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Tron Is Delicious w/ Dr. Aaron Chapa · The Delicious Culture with Jon Francois

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Hey, delishies, grab a plate and taste the delicious
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culture. I'm your host, John Francois. We're
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feasting on food, pop culture and lifestyle with
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Dr. Aaron. I should have asked for your pronunciation.
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Is it Choppa? Choppa, baby, like chopsticks.
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Absolutely. Since we're talking about culture
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and food and stuff like that. Oh man, that's
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fantastic. All right. So Dr. Aaron Choppa, a
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clinical nutritionist and founder of Living Well
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Clinical Nutrition, which helps people improve
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energy, balance hormones and optimize health.
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Now, one of the questions, as you know, Dr. Aaron
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Choppa, is what's a delicious meal that you've
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had lately. So I kind of wonder to start us off
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before we get into those questions. How does
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food apply to your sort of mission statement
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for living well, clinical nutrition? Oh, excellent.
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All life starts and stops at the cellular level.
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And nutrition is the fundamental backbone that
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either drives your health onward, upward, goodward,
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and godward, or crashes you in the dust into
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disease land, symptom land, and the land of the
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unfortunate. That is a very wonderfully worded
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way of putting it. I've said it quite a few times
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over 21 years. So absolutely. That's great. Okay.
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So maybe let's apply that to your life. So before
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we started recording, I had asked you for audio
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test purposes, what you had to eat today. And
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you had mentioned something that I thought I
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would never hear in my life, a bone broth protein
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shake. Yeah, it's genuinely just bone broth protein
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powder. It is the number one carnivore. friendly
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protein shake on the market that people are,
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I think it's from a company called Nobly or something.
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I don't even know the name. It's literally brand
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new. I experiment with products all the time
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before I either recommend them or bring them
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into my office. Sometimes it's just for my experimentation
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because I'm always, as a clinical nutritionist,
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my job is to figure out how to meet the needs
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of people biochemically. And everybody comes
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in at a different spot. People have different
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health issues. They have different wants and
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desires, and as you can imagine with pop culture
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and food, taste buds. I mean, people like what
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they like and they don't like what they don't
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like. And one of the things I think is the most
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fascinating thing about where I've evolved to
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over the last 21 years of practice is protein
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is any type of chicken, fish, turkey, eggs, beef,
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lamb, and you can have that for breakfast. People
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are thinking, well, don't you have to have the...
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the egg bites or scrambled eggs, or I get tired
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of eating breakfast foods, they say. And I'm
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like, we'll just eat shrimp for breakfast. And
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they're like, ugh, that's gross. No, Tabasco
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sauce and shrimp breakfast is great. Or, you
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know, white fish of sorts, light fish for breakfast
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and spinach and onions is awesome. You know,
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but you do, it's a mindset. Like we really have
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in our culture, I think, been duped and brainwashed
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to believe that certain times of the day where
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we're supposed to eat certain things? And really
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and truly, the best time to eat your biggest,
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largest meal of the day is breakfast. And it
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should be a protein -heavy breakfast because
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it's like a metabolic engine that you're feeding
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first thing in the morning. Like you wouldn't
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put, you know, sticks inside the furnace of the
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old school trains and expect it to burn good.
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No, you got to put coal in there, man, because
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that's the stuff that burns hot. It burns long.
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And so the type of fuel that we put in our bodies
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determines how our day plays out. how productive
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we are, whether or not we catch a cold or don't
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catch a cold or fight a cold or, you know, get
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beat up by the cold. You know what I mean? It's
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like, it's interesting. Food is medicine. And
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so one of the hardest things that I have to overcome
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with people is retraining them on their relationship
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with food and what they eat, what time of day.
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It's kind of just a, it's just interesting observation
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of what I've seen over the years. Yeah, you know,
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I love how you... mentioned that people like
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when they hear about eating shrimp for breakfast,
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it's like, wait, what? No, because like, we're
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so societally used to, like, when we think of
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breakfast, we think of like waffles, we think
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of cereal, we think of pancakes, you know, there
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are all these - Pop tarts, baby. Pop tarts. Yeah,
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yeah. Cold pizza. Yeah. I mean, it's like you
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ask someone about shrimp at like four o 'clock
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in the afternoon and they're like, yeah, sure.
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Why not? But suddenly they eat it at seven in
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the morning and it almost is like you're it's
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like you're asking them to drink. I don't know.
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Carrot juice when they hate the idea of carrots
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and juice. Right. So, yeah, it is very much a
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mindset thing. I mean, I think if we just get
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out of the idea of like, oh no, this is the certain
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food that you have to have this time of day and
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more so focus on what can this food provide for
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you in terms of like health. Yeah, and looking
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at it this way too, like if let's say that you're
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going to a Saturday brunch, right? With friends
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you haven't seen in years and they're coming
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in to hang out and you don't want to be the...
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the boring friend that doesn't want to eat what
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everybody else is eating and you go to the brunch
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place and you don't really know what to eat because
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there's all this pastries and bread products
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and you really are working on eating better or
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on a health plan or on a program that somebody's
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got you going on, a workout regimen. And so the
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way I kind of look at it is like, I would eat
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clean all week up to that moment knowing that
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I was going to cheat in that meal. Because if
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you look at like many people eat three meals
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a day, some eat two meals a day, and then like
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snacks in between, right? So let's say that the
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average person eats five meals a day over the
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course of seven days. That's 35 meals a week.
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Well, you can afford, I hope, health points to
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kind of derail a little bit and go have some
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fun with some homies, right? Right. Because food
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is like your show. It's cultural. Like we build
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relationships around people's eating behaviors.
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Like if you hang out with somebody that is a
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vegetarian and you're not really going to invite
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them when you go out to the steakhouse. Am I
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wrong? Probably not. Probably not. I mean, unless
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they have a good salad bar, but even then still
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you kind of hesitate. And I've just observed
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that over the years with my own food habits change.
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I got into bodybuilding about back in 2019 and
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it was a lot of fun, but I didn't have any friends
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anymore at the end of three years of it because
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no. People are like, he's too, he's too regimented,
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he's too strict. He won't cheat. He won't have
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fun with us anymore. And I'm like, well, that's
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not true. I still like y 'all. But, but you won't
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come, you won't eat the shrimp or you won't eat
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the crawfish boil and potatoes and corn. You
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won't drink a beer with us and all the things.
