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The GLP-1 craze: my honest take as a weight loss dietitian · SAY GRACE | Weight Loss + Health for Overwhelmed Women- Stress, Busy, Consistency, Realistic, Motivation, Starting Over, No Restrictions

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  Music.
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  Okay, here we go. I almost titled this episode GLP-1. I don't discourage it and I don't support it.
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  And so I really want to just start out, you know, prefacing with that.
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  My thoughts, my opinion, it's very, you know, it's very widespread.
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  Like it's very not set in stone. You know, I would be an undecided party,
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  you know, if I were to be asked, you know, where I stood.
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  And that is just simply because of experience and knowledge of a GLP-1 thus far.
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  Okay, I am seeing results from this medication pretty regularly at this point
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  in my business and in my personal life.
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  And they're not all good, y'all, but they're also not all bad.
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  And so I'm definitely just straddling that fence because, you know,
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  I believe each person needs to walk her own journey.
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  And that may mean that what works for you isn't what's going to work for me
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  or what you need isn't what she needs, you know? And so that's very much the case here.
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  And so I want to just like, you know, really guard my guard myself here and
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  say, you know, if you're listening to this podcast preparing to be offended, then you likely will be.
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  You know, you're probably going to, you know, turn it off and be offended because
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  you are going to choose to pull out the things that I say that go against your
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  specific belief and you're only going to hear that, right?
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  But I really encourage you to listen to each of these episodes and hear me from
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  both sides because as I sit here,
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  I can 100% tell you that with each and every client that I have,
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  My answer would be different on my opinion of whether they should start one or not, okay?
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  And also, I can 100% sit here and tell you that I have avoided this topic for
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  so long because I haven't been able to find my voice.
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  I didn't feel like my voice was going to be what it needed to be for you to
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  hear about GLP Ones, you know, from my perspective.
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  And that is no longer the case. The Lord has put this on my heart in a way that
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  is unfortunately unavoidable.
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  You know, I'm kind of like, are you sure, God? And he's like,
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  yeah, I'm sure. You know what I mean? And I think it is.
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  So with that being said, like, I know this is right. You know,
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  like, I know I should be doing this.
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  Now, did I say that I know I'm, you know, everyone's going to agree or everyone's
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  going to? No, I didn't say that. But I know that it's my time to speak out on this.
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  If not for my own good, you know, to just kind of get it out there.
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  Because, you know, I'm an open book, y'all. And sometimes it's just...
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  For me, and people don't understand this, but for me, it's like if I, oh, there's my alarm.
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  Oh, to breathe and pray, by the way. Thank you, Jesus. Here we go.
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  He is telling me it is, you know, it is right.
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  But for me, like, because I do, I speak, I speak the truth.
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  I am not ashamed to, you know, put things out there that are real and raw and
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  vulnerable and scary and all the things, right?
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  Like this topic for me, I have felt bound up by for a while now because I haven't
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  been able or I haven't felt confident.
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  I have been kind of overwhelmed with fear again for offending someone to speak out on it.
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  And so for me, it's like the Lord saying like, yeah, it's time for you to just
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  own it, own your thoughts, own your own, just all of the, you know,
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  perspective that you have.
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  And also it's time for the people to hear that. you know, the people that value
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  your opinion to just hear it.
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  And so I wanted to, you know, start with that because I want you guys to know
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  that this comes with every ounce of my heart.
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  And I don't know, I just, I hope that it is received that way.
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  And so I'm going to dive into first why I cannot fully support the use of GLP-1.
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  And then I'm going to follow with why I could fully support the use of GLP-1, okay?
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  And then I do want to hit just some points for like, I think it's really important
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  to understand like the depth of me as the expert, me as the dietitian who sees the whole picture,
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  me as the person, y'all, that is like,
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  you know, so many of my clients are like, my friends are on GLP-1 and blah, blah, blah.
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  And I'm like, okay, you're just hearing the good parts, you know,
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  like, I see all the parts, right?
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  I stick with the person for the aftermath.
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  I, you know, like, and so, because, you know, people...
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  Like with friends or with family, like people guard themselves.
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  And so they're not going to like come to you and be like, yeah,
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  I'm on DLP1 and like I'm living my best life.
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  But also I'm having these struggles and also I'm having this, you know, whatever.
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  And so I think it's really important to hear it from a party who has like,
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  y'all, people treat me like they're therapists. You know what I mean?
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  I don't know why I did not ask for that job, but the Lord thought you make like
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  a good weight loss dietician therapist.
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  And so I think just hearing my perspective on that and maybe giving some reasons
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  why my uncertainty for speaking out on it like has been a thing can be very
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  helpful in just understanding again, the full picture of it all.
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  So I'm going to start, y'all, I'm so sorry again. Let me apologize now.
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  I'm gonna be clearing my throat and stuff.
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  If I cannot get rid of just congestion down here in Mississippi, Lord have mercy.
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  Okay, I'm gonna start with why I can't fully support the use of a GLP-1, okay?
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  And the first one I think is pretty like common, right? It's the unknowns of the side effects, okay?
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  Like new side effects are coming out daily, not daily, but pretty often, right?
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  And it's scary. What that tells us is it hasn't been on the market long enough
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  to really know what the side effects could be, right? Right.
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  And as much as I love and support medication, I don't believe for a second that,
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  you know, maybe all like pharma companies are really pushing.
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  Right. They want to get it out. They want to you know, they don't want to waste
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  their money. They want to make money, like all the things. Right. And so.
