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Herald Now Full Episode 19 December · The SME Stream

• 0:20
  Speaker 1: Good morning and welcome to Herald Now. I'm Michael Mora.
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  Speaker 1: It's Friday, the nineteenth of December. On the show today,
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  Speaker 1: Glory of our School is to be shut down as
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  Speaker 1: it's the start of the process to dismantle the Commune.
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  Speaker 1: I'll talk with Brian Henry, the lawyer for the Glory
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  Speaker 1: of our leavers in just a moment. The economy has
• 0:39
  Speaker 1: shown some unexpected PEP just in time for Christmas. Fresh
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: figures show JEDDIP grew one point one percent in the
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: September quarter, so is momentum building. Economist Brad Olson on
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  Speaker 1: that shortly. Then after eight I'll be talking to the
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  Speaker 1: Kiwi born hero of the Bondi terror attacks. You will
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  Speaker 1: not want to miss this remarkable story of bravery. That's
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  Speaker 1: I'mandeep Singh Boa. Just after eight o'clock plus Headicats from
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  Speaker 1: Met Service with your Christmas weather forecasts. But first he's
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  Speaker 1: Wendy with the News.
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  Speaker 2: Herold Now News Howard by News Talk ZB more hope
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  Speaker 2: in the economy after a higher than expected rise in GDP.
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  Speaker 3: Later stats and Z data shows the economy has grown
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  Speaker 3: one point one percent in the September quarter, surpassing expectations.
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  Speaker 3: Strong growth is also expected in the December quarter. Mark
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  Speaker 3: Knoff Thomas, the chief executive of Auckland's Newmarket Business Association,
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  Speaker 3: says having the country officially backend growth should make everyone
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  Speaker 3: more optimistic.
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  Speaker 4: The GDP announcement is going to further add to the
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  Speaker 4: confidence and I think we can all look forward to
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  Speaker 4: some positive growth and a bit more happiness in the country.
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  Speaker 3: It's not the closure of Gloria Vale School is more
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  Speaker 3: complicated than just finding a new school. The Secretary of
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  Speaker 3: Education has canceled the Christian Sex school license, forcing it
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  Speaker 3: closed from January. It's been on notice for several weeks
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  Speaker 3: after failing another audit and being ruled physically and mentally
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  Speaker 3: unsafe as students. Education researcher Liz Gordon says it's not
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  Speaker 3: as straightforward as moving the students elsewhere.
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  Speaker 5: The ministry should, in the interim negotiate to put in
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  Speaker 5: a number of professional teachers, bring them to the community
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  Speaker 5: and have the kids talk dead.
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  Speaker 3: Poor interagency communications and a disability support group's lack of
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  Speaker 3: urgency are being highlighted after a five year old's death.
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  Speaker 3: Kaiser Delacroix drowned in a pond behind his family home
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  Speaker 3: on the Gisbon Farm in August last year. The young
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  Speaker 3: boy was diagnosed autistic and nonverbal and was known to
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  Speaker 3: go exploring Emily Ansel reports.
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  Speaker 6: Coroner Menaldogal's report states his mother had raised concerns about
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  Speaker 6: his climbing ability with support group kaide or Her, requesting locks.
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  Speaker 6: Coroner Dougals found wasn't promptly addressed. Kaidorher accepts the findings
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  Speaker 6: but says it's not a systematical training issue and they've
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  Speaker 6: now strengthened policies.
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  Speaker 3: A change in dynamic for the ASB Classic Tennis tournament
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  Speaker 3: as its home gets some upgrades. Auckland Council secured a
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  Speaker 3: fifteen million dollar revamp of Manuka Doctor Arena, including five
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  Speaker 3: million dollars for a new roof. Tennis Auckland CEO Rowan
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  Speaker 3: West says up until now venues in Brisbane, Sydney and
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  Speaker 3: Perth have better options for players as they all have roofs.
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  Speaker 7: With Auckland your rolling the dice because the players do
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  Speaker 7: know that it can be a bit rainy, can be
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  Speaker 7: a bit windy.
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  Speaker 3: Auckland's in store for a new cemetery to the northwest.
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  Speaker 3: The councilors agreed to buy six point five hectares of
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  Speaker 3: land next to an existing private cemetery in Cumu. Early
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  Speaker 3: this year, our newsroom revealed t Waikumeti Cemetery, Auckland's largest,
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  Speaker 3: had run out of space and stopped burials. In mid
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. Auckland Council says every year it carries
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  Speaker 3: out fifteen hundred burials, one thousand ash bears and almost
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  Speaker 3: two and a half thousand cremations.
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  Speaker 2: Harold Now Sport brought you by gold Sport.
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  Speaker 3: New Zealand amassed a wall of runs on the opening
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  Speaker 3: day of the Third cricket Test against the weinst Indies
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  Speaker 3: in Mount Montanui. The host of three hundred and thirty
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  Speaker 3: four for one. England heads into day three of the
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  Speaker 3: Third Ashes Test in trouble at two hundred and thirteen
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  Speaker 3: for eight to one hundred and fifty eight runs behind
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  Speaker 3: Australia's first innings and tall Black's guard Shay Elly has
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  Speaker 3: reaggravated a hamstring injury. It is Melbourne United Side ninety
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  Speaker 3: seven seventy five Australian Basketball League thumping of the Elawora Hawks.
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  Speaker 1: You're watching Harold Now. I'm Michael Morris. So the government
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  Speaker 1: has finally moved to close Gloria Vale's private school, saying
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  Speaker 1: it failed to provide sufficient evidence that students are emotionally
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  Speaker 1: and physically safe. It's been a long time coming. The
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  Speaker 1: schools registration will be canceled from January twenty three next year. Predictably,
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  Speaker 1: glory Zeval is preparing to challenge this decision in court,
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  Speaker 1: calling the Education Ministry's position quote unjust. This is, however,
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  Speaker 1: one of the most significant actions any government has taken
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  Speaker 1: in regards to Gloriavale in decades, because in theory, it
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  Speaker 1: means hundreds of children will likely need to leave Gloria
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  Speaker 1: Vale and interact with teachers and pupils outside the compound
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  Speaker 1: and away from the dominance and control of Gloriavale's leadership.
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  Speaker 1: It's no surprise then that Gloriavale's top dogs are lining
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  Speaker 1: up to challenge this. They won't like it because for
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  Speaker 1: decades their children have been taught a curriculum that's based
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  Speaker 1: on their beliefs, and the young people have then been
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  Speaker 1: put to work to prop up Gloriavale's multi million dollar empire.
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  Speaker 1: What I think is inexcusable is how long it's taken
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  Speaker 1: education officials to act for decades, it's been known there
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  Speaker 1: have been problems at Gloriavale's school. There have been various
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  Speaker 1: scandals with teachers along the way. The curriculum where girls
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  Speaker 1: are taught cooking, laundry and childcare has been described as
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  Speaker 1: sex It must also be remembered that the last two
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  Speaker 1: overseeing shepherds at Gloriavale, who have total control and influence
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  Speaker 1: in the community, Howard Christian and Hopeful Christian and Howard Temple,
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  Speaker 1: are both convicted sex offenders. Gloriavale's registration being canceled has
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  Speaker 1: not come about because of the diligence and careful oversight
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  Speaker 1: of our education officials. It's come about because of the
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  Speaker 1: bravery and sustained pressure of those who have escaped Gloria Vale,
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  Speaker 1: who have been speaking up about the dangers of learning
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  Speaker 1: there for many years. More on this shortly.
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  Speaker 2: Gerald Now weather brought you by You do It Kitchens.
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  Speaker 8: Good morning. It's a bleak into the week today with
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  Speaker 8: a series of frants heading north over the country followed
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  Speaker 8: by a very cold southwesterly flow, so that means heavy
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  Speaker 8: rain watches for the ranges of Westland and headwaters of
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  Speaker 8: the Canterbury Lakes and rivers. Till for this afternoon. There's
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  Speaker 8: also road snowfall warning for Milford Road till ten tonight
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  Speaker 8: and the Crown Range Road till two tomorrow morning.
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  Speaker 3: So plenty of.
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  Speaker 8: Rain here first up, but it does start to ease
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  Speaker 8: from the south from late this morning, windsor gusty, but
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  Speaker 8: also easing tonight. Now Canterbury including christ Church you will
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  Speaker 8: have rain developing from mid day. It will be heavy
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  Speaker 8: and thundery with hail till late this afternoon with gusty southwesterlies.
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  Speaker 8: It's pretty cloudy and showery over the lower North especially
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  Speaker 8: from this afternoon. Will turn to rain tonight with strong
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  Speaker 8: north or northwesters during the day. Looking good out east,
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  Speaker 8: just high cloud increasing throughout the day. A few showers
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  Speaker 8: though for to and Pope Or with showers tonight for
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  Speaker 8: Totonger and plenty of cloud around for the upper North
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  Speaker 8: with the chance of showers from mid morning. It'll turn
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  Speaker 8: to rain for Auckland tonight with westerlies.
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  Speaker 1: The underfire private school at Gloria Vale Religious Commune is
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  Speaker 1: set to close. Education bosses say they'll cancel the school's
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  Speaker 1: registration and move. Gloria Vale says it will challenge to
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  Speaker 1: discuss this, and I'm joined by Barrister Brian Henry, who
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  Speaker 1: led two successful employment court cases against the commune and
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  Speaker 1: its leaders. Brian really appreciate you being with us this morning.
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  Speaker 1: How significant is this move in your mind?
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  Speaker 9: That this is critical because it is the school that's
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  Speaker 9: the total neighbor of the society. You've got to remember
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  Speaker 9: it's been running for about fifty years, so you've got parents,
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  Speaker 9: you've got grandparents, and now you've got little children who
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  Speaker 9: are totally educated into this system. And the documents setting
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  Speaker 9: up Gloriawale say the purpose of this school is to
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  Speaker 9: teach Gloria Vale's structure, beliefs and to fit them out
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  Speaker 9: for what life's going to be like in Gloriavale. In
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  Speaker 9: other words, for girls, little education at all, but for
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  Speaker 9: boys if they're lucky a trade, otherwise they're just laborers.
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  Speaker 1: And so Gloriavale's saying that they're going to challenge this decision,
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  Speaker 1: I mean no surprise to you, right, considering how critical
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  Speaker 1: the school is to Gloria of VAL's operations. Can you
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  Speaker 1: elaborate a bit more on why the school is so key.
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  Speaker 9: It's absolutely critical because the whole ethos of the community
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  Speaker 9: is to entrap children. And one of the big reasons
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  Speaker 9: they shifted into the base of the South Island was
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  Speaker 9: because in Rangiora, if they were dispersed with parents, parents
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  Speaker 9: who left could get back at them easily. But more
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  Speaker 9: importantly was the fact that the children would escape and
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  Speaker 9: go into christ Church, and we had evidence in the
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  Speaker 9: trials that this was a big reason for them to
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  Speaker 9: go and isolate. Isolation is the absolute key to glory
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  Speaker 9: of veil and isolating and being able to control the
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  Speaker 9: input of information, which is keeping them separate, keeping them
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  Speaker 9: what they call unworldly is essential. If they are mixing
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  Speaker 9: in schools, the children that unwilderness will break down. And
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  Speaker 9: it's the impact I believe of other children who are
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  Speaker 9: brought up in normal families that will absolutely send the
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  Speaker 9: kids home saying why are we living in this slave
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  Speaker 9: like camp? And that's how it'll break down, because the
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  Speaker 9: kids will reject it, and the kids will start to
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  Speaker 9: talk back. The kids will.
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  Speaker 1: Question the leader.
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  Speaker 9: Remember this is a group that we're using suffocation techniques
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  Speaker 9: to break the free will of children that starts to
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  Speaker 9: fold the bits when they see other children playing competitive games.
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  Speaker 9: For example, if they get involved in a soccer game,
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  Speaker 9: and they a winning team. Normally kids come home all
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  Speaker 9: proud of it. If you did that very well, you're
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  Speaker 9: in big trouble because that's having self, that's showing that
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  Speaker 9: you're better than everybody else.
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  Speaker 1: So you think, Brian, this is very much the start
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  Speaker 1: of what could be the dismantling of this commune. You
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  Speaker 1: think this is the first sort of part to go.
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  Speaker 9: It will be a big step in breaking the control
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  Speaker 9: of these I don't know what I want to call them,
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  Speaker 9: these leaders, that's just call them that. And once they
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  Speaker 9: start losing control of the children, then the community will
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  Speaker 9: fall to bits. I heard on the news some experts saying, oh,
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  Speaker 9: I should just send teachers into Glory Vale. That would be,
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  Speaker 9: to my mind, a disaster. They need to have outside teachings,
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  Speaker 9: but they need to be taken off site, and they
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  Speaker 9: need to actually be integrated into the system and integrated
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  Speaker 9: in with other children and integrated into normal classes, because
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  Speaker 9: that's where they will get a proper education. A lot
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  Speaker 9: of education doesn't come from the teachers. It actually comes
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  Speaker 9: from being with schoolmates, and that's the establishing themselves as
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  Speaker 9: part of the free society we run. And education isn't
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  Speaker 9: just about a teacher. It's about the environment in the school,
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  Speaker 9: it's about meeting other children, it's seeing freedom.
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  Speaker 1: Brian, this it's taken a long time. I mean, why
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  Speaker 1: has it taken so long? I mean, we know we've
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  Speaker 1: had these two ar RO reports that have been highly critical,
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  Speaker 1: but surely prior to that there have been problems with
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  Speaker 1: Gloria Vale's school. Why is it that officials have suddenly
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  Speaker 1: acted now in twenty twenty five.
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  Speaker 9: Well, first, I'm pleased they have, but why is going
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  Speaker 9: to be a very interesting question, because that's something that
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  Speaker 9: we will be dealing with in the courts. We've always
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  Speaker 9: seen education and the ability to educate as the enabler
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  Speaker 9: of this particular group of we say it's a sex
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  Speaker 9: offender's cloaked in religion. It's this ability to educate and
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  Speaker 9: keep isolated that has let them survive. I have no
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  Speaker 9: clue how any er official can go into that school
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  Speaker 9: and come away believing that they're getting a proper education,
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  Speaker 9: given the way that isolated, given the curriculum. You look
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  Speaker 9: at the NCAA's well of the woman that gave evidence
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  Speaker 9: in the Pilgrim case we call the Team's case, their
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  Speaker 9: educations are visible. All they did was literally got to
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  Speaker 9: an age where they could be pulled out of school
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  Speaker 9: and put to work. They were working before school, after school,
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  Speaker 9: and very quickly full time the moment they're allowed to
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  Speaker 9: be pulled out of school.
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  Speaker 1: So Brian, would to be fair to assume at least
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  Speaker 1: that the Education Ministers Ministry is taking this step right
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  Speaker 1: now because you have launched legal action against them and
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  Speaker 1: other agencies alleging significant failures. I mean, could that be
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  Speaker 1: part of the reason why they've stepped in at this
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  Speaker 1: point to safe.
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  Speaker 9: I think it's a bit like sandpaper. The more we
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  Speaker 9: keep succeeding, the more we keep litigating, the more we
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  Speaker 9: keep rubbing them, the more officials are starting to suddenly
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  Speaker 9: sit up and say, oh, I might have a problem here.
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  Speaker 9: You've got to remember, we issued proceedings against specific civil
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  Speaker 9: servants and the court has ruled that you can't see them.