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And I'm like, well, that's true. But I was on
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a plan and I was dialed in and I didn't have,
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I didn't make room for that margins. That's one
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of the things I learned about that lifestyle
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that I'm like, it's fun to do, but I would heck
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no wouldn't want to live like that forever because
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I like people. Yeah, I mean, and I like people
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as well. Speaking of those delicious meals that
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those friends are like, oh, why aren't you coming
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with us to dine on this? We can kind of like
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change the question a little bit. A delicious
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meal that you've had lately could be a cheat
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meal that you really... Oh, I can tell you a
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good meal. Let me tell you a good meal. This
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will be good because I have been... Carnivore
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strict for over a year. Okay. Carnivore meaning
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I have only eaten meat, beef, lamb, chicken,
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fish, turkey, egg, shrimp. That's it. Okay. Over
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a year. Yeah. Salt, pepper, garlic, maybe a little
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Cholula. You got to get that little Mexican spice
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in there for my Mexican blood. So I absolutely
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have been pretty regimented with that over the
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last year. Well, we went to Phoenix, Arizona.
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to a restaurant on a mountain on my wife and
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I's 21st anniversary. And yes, I got a really
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good Wagyu steak, but there was some asparagus.
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There was some Brussels sprouts. There was a
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salad and there was dessert and dude. Oh my God.
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So long. And they brought us this special little,
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how are like moon pie cake thing that was so
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delicious that I mean oh my it like had this
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candy thing around I don't even know how to describe
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it other than it was like Wonderful. My teeth
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were sweating. My taste buds were sensationalized.
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It was legit. Yeah. Well, since you cannot describe
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it, I got to look up like a Google image of Moon
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Pie Cake because I'm already in love just hearing
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you. Oh, man. I wonder, as you're doing that,
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I'm going to text my wife as well and see if
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I can find the restaurant. It was an off -menu
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item. They just brought it because it was a celebratory
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cake. And then we've got this. I'm going to ask
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you real quick. Does it kind of look like those
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little Debbie snack versions of the Moon Pies?
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Or is it completely different? No, it looked
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like an upside -down mini Bundt cake, I guess.
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But golly, I'm going to see if she can help me
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out. What was that restaurant we went to in Phoenix,
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Arizona? And what was the name of those two desserts
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we got? Yeah. So it sounds like the Wagyu steak
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and the asparagus and the Brussels sprouts, like
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all that stuff. That kind of ties into the diet
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that you're trying to stay under. But then the
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dessert, that's the more cheap part of it, correct?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was the fun, for sure.
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And, you know, for her and I to do that meal,
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was really awesome. I mean, the environment was
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good. I mean, I don't even remember the name
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of the restaurant. I mean, it was like two weeks
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ago, but golly, it was pleasant. And I don't
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know if you've ever been to Phoenix, Arizona,
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but it was so crisp. I mean, it was so perfect.
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The weather was beautiful. The cactus, I don't
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know if you've ever seen a cactus, but apparently
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cactus, the big cool ones with the little arms
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and stuff, they grow 12 inches. every 10 years.
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And when you see one of these gigantuan cacti,
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you're just like kind of... perplexed that that
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is an 80 year old tree and it looks so fragile.
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And I ask why is that? How do they grow 12 inches
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every 10 years? Is it just like a certain watering
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process or? Yeah, that's exactly right. They're
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actually under federal law. They can't be tampered
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with because they're like an endangered species.
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It's in a desert climate. And so they wouldn't
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even live in Texas where it's humid and wet.
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It's like they're their ecosystem doesn't jive
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you have to keep them indoors and very interesting
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behavior patterns and so like they were trying
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to sell us like a little cactus farm like a you
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know you'd get like a hermit crab farm or something
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but no it was genuinely like a cactus farm and
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they said yeah this will this will live in your
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house you cannot put it outside and it'll be
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about the same size for the next 10 years it
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will seemingly not grow and then it'll grow a
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little bit. and then it'll grow a little bit.
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It's like, it's very, very slow growing. So one
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of the cakes was brown butter cake. That was
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the one that she wanted. Can you look it up?
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And because, wowza. But anyway, that was my,
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that was the latest cheat meal and that was kind
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of fun to deviate off the Dr. Choppa plan. Right,
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right. What's the climate like in Phoenix? So
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it's not humid and wet like Texas. Is it a drier
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climate? No, it's desert. It's a desert. Absolutely.
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They don't get rain. If they do get rain, those
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plants will soak up hundreds of gallons of water
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and they can store it for long periods of time.
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a camel being able to like resource what it can
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in a desert with those big pumps on its back.
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Well, cactus essentially do the same thing. And
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so when you see a cactus with arms, those arms
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indicate decades and decades of growth. And so
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when you sit there and you stare at this thing
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and you go, wow, God, that's awesome. Every thing
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that's created under the heavens. has a way of
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surviving and thriving in whatever climate it's
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in. And then so look at our bodies, like our
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bodies essentially are that same. We are made
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up of proteins and essential fatty acids. We
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are made up of what you see in the camera, what
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I see in the camera is a product of what you've
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put in the system and your body is displaying
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that. electrical energy and vibe that is put
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off to the world. And so it could be toxins.
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If you see somebody's really inflamed, it could
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be somebody that's hunched over and beat up.
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You can see that their spine is collapsing. That's
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because of the body deteriorating faster than
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it was designed to. And it's all based on ecosystems
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that we are building. How do we stress? How do
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we rest? How do we vacation? How do we celebrate?
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How do we Sabbath? How do we think? How do we
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enjoy relationships? Like it all, health is so
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much more than just like I don't have a symptom
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or haven't been diagnosed or I don't have a disease
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or I don't have a medication, right? It's so
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much more, right? And in healthy living practices
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is where I've kind of really pushed myself to
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not be so regimented and or ever. make a dietary
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plan for somebody that's so steep they can't
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climb it. You gotta think of one degree incremental
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change, because in my world, and this is just
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an observation, and not everybody actually agrees
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with me, but I don't know that everybody's played
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with people's diets as much as I have, but I
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can talk to people about religion and politics
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and controversial topics, but the minute I start
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bringing up food, I mean, it's like the Dukes
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come up. They're like, don't talk about my moon
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pie. Really? Don't be talking about like, you
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know, what I eat. You would think that would
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be the energy toward religion and politics because
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people definitely have their intense opinions
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about that. But you're saying food people, people
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feel more passionate about their food, you know?
