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165: Bill Mazeroski - MLB · Sports History Network

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  he
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  hit
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  perhaps.
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  The
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  greatest
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  home
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  run
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  in
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  World
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  Series
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  history.
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  In
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  fact,
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  it's
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  the
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  only
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  walk
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  off
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  home
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  run
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  in
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  the
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  bottom
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  of
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  the
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  ninth
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  in
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  game
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  seven
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  history.
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  He
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  was
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  not
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  your
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  stereotypical
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  offensive
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  star,
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  but
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  with
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  the
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  glove
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  and
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  there
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  was
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  no
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  one
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  better.
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  And
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  next
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  on
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  Sports
• 1:24
  Forgotten
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  Heroes,
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  we'll
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  take
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  a
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  look
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  back
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  at
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  the
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  career
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  of
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  hall
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  of
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  Fame
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  second
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  baseman
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  Bill
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  Mazeroski.
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  This
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  is
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  Sports
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  Forgotten
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  Heroes,
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  a
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  tribute
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  to
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  the
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  stars
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  who
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  shaped
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  the
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  games
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  we
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  love
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  to
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  watch
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  and
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  the
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  games
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  we
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  love
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  to
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  play.
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  Stars
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  who
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  provided
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  us
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  with
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  many
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  thrills,
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  but
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  when
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  their
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  time
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  was
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  up,
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  they
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  faded
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  away.
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  We'll
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  take
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  a
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  look
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  back
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  at
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  their
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  spectacular
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  careers,
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  their
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  moments
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  of
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  fame,
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  even
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  if
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  it
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  was
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  just
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  for
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  one
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  season
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  or
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  just
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  one
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  game.
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  And
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  now,
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  now
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  here's
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  your
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  host,
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  Warren
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  Rogan.
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  Hello
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  and
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  welcome
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  to
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  Sports
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  Forgotten
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  Heroes,
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  episode
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  165,
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  Bill
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  Mazeroski.
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  Now,
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  not
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  too
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  long
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  ago,
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  February
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  20,
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  2026,
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  we
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  lost
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  a
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  great
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  one
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  when
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  Maz
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  passed
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  away
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  at
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  the
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  age
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  of
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  89.
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  To
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  those
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  not
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  familiar
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  with
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  Maz
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  and
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  who
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  more
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  recently
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  marveled
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  at
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  the
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  exploitation
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  of
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  Ozzie
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  Smith,
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  who
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  was
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  one
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  of
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  the
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  greatest
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  shortstops
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  of
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  all
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  time.
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  That's
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  the
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  type
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  of
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  player
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  Mazeroski
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  was.
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  Good
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  with
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  the
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  bat
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  but
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  great
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  with
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  the
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  glove.
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  And
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  when
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  I
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  say
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  great,
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  it's
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  not
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  an
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  overstatement.
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  Mazarowski,
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  who
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  came
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  up
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  with
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  the
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  Pirates
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  in
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  1956
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  and
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  played
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  17
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  years,
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  won
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  eight
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  Gold
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  Gloves,
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  was
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  an
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  All
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  Star
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  seven
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  times
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  and
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  holds
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  the
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  record
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  for
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  most
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  double
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  plays
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  turned
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  with
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  1,706.
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  He
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  led
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  the
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  National
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  League
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  in
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  turning
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  double
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  plays
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  eight
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  straight
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  years,
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  led
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  the
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  NL
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  in
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  assists
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  nine
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  times,
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  put
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  outs
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  five
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  times
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  and
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  is
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  the
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  all
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  time
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  leader
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  in
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  total
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  zone
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  total
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  fielding
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  runs
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  above
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  average,
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  which
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  is
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  the
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  number
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  of
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  runs
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  above
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  or
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  below
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  average
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  a
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  player
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  is
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  worth
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  based
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  on
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  the
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  number
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  of
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  plays
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  made.
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  That's
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  a
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  mouthful,
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  but
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  for
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  a
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  better
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  explanation,
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  check
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  out
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  baseballreference.com
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  Simply
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  stated,
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  though,
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  Mazerosky
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  was
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  one
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  of
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  the
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  greats,
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  of
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  course,
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  he
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  is
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  best
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  known
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  for
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  the
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  home
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  run
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  he
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  hit
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  in
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  the
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  bottom
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  of
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  the
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  ninth
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  of
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  the
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  seventh
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  game
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  of
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  the
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  1960
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  World
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  Series
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  against
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  the
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  New
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  York
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  Yankees
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  at
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  Forbes
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  Field.
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  To
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  the
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  World
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  Series
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  for
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  the
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  Pirates,
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  by
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  far
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  one
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  of
• 3:46
  the
• 3:46
  greatest
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  home
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  runs
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  in
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  baseball
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  history
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  and
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  one
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  of
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  the
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  most
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  iconic
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  moments
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  in
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  Pittsburgh
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  sports
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  history.
