Is where you're gonna get your biggest arguments.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: And because we didn't not get any of those things,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: I think you're right, Gifts and in the sense of
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: nothing has happened, I think it goes to show you
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: that the Kyle versus Deriy was obviously the one thing
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: they thought what would be interesting, and it was and
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: it was and it was the problem. The mistake they
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: made was this der and Sutton. I mean, maybe I'm
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: alone of this. I could watch that ship for another
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: five weeks.
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: It's good. It's good.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: It's good because Sutton does not like Dori and it's
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: and yes, so the fact that these women are like
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: no make up, no, I would have been like driving
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: ship more like it's the only thing that's that's keeping
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: it interesting and what has to happen is that show
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: needs to have somebody like another.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Because I love Oz. I think she's so like fantastic.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: I think she's a great addition.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: I need more of her.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: I need more women like her who are going to
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: call things out at face value. The scene with her
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: and Kyle that was so beautiful. Yeah, I love that scene.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Let's get into coverde tarps. Okay, everybody knows, including you, Gibson.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: She's my number one favorite housewife of all time that
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: I haven't worked with. Okay, Nimi, Okay, Teresa okay, Kenya okay, Porsia,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: thank you. Disclaimer okay, thank you. I haven't worked with guys. Okay,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: it's Kyle. I'm gonna be very honest here, like I'm
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: always am. Kyle should have taken this season off because
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: it's evident she's not ready to tell us what happened
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: in her marriage for it to dissolve.
• 40:01
  Speaker 6: I. I, for the life of me, I seriously am confused
• 40:13
  Speaker 6: by a marriage that I Carlos King got a chance
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: to witness fourteen years ago, and fourteen years ago, you
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: guys were married for maybe like ten years at something
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: like a long time right.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: I have never seen an argument between these two in
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: fourteen seasons.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: So for Carlos King, who.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: Can spot anything, I am so fucking confused as to
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: what happened. And when I watch Kyle struggle to delicately
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: and protectively explain it, it does a disservice to the
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: audience who built the Kyle Richard's brand on Bravo. I'm
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: just keeping I am investing in Kyle. I watch Halloween
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: not because of Jamie Curtis, because of Kyle Richard's I'm
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: being fucking honest with you, guys. I watched the Peacock
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: Holiday movies because of Kyle, not because of anyone else.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: I would watch Kyle seriously.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: Read the ingredients off of a fucking nutrient gena facial mask.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: I love this woman. I have invested Kyle.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: I save money a month to buy things you still
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: on Amazon.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: You got me sis. However, I am frustrated.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: I'm annoyed because I feel let down because I'm not
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: getting anything. When she sat on camera and this is
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: the part that I literally was like, I don't know
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: how long I can like take up for this situation
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: because I love Kyo I love Mauricio. I think they're
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: beautiful people inside and out.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: But I'm not dumb. When she said, yeah, I just
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: don't know what happened. I mean, for a marriage to.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Take this turn, I just don't know what I don't
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: You don't know what happened, So you mean to tell
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: me your husband allegedly woke up one day and said,
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: I just want to live in a separate house.
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: But also, it wasn't This is what I'm confused about,
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: is it doesn't she the one that initiated the separation,
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: because like.
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: I think it's a little unclear, but like, wasn't she
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: the one?
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: And I think and I agree with everything you just said,
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: And I also tend to sympathize with Kyle and like
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: be in her corner for a lot of things. I
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: think ultimately, the biggest explanation that we can get and
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: glean from how she's talking this season is she's protecting Morgan,
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: because clearly, after last season and everything that went down,
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: Morgan probably asked her not to her on the show anymore.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: And Morgan, whatever the nature of their relationship is, is
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: very near and dear to Kyle's heart these days, and
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: she clearly asked Kyle not to talk about her at all,
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: not to get into their dynamic again, whatever it is,
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: and like, but that is a huge blocker in everything,
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: whether it's what went wrong in her marriage with Mauricio,
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: like because that was that was Morgan showed herself around
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: the time of the separation, So like that had to
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: have been a factor, whether again whether it was like
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: a romantic thing or just sort of like somebody who
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: got like intimately like emotional, I don't know who whatever,
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: But like then it also makes it becomes a blocker
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: for everybody else in the cast if she's like, don't
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: bring this person up, and it's like, well, Morgan was
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: on the show last season. We saw you guys like
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: at the tattoo parlor together, you know, and it's like
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: it just it feels like Kyle wants to have her
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: cake and eat it too in this situation, Like she
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: she left the cat out of the bag and you
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: can't put it back in, you know what I mean,
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: And like it's out there, it is, And but you said,
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: we're not stupid. We're not stupid when it comes to
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: this either, Like we you know, the whole thing with
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: Mauricio and the woman in the Mikino's airport. I agree
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: that that woman probably sold those photos. You probably planned
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: the photos.
