Latest / After-Hours with Faction! Motorsports / #48 - Reese Marin of Drift School Evergreen
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- 0:00Alright, welcome back to another episode of faction.
- 0:03Motorsports after-hours podcast on today's episode.
- 0:07We have Reese Marin of drift School Evergreen.
- 0:11I've known Reese for about 10 years now.
- 0:13He's a club loose, dude. So, he was, I think he was, he
- 0:17was there when I started, so I've known him, my entire
- 0:20drifting career, he's an awesome guy.
- 0:23He always would always give us pointers and stuff like that.
- 0:26He's spotted for a couple FD teams.
- 0:29He definitely knows he knows what's up when it comes to
- 0:32Drifting. So we decided I mean he should
- 0:35definitely have his own episode, so we brought him in and it was
- 0:39awesome. I had a really good time on this
- 0:41one. I think everyone else did as
- 0:42well. Thank you to Res for driving all
- 0:45the way over here. He lives in Philly but his
- 0:47girlfriend lives in New Hampshire so he made you know,
- 0:50he made it work in between coming back from there, so
- 0:53really appreciate it. If you guys want to check him
- 0:55out, make sure you check out a pre-sumerian on Instagram or you
- 0:59check out his drift school which is just drift School Evergreen.
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- 3:19Yeah. Have to do the intro every time.
- 3:20Yeah, it's like ritual. I feel like that that and lets
- 3:23me know we're going. So, welcome everybody to the
- 3:25faction after-hours podcast. This one is actually
- 3:27pre-recorded. We have a guest, don't say a
- 3:30number because it might not be that number.
- 3:33R. You just said it's pre-recorded.
- 3:36I wasn't even thinking about number but usually, you're
- 3:38always like number 45. Yeah.
- 3:40That's because it's kind of impressive.
- 3:42We have a guest today. What are you guys up to her?
- 3:44And I have no idea. 46. Yeah, I would say.
- 3:48Yeah. So we have we have Reese.
- 3:50Marin here, we have Reese Marin in the building.
- 3:55I know you as an instructor at wat first.
- 3:58I met you at Club loose and then I find out that you're also an
- 4:01instructor at Evergreen. Yeah.
- 4:04Which is, which are both establishments that I love.
- 4:07So, it's nice to have you on here. - thanks.
- 4:09I appreciate it. I was pretty funny because I was
- 4:11like, I just brought re-sign because I mean we known each
- 4:13other for like literally 10 years now probably.
- 4:15So you've probably seen Frankie grow.
- 4:18That's kind of wild. Yes, I was short like hair.
- 4:21Why's everybody like look, young remember action and Front
- 4:25Street, they're all like really young nerds.
- 4:28Yeah. And now we got em.
- 4:29Now where they are washed on, they want that final bout this
- 4:32past weekend. Oh yeah.
- 4:34Yeah, good job. Good job guys.
- 4:36I got to watch that. I had the pleasure of watching
- 4:38that I was grilling burgers at the last turn.
- 4:40It was fantastic was pretty cool.
- 4:42Dude we were there. Chilling beers Out, burgers are
- 4:46on the grill Bacon's on their everyone is watching Final bout
- 4:49and we're like just a little more elevated than them and
- 4:52we're just fucking having a great time fucking just
- 4:56literally just watching Final vows just a fun as day and the
- 4:59weather was beautiful. It's definitely a different vibe
- 5:01for sure. I like there was a good energy
- 5:03in Is cool. That's really nice.
- 5:05That there's a that there's like that genre drifting definitely
- 5:09exists. It's it's really needed.
- 5:10Yeah. She's an American jurist.
- 5:11Have you made it to a final bout you?
- 5:13Because I know you always been trying to go.
- 5:15I think I know. No, never right into an actual
- 5:18fun. I feel like every time we talk
- 5:20before, a final bout of enters, like I'm trying to go and trying
- 5:23to go and then, yeah, that never lines up and never learns up and
- 5:25it's just, I guess being in it and a different aspect and a
- 5:28different genre. Okay.
- 5:29Yeah, because there are so many, like, I think that's what's so
- 5:32great about America. There's like, so, So many
- 5:34subcultures are drinking that exist.
- 5:36Yeah, that's the coast. Definitely, the subculture that
- 5:38I like the most, like there wasn't a car there where I
- 5:40wasn't like, like, that looks kind of weird.
- 5:44Like I had experienced a lot of first at this final bout.
- 5:49I met this guy one. I think his name on Instagram is
- 5:53relaxed. Amigo, he's One driver.
- 5:56On really low on dude, low is a fucking understatement.
- 5:59This guy has to fucking undo the coilover.
- 6:01Shut up one, he's a pod listener.
- 6:03Actually was like one there's a few people that said hi to me
- 6:06and he was, he was one of them and to find on my Instagram that
- 6:10shit is like, notched trans tunnel and ended, the diff is
- 6:13like rate. I was like, it was like a whole,
- 6:17like, a Tumblr type of blog thing or video explaining how he
- 6:20does it all. It's like she was crazy but it
- 6:23strikes me Wars. Dude, I wrote in his car relax I
- 6:28wrote in his car and shit and we're going down the
- 6:30straightaway or whatever where you enter and I was like this
- 6:33Doesn't sound like an Sr. What is I was just assuming it
- 6:36was an Sr, bro. N AKA.
- 6:38Yeah. Yeah, they got they placed.
- 6:41I was like, yo, that's wow. Yeah.
- 6:43Like it's like Lola rippin. And then I wrote in a Miata that
- 6:48felt unsafe. What up for Shetty?
- 6:51That felt really unsafe. I was like, where's the rest of
- 6:55the car? I said it like seven times.
- 6:57I was like, dude. This Different just waving my
- 7:01hands in the air. It just felt so crazy.
- 7:04It was. Yeah, they're super Nimble, fun
- 7:05as hell. I feel like I would enjoy
- 7:07driving one of those but yeah, shout out Roadstar they had,
- 7:10they had a good time with them. Everything that I see from there
- 7:13is good. It's, you know, and definitely a
- 7:16big shout-out to just how much better the driving has gotten
- 7:19like, yeah, because in the beginning, when I first saw find
- 7:21about, like, I thought it was trash.
- 7:23I was like, this, this driving is horrible.
- 7:24Yeah, that's what a lot of people from the East Coast you
- 7:26thinking. I was like, what is this?
- 7:28Yeah, but I was like, all right. Can't be trash forever, you
- 7:31know? Yeah.
- 7:32And then over the years, I got better and better and now it's
- 7:36like damn, this is sick. Now, what do you have something
- 7:38to do with having people from around the country?
- 7:42Coming to that one track US Air and like driving on it.
- 7:46It probably forced all the people around there to be like,
- 7:48okay, we gotta like steps and shit up.
- 7:50Yeah, I mean, I think, I think just over time people are just
- 7:54going to naturally want to get better.
- 7:56Yeah. You know what I mean?
- 7:57And I think that's something a good example of that was fine.
- 7:59Know about. Like I said the first one I was
- 8:01just like it looks really cool. I remember I saw the video and
- 8:04the intro was like sick and then when you actually got to see
- 8:08like the driving cause I really wasn't like but I was like
- 8:10alright this hassle is like the first or second one.
- 8:12Yeah, my we can't judge these people offer that even though we
- 8:15totally did at the moment because it's the East Coast
- 8:17thing to do. Yeah.
- 8:18What is not in below? You know, I mean, but then over
- 8:20the years it got better and better and better.
- 8:22And now that you watch all the driving, you're like, this is
- 8:25what's up, this is she looks crazy.
- 8:27I was like goddamn like this is really happening.
- 8:30I'm four hours from home. It was in Crazy, far.
- 8:33Probably know you're in a different country.
- 8:34Dude, definitely thought I was somewhere else, but have you
- 8:38driven that truck? Yeah, you did.
- 8:41Okay. Fun track or drift week and
- 8:43different variations of it over the years because before
- 8:47instructing like I drove the ton.
- 8:49Well I was gonna ask you about that kind of like where you
- 8:52because you're mentioning when you're talking about final bout
- 8:55you were talking a lot about the very first one.
- 8:57Yeah I didn't even know about drifting back then.
- 8:59I feel like No, I definitely did not enjoy start 2016.
- 9:03In 2005 2015, 2016 2005 is when you started drifting order than
- 9:09Club, loose pluck me off the streets.
- 9:12Like in 2007 you you mentioned earlier hop, found you, or you
- 9:18guys, you guys ran into hop and and stone back in South Philly.
- 9:24Street drifting, I don't know how many years it was a long.
- 9:27We were very young that sounds sick until they weren't Sitting
- 9:30here like are these dudes aren't from around here?
- 9:32They just went there to drift? Yeah, there's just some server
- 9:34because it showed up, you know me but then and now it's like
- 9:37you look back and it's like these are people that I ended up
- 9:39like having friendships with for so many.
- 9:42So many years that's competing against styles of like that
- 9:46hanging out with Brian. Yeah, Sergeant him turn into a
- 9:48great driver now. So you see that was also early
- 9:52on in your drifting career. I was like, 2,000 has to be like
- 9:542006-2007. Hmm.
- 9:57Yeah, that's better. Yeah, it's possible.
- 9:59Either me, we have the AC on today but I'm realizing that
- 10:02it's not really working out with the audio.
- 10:04So it's cooler in here everybody.
- 10:06I complained earlier. Yeah, but it come back once they
- 10:09all left, once a once it warms up a little, turn it back on.
- 10:13But yeah, we're going to figure that out.
- 10:14We'll use your ambient. We'll just tell Dan ambient
- 10:17temperature. Yeah, because dude, I feel like
- 10:20we Malcolm day me. Run this shit like last summer.
- 10:23Wait, yeah. Because we started in July,
- 10:26yeah. July.
- 10:27Right June. So it must've been hot as fuck.
- 10:30Yeah. So there must be a way to do it.
- 10:31I don't know what's going on today but I'm alright with the
- 10:34temperature. It could be worse.
- 10:35Yeah, I'm just I'm trying to fucking figure this out for the
- 10:38future. I'm like, fuck are we gonna do
- 10:40this? But what was your first car race
- 10:42drift car? Yeah.
- 10:43Oh my first car. Nobody will ever guess.
- 10:45My first car, my first car was given to me for free from a good
- 10:50friend of mine. From a friend of a friend, your
- 10:52drift car or your cars, cars, car car.
- 10:54Okay. But it's cool because it was a
- 10:55stick shift, there was a okay the manual, okay.
- 10:58Ford Escort. GT what the hatch looking thing
- 11:02or was it like a second body kit on it from fighting a shit about
- 11:06cars back? Then I was just like ours I
- 11:07don't know anything about escorts but I didn't know I
- 11:10looked into it was like a Mazda engine on some crazy shit was
- 11:13like, but it was sick, you know, learn how to drive stick shift
- 11:16in and like, it was awesome. I had no idea what it was.
- 11:19I wish I would have kept it. Now that I know that it was just
- 11:22what was wrong with. It was just like an axe, so I
- 11:24could affect but I'm not sure back on and I mean and then I
- 11:27got into I heard about your Thing, how'd you hear about it
- 11:31and I shall do. Mmm.
- 11:33Damn, it, was it just came out? No, they came out of nowhere.
- 11:37Yeah, that was. Yeah, it was, I think there are
- 11:40a couple Seasons already in a couple stages and already.
- 11:42Okay. And my friend was invited me
- 11:44over to watch a, some sort of boxing out of my butt.
- 11:47But when I walked in, he had drifting one and that was it.
- 11:50Yeah, whoa! Whoa, that's so cliche.
- 11:53Damn, I like that. You're able to pinpoint that
- 11:55situate that that moment though. Yo, because like when I first
- 11:59got into drifting, I was fucking bro.
- 12:01Damn like there wasn't like I never got into cars because like
- 12:07not that we were bro. It's just, I don't know.
- 12:09It's like being from the city. It's, you were just kind of like
- 12:13Philadelphia, not New York. If you know, some people look
- 12:16really good clarification being from Philadelphia, I was just
- 12:20into playing basketball as into doing all that you didn't even
- 12:23think about having a car. Nobody had cars in high school.
- 12:25Yeah. Like my whole upper room was
- 12:26very, very different. Yeah, you know, I mean, so I
- 12:28don't even think about I thought, All I thought about was
- 12:30like jumping on the buses, or taking the train anywhere.
- 12:33I need to go to go play basketball, basketball, don't
- 12:35cost that much money. So no, it did not.
- 12:37Yeah, you know, unless you roll an ankle, which is what happens
- 12:39to every time which I did planning is the reason I stopped
- 12:42and the fact that I realize I was going to grow any taller
- 12:43than 58. So I was like to say, I realized
- 12:46that early on, I didn't make it on my high school basketball
- 12:48team and I was like, that's it. That was it?
- 12:50But it was cool. I had a nice roast and I play
- 12:51with a bunch of the an one guys for a little bit.
- 12:54You doing a lot of. Yeah, I was doing all that I was
- 12:56cross cross though. I was I was going into like West
- 13:00Philly for a while. My buddy was the one who take
- 13:03me. Damn, you honestly, you probably
- 13:05who pooped. Yeah.
- 13:06The fuck aren't 100%. Yeah, I wanted to West Philly,
- 13:10went to this place called the pit was very scary.
- 13:12I was very young but I could play and they didn't look at me,
- 13:15like, I was white, they look to me like I was Latino.
- 13:17So at the time in of the air and in that time frame, it worked
- 13:22out, you know, and so 22nd and Somerset.
- 13:26That's like that's Connie Mack basketball core 16 in Somerset.
- 13:29But these are all like people that know, basketball know, like
- 13:32I would go there and try to play at those play and then I
- 13:35realized like all my friends, got way taller than me.
- 13:36Jump higher than me were blocking my shot.
- 13:38How old were you when your doing this hardcore was like 13 to 18
- 13:4419? Okay.
- 13:45Damn you played for a couple years.
- 13:47Yeah, I was I thought I was going to this was it I'm like oh
- 13:49go to Temple University or I'll go to like strangers and I'm
- 13:52thinking like I'm going to do this.
- 13:53Wow I never knew that. Yeah, I was really like I didn't
- 13:55give a fuck about cars not at all whatever.
- 13:59Whatever. As long as I can go play ball, I
- 14:01was happy as long as I can go to Rucker Park in New York and
- 14:04Harlem. I was happy.
- 14:06Yeah, but quickly realize I wasn't a thing, drifting
- 14:10happened, and then dude, I'm all my friends from high school,
- 14:13tell you, they, never, ever, ever would have thought I'd be
- 14:17doing what I'm doing. Yeah, because they tell them,
- 14:19I'm a different person. That's kind of, that's crazy.
- 14:21I love hearing that just because you never know who's going to
- 14:24come up and do whatever it is. The next thing is, you know, you
- 14:29never, I fucking know, and it was a struggle.
- 14:31I mean, tell my parents like I don't want to do college
- 14:33anymore, only dangerous thing. Like it was answer, they're
- 14:36immigrants or they're just like, what the fuck are you doing?
- 14:38Yeah. So now you fast-forward, you
- 14:43went all the way you mentioned. You went all the way to 19
- 14:45playing basketball. Hmm.
- 14:47So, where was like, the crossover where you were like,
- 14:52all right, I'm gonna drift. Um, dude, I don't I when I
- 14:58realized, That like I got injured, I messed up my ankle
- 15:02and I really see it started really thinking, like I'm not
- 15:04gonna be able to play basketball like I couldn't physically.
- 15:06I just wasn't there. You know what I mean?
- 15:08Like obviously, I look way more fit back then, you know what I
- 15:10mean. You look at Ya.
- 15:14So I just knew that wasn't going to happen.
- 15:16I mean so I'm just like and then really I was just hanging out
- 15:20with my buddies. I have I've always had this
- 15:23fascination with anime, my first anime that I ever watched was
- 15:26like the Ronin Warriors. That's what got me into it and
- 15:28then Dragon Ball and then the rest is history, Initial D
- 15:32happened. And then I know, I guess, like
- 15:34subconsciously I was looking for something else because I
- 15:37realized basketball wasn't going to happen, Okay?
- 15:40And then that kind of just fueled it and when I got, when I
- 15:43found my buddies, my Cambodian friends that were into it, it
- 15:47just kind of just fueled it more today have cars and shit.
- 15:50They were the yeah they Had like, you know, back then they
- 15:52were the first ones, I had like, the strawberry faces, they had a
- 15:55Sylvia's, they had all of that shit back down.
- 15:58So like I got to see that in front of my bacon, my family has
- 16:00a Colombian Bakery in North Philly.
- 16:02And so, are you still there? Yeah.
- 16:04It's still there facts. And they used to all work around
- 16:06the corner. So I would see these two 40s
- 16:09over the time and then I made the connection with initial day.
- 16:12I'm like wow it's so crazy like this is a sweetie, who would
- 16:14have thought? Yeah, so then I got to live that
- 16:17life when I eventually got a 240 back then they were like 700
- 16:20bucks where they drew. They were Trot tempting to this
- 16:23is back when we didn't know anything.
- 16:24We thought we needed violist. He's when we could have just
- 16:26welded we didn't know. We could just weld back on.
- 16:28Yeah we didn't go anywhere. So green in the sport and but we
- 16:32got to go midnight and Crews all around South Philly and nobody
- 16:35was integer thing. Everybody thought it was stupid
- 16:37back then. So we got cream of the crop.
- 16:38Nobody thought it was us racing. They would just say don't you
- 16:41the cops just I was a bunch of idiots doing donuts when reality
- 16:44were trying to learn how to drift.
- 16:45Yeah these parking lots that's fucking kind of how it was for
- 16:48me too. It's sick.
- 16:50I mean every once in a while we'll get busted.
- 16:51What are you doing, Bob? Look what the fuck.
- 16:53But, like, for the most part I got to live like that area of
- 16:57just cruising with your buddies. 3:00 4:00 in the morning, you're
- 17:00the only people out there, the only two 40s out there in
- 17:02Philadelphia doing that. Like I know for a fact back then
- 17:05it was me and a select few, were the only ones doing that in
- 17:08Philadelphia? And for me that was that was
- 17:11sick. You know, there's like this
- 17:12little section of Philadelphia, I don't know.
- 17:16I went to school to in South Jersey, every time I went to
- 17:18Philadelphia it was to drink except for like a field trip in
- 17:22the sixth grade but like you didn't drink on that one.
- 17:25No. No combing.
- 17:26Fucking loser. Just kidding Carl but eat a
- 17:31dick. Frank laughs.
- 17:34I don't even drink. We you fucking bitch.
- 17:40It's honestly it's a rare occasion.
- 17:42I feel like it hurts my body so I try not to but if I'm feeling
- 17:45it On it. I'm just pussy.
- 17:47We went and well, I appreciate that.
- 17:50Our drink like one or two and I become like, white girl wasted.
- 17:52It's horrible, it's amazing some bears.
- 17:53No, no, it's lit because now, you don't have to shove so much
- 17:56volume into your body and, you know, same effect, I just don't
- 18:00remember, I'm like crazy. I'd Rather somebody drop it shit
- 18:04in your drink that. I'm just, I love how I just
- 18:07distract everyone from what. There's no, I just try Min once
- 18:10in a while and just fucking throw Philadelphia the
- 18:12Philadelphia spot because I remember I was driving there.
- 18:14And there was this, the most Most beautiful hair pin, it had
- 18:18a wall to like, it was a walled hairpin.
- 18:21It was pretty steep. He's probably knows it.
- 18:23And I was like, hmm. Like and this is, I told you I
- 18:26got in a drifting around, like, 2016, 15, something like that.
- 18:30And I looked at that and I was like, damn, this looks sick, but
- 18:34it's very traffic right now. I feel like it wouldn't be
- 18:37doable and there was a lot of trees around.
- 18:39So I don't know if that's like a nature part of Philadelphia.
- 18:41Oh, you're probably talking about found that part.
- 18:43So it was, it might have been in a park.
- 18:46Yeah. It's I mean, yeah, there's
- 18:47there's places I'm sure there's been people have done that.
- 18:49Maybe we have done it, it was a beaut and them, right?
- 18:53Have been another turn like right after it's probably about
- 18:55by Fairmount Park. That's yeah.
- 18:58Damn. I like a lot of these places get
- 18:59drifted anymore. No way.
- 19:00No snow, no shot. It was a very trafficked area
- 19:04and I was like, damn. This is that?
- 19:05Yeah, no way Phil, he's a big fucking City, man.
- 19:08Yeah. If you know how to like at least
- 19:10back then like we would like hold these huge meets in South
- 19:13Philly between we call them the The meats and eyes, everything
- 19:17always Ikea. It's a big parking lot,
- 19:19literally a yeah, it's always Ikea.
- 19:22They got good lighting to always.
- 19:24Yeah. And they were next to Linens and
- 19:25things in South Philly, and it's like this Linens place.
- 19:29So then you get Linens and things.
- 19:31Yeah, lemons. And they was, yeah, it was
- 19:32great. Great marketing.
- 19:35And it was a huge lot, but they had like this one run up that
- 19:38would dump out into the slot. So that's where we would
- 19:40appreciate from. Oh, it was sick.
- 19:43It was it was sick to do that but like we didn't know.
- 19:45That's where Club loose came in. Like, what the fuck are you
- 19:47doing? You're going to mess it up
- 19:48because, you know, we're we don't give a damn.
- 19:50We spending money to go to the truck was like that's unheard
- 19:53of, you know? I mean and then eventually all
- 19:56converted and actually started going and Club loose and then we
- 19:59started really learning how to drive.
- 20:00When did you guys start going to Club loose 2007?
- 20:03I remember they told me like come to a clinic and if you
- 20:06don't learn anything at the clinic, you can go back and do
- 20:08whatever shit you're doing. Yeah, I remember.
- 20:10But it's learn, who was it? That told you to come.
- 20:14I don't know who told me to come They were all just giving me
- 20:17that like typical Club loose. Tough love.
- 20:18Like, you're an idiot. Why are you drifting on the
- 20:20streets? Blah, blah blah, which I mean, I
- 20:22totally understand why now and in retrospect.
- 20:26Yeah, because I remember you told me about that story.
- 20:28They're like, yeah, they saw me drift Petty looked at me one
- 20:30time and he was like, get out of your car.
- 20:33He completely all drifted me and then I was like, Iowa dance
- 20:37here, I guess. And you real.
- 20:39Oh yeah, I remember he like like halfway punch me is like let go
- 20:42of the wheel and I say that all the time.
- 20:44Now to my students like you Got like, oh wait, you got to feel
- 20:47the car? Yeah, I mean so tough love has
- 20:48been like always a thing are there since day.
- 20:51One. You know, I mean like they put
- 20:53me right in check. You know?
- 20:55I mean so like every time I hear people now complaining, like,
- 20:57you don't even know. Yeah.
- 20:59And usually, no, listen to the podcast.
- 21:00So you would know that we bring that up sometimes like, yeah,
- 21:03oh, kids. These days are just like running
- 21:06away from all that. I think is that they don't
- 21:08understand like and it's from around the country, right?
- 21:10Like it's definitely a Northeast thing.
- 21:12I go to other clubs. I go to other parts of the
- 21:15country. See where they have these events
- 21:17and like the attitude is not the same.
- 21:19Yeah, that we have. And it's a when you think about
- 21:21it it's like well the majority of people are coming from
- 21:24Pennsylvania. New Jersey, New York.
- 21:26So that's just attitude is going to be a thing and the only way
- 21:29to communicate with people that have that attitude is to have
- 21:32something of attitude. Yeah, so it looks really
- 21:36foreign, you know, I know Aaron Loosely when I talked to him, he
- 21:38told me, he's like, you can always tell who's from the East
- 21:40Coast because you guys are so hard on one another but in a
- 21:43very loving way, where to us On a it's off-putting to kind of
- 21:47see people like talk shit on one, another like that and then
- 21:50they come back at that they're almost so nice to each other.
- 21:52That it's weird to me. Yeah.
- 21:54Yeah. Well I think like they're
- 21:55fucking with me. Yeah.
- 21:56Like in California and shit, like, they'll be saying stuff
- 21:58and I'm like, is this guy fucking with us?
- 21:59Yeah, like I don't know. 100% literally Frankie when we were
- 22:04in California, he's like everybody's so fucking nice.
- 22:06Like why is this guy? So I'm always like if you're if
- 22:08you're that night. I'm like, something's up.
- 22:10Yeah, yeah, that's that's because we're from here.
- 22:12Yeah, exactly. But then once you get used to
- 22:14your there for a couple of days. Is great.
- 22:16Oh now Frank everything's just perfect here.
- 22:18Yeah. Okay, but that is just your
- 22:20after a while like like other things would irritate me like
- 22:22the way they would like on the west coast.
- 22:24Like if I'm not doing what I need to be doing by 10 a.m. like
- 22:28my day is gone. Yeah you're just like no, oh
- 22:30don't even get me started, get around to it.
- 22:32I'm like oh my God. Don't even get me started with
- 22:34California but I get it. I see that.
- 22:36That's their way of life, you know, and over here when they
- 22:38come over here they like you guys are like a million miles a
- 22:40minute. Yeah, I mean I'm sure everybody
- 22:42has different experiences but at least generally speaking I've
- 22:45noticed Yeah, dude, it's bad. And that's why we have that
- 22:48attitude and stuff like that here.
- 22:49The business side of it. I'm talking about like, oh yeah
- 22:51bro, oh my God. The time zone?
- 22:54No no man, no man. Keep it basic the restaurants,
- 22:57bro. Like just ordering for you.
- 23:00Sometimes you're just like, dude, can you just bring me the
- 23:01check? I've been ready.
- 23:03Like 15 minutes? Yeah, they will call it like
- 23:08him. Yeah.
- 23:11What do you need? Yeah, he went on lunch.
- 23:14What time is it there? Dude, it's 10 a.m. and he's not
- 23:17on lunch, bro. I just got to work, man.
- 23:19Like it's always just like so slow.
- 23:21Everyone's high as fuck. I'm like, dude I can't, I can't
- 23:23with that shit. But yeah, they're all nice.
- 23:25They're super nice. That's why it, which is worse
- 23:27because now you can't be mean to him.
- 23:29Yeah. You know what I mean?
- 23:30And then but the only time that really gets me is when they
- 23:33pulled that passive-aggressive thing.
- 23:34I'm just like I haven't really experienced huge.
- 23:37Yeah, it's their way. I love being me Q, okay?
- 23:41Say it literally yeah, they passively say it and they know
- 23:44it irritates us too shy. But I love, I love all my
- 23:49California friends out of all I do to their different.
- 23:53It is different. So it's nice sometimes and I've
- 23:55learned a lot from them. Like man I should probably
- 23:57chill. Yeah.
- 23:59It was like yeah you know who's like that Justin from Rose star.
- 24:03Justin is the nicest bro. I told Malcolm out they said I
- 24:06was like Justin's to nice dude. He's like what do you mean?
- 24:09I was like I don't Bro, I couldn't read them.
- 24:11He's like, what I'm like, I can't tell if he's fucking me,
- 24:14he's just so nice. And then, like, after we spent
- 24:17that whole time with him in California, I was like, he's
- 24:20just genuinely a nice fucking person.
- 24:23Like, and I didn't just get used to that.
- 24:25That's crazy. Those Americans like, we look at
- 24:27that as like, are you fucking with me?