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Absolutely. And being that I've been doing this
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for 21 years, people are very emotionally connected
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to their food, their diagnosis. and what they've
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been educated to believe. And I'm not sure 100
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% why. If I was suffering for migraines, for
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example, if I had high blood pressure or worse,
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high cholesterol, right? So I was with my mom
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21 years ago at a doctor's office and the doctor
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told her, I wish they would just put cholesterol
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drugs in the water. We need to get cholesterol
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eradicated. And I'm like, oh my... This is 21
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years ago and I didn't quote unquote know anything.
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But what I did know is like fundamentally, you
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cannot build healthy hormones, testosterone,
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estrogen, progesterone, stress hormones without
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cholesterol. So to eradicate cholesterol was
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just a physiologically dumb thing to say. And
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I was like, why would he say that? You know,
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he was so dogmatic that it's just like, it was
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the devil is the bane of society. And I'm just
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like, Oh, and the other cup, the other cake she
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said was peanut butter bomb. Oh my God. All right.
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So I got it like the brown butter cake. What,
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what is in a brown butter cake? I've never heard
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that before. I don't know, but she said it was
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a Reese's Pieces butter cup on out of the, that
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would be out of this world. Yeah. Peanut butter
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bomb. So it's peanut butter mousse. chocolate
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peanut butter ganache. Yeah, this is your wife
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texting you. Oh, yeah, yeah. Coco nibs, caramel
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popcorn and chocolate drizzle. Jesus Christ.
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And that's, and I'm sorry, that's the Reese's
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cake or is that the brown butter cake? That's
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the peanut butter bomb. And like I said, the
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other one wasn't on the menu. It was just something
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they brought out because they were like, oh,
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we... you know, happy anniversary. Like, you
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know what I mean? It was really genuinely sweet.
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And I mean, they even wrote happy anniversary
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in chocolate over the top of it. I mean, they
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did. They took care of it. It was really sweet.
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Did you try both that cake and the moon pie cake?
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Oh, bro. Yeah. Oh, dude, I was off the rails.
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Now I've heard stories of people that like you
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know they go they have a strict diet like yours
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and then they cheat every now and then and for
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a cake like that I would imagine like did you
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have any like stomach issues later on or were
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you digesting that pretty well? So I think maybe
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years ago that might have messed with me but
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a couple things. One, I have found that when
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I go on vacation -ish times, and I wasn't on
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a vacation, I was on a work trip, but I was outside
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of my element. You know what I mean? And believe
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it or not, as weird as this sounds, I mean, I
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took five days' worth of food with me. So four
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days were frozen, one day was my working meal,
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and I got to our condo and I, you know, put my...
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my long -term meals in the freezer and I would
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just pull them down as the nights would come.
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So you weren't totally beholden to going out
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to eat all the time? That's correct. You were
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like, I gotta bring everything with me, okay.
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Yeah, and I'm that guy. So just to give you an
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idea, I live and practice because I got patients
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that travel, I got patients that deal with business
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meetings where this is what they tell me that
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they have to drink in order to make the sale.
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Right. Or they have to go out to dinner and eat
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fried food. And, and, but I have high blood pressure.
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I got this and I got gout and I got, you know,
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belly pain and indigestion and reflux and whatever
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they're dealing with. Right. So part of what
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I'm trying to help people do is figure out how
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to live better in a world that demands you to
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participate. Cause some of these jobs, I mean,
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they demand you to participate and it is difficult
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to travel and eat well. I mean, if you eat out,
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this is an interesting you know, thought, there's
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something called the four deadly food additives.
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And your chances of any restaurant that you go
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to, even this nice place that we went, more than
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likely cooked with partially hydrogenated seed
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oils. So that could be like cottonseed oil, canola
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oil, safflower oil, soybean oil, who knows, right?
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And is that a good thing, bad thing? These are
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poisonous oils that will clog up your liver for
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up to three months if you have a good liver.
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And if you don't have a good liver, then it could
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be six or eight months. And that's one food,
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that's one ingredient that's in most restaurants
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across the country. The second that you're gonna
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get exposed to is high fructose corn syrup, which
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is literally like highly processed kerosene sugar
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source that would literally like... blow up your
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blood sugar, spike your insulin, and put you
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into an inflamed state. Then artificial sugars.
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A lot of times people don't realize there's a
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lot of artificial sugar that are neurochemicals
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that rest in the brain and give these tension
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headaches and memory issues, names, numbers,
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words, et cetera. And then there's MSG and monosodium
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glutamate is another way to say it, that is a
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highly processed spice. Now, the word MSG is
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not a terrible thing. It's the chemically adulterated
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version. It's just like white salt is bad for
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you, but like a Australian or Hawaiian salt that
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comes sun dried out of 2500 meters below the
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sea is good for you. So not all, you can't just
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like say all salts bad. Right. Or, and you can't
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say all restaurants are bad because you could,
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I can go to a restaurant and figure my way. You
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know what I mean? And, and that's another fun
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thing to do is to pick a restaurant and go, all
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right, shop, what would you eat there? Now there
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might be some restaurants that I can't figure
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out. Like I always say the fastest way to the
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pearly gates is through the golden oranges. Yeah.
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McDonald's in other words. And so it's really
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fascinating because, you know, they say that
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the food patties that they sell are all beef.
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And, but yet somebody did some research and discovered
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that there's not enough beef on the planet to
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meet the market needs that they say they can
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supply. But then you dig into the research and
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you realize they're buying from a company called
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AllBeef or RealBeef or whatever it's called.
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And so the reality is, is marketing is awesome.
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great books read, how to lie with statistics.
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I think that was a Microsoft guru book, you know?
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And we start to realize that, you know, we have
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to start learning to think for ourselves and
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realize if you have symptoms that you weren't
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genetically born with, we do have to kind of
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pay attention to food matters. And it really,
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really does. And anybody that tells you otherwise,
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they're just uninformed. You know what I mean?
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I don't even try to fight with those folks anymore
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because typically they're educated professionals
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that I want to be, you know, respectful of. But
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yeah, they don't, they just don't, we can stand
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touching noses and never see eye to eye. Yeah.
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Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. I want to go back
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to your wagyu steak meal. Cause I know I had
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someone on my podcast. A few episodes ago, a
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friend of mine from college theater days, her
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name is Olivia. What makes a wagyu steak? Like
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what is it in the shape, the size, the way it's
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cooked? Like why is it called a wagyu steak?
