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- 0:01Speaker 1: In the mid nineties, a decade of disturbing homicides would
- 0:05Speaker 1: begin in the city of Baton Rouge.
- 0:08Speaker 2: Every time that we heard of the corner being called out,
- 0:11Speaker 2: it was a here we go again scenario.
- 0:14Speaker 1: As the macabre discoveries accumulated, citizens were left scared to
- 0:18Speaker 1: walk the streets.
- 0:20Speaker 3: No one was safe, and Baton Rouge became paralyzed with fear.
- 0:24Speaker 1: The hunt was on for a predator with a twisted
- 0:27Speaker 1: desire for a grotesque brand of bloodshed.
- 0:31Speaker 4: Both of her hands had been severed and removed at
- 0:33Speaker 4: the wrist.
- 0:34Speaker 1: But what was driving the mind of this most unlikely monster?
- 0:38Speaker 5: They said, don't you know you're living with a serial killer?
- 0:42Speaker 1: And was he born to kill mamma? Louisiana is a
- 1:18Speaker 1: state celebrated for its southern hospitality, and the city of
- 1:23Speaker 1: Baton Rouge is certainly no exception.
- 1:27Speaker 2: Down here. You walk past somebody that you've never seen
- 1:30Speaker 2: your life, and you'll say, hey, how you doing, how's
- 1:32Speaker 2: it going. That's kind of out the way that we
- 1:35Speaker 2: are in the South.
- 1:39Speaker 1: However, a warm welcome does not await in every part
- 1:42Speaker 1: of town.
- 1:45Speaker 3: The difference between North Baton Rouge and downtown and South
- 1:50Speaker 3: Baton Rouge are night and day.
- 1:53Speaker 2: North Baton Rouge at that time and even now is
- 1:57Speaker 2: a very dangerous place.
- 2:01Speaker 3: Women who live high risk lifestyles walk up and down
- 2:04Speaker 3: the streets freely. Drugs flow rampantly throughout that whole area,
- 2:10Speaker 3: and murder is a common occurrence.
- 2:18Speaker 1: One such woman was local mother of two, Donna Bennett Johnston.
- 2:24Speaker 6: She was addicted to crack for the most part, wasn't
- 2:28Speaker 6: really anything else that kept her out. That was the
- 2:31Speaker 6: thing that kept her on the streets, looking for the
- 2:34Speaker 6: next high and everything. She was a mother still, you know,
- 2:40Speaker 6: she just had a problem. To me, she was just
- 2:44Speaker 6: you know, great person, great woman. Like everything that she did,
- 2:49Speaker 6: she just gave all her heart and soul to it.
- 2:52Speaker 6: You know, she's one of them people that love deeply.
- 2:55Speaker 7: You know.
- 2:55Speaker 6: I'd remember calling me in the evening times, just out
- 2:59Speaker 6: of the blue, just to say I love you.
- 3:04Speaker 1: Justin had become accustomed to his mother's disappearances.
- 3:10Speaker 6: Some days she would just pop out and leave and
- 3:12Speaker 6: would wake up next morning she'd be gone. But all
- 3:16Speaker 6: in all, we just you know, kept faith that she
- 3:19Speaker 6: would be all right and one day she would, you know,
- 3:21Speaker 6: get better.
- 3:29Speaker 1: But in two thousand and four, a chilling discovery was made.
- 3:34Speaker 8: Two residents were out looking for their lost dog on
- 3:37Speaker 8: ben Hur Road between Nicholson and Burbank this morning when
- 3:39Speaker 8: they spotted what looked like the body of a woman
- 3:42Speaker 8: lying in the drainage ditch on the south side of
- 3:44Speaker 8: the bridge. Cause of death strangulation.
- 3:49Speaker 6: Well, I was I think it was a Friday, me
- 3:53Speaker 6: and my little brother. It was about probably about two o'clock.
- 3:56Speaker 6: We had just got to the basketball jump. We were
- 4:02Speaker 6: in the middle of a game playing and I hear
- 4:05Speaker 6: my phone ring. It was my father's ring tongue, and
- 4:13Speaker 6: I knew something was wrong. That's when he told me
- 4:17Speaker 6: they found your mama dead this morning. All the sound
- 4:23Speaker 6: in the room disappeared. There's nothing that compares to hearing
- 4:32Speaker 6: those words.
- 4:40Speaker 1: Detective Todd Morris was cool to the disturbing scene.
- 4:48Speaker 4: She was recovered here, faced down, displayed on the side
- 4:51Speaker 4: of the canal bank. There was a jacket covering her
- 4:56Speaker 4: right arm, and upon removing that, it was discovered then
- 4:59Speaker 4: that the suspect had severed and taken her arm from
- 5:04Speaker 4: the elbow down, which was not located here at the
- 5:07Speaker 4: crime scene. There was also on her right by a
- 5:14Speaker 4: approximately three by three inch square area that had been
- 5:17Speaker 4: removed and had been taken by the suspect.
- 5:22Speaker 1: Investigators believed the victim to be the latest work of
- 5:25Speaker 1: a serial killer who was snatching women from the streets
- 5:28Speaker 1: of North Baton Rouge.
- 5:31Speaker 4: So a city's worst nightmare is an investigator's worst nightmare
- 5:34Speaker 4: to know that you have a person that's going around
- 5:36Speaker 4: doing these type of horrendous acts to innocent female victims
- 5:40Speaker 4: and what he's capable of. This sick individual is praying
- 5:45Speaker 4: in our community, praying on innocent females. So you're thinking, Okay,
- 5:48Speaker 4: when's the next victim.