- 24:28Yeah. And then like, we were by the
- 24:31time he came, I'm talking about that time.
- 24:32We went to California, last, which was black dudes Drift.
- 24:36We went out. There are buddy.
- 24:37Came out. Hung out with us.
- 24:39We were already exhausted. Sausage.
- 24:40We were there for like three days, you know, I texted him
- 24:43after we got back and I was like I just want to apologize for how
- 24:46exhausted me and Carl War. Do I was like delusional as
- 24:49fuck. I see walking us to a taco
- 24:50truck. That wasn't there and shit and
- 24:52Justin Took the Wheel. Yes.
- 24:53Yes. It was being so nice to us and
- 24:55like do you guys want to do this?
- 24:56Do that. And we're just like whatever
- 24:58man. Like it was we were gonna sleep
- 25:00dude, it was amazing. But yeah, he was so nice.
- 25:02I did like texting like, dude, I'm sorry.
- 25:04This is this is why what they totally understand.
- 25:06This is, ya know, he did. He seem to yeah.
- 25:08He was like, totally not even. Mad about it.
- 25:10I'm like, if it was someone from here, they'd be like, yo, what
- 25:12the fuck was up with you, man? But like, California people are
- 25:14just like he needed that hood transport and I'm not gonna say
- 25:17whatever it is or what car, it's for, but I brought it down there
- 25:20because Justin asked me to. Yeah, because I was like, Dude,
- 25:24you would have fucking done the same shit.
- 25:26Oh, you're so nice and they're all nice down there.
- 25:29Oh, nice. It was every experience that
- 25:31I've had in California has been super super like I'll joke
- 25:34around and bust her balls because they're different.
- 25:36Yeah, but that's because I like them and if you're from the East
- 25:38Coast, that's how you tell someone you like them.
- 25:40Also, their drift events are dumb lacks, dude.
- 25:43Like, the vibe is completely different.
- 25:45Yeah. They're not like attacking each
- 25:46other, not attacking like I mean like, you know, that a drive the
- 25:51best, but I'm good in bed. I'm, yeah, I'm used to like Like
- 25:55color, she just taught me. Like if you're going to go out
- 25:57there like you events for the etiquette and and rum right
- 26:00line. Yeah.
- 26:00Just run a shitty lion like you know what I mean.
- 26:03So there is some places in the country that I've gone through
- 26:06were there is no line discipline, at least there's
- 26:09nothing. So you can't really even any
- 26:10like, hey dude, why don't you try that?
- 26:12There's like, it's just people just doing whatever is doing
- 26:15whatever and that unfortunately because of my upbringing turns
- 26:19me off to to drift that event sometimes.
- 26:21Yeah, because I'm just like Like, I need to know that if I
- 26:25if I go hard you're going to go deep here because like that's
- 26:29what you should be doing, you talking like a tandems and
- 26:31stuff? Yeah, yeah.
- 26:32Oh yeah. If you're talking tendons and
- 26:34shit, that's a whole nother thing to.
- 26:35It's like, you know, you do. But that's because of that has
- 26:39to because we come up and close. Yeah.
- 26:41And you can't get this camera, you can't get to a group unless
- 26:43you're certain. You're not saying that there
- 26:45isn't some clubs out there that are disciplined as well but you
- 26:48know there's there's a lot of them that aren't yeah.
- 26:50I've definitely noticed there's a lot that aren't it's more like
- 26:53a kind of a Free for all. Yeah.
- 26:55Yes. And that has a ultimately think
- 26:57that has to do with the organizer of the person that's
- 26:59in charge, of hundred percent. So, it's like, you know, I
- 27:02almost feel like that's what it's like in Japan though,
- 27:05sometimes you watch these videos and nobody's doing anything,
- 27:07they're just one guy, making sure that.
- 27:08Yeah, but I'm probably is think about the, like, We're not
- 27:12Japanese. You know what I'm saying?
- 27:15Like, we're we don't have that, that, that normal etiquette and
- 27:20discipline. Yeah.
- 27:21Remarried never know. What the heck.
- 27:22We can do. Whatever the hell we want to do.
- 27:24Fuck you. You like?
- 27:25Yeah, that is, they're not like that.
- 27:27You know what I mean? Like, they're awesome.
- 27:29Like, don't get me wrong but, you know, they have their own
- 27:31like, way of like, I don't know. How to say it like self-police.
- 27:36Yes, exactly. Yeah.
- 27:37That they have the culture that allows that to breathe.
- 27:39Yeah, Americans don't have that. No need to.
- 27:42Control of the track. Yeah.
- 27:43Someone has to tell us what to do because if you tell us like
- 27:45you know, just don't cross the line, we're all going to be
- 27:47like, who's gonna cross it first?
- 27:48Yeah, that's just. That's just.
- 27:50Who is our culture? That is true.
- 27:51We're going to be assholes, you know what I mean and we make it
- 27:55look cool which makes everyone kind of like it a little bit,
- 27:58you know. Yeah right.
- 27:58Thank you. Yeah.
- 28:00That's the Americans whatever just wear a jersey and some
- 28:02bread cops. So, you got now, you kind of are
- 28:08affiliated a little bit in club blues and stuff.
- 28:10Like, did you just keep driving Club loose, repetitively until
- 28:14like, you became an instructor know.
- 28:18So, I did programs. I did at that time.
- 28:20It was the era of like doing programs and stuff like that.
- 28:23So, I jumped into the params with, like, this is the Arab,
- 28:26like, Steve, angermann Dan Savage.
- 28:29Jeff. Stone back.
- 28:31Well, you probably came out of the basketball mindset, like,
- 28:34I'm going to do this. This for a couple people.
- 28:36Right? Yeah.
- 28:37So try to do this at that time, that generation of drifters.
- 28:41That was the way like Instagram and all that stuff.
- 28:44Really wasn't a thing back. Then the way to make his like,
- 28:47you were good, you would go to these events.
- 28:50You would Place good and you would go on to like Rec magazine
- 28:54and like, you know, all the, all that stuff.
- 28:56That was the route. That sounds that sounds sick.
- 28:59Like I wish I honestly, that it was still like that.
- 29:01Like, that sounds awesome. But I mean, I under you off to,
- 29:04you also have to understand With the expansion of social media.
- 29:08Now, its own. So many more people an
- 29:10opportunity to do it. Yeah.
- 29:12And that's good and bad because you'll get some people that
- 29:15traditionally you may think. Well, I don't know if they
- 29:18really deserve all that but then you got other people that are
- 29:21really focused on learning how to drift and be good at drifting
- 29:24and hope that that makes them popular.
- 29:25But like, you know, it's just it's kind of the way of every
- 29:28four years like drifting Ghana goes through, like this little
- 29:30change and stuff like that, and I've seen it happen like, you
- 29:32know, I mean I've been around since like Myspace.
- 29:34It's like yeah. I seen it all kind of go up and
- 29:36down all around and you know, now kids are all over Tick-Tock.
- 29:40It's like so it's interesting to see what's going to be like
- 29:42because stay with it though. That's what you told me.
- 29:43You were on Tick-Tock and that's where you get a lot of your
- 29:45business, right? Yeah.
- 29:46A lot of my business comes from Tech knock now.
- 29:48Yeah. She's probably like get
- 29:49Tick-Tock or something. The kids got to me.
- 29:52I mean we're not going to put out Malcolm's, got her Tick-Tock
- 29:54going so you can follow us on Tick-Tock.
- 29:56This shit that scares me. Is sometimes on that I'll see
- 29:59something cool. Guys. 13.
- 30:01And I have 300, that's it. And then and then like, I'll see
- 30:06somebody else. It's a technically, it would be
- 30:10drifting because of the, he's linking turns, but it's
- 30:12literally threw a fucking Suburban ass neighborhood,
- 30:14right? And it's in a Hellcat, and I'm
- 30:17like, this thing is got is got some speed going, right?
- 30:21And it's midday, I understand that she is scary and that
- 30:25that'll also spread like wildfire are too, but that's so
- 30:30I'm not trying to give them excuses.
- 30:32But with the growth of the popularity of drifting, we tend
- 30:38to always think that that's always going to be a positive
- 30:40thing. Uh-huh.
- 30:41But because we live in this country.
- 30:43Yeah. And because we're free, you can
- 30:46interpret that however, you want.
- 30:48And The growth of drifting has bred the growth of other things
- 30:52that we don't like. Yeah, that's just the pros and
- 30:54cons of that, you know. I mean I think a really nicely
- 30:57put yeah. It's just it's just how it
- 30:58works, you know. I mean I would be almost.
- 31:00I mean do I like it? No.
- 31:01But I'm sure like Club loose didn't like when I was out there
- 31:04like drifting these intersections like in Tokyo
- 31:07Drift. Yeah.
- 31:08You know what I mean that was just as dangerous.
- 31:09If not, it's probably more, you know what I mean?
- 31:12But I still make fun of the Takeover because all the time
- 31:14that's just it, that's you're going to cut the heat, you know?
- 31:17I mean, I just you're going to get the shit talking.
- 31:18I see we have To keep making fun of them because hopefully it'll
- 31:21do something. Yeah.
- 31:22And, you know, not for nothing. I had some of them that do come
- 31:24to the school, to try to learn how to do it legit, and they're
- 31:26very interested in doing it. But like I told him straight up
- 31:29and they told me straight up, it's not just like the
- 31:31technique. It's more.
- 31:32So like because it's illegal and it's like, that's the attraction
- 31:36and it's like I mean it's that's why are we drifting is fine?
- 31:39Yeah, exactly. You're doing something that you
- 31:41shouldn't be doing. Yeah.
- 31:42So it's fucking sick. The only difference is like
- 31:46people getting hurt, sometimes hitting people and do it at that
- 31:49Donuts. Releasing that fun of me that
- 31:51part freaks me out because I'm like and even they say they
- 31:53don't want like the least, the select few that have come to me.
- 31:56They say that they don't they don't really want people to get
- 31:59hurt. They just wanted to somehow turn
- 32:01into something, but they understand that it's like due to
- 32:05the publicity and the video is it's going to be a really hard
- 32:07battle. Yeah.
- 32:08My kids just as long as it took people to take what we do.
- 32:11Seriously, it's going to take just as long for you.
- 32:12That's his even if your stuff even blast, you know what I
- 32:15mean? Like, they'll eventually just
- 32:16probably just convert into drifting when they realize it
- 32:18they got like yeah. It's like squats at police place
- 32:23it realistically. It's just like the lame version
- 32:26of drifting so I think eventually the people that want
- 32:29to do it, seriously will go places like you or Chris and
- 32:33they'll learn how to actually Drifter.
- 32:35Then they'll probably stop do but they'll realize like well.
- 32:37Okay, well Donuts are kind of boring, you know.
- 32:39Yeah, 100%. And the people that come to
- 32:41like, for instance, my school and rent, my car is like it's
- 32:43all types of people. I mean, I have people that come
- 32:45from Manhattan cubicles down. Till I just a lot of women who
- 32:52are just like normal moms that are just trying to get into it
- 32:54because yeah that's crazy. Grand moms you know.
- 32:57It's awesome. Yeah.
- 32:58Fuck it's because the the trick is is that It's a the one-on-one
- 33:05experience is really. What does it?
- 33:07Yeah, that's what personal, you know, you have to be personal.
- 33:09So like I definitely don't trust talk to them.
- 33:11I would trust. Yeah.
- 33:12I mean that's the whole. I mean that's part of the
- 33:14process right? You comment I made you feel calm
- 33:15through. We talk about whatever and then
- 33:17you sell me a condo. Yeah.
- 33:19I like I said before doing a lot of that stuff I really listened
- 33:24to a lot of like a podcast that it was like CIA agents and like
- 33:28how they talk to people and all that stuff.
- 33:30And I was like and I'd be able higher say if I don't use A
- 33:32little bit of that when you're going into it, you know, it's a
- 33:35lot easier, some brain manipulation, it's simple
- 33:38because they're going in happy. Yeah, yeah.
- 33:40You know what I mean? Now the problem is is that like
- 33:46you're not really coming to me for an experience.
- 33:48Like I tell people that on the phone, it's probably not, good
- 33:50marketing tactic of on my part but wait you tell him you're not
- 33:54like, you're not going for an extra like you're coming here to
- 33:56learn. Okay, you know what I mean?
- 33:57Like some people have asked me local, can we do something
- 33:59different like now if you can't do this line, And learn how to
- 34:02hold the line and learn how to like, do what I'm telling you to
- 34:05do, like you can't get past this point.
- 34:07Yeah. Yeah.
- 34:08I mean, I know that's good. Yeah, that's it.
- 34:10So you do it, you do it in like sections.
- 34:12Yeah, yeah. Sections are learn this before
- 34:14you step to this, definitely. 100%.
- 34:16I mean, you show them different aspects of it, but like I'm not
- 34:18just going to like, oh we're not just going to jump into clutch
- 34:20kicking initiation. Like you don't even know what
- 34:22you're doing. You have no ideal.
- 34:23We transfer is yet what references that a throttle
- 34:26modulation or any of that stuff. So you really have to start
- 34:29breaking that down the people that probably have the heart.
- 34:32Time at the Jewish school are usually people that come from
- 34:36some sort of racing disciplinarity most coachable or
- 34:40something. It's not that they're not
- 34:42coachable, it's just that they've been trained so well to
- 34:44keep their hands on the fucking wheel that well tell them to
- 34:48steer with your foot and out with your hands it just like
- 34:51throws them for a loop. That's interesting.
- 34:53I always I always tell people that like do grip racing our
- 34:56stuff. I'm like dude you should try
- 34:57drifting. I feel like you would help with
- 34:58car control. I think it would I think I think
- 35:01just something to have in your back pocket and when they
- 35:03learned that the interesting is is if you're someone who comes
- 35:08from time attack or any of that stuff that has to do with, like
- 35:11actual racing, you know, me. And then you start doing
- 35:13drifting the once. They figure it out, they become
- 35:16very robotic. Yeah, there's no style to what
- 35:18they do because they've been trained to be very step by step
- 35:21by step by step. Yeah Drifters.
- 35:24We're not we have like you can see there's like a little lack
- 35:27of discipline which comes off a style with what we do.
- 35:31But everyone that comes from some sort of either stunt
- 35:33driving or racing, you can definitely tell like once they
- 35:36Get out. They just they do it that way
- 35:39every single time and they sense very calculated and they are
- 35:42kind of like robots. Yeah.
- 35:43So you can cut it's great for Tandem.
- 35:45Yeah. But like after a while like I'll
- 35:47watch you once or twice and I'm not going to watch you anymore
- 35:49because like I just get bored. It's boring.
- 35:51Yeah. But it's drifting can get boring
- 35:53depending on. Yeah.
- 35:54Who's do? I know what you mean?
- 35:55Yeah. Like some you watch some
- 35:57professional drivers and you're like, well yeah, this is just
- 35:59blimey. I'm a nerd for I'm a nurse for
- 36:01techniques for sure. I remember you said that like
- 36:04you're like I like more like the The the Aesthetics of it all.
- 36:07Yeah, I'm a nerd. I So I came up watching all
- 36:13those options videos. So to me, my perception of what
- 36:18I thought was a good driver is for your car to look so good
- 36:23that you could drive that good. And at the end of the event,
- 36:27you're Stark. Your car still look good.
- 36:29Yeah, it wasn't broken. So it showed like this, dude
- 36:31fucking ribs. Yeah, and that's, that's how I
- 36:34took what I saw. So when I see someone look good
- 36:38but then they drive shitty. I look at that.
- 36:40Like okay, the well. Your lack of style.
- 36:43Hmm because to me you have to have both yet to fully have that
- 36:49style. You know what I mean?
- 36:50That's why I like it was even though I may not be as authentic
- 36:53as some of you guys you look at someone is 13 so you can see the
- 36:56remnants of all those early 90s liveries and stuff like that,
- 37:00because that's what I grew up watching.
- 37:01I just didn't have the change to make that happen, you know, I
- 37:04wanted to drive because I wanted a link Booth I want to have
- 37:07style and the driving technique. So when I see people like, now,
- 37:10when I watch Final Bell, Out. I see a lot more style and the
- 37:14driving and now I'm like that now, it's complete.
- 37:17Yeah. You know what I mean?
- 37:18That's what I like the for me. That's what I like to say.
- 37:20Do you think it's ever going to like do you think right now?
- 37:23It's like we're like it's a peek.
- 37:26It's pretty high right now. The popularity and we're and
- 37:30like the growth of the drifting community.
- 37:33So my immediate thought I thought was thinking about this
- 37:36on my drive home the other day and I was like What the hell is
- 37:39going to happen? Next like is this going to ever
- 37:42stop? Probably some insane.
- 37:44Shit is gonna have what's gonna change?
- 37:46It's going to get really good you think so we're not even.
- 37:49Yeah. Like these kids that are coming
- 37:51out now are going to like the driving unless like something
- 37:55happens outside of our hands. Like when I mean like worldwide
- 37:59like when it comes to like our countries and shit like that,
- 38:00only we go through economic failure and which is a whole
- 38:03other story but like, as long as we're still going, we can still
- 38:07rock out and we're going to have Or 10 years of directing, which
- 38:10I think we still will like by the next eight years, we're
- 38:13going to see some some some kids come out some dudes.
- 38:16Come out there. Just like the driving just going
- 38:18to go through the roof. I mean, just look at history.
- 38:21Look at what drifting was 10 years ago.
- 38:22That's what I'm saying. I look at it now and you watch
- 38:25those videos and stuff and like The modifications, they weren't
- 38:29like now. It's like yeah, dude, I'm like
- 38:31that that are modifications are wild, but that's what to me, but
- 38:35that's because of the growth. Again, that's another thing
- 38:37that's a by-product of the growth of the popularity.
- 38:40So now because of that growth, it has given more after has
- 38:43given more after more business. Yeah.
- 38:45More people to get, you know, I was talking to Frankie earlier,
- 38:47I see everything. Come to my school after you have
- 38:50wise Fab PBM, makeshift. What?
- 38:53I saw everything, everything I remember.
- 38:56The problem is the driver, literally, if you're good you
- 39:01can you can now it becomes a preference.
- 39:04Yeah. Oh I want this kit because
- 39:07because this the well, it's because I saw this person on
- 39:10YouTube with this. That's what it's become.
- 39:12Yeah, you know, and the rule, the real people, I think you
- 39:15should on a, we can maybe point the blame at that, that maybe
- 39:18don't realize they're doing it. But they're doing it is the
- 39:21companies, the companies that sponsor kind of direct because
- 39:23they're the ones that have the money there.
- 39:24Yeah. They're like saying, oh yeah.
- 39:26Is the person we're going to have endorse for this but
- 39:28because the person behind the screen that's given the okay, is
- 39:31in a jerk, there doesn't know what world you're thing is,
- 39:33doesn't know what, how to distinguish good from bad.
- 39:35All they see is numbers on Instagram.
- 39:37Yeah, I mean, but that's just the world we live in now.
- 39:40Like something's going to come up, it's going to reformat and
- 39:42like yeah, it's just going to grow those old videos where the
- 39:46modifications aren't Beyond reach.
- 39:49At least for some like normal. Dude, to me that tells me I can
- 39:54go do that. Like I can be cool just like
- 39:56Like that just because I have all the shit now like you back
- 40:00then it was probably like oh like you have aftermarket
- 40:03Knuckles like but now it's like oh I think we just wanted to be
- 40:07more like the Japanese drivers that we saw back then.
- 40:10So we were just trying to buy everything and employers we
- 40:12thought getting all that stuff would make us better.
- 40:14Yeah or make us more authentic. Yeah but now I think we've
- 40:18adopted more of what we should have done which is like take
- 40:22your normal Z or BRZ or whatever real will drive car.
- 40:26Available in your area right now, that's cheap and slightly
- 40:29modified enough and drift it because my drift cars are you
- 40:33don't get in them. And like, think it's a drift car
- 40:34like, other than, like, the Hydra that's in there, but
- 40:37everything else is pretty like, oh, I could totally that's the
- 40:40feeling I could go buy one of these.
- 40:42Yeah, like it doesn't look like oh, this is a full-blown drift
- 40:44car. And that's the selling point.
- 40:46Like, you jump in the car and you're like, I can do this.
- 40:50This is only like, this is under 10 grand.
- 40:52Yeah, that's yeah. That's that's That's not even
- 40:56that much money nowadays. That's the shittiest thing.
- 40:58Yeah. Like so when you tell them that
- 41:01like, yeah, goodbye BMW by G35 by 350.
- 41:03Say it's going to cost you under 10 grand.
- 41:05All said and done. Depending what part of the
- 41:07country I'm just I'm just saying.
- 41:08Yeah that is a huge fact. It's a huge Factor, huge Factor.
- 41:11But in most places I feel like, if you're lucky, that's what
- 41:15you're going to be spending, you can get in and if you know how
- 41:16to manage your tires and and you know, have a water pit and all
- 41:20that stuff and like, you're going to really do what we
- 41:24should have done. Like so the way I calculated is
- 41:28I've been doing this for almost two decades.
- 41:30Hmm. The people that I've taught in
- 41:32the last five years because we've been able to Fast Track
- 41:36them. By the time, they hit the ten
- 41:37yard Mark, theoretically they share it to be where I'm at now.
- 41:40Yeah. So like I imagine how much
- 41:43better people get that. And and for those of you
- 41:46listening I feel like we just kind of glazed over this, but
- 41:49you run drift School Evergreen. That's what the name is on
- 41:51Instagram. Yeah, Driscoll everyone.
- 41:53Jessica, how long, how long have you been doing that?
- 41:55As you mentioned, you drove Pro-Am.
- 41:56So then I'm assuming it developed into this eventually?
- 41:59Yeah. In 2017, I went out to
- 42:02California to drift 101 to go work on there.
- 42:05Neath, 9 Yoki. A Willow Springs.
- 42:07Okay. And I just helped him sick.
- 42:09What the hell was that? Like, it was great.
- 42:11I went over there. Super, super nice guy.
- 42:13Very Californian. So we definitely, like he
- 42:15doesn't like your various because just by the way, I can
- 42:18well showed us. Was he like the first drift
- 42:20school? I think he was.
- 42:22I think it's drift School 101. It's so exist.
- 42:26Like I still know people that go to that unit 6.
- 42:28I think Coleman and went there. I'm pretty sure.
- 42:32I'm pretty sure that's where Cole went and he when he was
- 42:34like young to but uh, yeah, it's been there for like I want to
- 42:38say over 10. Is it the same deal?
- 42:40They have cars there that you. Same thing, same thing, like it
- 42:44all like, so it happened then I was like, let me go see if I can
- 42:46make this happen but the only reason that I even thought this
- 42:50could happen is because I had all of that training with called
- 42:52loose. Like they I was instructing the
- 42:54club looks like 2010-2011. So I got to like sharpen my
- 42:57skill and really practiced that craft.
- 43:01For like almost a decade you know what I mean or whatever
- 43:04like six years or something like that.
- 43:05Before I said oh let me go see if I can make this a real thing,
- 43:09you know because I started getting invited to do these
- 43:11clinics and stuff like that. I'm like, so I did it.
- 43:13Pro bono for free for like years and years and years.
- 43:16Just because you like doing it just because I like doing it
- 43:18because that's how Club lose treating me.
- 43:20You know, like this is what you're going to do to be part of
- 43:22the club. Yeah.
- 43:23So like you helped the future so like then it's turned into it
- 43:27manifested into a career and I mean which I never Never thought
- 43:31it there. I mean, it's a struggle.
- 43:33I mean, I'm not saying it's like, I'm like walking, it's a
- 43:35business. Yeah.
- 43:37Doing anything in the drifting Community as a living is
- 43:40definitely a. Yeah, you know, trying to find
- 43:42the fucking downstairs, where we can make money and also drift
- 43:45yes, called a business and learn how to write shit off.
- 43:47Yeah. But at the end of the day it's
- 43:49like it's it's not you know yeah it's not crazy but no at least
- 43:53you're doing what you want to do every day.
- 43:55You know? I mean I get to do that and then
- 43:57I'm blessed because I have that sponsor at Thompson from Cool
- 44:00Cat Motorsports. It lets me drive. 350Z.
- 44:02Okay. And I things like an ex formula
- 44:04drift car. And that's a full ride, bro.
- 44:06Like, I don't, I'm so blessed. I tell them all the time.
- 44:09Like, thank you so much because I don't do it.
- 44:10I don't pay for that. I couldn't afford Drive tires,
- 44:13and everything, the broke the whole thing.
- 44:15It's an arrived in Drive. Damn.
- 44:17And when you, when you get to drive that car like do you do
- 44:19it? So do you have like I drove it.
- 44:22I don't personally he has it over in Maryland.
- 44:25I drove it all in 2021 when I did clutch kickers.
- 44:28Okay. You know I did that that which
- 44:29was awesome to do that, I miss that.
- 44:31A little bit different driving. I wish we would have done some
- 44:34things to the car, but we were just learning the car and it was
- 44:37like the first time I competed in like on the seven years, the
- 44:39most nerve-wracking comp that year was coming to The Gambler
- 44:42because I always judged a gambler.
- 44:44Oh, so then when I got to compete, I was like, damn, all
- 44:46of these kids know how I drive under me, you know, I mean it
- 44:50was probably the most nerve-racking calm that I did
- 44:52that year was to come home to try to drive against like the
- 44:55people that know me best because on my any one of these you can
- 44:58take me out. I feel like that's that that
- 45:01would Make it more fun for me. I definitely like it was fun.
- 45:04Yeah, trash-talking was great in the pit, so, sexy so good.
- 45:09Everybody was like, everybody knew the deal.
- 45:10If you know, I'm a some good jokes went down.
- 45:12I forgot them all, but it was something with some heaters out
- 45:14there. I like the competition side of
- 45:19it, I do, but I, but I also like fucking around with my friends
- 45:23and stuff and, like, just enjoying driving, I'm I still
- 45:26enjoy it, but I know when you can mix the two together like
- 45:29final bout or super D did. It's a lot but I just I just
- 45:33know that. Like, there's a there has to be
- 45:37a reason why I'm doing something before it was trying to get a
- 45:40group of. Yeah.
- 45:42See think that's a goal for me. That's what I guess.
- 45:45Like I remember they told us in close Loosely.
- 45:47You don't want? We don't do competitions because
- 45:51we never want to pit are like our brothers against one.
- 45:54Another like you never wanted to get to the point where you like
- 45:57your pitted against one, you know, in a competition or even
- 46:00let that even breathe Read. So that's why we always kept one
- 46:03of Ben's going. And it, I mean, think about it
- 46:05like the majority of people that aren't program.
- 46:06Excuse me, that are in Pro spectre-4, I don't, I don't know
- 46:10anything about their from. Yeah, they're from climbing.
- 46:12Look at rich white men from Club lose Ricky Hoffman.
- 46:16I mean, look how did our larders?
- 46:17A lot of them that are in there. Yeah you know what I mean?
- 46:19So like that type of what they do.
- 46:23A club loose and what we've been pushing, rather I think really
- 46:25brings a lot of good drivers. Yeah.
- 46:27These are in our area when I watch The Gambler because that I
- 46:30do watch Um when I watch The Gambler, I like that since there
- 46:35is a standard and like you're in competition, since there is a
- 46:38standard, there's a bigger expectation that you're going to
- 46:41go somewhere. Like I can anticipate more
- 46:44right? If I was driving, right?