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  Speaker 9: Even though the neglance is as gross as can be,
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  Speaker 9: it has to be actually deliberate fraud or something like that.
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  Speaker 9: We are very serious in this litigation. The leavers I
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  Speaker 9: Act for cannot believe now that they're out there free
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  Speaker 9: and they're starting to understand the world why it is
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  Speaker 9: nobody came to help them. In twenty fifteen, there was
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  Speaker 9: a lot of television publicity and they created this all
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  Speaker 9: of government response and that included education and they get
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  Speaker 9: it going and then they abandoned it. And they abandoned
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  Speaker 9: it because all the local agents apparently we're working well.
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  Speaker 9: That's been going to be tested in court because these
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  Speaker 9: kids were still slaves. Nothing had changed at all. It's
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  Speaker 9: not as if that had any difference. They were still
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  Speaker 9: using suffocation. The government knew they were using suffocation and
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  Speaker 9: did nothing. And all we say is all around in
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  Speaker 9: action by civil servants that is just to me unbelievable.
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  Speaker 9: As decent Kuman beanks. You should have seen this in God,
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  Speaker 9: my god, what's going on? They didn't. And I look
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  Speaker 9: forward to full discovery into the education reports and the
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  Speaker 9: documents because we haven't had that yet. That will come.
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  Speaker 9: But when we see that, I honestly just don't know
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  Speaker 9: how they explained this away. I don't know, but we'll see.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, we will see a lot more to come
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  Speaker 1: on this. Brian. We really appreciate your time this morning
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  Speaker 1: and your insights. That is Brian Henry, barrister and lawyer
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  Speaker 1: for Gloria Vale Leavers. Now if you've got anything to
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  Speaker 1: say about any of the topics for covering to then
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  Speaker 1: do flick us an email. That's Herold now at inzidherld
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  Speaker 1: dot co dot nzid Herald now at inzidher dot co
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  Speaker 1: dot Inzen, because we would love to hear your feedback. Well.
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  Speaker 1: In the US, President Trump has addressed the nation, promising
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  Speaker 1: an economic boom. American voters are unhappy with the rising
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: costs of living, but Trump's insisting the price of petrol
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: and groceries is on the way down.
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  Speaker 10: We're poised for an economic boom the likes of which
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  Speaker 10: the world has never seen. Soon, we will host the
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  Speaker 10: World Cup and the Olympics, both of which I got.
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  Speaker 10: But most importantly, we will celebrate the two hundred and
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  Speaker 10: fiftieth anniversary of the Declaration of Independence. There could be
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  Speaker 10: no more fitting tribute to this epic milestone than to
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  Speaker 10: complete the comeback of America that began just one year ago.
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  Speaker 1: That was, of course, Donald Trump. Well back here. The
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  Speaker 1: latest GDP figures show the New Zealand economy grew one
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  Speaker 1: point one percent in the September quarter. The rebound follows
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  Speaker 1: of fall in June. So what are we to make
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  Speaker 1: of the latest data. Economist Brad Olson is here. Hey, Brad,
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  Speaker 1: thanks for being with us this morning, a bit bit
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  Speaker 1: of economic Christmas chair after a lot of gloomy forecasts.
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  Speaker 1: Is this quite significant in your opinion?
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  Speaker 11: Well, look, it certainly starts us on a better track.
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  Speaker 11: I think we've got to be realistic. It's not an
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  Speaker 11: immediate and sort of overwhelming bounce back in the economy
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  Speaker 11: in terms of.
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  Speaker 12: The recovery rarely rolling on.
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  Speaker 11: We know that economic activity, yes, was up one point
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  Speaker 11: one percent in the September quarter. That follows a one
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  Speaker 11: percent drop though in the June quarter, so we're sort
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  Speaker 11: of more back to where we were towards.
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  Speaker 13: The start of this year.
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  Speaker 11: Not a bad place to be. We've filled in some
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  Speaker 11: of the hole, but we certainly haven't got the economic
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  Speaker 11: motor fully running underneath the surface though. I think that's
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  Speaker 11: where you see again a few more signs of better
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  Speaker 11: or improvements for twenty twenty six, the likes of durable
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  Speaker 11: spending so longer term stuff on electronics and similar that
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  Speaker 11: picked up for household So that does look like there's
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  Speaker 11: a little bit more momentum beneath the surface, but we're
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  Speaker 11: certainly not wanting to overplay it just yet.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the bean Zetas said we need to
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  Speaker 1: remain skeptical and it's quote more noise than signal. Is
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  Speaker 1: that fair in your opinion, or is that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: overstating it.
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  Speaker 11: I think we do have to remain skeptical. I mean,
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  Speaker 11: let's be clear that the GDP figures have been bouncing
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  Speaker 11: around a lot the last couple of quarters. They've been
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  Speaker 11: big ups, big down downs, big ups again, so there
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  Speaker 11: is a lot of volatility. And if there's one call
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  Speaker 11: for next year, I really hope that we have not
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  Speaker 11: only better economic times, but sort of more reliable, stable
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  Speaker 11: economic times. You know, having a bit more confidence in
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  Speaker 11: what's going to happen in the economy is important for
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  Speaker 11: businesses when it comes to you know, investment decisions, hiring decisions, and.
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  Speaker 12: Getting jobs back.
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  Speaker 13: But I don't know if i'd say.
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  Speaker 11: It's more sort of noise than signal, because looking at
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  Speaker 11: some of the figures, you do see again a bit
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  Speaker 11: more of a pickup in some.
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  Speaker 12: Of the important areas.
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  Speaker 11: You saw a lift in the likes of business investment,
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  Speaker 11: in structure spending. You've seen again better export numbers in
• 19:03
  Speaker 11: some areas. So looking at those I think it's hard
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  Speaker 11: to sort of ignore them and say, well, look let's
• 19:08
  Speaker 11: throw up our hands and say we've got no idea
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  Speaker 11: what's happening with the economy. Yes there's a bit of volatility.
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  Speaker 11: Yes it's a little bit all over the place, but
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  Speaker 11: looking below the headline figures and that sort of jumpiness,
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  Speaker 11: you do start to see a little bit more activity.
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  Speaker 11: And the thing that I guess was pleasing to see
• 19:25
  Speaker 11: in the figures is that there was a bit more
• 19:27
  Speaker 11: broadness to the economic recovery. In that September quarter, you
• 19:31
  Speaker 11: saw I think fourteen of the sixteen industries that STATSN
• 19:34
  Speaker 11: said measures, all of those fourteen increased. Only two of
• 19:38
  Speaker 11: them then decline. So it wasn't that you had three
• 19:40
  Speaker 11: that were boosting away and the rest that were middling.
• 19:43
  Speaker 11: You had sort of fourteen that were doing a little
• 19:45
  Speaker 11: bit more than average. And so that level of I
• 19:48
  Speaker 11: guess restart is helpful as we head into the year
• 19:52
  Speaker 11: head But again you look at the likes of New
• 19:54
  Speaker 11: Zealand with that sort of one percent down one point
• 19:56
  Speaker 11: one percent up, compared to our Australian cousins who sort
• 20:00
  Speaker 11: of had zero point six then point four percent growth,
• 20:03
  Speaker 11: they are a little bit more consistent, and again that's
• 20:06
  Speaker 11: just helped their momentum get going a bit quicker.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, So what sectors exactly sort of continue to struggle?
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: If you know, obviously manufacturing performed pretty well. Where are
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: we struggling still?
• 20:19
  Speaker 11: You've seen a few areas that have still not performing
• 20:22
  Speaker 11: quite as strongly. The biggest decline in the September quarter
• 20:26
  Speaker 11: was in the information, media and technology sort of area,
• 20:29
  Speaker 11: and I think that's sort of just a combination of Again,
• 20:31
  Speaker 11: at the moment, everyone's a little bit sort of cautious
• 20:34
  Speaker 11: about how much money is going into some of those
• 20:37
  Speaker 11: other sort of sectors of the economy. But even the
• 20:41
  Speaker 11: likes of manufacturing and construction they did see a bit
• 20:43
  Speaker 11: of a boost in the September quarter.
• 20:45
  Speaker 13: They're still not running.
• 20:46
  Speaker 11: Great compared to where they could have been, say, two
• 20:49
  Speaker 11: years ago, but again that little bit of momentum is
• 20:51
  Speaker 11: starting to show through. And I think if you look
• 20:54
  Speaker 11: at the likes of construction, there was a lift in
• 20:57
  Speaker 11: particular that infrastructure area, which I think has been an
• 21:01
  Speaker 11: area that we expected to get going. The likes of
• 21:03
  Speaker 11: residential and non residential construction a bit of a boost
• 21:06
  Speaker 11: for some of those parts in the short term, but
• 21:09
  Speaker 11: again not running at sort of the highs they were
• 21:11
  Speaker 11: three years ago. And that's like, yes, the challenge right.
• 21:14
  Speaker 11: When we've looked at the figures for the September quarter,
• 21:17
  Speaker 11: they were better than June, which was a bit affected
• 21:19
  Speaker 11: by the Trump tariff announcements. They were better than the
• 21:22
  Speaker 11: September twenty twenty four quarter, but that was also influenced,
• 21:26
  Speaker 11: of course by the energy price shops that New.
• 21:29
  Speaker 13: Zealand saw at that time.
• 21:31
  Speaker 11: All of this is highlighting that we haven't as an
• 21:33
  Speaker 11: economy yet found what the new economic normal looks like,
• 21:37
  Speaker 11: what's the Goldilock zone, because we really don't have a
• 21:39
  Speaker 11: good reference point, and so it's a bit tough to
• 21:41
  Speaker 11: say with the economy. It's better than last year, you'd hope,
• 21:45
  Speaker 11: So at this point it's not as good as when
• 21:47
  Speaker 11: you know, inflation was running gangbusters, but I don't really
• 21:49
  Speaker 11: want to go back to that point either, And so
• 21:51
  Speaker 11: the feeling for twenty twenty six is you want the
• 21:53
  Speaker 11: momentum to tick up to enough of a pace that
• 21:56
  Speaker 11: job start to get going, that investment keeps moving, not
• 22:00
  Speaker 11: so much that you didn't start to overheat the economy,
• 22:02
  Speaker 11: because we've already seen those thoughts around interest rates needing
• 22:06
  Speaker 11: to rise, so there's a little bit of tempering all
• 22:08
  Speaker 11: of that. You want better economic growth. You don't want
• 22:11
  Speaker 11: it to become a runaway train.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, we don't want it to become a runaway train.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Brad Olson, thank you very much for joining us and
• 22:19
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• 22:22
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Herald Now, I'm Michael Mora. Well it's time
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: for our politics panel and joining me in thew Auckland studio.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Our nationals Chris Penkin, Labor's Willie Jackson cured a team nice.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Have you guys what it does? Well? The government has
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: decided to pull Gloriavale's school registration. You know, Chris, is
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: this the sort of are we starting to see Gloriavale unravel? Yeah?
• 24:45
  Speaker 20: I don't want to speak too broadly about it because
• 24:46
  Speaker 20: there's a particular decision about the school that's been made
• 24:49
  Speaker 20: by education officials. Obviously they needed to take their time
• 24:51
  Speaker 20: to reach a good conclusion for the students involved, and
• 24:54
  Speaker 20: of course that's the most important. But right that they've
• 24:56
  Speaker 20: got a quality, safe education and the decisions being made
• 25:00
  Speaker 20: that from two and one next year it will be elsewhere.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, you know, your government Minister Louise Upson
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: has told me on the record in the past that
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: she would not rule out closing Gloria Vale and its entirety.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Have you or any other minister's been provided any options
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: at all which would consider the closure of Gloria Vale.
• 25:20
  Speaker 20: Well, I mean, nothing's come to me particularly directly, but
• 25:22
  Speaker 20: I would say we've got to be really careful in space,
• 25:24
  Speaker 20: including you know, with your recent conversation with one of
• 25:27
  Speaker 20: the lawyers involved in all the different parties. It's really
• 25:29
  Speaker 20: important that we don't predetermine any outcomes, and especially if
• 25:33
  Speaker 20: there'll be court cases in relation to the school or otherwise,
• 25:36
  Speaker 20: that we don't leap into that and muddy the waters
• 25:39
  Speaker 20: in terms of further decisions.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: That could be made. Okay, Willie, should it be shut down?
• 25:43
  Speaker 21: Yeah, I mean we've got a pretty I suppose almost
• 25:46
  Speaker 21: bipartis an approach on that I expect. I just respect
• 25:50
  Speaker 21: what Chris is saying, what the government's saying, I mean
• 25:51
  Speaker 21: is a huge amount of concerns in the community. I mean,
• 25:56
  Speaker 21: you know, I'm not happy with it. You know my
• 26:00
  Speaker 21: personal view. You've got no support from me in terms
• 26:03
  Speaker 21: of labor. We're very much going down the check the
• 26:08
  Speaker 21: same way as the government.
• 26:09
  Speaker 22: We would have approached it the same way. So we've
• 26:11
  Speaker 22: got to suppose to lead the process go through.
• 26:15
  Speaker 21: But you know, we've all seen the huge concerns from
• 26:18
  Speaker 21: New Zealanders over there and over it and rightfully.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: So Okay, Chris, the latest numbers yesterday on GDP show
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: a bit of a recovery, although Brad Olson's just saying
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: we can't kind of overreget at this stage. What's your
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: take on those figures? Yeah, I think it's about right
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: a lot.
• 26:35
  Speaker 20: We're really pleased that we're ending with some Christmas chair,
• 26:37
  Speaker 20: as you quite rightly said just a few moments ago,
• 26:40
  Speaker 20: but we know that the hard work's got to continue
• 26:42
  Speaker 20: from the government side to support keyy businesses to continue
• 26:44
  Speaker 20: to do well. Great news for manufacturing and construction, which
• 26:47
  Speaker 20: I watched pretty closely, but it's clear that you know,
• 26:50
  Speaker 20: these are results in the second half of the year.
• 26:52
  Speaker 20: All the merchants of doom and gloom, like our Metia
• 26:56
  Speaker 20: tuning off the telly at halftime in the footy when
• 26:59
  Speaker 20: declaring the game to be wherect you're going to have
• 27:01
  Speaker 20: had a much better twenty twenty five than everyone had
• 27:03
  Speaker 20: been thinking. It's only twenty twenty six. Is now really
• 27:05
  Speaker 20: well set up with those fundamentals in places?
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Willie, you would agree, wouldn't This is
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: really this is further evidence that the government government's done
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: a great job with the books.
• 27:13
  Speaker 22: And I wonder they've sent Christen this week.
• 27:15
  Speaker 21: You know he's put of list positive spin on. I mean,
• 27:17
  Speaker 21: it's been a total disaster, hasn't it. You know they've
• 27:19
  Speaker 21: got something and they're sort of saying, oh, look, things
• 27:21
  Speaker 21: are turning around. You know, you've got two hundred Kiwis
• 27:24
  Speaker 21: leaving New Zealand a day. You've got you've got record unemployment,
• 27:28
  Speaker 21: all time high in terms of nine years. You've got
• 27:31
  Speaker 21: these guys prioritizing their mates and the pack tobacco companies,
• 27:36
  Speaker 21: oil and oil and gas. It's a shocker borrowing for
• 27:39
  Speaker 21: their rich mates. Fourteen billion. Wasn't it that you that
• 27:42
  Speaker 21: you borrowed?
