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College Basketball Upsets, Buyer Beware, Parlay of the Day & More! · Best Betting Show Ever

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  Speaker 1: This is the best betting show ever. We're here to
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  Speaker 1: make you money. I'm Lawrence Presman. We got Joveniary, we
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  Speaker 1: got Art this Caesar, and we got a lot of
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  Speaker 1: actionable betting information coming your way. And I swear to
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  Speaker 1: God you're gonna laugh as well. Art, Caesar, Jovenary, Welcome
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  Speaker 1: to the show. We do this every day. I love
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  Speaker 1: doing this. I'm excited. There are seven hundred NBA games
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  Speaker 1: going today, a slate of college hoops. We got the Olympics.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna talk some predictive markets, our parlay of the day,
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  Speaker 1: our best bets in our rundown.
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  Speaker 2: Art.
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  Speaker 1: Let's start with you right now. Were there any upsets
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  Speaker 1: in college basketball well or the NBA last night that
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  Speaker 1: cost the Westgates some cash or made them or may?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say, I would say UNC losing always
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  Speaker 2: is gonna make the book cash. Got some straight bets
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  Speaker 2: in parlays. You know, Purdue obviously got Lewis as high
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  Speaker 2: as Purdue getting two too and a half game close pick,
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  Speaker 2: so we actually saw pretty good Purdue money. So Nebraska
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  Speaker 2: making the comeback, we were thinking, Okay, maybe we're gonna steal
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  Speaker 2: this game. So Purdue ended up winning by three, so
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  Speaker 2: not the best result in the house. But I would
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  Speaker 2: say anytime you can get UNC to lose and you
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  Speaker 2: know they were picked minus one whatever it was. You know,
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  Speaker 2: anytime UNC loses out right always good for the sports book.
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  Speaker 3: Well, there is a lot of parody.
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  Speaker 4: It feels like, I mean, Illinois losing last night the
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  Speaker 4: Wisconsin and overtime was also crazy into Illinois. The more
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  Speaker 4: and more we get like that, the more and more
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  Speaker 4: of these upsets with these teams that are supposed to
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  Speaker 4: be untouchable. I mean, you got Florida and Georgia going
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  Speaker 4: tonight for instance, Boy, that would be another huge upset here.
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  Speaker 4: Do you have guys just come in and target this
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  Speaker 4: time of year, like just let's let's have it the
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  Speaker 4: dogs in college basketball, because on a weekly basis leading
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  Speaker 4: into March, that appears to be where the money can
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  Speaker 4: be here because we're getting more and more of them
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  Speaker 4: as we get closed in a March madness.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, especially when you're deep in a conference play,
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  Speaker 2: maybe you can zero in on some of the better
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  Speaker 2: conferences that are deeper conferences. You're right, you know, you
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  Speaker 2: look at a Georgia night. We'll talk about it in
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  Speaker 2: the sharp money. There's actually been a lot of Florida
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  Speaker 2: sharp money early, so that's surprising to me. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: when you have a team catching a whole bunch of
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  Speaker 2: points in the sec the Big ten, and they're at home,
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  Speaker 2: there probably is some value on teams like that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah you Caesar.
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  Speaker 1: Joining us from the Westgate art one of our listeners
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  Speaker 1: A week A week A blah blah blah, he writes, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I can sleep tonight knowing the Westgate did well on Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: Who freaking cares? I thought this was a betting show.
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  Speaker 3: Week.
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  Speaker 1: That was a weak, bloody comment. Bro, this is a
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  Speaker 1: betting show, which is exactly why we want to know
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  Speaker 1: if the bets won or lost, if the place taking
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  Speaker 1: the bets made money or didn't make money. It seems
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  Speaker 1: completely appropriate on this show to discuss that exact topic.
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  Speaker 1: So what that said? Out of the books do last night?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we did well. It's funny, Presus. I
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  Speaker 2: saw that comment and I think loled it because you know,
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  Speaker 2: you get to a point where I think people they
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  Speaker 2: look at me like I'm the bad guy, like I'm
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  Speaker 2: here just to give the wrong information. And I'll say this,
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  Speaker 2: if you think me giving you information on one of
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  Speaker 2: let's say, seventy college basketball games is gonna swing the
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  Speaker 2: sportsbook's day. Trust me, I don't have that kind of power.
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  Speaker 2: I wish I did. I don't have that kind of influence.
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  Speaker 2: It's just I'm giving you the information that's in front
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  Speaker 2: of me. That's all I can do. I just think
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  Speaker 2: it's funny when people get to that point with oh,
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  Speaker 2: well he's just trying to trick us, okay, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: The problem is is that guys have.
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  Speaker 4: They're just so they don't have actually to wear with
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  Speaker 4: all or the patience to actually try and become a better,
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  Speaker 4: better They're just interested in the moment. Just tell me
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  Speaker 4: what I got to play, tell me what's going. They
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  Speaker 4: have no interest in trying to understand, well, why how
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  Speaker 4: was this bet? Where did the market go? Why did
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  Speaker 4: the markt move that way? Was it profitable?
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  Speaker 3: Was it not?