- 46:46Just because, like, sometimes when I'm at Evergreen or
- 46:49something like that, and we're just boogying along.
- 46:52I'm like, damn, I wish I wish you pushed out there more or
- 46:55like, what have you? That's more of it yet because
- 46:57that's the Evergreen is up in more of a party.
- 47:00I love it. Is Padma, so many different
- 47:02things. Yeah.
- 47:03Like and it's such a, it's a small course, but literally
- 47:06packed with tons of different things.
- 47:08It's definitely grown a lot, you know, over the last couple of
- 47:12years but it was only a hundred. And I think like, 15 drivers
- 47:15there when I was there for their opener, that's their own culture
- 47:18over there. For sure.
- 47:19I like I like how it's like literally in a little Valley.
- 47:21Yeah, it's have. You gotta go haven't been there
- 47:24but he's been trying to get because I realized you've been
- 47:26trying to get me to go there for like Multiple years now and then
- 47:30he just started talking about it this year with well.
- 47:32Darrell got me into it. He would be going there and he
- 47:35would come home. And this is always a selling
- 47:37point for me, he's like, yeah, I got like 50 laps and I'm like,
- 47:4350 like 50. And he's like, yeah.
- 47:46Like they, if the if the track is hot, we're driving.
- 47:50And I'm like that's sick. Like, what the fuck?
- 47:53And I looked at the track and the infield isn't just like a,
- 47:57in two weeks, I'm going to Our Speedway for a private day and
- 48:01oldest guys got money. I'm sorry, we didn't get that
- 48:05invite, you know. Well, I actually oh, Malcolm.
- 48:09Do I tell him? Oh, Malcolm's go to, wow.
- 48:14Oh, Malcolm's. Go see what happens.
- 48:19I fucking give her whatever. And then they do, they just take
- 48:23it and run. I learned and applied some
- 48:26knowledge that I learned from being here and And I built my
- 48:29car and you didn't invite me. It was literally a today.
- 48:32Wait. So that's the one that's the
- 48:34oval. It's a oval so my intention is
- 48:38one. We're going to go celebrate my
- 48:39buddy's. Birthday surge, what's up?
- 48:42But to I've never been there. So fun three.
- 48:46I heard that the oval the infield?
- 48:50Where's the tires? 0?
- 48:52Probably. So then I also know that you can
- 48:54tandem there and I really want to get some time with Darryl.
- 48:58There were just wait till you see first of all stop going to
- 49:01oval second of all wait till you see the view.
- 49:04It's a crate. You've been there.
- 49:05Yeah. Yeah.
- 49:06Is it a crazy when you pull in there?
- 49:07You have the Little River next to it and everything.
- 49:09Why is the mountain right there? I'd have no, I've looked up no
- 49:12photos, I just know. It's a flat in photos, won't do
- 49:14any justice any but here's okay. I know it is an oval but I want
- 49:19to like trying to get you to go to Club bluesman.
- 49:21I just want to drive with Daryl for a little like I'm if we
- 49:23really want to have all times, if we really want to do, not
- 49:26really, if we do this, we really really want to see something
- 49:29when this I want to do something where I'm like, okay let's work
- 49:32on this or let's go do that. So like I'm going to go there
- 49:35with intention of driving with people like driving driving.
- 49:39Look, man. Where's my invite?
- 49:41We'll talk after this. Well, yeah.
- 49:42You guys should bring like over at the school.
- 49:45Like, if you bring your own car, if you bring buddies with you,
- 49:48like I do. The max.
- 49:49I do is for people. Uh-huh.
- 49:51And then you get a discount. So at that point, it's like
- 49:53you're there for the four hours but it's 175 bucks because you
- 49:56have for people with you. Yeah, I got his wheels spinning.
- 50:02Well, no because I think I remember a buddy of mine Quan
- 50:05was going to do something, but I think something had come up but,
- 50:09you know, I like I also just like going to the events.
- 50:12I just know I'm going to go to Evergreen if it's an event.
- 50:14I mean. Yeah the Avenger like they're
- 50:16fine it's really and I love how they do that comp in the middle
- 50:18for like two hours. Real quick.
- 50:19Yo its up its for me just because I know I'm not getting
- 50:22in there. I just know I so you don't do
- 50:24the copter no you should. Yeah you probably should that's
- 50:27a very relaxed kind of I think it's really good to kind of,
- 50:31like, haha. We're doing a competence.
- 50:32Like, I like that. It's a, get the feeling of.
- 50:35I like that. It's a buyer drive by in.
- 50:37Yeah, I love that. I was just gonna say you learn
- 50:41yourself as a driver, when you enter a competition.
- 50:44Yeah, you learn a lot about yourself.
- 50:45Realize, what type of traffic? Yeah.
- 50:48Because things can change real quick like you're because you're
- 50:51all of a sudden you're gonna be like, well, now I'm driving with
- 50:52a purpose and you could either get real aggressive or make
- 50:56crazy mistakes that you didn't know you were going to make.
- 50:59Yeah, yeah. Yeah, the mindset is like,
- 51:00always a like, when I spot for people because I spotted an FDA
- 51:04and that was always a thing like, no matter if it's FDA or
- 51:07program, or even when I had a auto real dream, that came by
- 51:12before they went the final bout. A got third place, I remember
- 51:14that. I was just like you guys.
- 51:15Just got to like, Chill just gotta be calm and realized like
- 51:21if you time everything correctly like drifting just it just it's
- 51:24magic. That was the one they did that.
- 51:27I was a judge for I guess. New Hampshire.
- 51:30Where was it Connecticut? Tom's.
- 51:31Yeah. Right.
- 51:33Deuce. I was watching their driving
- 51:34obviously dude. It was so consistent and they
- 51:38just kept going out. So the whole thing was like, you
- 51:40didn't have to, you just had to go out and get some laps in what
- 51:44your team and then that was it. Wait.
- 51:47Went out every single lap and they kept going out and out and
- 51:51out. I'm like texting said, I'm like
- 51:52dude you guys are good. Stop going out because you just
- 51:54waiting for them to fuck up but they never fucked up.
- 51:57No, it was so weird. That's what they were doing at
- 52:00Evergreen. We just kept on I kind of look
- 52:02at it. Like as long as you put in the
- 52:04time as long as you take the jump shots like you're gonna get
- 52:07good. It was crazy.
- 52:08They were super consistently. True baller right there and then
- 52:10Front Street goes out is crash into each other relapse.
- 52:13Yeah, with it, but they won this time.
- 52:14Yeah, dude, they were. There are Kanaan point.
- 52:17I this is what I saw. I parked at the bad at a bad
- 52:22spot. First, first thing in the
- 52:23morning, I wanted a basketball you real quick.
- 52:25They were on point because there was three of them not five true
- 52:30that get, don't you get more points if there's more people?
- 52:32No, I don't think so. But you should.
- 52:34I don't know if that's part of it.
- 52:35I thought I'd like the more people you got.
- 52:37I never heard of that, but that'd be cool because it's more
- 52:39difficult. Yeah.
- 52:39It's way more difficult. Anyone know how that works?
- 52:42Olfaction aligned, but I pulled up and I watched a bunch of
- 52:46cars. Go by and now didn't really
- 52:49think of it. I was like, oh, like people are
- 52:51drifting now. Cool.
- 52:52And then Front Street came by. Remember Josh was in front and
- 52:55Tom was behind. You just I don't see anything.
- 52:57But I know it's Tom like, his car.
- 53:00Like I know the sound and then here it comes.
- 53:03You just hear the engine help me.
- 53:05And then I look at Daryl and I'm like, yo front streets gonna win
- 53:07this shit. Yeah.
- 53:09Like I was like, damn, that looked really fucking good.
- 53:11Yeah, the cars are pretty dialed right now.
- 53:14They they both they literally bolted engine swaps.
- 53:17For they went there soon. I was there when he blew it up,
- 53:22which one the last one over it was at Club, loose.
- 53:25Josh, or Tosh? Yeah.
- 53:27And it filled up with like antifreeze I was like, yeah,
- 53:29it's going to suck. Yeah.
- 53:31It pretty much the same thing my engine did and he was like yeah,
- 53:34it's probably just a head gasket the whole time I'm thinking
- 53:36she's my detonated as you're going to lose car lower.
- 53:39It never, it's only going to get higher.
- 53:41Why? I don't know, man, start.
- 53:43He's like, you know, if I'm saying something
- 53:56That era era. Yeah.
- 53:57Yeah. But I get why they do what they
- 53:59do. Yeah.
- 54:01I just miss I miss what I miss. I like that.
- 54:03I just feel bad for Josh because my car is never changing from
- 54:05that because I feel the same way.
- 54:07When I look at this photo in the office, I'm just like that's my
- 54:10favorite photo, my car. I wish I had the same Wheels on
- 54:11the back, but that was like when I saw that photo, I was like,
- 54:15well, I'm good and That was I raised it up, you know, because
- 54:19my car used to be like stupid and not.
- 54:21Functional guys used to break a lot.
- 54:23Yeah. Now now it's like I'm like you
- 54:26guys are idiots. Raise your car, but I liked how
- 54:29it looked, you know, I don't even think I'd like how it
- 54:32looked. Now if I went back because I
- 54:34feel like it's just too low, you that right there.
- 54:36Think with time we just mature and we're just like crazy.
- 54:39I think it's well for me, what happens is like I'll see a car
- 54:44that's really low. Like I hate to keep roasting
- 54:47coal but like old man and he has a really low 180sx, and it looks
- 54:51cool, like, for a street car driving, but like, I know he
- 54:55drifts and I know he wants to drift it, so when I see it, I'm
- 54:59just like, no, like right away. I'm just like, I got a half an
- 55:04inch there, you know, I mean, like I have that like now I just
- 55:07have this weird thing in my mind word, like, I know where an s13
- 55:10should sit to look good, but still drive.
- 55:14Okay. You know, I mean, obviously,
- 55:16it's never going to be drive as well as like Front Street cars,
- 55:18right? But there's a happy middle
- 55:21ground like where you can just but for the street cars are more
- 55:24set up for a certain style of driving.
- 55:26Yes, but restive like no matter what, if your cars are higher in
- 55:29the air, the suspension is going to work better.
- 55:31Yeah, absolutely. There's way more.
- 55:33Geometry. That's going on.
- 55:34Yeah, for sure, but the one guy is card that I was in Juan, the
- 55:37one who drove for Auto real dream.
- 55:40I get this. Yeah, you could do a lot of
- 55:41modifications, i-i'm telling you, maybe it was just in his in
- 55:45that situation. It's like the perfect storm,
- 55:46right? You since he has low power of
- 55:48having a lot of rear camber which I think he had like a lot
- 55:52things on the ground, dude. And maybe since he has a low
- 55:56amount of Power with AKA that it like maybe helps it quote
- 56:01spinning like man some drifting for yeah.
- 56:03Like you were talking about earlier off the podcast.
- 56:05You were saying like actually I think you brought up now you
- 56:08were just like you could just make it work you know I mean
- 56:10like if you're driving to work. Hell yeah.
- 56:12He was working the shit out, but I do have a I draw the line when
- 56:15it comes to when people, when people ask me like what's your
- 56:21deciding factor with an angle kit.
- 56:22And I'm just like if my wheels poke out.
- 56:26Oh, nah. Then it's done.
- 56:28You mean like this. If I have to, if I have to get
- 56:31over fenders because that shit's Poking out like some crazy
- 56:34Mexican, like, Mexi poke I'm out.
- 56:37Yeah, I'm out. Then, I cannot like what?
- 56:42Yeah, I mean, that's how we were to.
- 56:43That's why we like, we made Justin and skog at the type, 3
- 56:46/. Yeah.
- 56:46Thank God. Those offenders came out at that
- 56:49time. And like the thing is, like,
- 56:51like calm cars. And I even then do, like you're
- 56:54the first thing I did when they gave me because the 350Z that I
- 56:57drive, the, the cool cat. Motorsports car is the sticky.
- 57:00Manufacturing through Thursday. Yeah.
- 57:03And I had the first Gen Y stripe kit on it.
- 57:05My deciding factor when I realized how much it poked and
- 57:08how raised it was. I was like, yeah, I has to go
- 57:10right here first. I hear that first wise Fab kids
- 57:14so much. Now, the thing is, I know now
- 57:16you have Ackerman adjustment and you can get it to self.
- 57:18Steer, the new one is probably not that bad.
- 57:20It's probably not that bad but if it pokes it still will.
- 57:24I'm out. Yeah.
- 57:26You need to resize it. How dude they bolt Scott.
- 57:29Had that kid on. He still has that kid on his
- 57:31car. We had to get like scissors.
- 57:33Oh, Scott's car, we had to get some crazy sized fucking front
- 57:36wheels that were like you those would never fit on a normal car
- 57:39ever. Probably like plus 60 they'd be
- 57:41sunken into like before like but if it's gonna be for like calm
- 57:46sand on, I don't know. Yeah, well that's the other
- 57:49thing. It's like Aesthetics or just
- 57:51something for me you can make like you can make like talking
- 57:53about that guy with a low car. It's like yeah you can make it
- 57:55drift like I can make any whatever just make it drift it's
- 57:58not a big deal but when you go to compete then you're gonna
- 58:02realize how bad your car. Yeah.
- 58:03Yeah, you know I mean if you're never going to compute as
- 58:05driving the shit out of it though.
- 58:06Yeah, there, but there's still a lot of dependence on the person
- 58:10behind the wheel. Once once you tell me about the
- 58:13camber in the rear, then you put it, you put a power properly
- 58:16setup car against him. It's not even a shock because
- 58:19the surging in Tandem, and final bout hat is way different than
- 58:23what you'll see, like our comms like Arie.
- 58:26I look at competition drifting, kind of like a dog fight and
- 58:29like airplane and that's especially hell.
- 58:31Yeah, I think What? I don't like about competition
- 58:34drifting and I won't mention any names, but it's some people they
- 58:38play dirty. Like it's yeah, you're battling
- 58:41and there's going to be some people that want to choke you or
- 58:44kind of play games and that may or may not be part of the game.
- 58:48You don't brake check here and they'll bring a little something
- 58:50here or you know like you know and I got it but then there's
- 58:55legal things like for instance like if you have a wide strap
- 58:57kit like I remember Alec on Adele he would throw a lot of
- 59:03angle before this one transition.
- 59:05But if I were to try to match that angle, I'm just going to
- 59:07choke myself. So like you're playing chess.
- 59:10Like I know my strength with that PBM.
- 59:14Could that I was running is that if I wind up just right in and
- 59:17time it just right he his transitions theoretically going
- 59:21to be slower because he doesn't have any any scrub.
- 59:25So yes to walk that wheel back over.
- 59:27I have inertia on my side. So I have to just team it And
- 59:31then he won't get away from me. It happened a couple times but
- 59:33then other times like you'll fall for it and then like so it
- 59:37like and some people may not even know what the hell were
- 59:39talking about right now, but that's what I'm saying.
- 59:40Competition drifting gets to that point and then like the
- 59:44club lose party mode stuff or what you'll see at final Bell
- 59:46that's like a whole whole other thing.
- 59:48I think the tire consumption is actually a lot less doing that
- 59:51type of stuff than the comp stuff because the comp you're
- 59:53trying to get everything out of your car.
- 59:55Yeah. You're trying to do so many
- 59:56things at one time and so it's to, at least for me, I think, I
- 1:00:00think it's two different things and that's like, the only way
- 1:00:02you could do a final bout one. Like, if they, if they pitted
- 1:00:05people against each other and shit would be a mess.
- 1:00:08Yeah, yeah. It's a certain type of person.
- 1:00:09Yeah. Because a lot of the teams have
- 1:00:11cars that are like set up similar to each other that way
- 1:00:15they can drive you know at least pretty decent with each other
- 1:00:18and not you know but if you start setting up different you
- 1:00:21know you take one guy from those teams and it's like, all right
- 1:00:24well if this guy slammed and has -7° a camera in the back in the
- 1:00:28other guys set up like Tom's car, What are we doing work?
- 1:00:31Yeah, you know, I mean, I've seen in that situation.
- 1:00:33If I was Tom I would have to know that like, I would see it,
- 1:00:36I would just destroy them. I'd be like, okay, well actually
- 1:00:39Tom gave me two hugs, this past week, really nice to me.
- 1:00:42I don't know who showed him the podcast where I said, hey man, I
- 1:00:45don't know if you fuck with me. Oh, really?
- 1:00:48He literally gave me a hug and bring that up.
- 1:00:49See him know. I know he was somebody.
- 1:00:52He might he might have listened to that one.
- 1:00:53Somebody must have. Yeah.
- 1:00:55And I was like, God damn it. I shouldn't have said anything.
- 1:00:58But yeah, I don't know. I mean, it did.
- 1:01:00What about ever do one where they put people against each
- 1:01:02other? I think Super, I mean Super Deal
- 1:01:04would be York. Yeah, I mean, to be honest with
- 1:01:07you, that shit was really fun. Wait.
- 1:01:09But when we went they had solo one like people went against
- 1:01:13each other. Yeah, I think from different
- 1:01:15teams that a special stage? No it was the end.
- 1:01:18It was in September. Remember yeah I think we're
- 1:01:21going to this, she gets a certain each.
- 1:01:23I think those work, but it has to be a certain Niche or you
- 1:01:26have to wait for that. Needs to grow more and more and
- 1:01:27more. Well, I mean all that stuff.
- 1:01:30What's happening right now is actually kind of perfect because
- 1:01:32it's like most of the cars that were going to find about kind of
- 1:01:35were all similar. They were low they weren't
- 1:01:38really set up very very properly for drifting.
- 1:01:41They were just more set up to look good and Drift, But now you
- 1:01:45got like Front Street in there. I remember there was another
- 1:01:49team to that was pretty good and their cars were taller and set
- 1:01:52up, right? It's like, okay, so now you're
- 1:01:53bringing these two different like subgenres a drifting
- 1:01:56together, it's crazy. And you're putting them in
- 1:01:58competition with each other. I don't know, see how it goes.
- 1:02:02Very diplomatic. Yeah, I got ya.
- 1:02:04It's gonna get some American. It's gonna be like, okay, we're
- 1:02:07going to have to make like we're gonna have to split this up
- 1:02:09because and that's and that's the thing.
- 1:02:10Like see I think in Japan and I could be wrong because I've
- 1:02:13never been there. I think my perception in Japan
- 1:02:16people more accepting of all that or it's like, oh, we're
- 1:02:19going to go over here. We're going to have RTO today.
- 1:02:21We're gonna have any Sunday but in America.
- 1:02:23It's like nah, this is what we do here.
- 1:02:24Fuck off. You know what I mean?
- 1:02:26I definitely feel like there's an underlining of that.
- 1:02:28I would love a little, Toyota me.
- 1:02:30Meeting that I think is, you know, it's I think everybody's
- 1:02:34got ball joint, bolt on knuckle kits, it's great Wheels falling
- 1:02:39off. Nah, because we all just did on
- 1:02:42the night before but ultimately, what I think is going to really
- 1:02:45push. Your thing is this Army.
- 1:02:47I know it's crazy to think, but those Mustangs in Corvettes are
- 1:02:50just, you have no idea what they're doing right now.
- 1:02:51It's Paving the way for a whole new demographic of like, 40 and
- 1:02:57up. Oh, yeah, yeah, the dad.
- 1:03:00Dad's. Yeah.
- 1:03:01And they're into and then there's ones then they're ones
- 1:03:03that are into like the shit you do.
- 1:03:04Oh no, they're like oh they look at it like waiver it.
- 1:03:09So it's like it's like riding a two-stroke motor cycle or to
- 1:03:13starve dirt bike and I'm like, yeah, that's exactly what it's,
- 1:03:15yeah. Get rid of that V8, you know,
- 1:03:17and I mean they're like, I'm like, there's they're like, why
- 1:03:20would you switch up? I'm like, there's different
- 1:03:22techniques that are open, but you just have to have like a
- 1:03:27different setup for it, you know, and they're interested in
- 1:03:29that. So some people are like, are
- 1:03:31just all about it. That's sick.
- 1:03:33Like, you're the fact that you mentioned like a 40 and up
- 1:03:35crowd, you're talking about H, right?
- 1:03:38Yeah. Not like and they come to the
- 1:03:40school because they're just like, okay, I'm not going to go
- 1:03:42to a normally closed event or something because they're just
- 1:03:45like that. I feel like I fit out a place,
- 1:03:47they openly site. They decide to spit out of place
- 1:03:50or liked all. The wife will buy a four hour
- 1:03:52session for their husband. It's so fun and they asked like
- 1:03:55you're so, how can I get this involved while I'm like it.
- 1:03:57You can go find a Mustang or, you know, you have to read the
- 1:03:59room what they're into. Yeah, you know I mean another
- 1:04:01guys like almond I get a 350 degree or I'm gonna get a G35,
- 1:04:04you know and and but it's cool that they're like They're
- 1:04:08getting into the know. I love that in like it's
- 1:04:11completely different. I don't know what's going to
- 1:04:13come. Again, it sounds cool.
- 1:04:14But there's going to be pros and cons to that eventually.
- 1:04:16It's like, no. I mean, like you're taking all
- 1:04:18my drags? No, no.
- 1:04:19I feel like it would be like those are the guys that are
- 1:04:22probably, I don't know. It's like this or golf, dude.
- 1:04:26Yeah. So then so then like you go do
- 1:04:28this and like they, if this is your hobby then you're going to
- 1:04:31treat it like a hobby that you like doing.
- 1:04:33Yeah, there's definitely a lot of that and we and we do have a
- 1:04:35lot of that to where people are like were mad about Drifting
- 1:04:38coming to Evergreen? Yeah, I think again, I don't
- 1:04:43really go to a lot of the drift Evergreen events because Club
- 1:04:47loose overlaps and sometimes I'm just working doing a different
- 1:04:49gig somewhere but I have gone here and there at a couple of
- 1:04:52them but on my normal class taste sometimes, I'll have
- 1:04:56people that show up to do the normal modified races or the
- 1:04:59late modifieds or endurance racing whatever they do there
- 1:05:02and I'll talk to them and a lot of them were fully aware.
- 1:05:06That drifting is a strong Peter. To keep that track up and go and
- 1:05:12historically keep that stuff and I tell him like I'm pretty sure
- 1:05:14every Drifter that comes here. Sir wants.
- 1:05:17Historically your stuff to still keep going.
- 1:05:19You know it's cool to know that those people have been there
- 1:05:21since like the 50s dude. I was upset about the drag strip
- 1:05:24it E-Town. Yeah, but we I mean like but I
- 1:05:27understand why he did it, you know what I mean?
- 1:05:29Like the overhead, like you could do the drag races unless I
- 1:05:31again, unless I'm wrong. But the way I heard it was a
- 1:05:35company came or whatever. Like it was just a good deal.
- 1:05:37It was a good deal, right? Adam.
- 1:05:38Yeah. And even if you did, do the drag
- 1:05:40strip stuff and you can make a lot of money.
- 1:05:42Well, now you got all the overhead.
- 1:05:43You have to pay all the people, you know?
- 1:05:45And the cost are dress. Yeah, exactly here.
- 1:05:47It's like you just give it off and it's like, and you're going
- 1:05:50to have people that don't agree with it.
- 1:05:51I see it all the time on Facebook.
- 1:05:52Yeah, yeah, but I mean, I think that's just the way it goes, you
- 1:05:55know? I like that.
- 1:05:56They kept what they kept and used it for how they used it.
- 1:06:01Not only the figure. You don't like it.
- 1:06:03No, I like that. They used it though.
- 1:06:05No, that's I just do not like the figure.
- 1:06:07It's not for you. It's not do.
- 1:06:09It for you. It's what would you have rather
- 1:06:11seen? I don't think you could really
- 1:06:13do anything else. Yeah, I mean you just I don't
- 1:06:15know pave every last inch of it or so, I don't know.
- 1:06:18Yeah, I don't know either. I just think I see.
- 1:06:20I know why they did it from a business perspective.
- 1:06:23It makes total sense. Yeah, do it there.
- 1:06:25Everyone can see it. And I get it and if you want to
- 1:06:28see the cool stuff, you go across the street and you go
- 1:06:31watch the road course. Sure.
- 1:06:32That that so they covered every single base.
- 1:06:35Obviously we always want something to get more and more,
- 1:06:37intense, more and more better. You know, I want more difficult
- 1:06:41tracks, I want. But that's because I've been
- 1:06:42doing this for fucking ever. Have you driven the figure
- 1:06:45eight? I draw me like one time but I'm
- 1:06:47just like, but the risk factor is so big there.
- 1:06:50Like if you. Yeah, that's on the wall then
- 1:06:51that's it. Figure eight.
- 1:06:53Yeah, I know I feel the same exact way you do, but when I
- 1:06:55watch Formula D there, I'm like, oh.
- 1:06:57Okay. This is like kind of cool.
- 1:06:58Yeah well I think that's different that's pretty much the
- 1:07:00only thing where I'm like okay this is and the gamblers the
- 1:07:03gamblers are cool because it's setting people up to go to
- 1:07:06Formula Drift. Yeah.
- 1:07:07Because there is people that do that for me, I'm just like okay
- 1:07:10well it's a figure eight. So how can we make this
- 1:07:11exciting? Well, let's just put 2,000
- 1:07:14horsepower fucking cars on it. Then I'll probably be excited
- 1:07:16fireworks. Yeah, exactly, yeah, that's why
- 1:07:18I'm like, I'm like, okay, this is kind of entertaining.
- 1:07:21But yeah. Like I have no interest to drive
- 1:07:23that. I mean, but watching Formula
- 1:07:25Drift Thursday up. It is like is probably as close.
- 1:07:27You're going to go to like monster truck.
- 1:07:29Yes, that's the yeah, monster truck drifting.
- 1:07:32That's how I feel when I was watching for manager and it's
- 1:07:34cool, it is about it. Yeah, you know, but I like what
- 1:07:38I do it and when they did the blood Master Invitational and
- 1:07:42they ran it from the other side, I was cool.
- 1:07:44That was cool. That was cool.
- 1:07:45That looks scary as hell. Yeah, that's why I was cool.
- 1:07:48It was cool. That look terrifying.
- 1:07:49I was cool because of the Vibes. Yeah, they're shoot fire and
- 1:07:53stuff. Yeah, it was like that was like
- 1:07:56that. You know, somebody had to pull
- 1:07:58that stop. Yeah, they got them.
- 1:08:00It'd be really dope. It had the dudes from The Motley
- 1:08:03Crue set on. They're just fucking hey,
- 1:08:05pyrotechnic crew, say no, I made that up but that would be sick
- 1:08:08if they did. That's what I was playing.
- 1:08:09When I met Reese, I was loaded when he was working great and no
- 1:08:13fear moves and I pulled up to the grid and I was like can I do
- 1:08:15a site lab and then he was like, yeah.
- 1:08:18And then I went to turn one and I was like, wait, this looks
- 1:08:21pretty okay. And then I drifted it and then
- 1:08:23he was like what kind of site lap was that now, I'm sorry.
- 1:08:28Because I called loose, you can be a dick and it's okay.
- 1:08:30Yeah. Fucking was like, I mean, yeah,
- 1:08:32me. That was that club lose you do
- 1:08:33that? Yeah.
- 1:08:34No. Fear million or 300 parts or
- 1:08:37slightly nicer that that? Yeah.
- 1:08:38Yeah. Is that the deal dude?
