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IHeartMedia Aviation Expert Jay Ratliff · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: It's Take twenty nine fifty five KERCD talk station. Man
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  Speaker 1: Thursdays have not been the same of late. You know
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  Speaker 1: how much I love talking to iHeart media aviation expert
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  Speaker 1: Jay Ratlift, and he is back after about of Bell's palsy.
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  Speaker 1: Jay Ratlift's so happy to have you on. Did you
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  Speaker 1: feel the power of prayer coursing through your body from
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  Speaker 1: my listening audience, Jay Ratlift.
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  Speaker 2: I did, indeed, sir, I did. Indeed.
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  Speaker 3: In fact, I got a lot of emails after about
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  Speaker 3: the second or third week saying hey, I've missed you,
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  Speaker 3: and I thought, wow, I took a while for him
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  Speaker 3: to miss the fact I wasn't there. But no, I
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  Speaker 3: got some very nice emails and a lot of people
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  Speaker 3: were chiming in as far as their experiences with Bell's
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  Speaker 3: paulsy and yeah, I was getting ready for church the
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  Speaker 3: last Sunday of October, looked in the mirror and the
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  Speaker 3: left side of my face was drooping and I thought, well.
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  Speaker 2: That's not right.
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  Speaker 3: Stroke went straight to the e. Well, you know that
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  Speaker 3: was my first thought. But there was any other stroke
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  Speaker 3: related symptoms. And I know that because I have a daughter.
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  Speaker 3: That's the heart and vascular ICU nurse. But you know,
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  Speaker 3: I promised my girls anytime that something didn't look right,
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  Speaker 3: off to the hospital I go. And I did, and
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  Speaker 3: they quickly assessed me and said it was Belle's palsy
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  Speaker 3: viral infection. It was mild, and they said, Jay, we
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  Speaker 3: don't know if it's going to be days, weeks, or
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  Speaker 3: months before we were able to get back, you know,
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  Speaker 3: to where it's normal. And you know, fortunately it was
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  Speaker 3: a mild case. The saddest part was my family didn't
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  Speaker 3: seem to mind me talking less, and that was I
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  Speaker 3: wasn't really ready for that ultra dose of compassion. But no,
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  Speaker 3: it it went well. And Buddy, I missed my routine.
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  Speaker 3: I yeah, still doing my trading stocks, is still training,
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  Speaker 3: but you know, the routine of which day it is.
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  Speaker 3: As far as my radio stuff as I have stuff
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  Speaker 3: around the country, there were days I had to remind
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  Speaker 3: myself what day of the week it was, and that
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  Speaker 3: was so I'm glad to have.
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  Speaker 1: The routine back, and so are my listening audience and
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  Speaker 1: me very much. I just I find this the segment
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  Speaker 1: so fascinating and often quite comical. We will get to
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  Speaker 1: a comical one at the tail end of our discussion
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  Speaker 1: this morning. Let us talk and you missed out quite
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  Speaker 1: a bit of aviation news. There wasn't a day or
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  Speaker 1: a week that went Biden say, man, I wish Jay
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  Speaker 1: Ratliffe was in better tradition. Yeah, I guarantee you Joe
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  Speaker 1: would have called you for a you know, an out
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  Speaker 1: of the ordinary segments on some other day of the
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  Speaker 1: week because of what was going on. So let's move
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  Speaker 1: past the shutdown and let's talk about the Trump administration
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  Speaker 1: has decided to withdraw the cash compensation rule that would
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  Speaker 1: have required airlines to pay cash for delays. Did the
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  Speaker 1: shutdown and all the complications in the literally thousands of
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  Speaker 1: flights that were canceledor delayed have anything to do with
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  Speaker 1: this decision? What's behind this Jay ratlift?
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  Speaker 3: Well, well, it's the fact that the Trump administration is
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  Speaker 3: a very cozy relationship with airlines. We've talked about this,
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this was this was a Biden something that
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  Speaker 3: Joe Biden his administration put him about a year ago.
