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- 1:3015 % off of a premium membership But college
- 1:34basketball is officially over the winners are
- 1:37the Florida Gators in I don't know whether to
- 1:42call it heroic fashion or Houston choking fashion
- 1:47But we'll get into that here in a second. Chris,
- 1:51how are you doing today? I'm all right, I guess.
- 1:56There's just no college basketball on anymore.
- 1:59And that makes me sad. And also double sad that
- 2:04Houston just choked Houston Moneyline down the
- 2:09toilet Houston plus 600 future along with it.
- 2:14It was I was so sad. That was like the saddest
- 2:18I've been for like a non -vols or non, one of
- 2:22my team's loss in a while. That, that really
- 2:26sucked. So I'm not doing great, but trying to
- 2:32turn around betting on baseball. So yeah, doing
- 2:38all right, but we're hanging in there just talking
- 2:42with the boys. So it's not that bad. So. All
- 2:47right, Sean. How are you Sean? Yeah, Chris. I'm
- 2:51kind of in the same boat If if the listeners
- 2:54don't know at home, I have a job or I have to
- 2:57get up very early in the morning So unfortunately,
- 3:01I did not get to witness the national championship
- 3:05game. I checked the score before I went to bed
- 3:09Houston was up by 11 I believe at one point And
- 3:14I was like, oh, I can go to bed easy. And I just
- 3:18drifted off to sleep land. And I woke up at 3
- 3:25AM. I was like, oh, time to check this account.
- 3:31The account was empty. Hated that. I was also
- 3:36writing the Houston plus 600 and Houston Moneyline.
- 3:41along with the over, but the over really never
- 3:45had a chance, really. It was more about, that
- 3:49was a respect bet. If you bet an under in a championship
- 3:54game, you are, no matter if it wins, you're a
- 3:57loser. Let's just put it that way. But yeah,
- 4:02very, I went back and watched the last couple
- 4:07of minutes of that game and I felt like I was
- 4:12in the moment. I felt the happiness just slip
- 4:18away, even though I already knew that they lost.
- 4:25But whatever. I've been riding the verified trends
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- 5:00I don't think I am anymore. I suck. So shout
- 5:04out to the trendset for just keeping me above
- 5:07water. for the time being. So, yeah. Right. Yeah,
- 5:15I didn't really bet on the final four except
- 5:18for the championship game. But, you know, everybody
- 5:25was on Houston Moneyline in the group chat. And
- 5:30I was like, well, I mean, I have to. It did kind
- 5:36of fall into the though that that pitfall of
- 5:39nobody at least in our circle really wanted to
- 5:43see Florida win it all and when everyone is on
- 5:48one side, that's a pretty telltale sign that
- 5:52you got a loser on your hands and but at the
- 5:57same time I Mean Houston they they choked that
- 6:01game away. They were up by 12 at one point like
- 6:04like this is This is ridiculous. This is the
- 6:06national championship game. You may never get
- 6:08back here. You know, you've been a one, two,
- 6:11three seed. You've been a high seed for the past
- 6:13couple of years, but this was your shot, you
- 6:16know? You know, it's not impossible to make it
- 6:20back, but. It's it's it's not going to be easy,
- 6:24you know, but. But, you know, that's that's next
- 6:28year story, and now we're. We're kind of moving
- 6:31on to I don't know the the NHL is winding down
- 6:35the NBA is winding down Really haven't paid attention
- 6:40to the NBA at all except for the the hilarious
- 6:43stories Like Anthony Edwards wanting to pay all
- 6:4818 years of child support all at once. I don't
- 6:51know if you guys heard about that Can you do
- 6:54that is that legal I don't know Like that's what
- 7:00I was thinking. I was like, yeah, why, why can't
- 7:03he like as he's paying it? Like, like if you
- 7:06pay, it's like buying a car, like you can, you
- 7:10can just pay for the car and its entirety upfront.
- 7:14Yeah. I don't see why you can't pay for 216 months
- 7:17of child support just upfront. Yeah. I mean,
- 7:21uh, I don't, I don't see a problem with it either.
- 7:22Um, it's just very not the norm, you know? No,
- 7:29it's not the norm because well, I think most,
- 7:32you know, child support people who pay child
- 7:35support often rely on the just monthly basis.
- 7:40Like they don't often pay the whole thing up
- 7:43front. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, for
- 7:47sure. It's not it's not financially viable for
- 7:50for most people. But Anthony Edwards, God forbid.
- 7:57You can do that. I'm pretty sure you can do that.
- 8:02Good for him. He made the bag. And honestly,
- 8:10it's out of his hands and it's up to the mother
- 8:16on how she chooses to spend that child support.
- 8:25I'm not throwing no shade. I just you know no
- 8:28it's very outside of the norm and it's it's a
- 8:31sure low -key funny, but also pretty smart because
- 8:35it's like I think your child support payments
- 8:38are based off of the money you make and You know
- 8:41if He's probably gonna get it. You know a big
- 8:45-ass contract After the one he's he's currently
- 8:48on which he's gonna make more so if he pays all
- 8:51in 3d chest yeah This is a this three chest level
- 8:55move But uh, I mean, I just thought that was
- 8:59funny, but that's that's like a couple of weeks
- 9:01old Shit, I mean we're kind of uh, I Don't know.
- 9:07We're we're getting into the playoffs of both
- 9:10the NHL and the the NBA Haven't really followed
- 9:14the the NBA like I said because from just for
- 9:19like what I'm hearing it's like the teams that
- 9:21like Don't even have a chance like aren't even
- 9:26putting up any sort of fight and Yeah, that's
- 9:31how it usually is but also like I don't know
- 9:34it feels like It feels like the dudes that are
- 9:38on NFL teams that are knocked out pretty early
- 9:40like still kind of Battle because you're always
- 9:44battling for your next contract That's that's
- 9:48the way I see it, but it's just kind of like
- 9:50in a and it's sort of a betting sense. It's like
- 9:52you can't really tell what you're going to get
- 9:57from it unless both the teams are a playoff team,
- 10:00which, you know, can be good, can be bad, but
- 10:05it's, you know, incredibly difficult to predict.
- 10:10Oh, sorry. Oh, yeah, John. Let's let's talk about
- 10:14John that hitting the game winner in front of
- 10:17a Bell of Danger. So we're talking about. Well,
- 10:20that was awesome, but no. I didn't know that
- 10:23one. So yeah, that was a few days ago. I don't
- 10:28remember if you saw that. I think that was like
- 10:30Saturday. Yeah. I think, yeah, I saw it Sunday
- 10:33morning. But yeah. But so we know, we all know
- 10:38Ja has a not great history with weapons off the
- 10:44court. What? Yeah. Breaking news. He got suspended,
- 10:50or not suspended, fined recently for doing like
- 10:54a celebration where he was simulating brandishing
- 10:57a weapon. It wasn't like the, it looked like
- 11:02he had a shotgun and he was pointing it at the
- 11:04warrior's bench. But he got suspended, or not
- 11:08suspended, he got fined for that. So last night,
- 11:11they're playing the Hornets, I think. He hit
- 11:13a shot. And he simulated throwing a grenade into
- 11:17the crowd. This guy's the best. If he can't do
- 11:28it on Instagram Live, he might as well just do
- 11:32it when you're on TNT. I hope he doesn't get
- 11:37fined for that, but it would be funny if... He
- 11:40keeps getting fined for doing these, and he just
- 11:42keeps upping like the ante of the weapon. Next
- 11:46he has like a bazooka. This guy's hilarious.