- 1:08:40I love that least. That's it was for me.
- 1:08:42Yo, I earned my right to be a dick.
- 1:08:43You know. They were dicks to me when I
- 1:08:44first started. Yeah, that's fine.
- 1:08:46All right to do it. I feel like it just don't mess
- 1:08:48about it. It keeps the East Coast saying,
- 1:08:51I don't love no fear moves, man. I wish they did more of them.
- 1:08:54I love that parking lot. I think Chris said he's going to
- 1:08:56do something in Ember. Yeah, hope he does because I
- 1:09:00don't know, man. I love that lat.
- 1:09:01No, it's fun. Well, Frankie's car be done.
- 1:09:03That's in a few months. You gotta get that done Champ.
- 1:09:06Here we go. Ha ha.
- 1:09:07Ha every fucking guest, dude. Oh, yeah, we already talked
- 1:09:11about it before every guest is like, it's been like two years.
- 1:09:14I'm like, I thought it was three.
- 1:09:16It's getting ugly. It's going on.
- 1:09:18Trey Ball, dog. Yeah, yeah, look at that.
- 1:09:23That's why I'm pointing at the picture in the office to those
- 1:09:26listening. Oh yeah, we got people.
- 1:09:27Complaining about the shit. Now they're like you guys got to
- 1:09:29get the video on Spotify this and that I'm like listen man.
- 1:09:33Wow that's not that easy. I just described a picture here.
- 1:09:35It's the silver sea cow. Okay front brake locked up.
- 1:09:40I do hand brake locked up. It's basically skidding out of
- 1:09:44control towards the wall towards a wall, but then magically
- 1:09:47Frankie bovina is going to Pilot the cow down the hill and then
- 1:09:51up and over to the next turn. Well, what would we call your
- 1:09:54car? Now, the blue waffle now.
- 1:09:57See, that's, that's really why I fucking did, I guess, dude.
- 1:10:02Everybody got a fucking cruel name except for me?
- 1:10:04No copper nickel. And then copper nickel is not
- 1:10:06cool. That sounds sick?
- 1:10:08Yeah, he's the only one. What's me?
- 1:10:10Or a trout? No wrench route, sounds awesome.
- 1:10:12That sounds pretty good. And then the yellow Goose that's
- 1:10:15sick. You like, it seems like a brand
- 1:10:17that you get over it. Like, like, Bass Pro Shop.
- 1:10:19Yeah. Red truck.
- 1:10:21The red trout become a retro. I personally, I like the copper
- 1:10:24nickel. Oh, I thought that was funny
- 1:10:26because it makes no sense. I am not the blue waffle.
- 1:10:29Now, you're the blue. Waffle can tie.
- 1:10:31It will work on it. I don't like the WASP.
- 1:10:33Ask the audience, if you, if you think Carl's name for his car
- 1:10:37blue waffle. I'm gonna go check the one that
- 1:10:39when I, when this goes, no, don't leave a comment that chat.
- 1:10:41Leave a comment on his photographs on Instagram, feel
- 1:10:43bad. For everyone who doesn't know
- 1:10:44blue waffle has its checking it out.
- 1:10:46There was probably a yeah Google a portion of the internet right
- 1:10:48now that has no idea what the fuck that is.
- 1:10:50You just ruin somebody's life. Next thing another watching 2
- 1:10:53Girls 1 Cup. No.
- 1:10:56Dude, I the way I found that was I overheard my cousin.
- 1:10:58My older cousins. All agree.
- 1:11:00How old are you in? That has been a young bull 14?
- 1:11:03Yeah, you're young. Like, my older cousins were
- 1:11:05like, 21, and 22 and shit. You, look at this and and he was
- 1:11:09at a family party and I heard them in the computer room.
- 1:11:13Nothing beats a. That's like what the fuck?
- 1:11:15And they were like not get out of here, get out of here and
- 1:11:17then I went home and looked it up.
- 1:11:18Nothing beats the Pain Olympics. That won't.
- 1:11:21Wow. You really want their yeah?
- 1:11:23Forgot all about that. Yeah absolutely.
- 1:11:25Sorry. Yeah, there it is.
- 1:11:27Yo, speaking of painful, I'm not sure.
- 1:11:32What are you going? I don't know if this is true and
- 1:11:34is asked to do with drifting specifically D1.
- 1:11:37Okay, I'm not going to say who told me this but I very much
- 1:11:40very much respect this. This is this is an alleged.
- 1:11:43This is an alleged situation. It sounds, I don't know.
- 1:11:45Just by the that just sounds like we should just say it's
- 1:11:48allegedly. So are allegedly.
- 1:11:50There we go. They were like yo I used to tell
- 1:11:53them like yeah. I was really into like watching
- 1:11:54all the Start of the Grand Prix, and all that stuff when I was
- 1:11:57younger and they're all a, this kind of, you know, and then the
- 1:12:00deadly came out today. They did ask him what's in
- 1:12:02there? Just like yeah you know all that
- 1:12:03stuff was staged. Please shut the fuck up bro.
- 1:12:07That's exactly the face. I don't know if they're fucking
- 1:12:10with me to this day and they're probably gonna laugh when you
- 1:12:12hear this but like they were like those All Stage.
- 1:12:15Do you really think like nah they're all good drivers but
- 1:12:17like they all picked who's going to win before like wrestling.
- 1:12:20Yeah shut the fuck up bro. That's what they were telling me
- 1:12:23and I'm like yo! Shut the fuck up.
- 1:12:25Up and yo, by the end of it, they had me convinced.
- 1:12:28And I was like, oh my God, so I'm putting it out there to see
- 1:12:30someone, you know, is I'm gonna go home and I'm gonna see these
- 1:12:34the next day they saw me because I was there working to Gig and
- 1:12:40they were like, you know, how they could see.
- 1:12:41I was just like distraught like because I'm like you mean Kazama
- 1:12:45and taniguchi like now did they were all in on it.
- 1:12:49So they're older than me. So yeah, but they definitely
- 1:12:52like I was like I went home like this is fucked up.
- 1:12:55Life is a line I know. Now I'm like yeah that's like
- 1:12:58realizing like all the pro wrestlers were fake.
- 1:13:01All of a sudden why I knew. I feel like I don't even feel
- 1:13:03like we all knew no, but if you didn't know, Triple H isn't
- 1:13:06getting powers from doing a pedigree or whatever the fuck
- 1:13:09that he does. Sure that was a thing Triple H
- 1:13:12is like signature move was a pedigree.
- 1:13:14I knew that. Yeah but like four hours and and
- 1:13:17and what is the people's elbow going to do?
- 1:13:19How many times you gotta run around the ring before you land
- 1:13:22on somebody? That's unnecessary true.
- 1:13:24I used to always wonder like Why is Hulk Hogan leg?
- 1:13:26Dropping you that bad? Let that leg drop.
- 1:13:29Just kind of I When We Were Young, I think we thought it was
- 1:13:31real though, right? Yeah.
- 1:13:32Watching at my cousin's house. They always used to watch a lot
- 1:13:35of wrestling. You know what I saw?
- 1:13:36You know, what else? I thought was rule d 1 is going
- 1:13:46to be like, yeah, they're bullshitting, you know.
- 1:13:49I want to see somebody who goes could, you know, that's true.
- 1:13:52What if like ruined my whole like what if War Just comes here
- 1:13:55into spaces down there, just like the other you know, too
- 1:13:57much to do too much. No no.
- 1:13:59See we talked a lot about Sochi hits us up.
- 1:14:01What are you guys doing? Like English bro?
- 1:14:04We are you guys talking about? We got to take this down.
- 1:14:08Yeah, take this down shit. Not about it.
- 1:14:10Fuck, red know, your place red button.
- 1:14:12Red button that really could happen.
- 1:14:14It could he walks in here and know your place shuts,
- 1:14:17everything down, dude, I've okay, so sorry in advance.
- 1:14:20Got all of this shit is if that's true.
- 1:14:23It just ruins it for me. A lot does.
- 1:14:25But you know what? It's not going to change to how
- 1:14:27I like it and what I like now, right.
- 1:14:30It would suck it. What's yo and he's like yeah
- 1:14:32think about all the times they were all like ha ha, ha making
- 1:14:34jokes hating each other and just kept convincing me more and more
- 1:14:37and more. So I was just like man against
- 1:14:40man, I hope I hope someone says I'm like nah you're good but
- 1:14:44just like you really think he could withstand being hit with
- 1:14:46that folding chair that many times.
- 1:14:49And before you know it you're like damn this shit really is
- 1:14:51fun. But you know what was true
- 1:14:52though MSC I'm just yeah. So when I heard that was Rosa
- 1:14:57are we're good I didn't care at that point and street-legal is
- 1:15:00good. So your tie like they went
- 1:15:02Street you're talking like the event so like super fast fucking
- 1:15:07like D1 shit. Yeah, like Fuji and all that
- 1:15:10stuff. Yeah, they said early on, I
- 1:15:11wanted maybe got legit somewhere like the one that happened in a
- 1:15:14parking lot. I could see how that one could
- 1:15:15be staged. I love that event, man.
- 1:15:17It's just have people around. Love that.
- 1:15:19I love parking lots. What's wrong with me?
- 1:15:21Your take over kid. I'm real.
- 1:15:22I'm a fucking take over your head or so charger.
- 1:15:24I don't. Give a fuck.
- 1:15:25If I could try it on. Yeah, like I said, yeah.
- 1:15:27Let's go to the track and let's go to the park boots stop.
- 1:15:29Yeah, I could see some Gators somewhat Gator beards.
- 1:15:33I'm like a charger Scat Pack attention, whatever.
- 1:15:35Or however, it's funny because when Frankie was pulling in this
- 1:15:37Pulsar that they're working on? No, I was like he looks.
- 1:15:41So I tell Malcolm like, he looks so weird in there.
- 1:15:43And then Malcolm says it was like a European dude.
- 1:15:47Now, that's like you do. It's how you look when you're in
- 1:15:49a pulsar? Yeah.
- 1:15:50I was like, yeah, I guess Harry on or whatever it is?
- 1:15:53Yeah, it was yeah. That freaked me out because yeah
- 1:15:57a lot of the stuff that I like is because of that Series.
- 1:16:00Yeah, I know it threw me for a loop.
- 1:16:02It really did. I hope, I hope the internet's
- 1:16:04going to be like now, Reese, you're good.
- 1:16:06Yeah, you know what I mean? That I can be like, you know,
- 1:16:08you guys should go check out this podcast where I found out.
- 1:16:11You guys were lying, you know. Yeah, but they may not because
- 1:16:15like the homeboys like really and he's like, really involved
- 1:16:17in drifting. You want to out him, do you?
- 1:16:19No, no. Don't do that.
- 1:16:20Don't do you know, he's your friend, your tell me.
- 1:16:22We got tell me. He was that strong if it's an
- 1:16:26ongoing joke, but man, right for the whole week and I was just
- 1:16:29like, yeah, the whole time it's just WWE.
- 1:16:34So, all right, well I'm going to bring us back because I wanted.
- 1:16:37How often are you how often are you still drifting and stuff a
- 1:16:41lot. Okay, that's good.
- 1:16:42I like it, I like your hat. I still draw it.
- 1:16:44Like my school cars? I drive a good bit, you just
- 1:16:46like fuck it. I'm bored.
- 1:16:47Yeah, I mean I was all part of the reason of like opening the
- 1:16:50school is for me, being able to get access to these cars to just
- 1:16:52be able to rip them, you know, Chelsea.
- 1:16:55Read me that, you know, and it means so like I started the
- 1:16:58school in 2018, right? At the same time I was hoping
- 1:17:02Chelsea open his school. The school of drift over at Pat
- 1:17:05Acres. OK.
- 1:17:06In the Pacific Northwest in Portland.
- 1:17:08All right. He kind of showed me the model.
- 1:17:12We I saw the model already with. Now you can drift 101 in 2017
- 1:17:17and then 2018, he's like yo we should just do it up here and
- 1:17:20then I just started trying to do both.
- 1:17:22And when I realized this, this works X and people were
- 1:17:26listening to what we were doing. Obviously I can't, I definitely
- 1:17:28got a lot of credibility because I was doing so many events and
- 1:17:30so many of these clinics which also and being there and there's
- 1:17:34videos you know how it works. Yeah, I mean, so that definitely
- 1:17:37helped and I'm there a good bit. At least the last March April
- 1:17:41and May I'm sold out. Oh, wow.
- 1:17:45Yeah. Damn.
- 1:17:45So it's going pretty well. Yeah, it's going for the ones
- 1:17:47that I have available. You know.
- 1:17:48I can't really do a lot of weekends because that's when the
- 1:17:50track is actually racing. Yeah.
- 1:17:51But Tuesday through Friday, I try.
- 1:17:53I stay pretty busy. Okay.
- 1:17:54So you do That you Friday and like you want to talk prices and
- 1:17:57stuff on here like well, yeah, so you can come for a mini
- 1:18:01session so it's two hours that's 575 arrived in dry.
- 1:18:06So you just show up, you can bring your helmet if you want,
- 1:18:09you know, ever since covid, I tell people, if you feel more
- 1:18:11comfortable in your own home and bring your own helmet, if not, I
- 1:18:14got hummus for you, you show up and we go through you, jump in
- 1:18:18the car, there's really no classroom or anything like that.
- 1:18:20It's just like we learned. It's a very fall and scrape your
- 1:18:22knee process. Jump in the car.
- 1:18:25And like, you're going to come to realize really quick.
- 1:18:27Look, I thought this was just going to be simple now.
- 1:18:29Yeah, everyone says it, this is a lot harder than I thought and
- 1:18:32I like that now. Yeah, I like that.
- 1:18:34Some people do go home a little defeated, because then they come
- 1:18:36back cuz everyone's like Macho Man or, you know, Macho
- 1:18:39whatever. All right, I want to learn.
- 1:18:42Yeah. You should have seen me in the
- 1:18:43fucking intersection last. I got this shit, but for the
- 1:18:46most part, everybody gets a good idea, good amount of humbling
- 1:18:51happens and then the real learning happens and then I can
- 1:18:54say like, Have a really, really good success rate.
- 1:18:57The 575 almost 95% 99% does that include the car.
- 1:19:01That's with the car. Yeah, and if you do four hours,
- 1:19:04it's 975, okay? 575 for two hours, 975 for four
- 1:19:11hours. What cars are they for?
- 1:19:12Hours of drifting is a fuckload. Yeah, but you're not, I mean,
- 1:19:15you're not driving consistently off the whole time, right?
- 1:19:17Your shop. 30 minutes is stopping for like 15, 20,
- 1:19:20another 30 minutes because we got to let the cars chill out.
- 1:19:23Yeah, yeah, me and that's that's what you would be doing.
- 1:19:25In real life. But to be honest with you, like
- 1:19:27it's a long time. Yeah.
- 1:19:29You know what I mean? Like, I have people to get
- 1:19:30tired, unfortunately. Some people do get car sick
- 1:19:32sometimes. Yeah, I mean, I'm sorry.
- 1:19:34If you guys said it already, does this include tires or yeah.
- 1:19:37Yeah, everything. Holy shit.
- 1:19:39Yeah, everything remember when I wanted to do this?
- 1:19:41Yeah. We came back.
- 1:19:43We came back from Apple Valley her from Granddad Carly.
- 1:19:46I remember, yes, I'm going to do this with a hundred bucks or
- 1:19:48whatever. It was.
- 1:19:49When I told her, you can go to, you can do the, you can do drift
- 1:19:52drift his own drifts Zone. I remember, he did, I rented the
- 1:19:55Z there and there's not really they rented out for a couple
- 1:19:59laps little little instruction on like how to do one or two
- 1:20:03things. Literally he showed me the car.
- 1:20:04I showed I told him, I do have a little bit of a background
- 1:20:08honestly at the end of the trip. Yeah.
- 1:20:10That was more like a rental at the end of the interview was
- 1:20:12like Man, honestly, I the car is usually just for beginner type
- 1:20:16of rentals while they were driving, these is a skidpad they
- 1:20:20wanted not to like me derald. Our other friend Derek like the
- 1:20:24whole group of people who drift? Yeah.
- 1:20:26So this thing was getting a workout briefs.
- 1:20:28They were like, don't use third gear?
- 1:20:30Yeah, bro. That's what they told.
- 1:20:33That's what they told my girlfriend Taylor because I
- 1:20:35rented a lot. I'm like, how much will I don't
- 1:20:37know how many hundred dollars and they're like, oh the SHINee
- 1:20:40time like now, she's good. Yeah, you don't need to show her
- 1:20:42anything. And they told her the same
- 1:20:43thing. You can't go into third gear and
- 1:20:44she's like how am I going to enter?
- 1:20:46Yeah yeah. She was what I was doing was I
- 1:20:48was literally waiting until I wanted to accelerate which is by
- 1:20:53Frankie think I would literally stand Frankie and I'm like and
- 1:20:59then like the it was painful to watch these guys and then
- 1:21:01eventually some you did you shift the third eventually know
- 1:21:04Darryl did Darryl did and he fucking killed shit and I was
- 1:21:07like that's how you're supposed to do this.
- 1:21:10They look great and it sounded great like because it was Like
- 1:21:13the Motions happened. And I was like, God damn it.
- 1:21:15I should have broke the rules. Ha ha like, fuck didn't someone
- 1:21:18say like any? They're like, yeah.
- 1:21:20Like you said, afterwards there afterwards.
- 1:21:22He was like, well, now honestly after seeing you guys do that,
- 1:21:24you could probably work fine. And I was like, yeah, probably.
- 1:21:27I wouldn't have to use a clutch as much.
- 1:21:28Yeah, I think I think those guys.
- 1:21:30They're nice, dudes. I'm hilah do it.
- 1:21:31They're just normal. Normal.
- 1:21:32Guys are just normal to I think they just saw a business
- 1:21:34opportunity. Let's just go for it.
- 1:21:36He's got to change that third year.
- 1:21:37They did think of a couple things I could see like Tires.
- 1:21:41They replace them when I don't want add it to their normal as
- 1:21:44dudes. I think the one guy is a welder
- 1:21:46by trade and then the other guy I forget fuck damn.
- 1:21:49And you can dump. This guy says, I'm sure like the
- 1:21:52overhaul, the overhead cost to run it at that Apple Valley,
- 1:21:55probably lends itself to make it affordable for people.
- 1:21:58Hmm. But the cheapest place that I've
- 1:22:02been able to pull this off as been everything.
- 1:22:04Yeah, anywhere else to show would cost so much more money
- 1:22:06like we're talking like two thousand dollars or some shit
- 1:22:09like that. Yeah and Sylvania.
- 1:22:10I love it. So and a lot of props to that
- 1:22:13through Jason the owner of the track because he just worked out
- 1:22:19such a good deal with me and you just like believes in it.
- 1:22:21I think he just kind of looks out at the more I teach people,
- 1:22:23the more people will go to that track and he's not selfish to,
- 1:22:27he wants people to go here. He understands like that's a
- 1:22:29technical track. It is stands English.
- 1:22:32Town is a little bit more advanced track, so he likes that
- 1:22:35type of relationship. He's always been that type of
- 1:22:37race type driver and organizer. Where he's like, I want everyone
- 1:22:41economy doing this because if you just one track then what I
- 1:22:44kind of like it. So it's a good mindset that he
- 1:22:46has that if you really wanted to, you could do a little tour
- 1:22:49of like the East Coast. Yeah.
- 1:22:51You could include America. Now, Evergreen Pocono, then to
- 1:22:54E-Town, then lot Thompson. Thompson Thompson is the first
- 1:22:58one out of the, to look at cheapest would be Evergreen.
- 1:23:01Pocono in Englishtown. Yeah, just straight line and
- 1:23:04that's literally that you would go from Evergreen to Pocono,
- 1:23:07which would probably take you less than an hour. 31, 30
- 1:23:11minutes, okay, 30 minutes away. And then from there, it's like
- 1:23:14an hour and ten to two English tone to English town and in 40
- 1:23:19minutes back to my house. That would be beautiful.
- 1:23:23Let me just get fired right away.
- 1:23:26Don't go to work anyway. I fucking actually do work.
- 1:23:30I don't know man. It's just that.
- 1:23:32I happen to have a always send me photos from like your little
- 1:23:35makeshift paint booth. Just do the Hut, the Hut as ever
- 1:23:39you call. Yeah, yeah, my neighbor saw it
- 1:23:42and he was like, I talked to my neighbor, he said, what in the
- 1:23:44fuck? And I always want to make sure
- 1:23:47wherever I am. Okay, I'll talk to a neighbor
- 1:23:49and be like if ever anything is a problem, let me know.
- 1:23:53Let me know. I will do absolutely everything
- 1:23:57in my power for you to not need to take this to another level.
- 1:24:01Yeah, that so I was talking to him and literally seconds before
- 1:24:05I'm about to paint, and dump a bunch of chemicals into the air.
- 1:24:07Allegedly, allegedly. Yeah.
- 1:24:10Italy. And then I was like, yeah.
- 1:24:12If it's ever getting kind of loud, just let me know.
- 1:24:14And he's like, yeah, no. I see you guys were burning the
- 1:24:16midnight oil sometimes and I'm like, yeah, that was.
- 1:24:19I can count the amount of times you pass like 10:00 and one of
- 1:24:22them was with Darryl and it was till like 2:00 a.m. and we're
- 1:24:24hitting it back gun. But it doesn't happen often.
- 1:24:28And I said to him, straight up, I was like dude, not dude
- 1:24:32because I was using my grown-up voice.
- 1:24:34I was like sir We don't want to be out there that lady there.
- 1:24:40And he was like not here. I understand, I had a V6 Camaro
- 1:24:43and I was like, oh, makes you kind of got it, man.
- 1:24:47This guy, he kind of gets it. He was really nice.
- 1:24:49He totally gets it. I think he likes it more because
- 1:24:52now he doesn't have to see all my shit outside on a hot.
- 1:24:55It's in the Hut. Yeah.
- 1:24:56But yeah, I work hard and I plan my days so that I can do that.
- 1:24:59Okay, so I guess I like it this much, I don't do anything else,
- 1:25:02like work is work. Work for me, is drifting all the
- 1:25:05time. So that's it, are you okay?
- 1:25:07I wanted to talk about this because I saw one time you're
- 1:25:10posting a lot of stuff about Toyota commercial or like a
- 1:25:13documentary or like a driver background thing.
- 1:25:16Oh, sorry. Like we talked about is, you
- 1:25:18know, he literally, he literally did this for Toyota.
- 1:25:22I do wanna hear about this too though.
- 1:25:23See so so Toyota gr, there were doing like this was I think
- 1:25:29maybe in November, okay? Somewhere in the somewhere.
- 1:25:33In the fall of last year, they needed to do a podcast.
- 1:25:36It was going to be showing so it was like, oh wow.
- 1:25:38The Latino Network, 6-channel 65.
- 1:25:42I think there's telemundo's when he was young, so this was going
- 1:25:44to be shown. I know what Telemundo is they
- 1:25:46get lid on there, dude. Yeah, they both do.
- 1:25:49Yeah, yeah, yeah, they were nice.
- 1:25:51They came in, they brought the gr Corolla, okay, for me to
- 1:25:55drive and attempt to drift, it was really hard.
- 1:25:57See didn't want to take off the traction control like oh wait,
- 1:26:01what? Are you getting anything done,
- 1:26:03how? I mean, it was hard.
- 1:26:04I had to work really hard but we made it happen.
- 1:26:06And there's like, if you, if you know enough drifting, you can
- 1:26:11watch that video, you can see they made movie Magic, huh?
- 1:26:13Yeah, for sure. So you can at least press the
- 1:26:15button, right? And yeah, yeah.
- 1:26:17And they do the whole like 30/70 split, but I mean like, if we
- 1:26:20were to just like, taking everything off and unplugged,
- 1:26:22everything like we would have been like doing something.
- 1:26:24We would have been. Is that a good car?
- 1:26:25Do you like that car? I thought I mean was it fast?
- 1:26:28Yeah. Oh hell yeah, three cylinder.
- 1:26:30That's I apparently Horsepower. Yeah, it's crazy. 100
- 1:26:34horsepower. For anyone that has anyone that
- 1:26:35has an EVO or a Subaru and you're not like stuck on just
- 1:26:38having those Brands like you'll probably go over to us to go to
- 1:26:41GI. I love that thing as a fat, but
- 1:26:43it was pretty cool. And the way they shut down
- 1:26:45Philadelphia at 5:00. So like they can do like this
- 1:26:48whole video shoot that they did at the garage was like gnarly.
- 1:26:52Where can I see this? It's a calm and he's showing you
- 1:26:55go to the YouTube when he was young and it's all in Spanish.
- 1:26:58Yeah, sometimes I see you posting stories and it's all in
- 1:27:00Spanish. Yeah.
- 1:27:02Damn, it raises an international.
- 1:27:04This is It's not that like I just wish I would have as much.
- 1:27:07I didn't do it. Like I don't really do it as
- 1:27:08much as I think. I should.
- 1:27:10Yeah and I mean like I really think I should do that more.
- 1:27:13How's the seam down there? Is it in Colombia?
- 1:27:15Yeah. Is it just school?
- 1:27:16Like there's obviously like going down there, the prices are
- 1:27:22different. The economy's different, the
- 1:27:25taxes when you bring things from out of the country or different
- 1:27:28so that all plays a role that shit suspension, you know, all
- 1:27:31that stuff. So, So like there's ways around
- 1:27:33it but it's like you know. So it's really just comes down
- 1:27:36to a money thing. So I've been to all the Trek to
- 1:27:38one of the tracks that's like the big one called pumpkin seba
- 1:27:41and I've been down there in Bogota and I stood there for a
- 1:27:44while to see if we can make it. But their biggest issues that
- 1:27:46they're like almost 10,000 feet above sea level.
- 1:27:49So the arms are going to run, kind of weird.
- 1:27:51Chains are going to be are going to be an issue at Jesus.
- 1:27:54So then they have other ones. I started looking up cart
- 1:27:57Germans which is like the scart go-kart tracks.
- 1:28:01There's So those so there's an Avenue of doing it.
- 1:28:04But like at the end of the day, if I want something to pop off
- 1:28:07in Colombia like I'm just going to have to either find an
- 1:28:09investor or like I have to go invest my own money to make it
- 1:28:12happen which is going to take time and are there people down
- 1:28:16there that like our into drifting?
- 1:28:18Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:28:19There's a lot of people that I mean, when I say a lot of say,
- 1:28:21like a good solid 20 people. Yeah.
- 1:28:23Like, you know, not that many not.
- 1:28:25Yeah, not not an American Standards.
- 1:28:26So you'd really have to like start a movement down there.
- 1:28:28Yeah and it's there it's just quiet.
- 1:28:31You know, it's Quiet because there's not a place for them to
- 1:28:33go. Yes, a lot of the people that
- 1:28:35are there, they're not really into drifting so it's like you
- 1:28:39know drifting in America is like a poor man's sport.
- 1:28:41You know what I mean? And like down there like the
- 1:28:43people that do have access to the research they're not trying
- 1:28:46to like do that shit. Yeah you know and if they are
- 1:28:48like I don't know. There's probably a reason why
- 1:28:52they're not doing it because they're not making business,
- 1:28:53which I totally get. Like, that's just the way the
- 1:28:55economy is down there. Now, go to Brazil, which I just
- 1:28:58came back from a couple months ago to judge an event Town.