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Oh, it's a good question. So essentially a wagyu
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steak is a steak that was, lack of a better word,
22:29
it's how the animal is grown. And when it's grown
22:34
on the farm, It is taken to a level of tenderness
22:41
when it is harvested, that it's one of the most
22:46
tender meats you'll ever have. And so wagyu is
22:49
very expensive because of the processing that
22:52
it takes to get it to be so tender at the time
22:55
that it's on your plate. Gotcha. And you mentioned
22:58
Brussels sprouts and asparagus. Again, I mean,
23:01
I was talking with another guest a few episodes
23:03
ago about the love of Brussels sprouts and how
23:07
It's much better roasted and then steamed. I
23:11
think the steamed Brussels sprouts is what we
23:13
We're typically served as a kid and we were just
23:15
like, oh god But as you grow older and you roast
23:18
up and you put salt and pepper and all that stuff
23:19
It becomes a really rapid and bacon. Oh, come
23:23
on. Oh, wow I don't think I've had that but that
23:25
sounds like it could be an experience. Oh, dude
23:27
Yes, if you okay. Well, so you real quick So
23:29
yeah, we'll go to the veggie because I have some
23:31
cool things to talk about vegetables, but with
23:34
the wagyu So I just had a new I had to want to
23:37
double -check typically bread selection true
23:40
wagyu Japanese cultural background. That's a
23:46
black breed, sourced, short -horned, marbled
23:52
steak. Slow growth, regular cattle are often
23:58
pushed faster for size. Wagyu are raised longer,
24:02
sometimes up to 28 to 36 months instead of 18
24:05
to 24 months. Longer timeline. more intramuscular
24:09
fat, so it's going to be just way more juicy
24:12
and tender. And genuinely, when I cut into the
24:14
steak, I didn't even have a knife. I just literally
24:17
took my fork and I didn't even have to wrestle
24:19
with it. It really just tore apart. It was so
24:23
smooth. And when you put it in your mouth, it
24:25
genuinely melted. Oh, that sounds great. You
24:28
don't get that a lot of steak. You do not. Absolutely.
24:32
And so you then whenever you have a steak like
24:36
that, then you're like, man, I want something
24:37
like that all the time. But then you go and see
24:39
what they cost. You start to realize, oh, wow,
24:42
yeah, you definitely that's why you eat that
24:44
stuff on an anniversary. Exactly. That's why
24:46
it's a special occasion. and asparagus actually
24:50
my wife literally just made that for dinner tonight
24:53
along with like rice and calbasa but asparagus
24:55
not only is it delicious but i'm childish that
24:59
classic thing of like asparagus making your pee
25:02
smell funny like that's the part of the reason
25:04
why i look forward to it because it's such a
25:07
quirky thing to go through do you know the science
25:09
behind that or do you or no So what I have, well,
25:14
a little fun fact. Did you know that when you
25:17
eat asparagus raw, you don't get that effect?
25:20
Really? Why is that? When you cook it, when you
25:23
cook asparagus, it releases a chemical that essentially
25:28
is a sulfur containing compound like... I think
25:32
it's methionol, or dimethyl sulfide. It's like
25:37
a compound that's just a sharp, that kind of
25:40
rotten, cottage cabbage smell. And yes, it's
25:44
a part, you're like, woo -hoo, that smelled good.
25:46
It's like that stuff's processing through really
25:48
fast. But when you don't cook it and you eat
25:50
it raw, you just have the phytonutrients, you
25:53
have the biophotons, you have just its raw nature.
25:57
It doesn't release that same sulfurish. smell
26:00
into the urine and I thought that was fascinating
26:03
and I genuinely thought a raw asparagus would
26:06
be really kind of gross because it just it just
26:09
doesn't sound appealing but you dip that in some
26:12
hummus you dip that in a chimichurri sauce you
26:15
eat it just like a carrot and It's better raw
26:21
in my humble opinion, than even cooked, except
26:24
when you wrap it in bacon. When you wrap it in
26:27
bacon and you roast it in the oven, oh bro. It
26:30
is so, so, so good. Oh, I bet. I bet. And I feel
26:35
like you can apply that to like all vegetables.
26:36
Aren't all vegetables much better for you when
26:38
you eat it raw rather than when you cook it?
26:40
Well, yes. And that is absolutely, you lose what
26:44
they call the biophoton energy when you do any
26:48
type of processing to it. It's just some of these
26:51
things people... They're just like unaccustomed
26:54
to raw broccoli and raw cab. And there's some
26:56
people that can't do raw foods where they can
26:59
do the cooked version or vice versa. And again,
27:02
it comes just back down to the, where their body
27:04
is in that wellness curve. What can they digest?
27:08
What can't they? There are people, so Stephen
27:14
Gundry wrote a... book called The Plant Paradox
27:19
and The Plant Paradox basically talks about this
27:24
substance in many many vegetables called lectins
27:28
and He paints a picture in two volumes of book
27:33
about how poisonous plants are. And then there's
27:36
a guy named Andrew Chaffee who did this cool
27:39
little documentary. He's a neuroscientist. So
27:42
Stephen Gundry is a cardiologist with the longest
27:45
running cardiovascular study in the United States.
27:51
And so he's talking about plants and how they're
27:54
basically poisoning you. And so like a plant,
27:57
if you just go and eat a piece of fruit, for
27:59
example, like an apple, before it's ready to
28:02
be eaten, it'll make you sick and could potentially
28:05
kill you. Interesting. Right? So, Gundry paints
28:08
this picture that the mother plant, the tree
28:11
or the plant will release a chemical to down
28:15
regulate or turn off the volume of lectin in
28:19
wheat and peanuts and tomatoes and eggplants
28:23
and different types of subs legumes. And therefore,
28:28
once the mother plant turns off the lectin concentration,
28:32
a human can eat it. and or an animal can eat
28:35
it. So it's almost like if an animal attacks
28:39
the apple tree too early and the apple tree is
28:43
not ready for procreation, it will kill its host.
28:47
And then guess what animals learn? Hey, that
28:50
thing on that tree will kill you. Don't eat it.
28:52
And they'll pass that through the generational
28:54
tribe of their people. or their animal culture.
28:58
It's fascinating. Well, Dr. Chaffee, Andrew Chaffee,
29:04
who has been carnivore for like 20 some odd years.