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  Joining
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  me
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  on
• 3:55
  today's
• 3:56
  show
• 3:56
  is
• 3:56
  Harv
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  Aronson,
• 3:58
  host
• 3:58
  of
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  the
• 3:59
  Total
• 3:59
  Sports
• 4:00
  Recall
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  podcast
• 4:01
  and
• 4:02
  a
• 4:02
  lifelong
• 4:02
  fan
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  of
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  the
• 4:03
  Pittsburgh
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  Pirates.
• 4:05
  We'll
• 4:05
  talk
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  about
• 4:06
  that
• 4:06
  home
• 4:07
  run,
• 4:07
  Maz's
• 4:07
  career,
• 4:08
  his
• 4:09
  controversial
• 4:10
  hall
• 4:10
  of
• 4:10
  Fame
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  induction,
• 4:11
  and
• 4:11
  a
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  lot
• 4:12
  more
• 4:13
  before
• 4:13
  we
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  get
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  there.
• 4:14
  A
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  few
• 4:14
  notes
• 4:15
  Please
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  follow
• 4:15
  Sports
• 4:16
  Forgotten
• 4:16
  Heroes
• 4:17
  on
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  Look
• 4:19
  for
• 4:19
  the
• 4:19
  Sports
• 4:20
  Forgotten
• 4:20
  Heroes
• 4:21
  page
• 4:21
  on
• 4:21
  Facebook
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  and
• 4:23
  wherever
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  it
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  is
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  you
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  are
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  listening
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  or
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  watching,
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  please
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  give
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  Sports
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  a
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  like
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  and
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  if
• 4:29
  you
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  can,
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  a
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  five
• 4:31
  star
• 4:31
  rating
• 4:32
  and
• 4:32
  review.
• 4:33
  As
• 4:34
  always,
• 4:34
  I
• 4:35
  thank
• 4:35
  you
• 4:35
  for
• 4:36
  your
• 4:36
  support.
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  Also,
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  I
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  am
• 4:40
  thrilled
• 4:41
  to
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  announce
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  the
• 4:42
  publication
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  of
• 4:43
  my
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• 4:45
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• 4:46
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• 4:46
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• 4:48
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• 4:49
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• 4:50
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• 4:51
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• 4:55
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• 4:56
  a
• 4:56
  look
• 4:57
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• 4:57
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  history
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  of
• 4:58
  the
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  series
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  a
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  on
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• 5:04
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  And
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  until
• 5:09
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• 5:11
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  Okay,
• 5:45
  let's
• 5:45
  get
• 5:45
  to
• 5:45
  today's
• 5:46
  show
• 5:46
  about
• 5:46
  Bill
• 5:47
  Mazowski
• 5:48
  with
• 5:48
  my
• 5:48
  guest,
• 5:49
  Harv
• 5:50
  Aronson.
• 5:52
  And
• 5:53
  joining
• 5:53
  the
• 5:53
  show
• 5:53
  now
• 5:54
  from
• 5:55
  Total
• 5:55
  Sports
• 5:56
  Recall,
• 5:57
  Harv
• 5:57
  Aronson.
• 5:58
  Harv,
• 5:59
  great
• 5:59
  to
• 5:59
  have
• 6:00
  you
• 6:00
  on
• 6:00
  Sports
• 6:00
  Forgotten
• 6:01
  Heroes.
• 6:02
  Well,
• 6:03
  thanks
• 6:03
  for
• 6:03
  inviting
• 6:04
  me,
• 6:04
  Warren,
• 6:04
  and
• 6:05
  it's
• 6:05
  a
• 6:05
  pleasure
• 6:05
  to
• 6:06
  be
• 6:06
  here.
• 6:07
  Yeah,
• 6:08
  this
• 6:08
  is
• 6:08
  going
• 6:08
  to
• 6:08
  be
• 6:08
  awesome.
• 6:09
  We're
• 6:10
  going
• 6:10
  to
• 6:10
  talk
• 6:10
  about
• 6:10
  someone
• 6:11
  I
• 6:11
  know
• 6:11
  close,
• 6:12
  very
• 6:13
  close
• 6:13
  to
• 6:13
  your
• 6:13
  heart,
• 6:14
  the
• 6:14
  great
• 6:15
  Bill
• 6:15
  Mazeroski,
• 6:17
  who,
• 6:18
  unfortunately
• 6:19
  we
• 6:19
  lost
• 6:20
  just
• 6:20
  a,
• 6:21
  a
• 6:22
  short
• 6:22
  time
• 6:22
  ago.
• 6:23
  Where
• 6:23
  does
• 6:24
  your
• 6:24
  fandom
• 6:26
  for
• 6:26
  Bill
• 6:26
  come
• 6:26
  from?
• 6:28
  Well,
• 6:28
  obviously,
• 6:29
  growing
• 6:29
  up
• 6:29
  in
• 6:30
  Pittsburgh,
• 6:31
  I
• 6:31
  was
• 6:31
  one
• 6:32
  year
• 6:32
  old
• 6:32
  when
• 6:32
  the
• 6:33
  1960
• 6:33
  World
• 6:34
  Series
• 6:34
  took
• 6:34
  place.
• 6:35
  So
• 6:35
  of
• 6:35
  course
• 6:35
  I,
• 6:35
  I
• 6:36
  wouldn't
• 6:36
  remember
• 6:36
  that.