• 27:43
  Speaker 22: I mean it just goes on and on and on,
• 27:45
  Speaker 22: and the New Zealanders are sick of it. And you've
• 27:46
  Speaker 22: seen that in the latest poll, haven't you, Michael.
• 27:48
  Speaker 21: I mean they're thirty eight percent to thirty percent. So
• 27:51
  Speaker 21: no wonder they send christin today because you know.
• 27:54
  Speaker 22: Nothing against Christ for the big guns they're on the front.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: It's one of many polls to come. I'm sure about that. Now.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: I just want to talk a little bit about how
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Same and Brown said that it needs the government needs
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: to find half a billion dollars in efficiencies in the
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: health system. I mean, how, Chris do you do that?
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's already so many cuts, there's already not
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: enough staff. How are you're going to expect hospitals in
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: the health sector to find that money? Well, getting efficiency
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: is a good thing.
• 28:23
  Speaker 20: Let's be ready clear. And it's not the same as cuts.
• 28:25
  Speaker 20: It's about finding money that's currently being used inefficiently.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Well it is about cuts, though, isn't it, WHI Because
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: you can't increase in efficiencies within the health system without
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: without taking stuff away.
• 28:34
  Speaker 20: No, not necessarily. It's mostly about the common buitness. So
• 28:37
  Speaker 20: if you think about having a national level zoom contract,
• 28:39
  Speaker 20: for example, and saving a huge amount of money for that,
• 28:42
  Speaker 20: you know, the irony in all of this is actually,
• 28:44
  Speaker 20: these are the efficiencies that Labour said when they were
• 28:47
  Speaker 20: doing their poorly timed, poorly executed rationalizational restructure was actually
• 28:51
  Speaker 20: meant to come about because at an operational level throughout
• 28:54
  Speaker 20: the nation you can actually get these efficiencies. And now
• 28:56
  Speaker 20: Simon is getting on and doing exactly that. And the
• 28:59
  Speaker 20: reason is we can spend that money that's saved from
• 29:01
  Speaker 20: the efficiencies in the front line well doctors more as
• 29:04
  Speaker 20: we've already been seeing.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Willie, what do you what's your take on this government's approach.
• 29:09
  Speaker 21: It's never ending, isn't it. It's cut after cut after cut.
• 29:12
  Speaker 21: Then they put the spin on it. You know, I
• 29:14
  Speaker 21: will put the spin doctor in today to say, you know,
• 29:16
  Speaker 21: This is not about cuts.
• 29:17
  Speaker 22: This is more about efficiency.
• 29:19
  Speaker 21: You know, our people are struggling out there, people in
• 29:21
  Speaker 21: the in the rural sector, in the communities.
• 29:23
  Speaker 22: They need investment. There's not enough investment in terms of
• 29:26
  Speaker 22: the health dollar. The health dollar is actually down. We
• 29:28
  Speaker 22: invested more than these guys.
• 29:30
  Speaker 21: If you take a per person, he will come up
• 29:32
  Speaker 21: with a number. But he's just you know, you've seen
• 29:35
  Speaker 21: he's a spin doctor already this morning that we have
• 29:38
  Speaker 21: no New Zealanders are struggling. We want investment in employment.
• 29:42
  Speaker 21: We want investment in health, jobs, health and homes.
• 29:45
  Speaker 22: That's what lady is talking about, Michael.
• 29:46
  Speaker 21: And sadly these guys have forgotten the average New Zealander and.
• 29:50
  Speaker 22: Are suffering because of it.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: WILLI the road Cone hotline has come to an end.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Waste the money.
• 29:57
  Speaker 21: Well, another big and that was one the big investments
• 30:01
  Speaker 21: they did, the big PR on it.
• 30:02
  Speaker 22: I'm sure they were out there. Was that you out
• 30:04
  Speaker 22: there of doing the PR for that too.
• 30:06
  Speaker 21: Well, another total disaster and they've shut it up like
• 30:12
  Speaker 21: they're shutting everything else up.
• 30:14
  Speaker 22: Oh what a terrible year for you. Terrible said ye.
• 30:18
  Speaker 22: Think about that one.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: I mean one hundred and forty eight thousand dollars the
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: government spent on this road Cone hotline in the midst
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: of a massive cost of living crisis. It doesn't look
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: great now.
• 30:28
  Speaker 20: Look, if you listen to people in my electorates throughout
• 30:30
  Speaker 20: the country, this is a real big bug bear for them.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: It's not a big bug bear.
• 30:35
  Speaker 20: Will he just a minute ago, mo Away, who's talking
• 30:38
  Speaker 20: about it? Well, when I was talking about Willie.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: For a start, they're true, but.
• 30:41
  Speaker 20: He said, you know, it's a bad idea and these
• 30:44
  Speaker 20: the government's cut it like a cutting over the house.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: It served its purpose.
• 30:47
  Speaker 20: It's highlighted a lot of inconsistencies, a lot of frustration
• 30:50
  Speaker 20: that people feel it's the right thing to do now
• 30:52
  Speaker 20: to say to the Transport Agency, let's learn the lessons
• 30:55
  Speaker 20: of these reports people have made. Let's apply that consistence
• 30:58
  Speaker 20: throughout the country. Let's get the country years workers. I've
• 31:00
  Speaker 20: got to be saff on the road. But for goodness sakes,
• 31:02
  Speaker 20: let's sorry holding everything up unnecessarily.
• 31:04
  Speaker 21: We should we promoted this.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Doing a great job for Okay, Chris, Looking ahead to
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, an election year, what are the key
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: battle ground areas? How are you going to stay in power? Yeah?
• 31:19
  Speaker 20: Well, as a government with our coalition partners. We need
• 31:22
  Speaker 20: to keep doing the work to get New Zealand back
• 31:24
  Speaker 20: on track, as we say, but going forward as a
• 31:26
  Speaker 20: national party putting forward our policies, it's going to be
• 31:28
  Speaker 20: about fixing the basics. That's an ongoing ed work, but
• 31:31
  Speaker 20: also building.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: For the future.
• 31:32
  Speaker 20: So for example, Kee We Save is going to play
• 31:34
  Speaker 20: a major part in the way that we set ourselves
• 31:36
  Speaker 20: up as a nation for their coming decades.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Fixing the basics, though, was a policy when you were elected.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like you have actually done that. Yeah. Absolutely.
• 31:45
  Speaker 20: If you look at law and order, people feel safe.
• 31:47
  Speaker 20: For people are safety, many fewer victims as a result
• 31:49
  Speaker 20: of the law and order policies that we're brought in health,
• 31:52
  Speaker 20: some membrounds channing that around education through Erica Stanford's reforms, curriculum,
• 31:57
  Speaker 20: phones out of school, a lot of really possitive of changes.
• 32:00
  Speaker 20: People are feeling that difference. And as we go further
• 32:02
  Speaker 20: forward next year and being able to make those exciting
• 32:05
  Speaker 20: announcements for Nick for.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: The will really good stuff. Okay, okay, Willie, what about
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: what about your side? I mean, how are you guys
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: going to get back into power? And you know, Chippy
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: spoke to me and he talked about sort of a
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: new revitalized labor that there were going to be some changes.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: So what's the word inside.
• 32:22
  Speaker 21: Well, I think that it's paying off. Our campaigning is
• 32:26
  Speaker 21: paying off in terms of the.
• 32:27
  Speaker 22: Basics of life. Chris talked about jobs, health and homes.
• 32:30
  Speaker 21: That's what we're focusing on unapologetically, and we're getting a
• 32:34
  Speaker 21: great response from that. You know, we've got to put
• 32:36
  Speaker 21: them necessary funding and resources behind those areas. We've done
• 32:41
  Speaker 21: it before and we'll do it again. Jobs, health and
• 32:42
  Speaker 21: homes will be the big push for next year.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, and Willie, just before we wrap up here,
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: the Heel's reporting allegations this morning from Matt McCarten of
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: bullying at the Mauldi Urban Authority, where your wife has CEO.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: What's your response to those allegations.
• 32:58
  Speaker 22: I'm very sad by his allegations.
• 33:01
  Speaker 21: I mean, total lies against my wife. This has been
• 33:05
  Speaker 21: a betrayal with her. My wife actually helped save this
• 33:10
  Speaker 21: guy's life and he's gone after her like that. I
• 33:14
  Speaker 21: think it's just it just disgusts me, actually, mate, because
• 33:18
  Speaker 21: you know my wife Tania does here was She's done
• 33:21
  Speaker 21: magnificent work in terms of working with our people. You
• 33:23
  Speaker 21: should see what we've been doing doing in the last
• 33:25
  Speaker 21: three days on them and I she's been a man
• 33:28
  Speaker 21: away there.
• 33:29
  Speaker 22: For our people out there.
• 33:30
  Speaker 21: This guy live with us, My wife nursed him, he
• 33:35
  Speaker 21: was going to lose his life, and then she gives
• 33:37
  Speaker 21: them a job, and then he runs all.
• 33:39
  Speaker 22: These lies out. So I just can I just say
• 33:41
  Speaker 22: to all the people who are supporting.
• 33:43
  Speaker 21: Her, thank you, and we're very proud of her and
• 33:47
  Speaker 21: Moman and the work they're doing.
• 33:48
  Speaker 22: The only bully here is Matt mccarton. It's absolutely disgusting.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Okay, the article sensor suggest that you've been sort of
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: interfering in the Maldi Urban Authority.
• 33:58
  Speaker 21: Think you need to read the article properly because that's
• 34:00
  Speaker 21: not what it says. And Audrey Young has done a
• 34:03
  Speaker 21: very very good job and people need to read it.
• 34:06
  Speaker 21: It's very clear I haven't interfered, and she's made that clear,
• 34:10
  Speaker 21: and the boards made that clear. It's just that you
• 34:13
  Speaker 21: get a guy like McCarten who keeps running lies all
• 34:16
  Speaker 21: the time, and and and no one's buying it. No
• 34:20
  Speaker 21: one in mainstream media have touched it. All the politicians
• 34:22
  Speaker 21: that have seen it talk to me about it. You know,
• 34:25
  Speaker 21: put some evidence up, stop lying, and also show some
• 34:28
  Speaker 21: support for someone who saved your life, met Macarton. You
• 34:32
  Speaker 21: know he's going to say to you, he lived with
• 34:34
  Speaker 21: us for eight months.
• 34:35
  Speaker 22: This is a guy who lived with us.
• 34:37
  Speaker 21: My wife gave him a job when he was out
• 34:39
  Speaker 21: of luck, and this is and he comes up with
• 34:40
  Speaker 21: a whole bunch of lives. They need to read Audrey's
• 34:43
  Speaker 21: article though, and they'll get the background on it.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Okay. And so that you've you've felt forced to sort
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: of trespass him from.
• 34:49
  Speaker 21: Oh well, well it was the Moni Committee who did
• 34:52
  Speaker 21: that because it was a breach of trust from him.
• 34:55
  Speaker 22: I mean he was hired as the human resources officer
• 34:58
  Speaker 22: to the CEO. He goes in this that's building a union,
• 35:01
  Speaker 22: and then and then walks out and says, I'm coming
• 35:03
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  Speaker 1: Well, it is time to talk business with our partners.
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  Speaker 1: Two degrees. It looks looks like New Zealand's economy heads
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: into next year with some momentum for a decent start
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six. Is GDP shows third quarter growth
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: in nearly every sector. Garth Bray is here from Business
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: ESK Garth So what do you make of the one
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: point one percent boost? What do we see behind the numbers?
• 41:41
  Speaker 23: Yeah, and it's good to look behind that because obviously
• 41:44
  Speaker 23: that's just the headline figure, right.
• 41:46
  Speaker 13: I guess the point that.
• 41:47
  Speaker 23: Stats we're putting out yesterday when they were announcing this
• 41:50
  Speaker 23: was that that was broad growth across fourteen out of
• 41:53
  Speaker 23: sixteen of the sectors they measure, and that compares I
• 41:55
  Speaker 23: think with decreases in ten industries in the June quarter
• 41:59
  Speaker 23: when things price on the downside. So it's a rebound,
• 42:02
  Speaker 23: but it's a rebound that's sort of like the rising
• 42:04
  Speaker 23: tide that lifts all boats, if you like. And particularly
• 42:06
  Speaker 23: saw some strength there, I think in manufacturing, which is
• 42:10
  Speaker 23: narrowly negative for the year to date, but it was
• 42:12
  Speaker 23: up two point two percent, and construction that's back up
• 42:14
  Speaker 23: in the positives a little bit, still down three point
• 42:17
  Speaker 23: six for the year, and mining, which was a slight
• 42:20
  Speaker 23: uptick to end the end of down four percent. But
• 42:23
  Speaker 23: you'd imagine the news that you're probably going to hear about.
• 42:25
  Speaker 23: I think you're talking to the chat from ye you
• 42:29
  Speaker 23: expect those mining stats to start to look pretty impressive
• 42:31
  Speaker 23: as that money flows for.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: Invent So retail is still sort of struggling though, right.
• 42:35
  Speaker 13: Yeah, a little bit. And I guess this is the thing.
• 42:37
  Speaker 13: It's it's a little bit.
• 42:39
  Speaker 23: Of growth off a low base, so we're kind of
• 42:42
  Speaker 23: not out of the whole yet.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: So is this result much to crow about? I mean
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: we saw is you know, Nikola willis smiling yesterday.
• 42:52
  Speaker 23: Grab everything that looks like good news, you run with it,
• 42:54
  Speaker 23: And I guess this is it's one point three percent
• 42:57
  Speaker 23: and your growth and it so that matches the expectations.
• 42:59
  Speaker 23: It's you know, it's positive for the first time since
• 43:02
  Speaker 23: the middle of twenty twenty four. And I guess you
• 43:05
  Speaker 23: counterbalance this with some of the negative news we've had,
• 43:07
  Speaker 23: like the dairy price drops, the performance of Service index
• 43:10
  Speaker 23: of stuff that was suggesting that there was a bit
• 43:12
  Speaker 23: of heat coming out of services and sign.
• 43:14
  Speaker 13: So it's still quite a mixed picture.
• 43:16
  Speaker 23: And I guess it's you know, the economy basically spent
• 43:20
  Speaker 23: twenty twenty five on the couch. It looks like we're
• 43:22
  Speaker 23: getting bored and we want to get up and do something.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we want to get cracking on the trampoline
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: for sure. Okay, So looking over C's, the US economy
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: surprised with a lower than expected inflation figure.
• 43:33
  Speaker 23: It did with the important proviso, and I think that
• 43:37
  Speaker 23: they have had a shut down, and so there's some
• 43:39
  Speaker 23: real question marks over the data that's been collected, whether
• 43:42
  Speaker 23: they've held some prices constant because they just haven't been
• 43:44
  Speaker 23: able with the surveyors to get out and see what
• 43:46
  Speaker 23: the current data are. And so that was a two
• 43:48
  Speaker 23: point seven percent annual rate that was down from three
• 43:50
  Speaker 23: in September and well below the three point one consensus,
• 43:53
  Speaker 23: and that I suppose you didn't see a huge amount
• 43:56
  Speaker 23: of market reaction to that, possibly because people are thinking, hey,
• 43:59
  Speaker 23: a little bit of a pinch of salt here.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: We did see a big, pretty big reaction from Donald Trump.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: They didn't.