29:07
So he was carnivore before people thought carnivore
29:09
was cool. And he was sitting in a class and this
29:16
doctor was sitting there talking about how plants
29:19
are trying to kill you. And he just goes on this
29:21
whole rant. Well, there's a YouTube video out
29:24
there that's really fascinating called plants
29:26
are trying to kill you by Andrew Chaffee. And
29:29
he makes this reference back to Gundry about
29:34
40 minutes into his show and goes, you know,
29:37
this guy wrote two volumes of book and he is
29:40
so well respected in the cardiovascular industry
29:43
proving that plants are trying to kill you. He
29:46
goes, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have come to
29:48
the conclusion that lectins were the only problem
29:51
in the plant paradox world that he wrote. And
29:54
so he went on this kind of mission where he's
29:56
just going to eat carnivore and that we're at
29:59
the top of the food chain, we eat the animals,
30:01
the animals eat the plants, the plant, the animals
30:04
that we eat filter out any poisons that might
30:07
be present in the meat. And then we eat the meat
30:09
from the animals. And it was kind of, it was
30:11
really, that's how I kind of got into the whole,
30:13
the carnivore game about, I guess. Probably a
30:18
couple years ago, I heard about it eight years
30:21
ago, I just wasn't mentally ready. I was doing
30:23
some juicing things back then, and I've done
30:26
every diet under the sun. Well, this is very,
30:29
very fascinating food facts that you're giving
30:32
me. I love this so much. Let's talk about the
30:36
delicious piece of pop culture that you've consumed.
30:39
It could be a favorite TV show, movie, book,
30:41
play, podcast, like anything in pop culture that
30:44
you're loving that you want to share. So my daughter
30:46
and I have been, she's 14 and one, like I have
30:50
four kids and they kind of keep me updated with
30:55
different... things that are happening. All right.
30:57
So we're not a Swifty family. Uh, we're very
31:01
much into the superhero people, but, um, we just
31:06
watched the trilogy on the hunger games. Oh yeah.
31:10
And oh my gosh, that was like, That was great.
31:16
I think those movies came out like a decade or
31:18
so ago. You're talking about the one with Jennifer
31:20
Lawrence. Yeah. So I'm a little a day late, a
31:24
dollar short. You can tell I really focus a lot
31:29
on it. But essentially, we've been going through
31:32
watching trilogies and that was the latest trilogy
31:37
that we watched. And now we're looking at other
31:40
kind of movies. So now we're looking at Tron
31:43
Ares, Tron Legacy, you know, the original Tron.
31:47
I don't know if you got into any of those. Those
31:49
are older, but still ones that we just kind of
31:51
got into. And so, yeah, it's been, I could literally
31:56
take Tron Legacy and paint you some pictures
32:01
on what I do in my practice every day. And there's
32:06
this scene. That I mean truly I wish you could
32:10
just pull it up, but there's a scene when the
32:16
Flint they're they're inside. Have you seen this
32:19
movie Tron like no no no I was gonna ask if you
32:21
could explain what the Okay, okay, I'm just making
32:25
sure yeah, I was just making sure okay. This
32:27
would be a worthwhile Like endeavor, I think
32:31
yeah, have you ever heard of Daft Punk? I have,
32:33
yeah, yeah, yeah. Get Lucky, yeah, yeah. So,
32:36
Dakpong does the entire soundtrack for Tron Legacy,
32:42
which is the second Tron. The first one came
32:44
out in like late 80s and 90s, and it's kind of
32:47
like literally 8 -bit video game level. I mean,
32:49
if you like Tron, it's okay. I didn't love it.
32:53
It's not my favorite. But when Tron Legacy came
32:55
out, dude, I could watch it. I can watch it every
32:58
quarter. I mean, it's so cool of a movie, every
33:00
part of the movie. And what it is, it is about
33:03
what he calls bio -digital jazz. It is about
33:07
reshaping the human condition with microchips
33:12
and what they call the grid that is inside of
33:15
a computer. And so this guy spends his whole
33:18
life figuring out how to build bots, AI bots
33:21
inside of computers that essentially want out
33:25
of the computer and want to infiltrate the world.
33:28
So kind of a precursor to what we're going through
33:30
right now. Yeah, it's very, very fascinating.
33:34
Yeah, I like where your head's at. And so he
33:38
builds this bot inside of the grid, and he wants
33:42
this bot to build the perfect system. And as
33:47
you can imagine, humans aren't perfect and the
33:51
perfect system can't really be built, but this
33:53
guy is determined to build the perfect system
33:56
at whatever cost. Well, inside the grid, this
34:01
epiphany happens and these ISOs show up, which
34:05
are perfect beings that have like this kind of
34:09
bio digital jazz, this infiltration of CPU, but
34:14
yet DNA and somehow he's going to take this ISO
34:18
to the world and change science change Algorithms
34:23
change medicine change all aspects of how we
34:27
interact with our societies and worlds sort of
34:30
kind of like how we're in two different time
34:33
zones and yet we're having a great conversation
34:35
as if we're in the same room, right? Why was
34:37
there such a gap between the first and the second
34:39
Tron movies? You had mentioned the first one
34:41
was like eighties, nineties, and then the second
34:43
one came out when? Yeah, it was probably 2000.
34:47
13, I think. I'd have to just double check it.
34:50
But yeah, it was definitely late, late. And honestly,
34:54
I think it was just Disney picked it up and finally
34:57
got their hands on it. And as a matter of fact,
34:58
I was looking last night why one of the main
35:01
characters in Tron Legacy wasn't in the third
35:04
one, Ares. And it's because Disney decided to
35:07
completely just go a separate direction. They
35:09
just didn't go the same route they were heading.
35:12
And it was just a... a business decision, you
35:15
know what I mean? So I don't know, I guess business
35:17
decisions like that kind of happen. But anyway,
35:19
there's just one spot in the movie where the
35:22
girl, the ISO, she's the last of the ISO because
35:24
the perfect system bot destroys all the ISOs,
35:29
all the perfect creatures. And, um, and so there's
35:32
only one left and the, the guy, the main character,
35:36
Flynn, who's stuck in the side, the computer
35:38
can't get out. His son figures out a way to get
35:41
in and finds his dad who he hadn't seen in like
35:44
30 years. And so you can imagine the daddy issues
35:48
he was having. And then he finds his dad. He
35:52
finds the, he discovers the ISO. Well, the ISO
35:56
girl, she gets her arm cut off. the movie and
36:02
and so it kind of like puts her into like a comatose
36:04
state and the two lead characters are making
36:07
this run to get to this portal to take them into
36:11
the real world and while they're on their this
36:14
train on the top of this air train thing in the
36:17
cpu remember they're inside of a computer okay
36:19
and the dad goes check this out he takes her
36:24
little disc okay her dna disc and he opens it
36:29
up And it brings up a hologram of everything
36:32
that she's about. And the son realizes that she's
36:36
an ISO, that she's a perfect creature. And this
36:40
is why he said this was going to reshape the
36:43
human condition. And so he starts spinning the
36:46
disc or the hologram of her DNA and then just
36:50
keeps spiraling it until he finds the glitch
36:53
in her little matrix. And he like plucks out
36:56
that little glitch and just flicks it off and
36:58
it kind of floats off like a little flittery
37:00
butterfly. And it is so rad. And all of a sudden
37:04
he puts the disc back on and he goes, watch this.