- 1:29:00They're totally different though.
- 1:29:02You're an international fucking Super Stallions.
- 1:29:04International it asks, you just named two different countries
- 1:29:06that were in America? We have Brazil was great.
- 1:29:10Saudi Arabia, was probably the coolest.
- 1:29:14He did that on purpose, it was me.
- 1:29:20Chelsea Von Travis reader. We all went to Saudi Arabia to
- 1:29:24go instructor. That was cool for culture,
- 1:29:27drifting wise, Brazil was like It was awesome.
- 1:29:30It was like imagine a soccer game but just it was all about
- 1:29:33Charlie's probably lose so much enthusiasm.
- 1:29:35It was awesome, it was awesome. So that's so funny.
- 1:29:38How you describe the way that the economy is in stuff and I'm
- 1:29:42felt so in the Philippines I looked up and I tried to find
- 1:29:45drifting right for so long. It's so scarce, but then you
- 1:29:51find like, little hints of it. Like, there's a matching team of
- 1:29:54like Yellow taxicab looking cars per second s13 in 86 and shit,
- 1:29:59and I'm like, that's not easily attainable here.
- 1:30:03So like, where are these guys? Like, what are they doing?
- 1:30:06And there's no like drift tracks or drift events.
- 1:30:08It's either a parking lot or it's like this one track that's
- 1:30:11in Manila somewhere. I forget where it is.
- 1:30:13Yeah. Drifting is very direct like
- 1:30:15totally different at the very different outside of the United
- 1:30:17States. You know, again like you go to
- 1:30:19Chile, I've never been there but like I'm Jesus Christ that was
- 1:30:23another Panama has in Mexico. Has a now I went to Puerto Rico
- 1:30:28for it years and years ago with the JDM will to go see the scene
- 1:30:32at like, it grows everywhere and then you look across, you know,
- 1:30:35in the Philippines like it's it exists.
- 1:30:39It's crazy how now it's it's everywhere.
- 1:30:42Yeah, it's yeah. Literally the adult version of
- 1:30:44skateboarding. Everyone kind of wants to do it
- 1:30:47because everyone has to have That's our, that's mashed true
- 1:30:50action. Like it's definitely what that
- 1:30:53is and it's and it's just I feel like it's an Escape for a lot of
- 1:30:56people. 100%. So like as in my room, my other
- 1:30:59roommate is Jamaican. I bring them up on this podcast
- 1:31:01all the fucking time, right? But he's Jamaican and we drove
- 1:31:04down this tangent on YouTube of Jamaican Automotive YouTube,
- 1:31:09right? It's a lot of drag racing as you
- 1:31:11would expect. I feel like that's just an
- 1:31:12island thing, they love drag racing, that's like bread in the
- 1:31:15culture but then there's a portion of it.
- 1:31:18Where I was like, I want to see what the drifting is like, and
- 1:31:20it's like literally Gymkhana type of stuff like very very
- 1:31:25close. Everything is technical Gymkhana
- 1:31:28like a real sport still. Yeah.
- 1:31:30It's just for some reason in the u.s.a. really didn't, well, if
- 1:31:32we got out across the worn down Auto, I get in trouble.
- 1:31:36Yeah, it kinda is like a real thing.
- 1:31:37You know, I guess, I just think the drifting fits more like the
- 1:31:41American attitude. Yeah, I got in trouble.
- 1:31:43I'd autocross for drifting literally.
- 1:31:46I hit the brake. And they yelled at me because my
- 1:31:49tires are bald. And I feel like they knew like I
- 1:31:52made a turn out of the were there for something else.
- 1:31:54I do I turned out of the tech inspection and the diff is like
- 1:31:59and they're they're like we'll keep an eye on you and then when
- 1:32:02I went off, like the line there was this like long straight into
- 1:32:06a like a long left sweeper. And I like went like that, not
- 1:32:11like I wanted to drift but when I hit the break, the rear broke
- 1:32:14out and I wasn't going to like have it snap back and instructor
- 1:32:17was with me and as soon as Started drifting.
- 1:32:19Who's that? Dude, was loving.
- 1:32:20It feels like oh and I'm like, that's usually.
- 1:32:27Okay. Then he said, get the fuck off
- 1:32:29the trend and he got out of the car and he was like, yeah,
- 1:32:31you're technically not supposed to do that.
- 1:32:32So next time just don't do that. And he got out.
- 1:32:35Yeah. This was an Atlantic City.
- 1:32:36They let anything fly down there.
- 1:32:38Some people like, some people just don't like, I met some
- 1:32:40people. That just don't like your thing.
- 1:32:42Yes, I'll do that are just like they just look think we're the
- 1:32:45scum of the earth. Yeah.
- 1:32:46It's hilarious. And the thing is, is like what
- 1:32:48are We going to do to the texture of that old Airfield.
- 1:32:50It's at Bader field in a, that's kind of get knocked down and
- 1:32:53turn into something and it's going to be supposedly a Formula
- 1:32:551 track. There's gonna be a lot.
- 1:32:57I think there's going to be over the next couple of years.
- 1:33:01I think people really need to understand that our there's a
- 1:33:03lot of drifters that have grown up and a lot of people have got
- 1:33:06into drifting. The now have money.
- 1:33:09Yeah. Going to change the face and
- 1:33:10they're going to just be sure. You like in Virginia, like
- 1:33:13there's a group of people who bought a race track down there,
- 1:33:17you know, any And like they're going to like incorporate all
- 1:33:20the original drifting that's going on with it plus more.
- 1:33:22I think it's like I forget what it's called.
- 1:33:24It's escaping my mind right now, but it's like south south,
- 1:33:29Virginia, or something like that.
- 1:33:31Closer to Langley are like west of Langley Motorsports.
- 1:33:34Yeah, I'm not sure there's just so much but if you talk to a lot
- 1:33:36of those people and I think Chelsea said in one of his
- 1:33:38podcast or something he was doing that like if you're not
- 1:33:41allowing drifting to come in like you're just that's a
- 1:33:44Channel of Revenue that channel Revenue, you know, and they
- 1:33:47don't want it to take Anything away from anyone else.
- 1:33:49It just, just let us have our space.
- 1:33:51The videos that I like are from like when I first started
- 1:33:55drifting we're watching. Lime Rock.
- 1:33:57Butterfly track. I like that track.
- 1:34:00And I get to play it on a Seto from time to time but since they
- 1:34:05I don't know if they have opened it up for drifting.
- 1:34:07I feel like I see videos of it happening and I'm like, wait,
- 1:34:09what the fuck? I think there's been events
- 1:34:10there. I think I'll strong group that's
- 1:34:13been pushing that as FCP Euro, they have The Proving Grounds
- 1:34:17there you have. Because I guess it's that it's
- 1:34:19but it's like a autocross. Yeah, not across.
- 1:34:22I think there was drifting for something I think if they're
- 1:34:24slowly going to like, win their way into it.
- 1:34:27And I understand there's a lot of tracks that don't immediately
- 1:34:29want to give the space The Drifters.
- 1:34:31Because one, they don't understand it, they don't
- 1:34:33understand the rules. They don't know how to set up
- 1:34:35their layouts so it doesn't mess up the track.
- 1:34:38Mmm. There's like a real, a lot of
- 1:34:39responsibility as to go into like, oh, we're going to have an
- 1:34:41event here. Let's set up to a we don't
- 1:34:44destroy the track because then they won't invite us back.
- 1:34:46Yeah, to set it up where it's still.
- 1:34:48Challenging and and can push the driver's ability and I think
- 1:34:52that's really more. What I've started to become more
- 1:34:55about. Yea though, the way that you
- 1:34:57just kind of describe that shows like yeah, I want to push
- 1:35:01people's like I want to push her limits like even when I went to
- 1:35:05this this event that I judge like three weeks ago in Atlanta
- 1:35:08I judge this cash event so it's competition drifting and I was
- 1:35:12telling Frankie like it was a it was over at a linear and there's
- 1:35:16just one inner clip that they have to And I hate the fact that
- 1:35:19you can see the inner clip to me, that's easy.
- 1:35:22Mmm. So I made sure, I put blocks up
- 1:35:24to block the inner clip. So, unless you committed on
- 1:35:26throttle on the previous outer zone, you won't see the inner
- 1:35:30clip and you'll mess up so you get rewarded for not being a
- 1:35:34pussy. Yeah.
- 1:35:35And that's what I enjoyed. I enjoyed you got to make it
- 1:35:38interesting but you have to make it in general said that track
- 1:35:40had a huge fucking bank. He loved it because yeah, there
- 1:35:44was, there was a, but we used it for the initiative, for this
- 1:35:46call, we use it for the initiation, then Everything was
- 1:35:48on the inside, but it was like an hour when Dale looking know,
- 1:35:51her until had more Bank, kind of.
- 1:35:53But this was this was definitely momentum and inertia driven
- 1:35:56toward the end of the layout. Okay.
- 1:35:57So it was a good mix of like what we would consider American
- 1:36:00and I guess Javanese style. Yeah, I'm where is this Atlanta?
- 1:36:05This was in Atlanta is right next to Rhoda, there's so many
- 1:36:08like competitions popping up which we got Riverside that's
- 1:36:11coming up now, in Englishtown and over in Salem.
- 1:36:14Indiana, or something like that on.
- 1:36:16Okay, so that's like 50 k. Something like that.
- 1:36:19Yeah. You know what I mean?
- 1:36:20That's, that's a whole other world.
- 1:36:21I feel like Josh is going to start getting into.
- 1:36:23A lot of these Josh was had already said he was like, at
- 1:36:27least he went to the game, but then that's where the engine
- 1:36:30does for the engine blew. And again, I think what's going
- 1:36:32to happen, I think, and this isn't everyone.
- 1:36:35I'm not saying everyone's going to have the financial freedom to
- 1:36:38do this, but I think what's going to start happening is
- 1:36:41there's people that have different boards for different
- 1:36:43things. Hmm.
- 1:36:44And drifting, there's going to be people that I have the
- 1:36:47financial Freedom that they going to have different cars,
- 1:36:49depending what they're doing all, I'm doing final Bell, I'm
- 1:36:51bringing this s13, I'm doing this competition, I'm bringing
- 1:36:54my E36 or E46, with a V8. They're going to cater, what
- 1:36:58they're doing to what they have again.
- 1:37:00I'm not saying everyone has the money to do that and so that's
- 1:37:03how you're going to start seeing and that's the evolution of
- 1:37:05drifting. You know.
- 1:37:06It may not be your Evolution because we may not have it.
- 1:37:09But it's someone's, you know. I mean that's that's a reality
- 1:37:12Carl. What's gonna be your second car?
- 1:37:14Another is 300 more than one J or chase for high-powered.
- 1:37:18Put it on Jen yours, as it's going to stay G.
- 1:37:21So I could just get normal driving in dude.
- 1:37:25I honestly think I could do a lot with that puppy.
- 1:37:27She like you should try BMW, it's just like, oh no.
- 1:37:30Stop my luck with BMWs deunan. I would die.
- 1:37:35I would hate myself just for the drifting.
- 1:37:36That's one know, one of these days, when I get an alignment, I
- 1:37:41want Frankie to do that tow arm thing or tow strap.
- 1:37:44I think you have that problem, though.
- 1:37:46I just want to be, I just want to, I'm curious.
- 1:37:48Like how many opportunities am I going to have to see that?
- 1:37:50I just want to see what it does under compression and I'm pretty
- 1:37:53sure it toes in. Yeah, but it's a Toyota.
- 1:37:54So yeah. Probably toes in yeah because
- 1:37:56it's better. Yeah.
- 1:37:58Has he does that too? Yeah yeah.
- 1:38:00But so does an E36 these look like a mouse.
- 1:38:03Oh yeah. Computer mouse that's been
- 1:38:05brought up more than once. I think it looks more like.
- 1:38:08All right, I'm gonna bring something over right now that I
- 1:38:10kind of not been saying on purpose.
- 1:38:12What I always thought as he look like a pickle.
- 1:38:15Pickle pickle. Yeah and that's this reaction.
- 1:38:18I get Every time I say it kind of tickles DV now yeah maybe
- 1:38:24like okay here cut the pickle down the middle.
- 1:38:27Lay down profile. Yeah I think I'm thinking of a
- 1:38:32pickle Malcolm cut to me. I think we're pickle.
- 1:38:34That looks like this, like a gourd, like a Planter's Peanuts.
- 1:38:38Yeah, I don't know. I just, I think is he always
- 1:38:41used to look at the hood and be like this shit's a pickle.
- 1:38:44I think, I think the Z looks like the little plastic cars
- 1:38:47that you people shouting. Oh, you paint colors on.
- 1:38:49It's the car that you draw when your two-year-old to the guy who
- 1:38:52has record, the guy who has the best pickle 350s.
- 1:38:55He's definitely pickle Rick. Nah, what's this dude?
- 1:38:58He's over in drift into I think. I know what is it, green?
- 1:39:03I think it's green now but it was like Berkeley pick or, you
- 1:39:07know what I mean? Yeah, it was that.
- 1:39:08Yo, let's talk about drift Indy those days.
- 1:39:10Have you seen those of us that they have that Street League
- 1:39:12event that they have arouse? This, what breaking is doing and
- 1:39:15stuff? Because I see them drift.
- 1:39:16Yes, I love whatever. What they're doing is sick.
- 1:39:19That's like, that's another not it's Ohio, Ohio.
- 1:39:23Yeah, it's up over there, bro. It's over.
- 1:39:25What are they? Is there a name for all those
- 1:39:27great lake States? I don't know.
- 1:39:29They have like a Tri-State. Well, I know when I sit, when
- 1:39:31someone says drift into to me, I think.
- 1:39:33Okay, Carol. Hi.
- 1:39:34Oh yeah, yeah yeah. So that's just straight west
- 1:39:37midwest. A lot of the friends that I have
- 1:39:38or well, not a lot of the friends.
- 1:39:40I only have a few friends that are from that area, but like,
- 1:39:43they'll drive over there. And I'm like, damn, that looks
- 1:39:45sick, like the LIE. Everybody's just like Like, you
- 1:39:48know, their cars look. So they're all styled up, it's
- 1:39:50great. I don't think, and they do mix
- 1:39:52engines and stuff like that. Like, like, you would think
- 1:39:55traditionally wouldn't go, but like everyone's.
- 1:39:57So Cho is just goes but I mean like if you look up all their
- 1:40:01videos and stuff, bro, it's just stylists are aesthetically.
- 1:40:04It looks just as good as going to like, maybe something that's
- 1:40:08like a, like a final battle type thing that must be where the
- 1:40:11breaking guys are going. Yeah.
- 1:40:13I think I don't know because there's no there.
- 1:40:15There he goes. Do you have all these
- 1:40:16competitions? Yeah.
- 1:40:18Are in Psych really fun? No one takes it too serious.
- 1:40:21So it so you get it looks like something you saw way back in
- 1:40:25the day. I mean, it's in the midwest so
- 1:40:27they got to have good Google good-looking cars.
- 1:40:29Yeah, that's where all the good-looking cars were here.
- 1:40:31Always but yeah, I'm looking at. This is good around here, I
- 1:40:34don't know, dude, but I should move crazy - looks good.
- 1:40:39I'll never forget going to Chicago at the for the first
- 1:40:42final bout and going to like the car show and just being like,
- 1:40:45what the fuck is going on right now?
- 1:40:48All I thought I was in Japan. Yeah, I was like this is so
- 1:40:50weird. I never seen so many like but
- 1:40:53look how perfect cars. Look, I think, I think now, like
- 1:40:57I always hate when people say like American jerk thing is
- 1:41:01like, trashy, looking and stuff like that, but I'm like, I mean
- 1:41:04not now, that's what Japan looks I look at it now.
- 1:41:06Like now there's people all over Texas, Ohio, all over the climax
- 1:41:11is a state. I have in cars, you have until
- 1:41:13up events are down there. They have a good-looking car.
- 1:41:16So, American Jury thing is now I don't think it's It what
- 1:41:19everyone thought it was. Yeah.
- 1:41:20We had like the muscle car era and stuff like that and it was
- 1:41:23like a haha but it wasn't going to last like now there's able to
- 1:41:25take a lot of pride in their cars and they looks really good.
- 1:41:28Yeah it seems like there's a lot more of those people now than
- 1:41:31more than ever for sure. Because usually it was the
- 1:41:34opposite. Yeah.
- 1:41:35And we all drag good. Now, I'm not saying we're on
- 1:41:38their level. Yeah.
- 1:41:39But we're good. Like we can hang.
- 1:41:41Yeah, I feel like if you I feel like everybody, this is my V
- 1:41:45weird. I don't know if you agree with
- 1:41:47this but everybody Buddy that I was in the that is currently
- 1:41:51still in the drifting thing is like if you're not fully into
- 1:41:55it, at least there is a bar minimum like, man.
- 1:41:58Chris. We don't really, this isn't like
- 1:42:00our first date and Darryl, this isn't like our first thing but
- 1:42:03that, that group of three, those are the ones that I really drift
- 1:42:06and want to drive with even growing up with.
- 1:42:09Yeah, we're going to be drifting, right?
- 1:42:11No door to door that's Darrell and then Chris, yeah, that
- 1:42:14sounds pretty good. Yeah, that sounds right.
- 1:42:18And then like, you know, jobs happen and shit and we realize
- 1:42:21money's a fucking thing and then we're like, fuck.
- 1:42:25But let's still do this. And so that's why we're where we
- 1:42:27are now where we're not like fucking some of the, I don't
- 1:42:30know, just the level of progression sometimes when you
- 1:42:32see a lot to do your priorities to yeah.
- 1:42:35Yeah, I wanted to live a very different life and that's
- 1:42:37exactly what I got. Yeah.
- 1:42:39You'd like some people will prioritize.
- 1:42:43Other things like going out drinking this and that well, you
- 1:42:46also don't want that stuff. Then you're not gonna get to
- 1:42:49where you're also. Don't want it.
- 1:42:50Don't want to, like, cut yourself short.
- 1:42:51I would never trade some of the experiences and some of the
- 1:42:53people that I met in college, I ever again, and that was when I
- 1:42:55had an s13, I was only just that college hanging out, partying,
- 1:42:58doing, whatever. And that's 13s and garage.
- 1:43:01I don't know you were doing that for a bit.
- 1:43:02Yeah, I would have to say drifting, probably kept me out
- 1:43:05of a lot of trouble. I don't want to say as far as
- 1:43:08saving my life because I never have.
- 1:43:10But I mean, it could have I mean, like the friends that I
- 1:43:12had and The things that I was involved with.
- 1:43:14Yeah. Sea drifting keeps you.
- 1:43:16So so focused on like I gotta save up.
- 1:43:19I gotta see if it gives you something to like you know what
- 1:43:21I mean? Like try to reach it or so you
- 1:43:24don't have time to really think about anything else.
- 1:43:26And honestly like all of my friends in high school the
- 1:43:28majority of them whole have kids and stuff like that.
- 1:43:30And I realized really quickly it's possible to have kids and
- 1:43:35still do this if you're financially set for that.
- 1:43:38Yeah. That's a reality.
- 1:43:39Yeah, I was not. So if I wanted it now, So if I
- 1:43:43wanted to do that I couldn't I couldn't do that.
- 1:43:45Yeah. Like going to Saudi Arabia and
- 1:43:47shit. Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean the
- 1:43:49biggest to Chelsea environment everybody for letting me to do
- 1:43:51that you know I mean but it's like I would have to say like
- 1:43:55yeah you have to pick and choose how you do things, you know?
- 1:43:57Because for a while there like I would just get up and go
- 1:43:59wherever work will take you. And that's what it requires you
- 1:44:01become when you are driving, whe not when you're driving when
- 1:44:03you're working on your own and you're trying to start a
- 1:44:06business and and this type of social media world that we're
- 1:44:08dealing with them. What now you bring that up, not
- 1:44:11many people have kids It's it's kind of weird, man.
- 1:44:17What I never thought about that, but like, in this community,
- 1:44:20there's like a handball team as one.
- 1:44:22Congratulations, Jeff. I hope one day, we get to meet
- 1:44:24each other and I'm happy. Yeah.
- 1:44:25But Jeff is one of those people that really happy for the guy,
- 1:44:28but he's one of those people who's I feel like he's in a more
- 1:44:31in a position where he can do that.
- 1:44:33Yeah, you know, I mean, but like okay, there's one name, name a
- 1:44:36couple more. Yeah, Frankie bovie.
- 1:44:38No no, no kid yet. Mmm.
- 1:44:41But it's a thing it's kind of weird, right?
- 1:44:43You know, we all just kids that don't grow up.
- 1:44:46I think that's what is this? Never never.
- 1:44:48I had, I had had a deep thought about that the other day because
- 1:44:51I was everyone fucking road trip.
- 1:44:54Etiquette people don't just pass out on me right away.
- 1:44:58Give me something to think about for the rest of the trip.
- 1:45:00Fuck that shit is annoying but Alan Alan woke up.
- 1:45:04What's up Alan we brought Alan alone.
- 1:45:06Dude it was this there was this closet at the Airbnb.
- 1:45:09That was literally massive. I would say it was a little
- 1:45:12hairy chested. Yeah, I stayed in are at an
- 1:45:14Airbnb in. There was a closet to the right
- 1:45:16of my bed. Like, if I open my eyes and I'm
- 1:45:18on my side, I'm looking right into this closet and there's
- 1:45:20mirrored doors. And I woke up one morning and
- 1:45:22Alan like slides, I'm open and I forgot he was in there and I was
- 1:45:26like, dude! What the fuck?
- 1:45:28Yeah. The closet they went to sleep.
- 1:45:30And I thought about this because I was like, when am I going to
- 1:45:35hit that age? Because in the line of work that
- 1:45:37I just work in and I work in an office don't think about it.
- 1:45:40Yeah. I like, am I ever going says,
- 1:45:42who says we have to, I don't want to have to and I don't need
- 1:45:45your, we'll talk about. Are you talking about the age of
- 1:45:47where? This will get old to me and I'm
- 1:45:50going to be like, what am I going to do?
- 1:45:53As long as you're still having that right now?
- 1:45:55I think like mean, I'm 38, the cars that I will.
- 1:45:57I look at my dad to, my dad has had a 911 that was the car that
- 1:46:02he owed an odd, right when he was a kid, right?
- 1:46:04So what I do and I oughta is like that shit like Esther teens
- 1:46:08and aren't the cars that I liked watching. and I feel like, Yeah,
- 1:46:13you'll see like a new Porsche or a new BMW drive, and you're
- 1:46:16like, yeah, that's sick, right? But here's this is what I like,
- 1:46:19here's the thing with you Carl, what used to be that person?
- 1:46:22I just wanted who you want a new car all the time.
- 1:46:25I just wanted to experience at all.
- 1:46:27He's more of like the working on his driving.
- 1:46:30Hmm. So I don't think you're really
- 1:46:32gonna well, I'm kid it up. That's what I want.
- 1:46:36That's what I wanted you to get it up but I just I just wanted
- 1:46:38to be kitted up I missed. Okay, mr.
- 1:46:41Bought this is a big deal for Or me.
- 1:46:42Okay. I put a body kit on my is 300.
- 1:46:45It's outside congrats and and it's been my daily driver for so
- 1:46:48long and like I stopped daily driving it and I just wanted it
- 1:46:51to look like a drift car like like my older cars and stuff and
- 1:46:55I feel like that's why I wasn't liking it.
- 1:46:57Like I wasn't kept it. Yeah man.
- 1:47:00He has a history of any selling cars.
- 1:47:03Like I'm gonna do this and that and then you're one of those
- 1:47:05guys. Yeah, I was dude, literally, I
- 1:47:07think he broke it though. Like, you know, well, the
- 1:47:09problem is, I don't know. It's the problem is Is that?
- 1:47:14Those cars. Sometimes, you build them so
- 1:47:16fast and like, you put so much time into them in such a rapid
- 1:47:19rate that you just don't like looking at it anymore.
- 1:47:21You're like, all right. Well, I did all of that work now
- 1:47:23I'm kind of done now, I work on this shit for so long.
- 1:47:27Everything you guys see on the car.
- 1:47:28If you follow me on Instagram or whatever everything you see that
- 1:47:31changes on it engine, body work, whatever I do it.
- 1:47:35So now even if I think about selling the car and I look at
- 1:47:39something like an ad for a 240 or or like an R32 Skyline sedan,
- 1:47:43Dan or whatever and I'll look at it.
- 1:47:45And I'm like, so I would have to do all of that stuff again.
- 1:47:50I mean, part of them, it is but I'm not done.
- 1:47:53Also, like, with this one, I'm the same.
- 1:47:54That shit's crazy to me, like I would never want to do that
- 1:47:57again. Well, you you who are we talking
- 1:48:00to with this? I think it was Brian, hob.
- 1:48:02That's all preference with with Frankie.
- 1:48:04I think Brian was like, I think you're just burnt because you've
- 1:48:07been working on this same exact car.
- 1:48:10Oh, no, that's not it. For 10 years.
- 1:48:12And I was like, that's interesting.
- 1:48:14Dane because I don't the thought of changing the car like so
- 1:48:18let's make an arc 7fc. Fuck that, I'll never drift
- 1:48:22again. If you told me like we're going
- 1:48:23to part this out so you can get a different car.
- 1:48:27I'll never drift again. I'm not doing that shit about
- 1:48:28would. But would you get another car
- 1:48:30and still keep that car? I just I'm saying like we
- 1:48:32already put all the work into your I mean like I know how I
- 1:48:35wouldn't want to get rid of it at that point.
- 1:48:36Yeah. Like I'm not restarting the shit
- 1:48:38maybe like shelf and just drive it around looking like that.
- 1:48:41If if I like had a Private garage where I can work on my
- 1:48:46car. Like, let's say I had a house
- 1:48:47and I had in my own garage and make it a project or something,
- 1:48:51I mean to demean, you have a, you have a couple you're not,
- 1:48:56don't act like you don't have more cars.
- 1:48:58What the I have another sjz and that one but I can't work on it.
- 1:49:01So that the point proven and then that one, would you ever
- 1:49:04want to venture into a different chassis?
- 1:49:06Just just to see what it feels like?
- 1:49:07No because that's not your twist, right?
- 1:49:10You're just like, you don't care?
- 1:49:11Yeah. Well, the thing is like also, I
- 1:49:13only S chassis really well, that's a lie.
- 1:49:16I'm starting to like Toyota's a little bit like Jay-Z act like,
- 1:49:18it's because of the Cressida. Yeah, I went, I knew it, I'm not
- 1:49:22a fan, of course it is. But neither am I, I'm a fan of
- 1:49:25like, the jzx. Like I came and say that, but
- 1:49:27they're cool though. Really?
- 1:49:29I don't think I'd ever own one, but they're cool.
- 1:49:30You know what? I really like right now is like
- 1:49:32the the sedan G37 S. Yeah.
- 1:49:35My friend has one of those. I like the like I drift that
- 1:49:38that was a high-ranking like whatever the fuck when The M3
- 1:49:44came out that was like, a really good competitor to that car.
- 1:49:48Stop not dead as look at Market statistics like money-wise and
- 1:49:53how its old and like the ratings that Motor Trend gave it they
- 1:49:57like better than they look better than a coup in 2010.
- 1:50:00Yeah, much better. The 37th look way better that
- 1:50:02they're I'm talking about the 37 not like, not a 35, not not that
- 1:50:06the third and the and the geez, the 370s are nice.