- 11:53Right, and then for some odd reason, and I only
- 11:57noticed because I get the ESPN alerts, but a
- 12:02bunch of the playoff teams are firing their coach?
- 12:06What is... Do we do we know anything why why
- 12:09that why that is this is happening? Well, about
- 12:12the Grizzlies fired Taylor Jenkins like a week
- 12:15or so ago. There are 656 seed right now. Don't
- 12:21know why they did that. And then, yeah, a couple
- 12:23of days ago or yesterday, yesterday, the Nuggets
- 12:26fired Mike Malone, which they're a four seed.
- 12:31They won the title two years ago. They have the
- 12:35best player on the planet. What the hell is going
- 12:38on? Like I know he's very much like he's a hard
- 12:41ass and I think he's kind of butted heads with
- 12:43a lot of the players, but Who gives a shit? Your
- 12:49four seed he I saw he has the most wins like
- 12:52kind of by a lot of all active NBA coaches in
- 12:56the last five years Like again you won a title
- 13:01two years ago you could You have a decent chance
- 13:05of doing it again this year. No, we don't need
- 13:07one of those pesky head coaches. Get out of here.
- 13:13I don't care if he's a hard ass. If you're going
- 13:15to fire him, at least wait until after the season.
- 13:19Having it be a couple of weeks before the playoffs.
- 13:23And they fired the GM too. So there were reports
- 13:27that him and the GM were butting heads over who
- 13:30should be getting playing time and stuff like
- 13:31that. It's like, okay, well, that's obviously
- 13:33not why he got fired because then you fired the
- 13:35GM. So I don't, I don't know what the hell is
- 13:38going on. And honestly, I kind of just blows
- 13:40up in their face. Hopefully go out first round.
- 13:44Yeah. But Yoke, it is awesome. He is awesome,
- 13:47but he doesn't, he got, he's got his money. He's
- 13:50got his ring. He, he's probably just counting
- 13:53down the days until he can retire. Until he can
- 13:57take care of his horses with the horses. I would
- 14:00have retired right after, if I were him, just,
- 14:03I mean, he's got very many millions of dollars.
- 14:08I don't know what his contract is exactly. One
- 14:10of the title, yeah, just fuck off. Go back to
- 14:13go back to Serbia. Raise your horses who he doesn't
- 14:16like basketball. He certainly doesn't like winning,
- 14:21uh, the whole thing. That whole, that whole championship
- 14:26circuit had him in a pretzel. Which was one of
- 14:29the most hilarious things I've ever seen from
- 14:31a professional athlete, but God bless him. When
- 14:35they asked him about the parade, he was like,
- 14:37when is parade? He was like, Thursday. God damn
- 14:41it. Gotta go home, man. They have to see horses.
- 14:47Love that guy. Yeah, shout out. Shout out, Joker.
- 14:52Big fan of the show. You know, I can we go back
- 14:57to college basketball real quick. Yeah Because
- 15:01I think it is kind of hilarious how Duke had
- 15:04Zion and Cooper flag and they couldn't do anything
- 15:09They couldn't get there It's pretty comical Yeah,
- 15:13if you I I think I have a point here that that
- 15:18Chris can sort of expand on I think the problem
- 15:23with Duke is They since they're such a highly
- 15:27touted program They get a lot of one and duns
- 15:31and that's kind of I don't know. That's just
- 15:34kind of my take maybe that's you know, not Too
- 15:38pertinent, but I mean Chris. Do you have anything
- 15:41to add? I mean, I Mean, yeah, that definitely
- 15:44goes into it It like, yeah, you're not able to
- 15:49build a whole lot of continuity when you just
- 15:51have a revolving door of NBA talent coming through.
- 15:53And that's kind of what Kentucky's problem was.
- 15:56Um, towards the end of cows rain on top of couch
- 15:59being a terrible coach, but I, it is weird how
- 16:04they haven't been to a title game in 10 years,
- 16:07I think. And yeah, they've had, I, I saw like
- 16:13a tweet, it had like the list of just players
- 16:15they've had. on the teams in the last 10 years.
- 16:19And it's like, how can you like, how can you
- 16:21not go to a title game? Like when winning you
- 16:24like, that's obviously very hard to do, but make
- 16:28one championship appearance over 10 years when
- 16:31you just, when you constantly have the best players,
- 16:33it is shocking, especially because say what you
- 16:36will about coach K, like he's an asshole, like
- 16:39off the floor and stuff like that. He's a phenomenal
- 16:41coach. He's probably the best to ever do it.
- 16:45John Shire is fine. Um, or he's very good, but
- 16:49for Duke standards, we'll see. But I don't, it's
- 16:53very weird how they just can't seem to get there.
- 16:57It's also part of it, at least this season, the
- 16:59ACC was God awful. So they hadn't played a team
- 17:04on their truly on their level since November.
- 17:09And like when you're not tested, at least. couple
- 17:14times in conference play. Like, yeah, they lost
- 17:16a Clemson, but it's like, you're going to lose
- 17:18at some point, but they, all their games, they're
- 17:21blowing people out for the most part. So when
- 17:23you're hardly ever tested, when you get punched
- 17:26in the face, you're kind of just like, Oh shit,
- 17:28what do we do now? I just got punched in the
- 17:31face. Yeah. Like, Oh, I'm not used to this. Also,
- 17:34they don't have a this year. They didn't have
- 17:36a point guard. Yeah. Makes no sense. Yeah. That's
- 17:42kind of important. Um, like you're getting like
- 17:45gut check time against a very physical defense
- 17:48like Houston. You're giving the ball to granted.
- 17:51He's a fantastic player. One of the best Dukes
- 17:54ever had to a 17 year old forward, bringing it
- 17:57up the floor and Cooper flag who's kind of proven
- 18:00to not be clutch at all. Some shit could happen
- 18:06and some shit did happen. So that's obviously
- 18:09looking at it hindsight 2020, but it's not shocking
- 18:13to how this year at least it they didn't make
- 18:16it. Mm hmm. Yeah. And just what a collapse, you
- 18:22know? Yeah. Their Houston game. Like, I mean,
- 18:28Cooper flag, like just completely missed that
- 18:31jump, like just. I mean, he pissed down his leg
- 18:34the last. Yeah. Seven minutes or so. Lights were
- 18:38like too bright for him almost. Too bright for
- 18:42the whole team. Honest. Yeah. I just think it's
- 18:45kind of funny, like how they, I think I did see
- 18:48that tweet as well that you were talking about.
- 18:51And it is like, it is a long list of notable
- 18:56basketball players and how they just can't get
- 19:02to a, they can't even get to the final. Like
- 19:06it's a, it's almost comical, almost. It's a little
- 19:10sad. But no, I love it. I fucked you. It's hilarious.
