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MidLife Sports Cards Q & A - October 22, 2025 · Sports Card Clubhouse

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What's going on, everybody? When I started my channel over
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three years ago, crazy. That is crazy.
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But when I started my channel over three years ago, the number
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one thing I wanted was dialogue. I loved watching YouTube videos.
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I loved watching other channels. I love people going to card
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shows and people going to show off their collection and and
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teach about different cards. I loved all of that and the
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thing that I wanted to do was I wanted to hear from other
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people. I wanted to connect to them,
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hear their thoughts, hear their opinions because as we know
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there isn't a right or a wrong way to do the hobby.
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But I am always curious on how people are wired, why people
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have the opinions that they have, how they change their
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opinions, what their thoughts are on different events that are
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happening with the hobby. I've always been a sports talk
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radio person for my whole life. As a kid, I listened to sports
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talk radio and it was because I loved hearing people share
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ideas, having callers call in and share their takes and then
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and then seeing where the discussion went.
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And that's the foundation of why I even started a channel and the
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Q&A's that we do on Wednesdays, it's not really Q&A's, it's you
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bring up a topic. I share my thoughts on the
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topic. Doesn't mean it's an answer,
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just means it's an opinion. But when I do these, this is
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what it's all about. It's what do you guys want to
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talk about? What are you guys curious about?
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And I share my thoughts. And then I encourage you down
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below in the comments to share your thoughts.
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And the reason is because I am not the disseminator of
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information for all card collectors.
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I am simply a person who is interested in what people think.
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I have strong opinions. Many of you have strong
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opinions. Many of you are trying to form
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strong opinions. My opinions are always changing.
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So my question to you is, what do you guys want to hear about?
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Well, every week you all share your questions with me down
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below in the comments. If you have a question for an
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upcoming episode, I hope you share it down below.
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So with that said, without further ado, let's go ahead and
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get to the first question right here.
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This first one says howdy good Sir, what hypothetical cart
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hobby channel would you want to watch that doesn't exist?
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I would love one where people just do before and afters of
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cracking slabs for crossover and regrading.
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Another one would be a channel about vintage foreign non sport
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cards, another would be about iconic cards and a dedicated
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show on each specific card. And another all about one of
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ones would be pretty cool too. OK, this is a super interesting
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question. I mean, I was just talking a
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second ago about one of the reasons I started my channel is
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'cause I was interested in a back and forth in a place to
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share dialogue and a place to share opinions and a place to
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talk about what topics they wanted and, and share their
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thoughts on different topics. That was that was really the
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reason I started this channel is because there were a lot of
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great channels out there, but I didn't feel like there was a ton
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of that. So without doing only live
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streams, which I like doing live streams, but those are difficult
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to do and schedule. But one of the things that one
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way we can do that back and forth without it being a live
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stream is things like this Q&A and things like my Monday
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episodes were ask you questions and then you share your thoughts
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and then we talk about it. And, and there are a couple of
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things that aren't being done in the community that I think would
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be great. I'll share a couple of them.
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I like learning. I like learning not so much
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about the what, but I like finding out about the why.
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Why do people like what they like?
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Why do people buy what they buy? What is the strategy behind what
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people are doing? And there are some episodes that
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do that, but I've always been a documentary person.
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I love documentaries. And so I think something that
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would be really interesting is like a documentary from a
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dealer's perspective. Now there are dealer videos,
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there are dealer channels where they set up a shows and they set
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up a camera. But I would be curious to see
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the before what cards are they buying for the upcoming show?
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How are they buying them? What are they buying?
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What are they thinking is going to sell?
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What are they thinking they're going to have trouble selling
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when they set up their dealer booth?
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Why are they setting it up the way they're setting it up?
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Why are they putting the cards the way they're putting them?
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And then see the people show up and see what sells, see what
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doesn't sell, see the negotiations.
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Again, there are some great channels that do a lot of the
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negotiations, but I want to see leading up to it too.
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I also am curious about the post.
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So the dealer who what's he buying up for the show that's
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coming up, then setting up his booth.
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Why is he setting it up? How he's setting it up?
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Then see the negotiations. Then after the show, see kind of
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how it went. What did they think?