- 5:49Speaker 5: Going to happen?
- 5:50Speaker 1: Yet few would have dared imagine that this sadistic murderer
- 5:54Speaker 1: had been claiming victims for a decade. In two thousand
- 6:05Speaker 1: and four, the Louisiana city of Baton Rouge was overwhelmed
- 6:10Speaker 1: by a succession of sadistic murders. Yet this most unusual
- 6:15Speaker 1: story had begun ten years prior, in seemingly insignificant circumstances.
- 6:24Speaker 1: In March of nineteen ninety four, Terry Lemoyne, a Baton
- 6:28Speaker 1: Rouge native, would be introduced to a man who would
- 6:31Speaker 1: change her life.
- 6:33Speaker 5: I was a manager at a convenience store and I
- 6:37Speaker 5: liked working the night shift. One of my best friends
- 6:41Speaker 5: comes in one night and tells me, I've met this
- 6:45Speaker 5: person that you just have to meet, and she introduced
- 6:48Speaker 5: me to Jehan. The feeling I got from him was
- 6:56Speaker 5: more like a nerdy little guy and safe, because he
- 7:03Speaker 5: just had the look of someone who had just walked
- 7:05Speaker 5: off of a college campus, you know, somebody who would
- 7:11Speaker 5: be playing with the neighbor's kids. After my first meeting
- 7:21Speaker 5: with Sean, he seemed like somebody I wouldn't mind seeing again.
- 7:29Speaker 5: Then he started meeting me at my house and it
- 7:34Speaker 5: went on from there.
- 7:38Speaker 1: As the pair's relationship progressed, Terry and Sean began to
- 7:42Speaker 1: learn more about one another.
- 7:45Speaker 5: He lived in a very nice house. Mostly things were
- 7:48Speaker 5: all over the place. You know, dishes were not washed,
- 7:51Speaker 5: and you know, things were here and there. Nothing was
- 7:55Speaker 5: in its place. So to say, we were getting along
- 8:01Speaker 5: so well together that there was just only one more
- 8:05Speaker 5: test that he had to pass as far as I
- 8:07Speaker 5: was concerned, and that was was he safe enough to
- 8:13Speaker 5: live the rest of my life with. I started a
- 8:18Speaker 5: fight one night and slapped him on purpose to see
- 8:23Speaker 5: what his reaction would be, and he stomped his foot
- 8:27Speaker 5: and said boys aren't supposed to hit girls, and girls
- 8:29Speaker 5: aren't supposed to hit boys. That's just the way it's
- 8:32Speaker 5: supposed to be, and so I figured I'm safe.
- 8:38Speaker 1: However, Terry had not learned everything there was to know
- 8:41Speaker 1: about Sean. Located just across the street from the convenience
- 8:46Speaker 1: store was Saint James's Place, a retirement home for the elderly.
- 8:52Speaker 1: One of the residents was eighty two year old and Brian.
- 8:59Speaker 3: She was a sweet, sweet lady. She had a loving family.
- 9:04Speaker 3: She had spent her life being respected by those who
- 9:08Speaker 3: knew her.
- 9:10Speaker 1: On the evening of the twentieth of March, Anne was
- 9:13Speaker 1: due to be visited by her nurse for a regular checkup.
- 9:17Speaker 3: The exterior door that led to her apartment had been
- 9:22Speaker 3: left unlocked, and Anne had left her door slightly ajar
- 9:28Speaker 3: so that the nurses could give her her medication.
- 9:32Speaker 1: Upon arriving at Anne's room in the early hours of
- 9:35Speaker 1: the next morning, the nurses were to encounter an atrocious scene.
- 9:41Speaker 3: Her body was discovered the next morning by some workers
- 9:45Speaker 3: at the retirement home. This was an eighty two year
- 9:49Speaker 3: old woman who had been brutally, brutally attacked, and the
- 9:54Speaker 3: things that had been done to her were unbelievable.
- 10:02Speaker 2: Police had no clue as to what a motive would
- 10:06Speaker 2: be or why anybody would want her dead. It was
- 10:08Speaker 2: a mystery at that time, even for a seasoned police
- 10:15Speaker 2: officer to see a crime of that sort of violence
- 10:18Speaker 2: in that heinous You could look at those guys and
- 10:21Speaker 2: know something really bad happened here.
- 10:24Speaker 3: Just the thought of who would do something like this
- 10:26Speaker 3: to a woman like Anne Bryan had police mystified.
- 10:37Speaker 1: Terry LeMoyne's new love interest, Sean Vincent Gillis, was a
- 10:41Speaker 1: man with a troubling family history. His difficulties began with
- 10:47Speaker 1: a traumatic incident involving his father, Norman and his mother, Yvonne.
- 10:52Speaker 3: Norman got drunk and Yvonne came into the house and
- 10:57Speaker 3: Norman had a gun to her young son's head and
- 11:00Speaker 3: threatened to kill Yvan and to kill Sean. Norman was
- 11:07Speaker 3: taken away from the family and put into a mental institution.
- 11:12Speaker 9: Sean's father was a troubled man. He certainly drank a lot,
- 11:16Speaker 9: He experimented with some medication and stuff, and had created
- 11:21Speaker 9: a lot of difficulties in his life.