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  Speaker 4: Is there something we can They're not interested. They just like,
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  Speaker 4: let me just kind of just tell me what to play,
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  Speaker 4: and if you're right or if you're wrong, and that's
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  Speaker 4: all it matters. There is actually no long term game
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  Speaker 4: plan with dudes like that, res none. They're just here
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  Speaker 4: for right now.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, week, I still appreciate you watching the show, and
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate you commenting, so thank you for that. It
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  Speaker 1: is okay to it is okay to be wrong. I
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  Speaker 1: it happened to me in seventies six. I think it was. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was against the Russians. It's against the Russians in
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  Speaker 1: seventy six. I was wrong one time, and yeah, so
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  Speaker 1: I've been there a week. I understand art what's bet
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  Speaker 1: more right now? NBA or college basketball?
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  Speaker 2: I would say college basketball. And you know, we're gonna
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  Speaker 2: get into this little stretch here where the NBA ends
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  Speaker 2: on Thursday, as we go into a week of NBA
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  Speaker 2: All Star Games. We're still out in the NHL, so
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  Speaker 2: college basketball is gonna be front and center here for
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  Speaker 2: a full week with really nothing to compete. So I mean,
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna be heavy on the college basketball here coming up.
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  Speaker 2: But I say, even with them going against each other,
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  Speaker 2: it seems to me like we take a little bit
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  Speaker 2: more handle nowadays on college and I think that has
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  Speaker 2: to do with just what's going on in the NBA.
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  Speaker 2: You don't know who's gonna play day in and day out.
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  Speaker 2: There's so much volatility with that. Unless you're gonna really
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  Speaker 2: just say, hey, I'm to be the one who's gonna
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  Speaker 2: sniff out when the injuries are gonna happen, when people
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  Speaker 2: are gonna say all that type stuff and play the
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  Speaker 2: schedule game. It's really that's kind of the way people
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  Speaker 2: want to bet the NBA.
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  Speaker 4: Now, yeah, uh, the NBA careful, careful, I just if
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  Speaker 4: you're looking at you know, I think it's twofold here.
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  Speaker 4: And we mentioned this the other day. You gotta be
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  Speaker 4: careful with these lottery teams moving forward for the rest
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  Speaker 4: of the year. There are anybody that's been watching college basketball,
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  Speaker 4: Prez knows that this year's crop of players that are
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  Speaker 4: going to be eligible for the draft. You know, it's
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  Speaker 4: not just the number one or number two guy and
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  Speaker 4: than who cares like there is legit. You know, eight
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  Speaker 4: to ten guys coming out of college this year that
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  Speaker 4: could change a franchise for the better. So there is
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  Speaker 4: more reason for a lot of these teams. And I
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  Speaker 4: notice no tanking in the NBA cordet, so never that's
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  Speaker 4: why the lottery, Yeah, that's why you know, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 4: ping punk balls, I get it. But the reality is you,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, how would you like to great I'm a
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  Speaker 4: Washington Wizards fans. I just got two legit all Stars
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  Speaker 4: and you're never gonna see them play the rest of
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  Speaker 4: the way. Utah is only gonna play their guys for
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  Speaker 4: three quarters. Like you gotta you gotta know this ahead
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  Speaker 4: of time before you start, especially betting the NBA early are.
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  Speaker 4: The difference between what you're seeing overnight money versus where
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  Speaker 4: it ends up is just it's crazy how much the
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  Speaker 4: price difference is. You're almost nuts to bet the NBA
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  Speaker 4: overnight at this particular point for what you can't.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and we were a few years ago. Now now
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  Speaker 1: it's absolutely made sense to get ahead of teams. Teams
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  Speaker 1: like Utah literally announce a tank and still win their games.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, well, yeah exactly.
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  Speaker 1: You can't even tank correctly in the NBA. B It's
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  Speaker 1: just it is a strange, strange situation. But I will
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  Speaker 1: say this, Joe, such an easy way to fix the tanking.
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  Speaker 1: The team who is first out of all the non
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  Speaker 1: playoff teams gets the first pick, and then the last
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  Speaker 1: team onwards gets two, three, four, five, and six. It's
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  Speaker 1: just it's like loading a plane back to front. There
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  Speaker 1: are just so many things that are so easy to fix.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I press The problem is you need to
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  Speaker 4: get the and I don't know how you do it,
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  Speaker 4: and I don't think it's possible. But this generation of
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  Speaker 4: NBA player, you know, could you imagine a time the
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  Speaker 4: Kolby Bryant, Like if Kolbe Bryant was a part of
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  Speaker 4: the Lakers and saw the shit they pulled last night
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  Speaker 4: where on the second of a back to back, right
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  Speaker 4: on your own home court, you got one of the
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  Speaker 4: top teams that the West coming into your building. You
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  Speaker 4: just lost to the backups of OKC the night before.
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  Speaker 4: You think you'd have a little motivation come into the
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  Speaker 4: All Star break to put you know, let's let's try.
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  Speaker 3: What do they do?
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  Speaker 4: They set everybody in that game and Wemby had twenty
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  Speaker 4: five points in eight minutes to start that game. It's
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  Speaker 4: a it's a thirty point blowout. And you're watching dudes
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  Speaker 4: named like what Bronni. You're expecting to see Lebron and
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  Speaker 4: you get Bronni James playing in the game. Drew Timmy like,
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  Speaker 4: come on, man, I mean it's not even it's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 4: Did you imagine Koby being like, I'm just gonna guys,
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  Speaker 4: it's a scheduled loss. I'm gonna take the night off
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  Speaker 4: here and schedule We're good to go. This is a
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  Speaker 4: scheduled loss here tonight.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think why don't they just not play the
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  Speaker 1: game at this point, we'll just call it a schedule.
