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O'Brien & Doug Ep177 [December 21, 2023 The One Before Christmas Break] · O'Brien & Doug

• 0:28
  SPEAKER_00: Welcome to the Orion Duck Podcast.
• 0:30
  SPEAKER_00: I'm a fine.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_00: I'm ducked.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_00: We're in the dark.
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_08: Well, we're not really in the dark.
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_00: We're we're work we're working with a generator right now.
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_08: We're at the beginning of a Victorian novel.
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_08: It was a dark and stormy night.
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  SPEAKER_00: So so is it Oh, can you I don't know if you can hear that.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_00: If you can hear the wind.
• 0:49
  SPEAKER_00: Is that the Yeah, that was the wind.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_00: Didn't even hear that.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_00: So we are in the fun dungeon.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_00: Um and we're I think we're getting the tail end of like a storm uh uh surge or something that's at a niño.
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, here it is which is Spanish for the niño.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_00: Here it is.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_00: We're recording on Monday, December, what is it?
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_00: 18th.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_00: December 18th.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_00: And it was almost sixty degrees today.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_00: And there is no snow on the ground.
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_08: Well, there's some.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_00: In northern Maine.
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_00: Uh after today, I'm not sure if there's any because it rained all day long.
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: And it was warm.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_00: And really, really windy.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_00: And um we were debating whether we're gonna do the podcast tonight, but we decided that uh, you know, we're battery powered, at least partially.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_08: Partially battery powered.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_00: So um we said, yeah, let's do it.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_00: And uh actually you were on your way here and we lost power here at the house.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, well, it was like well when I was driving up here was like a it was like a dystopian, you know, apocalyptic movie because all the you know.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_08: Well, Mars Hill had lights.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_08: And then I got to Easton and there was no lights.
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_08: And then I got to the Amish community.
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_08: There were lights, but they always have lights.
• 2:03
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
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  SPEAKER_08: And then I got here and there were some lights.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_08: And then I was like, oh, I then I turned on your road and there were people with houses with lights.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_08: I was like, oh, okay.
• 2:11
  SPEAKER_08: Well, it's I don't know what maybe they came on while you know in between.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_00: Well, we went to because we were supposed to have basketball games, two basketball games tonight.
• 2:17
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_00: So we left and we were headed into town, and we got the call or uh something while we were headed into town that they were all canceled.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_00: Because they because they have no power.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm like, okay, so and Eli was actually at the wreck, so he's like, he calls us, he says, Can you come get me?
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_00: And we, you know, everything's canceled.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, we're coming to get him.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_00: So we go into town and all the traffic lights are down.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_08: Well, they've been down all day.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it was like the wild west.
• 2:43
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, okay, can I go now?
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, their blinkers on, maybe I can get out now.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_00: You know, it's just like you know, it was really strange.
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  SPEAKER_08: But it was only half a town.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_08: Like the other half, where Walmer was.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_00: Was okay, was okay.
• 2:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was fine.
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_00: Interesting.
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_00: We're without power, I think, because our neighbor, uh there a tree went down on the line.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
• 3:04
  SPEAKER_00: And um pulled pulled something from the from the telephone pole, which I think is I think we're we're on the same pole as they are.
• 3:12
  SPEAKER_08: Because our our other neighbors Well I was gonna say all your neighbors down like next door have like power.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_00: The same thing happened last year.
• 3:21
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and last year sucked.
• 3:23
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: But Jay, it was way it was like right before Christmas.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_00: It was, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was.
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  SPEAKER_08: And uh you had it off for like two, three days.
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_00: We had it off for two or three days.
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  SPEAKER_00: We we actually opened our presents without heat.
• 3:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um uh Christmas morning.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was it was rough.
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  SPEAKER_08: So hopefully they'll have the power back before Christmas.
• 3:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I hope so too.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_00: I hope so too.
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_00: But it's wide it is widespread.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_00: I talked to them, it is widespread.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, it's very this is episode 177.
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_00: Did I say that already?
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_00: No.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, I didn't.
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  SPEAKER_00: 177.
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_00: Um and I had a I had a kind of a plan uh today uh because uh you know, when I when I look up stuff to talk about, um it kind of leads me in a direction.
• 4:04
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: And one of the things um that Ultimate Classic Rock was talking about was um biggest uh on stage feuds or like fights or whatever, dust-ups between bands.
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you know, you can think of them off the top of your head.
• 4:19
  SPEAKER_00: Um they they make a list, so we'll go over some of those.
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  SPEAKER_00: But one of the things that I didn't know, did you know?
• 4:25
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe you because you are you reading Getty Lee's book?
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh uh Did you know that he was fired?
• 4:30
  SPEAKER_08: Fired from what?
• 4:31
  SPEAKER_00: From Rush.
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  SPEAKER_08: I haven't got there yet.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_00: It was well Well, maybe it was in the early days.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_00: It was.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, yeah.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_00: I knew that, yeah.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was.
• 4:39
  SPEAKER_08: He started his own band.
• 4:40
  SPEAKER_00: After they fired him?
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_00: Did you know they didn't really fire him?
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_00: They said they told him the band broke up?
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: And then they then he and then he was like he went someplace and he saw that they were playing, he's like, wait a second.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, apparently uh Cla Ultimate Classic Rock has an article where they uh he confronted Alex Lifeson about it.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's like, you know, basically, did you you know what what what was that all about?
• 5:06
  SPEAKER_00: Did you defend me and blah blah blah?
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  SPEAKER_00: And apparently Alex Lifeson, this is like current day when they when he's interviewing him for his book, Alex Lifson just kind of looked at his feet.
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, well he's like, you know, and apparently Ale you know, according to Getty, Alex is is one of those guys that just kind of you know just wants to play guitar and just kind of goes along with everything.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_00: So he didn't defend him, but he didn't like say we should fire him.
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_00: He just was like, All right, whatever you guys, you know.
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, it wasn't it wasn't Alex's right uh call.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_08: He was he was kicked out of rush.
• 5:41
  SPEAKER_00: Which I I hadn't heard.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 5:43
  SPEAKER_00: So um, but I was um reading an article about um Peter Chris from Kiss because obviously uh obviously that that was a uh when they when they first reunited and they they did a tour, um I I I had read about this before, but I w I couldn't remember which tour it was.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_00: But it was a reunion tour, and it was like I think in the nineties maybe where he purposely, the last five shows of the tour, he purposely screw screwed everything up because he was ticked off.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, okay.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_00: So he found out he found out that Ace Freely was making ten thousand dollars more a gig than he was.
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  SPEAKER_00: That was one of the one of the things that ticked him off.
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  SPEAKER_08: And possibly Well, see now that depends.
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, was was he on was Chris mak uh you know Peter Chris making like a hundred bucks?
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_08: Or was or was it like he making ten thousand and Ace Freely was making twenty thousand?
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_00: But in your in in in you know, I mean when you're in that situation, it's like what so he's more valuable than I am, you know, that type of thing.
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  SPEAKER_08: Well he is the drummer.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
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  SPEAKER_08: So he's no doesn't everybody know the band math?
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_01: That's true, I guess.
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  SPEAKER_08: Drummers are at the bottom of the equation.
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  SPEAKER_08: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: So um so so one of the ones uh Paul Stanley would turn around and told him told him to to slow down the tempo, which ticked him off again, you know, like slow down the song.
• 7:19
  SPEAKER_00: And so uh he purposely slowed down the tempo like really, really, really slow right.
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Which ticked off Paul Stanley, and you know, they they kind of w went at it a little while, and then after the after the tour was over, Peter Chris was fired again.
• 7:35
  SPEAKER_08: Well, I mean, you know, kind of kind of saw that coming.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know that was that was a that was a whole separate article, uh, but then I found this uh Rock's twenty-two nastiest on stage band made blow-ups.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_08: All right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um I don't want to go through all 22, but Well, the Eagles is gonna be on.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, the one we're done.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_00: Donfelder's like, I want to kick your ass.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_00: Three more songs I'm gonna take you a sudden kick your ass.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_00: I can't wait.