- 11:26Speaker 1: At high school, the young Sean would be mentored by
- 11:29Speaker 1: his teacher Robert Bumm.
- 11:34Speaker 10: I started here in the seventies and I taught here
- 11:37Speaker 10: for thirty years. I met Sean, basically liked him. He
- 11:44Speaker 10: wasn't super popular. He probably was a fringe kid a
- 11:48Speaker 10: little bit because he didn't play sports and wasn't elected
- 11:52Speaker 10: to any offices. But he was a good kid to
- 11:55Speaker 10: have in class because he did his work and didn't
- 11:57Speaker 10: cause in trouble at all.
- 11:58Speaker 1: Never despite outward appearances, Robert believed that Sean was far
- 12:06Speaker 1: from a happy child.
- 12:09Speaker 10: Most of the kids who went to that school their
- 12:11Speaker 10: parents showed up for everything, and his parents never came.
- 12:17Speaker 10: He absolutely had to take care of himself because I
- 12:19Speaker 10: don't remember never have anybody at home that he mentioned
- 12:23Speaker 10: that was waiting for him. I think you know when
- 12:27Speaker 10: a kid is kind of as a family like he had,
- 12:31Speaker 10: because they brought out a lot of anger and low
- 12:35Speaker 10: self worth. Wasn't he question about it?
- 12:40Speaker 1: In meeting Terry Lemoyne later in his life, Sean had
- 12:44Speaker 1: finally found someone with whom he could share his insecurities.
- 12:49Speaker 9: What they saw in each other was someone who could
- 12:53Speaker 9: provide what they each needed, and so they fit very
- 12:56Speaker 9: perfectly like that.
- 13:00Speaker 1: Yet Sean still had vices that he would try to
- 13:03Speaker 1: hide from.
- 13:04Speaker 11: Terry.
- 13:06Speaker 5: Sean was an avid pornography person. He he I would
- 13:14Speaker 5: catch him now and then. That had a pretty big
- 13:20Speaker 5: impact on our relationship.
- 13:27Speaker 3: The fact that Terry worked at night enabled Sean to
- 13:30Speaker 3: live out his fantasies. She had no idea what he
- 13:34Speaker 3: was doing, and he would spend a lot of nights
- 13:37Speaker 3: out just driving around and looking for women.
- 13:41Speaker 1: One woman walking those very same streets was Catherine Hall.
- 13:48Speaker 2: Catherine Hall had a what we call a high risk
- 13:51Speaker 2: lifestyle and she was known to be involved in prostitution
- 13:55Speaker 2: from time to time.
- 13:57Speaker 3: For women who make their living through sex in North
- 14:02Speaker 3: Baton Rouge, it's a very dangerous occupation. You become an
- 14:06Speaker 3: easy mark for anybody who is looking to harm a woman.
- 14:15Speaker 1: On the night of the fourth of January nineteen ninety nine,
- 14:19Speaker 1: the risks associated with Catherine Hall's lifestyle would prove too
- 14:23Speaker 1: great to overcome.
- 14:26Speaker 12: Miss Hall was found at the end of a dead
- 14:29Speaker 12: end street and she had a severe post mortal mutilation
- 14:32Speaker 12: of her body, and she was placed under a sign
- 14:37Speaker 12: that said dead end.
- 14:40Speaker 3: It was obvious to police that this was an o
- 14:42Speaker 3: typical murder. The number of stab wounds, the viciousness with
- 14:46Speaker 3: which she was attacked all indicated that the person who
- 14:49Speaker 3: had done this was full of rage toward women.
- 14:55Speaker 1: As investigators began working the case, they were deeply troubled
- 14:59Speaker 1: by the same circumstances of Catherine Holl's discovery.
- 15:03Speaker 4: Her body was displayed, you know, in a manner which
- 15:06Speaker 4: to be found. It wasn't discreetly hidden, and she had,
- 15:10Speaker 4: you know, a substantial amount of post mortem cuttings to
- 15:13Speaker 4: her body, as well as ligature marks.
- 15:19Speaker 1: The only evidence authorities were able to recover was found
- 15:23Speaker 1: across town, but offered little encouragement.
- 15:27Speaker 3: The only real clues police hide were her jacket and
- 15:30Speaker 3: her personal items, but there were no fingerprints found. There
- 15:34Speaker 3: were no forensics to indicate at that time who had
- 15:38Speaker 3: killed this woman.
- 15:41Speaker 1: Detectives were well aware that the signs being left by
- 15:44Speaker 1: this killer were ominous.
- 15:49Speaker 12: Crime scene would indicate to me that it would not
- 15:52Speaker 12: be the person's most likely first homicide, and it probably wouldn't.
- 15:56Speaker 5: Be the last.
- 15:59Speaker 1: As authorities began to chase down leads in the Hall case,
- 16:02Speaker 1: they soon found themselves at a dead end.
- 16:07Speaker 4: We really didn't have about many leads at all.
- 16:09Speaker 12: After a Catherine Hall.
- 16:11Speaker 4: We continue to you know to try to follow up
- 16:13Speaker 4: on that information that we had, trying to backtrack her
- 16:17Speaker 4: whereabouts and who she might have come in contact with.
- 16:21Speaker 1: Although the investigation was going nowhere fast, fears that the
- 16:25Speaker 1: killer might soon strike again were munting.