37:08
And the arm grows back. Jeez. And so... I look
37:12
at a lot of what I do is finding the little glitch
37:17
that's inside the people that I work on and remove
37:22
that inflammatory burden, release that energy
37:26
pathway, open up that detox pathway, reconnect
37:30
cell structures so you get good cell to cell
37:32
communication from your head to your feet and
37:36
your toes to your nose. And all of a sudden you
37:39
start to see people with major health issues
37:44
that have lost hope. They can have skin problems.
37:47
They can have thyroid problems. They can have
37:49
cancers, dude. They can have every disease known
37:52
to man and all of a sudden their body begins
37:56
to make a shift and you just take a step back
38:00
and you keep tinkering and you keep cleaning
38:02
and you keep working and all of a sudden the
38:05
body begins to heal. and restore itself back
38:09
to ideal health. And that is bio -digital jazz.
38:14
That's what that whole movie, to me, is about
38:16
and why I like it so much, because it relates
38:18
to my life and my work. Did you make that connection
38:20
when you re -watched the Tron movies? Yes. I
38:23
think it was 2013. And so I had been in practice
38:28
at that point about seven years at that moment.
38:33
And when I saw that scene, I go, oh my gosh.
38:37
That's what I do every day is we're looking for
38:41
underlying root causes that keep people's body
38:44
locked in to a disease state. And it could be
38:49
medications that do that. It could be I've seen
38:53
scars. This one lady, she had over 60 different
38:57
injuries and or scarring episodes in her life.
39:01
And she had this disease called fibromyalgia,
39:05
which is essentially like pain everywhere okay
39:09
and inflammation galore and fatigue i mean it's
39:13
just a nasty inflammatory condition and I do
39:17
this technique called injury recall technique
39:20
in my office and literally by modulating the
39:24
atlas in the skull, that's the top cervical vertebra,
39:27
tinkering with the ankle bones, the talus, you
39:31
can reset the body into a state of healing called
39:35
rest and digest healing and repair. And you can
39:39
target old injury sites and remove glitches in
39:43
their little matrix. Well, she had quite a few.
39:46
And she had this fibro for, I don't know, 12
39:49
years or so before I got my hands on her. three
39:53
visits of clearing out all of those bio burdens,
39:57
her symptoms just dissipated. They just literally
39:59
went away. We didn't add a drug. We didn't, we
40:02
didn't do anything magical. We just reset her
40:05
system and showed her body that she's okay. And,
40:08
and the body, there's actually a great book called
40:10
the body keeps the score. So if you've had surgeries,
40:14
if you've had, you know, if you've got belly
40:16
button rings, if you've got tongue piercings,
40:19
tattoos, all these things are body traumas, right?
40:23
If you've been, if you've had broken bones, like
40:26
my wife, her collarbone is broken when she came
40:28
out of the womb. We were able to pull that up
40:31
onto her hologram and clear that and the body
40:35
keeps the score. And the more trash and burdens
40:38
your body has, the more susceptible you are to
40:42
an inability to adapt to your surroundings. That
40:44
means you have more food allergies or you're
40:47
more prone to, you know, biochemical from new
40:52
building material, new car smells, like people
40:54
that get migraines when they walk down the perfy
40:56
mile or they walk into bed bath and beyond. And
40:58
they're like, I love this place and hate it at
41:00
the same time. You know what I mean? And so all
41:03
that stuff are symptom triggers that we pay attention
41:07
to. It can help people understand why their body
41:09
is breaking down. So that movie blew me away.
41:12
And so I wonder if you found any relation to
41:14
your work with the Hunger Games, because the
41:16
Hunger Games I feel like is like survival of
41:18
the fittest. Eat your fellow human being if you
41:22
need to to stay alive, I don't know. I think
41:25
that one was more of just the, what was the reality
41:32
that we are sort of living out in a game show,
41:37
even in our current world, right? It seems like
41:40
we all are doing our best to survive and we're
41:43
all essentially, in my work, I would tell you
41:47
that like, You would think that we're all for
41:51
each other, right? But in all reality, oftentimes
41:54
you find that we eat our own. Like we don't really
41:57
support each other. And any industry is probably
41:59
that way. But it's just fascinating. Like I'm
42:03
trying to unite people and get more people tied
42:07
together. Shared goals build unity. And in the
42:11
Bible, it talks about like the sick will be with
42:13
you always. and don't split hairs on what I'm
42:16
trying to unite, Jesus said. And so I'm like
42:19
always trying to find a way to create unity.
42:22
And I'm not perfect at it by any means, but I
42:24
mean, it's a striving moment. But yeah, so Hunger
42:29
Games really kind of pointed this kind of picture
42:33
to like, hey, look, if we left to a socialistic
42:36
way, this is life, where we might be voluntold
42:40
to go into a game show and have to kill kids.
42:43
old people at whatever cost in order to live.
42:48
And I feel like it's really, I don't know, it
42:53
actually kind of hit a little bit closer to home
42:54
to go. That's sort of the world we live in in
42:57
a weird metaphorical way. Yeah. So thank you
43:01
for recommending the Tron movies. I definitely
43:03
have to dive into it. It certainly seems like
43:06
a watch. The Hunger Games, I remember watching
43:08
the movies in theaters with my family, and I
43:10
think I was like the only one that wasn't into
43:12
it at all. I know it was like during that young
43:14
adult novel time where we were crazy about that
43:18
sort of story. So I'll definitely have to rewatch
43:21
and look at it from the lens of the world we
43:24
live in today. I think it'll definitely be thought
43:26
provoking. Yeah. How old are you now? I'm 34.