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_00: Can't wait.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_00: It was down Donfelder and Glenn Fry.
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_00: That's on here.
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_00: That's on the thing.
• 8:05
  SPEAKER_00: I'm good because that's my favorite one.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_00: Um Van Halen, obviously the drama that that comes with Van Halen, both with Roth and with Hagar.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um in uh 1984, Van Halen um Eddie Van Halen would would the egos between Roth and Eddie, you know, flared up.
• 8:28
  SPEAKER_00: Well, obviously.
• 8:28
  SPEAKER_00: And so Eddie would play a really long guitar solo and just like keep going, you know, and Roth got really ticked off.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_00: So it says it says all my solos end with a nod to Al, the drummer, so I just keep going until I turn around.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_00: Um and then he says, I have no idea what's the longest I've gone.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_00: About twenty minutes, probably.
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_00: That's when I started getting ragged on by a certain person, Diamond Dave.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_00: Uh your solo's getting too long.
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_00: I'd say, F you, your raps are getting longer.
• 8:59
  SPEAKER_00: It used to be nothing but talk, man.
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_00: It was three-fourths talk.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_00: But as soon as I got up there to do my solo, he couldn't stop me anymore.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_00: So I I hadn't seen I hadn't seen Van Halen with Roth in the early days.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_00: But Roth has a mouth.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_10: Oh yeah, he can just talk.
• 9:16
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
• 9:18
  SPEAKER_00: Apparently he used to talk a lot during the show.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_00: No surprise.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so Van Halen got tired of it and he just started playing longer solos.
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_08: Well, it makes sense to me.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_00: Uh but I was looking at this too, um in 2004 when they got back together with Sammy and Mike Anthony for that reunion tour.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_00: Um did you ever see footage from that?
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_00: Because it was awful.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_00: Ed was in a bad place.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_00: Well yeah, he was just alcohol.
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_08: Didn't he have a cancer to still too?
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_00: I think so.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not sure I'm not sure when that all came came down, but he was skinny as a rail.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_00: And he had his hair, you know, up like in a man bun type thing.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_00: But um I watched, because I read this this uh entry and I watched I went to YouTube and I watched um Eddie doing you know, his his guitar solo segment from that uh Tucson show, which was like the r the end of the tour.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_00: And it was kind of sad to watch.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_00: It was really, really bad.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um anyway, uh we just talked mentioned that it was he was he was on drugs and he was still drinking and everything.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_00: So things got so bad that Hagar tried to quit mid-tour, but threats of legal action kept him enlisted until the final date.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_00: It boiled over uh November 19th in Tucson.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_00: Van Halen was in no condition to perform during what Hagar said was the worst show we've ever played in our lives.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_00: Van Halen smashed his guitar, hurled it off stage, yelled at the crowd, said, You don't understand, and he was crying.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_00: Uh the incident led Hagar to cut off communication with Van Halen brothers for years.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_00: Um he said it was a horrible, horrible ending to a beautiful, beautiful story.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_00: It's too bad.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_00: It is too bad.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_00: Uh the Kinks, Ray and Dave Davies, they went at each other all the time.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um one of the things Dave reportedly walked back to the drummer one night and said, Why don't you get your blank out and play the snare with it?
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_00: It'll probably sound better.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_00: Starts with a C and ends in a K.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, it's click.
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_00: It is click.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_00: Get your click out.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_00: Get your click out.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_00: Um Motorhead 2011.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Lemmy Kilmeister was sick as a dog.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_00: He could barely speak uh and was in a bad mood.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_00: Mickey D, the drummer, uh recalled, he insisted the band cancel their headlining gig.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_00: Uh but Kilmeister wasn't having it.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_00: Things got worse during the performance as Lemmy yelled at D for playing too fast.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_00: Uh he says, You're killing me.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_00: Uh slow down, annoyed by his bandmate's outburst, he uh he said, I had a bucket of ice where I had a towel in, and I took the towel and I threw it in right in his face with ice and everything, and told him to F off and left the stage.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_00: He eventually returned to finish out the set, but tensions were still high.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_00: Both men continued to berate each other during the performance, which affected their playing.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_00: Um The Who, obviously getting fights, Guns N' Roses.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um Axel Rose uh got up on on stage one night and actually told the crowd uh this may be the last Guns N' Roses show that you see.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_08: Was this the Montreal show?
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_00: No, Riot.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_00: Nope, that was different.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_00: This was uh they were with opening for the Rolling Stones.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_00: Oh.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_00: In eighty nine.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_08: Oh wow, that was a while ago.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_00: Um and you know, this was back when Axl Rose was just primadonna.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_00: You know, he was a diva.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_00: Um he arrived in a cop car.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_00: Um let's see but October 18th in Los Angeles, he publicly called out his bandmates for their drug use.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_00: He says, I hate to do this on stage, but I tried every other way, and unless certain people in this band get their shit together, these will be the last Guns N' Roses shows you'll ever see.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_00: And apparently Slash and Duff were not very happy that he did that.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_08: Well, I I think that may be partly uh you know guilty conscious.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, right.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_08: You know what I mean?
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_08: Oh yeah, yeah.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_08: Now I I'm surprised the uh Montreal riot's not in there.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, with Metallica?
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, when Metallica had to leave because uh Hedgehill caught caught on fire.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_08: Oh that was the uh generator and uh and um you know Guns N' Roses cut their thing short, so everybody was like, hey, let's trash the place.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_00: Right, no, yeah.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_00: Uh that wasn't an on-stage blow-up though.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_08: No, I mean no, I I just yeah, I just that's all I can think of.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_00: Uh let's see Kiss, the guitar player Vinnie Vincent.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_00: He went on this really long guitar solo, and Paul Stanley got up and uh because of course Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons left the stage because it was just going on and on and on and on.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_00: And uh so Paul Stanley got up on the microphone and he said uh Vinnie Vincent, lead guitar, solo over.
• 14:07
  unknown: Wow.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_00: Made him stop his guitar solo which did not sit very well with Vinnie Vincent's so he was out of the band as well.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_00: Oasis.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_00: I don't even have to go into Oasis.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_08: Well, that's just that's just a crap show anyway.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_00: Um Bobby Dahl and Brett Michaels of Poison.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_00: Uh there's your there's your Eagles one from 1980.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_00: I love that one.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_10: That's so funny.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, Dawkins.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um a fist fight broke out between uh Don Dawkins and George uh Lynch in a limousine on the way to a gig at London's Wimbly Arena.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_00: Uh they were ready to continue their brawl in the venue's parking lot until Dawkins and Lynch were informed that their set was about to begin.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_00: Uh when I went on stage, there was a line on George's side of the stage, and he said, If you cross this during the show, I'll smash my guitar over your head.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_00: That's the way it went on in front of 18,000 people the rest of the night.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_00: Um and of course, we all know the the relationship between Don Dawkins and George Lynch.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_08: They don't hate each other anymore, but Yeah, but back then it was uh pretty contentious.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um Iron Maiden, when Bruce Dickinson first uh joined the band, um he and Steve Harris butted heads because they had their idea of um what do you what do you call stagecraft.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, sure yeah.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_00: So like when when Bruce Dickinson is singing, he's the lead singer, so he's out in front.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_00: Steve Harris is playing a solo or something like that, he could be out in front.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_00: But then they started kind of infringing on each other's and the egos.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, of course, yeah.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_00: So they went at it with each other and and so on and so forth.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_00: The Everly Brothers, 1973, one of them got really, really drunk.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_08: Didn't didn't he hit the other one with the guitar?