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  Speaker 3: And this cash compensation rule, which is what we referred
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  Speaker 3: to it as said, Look, if you're a passenger and
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  Speaker 3: you're delayed more than three hours or more, you're going
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  Speaker 3: to be entitled to cash compensation, guaranteed meals, lodging when necessary,
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  Speaker 3: and ground transportation when it applies. And of course, when
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  Speaker 3: Donald Trump was elected, which I was very glad to see,
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  Speaker 3: airline stocks hole went up and people said, well, Jay,
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  Speaker 3: why would that be the case, And I said, well,
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  Speaker 3: to be candid, there's a very good relationship there was
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  Speaker 3: in the first administration between Trump and the airlines and
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  Speaker 3: the Biden administration. And you've heard me say this repeatedly.
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  Speaker 3: Even though I did not care for it at all,
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  Speaker 3: they did try to hold airlines accountable and they did
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  Speaker 3: more in that regard than any other presidential administration that
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  Speaker 3: I can remember, going back three decades. They absolutely hammered
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  Speaker 3: airlines trying to hold them accountable. And then, of course
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  Speaker 3: once the Trump administration takes over, and after yes, the
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  Speaker 3: airlines donated a million dollars each to the Trump inaugural fund.
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  Speaker 3: Boeing was in that line as well. It was like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: it was just it was there. You knew what was
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  Speaker 3: going to happen. And of course Boeing, remember they pleaded
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  Speaker 3: guilty to a lot of criminal issues in connection with
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  Speaker 3: the Boeing Max crashes that we had a number of
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  Speaker 3: years ago. After Trump gets elected, they go back to
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  Speaker 3: the Department Transportation asking if they could withdraw some of
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  Speaker 3: that and kind of have it.
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  Speaker 2: Revisited, and they did and.
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  Speaker 3: They nothing went to trial of find that was it.
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  Speaker 3: So it really bothered me, and I wasn't surprised at
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  Speaker 3: all because I knew that that was going to go
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  Speaker 3: off the table, even though other countries around the world
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  Speaker 3: have something similar to this in place. It's the airlines
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  Speaker 3: to tell the government what they're going to do many places,
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  Speaker 3: and refreshingly, that wasn't the case during the last four years,
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  Speaker 3: and I was really glad to see it. But the
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  Speaker 3: reality that the Donald Trump administration would continue that same
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  Speaker 3: course was a real slight consideration, and I wasn't surprised.
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  Speaker 3: I was ticked because I really wanted to see it
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  Speaker 3: in place. It needed to be in place, but unfortunately
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  Speaker 3: it's not.
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  Speaker 1: Well, what would the financial landscape look like if the
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  Speaker 1: rules in place and they were required to issue cash
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  Speaker 1: compensation for the delays and the cancelations after what happened
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  Speaker 1: during the shutdown, Well.
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  Speaker 3: Let's see the cat you mean to the airlines, They
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  Speaker 3: Delta and United would not be allowed to report or
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't be able to report a billion dollars in profits
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  Speaker 3: in a single quarter.
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  Speaker 2: That's probably the number one thing.
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  Speaker 3: Because you know when you're actually being forced to compensate
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  Speaker 3: passengers when you screw up. And I'm not talking about
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  Speaker 3: weather delays and things like that, but when you intentionally
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  Speaker 3: schedule more flights than you know you can pull off,
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  Speaker 3: and you're counting on a percentage of those canceling, which happens.
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  Speaker 3: That's why they overbook flights. There's going to be a
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  Speaker 3: percentage of people. And there's airlines that have thirty five
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  Speaker 3: gates available at a time, and they'll schedule forty airplanes
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  Speaker 3: to arrive at the same time, counting on five of
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  Speaker 3: them being laid. Yet will all forty get there at
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  Speaker 3: the same time, Well, five have to be sitting out
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  Speaker 3: on the tarmac and you and I've been through that.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there's that's culpability there. At least you can point
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  Speaker 1: to a decision they made which as exposed as them
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  Speaker 1: because they chose to overbook, unlike say, an act of
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  Speaker 1: God kind.
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  Speaker 3: Of thing, which those things wouldn't be covered under this right.
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  Speaker 3: It would be a late arriving crew repeating mechanical issues.
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  Speaker 3: These types of things that you know squarely could fall
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  Speaker 3: on the lap of the airlines. And now what they
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  Speaker 3: do when we have those issues, Brian, they'll give us.
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  Speaker 3: Here's five thousand frequent flyer.