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Were they surprised about what happened?
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What were the sales they were excited about?
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What were the the sales or the the purchases that they were
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excited about? I think that would be
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interesting and sort of a documentary style.
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I think some sort of documentary about collectors on their way to
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a show. So a lot of the times we'll see
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people, you know, do videos where they walk around and they
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show the cases and I do some of those too, and those are cool.
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But what about before the show talking about what are they
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looking for, preparing for the show, Actually going into the
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show, seeing the negotiations and the back and forth of them
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making the purchase, then their thoughts after the negotiations,
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and then getting home and adding the cards to their collection
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again, sort of a documentary style.
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When I was a kid, I liked watching Mr. Rogers, and one of
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the things that Mister Rogers would have frequently is he
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would go to like different factories.
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Like he'd go to a pencil factory and it would take you to the
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beginning and it would show you the process of how they make
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pencils, how they get the lead in between the wood and how they
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cut the wood and how they add the erasers.
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And the whole process would be shown in like a Mr. Rogers type
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episode. And that process I think would
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be really interesting. Show me, what if Tops had a
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channel where they showed us the full process from ideas of the
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cards that they're thinking about trying out the design.
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What does that look like? The actual production of the
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cards? How are they inserted into
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packs? How is it done randomly?
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How do they make sure they get one auto per box or two or
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whatever? How does it then get
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distributed? I would love to see the process
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from inception sitting around a table of what they're thinking
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about using for different cards, new inserts or something all the
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way to the end of delivering the cases to a hobby shop.
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I think that would be interesting.
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So I would say more of a, a learning of how those things
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happen and from the dealer perspective, from the buyer
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perspective, from the production perspective, I'd love to see the
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process of a card from PSAI mean PSA has a channel.
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I'd love it if PSA just chose a, a box that showed up and they
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show us opening the box. Then what happens then where's
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it go? Then it gets identified.
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The research process, how's that work?
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What's that look like? Take us into the grading room.
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What's that look like? What does it look like when they
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encapsulate the cards and add the flip?
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And how is what's automated? I want to see the process of how
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things work. We all, I mean most of us have
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sent in cards for grading, but we don't really know how it
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works. Why don't we see from the time
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the package arrives, literally the delivery come in from the
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post office to the the card or the cards are packed back up
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into a box and then sent back out?
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I think that would be really interesting.
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I think that would get a ton of views.
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Now, I'm sure that there are certain things that they don't
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want to show and that's a whole different, you know, that's a
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whole different topic, but I want to see how things work.
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I want to learn the process of of what's happening in the
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industry, from production to buying to selling to all of it.
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Documentary style behind the scenes.
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I think that'd be interesting. My good friend Tony, Southern
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Collector 14, says the story of your Clemens purchase back in
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the day is awesome. My question for a future episode
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is the following. If you could only collect cards
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from one set for the next two years, what set would it be?
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This means picking one year of a certain set.
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Tony bringing a good question. You know, this is one of the
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things that I always find interesting is there are so many
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options in this hobby. There are so many directions we
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can go. There are so many targets, so
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many players, years, sets, eras, types of cards.
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There's so much. At times it's overwhelming.
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If you walk into the National and you're open to buying
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anything, that could actually be overwhelming, that could be too
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much. So by actually having a filter
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of I'm looking for this sort of thing, it allows you to actually
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make your way through the whole room because there is so much
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there. So when I think about this
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question, I think about what is a set that has a lot of cards
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that I'd like to have that I don't already have.
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Well, there are a lot of those. But then I also have to think
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about what are sets that are at a price point that I could
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afford to purchase more than one or two, Unless I'm OK only
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making one or two purchases 'cause I guess I could say
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something like the 33 Gaudi set and then I just save all year by
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one card from that set. I couldn't give that answer.
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That almost seems like cheating. So what's this set where I like
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a lot of the cards? I want a lot of the cards.
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It fits what I'm doing and what I'm currently working on, but
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there's enough there to be able to sustain me for a year.