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  Speaker 4: Long I'm cut the eighty two games into like, there's
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  Speaker 4: no reason I have eighty two games. Then if you're
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  Speaker 4: just gonna keep allowing teams to schedule that these losses,
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  Speaker 4: just go ahead. Just cut it back to sixty five
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  Speaker 4: games is something.
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  Speaker 1: You're good to go, guys, let's move our attention too
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  Speaker 1: sharp bets for today art Obviously we've got an absolutely
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  Speaker 1: enormous NBA card and college basketball card and yeah, some
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  Speaker 1: Olympics along the way. So any important things we need
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  Speaker 1: to know, any major bets being taken by you.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, we're gonna go NBA and then we'll go college NBA.
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  Speaker 2: They took six and a half with the Hawks at
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  Speaker 2: the Hornets. Man, the Hornets were laying a big number.
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  Speaker 2: Their power rating has really shot up here in the
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  Speaker 2: last two weeks, rightfully so. But they did take the Hawks.
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  Speaker 2: Piston's at Raptors. They took under twenty four and a
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  Speaker 2: half now to twenty three. They took the Blazers plus seven.
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  Speaker 2: That's now five and a half. They are at Minnesota
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  Speaker 2: tonight college basketball. Lasal took money at home plus thirteen.
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  Speaker 2: That's now eleven and a half VCU. As I mentioned
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  Speaker 2: Florida big money minus seven and a half, minus eight
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  Speaker 2: and a half, it's now nine and a half at Georgia.
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  Speaker 2: So they hit it twice, which you know you're approaching
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  Speaker 2: almost double digits in that game. Buffalo was a one
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  Speaker 2: point dog overnight. They're at ball State. They're now a
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  Speaker 2: one and a half point favorite in that game off
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  Speaker 2: sharp money, and then Marshall saw pretty good under money
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  Speaker 2: under one fifty five, now one fifty two in that game.
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  Speaker 2: I believe they're playing Old Dominion.
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  Speaker 3: Kind of crazy off the off the beaten pass.
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  Speaker 4: Now, how are you seeing when it comes to overnight
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  Speaker 4: money in the college basketball art? Are you seeing still
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  Speaker 4: the same uh, the same amount of handle with be's
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  Speaker 4: coming in overnight on college which is you know, you
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  Speaker 4: gotta worry less about who's actually going to be playing
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  Speaker 4: in college the next day.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, as opposed to the NBA.
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  Speaker 4: But are you seeing a lot of or is it
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  Speaker 4: just the same old, same old guys bent in the
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  Speaker 4: overnight lines and looking to try to push it one
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  Speaker 4: way or the.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's usually what it is. Srure, Like,
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  Speaker 2: we have one account who I don't think I've ever
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  Speaker 2: seen him make a bet day of game. He only bets,
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  Speaker 2: only bets college overnight, right, and his stuff's pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: So he bets a lot of overnight college and then
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  Speaker 2: you never see him again. So it's crazy. Like you said,
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  Speaker 2: he's trying to push a number maybe one way or
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  Speaker 2: the other, or he's really feeling good about his information
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  Speaker 2: or the spot that he's betting. So you see accounts
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  Speaker 2: like that, you know, there's not a ton of overnight stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to sit here and say we you
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  Speaker 2: know we take hundreds of bets overnight. We really don't.
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  Speaker 2: It's just, honey, you have to have overnight numbers out
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  Speaker 2: because everyone else has them. That's really the way it is.
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  Speaker 3: Does it happen in baseball to art?
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  Speaker 4: Do you get a lot of overnight action guys trying
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  Speaker 4: to get out in front of the number in the MLB?
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  Speaker 4: Or is it about the same like in college ares
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  Speaker 4: a handful of guys.
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  Speaker 2: I would say it's the same. You have one or
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  Speaker 2: two guys who are looking to do that even too,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, not bait. Not that baseball has
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  Speaker 2: a ton of guys who are always resting, but maybe
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  Speaker 2: they're looking in that type of Well, okay, you know
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  Speaker 2: these teams, this guy is a lot of day, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: waiting for lineups, things of that nature. So you see
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  Speaker 2: a little bit of that with our overnight baseball and listen,
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  Speaker 2: that's why overnight lines are always limited, right. You know
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  Speaker 2: you're not gonna get a full, you know, full bet
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  Speaker 2: on an overnight market. You're just not. I mean, that's
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  Speaker 2: why we have to limit the overnight bets because of.
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  Speaker 1: That art the caes you are joining us from the
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  Speaker 1: West Gate. Guys, hit that like button, do it right now,
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  Speaker 1: Make sure to comment art. Listen, there's a very good
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  Speaker 1: chance my best bet today is going to be on
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  Speaker 1: the Washington Wizards. They are plus seventeen. Well, Joe, I
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  Speaker 1: don't I think this is a horrible spot with Cleveland
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  Speaker 1: And I'll tell you, I'll talk I'll talk about it
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  Speaker 1: later in the best bet section. But Art, I want
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  Speaker 1: to know, we don't see a plus seventeen very often.
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  Speaker 3: No, I know, for the All Star Game apprable.
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  Speaker 1: What type action are you taking on this game?