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  Speaker 2: Mons, right, big apology there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, and I suppose air traffic control is not
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  Speaker 1: showing up because of government action or inaction as the case.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe that also is. Isn't the airline's fault. They didn't
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  Speaker 1: tell the f the employees who are mandatory or necessary
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  Speaker 1: not to show up to work causing problems.
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  Speaker 3: So no ripple effects on them, right, A real quick
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  Speaker 3: ps to that. You know airlines were mandated to reduce
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  Speaker 3: their flight activity in those supporting airports.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, they were ordered to, and we'll talk about that next.
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  Speaker 1: Because that order mandating reductions over effective this past Monday
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  Speaker 1: at six am. Did it have any effect? Are we
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  Speaker 1: okay to travel? Thanksgiving? That we will talk about coming
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  Speaker 1: up next among other topics with Jay Ratliffe, the return
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  Speaker 1: of Jay Ratliff. What a wonderful thing. Don't go away?
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  Speaker 1: Fifty five KRC the talk station. Have you ever been
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  Speaker 1: in the cockpit before? Jay Ratliffe has the return of
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  Speaker 1: Jay Ratliffe after a brief health stint with Bell's policy.
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  Speaker 1: Is so pleased to have them back on the program,
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  Speaker 1: and there was much rejoicing. Okay, the FAA Entity Emergency
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  Speaker 1: Order mandating reductions reductions brought about. I guess because while
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  Speaker 1: this shutdown was going on, in spite of the fact
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  Speaker 1: they were guaranteed to get their pay and they are
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  Speaker 1: essential employees, air traffic controllers were choosing to take days off,
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  Speaker 1: calling in sick. And I get that on some level,
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  Speaker 1: maybe they had to go out and get another job,
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  Speaker 1: but it happened, and so we had to reduce flights.
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  Speaker 1: That's over effect of this past Monday at six am.
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  Speaker 1: Are things looking good in terms of air traffic control?
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  Speaker 2: Now?
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  Speaker 1: Have they come back to work? Are we on schedule?
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  Speaker 1: Jay Ratlift, Yeah, We're We're on schedule.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 3: Keep in mind, before the shutdown, we still were battling
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  Speaker 3: with a shortage of air traffic controllers. Oh ye're averaging
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  Speaker 3: averaging per day about thirty nine hundred flight delays a day.
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  Speaker 3: So when we get back to normal, we can measure
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  Speaker 3: that by are we seeing less than four thousand delayed
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  Speaker 3: flights today? If so, yeah, we're right in check. So
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  Speaker 3: we have gotten back to that. In fact, airlines have
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  Speaker 3: made it clear that look, they're gonna have all hands
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  Speaker 3: on deck. Schedule is going to be at full capacity
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  Speaker 3: for what, in his essence, the busiest travel week of
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  Speaker 3: the year, which is the busy Thanksgiving travel period. You
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  Speaker 3: have the busiest day of the week historically the Sunday
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  Speaker 3: after Thanksgiving. The second busiest day of the year is
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  Speaker 3: typically the Wednesday before. So airlines have made it clear
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  Speaker 3: that they do not anticipate any issues for that, and
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  Speaker 3: they did say at six am on Monday that those
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  Speaker 3: restrictions that they had in place at those forty airports
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  Speaker 3: to reduce the traffic by I think it was four
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  Speaker 3: or five six percent something along those lines, they were
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  Speaker 3: going to increase it to ten percent. We never had
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  Speaker 3: to get to that. But the FAA also noted Brian
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  Speaker 3: that not all airlines restrict did the number of their
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  Speaker 3: flights at those airports as they were required to do. Now,
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  Speaker 3: the FAA has said for any airline that did not
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  Speaker 3: do what they were supposed to, they're going to seek
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  Speaker 3: a fine of US seventy five thousand dollars for every
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  Speaker 3: flight operated above that mandated limit. Now I can tell
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  Speaker 3: you some airlines are going to be hit with a fine,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm going to tell you most of those airlines
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  Speaker 3: it's going to be negotiated down or go away. We're
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  Speaker 3: back to that same arrogance of the airlines and the
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  Speaker 3: airlines kind of telling the government what they're going to
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  Speaker 3: do instead of the other way around. And it frustrates me.