- 19:16Okay Many people feel that way. Yeah, I will
- 19:19say but I Didn't hate I didn't hate this Duke
- 19:23team. I'll say they were a lot of when they were
- 19:26rolling they were fun to watch I Still didn't
- 19:31like them. Don't get me wrong. That's saying
- 19:32I was a fan But I didn't have the same level
- 19:34of hatred as I did like the coach Kate years
- 19:37because I didn't have like us like they had their
- 19:39white kids, but they were like Just good. There's
- 19:43good basketball. They weren't jackasses like
- 19:44Grayson Allen and guys like that kicking people
- 19:46in the dick They were just ballin Mm -hmm. Hell
- 19:53yeah, but it's all I really had but yeah, it
- 19:56was uh Houston coming back to to win that game
- 20:00Was awesome, you know That was yeah, that was
- 20:05madness and I mean so was So, so was the championship
- 20:10game. That was madness. So. Houston Duke at least
- 20:17felt like it was a good game. Like it was a good
- 20:20basketball game. Yeah. Like Duke obviously choked,
- 20:22but it felt like it was a good, it was a visually
- 20:25entertaining for the most part game. Florida
- 20:28Houston, it was very, it was close. It was like
- 20:32entertaining down the stretch just cause it got,
- 20:34because it, it was like one possession game for
- 20:37most of the final few minutes. that game sucked
- 20:40let's be honest yeah that game was a little bit
- 20:43of a rock fight definitely yeah even at the point
- 20:47where they were up by 12 it's like that was that
- 20:50was a tough 12 you know um yeah and it never
- 20:54felt like yeah they were up 12 but and obviously
- 20:57this has to do with florida just being really
- 20:59good but it never felt like houston was like
- 21:01all right they got it like they can just kind
- 21:03of which maybe they felt like that that's why
- 21:04they blew it but as i was watching it i was never
- 21:08it didn't feel like they were up 12 mm -hmm yeah
- 21:13it i mean watching it and they were up 12 i was
- 21:18like all right i might be able to go to bed now
- 21:20but this is the championship game so i'm not
- 21:24going to go to bed um but yeah i mean that's
- 21:31i mean that's kind of it um now we're We're getting
- 21:36down. What when's the draft? When's the NFL draft?
- 21:40Is that like? at the end of this month a couple
- 21:42weeks a couple weeks, it's I Think it's at the
- 21:47end of this month. Yeah the 24th Yes, the 24th
- 21:55through the 26th is that a Thursday Yeah, yeah
- 22:01starts Thursday it goes through Sunday All right,
- 22:05you just pulled a week a day of the week out
- 22:07of the yeah, how'd you know? How'd you do that?
- 22:11Well if you must know It's because WrestleMania
- 22:14is April 19th and 20th. That's a Saturday Sunday
- 22:18and then Sunday plus four is Thursday That was
- 22:26great Sunday plus four start doing that Yeah,
- 22:38I've just never heard it like laid out like Sunday
- 22:43plus four I mean You're right. I'm not saying
- 22:49you're wrong. You're just a funny way of explaining
- 22:51it. Yeah and then you know, my fiance's birthday
- 22:55is the the 19th, so Right whose birthday is the
- 23:0020th? Yeah, that's cool That's really only real
- 23:09history buffs know that yeah, it's true the cool
- 23:14ones April 20th, um, but yeah, I mean like I
- 23:22think we're getting into you know peak like Stephen
- 23:28a and Chan and sharp rhyming things to say Lakers
- 23:31in 5. Truth be, I do love those memes. It's incredibly
- 23:37entertaining. What is it, Chris? Well, before
- 23:42I go into the latest Stephen A. Shannon kerfuffle,
- 23:48we need to talk about Ovi. Yes. 895. Yes. Yeah.
- 23:53Will and I have a little bit we're going to do.
- 23:56It's not a joke bit, but it's a question. So,
- 24:01I guess we can go into that now. Yes, Alexander
- 24:06Ovechkin, greatest goal scorer of all time. Yeah,
- 24:09definitely. What's the question? Okay, the question
- 24:14is that the NHL network panelists came out with
- 24:19their Mount Rushmore of NHLers. Does Ovechkin
- 24:25deserve to be on the Mount Rushmore? Yeah, I
- 24:31don't see see I think you can make the case that
- 24:34he can respectfully be left off though I I do
- 24:38agree that it feels wrong to have the all -time
- 24:42leader and goals off of Mount Rushmore But when
- 24:46you have players like Wayne Gretzky Gordie Howe
- 24:51Lemieux Who's the other one will Bobby or Bobby
- 24:56or gifts like when you have players like that,
- 25:01it's hard to replace one of those with Ovechkin.
- 25:07I mean, I'm not a hockey whiz, so someone could
- 25:10probably easily poke holes in this argument,
- 25:12but I would put him in over Lemieux, just because
- 25:16Lemieux's career, he was incredible, though you're
- 25:19wrong, his career wasn't that long, and Ovechkin
- 25:22has spanned two decades, and he's the all -time
- 25:26leader in goals. I think he deserves, I'm not
- 25:28saying Lemieux isn't one of the greatest of all
- 25:30time, but I think if we're talking the four best,
- 25:33I would put OVN over Lemieux. That was my point
- 25:41last night when we were talking about this. Because
- 25:46I feel like Wayne obviously has to be OVN. Like
- 25:50that is like a given. Gordie Howe, I feel like
- 25:57has to be on there. That man played feels like
- 26:00into his 70s. Bobby Orr, probably the greatest
- 26:08defenseman of all time. You have to have a D
- 26:11on Mount Rushmore. So it does kind of come down
- 26:15to Lemieux versus Ovi. And it does feel wrong
- 26:20to leave the all -time leader in goals. off of
- 26:24the the amount of killers yeah i um i'm in the
- 26:31Lemieux camp just because his career was shorter
- 26:37than most um but he's what he did in that short
- 26:47span is incredible like if you really look at
- 26:51the numbers his points per game is higher than
- 26:56than Wayne Gretzky's and Wayne wasn't like a
- 26:59pushover when he was you know getting to the
- 27:02end of his end of his career like he wasn't putting
- 27:05up like bad numbers but when you kind of look
- 27:10at it objectively it's like if Lemieux All right,
- 27:21a little bit of a casualty on the panel here
- 27:24Coffee, but if you look at it objectively If
- 27:30Lemieux didn't get cancer like he would be the
- 27:35all -time leader in points like that's I mean,
- 27:38I can't say that that's a fact obviously because
- 27:41it didn't happen but It's kind of like when you
- 27:44look at it objectively. He has a higher points
- 27:47per game than what then Wayne Gretzky and like
- 27:51even when he came back from when he had cancer
- 27:55he was still dominant like it's it's uh it's
- 28:00incredibly hard i definitely don't i don't not
- 28:04respect if you don't if you put ovi on there
- 28:07instead of lamu um like i i fully get it but
- 28:12like in terms of mine it's kind of like that's
- 28:16that's what i got because Mean still to this
- 28:19day people are like who's the greatest and Everyone
- 28:24says Wayne But if you ask someone for Pittsburgh,
- 28:27they always say Lemieux because Lemieux's I mean
- 28:32Bias aside like the numbers support that claim
- 28:36And then even everyone who says Wayne Wayne is
- 28:39the best Lemieux's number two like that's that's
- 28:44kind of Like you're like already in the conversation
- 28:49of of top two players of all time. That's that's
- 28:55that's just the way I see it. But but yeah, that's
- 28:59that's kind of what me and Sean got into last
- 29:01night. But yeah. One thing I heard someone say,
- 29:06I think it was on on TV, I forget who it was
- 29:08exactly, said if like. Take out the covid year
- 29:13and then what year was the lockout shortened
- 29:16season? 2003 Well, there there was a somewhat
- 29:24more recent one wasn't there like in the last
- 29:2610 like 10 or 15 years. I Want to say maybe 2008
- 29:312007, maybe I don't remember. Yeah, I thought
- 29:33it was on Like I can look it up while you you
- 29:36talk. Okay 2012 13. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah I was gonna
- 29:40say I thought it was in the teens or but yeah,
- 29:44if you Say like they played those seasons in
- 29:48full, oh, we could have well over a thousand
- 29:51goals. Oh, for sure. Yeah. So, and I, I don't
- 29:56want to be playing like the what if game because
- 29:58obviously shit happens, but like that's just
- 30:01wild. Like he could have done this two, two,
- 30:05three years ago. If it wasn't for a pandemic
- 30:09and a lockout short in season. Yeah. I mean,
- 30:13honestly, if we play the what if game, we could
- 30:15be here all night. Oh, yeah. Well, what if, what
- 30:20if Ovi and Wayne played at the same, you know,
- 30:22you know what I mean? Like we could play, we
- 30:24could, we could play this game, but we have to
- 30:27be realistic about it. You know, like. Okay.