• 6:37
  But
• 6:37
  growing
• 6:37
  up
• 6:38
  a
• 6:38
  Pittsburgh
• 6:38
  Pirates
• 6:39
  fan,
• 6:39
  I
• 6:39
  mean,
• 6:39
  you
• 6:39
  know
• 6:40
  all
• 6:40
  about
• 6:41
  the
• 6:41
  1960
• 6:41
  World
• 6:42
  Series,
• 6:42
  and
• 6:42
  fortunately
• 6:43
  I
• 6:43
  got
• 6:43
  to
• 6:43
  see
• 6:44
  him
• 6:44
  play
• 6:44
  in
• 6:44
  the
• 6:44
  1971
• 6:45
  World
• 6:45
  Series.
• 6:45
  So
• 6:45
  I
• 6:46
  was
• 6:46
  a
• 6:46
  little
• 6:46
  older
• 6:46
  then.
• 6:46
  And
• 6:46
  I
• 6:47
  do
• 6:47
  remember
• 6:47
  that
• 6:47
  series,
• 6:48
  but
• 6:49
  I
• 6:49
  actually
• 6:49
  think
• 6:49
  my
• 6:50
  mother
• 6:50
  met
• 6:50
  him
• 6:50
  once.
• 6:51
  She
• 6:51
  said
• 6:51
  he
• 6:52
  was
• 6:52
  such
• 6:52
  a
• 6:52
  gentleman,
• 6:53
  signed
• 6:53
  his
• 6:53
  autograph.
• 6:55
  But
• 6:55
  I
• 6:55
  mean,
• 6:56
  he's
• 6:56
  a
• 6:56
  hero
• 6:57
  in
• 6:57
  Pittsburgh.
• 6:57
  Always
• 6:58
  was,
• 6:58
  always
• 6:58
  will
• 6:59
  be.
• 7:00
  And
• 7:00
  everybody
• 7:01
  quite
• 7:01
  remembers,
• 7:02
  well,
• 7:02
  the
• 7:03
  1960
• 7:03
  World
• 7:03
  Series
• 7:04
  and
• 7:04
  how
• 7:04
  that
• 7:04
  ended.
• 7:06
  It's
• 7:06
  funny
• 7:06
  you
• 7:07
  say
• 7:07
  that
• 7:07
  you're
• 7:07
  a
• 7:08
  Pirates
• 7:09
  fan
• 7:09
  and
• 7:09
  you
• 7:09
  don't
• 7:10
  recall
• 7:10
  the
• 7:11
  1960
• 7:12
  series
• 7:12
  because,
• 7:13
  you
• 7:13
  know,.
• 7:15
  One
• 7:15
  year
• 7:16
  old
• 7:16
  is
• 7:16
  kind
• 7:16
  of
• 7:16
  tough.
• 7:17
  Yeah,
• 7:18
  that's
• 7:18
  sort
• 7:18
  of
• 7:18
  like
• 7:19
  me
• 7:19
  as
• 7:19
  a,
• 7:19
  as
• 7:19
  a
• 7:19
  Mets
• 7:20
  fan.
• 7:21
  It's
• 7:22
  actually
• 7:22
  pretty
• 7:23
  cruel
• 7:23
  because
• 7:25
  I
• 7:25
  can
• 7:25
  remember
• 7:26
  Almost
• 7:27
  everything
• 7:27
  about
• 7:28
  1970
• 7:29
  between
• 7:29
  the
• 7:30
  Orioles
• 7:30
  and
• 7:30
  the
• 7:31
  Reds.
• 7:31
  I
• 7:32
  can
• 7:32
  remember
• 7:32
  Almost
• 7:33
  everything
• 7:33
  about
• 7:34
  1971
• 7:36
  between
• 7:36
  the
• 7:36
  Pirates
• 7:37
  and
• 7:37
  the
• 7:37
  Orioles.
• 7:38
  Then
• 7:38
  of
• 7:38
  course,
• 7:39
  we
• 7:39
  get
• 7:39
  into
• 7:39
  the
• 7:40
  great
• 7:41
  Oakland
• 7:41
  athletic
• 7:42
  teams
• 7:43
  of
• 7:43
  72,
• 7:44
  3
• 7:44
  and
• 7:44
  4.
• 7:45
  I
• 7:45
  have
• 7:46
  no
• 7:46
  recollection
• 7:47
  whatsoever
• 7:49
  of
• 7:49
  1969,
• 7:51
  the
• 7:51
  greatest
• 7:52
  year
• 7:52
  in
• 7:53
  the
• 7:53
  history
• 7:53
  of
• 7:53
  the
• 7:54
  Mets.
• 7:54
  That's
• 7:55
  a,
• 7:55
  that
• 7:55
  was
• 7:55
  pretty,
• 7:56
  one
• 7:56
  heck
• 7:56
  of
• 7:56
  a
• 7:56
  comeback
• 7:57
  on
• 7:57
  their
• 7:57
  part.
• 7:58
  Yeah,
• 7:59
  yeah.