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_00: He didn't hit him.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_00: Oh.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_00: He busted his guitar.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_00: Let's see, let's see, it says uh the only time I've ever been drunk on stage uh in my life.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_00: I knew it was the last night, and on the way out I drank some tequila, drank some champagne, uh, started celebrating the demise.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_00: It was really a funeral.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_00: Don forgot the words to some songs and slurred his speech, doing others.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_00: Meanwhile, Phil was furious at what was happening around him as the audience began to boo.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_00: Phil decided he'd had enough.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_00: He stopped playing, walked off stage, and smashed his guitar while Don lashed out at the crowd.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_08: That's what happened when Marines drink.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_08: You know.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_08: Yep.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yep, yep, yep.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, let's see, Soundgarden.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_00: Trying to think of the oh, this was uh no, that one wasn't funny.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to get to the funny ones.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_00: Ginger Baker and Jack Bruce from Cream.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_00: Always, always had uh fist cuffs on stage.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_08: Well, Ginger Baker, I mean, come on.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_08: That dude that dude is nothing but friggin'.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_00: Did you ever watch that documentary?
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, first thing, he's like smacking the documentary guy around.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_08: Hit him with his cane or something.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, he had issues.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_00: He had issues.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, so I wanted to talk about um kind of like what is the right way to um because we had We've never really had anything like when we were on stage.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_00: We've never really had any kind of blow-up.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_00: Um have we ever played when someone's like ticked off?
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sure I'm sure we have.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_00: I don't remember it, but I'm sure we have.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um so how did we handle it?
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_08: We stopped the song.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_08: No, not not at you know Refresh My Memory.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_08: It was that at the lake.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_08: Remember I s we were playing and I swallowed a fly fluid and I swallowed a bug.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_08: Yes, yes, yes.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_08: I was trying to get your guys' attention and nobody was paying any attention to me.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_00: So we got done the song, and I was like, you guys have to Yeah, but that was there was no like that was we were that we didn't have a beef with each other.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_08: No, I was just really ticked off.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_00: You guys wouldn't uh Because we we were playing, we didn't know.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, you didn't pay any attention to me.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_08: Which is normal because I'm the drummer.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_08: So but uh yeah, I remember Josh just walked off.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_08: He just like God.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_08: He just didn't even stick around.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_00: Was it did we was it at the end of a set?
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, it was like the last song before a break.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_08: So it wasn't, you know, so I'm just like, why'd you guys I was playing along and a friggin' fly flew in my mouth and I had to like try to play and I'm like joking on joking on this friggin' bug.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_08: I'm trying to get your guys' attention and nobody can play like a boom, boop, boom, boom, boom.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_00: You know, so I guess what I mean is I got mad at you guys.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_00: I forgot about that.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_00: I guess what I mean is like um how do you handle see we've we've never really had the the closest thing that I can think of is when Josh first played with us.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_00: Uh or actually it was second or third gig.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_00: When we played Matawaska.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_00: Where um and we've talked about it before, he was fifteen, sixteen?
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_08: Uh he's probably fifteen, sixteen.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_00: And I think it was his second or third show with us.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_00: I think it was the second.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_00: Because the first one was a road trip in in Massachusetts.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_00: And he did okay for that.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he did okay for that.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_00: But then so we played in Matawasca and it was just starting guitar, to be honest.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_00: And it's so funny to think about now because he's like an amazing guitar player now and he's making a living from it.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_00: Um it but it's so funny to think about, you know.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_00: I remember we were playing and I was getting frustrated because Josh was playing right next to me.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_00: And uh he wasn't like he was just he was very amateur.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you're trying to get him to palm mute.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_00: I wanted him to palm you because he was just well hold on a second.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_00: The only way I can tell I can uh describe it is to to demonstrate.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_00: So via audio.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_00: So I have uh an electric guitar in my hands right now, it's not plugged in or anything.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_00: But so so when we would play a song, I don't know, let's say um, I don't know, Mustang Sally.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_00: Alright.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_00: Not that we've ever done that we've ever done Mustang Sally.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_00: No, never.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_00: But um so he would play it.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe not that bad.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_01: Even then he played it better than that.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_00: But but he would play it and he'd let kind of like all the strings ring out.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_00: Even if he was playing the right chord.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_00: You know, he'd play it, and I'd be like, don't you know how to palm mute?
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_00: You know, with your hand just kind of muting the strings, so it's you know, and I it really was bothering me.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_00: And so we we sat him down uh a a little later.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_08: It's like a week or so.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, instead of saying, instead of saying, listen, you jerk, you can't play, you're fired.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_00: We sat him down and we're like, listen, we want you in the band.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_00: We're not gonna replace you, but we we need to work on some stuff.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_00: You know, and and you need to you need to really kind of up your game, and we'll help you.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_08: You know, and oh yeah, I remember sitting at the station, you know, sitting around the conference table, and you you were working with them and what part of that what part because didn't we do something at Subway?
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_08: Well, that's when we sat.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_08: That was the that was the come to Jesus moment we had in one of them.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so we we actually had the discussion at the radio station.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_08: No, no, no.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_08: We had the discussion at Subway.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_08: Then what happened at the radio station?
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_08: Well, that's when you started that he would show up at the radio station and you would work with it.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, oh, okay.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, that was the solution.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_00: We we we had a m uh meal at Subway and we basically came like I like you described it, a come to Jesus meeting.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_00: And it was like, this is we gotta get better, you're not gonna play with us anymore.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_00: Until until we can make you better.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, he still came to all the gigs, but he wasn't playing.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_08: You know, he was just kind of like the roadie for a bit, and then uh, you know, all that time he started he got working, and I think it was just like I think that was like the moment where like, ooh, I'm not as good as I think I am.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_08: You know?
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_08: You know, because I mean he was fifteen and he's in a band with you know forty something adults.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_08: We weren't forty at the time, were we?
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah we were.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_00: No, we weren't.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah we were I was I just turned fifty, dude.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_00: So so ten years ago, he it was it was not ten years ago, he's like is he twenty-nine now?
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_08: Well he joined in like two thousand thirteen, so that was ten years ago.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_00: He joined in two thousand ten, didn't he?
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_00: Well no, our album came out in two thousand ten.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_08: So shortly after that.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_08: Shortly after that.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_08: Maybe two thousand eleven?
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because I mean uh Maddie was still was still around, so yeah.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_08: But he got better after that.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_08: It was like it was like the you know, awakening.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_00: But I mean I think we handled it well.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_08: Well well we handed it like adults.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_08: So that's that's the way it should be, but it's not like that with everybody.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_08: And it's also it's it's also it wasn't an ego thing, it was a technique thing.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_00: Right, exactly.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_00: To make it a four-piece.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_00: So and I don't mean this in a we didn't need him.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_00: No, we wanted him.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_00: We wanted it.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_00: So we could have and we did make it work without him until he was ready.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_00: All these all these other bands, you know, if they fire somebody, they gotta get somebody else.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_00: You know.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_08: So I'm just it was interesting.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, if if we if we had fired him, you know, we would have been we'd have just gone back to what we were doing.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_08: It would have been no right.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_08: But we wanted a fourth person in the band and we wanted him.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_00: And boy, boy, i it was fun.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_08: Uh you know, once he Once once he got into it, it got good, and then it was like, whoa.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_08: You know what I mean?
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_08: It was really, really, really, really good.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, um, speaking of that.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_00: Um his dad shared a video with me.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, yeah.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_00: Did you send it to you?
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_08: He sent it to me too, yeah.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_00: Um my neighbors asking me if we have power.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_00: Um hold on, let me let me just take care of this.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_00: This is real-time communication uh nope.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_00: Tree.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_00: Next door.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um Storm Central!
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_09: O'Brien and Doug Storm Central! There's a tree down.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_00: There's a tree, yes.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_00: Um So anyway, I just thought that was interesting to think about.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_00: You know, how how we handled that and how and how it should be.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_08: I thought we handled it well.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_00: I thought we did too.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_08: You know.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_08: Um I don't think Josh agreed at the time.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_00: At the time.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_00: I think he does now.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, yeah, I think he gets it.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_08: I think he got it.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_00: And I think And I think he I think he's better for it.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_00: I do too.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_00: Um and I just, you know, I think we're largely responsible for his success his success.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_08: I think we should get half of everything you answered.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_00: I'm glad you went there because it was a joke.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, uh, yes, uh Josh.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_08: What do you got?
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_08: Twelve guitars?