- 30:31So we have to, we have to have what they did
- 30:35and what their accomplishments are. So. Yeah.
- 30:41I think, I think he scored this like one more
- 30:45goal. Of etchkin in one in the same amount of
- 30:52games that one thing is one less wasn't yeah.
- 30:55Yeah That's a fact and that's that's great on
- 30:59its own, you know The only I Mean the only asterisks
- 31:08I can think of when you when you put that I mean,
- 31:10I don't know if the NHL was always 82 games back
- 31:14in the 80s but um the only the only asterix that
- 31:19you could i guess put in ovechkin's favor is
- 31:22i mean like halfway through the 2000s they they
- 31:27they got rid of the uh uh that the uh the game's
- 31:33ending in ties so and they had a over wait a
- 31:36minute no they just added the shootout and those
- 31:39aren't statistics never mind yeah Sorry. They've
- 31:44had 82 games. They've had 82 games since, uh,
- 31:4795. Okay. So, I mean, I guess he's, they've had,
- 31:54I guess he's had more chances to score, but it's
- 31:56still the same amount of games, you know? Does
- 32:00that, does that not making sense? Oh yeah. Definitely.
- 32:03I mean, they, I mean, when they moved to 82,
- 32:07they moved from 82 to eight or 80 to 82. Oh.
- 32:11Well, that's they did I thought it was 70. I
- 32:14mean now I just I I I did just look it up They
- 32:20haven't played 70 games since like the 50s like
- 32:2450 fucking really yikes, okay Fuck I guess So
- 32:36it's like to bring it back to the Mount Rushmore
- 32:39thing When I when I think of Mount Rushmore,
- 32:42it's like who are the best players You know like
- 32:47not just the best You know like Wayne's not on
- 32:50there because he's the greatest playmaker Although
- 32:54if he never scored a goal, he'd still be the
- 32:58all -time leader in points, which is a stupid
- 33:03stat That's something that nobody will fucking
- 33:06touch So it's it's kind of like that's just like
- 33:12kind of like the way I see it like all of the
- 33:15players are like lots more like well -rounded
- 33:19and I mean like Bobby or revolutionized the the
- 33:24defenseman position and like if you look at his
- 33:26numbers, holy shit like He was scoring a hundred
- 33:31points Like every season for like six or seven
- 33:35straight seasons as a defenseman and that's insane
- 33:40But but yeah, I mean that's that's kind of my
- 33:43take And if nobody else has anything to add I
- 33:50can transition this Back to Stephen a and Shannon
- 33:54sharp. Okay. Yeah. Well, well, I okay. Sorry.
- 33:58All right. No, you're good So the NHL network
- 34:02they're they're analysts Pretty much all have
- 34:06consistent it's either It's Wayne and Bobby.
- 34:10That's like they're consistent. Corey Schneider
- 34:15has Wayne, Martin Brodeur, Lemieux, and Bobby
- 34:21Orr, which he's the only one that has Martin
- 34:25Brodeur on his list, which could be fair, I guess.
- 34:31He's really got them all. He's got all positions
- 34:35covered. I get it. I do have kind of a thought
- 34:39about that, but I might go off on a tangent.
- 34:41So just keep going. Oh yeah. Gordie Howe is pretty
- 34:47consistent in these. He's in five out of the
- 34:50six as well. He's Mr. Hockey. The sport was named
- 34:56after him. People forget that. He does have a
- 35:03hat trick named after him. But the only ones
- 35:08that really intertwine or are interchangeable
- 35:12are OV and Lemieux. So it's very on the fence
- 35:17for me. I'm very on the fence about who should
- 35:20be on there. Let's just add another president
- 35:26to Mount Rushmore and we'll have this problem
- 35:29solved. Think about all the arguments, all the
- 35:34Mount Rushmore arguments you could have about
- 35:37everything if they added one more. They just
- 35:40added one more, dude. Be easy. We could do that.
- 35:43We have the technology. Who's the number five
- 35:47ketchup brand? I shouldn't even name three, if
- 35:52I'm being perfectly honest. What's the number
- 35:57five? ranked Left -handed pitcher. I don't know
- 36:04you got it. You got it. Whatever whatever Do
- 36:08you know what I mean? All right back to what
- 36:11I was saying first I just want to say that I
- 36:17love that PK Subban is on like first take or
- 36:21the like these whatever Whatever the hell these
- 36:24these morning talk shows are called nowadays
- 36:27because I don't watch them. Um, I have a fucking
- 36:29job so um I uh, I love it because like he actually
- 36:35like knows hockey because he was a hockey player
- 36:40and uh Yeah, he they were they were they brought
- 36:44it up like like the day after ovi got the record
- 36:48and they were like Who who was more feared? in
- 36:52The playoffs or just like a more feared individual.
- 36:56Wait, no, it was who was the most durable LeBron
- 36:59or Ovi and PK. Just. Gave a master class on why
- 37:06Ovi is way more durable than than LeBron James
- 37:09and. Stephen A and Shannon were just not having
- 37:14it when it's pretty clear that like. Like he
- 37:18he's only missed 35 games. in 20 years of being
- 37:22in the NHL. LeBron James has missed quite a number
- 37:27more. And you know, injuries happen and I get
- 37:30it. But when you're talking about durability,
- 37:32it's like, that's it, you know? That's it, Chris.
- 37:38I don't know if this goes into his durability,
- 37:43but more of like his just overall toughness.
- 37:46Alexander Ovechkin broke his leg this year. Oh,
- 37:51yeah, he did do that. And he came back. And scored
- 37:55and broke the record. I think that alone, again,
- 38:00I don't know if that makes him more durable,
- 38:02because I guess if you're more durable, you would
- 38:04just never get hurt. But it makes him more just
- 38:07of like a. Like a competitor, like a bad motherfucker
- 38:13by like like broke his fucking leg this year
- 38:17and he broke the all time goal record. That's
- 38:20insane. The conversation was what's more impressive,
- 38:28LeBron's scoring title or Ovi's? They had the
- 38:31durable one too. I didn't watch either. I just
- 38:34saw the clips on Twitter. I refused to watch
- 38:36them because the first take just hurts my head
- 38:40these days. I just can't do it anymore. I'm too
- 38:44old for that. I mean, I think I think both of
- 38:51those kind of went into each other because Yeah,
- 38:54I mean clearly like, you know, both of those
- 38:57like titles or it took them their entire career
- 39:00and they're they're fucking 40 like Like and
- 39:05so it's it is kind of like what is a bigger deal
- 39:08I guess and durability is kind of a factor in
- 39:11that but it's just like dude when you talk about
- 39:15the longevity of each player's career. Like,
- 39:19yeah, LeBron takes care of his body and, you
- 39:23know, shit like that. But when it comes down
- 39:25to the games that are being played, like hockey,
- 39:29by definition, is way more physical. And Ovi's
- 39:33the one dishing it out. But he's also, you know,
- 39:35taking it because he's Ovechkin. He's a star.