- 1:50:10I like this out, way more fast as fuck.
- 1:50:13I only When I see some disease at all those cars, really.
- 1:50:17That's the only one I like and I barely like it because I'm just
- 1:50:20like it's a pickle and I just said it for really good to say.
- 1:50:24I did I did my mom, Mike Dave's, but that's the face.
- 1:50:28I had what they told me it was fake.
- 1:50:32I actually I actually do like 350Z, you drink was a fucking
- 1:50:36it, what is it Tokyo Drift? That's probably why, and you
- 1:50:39drove mics that are super easy. Yeah, they're great to drive the
- 1:50:42float a bit much. yeah, I don't mind the engine but just they
- 1:50:46just started to like Like, for me, like if I want, if I'm going
- 1:50:51to party in a car, I'm getting it through 50 0, and as chassis.
- 1:50:54Because this things float, what do you mean by a floating
- 1:50:57though? Like, when I come into a corner,
- 1:50:59like the side B, very stable and just kind of Glide, so it
- 1:51:02doesn't feel like it's yeah. Well I mean but what so when you
- 1:51:06roll in on throttle when you're going through a turn like it
- 1:51:09increases it goes deeper. Yeah.
- 1:51:12But like when I jump into a BMW and I do that Like it's on
- 1:51:17Attack Mode. Like if I wanted to, if I wanted
- 1:51:19like, get into that pocket and get real close, I just have to
- 1:51:21give it throttle and rock. It comes right up in there.
- 1:51:23That's the ultimate drug addiction.
- 1:51:25So, I mean, I hate the way they look.
- 1:51:28I don't want to love the way they dry.
- 1:51:29Kind of like the way BMWs look, but not for drifting.
- 1:51:32Yeah. That's what I'm saying?
- 1:51:33Yeah, I have to compare thing to do things.
- 1:51:35I didn't like cars at all. Yeah.
- 1:51:36Unless it looks like crazy. I'm just like.
- 1:51:39Yeah, I think I know the only reason I started were learning
- 1:51:41how to work on drift cars is because I'm like, well I can't
- 1:51:44pay for this shit. So I got guys have to learn how
- 1:51:45to figure this out. That's how most people are in
- 1:51:48this kind of how it's me into it.
- 1:51:49Other than that, I wasn't into any of that or, you know, I got
- 1:51:52Honda specifically just to flip him.
- 1:51:53So, I could go to 40s because I knew that's what was hitting in
- 1:51:56Philly. At the time was on The Hondas
- 1:51:58and all my Spanish friends were buying Honda's like idiots.
- 1:52:00I was like, I was doing to 40s and at the time there were 600
- 1:52:03$700 $800, they're cheap. Yeah, you know, as far as were
- 1:52:07like, $1500, you know, I mean, like, but we didn't know what
- 1:52:11the hell we were doing that that everybody talks about those
- 1:52:13gold. Yeah, but no everyone sucked.
- 1:52:15Everyone's so, Talk back down. Yeah.
- 1:52:17Like everybody talks about the good times.
- 1:52:18I'm like, yeah, I remember we all look good for like 3 seconds
- 1:52:21until we would go out there and look like complete assholes.
- 1:52:24Didn't know what we were doing destroying these kits.
- 1:52:26Think we didn't know anything. Yeah, you know, I mean like that
- 1:52:30the golden era is that we just got to look like that for a
- 1:52:32little bit. But what was that are over at
- 1:52:34Brand back? There was a chaser Arrow.
- 1:52:36Does that ring a bell? Yes, sir, Aaron.
- 1:52:38Yeah dude, that was the name, right?
- 1:52:41We brought this up the other day on a podcast or something.
- 1:52:44I think there maybe. But I couldn't remember the name
- 1:52:47but then I saw that company. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they values
- 1:52:50are go to. Yeah, that was like the go-to
- 1:52:52body, KGW member JG W in Virginia 240SX motoring.
- 1:52:57Yeah, they're still around, they're still around.
- 1:52:59Jgw was a thing. There is there are all kind of
- 1:53:02just like stopped answering the phone one day and then that was
- 1:53:06it. I think I the websites data
- 1:53:08might be over now. For is 300, everybody had a fine
- 1:53:11line tuning bien kit. That was the one, right?
- 1:53:14That was that was that one? It was NBN knockoffs were like
- 1:53:17the thing in my era. Yeah, I didn't even have being.
- 1:53:20Yeah, that was the thing. Just weren't doing it.
- 1:53:22I didn't like, I like the type X look.
- 1:53:25I like the vertex look on the s13, but then I met Frankie and
- 1:53:29he's the only one that I knew that had to be in kid, that
- 1:53:32looked on the ground and like, the wheels were really big,
- 1:53:36right? And, like, I always just did 17
- 1:53:38squared because I just like little, like, I drove it around
- 1:53:41a lot and like when I saw that, I was like, oh, I guess that's
- 1:53:44what BN is supposed to be. I'm seventeen's for a while.
- 1:53:47I couldn't even imagine you driving around 1,000 teens.
- 1:53:49I was very lucky and I had it was lower than that.
- 1:53:52I had to team axe Cuts because II got okay.
- 1:53:56I had to D-Max kids early on but that's couldn't have.
- 1:53:58I didn't have like the cool girls to go with it.
- 1:54:00So I feel like I just fake the fun.
- 1:54:02I didn't even realize access hard to get right now.
- 1:54:04So yeah, I didn't realize how awesome I had it when they sent
- 1:54:07me the older. Kids, what was that?
- 1:54:09Like back then? Like when you were Pro you were
- 1:54:11like my first of all, like So there is this team that I was a
- 1:54:17part of that. Chelsea was a part of called
- 1:54:19Drift Bergen. Oh, I think I've seen so they
- 1:54:25brought me in and they were sponsored by Dunlop tire.
- 1:54:27So I our Leon got put on like I've been on be serious and
- 1:54:31cooler since 2007. Like, that's how long I like I
- 1:54:35haven't like that's how much time I put in with that company.
- 1:54:38Mmm. And then Dunlop tires DC-10 ones
- 1:54:41like we used to get those by the truck by the truck full.
- 1:54:45That was the first Tire ever had DC 101 on on my Integra.
- 1:54:49It was like it's not a super summer tire.
- 1:54:53No, I didn't know anything about this tires.
- 1:54:54Yeah their desires are ultra high performance.
- 1:54:57Yeah. Well so there were there were
- 1:54:58great. Yeah it was we did a whole bunch
- 1:55:00of like they still do those Works magazine demos.
- 1:55:03Now we did so many like, H ins, we did all that stuff and then I
- 1:55:09was going to go into doing an Opie.
- 1:55:12Because that was like the professional series back, then
- 1:55:14was no P drift and there was Formula Drift.
- 1:55:16But at the time you're like well what am I going to go with no PR
- 1:55:19Formula Drift? Well, nobody had the bigger name
- 1:55:22at the time so a lot of people were jumping on newbie.
- 1:55:24It's know P. How do you spell that and OPI
- 1:55:27they used to do drag racing used to be a huge like and then it
- 1:55:31just seems moved into their dream.
- 1:55:32Yeah. Then they went back, rub the
- 1:55:33stuff like that. They were like going legit.
- 1:55:35Yeah they were like eligible. Yeah.
- 1:55:37Huh. So that's what I was going to do
- 1:55:38is that and then die never ended up developing because they ended
- 1:55:41up going. Bankrupt and then with them, I
- 1:55:45got to go to, I got to go to Bermuda with those guys to go
- 1:55:47over there, to do a drift them over there like in like 2008 or
- 1:55:51seek is fuck, what the hell yo and you know there's so many
- 1:55:55people that are my age that have done just as much cool shit.
- 1:56:00That you just don't know about? Yeah.
- 1:56:02Well we gotta get em on here. You know I mean like you know
- 1:56:04like someone like are so like I grew up watching it like
- 1:56:07American drifting for me was drift Alliance.
- 1:56:09Yeah, like, Turk and turn. Whoa, no, no no, yes, no.
- 1:56:13Because it was a hamster, didn't come in yet.
- 1:56:15That's what they call them was Hampshire because he was from
- 1:56:17New Hampshire. So, Hampshire wasn't around yet.
- 1:56:20There is Ryan, has on a some other dude, who is like a Stunt
- 1:56:23Driver, or something like that, from the original bad as hell or
- 1:56:26something like that. Not stay hungry, which is a
- 1:56:28second video. So that's the one I Used to
- 1:56:30religiously watch, but you would watch like, all of these dudes,
- 1:56:34it was like a skateboard video. Yeah, that's that's what it was
- 1:56:36for us. And then you have people like
- 1:56:38Carlucci's, who? Like, I don't know if many
- 1:56:40people knew who car Lucha's, but like, if you go watch Tony
- 1:56:43Angelo, he's as buddy. There carlucci has gone to like
- 1:56:46Central America and drifted a tracks down there and she like
- 1:56:49nobody even knows, you know, I mean, like there's so many dudes
- 1:56:51that have done so much cool shit and try blowing and drifting
- 1:56:53that just either, they're too old and you don't know about,
- 1:56:56but like, yeah, now people see it but like, because of YouTube
- 1:56:59and all that but that's just Going on for like I feel like
- 1:57:01it's only YouTube guys doing that shit now.
- 1:57:03Yeah. One before it wasn't.
- 1:57:04Yeah. My favorite like Japan.
- 1:57:07Video was the knock around Rio running Hit & Run.
- 1:57:12Yeah. Hand to.
- 1:57:13Yeah, that video was sick. You know?
- 1:57:15I mean, it was like, it was a I love skater videos.
- 1:57:18I really don't like it reruns of those where they don't always
- 1:57:20get those. Yeah, big shout out to Scott,
- 1:57:22Mitchell's like that, dude, at, it's like, and that wasn't even
- 1:57:24that long ago, not right? I was like, maybe a decade ago
- 1:57:28or something like that or less. Yeah.
- 1:57:30Yeah, I love watching those videos, dude.
- 1:57:31But it was the vibe and what makes me want to drip.
- 1:57:33It makes you want to do. It makes you want to go with
- 1:57:35your friends and do all that shit.
- 1:57:36Yeah. And you know, I mean like that's
- 1:57:37what was called, the Vlogs are like cool and I know that's
- 1:57:39what's hitting now. But, like I think because the
- 1:57:42Nostalgia, for me was watching those videos, that's what I
- 1:57:45like. You know what, I mean?
- 1:57:46Feel like there's always multiple paths, but I feel like
- 1:57:48the most common one, if you're making money, is that your
- 1:57:52business is intertwined with automotive and it's making a
- 1:57:57fuckload of money. Like I watched as Haggerty video
- 1:57:59and the only Reason why I know who Tony Angelo is, I don't I
- 1:58:02didn't grow up in that scene, where I saw him drifting or went
- 1:58:04to clubs, or whatever and met him.
- 1:58:06But I saw they went to Club loosen this one Haggerty video
- 1:58:10where they revived, like a old, big body, American car and
- 1:58:13greens. Yeah, it's a good English sound.
- 1:58:15And then I asked somebody might have been, you might even Chris
- 1:58:19but he was like, yeah. That Tony Angelo guide.
- 1:58:21He drifts, he's like a club lose guy, is a judge, performing the
- 1:58:24drug. Yeah.
- 1:58:25And I was like, what the fuck that sick.
- 1:58:28So and then, with the first ones to start it.
- 1:58:30In that video, the there's another, they go to, like
- 1:58:32different, I don't know, shops different machine shops, and if
- 1:58:34that's always it, they have like a engine buildings business or
- 1:58:38some shit in there. Making mad money or something
- 1:58:41like that. Think they are Laura, at least
- 1:58:42it looks like it. But I mean dude, everybody
- 1:58:44Russo. He's the one who films up, so
- 1:58:46like that's awesome. You gotta get him on here.
- 1:58:48So Russa will tell you some really cool story.
- 1:58:50Yeah, rousso so Russo me Andrew, so we're doing the ride, the
- 1:58:53wave stuff about. Yeah.
- 1:58:55And then brousseau was like, yo I'm going to Cali.
- 1:58:57So while he was in Cali, that's when I decided to do my Tintin.
- 1:59:00California but Russo is like you know the first I just leave
- 1:59:05invites me I remember it was Thanksgiving and he invites me
- 1:59:08over. He's like yo come to Austin's
- 1:59:10house and I'm like alright so I don't even know who the hell
- 1:59:12this do this. So I'm traveling I got to this
- 1:59:15dude. Austin's house.
- 1:59:17That's post. Post Malone.
- 1:59:20What the fuck. Yeah, this guy's always with
- 1:59:23crazy people. Like I'm just like what the
- 1:59:25free. So is like, research is in the
- 1:59:27background just to see my expression.
- 1:59:28I was kind of caught off guard but he's dude was matcel dueling
- 1:59:32mad. She'll wait I didn't wait wait
- 1:59:34wait wait I seems pretty cool time.
- 1:59:38He's so chill. Yeah but wait I befriended his
- 1:59:41brother Jordan so I met this dude not knowing this was post.
- 1:59:44Malone's brother, don't pick it up.
- 1:59:49You know, we're we're medicating.
- 1:59:51Yeah. And I mean, we're, you know,
- 1:59:52we're doing the California thing and we're kicking it.
- 1:59:54Hanging it cool. And he's like, yeah.
- 1:59:56And they're like, yeah, he's and I guess they invited me over for
- 1:59:58Thanksgiving, I was staying with Russo and he's like, yeah.
- 2:00:00Is the drift instructor is doing a stint out here but I'll buy
- 2:00:02and bites me over open up. And then post was like, yo,
- 2:00:05what's up to you? Happy Thanksgiving or whatever?
- 2:00:06He says I'm like, yo, what's up, dude?
- 2:00:08And I was like yeah, and that was Thanksgiving that year.
- 2:00:10Yeah that is fucking yeah, no kids the fuck was that?
- 2:00:19He's like like when he comes to individuals definitely and
- 2:00:23drifting resource help me out. Tremendously from a media aspect
- 2:00:28also robbed good. One too big saucer awkward.
- 2:00:30When, you know, we went through a little medical.
- 2:00:33He did. Right.
- 2:00:34Yeah. So big shout out to Rob hope he
- 2:00:35gets better. Make sure you hit that go fund
- 2:00:39me because yes, Mark really use that support Russo's definitely
- 2:00:42helped me out with that Chelsea's, definitely help me
- 2:00:44out with the driving aspect and Club.
- 2:00:47Loose has helped me out in many, many ways.
- 2:00:49It's open up so many doors over the years.
- 2:00:50Probably more doors in anything early on was because of cold
- 2:00:53loose but being out in California with Russo, it opened
- 2:00:57up a whole new connection of people and having that are
- 2:01:00there. So that's kind of fucking wild,
- 2:01:02dude. That's not what I expected to
- 2:01:04happen. And I was like, oh, he went to
- 2:01:06Austin's and he fucking was not even there or something.
- 2:01:10My I do that to my friends. I'll tell you, I'll meet you at
- 2:01:11my house. You know, where are you?
- 2:01:13Oh, I'm like, 15 out. Yo, in the funny thing is all of
- 2:01:15like his Awards was just like on the ground showing like he was
- 2:01:19Thank you. He's a cool guy.
- 2:01:22So chill. Mary's from Call of Duty when I
- 2:01:24walk, that's fine. Let's get him drifting with the.
- 2:01:26Yeah. I mean I mean loves to be very
- 2:01:29clear. Like I went there and
- 2:01:30everything, it's not like I'm buddy.
- 2:01:31But yeah, I mean but don't worry.
- 2:01:33I'll talk to Rousseau, we gotta get was the he'll tell you some
- 2:01:36really cool stories. I just got him drifting a little
- 2:01:38bit ago. He's already know a little bit
- 2:01:39but he has a BMW. We got him up and going and he's
- 2:01:42doing a little bit of drifting out to so it's kind of cool to
- 2:01:45see him do it. Cody from BC racing he was
- 2:01:48always a media guy. Guy.
- 2:01:49And I went down to Florida, a couple of months ago to teach
- 2:01:52him and now he knows how to dress.
- 2:01:53So he did all the drift week so he's like killing it.
- 2:01:56So it's I mean I think it's like the greatest gift you can do is
- 2:01:59just that that bridge right there from like media guy or
- 2:02:03media guy or girl to driver is such a closed Bridge.
- 2:02:08Yeah like yeah. Jake on our last pod was a media
- 2:02:12guy and I think I've talked to a couple other people who were
- 2:02:15yeah but he became a media guy so he could sneak his way in the
- 2:02:18Caboose. But yeah, but I gave him a
- 2:02:21reason to be there. That's what I meant like this,
- 2:02:23like this past weekend. I got that feeling again, where
- 2:02:25I was like, I'm just here to be here, like I'm not, I don't have
- 2:02:28no obligation to be here because we didn't do what we wanted to
- 2:02:31do, Frankie who, sorry, one of the podcast but Karl wanted to,
- 2:02:35you know, I wanted to hang out. He went to party a little bit.
- 2:02:37I want to really party. We really just don't tell me, we
- 2:02:40just we just hung out and I was able to just help me.
- 2:02:43You hooking party acts. I drank maybe the clothes
- 2:02:47Twisted T's. No at-ats Special stage.
- 2:02:49Okay, I was I was I was wasn't at at special stage where you're
- 2:02:56enjoying the moment. I was having a blast afternoons
- 2:02:58like basically had a conversation in night before.
- 2:03:01Like do you want to do a podcast Saturday night when you're at
- 2:03:03the are busy with everyone or do you want to not do that nine
- 2:03:07years? Like no.
- 2:03:08I'm like okay I just wanted a good time and that's what I got.
- 2:03:12And and the fact that I'm telling you man I might in mind
- 2:03:16that might have not have been post Malone button going again.
- 2:03:19Going to Summit and having people like acknowledge the fact
- 2:03:22that they love our podcast like, makes me feel so fucking good.
- 2:03:25And like, if I fucking talk to you this past weekend and I was
- 2:03:29not all there I am. So sorry Bobby got it than I was
- 2:03:34I get it all the time with her just like talk to me.
- 2:03:36I'm like I probably just came off like a dick.
- 2:03:38Yeah I know. Like I was I was also just Hamed
- 2:03:41and now I am like I was just having a good time.
- 2:03:43Everyone else was there any girl teams up at that?
- 2:03:45No, I'm waiting for life. Is that going to be a thing?
- 2:03:48You know, they're sure. Don't let me tell you something
- 2:03:50girl. Alright.
- 2:03:50So for me kids are the are the best drivers and has because
- 2:03:56they absorb absorb. Yeah, student was yeah then
- 2:03:59females females have this way of learning how to drift and they
- 2:04:03become very fluid with it. Like they're very they have more
- 2:04:07of a finesse with it they're thinking and you're like I don't
- 2:04:10know what it is. They're smarter I'm not going to
- 2:04:12try are smarter. Do put yeah they're more patient
- 2:04:15I think and I think I don't know whatever it is they're lines
- 2:04:17look good once they get it it it's it blows my mind like if
- 2:04:21it's one thing that I will say, When I would travel with the
- 2:04:26drift kitchen girls and I would see all of the girls that would
- 2:04:30show up. It just blew my mind, how fast
- 2:04:32these girls have been picking up this skill set like, there's
- 2:04:34girls everywhere. That truth.
- 2:04:36Well, there was option section or hot version section.
- 2:04:39Yeah, but it's not like not like it is now.
- 2:04:41Yeah, like the girls. Now are like ripping.
- 2:04:43You know what I mean? I think that's awesome.
- 2:04:44Yeah, I think would drift kitchen.
- 2:04:46Did was like it really pushed a lot of the girls?
- 2:04:50It gave them like a safe space. Yeah.
- 2:04:51Just calm and just learn how to shred wasn't just You know an
- 2:04:55area surrounded by just dudes. Yeah.
- 2:04:57A bunch of like Sasha's do is. Let me show you how to drive,
- 2:04:59you know, you're just trying. I feel like now I feel like now
- 2:05:03if you can't really say that because I ended up with going
- 2:05:05out with one of the girls, if you think about it, if I feel
- 2:05:09like nowadays, if a girl just showed up to a Drifter Venom was
- 2:05:12driving. Yeah.
- 2:05:13I feel like there'd be some oohs and aahs but I feel like it's
- 2:05:16not as like weird. No, I don't think it just
- 2:05:19depends. What part of the country you go
- 2:05:20to haha. Yeah, definitely believe so, but
- 2:05:23I think it's way more. And now, and I think people, you
- 2:05:26know, I think, you know what my girlfriend is done Taylor, and
- 2:05:30Alexis is done from Jeff, kitchen is definitely like,
- 2:05:33really helping with that. Because everywhere I go, the
- 2:05:35girls are like, do you know drift kitchen?
- 2:05:37And I'm like, it's crazy, you know, it because it's the one
- 2:05:39thing that like brings all of them together.
- 2:05:43I think that's awesome. And it's, they're just really,
- 2:05:45really good. There's some really good
- 2:05:46directors out there. You know, that our girls that
- 2:05:48could probably a man, I probably for sure can probably all
- 2:05:53Jerusalem. You said, I haven't driven in
- 2:05:55three years so like they got a good shot on me.
- 2:05:57It's cool. It's just cool to see that, you
- 2:05:58know what I mean? Like, I'm pretty sure in the
- 2:06:00future they're going. There has to be a female group
- 2:06:02and like they're going to just Slaughter that'd be sick.
- 2:06:04And I mean they're just and then there's probably going to be a
- 2:06:06Peewee League or something. Like, I don't know.
- 2:06:08Dude. Like it's like I'm telling you,
- 2:06:10I like these. If you thought we were good, if
- 2:06:12we think Front Street right now is killing it.
- 2:06:14All those dudes right now, currently how their daughter,
- 2:06:16killing it. But I'm telling you like, in
- 2:06:175-10 years, we're going to be like, well, we've come this far,
- 2:06:21I'm just waiting for the girl drift team names because Those
- 2:06:24names are going to be fire. Yes, boob.
- 2:06:27Now it's not really what I was going with, but like I just I
- 2:06:32feel like the names are just gonna be like, oh girl bands
- 2:06:34names are so good. They're going like the videos
- 2:06:37like you. There's a lot of room for that
- 2:06:38there. Yeah, there's a lot.
- 2:06:40It's gonna get sick and their videos are going to be sick.
- 2:06:43That's the problem. That's not a problem.
- 2:06:45But like that's that adds to the fire, which is sick.
- 2:06:48Yeah, and I definitely think there should be eventually,
- 2:06:50there should be girl leagues and stuff like that.
- 2:06:52I mean, whatever they can drift with us too.
- 2:06:54But you know, Oh, just, I think that they should just drift with
- 2:06:56everybody. Yeah, I agree.
- 2:06:57They, I think they should, but I think there should also still be
- 2:07:00the option where they can just kind of do this.
- 2:07:02Yeah, you know what I mean? We're just because, dude, I
- 2:07:05don't know. I think drifted might be one of
- 2:07:06those Sports where you can be anything you want.
- 2:07:08You could be there. You could be her.
- 2:07:09You could be here. I mean, we we've seen, we've
- 2:07:11seen plenty of people that are ya, you know what I mean?
- 2:07:14And you can like, because that's it's not real.
- 2:07:17It's not like basketball. Yeah, it's like you're getting
- 2:07:20in a machine. Yeah.
- 2:07:21You know, so, so it's nice to I think it's nice that they They
- 2:07:24definitely mix it up because we see girl show up everywhere now.
- 2:07:26And then and then there's like a nice place where I don't know if
- 2:07:31I'm really into drifting yet and then they go and they see all
- 2:07:33the girls and then they kind of get used to it.
- 2:07:35They're like all right, let's go anywhere now.
- 2:07:36Yeah so I think that's a really good bridge for them.
- 2:07:39It's us, it's a girls get into skateboarding.
- 2:07:40It must be sick though. Imagine if you're a girl and you
- 2:07:43fucking somebody asked you if you're if you're a spectator or
- 2:07:46somebody and you're just like, yeah.
- 2:07:48Yo driving whose whose girlfriend are you.
- 2:07:50It? So happens that your car?
- 2:07:52Yeah. He's like yeah.
- 2:07:53And I'm just looking they're like I'm the bitch because I'm
- 2:07:56driving like because I'm not driving.
- 2:07:59I'm in the passenger seat. So we talked a lot about past
- 2:08:12of, but what do you think? Because I'm going to Coast after
- 2:08:15future. We're going to go to questions.
- 2:08:17Yeah, we tried don't have any because we posted that shit away
- 2:08:19late but God damn it. That's weird.
- 2:08:20But what do you do? Didn't like, what, what could
- 2:08:24you, what do you what's next? What do you want to do next?
- 2:08:28Fly a spaceship honestly. Erin.
- 2:08:32Lucy asked me that to the Flies. Okay.
- 2:08:37Well would I do next? I really and I and this isn't
- 2:08:42even on, I know a couple years ago, maybe two years ago, my
- 2:08:45name did come up on the table to be a Formula Drift.
- 2:08:48Judge, that would be sick. I'd start watching for me that.
- 2:08:52Yeah, for real, you know, that I know that guy and I thought
- 2:08:55about it, I probably would do it.
- 2:08:58Um, it would, it would greatly depend on, who am I doing it
- 2:09:02with? I strongly, I don't really know
- 2:09:04Chris that the new judge or the newest judge from Formula Drift,
- 2:09:08But I do know, Brian Egger. Yeah, and Brian launch, and I
- 2:09:11spent a lot of time with them talked, a lot of drifting with
- 2:09:14them. And I really respect their point
- 2:09:17of view and drifting. And any time I've ever had a
- 2:09:19question about any battle that I've seen in Formula Drift, that
- 2:09:21I may have had questions about the always break it down in a
- 2:09:24way where I'm like, man, you're right.
- 2:09:26It's just had on the live stream.
- 2:09:28Jim. You don't have that much time to
- 2:09:29do that. You know?
- 2:09:30I feel like it's hard to end and you say the wrong thing.
- 2:09:32Like you said it already. Yeah.
- 2:09:34And then it's you're screwed and you have to do so much in that
- 2:09:37time you got Ryan that's talking and to to Jared.
- 2:09:40And so there's a lot going on. So I would like that would be
- 2:09:44something I'd entertain. I don't know how that would go
- 2:09:46about or if that could even and you could still do that while
- 2:09:49working the school and every yeah, I think it would help
- 2:09:51obviously across permits for the school and stuff like that.
- 2:09:54Yeah, I thought about going back and spotting again but after I
- 2:09:57got like, I feel like after I got the spot of the Year where
- 2:10:00I'm like, alright, well now that's like an award done by
- 2:10:03formula. Yeah.
- 2:10:04Yeah, they're doing that. I was honored.
- 2:10:06I was like, yeah, that's awesome.
- 2:10:07So much, you know, they even pick that, they asked the teams,
- 2:10:12they asked, the Formula Drift teams, and I'm assuming I just
- 2:10:15contributed to a lot of drivers. A lot of these dudes are my
- 2:10:18homies to. So I'm like, yo, just take some
- 2:10:19footage, we'll sit down. We'll see you like, what my
- 2:10:21opinion is on, because I'm a nerd.