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  Speaker 3: But that's just the reality of the power of the
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  Speaker 3: lobbying group that you really have with the airlines, and
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  Speaker 3: it's going to continue to be the case. So I'm
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  Speaker 3: excited that they are going to be held accountable with
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  Speaker 3: a possible seventy five thousand dollars per flight fine, but
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  Speaker 3: I know it's not going to stick.
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  Speaker 1: Well, if you got that much power, any of the fools,
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  Speaker 1: one that's not looking out for his or her own
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  Speaker 1: best interests, you have to at least make the argument
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  Speaker 1: that you should lower it. Now you're asking for seventy
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  Speaker 1: five thousand, how about we write you check for ten
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  Speaker 1: and hopefully you land someplace in the middle or closer
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  Speaker 1: to the lower side if you're the airline. But of
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  Speaker 1: course you're going to try to haggle. That doesn't mean
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  Speaker 1: the government has to concede to your demands.
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  Speaker 3: But I just would like for all it maybe oh
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  Speaker 3: fifty thousand in IRS taxes?
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  Speaker 2: Can we negotiate that down to like thirty I don't
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  Speaker 2: think so. There's some company it's not fair.
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  Speaker 1: There's some companies out there that advertise all the time
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  Speaker 1: on various radio programs saying they can do exactly that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you're on the hook for the IRS for
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  Speaker 1: fifty grand.
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  Speaker 3: That's in penalties and things like that. I know if
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  Speaker 3: you haven't known what you're supposed to. But Brent, it
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  Speaker 3: just bothers me because there's a safety related fine where
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  Speaker 3: the fa you know, hit some airline with a four
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  Speaker 3: million dollars you didn't do the maintenance you were supposed
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  Speaker 3: to find it's negotiated down to like a third of
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  Speaker 3: that as long as they promise never to do it again.
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  Speaker 3: And it just it just I walk around and banging
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  Speaker 3: my head off the wall, because it's just how are
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  Speaker 3: we going to learn a lesson if it doesn't have
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  Speaker 3: some teeth in it when you're actually talking about consequences
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  Speaker 3: for actions that they knew not to do.
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  Speaker 1: Well, And you know there's other thing is which is
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  Speaker 1: avoiding the problem in the get go by continuing to
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  Speaker 1: pay the air traffic controllers during a shutdown, and I
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  Speaker 1: know there was a meeting yesterday with the Senate Aviation
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  Speaker 1: Subcommittee hearing they were talking about just that now we
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  Speaker 1: could pick areas of government that you've got to pay
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  Speaker 1: these people period in the story. Look what happened last
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  Speaker 1: time when these particular people weren't paid, They didn't show up,
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  Speaker 1: didn't do the job, and we couldn't fly an airplane.
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  Speaker 1: I know because I learned during this shutdown that banks
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  Speaker 1: will provide government employees with interest free loans, knowing full
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  Speaker 1: well that the government is going to pay them back
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  Speaker 1: when they go back to work. The money is sound secure,
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  Speaker 1: there's no issue with regard to losses. You enter into paperwork,
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  Speaker 1: you pay them back when you get your paycheck, no problem.
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  Speaker 1: I found out there's something called the Airport and Airway
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  Speaker 1: Trust Fund. They have their own trust fund, and there
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  Speaker 1: was some discussions about listen, let us tap into the
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  Speaker 1: air to this trust fund, pay our employees, and then,
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  Speaker 1: of course, like the banks get paid back when they
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  Speaker 1: come back to work, we can refund the trust fund.
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  Speaker 1: What is wrong with that as a solution.