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_08: Okay, give us six.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_00: I I asked uh his dad because uh what he I and let me finish that because you saw that clip.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_00: So his dad sent us a clip of us playing a stray cat song uh at uh the Fish and Game Club, which was one of our favorite places to play.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_00: And he was playing his Gretsch, which I always love that guitar.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_00: I I never thought it suited Josh.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_08: Remember, I was like, uh Yeah, you were always like, that should be my guitar.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_00: And so I said uh What are you doing with my guitar?
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_00: I said, um hold on.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_00: Those those dings are my neighbor.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Storm Central, up to the city.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_00: Storm Central!
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_09: Power is still out of the city.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_00: She's asking if uh uh we can be of any assistance.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_00: Uh no.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_00: We have a generator.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_00: You should be like, send power.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_00: Um and I think Can we borrow a bucket of electricity?
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_00: We are all set for now.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_00: There.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_00: Um So that was nice of her to reach out.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_09: Send send ammo and provisions.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_00: We're we're in the bunker right now.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_00: We're underground.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_09: Game over, man! Game over!
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_00: So um where was I?
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_00: And uh I asked him, I said, Does he still have that guitar?
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_00: And he's like, sure does.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_00: I wonder how many guitars he has now.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_00: It's probably pretty massive.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_00: Probably.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think it's massive.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_08: Well, not massive, but I mean a lot.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_08: For Emma.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, he's a Tory musician.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, he's gotta have uh he's gotta have like five to eight easily.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_08: I was gonna say ten to twelve.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_00: You think so?
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_08: I don't know.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, that'd be interesting to know, but uh yeah.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_08: I I mean he's gonna he's got quite a collection now.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_08: Of course he's got a million pedals and stuff like that.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_00: We should have done an interview tonight.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't even think.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_08: Well he might be on the road though.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_00: Well, no, I'm not not just with him, but I mean we were talking about uh setting up some more.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we gotta get some more games on the show.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_08: But I thought we were gonna start that on the new year.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think that's probably true.
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_00: That's that's probably a good idea.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um the other thing I wanted to do, speaking of uh brawls and dust-ups and bad feelings, uh Motley Crue.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_00: Good segue.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_00: Um their uh ousting of McMars.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_00: Actually, it wasn't an ousting.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_00: McMars decided on the city.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna tour anymore.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I'm still in the band, but I'm not gonna tour anymore.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_00: I'll be part of uh writing songs and making records and things like that, but I'm not gonna tour anymore.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_00: But they swiftly got John Five to tour, and they started writing songs with John Five, and basically there was bad blood between McMars and Motley Crue.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, she said whatever.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_00: Um Whatever.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_08: You don't need my help, whatever.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_08: Do you remember you guys?
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_00: Do you remember when I used to make fun of Josh?
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_00: Not to change the subject, but at every gig I used to make fun of him when his when he would get a Facebook message.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_08: Ding! Bread's done.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_08: Fries done.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_00: From Bread's done.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_00: Fries are up.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, um, so McMars, uh we've played one of his songs uh from his debut solo album.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_00: It was pretty good too.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I've got another one.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_00: Ah, so I wanted to I wanted to listen to this uh to see if this the other one was really good.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was good.
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_00: It was different.
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_00: It was uh not Motley Crue.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_08: No, it was more like uh it was heavier and it was yeah, it was heavier, yeah.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_00: Kind of uh uh I don't want to say industrial.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_00: It wasn't industrial, but it was very I don't know, I don't know how to describe it, but this one is called Right Side of Wrong, and I think that's a good one.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_00: I mean I didn't know the funny thing is, is remember when Nikki Sticks came out with that band 6am?
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I like that better than Molly Proof.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_10: I didn't do that.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_00: I like this better than Molly Proof.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_00: Can't remember the lead singers because he's got different singers on different songs.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_02: The article doesn't mention who's singing, so he says there's uh uh an odd kind of guitar solo in the song.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm kinda looking to see trying to get to that part.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_00: He says that it's um what do you say?
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_00: It's kinda got an odd solo in it, different than what I've heard anybody do.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe Jeff Beck could have done something like this.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm interested in what the guitar solo sounds like.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_08: Coming up here in a deck.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, you can tell, right?
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_00: Sound that odd to me.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_08: I I don't know what's odd or I don't know.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_08: I don't either.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_00: I like it though.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_00: Right side of wrong.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_00: The uh the album comes out, it's called The Other Side of Mars.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_00: I guess and it comes out February 23rd.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_08: Should have been called the Dark Side of Mars.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_00: Does he have Dark Side of the Moon?
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_00: Does he have a bright side?
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_09: I have no idea.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_00: Actually, according to this video, he does.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I was gonna say he's wearing a half black, half-white jacket.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_00: So anyway, I dig it.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's good.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_00: I uh I look forward to hearing the the When's it coming again?
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_00: February 23rd.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_00: February, okay.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so we got a while.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we do.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_08: Is he releasing uh new songs every full moon?
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_00: No, he no, he's not Peter Gabriel.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um so uh let's do while we're let's see, where are we at here?
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_00: I have no idea.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we're at about a half an hour.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_00: Um I want to do um I cause I have the coolest Michael McDonald moment.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_00: Ah, sweet.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_00: Um let me let's uh let's just get this uh music.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, theme song.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so what we what we've been doing for a little while now is uh professing our love for everything Michael McDonald does.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_00: Uh because the man is a genius and he's just uh just so cool.
• 33:41
  SPEAKER_00: He's just so cool.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_00: Um I found do you know how like in Disney movies when they roll the credits, there's always like this inspirational song.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_08: Oh yeah.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_00: Um Michael McDonald has done one of those.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_08: For a Disney movie?
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_00: Nope.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_00: Oh no.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_00: Uh he didn't write it.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_00: Um but I'm gonna play it.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_00: And you have to pay attention to the lyrics.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_00: Alright.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_00: Okay?
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_08: Um So he didn't write the song, but he sang the song.
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_00: He sang the song.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_08: And it's not in a Disney movie.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_00: It's not in a Disney movie.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_00: Um but what I need you to do is because I don't want you to see the screen when I play it.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_00: So can you just like look that way for a second?
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_00: Because I'm gonna open it up and I'm gonna start playing it and then I'll close the screen.
• 34:35
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, now you can look this way.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_00: This is called the eyes of a child.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, you need to pay attention to the lyrics, it's very inspirational.
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_04: The eyes of a child.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_04: So we're sitting pure.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_04: A child's heart is full of song.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_04: Take the turn ahead and leave them to the light.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_04: As a toast we see pain in the wood, and it's something don't see right through the eye.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_00: Life is kind of gay, but it doesn't seem that way.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_01: That explains a lot from South Park.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_01: But they got they got they got to get Michael McDonald out of this song.
• 38:11
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_01: If you missed some of those words.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_01: Some of my words.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_00: I think what threw it was was where he said, let's see, so don't give up.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_00: Even when the road seems long, just find that child inside you.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you've got to find you.
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_00: Spread your wings and fly to the brightest star.
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_00: If you want, I can even get my friend Steve to detail your car for like twenty bucks.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_00: That's what I was like.
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_01: What?
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_01: Uh and then what he says, uh, I got an eye on my hand.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_01: I've got an eye on my hand.
• 38:37
  SPEAKER_01: There's an eye on my hand, but I still can't find you.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, Where is he going with this?
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_00: Um there's a sparkle in their eyes.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_00: We've yet to realize the bastards that they really are.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_09: Then I was like, what is going on?
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_00: It is I I was looking up Michael McDonald trivia and it was asking, like, which of these songs um uh did Michael McDonald contribute to a soundtrack?
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_00: And there was, you know, there were four choices, and three of them he did, but one of them he didn't.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um and so I was like, what?
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_00: He contributed to South Park?
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_00: Uh what was the m of the movie?
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_00: It was uh South Park Bigger, longer, and uncut.
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_00: So when you see the credits at the end, this is the song that plays.
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my freaking words.