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  While I know we can trust medications, I feel like the way we know we can fully
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  trust medications is as if they've been on the market for a while to say like,
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  OK, well, this has been on the market and we haven't seen, you know, any crazy town results.
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  And so, you know, this is this is safe, you know, and like so there are people
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  that are, I hate to use the word guinea pigs, but that kind of is what it is.
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  Like when a new drug comes on the market, like, yes, we trust our doctors and
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  we trust the science and whatever that it's safe.
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  But like, again, long term, what do we know? And you as an individual, what do we know?
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  You know what I mean? And so it's just that, like random side effects, random things.
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  But also the side effects that I am aware of from people I know,
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  okay? I have heard of so many people on this medication, like having to make
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  ER visits. And that is just scary to me, y'all.
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  But again, I am one. And Jess says I'm very different.
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  Like, you know, I'm just hyper aware of my body, hyper aware of my health.
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  So like if I have a stomach ache for more than a few days in a row,
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  it's going to send me into a spiral.
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  And so, you know, I'm like, oh, my gosh, is it, you know, am I going to have to have surgery?
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  Am I going to, you know, like I am, I am that person. And again,
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  that is not, that is not something to brag about.
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  Right. But I am who I am. And so the like that that kind of unknown about maybe
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  what this medication is doing to my body to cause this is just it's extremely like overwhelming.
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  And it's something I can't get behind. You know, like, yeah,
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  you may have some crazy stomach side effects, but go ahead. You know what I'm saying?
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  And then again, I'm getting to why I can, because on the same flip of the coin,
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  right, we are seeing some amazing results and studies coming out showing that
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  GLP-1. And like the power of things that it did that like we didn't even realize
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  it was going to do, right?
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  Like helping people with addiction and weight loss.
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  Like it really was originally meant for diabetes, you know? And so anyway,
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  again, I'm going to get to that.
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  So I should have started with the positive, I guess. But another reason I can't
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  support it rightfully is that the defeat I hear from so many who have regained
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  the weight after getting off of it, okay?
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  We have so many new clients that come to us saying they regained the weight,
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  okay? and what is so unfortunate about it is it's not even just that. It's like,
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  they felt so good, they felt so confident on this medication,
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  and they had lost the weight.
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  And so then it's like, it's not only they've regained the weight,
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  but it's their mindset is like, I can't do it on my own, you know,
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  because like, yet again,
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  it's this medic, like the medication has proven to them that they can only do
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  it with the medication, you know.
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  And so it's another, it's a deeper level of defeat that I literally in all my
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  years of weight loss have not experienced from people because this was like
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  an intervention, right?
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  Up until now, all weight loss methods have been action oriented, right?
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  And so, or either like surgery, you know, and so then the surgery is something
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  that sticks forever, right?
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  And it, well, actually not, that's not true. You can, you can regain there too,
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  but, but, but, you know, most of the weight loss methods have been action oriented.
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  And so it's, it's, it's just, it's a different thing.
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  I feel like for people who have been on GLP one and then got off,
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  you know, when it was, it was altering, you know, the way they thought about
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  food, it was altering the way they, you know, felt hunger and,
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  and, and, and it was altering the amount of food they chose to eat.
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  Like all the things like they were altered, you know what I mean?
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  It would be like being on, you know, oh my gosh, like, like caffeine,
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  like having a cup of coffee every single day and then all of a sudden not having it, right?
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  It's like, oh my gosh, I'm a totally different person and I can't function in
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  the day without my caffeine, right? It's kind of that thing.
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  It's just such a deeper defeat that I have noticed, okay?
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  And unfortunately, the reality is, and I hate to say this, but it is the reality.
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  Stacey and I were actually on a webinar last week about GLP-1s and just some
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  of the new medications that they've got coming down the line, but they were like.
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  Recapping studies with these medications. And like, it doesn't matter the brand,
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  it doesn't matter, you know, whatever the results are, is that two thirds of
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  people regain the weight within a year after quitting GLP-1.
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  Okay. And so this is like really where it sits for me, because I'm like,
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  well, this is just another, you know, for two thirds of the people,
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  this is just another like quick fix. Okay.
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  And so again, don't, again, don't be getting offended because I am going to
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  discuss like how, how it's distinguished between a quick fix for some and not for others.
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  But the reality of it is, is that people, most people are regaining the weight,
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  which goes against literally everything I believe.
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  It goes against everything I talk about here, right? If you are instantly only
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  regaining the 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80 pounds you're losing, then you have not made the lifestyle.
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  Change and the habit change that you needed to have made while using this medication
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  that was meant to help you in that direction, right?
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  And so, and that comes down to like, I could go and, oh my gosh,
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  I could do a whole new episode on this, but like, that's our fault.
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  You know, That is the practitioner's fault for not providing a resource for
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  wellness and habit forming and even mental help during this medication.
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  Like these doctors, y'all, so many of y'all, or not y'all, but maybe y'all,
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  right, are walking into your doctor's office saying, oh, I can't lose weight.
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  And your doctor's saying, well, your BMI is, you know, you could be qualified for GLP-1.
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  You want to try it? And then the answer is yes. and then you're checking in
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  every few months and that's it, right?
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  Whereas like, what are the deeper reasons that you can't lose weight?
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  Like physically, like, is it hormones?
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  Is it just food preferences, right? Is it stress? Like, what are those deeper reasons? But also...