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: In one and whatever. But like, it's hard to it's
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: hard to completely sympathize with Kyle in that situation because
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: how do we think that Mauricio felt seeing all the
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: photos of her and Morgan. Again, they weren't making.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: Out, but they were spotted all over the world together,
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: following each other around the world.
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: That had to have made it feel some type of way.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: But we're not hearing about it because we're not talking
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: about Morgan on the show anymore.
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just.
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: No, it's happening.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: It's it's not great, And I'm gonna tell you the
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: reason why it's not great. I think we were all
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: expecting at last seasons of Reunion, the three parts that
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: could have been won.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: Where every part was teased going to up. We're like, Okay,
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: you don't like or whatever. Yeah, yeah, Like Kyle's gonna
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: either come out.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: And say she's my girlfriend or just say I was
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: extremitting or saying you guys are an idiots, she's my
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: best friend. Fine, whatever, But we still got nothing. And
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: what we did get was the fact that I'm gonna
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: tell you what Kyle.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: Messed up that music video.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: Yes, m we're her Morgan, we're assimilating kissing and being intimate.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know who was on Kyle's team at that
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: time as an openly gay male, and I'm being honest here,
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: I would have said to Kyle, look, this may come
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: across as queer baiting, and if that's not your intention intention,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: which I don't think it is, don't do this. Don't
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: just don't, don't because it's not going to end well
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: for you. If you're gonna do this and then say
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: this is your girlfriend, then do it. We love a
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: little teas. We love that Tama tea she's quitting. We
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: love that Barlow wants a million dollars.
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: We love episode exactly.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: Lidley caught this episode the teas TZ maybe okay, like
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: we like a tease, but it's a fine line to
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: where I listen. One of my really really good friends
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: who's in the business, not of reality in the industry,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: she said to me at the oply gay man, are
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: you offended that this comes across as curbaiting? And I said,
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: I don't see it that way. I think I see
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: a woman who's trying to figure things out if I'm
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: being honest, and I think that's understandable. When the music
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: video came out, I was like, I mean shit, I
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: just I don't know what to do here.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: And then I thought this season we would get the moment.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: We'll get the moment and.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: To hear Garsell and suck it giving me Blanche Devereaux
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: and b Arthur you know what I mean it It
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: was given like you know, like to Betty's gossiping about that,
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: well can we ask?
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: Like why can we ask about that? And I'm like,
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: all of.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: You guys are skilled of kyo because I would say
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: similarly to what Kelly did on the season premiere Atlanta Housewife,
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: A New Housewife Portia's biggest question mark that the girls had.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: Was did you steal this woman's husband?
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: A New Housewife said it in her first episode Thirsty
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: or Not, And I happened to be here for it.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: Somebody has to stand up for like, fuck you, we
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: have to have this conversation. So watching that situation and
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: then gives and watching her Maurissio, I was just like
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: I said to myself, I with Kyle would have this
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: taken the season off, I.
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: Mean, and she took a week off during in the
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: middle of filming.
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: It's like and I mean and like again like I understand,
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: like she's very fragile, and I like, doesn't is figuring
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: shit out right now. But it's like she put herself
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: back on a reality show where she has you know,
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: there's a there's a barometer that we expect as viewers
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: from her of like you have to share this with us.
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: And again, like going back to music video. Part of
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: the issue also that didn't land was like it'd be
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: one thing again if they were either together very clearly
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: or if they were very clearly not together, And so
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: it was sort of like a joke almost for them
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: to do this, but like their relationship was not defined
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: at all publicly, and so we were like we were
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: left thinking, Okay, is this them confirming they're together or
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: is this like them being in on the joke but
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: like not being very clear about that, Like it just
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: wasn't very clear. And and then once they all once
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: everyone in her cast was like that music video, She's like, oh,
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: we were just we were acting.
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: Or it was whatever.