- 39:37Like, that's just what happens to the stars.
- 39:39Yeah. And like, they just weren't having it.
- 39:42Like, Stephen A and Shannon, they just weren't
- 39:44listening. Well, I mean, because I think I've
- 39:47seen more hockey games this season, like four,
- 39:51it's Stephen AC in his entire life. So he just
- 39:54doesn't give a shit. You could probably say the
- 39:56same thing for Shannon and Shannon is just a
- 39:58LeBron meat rider. But, um, I just very glad
- 40:03that they decided to tackle the issue of how
- 40:06Ovi breaking when Gretzky's record affected LeBron's
- 40:09legacy. Hats off to them. It has to impact his
- 40:15legacy somehow. Everything does. That's an excellent
- 40:22point, Chris. I hate them. I hate first takes
- 40:26so fucking much. It's the worst. How does Alejandro
- 40:33Ovechkin's goal scoring record impact LeBron's
- 40:36legacy? They did that. Essentially did that.
- 40:39Like, that's been a meme since we were like in
- 40:42high school. pretty much, but they actually did
- 40:46it. I love it. Yeah, but I do want to say, you
- 40:51know, hats off to PK. I mean, just laying it
- 40:56out there. I mean, it's all factual. I mean,
- 41:00yeah, hockey's a physical game. He did that earlier
- 41:03this year, too, where he went on first take and
- 41:06kind of shed all over him. Oh yeah, in the Four
- 41:10Nations. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where like Wasn't
- 41:15his argument is like these guys don't miss games.
- 41:18Like that's that was is another like durability
- 41:21kind of thing Wasn't that his argument as well.
- 41:25It was something like that like a part of it
- 41:28it felt like he was more just saying they have
- 41:30more like heart and like Dedication to the game
- 41:34then he didn't obviously come out and say that
- 41:36but it felt like though He was kind of dancing
- 41:38around that point. Yeah. Well, it was like a
- 41:4013 -minute rant Like uninterrupted, right? Yeah,
- 41:44he is right. He's not wrong. It is it is sad
- 41:51that I did look it up that LeBron has missed
- 41:54169 games in his NBA career, which is still great.
- 41:59Yeah, for that long of a career, you know, 71
- 42:02in his first 15 seasons and 98 in the last five.
- 42:07So you can really tell that time is taking a
- 42:11toll. the man for sure, but Yeah, it's just like
- 42:17NBA players don't care as much Yeah Well, I mean
- 42:25it makes sense a little bit cuz you know if you're
- 42:29if you're with the Charlotte Hornets What what
- 42:32are you playing? What are you playing for you
- 42:34know what I mean like? What are you doing? You're
- 42:37just bad chasing Yeah, that first three months
- 42:42is pretty good, but then after that, it's like,
- 42:46all right. We know who we are. We don't have
- 42:50to... We don't have to, I guess, try as much.
- 42:55And you hate to say that, but... Yeah, and I
- 42:59think the NBA... I think Silver's talking about
- 43:03shortening the games as well to 40 minutes. Who
- 43:10cares? Like, what's that gonna do? Yeah, I don't
- 43:15know. I think they're hoping to get more eyes
- 43:19on it because, you know, to watch a 60 -minute
- 43:23game takes three hours. Shave it down to two,
- 43:29I guess. I feel like every sport, for the most
- 43:33part, takes roughly three hours. Yeah, it does.
- 43:38It's three at like what do we do? Yeah, like
- 43:41you can't sit on the couch and watch TV for three
- 43:44hours God no You do it for a lot longer than
- 43:51that I can do it a lot longer than that pretty
- 43:55much kind of did that today But yeah, there's
- 44:01a lot of things in the NBA I just don't Really
- 44:05care about I don't yeah I don't care. And I can't,
- 44:09I can't really say like how they can fix it because
- 44:12I don't watch it. So I couldn't tell you what
- 44:14exactly is wrong with it. I just don't care about
- 44:16it. Yeah, it's, it's weird. Like I, um, I heard
- 44:25someone on a podcast one time, like an NBA player
- 44:27on a podcast one time talk about players caring
- 44:30and like, there's some statistic where it's like,
- 44:35if you, if you are like, Above the height of
- 44:39six five your your chances of making the NBA
- 44:43are like Something like thirty percent something
- 44:47like that. All you got to do is really like put
- 44:48in the work but like you have the height and
- 44:51that's like a Big old part of it. It's not all
- 44:55of it. You gotta make your shots but still, you
- 44:58know, it's it's kind of like When you see that
- 45:01and you're just a dude, that's like six six and
- 45:05you're like I am tall If I learn how to shoot
- 45:09the ball and dunk it and play this game, someone
- 45:14will draft me. I'll get my college paid for,
- 45:18because I'll play college ball. And now with
- 45:22NIL, it's like, now I can make a little money
- 45:24doing it. And then I can go to the NBA, make
- 45:26even more money. And yeah, that's kind of it.
- 45:35You know, I don't want to say it's a problem,
- 45:36but it is kind of a problem but like that dude
- 45:39on that podcast was like yeah, there is a number
- 45:41of of dudes in the league that just don't Like
- 45:47like there aren't in love with the game of basketball
- 45:49like like most of the stars are But they're great,
- 45:55you know Like maybe a level starter or like off
- 45:59the bench and it's kind of like dudes off the
- 46:01bench are making 20 million dollars, you know
- 46:04And so it's like, if you can come off the bench
- 46:07in an NBA game and make a bag, do it, you know?
- 46:13Yeah, I was going to say that. Like, yeah, like
- 46:15the seventh man off the bench is making generational
- 46:18wealth. Why would you care that much? Like, it's
- 46:24like, OK, I can go out here, kind of just run
- 46:26through the motions like I'm going to play for
- 46:28like 10 minutes, maybe. But I'm still gonna get
- 46:32like 20 million dollars. Like why should I? Like
- 46:35you're paying me already for not giving like
- 46:40a hundred percent Why should I just start now
- 46:44that I that you're already paying me? Yeah, it
- 46:48and it's like You know from a an entertainment
- 46:53product it's kind of like dude you want you want
- 46:55people to care, you know, like if you don't care
- 46:58about hockey and you're in the NHL you're not
- 47:01in the NHL. Like that's, that's just how it works.
- 47:05Like you have to fucking care. Even if you're,
- 47:09if you're a first line player all the way down
- 47:11to the fourth line, it's like your fourth line
- 47:12player, you, you better care a lot, you know,
- 47:15like you, you got to care more. Cause you're
- 47:17not very good. And so I hate, you know, it's,
- 47:23I hate that that's an issue, you know, um, coming
- 47:27from just like a sports fan perspective, but
- 47:32it's There's also like a I think it was JJ reddick.