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  Are you just putting a Band-Aid on those reasons while you take this medication?
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  And if the answer is yes, well, then heck yeah, as soon as the medication ends,
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  you're going to regain it, right?
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  Because no real work was done if you aren't getting to the root and really like
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  trying to adopt healthy lifestyle, healthy habit practices while taking the medication, okay?
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  And so why I can support GLP-1, we're just going to dive off into that, okay?
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  Y'all this medication which it
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  I mean it is this is what it's really designed for what it's really meant
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  for in the in the weight loss phase is it has changed the lives of people who
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  have true food addiction like life changing for people which is why and I totally
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  get it like this is why some people will come come at me over this because this
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  medicine legit changed their lives You know what I mean?
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  Like they have been stuck in a pit of overwhelm around food,
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  like obsession over food, like all the things.
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  And then this medication is like they finally got a light.
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  You know, they finally saw the light. And so that to me is like something to cry about.
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  I mean, honestly, because like there are people who are so tied up over food
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  that they feel hopeless every single day.
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  They feel helpless every single day. And so for something to come in and to
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  be able to just like help them get out of the pit, get out of the depths of
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  their shame and their in the control that food has over them,
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  that is, that is actually life changing, right?
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  Okay. And again, like I mentioned earlier, that it's got to be paired with creating
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  a habit so that maybe we don't have to rely on this forever, right?
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  And creating, getting to the root, like, why?
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  Like, y'all, none of us are just born into the world with food addiction or,
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  you know, trauma related to food.
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  Like, we have had experiences that have put us there, you know,
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  over time, or maybe it was one large experience.
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  Like, I don't know, everybody's different again. And so like,
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  you have to do the work alongside. If you're one of these people that is like
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  really food is an addiction, food is, you know.
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  Consumes way too much of your space, right? You have to figure out why you have
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  to get to the root of why and work out of that.
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  And that's not going to be the root is not going to be I just need to eat more salads.
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  I just need to stop eating cookies. Like that is not the root.
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  The root is some real hard, real deep mental, emotional work. Okay.
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  And so that is like, I mean, I can get 100% behind that, you know,
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  because I know people, y'all, I know people very close to me who have this,
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  this, this experience with food.
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  I have watched it for years upon years with some of my like greatest friends,
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  okay, greatest family members.
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  And so I can 100% get behind, you know, the risks that I just mentioned,
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  right, for those people, you know.
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  Another reason is it can improve quality and length of life, right?
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  Like that is the science, like that's what science wants to talk about, right?
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  That's what these doctors want to get out here and talk about is if you are
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  obese, you are at higher risk for life-threatening conditions,
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  period, exclamation point, okay?
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  If you have excess body fat, you are more at risk for your heart not functioning
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  properly, liver, lungs, I mean, literally everything, your joints,
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  your lymph, like everything is at higher risk.
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  Cancer, inflammation, like you're at higher risk.
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  So literally getting some of this weight off is allowing your body to go.
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  We can breathe, we can function properly.
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  Okay, just like I talked about on the metabolism podcast, right,
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  like we're trying to get back to homeostasis.
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  And so by getting rid of some of this fat, your body is working like not as
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  hard and is more able to get back to that homeostasis.
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  Okay, and so obviously this drug, can help that, help improve the, the, the, like,
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  risks of health issues, but also just like you feel better because your body's
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  not having to work so hard.
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  You will live longer because, again, your body's not having to work so hard, okay?
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  And so again, I want to, this can happen with just weight loss, right?
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  But if you're someone who, you know, it just can't seem to like,
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  weight loss just can't seem to happen, you know, like, and then you take a GLP-1
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  and it does, like, that's what the doc, that's what these doctors are looking at.
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  Like they're looking at people coming in their door who like just keep gaining
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  weight year after year, especially the ones that like may not be as concerned
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  about it or just like no, like food has a hold on them or whatever.
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  And they're like, okay, can I save this person's life?
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  Can I give them a longer, you know, healthier life?
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  Okay, let's prescribe this GLP-1, you know?
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  And yeah like obesity is
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  being looked at more as an illness right it is
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  an illness like and then that's something we as a as a culture have
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  to and I think we've done about a good job over the past probably 10 or 20 years
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  like improving our perspective on weight and obesity you know and maybe not
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  being as judgmental but really we still have a really long way to go there and
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  and the truth of the matter is it's an illness okay and so and I'm going to
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  talk about that more later on in this episode,
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  but like with obesity being an illness, it's just like everything else, right?
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  Like we are looking for a cure, right?
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  And so I can fully get behind this perspective. And again, I'm going to talk
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  about this a little bit more in later points on this episode.
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  And so I think I'm just going to dive off into that, okay?
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  Because I think obviously there's benefits to it. and I want to be clear that, you know.
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  While there are benefits to it, there are maybe some other things that need
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  to be considered before, you know, we just say, oh, Constance said there's benefits to it, right?
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  And so I want to, I really want to share like my uncertainties for why,
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  why I haven't really felt comfortable speaking out on it.
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  And so again, y'all, I'm just like struggling for words on this one,
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  which, you know, is very rare for me, by the way.
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  I told you, Jess was downstairs when I came up, and I'm like,
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  just, just pray for me on this one.
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  Because again, I don't, I do not want to sound like I'm coming from one side
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  or the other, but I do want to give you just like the reality of it all,
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  which is a lot. It's a lot of words.
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  Like there are a lot of pieces to this puzzle. Okay.