• 8:01
  You
• 8:01
  know,
• 8:01
  when
• 8:02
  people
• 8:02
  hear
• 8:03
  the
• 8:03
  name
• 8:03
  Bill
• 8:04
  Mazarowski,
• 8:06
  they
• 8:07
  immediately
• 8:08
  think
• 8:08
  of
• 8:09
  one
• 8:09
  swing
• 8:10
  and
• 8:10
  you
• 8:11
  know,
• 8:11
  it's,
• 8:11
  it's
• 8:12
  pretty
• 8:12
  fair
• 8:12
  that
• 8:12
  they
• 8:13
  do.
• 8:14
  But
• 8:14
  is
• 8:15
  it
• 8:15
  fair
• 8:15
  when
• 8:16
  you
• 8:16
  consider
• 8:17
  the
• 8:17
  rest
• 8:17
  of
• 8:17
  his
• 8:18
  career?
• 8:19
  No,
• 8:20
  not
• 8:20
  at
• 8:20
  all.
• 8:20
  I
• 8:20
  mean
• 8:21
  he's,
• 8:21
  there's
• 8:22
  all
• 8:22
  kinds
• 8:22
  of
• 8:22
  records
• 8:22
  he
• 8:23
  has.
• 8:23
  He's
• 8:23
  a
• 8:23
  10
• 8:23
  time
• 8:24
  All
• 8:24
  Star,
• 8:26
  played
• 8:26
  his
• 8:26
  entire
• 8:26
  career
• 8:27
  with
• 8:27
  the
• 8:27
  Pirates.
• 8:28
  Fantastic
• 8:29
  defensive
• 8:29
  second
• 8:29
  baseman,
• 8:30
  one
• 8:30
  of
• 8:30
  the
• 8:30
  best
• 8:30
  ever.
• 8:31
  In
• 8:32
  fact,
• 8:32
  I
• 8:32
  think
• 8:32
  he
• 8:33
  is
• 8:33
  the
• 8:34
  all
• 8:34
  time
• 8:34
  leader
• 8:34
  in
• 8:34
  turning
• 8:35
  double
• 8:35
  plays
• 8:35
  in
• 8:36
  second
• 8:36
  base.
• 8:37
  So
• 8:38
  he
• 8:38
  was
• 8:38
  just
• 8:38
  a
• 8:38
  fantastic
• 8:39
  fielder.
• 8:40
  Great
• 8:40
  glove
• 8:41
  and
• 8:41
  he
• 8:41
  was
• 8:42
  an
• 8:42
  above
• 8:42
  average
• 8:43
  hitter.
• 8:43
  But
• 8:43
  you
• 8:43
  know,
• 8:44
  he,
• 8:44
  he
• 8:44
  was
• 8:44
  a
• 8:45
  contact
• 8:45
  hitter
• 8:46
  and
• 8:47
  sure
• 8:47
  enough,
• 8:47
  in
• 8:47
  1960
• 8:48
  he
• 8:48
  made
• 8:48
  contact
• 8:49
  at
• 8:49
  the
• 8:49
  right
• 8:49
  time.
• 8:51
  And
• 8:51
  to
• 8:51
  this
• 8:52
  day,
• 8:52
  that's
• 8:52
  the
• 8:53
  only
• 8:53
  9th
• 8:54
  inning
• 8:55
  walk
• 8:55
  off
• 8:55
  home
• 8:56
  run
• 8:56
  in
• 8:56
  the
• 8:56
  World
• 8:56
  Series
• 8:56
  to
• 8:57
  win
• 8:57
  the
• 8:57
  World
• 8:57
  Series.
• 8:58
  So
• 8:58
  he
• 8:58
  holds
• 8:58
  that
• 8:59
  bottom
• 8:59
  of
• 8:59
  the
• 8:59
  ninth,
• 9:00
  seventh
• 9:00
  game.
• 9:02
  Yeah,
• 9:02
  exactly.
• 9:03
  Seventh
• 9:03
  game,
• 9:04
  walk
• 9:04
  off,
• 9:04
  only
• 9:04
  time
• 9:05
  in
• 9:05
  history.
• 9:07
  So
• 9:07
  yeah,
• 9:08
  he's,
• 9:08
  he's,
• 9:09
  he
• 9:09
  was
• 9:09
  just
• 9:10
  a
• 9:10
  great
• 9:11
  second
• 9:12
  baseman.
• 9:14
  Yeah,
• 9:14
  because
• 9:15
  he's
• 9:16
  a
• 9:16
  Hall
• 9:16
  of
• 9:16
  Famer.
• 9:17
  But
• 9:17
  when
• 9:17
  you
• 9:17
  look
• 9:18
  at
• 9:18
  his
• 9:18
  numbers,
• 9:19
  he's
• 9:19
  not
• 9:19
  in
• 9:20
  the
• 9:20
  hall
• 9:20
  of
• 9:20
  Fame
• 9:20
  necessarily
• 9:21
  because
• 9:22
  of
• 9:22
  what
• 9:22
  he
• 9:22
  did
• 9:23
  at
• 9:23
  the
• 9:23
  plate.