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: I agree that and I think that to me like
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: a larger thing not just on this show. Is like,
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: I do think that like taking us season off, it
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: should happen more often for a lot of women on
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: these shows. And it's like it did Camera Wonders that
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: you know, I think it would have done Drindo Wonders
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: if they ever brought back that cast, you know what
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: I mean. But like it's sometimes you can't see the
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: force from the trees when you're in this Housewives game
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: for too long and you need a reality check, You
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: need to touch grass, you need to a breather, however
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: you want to say it. And I do think that
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: it's actually there's no shame in that, but I think
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: right now there it hasn't. There is kind of a
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: shame around it because it because it gives being fired,
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, an on pause and Bravo
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: is such a meaningless term now. So I do wish
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: that that long standing Housewives would take a season break
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: more often, because like.
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: I like, I like them to sort of rewrite that precedent.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, the one is when you he took
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: off season I'm seven, I mean eighty a far season eight.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: They did one that's been married off, so like City
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: took off his season I actually agree with you. I
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: think more housewives should just say like I need a break.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: I just it's a lot for me.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: And I think understandably, if I'm called Richards and I
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: grew up in this industry, and my sisters Kathy Hilton,
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: my niece's parents and Nikki, and my husband business is successful,
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: and I'm figuring out my life, I'm allegedly into this
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: particular woman, I can understand why that's a lot for you.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: One thing I'll give Portia Williams.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: When she.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: Met Simon and knew all of the drama that was
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: surrounding that relationship, she took she jumped ship.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: She jumped ship. She was like, I have to figure
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: this out.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: And I'm gonna say this, and this may be controversial,
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: but this is because I do love Kyle. So, Kyle,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: if you or your team are listening, I'm gonna say this,
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: and it's because I do love you.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: If we're not going to have a definitive.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: Statement or declaration of your relationship or lack their of
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: with Morgan, like definitive or a definitive reason as the
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: way happened between you and Mauricio, I do think it's
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: in Kyle's.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: Best interest to take next season off.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: Just take it off and and on some really this
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: is this is me on some real shit experience life
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: with your possible lady friend or dating and separating and
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: divorcing Mauricio and then come.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: Back and be and then explain to us what happened.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: But I I'm telling you, honey body pudding pie, I
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: can't take another season of this bait and switch.
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: And it's also just it's getting a little repetitive, you
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: know what I mean. I think that's it's and again
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: I understand that's what she's going through in her life,
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: so it's not necessarily like the quote unquote storyline and
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: she's actually going through this, But it's like every scene
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: is just like, oh I wasn't I don't know what
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: to do as an empty nester. Oh like I don't
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: know where my marrige, Like I don't know why we
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: got separated or whatever.
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: Like it's again hamster wheel, you know.
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: It just feels like we're having the same conversation in
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: a different font every episode.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So I want to shift gears a bit because
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: the only other interesting it was only two for me,
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: It was only two moments for me.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: Honey, p K.
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: Oh, I love those one on one scenes.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: P K does not like you. P K said you
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: bring out the worst in him. This man does not
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: want to be with you. And I'm gonna say it,
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: I think p K allegedly has a girlfriend. I think
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: I think Pik Mauricio are like, we're out well no
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: pun attended.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: I think the FST lie we're we are like doing
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: our own thing right. PK does not want you at all.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: If that scene and not submit his disdaying for Derey,
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know what else will be he gives it.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: I just don't think this man even likes her.
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: I think I agree with you and like the frustrating
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: part as a viewer. Who again, I think we've been
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: so conditioned the season to be in her corner because
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: of how much she's sort of like stood up for
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: herself in the group settings. Is that she sort of
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: reverts back into a different form when she's in these
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: scenes with PK, and like, That's why I love that
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: one dinner scene at Kathy's house when Erica was like, no,
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: like you need to get a lawyer, like he is
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: trying to divorce you before the ten year mark for
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: X y z reasons, like, like she they're trying to
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: give her the reality check that she just so desperately needs,
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: because for some reason, she's bucking up so much in
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: the group setting with Sutton in particular, and with Kyle
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: earlier in the season, but she's not doing so with PK.
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: And it's it's.
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: Almost like sad to watch. You want to be like
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: like you have it in you, like, don't let him
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: pull this fast one on you, Like like she can't
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: see the writing on the wall with him. I don't
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: know if she's blinded by her feelings for him or whatever,
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: but I hope that she's gotten to a point now
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: where she's like.