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  And so I'm just going to, here we go. Okay.
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  The, the, the one of the reasons that I have been uncertain for speaking out
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  on, on GLP-1 is this drug is being used by the masses.
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  Okay. And I personally do not believe it's meant for the masses.
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  Okay, I do not believe GLP-1 is meant for the masses. Okay, because again,
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  there are risks, there are side effects, there are things, right?
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  And so, and I'm going to get more specific on those on the next episode,
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  but it's used by the masses. And this tells me it's used by people that probably
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  aren't, some people, right?
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  Not all people, obviously, but some people that probably aren't necessarily
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  like needing a medicine for their weight loss and that that choice is made out of desperation.
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  Okay. And so I feel like my platform is like my heart and soul.
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  Like I feel the things I say here so passionately and so deeply.
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  And so if I'm going to be honest, I have taken it for some people specifically,
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  I have taken it personally when they resort to like a weight loss drug out of
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  desperation in lieu of putting in the work that they could easily put in.
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  Okay. And so again, I am not talking to the people that have the food addiction
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  and the trauma and all the things I just talked about, right?
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  Like those are not the people I'm talking to right now because that's an illness.
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  Like those people have obesity or, you know, like extreme overweight and they
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  like it may be linked to an illness. Right.
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  I'm talking about the people that.
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  Have more of a hang up, I would say, with commitment, with consistency.
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  They set big goals and never like even try to be consistent or try to like step out on them.
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  Like people who like are self-sabotaging.
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  I take it personally. Like I'm offended because I want those people to put forth
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  their best effort for themselves.
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  I want those people to show themselves. Like, golly, if I just show up for myself,
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  I can make a change, right?
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  And I can be proud of that change, okay?
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  And so I get mad at them.
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  I want them to just like, you know, instead of talking about it and thinking
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  about it, I want them to just like do it and see what happens,
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  right? Get out of their head, you know what I mean?
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  Because I know that reward of consistency and sticking to something.
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  And so when you make a desperate decision, you know, it pisses me off, honestly, honestly.
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  And it's out of like, I want immediate results. And like, they're hoping that
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  like a GLP-1 is the answer, okay?
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  And so you know, it's a desperate decision if you're just like,
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  I want this now. And I just, I want to lose weight because I want to feel better.
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  And like, that's that, right? You're not thinking about the rest of your life
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  as far as like, how am I gonna make lifestyle changes for the rest of my life?
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  How am I going to keep this off after I finish the GLP one? Like,
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  you're not thinking about any of that.
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  You're just thinking like, my pants are too tight and I'm sick of it. You know what I mean?
• 23:24
  And so again, I'm really trying to like.
• 23:28
  Make sure my words are correct here, because I don't, I feel like there are
• 23:31
  people that need it, you know, and it's a prayed over, it's a,
• 23:35
  it's a long thought out decision,
• 23:38
  you know, and again, that's not really who I am, and it's a decision made out
• 23:42
  of like, I know what I need to do, I have tried, you know, and I can honestly,
• 23:49
  from my depths, right, say that I've put my best effort forward.
• 23:54
  But there is something like, there is a disconnect, like their food has a hold
• 24:01
  on me, you know, like, that's not who I'm talking to.
• 24:05
  I'm talking to the ones who maybe like, lived their best life over Christmas,
• 24:09
  and like ate all the cookies and like didn't work out and like,
• 24:14
  really doesn't care, you know, didn't care, you know, to think about it.
• 24:17
  And then like, they try for two weeks, and they're like, Oh,
• 24:20
  I'm never gonna lose weight. You know, let me just go to my doctor.
• 24:23
  Like that, that, you know, that desperate decision.
• 24:26
  Okay. And so, and that leads me to my second, my second reason for uncertainty.
• 24:30
  And they're really kind of, kind of connected, which is the shame around it.
• 24:36
  Okay. Like people have acted so shameful about taking it.
• 24:40
  Like it's this hush, hush secret, you know, it's, it's, you know,
• 24:44
  not, not all people, right.
• 24:46
  But, but some people just like, they don't want to own up to the fact that,
• 24:51
  that maybe they needed, you know, some help.
• 24:53
  And again, you don't have to put that on your Facebook post.
• 24:55
  You don't have to shout that from the rooftops.
• 24:57
  But like I have noticed in people that there's just this level of shame that again,
• 25:02
  we as a society have probably created right around this topic because there
• 25:07
  are so many people making that desperate decision like I just talked about and
• 25:13
  then like getting off of it and regaining the weight.
• 25:15
  And it's just kind of like it's made people feel like they're cheating in a way.
• 25:20
  And so there's a shame around it. Right. And so I have felt really uncertain
• 25:25
  about speaking out on it because, you know, I don't know.
• 25:29
  I don't want to bring the shame to light. I don't I don't you know,
• 25:31
  I just don't want to press that shame button, you know, because I hate that.
• 25:35
  I hate the idea of shame and weight loss. And it is, there is so much of it,
• 25:40
  regardless of whether you're on GLP-L1 or whatever else, you know?
• 25:42
  And so I'm going to, I'm going to like kind of talk about this later on.
• 25:46
  I'm going to expand on this towards the end, both of these things.
• 25:51
  But another reason that have just been, you know, uncertain is because it's so new, you know?
• 25:56
  And I kind of explained this at the beginning, like we honestly still don't
• 25:59
  know the long term effects, right? And it's the first of its kind.