- 47:36He went on like a podcast and was talking about
- 47:38how people Like don't like to watch the NBA anymore
- 47:43because now it's just a three -point shooting
- 47:45contest and it's kind of like well if you think
- 47:50about it the league has never been in a place
- 47:52where Where players just lace up threes? And
- 47:58and so like this is this is not only new for
- 48:01the players, but everyone else as well and It's
- 48:05it's not a matter of a fact that there's less
- 48:07defense. It's just the players are better at
- 48:10offense You know, you can only do so much on
- 48:14defense But you can there's so many different
- 48:17ways to score the basket, you know and so it's
- 48:22basketball is in like a weird spot just from
- 48:24like an outsider's perspective, but But yeah,
- 48:27it's it's our it's very hard to care about about
- 48:31about basketball about the NBA that is And yeah,
- 48:38I mean we're gonna loosely cover it as the the
- 48:42the NBA playoffs are going but But yeah, I mean
- 48:49right now it's It's it's slowly turning into
- 48:52I mean the NHL seasons coming down to the I think
- 48:55we only have like a week or two left and then
- 48:57playoffs start I mean our team isn't fucking
- 49:00in it, but I think it's I think it's less because
- 49:02the last Fred's home game was last night Yeah,
- 49:06like it's probably like next week. I don't know
- 49:09but you know, we'll loosely cover that as well
- 49:13along with All the other sports bullshit that
- 49:16we talk about They usually watch the NHL playoffs
- 49:20Yeah, because aren't in it usually get bounced
- 49:23first round anyway, so Right and I do have two
- 49:29units on the Oilers to win the Stanley Cup that
- 49:32I placed like at the beginning of the season
- 49:34so I Do have something to watch and Chris was
- 49:40that like the the Houston loss was that like
- 49:43the closest you've had to a future like coming
- 49:47down to the wire Yeah, I don't think I've ever
- 49:50placed a feature and have my team or and have
- 49:52that team even make the championship really even
- 49:55get close. I'm not really like a huge futures
- 49:58guy. Like usually I'll take a few. Like I'll
- 50:01do some of the tournaments. It's fun. But like
- 50:03I never really do like season long. I'll do like
- 50:05win totals in college football, but I don't really
- 50:07do like championship futures. But of like the
- 50:10five or six I've ever placed. Yeah, that was
- 50:12far and away the closest I've ever come to hitting
- 50:14one. Yeah, it. It hurts, don't it? That was brutal,
- 50:20man. Like I said, I was legitimately upset over
- 50:28that. It sucked. It was pretty brutal last year
- 50:32when the Oilers was almost completed a reverse
- 50:37sweep and made it to game seven and then lost.
- 50:41That was very, very difficult. that team especially
- 50:49last year like that team they they were like
- 50:53one of the last teams in the NHL last year and
- 50:57then like they just went on a monster heater
- 50:59and made the playoffs made the finals lost the
- 51:04first three games and then won the next three
- 51:07games wild and then lost in game seven that was
- 51:12a that's the definition of a roller coaster Have
- 51:17you seen I'm sure you have seen the video of
- 51:19like the locker room the others locker room after
- 51:21they lost game seven Yeah, I mean, um, I saw
- 51:25a little clip of it and I know that It's like
- 51:28some TV series that's on Amazon Prime. I think
- 51:31that I keep forgetting to watch Game said yeah.
- 51:36Oh Is it really yeah, I didn't know that I knew
- 51:39it was a TV thing I didn't know what it was.
- 51:41Yes, there was some Amazon Prime thing that came
- 51:44out that followed like Connor McDavid I think
- 51:49like Austin Matthews like Philip Forsberg Postronach
- 51:53and a couple other NHLers and I followed them
- 51:59for like the whole season and then you know went
- 52:01in and out as the Season progressed but Yeah,
- 52:07that's that's something I keep forgetting that
- 52:09exists and that I thought I need to watch But
- 52:14yeah I mean, do we have anything else? I mean,
- 52:18how's baseball Chris? All right Yeah, I'm yeah
- 52:29again, thank you transgender for keep like I
- 52:31said, keep me at my head above water, but Yeah,
- 52:34I've not been great betting wise but At least
- 52:39the Reds are entertaining They suck I can't remember
- 52:44if we talked about this last time. I think it
- 52:48was about this time last week. The Reds were
- 52:50on a historic losing streak. They had lost. They
- 52:53were the second team since 1920 to lose three
- 52:56straight games, one to nothing. Ah. Well, they've
- 53:00had worst historic losing streaks. Oh, let's
- 53:05be clear about that. Yeah, but to not it when
- 53:08they lost 20, whatever that was in a row a few
- 53:11years ago. They were at least scoring some runs
- 53:14in these losses. Not very many, but at least,
- 53:18you know, one to hell, sometimes even three.
- 53:23I mean, to lose three straight, they went thirty
- 53:26six innings without scoring a run. That's they
- 53:30were like a few away from the record. Jesus,
- 53:35what's the record? That's rough. I think it's
- 53:36thirty eight, thirty nine. No, no. The Cubs said
- 53:39it way back in the 60s, I think. I think it was
- 53:42the Cubs. But yeah, it's just they're all right.
- 53:47They're up right now. Time by one. Yeah, they
- 53:51were up five to one. It's six to five. They were
- 53:53up four. It's a fucking team. I have the Giants
- 53:57in a money line parlay. I don't care. The trend
- 54:03center pick, and I just parlayed all their money
- 54:06line winners. Uh, they had like three, the Reds
- 54:10are just, there are means they are a means to
- 54:14an end. They are here to keep me somewhat entertained
- 54:16throughout the summer. If you can get me as close
- 54:21to football season while being entertained as
- 54:23possible. That's all I can ask. And then when
- 54:27you're not, you can watch the league. Yeah. But
- 54:33yeah, love them. All right, I Did remember a
- 54:39story that I don't think either of you guys heard
- 54:43Or you might have heard it, but uh, but I'll
- 54:46go ahead and tell it it So did you guys see that?
- 54:51Tortorella got fired. Yeah, so He he was talking
- 54:59to the GM of the flyers and the GM was like do
- 55:04you Do you even want to coach this team? And
- 55:07he said, no. And then they fired him. And this
- 55:12came after he got into like a fuck you match
- 55:16with Cam Ward. No, not Cam Ward, Cam York. He
- 55:22was like a young defenseman that the Flyers have.
- 55:25And he got in like a fuck you match. And you
- 55:30know, after he like Flubbed a pass and like the
- 55:34first period of a game because torts is a psycho
- 55:36and then like in the intermission they had they
- 55:41were yelling at each other and And can York this
- 55:46isn't a quote but he said something to the effect
- 55:48of at least I'm going to be around here longer
- 55:51than you are and Then he got benched for yeah,
- 55:56he got benched for the rest of the game and then
- 55:58they fired him right after the game Which I think
- 56:02is kind of hilarious that is very funny. Do you
- 56:05think that we're gonna coach again? Yeah Because
- 56:10I mean the way hockey is it's a boys club it's
- 56:15very tough to break into that especially when
- 56:19you have You know all these all these great college
- 56:23coaches looking to make the next step but It's
- 56:29just like he He's such an old school guy. And
- 56:36there's I've heard the the guys on the the the
- 56:41spit and trickle podcast. No free shout out.