43:30
Yeah. So I mean, you, and you've had enough life
43:33
experience at this point that I think you would
43:37
definitely see some like cultural trends that
43:41
might go, Oh, that's interesting. You know what
43:43
I mean? And then you might just kind of paint
43:45
the pictures of, of kind of where, where it'd
43:48
be interesting. I would love for you to watch
43:50
it. We should get back online and just see what
43:52
you find out. Cause you know, I'd be curious
43:53
because you and I live in two different parts
43:55
of the country. You know, like we might have
43:57
a different vantage point on how we see it. Yeah,
44:00
absolutely. How about a delicious thing that's
44:06
happened in your life lately, a positive thing,
44:08
anything in your life that you are beaming about
44:11
that you would like to share with us to wrap
44:13
up here? Well, man, so my daughter, Kinley, has
44:17
been in Arkansas for the last year at a gap year
44:20
school, which is essentially a school that a
44:23
kid would go to if they're not quite ready for
44:25
college, but doesn't need to be at home and they're
44:29
still trying to kind of... figure their way a
44:31
little bit. And it was a really good, it has
44:35
been a great school program for her. She learned
44:37
a lot of media, social media, videography, editing,
44:40
and she learned a lot about life and how to just
44:45
live on her own at a distance. So she's about
44:47
eight hours from us. And so we really haven't
44:50
seen her much and we get to go and get her. next
44:55
week. And so I'm very excited because I miss
45:00
you know, you don't realize how much you love
45:02
your kids until they're they've been gone. Yeah.
45:05
And and so I again have four children. So I still
45:08
have three to keep me company and watch movies
45:11
with. I actually I don't you can't really tell
45:13
right now, but actually I'm healing from a black
45:16
eye right here. Oh, this might be a delicious
45:18
moment. This is bad to the bone. You ready? So
45:21
Tuesday, I was having a day, dude. It was a,
45:23
it was just a stressful day. We're going through
45:26
a lot of office transitions and you know, change
45:28
is always challenging. And so not so delicious.
45:32
So I knew I needed to be back at the office,
45:34
you know, uh, to help my team close. And, uh,
45:39
I went home. And I was just kind of like zoned
45:41
out like, oh my God, I don't want to go back.
45:44
And my daughter, my 14 year old Lexi goes, dude,
45:48
why don't you go play basketball with Dash? And
45:51
I'm like, man, that's the last thing I want to
45:52
do. Like I'm just pissed. You know what I mean?
45:54
If I'm just being honest. Dash goes, yeah, let's
45:56
go play ball. I'm like, okay. He's 17. So you
45:59
can, you know, he's strong. He's extraordinarily
46:02
talented. He's five foot 11 and he can dunk double
46:06
hand forward backwards. He's, he's, he's Great
46:11
athlete. And I'm like, fine. So we go out there
46:14
and I'm not really talkative because I'm pissy,
46:17
you know? But for whatever reason, dude, I am
46:20
on fire, dude. I can't miss a bucket. cash, money,
46:26
dude. I'm like, green, you know, Kobe. Maybe
46:30
you just weren't like thinking about it so much.
46:32
Maybe you were just like, all right, let's do
46:34
it and just let your body move to the moment.
46:36
Yeah. And that's exactly right. So I smoke him
46:39
the first game. Like it was like 11 to four or
46:42
something. And so he was like, all right, rematch.
46:45
And dad just whipped me. And and so I'm like,
46:48
all right, let's do it again. So now I'm kind
46:50
of like loosened up. He's banged on me a little
46:52
bit. So I'm kind of like, you know, Good rattled,
46:55
you know loose and it was good for me. Well,
46:57
I'm I'm Ripping it again like to the point that
47:03
I'm like, dude, you're about to get skunked seven
47:05
nothing, dude You better figure something out
47:07
quick faster. Hurry cuz I am NOT letting up I'm
47:10
determined to whip yo butt And so he did finally
47:15
get a point or two on me. It was 11 to 2 or 11
47:18
to 3 I still beat him bad. So he's now now he's
47:21
a little bit like come on dead like one more
47:24
I don't got time I got I only had 30 minutes
47:26
so these are like 10 minute games you know what
47:28
I mean and so this last game in his mind this
47:32
is what I determined after the game he's determined
47:34
if he can at least dunk on me it'll make it all
47:37
the while You know what I mean? Because he knows
47:40
I've got his number today. And it doesn't always
47:43
work out that way. And I'm celebrating. This
47:46
is my delicious moment for sure. But no word
47:49
of a lie, dude. He is actually winning seven
47:53
to six and he's about to dunk this basketball.
47:55
He gets around me and I'm like, oh hell. You
47:58
know what I mean? I am not letting this punk
48:02
dunk on me, you know what I mean? And he does
48:05
dunk on me, but I went up after him to try to
48:07
stop him, and his elbow just, bam, right on that,
48:11
bam. Oh, bro. Got right in your eye. It hurts
48:15
so bad. It hurts so bad that literally, like,
48:20
instant adrenaline rage just came through my
48:23
whole body, and I'm just like... Like, I just
48:26
want to, like... go to war, man. And I'm not
48:29
really like an aggressive human by any stretch,
48:32
but in that moment, he knew he hurt me. And he
48:35
goes, you all right? You all right? You all right?
48:36
And I said, just give me a second. Just give
48:38
me a second. And I just had to release my grip,
48:40
man. I just had to release it. And once it released,
48:42
I was fine. He goes, you need to stop? And I'm
48:44
like, no. We're going to finish this. Yeah, we're
48:47
going to keep on going. I'm not going to let
48:49
a little black guy get me down. And so I went
48:52
on to beat him. I think it was 13, 11, went by
48:57
two. And then I got to the office and by the
49:00
time I got to the office, man, the thing I was
49:04
looking down at my phone, I could see it swelling
49:06
up. It was nuts. So anyway, for the last week,
49:10
everybody's been like, what happened to your
49:11
eye? Your wife hit you in the face. What's going
49:13
down? Marriage counseling. I was like, y 'all
49:19
need to go back to marriage school. So now that
49:21
was awesome. So yeah, that, that would probably
49:23
be my big highlight of the week is something
49:25
just kind of fun and cool. Pretty delicious as
49:29
well. Yeah. So your son has learned, do not try
49:31
to get a game going with dad when he doesn't
49:33
feel like playing because he'll smoke. He'll
49:35
show you his boss. That's right. We will lay
49:37
it down. That's for sure. Oh my God. And then,
49:40
uh, I think you said the daughter that's coming
49:42
home for, uh, so she's eight hours away. Where
49:44
is she based exactly? So I'm in Texas, she's
49:47
in Arkansas. And so next Wednesday, her, my father
49:51
-in -law, and my son are going up to get her.