• 26:03
  And there have been drugs that have hit the market, y'all. And we don't know
• 26:06
  the effects of them until years later.
• 26:08
  But then there have been drugs that have hit the market. And years later,
• 26:12
  like the quality of life of people has vastly improved.
• 26:15
  And we look back and we're like, how have we met? Like, what did we do before this drug?
• 26:21
  You know, like, and so it's like, we aren't there yet. Like,
• 26:25
  I don't know. You know, I'm not there.
• 26:27
  I'm not, you know, no one honestly knows fully yet. like what we will be saying
• 26:34
  about GLP-1s 20 years from now?
• 26:36
  Will we be saying like it changed the health of, you know, the world?
• 26:43
  Or will we be saying something different? Like we don't know.
• 26:47
  And so again, that's why I can't just be like 100% one way or the other, right?
• 26:51
  And so again, like I mentioned at the beginning, like I've heard,
• 26:54
  you know, just some life-altering stories, right positively and negatively
• 26:58
  and so I can't fully support something that
• 27:02
  could be risky could be very
• 27:05
  extreme right but also those benefits when
• 27:09
  you're using it correctly and when you're a candidate that is
• 27:12
  confidently saying like I need this for my well-being right it's been life-changing
• 27:16
  and so again like I'm just again it's so new I'm straddling that fence right
• 27:19
  but another reason like my next reason for uncertainty is just like putting
• 27:25
  more things in our body. You know what I mean?
• 27:29
  And again, I am thankful for that.
• 27:35
  Medicine. I am thankful for like our food system.
• 27:40
  You know what I mean? Like, golly, aren't we all thankful 200?
• 27:42
  We didn't live 200 years ago where we had to like go get our own grain and turn it into bread.
• 27:46
  You know what I mean? Like, aren't we all thankful, right?
• 27:49
  But I am not dense enough to say that all things like that we have available
• 27:58
  to us are for good, Right.
• 28:01
  Cocaine, you know, unlimited alcohol, like, you know, we now know nicotine,
• 28:06
  like all these things like just because they were created for us doesn't make
• 28:11
  them, you know, something we we need to be putting in our body.
• 28:16
  And so I am me personally, you know, I'm of the mindset of, no,
• 28:21
  we're not going to be able to just completely eliminate, you know,
• 28:24
  any kind of man-made or, you know, unharmful substances.
• 28:29
  We're not going to be able to eliminate that from our use.
• 28:34
  But like less is better, right?
• 28:37
  Obviously, we can all agree to that, right? Like less is better.
• 28:39
  Like, again, we know that if we, you know, take a bunch of medicine,
• 28:45
  eat a bunch of processed food, you know, do, you know.
• 28:50
  Drink alcohol every day, smoke, like, all the things, we know that that's not
• 28:53
  great for our body, right?
• 28:54
  And so I personally just hate the thought of putting more junk in our body that,
• 28:59
  like, we're not 100% certain about, okay?
• 29:02
  And so you hear me talk about it all the time with food, and the truth is still
• 29:08
  with food, right? Like, we don't know, like, what are our GMOs?
• 29:12
  Are they, what are they going to do to us long-term? Are, you know,
• 29:15
  alternative sweeteners, what are they going to do to us long-term?
• 29:18
  You know, just all these food dyes, like, that's a hot button topic right now.
• 29:21
  Like, what are they going to do to us long-term?
• 29:23
  Like, we don't know, you know what I mean? And we may never know,
• 29:25
  right? And so my perspective for me, like, me personally, this is not me telling
• 29:30
  you to be this way, but for me personally, I'm like, you know what?
• 29:33
  I just want to keep it as natural as I can, okay? And so, again,
• 29:40
  with that being said, though, we know we are going to have to,
• 29:43
  in our lifetime, probably take medicines for some things.
• 29:47
  We are going to consume, you know...
• 29:50
  Food dies, you know, like, there are things that we are just going to do, right?
• 29:54
  And so it's about that discernment of what's worth it and what's not,
• 29:59
  you know, and that's the, like, anthem of our ladies in our program,
• 30:02
  like, what's worth it and what's not, you know?
• 30:05
  And so, like, yeah, like, we're gonna have to be put on medications.
• 30:08
  And so it's like, if you get diagnosed with heart disease, and they say,
• 30:12
  here's a medication, yeah, we're gonna take it, like, that's worth it, right?
• 30:15
  If you have cancer, like, and they offer chemo, yeah, like, we're probably gonna
• 30:19
  take it, and that's worth it, right?
• 30:20
  Autoimmune disease so that you can function every day. Here's some medicine.
• 30:23
  Yeah, for sure. Worth it.
• 30:25
  But the question is like, here's a medicine for weight loss.
• 30:27
  Again, that comes with risks, just like the other medicines that I just mentioned.
• 30:32
  Is that risk worth it to you?
• 30:35
  Is that additional medication worth it to you?
• 30:39
  Okay. And your individual struggles, right? And so again, back to the people
• 30:43
  with the food addiction and all that, I would say the answer is yes.
• 30:46
  But if you are like seeking it just to, you know, get into your swimsuit or,
• 30:51
  you know, just to get ready for a wedding or whatever it is,
• 30:55
  then, you know, again, that's again, your decision.
• 30:57
  But this is just the stance that I have is that each person has to make their
• 31:01
  own choice on whether it's worth it.
• 31:04
  And I have been afraid that my voice on it would sway people one way or the other.