- 2:10:23I look at lines. I look at little things that
- 2:10:25people don't look at. And I'm like, you're they're
- 2:10:27going to ding you for this. This this, this, this and this,
- 2:10:29yeah. Because, like, I talked to Ryan
- 2:10:31lawn tune, and, and Brian Egger about many other places that we
- 2:10:35go judge. So it's the same parameters, you
- 2:10:37know what I mean? The shit's reminded me of when I
- 2:10:39fucking remember when Justin was doing u.s. drift.
- 2:10:41Yeah, probably ask you to be a spotter.
- 2:10:43Yeah, you couldn't do it. So I was the backup boy.
- 2:10:46Oh boy. I was a judge for that.
- 2:10:48I'm really becoming cycle if you can, he's like, yo, how is that?
- 2:10:52I was like, look pretty cool. Like I really didn't.
- 2:10:55I was like, yo just go faster here.
- 2:10:58And yeah, you're good. Like I had no fucking idea what
- 2:11:01I know, it's there's a whole thing to like how you have to
- 2:11:04like take. It's like a whole art of what I
- 2:11:07mean. You got to know a lot of shit,
- 2:11:08dude. Yeah, you just do you just you
- 2:11:11have to know how to convey your information.
- 2:11:13You know how to you. Just have to know how to talk to
- 2:11:15your driver. Everyone's a little bit
- 2:11:16different and every cars diff every car is different.
- 2:11:19And you have to like take really good educational guess like the
- 2:11:21best one that I was really proud of it.
- 2:11:24I've told so many people, this is a I was spotting for Mac call
- 2:11:27from in one year. Yeah, and he had to go against
- 2:11:31James Dean and I saw James Dean due to initiation Styles.
- 2:11:35One that was really fast to had no mangy and there was a head
- 2:11:38like a little, not like a mangy, but had like a little like flick
- 2:11:41flick which takes up speed. He was entering a lot slower
- 2:11:45because he was using energy up using that little weight
- 2:11:48transfer. But then he would do the B-Line
- 2:11:50one, which there is no scrub. And it was just beelining
- 2:11:52through which was as fast and as she ation so your they didn't
- 2:11:54know what he was going to do. So I knew so the first time we
- 2:11:56went and he went one more Time if I was like well if I'm Dean
- 2:12:00I'm probably like yo this kid's way faster than your body where
- 2:12:03you get the. So I told Kaufman you know the
- 2:12:05next one. He's not doing that little
- 2:12:06switch back and sure enough. He didn't think I remember this
- 2:12:09and he kept up with him and then he messed up later on.
- 2:12:11But those are the little things that help like to take that
- 2:12:15educated guess and take that have that confidence to be like
- 2:12:17yo he ain't going to go for this time, dude, I'm positive.
- 2:12:20Yeah he maybe he would have an hour.
- 2:12:22Yeah. And you would have been like but
- 2:12:23I was I was betting betting against the house that time that
- 2:12:27I'm like nine. I ain't going to do it so those
- 2:12:28are little things. Yeah I don't know man.
- 2:12:30Like if you if you sat next to him while he was spotting a
- 2:12:34Formula Drift dude it would just be some crazy.
- 2:12:36Like you see shit that none of us are going to notice.
- 2:12:39Yeah. Like even like you look at
- 2:12:40Wheels, you look at how the momentum stops, how they build
- 2:12:43it up, how they go into the pocket, how they're exiting the
- 2:12:45pocket? Yeah, there are their body
- 2:12:47language, how the suspension on loads into certain corners, and
- 2:12:50you're just trying to play chess to see where you can get an
- 2:12:52advantage. And you got to remember, like
- 2:12:54all this car does, this is yeah. Like you're like watching
- 2:12:56everyone else. Everything lot, man, if somebody
- 2:13:00breaking or is somebody having a rough day, maybe if you're like,
- 2:13:03if someone's having a rough day mechanically and your driver has
- 2:13:07to chase him. So necessarily that dudes not
- 2:13:10going to drive to mess you up on purpose, but he may have a
- 2:13:13mechanical problem mid-drift and now you have to adapt to that.
- 2:13:16So I would tell the driver, yo, he's pretty committed, but he
- 2:13:20has been having mechanical problems.
- 2:13:22So be on your toes, just in case you're committing.
- 2:13:24He does do something. You're ready because and inform
- 2:13:27you. Adrift, like, fractions of a
- 2:13:29second mean, everything. There's a lot that goes into it.
- 2:13:32They're like what those dudes doing?
- 2:13:33Easy like that. Now you do what they do is
- 2:13:35fucking hard, you know? I mean ain't no lot of people
- 2:13:38who are could do it like nests. And those cars do not drive like
- 2:13:41you're not fucking s13 that. You just brought to the club
- 2:13:44now. Absolutely not.
- 2:13:45It's not like that. Yo yo go there and you'll get
- 2:13:48your ship pushed down real quick.
- 2:13:49Do like that. Shit's not that's the big boy
- 2:13:51stuff right there you know and if you mess up like it's a lot
- 2:13:54of money or you're blowing here, someone asked me once there.
- 2:13:58Would you like to draw FD car? I was like I need like training
- 2:14:00for that. I'm not gonna be able to just
- 2:14:02get in there and fucking like yeah do a lap.
- 2:14:05It English town that shit's going to be fighting so much
- 2:14:08grip. Like you have to change.
- 2:14:11You have to change your mindset a little bit.
- 2:14:12Yeah and I mean it's cool that you can do that though.
- 2:14:15I mean I think with time anyone can do it.
- 2:14:16Yes. Have to have the right person in
- 2:14:19your ear. Have the right team and just
- 2:14:20focused and anything's possible. And obviously I have the money
- 2:14:24that is the biggest Factor but but yes, Spotting dude.
- 2:14:28I feel like that might be the second most important.
- 2:14:30Fucking. Yeah.
- 2:14:32Spottings because you can keep your driver in it.
- 2:14:36Yeah. You can see when their morale
- 2:14:37starts to go and you did that. Your job is to be there to save
- 2:14:40them, bring them back up. Keep them their head in the
- 2:14:42game. Yeah.
- 2:14:44Maybe it's a little bit easier for me because I know what it
- 2:14:46feels like. Is that like the corner guy?
- 2:14:47And, but in boxing? Yeah, I guess you would say that
- 2:14:50or like the guy, hey, body head body, or is it a day?
- 2:14:55Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
- 2:15:03She won four years ago, odie's wife, one spot of the Year
- 2:15:07award. So, a lot of that stuff.
- 2:15:09I've learned a lot asking questions from a lot of them.
- 2:15:11So, I mean, I have to give a lot of credit to it.
- 2:15:13When it comes from, that side of things, like I came in their
- 2:15:15green. Yeah.
- 2:15:17And a lot of people showed me what they were doing.
- 2:15:19The guy who won last year, aw, Dan, he's part of a Matt Fields
- 2:15:26team. He would take videos with a big
- 2:15:29iPad. I'm like so much better than a
- 2:15:31little funnel. Yeah, death.
- 2:15:32So just little things that people would do who really
- 2:15:35shocks me is Papa Doc, is he just like doesn't do nothing.
- 2:15:38He's just like their would you mean like like I'm not saying he
- 2:15:42doesn't do nothing. I mean like I don't know.
- 2:15:44I don't know how their team works.
- 2:15:46Yeah and like they're so proficient and so good.
- 2:15:49You want to ask questions but like you're busy.
- 2:15:52Yeah. Yeah.
- 2:15:53You're busy doing your thing. Yeah.
- 2:15:55And then You see some spiders that say some things you're just
- 2:15:57like Jesus Christ. Why would you ever tell him to
- 2:15:59do that? You know what I mean?
- 2:16:00Yeah, I could imagine it's because it's their home me,
- 2:16:02helping him and stuff. So yeah, it's not like a
- 2:16:04professional. Since you got to be lenient all
- 2:16:06that, you know, and I mean yeah but I let enjoy the judging more
- 2:16:09than anything though because I get to bust bust on like a lot
- 2:16:13of the drivers and stuff. Yeah I think that you would be
- 2:16:15an awesome judge and if that's in your future I would
- 2:16:17definitely I hope so. Maybe try it out.
- 2:16:20I think I definitely have the attitude to kind of just like
- 2:16:22shrug off anybody that has an issue with it.
- 2:16:24Because I think you just You kind of have to have that.
- 2:16:28I think it definitely takes. Maybe, maybe now would be a good
- 2:16:30time. Maybe not 10 years ago.
- 2:16:33Would have been a good time. I think I matured a lot more
- 2:16:36since then. So, I mean I think it would be
- 2:16:39awesome, dude. Like I said I'll watch Formula
- 2:16:41Drift again. I watched it because I watched a
- 2:16:44little bit of it. This long beach.
- 2:16:46I watched because Forest Wang Long Beach is the sickest layout
- 2:16:49because Forest Wang was, although I like that.
- 2:16:51But I saw that there is an E36 that's the leading it.
- 2:16:55I think his name is Rome. Yeah.
- 2:16:56Well I'm sure I'm pretty sure I'd rather see someone drove
- 2:16:59against him and and Clutch Cargo serious.
- 2:17:01Dude, I won. I beat him, but that's because
- 2:17:04he had a mechanical issue. So I don't count it.
- 2:17:06That that is sick to me. How'd he Not had that issue.
- 2:17:09Do would have walked all over me 100% because like the difference
- 2:17:13between an FDA guy, everyone that beat me at Close.
- 2:17:15Quarters was enough to do that. Had like way more horsepower
- 2:17:17than me but it's because like what I don't think people
- 2:17:20understand Is if you're able to squeeze a one more time out of
- 2:17:25them, they readjust their like, okay.
- 2:17:27And then they fix their car up and then because they have that
- 2:17:30education because they know how to do that.
- 2:17:31That's how they beat you. I had 450 when I was doing
- 2:17:34clutch kickers. These guys had a little bit more
- 2:17:36and I would ask our think the dude from a Juke erasing
- 2:17:40McDougal beat me, he had like 700 horsepower and I asked him.
- 2:17:43What did you do? Things like I dialed the grip
- 2:17:45and for the next one. Yeah and that's and that's fair
- 2:17:48game. You know what I mean?
- 2:17:49Like I showed my cards. That's all I had.
- 2:17:51Other person that did that was a direct Stratton and the
- 2:17:54Corvette. Like so they're kind of like
- 2:17:56sandbagging. No, no I'm not selling, you
- 2:17:59know, they they they go with what they, they make an educated
- 2:18:03guess on like how you drive and then they try to set up for that
- 2:18:07if they're like oh that wasn't fast enough.
- 2:18:08Or I didn't expect it to be as fast as I thought he was on the
- 2:18:12second one, they readjust and by that time there's no chance.
- 2:18:16Now if I would have had more horsepower, I would have been
- 2:18:19like, ooh, okay and I got to get ready for the next one.
- 2:18:21Add a little more grip and because I'm assuming he's going
- 2:18:23to do the same thing. Yeah, like I feel like at that
- 2:18:25point, that's how they think. And at least that's how I think,
- 2:18:29you know, if I go one more time with someone and you were even
- 2:18:31close to me like oh I'm going to try to look for a little bit
- 2:18:33more somewhere so I can like make it prominent that you can't
- 2:18:36hang with me. Yeah you know I mean and like I
- 2:18:39saw that happen a lot. So when I lose like that I don't
- 2:18:42get upset. I'm like oh you just you out
- 2:18:44drifted me? Yeah.
- 2:18:45Like that's cool. That's a good attitude to have.
- 2:18:47Yeah I also never thought of like FTE people are the way that
- 2:18:51A Readjustment. They're smart to me, my
- 2:18:53Readjustment goes on in my brain and I'm like, all right, maybe
- 2:18:58don't hit the gas there like that.
- 2:19:02I guess that's where we can say, that's why they're
- 2:19:03professionals. Yeah, you know what I mean?
- 2:19:05Like, because they are good and they got to, you know,
- 2:19:08experience with different situations like that?
- 2:19:10Yeah. All right.
- 2:19:12We go some questions right now? Thoughts, about rental drift
- 2:19:15cars. Would they work?
- 2:19:16What? Cars cost to rent them etc, etc.
- 2:19:20I mean, you pretty much went over.
- 2:19:21That's already. You have rental cars.
- 2:19:22Yeah. I mean, what I will say is right
- 2:19:25now. Currently the way, the United
- 2:19:27States Market is in my area, in the Northeast, I use G35 ES350,
- 2:19:32Z's, E46 has any 36 has, because at the time that I bought these
- 2:19:37cars, they were the most obtainable, the 36 hours are
- 2:19:41going to little Percy. No true complete transparency.
- 2:19:46I picked up an E36 328, mint. Twenty-five hundred dollars, pre
- 2:19:51covid picked up a 350Z mint $3500 pre covid.
- 2:19:56Post covid. I picked up a G35 $5500.
- 2:20:00It's kind of fucked up. That's covid it Covetous the
- 2:20:02fucking it's cuz people bought them like helping people would
- 2:20:05support the prices, you know, and the economics of what's
- 2:20:08going on in our world and our government whether we follow it
- 2:20:11or not that all plays a role you know it's just it's just the
- 2:20:13world we live in. So I try to stick with cars that
- 2:20:16I know if you were to try to get into drifting.
- 2:20:20And money is an issue, which 95% of the time it always is cars
- 2:20:25that you're going to probably end up doing so like those cars,
- 2:20:29sometimes out that depending if they're if they're really hard
- 2:20:32struggling getting like a Mustang on my, you can get a
- 2:20:34nice 95 for $4500 the V8 problem.
- 2:20:38There really isn't going to be too much of a thing.
- 2:20:39It's just what they like to do. You know what I mean?
- 2:20:41Whatever our an RX-8 or something like that, you know
- 2:20:44what I mean? So there is some odd ones from
- 2:20:45people like Miatas because they like Miatas, but for the most
- 2:20:48part you're going to end up And in cars that are pretty
- 2:20:50reasonably priced and ones that if you were going to get into
- 2:20:54drifting, you would final. So, that's my recommendation.
- 2:20:56Like the easiest right now is a g is a 350Z.
- 2:21:00Yeah. And G35, like, there's just so
- 2:21:01much support. Like you just, you can click
- 2:21:03good out. Basically, like an S chassis.
- 2:21:05The engine literally click add. You can click and build a drift
- 2:21:08car nowadays. Yeah, which I'm happy.
- 2:21:10You guys can do that and I'm kind of jealous you guys.
- 2:21:12Yeah, you just go in Faster, Motorsports.com.
- 2:21:13Yeah, there you go. Shameless damn.
- 2:21:19Our is favorites or owners from twitch drift?
- 2:21:23Ha ha. Does he go to your events?
- 2:21:28He's calm. He's come to the event, he's
- 2:21:30come to the school with his, with his girlfriend.
- 2:21:33Yeah. Okay.
- 2:21:34And they've done some lapsed on some tandems and stuff like
- 2:21:37that. I like them.
- 2:21:38What I like about them is that they just do their style, I
- 2:21:41would say maybe his girlfriend's car looks a little bit better
- 2:21:43than his card at which, what's up?
- 2:21:47It's right. It's right hand drive and she's
- 2:21:49like She like she drives really, really smooth and fluid.
- 2:21:52Not to mention, he probably hasn't even like change his car
- 2:21:54up in 10 years or so. I mean, he tried, but I think I
- 2:21:58think his whole thing is he really tries to support his
- 2:22:00woman and stuff like, yeah. So I think he just tries to like
- 2:22:03do when I see his cars, like a blast from the past to me.
- 2:22:05I know, I remember seeing it like, driving on Route 17 with a
- 2:22:08little trailer. Yeah.
- 2:22:09I see him at like car shows into and now he has a Peterbilt
- 2:22:12looking truck. Yeah, that's just wild, but
- 2:22:14they're out there doing their things and what I like is that
- 2:22:17it they're just about it. Like Don't care.
- 2:22:20They're just like we're out here doing it and like I think that's
- 2:22:23that's badass. Yeah.
- 2:22:25Why is res? AKA Becky so awesome.
- 2:22:29Why is he sick? I don't know who would say that,
- 2:22:31you know. Yeah, Leah, it's my home girl
- 2:22:35Leah from Philly. Why are you Becky?
- 2:22:39So me and her have been friends on us and slow right after high
- 2:22:43school and stuff like that. So she known you for a long
- 2:22:45time. Before she's known me as
- 2:22:46Mauricio and not res. Yeah.
- 2:22:49Yeah. Everybody in high school knows
- 2:22:50me as my real name. Yeah, it's so funny now, but
- 2:22:54she's awesome. She's like, she's always always
- 2:22:56bounce. Ideas off her because she's
- 2:22:57really good with organization and stuff like that.
- 2:22:59And she has he does like a lot of like startups and stuff like
- 2:23:01that with with her job and okay, what a bounce ideas off of her
- 2:23:05especially when I was starting the school and stuff like that,
- 2:23:07and it's kind of cool to have someone that I've known for such
- 2:23:09a long time like that. So it's cool.
- 2:23:10That's good to have someone in your life like that.
- 2:23:12Yeah, she's pretty, and she's pretty awesome when it comes
- 2:23:14out. Tyler, say what says, any plans
- 2:23:17to revive the coop in Meatball Shop?
- 2:23:20Well nicknames you still have so do you still have a 240?
- 2:23:24So yeah I have I have my daily 240.
- 2:23:27That's like a beige Jean. Oh yeah, that shit's like clean
- 2:23:30to clean. It was clean.
- 2:23:32It's been it's been left in the lat.
- 2:23:35So there's like a guy in Florida that does like as chassis
- 2:23:38Restorations or something saw. Maybe I'll take it to him.
- 2:23:40Oh no, I don't want to deal with that car.
- 2:23:42I just want to have that car. Yeah, I do have my old Pro
- 2:23:45MS-13. That the one you saw me drive
- 2:23:48for several years. I have that one, but I don't
- 2:23:50know. Like, I don't want to put a V8
- 2:23:52in it again. Okay.
- 2:23:53Is that the coop that that this? Yeah, that's a good that they're
- 2:23:55talking about. It's the one that I like
- 2:23:57retired. I guess you can say in 2016, is
- 2:23:59when I stopped driving my own car and I just started
- 2:24:03dedicating more till I'm instructing and stuff like that.
- 2:24:05So, I don't know. I thought maybe like, I kind of
- 2:24:08like Mikey Walsh's like VQ in there.
- 2:24:11Dude, that car needs a k80 man, you know, maybe maybe I'll talk
- 2:24:16to the haze boys and be like, yo, what's up?
- 2:24:17Yeah, I mean because I used to rock Haiti a lot back in the
- 2:24:20day. Yeah, I remember he doesn't like
- 2:24:22that. You know, I really like the cage
- 2:24:23and you don't want to do a nice are.
- 2:24:24So I would, if I would do an Sr again, if I you know, because I
- 2:24:27used to have, I had three or four Sr.'s
- 2:24:29in my lifetime and they were cool but they just started
- 2:24:34getting really pricey and stuff and I just I just I was like
- 2:24:36dude I got I can't do that right now.
- 2:24:38Yeah. Katie's the way man.
- 2:24:39Yeah, I think for that car. I mean I would but I have to fix
- 2:24:43it up and like I don't know if I do that car up again.
- 2:24:46Like I even thought about bringing it here on my car.
- 2:24:47If I'm gonna do this again, it has to look the way I want it to
- 2:24:51look that certain style like yeah.
- 2:24:53You know, I'd probably actually spend the money and go get like
- 2:24:58wheels that I would want from that era.
- 2:25:00Yeah, that I saw probably G lines.
- 2:25:03Yeah, you know what? I see raised.
- 2:25:04I'm just like You and Carl Capri talk about wheels for another
- 2:25:10hour or so I'm not a wheel guy man.
- 2:25:12He's not, he just happens to have the most baller set of wax
- 2:25:15in 2023. Yeah, I mean, so it's what looks
- 2:25:18good. Yeah, and I mean, it's just, you
- 2:25:20have a certain era that I watched I'm just like, tan and I
- 2:25:23want it. There's some wheels that I see,
- 2:25:25and I'm like, I like those, but most of the wheels I see, I'm
- 2:25:28always, I don't know, like the newest ones that I like really
- 2:25:32and it's not because I just have them on that 350Z, but I like
- 2:25:35those stage Wheels a lot. But I really do enjoy the
- 2:25:37monroes. You know what I mean?
- 2:25:39I like those because they remind me of a certain look, one piece
- 2:25:44look that I had that I would go for back in the day.
- 2:25:47One piece wheels are where it's at.
- 2:25:49Yeah, I like the one-piece Wheels.
- 2:25:51I have five seconds. Fn0 one's nice.
- 2:25:54I have eight of them. I will say though.
- 2:25:55It's nice when you hit a curb and you just change your lip
- 2:25:58out. Yeah, yeah.
- 2:25:59So it's like I don't know. Do you think that will come back
- 2:26:02again? What me hitting curves?
- 2:26:04No no, the big wheel. Jesus.
- 2:26:07The big wheel think. Oh, like lips and everything?
- 2:26:10I mean, I don't know. Is it gone?
- 2:26:11I would say it's probably knock on it final bout, right?
- 2:26:14But it's not as predominant. It's like a lot of te stuff.
- 2:26:18Oh, well, it came back. I don't know.
- 2:26:21Probably not because I feel like drifting at this point is just
- 2:26:24evolving. No, no, wait, wait, wait, wait.
- 2:26:26Let's not ruin. No one's really like, looking
- 2:26:28back anymore, but like nerds like me.
- 2:26:30There were some people on, like some Crow.
- 2:26:31Me Wheels. V SK F.
- 2:26:33Yeah. They're of course they're gonna
- 2:26:34be there. Yeah.
- 2:26:35No, it's not. Dead or anything.
- 2:26:37It's just like I do see a lot more like, mono block type of
- 2:26:40Wheels. I like them.
- 2:26:41I like the monoblock type of Wheels because it looks like a
- 2:26:43track car and it's just like I just like fitment.
- 2:26:45Yes, it has to fit, just fit everything, right?
- 2:26:48Yeah, yeah, my car so happen to me.
- 2:26:51So she if I'm paying fingers underneath, if I'm putting a
- 2:26:56fist under your front fender have Josh with that.
- 2:26:59Oh, wow. Yeah, dude, I really like that
- 2:27:01car. You could live in that wheel
- 2:27:03gasps. Wow, I don't know.
- 2:27:06Don't ever say anything like that, fiddle bus on me, you can
- 2:27:09fucking you could you can move in.
- 2:27:11I said no they know. I just sent Josh this fucking
- 2:27:15this fucking real on Instagram of this guy saying MTA bus
- 2:27:19training, be like and it says one of the little skits and shit
- 2:27:23like like do you have a driver's license?
- 2:27:25All right, you're good my video where he was in there and like
- 2:27:29some dude was like yeah he was like yeah, sorry 20 yeah yeah I
- 2:27:34was like yeah. The last stop is the last time.
- 2:27:39Yeah, dude. That's her 20.
- 2:27:42And we should all just like, get together and like, yeah, I've
- 2:27:48done it once. We should like all of like each
- 2:27:50time that you pick up one person and then, like the next stop.
- 2:27:53Well, let's stop here. And then the next week we should
- 2:27:57definitely do that. Josh, you can't wash this at
- 2:28:01once we're getting a lot of guys in the city.
- 2:28:03Good. Josh was like, yo I'm you know,
- 2:28:05a little From there. I was like, all right, we're
- 2:28:07stopping by and we just pull over.
- 2:28:09We just he just he just pulls out to us, opens the door.
- 2:28:13We just get in not even at a bus stop.
- 2:28:15And then we just ride with him like for the next hour and like
- 2:28:19no one got on. It was just like he was just
- 2:28:20doing this route that like no one's like just had the thing on
- 2:28:23the set off duty he was like, yeah, I'm picking, nobody will
- 2:28:25fuck them. A wild watching them.
- 2:28:27Try that thing around do is I did, he look like the Asian dude
- 2:28:30that goes down the Toge like, whipping around corners and
- 2:28:32stuff like that. Kind of because he was just, he
- 2:28:33could like handle it so well. I was like this thing is big.
- 2:28:36Big dude, and you're just waving it around like it's a fucking.
- 2:28:38I like, how he plays it down, I like what he does for work.
- 2:28:41But yeah. Tom.
- 2:28:41I'm just like, you know, your jobs pretty little and he drives
- 2:28:44like the double ones to sometimes, I could have never
- 2:28:47felt we were in the night and I was like, bro, what, how are you
- 2:28:49driving this thing right now, dude.
- 2:28:50I think that's why he is the way he is.
- 2:28:52He's always like because after you do all that it's just like
- 2:28:55whatever. Do ya think he's?
- 2:28:57That is a crazy thought to drivers, are thought I went out
- 2:29:00when I was in Hong Kong, I was in a fucking.
- 2:29:02I went to Hong Kong as a kid and they were driving through mr.
- 2:29:06Worldwide. This.
- 2:29:07Yeah, a lot of traveling in my younger years but they were
- 2:29:10driving on like a skinny Road. And we were in a Toyota, hiace
- 2:29:14tabiets geogebra. Toyota hiace.
- 2:29:16I didn't even really like Toyota hiace.
- 2:29:18Yeah. It's a square.
- 2:29:19The one that was like a loaf of bread.
- 2:29:22Hi ass. Yeah, but the guy was whipping
- 2:29:25it like like, we would go around and there's, it's two-way,
- 2:29:29right? But it yet, it's just so happens
- 2:29:31to be just the perfect amount of with and I'm like, this is
- 2:29:33insane and then he probably just goes home.
- 2:29:36And It's like whatever I gotta go to Hong Kong.
- 2:29:38Well, I want to go visit so many, you know, where I really
- 2:29:40wanted to go. I wanted to go to Russia.
- 2:29:42I want to go to before all of that should happen.
- 2:29:45Like I was really trying to figure out a way to go and go to
- 2:29:49like Suchi or whatever the place is called over the world.
- 2:29:53Like, there's a whole bunch of street drifting and like Megan
- 2:29:55drifting going on. Like I'm about us.
- 2:29:57Well, I'm about that. Yeah, let's be real, I'm about
- 2:30:02that. Yeah, I don't want to hear about
- 2:30:04you. I want you to show to my school
- 2:30:05with you showing me videos, you do.
- 2:30:06It. But like, yeah, if you're out of
- 2:30:08the country back, I will be like, oh yeah.
- 2:30:11Right? Yeah, Russia, Russia's wild.
- 2:30:12Yeah. Like it's and it's just like,
- 2:30:16I'm sure there's like people over there like, oh, that's
- 2:30:18really bad that they're doing that.
- 2:30:19But like, it's just it's cool to see all those buildings in the
- 2:30:23background. They're just like, yeah, fucks
- 2:30:25given and yeah, who knows what's going on over there?
- 2:30:27But after all that shit happened like like yeah, we're not doing
- 2:30:30that right now. Okay?
- 2:30:31Probably good idea. Yeah, you know I might become a
- 2:30:34political prisoner. Some.
- 2:30:36Yeah. Yeah, because I would have
- 2:30:37totally went down there. Really, Gonna Let Me Whip a car
- 2:30:38real quick. You imagine, could you imagine
- 2:30:41the video? How much street cred?
- 2:30:42Would you get the video Street drift and drift?
- 2:30:45Yeah, that'd be pretty. And then they catch me and then
- 2:30:48I'm like, yeah, I was there man. I'm but I kinda breaks - I'm
- 2:30:51back to America. Your heart.