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And I think it's got to be the T2O6 set and, and I know that a
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lot of people love the T2O6 set. A lot of people don't love the
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T2O6 set. I just have so many memories of
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a kid of seeing the Hannes Wagner going to cards, card
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shows, big card shows in the Bay Area and seeing in cases some of
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those and not knowing most of the players, but still just
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being like, those are incredible looking that I like having them
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in my collection. And it's interesting because
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I've kind of been changing my target a little bit.
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So when I started, I said I want to try to get one card from
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every Hall of Famer not named Wagner or Plank.
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And that's what I've been working on now for about 2 1/2
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three years. Just about the time I started my
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channel is about the time I started that project and, and I
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have several now. I, I, I, I probably should have
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looked, I, I'd say I have 30 of those cards, 35 of those cards.
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And some of them I have double ups.
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And recently I've been looking at them and I did a video a
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couple of weeks ago on cards that I think are some of the
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most beautiful cards. And I picked 2 cards from that
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set in my top 10 most beautiful cards in my collection.
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And both of them were portrait cards, which is interesting.
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And I've been looking at those cards because I've had a couple
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of a couple editions. On Friday of last week, I did an
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episode where I showed my pickups from the month of
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September and I had two new 2O6 cards that I added to the
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collection. And neither of them were
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portrait cards. And though I was excited to pick
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them up, I was kind of like, these aren't portrait cards and
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I don't know if I like him as much.
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So recently over the last like 3 or 4 days, I've been thinking
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maybe instead of trying to pick up one card of every player from
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the hall in the Hall of Fame from the T2O6 set not named
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Wagner playing for obvious reasons, maybe I go after all of
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the portrait cards from the T2O6 set not named Plank or Wagner.
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Now that's not to say that I won't own some of the action
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poses. I mean I love my hands at chest
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Walter Johnson card, I'm not getting rid of that.
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But instead of picking up all of the cards, I'm kind of now
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thinking I want to pick up all of the portraits because those
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are the ones that when I add a portrait to the collection, I
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get especially excited. There's something special about
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those at the National. I got the Ty Cobb red back
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portrait, I got the Cy Young portrait, and I was like, so
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jazzed to pick those up. So to answer your question,
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Tony, I'm going to say T2O sixes.
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I've been working on that project.
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I still have a long ways to go, even if I kind of change it to
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portraits. Let me know down below.
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What do you guys think? Should I continue on with trying
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to get all of them and, and again, that's like a lifelong
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type goal, or should I, I kind of narrow the scope a little bit
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and go over just the portraits, since those tend to be the ones
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that I like the best. And then I could pick up a few
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others of of cards that maybe if I, you know, like that
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particular card, like the Walter Johnson or, you know, a Sam
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Crawford or something like that. Let me know what you guys think
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about that. But T2O6, I'd say cracker Jack,
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Tony, but that's AI know you and your cracker jacks.
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I love them too. I just wouldn't be able to pick
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up many cards this year And and I like picking cards up from
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time to time. So I'm going T2O6 this next one
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says Greg. I've been collecting cards for a
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while now and most of them are ungraded.
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What price point or value of the card would you consider to set
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if you were to want to start grading some?
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Thanks. So my first question is, what's
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the reason you want to start grading them?
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Do you want to start grading them because you think it adds
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value? Do you want to grade them
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because you feel like it preserves and protects them?
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Do you want to grade them because you think they look
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better? Because depending on how you
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answer that question would depend on how I would answer
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that. I mean that those things matter
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in how I would respond. One of the main reasons
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personally that I am a fan of grading is I, I do think they
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look good. I think they look good graded.
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Some people don't. I think they look good graded.
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I think they make them more of like a museum piece.
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The way they're presented in, in a holder.
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I just think it's got information on them.
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They're they're kind of framed in, they look, they look
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awesome. And so I like them graded partly
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for that. Another reason I like them
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graded is the ease of being able to liquidate them because again,
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every card will be sold. It will be sold or it will be
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lost essentially. And so if they're graded, it is
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easier to transact cards because of the information on the card
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and because of the third party opinion.
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Even if the third party opinion is not a particularly great
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opinion, maybe you disagree with the opinion of the grade, at
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least it provides some more information about the card.
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So it kind of depends. Now, generally speaking, I think
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a price point is sort of like this.