• 44:04
  Speaker 23: Oh, well, he's getting absolutely hammered on the cost of
• 44:08
  Speaker 23: over the app and I think it's more than fifty
• 44:12
  Speaker 23: percent of Americans think he's doing a terrible job on
• 44:14
  Speaker 23: the economy. So he will be taking every chance and
• 44:17
  Speaker 23: his you know, the pre presumptive naming pick for US
• 44:22
  Speaker 23: Fedgov until recently was.
• 44:23
  Speaker 13: Saying, oh, yeah, it's a great news as well.
• 44:25
  Speaker 23: It's great news if you believe it, I think, but
• 44:28
  Speaker 23: I know if you can quite believe it yet.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: I know. Well, he's talking about blower petrol prices and
• 44:32
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• 44:34
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• 44:38
  Speaker 1: We're firing up the barbies. Is it a good time
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: to heed a warning from the gas industry?
• 44:43
  Speaker 13: Yeah?
• 44:43
  Speaker 23: Probably not something you can necessarily do about it as
• 44:45
  Speaker 23: you're turning a sausage. But this is the guests working Group.
• 44:48
  Speaker 23: That's basically saying we've gotten through the worst of it.
• 44:51
  Speaker 13: We've had this.
• 44:52
  Speaker 23: You know, we had this real problem with the gas
• 44:53
  Speaker 23: shortages that were affecting industry.
• 44:55
  Speaker 13: And so on.
• 44:56
  Speaker 23: Don't take your foot off that guess, though, because it's
• 44:58
  Speaker 23: picking that there is a potentially cute energy security crisis
• 45:01
  Speaker 23: looming twenty six twenty seven unless we start to take
• 45:05
  Speaker 23: some serious steps to sort of help some of those
• 45:07
  Speaker 23: industries switch away or invest. They are saying that basically
• 45:11
  Speaker 23: is a potential shortfall by twenty twenty seven and around
• 45:16
  Speaker 23: twenty pettidules of energy.
• 45:18
  Speaker 13: What is a pettogol, you might ask, what is that? About?
• 45:20
  Speaker 23: Twenty eight million liters of unleaded would have about the
• 45:24
  Speaker 23: same energy as one petagul So be talking about that
• 45:26
  Speaker 23: amount of energy being sucked out of the economy. You know,
• 45:29
  Speaker 23: your greenhouses, your factories, your places that are going to
• 45:32
  Speaker 23: hire people and keep the wheels running.
• 45:34
  Speaker 13: They need to find that from somewhere.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, Garth, we always appreciate you analysis, and I think
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: you'll be back later on in the program anyway, so
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: we will see you back again soon. That is Garth Brave,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: of course from Business Desk and we talk business every
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: day with our partner's two degrees Well Canadian run Oceania
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Gold has been given fast Track approver to extend its
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: operations at why He Mine. The Ye North Extension became
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: the first major mining reject to gain consents under the
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: fast track rules, in a process that was completed in
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: just one hundred and twelve working days. The President and
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: CEO of Oceanic Gold, Jared Bond, joins me. Now, Jared,
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: thanks very much for being with us this morning. Just
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: first of all, for our viewers, can you please explain
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: the why He North Extension and what's involved in this project?
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: And I think, Jared, if you could just unmute your laptop.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: We're having a bit of difficulty hearing you over here.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: Can you hear us? Okay? Gerard can you unmute? Okay? Look,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: I think we're going to have to come back to
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: Gerard because we've got a little bit of a problem
• 46:51
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• 46:54
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• 46:56
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  Speaker 1: interview about the fast track approval given to Canadian run
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  Speaker 1: oceany A Goal. The presidents and CEO of the company,
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  Speaker 1: Gerard Bond, joins me. Now first up to Roed, thank
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: you very much for being with us. And so what
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: is the Yhi North extension and what's involved in this project?
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: Can you just give us a little bit of background.
• 49:28
  Speaker 25: Sure, So we operate the y He mine presently and
• 49:32
  Speaker 25: ten kilometers north of it is a fabulous all body
• 49:36
  Speaker 25: called Faircure upon our underground and what the Yi North
• 49:39
  Speaker 25: project allows us to do is to tunnel underground to
• 49:44
  Speaker 25: access it. It also allows us to do the surface
• 49:48
  Speaker 25: works near that tunnel. It allows us to prepare a
• 49:52
  Speaker 25: tailian's storage facility site and do other water treatment and
• 49:56
  Speaker 25: other upgrades of the existing mind to allow this one
• 50:00
  Speaker 25: point two million ounces of gold to be brought into
• 50:03
  Speaker 25: the feedstock for the why He operation.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: Okay, so this would be pretty significant in terms of
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: economic benefits.
• 50:11
  Speaker 13: Right, well, very much so.
• 50:14
  Speaker 25: I mean it's we're investing over one billion dollars in
• 50:18
  Speaker 25: New Zealand to.
• 50:20
  Speaker 12: Develop this project.
• 50:22
  Speaker 25: Then we run it for at least a decade and
• 50:25
  Speaker 25: hopefully many decades because we think the your body will grow
• 50:28
  Speaker 25: in size with exploration. That keeps four hundred and seventy
• 50:32
  Speaker 25: eight employees today employed. That keeps one hundred contractors that
• 50:36
  Speaker 25: we have today at why he employed.
• 50:38
  Speaker 13: We add a further one to two.
• 50:40
  Speaker 25: Hundred jobs in the construction period. And all of these jobs,
• 50:43
  Speaker 25: so that's nudging seven hundred jobs. All of these jobs
• 50:47
  Speaker 25: are high paying and very productive. That generates export earnings
• 50:52
  Speaker 25: for New Zealand at today's prices on that one point
• 50:56
  Speaker 25: two million ounces of reserve only of.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: Over eight billion dollars.
• 51:01
  Speaker 25: So yeah, a tremendous economic boost to New Zealand and
• 51:04
  Speaker 25: the local community.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Is there any guarantee of that? I mean, I
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: think some of the forecast said that it would have.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: The project was expected to generate about five point two
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: billion an additional silver and gold exports over its eighteen
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: year life. Is it any guarantee that you'll actually pull
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: out that much gold and silver or is that just speculation?
• 51:26
  Speaker 25: Well, no, there's somewhere in between. There are no guarantees
• 51:29
  Speaker 25: in mining, okay, So but this we have an existing
• 51:33
  Speaker 25: operation that we've been operating for decades, and this is
• 51:37
  Speaker 25: a new are source. We have done enough drilling to
• 51:40
  Speaker 25: give us the confidence to invest that one billion dollars,
• 51:43
  Speaker 25: so we take that risk.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: It's five years.
• 51:46
  Speaker 25: Until that are comes to the mill, so we take
• 51:49
  Speaker 25: that risk. But we know it's there. We know it's
• 51:52
  Speaker 25: a fabulous or body. We are an experienced minor. We've
• 51:57
  Speaker 25: been operating in New Zealand for thirty five years. We
• 51:59
  Speaker 25: do so safely and responsibly, so as we're highly confident
• 52:04
  Speaker 25: that this project will deliver that or to that mill.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: Environmental groups have called the decision a crime against the
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: environment and our communities. Quote what's your response.
• 52:17
  Speaker 25: Well, look, I mean we have a large number of
• 52:22
  Speaker 25: environmental scientists and ecologists who have spent almost a decade studying.
• 52:30
  Speaker 12: The environment and.
• 52:30
  Speaker 25: Making sure that our operation here is not going to
• 52:33
  Speaker 25: harm the environment. I'm highly confident and we state that
• 52:38
  Speaker 25: we are going to have a net positive biodiversity impact
• 52:41
  Speaker 25: in that area, so we know our activity isn't going
• 52:44
  Speaker 25: to impact flaora and fauna at surface, and we're investing
• 52:48
  Speaker 25: money to address what is the biggest challenge to that environment,
• 52:53
  Speaker 25: which is predators.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: We're going to have a predator.
• 52:56
  Speaker 25: Control program of eighteen thousand hectares, the largest in New Zealand,
• 53:00
  Speaker 25: to give that net positive biodiversity impact.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: As part of the problem. As part of the problem,
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: Durra that you know in New Zealand, Kiwis have long
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: been pretty skeptical of mining. I mean it's a very
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: different equation for example, of what you've got in Australia.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: Do you think people's views of mining in New Zealand
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: are changing at all?
• 53:22
  Speaker 25: Well, I think they are, and some of the surveys
• 53:24
  Speaker 25: done by media in the last twelve to eighteen months
• 53:27
  Speaker 25: have confirmed that.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: But here is an important point.
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  Speaker 25: We're spending hundreds of millions of dollars to access this
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  Speaker 25: or body from underground. There is no surface impact here, Okay,
• 53:37
  Speaker 25: in an area in this forest park of seventy seven
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  Speaker 25: thousand hectares, we have only the only thing that's seen
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  Speaker 25: at surface are two vent ducts to provide oxygen to
• 53:46
  Speaker 25: those miners working undergrounds. That's an impact on land of
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  Speaker 25: around the size of two tennis courts two tennis courts
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  Speaker 25: of land clearing in an area of seventy seven thousand hectares.
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  Speaker 25: That's a low environmental impact and We're invest the money
• 54:00
  Speaker 25: to do this responsibly by the environment.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Jared Bond, best of luck with the project. That
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: is Jared Bond, the president and CEO of Oceaning, a
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: gold mining company. Next, we're heading to Dunedin and a
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: curious story about a suburban seal. And then head of
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: Keeps from met Service is in to deliver all that
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: critical information about your Christmas weather forecast. Then after eight
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: you don't want to miss this interview. The key we born,
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: hero of the Bondi terror attack, joins me live. His
• 54:29
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  Speaker 1: Knowing you're watching herold now. Police were called to a
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• 56:43
  Speaker 1: They found a victim seriously injured just after six pm.
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  Speaker 1: After arriving, they found another person with a serious arm injury.
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  Speaker 1: The initial victim died at the scene, while the second
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  Speaker 1: is in a stable condition in Waycotor Hospital. Will update
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  Speaker 1: Now we're going to go to the South Island where
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: police are investigating a shooting in Gore which left too injured.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: Ben Thompson, New Zealand held Nan reporter is here. So Ben,
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: what's the latest on this? Good?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 28: So on Wednesday night, just after a pm reports of
• 57:18
  Speaker 28: a single shot. According to the police, they arrived the scene,
• 57:22
  Speaker 28: they found two people were injured.
• 57:24
  Speaker 29: They were both heirlifted to hospital, one serious injuries, one
• 57:27
  Speaker 29: of moderate.
• 57:29
  Speaker 28: What's concerning is that the shooter is still a large
• 57:32
  Speaker 28: Police still.
• 57:32
  Speaker 29: Making inquiries, but they have been quite emphatic that this
• 57:37
  Speaker 29: is a very isolated incident. They've been reassuring the public
• 57:42
  Speaker 29: not to worry that no one else is at danger.
• 57:44
  Speaker 13: But that is of the latest update. They are still
• 57:49
  Speaker 13: looking for the shooter.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, And just to pivot slightly, the snoozing suburban
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: sea lion. I love this story. What's happened?
• 58:02
  Speaker 29: Yeah, So, on Tuesday morning, a blow walking his dogs
• 58:07
  Speaker 29: out at Saint Clare, which is a coastal suburb here Indonedo.
• 58:11
  Speaker 29: He came across a very pregnant sea lion having a
• 58:14
  Speaker 29: bit of a snooze in someone's doorstep there. What's significant
• 58:18
  Speaker 29: about this is this is, you know, at the start
• 58:20
  Speaker 29: of the sea lion breeding season, and here in Doneda,
• 58:23
  Speaker 29: after years of highly successful conservation efforts by the doc,
• 58:27
  Speaker 29: the sea lions so coming further and further inland they
• 58:29
  Speaker 29: could be more and more comfortable with people and being
• 58:32
  Speaker 29: in the suburban locations.
• 58:34
  Speaker 13: So this is almost the start of.
• 58:38
  Speaker 28: A pretty busy coming breeding season for the sea lions.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, Hey, Ben, thank you very much for speaking to
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: us this morning and for your time and insights. Throughout
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: the year down into need and really appreciate that that
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: has been Tomson. He's on here reporter. Well. With just
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: six sleeps to go, people are wanting to know what
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: the weather will be like for Christmas Day and to
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: fill usen Hea. The Keats is here from Met Service.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: We have a bit of a rough weather to get
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: through Christmas. Between now and Christmas. So what's happening this weekend?
• 59:11
  Speaker 8: First up, Yeah, well there's quite a bit of rain
• 59:13
  Speaker 8: expected today.
• 59:14
  Speaker 22: It's actually a pretty bleak.
• 59:15
  Speaker 8: Day around the country unfortunately, especially as people hit roads
• 59:18
  Speaker 8: this afternoon, and it's going to be something to be
• 59:20
  Speaker 8: mindful of. So we've got a couple of heavy rain
• 59:22
  Speaker 8: watches in place in the South Island, mainly the ranges
• 59:24
  Speaker 8: of the Westland District and also the headwaters of the
• 59:27
  Speaker 8: Canterbury Lakes and rivers about south of Arthur's Pass. That
• 59:29
  Speaker 8: will expire at four pm this afternoon. But that's what
• 59:32
  Speaker 8: you can expect some decent rainfall rates there. We've also
• 59:35
  Speaker 8: got roads snowfall warnings in place, which is a strange
• 59:38
  Speaker 8: thing to say this far into summer, but Crown Range
• 59:41
  Speaker 8: Road and Milford Road they are expecting snow there. Whether
• 59:44
  Speaker 8: it will settle or not, doesn't really not snow. Yeah,
• 59:47
  Speaker 8: so that's going to be in place tonight and tomorrow morning.
• 59:51
  Speaker 8: So yeah, there's a pretty cold, bleak kind of day
• 59:55
  Speaker 8: around the country and there will be plenty of thunderstorm
• 59:57
  Speaker 8: sparking up this afternoon as well. So like Canterbury crist
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 8: which can expect some thunderstorms pretty much from North Otago
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 8: all the way up to maybe Kai colder at a stretch,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 8: and then even on the northwest of the South Island
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 8: and the western side of the North Island. So it
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 8: could be quite an active day and it is going
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 8: to be worth keeping on an eye on the radar
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 8: on the app if you are planning on traveling.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, that has been cold in some places, not
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: necessarily here in Auckland where it's been so hot, but
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: I mean is this cold where they're going to continue
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: next week?
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 8: Yeah, So we've got quite a cold weekend ahead of us.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 8: We've got more snow expected on the passes, some of
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 8: those higher passes for Saturday and Sunday as well, and
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 8: we are looking at temperatures no one's going to hit
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 8: twenty to more in the South Island at any of
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 8: the major Touncil centers.
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  Speaker 13: Nineteen will be.
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  Speaker 8: The high and that will region I know, right, write
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 8: a letter, Sternley letter.