- 16:29Speaker 4: If he is doing these chapter backs now, is he
- 16:32Speaker 4: going to stop or is he going to continue on?
- 16:43Speaker 1: Meanwhile, the cracks that had begun to appear in the
- 16:46Speaker 1: relationship between Terry Lemoyne and Sean Vincent Gillis were beginning
- 16:52Speaker 1: to widen.
- 16:54Speaker 5: He would come home at five in the evening and
- 16:56Speaker 5: I would be just going to sleep to go to
- 17:00Speaker 5: work at eleven at night, because I worked from eleven
- 17:02Speaker 5: to six in the morning, so we didn't see each
- 17:07Speaker 5: other too much. I would go to bed, and there
- 17:12Speaker 5: were times when I would get up and find him
- 17:16Speaker 5: gone and ask where he had been, and he couldn't
- 17:19Speaker 5: give me an answer. Naturally, you think the worst. I'm thinking,
- 17:24Speaker 5: who's the other woman you're going to see?
- 17:28Speaker 1: Sean's behavior would continue to arouse suspicion.
- 17:32Speaker 5: One morning, when he picked me up, there was a
- 17:37Speaker 5: horrible smell in the car, and I asked him what
- 17:41Speaker 5: on earth was that odor? And he told me he
- 17:46Speaker 5: had hit an animal on the way to picking me up,
- 17:51Speaker 5: and there was still blood on the car, and that's
- 17:55Speaker 5: what the bad smell was. So I didn't think twice
- 17:58Speaker 5: about it, and I said, well, please wash the car,
- 18:00Speaker 5: and I got out of the car, came into the
- 18:02Speaker 5: house and went to bed, and he told me he
- 18:05Speaker 5: was leaving to go wash the car, and nothing else
- 18:08Speaker 5: was ever spoken about it.
- 18:11Speaker 1: Sean also began to develop a fascination with computers, exploring
- 18:16Speaker 1: the darkest corners of the Internet.
- 18:19Speaker 5: This is when Internet was just beginning and he was
- 18:25Speaker 5: just mesmerized with a computer.
- 18:29Speaker 3: What got him interested was his obsession with going to
- 18:33Speaker 3: websites that featured the bodies of dead women. He became
- 18:37Speaker 3: obsessed with these bodies. He saw them on a daily basis.
- 18:43Speaker 5: One time he told me, come see these pictures. He said,
- 18:47Speaker 5: this happened in Baton Rouge, and he showed me a
- 18:50Speaker 5: write up about a woman that had been found in
- 18:53Speaker 5: a ditch, and that shocked me so much. I just
- 18:58Speaker 5: told him I don't want to see. Don't want to
- 19:00Speaker 5: see anymore.
- 19:05Speaker 1: Outside of his online interests, Sean kept a small group
- 19:08Speaker 1: of friends with whom he would fall in and out
- 19:11Speaker 1: of touch. One such acquaintance was Johnny May Williams.
- 19:17Speaker 3: He met her in the store where he worked. She
- 19:20Speaker 3: would occasionally come over and clean his house. They got
- 19:24Speaker 3: high together. They enjoyed each other's company. Johnny May was
- 19:29Speaker 3: a very special person. She was known to all as
- 19:32Speaker 3: a great cook. She would do her friends and neighbor's hair.
- 19:37Speaker 3: She was a loved woman.
- 19:39Speaker 1: Johnny May's decision to go out onto the streets of
- 19:42Speaker 1: north Baton Rouge in January of two thousand and three
- 19:46Speaker 1: left her family anxious for her safety. That night, she
- 19:50Speaker 1: did not return home, as a predatory killer continued to
- 19:55Speaker 1: stalk the streets. In the nineteen nineties, a killer had
- 20:07Speaker 1: begun snatching women from the Louisiana capital of Baton Rouge.
- 20:12Speaker 1: In two thousand and three, forty five year old Johnny
- 20:15Speaker 1: May Williams had disappeared from the streets. It will be
- 20:19Speaker 1: nine months before the mystery of her whereabouts was answered.
- 20:27Speaker 4: Our recieve de Fancall, who had another victim in remote
- 20:29Speaker 4: Corporate Parish. This was in October of two thousand and three.
- 20:35Speaker 3: A young boy who was out riding in the woods
- 20:38Speaker 3: near his home and his dog disappeared, so he went
- 20:41Speaker 3: looking for his dog and instead, this young boy found
- 20:45Speaker 3: about it.
- 20:49Speaker 1: Upon examining the body, Detective Morris was confronted by a
- 20:53Speaker 1: morbid revelation.
- 20:57Speaker 4: Her remains were not covered up, she had been there
- 20:59Speaker 4: for some time. There was a jacket one near her
- 21:03Speaker 4: right hand, and once you get up close and start
- 21:06Speaker 4: examining her remains, you can see that both of her
- 21:09Speaker 4: hands had been severed and removed at the wrist.
- 21:15Speaker 1: The apparent similarities to the whole case were ominous.
- 21:20Speaker 4: The manner of death, which we've identified as a strangulation.
- 21:24Speaker 4: Ligature marks were identified and now you're thinking back to you,
- 21:27Speaker 4: Catherine Hall victim where the post mortem cutting, as I
- 21:30Speaker 4: just remember it took place.