- 56:45They talk about it. There's like two types of
- 56:46coaches. There's players coaches and then there's
- 56:51not players coaches. And those are your hard
- 56:54asses. Your players coaches are the guys that
- 56:57you love to play for because they're cool guys
- 57:00like Like John Cooper, he's a cool guy, you know,
- 57:05like after they won the four nation face off,
- 57:07John Cooper was just like, yeah, man, you know,
- 57:09this is, uh, this is really cool. You know, um,
- 57:13glad the, the players did it. You know, this
- 57:15is, uh, this is a great experience, but it's
- 57:18like, dude, a hard ass coach would just be like,
- 57:20you know, that's like Dan Hurley. Like they're
- 57:23kind of psychos, you know, they're old school.
- 57:26They're going to bag skate you if you You may
- 57:29if you miss a pass if you if you give up a two
- 57:32-on -one like Then there's always gonna be dudes
- 57:35like that in the NHL Because typically when When
- 57:41a player's coach is fired because they're not
- 57:43good they hire they hire one of these old -school
- 57:45guys to come over and take in and whip them into
- 57:48shape and then if One of the you know, the hard
- 57:53-ass coaches are fired. They bring in a player's
- 57:55coach To kind of ease them up a little bit relax
- 57:59them and put them on the right path The vicious
- 58:03cycle yes, it is just cycle so he's not like
- 58:10he doesn't play like mental warfare with with
- 58:13players from I mean I just guess from just like
- 58:16what I've heard he's just like a hard ass, but
- 58:18I mean he's not like Babcock or Mike Keenan Those
- 58:23guys are those guys are scumbags He doesn't do
- 58:27that, which is good. What do you guys think if
- 58:33they fire the Predators coach and we bring in
- 58:36torts? No. No. No. Not really. I do want to say,
- 58:44though, I love imagining Cam York just hitting
- 58:49the jerry from the last dance. Like escort is
- 58:55walking out, just like... Well, would you look
- 58:59at that? Look at that. But no, I don't know who's
- 59:05gonna replace Burnett. I feel it coming. Yeah,
- 59:10I feel like they're gonna fire him. In this off
- 59:12season, I feel it coming. How long? It's kind
- 59:14of like when you're this bad, someone has to
- 59:16be fired. Someone's gotta be fired. With the
- 59:19roster we have, with the money we spent. Someone's
- 59:23got to go and it ain't going to be Barry. I was
- 59:27about to ask how long do you think Barry's got?
- 59:30Because I think I respect him for taking a big
- 59:32old swing, but. Damn, did he miss? Yeah, I think
- 59:36if we're both missed on one. I mean, what do
- 59:40you miss? The players or the coach? I guess you
- 59:44could say both. I was talking about the players,
- 59:48though. I mean, you spent how like the most money
- 59:50of anyone and. The league and your third from
- 59:55the bottom. I believe yeah, I mean Yeah, Burnett
- 59:59will get fired before trots, but I think trots
- 1:00:03has to wear some of this. Oh Yeah, I mean well
- 1:00:06to me. I'm sorry. Well, go ahead. I mean like
- 1:00:09all the players we signed they're all like 34
- 1:00:12like 34 33 32 like they're past their kind of
- 1:00:18prime, you know Yeah, and you know, I hate to
- 1:00:23you know, talk about players like they're their
- 1:00:25objects, but They're not humans. But at the same
- 1:00:28time it's like dude They're thought the players
- 1:00:33aren't play it, you know, and that's you know,
- 1:00:37partially on the coach and It's it's just so
- 1:00:40weird the way that it's it's shaking out like
- 1:00:45Like I I hate it because like I went into this
- 1:00:48season with so much hope So much hope. But, you
- 1:00:54know, it's the hope that kills you, as we all
- 1:00:59know, as Tennessee sports fans. I don't want
- 1:01:02to have hope. Yeah. Costanza. My goal is to be
- 1:01:06completely hopeless. Right. And it's just like.
- 1:01:14Barry's got to wear this, but also like when
- 1:01:18it's. It's when the players aren't playing. That's
- 1:01:22a telltale sign. That it's it's the coach. You
- 1:01:26know. You can't. You can't make a bad player
- 1:01:31a good player, but you can make a good player
- 1:01:33a great player and that's you know, that's that's
- 1:01:36how a coach works. And he had great players.
- 1:01:42Add that a little bit of passive prime, but I
- 1:01:44mean Stanco scored 40 goals last year, you know.
- 1:01:48The granted he scored like two last night, but
- 1:01:51um almost three he almost got a hat trick last
- 1:01:55night if it wasn't tipped in Yeah In he may not
- 1:02:01even break 30 And it's it's just like the players
- 1:02:07aren't playing and they're old and So it's kind
- 1:02:12of on both of them, but it's you know, I Think
- 1:02:16this is Barry's first year Well, he was like
- 1:02:21the didn't they bring him in like two years ago,
- 1:02:25but Yeah, he was like not like the fish was he
- 1:02:30I thought it was some sort of like weird transition
- 1:02:32thing where Poyle was like still kind of around
- 1:02:35But trots was also there and I was almost shadowing
- 1:02:39him. Yeah, I didn't know who was actually the
- 1:02:41general manager that time So I don't know if
- 1:02:45that counts That was a that was they they brought
- 1:02:50in trots like a couple of weeks before the trade
- 1:02:54deadline and we're like hey this guy's gonna
- 1:02:57take over for Poyle at the like right after the
- 1:03:01draft that'll be his last thing as GM and so
- 1:03:04for now he's just gonna you know be with me and
- 1:03:07I'm gonna show him the ropes and then that's
- 1:03:09when Poyle traded Juno for a laundry list of
- 1:03:14picks so It's a it's weird. It's kind of like
- 1:03:23Trots still has Plenty of assets to work with.
- 1:03:26I mean we have three first -round picks in this
- 1:03:28next NHL draft Though the two extra ones we have
- 1:03:33aren't that great because it's Vegas and Tampa,
- 1:03:37but I mean as long as Neither of them win the
- 1:03:42cup. Maybe one of them goes out first round then
- 1:03:45that's gonna be like a 16 or 17 number pick and
- 1:03:50that's still pretty good I will say about the
- 1:03:55players you know the players that we signed they've
- 1:03:59played in specific systems for a long amount
- 1:04:04of time like a tenured amount of time especially
- 1:04:07like Stamco's you can make the argument for per
- 1:04:11se but he's kind of moved around Marchesot has
- 1:04:15obviously moved around, but I don't know if that
- 1:04:20has anything to do with it as well, just playing
- 1:04:22in one system or like a variation of one system.