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  Speaker 22: Not much better.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 8: On Sunday, Wnica might hit twenty degrees, but it doesn't last,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 8: or at least it doesn't I guess it's not here
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  Speaker 8: to stay. But we will rebound to average early next
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 8: week and then things start to improve from about Tuesday.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 8: So Hawk's Bay on Monday high have only twenty two degrees,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 8: but then on Tuesday there high as twenty eight. So
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 8: we're just still in those swinging kind of patterns.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: Okay, and Christmas Day, as Santa Claus is going to
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: have a good trip around the country, going to be.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 22: A bit dice it's going to be a bit dicey.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 8: It's going to be flying in with a little bit
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 8: of turbulence on Christmas Eve, and then Christmas Day is
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 8: quite interesting. So we have two sort of I guess
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 8: influential features if you like. So low pressure system right
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 8: at the very bottom of the country, southern Ocean spinning around.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 8: That's feeding this cold showery west to sour wist flow
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 8: over much of the country, pretty much all of the
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 8: South Island, a little bit of the lower North Island.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 8: Then we've got a warm, moist and all west feed
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 8: coming down from the Tropics. For the upper half of
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 8: the North Island, a lot of showers, rain. For the
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 8: west coast of the South Island, there will be spillover.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 8: There will be showers, kind of peppering all over this
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 8: over the place, a little bit chilly for some in
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 8: the North Island, showery again with that humid air mass.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 8: So lots of places in line for warmer temperatures for
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 8: the upper North Island and places like Hawke's Bay will
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 8: hit thirty thirty one on Christmas Day, but it is
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 8: it's going to be a Christmas Day where you want
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 8: to plan for both indoors and outdoors.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, And is that going to continue into Boxing Day?
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 8: Yeah, sven Boxing Day is similar. We are seeing in
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 8: the models some decent high pressure moving over us from
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 8: about the twenty eighth, I know, right, that's what we want,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 8: so high pressure from the twenty eight Still far too
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 8: far out to say what's going to be happening for
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 8: New Year's Eve, but it does look like we'll get
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 8: some settled weather in between Boxing Day and New Year.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 8: As for the rest of summer, I don't want to.
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  Speaker 1: Comment, okay, fair square. Well, look I hope your phone
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: doesn't ring over the Christmas break with tropical cyclones and
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: other crises.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 8: We all just need a break from the severe weather.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 8: It's been a pretty heatic.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: Year that we've really appreciated you coming into be on
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: Herald now week after week. Very Christmas and have a
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: great holiday. Yeah, absolutely, that is of course. Head of
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: Keats met Service, head of news. Is two minutes past
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: eight and you're watching Herold Now. Good morning and welcome
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: to Herold Now. I'm Michael Mora. It's Friday, the nineteenth
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: of December. On the show today, he's the key we
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: hero of the Bondi Terra attacks. You will not want
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: to miss this remarkable story of pure bravery in helping
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: take down one of the gunmen. I'll be talking to
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: Amandeep Singh Boa next. The economy has just shown some
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: unexpected PEP just in time for Christmas. Fresh figures show
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: GDP grew one point one percent in the September quarter,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: So is momentum starting to build. The panel will weigh
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: in on that and the twelve pests of Christmas. What
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: farmers want you to know about the damage they're doing
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: to the rural sector and what you can do about it.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: That's Rural News. After eight thirty plus, Media insider Shane
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: Curry with the moves behind getting John Campbell back to
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: Radio New Zealand. It is four minutes past eight. He's
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: Wendy with the news.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: Herold Now News Howard buying News Talk zed be more
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: hope in the economy after a higher than expected rise
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: in GDP.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: Later stats and said data shows the economy has grown
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: one point one percent in the September quarter, surpassing expectations.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: Strong growth is also expected in the December quarter. Mark
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: knoff Thomas, the chief executive of Auckland's Newmarket Business Association,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: says having the country officially back and growth should make
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: everyone more optimistic.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 4: The GDP announcement is going to further add to the
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: confidence and I think we can all look forward to
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 4: some positive growth and a bit more happiness in the country.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: It's thought the closure of Gloria Vale School is more
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: complicated than just finding a new school. The Secretary of
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: Education has canceled the Christian sex school license, forcing it
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: closed from January. It's been on notice for several weeks
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: after failing another audit and being ruled physically and mentally
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: unsafe as students. Education researcher Liz Gordon says it's not
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: as straightforward as moving the students elsewhere.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 5: The ministry should in the interim negotiate to put in
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 5: a number of professional teachers, bring them to the community
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 5: and have the kids talk dead.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: Poor interagency communications and a disability support groups lack of
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: urgency are being highlighted after a five year old's death.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: Kaiser Delacroix drowned in a pond behind his family home
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: on the Gisbon Farm in August last year. The young
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: boy was diagnosed autistic and nonverbal and was known to
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: go exploring Emily Ansalt reports.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 6: Coroner Meneldoogal's report states his mother had raised concerns about
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 6: his climbing ability with support group kaide or Her, requesting locks.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 6: Coroner Dougals found this wasn't promptly addressed. Kyde or Her
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 6: accepts the findings but says it's not a systematical training
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 6: issue and they've now strengthened policies.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: A change in dynamic for the ASB Classic Tennis tournament
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: as its home get some upgrades. Auckland Council secured a
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: fifteen million dollar revamp of Manuka Doctor Arena, including five
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: million dollars for a new roof Tennis. Auckland CEO Rowan
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: West says up until now venues in Brisbane, Sydney and
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: Perth have better options for players as they all have roofs.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 7: With Auckland your rolling the dice because the players do
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 7: know that it can be a bit rainy camby a
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 7: bit windy.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: Auckland's in store for a new cemetery to the northwest.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: The councilors are read to buy six point five hectares
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: of land next to an existing private cemetery in Cumu.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: Earlier this year, our newsroom revealed ta Waikumeti Cemetery, Auckland's largest,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: had run out of space and stopped burials. In mid
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. Auckland Council says every year it carries
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: out fifteen hundred burials, one thousand ash burials and almost
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: two and a half thousand cremations.
• 1:07:24
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  Speaker 1: Okay, let's go to some breaking news news. Zealand Rugby
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: has announced Whitney Hanson as the new head coach of
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: the Black Ferns. Hanson, the daughter of former All Blacks
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: coach Sir Steve Hanson, is the only is only the
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: second female to hold the Black Ferns top job. She
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: will oversee eleven tests next year, followed by a British
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: and Irish line series in twenty twenty seven. Hanson has
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: described her appointment as an honor and since she can't
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: wait to get started with a group of plays. She's
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: described as having generational talent. Hanson was assistant coach of
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: the Black Ferns side which won the World Cup in
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. Here's the weather.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: Gerald now weather brought you by You do It Kitchens.
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  Speaker 8: Good morning. It's a bleak into the week today with
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 8: a series of friends heading north over the country followed
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 8: by a very cold south westerly flow, so that means
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 8: heavy rain watches for the Rangers of Westland and headwaters
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 8: of Canterbury lakes and rivers till for this afternoon. There's
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 8: also road snowfall warnings for Milford Road till ten tonight
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 8: and the Crown Range Road till two tomorrow morning. So
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 8: plenty of rain here first up, but it does start
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 8: to ease from the south from late this morning, windsor gusty,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 8: but also easing tonight now. Canterbury including christ Church will
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 8: have rain developing from mid day. It'll be heavy and
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 8: thundery with hail till late this afternoon with gusty southwesterlies.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 8: It's pretty cloudy and showery over the lower North especially
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 8: from this afternoon. Will turn to rain tonight with strong
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 8: north or northwesters during the day. Looking good out east,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 8: just high cloud increasing throughout the day. A few showers
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 8: though Ford to and Pope Or with showers tonight for
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 8: Totonger and plenty of cloud around for the upper North
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 8: with the chants of showers from mid morning, it'll turn
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 8: to rain for Auckland tonight with westerlies.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: You're watching Harold now. I'm Michaelma. Great to have you
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: with us this morning. The Bonditerra attack has seen a
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: number of heroes celebrated for souflfe us acts of courage
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: and taking on two gunmen who killed fifteen civilians. One
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: of those heroes is Kiwi Man. I'mandeep Singh Boa from Papakuda,
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: who helped police restrain one of the gunmen. I'm on
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: deeper is with us now from Bondai. Hey, thank you
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: so much for being with us this morning. I'm Undeep.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: Can you just walk us through exactly what happened on
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: that day? What were you doing when you heard those gunshots?
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 30: Mordena, it's a bit early as excuse my croaky voice,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 30: and it's been a rough couple of days. But basically
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 30: what happened was is Christmas lunch and afterwards we headed
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 30: down to another bar near Bondai and everybody had left,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 30: and as you do, after a couple of drinks, I
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 30: got a Kebarbin and went down towards the beach and
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 30: thought I'd enjoy a nice view.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 26: And I was talking to al the guys.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 30: There were having a good conversation and that's when we
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 30: heard all these pops and you know, I was just like,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 30: oh no, it's just firecrackers. And then people started running
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 30: for their lives screaming. I never seen anything like that
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 30: in my life, so it was a bit. It was crazy,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 30: but I don't know, I didn't really think about it.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 30: I just ran straight towards the gunshots and I was
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 30: asking people along the way if they had seen or they.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 26: Know whereabouts they are or he is. One gentleman stopped
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 26: and he said he was near the bridge.
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  Speaker 30: I know the area quite well because I've been here
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 30: for almost seven years now and Bondo is a big
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 30: place that I've been to a lot.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 26: My whole time here in Australia.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 30: I call it my home as well, you know what
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 30: I mean, So I'm quite fortunate I know the area well.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 30: So I was hiding down a couple of walls and
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 30: behind a tree there until.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 26: I saw him. I saw him go down and.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: Stop you there at that point, because many people would
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: be hearing this and saying, you know, you heard the gunshots.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: Lots of people were running away, and we've seen that footage.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: What was it inside you? What was going through your
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: head that made you think I need to go towards
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: where the shots are coming from. I need to go
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: and help. Why did you do that?
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 26: I just seeing all these people running scared.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 30: Really, I think there's a lot of anger in me
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 30: because it's the same as New Zealand.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 26: You know, New Zealand's my home as well.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 30: It's like somebody coming there and knocking your door down
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 30: and basically firing upon your family or hurting people that
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 30: you love. So I was really angry, to be honest,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 30: and I didn't think about anything. I just ran straight
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 30: towards it because I just wanted to stop what was
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 30: going on. It's really hard to explain the words. Yeah,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 30: I'll have to excuse if I'm a bit muttery with
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 30: my words. It's been hard to sleep the last few days,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 30: but I just yeah, you know, New Zealand Australia very
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 30: similar in the same sense. I think Hue's and Aussies
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 30: have a mentality like no other. So I've just done
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 30: what I thought was right. So probably helped that word
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 30: at a Christmas party to us, I had a couple
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 30: of beers, so a bit of liquid courage.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 26: But I just for sure I got there a bit earlier,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 26: to be honest with you.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's like, it's just incredible. And we've got
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: some pictures that we're going to be showing up on screen.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: You probably want me to see these, but you can
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: see you in a white T shirt and you are
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: on top of one of the gunmen. Now, this person,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: as I understand it was, should sugged a clam. He
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: had been shot by police, and that's when you have
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: run in and secured him, Is that right?
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 12: Yeah?
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 26: Yeah, I was hiding there for a while and I.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 30: Saw him go down and that's when I ran up,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 30: and thank god there was cops that had rushed the
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 30: bridge as well.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 26: You know, the police officer was next to me. He's
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 26: an absolute legend.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 30: You know, these guys are copying and criticism on social
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 30: media or whatever, but new stuff.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 26: When I was policed, did such a good job.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 30: The first responders, the lifeguards that like, these guys are
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 30: the real hero, you know, the gentleman who took the
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 30: gun off him. I met a mad like I think
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 30: that's what really sums up not just spond I, but
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 30: Australia as a whole, is it is a multi cultural
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 30: place and every at the end of the day, everybody
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 30: wants to look after each other, and everyone just did
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 30: what they thought was right and it was afterwards. Was
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 30: probably the only thing that gave me a little bit
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 30: of comfort was the amount of people that came up
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 30: to me and asked me if I was okay, from
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 30: all different walks of life, you.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 26: Know what I mean.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 30: Like there's a couple of multi girls and older girls
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 30: that had seen the gunman get out of the car,
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 30: so I wanted to make sure they.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 26: Were okay, making sure I was okay.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 30: A young Frenchman came over and asked me if I
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 30: was okay, get me some coconut water, you know.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 26: And there was a couple of African guys up up
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 26: like down.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 30: Every reason I said where they're from is because that's
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 30: what bondo is. I don't want people to have any
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 30: hate or judgment towards each other. It's a time now
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 30: where I think we have to stand stronger than ever
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 30: together rather than be divided. But you know, once again,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 30: I don't look at myself as a hero. It's all
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 30: these innocent lives that got taken, you know. My heart
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 30: goes out to the families, the community, the Jewish community
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 30: that lost a lot of people that day.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 26: I have a lot of clients that I trained from
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 26: the Jewish community and the most lovely people in the world.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 30: And nobody deserves what happened. It was a very, very
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 30: tragic event, and a lot of my friends said I
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 30: was in the wrong place the wrong time, but actually
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 30: once in my life and felt like I was in
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 30: the right place at the right time.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's absolutely horrific, and of of course you were
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: in the right place and acted with absolute bravery. Can
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: I just ask when you were on the back of
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: the terrorist, so Gida Krahm, was he did or dying
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: or did you know what was happening at that point?