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  Speaker 2: I mean on something on something like that, press the
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  Speaker 2: only bets you'll see or one of two ways. You'll
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  Speaker 2: see people who take the chance with the seventeen and
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  Speaker 2: then you'll have the can on all the all the
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  Speaker 2: money line parlays. They're gonna lay twelve dollars with Cleveland
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  Speaker 2: and put them in their five to six, seven eight teamers. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I will say this, when you have the Wizards, who
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  Speaker 2: are gonna be basically anywhere from seven to eight to
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  Speaker 2: one on the money line, you'll see some ten dollars
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  Speaker 2: bets on that, you know what I mean. You're not
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  Speaker 2: gonna see nickel and dime bets on that, but you're
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  Speaker 2: gonna see people who are just in the book for
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  Speaker 2: the night and they're like, you know what, I'll put
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  Speaker 2: twenty bucks on the Wizards. Maybe they'll win the game,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I mean, you'll see that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna be talking about the Wizard
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  Speaker 1: Cleveland game throughout the show. Joe Nira, You've got a
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  Speaker 1: new segment for us predictive markets and guys, this is
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  Speaker 1: this is Kelshi and the rest of them absolutely enormous
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  Speaker 1: volume bet in the predictive markets on a daily basis.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to tackle this, Joe, How are we doing this? Dude?
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  Speaker 1: We're doing guys aren't And I have no preparation here.
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  Speaker 1: We don't have a clue what Joe's plan is.
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  Speaker 3: So what kale us? You know?
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  Speaker 4: So what we've gotten over obviously the last month or so,
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  Speaker 4: obviously leading into the Super Bowl? As I told you,
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  Speaker 4: you know, places like Calshie and Polly Mark and now
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  Speaker 4: all over the place. Their sites got crashed on the
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  Speaker 4: Super Bowl Sunday because of the amount of action.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of people are not.
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  Speaker 4: They don't seem to understand the concept of it or
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  Speaker 4: what it is and what's separated. What's it different from
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  Speaker 4: walking into the Westgate compared to what it is here?
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  Speaker 3: How do you compare the odds?
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  Speaker 4: So let's just take a couple of these marks markets here, Prez,
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  Speaker 4: and I'll get your guys thoughts on it, and then
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  Speaker 4: we'll do the math and figure out if it makes sense.
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  Speaker 4: Does it make more sense to go into the Westgate
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  Speaker 4: and bet it with art? Is the number better there
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  Speaker 4: or is it better to go through the predictive markets.
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  Speaker 4: And the first one is if you were going to
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  Speaker 4: better Stanley Cup champion right now, who's going to win it?
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  Speaker 4: The Colorado Avalanche are your favorite? Yes, at twenty six cents.
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  Speaker 4: So to put that in perspective, pres if I bet
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  Speaker 4: Colorado one hundred bucks right now, I get three sixty
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  Speaker 4: five in return.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: If I think the Colorado Avalanche Tampa Bay Lightning are next,
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  Speaker 4: that's sixteen cents. That's a big difference between in the
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  Speaker 4: future market Colorado to Tampa Bay. Who do you think
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  Speaker 4: first press is gonna win it?
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  Speaker 3: Here?
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  Speaker 4: If you were gonna bet somebody, just a guy and
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  Speaker 4: win the Stanley Cup right now, is it just Colorado?
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  Speaker 3: And is that a cheap price in your mind right now? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: So plus three point fifty at DK, what are you
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  Speaker 1: at art, We're at Avalanche plus three hundred three to one? Okay, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So I putting all odds aside as in forget about
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  Speaker 1: what's going to find the best value. Colorado is going
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  Speaker 1: to win the Stanley Cup. This is a historically good
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  Speaker 1: hockey team, and I don't even think they're done yet.
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  Speaker 1: I think there's going to be a few trades along
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  Speaker 1: the way. So I mean, from my perspective, I think
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  Speaker 1: you're almost out a situation where it's Colorado in the field.
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  Speaker 1: That's how much better they are than everybody else. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think we've ever seen a team that is so dominant.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: Now things are going to change. You know, Vegas is loaded,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: and if they could get goaltending, I think Vegas from
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: a value perspective at plus eight hundred might be.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: The best bet.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: But man, I am not sold on their goaltending. Their
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: defense is lacking. But hey, the trade deadline is not
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: there yet, so you know, I need to reassess after
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: the trade deadline. But if everything stays exactly the way
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: it is, okay, all of out, it's Colorado or nothing.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: What about you, Art?
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: Is there any value in anybody outside of Colorado to you?
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: Do you? I mean, is it just Colorado or Bust
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: or the field?
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Like Press says, I'm with Press, I think it's I
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: think it's Vegas to Golden Knights. We actually have them
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: ten to one. Wow, I mean you look, you look
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: at the Knights that, yeah, we have them at ten
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: to one.
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: Ten to one, Well, tell you Calsh is nine cents,
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: so one hundred dollar bet wins me one thousand and
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: forty four. So it's a it's about it's about a
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: nine to one bet they are at Calshi. But here's
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: the thing, guys, and this is the thing that makes
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: predictive markets totally different. If I framed it like this
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: art and I said, listen, I could bet Colorado right
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: now twenty six cents, but I don't need for the
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: outcome to happen to get paid because at any point
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: between now and actually who wins it, I can can't.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: It's like a stock pras I can cash it out
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: at any time. So does it make sense to get
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: Vegas at nine?
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: Sense?
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: It's so interesting And.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: If they make a run, can I cash it out
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: of twenty five cents? If they make it there?