• 31:07
  Like the last thing I want is for anyone to leave this podcast and be like,
• 31:11
  well, Constance says I shouldn't, even though like I've prayed about it and
• 31:14
  I feel confident that I should.
• 31:16
  You know what I mean? And so again, that is like an individual decision,
• 31:19
  but it is one that we have to be aware, like we have to be in our body.
• 31:24
  We have to be aware and conscious of the decisions that we're making.
• 31:28
  Y'all, if I was going to go out and, you know, smoke a cigarette,
• 31:32
  like I have to be aware of like that decision.
• 31:35
  Okay, this may cause me some lung issues down the line, you know,
• 31:39
  and it's the same. If I'm going to, you know, go out and...
• 31:45
  I don't know, eat a cheeseburger and fries, you know, multiple times a day,
• 31:49
  every day for the rest of my life. Like I have to be aware I might clog up some arteries, you know?
• 31:53
  And so it's just, it's just that like being at peace with, is it,
• 31:58
  is it worth it for me to do this, you know?
• 32:02
  And then last, this is, this is where I'm going to really just kind of drive
• 32:05
  it home here, which is the real problem.
• 32:08
  Okay. This is like the real problem. This is one that I have just really wrestled
• 32:13
  with. And even just looking at my notes right here, I wrote and I rewrote these.
• 32:17
  I was supposed to, I mean, I was supposed to record this a couple of days ago.
• 32:21
  And I just like I needed to be settled with with this explanation.
• 32:26
  And I still don't know if I am. But here we go.
• 32:29
  The real problem, y'all, is that, you know, medical science is showing us that
• 32:34
  obesity is a disease. Right. We've discussed that at this point.
• 32:37
  It's a disease just the same way that like heart disease, diabetes or an autoimmune disorder is. Right.
• 32:45
  But with the other diseases, with all the other diseases, right,
• 32:49
  we as the human cannot say, like, if it's heart disease, I don't feel like making
• 32:54
  my heart beat properly on its own.
• 32:56
  You know, I don't feel like doing that today. So I'm just going to take some
• 32:59
  blood pressure medicine or, you know, or, you know, any other heart-related medicine.
• 33:03
  Like, I just, I don't feel like it. So I'm going to, I'm going to take some meds today.
• 33:08
  Or I don't feel like, you know, making my pancreas work. So I'm just going to take some insulin.
• 33:14
  For other issues like this, we cannot say that. And obesity is really like one
• 33:18
  of the first, or this weight loss drug is really one of the first things that we can kind of say.
• 33:24
  Like, not to say cheat the system, but some can choose to cheat the system,
• 33:29
  right? And say, like, I just don't really feel like...
• 33:33
  Working on my health habits. Like, I don't, I don't feel like drinking water.
• 33:37
  I don't like water. You know, I don't, I don't feel like tracking my food.
• 33:40
  I don't, I don't have time for that.
• 33:42
  I don't, you know, I don't feel like taking a walk. I just want to sit here
• 33:45
  on the couch and scroll my phone.
• 33:46
  Like we as a people can say that.
• 33:50
  And then now we as a people can also easily go to our doctor or find another
• 33:55
  back route way of saying like, I would like to take some medicine for that, okay?
• 34:02
  Or we can say, like, we can use our unhealthy relationship.
• 34:05
  Like, we've had an unhealthy relationship with our body for our whole lives,
• 34:09
  you know, maybe a body dysmorphia thing or whatever, and we can use that as
• 34:13
  our excuse to think, this is going to solve all my problems, okay?
• 34:17
  And so, I really pray that this is coming across in the way that I want it to,
• 34:22
  that like that perspective is
• 34:26
  very different than someone who is
• 34:29
  actually like obesity is an illness right
• 34:33
  they're they're they have legit trauma around food right or they literally are
• 34:41
  are so bad off health-wise that they need this medication you know what i'm
• 34:47
  saying like it's I don't know if it's a South thing.
• 34:52
  I don't know. But like, there are just so, so, so many women out there who are
• 34:58
  choosing this route of GLP-1 instead of doing what they know to do, you know?
• 35:04
  And so to me, that's the problem. And let me tell you like why,
• 35:08
  why it's the problem, okay? Because.
• 35:13
  Like, first of all, that's not what the drug is intended for, right?
• 35:17
  Like, and many people know this deep down, like that they're,
• 35:19
  that maybe this drug isn't what was intended for them.
• 35:22
  But again, they're making that decision out of desperation, which is why it
• 35:26
  turns out to be just yet another quick fix, right?
• 35:28
  Like, if you are not, like, again, if you're like, let me just pop the,
• 35:32
  this cholesterol medication, you know, even though I don't have cholesterol
• 35:36
  problems, like, you're not all in on, you know, changing that lifestyle habit, right?
• 35:41
  And so it's the same thing, like
• 35:42
  if you kind of deep down know you're just using this to like whatever,
• 35:45
  like those specific people that are using it for the quick result or for,
• 35:50
  you know, whatever, they're the ones that are putting a stigma on the drug and
• 35:57
  the purpose that it was put here for, which.
• 36:01
  Separates the people who actually need it.
• 36:03
  Those people who actually need it are also lumped into the people that feel
• 36:07
  shameful or feel like they need to just, you know, buckle it up and eat better
• 36:12
  and exercise like that, you know, these people that truly have this obesity illness,
• 36:17
  right, are lumped into all these other people that are just kind of doing it
• 36:21
  out of a quick fix, out of a desperation, out of a, you know, whatever.