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: What was going through your mind at that point when
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: you were on his back.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 26: He was dying when I got on him.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 30: That's why, like I said the officer, I hope I
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 30: could shake the guy's hand, but he just told me
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 30: to stay calm in a midst of chaos, you know,
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 30: gave me the other handcuff to handcuff him, and he
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 30: just told me not to let go, because yeah, he
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 30: was still alive for a while there, and then yeah,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 30: you know, he passed away. I could see it in
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 30: his eyes. And they had to restrain a couple of
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 30: people and the other shooter was on the ground.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 26: He was still alive.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 30: So they had a lot on their plate too, So
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 30: I was just I was just glad that I could
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 30: do something to help.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: Them, Okay, And you know, on that on that bridge,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: what precisely did the police say to you when when
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: you were holding so g to cram down and he
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: was dying.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 26: It was just it was just the one young officer there.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 26: He just told me.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 30: He looked at me and he said just stay calm,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 30: stay calm, hold on to him.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 26: And you know, I was shouting.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 30: You might not see in the video, but I was
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 30: shouting that he's hit, and you know, I thought he
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 30: was dying, and he just told me to stay calm
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 30: and don't let go. I don't let go, don't let go,
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 30: don't let go. And until they had way more people
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 30: up there, I let go. I felt a bit sick,
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 30: and I'll be honest, I actually felt sick because I
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 30: just ate a whole cobarber and I sprinted towards this,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 30: so it wasn't anything to do with anything else, but
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 30: I just.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 26: Yeah, it was coming back up, so I had to.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 26: I had to lay it down afterwards for a bit.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's so intense. Could could you did? What
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: about the other shooter, who we know has now been
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: charged with fifteen counts of murder. What did What was
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: he saying at the time when police were cuffing him.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 26: Ah, I didn't say word. I'll be honest. There's everything
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 26: happens so quick.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 30: But one thing I'll never forget is, yeah, I could
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 30: see his eyes and you know, steering towards me.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 26: And obviously probably the other shooter.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 30: And you know, I don't want to make it too graphics,
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 30: but I was getting his head pretty much stomped. And
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 30: that's they had to restrain somebody that kept coming up
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 30: who was full of anger.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 26: And I don't blame him. I'll call that guy hero
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 26: as well.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 30: And yeah, he he was he wasn't.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 26: He wasn't, he wasn't. Well, I can say that much.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 30: But like I said, the New South Wales police did
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 30: such a good job in controlling the situation. At the
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 30: end of the day, we're all human, you know what
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 30: I mean, No matter what you train for or or
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 30: what people are going to criticize you for. I think
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 30: they responded so well. And the coping criticis I don't
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 30: know why. And again, the lifeguards amazing. They helped all
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 30: these people that were injured. You know, you see a
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 30: guy running with a dfive and bare feet. If that
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 30: isn't some of Australian New Zealand, I don't.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 26: Know what does.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 30: Yeah, so I just have to say thank you to
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 30: them again. Like I said, I really just wanted to
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 30: come on here and and thank all those people. I
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 30: don't see myself as a hero. I just did what
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 30: I thought was right. But those people that other heroes.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 30: There's a there's a young officer that is in critical condition,
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 30: and you know, I wish him and his family the best.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 30: These are the people that we should really, you know,
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 30: be portraying as the heroes.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 26: But it's just a crazy day. I don't I don't know.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 26: I don't wish to ever see anything like that again.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: I mean it, it is absolutely crazy. And the very
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: fact that you single handedly assisted police and on the
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: back of one of these people who senselessly took so
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: many lives. I mean it must be intense. I mean,
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: how are you personally coping at the moment. I'm undep
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: and well, you know the weekend's coming ahead. What are
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: you going to try and what are you going to
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: be doing over the weekend.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 26: I'll be honest with you, I haven't been into the gym.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 30: I went in for a couple of days because I
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 30: know it's going to help, but I haven't been sleeping well.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 30: So my partner and I always listened to my mom.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 30: Whatever my mom says, I did, so I went to
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 30: the doctors and booked in some counseling sessions. I probably
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 30: think it's a good thing. I've never experienced something like
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 30: this in my life before, so I know how important
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 30: it's going.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 26: To be to make sure I speak to the right
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 26: people about it.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 30: And I recommend that to everybody that was there that
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 30: day and had to go through some traumas. It's going
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 30: to speak to somebody there's you know, Australia is amazing.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 26: It's just like New Zealand.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 30: At the end of the day, there are there are neighbors,
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 30: there are there are brothers, there are sisters.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 26: And they've got lots of.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 30: Lots of like options for you to speak to people
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 30: for free if you need to, so I highly recommend that,
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 30: especially for all the families, and you know, even even
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 30: I have to make a specific shout out to the.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 26: The two heroes that try to stop him straight away.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 30: I think his name was Boris and his wife Sophia,
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 30: the elderly people that tried to take the gun off them,
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 30: and unfortunately on here with us today. These type of
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 30: people are the ones that we should be you know,
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 30: talking about and celebrating and making sure they they get
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 30: the credit they deserve.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 26: But yeah, as for me, I just need to get
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 26: some sleep. I'll be honest.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 30: I just wanted to do this interview today and and
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 30: and just make sure everybody is okay and understand that
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 30: the world's full of hate right now and we can't
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 30: fight hate with hate.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 26: We just got to love each other.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 30: And I hug our family and tell everybody that we
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 30: love them, because we're not going to move forward if
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 30: we keep doing this, and we're going to stay united.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: I'm Undee sing By. We really appreciate you coming on
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: the show this morning and healed. Now. There is a
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: lot of people in New Zealand who admire your actions.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: Even though you've said to have of course that you
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: were not a hero, you certainly acted with courage and
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: bravery on that day, so should be very proud of yourself.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: I hope you get some sleep over the next few days.
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  Speaker 1: You're back with Herald. Now it's time for the latest
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  Speaker 1: from The Herald's Media insider column and editor at large
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  Speaker 1: Shane Curry, and we start the week with John Campbell's
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: return to aren Z. Here. What do you make of us,
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: Marie Michael?
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  Speaker 27: Yeah, Big News announced yesterday quite a bit of a
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 27: rushed announcement, actually partly because there had been, as I
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 27: report in the media inside a column today, some discussions
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 27: at rn ZAR bard level just about the appointment.
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  Speaker 1: So John Campbell's returns to arn ZED.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 27: He will be the Morning Report co host based in
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 27: Auckland sometime next year. They haven't announced a start date yet.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 27: Now the discussions at board level are interesting. The board
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 27: doesn't have the ultimate sale on who becomes the Morning
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 27: Report co host or any of those other talent roles,
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 27: but it certainly can have an influence and it certainly is.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 27: My sources have told me this Morning has had strong
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 27: words to management just to make sure that the process
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 27: is robust, that John is the right person for the job.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 27: And that's based on some concerns at board level just
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 27: about some of his previous comments and opinions that have
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 27: been expressed in his columns, for instance at TVNZ.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: At the moments.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 27: Politics specifically, and of course as we head into election year,
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 27: arn ZED is the public broadcaster needs to ensure that
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 27: its hosts, it's journalists, like all of us, are presenting
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 27: news in affair and balanced way.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: But I mean overall, I mean landing JC for the
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: flagship Morning Report show, I mean it's a bit of
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: a courz.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 30: Yeah.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: And he's very popular, very popular, yeah.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 27: And he's actually I spoke to a couple of TV
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 27: andsed sources yesterday and they talked to me about just
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 27: his manner around the TV newsroom and the morale that
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 27: he does lift in that environment. He is like a
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 27: lot of broadcasters in that radio space. I've cited him
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 27: and Mike Hosking today. The popular ones are actually very polarizing.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 27: Your love or you hate them that and that is
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 27: actually quite important. You know, you draw a loyal audience,
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 27: but you're also spark debate and certainly both Hosking and
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 27: Campbell fit into those categories.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: And you've been at court this week with another TV
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: and Z defamation. Yeah, it's not that this is not
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: the Talies versus Thomas. No. No. TV has had a
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: big year in the courts.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 27: They had a great win in the Tally's case on
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 27: Wednesday that came through. But for the last four days
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 27: I've actually been in the Auckland District Court for a
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 27: defamation case brought against them by Julian Bachelor, who's the
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 27: anti co governance campaigner. And it stems from a pamphlet
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 27: that Bachelor distributed back in twenty twenty three and a
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 27: story that TVNZ had written from that, it was a
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 27: quite crazy, wild court case at times civil court case.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 27: It's been funded by MDME shareholder and director Jim Greennan.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 27: Julian Bachelor has got his financial support, so that's an
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 27: interesting angle it emerged in court, But we also had
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 27: some very interesting witnesses, including former tvn Z host Peter Williams,
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 27: who actually appeared as an expert witness on behalf of
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 27: Bachelor to talk about the process of journalism and how
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 27: stories get to come on to air and just the
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 27: process to interviewing subjects.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: Well, it's been another pretty big year in the media industry. Overall.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: Your highs and lows for tween twenty five.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 27: Well, it certainly hasn't quietened down this week, Michael I
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 27: and I before coming on here today, I just went
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 27: through maybe my top five stories locally obviously internationally, it's
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 27: been a huge year for media as well. But topping
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 27: the list for me this year local in the local
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 27: environment was Sky Television's purchase of three you.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: Know, it was for one dollar.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 27: It was a debt free deal and I see amazing
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 27: things happening next year with that merged company. Second of all,
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 27: the ended ME boardroom coup or leadership change, if you like,
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 27: led by Jim Greennan who we mentioned earlier, along with
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 27: a couple of other active as shareholders. But that really
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 27: did take up a lot of column inches and space
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 27: in the media kind of world earlier in the year.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 27: That's calmed down a lot now and you know we're
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 27: here today on a new product, a new platform that
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 27: launched not so long ago. So Herold now is really
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 27: a sign of just for all the media companies. I
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 27: guess where convergences is happening a couple of other big
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 27: ones over the course of the year. Of course, there's
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 27: a big battle coming in terms of Sean Plunkett's battle
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 27: with the Broadcasting Standards Authority and whether it has jurisdiction
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 27: over his online channel. And the advertising agencies are in
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 27: for a very interesting consolidation period. I think we've seen
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 27: the global holding companies come together in the last few months.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 27: Has unfortunately been some layoffs in that area, but I
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 27: think in twenty twenty six we'll see the rise of
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 27: the independent agencies a lot more spectacularly.
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  Speaker 1: Lot more to come on, Matt. We really appreciate your
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: time and analysis, and of course you can go and
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: read Shane's Colin this morning inside Held dot co dot Nz.
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  Speaker 1: That is Shane Curry, Herald Editor at Large. Thank you
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: very much for your time. Now it's time to talk
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: the big issues of the day. And joining me for
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: our final panel of the year is Phil Goff, former
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: Auckland mayor and former Labor Party leader, and Debra Peed
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: from PPR. Hey, great to have you both with us
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: this morning. Look at that quick change around you have
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: fell just first up Gloria Vale. It's pulling the pin
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: on Gloriavale's school. Is this the beginning in the end
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  Speaker 1: for this commune do you think?
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  Speaker 31: Well, I hope it's the beginning of a new life
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 31: for those kids, because they are being taught kindly, you'd say,
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 31: in a very traditional way.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: Actually it's Victorian England.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 31: They're training the girls to do domestic work on the
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 31: commune so that they have no chance of a life
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 31: outside the commune they regarded as not being a safe environment.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 31: The leader of the commune, of course, convicted on ten
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 31: counts of a decent assault and other things. So yes,
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  Speaker 31: they need a chance to get an education to give
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 31: them more choice in life outside of that commune.
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  Speaker 1: But they need help with the transition to do so. Yeah, dear,
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: where do you sit on this one? I mean, obviously
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: Gloria Vale has already come out and said, hey, look
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: we're going to challenge this. The Ministry of Education is
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: being unjust where do you think most New Zealanders viewers
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: of this.
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  Speaker 32: Look, everything that we've heard about Gloria Vale to now
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 32: is a canary in.
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  Speaker 26: The gold mine.
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  Speaker 13: This is a screeching parrot.
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  Speaker 32: I mean, the New Zealand has a duty of care
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  Speaker 32: to those children. It should be shut down. It's an
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 32: isolated community. We've heard as phyllis just reminded us of
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 32: layer after layer of systemic failure coming out of there,
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 32: and it should be shut down the whole place.
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  Speaker 1: Does it surprise you, then, deed, that it has taken
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  Speaker 1: this much time? I mean, we know that there was
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: these critical education review of US reviews and twenty twenty
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: three and twenty twenty one, but surely prior to this,
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: in the decades leading up to this, education officials must
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: have known that there were problems.
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  Speaker 32: I agree, and I'm surprised that it has taken this long.
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  Speaker 32: But those children have a right to safe education and
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 32: aliberated education are not squirreled away in an isolated community
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 32: and everything we've heard about them is unhealthy and so
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 32: this needs to end now.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: Fell just on some health New Zealand Simeon Brown needs
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: to find well. Says he wants to find another half
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: a billion dollars in savings. But I mean, this is
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: a sector that year after year struggles. How is the
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: government going to claw back that money will make addiciencies.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 31: It's really hard because we're moving from a situation where
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 31: one in four New Zealanders are retired to.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: One where two and four will be retired.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 13: That means more.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 31: Health costs as well as super costs. You've got a
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 31: look for proper efficiencies. But I'm really distrustful when people
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 31: say we're going to clean out the back office, because
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 31: that means that people on the front line will now
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 31: be doing the back office work, which is not a
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 31: great use of their time. They haven't specified where they're
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 31: finding the money they need to do.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, I mean there's this problematic do you think
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: deb for you know, attracting doctors and nurses to New Zealand,
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: which is what we need because we know at the
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: moment heaps are leaving.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 32: We've got a shortage of great medical skills. We know
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 32: we're losing them, and cost cutting is not a great
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 32: recruitment message when we're trying to attract them. Here and
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 32: you know, here's the thing. I mean, I know a
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 32: lot of people in the healthcare system. Their key driver
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 32: isn't financial rewards. They want good working conditions. They want
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 32: places where they can practice modern medicine. And when you
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 32: strip start saying efficiencies, I mean, five hundred million sounds
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 32: great on a balance sheet, but health isn't a factory line.
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 13: You can't make.
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 32: Those type efficiencies without fear the spit off and domino
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 32: effects somewhere else.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a really salient point. I just want to
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: touch on the way he gold mine. Obviously he's got
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: this first fast track approval to do some development there.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: Phil how do you sort of weigh up the economic
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: gains versus the environmental protections. Well, that's the challenge.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 13: Broadly.
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  Speaker 31: I'm in favor of doing things more quickly. You can't
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 31: take years and years and years to do something if
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 31: you can do it more quickly and efficiently. But you've
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 31: got to balance up what the return of that gold
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 31: mine is in terms of royalties and taxes et cetera
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 31: to the Horeki community and New Zealand generally with environmental damage. Now,
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 31: you've got extremists at either end of it, and I
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 31: don't sit on either extreme. But what I'm really skeptical
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 31: about is sometimes, and I've seen it in the past
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 31: when I was Minister for the Environment, you close up
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 31: a gold mine, there's a tailings problem and the tax
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 31: the cost falls on the taxpayer rather than the people
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 31: who made the money.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: Out of it.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 31: So I hope that in doing it more quickly, they
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 31: have not overlooked critical things that are needed to protect
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 31: the really important things now in our environment and to
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 31: protect the taxpayer about picking up the costs when the
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 31: operation finally closes.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: Deborah, I mean Shane Jones and New Zealand First is
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: behind this very fast track legislation. Drill Baby drill is
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: what he says as this dangerous look.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 32: I'm all in favor of liberating the wealth from the land,
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 32: and when the economic impact it will make is you know,
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 32: they've done the numbers on it. It's going to be
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 32: significant to New Zealand. It's one of the reasons that
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 32: Australia's infrastructure is so strong and so solid. Is we
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 32: need to be able to compete better in that space,
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 32: but not at the cost of the environment. So those
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 32: conditions are there that protects the environment and make sure
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 32: that the mining companies not only remediate the land, but
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 32: leave it better than when they found it at their expense,
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 32: not taxpayers expense. Then I think we can reach a
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 32: happy medium. So yeah, I'm all in favor of Shane
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 32: Jones drilling.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: O enough, you're enough, just quickly before we go, Guys,
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: our Christmas traditions fell is anything you and your family
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: like to do or something you just really ignore and
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: stay away from.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 31: Well, it's good to get the family together. We're still
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 31: living in the same home that the kids were all
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 31: brought up, and you know, we've been there thirty three
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 31: years and so having them back and having the grandkids
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 31: here as well is really lovely. We don't do presents
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 31: for the adults now it's all secret Center, which is
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 31: quite quite good fun, you know, But we do for
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 31: the grandkids.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: The old secret sander, just to cut down and costs
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: of it.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 31: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And we have a lot of fun
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 31: because you get you know, somebody gets a choice and
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 31: then somebody else takes it off.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 13: Them and that creates a.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: Bit of humor in the atmosphere as well.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 31: We're hoping for a good day so we can have
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 31: a bit of outdoor life and the barbecue.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah nice and Debra, what about what about you? What's
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: going to be on the table Christmas? Duff?
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 13: Everything?