- 1:04:26I know coaches and GMs go throughout a player's
- 1:04:30tenure with the team, but I'm not saying that
- 1:04:35I think we give Burnett another year, but I feel
- 1:04:38like that could have been part of like their
- 1:04:41slump is adapting. to a new team now granted
- 1:04:45that it has taken them 70 plus games to get over
- 1:04:49this this slump is not cool like you're a professional
- 1:04:55you should have uh you should have probably figured
- 1:04:57this out with the but also that kind of is like
- 1:05:01if you don't really have a great coach then you
- 1:05:04can't really learn the system the way you need
- 1:05:07to i guess Was Marsha so he was with Florida
- 1:05:12before Vegas, right? So Tampa, right? He was
- 1:05:16he was with Florida Florida, but before that
- 1:05:18he was with Tampa. Okay. Did he ever do anything
- 1:05:21with Florida or Tampa? Yes. Was he like, okay,
- 1:05:24I didn't know I guess obviously he was left unprotected
- 1:05:27doesn't the expansion draft so I didn't know
- 1:05:28if he was like I Obviously he was good, but I
- 1:05:32didn't know if he was like This kind of player
- 1:05:36that he was in Vegas so That's a whole other
- 1:05:41tangent. We don't have to get into it. He scored
- 1:05:4530 goals the year that the season before Vegas
- 1:05:50took him. Oh wow, okay. They didn't even take
- 1:05:54Marciusot. This is what Vegas did. Florida paid
- 1:06:00them, paid Vegas to take Riley Smith because
- 1:06:05they threw in Marciusot. Yeah So that's like
- 1:06:11a yeah, tray tray and it was a trick considerations
- 1:06:16Like they like Vegas wanted to take someone else
- 1:06:19that was that was left unprotected and they were
- 1:06:22like What if what if we give you these two players
- 1:06:25instead? They paid they paid Vegas March to sew
- 1:06:33in order for Vegas to take Riley Smith When you
- 1:06:39say they paid them is this What do you mean like
- 1:06:42they threw March or so in for that or they yes
- 1:06:45gave them money on top? Okay Are you talking
- 1:06:47currency or draft picks or players? players March
- 1:06:53or so is the He's the yes So they wanted to take
- 1:06:59someone else and then Florida was like, how about
- 1:07:02you take Riley Smith and March or so instead?
- 1:07:08That's interesting. I didn't know that I thought
- 1:07:09they just yeah picked him. No, that's Yeah, and
- 1:07:14that happened with a couple of these guys That
- 1:07:18happened with a couple of different teams where
- 1:07:21Vegas was paid in like Like a a couple of picks
- 1:07:26to take this guy instead of this guy From a certain
- 1:07:30team that they did that a couple of times But
- 1:07:34but yeah, I mean Marcia so like when you talk
- 1:07:39about the systems as well they're like yeah they're
- 1:07:43with like teams for quite a while but also like
- 1:07:46you know shea was in new york as a ranger and
- 1:07:53you know i don't know how many head coaches he
- 1:07:55had because he wasn't on the team when they were
- 1:07:58great you know um and when the team isn't great
- 1:08:01you know they kind of cycle head coaches and
- 1:08:03i mean vegas had i think it took them three different
- 1:08:07head coaches in order to win the Stanley Cup.
- 1:08:10And Marcel was there for all of it. So it is
- 1:08:13kind of like, yeah, they were in their systems.
- 1:08:16I mean, Stamkos is really the only one who's
- 1:08:18been in a consistent system for years. But, but
- 1:08:24yeah. But yeah, we suck. I don't know when the
- 1:08:30NHL draft is. There's a there's a chance we get
- 1:08:33the first overall pick. There's a chance Because
- 1:08:38we've pretty much locked up the third to last
- 1:08:40spot But if we can get the first or second pick
- 1:08:45I mean even the third pick even if we stay we're
- 1:08:48gonna get a real good player Hopefully, um This
- 1:08:54could be a dumb question Do we saw that Russian
- 1:08:57goalie that we drafted few years ago like Asgarov
- 1:09:00or something? No, I didn't think so We traded
- 1:09:05him to San Jose This offseason. Yeah, okay. That's
- 1:09:10why we have three I thought he wasn't so on the
- 1:09:12team, but I didn't know for sure. That's yeah
- 1:09:15the sharks the sharks gave up a First round pick
- 1:09:20that was that's owned by Vegas Okay, mm -hmm
- 1:09:25and we got another process That trade was so
- 1:09:30long ago. We got one of their pretty good prospects
- 1:09:33David enstrom. Yes, that's him. Yeah. Oh, before
- 1:09:39we go here, because I do have to wrap this up,
- 1:09:40we I was mistaken last week. The frozen four
- 1:09:45begins today as you're listening to this Thursday.
- 1:09:51Because I mean, we I talked at length about it
- 1:09:54last week. Yeah, I don't I don't know. I thought
- 1:09:58it was I thought it was last week. I don't know.
- 1:10:01I don't know what I was thinking. I'll put a
- 1:10:04hand up on that too, because I had like the ESPN
- 1:10:06app in front of me. Me too. I mean like, oh yeah,
- 1:10:09these games, it says Thursday. Tomorrow is the
- 1:10:11only Thursday. I remember, I think it was last
- 1:10:16Saturday or something. I was like, oh shit, I
- 1:10:18think the Frozen 4 is like, it's like going on
- 1:10:22right now. What happened? I'll get back and check
- 1:10:24it like, oh, we're a week away. Awesome. Yeah,
- 1:10:27I was like, I kind of swore it was this week.
- 1:10:31But no, it's it's it's today as you're listening
- 1:10:34to this on Thursday. So Yeah, so Ryan with Denver
- 1:10:39Denver Let's go Denver. Let's go nears. Yeah
- 1:10:44Through a unit on Penn State because they're
- 1:10:47a fun team and I think they can be BU and make
- 1:10:50to make it to the championship game. So That's
- 1:10:54a that's all I got I am I've seen a bunch of
- 1:10:58noise about Western Michigan um how they're super
- 1:11:00hot right now uh it could upset denver uh trying
- 1:11:04not to think about it um and get in my head about
- 1:11:07it because it's too late it's too late i can't
- 1:11:11i can't i can't go back on this um but yeah that's
- 1:11:18uh i mean that's all i got we already did the
- 1:11:21preview last week so watch watch last week's
- 1:11:24episode for the preview and then uh just treat
- 1:11:27it like uh treat it like this week you know Throw
- 1:11:31a couple units down on on on Denver and Like
- 1:11:35one on Penn State. You have a good time. That's
- 1:11:38what I did. Hopefully I Mean do we got anything
- 1:11:43else before I wrap this up? Yes. Yeah, I gotta
- 1:11:46get going Later I can do this real quick Masters
- 1:11:51start Thursday. So yes Morning, so I got a few
- 1:11:55hopefully you're watching this before T times
- 1:11:58and talk to me Real quick, these are these first
- 1:12:03three or half units Colin Mora Kawa to win plus
- 1:12:061600 Colin Mora Kawa top 10 plus 260 Patrick
- 1:12:10Reed top 20 plus 210 half unis Corey Connors
- 1:12:15top 30 minus 120 for you That's real quick. I'll
- 1:12:19have some more follow the Twitter. I'll post
- 1:12:21them either early in the morning or tonight.
- 1:12:24So which or Wednesday night, which means nothing
- 1:12:28to people who are watching this on Thursday,
- 1:12:29but they'll be, they'll be posted by the morning.
- 1:12:33So we'll have a lot more. I'm excited. Okay.
- 1:12:40Damn. All right. The A's didn't go over Chris.
- 1:12:43Yeah, I know. Streak ends at five. That always
- 1:12:47happens. Yep. Well, I saw the total was at 10
- 1:12:50today and I was like, ah, that's too high, but
- 1:12:52I got to take it out. Yeah. Just because if it,
- 1:12:56Cause last night it was six to five in the first
- 1:12:59inning. So I was like, shit, if they can do that.
- 1:13:03And the first, and it's like bats will probably
- 1:13:04cool off. Total was really high tonight, but
- 1:13:06I got it. I got a ride with it. And then what
- 1:13:09was it? Two to one. Was that the final? I don't
- 1:13:12know. I just, it was, it was two to one in the
- 1:13:14ninth. So it was great. Yeah. Wasn't even fucking
- 1:13:18close. All right. Let's wrap it up. See you next
- 1:13:22week. I got to get going. Got a hockey game.
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