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If if the cost of grading adds at least that amount of money to
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the value of the item, then it's probably worth grading.
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So for example, if I have a card that as it sits ungraded is a
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$40 card and I decide I want to send this to grading at PSA and
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we'll say it's $25. I know the prices are moving
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around and stuff, but let's just say it's $25.00.
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So I got this ungraded card, $40 ungraded, it's $25 to get it
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graded. OK, so now I would have a a $40
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card plus $25 for a total of $65 that would be spent on it.
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If if the increase in value of getting it graded is more than
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the $25, meaning the card is worth more than $65 now that
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it's in in a holder, then I would say it's probably worth
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grading. Because if you can create more
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value from grading it than it costs to grade it, then you have
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added value. You have a gain in value as a
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result. And I know a lot of people are
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like, oh, value, value. I understand that.
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But again, at some point they're going to be sold and they may
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not be sold to you. So you may not care about the
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value, but you do probably care about the person who is going to
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sell it. The person who is going to end
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up with the card, selling the card.
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You probably care that they get top value for it and they get as
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much as possible for it. When when I am gone, I hope that
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my wife and my kids, if they decide to sell the house, get
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the most money possible for the house.
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And so in the meantime, I'm going to keep the yard looking
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nice. I'm going to maintain the house.
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I'll, you know, clean out the gutters and paint the house and
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make sure that the roof is in good condition.
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I'm going to do all those things to try to keep the value of the
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house up even though I'm not planning on moving.
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So if I'm not planning on moving, who really cares what
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the house is worth? At some point it will matter.
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So I guess my simple rule of thumb is if you can spend $20 to
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make something worth $30 more, $40 more, $50 more, $60.00 more
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than it seems like a pretty good investment.
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Sort of like there's certain things you could do to your
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house that will make it increase in value more than it costs.
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So maybe it costs $8000 to recarpet your house, but
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recarpeting your house makes your house worth $20,000 more
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valuable. Well then that seems like a no
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brainer. You can spend 8 grand to add 20
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grand in value. That would make sense.
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So if you can do something to the card to add more value than
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the cost to do it, then you're at a net positive.
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Now we don't really know, and I know what you're thinking some
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of you are saying, but we don't know how much value it's going
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to add. It depends on how it's graded,
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depends on the grade that it receives.
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When I do that process, I tend to go very conservatively.
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I go worst case scenario, this card is going to get a six.
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If it gets a six, is it going to still be a net positive by
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spending the money for grading? And if it is, then it's worth
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it. And then if it gets A7 or an 8,
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you come out even further ahead, right?
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So that's kind of my rule of thumb is the cost to grade.
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If I'm going to gain at least or more than that, the amount in
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value is probably worth it. But again, if you like your
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cards ungraded, if you prefer your cards ungraded, then you
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can leave them ungraded. Of course, you don't have to
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grade anything, but that's sort of my rationale for what I do.
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But the other thing is, is maybe it doesn't increase it in value,
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but it increases your joy of that card more than $15.00.
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That's another reason to do it if you really like the way that
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they look holdered, if it preserves them, if you think
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that it adds a professional look to the card and and it adds $15
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or in this case I think I was saying SG or PSA was 25.
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If it adds $25 in value to the card in your enjoyment, even if
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the card doesn't go up in value $25.00, but you like it $25 more
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than grade it. This next one says thanks for
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answering my question Greg. I will give Card Ladder a try.
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Here's a new question for you. The last two years I went down
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the rabbit hole and picked up graded cards of all the Hall of
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Farmers in the 1961 Fleer and 1969 Topps basketball sets and I
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couldn't be happier with that endeavor.
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Most of those cards were quite reasonably priced as well.
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I know you are trying to put together all of the Hall of Fame
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player cards from the T2O6 set. Have you found that hunt
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rewarding, and do you find that it is frustratingly hard to find
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the examples you want? Also, since it is a much more
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expensive set to put together, will you be able to complete it
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someday? If and when you do complete it,
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what's next? Do you have any ideas of what
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rabbit hole you might go into next?
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Thanks. OK, I, I am.