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, we always always were always.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 32: Even though we say let's go like this year, never do.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: Why is it that about Christmas? Every time off the last.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 32: And of course and everything wants to be the hero,
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 32: the turkey, the ham, the beef. You know, everything's competing.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 32: But this year I'm seeing it through the eyes of
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 32: my grandson Henry, who's four years old, and he's running
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 32: around right now wishing everyone Merry Christmas, Nandy in the
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 32: Christmas post.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 3: He is so super excited.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 32: And I must say it's going to be a lot
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 32: of fun this year with that four.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: Year old in the house. Oh absolutely, guys. We'll have
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: a look have a wonderful Christmas in summer break And
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: we really appreciate you guys coming into here now this
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: morning and being with us throughout the year for your insights.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: And then fell Goth and Deborah p thanks very much
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: for your time. Well it is eight thirty six am
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: and let's go to Wendy with the news.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: You're old now news Howard buying news talk.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 3: Z'd be more hope in the economy After a higher
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 3: than expected rise in GDP later stats, ND said data
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 3: shows the economy has grown one point one percent in
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 3: the September quarter, surpassing expectations. Strong growth is also expected
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 3: in the December quarter. Mark knoff Thomas, the chief executive
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 3: of Auckland's Newmarket Business Association, says having the country officially
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 3: back and growth should make everyone more optimistic.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 4: The GDP announcement is going to further add to the
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 4: confidence and I think we can all look forward to
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 4: some positive growth and a bit more heaviness in the country.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 3: It's not The closure of Gloria Vale School is more
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 3: complicated than just finding a new school. The Secretary of
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 3: Education has canceled the Christian Sex school license, forcing it
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 3: closed from January. It's been on notice for several weeks
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 3: after failing another audit and being ruled physically and mentally
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 3: unsafe as students. Education researcher Liz Gordon says it's not
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 3: as straightforward as moving the students elsewhere.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 5: The Ministry should in the interim negotiate to put in
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 5: a number of professional teachers, bring them to the community
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 5: and have the kids taught dead.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 3: Poor interagency communications and a disability support group's lack of
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 3: urgency are being highlighted after a five year old's death.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 3: Kaiser Delacroix drowned in a pond behind his family home
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 3: on the Gisbon Farm in August last year. The young
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 3: boy was diagnosed autistic and nonverbal and was known to
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 3: go exploring, Emily Ansel reports.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 6: Coroner Menaldougal's report states his mother had raised concerns about
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 6: his climbing ability with support group kaide or Her, requesting locks.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 6: Coroner Dougals found this wasn't promptly addressed. Kyde or Her
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 6: accepts the findings but says it's not a systematical training
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 6: issue and they've now strengthened policies.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 3: A change in dynamic for the ASB Classic Tennis tournament
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 3: as its home gets some upgrades. Auckland Council secured a
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 3: fifteen million dollar revamp of Manuka Doctor Arena, including five
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 3: million dollars for a new roof. Tennis Auckland CEO Rowan
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 3: West says up until now venues in Brisbane, Sydney and
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 3: Perth have better options for players as they all have roofs.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 7: With Auckland, your rolling the dice because the players do
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 7: know that it can be a bit rainy, can be
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 7: a bit windy.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 3: Auckland's in store for a new cemetery to the northwest.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 3: The councilors agreed to buy six point five hectares of
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 3: land next to an existing private cemetery in Cumu. Early
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 3: this year, our newsroom revealed to Waikumeti Cemetery, Auckland's largest,
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 3: had run out of space and stopped burials. In mid
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. Auckland Council says every year it carries
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 3: out fifteen hundred burials, one thousand ash burials and almost
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 3: two and a half thousand cremations.
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  Speaker 13: Good morning.
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  Speaker 8: It's a bleak into the week today with a series
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 8: of fronts heading north over the country, followed by a
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 8: very cold southwesterly flow. So that means heavy rain watches
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 8: for the Ranges of Westland and headwaters of the Canterbury
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 8: Lakes and rivers till for this afternoon. There's also road
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 8: snowfall warnings for Milford Road till ten tonight and the
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 8: Crown Range Road till two tomorrow morning. So plenty of
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 8: rain here first up, but it does start to ease
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 8: from the south from late this morning, windsor gusty, but
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 8: also easing tonight.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 8: Canterbury including christ Church will have rain developing from mid day.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 8: It'll be heavy and thundery with hail till late this afternoon,
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 8: with gusty southwesterlies. It's pretty cloudy and showery over the
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  Speaker 8: lower North especially from this afternoon. Will turn to rain
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 8: tonight with strong north or northwesters during the day. Looking
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 8: good out east, just high cloud increasing throughout the day.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 8: A few showers though Ford to and Popewoor with showers
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 8: tonight for Totonger amplelenty of cloud around for the upper
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 8: North with the chants of showers from mid morning. It'll
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 8: turn to rain for Auckland tonight with west delaise.
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  Speaker 1: You're watching Herold now. Pine trees and deer might be
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: signs of festive joy for many Kiwis, but for farmers
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: they represent cost, destruction and heartache. Federated Farmers has launched
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: a new campaign, the Twelve Pests of Christmas, to highlight
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: the most troublesome farm.
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 19: Pests Christmas twelve and.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: Three, Wild, two and Bush. I love it well. I'm
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: joined now by Federated Farmers Meet and World chairman Richard Dawkins,
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: who as well as help as Ali, who's seven and rosy.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: Morning guys. How are you doing morning?
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  Speaker 12: Michael? How are you?
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Very good, I'm Richard. So tell us about the
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: Twelve Pests of Christmas campaign. What are you hoping people
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: will take from it?
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 9: Yeah?
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 33: Look, this is a bit of a lart, lighthearted take
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 33: on what is a serious issue.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: Michael.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 33: So, we do have a billboard just down from the
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 33: Beehive Soldiers front of mind for politicians heading into the
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 33: Christmas period, and we've had a recent survey showed over
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 33: two hundred million dollars worth of damage was being done
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 33: annually to farms. So we're just calling for a more
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 33: coordinated approach and more focus in this area.
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and where should that focus come from? I mean,
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: obviously it's good to highlight the issues that farmers are
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: facing for ordinary New Zealanders. But is this a government
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: issue that needs to be tackled.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 33: Our look, in part it is, Michael like when you
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 33: look at the wild and pine issue, a lot of
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 33: it was planted by the Crown and it has subsequently spread.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 33: But across the border, it's also up to each landowner,
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 33: each manager of the land. And a primary issue is
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 33: landowners have different priorities. You have private hunting blocks, you
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 33: have farmers, you have foresters, you have the Department of
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 33: Conservation as well. So yeah, more funding from the government
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 33: is one thing, but also more coordination, more coordination across
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 33: those landowners.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, and you know a farm is going to be
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: getting a bit of a break this Christmas, so I mean,
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: I suspect not. It's still all on right.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 33: Yes, there's always something to do on farm. But fortunately
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 33: you know over the Christmas period, schools just finished and
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 33: farmers across the country have little helpers like this, so
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 33: it is a very busy time. We're still sharing and
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 33: doing various animal health treatments. If it gets dry, you know,
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 33: the animals still need their Christmas dinner as well, so
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 33: plenty of feeding out. But again it's a pretty joy
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 33: all time with kids helping.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: Out as well, totally, Alie and Rosie. If you can
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: hear me here, it's Michael Morris speaking. Can you just
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: tell me how do you help dad on the farm?
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: And are you doing anything special for the animals this Christmas?
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 33: We've been share they are a big help in the
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 33: sharing shed.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: Definitely, that sounds amazing. And what do you do after
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: the sharing's all done? Are you chucking the water around
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: at each other and rolling around in that or do
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: you stay away from it?
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 33: Dad may have launched you into a big pile of willne.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 33: Lots of fun, Michael, and it is a great family time,
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 33: but plenty of work.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 12: To do as well.
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: Hey, just before we go, one other serious notes and
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: this is interested interesting, but what do you say to
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: Kiwi's going to the supermarket over the holiday period, because
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: it's my understanding that at this time of year there
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: can be a lot of imported meats that are you know,
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: in poor quality meat that's flooded into soupermarkets. Why does
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: this happen around this time and what do you say
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: to consumers out there?
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 33: Look, i'd really encourage consumers to support local support key
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 33: we progress. We do farm too higher animal welfare standards
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 33: and it is a natural outdoor regenerative system. You know,
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 33: other countries around the world would like to replicate what
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 33: we do, but they farm indoors and it is a
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 33: very low cost model. Therefore they undercut our product.
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: So yes, support local where you can. Okay, Well, look,
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  Speaker 1: we really appreciate your time this morning. Richard's and of
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: course Allie and Rosie, thank you very much for being
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: on hereld now this morning. That, of course is Federated Farmers,
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: Meat and Will Chairman Richard Dawkin's. Happy Christmas to you
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back. It's time to talk business one more time
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: for twenty twenty five thanks to our partners two degrees.
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: Garth Bray from Business Desk is here with his hits
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: and misses for twenty twenty five, wrapping up the year.
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: Biggest deal for you.
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 23: Well, I got a good close look at Fonterra's mainland deal,
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 23: the investment of those brands, and you've got to say,
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 23: probably when they count the Ledger this year, that's going
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 23: to stand as an absolute standout, like a four point
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 23: two billion dollar deal. Quite contentious as well, because totally
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 23: it's about brands that have been live in this country
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 23: for over one hundred years and getting up meeting some
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 23: of the farmers that involved and building those getting out
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 23: and talking to the people that are trying to do
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 23: the deal was a real highlight watching that sort of
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 23: all play out. It's obviously it's a big part of
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 23: our economy, but I mean just a massive undertaking seventy
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 23: seven million I think they spent just on costs trying
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 23: to get the deal together, an obviously pretty deliberate campaign
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 23: of trying to sort of work with all of their
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 23: shearholder farmers to try and make it happen, and probably
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 23: it took more than a year to get it there
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 23: because they needed to have the confidence and the support
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 23: from those people to make it happen. And that's one
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 23: that will still play it. And obviously you know, it's
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 23: about butter, it's about cheese. It's about stuff that we
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 23: all know about in touch and see and taste and
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 23: probably eat too.
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 13: Much of this Christmas. So for me, that was a
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 13: pretty big standout.
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely huge deal. So who could be doing better?
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 23: Well, look, I could say the Reserve Bank, because it
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 23: felt like they kind of just went to sleep a
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 23: bit at the start of the year or mid first
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 23: quarter and then we kind of all collapse.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 13: But I guess we could all take a bit of
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 13: blame there.
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 23: I mean, it felt like I've said, like New Zealand's
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 23: economy spent a fair bit of this year on the
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 23: couch and a lot of people just kind of all
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 23: waiting for something to happen, waiting for the confidence to
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 23: take a step, waiting for businesses to try, waiting for someone.
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 13: Else to do something.
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 23: And it kind of feels like maybe we've got a
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 23: little bit of momentum coming through now to suggest, look.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 13: Just get on and do it.
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 23: And maybe it's just the chance I've had this year
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 23: to meet so many founders of businesses, startups and people
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 23: don't do stuff and see that quite often You've you've
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 23: got to pay attention to the news around you, like
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 23: we hope people do, but you kind of also have
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 23: to chart your own course a little bit and just
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 23: sort of work really hard at the stuff you can control.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. I mean, so what about a company that's
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: one to watch. That's sort of making it pretty excited.
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: I mean there's many, right, yeah.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 23: Look, obviously we try to cover the range here in
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 23: the mornings, and you look overseas, you look locally, you
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 23: can't go past all the news. It's just started to
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 23: bubble out of companies like SpaceX, Open Ai and Anthropic
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 23: about possible IPOs, you know, listings in the new year.
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 23: At some point. I mean if that SpaceX, if that
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 23: list will probably be the biggest IPO and history kind
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 23: of thing with one point five trillion dollar valuation. But
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 23: what that could do, people say, is it just basically
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 23: gives other people the idea, oh okay, all these companies
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 23: that have been held privately that one's i think been
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 23: twenty three years or something sort of tied up with
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 23: Elon Muskiners investors, it gets out there if it's traded
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 23: as on the stock exchange, that might encourage others to
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 23: do that, and then they'll free up a whole lot
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 23: of private capital and you could see quite a lot
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 23: more of that happen. And of course it's space which
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 23: is not Ai, which we're worrying at the moment, or
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 23: is it a bit froth there. We're going to knock
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 23: the top off that anytime Soon's it's a whole different
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 23: sort of place to put your money and see what's
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 23: going to happen. And it's an area where New Zealand
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 23: has done amazing things, largely due to Peter Beck and his.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 13: Team from Rocket, who I think is the local one
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 13: to watch.
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 23: They've got their Neutron rocket, which is the heavier lift
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 23: capacity that they're hoping to get off the ground next year.
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 23: That'll be a huge event if that happens. And this
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 23: is just crazy. This is a company that almost didn't
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 23: exist like twenty years ago, and by the end of
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 23: the year we'll have twenty percent.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 13: Of the hardware that's orbiting Mars is made by it.
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: That it's amazing.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 23: It's like a great story for anyone who thinks he
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 23: can build stuff and make it happen.
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, no, very impressive from Peter Beck and his team.
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 1: So what about some personal highlights. I mean, you know,
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: you've been all over the devail collapse in the case
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: and yeah sure, and filming and interviews and done some
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: brilliant work on that, thank you. Would that be a
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 1: big one?
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 13: I think that just shows the first, right, because that's
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 13: that's the.
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 23: Story that's played out for more than a year and
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 23: something that where people have really really paid attention to
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 23: what we've been able to do here, which is to
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 23: sort of add some value to the amazing business jam
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 23: that's already happening in this place and give people a
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 23: bit of an understanding about a pretty complex issue. And
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 23: I think that's that's kind of the secret source of
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 23: special source. It's been a bit of a highlight for me,
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 23: probably hanging on to a one point four million dollar
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 23: lump of gold and silver.
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: It wasn't too bad either, Oh yes, I saw that.
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 23: Didn't get to keep any of that, though, Oh I've
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 23: got a bit of coal. I think I brought back
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 23: country not quite the same, not quite the same, and
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 23: probably a bit trickier standing on a massive pile of coal,
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 23: but just the ability to get.
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 13: Out and meet people.
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 23: But then really the opportunity, I think to come in
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 23: here every morning and share that with people and know
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 23: that there's a thirst out there. I think one of
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 23: the top ten how do I that were googled this
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 23: year by New Zealander New Zealanders was how do I.
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 13: Invest in shares? Which shows that there's a lot of work.
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: To do, absolutely a lot of work. But you know,
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: your insights and intellect and assessment is key and we
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 1: really appreciate it day after day. It does the eyes
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 1: here well, it is it is really important to helping
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: us understand exactly what's going on. She t I'm Garth
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: on the show today and every single day that Herald
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: now has been on a SR. Garth Bray from Business
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: desk thanks to our partner's two degrees. Merry Christmas to you. Well.
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: The Bondi Tea attack has seen a number of heroes
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: celebrated for selfless acts of courage and taking on two
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: gunmen who killed fifteen civilians. One of those heroes is
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 1: Kiwi Man Armandeep Singh Bola from Papakuta, who helped police
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: restrain one of the gunmen. I spoke to Amundi earlier
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: on the show and I started by asking him what
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: he was doing when he heard those gunshots.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 26: You know, it's a bit early.
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 30: Yes, excuse my croaky voice. It's it's been a rough
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 30: couple of days. But basically what happened was is Christmas
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 30: lunch and afterwards we headed down to another bar near
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 30: Bondi and everybody had left, and as you do, after
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 30: a couple of drinks, I got a kebab and went
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 30: down towards the beach and thought I would enjoy a
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 30: nice view.
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 26: And I was talking to a couple of guys there.