- 21:34Speaker 1: The results of the autopsy would identify the body as
- 21:38Speaker 1: that of Johnny may Williams. The thought that they were
- 21:49Speaker 1: dealing with a deeply depraved killer had Todd Morris on edge.
- 21:54Speaker 4: This type of signature raises grave concern for us. And
- 21:57Speaker 4: obviously he is progressing what he may be doing with
- 22:02Speaker 4: the body and taking the body parts with him. So
- 22:07Speaker 4: we knew we had a very unique individual who were
- 22:09Speaker 4: trying to identify.
- 22:17Speaker 1: Sean Vincent Gillis was a man whose life often strayed
- 22:20Speaker 1: beyond the bounds of the ordinary.
- 22:24Speaker 9: Well, he certainly had a very close bond with his mother.
- 22:29Speaker 9: She was a woman who wound up in a very
- 22:32Speaker 9: difficult situation, and she worked very very hard to try
- 22:36Speaker 9: and do everything she could to provide for Sean in
- 22:40Speaker 9: a way that was best for Sean.
- 22:43Speaker 1: In nineteen ninety two, Yvonne Gillis would leave town to
- 22:46Speaker 1: pursue her career, leaving the house to her now twenty
- 22:50Speaker 1: nine year old son.
- 22:52Speaker 3: At the time, he was very angry that his mother
- 22:54Speaker 3: had left him. He felt abandoned and he really did
- 23:00Speaker 3: not have the coping skills to deal with life on
- 23:03Speaker 3: his own. Neighbors reported hearing him outside banging on garbage
- 23:08Speaker 3: cans in the middle of the night, howling at the moon.
- 23:12Speaker 3: So he had a difficult time when she left, but
- 23:14Speaker 3: it also presented him an opportunity to do what he wanted.
- 23:18Speaker 3: That's when he began to really spend a lot of
- 23:21Speaker 3: time on his computer, delving into the darker side of
- 23:24Speaker 3: life that fascinated him so much.
- 23:31Speaker 1: Twelve years on from Sean's mother's departure, Baton Rouge was
- 23:35Speaker 1: in the midst of a string of horrific murders. The
- 23:39Speaker 1: latest body discovered just a few blocks from the Gillis House.
- 23:45Speaker 1: The recovery of the remains of Donna Bennett Johnston, found
- 23:48Speaker 1: missing an arm and dumped in a drainage ditch, plunged
- 23:52Speaker 1: the city into a state of shock.
- 23:55Speaker 2: Donna Bennett Johnson was a brutal crime scene, tell that
- 24:00Speaker 2: whoever had committed this crime had done it in fury.
- 24:05Speaker 3: People began locking their doors, locking their windows, women began
- 24:08Speaker 3: taking self defense classes. There was such a range between
- 24:13Speaker 3: the types of women that were killed that no one
- 24:15Speaker 3: was safe, and Baton Rouge became paralyzed with fear.
- 24:20Speaker 1: While the Catherine Hall and Johnny may Williams cases had
- 24:23Speaker 1: gone cold, investigators were encouraged by the evidence available at
- 24:28Speaker 1: the Johnston crime scene.
- 24:30Speaker 12: It looks like a vehicle had backed up to that
- 24:34Speaker 12: location and perhaps backed into the area, and maybe she
- 24:38Speaker 12: was in the vehicle and then dragged and thrown into
- 24:41Speaker 12: the canal, and that vehicle left tire mark impressions on
- 24:44Speaker 12: the ground. We attained the list of the people who
- 24:47Speaker 12: had purchased that particular attire.
- 24:53Speaker 1: More encouraging still, DNA evidence retrieved from the body of
- 24:57Speaker 1: Donna Johnstone was matched to that and on the other victims.
- 25:02Speaker 4: We had his DNA profile and three of our victims,
- 25:06Speaker 4: and now we have a tire track that we've identified
- 25:09Speaker 4: that's left at a crime.
- 25:10Speaker 1: SAYN detectives now believed it was merely a matter of
- 25:14Speaker 1: time before they would get their man.
- 25:18Speaker 4: There's an excitement about the task force members knowing that
- 25:21Speaker 4: we were linking these crimes together, so you know, we
- 25:24Speaker 4: knew we're hitting in the right direction.
- 25:31Speaker 1: As the investigation gathered, pace Agent Jeff Methvin from the
- 25:35Speaker 1: FBI began to narrow down a list of potential suspects.
- 25:41Speaker 12: The tire mark impression leads were encouraging because we knew
- 25:45Speaker 12: that this tire had been at our crime saying, and
- 25:48Speaker 12: we knew we had a list of people who had
- 25:49Speaker 12: purchased this tire in our area, and the number one
- 25:52Speaker 12: on there was mister Gillis.
- 26:00Speaker 5: Morning after I'd gotten home from work, two detectives showed
- 26:04Speaker 5: up at the door and wanted to speak with Sean,
- 26:08Speaker 5: and he walked outside with them, which I thought was
- 26:13Speaker 5: rather odd. Why didn't why couldn't they talk to him
- 26:15Speaker 5: in here in front of me? And then he came
- 26:18Speaker 5: in and said, they want me to go downtown.
- 26:24Speaker 4: And so we walked outside and we were standing the driveway,
- 26:26Speaker 4: walking toward our vehicles, and Sean asked, I smoke a
- 26:29Speaker 4: cigarette before we got and of course we said sure.