• 36:24
  And so it's why it's viewed the way it's viewed in the world.
• 36:30
  You know what I mean? Like it's and I'm going to use this here,
• 36:33
  you know, in a minute, but like, it's like, if we just said,
• 36:40
  you know, oh, I'm going to go get a Xanax prescription so I can numb out,
• 36:43
  you know, if that's what everybody was trying to do,
• 36:47
  then like, wouldn't we disrespect the Xanax user who really needs it, right?
• 36:53
  Like, it would lower the, it's the same as like Adderall, right?
• 36:59
  Like, okay, when I was in college and stuff, everybody was going to get diagnosed
• 37:02
  with, you know, ADHD because it helped them.
• 37:06
  Study and it helped them, you know, do better in school or whatever.
• 37:09
  And so then it's like, well, who really has it and who doesn't?
• 37:13
  And so it's just kind of like you're on Adderall. Okay.
• 37:15
  Can I buy some from, you know, like
• 37:17
  it changes the magnitude of it and the perspective of it as a culture.
• 37:27
  And so I just feel like this is the real problem with it because some people
• 37:34
  on it know that they could have actually done the health work, right?
• 37:38
  But they chose to go an easier route.
• 37:41
  And this leaves the ones who actually need to be on it feeling that shame, right?
• 37:45
  That they should not really have to feel because they need this medication, right?
• 37:50
  And then also, you know, GLP-1s are designed to be an aid for an overall health
• 37:55
  improvement lifestyle.
• 37:56
  Okay, so I've been very honest here about my journey with anxiety, right?
• 38:02
  And this is very much the same thing, right? Like we are so thankful that God
• 38:05
  gave us medicine to help with the disease.
• 38:07
  Like so thankful that God gave us medicine to help with anxiety and all the things, right?
• 38:12
  But let's say someone was prescribed like maybe Xanax as needed,
• 38:18
  okay? They have anxiety.
• 38:20
  They were prescribed Xanax as needed, okay?
• 38:23
  Here's your Xanax prescription, okay? But these are the other things that we need to be doing,
• 38:29
  right, to maximize your quality of life, you know, so that you aren't having
• 38:36
  to pop a Xanax every, you know, couple hours or, you know, you're not having
• 38:39
  to rely on this medication, right?
• 38:41
  So it's adjusting your lifestyle, okay?
• 38:46
  Adjusting your anxiety triggering factors, okay?
• 38:50
  Doing things like going to see a therapist, doing the self-work,
• 38:54
  incorporating exercise so that you have those feel-good hormones.
• 38:58
  Like learning how to manage your emotions differently, creating boundaries with
• 39:03
  the things that trigger her or me or whoever.
• 39:06
  You know what I mean? Like there's all this other work that goes along with
• 39:09
  it because the overall goal, right, is to improve your mental health, to lower your anxiety.
• 39:16
  But also here's this anxiety prescription to help you as you need it, right?
• 39:21
  Right and so this is
• 39:25
  like it's the same thing with GLP-1 like we should not be using it as just like
• 39:29
  I'm going to take this pill and then still you know go to the Italian restaurant
• 39:32
  and order the fatty foods that I always order right like we're taking it and
• 39:35
  hoping that like it helps aid us in our health changes in in our decisions right
• 39:40
  and so it's the same like thinking about sleeping issues right if somebody had.
• 39:45
  A hard time falling asleep, okay? And they had a hard time staying asleep.
• 39:49
  You may go to your doctor and your doctor may give you Ambien,
• 39:52
  you know, life-changing drug for a lot of people who struggle with sleep, right?
• 39:56
  But say this person brings her Ambien home, takes it, and then she still stays
• 40:01
  up scrolling her phone, okay?
• 40:03
  Say she's drinking a cup of caffeinated coffee while she's scrolling her phone
• 40:08
  at 10 o'clock at night, right?
• 40:09
  And say she's trying to sleep with the light on, right? Like she is doing nothing
• 40:15
  to help aid this Ambien for what it is.
• 40:18
  Like it's trying to help her sleep, but she's working against it.
• 40:22
  She's not doing things to help her body learn like, hey, this is how we shut
• 40:26
  down. This is how we go to sleep.
• 40:28
  This is how we put the freaking phone down. You know what I mean?
• 40:31
  She is not using the drug properly.
• 40:34
  Okay, the drug is designed for you, like GLP-1 is designed to help you create
• 40:40
  a healthier lifestyle presently and for the long haul, right?
• 40:44
  And so the hope is, is that you don't have to be on it forever,
• 40:47
  right? Because you're also putting in these healthy practices.
• 40:50
  You're retraining your brain and how it thinks about food. You're seeing that
• 40:53
  therapist if you need to be seeing that therapist, right?
• 40:56
  You are choosing, because again, you have the medical help right now to make
• 41:03
  the choice easier to make healthy decisions at the restaurant or at home or whatever, okay?
• 41:10
  You are exercising to support this medicine in doing what it needs to do for you, right?
• 41:16
  And so this is just where, like, this for me is the biggest, the biggest problem.
• 41:21
  And this is why we are seeing two-thirds of people regain the weight after they're
• 41:25
  off of it, because they are treating it as more of a Band-Aid than what it is
• 41:30
  designed to do, you know?