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We're all wired differently and and some of us owning the card,
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having the card in our collection is our favorite part
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of the hobby. For me, the thing that is the
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fun part is is not necessarily owning it.
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It is the the hunt for the right item, The fact that it's hard to
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find T2O6 cards in the right price range that meets my I
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appeal thresholds. That's the fun part.
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I don't get discouraged by that at all.
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There are certain cards I have been searching for for multiple
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years, 234 years. I've been searching for certain
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cards and, and I started this T2O6 project about 3 years ago.
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And and that's the fun part, because then when you see one
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and it's the right one and the price is right, the payoff is
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fantastic. If something was easy, if it was
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easy to have, I mean, think about these people who like do
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an Iron Man and they've trained for months and ate their diet
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right for months. And they biked and they swam and
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they did everything and they rested and nutrition and weights
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and all this stuff. They worked and worked and
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worked and worked for so long. And then they crossed the finish
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line. Man, that's got to feel good,
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don't you think? It feels better crossing the
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finish line of a marathon then it would be running 40 in your
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front yard. I think that the payoff of of an
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Iron Man or a marathon is just incredible.
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It's got to be incredible when you're watching the Olympics and
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there's this athlete up on the medal stand and they're crying.
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There were years and years and years.
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Lucy had a game on Friday night and Lucy's been playing soccer
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since she was four. And Lucy has been a warrior.
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I mean, practices 3 nights a week, 50 minutes away.
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We would drive 50 minutes there, practice 50 minutes home for
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year after year after year after year, all with the hope of being
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a quality high school player with the big dream of maybe
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having the opportunity to make a college team.
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Like, that's really the goal because the number of kids who
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go on to play in the Olympics or play professionally is like such
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a small number. That's not even really a goal.
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The goal is I want to make my high school team and I want to
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be a good player on my high school team.
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Well, Lucy got offensive player of the year her junior year and
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her senior year she was a very productive high school player.
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And a Friday night she had a game about 3 hours from where I
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live and I took 1/2 day sub and I drove 3 hours to her game.
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And Lucy's team is very good. They're 14 or 15 and O and they
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were playing one of the best teams in their league.
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And Lucy gets some minutes. She doesn't play the whole game
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by any means. She probably plays about, oh, a
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quarter to half of the games now.
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Again, a very good team. So they're in this very tough
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game on Friday. This is last Friday, and it's 00
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and Lucy's on the field and she's in the right spot.
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A teammate makes a cross. Lucy sees it kind of get through
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some traffic, she sprints over. She hits a perfect shot up into
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the top left corner of the goal to go up 1.
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Nothing against the only team that beat her team last year and
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the excitement on her face and how high she jumped into the air
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with excitement and her team starts screaming and comes
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flying over hugging her. It.
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It was like the payoff for all of those long nights, all of
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those long road trips. It was arguably the biggest goal
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of her life and it was worth every second I spent on the road
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for that game. And that's the thing about
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cards, is when when you have these situations arise where
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there's the card, it's finally there, the right one that you've
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been waiting for and searching for, and you're able to acquire
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it. It makes it so much more
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special. If, if Lucy scored, you know,
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100 goals this season, that goal in that game, it would have
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meant something. If, if it was the first game
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when she was five years old, it would have meant something.
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But that goal was an accumulation of years of hard
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work to put herself in that spot at that moment.
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So I bet you're saying if you're still, if you're still
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listening, you're probably saying, oh man, I wish I could
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see the goal. Well, guess what, you're in
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luck. I don't.
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I mean, if you looked at the very top of the screen, the top
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right hand corner, there's one guy standing by himself who win.
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The goal goes in jumps up in the air.
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That was this guy super proud dad moment.
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The hunt the search makes that pay off when it happens so
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awesome. It it it makes it so much more
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special. This next one from my guy at
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Straight Race card says love the story on the Clemens Greg.
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Never get tired of hearing it. Question for next week.
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Can you share any more stories where cards or the hobby have
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had a profound impact on your life?
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Whenever I record any episode and I'm looking into the camera,
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my phone like this, I never know what I'm going to say.
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I don't have notes. I don't write things down, I
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just talk. I'm just me and for some people
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that's great and some people it's not.