• 39:27
  SPEAKER_00: And if you it says, let's see.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um it's a parody of pop versions of songs heard in the end credits of Disney films, such as Beauty of the Beast, uh, A Whole New World, blah blah blah blah.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Trey Parker and Matt Stone wanted the song to be a music video.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_00: They wanted to put Michael McDonald on a beach with the movie projecting on a sheet, but the studio decided against it.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_08: That would have been pretty funny, actually.
• 39:49
  SPEAKER_08: Oh my word.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_00: So I had to share that.
• 39:52
  SPEAKER_00: I thought that was a classic.
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_08: That is I would never expect that.
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_00: No, me either.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_08: Me either.
• 39:59
  SPEAKER_00: Classic Michael McDonald moment.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_08: I don't know about classic, but it's like neoclassic, right?
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_08: I was like, what?
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_08: Steve's gonna detail your car for like 20 bucks?
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_08: What?
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_01: Through the eyes of a child.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_08: I was like, what what what's inspirational about that?
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_08: I'm crying.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_08: I thought that was so funny.
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_08: That was just I was like, what is happening?
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_08: Right, where where am I?
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_00: I knew I knew the the the detailing your car part was gonna get you because it was fine up until that point.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, up to that.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_08: I was like, oh, okay.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_08: Just out of nowhere.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_08: It's just like this, it's like this typical, like, oh yeah, you know, child the child and blah, blah, and then detail your wait a minute.
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 40:42
  SPEAKER_09: That went off the rails.
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_09: Right.
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_00: Uh all right, so that's our Michael McDonald moment for this week.
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_00: Uh we're gonna take a break and we're going to uh come back.
• 40:51
  SPEAKER_00: We'll climb the wall of tunes.
• 40:53
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• 40:53
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• 40:54
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• 42:01
  SPEAKER_00: Alright.
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_00: What are you gonna do?
• 42:03
  SPEAKER_08: Uh what are you gonna do?
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_08: What are you gonna do?
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_08: No, what are you gonna You know what?
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_08: I'm gonna read I you know, in honor of the holiday, I'm going to read the Christmas story.
• 42:16
  SPEAKER_00: Like the whole thing?
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_00: Oh.
• 42:19
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 42:19
  SPEAKER_00: You're just gonna read excerpts.
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_00: Just just the important part.
• 42:22
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 42:22
  SPEAKER_00: Alright, I'm gonna climb the wall.
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna take my headphones off.
• 42:30
  SPEAKER_08: I gotta hold on.
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_08: Are you ready?
• 42:33
  SPEAKER_08: I gotta it's a little dark in this corner.
• 42:35
  SPEAKER_08: I wonder why.
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_08: You want me to turn that light off?
• 42:37
  SPEAKER_08: No, I got it.
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_08: Okay, so I'm going to be reading from the book of Luke, chapter two, verse eight.
• 42:46
  SPEAKER_08: In that region there were shepherds living in the fields, keeping watch over their flock by night.
• 42:52
  SPEAKER_08: And an angel of the Lord stood before them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them, and they were terrified.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_08: But the angel said to them, Do not be afraid, for see, I am bringing you good news of great joy for all the people.
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_08: To you is born this day, in the city of David, a Savior, who is the Messiah, the Lord.
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_08: This will be a sign for you.
• 43:14
  SPEAKER_08: You will find a child wrapped in bands of cloth and lying in a manger.
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_08: And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly hosts praising God and saying, Glory to God in the highest heaven, and earn earth peace among those whom he favors.
• 43:34
  SPEAKER_08: And then you ruined it with A C D Z.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you, Doug.
• 43:40
  SPEAKER_00: That was very nice.
• 43:41
  SPEAKER_00: There you go.
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_00: That was very nice.
• 43:43
  SPEAKER_00: Uh and it isn't perfect for the season.
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_08: No, it is Christmas.
• 43:47
  SPEAKER_00: It is Christmas.
• 43:48
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_00: Well, there you go.
• 43:50
  SPEAKER_00: Alright.
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_00: Ah yeah, I have an album.
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_00: Alright.
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_00: So uh let the guessing begin.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_08: Is it a solo?
• 43:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_08: Man?
• 43:59
  SPEAKER_08: Yes.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_08: Man.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_00: Man.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_08: John Hyde.
• 44:03
  SPEAKER_08: Nope.
• 44:03
  SPEAKER_08: Okay.
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_08: My calls?
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_08: Not really.
• 44:11
  SPEAKER_08: Michael McDonald?
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_00: Nope.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna make sure that I have this person anyway.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_08: Uh hide of popularity.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_00: Uh late 80s, early 90s.
• 44:27
  SPEAKER_08: Michael Bolton.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_00: Nope.
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_08: Good guess though, but uh Brian Adams.
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_08: Nope.
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_00: I do have I do have this person.
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_08: Okay.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_08: Uh I have no idea.
• 44:49
  SPEAKER_00: Uh some hints?
• 44:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 44:51
  SPEAKER_00: Alright.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_00: Um well, let's see.
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_00: If I give you hints, it's gonna get away, which I guess we want, because we want to get the answer.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um think modern day Roy Orbison.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_08: Modern day Roy Orbison?
• 45:08
  unknown: Yeah.
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_08: I didn't think there was a modern day Roy Orbison.
• 45:19
  SPEAKER_00: Well when I say modern day, he was alive at the same time Roy Orbison was, but his is he still alive?
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_00: Roy Orberson isn't No, I'll be fine.
• 45:29
  SPEAKER_00: Right, but I mean like um the stylings of Roy Orbison in the late 80s, early 90s.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_00: That wasn't Roy Orberson.
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_10: What?
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_00: He sounded like Roy Orbison.
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_00: But I think anyway.
• 45:47
  SPEAKER_00: And I think he I think, you know, if you talk to other people, you stylistically he had a very Roy Orbison sound.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_00: Had a TV show.
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_00: We're now uh had a TV show for a while, was in movies as well.
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_00: Um was a TV show though.
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_00: To be honest, I never watched it.
• 46:17
  SPEAKER_08: Wait, was it Michael Landon?
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_08: Michael Landon was taking a while, I guess.
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_08: And that weird smile of it.
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_01: Remember that?
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody was always like, yeah, what's it?
• 46:33
  SPEAKER_08: It was always like a weird, like almost like fake smile.
• 46:37
  SPEAKER_08: You know what I mean?
• 46:38
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 46:38
  SPEAKER_00: Michael Landon, you were just like, Did you know his daughter's on Yellowstone?
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_08: I didn't even know he had a daughter.
• 46:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 46:46
  SPEAKER_00: And she she yeah, I'll I'll talk to you about it.
• 46:49
  SPEAKER_00: She she plays a character that's like that's like like out there.
• 46:53
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's interesting.
• 46:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I never would have never would have guessed it was Michael Landon's daughter.
• 46:59
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 46:59
  SPEAKER_00: But anyway, I digress.
• 47:02
  SPEAKER_00: No, it's not Michael Landon.
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_08: Okay.
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_08: Well, that's right.
• 47:04
  SPEAKER_00: So think Roy Robison.
• 47:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um, let's see.
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_00: Had a TV show?
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_00: He had a TV show uh in the late 90s, early 2000s, I think.
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_01: I think it was a half-hour I think it was a half-hour um talent show?
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, no.
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_00: It was uh well Honestly, I don't know what it was.
• 47:26
  SPEAKER_00: Is it Chris Isaac?
• 47:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_00: Really?
• 47:29
  SPEAKER_00: He had a TV show?
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was there was one where he like like a half-naked woman, or maybe she was naked and they just didn't show it.
• 47:36
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 47:37
  SPEAKER_00: She was she would lay on a table and like swivel around, and he would talk ask her advice on things.
• 47:46
  SPEAKER_00: And I I can't remember what the name of the show was.
• 47:48
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe it was just the Chris Isaac show.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_08: I have no idea.
• 47:51
  SPEAKER_08: I didn't even know this existed.
• 47:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_00: And I was the my next clue was going to be uh I was gonna say he was in that thing you do.
• 48:02
  SPEAKER_08: Oh yeah, yeah.
• 48:02
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, he was like Uncle or Uncle?
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, it was Uncle.