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: So it's so interesting, guys, because the bigger question is
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: should you be cashing these tickets out? Rather than can
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: you worse you can't, I would argue that you should
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: never cash these tickets out. I would argue that the
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: whole concept of cashing tickets out is a is a
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: negative if you are a successful better And we talk
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: about this when we talk about hedging bets or arbitrage
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: or any of that stuff. If you if you got
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: a if you have a good bet in your hand,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: don't muck it up by cashing it out. I never
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: cash out in game bets. You know, when you have
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: like a you know, Seattle minus five and a half
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: with the Super Bowl or up by fourteen, and you
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: can cash the bet out. No, you are leaving money
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: on the table if you cast these bets out.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: I believe you. I think you are. I'm making money
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: by cashing it out. I'm not.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: I'm absolutely I could bet like you said, Press, I
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: could get Tampa Bay Lightning at sixteen cents, Carolina ten cents,
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: Vegas at nine, Edmonton at eight, Minnesota at six. I
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: can bet all five of them and wait for them
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: to gain ten cents by making a run at Colorado, and.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: Then cash it all out and Colorado still wins.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: And you know what, I invested in five other teams
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: like you said, to the field, and I didn't have
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: to wait, by the way till June to cast my
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: money out. I could have gotten out at any time
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: and made a profit.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: All right, I'll go to you because I want your
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: thoughts on this. So I understand what Joe is saying,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: But that is a different show. That's not a sports
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: betting show. If you're going to be buying these tickets
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: and cashing them out, that's a whole different model. That's
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: you playing.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: You're an ark. That's what that pence predictive markets. That's difference.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: And what I'm saying is that makes you a day trader.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: You can make money, it's great. But if you're if
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: you believe that you could hit fifty four percent across
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: a thousand bets over a long period of time, don't
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: you dare cash out a bet and buck up that math?
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: Ever, Well, no, you're never gonna get that kind of
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: return on a cash out bet anyway. You're only that
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: the numbers are awful as far as going right exactly this.
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: You don't have to tie up capital and wait for
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: the event to happen. You can actually make your profits
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: and move on and reinvest in something out And I got.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: No problem with it.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: It's just not what we do.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: What are your thoughts correct?
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: I actually think you're both right in the sense. Joe's
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: right when you look at futures, if you want to
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: bet it that way and just take your profits, like
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: you said, it's great for futures because if you're making
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: a bet, let's say early in the NHL season October, November, December,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: and then, like you said, you gotta wait all the
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: way to mid June to catch it. You could have
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: four or five teams take your profit, move on, reinvest
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: somewhere out. So yeah, when you come to futures, I
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: love that because I'm a big futures player, so I
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: think that's great. But Press, you're right on the daily stuff.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: I'll say this, and you know, obviously I'll probably get
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: killed in the comments for this, but if you're a
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: sports book and you're offering something to someone like a
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: cash out, it's probably not.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Good for the play ye.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Warranty. Yeah, that's when the blackjack dealer asks you.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: If you want to insurance like you no, no, you don't,
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: you don't do it. I totally agree. But like I said,
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: I think both can be right, and I think the
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: future stuff is definitely you could be a guy or
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: a girl who moves your your money into that field
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: and says, hey, let me just start kind of investing
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: in futures and taking my profit you know, week in,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: you know, week out, month and month out, whatever the
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: case may be. I think that's a fun way to
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: attack futures.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: The only way I would do it because I don't
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: have to wait for somebody to get hurt.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: I don't I agree you buy low, you say it.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: So the whole point of this was due for those
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: that have not dove into the cow season. But you
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: keep hearing about it, and if you've ever wondered, well,
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: what the hell's the difference between that? Or why don't
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: I just walk in somewhere and throw it down at fandol, Well,
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: here's the difference. The difference is you're buying low, you're
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: selling high, and you you don't have to wait for
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: the outcome. And it sometimes I mean major league based
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: right art thirty three cents right now for the Dodgers
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: to win fourteen cents for Seattle, ten cents for New
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: York and your Toronto Blue Jays there, Prez, I could
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: bet them right now at seven cents right that they
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: are actually going to be the world champions this year
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: at seven cents. So I'm buying in right now. If
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: it happens at seven cents, one hundred dollar bet is
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: thirteen forty one. But again, my goal isn't for them
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: to actually run the table. My goal is for them
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: to get the thirty cents brands right or thirty five
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: cents and get the hell out and then look for
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: something else. But that's the whole concept of Calci and
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: polymarket versus Joost Joe.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Interestingly enough, and we'll get into some other stuff as well.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Kelcey Wise, what we're finding out is that the odds
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: are very similar, so DC as Toronto Blue Jays at
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: plus fourteen hundred, which is basically what you said. Yeah,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: so really there is very little difference in the odds.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: But the real advantage is that you can sell your
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: bets early. And I do like that concept in a
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: future's environment, but I hate that concept in a daily environment.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: What other kelshake questions do you have for us?
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: Well?
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: And you have it because when you go to different
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: things like, for instance, we'll go to how about crypto
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: for instance, because you're a big crypto here today?
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: Ready, so right now.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: Will bitcoins brice today come at time of recording, we're
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: about twenty minutes away here from noon eastern. Right at
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: noon eastern, will it be over sixty six five or over.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Sixty six two fifty? What do you think? How would
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: you bet?