49:54
I'm flying up on Friday and then we'll all bring
49:58
her home on Sunday. Yeah. So it'd be good. And
50:02
then, and then, you know, I have two other daughters
50:04
and like I said, I have one that's jamming volleyball
50:07
who I guess another little delicious moment.
50:09
Kids really do bring a lot of joy to my world.
50:12
Do you have kids? No, not yet. No, we're hoping
50:14
to have some. Yeah. Okay. Well, this will be,
50:16
let me, let me tell you, you got a second. I'll
50:18
just tell you some stories. So, um, my 14 year
50:23
old literally She's a natural born leader and
50:26
to the point that it annoys her when people don't
50:29
do their job on the volleyball court or they
50:31
don't, you know, participate like they're supposed
50:33
to. And finally, I had to get to conversation
50:36
with her. I said, look, babe, just, you might
50:37
as well embrace the fact that you're a bleeder
50:39
and like your, your name means defender on a
50:44
hill. You better get ready. You know what I mean?
50:46
And the sooner you embrace it. I'll help you
50:49
teach you to kind of navigate those things. You
50:52
will thrive in all, you know, sex of life, right?
50:55
I mean, you will like make it through the journey.
50:58
And well, she just got accepted or abided to
51:01
go to nationals unexpectedly in volleyball and
51:05
in Arizona. So you're going to get to go see
51:09
the cactus. That's kind of cool and very unexpected.
51:12
That just happened two nights ago. And then my
51:14
youngest. daughter, Ellie. She's like my oldest
51:18
is bookend. I mean, they're like two little angels
51:22
and she is a natural, natural actor. And so she
51:27
keeps getting these parts in these high school
51:29
plays and she's in elementary. She's literally
51:32
made friends with all the high school kids and
51:35
all the high school kids and the director of
51:38
the shows want her in their shows because she's
51:40
so fun. What parts has she done? Do you know
51:42
what parts in what plays? Yeah, so she, see if
51:47
I can remember the cowboy play. Well, so she
51:53
just got a part in Lion King, Prince of Egypt.
51:57
They're doing this Pride and Prejudice show,
52:01
and so she's gonna get to be one of the little
52:02
sisters. I love that. And so, but again, these
52:06
are like... you know, cool parts and they're
52:08
like really unique. She literally just kind of
52:10
just lands these little, these spots that are
52:13
teaching her a lot of really cool things about
52:15
acting and what it takes to do drama and stuff
52:18
of that nature, which is really rad. So the thing
52:20
I'll leave you with is this. So I've had four
52:22
kids and they've all been born naturally at home.
52:27
or in a birthing center, like with a midwife.
52:30
And again, so I'm a pretty, we're a pretty crunchy
52:32
family, you know, meaning we're very, very alternative.
52:36
We don't even have Tylenol in our house. And
52:38
so the first Kenley was born submerged completely
52:43
underwater. That is the most surreal experience
52:47
of a person's life to see a birth, partially
52:51
born, the head is out. of the womb underwater,
52:54
but not technically alive yet. That's a very,
52:58
very burned on my image. It is awesome. That's
53:02
the coolest thing. And so that was Kenley's birth.
53:04
We were actually at the zoo the very next day.
53:08
I mean, like, so this is how quickly the recovery
53:11
was and stuff like that. Pretty rad. No drugs,
53:13
nothing. The second kid came out so fast. That's
53:17
Dash. His name is Dash. And he came out so fast.
53:21
That's why we named him Dash. He literally shot
53:23
out like a torpedo. We didn't even have time.
53:26
We had the water ran to have another birth in
53:29
the water, but no, no, he came out so fast that
53:32
literally the midwife is sliding into my house
53:36
at three in the morning, throwing her bag to
53:40
me. And I'm scrambling, looking for stuff that
53:43
she told me to look for. And she's like, forget
53:46
it, Aaron, get over here. I need you to catch
53:51
the baby. Oh my gosh. And I'm like, Oh, okay.
53:58
So it was so awesome. Great experience. My wife
54:01
says, um, I'm pretty sure I'm never going to
54:05
do that again. Understandable. You know what
54:09
I mean? Cause he came out so fast. I mean, he
54:12
looked like he was in a boxing match. Okay. So.
54:15
Yeah. Wow. That's beautiful. That's beautiful.
54:18
Like the way your kids came into the world like
54:20
that. Um, and, and the one that's an actor, I'm
54:22
an, I'm an actor as well, so I can totally relate
54:24
to, uh, you know, the fun of doing theater productions
54:27
and just that response from the audience. Um,
54:29
volleyball, I love volleyball. I mean, it's been
54:32
like a few years since I played, um, I think
54:34
summer vacation with my family in Cape Cod and
54:36
Massachusetts was the last time that I recreationally
54:38
played, but I literally saw like a bunch of guys
54:41
play volleyball the other day at this place called
54:44
waterfront park here in Vermont. And it just
54:46
seems like one of those sports where you can
54:48
just kind of like let loose, have fun, get your
54:51
exercise going. And so that's wonderful that
54:54
you have a kid there that's really good at volleyball.
54:56
Yeah. And well, you know, it's, and she, her
54:59
birth was probably the most magical. I mean,
55:01
it was 80 % in the water, 20 % in a bedroom.
55:06
And my oldest, Kenley, was Helped me deliver.
55:10
You know what I mean? And then the last one the
55:14
little actor my oldest codder my middle -dash
55:18
got to cut the cord and my third Got to clean
55:23
her up and take care of her and still today is
55:26
kind of like her mommy And so Lexi always takes
55:28
care of everything. We always say Lexi rules
55:31
the house Ellie Oh, no, Lexi runs the house Ellie
55:36
rules the house the littlest one rules but my
55:39
third one runs it. That's beautiful. That's so
55:42
beautiful. Well, Dr. Anne Schapa, this was a
55:44
great conversation. Tell us how we can keep in
55:46
touch with you, especially people who want to
55:49
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55:52
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56:31
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56:36
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and share fun stories like we just did today.
56:44
So thank you for that. It's very wonderful for
56:46
me even to take a step back and just reflect
56:49
on how blessed I am to be a part of a life that
56:55
has been so rich with memory. And so I pray that
56:59
other people have and appreciate. Memories and
57:03
you know best three vitamins in the world for
57:06
me vitamin J Jesus vitamin G gratitude and vitamin
57:10
A Abundance, baby. Let's go get it. All right.
57:13
I love that for you. That's that's so great That
57:15
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57:53
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57:56
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57:58
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58:00
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58:02
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