• 48:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I can't think of his name, though.
• 48:08
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 48:08
  SPEAKER_08: He was on he was on Episode of Friends, too.
• 48:10
  SPEAKER_00: He was also um in arguably the sexiest music video ever made.
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_08: That uh wicked game.
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_08: Wicked game, yes.
• 48:19
  SPEAKER_08: I don't know what's sexy about that.
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_08: I know.
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_00: Well, the the woman that's in that's in it.
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_08: Well, it's still not that sexy.
• 48:24
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, you know.
• 48:25
  SPEAKER_08: Rolling around on a beach half naked?
• 48:27
  SPEAKER_08: She was?
• 48:27
  SPEAKER_08: I don't remember that part.
• 48:29
  SPEAKER_08: Really?
• 48:29
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I was just looking at him.
• 48:38
  SPEAKER_09: There was a woman in there?
• 48:47
  SPEAKER_08: You got me there.
• 48:48
  SPEAKER_08: I do it again.
• 48:51
  SPEAKER_08: But doesn't he sound like Roy Arbison?
• 48:53
  SPEAKER_08: Now that you mentioned it, yeah, he does.
• 48:54
  SPEAKER_08: He does have that Roy Arbison quality.
• 48:56
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 48:59
  SPEAKER_08: He's got kind of like a it's like a combination of Roy Arbison and uh uh Roy Rogers.
• 49:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, that's on fire, no one could say me, but he's gonna be.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_00: I think he sounds a lot like Roy Arbison, to be honest.
• 49:16
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, in this song, yeah.
• 49:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 49:18
  SPEAKER_07: Strange would desire to make foolish people.
• 49:26
  SPEAKER_05: I never dreamed that I'd meet somebody like you.
• 49:35
  SPEAKER_05: I never dreamed that I'd you don't remember that video?
• 49:40
  SPEAKER_08: Vaguely.
• 49:40
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 49:41
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_00: I think it was actually rated like the one of the sexiest videos ever.
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_08: Really?
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_08: I I don't know.
• 49:50
  SPEAKER_00: I can't remember her name.
• 49:50
  SPEAKER_00: It was Paulina was it Paulina Pless?
• 49:55
  SPEAKER_08: Was it that one that was married to the dude from the cars?
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 49:58
  SPEAKER_08: No, no.
• 49:59
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I gotta look it up now.
• 50:01
  SPEAKER_00: Hold on.
• 50:15
  SPEAKER_00: Let me turn this one off.
• 50:18
  unknown: Oh god!
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_00: Oh no, it's like it's a commercial.
• 50:21
  SPEAKER_00: Hold on.
• 50:21
  SPEAKER_08: Why is there a fire in that house?
• 50:23
  SPEAKER_08: I don't know.
• 50:24
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, it looks like the toaster's on fire.
• 50:26
  SPEAKER_08: Okay.
• 50:26
  SPEAKER_08: Okay, okay, here we go.
• 50:27
  SPEAKER_08: So let me just clouds and uh Oh the girl.
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 50:33
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, the girl.
• 50:35
  SPEAKER_01: Hold on a second.
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_00: Well, she has no clothes on except for she's wearing some like some underwear.
• 50:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, or something.
• 50:44
  SPEAKER_00: You know she's wearing tidy whiteys on the beach.
• 50:48
  SPEAKER_00: Those are those are guys' underwear too, aren't they?
• 50:50
  SPEAKER_08: I have no idea.
• 50:51
  SPEAKER_08: Maybe they're his.
• 50:53
  SPEAKER_00: I think she is wearing guys' underwear.
• 51:02
  SPEAKER_08: So is there like a fire?
• 51:04
  SPEAKER_01: Those those are clouds.
• 51:06
  SPEAKER_08: Well they're awful low.
• 51:12
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, it's the eyes.
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_08: That's what yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 51:15
  SPEAKER_00: Um I wonder what it says if it says what her name is here.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_00: No, it doesn't.
• 51:22
  SPEAKER_03: Let's see.
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_03: To make me feel this way.
• 51:31
  SPEAKER_03: What are we gonna do?
• 51:35
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 51:37
  SPEAKER_00: Um let me just do this.
• 51:45
  SPEAKER_00: I think it was Paulina something.
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, Helena.
• 51:50
  SPEAKER_00: Helena Christiansen.
• 51:52
  SPEAKER_08: Never heard of her.
• 51:53
  SPEAKER_00: Um yeah.
• 51:56
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, it's a great video.
• 51:59
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's great.
• 52:00
  SPEAKER_00: It was a great video.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_08: Super good.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_08: Super good.
• 52:02
  SPEAKER_08: Super fine.
• 52:03
  SPEAKER_08: Super fine.
• 52:04
  SPEAKER_00: This is somebody's crying.
• 52:06
  SPEAKER_00: He had a lot of hits actually.
• 52:07
  SPEAKER_00: They weren't big hits.
• 52:09
  SPEAKER_08: Well, I only remember that song.
• 52:11
  SPEAKER_08: If if you I mean, I you know.
• 52:14
  SPEAKER_08: And I didn't even really like the song that much.
• 52:17
  SPEAKER_07: I know somebody in the cry for you.
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_07: You ever heard this?
• 52:21
  SPEAKER_08: Nope.
• 52:24
  SPEAKER_08: But I do it's it's very roarish.
• 52:27
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, reorbish.
• 52:29
  SPEAKER_08: Oh yeah.
• 52:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 52:30
  SPEAKER_06: Somebody's crying.
• 52:31
  SPEAKER_00: Wait till the wait till you hear the chorus.
• 52:33
  SPEAKER_00: Because this could have been a rollover song.
• 52:47
  SPEAKER_07: Somebody's trying to Right?
• 52:54
  SPEAKER_07: Yep.
• 53:00
  SPEAKER_00: San Francisco days.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_00: If you remember this.
• 53:03
  SPEAKER_00: You probably don't remember this one either.
• 53:07
  SPEAKER_08: I only remember that wicked game store.
• 53:10
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I betcha I can play one that you remember.
• 53:11
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 53:15
  SPEAKER_08: How'd you spell his name?
• 53:17
  SPEAKER_08: I-S.
• 53:17
  SPEAKER_00: I-S-A-A-K.
• 53:19
  SPEAKER_08: Okay.
• 53:22
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I guarantee we never did hit it.
• 53:34
  SPEAKER_00: This is San Francisco Days.
• 53:36
  SPEAKER_00: San Francisco Days, San Francisco nights.
• 53:43
  SPEAKER_05: San Francisco Days.
• 53:45
  SPEAKER_08: Let's kinda have that like Janice Joplin uh you know.
• 53:49
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 53:49
  SPEAKER_08: Dead grateful dead kind of feel to it.
• 53:53
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I bet you've heard this one.
• 54:10
  SPEAKER_08: I do not.
• 54:11
  SPEAKER_08: Really?
• 54:13
  SPEAKER_08: Wait to the chorus.
• 54:37
  SPEAKER_00: Very sixties ish.
• 54:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 54:40
  SPEAKER_00: So it's very much this part.
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_00: Real.
• 55:00
  SPEAKER_00: Do you know this one?
• 55:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you do.
• 55:13
  SPEAKER_01: Do I?
• 55:14
  SPEAKER_01: It's not his song.
• 55:16
  SPEAKER_08: That's a roar Roberson song, isn't it?
• 55:26
  SPEAKER_08: Well, that's a Roar Robert song.
• 55:27
  SPEAKER_08: It is, yeah.
• 55:28
  SPEAKER_08: But it's not a Roar Robert.
• 55:29
  SPEAKER_08: No, no, it's him.
• 55:29
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 55:30
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I mean, come on.
• 55:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you can hear it, yeah.
• 55:34
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
• 55:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 55:38
  SPEAKER_00: But then you have things like this.
• 55:48
  SPEAKER_00: Another cover.
• 55:52
  SPEAKER_08: Oh yeah.
• 55:53
  SPEAKER_08: That makes sense.
• 55:54
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 55:57
  SPEAKER_00: But one of my favorite Chris Isaac songs is this one.