• 9:24
  He's
• 9:24
  in
• 9:24
  the
• 9:24
  hall
• 9:24
  of
• 9:25
  Fame
• 9:25
  because
• 9:26
  of
• 9:26
  what
• 9:27
  he
• 9:27
  did
• 9:27
  in
• 9:27
  the
• 9:27
  field.
• 9:28
  Gold
• 9:28
  Glove
• 9:29
  in
• 9:29
  58.
• 9:30
  Gold
• 9:31
  Glove
• 9:32
  in
• 9:32
  1960.
• 9:33
  61,
• 9:34
  63,
• 9:35
  64,
• 9:36
  65,
• 9:38
  66,
• 9:39
  67.
• 9:40
  I
• 9:40
  mean,
• 9:41
  this
• 9:41
  guy
• 9:42
  was
• 9:43
  just
• 9:43
  a
• 9:43
  phenomenal
• 9:44
  fielder.
• 9:45
  So
• 9:46
  before
• 9:47
  we
• 9:47
  get
• 9:49
  to
• 9:49
  1960,
• 9:51
  tell
• 9:52
  us
• 9:52
  who
• 9:53
  Bill
• 9:53
  Mazeroski
• 9:54
  was
• 9:55
  as
• 9:55
  a
• 9:56
  player
• 9:56
  when
• 9:57
  he
• 9:57
  first
• 9:58
  arrived
• 9:58
  in
• 9:59
  Pittsburgh.
• 9:59
  What
• 10:00
  did
• 10:00
  the
• 10:01
  Pirates
• 10:02
  organization
• 10:03
  see
• 10:04
  in
• 10:04
  him
• 10:05
  early
• 10:06
  that
• 10:06
  made
• 10:06
  them
• 10:07
  believe
• 10:08
  he
• 10:08
  could
• 10:08
  be
• 10:08
  someone
• 10:09
  special
• 10:09
  and
• 10:10
  really
• 10:10
  hold
• 10:11
  down
• 10:11
  second
• 10:12
  base
• 10:12
  for
• 10:12
  such
• 10:13
  a
• 10:13
  long
• 10:14
  period
• 10:14
  of
• 10:14
  time?
• 10:15
  Well,
• 10:15
  it's
• 10:16
  got
• 10:16
  to
• 10:16
  be
• 10:16
  his
• 10:16
  defensive
• 10:17
  prowess.
• 10:17
  I
• 10:17
  mean,
• 10:18
  he
• 10:18
  was
• 10:18
  just
• 10:18
  such
• 10:18
  a
• 10:19
  fantastic
• 10:19
  defensive
• 10:20
  second
• 10:20
  baseman.
• 10:20
  And
• 10:21
  who
• 10:21
  wouldn't
• 10:21
  want
• 10:21
  an
• 10:21
  infielder
• 10:22
  that
• 10:22
  had
• 10:22
  a
• 10:22
  glove
• 10:23
  like
• 10:23
  that.
• 10:24
  And
• 10:24
  you
• 10:24
  know,
• 10:24
  in
• 10:25
  combination
• 10:25
  with
• 10:25
  Gene
• 10:26
  Alley
• 10:26
  for
• 10:26
  the
• 10:26
  longest
• 10:27
  time,
• 10:27
  those
• 10:27
  two
• 10:27
  just
• 10:28
  made
• 10:28
  a
• 10:29
  great
• 10:29
  double
• 10:30
  play
• 10:30
  duo.
• 10:31
  And
• 10:31
  they
• 10:31
  were
• 10:31
  teammates
• 10:32
  for
• 10:32
  quite
• 10:32
  A
• 10:32
  long
• 10:32
  time.
• 10:34
  In
• 10:34
  1966,
• 10:35
  he
• 10:35
  turned
• 10:35
  161
• 10:36
  double
• 10:37
  plays
• 10:37
  and
• 10:38
  that
• 10:38
  remains
• 10:38
  the
• 10:38
  major
• 10:38
  league
• 10:39
  record
• 10:39
  for
• 10:39
  second
• 10:39
  baseman
• 10:40
  to
• 10:40
  this
• 10:40
  day.
• 10:41
  And
• 10:41
  he
• 10:42
  held,
• 10:42
  when
• 10:42
  he
• 10:43
  retired,
• 10:43
  he
• 10:43
  held
• 10:43
  the
• 10:44
  top
• 10:44
  three
• 10:44
  marks
• 10:45
  in
• 10:45
  the
• 10:45
  National
• 10:45
  League
• 10:46
  history
• 10:47
  for
• 10:47
  fielding.
• 10:48
  He
• 10:49
  led
• 10:49
  the
• 10:49
  major
• 10:49
  leagues
• 10:49
  in
• 10:50
  assist
• 10:50
  a
• 10:50
  record
• 10:50
  nine
• 10:51
  times.
• 10:52
  He
• 10:52
  led
• 10:52
  National
• 10:52
  League
• 10:53
  and
• 10:53
  put
• 10:53
  outs
• 10:53
  five
• 10:53
  times.