- 26:33Speaker 4: He smokes about half of a cigarette, drops on the driveway,
- 26:38Speaker 4: places his fin on it to extinguish it, and he said,
- 26:42Speaker 4: let's go get this over with.
- 26:47Speaker 1: Have the Sheriff's Department agent methvin would question Sean Vincent
- 26:52Speaker 1: Gillis on his connection to the Donna Bennett Johnston crime scene.
- 26:56Speaker 13: Do you know while we're talking, we're talking because you
- 27:03Speaker 13: had some tire tracks that possibly.
- 27:06Speaker 7: Came from my car there, and from those tracks, it
- 27:12Speaker 7: appears she was unloaded from that vehicle and thrown into
- 27:16Speaker 7: that canal.
- 27:19Speaker 13: She was not unloaded from my vehicle.
- 27:24Speaker 1: After the initial interview and Gillis's denials, detectives were forced
- 27:29Speaker 1: to release him while they continued to build their case.
- 27:32Speaker 1: Having taken a sample of his DNA.
- 27:36Speaker 5: He came home and he cooked, We sat down together.
- 27:42Speaker 5: He didn't even turn the computer on, and we watched
- 27:45Speaker 5: a movie together, and we spent the evening together. And
- 27:49Speaker 5: about the end of the evening, I said, okay, I said,
- 27:53Speaker 5: I said, what happened? I said, who'd you kill and
- 27:57Speaker 5: he said nothing. He said, I just wanted to spend
- 28:00Speaker 5: evening with you.
- 28:04Speaker 1: Later that same night, the authorities finally got the news
- 28:08Speaker 1: they'd been waiting for.
- 28:11Speaker 12: We received word from the Louisiana State Police Prime Lab
- 28:14Speaker 12: that the nuclear DNA profile we had obtained from Gillis
- 28:18Speaker 12: actually matched the DNA profile from the Catherine Hall and
- 28:23Speaker 12: Donovan and Johnson crime say.
- 28:27Speaker 1: The couple's romantic night in was to be interrupted by
- 28:30Speaker 1: a visit from the task Force.
- 28:34Speaker 5: They burst through the door, kicked the doors in in
- 28:38Speaker 5: every room in the house, through a smoke bomb in here,
- 28:42Speaker 5: and a bunch of police officers came in and arrested John.
- 28:48Speaker 5: I demanded to know what was going on immediately, and
- 28:52Speaker 5: then that's when they said, don't you know you're living
- 28:55Speaker 5: with a serial killer.
- 29:00Speaker 1: For Terry, the accusations were impossible to comprehend.
- 29:06Speaker 5: I laughed at him and told him, boy, do you
- 29:09Speaker 5: have the wrong house.
- 29:12Speaker 1: Yet it would not be long before Terry finally saw
- 29:15Speaker 1: the true face of the man she had shared her
- 29:18Speaker 1: life with.
- 29:21Speaker 5: I went downtown to the station and I looked at
- 29:24Speaker 5: him through the little window, and I said, tell me,
- 29:29Speaker 5: did you do what they said you did? And Sean
- 29:35Speaker 5: was a goofy looking guy, and he just snarted his
- 29:37Speaker 5: head and he said, I'm sorry, honey, Bonnie, but yeah,
- 29:46Speaker 5: and my whole world just ended, I see, to a
- 29:54Speaker 5: rich alo.
- 29:57Speaker 1: Under questioning, Gillis began to divulge the chilling details of
- 30:01Speaker 1: his crimes and offer an insight into his twisted mind.
- 30:06Speaker 14: How does the word monster come to mind?
- 30:15Speaker 1: The ligature marks found on his victims would also be explained.
- 30:20Speaker 15: Don't I had some type of or a neck or sign?
- 30:24Speaker 5: What?
- 30:25Speaker 14: I want to bring my own tie lock demonstration? Okay,
- 30:35Speaker 14: that's simple.
- 30:37Speaker 12: Mister Gillis told us that he had a name for
- 30:40Speaker 12: the zip ties that he used to commit his homicide.
- 30:43Speaker 11: Conjectrification is exactly how I look at it.
- 30:46Speaker 13: I called my weapon that sometimes the objective ire because
- 30:50Speaker 13: it would cond them from a woman to the object
- 30:53Speaker 13: that I would then deal with.
- 30:56Speaker 12: His primary goal was to kill the victim as soon
- 31:00Speaker 12: as possible, because it was not the act of killing
- 31:03Speaker 12: that he was interested in.
- 31:04Speaker 15: I'm talking about manipulating dead bodies. It's interesting term he used.
- 31:10Speaker 15: That's exactly the way I looked at it. And would
- 31:14Speaker 15: it surprised you that the control of another being's limbs.
- 31:22Speaker 2: Is a part of it.
- 31:25Speaker 16: In almost every case where the sexual murderer engaged in necrophilia,
- 31:30Speaker 16: they also had a partner. Necrophilia is basically just another
- 31:34Speaker 16: deviant sexual arousal pattern. This was arousing to him, This
- 31:40Speaker 16: was really erotic to him, and if he wasn't apprehended,
- 31:43Speaker 16: it would have continued.
- 31:46Speaker 1: Shockingly, the true depths of Gillis's depravity would be revealed
- 31:50Speaker 1: when he confessed to further murders, including that of Anne Bryan.
- 31:55Speaker 1: In nineteen ninety four.