• 56:00
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know why.
• 56:01
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe it's because it's bluesy, but I like this one.
• 56:19
  SPEAKER_00: It's called Baby Did a Bad Bad Thing.
• 56:22
  SPEAKER_06: Baby did a bad bad thing.
• 56:25
  SPEAKER_06: Baby did a bad bad thing.
• 56:28
  SPEAKER_06: Baby did a bad bad thing.
• 56:32
  SPEAKER_05: Baby did a bad bad thing.
• 56:35
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, we love someone so much.
• 56:36
  SPEAKER_06: You thought your little thought was gonna break it too.
• 56:41
  SPEAKER_05: You never try with all your heart and soul to get your lover back to you.
• 56:48
  SPEAKER_05: You never pray with all your heart and soul just to want to walk away.
• 56:55
  SPEAKER_00: I just dig it.
• 56:56
  SPEAKER_00: I did I dig Chris's I like his style, man.
• 56:58
  SPEAKER_00: I think I like his uh I like his music a lot.
• 57:01
  SPEAKER_00: There is one song here I have not heard, and I feel like I should play it uh because it's the same title as one of ours.
• 57:07
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, is it?
• 57:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 57:08
  SPEAKER_00: So I feel like I should just listen to see what it's what it sounds like.
• 57:14
  SPEAKER_08: Wait a minute.
• 57:15
  SPEAKER_08: This is our song.
• 58:16
  SPEAKER_00: Let me down easy.
• 58:17
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 58:21
  SPEAKER_00: I dig it.
• 58:22
  SPEAKER_00: I dig it.
• 58:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's pretty cool.
• 58:23
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, I like Chris Isaac.
• 58:25
  SPEAKER_00: I I like his style and uh his voice.
• 58:28
  SPEAKER_00: Um uh I want to find out um Chris Isaac's show.
• 58:35
  SPEAKER_00: Because I swear he used to talk to a um he was either naked or something.
• 58:45
  SPEAKER_00: It's a TV series from 2001 to 2004.
• 58:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I can show you that crazy This is her.
• 59:04
  SPEAKER_00: She's just like laying down.
• 59:09
  SPEAKER_00: Actually, the premise of the show.
• 59:11
  SPEAKER_00: That's a good question, so let's see.
• 59:12
  SPEAKER_00: The Chris Isaac show is an American television sitcom that follows a fictionalized version of the life of an American rock musician Chris Isaac.
• 59:19
  SPEAKER_00: The show portrays Isaac and his band members as everyday people with everyday problems.
• 59:23
  SPEAKER_00: The series was produced for the Showtime Channel from 2001 to 2004 and was filmed in Vancouver, um which stands in for the show's home setting of San Francisco.
• 59:34
  SPEAKER_00: So Yeah, it only lasted a few years, but I remember uh I don't think I ever saw an episode.
• 59:41
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, there's an episode right here.
• 59:44
  SPEAKER_00: Season one, episode one.
• 59:46
  SPEAKER_00: Uh not that I'm gonna watch it, but it's on there's uh there's an episode on YouTube.
• 59:51
  SPEAKER_00: So I might uh take a look at that just to see uh what the premise of the or what the uh show was all about.
• 59:57
  SPEAKER_00: Because I I distinctly remember it was either I was either reading it or there was a trailer or something, and this this she was either naked or she was in a bikini or something.
• 1:00:11
  SPEAKER_00: But she was like in the center of a room and she was rotating.
• 1:00:14
  SPEAKER_00: And he would just like he would just talk to her about his problems.
• 1:00:18
  SPEAKER_00: It was just the most it was the weirdest thing, but it was fascinating.
• 1:00:24
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know why.
• 1:00:25
  SPEAKER_08: Naked Jaguar.
• 1:00:26
  SPEAKER_00: But I don't know if she was naked.
• 1:00:27
  SPEAKER_00: I I don't remember uh because it's so vague, I can you know that I I can't it anyway.
• 1:00:33
  SPEAKER_00: But I distinctly remember something like that.
• 1:00:36
  SPEAKER_00: So I'll investigate.
• 1:00:38
  SPEAKER_00: I have no idea.
• 1:00:39
  SPEAKER_00: We climbed the wall of tunes.
• 1:00:40
  SPEAKER_00: Actually, this was the CD, the best of Chris Isaac.
• 1:00:43
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, well, there you go.
• 1:00:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and uh there's eighteen tra uh eighteen tracks on there.
• 1:00:47
  SPEAKER_08: Wow, any of that many.
• 1:00:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 1:00:49
  SPEAKER_00: Um and you would know probably one well you wouldn't know any of them.
• 1:00:55
  SPEAKER_00: Uh except for Wicked Games.
• 1:00:57
  SPEAKER_00: I know that's awesome.
• 1:00:58
  SPEAKER_00: So one, uh, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine.
• 1:01:07
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe nine or ten of them that were uh semi-hits.
• 1:01:12
  SPEAKER_00: Wicked game was a b was a big hit for him.
• 1:01:14
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously it was a game changer.
• 1:01:16
  SPEAKER_00: Um but uh because Wicked Game was out in eighty-nine, actually.
• 1:01:20
  SPEAKER_00: His first album came out in eighty five.
• 1:01:22
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:01:24
  SPEAKER_00: So good stuff.
• 1:01:27
  SPEAKER_00: Uh that's it.
• 1:01:28
  SPEAKER_00: I guess that's all I have.
• 1:01:29
  SPEAKER_08: Guess what I watched over the weekend?
• 1:01:31
  SPEAKER_08: What did you watch over the weekend?
• 1:01:32
  SPEAKER_08: The new Weird Owl movie.
• 1:01:34
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, with uh Harry Potter.
• 1:01:35
  SPEAKER_00: Harry Potter, yeah, how was it?
• 1:01:37
  SPEAKER_08: It may be the greatest biography ever made of a person.
• 1:01:44
  SPEAKER_00: You're kidding.
• 1:01:45
  SPEAKER_08: No.
• 1:01:46
  SPEAKER_08: Um because it is completely untrue.
• 1:01:50
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, it's it's completely crazy.
• 1:01:54
  SPEAKER_08: It's it's a typical weird owl movie.
• 1:01:57
  SPEAKER_08: None of it is true.
• 1:01:59
  SPEAKER_00: And that's you know that for a fact?
• 1:02:01
  SPEAKER_08: Well, yeah, because he said it.
• 1:02:02
  SPEAKER_08: Because in the movie, he wrote Eat It as an original song and Michael Jackson ripped him off.
• 1:02:13
  SPEAKER_08: And he was dating Madonna.
• 1:02:15
  SPEAKER_08: Uh-huh.
• 1:02:15
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 1:02:16
  SPEAKER_08: So it's none of it- No, wasn't there like some truth to that?
• 1:02:19
  SPEAKER_08: No.
• 1:02:20
  SPEAKER_08: No, he never dated Madonna.
• 1:02:22
  SPEAKER_08: And he was a you know, he got on stage and he was drinking and doing drugs and all this stuff.
• 1:02:26
  SPEAKER_08: And he's never done any of that.
• 1:02:27
  SPEAKER_08: He's never done any of that.
• 1:02:29
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, the movie.
• 1:02:30
  SPEAKER_08: And he and he went to Columbia and took on a drug cartel in this movie to rescue Madonna because she got kidnapped by them.
• 1:02:38
  SPEAKER_00: So it's a biography, but it's not a biography.
• 1:02:41
  SPEAKER_08: It's not even true.
• 1:02:42
  SPEAKER_08: Not even remotely true.
• 1:02:43
  SPEAKER_08: The only thing that's true in it is when the guy show up shows up at their house, the door-to-door salesman that shows up at their house and sells him his first accordion.
• 1:02:51
  SPEAKER_08: So that's the only true part of the entire movie.
• 1:02:56
  SPEAKER_00: The story of his life is a parody of his life.
• 1:03:00
  SPEAKER_08: Exactly.
• 1:03:01
  SPEAKER_08: That's why it's the greatest biography ever movie.