• 10:54
  He
• 10:54
  was
• 10:54
  an
• 10:55
  eight
• 10:55
  time
• 10:55
  Gold
• 10:55
  Glove
• 10:56
  award
• 10:56
  winner.
• 10:57
  What
• 10:57
  more
• 10:57
  can
• 10:58
  you
• 10:58
  say?
• 10:58
  It's
• 10:58
  just
• 10:58
  that,
• 10:59
  you
• 10:59
  know,
• 11:00
  hall
• 11:00
  of
• 11:00
  Fame
• 11:00
  is
• 11:00
  not
• 11:00
  always
• 11:01
  about
• 11:02
  just
• 11:02
  offensive
• 11:03
  stats.
• 11:04
  And
• 11:04
  Ozzie
• 11:05
  Smith
• 11:05
  has
• 11:05
  proof
• 11:05
  of
• 11:05
  that
• 11:05
  as
• 11:06
  well.
• 11:07
  Probably
• 11:07
  one
• 11:07
  of
• 11:07
  the
• 11:08
  best
• 11:08
  defensive
• 11:08
  shortstops
• 11:09
  in
• 11:09
  history.
• 11:12
  What,
• 11:13
  what
• 11:13
  do
• 11:13
  you
• 11:14
  think
• 11:15
  made
• 11:16
  him
• 11:17
  so
• 11:18
  special
• 11:18
  as
• 11:19
  a
• 11:19
  second
• 11:19
  baseman?
• 11:20
  What
• 11:20
  was
• 11:20
  it
• 11:22
  in
• 11:22
  his
• 11:23
  style
• 11:23
  of
• 11:23
  play?
• 11:23
  Where
• 11:24
  did
• 11:24
  he
• 11:24
  learn
• 11:24
  to
• 11:25
  play
• 11:25
  the
• 11:25
  game
• 11:25
  like
• 11:26
  that?
• 11:26
  Because
• 11:26
  if
• 11:27
  I
• 11:27
  recall,
• 11:28
  he,
• 11:29
  he
• 11:29
  didn't
• 11:29
  get
• 11:30
  to
• 11:30
  play
• 11:30
  all
• 11:30
  that
• 11:31
  much
• 11:31
  as
• 11:31
  a
• 11:32
  youth,
• 11:33
  you
• 11:34
  know,
• 11:35
  because
• 11:35
  of
• 11:35
  his
• 11:36
  family
• 11:36
  situation.
• 11:37
  I
• 11:37
  think
• 11:37
  his
• 11:38
  dad,
• 11:38
  in
• 11:38
  fact,
• 11:39
  had
• 11:40
  a.
• 11:42
  Might
• 11:42
  have
• 11:43
  had
• 11:43
  a
• 11:43
  professional
• 11:44
  career,
• 11:44
  but
• 11:44
  had
• 11:45
  a
• 11:45
  coal
• 11:46
  mining
• 11:46
  accident
• 11:47
  and
• 11:48
  that
• 11:48
  sort
• 11:48
  of
• 11:49
  steered
• 11:49
  him
• 11:49
  away
• 11:50
  from
• 11:50
  baseball.
• 11:53
  But
• 11:53
  they
• 11:54
  were,
• 11:54
  they
• 11:54
  were
• 11:54
  not
• 11:55
  affluent
• 11:55
  to
• 11:56
  say
• 11:56
  the
• 11:56
  least.
• 11:56
  And
• 11:56
  it
• 11:57
  took
• 11:57
  quite
• 11:57
  some
• 11:57
  time
• 11:58
  for
• 11:59
  Bill
• 12:00
  to
• 12:01
  find
• 12:02
  the
• 12:02
  money
• 12:02
  or
• 12:03
  earn
• 12:03
  the
• 12:03
  money
• 12:04
  to
• 12:04
  go
• 12:04
  out
• 12:04
  and
• 12:05
  buy
• 12:05
  a
• 12:06
  baseball
• 12:06
  glove.
• 12:08
  Yeah,
• 12:08
  and
• 12:09
  you're
• 12:09
  right,
• 12:10
  his
• 12:10
  father
• 12:11
  had
• 12:11
  a
• 12:11
  tryout
• 12:11
  with
• 12:11
  the
• 12:11
  Cleveland
• 12:12
  Indians,
• 12:12
  but
• 12:12
  because
• 12:13
  of
• 12:13
  the
• 12:13
  coal
• 12:13
  mining
• 12:13
  accident,
• 12:14
  that
• 12:14
  kind
• 12:14
  of
• 12:15
  destroyed
• 12:16
  his
• 12:16
  any
• 12:16
  chances
• 12:17
  he
• 12:17
  had
• 12:17
  for
• 12:18
  a
• 12:18
  baseball
• 12:18
  career.
• 12:19
  But
• 12:19
  Mazerosky,
• 12:21
  he
• 12:21
  was,
• 12:21
  he
• 12:22
  was
• 12:22
  raised
• 12:22
  in
• 12:23
  Tiltonsville,
• 12:24
  Ohio,
• 12:25
  and
• 12:25
  he
• 12:26
  wasn't
• 12:26
  just
• 12:26
  a
• 12:26
  baseball
• 12:26
  player.