- 31:58Speaker 12: Mister Gillis had started confessing to the crimes that we
- 32:00Speaker 12: were looking at him for, and throughout the following week
- 32:03Speaker 12: or so, he started confessing to other crimes.
- 32:06Speaker 15: Tell me an approximate number five, six, seven.
- 32:19Speaker 12: It was not surprising to me. I anticipate there would
- 32:22Speaker 12: probably be more than what he told us about.
- 32:25Speaker 14: I honestly don't count. I don't count who I don't.
- 32:32Speaker 5: Sean.
- 32:33Speaker 1: Vincent Gillis would go on to admit to the unsold
- 32:36Speaker 1: slayings of four more women, shockingly, bringing his total number
- 32:42Speaker 1: of victims to eight. Gillis's confession would also explain the
- 32:50Speaker 1: truth behind the smell that overwhelmed his car when he
- 32:54Speaker 1: collected Terry from work one morning.
- 32:58Speaker 5: It wasn't until he was arrested that I found out
- 33:02Speaker 5: that one of his victims was in the trunk of
- 33:05Speaker 5: the car. That car still sits in my yard. I
- 33:15Speaker 5: don't drive, so it still just sits there.
- 33:21Speaker 13: Yes, that's one of the few times Terry did get
- 33:22Speaker 13: to ride with a body in the car without knowing it.
- 33:26Speaker 13: I mean, because I mean she was wanting had just
- 33:28Speaker 13: been dead, you know, a few hours earlier.
- 33:33Speaker 1: The acts that Gillis confessed to engaging in prior to
- 33:36Speaker 1: disposing of her body were more shocking.
- 33:39Speaker 14: Still, she had beautiful legs.
- 33:43Speaker 13: It's one thing that I recalled about her, and I
- 33:47Speaker 13: wanted to keep those along on the legs, huh, And
- 33:51Speaker 13: used a sharp knife to cut and I remember trying
- 33:55Speaker 13: to get her arm off as well. I remember of
- 33:59Speaker 13: my unfortunately did.
- 34:00Speaker 14: Occur in the else on my kitchen floor.
- 34:04Speaker 13: Don't know how much bloodsh're found, but I clean and
- 34:06Speaker 13: clean and clean their place.
- 34:10Speaker 1: Although Shawn Vincent Gillis had finally been apprehended, the question
- 34:14Speaker 1: of what might have driven him to such unspeakable violence
- 34:18Speaker 1: still loomed large. In two thousand and four, the arrest
- 34:28Speaker 1: of Shawn Vincent Gillis brought to a close his ten
- 34:31Speaker 1: year reign of terror. With Gillis having confessed to the
- 34:38Speaker 1: murders of eight women, investigators and associates alike began looking
- 34:43Speaker 1: for an insight into the mind of a man capable
- 34:46Speaker 1: of the truly monstrous. Defense attorney Kerricacheer recalls his client
- 34:54Speaker 1: as someone seemingly at odds with himself.
- 34:57Speaker 9: The certainly or two different Shawn Gillis's, and two different
- 35:02Speaker 9: Shawn Gillises will reveal through the course of our investigation.
- 35:07Speaker 9: I think that's the nature of the great story of
- 35:10Speaker 9: doctor Jackeline mister Hide. You know, how could the wonderful
- 35:13Speaker 9: doctor jackyal become the horrendous mister Hide.
- 35:19Speaker 1: Terry Lemoyne was forced to reflect on a man she
- 35:21Speaker 1: realized she never truly knew.
- 35:24Speaker 5: I had somebody that was going to be there. Someone saved,
- 35:29Speaker 5: someone lovable and they turned into someone yee, I didn't know.
- 35:44Speaker 5: Never think you know everything about anybody, ever.
- 35:55Speaker 17: Never.
- 36:00Speaker 1: The question of what might have compelled Shawn Vincent Gillis
- 36:03Speaker 1: to commit such crimes was one that fascinated those who
- 36:06Speaker 1: searched for an explanation.
- 36:10Speaker 12: He had a great interest in a particular website that
- 36:13Speaker 12: he would go to and it had crime scenes from
- 36:15Speaker 12: all different crimes. Bodies would be laying there and the
- 36:20Speaker 12: police tape would be up and things like that. So
- 36:22Speaker 12: in retrospect, I don't think he was more enjoying it
- 36:27Speaker 12: just to do it, as he was feeding some type
- 36:29Speaker 12: of desire that he had to have his own crime scene.
- 36:34Speaker 16: One other thing about Gillis's he photographed a number of
- 36:38Speaker 16: his victims, and he did this because he was creating
- 36:41Speaker 16: his own pornography. What he would do is take a
- 36:44Speaker 16: look at those pictures and use that as a stimulant
- 36:48Speaker 16: to fantasize about what had happened.
- 36:53Speaker 1: Gillis himself would claim his twisted and violent perversions had
- 36:57Speaker 1: been evident for some time.
- 37:00Speaker 15: I tried to kill my cousin wants to field her birth.
- 37:02Speaker 15: So how were you, Oh, we're about twelve thirteen. What
- 37:14Speaker 15: about funeral homes?
- 37:16Speaker 14: Funeral homes?
- 37:17Speaker 15: This will go back to the childhood.
- 37:19Speaker 13: I spent a lot of time and my grandmother the
- 37:21Speaker 13: funeral home across the street, and now my cousin. I mean,
- 37:23Speaker 13: we would do morbid things like sleep in the golfers.