• 1:03:04
  SPEAKER_08: That's awesome.
• 1:03:04
  SPEAKER_08: It was great.
• 1:03:05
  SPEAKER_08: It was really Daniel uh Radcliffe there.
• 1:03:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:03:08
  SPEAKER_08: Did a great job.
• 1:03:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:03:09
  SPEAKER_08: Looks it looks just like him.
• 1:03:10
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 1:03:11
  SPEAKER_08: Except that we the boy ripped.
• 1:03:13
  SPEAKER_00: Who is Daniel Radcliffe?
• 1:03:14
  SPEAKER_00: Really?
• 1:03:15
  SPEAKER_00: Really?
• 1:03:16
  SPEAKER_08: Like a Bruce Lee, like ripped.
• 1:03:17
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I didn't know that.
• 1:03:18
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I didn't know the news.
• 1:03:19
  SPEAKER_08: It was crazy.
• 1:03:20
  SPEAKER_08: So, yeah.
• 1:03:21
  SPEAKER_08: It's great.
• 1:03:22
  SPEAKER_00: It's fantastic.
• 1:03:23
  SPEAKER_08: I'm gonna have to watch that.
• 1:03:24
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 1:03:24
  SPEAKER_08: It's pretty funny.
• 1:03:25
  SPEAKER_08: What's it called?
• 1:03:25
  SPEAKER_08: Weird.
• 1:03:26
  SPEAKER_00: Just weird.
• 1:03:27
  SPEAKER_08: Just weird.
• 1:03:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:03:27
  SPEAKER_08: None of it's true.
• 1:03:29
  SPEAKER_08: Like I said, just the only part about the the only part that's true is when the door-to-door salesman comes to his house and sells them their for the first accordion.
• 1:03:36
  SPEAKER_08: That's it.
• 1:03:37
  SPEAKER_08: The rest of it is completely off the wall.
• 1:03:39
  SPEAKER_08: He's in it.
• 1:03:40
  SPEAKER_08: Jack Black is in it.
• 1:03:42
  SPEAKER_08: Uh else was really big in it.
• 1:03:46
  SPEAKER_08: Uh somebody else.
• 1:03:48
  SPEAKER_08: There's a bunch of people in it.
• 1:03:49
  SPEAKER_08: They're doing doing cameos, of course.
• 1:03:51
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:03:52
  SPEAKER_08: So yeah.
• 1:03:52
  SPEAKER_08: It was pretty great, man.
• 1:03:53
  SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
• 1:03:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:03:54
  SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
• 1:03:55
  SPEAKER_00: Alright, well, that's on my uh my watch list.
• 1:03:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:03:58
  SPEAKER_00: Check it out.
• 1:03:58
  SPEAKER_00: I will.
• 1:03:59
  SPEAKER_00: Uh alright, so that's episode 177.
• 1:04:02
  SPEAKER_00: Uh and we are weren't we supposed to do something Christmas Christmas easy on this episode?
• 1:04:06
  SPEAKER_00: We did.
• 1:04:07
  SPEAKER_00: We did.
• 1:04:08
  SPEAKER_00: We read the Christmas story, yeah.
• 1:04:09
  SPEAKER_00: So there you go.
• 1:04:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:04:10
  SPEAKER_00: Um But we're not gonna be on next week.
• 1:04:13
  SPEAKER_00: We're not gonna be on next week.
• 1:04:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:04:14
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 1:04:15
  SPEAKER_00: Because uh well yeah, hopefully we we're on uh this week.
• 1:04:18
  SPEAKER_00: Uh if the power doesn't come back.
• 1:04:20
  SPEAKER_00: It'll come back.
• 1:04:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:04:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um so yeah, we're gonna we will talk to you again.
• 1:04:26
  SPEAKER_00: I was gonna say in the new year, but no, it'll be it'll be uh Well technically it'll be the new year.
• 1:04:30
  SPEAKER_00: Will it will it?
• 1:04:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we're we're so if we're taking next week off the 25th of Yeah, you're right.
• 1:04:35
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 1:04:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yep, yep.
• 1:04:36
  SPEAKER_00: So we'll talk to you again in 2024.
• 1:04:38
  SPEAKER_08: Yes.
• 1:04:39
  SPEAKER_00: And uh we will have a whole new sound.
• 1:04:42
  SPEAKER_08: We yes.
• 1:04:43
  SPEAKER_00: Actually, hopefully, hopefully we'll get some of that uh material in.
• 1:04:47
  SPEAKER_00: Uh did we did we yeah, we we talked about it.
• 1:04:49
  SPEAKER_08: Hopefully, uh Well, you and I talked about it.
• 1:04:51
  SPEAKER_08: We didn't talk about it with anybody else.
• 1:04:52
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, I thought I said it on the podcast.
• 1:04:54
  SPEAKER_08: I don't think so now.
• 1:04:55
  SPEAKER_00: No?
• 1:04:55
  unknown: No.
• 1:04:55
  SPEAKER_00: Alright, well we'll we have a new voice for the podcast.
• 1:04:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um and w I'm not gonna say who it is.
• 1:05:00
  SPEAKER_00: But uh it'll sound different in 2024.
• 1:05:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:05:03
  SPEAKER_00: So just leave it at that.
• 1:05:05
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I'm excited about it.
• 1:05:06
  SPEAKER_08: We're moving up in the world.
• 1:05:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm excited about it.
• 1:05:08
  SPEAKER_00: So I think it's gonna be awesome.
• 1:05:09
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's gonna be great.
• 1:05:10
  SPEAKER_00: So we we will return in 2024 with a new sound.
• 1:05:14
  SPEAKER_00: Uh new music, new uh same crappy podcast.
• 1:05:18
  SPEAKER_00: Same crappy podcast uh hidden in there.
• 1:05:20
  SPEAKER_00: Um but yeah.
• 1:05:23
  SPEAKER_00: Alright.
• 1:05:24
  SPEAKER_08: Merry Christmas to everyone!
• 1:05:25
  SPEAKER_01: Merry Christmas and a happy new year.
• 1:05:27
  SPEAKER_01: Feliz Navidad.
• 1:05:31
  SPEAKER_08: I don't know the words.
• 1:05:33
  SPEAKER_08: I barely know the tune.
• 1:05:41
  SPEAKER_08: Feliz Navidad.
• 1:05:43
  SPEAKER_00: I've been teaching my kids this song in uh Feliz Navidad in elementary school because it's in Spanish, obviously.
• 1:05:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um Pork Poor What is it?
• 1:05:54
  SPEAKER_00: What are the words again?
• 1:05:55
  SPEAKER_00: Holy cow.
• 1:05:56
  SPEAKER_00: I've been teaching this like for like oh two weeks.
• 1:05:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um you're doing a bang up job.
• 1:06:01
  SPEAKER_08: Apparently, uh But I can't I can't think of of the one the one uh phrase No, I don't want the video.
• 1:06:16
  SPEAKER_08: I don't want the video.
• 1:06:18
  SPEAKER_08: Oh no, right Oh my Christmas Day.
• 1:06:22
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I want I want lyrics.
• 1:06:24
  SPEAKER_00: Uh let's see.
• 1:06:27
  SPEAKER_00: I can't believe I can't think of that first word.
• 1:06:30
  SPEAKER_00: It starts with a P.
• 1:06:32
  SPEAKER_08: Porkum.
• 1:06:33
  SPEAKER_00: Prospero.
• 1:06:35
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
• 1:06:36
  SPEAKER_00: I wanna I was I was thinking porquero, which is like in La Bamba or something.
• 1:06:40
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway.
• 1:06:41
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I think so, yeah.
• 1:06:42
  SPEAKER_00: Prospero año e felicidad, which means happy new year and happy life.
• 1:06:47
  SPEAKER_01: Oh nice.
• 1:06:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's very that's very possible.
• 1:06:49
  SPEAKER_01: So prospero año e felicidad.
• 1:06:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yay! See you next year.
• 1:06:54
  SPEAKER_01: Bye bye, O'Brien! I'm still ducked bye everybody, bye bye!
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