• 12:27
  He
• 12:27
  was
• 12:27
  a
• 12:27
  very,
• 12:28
  very
• 12:28
  outstanding
• 12:29
  basketball
• 12:29
  player,
• 12:30
  for
• 12:30
  those
• 12:30
  who
• 12:30
  didn't
• 12:30
  know.
• 12:32
  And
• 12:33
  he
• 12:33
  had
• 12:34
  been
• 12:34
  courted
• 12:35
  by
• 12:35
  the
• 12:35
  Indians,
• 12:35
  the
• 12:36
  Red
• 12:36
  Sox,
• 12:37
  White
• 12:37
  Sox,
• 12:38
  the
• 12:38
  Phillies.
• 12:39
  But
• 12:40
  he
• 12:40
  decided
• 12:41
  to
• 12:41
  go
• 12:41
  with
• 12:41
  the
• 12:42
  Pirates
• 12:42
  because
• 12:43
  they
• 12:43
  decided
• 12:44
  to
• 12:44
  push
• 12:44
  him
• 12:45
  up
• 12:45
  in
• 12:45
  the
• 12:45
  minor
• 12:45
  leagues
• 12:46
  a
• 12:47
  lot
• 12:47
  faster
• 12:47
  than
• 12:47
  maybe
• 12:48
  some
• 12:48
  of
• 12:48
  the
• 12:48
  other
• 12:48
  teams
• 12:49
  would
• 12:49
  have.
• 12:49
  But
• 12:50
  they
• 12:50
  noticed
• 12:50
  his
• 12:50
  glove
• 12:51
  and
• 12:51
  I
• 12:51
  know,
• 12:51
  I
• 12:52
  heard
• 12:52
  a
• 12:52
  story
• 12:52
  recently
• 12:53
  about
• 12:54
  how
• 12:54
  he
• 12:54
  was
• 12:54
  teaching
• 12:55
  somebody
• 12:56
  like
• 12:57
  tricks
• 12:57
  what
• 12:57
  to
• 12:57
  do
• 12:57
  with
• 12:57
  your
• 12:57
  glove,
• 12:58
  how
• 12:58
  to
• 12:58
  be
• 12:58
  a
• 12:58
  really
• 12:59
  good
• 12:59
  fielder.
• 12:59
  So
• 12:59
  he
• 13:00
  just,
• 13:00
  he
• 13:00
  had
• 13:01
  that
• 13:01
  knack
• 13:02
  or
• 13:02
  just
• 13:02
  natural
• 13:03
  instinct
• 13:03
  to
• 13:03
  be
• 13:04
  a
• 13:04
  good
• 13:04
  defensive
• 13:05
  player.
• 13:08
  Tough
• 13:08
  question
• 13:08
  for
• 13:09
  you,
• 13:09
  Harvard.
• 13:14
  How
• 13:14
  revolutionary
• 13:16
  was
• 13:17
  his
• 13:17
  defensive
• 13:18
  style
• 13:19
  for
• 13:19
  that
• 13:20
  era?
• 13:20
  What
• 13:20
  separated
• 13:21
  him
• 13:22
  from
• 13:22
  other
• 13:23
  second
• 13:23
  basemen?
• 13:24
  You
• 13:24
  know,
• 13:25
  when
• 13:25
  we
• 13:25
  look
• 13:25
  at
• 13:25
  the
• 13:25
  game
• 13:26
  today,
• 13:26
  it's
• 13:27
  obvious
• 13:28
  when
• 13:28
  you
• 13:28
  talk
• 13:28
  about
• 13:29
  a
• 13:29
  guy
• 13:29
  like
• 13:30
  Shohei
• 13:30
  Ohtani
• 13:31
  and
• 13:32
  what
• 13:32
  separates
• 13:33
  him
• 13:34
  from
• 13:34
  every
• 13:34
  other
• 13:35
  ball
• 13:35
  player
• 13:35
  on
• 13:36
  the
• 13:36
  planet?
• 13:37
  Aaron
• 13:38
  Judge.
• 13:38
  What
• 13:39
  separates
• 13:39
  him
• 13:40
  from
• 13:41
  virtually
• 13:42
  every
• 13:42
  ball,
• 13:43
  every
• 13:43
  other
• 13:43
  ball
• 13:44
  player
• 13:44
  on
• 13:44
  the
• 13:45
  planet?
• 13:47
  His
• 13:48
  power
• 13:48
  is
• 13:49
  phenomenal.
• 13:50
  What
• 13:50
  is
• 13:51
  it
• 13:51
  about
• 13:53
  or
• 13:53
  what
• 13:53
  was
• 13:53
  it
• 13:54
  about?
• 13:55
  Mazarowski's
• 13:56
  defensive
• 13:57
  style
• 13:58
  for
• 13:58
  that
• 13:58
  era
• 14:00
  was
• 14:00
  he
• 14:01
  ahead
• 14:02
  of
• 14:02
  the
• 14:02
  game
• 14:02
  was.
• 14:04
  What
• 14:05
  was
• 14:05
  it?