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So I don't really know where this answer is going to go.
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So here we go. For me, this hobby, it's, it's
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so much more than cards. I hear people say, I mean, come
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on, it's just, it's just baseball cards.
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It's just sports cards. That's all.
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Like, what are we getting so worked up about?
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Or, you know, why do people get all bent out of shape?
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It's just cards. You know, my buddy Chris from
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Missouri, who loves collecting, he says it's just a hobby,
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collect what you like. I agree it's a hobby and I agree
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you should collect what you like, but in my opinion it's not
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just a hobby. This hobby is so much more than
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accumulating pieces of cardboard.
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This hobby is an escape from difficult times.
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Since my channel started three years ago, I've had some tough
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times. We got a phone call one
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afternoon couple of years ago that Megan, my wife, her dad had
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collapsed. The paramedics were there.
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He was unresponsive. Without any warning, he was
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gone. I went through that since this
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channel started and one of the things who that helped me get
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through that is this hobby is this channel are these carts.
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It's not just a hobby, It's it's like therapy.
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My dog, my best little buddy, the the endorphin rush I would
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get when I'd come home every day and she would be excited to see
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me. My good pal Mandy, I lost her
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since this channel has started and you know, I know people have
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different feelings about pets and the importance of pets.
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My dog, Mandy, she did a lot for me.
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She did a lot for my mental health and losing her was
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brutal. And I still at times come home
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and I'm like, and then I realize she's not here.
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It's been almost two years. It's been over a year and a half
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since I lost Mandy and this hobby helped get me through it.
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I went through some tough times in life.
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I've seen some people I care about go through some tough
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times in life. You know, when my parents split
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up as a kid, I don't find it coincidental that that's when I
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really got into cards. I don't find it coincidental
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that that's when my dad really got into cards.
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Cards were a massive form of therapy, I believe, for both of
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us during that brutal time. Another thing that happened
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right before I started my channel is my dad's wife passed
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away and my dad was he lost his wife.
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That was a absolutely excruciating time.
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And that's one of the ways that he got back into the hobby is I
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saw what he was going through. He needed a distraction.
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He needed a distraction from real life.
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And I dragged him back into the hobby and now he's back.
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I believe, I genuinely believe, that cards helped save my dad.
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I don't think that is just a hobby.
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I don't think that it's just cardboard with pictures of
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athletes or non athletes on them.
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This is more than that. This is a place that is safe,
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where we can go and escape the realities of the world.
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I've had some struggles with work over the last couple of
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years I've had I Another time I was heavy in the hobby was back
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around the year 2000 to 2002. I got kind of heavy into golf
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cards and I was going through some difficult times at that
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moment in my life, but cards helped get me through it.
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So for me, it's not necessarily a moment or a card that leaves
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an impression. This is not just a hobby to me.
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This is so much more than that. So whether somebody watches this
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channel, whether somebody finds me entertaining, it doesn't
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matter. At the end of the day, it
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doesn't matter because this hobby is helping me to be a
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better person. It is helping to distract me
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from negativity in this world, which there's a lot of right
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now. I did get a card and I pulled a
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card 'cause you asked for a specific card.
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But when my dog Mandy passed away, a friend of mine named
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David gave me a really special card, which is probably the
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first and one of the very few cards of a dog and his owner.
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And he sent me the card with a really nice note.
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And it made me cry because of how much it meant to me and that
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it was a way to honor and remember my relationship with
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Mandy. I know that we all are in this
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hobby for different reasons. And and people talk about values
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and people talk about investing and people talk about grading
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and people talk about added value like I was a few minutes
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ago. And people talk about modern,
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they talk about vintage. Everybody has a different set of
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reasons why they're here. I can just tell you that I don't
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think it's a coincidence that in some of the most difficult times
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of my life, I have been most involved in this hobby.
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I don't think it's a coincidence that in two of, if not the two
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of the toughest, the two toughest points of my dad's
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life, he was most involved in the hobby.
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This is not just a hobby. This community, this hunt for
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cards, this distraction from the realities and the horrors and
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the negativity that at times arise in life, at times can
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genuinely be lifesaving.