- 2:30:52Never going to be a lot in Russia now.
- 2:30:53Like yes like that you're going to be so hard.
- 2:30:56Well apparently it's not really easy to get into Russia anyway
- 2:30:58before all this. So what I was going to, I'm not
- 2:30:59going to say what I was going to do because I don't want them.
- 2:31:02Yeah, you know I mean I was go, I'll s chances are I won't go
- 2:31:05you just gonna sneak What I was going to do is I knew I was
- 2:31:08going to becoming a Colombian citizen, okay.
- 2:31:11You know, you can get dual citizenship in Colombia.
- 2:31:13Yeah. And then I was going to enter
- 2:31:15Russia as so, you're not an American.
- 2:31:17Okay, so it's a lot easier now. I don't know.
- 2:31:19I'm just going to. I just feel like it sounds so
- 2:31:20much cooler when I say it that way.
- 2:31:23Like did you go to Russia? Yeah.
- 2:31:24But I didn't go as an American to like what I'm like.
- 2:31:26I entered as a colonial. I think it sounds cool with the
- 2:31:28other way because they're like, they could have taken you.
- 2:31:32What if they would have taken me?
- 2:31:33Yeah. Then we wouldn't even know, who
- 2:31:34is this guy call me? Okay.
- 2:31:36I don't wash my identity. You know what I mean?
- 2:31:39Again? I mean, I want to go to Russia.
- 2:31:42I do I want to go anyway, they're doing cool drifting like
- 2:31:44that. Like, 100% sure I want to go to
- 2:31:46Russia at some point and there's some rippers over there.
- 2:31:49Dude. That's the RDS is Rd.
- 2:31:52R SD is there they got some dues.
- 2:31:55Are that kill it? Toyota's they like yes, this
- 2:31:59should be sitting on this limiter is sitting on limited.
- 2:32:04What kind of engine is in those things?
- 2:32:06Once they have over there are like one G, Fe and then they
- 2:32:10turbo them or they're just one J's.
- 2:32:12Always. It's not.
- 2:32:13It's never n a nice gripping. Next question.
- 2:32:17Alan Kyle tell us about driving Styles.
- 2:32:20You like to explore when teaching your students.
- 2:32:24Pretty good question. Alan question.
- 2:32:25Who taught you had a good question?
- 2:32:26Yeah, like so what do you think he does that shit?
- 2:32:32So driving styles are at the school.
- 2:32:36I don't I don't like to push any specific style because I don't
- 2:32:41think that's my place. I think no matter what style of
- 2:32:45your thing that you have, the foundation is the same across
- 2:32:48the boards. Like you have to understand,
- 2:32:50inertia, you have to understand throttle modulation.
- 2:32:53You have to understand your your torque if you're doing V8 stuff.
- 2:32:56You have to understand your lag. If you're doing turbo stuff, and
- 2:33:00vice versa, all of that. So, all of that stuff, I think,
- 2:33:02for the most part, it's the same.
- 2:33:04Once you teach someone all of those things, then I feel their
- 2:33:10circle of friends or their taste in drifting style is going to
- 2:33:14come out naturally. And as they start going to
- 2:33:16events more and more you have people to start doing more of
- 2:33:19the Japanese style. Like you guys have done over the
- 2:33:21time, you have other people that will maybe do a little mixture
- 2:33:24of like competition in Japanese. Other people may just go the
- 2:33:27other direction. You'll they just have like
- 2:33:29something that straight out of Mad.
- 2:33:30Max, unfortunately, we can't control that.
- 2:33:32Hmm, But I think that's my place, teach you the foundation
- 2:33:37and then just Hey man it's up to you to figure out where you want
- 2:33:40to go in there and all of these subcultures of drifting that
- 2:33:43exist. Yeah you kind of like just see
- 2:33:45how they're driving and see what they're doing like oh I guess
- 2:33:48you like to do. Yeah, you're like that.
- 2:33:50Yeah. And so we start working on
- 2:33:52stuff. Yeah.
- 2:33:52And as they get better, it's like okay, let's correct.
- 2:33:54Your line here or like, let's change the Arc of your radius
- 2:33:58here. Let's enter here but position
- 2:34:00here because it gives you a different result here and as
- 2:34:03they start getting better, and they can understand what I'm
- 2:34:05saying, we can get deeper and deeper.
- 2:34:07Were in conversation. And I'll be honest with you,
- 2:34:10like there is a, there is a very small select group of people
- 2:34:13that I can really nerd out with when it comes to drilling.
- 2:34:16Like there isn't a lot of people that know.
- 2:34:19Yeah. A lot a lot, a lot, you know,
- 2:34:21and I'm not saying like three or four.
- 2:34:22I'm saying like maybe 15 people but outside of that, like, some
- 2:34:25people are just like I just do it to do.
- 2:34:28That's me and I guess. Yeah.
- 2:34:29I just I mean I'm telling you my adjustments are literally.
- 2:34:32I when I'm on great and I'm like, I'm the worst I'm gonna go
- 2:34:34fast like when I have a technical conversation with
- 2:34:37Reese. He's Over here.
- 2:34:38I'm like I'm like what is he saying?
- 2:34:41I don't even know what's going on.
- 2:34:42And then like because I really don't know like technical terms
- 2:34:45and drifting and shit. Like when people ask me like, oh
- 2:34:47what do you think? Like I don't even know, I can't
- 2:34:49give you an example. That's how much I know the black
- 2:34:51hole. Yeah.
- 2:34:52And then I'm just like, I don't know, you just floor it's like
- 2:34:55the little it's like the little Russian doll that you keep
- 2:34:57opening up and it keeps going like the more you learn about
- 2:35:00this and the more combos you learn like the more intense and
- 2:35:04complicating and complicated. It gets in a good way.
- 2:35:07Yeah. I mean like, for instance, like
- 2:35:09TJ TJ Bora right? Like he would watch me drive
- 2:35:14because he was a spotter for me, but then he implemented
- 2:35:17everything. He saw me drive and then just
- 2:35:19made it better. So now when I watch him drive
- 2:35:21I'm like Dan Can I even run that line?
- 2:35:25You know what I mean? Because he's like now evolved
- 2:35:28it. Yeah, you know, I mean, and I
- 2:35:29know some people are like, bull shouting.
- 2:35:30You know how you see that? Wow, no fucker.
- 2:35:32I see it. You know, maybe I mean he's one
- 2:35:34of those people, I wouldn't want to drive against because I'm
- 2:35:36like, the student knows me. Well, yeah, I may have not
- 2:35:38driven with them for a long time but he drives with me for about
- 2:35:41a half hour or one session by that's next session.
- 2:35:44Like he's going to be glued onto me.
- 2:35:45Yeah. You know what I mean?
- 2:35:46So that's what I like that. Some people don't.
- 2:35:49Maybe they don't realize that they pick up on these things but
- 2:35:51I do because I'm watching. All the time, you know all the
- 2:35:55time. Yeah, you definitely are able to
- 2:35:56pick out things that I would never ever notice.
- 2:35:59And it's like, even if you ask me, oh, like, oh yeah.
- 2:36:01So I see what you did there is I be like, dude, I have no idea
- 2:36:04what I was doing, but thanks I guess.
- 2:36:06Like, that's how it always was when we were at Club loose.
- 2:36:08Like, people would say things, I'm just, like, I don't know.
- 2:36:10I'm just trying to keep up or like, No, have a good lead line,
- 2:36:16which is I feel like having a good lead line is maybe the one
- 2:36:19thing where I'm like, okay, I kind of know what I'm doing
- 2:36:21right now. I think, I mean, I think huge
- 2:36:22are really good when I, yeah, when I drove back in the day, it
- 2:36:27comes right back to ya. I'm not worried about it, but
- 2:36:30like the lead line thing. Like, you kind of got to know
- 2:36:33what you're doing with that. Like, if you're leading people
- 2:36:35and adrift like because if you fuck that up your fucking the
- 2:36:38whole thing up, I think in drifting if your goal is your
- 2:36:42first year, your goal just Aim High.
- 2:36:44Learn how to adjust. Run a good lead line.
- 2:36:48Yeah. Like if that's should be your
- 2:36:50because once you learned that and that becomes second nature,
- 2:36:53then, then it other door start opening up.
- 2:36:56Because now, you can like drift in the background.
- 2:36:58But then, like another part of your brain is open to make
- 2:37:00adjustments in Tandem and then, but if you jump the gun or you
- 2:37:03start putting Parts on your car that you don't need like which
- 2:37:07which happens a lot which I mean I guess.
- 2:37:09I mean, I'm not saying you don't some parts, you do need some
- 2:37:11parts. You don't need but you can't
- 2:37:13click skill and by skill. Yeah, you got.
- 2:37:16Put the time in. I mean, Jordan didn't become
- 2:37:19Jordan because he just played basketball.
- 2:37:21And he told him don't like he put a lot of time and Kobe the
- 2:37:23same way you know you name any race car driver.
- 2:37:26They're putting in time. Yeah, I mean we make fun of the
- 2:37:28simulators and said I did for a little bit too.
- 2:37:30But like if you think about the technology that we're using now
- 2:37:33for simulators, are those kids that are using for simulators is
- 2:37:36the same technology? Some of these F1 guys are using
- 2:37:38probably back in the 90s. Yeah so I mean like that's true
- 2:37:41actually 100%. So I better.
- 2:37:44Yes. You look at and to them.
- 2:37:46Into this to them. This is something they do after
- 2:37:48school after they finished her homework or whatever.
- 2:37:50Yeah. So it's like it it's going to be
- 2:37:54good and she gives him, I don't know but he said there is a
- 2:37:59direct correlation like between people who use the Sim and come
- 2:38:03to the school. And I know there is 100% it.
- 2:38:06Somebody on the Sim, what you can't do, is what you mentioned
- 2:38:12earlier, which is not being able to let go of the wheel.
- 2:38:15You will not be able to spin a wheel like this on a Sim or or
- 2:38:21feed it like this. It will not move fast enough.
- 2:38:24The game will not will not, you will just keep spinning out and
- 2:38:27spending and spending out. It's almost like little things.
- 2:38:30They letting go, the like, they pick up on little, what they
- 2:38:33don't, what they don't understand is the G forces.
- 2:38:36Yeah, you can't at least right now you can trap unless you got
- 2:38:40a lot of money. Yeah.
- 2:38:41And even then you know I mean because at the end of the day,
- 2:38:45I've had a lot of kids and say why can't just hit restart here?
- 2:38:48Like I'm in your car so it becomes real to them.
- 2:38:51Yeah I'm in this this is a heavy car.
- 2:38:53This is a heavy door. Yeah this is wind.
- 2:38:56That's dirt. Yeah I mean but the kids are way
- 2:38:59more respectful than you think. I like I think kids nowadays are
- 2:39:03just being raised in this Advanced world and they just
- 2:39:07suck up information way differently and they're just
- 2:39:12they're just doing really good right now.
- 2:39:14They're all of the kids that come Um to me I'm just like,
- 2:39:16damn this is crazy. So you have faith in the Next
- 2:39:18Generation 100%. I had a faith when you guys were
- 2:39:20doing it, right? And let's go now.
- 2:39:21Yeah, well I remember I remember I specifically told all you guys
- 2:39:25included from ceramide, you guys are the future of the show.
- 2:39:27I remember. And here you are.
- 2:39:28I remember dad Reese, give me the election because you know,
- 2:39:31you're like are no, because if they're into it and we're
- 2:39:34already the old guys back then, like, I knew that's what was
- 2:39:37going to be the case, you know what I mean?
- 2:39:39And like, it just happens. Now now we're all the old ones.
- 2:39:41We're just waist up, we're just waiting for you to come back.
- 2:39:44Oh my God. Stop.
- 2:39:45Saying it like it's a fucking movie.
- 2:39:46It is I hate about to be moved because I'm gonna I'm gonna get
- 2:39:50my car running and just fucking tank it.
- 2:39:51And yeah, yeah. Like I just, I want Frankie to
- 2:39:57drive because like because then he can have someone to drive
- 2:39:59with us. Yeah.
- 2:40:00Because he knows I'm dumb and I'll do every event.
- 2:40:03Yeah, because like I always Pastor Chris about driving and I
- 2:40:06like it does cost a lot of money and purses in here.
- 2:40:09You can talk shit about. No nah I don't ever know but
- 2:40:12like the thing is is like I want him to drive more but I get
- 2:40:16there's like, it's not like this is our number one priority.
- 2:40:20Like, if you want to go do something else.
- 2:40:22Go do something else, but I know at Frankie's driving, it's my
- 2:40:24number one priority. It's literally like.
- 2:40:27All right, let's go like you, I want somebody to push me.
- 2:40:30Like, I probably push we can go to event and my friend Market
- 2:40:33the company and drift. Yeah I'm good.
- 2:40:35I mean nowadays that's how it has to be.
- 2:40:37I meet at our stage for us. That's how we have to look at
- 2:40:40ya. You know and it's just makes
- 2:40:42sense shop car. All cars outside that's funny
- 2:40:46and any of them you know I mean I definitely think that's the
- 2:40:49push is to is to do stuff like that.
- 2:40:51Yeah, last question from Alan Kyle favorite track and why?
- 2:40:56Oh, damn it Alan. I was literally going to fucking
- 2:40:58ask that I get asked that a lot, it's but everything.
- 2:41:01But come interested. No, no, I'm interested to hear
- 2:41:03the answer. It's called, please.
- 2:41:06Dammit. See, I already knew that answer.
- 2:41:07But so the reason why I was I got asked that.
- 2:41:10Also everywhere I go, I get asked that the reason why is
- 2:41:13because I trust I trust my the drivers at the club so much and
- 2:41:21I know every time I go out there and I go with the group, a guys
- 2:41:24like I'm going to be able to push it and God forbids things,
- 2:41:27get a little squirrelly for the most part.
- 2:41:30We're all on the same page. Yeah I like you're going to be
- 2:41:31okay. Yeah probably and maybe that's
- 2:41:34the same for many other people at their clubs around the
- 2:41:38country. But I know I personally know
- 2:41:42that with these group of people I'm cool.
- 2:41:44You know, I can be a A little reckless and like they're going
- 2:41:47to be a safety net for me as I would be for them and because of
- 2:41:50that were able to get the maximum out of English town and
- 2:41:54that's why that's my favorite check because I can do that, you
- 2:41:57know? Like when I went to Pat Acres, I
- 2:42:00was getting the maximum out of the track, but only when I was
- 2:42:02driving with Chelsea, or when I was driving with Travis reader
- 2:42:06because I spent a lot of time with them but that wasn't the
- 2:42:08normality for everyone that was there.
- 2:42:10So that can't be market. So for me, the parameters are
- 2:42:13very different. So English town is definitely
- 2:42:16number one because when I go there I'm always going to have a
- 2:42:19great time. I'm always going to get good
- 2:42:20tandems, you know, because I'm sure people are going to like I
- 2:42:23want to drive with Reese, so I have that.
- 2:42:25And because of that, it really amplifies.
- 2:42:28My experience at Englishtown, that's why for me the greatest
- 2:42:31place on Earth will always be English town.
- 2:42:34You know for sure. That was perfect.
- 2:42:36Yeah. Well, that's a perfect way to
- 2:42:38end this. Yeah, that was literally
- 2:42:39beautiful. Yeah, yeah, thank you so much
- 2:42:41for coming on the pot. I mean, it sounds like you have
- 2:42:44a shit It load of stuff going on.
- 2:42:46So I'm really glad you could squeeze this in.
- 2:42:48Yeah, I appreciate you coming in man.
- 2:42:50Yeah, I was, I was pumped, I see everything you guys are doing.
- 2:42:52I think it's really cool to see all the things on here and
- 2:42:54talking shit, dude. That's like it's great.
- 2:42:55I'd to be able to hear. I didn't see, I don't ever know
- 2:42:59anybody before this aside from like when I saw you on grid and
- 2:43:03now I'm now when I'm going to be on grid and I see you there, I'm
- 2:43:05going to be like damn it. Well it's crazy people a lot of
- 2:43:10people now just know me as an instructor and there's a lot of
- 2:43:12people didn't even know. I drove.
- 2:43:14I just assumed you gotta drive this truck and people don't look
- 2:43:18it up. You know you really like you're
- 2:43:22out there doing it. Yeah.
- 2:43:34And then like you have other 12 girls like you should go look at
- 2:43:36his videos retard. Yeah.
- 2:43:39If they say that, they're allegedly their way more
- 2:43:43educated. To me, they're like it, screw
- 2:43:45you, whatever, you know, and it's like that's a whole other
- 2:43:48world. And this this case, yeah, those
- 2:43:50kids make my own. Oh, you're making Tick-Tock
- 2:43:51sound like, I got to go on there.
- 2:43:52It's so funny, dude. Like, those dudes have set,
- 2:43:54like, I react to, like, video game videos of people drifting
- 2:43:59on my God, that wasn't that good and like it kids, what the fuck?
- 2:44:02You don't even know what you're talking about, Baba and I'm not
- 2:44:05reacting to normal videos like of them drifting video games, do
- 2:44:08that reminds me used to always post crazy-ass.
- 2:44:10Statuses just calling people out for shit.
- 2:44:12Yeah. What happened to that, man?
- 2:44:15I need more of that. So, I mean, like, I think the
- 2:44:19last one that I really was big on was was with that do Joe.
- 2:44:25Oh, yeah. Yeah.
- 2:44:26He said I think the one before that was Taylor Hall was just it
- 2:44:31was always like some random like thing that has, how am I saw
- 2:44:34something? I just didn't agree with and I
- 2:44:36mean, just to be clear like what Taylor Hall?
- 2:44:38Like I'm sure he's probably a really nice dude, but I was just
- 2:44:40replying to like what he did as a driver at that moment, I don't
- 2:44:43even remember that. People were just talking about
- 2:44:45him. Sandbagging I thought.
- 2:44:47Oh okay. But like he's an amazing driver
- 2:44:50and then he'll just like, I'll be like yo the people at
- 2:44:53takeovers man what are you doing?
- 2:44:55Why don't you come to a real event and like oh yeah actually
- 2:44:57like dude like that number I pet them like y'all better.
- 2:44:59I'll pay ya. Somebody show up and try to beat
- 2:45:01me. I'll bet you ten thousand
- 2:45:02dollars. I'll mop the floor with you but
- 2:45:04I have to film it live and everything, obviously, nobody's
- 2:45:07going to do that. That's yeah, fair.
- 2:45:09But more people more of this takeover dudes have shown up and
- 2:45:12shown support and now they're trying to either come Invert or
- 2:45:14trying to learn how to do it correctly, instead of like
- 2:45:16they're like yeah I think it's better not to do it on the
- 2:45:18street. So I'm not gonna be able to
- 2:45:19convert all of them but some of the dudes they're down so that's
- 2:45:23yeah. Hey well that's well, that's you
- 2:45:26contributing to society. Yeah.
- 2:45:28Literally. You're definitely making the
- 2:45:30drifting Community better so I try a little bit of time.
- 2:45:34Working everyone, check out your your stuff.
- 2:45:37You can go on Instagram. Drift School Evergreen, you'll
- 2:45:41pop up on Instagram as well as your school Ever Green Dot.
- 2:45:44You'll have all the information. There, you can email me all your
- 2:45:46info and stuff like that, Reese, Merit, and Instagram.
- 2:45:50And if you're going to find me on Tick-Tock, I haven't changed
- 2:45:52it. Just because I know.
- 2:45:54What is it? It's Senpai Reese.
- 2:45:58Yeah, it's perfect. It's so good and I just, I just
- 2:46:02went with it. It's actually.
- 2:46:03Yeah. That's a good name.
- 2:46:04Yeah. Especially to get people to
- 2:46:05argue with you and shit. That's perfect.
- 2:46:07These kids are ruthless. Yeah, and I like it coming, man.
- 2:46:10You guys should talk really good.
- 2:46:11Yeah, we're on the internet. That's a craft to be able to
- 2:46:19somebody with they'll say to those a basic stuff like you're
- 2:46:22just ugly. And I'm like, you see the how
- 2:46:26clean break the deliver is just. Yeah.
- 2:46:28And it's through its through like posting.
- 2:46:30I'm like wow, just the way he taped it, you know.
- 2:46:32Yeah, it was good. I respect that.
- 2:46:35Good. Thank you so much for coming
- 2:46:36race. Maybe we'll have you back on
- 2:46:38again with Russo and post Malone and the hahaha dude, what the
- 2:46:42fuck? But So it's good series.
- 2:46:45You should get him on? Yeah, yeah.
- 2:46:46Some real. He's met a lot of cool people
- 2:46:48does he live in California? No, no, he's back in PA now.
- 2:46:51Okay, you know, I mean hotel by the store.
- 2:46:52We went to a fight. We met McLovin.
- 2:46:55Shut the fuck up. Yeah.
- 2:46:56Because of him. I'm at through the, you know,
- 2:46:58I'm gonna have you back on. We're gonna start patreon soon.
- 2:47:01Yeah, we'll get. We'll get real discreet.
- 2:47:03Yeah. All right, let's close this one
- 2:47:05out Carl. Thank you guys so much for
- 2:47:07watching and listening if you haven't already dropped a review
- 2:47:10on the Spotify or a like on the YouTube.
- 2:47:14Pending on where you're watching or listening to this, the
- 2:47:17discords popping is fuck. You still haven't made a fucking
- 2:47:20Discord. I don't know what that is.
- 2:47:22Frankie we yeah, there there's a faction Discord and it's fun.
- 2:47:26I get I get Xbox Live party vibes from it.
- 2:47:30I'm going to probably go over nothing.
- 2:47:32It's they have. So we have Malcolm set it up
- 2:47:35with multiple channels that people who are playing a set of
- 2:47:37could get on a said, oh right now, I just play in car wrecks
- 2:47:39because I could, most of the time, I like her ex it's like
- 2:47:42it's a game. I Don't use that for some stuff.
- 2:47:45I use it as a game. Yeah, but it's just really fun.
- 2:47:49We met a lot of people on there and if you haven't if that
- 2:47:52interests, you go check it out. Malcolm, how do they do that?
- 2:47:54I forgot. There's nothing like, but the
- 2:47:56link is on our tree. Yeah, the link tree and on the
- 2:47:59Instagram on Instagram, thank you guys so much.
- 2:48:02And if you said hi to me at Summit this past weekend, thank
- 2:48:04you so much. That made me feel like I was
- 2:48:06somebody. You are somebody Carl?
- 2:48:08Yes, sir, I'm Carl. All right, Malcolm Close this
- 2:48:12out. Put that in top five right
- 2:48:40there. Yeah.
- 2:48:43After every episode you go, this might be one of my favorite.
- 2:48:46Yeah. Oh, this is my favorite one.
- 2:48:49Thanks for coming by and then I'm like, I can't be saying that
- 2:48:52to every single person that yeah, they're gonna be like, I
- 2:48:54just said this shit. Yeah, he just says, no, just
- 2:48:57gets better every time. It really does.
- 2:48:59I mean Yeah. These guys are really bringing
- 2:49:02bringing the fun topics and information is podcast.
- 2:49:06I'm glad dude, I think we just have a good pool of people going
- 2:49:15to be losers and there's no one who are we gonna bring on here?
- 2:49:19That someone's going to care about?
- 2:49:20But it's like you just bring our friends on here and everyone
- 2:49:23loves it. Everybody has a fan, you know?
- 2:49:25Yeah, well, maybe not you. All right?
- 2:49:28I'm your fan. All right.
- 2:49:30So We got going on this month. Well, this is going to drop the
- 2:49:35end of the month. Oh yeah.
- 2:49:38Okay, so we gotta Pretend We're in the future right now.
- 2:49:40Oh yeah. So it's coming up on June right
- 2:49:44now. Where is June?
- 2:49:47Yeah, we're recording this middle of May.
- 2:49:50Yeah, we got too many podcasts this month.
- 2:49:52So yeah, we doubled up one week. So we're gonna we decided, you
- 2:49:57know, why we treat ourselves take a week off at the end of
- 2:50:00the month? Yeah, so this will be the
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- 2:50:26Yeah, all right parts with new parts, we got I'll take a look.
- 2:50:32You add all of them. So let's see.
- 2:50:35Doot-doot-doot first thing is those HKS Nardi steering wheels
- 2:50:37that were special order and the cutoff was.
- 2:50:40Did you edit that? Yeah I did it.
- 2:50:42Okay. So basically what's going on
- 2:50:43here at this? Some inside information by the
- 2:50:47way, for future reference when we do start a patreon, we're
- 2:50:49going to have all this type of information on the patreon
- 2:50:53podcast, so make sure you check that out.
- 2:50:55Once we drop it some Insider information, those steering
- 2:50:59wheels. There's about 40 40 of them left
- 2:51:02to order. So we still have it.
- 2:51:04Open on the web. Site, there's 40 that are coming
- 2:51:06in and they're unreserved their unreserved.
- 2:51:09So if you want to grab one of those, I know people were
- 2:51:11talking about ordering them but they were a little late.
- 2:51:15So I think the steering wheel is sick personally.
- 2:51:19The stitching just stitching is amazing.
- 2:51:21I think it looks really good. The seats little expensive.
- 2:51:24Yeah. I don't like that.
- 2:51:26Okay, never mind. Yeah but what else do we have?
- 2:51:30Killer be loyal, pick up pre-filter for the new gr 86.
- 2:51:34So what this is Is a some type of pre-filter they put on the
- 2:51:37oil pickup just to prevent you know excess RTV silicone
- 2:51:43silicone because that's been happening on these cars.
- 2:51:46Yeah. Killer Bees stops.
- 2:51:48It from getting sucked up into the coil pickup.
- 2:51:50Yeah, so I don't know, I thought was pretty neat so I'm not gonna
- 2:51:53put it on the website. The new app XE.
- 2:51:56N 1X, Evolution extreme, Quebec exhaust, for the 2020 2022, WRX.
- 2:52:03I just realized something now available.
- 2:52:04I, I meant to send you all of the emails, they send it, but I
- 2:52:07don't think I did. You sent me to?
- 2:52:10Yeah, they made a bunch of exhaust for the GRE 6.
- 2:52:13It wasn't me up too. By the time this comes out.
- 2:52:16Yeah. I want to get all those up
- 2:52:17there. Did you put it?
- 2:52:19Oh, you put an H has high power for 350z.
- 2:52:22Yep, that's awesome. Yeah, yeah.
- 2:52:26Put up a whole bunch of radium radium, engineering catch cans.
- 2:52:32For you people's out there for FR-S, we got Gears e86 Kaz, 1.5
- 2:52:38way up there, SPC, front tension, rods.
- 2:52:41I think we talked about that last podcast so, but yeah, we
- 2:52:44got new parts up there. We are now doing international
- 2:52:46shipping. So you guys are listening to
- 2:52:49this in Australia or you know, wherever the hell you are and
- 2:52:53you want to buy something, feel free to try it out.
- 2:52:55Yep, that's it. It's shirts, stickers, any of
- 2:52:58that stuff. We are trying to make more
- 2:53:00designs but none of us are artists.
- 2:53:02Yeah. And if you ever come into
- 2:53:04trouble with the international shipping on the website, feel
- 2:53:09free to email Us sales. I fax Motorsports.com and I was
- 2:53:13the phone ringing. Sorry guys.
- 2:53:15We gotta we gotta blast back to work.
- 2:53:17We go have a good one. Bye bye.