• 41:32
  And again, if you are listening to this podcast and you are one of those people
• 41:34
  who, you know, did not treat it as a Band-Aid and you are rocking it,
• 41:39
  you have taken the medicine, you have kept it off, you're continuing to lose
• 41:42
  like all the things like that is incredible. And like, I am so proud of you.
• 41:46
  And I pray that you do not feel any shame or any like whatever after this podcast,
• 41:52
  because I am not talking to you. You know, I am not talking to you.
• 41:56
  I am talking to the ones who, again, like they have sought every quick fix, right?
• 42:01
  All the way from back. I talk about my special K diet days in high school.
• 42:06
  You know, add a, what is it? Add, what is it?
• 42:09
  Dang it, what is it? I can't remember the name of it right now,
• 42:12
  but like SlimFast, you know, maybe another medication like the fat burners from GNC, the skinny drops.
• 42:19
  Like if you have done every single one of those and then the shot was just your
• 42:22
  next step in like that, again, that desperation decision, then maybe I am talking
• 42:28
  to you. You know what I mean?
• 42:30
  And so I think, again, the reason two-thirds of people regain the weight is
• 42:35
  because two-thirds of people probably didn't take it seriously for the lifestyle change, right?
• 42:40
  For the healthy habits change. Like we can do and try every single thing on
• 42:46
  this planet for weight loss. But if we don't adopt it as like a forever change, right?
• 42:52
  Which is why around here we talk about, you know, like not doing extreme,
• 42:57
  you know, cutting things out or over-exercising plans or like whatever,
• 43:02
  because like that's not something you can adopt as a lifestyle, right?
• 43:05
  It's got to be these baby steps so that it doesn't feel so harsh and so hard.
• 43:10
  And, you know, but so if you cannot take up a lifestyle change,
• 43:15
  alongside the medicine, I mean, the likelihood of you getting in and back is,
• 43:21
  you know, people are not, you know, I am not 38 years old and still, you know.
• 43:27
  The same way I was, you know, when I was 20 by accident, right?
• 43:32
  Like it is a lifestyle change.
• 43:34
  Do I go have a glass of wine sometimes? Yes.
• 43:37
  Do we eat out and I eat delicious things? Yes. Do I skip my exercise some days?
• 43:41
  Yes. But it is a whole lifestyle approach where most of the time.
• 43:47
  I am taking care of my body in the ways that I know to take care of it, okay?
• 43:51
  And so this is just where I have seen the struggle.
• 43:54
  And it's unfortunate, right? Because the focus is now on this drug.
• 43:59
  The focus is like, well, I need to lose some weight. So I'm going to talk to
• 44:01
  my doctor and see about it, you know?
• 44:03
  Whereas the focus should be on the people that are truly needing it and then
• 44:07
  how to come alongside them in a system in the best way possible,
• 44:10
  you know, so that they are making those lifestyle changes, right?
• 44:15
  So, yeah. episode one, y'all. And again, I hope this was helpful.
• 44:20
  I hope, again, I hope it was received the way that I intend for it to be,
• 44:24
  because it's like, you may not have liked all of what you heard,
• 44:29
  but like, it is the honest truth.
• 44:31
  And again, am I labeling you as that person? No, ma'am.
• 44:34
  No, ma'am. You know, but for the masses, you know, it is, it is pretty dang
• 44:39
  relevant and it's pretty true.
• 44:40
  And it is, I think it, I hope, I hope for a lot of my ladies who,
• 44:44
  you know, have found some frustration and the fact that everyone around them
• 44:48
  is, is, seems to be taking a GLP one.
• 44:50
  And, you know, most days they're able to like stick to their guns and try their,
• 44:54
  try to do their lifestyle things.
• 44:56
  You know, like, I hope if anything, this allowed you to exhale a little bit
• 44:59
  to say like, okay, I know what to be true for me, you know, and I,
• 45:03
  and I know like where, where I stand on, on all the things that,
• 45:06
  you know, I've talked about.
• 45:07
  And then of course, more things that I'll talk about on the next episode.
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  And so like, I hope it gives you the confidence to like continue walking in that way.
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  And then the ones who are on it that truly needed to be on it and like,
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  If you're a client of mine and you reached out to me and y'all, I got a lot of clients.
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  I got 400 of y'all, you know, but if you'd been around long enough,
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  I could almost, I could almost like Stacey or I could say like,
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  yes, she's a candidate or no, she's not. You know what I mean?
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  Like that is because of patterns we have noticed. Like it's little things that
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  we just recognize in our people.
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  And sometimes it is more than just not being able to stick to their habits or
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  not wanting to track their feelings. Sometimes it's deeper rooted. You know what I mean?
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  And so if you're one of those people, you know, I hope you heard this and in
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  that light that maybe it's time to take some action.
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  You know what I mean? And see somebody or get the help you need.
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  And so I do want to encourage you guys to come back because the next episode
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  next week will be on whether GLP ones are right for you.
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  Okay, so I'm going to just really kind of break down like the rewards,
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  the risks, and then also discerning whether or not you feel like you are one
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  that should take it. You know what I mean?
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  And then the third part will be about what you need to do regardless, right?
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  Like how to be successful, obviously without GLP-1, but we talk about that all the time here, right?
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  Like this is basically a podcast of how to be successful without GLP-1.
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  And so it's really about what has to happen with GLP-1 if you are going to be successful.
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  So anywho, as always, guys, I hope you enjoyed this.
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  And please, please, please, especially today, remember to.
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  Music.