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: Is it going to continue to rise or continue to fall.
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: You're over the next twenty.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Minutes continue to fall. I would bet under sixty sixty fifty.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Right now it is sixty six three two seven. It
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: was sixty seven ten minutes ago. So I think it
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: is going to fall. I actually think it's going to
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: plummet over the next few months. But that's all the question,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: and I don't I'd like to be wrong on that.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Remember in nineteen seventy six against the Russians yep marked out? Today?
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Is it real chance I'm wrong again today? Please let
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: me be wrong.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: Well, let me ask you this, BRIT's how low will
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: bitpoint get in February below fifty seven to five or below.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Sixty below fifty seven to five? Please let me be wrong?
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: Twenty nine cents right now at that market you can
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: cut in and you're looking at a one hundred dollar
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: ways and a win three oho eight.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: There you go. I think that's a reasonable ben. I
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: actually think it might go.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: You don't have to tie it up for more than yeah,
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: you know, two weeks.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Joe, I think is there is there alternate lines at
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Kelshi alternately?
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely, tell me what you're thinking. I think it's.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Going to go below forty five.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: Okay, below forty five, let's say, all right, so below
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: fifty is ten cents, below forty is four cents.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: Present there you go.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Uh, listen again. I hope I'm wrong. I hope I'm wrong.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: Friends, between now, over the next two weeks, the lower
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: it drops, the more money you're gonna make.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: If you're below forty thousand dollars.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I want to be wrong. Okay, I know
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: I want it to be over one hundred thousand.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: That's a lot.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: The predictive markets are all about. It's get in by low,
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: wait for the market to go into your favor, and
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: then a decision, Get in, get out, all right.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: I feel like Joe's just about to give out an
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: affiliate code to Kelshay No.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: And by the way, Polly market is different odds too,
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: by the way, to cats the same thing we always say,
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: shot and get the best numbers around. There's more, Yeah,
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: there's more than one place. Everybody's getting into this. And
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: if you're a serious sports banner, this is the way.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: I mean.
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: I would never make a future bet in a book anymore.
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: But I would never make I would only look in
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: in these markets only.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: I'm starting to think that way. I'm a futurest guy.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: I have a ton of futures work in.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: Why not.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you because that's always the problem and
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: it's right.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Nate.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: McKinnon gets injured tomorrow, get out of your bet.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: That's like a like small sample size. Let's say you
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: bet the Hornets two weeks ago to win their division.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: Correct.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Now, you probably made quadruple your money on the Hornets
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: to win their division.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: Correct.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: I mean you probably really profited and they probably won't
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: win their division. You're like, let me get out, now,
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: take my profit and reinvest.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Ye.
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, we'll let me ask you this the art
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: real quick here, just to give you something on a
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: compare apples apples. Let's go to the PGA Tour for instance, right,
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: Pebble Beach. Scotty Scheffler to win Pebble Beach this week
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: most places, what three to one, four to one, something
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: along those lines, Yeah, five to two right somewhere along yeah, right,
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: So basically you could lock in on Scotty Scheffler to
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: win this thing, right, the PGA Pebble Beach Tournament here
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: and all he's got to do is be leading after
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: the first or second round, and there it goes. That
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: number is gonna go right, So you don't have to
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: wait until the outcome of the game. You'll be able
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: to lock him in no lower than fifty five sixty
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: cents if we get to the weekend and he's within
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: one or two strokes of the league.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean, speaking of golf, could you could
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: start doing that with majors you mastered by Yeah, you
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: buy three to five guys and then by the time
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: they tee off, correct, you've probably made money on the
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: guys if you can know the way they're going to
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: be playing heading in and you bet a guy at
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: forty to one and when he teas off he's twenty
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: five to one. Yep, Hey, you probably made some money.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: So you could do that too with the majors. Probably
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: the same thing in tennis. Maybe not as much in
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: tennis because obviously the men's the top two guys, but
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: maybe in the women's yep, why not that.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, men's tennis is a little bit of a mess
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: right now.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: It's a little bit of influence there. But my point is, guys,
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of different ways. This just opens up
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: the ability for you to be able to profit in
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: different ways in different markets among the same things. So
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: and plus it offers all the other markets that, like
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: you said, Art, I can't bet on the color at
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: a Gatorade in Vegas, like I can't bet on who
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: the next governor of this state or that state is
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: gonna be.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: You can do all that on these predictive markets here.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: And we're gonna do this. We're gonna talk predicted markets regularly, guys, Joe.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: We will be still taping in thirteen minutes, so we'll
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: know whether we want to lost that bitcoin back. Correct,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: We've got now down to sixty one eighty we're in
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, so we got twelve. I again, I
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: want to be wrong. I want to be wrong. Let's
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: turn our attention to the parlay of the day, and
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: I'm sticking with the Washington Wizard at plus seventeen. Art.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Interesting, I'm gonna lay six and a half with am
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: at home against Missouri.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: Joe, Oh, your dirty dog.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: It pains me to do this, but I gotta bet
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: New Orleans over Miami tonight the NBA. It's the third
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: and fourth for Miami and the fact that they literally
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: were being handed the opportunity to win that game, and
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: they didn't against Utah. They they're running out of steam
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: right now. And again, no, Norman's already out. I don't
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: is Tyler Herro even in the league anymore. I don't know.