- 37:26Speaker 13: A lot of people can't.
- 37:27Speaker 14: Belete that, but we do it.
- 37:29Speaker 16: The number of individuals that harbor these very perverse, sadistic
- 37:34Speaker 16: fantasies is much much larger than the small number of
- 37:37Speaker 16: people who actually act them out. The individual who acts
- 37:42Speaker 16: out and begins a series of murders has harbored these
- 37:45Speaker 16: fantasies for fifteen twenty years, and unfortunately, once they get
- 37:50Speaker 16: away with it with one individual, they become then emboldened.
- 37:56Speaker 17: Anyone who has these extreme inclin nations typically figures out
- 38:02Speaker 17: a way to compartmentalize. Typically people who are driven by
- 38:07Speaker 17: sexual compulsion or there's a sexual element to their murders
- 38:12Speaker 17: that becomes addictive.
- 38:14Speaker 13: Yeah, I know right from wrong as well as you do.
- 38:16Speaker 14: I know you do, but there.
- 38:18Speaker 13: Are certain times when it fuzzes out, and it's really
- 38:24Speaker 13: not that I don't know it anymore. It's like it
- 38:28Speaker 13: doesn't matter anymore. This is on my universe.
- 38:31Speaker 5: I'm God.
- 38:31Speaker 13: There, I am God.
- 38:37Speaker 1: At the trial, the question of Gillis's mental health was
- 38:40Speaker 1: much discussed.
- 38:42Speaker 9: There are forms of mental illness that are genetic and
- 38:47Speaker 9: can be inherited, and there are indications a boy chawans
- 38:51Speaker 9: for the having a lot of mental health treatment.
- 38:57Speaker 17: So I think he would inevitably think about what he's
- 39:01Speaker 17: seen in his father, and then think about what have
- 39:04Speaker 17: I inherited? What is this why I'm like I am?
- 39:08Speaker 1: That's where it is ultimately Sewn Vincent Gillis would be
- 39:12Speaker 1: convicted of first degree murder and sentenced to life without
- 39:17Speaker 1: the benefit of parole. So was Shawn Vincent Gillis simply
- 39:23Speaker 1: a man acting out his darkest fantasies or was his
- 39:27Speaker 1: compulsion to kill hardwired.
- 39:32Speaker 3: I don't believe that Seawn Gillis was a natural born killer.
- 39:35Speaker 3: I believe that he had some kind of psychosis inherited
- 39:40Speaker 3: from his father, and I believe that that, combined later
- 39:44Speaker 3: in life with the obsession that he developed for the
- 39:48Speaker 3: bodies of dead women, compelled him to find some of
- 39:52Speaker 3: his own. That makes him pretty unique as far as
- 39:56Speaker 3: serial killers go.
- 39:59Speaker 16: I don't think was a born killer, but in my view,
- 40:02Speaker 16: there's a very strong neurobiological component. He probably doesn't understand
- 40:07Speaker 16: why he did it at every level, but he knows
- 40:11Speaker 16: very well that he did it because it was sexually stimulating.
- 40:15Speaker 9: I don't think you can find any one thing that
- 40:19Speaker 9: brought about the events of Sean Gillis's life. I know
- 40:24Speaker 9: that through the course of our investigation, we found that
- 40:28Speaker 9: he had brain dysfunction that would make it hard for
- 40:32Speaker 9: him to resist impulses.
- 40:36Speaker 17: Nothing about him indicates he was necessarily born to kill.
- 40:40Speaker 17: I think he conditioned himself into becoming a killer, developing
- 40:45Speaker 17: a arousal to extreme types of treatment of women that involve
- 40:53Speaker 17: violations and death.
- 41:00Speaker 12: Kids all the time, you know, as they're growing up
- 41:02Speaker 12: and they're learning about life, that there are dragons to slay,
- 41:07Speaker 12: and mister Gillis is an example of that. Whether or
- 41:10Speaker 12: not he was made or nurtured to be what he is,
- 41:16Speaker 12: the end result is he was a dragon and we
- 41:18Speaker 12: needed to stop him.
- 41:26Speaker 1: During his interrogation, Giddess would offer his own opinion on
- 41:30Speaker 1: the nature or nurture debate.
- 41:33Speaker 11: At one point I could control it. It's beyond my
- 41:39Speaker 11: control at the moment. I'm amostle maniac. I don't mean
- 41:45Speaker 11: to be.
- 41:51Speaker 1: Although Justin Bennett lost his mother in the worst possible circumstances,
- 41:57Speaker 1: he has found peace of mind.
- 42:01Speaker 6: The way I feel now, I honestly have forgiven what
- 42:05Speaker 6: he's done. That's his life, his burden, and I can't
- 42:09Speaker 6: let it eat me up and inside forever.
- 42:15Speaker 1: In spite of the damage done by the years she
- 42:18Speaker 1: shared with Sean Vincent Gillis. Terry Lemoyden has rebuilt her life,
- 42:24Speaker 1: closing the book on a story far stranger than fiction.
- 42:30Speaker 5: Never in my life would I have thought that that
- 42:32Speaker 5: geeky looking person that came to that store that night
- 42:37Speaker 5: would turn out to be the person that he turned
- 42:39Speaker 5: out to be. But it's a chapter of my life
- 42:49Speaker 5: that's given me quite an education.