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  Speaker 3: It's nothing's wrong with it, and it frustrates me a
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  Speaker 3: lot of the things that were available weren't used and utilized,
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  Speaker 3: and you had a lot of air traffic controllers, as
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  Speaker 3: you mentioned, forced to go do door dash or whatever
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  Speaker 3: other job they had so they could get paid and
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  Speaker 3: had some money coming in. And I like Donald Trump's
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  Speaker 3: President Trump's thought about, hey, let's give every air traffic
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  Speaker 3: controller who didn't call in sick during this at ten
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  Speaker 3: thousand dollars bonus. There's always things that we can look
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  Speaker 3: at doing and sadly and sanely, so every time we
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  Speaker 3: go through one of these things, you do have a
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  Speaker 3: situation where you've got an air traffic control network that's
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  Speaker 3: already stressed. Because remember, if we're three thousand air traffic
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  Speaker 3: controllers short as of this moment, you have people working
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  Speaker 3: over time, You've got a lot of you know, exhausted
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  Speaker 3: people out there that these men and women that are
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  Speaker 3: just trying to keep things rolling. It's going to be
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  Speaker 3: the same thing over the holidays of Thanksgiving and from
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  Speaker 3: the fifteenth of December to the end of the year,
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  Speaker 3: where you know it's going to be stressed. Now, it's
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  Speaker 3: not unsafe, but because when we start getting a lot
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  Speaker 3: of congestion, the airlines have a throttle back policy where
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  Speaker 3: they will reduce the airflow into a certain region based
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  Speaker 3: on the air traffic controllers that they have in place.
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  Speaker 3: So there are always safety standards that we have there
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  Speaker 3: from a minimum that prevent a lot of over taxing
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  Speaker 3: where we're trying to put too many flights in a
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  Speaker 3: specific area. And that's good to see, and that's why
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  Speaker 3: you have the ground stops and the other things that
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  Speaker 3: take place when we have an air traffic management situation
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  Speaker 3: that occurs. So I don't want anybody to worry with
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  Speaker 3: this shortage, but it does cause some headaches, and that's
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  Speaker 3: one of the reasons I've been thrilled that President Trump
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  Speaker 3: is saying, look, let's get this fixed.
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  Speaker 2: But when you recognize to.
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  Speaker 3: Get hired, you're five years away from working on your own,
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  Speaker 3: it's a process. So we've got to increase the facilities.
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  Speaker 3: We've got a shortage of air traffic control trainers. We've
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  Speaker 3: got to address that, maybe hiring people from other countries
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  Speaker 3: to come in as well. So there's a lot of
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  Speaker 3: things in place that we're looking at, and I just
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  Speaker 3: hope it continues to remain a priority for President Trump
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  Speaker 3: because if he can get this fixed, then for the
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  Speaker 3: next fifteen years, things are going to be much better
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  Speaker 3: in aviation the same way. If he can address the
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  Speaker 3: outdated technology for the next twenty years, that's going to
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  Speaker 3: benefit this country. So President Trump is doing some things
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  Speaker 3: that other people have talked about no one has done
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  Speaker 3: to any significance. And if he can pull it off,
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  Speaker 3: the benefits of him will outlive us with regards to
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  Speaker 3: what's taking place.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm thrilled to see it, and I just hope
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  Speaker 2: it continues.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, how many generations of humanity have been born
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  Speaker 1: since the end of floppy disc usage, Jay Ratliffe, And
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  Speaker 1: there still using fly.
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  Speaker 2: Ground based radar going back to World War Two.
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  Speaker 3: You know that's a lot of this stuff is based
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  Speaker 3: on too. So it's just nuts when you look at it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to end in a lighter note. Plus, hub
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  Speaker 1: delay is coming up. Hey listen, if you want a windows,
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  Speaker 1: if you want to look out a window by a
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  Speaker 1: window seat more with Jay Ratliff after these brief words.
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  Speaker 1: Fifty five the Toxic the talk station.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, fifty I.
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  Speaker 1: Fifty five kerc DE talk station. So nice. Seven Jay Ratliff,
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  Speaker 1: I heart Media Aviation Expert back on the program. So
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  Speaker 1: happy that he's over the bell's palsy issue. And I
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  Speaker 1: guess timing couldn't have been better as we're getting ready
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  Speaker 1: to segue into if you want to view again, get
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  Speaker 1: a window seat. I looked up, Jay, there's a Babylon
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  Speaker 1: B post. I sort of clicked on like and I
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  Speaker 1: get there posts from time to time. It's a picture
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  Speaker 1: of a guy. It's a picture of a guy in
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  Speaker 1: an airline or an airplane holding his head headlined mail
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  Speaker 1: passenger disappointed after another flight ends without a stewardess, frantically
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  Speaker 1: asking if anyone can land the plane, just like it
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  Speaker 1: happens in the movies all the time. Anyway, moving absolutely
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  Speaker 1: got what. You're not entitled to a view if you're
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  Speaker 1: on an airplane unless you're in a window seat, right, Jay.