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: Wiggins is still hurt. So yeah, I think New Orleans
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: at Home might be the play here tonight.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, there aren't anything to promote.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Now. I mean, listen, this is a great show. I
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: think we had we found a new fun segment. And
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: unfortunately I'm not on the show tomorrow, but I am
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: back Friday, so I'll see everyone Friday.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: Oh, there you go, Art to Caesar. Everyone guys hit
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: that like button. Please, And also, now that NFL and
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: college football are behind us, put up in the comment
• 32:21
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• 32:24
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• 32:28
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• 32:31
  Speaker 1: it up in the comment section. We still got lots
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: more show to go. We got our best bets. I'll
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: be doing a rundown, so will Joe, and of course
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: we'll end the show with the mail bag section.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: Joe. Right now, I'm for business, I'm for business.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Brother, seventy nine dollars one week of all our college
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: basketball places is a buy one, get one offer. I've
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: lost my last two winning night last night in college hoops.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: We're down one since Monday on this program. That means
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: it's a great time to buy. I got a college
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: basketball play up tonight that I absolutely love, and Joe
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: and I are gonna kill it in college hoops moving forward.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: We have been over the last month. So guys, please,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: seventy nine dollars, you get a week of Joe's college
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: basketball and a week of my college basketball. It's a
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: really great offer and we should be profitable by the
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: end of it all. So yeah, head over to Joe's
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: page or my page, take advantage of the buy one,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: get one offer, and that's it. That's it with me, dude.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: I got two NBA and one college hoops going tonight.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: What about you?
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, gotta love it there, Yeah, take advantage of it, guys.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: Hop on.
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: I've got two college basketball plays ready to roll, as
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: well as two NBA plays up and ready to go
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: here on a loaded card here tonight in both so
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: take advantage and get not one, but well really two
• 33:58
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• 34:02
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• 34:04
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• 34:07
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• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Let's do it, Joe, it's twelve oh five, brother, Uh
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: sixty five, nine sixty six. I was right on bitcoin
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: being's it forty. I'm upset that I was right, but uh,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: and nobody could take advantage of it either, because the
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: show wasn't up online anyway. Let's get too out.
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: It just proves our points. You could have got in
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: and got out and welcome to the predictive market.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, Joe. I got three NBA bets. I want
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: to give out two of them on the rundown one
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: right now. My best bet is Washington plus seventeen against Cleveland.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: And let me bottom line this year, guys. Look, obviously,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Cleveland's one of the best teams in the league and
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: hot as hell. They just won four straight. They won
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: nine of their last ten, and they beat some good
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: teams along the way. They speat Denver one nineteen to
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  Speaker 1: one seventeen. But if you watch that game, it felt
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  Speaker 1: like Cleveland was just about to regress slightly. And I
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  Speaker 1: think this is a bad spot for them. They're coming
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  Speaker 1: over from a five game West Coast road trip. I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to bet these East Coast teams on the
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  Speaker 1: first game back of a West Coast road trip. They
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  Speaker 1: do not normally do well, and on top of that,
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  Speaker 1: they have to win by seventeen points. This has let
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  Speaker 1: down written all over them. They're tired from the road trip,
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  Speaker 1: they're unhappy that they're back with their women. They're in
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  Speaker 1: a letdown spot. They don't care about Washington, and Washington
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  Speaker 1: has not been horrendous. I mean, it's not like they're
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  Speaker 1: on some nine to ten game losing streak. They didn't
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  Speaker 1: beat Detroit, they didn't beat Sacramento. They have won two
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  Speaker 1: of their last five games. I think Washington's gonna keep
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  Speaker 1: it closer.
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  Speaker 3: Joe.
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  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, this is way too big enough, horrible,
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  Speaker 1: horrible spot for Cleveland.
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  Speaker 3: I like that Prez a lot.
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  Speaker 4: In fact, all right, so you've got although lesson let's
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  Speaker 4: face it, I mean, it's a lot of points on
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  Speaker 4: any given day, whether they're back or not.
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  Speaker 3: But I agree with you.
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  Speaker 4: I think there's I think there's some big time value
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  Speaker 4: in that play there, all right. My best bet here today,
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  Speaker 4: pres let me get that set up. Here is going
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  Speaker 4: to be in college basketball. We'll go to college hoops here,
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  Speaker 4: and I think I like Ohio State to get it
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  Speaker 4: done here today against USC. Listen, anytime you get USC
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  Speaker 4: crossing the country, it's never a good thing here.
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  Speaker 3: USC.
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  Speaker 4: They are one and four in Quad one games so
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  Speaker 4: far this year, but this would go a long way
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  Speaker 4: into securing their spot into March madness here. Not to
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  Speaker 4: mention at eight of their last nine games have been
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  Speaker 4: decided by six points or less. But the problem is
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  Speaker 4: they're gonna be missing likely Chad Baker Mazzara, their best
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  Speaker 4: player here, really the heart and soul of this team.
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  Speaker 4: I think that they're gonna be able to come up
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  Speaker 4: just a little bit short once again, and ultimately the
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  Speaker 4: frustration level like we usually see with USC, especially when
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  Speaker 4: they have to come to the east side of town,
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  Speaker 4: is not good here. I think Ohio State has enough firepower.
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  Speaker 4: They've been very good at home. They are owing seven
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  Speaker 4: in Quad one games. They have missed a few opportunities
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  Speaker 4: to get a big one. I think they get it
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  Speaker 4: done here tonight. I think they get USC and I
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  Speaker 4: think they are on their way to solidifying another big
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  Speaker 4: ten heading the march madness here, Prez.