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 26: We having a good.
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 30: Conversation and that's when we heard all these pops and
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 30: you know, I was just like, oh no, it's just firecrackers.
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 26: And then people started.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 30: Running for their lives screaming. I never seen anything like
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 30: that in my life, so it was a bit. It
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 30: was crazy, but I don't know, I didn't really think
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 30: about it. I just ran straight towards the gunshots and
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 30: I was asking people along the way if they had
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 30: seen or they know whereabouts they are or he is.
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 30: One gentleman stopped and he said he was near the bridge.
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 30: I know the area quite well because I've been there
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 30: for almost seven years now and Bondo is a big
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 30: place that I've been to a lot.
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 26: My whole time here in Australia.
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 30: I call it my home as well, you know what
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 30: I mean, So I'm quite fortunate I know the area well.
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 30: So I was hiding down a couple of walls and
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 30: behind a tree there until I saw them, saw them go.
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: Down and stop you there at that point, because many
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: people would be hearing this and saying, you know, you
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 1: heard the gunshots. Lots of people were running away and
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: we've seen that footage. What was it inside you? What
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: was going through your head that made you think I
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 1: need to go towards where the shots are coming from.
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: I need to go and help. Why did you do that?
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 26: I just see all these people running scared.
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 30: Really, I think there's a lot of anger in me
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 30: because it's the same as New Zealand.
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 26: You know, in New Zealand's my home as well.
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 30: It's like somebody coming there knocking your door down and
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 30: basically firing upon your family or hurting people that you love.
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 30: So I was really angry, to be honest, and I
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 30: didn't think about anything. I just ran straight towards it
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 30: because I just wanted to stop.
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 26: What was going on. As it's really hard to explain
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 26: the words.
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 30: Yeah, I'll have to excuse if if I'm a bit
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 30: muttery with my words. It's been hard to sleep the
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 30: last few days, but I just yeah, you know, New
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 30: Zealand in Australia very similar in the same sense. I
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 30: think Huie's and Aussies have a have a mentality.
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: Like no other.
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 26: So I've done what I thought was right, So.
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 30: Probably helped that word at a Christmas party to us,
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 30: I had a couple of beers, so a bit of
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 30: liquid courage. But I just for sure I got there
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 30: a bit earlier, to be honest with you.
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's like, it's just incredible, and we've got
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 1: some pictures that we're going to be showing up on screen.
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 1: You probably want me to see these, but you can
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: see you in a white T shirt and you are
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: on top of one of the gunmen. Now, this person,
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 1: as I understand it was, should sugged a clumb. He
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 1: had been shot by police, and that's when you have
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 1: run in and secured him. Is that right?
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 26: Yeah?
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 30: Yeah, I I was hiding there for a while and
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 30: I saw him go down and that's when I ran up,
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 30: and thank god there was cops that had rushed the
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 30: bridge as well. You know, the police officer was next
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 30: to me. He's an absolute legend. You know, these guys
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 30: are copying some criticism on social media or whatever.
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 26: But new stuff. When I was policed, did such a
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 26: good job.
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 30: The first responders, the lifeguards that like, these guys are
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 30: the real hero, you know, the gentleman who took the
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 30: gun off him, I met a mad like.
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 26: I think that's what really sums up not.
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 30: Just bond I, but Australia as a whole is it
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 30: is a multi cultural place and at the end of
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 30: the day, everybody wants.
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 26: To look after each other.
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 30: And everyone just did what they thought was right and
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 30: it was afterwards. Was probably the only thing that gave
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 30: me a little bit of comfort was the amount of
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 30: people that came up to me and asked me if
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 30: I was okay.
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 26: From all different walks of you, you know what I mean.
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 30: Like there was a couple of multi girls and older
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 30: girls that had seen the gunman get out of the car,
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 30: so I wanted to make sure they.
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 26: Were okay, making sure I was okay.
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 30: A young french Man came over and asked me if
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 30: I was okay, getting me some coconut water, you know.
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 30: And there was a couple of African guys up up down.
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 30: Every reason I said where they're from is because that's
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 30: what Bondo is. I don't want people to have any
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  Speaker 30: hate or judgment towards each other. It's a time now
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  Speaker 30: where I think we have to stand stronger than ever
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  Speaker 30: together rather than be divided. But you know, once again,
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  Speaker 30: I don't look at myself as a hero. It's all
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  Speaker 30: these innocent lives that got taken.
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  Speaker 11: You know.
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  Speaker 30: My heart goes out to the families, the community of
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  Speaker 30: the Jewish community.
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  Speaker 26: That lost a lot of people that day.
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  Speaker 30: I have a lot of clients that I trained from
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  Speaker 30: the Jewish community and the most lovely people in the world.
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  Speaker 30: Nobody deserves what happened. It was a very very tragic event,
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  Speaker 30: and a lot of my friends said the wrong place
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  Speaker 30: at the wrong time. But actually, once in my life,
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  Speaker 30: I felt like I was in the right place at
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  Speaker 30: the right time.
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  Speaker 1: That was a'm Undeep Singh baller. Well, not every kid
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  Speaker 1: gets to wake up with food on the table let
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  Speaker 1: alone presents on Christmas Day. That's where the Christmas Joy
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  Speaker 1: Store comes in, providing not only gifts to those in need,
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  Speaker 1: but the dignity of choice. Last year, more than three thousand,
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  Speaker 1: two hundred families were supported, with almost twelve thousand children
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  Speaker 1: gifted presents that they otherwise would have missed out on.
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  Speaker 1: This afternoon marks the last day of donations. Our reporter
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  Speaker 1: Katie Oliver is down there. So Katie, how they got
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  Speaker 1: on this year?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, goody, Mike.
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  Speaker 34: Look I'm down here with the Kindness Collective. Sarah Page. Now,
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  Speaker 34: Sarah tell us, how have you gone this year?
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  Speaker 1: How many referrals do you have for your order?
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  Speaker 35: We've had an incredibly busy Christmas season, sadly of visit
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  Speaker 35: for Christmas Casar. So far, we've had about eight pay
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  Speaker 35: a half thousand applications to visit the Voice store, and
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  Speaker 35: we've had three and a half thousand families through over
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  Speaker 35: a period of four weeks.
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  Speaker 34: So I guess you must have thousands of people through
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  Speaker 34: the door. As you say, have any stories stuck with you?
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  Speaker 35: We read the stories and we meet these beautiful people
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  Speaker 35: coming in. They're hard working families. They are, you know,
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  Speaker 35: doing everything that they can to put food on the table,
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  Speaker 35: to provide their kids with everything that they need. But
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  Speaker 35: through you know, the cost of living crisis and all
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  Speaker 35: these different things that are happening in their lives. That's
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  Speaker 35: you've been finding it hard to put food on the
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  Speaker 35: table and struggling to make intimation. And so we meet
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  Speaker 35: these beautiful people that are coming through, and everyone's story
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  Speaker 35: is a story of resilience, of bravery of hard working
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  Speaker 35: parents trying to do the right thing. But there are
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  Speaker 35: always some people that stick with your heart forever, you know,
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  Speaker 35: families going through family violence. We had a dad through
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  Speaker 35: a couple of days ago who just lost his wife
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  Speaker 35: to cancer. So we didn't know what to do. You know,
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  Speaker 35: his wife is always the one that provided Christmas, so
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  Speaker 35: he felt really lost, so it was beautiful to help him.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah.
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  Speaker 34: Look, it's an amazing thing that you guys are doing here.
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  Speaker 34: And I guess have you noticed and increase this year
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  Speaker 34: with the cost of living?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, every year I feel like I'd say.
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  Speaker 26: It's getting worse.
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  Speaker 35: It's getting worse.
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  Speaker 1: It's getting worse.
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  Speaker 35: But you know, us and all the organizations that we
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  Speaker 35: work with have've experienced a huge increase in demand. Our
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  Speaker 35: food bank is up three hundred and thirty six percent
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  Speaker 35: this year from the year previous. It's a lot of
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  Speaker 35: people needing food and needing support. This year we have seen,
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  Speaker 35: you know, people emailing and wanting applications from September.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's a lot.
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  Speaker 34: Yeah, look, it's an amazing thing that you're doing here
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  Speaker 34: the Kinds Collective. Now, what we know is that the
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  Speaker 34: store is closing today. The physical Christmas store is closing today,
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  Speaker 34: but food bake donations are still open. So for those
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  Speaker 34: that are still wanting to help out and do their bit,
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  Speaker 34: what can they do.
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  Speaker 35: Yeah, so we've been going now for close to four weeks.
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  Speaker 35: Our food bank run right up until Christmas Eve, and
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  Speaker 35: we get a lot of requests from people as well,
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  Speaker 35: right up until the end. So we'll be delivering toys
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  Speaker 35: probably too. But people can here too our website, which
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  Speaker 35: is Kindness dot org dot nz and we will take
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  Speaker 35: their generosity and turn it into magic for other families
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  Speaker 35: and meet it's epics.
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  Speaker 34: Sarah, Hey, Merry Christmas to you, and Merry Christmas to
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  Speaker 34: everyone out there and the kids that are going to
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  Speaker 34: be waking up with something a little bit more magic this.
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  Speaker 1: Morning there, Mike, absolutely, what a huge help and very generous. Indeed,
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  Speaker 1: that is Katie Oliver our Herald Now report it. Thank
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  Speaker 1: you very much for that. Update is three minutes past nine.
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  Speaker 1: He's Wendy with the News.
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  Speaker 2: Herald Now News Howard Buying News Talk ZEDB.
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  Speaker 3: More hope in the economy after a higher than expected
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  Speaker 3: rise in GDP. Later stats n Z data shows the
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  Speaker 3: economy has grown one point one percent in the September quarter,
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  Speaker 3: surpassing expectations. Strong growth is also expected in the December quarter.
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  Speaker 3: Mark knoff Thomas, the chief executive of Auckland's Newmarket Business Association,
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  Speaker 3: says having the country officially back and growth should make
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  Speaker 3: everyone more optimistic.
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  Speaker 4: The GDP announcement is going to further add to the
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  Speaker 4: confidence and I think we can all look forward to
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  Speaker 4: some positive growth and a bit more happiness in the country.
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  Speaker 3: It's thought the closure of Gloria Vale School is more
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 3: complicated than just finding a new school. The Secretary of
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  Speaker 3: Education has canceled the Christian sex school license, forcing it
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 3: closed from January. It's been on notice for several weeks
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  Speaker 3: after failing another audit and being ruled physically and mentally
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 3: unsafe as students. Education researcher Liz Gordon says it's not
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 3: as straightforward as moving the students elsewhere.
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  Speaker 5: The Ministry should, in the interim negotiate to put in
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  Speaker 5: a number of professional teachers, bring them to the community
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  Speaker 5: and have the kids taught dead.
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  Speaker 3: Poor interagency communications and a disability support groups lack of
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 3: urgency being highlighted after a five year old's death. Kaiser
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 3: Delacroix drowned in a pond behind his family home on
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 3: the Gisbon farm in August last year. The young boy
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 3: was diagnosed autistic and nonverbal and was known to go
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 3: exploring Emily Ansalt reports.
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  Speaker 6: Coroner Menaldoogal's report states his mother had raised concerns about
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 6: his climbing ability with support group kaide or Her, requesting locks.
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 6: Coroner Dougals found this wasn't promptly addressed. Kide or Her
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  Speaker 6: accepts the findings but says it's not a systematical training
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 6: issue and they've now strengthened policies.
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  Speaker 3: A change in dynamic for the ASB Classic Tennis tournament
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 3: as its home get some upgrades. Auckland Council secured a
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 3: fifteen million dollar revamp of Manuka Doctor Arena, including five
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 3: million dollars for a new roof. Tennis Auckland CEO Rowan
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  Speaker 3: West says up until now venues in Brisbane, Sydney and
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 3: Perth have better options for players as they all have roofs.
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  Speaker 7: With Auckland your rolling the dice because the players do
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  Speaker 7: know that it can be a bit rainy Cambria bit windy.
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  Speaker 3: Auckland's in store for a new cemetery to the northwest.
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 3: The councilors agreed to buy six point five hectares of
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 3: land next to an existing private cemetery in Cumu. Earlyer
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 3: this year, our newsroom revealed t Waikumeti Cemetery, Auckland's largest,
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  Speaker 3: had run out of space and stopped burials in mid
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. Auckland Council says every year it carries
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  Speaker 3: out fifteen hundred burials, one thousand ash burials and almost
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  Speaker 3: two and a half thousand cremations.
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  Speaker 2: Herald now Sport, brought to you by gold Sport.
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  Speaker 3: New Zealand had massed a wall of runs on the
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  Speaker 3: opening day of the Third Cricket Test against the Winters
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  Speaker 3: Indies in Mount Monganui. The host of three hundred and
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  Speaker 3: thirty four for one England heads into day three of
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  Speaker 3: the Third Ashes Test in trouble at two hundred and
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  Speaker 3: thirteen for eight t one hundred and fifty eight runs
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  Speaker 3: behind Australia's first innings and tall Black's guard Shay Elly
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  Speaker 3: has re aggravated a hamstring injury and is Melbourne United
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  Speaker 3: side ninety seven to seventy five Australian Basketball League thumping
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  Speaker 3: of the Elawarra Hawks.
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  Speaker 8: Good morning. It's a bleak end to the week today
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  Speaker 8: with a series of frants heading north over the country
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  Speaker 8: followed by a very cold southwesterly flow, so that means
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  Speaker 8: heavy rain watches for the Ranges of Westland and headwaters
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  Speaker 8: of the Canterbury Lakes and rivers till for this afternoon.
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  Speaker 8: There's also road snowfall warnings for Milford Road till ten
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  Speaker 8: tonight and the Crown Range Road till two tomorrow morning.
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  Speaker 8: So plenty of rain here first ut but it does
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 8: start to ease from the south from late this morning,
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  Speaker 8: windsor gusty, but also easing tonight now Canterbury including christ
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  Speaker 8: Church will have rain developing from mid day. It will
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 8: be heavy and thundery with hail till late this afternoon
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  Speaker 8: with gusty southwesterlies. It's pretty cloudy and showery over the
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  Speaker 8: lower North especially from this afternoon, will turn to rain tonight.
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 8: Strong north or northwesters during the day look and go
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 8: out east just high cloud increasing throughout the day. A
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 8: few showers though Ford to and Pope Or with showers
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  Speaker 8: tonight for Totonger and plenty of cloud around for the
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  Speaker 8: upper North with the chance of showers from mid morning.
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  Speaker 8: It'll turn to rain for Auckland tonight with westerlies.
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  Speaker 1: And that is it for today and for this year.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks so much to all the team who launched this
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  Speaker 1: show and make it happen each and every day, Paul Simon,
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  Speaker 1: Katie Dallas, Frankie, Darren Tamara, Chris Alex, Mikayla, Alana, Nancy Dunk,
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  Speaker 1: Wendy Neva, Heather Garth, Kayla Zach and our amazingly talented
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  Speaker 1: group of video producers. I also want to acknowledge the
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  Speaker 1: legendary Sarah Bristow, whose vision brains early morning and her
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  Speaker 1: perseverance has helped shape this show, and of course my
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  Speaker 1: mate Ryan Bridge, who will hopefully be back with you
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  Speaker 1: on the twenty sixth of January next year. Until then,
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  Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us. We'll see you
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  Speaker 1: again in twenty twenty six.