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: More aware of like how he actually feels about her.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was it's disrespectful, and I mean I do
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: feel bad for her because I listen, I do believe
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: that she wanted to make this marriage work.
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: I just mean, you know what I mean.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: I think it's another marriage where we were never ever
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: told anything was happening.
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: And that's the reason why.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: Sorry, guys, you have to get Tama judge her props
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: because when she was going through her divorce, we saw
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: season of like things going awry. Shout out to Vickon
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: Gobbleson with Donna her Love Tank, we saw seasons of that.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: We saw with Ninnie and Greg Leak's May He Rest
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: in Peace before they divorced.
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: We didn't get any of.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: That with Dury and PK either, And that's the reason
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: why Beverly Hills needs a soft shakeup.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: I don't think a big one. I think a soft one.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: I think I think you got to bring women in
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: like bows to where it's somebody who is willing to
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: give everything to the show. I want to see Erica date.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: I want to see Erica with a hot black man, Honey.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: She loves a black man too, Honey. I want to
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: see Erica Jane with a dark skinned black man.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: That is just like, excuse my language. I'm not going
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: to say the F word, but like giving it to her, Oh, honey,
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: like this like.
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: Chocolate black man because Erica loves black men too, Honey,
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: joined the club, Erica Jay welcome.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: But like, I want to see that. But I also, no.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: More wallpaper, No more wallpaper, no more furniture, no more listen.
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: I'm sure it was part of the contact to getting
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: the furniture to show it X amount of times, but
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't need.
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: I don't need the before and after shots in every
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: single episode. I just don't. I love meeting Erica Jane
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: right now. But I'm like, I get it.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: We readd the house, so I need this, plains to
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: my brain drops. So rain drops.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: When it's called a trade out. So I'm gonna explain
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: to my brain drops, explain, Okay, okay, it's when. Okay,
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: this typically happens on like wedding specials. So like if
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: you ever watch a reality show and you see the
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: labels of the brand of the company labels, it's contractual obligation.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: It's called a trade out, meaning, in exchange for maybe
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: a free dress, a free writing dress, a free whatever,
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: you have to mention my brand X amount of times.
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: Right, So that's called a trade out, your trade.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: Out the the brand in exchange for airtime, right, And
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: you're trading out the fact that I'm giving you this
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: for free or very very very very very very steep discount.
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: Allegedly.
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: It's so obvious that allegedly this redecoration of Erica's house
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: is a trade out, and it also smells to me
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: like a potential Bravol spin off with this guy like it.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: It's really interesting on the Flipping Out reboot. Oh maybe,
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: I mean Gyp said John, they are doing that.
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: With Jeff Lewis they are doing that?
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was Jeff on it or he's the
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: guy has Amazon.
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: I agree, Yeah, I think they know.
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: I think that they have said this publicly that like
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: Jeff is getting another show on Bravo.
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so maybe that's maybe that's part of it.
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: The other one that was play trade on Carlos was
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: the Caviar has to be a thing where they now
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: where they talked about that fucking restaurant every thirty seconds
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: on that episode.
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: I was like, damn.
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: They were all the contract like the minimum of thirty mentions.
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: I was like, yes, it was like a commercial for
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: the restaurant. They were like, we have you our costua,
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: like you know Paris.
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: It's like I was like, damn.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's what happens.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: And it also happens on the International Trips just so
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: you know. So anyways, gives it an I on the
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: same page when.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: It comes to this season start off strong.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: It's definitely getting a little wat walkie, but I'm looking
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: forward to the reunion that is airing.
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: I believe April first. So yeah, you guys have them.
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: There you have it.
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: There you have it, you have it, gives it. This
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: has been a joy. You know.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: I love when you come on and like you bring
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: so much insight. But let the world know when they
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: can follow your amazing podcasts, your social media.
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: Everything you have going on.
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: My podcast is called Gabbing with gibb. Carlos was on it.
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: I think in December when you were out in LA.
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: We have to get you on again sometime soon, at
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: least two episodes a week, have some of the ladies
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: on talk about the show similar to today, and you
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: can follow me at Gibsonoma on All the Things. Always
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: a pleasure, Carlos always all the things.
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Gibson with Chat soon, bye bye bye.
• 59:21
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