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  Speaker 1: Joe, let's move to the NBA rundown. I got two
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  Speaker 1: bets for you guys. The first is in the Milwaukee
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  Speaker 1: Bucks Orlando Magic game. And look, these guys played each
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  Speaker 1: other two days ago, went under the total one to
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  Speaker 1: eighteen ninety nine. It was a blowout with the Magic,
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  Speaker 1: and I think we're going to see another under tonight.
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  Speaker 1: The line is two twenty and a half. And look,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: the bottom line here is the element of surprise is gone.
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  Speaker 1: These teams know each other. We've seen this over and
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  Speaker 1: over again. These short revenge games tend to play to
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  Speaker 1: the under. The defense will be tighter, the rotations will
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  Speaker 1: be sharper, the easy buckets should disappear. I think this.
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  Speaker 1: I know two twenty and a half eels low in
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  Speaker 1: this day and age. I don't want to overthink this.
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  Speaker 1: Even if Wagner plays thirty minutes tonight for Orlando, his
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  Speaker 1: efficiency is likely going to regress. He's not going to
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  Speaker 1: be shooting sixty percent from the field forever. Take the
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  Speaker 1: under and the Atlanta Hawks. They're playing Charlotte tonight. Plus
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: five and a half for Atlanta, and I like the dog.
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  Speaker 1: The market is reacting to an injury report and a
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  Speaker 1: venue change. But the maths doesn't add up here. We
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  Speaker 1: are getting five and a half points with an Atlanta
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  Speaker 1: team that has just played the same Charlotte squad to
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  Speaker 1: the wire on Saturday. And don't get old g huddled
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  Speaker 1: over questionable tags Jayalen Johnson, Dyson Daniels. They missed the
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  Speaker 1: last game against Minnesota. I expect them both to play tonight.
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  Speaker 1: The market is pricing them out or hurt. I think
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  Speaker 1: we're going to see them on the floor. The bottom
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  Speaker 1: line here, Joe is I'm not overthinking this. Not only
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  Speaker 1: do I think Atlanta can win this game, but I
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  Speaker 1: get five and a half points, I'm taking them, Joe,
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  Speaker 1: what's going on?
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  Speaker 4: I like you, Screw you Charlotte and your winning streaks
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  Speaker 4: over anyway, All right, Prez, let's talk some college troops
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  Speaker 4: and i's some big matchups, some big opportunities for teams
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  Speaker 4: that might be on the bubble here, and I think
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: Texas A and M is looking first and foremost to
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  Speaker 4: try and wash that taste out of their mouth from
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: getting absolutely boat raced by the universe City of Florida
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  Speaker 4: over the weekend. They are home again. They are taking
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  Speaker 4: on Missouri here tonight. And it's interesting because we've seen
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  Speaker 4: a lot of tickets and money coming in on A
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  Speaker 4: and M so far today, but it hasn't really moved much.
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  Speaker 3: Six and a half is the number.
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  Speaker 4: Listen, Bucky Ball, Bucky McMillan, new head coach of the Texas.
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  Speaker 3: A and M.
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  Speaker 4: Maggie's I don't know anybody that had them sitting right
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  Speaker 4: now with sixteen wins on the season, seven to three
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  Speaker 4: in the SEC standings, a game behind Florida. But they're
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  Speaker 4: taking on this Missouri team who's also on the bubble.
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  Speaker 4: But they're gonna be an underdog here, and they've got
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: absolutely no perimeter defense. And if it's the one thing
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  Speaker 4: that we know about A and M, they shoot thirty
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  Speaker 4: seven percent from three, even better at home. Florida was
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  Speaker 4: a terrible defensive matchup for him. Missouri gonna be much easier.
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: Not to mention, Missouri doesn't hit a ton of threes.
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  Speaker 4: Missouri loves to play inside the paints. Hate to break
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  Speaker 4: it to them here they can have all the paint
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  Speaker 4: points they want. Three is more than two in Texas
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  Speaker 4: A and M. Fifteen and eight against the number. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: meanwhile nine only nine covers in twenty three games from
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  Speaker 4: Missouri this year. I think A and M has the
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  Speaker 4: math in their favorite pres and I think they get
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  Speaker 4: it done and don't sleep on Pepperdine here tonight. Saint
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: Mary's opened up as a twenty five and a half
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  Speaker 4: point favorite, and now we're starting to see that tick down,
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  Speaker 4: much like we saw it happen with Houston yesterday against Utah.
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  Speaker 4: They were up to an eighteen and a half point favorite.
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  Speaker 4: That game closed down to sixteen and a half. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: and they didn't get the cover. They did get to win.
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  Speaker 4: I think the same thing happens here tonight with Pepperdine
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  Speaker 4: staying within the number.
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  Speaker 1: There, Prez Joe, let's get to our mailback section of
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  Speaker 1: the show. One of our listeners, Roy says, pres he
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: loved the Olympic segment. He wants Olympic bet every single day.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, brother, I got one for you of Finland
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  Speaker 1: taking on Canada tomorrow in women's hockey. That's Thursday, over
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  Speaker 1: five and a half. I absolutely love this play over
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  Speaker 1: five and a half on the Canada Finland women's hockey
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  Speaker 1: game tomorrow. So thank you, Roy. There you go. Not
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