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: Oh, this is just just maddening, but it is. There's
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: a class action lawsuit that's being brought on by passengers
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: against Delta and United because passengers are paying for window
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: seats and when they board the airplane and they're seated
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: in that seat, there's no window. It's a wall. And
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: the way this happens is when an aircraft is delivered
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: to an airline, it's cifically configured the way the airline wants.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: We're gonna have x amount of seats up front and
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: premium or first class, and then we're gonna have this
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: many seats and coach, and normally the buffer between the
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: two you won't have a window. It'll just kind of
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: be the wall itself. When an airline will then change
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: the number of seats and coach or first class, the
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: rows get adjusted where everything moves back a bit or
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: forward a bit, and then inbearably what happens is you'll
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: have a seat that's moved a whole row where instead
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: of having a window, you're now seated next to that
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: wall where you don't have a window. So keep in
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: mind you're being paid extra. You're being charged extra to
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: sit in a premium seat, a window seat, and passengers saying, look,
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: i paid for a window seat and I'm getting there
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: and I'm next to a wall. I want a window.
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  Speaker 3: And now there's this class action lawsuit and United has
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: made it clear just because you've paid for a window
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  Speaker 3: seat doesn't entitle you to a view. And Brian, every
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: time I've talked about this, I have thought, I can't
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: wait to talk to Brian. I can't wait to talk
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: to Brian, because I want to ask you, with your
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: your extensive law training background, is that an insult or
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: is it a stupid thing to say? Or is that
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: legally you know something that you know, United can say
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: just because you paid for a window seat doesn't mean
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: you're entitled.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: To a view.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: They'd only be entitled to say that if there's a
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: disclaimer saying exactly what you just said. You know, because
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: you ordered a window seat doesn't necessarily entitle you a
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: window seat, and they can even give the explanation why.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: But if they say windows seat without any qualification or caveats,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: and they are false advertising if they put you in
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: a seat without a window.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: And that's that's the basis of the lawsuits. And I'm
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: really hoping that the two airlines get dinged on it
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: because to shrug it off and go, eh, you know,
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: it's not really that big of an issue, not that
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: big of a concern, not our problem. You know, you
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: paid to sit in that seat, and if you don't
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: happen to have a window seat, will so be it.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of people that look they look.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: Out the window to relax as they fly. There's people
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: that are a bit claustrophobic that need the windows so
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: they can relax when they fly a.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Lot of different reasons.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: And when you take that away and just kind of
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: dismiss the concerns as Delta and United have done it
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: in this matter, it's insulting. And I look at that
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: arrogance thing. It just it bothers me because here again
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: is yet another example of how we're told passengers come first.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: Uh uh, they never do. It's the bottom the bottom
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: line that comes first. It's not the employees. Sometimes it's
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: not as safe as I would like kind of thing.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: It's but it happens to be an issue where they
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: are doing what they have to do to kind of
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: pad their bottom line. So you know, for me, it's
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: it's it was just an insane statement for United to
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: make great and I appreciate you letting me know because
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: I did not think that that would stand. But we'll say,
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: I guess what happens when they get to court.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Yes, we will keep your bob going out on that one,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Jay Rattliff, And as we do, I think I got
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: a little insight into air traffic generally this week. As
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: you said, we've got things sort of resolved now, but
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: as for travel today, how are things looking for my listeners?
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: You know, weather there's going to be concerned next week
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: because we might have a couple of storms coming in.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: So make sure the airlines have a way to get
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: a hold of you, and please get to the airport
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: two hours before departure. But if you were flying today,
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: Dallas and Los Angeles are going to be the two
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: problem children of the day.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: Chicago maybe late in.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: The day, but I really think the headaches are going
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: to be Dallas in Los Angeles as we're going to
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: be fighting a lot of rain, wind and some limited visibility.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: So glad you're back, Jay right lift obviously had no
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: struggles whatsoever doing the report on aviation today and I'm
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: so pleased to have you back. And I'll look forward
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: to next Thursday as I always do. Eight thirty men
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: will hit the ground running next week. Hope you and
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: your better half have a fantastic weekend. Of course, in week.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Between now and then, as you are my friend, Thank you.
• 19:42
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• 19:45
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