• 14:06
  Well,
• 14:07
  I
• 14:07
  think,
• 14:07
  you
• 14:07
  know,
• 14:08
  baseball
• 14:08
  is
• 14:09
  much
• 14:09
  different
• 14:10
  now
• 14:10
  than
• 14:10
  it
• 14:10
  was
• 14:11
  back
• 14:11
  then.
• 14:12
  The
• 14:12
  money
• 14:13
  has
• 14:13
  changed
• 14:13
  the
• 14:13
  game,
• 14:14
  the
• 14:14
  salaries
• 14:14
  have
• 14:15
  changed
• 14:15
  the
• 14:15
  game.
• 14:15
  And
• 14:16
  I
• 14:16
  don't
• 14:16
  think
• 14:16
  these
• 14:16
  guys
• 14:17
  are
• 14:17
  as
• 14:17
  passionate
• 14:18
  about
• 14:18
  the
• 14:18
  game
• 14:19
  itself
• 14:19
  as
• 14:19
  they
• 14:19
  were
• 14:19
  back
• 14:20
  then.
• 14:20
  And
• 14:20
  I'm
• 14:21
  an
• 14:21
  old
• 14:21
  school
• 14:21
  guy.
• 14:22
  I
• 14:23
  love
• 14:23
  baseball
• 14:23
  for
• 14:24
  history
• 14:25
  back
• 14:25
  then
• 14:26
  and
• 14:26
  even
• 14:26
  before,
• 14:27
  way
• 14:27
  before
• 14:27
  I
• 14:27
  was
• 14:28
  born
• 14:28
  because
• 14:28
  they
• 14:28
  loved
• 14:29
  the
• 14:29
  game.
• 14:30
  And
• 14:30
  he
• 14:30
  was
• 14:30
  a
• 14:31
  hard
• 14:31
  worker.
• 14:31
  I
• 14:32
  mean,
• 14:32
  he
• 14:32
  worked
• 14:32
  at
• 14:32
  his
• 14:33
  fielding
• 14:33
  and
• 14:34
  he
• 14:34
  would
• 14:34
  go
• 14:34
  out
• 14:34
  there
• 14:35
  and
• 14:35
  practice,
• 14:35
  practice,
• 14:36
  practice.
• 14:37
  And
• 14:37
  his
• 14:38
  teammate,
• 14:38
  the
• 14:38
  great
• 14:38
  one,
• 14:39
  Roberto
• 14:39
  Clemente,
• 14:40
  unfortunately
• 14:40
  he's
• 14:40
  not
• 14:40
  with
• 14:40
  us
• 14:41
  anymore
• 14:41
  either.
• 14:41
  But
• 14:42
  I
• 14:43
  understand
• 14:43
  there
• 14:43
  were
• 14:43
  stories
• 14:44
  about
• 14:44
  him
• 14:44
  going
• 14:44
  out
• 14:45
  to
• 14:45
  Forbes
• 14:45
  Field
• 14:46
  on
• 14:47
  non
• 14:47
  game
• 14:47
  days
• 14:48
  and
• 14:48
  he
• 14:49
  would
• 14:49
  have
• 14:49
  somebody
• 14:49
  throw
• 14:50
  the
• 14:50
  ball
• 14:50
  off
• 14:50
  the
• 14:50
  wall
• 14:51
  with
• 14:51
  his
• 14:52
  back
• 14:52
  to
• 14:52
  the
• 14:52
  plate
• 14:53
  and
• 14:53
  then
• 14:54
  learn
• 14:54
  how
• 14:54
  to
• 14:54
  throw
• 14:54
  directly
• 14:55
  to
• 14:55
  home
• 14:55
  plate.
• 14:56
  And
• 14:56
  that's
• 14:56
  what
• 14:56
  with
• 14:56
  his
• 14:57
  rocket
• 14:57
  arm.
• 14:57
  But
• 14:58
  it
• 14:58
  just
• 14:58
  became
• 14:59
  instinct
• 14:59
  for
• 14:59
  him
• 15:00
  and
• 15:00
  the
• 15:01
  whole
• 15:01
  team
• 15:01
  was
• 15:01
  like
• 15:01
  that.
• 15:02
  They
• 15:02
  worked
• 15:02
  hard.
• 15:03
  Mazerosky
• 15:03
  worked
• 15:04
  hard
• 15:04
  at
• 15:05
  his
• 15:05
  skill
• 15:05
  and
• 15:05
  his
• 15:05
  craft.
• 15:06
  And
• 15:06
  so
• 15:07
  that
• 15:07
  set
• 15:07
  him
• 15:07
  apart.
• 15:09
  You
• 15:10
  know,
• 15:10
  earlier
• 15:11
  you,
• 15:11
  you
• 15:12
  mentioned
• 15:13
  that
• 15:13
  he
• 15:14
  holds
• 15:14
  the
• 15:14
  record
• 15:15
  for
• 15:16
  most
• 15:16
  double
• 15:16
  plays
• 15:17
  in
• 15:17
  a
• 15:17
  season
• 15:17
  with
• 15:18
  161.
• 15:19
  I
• 15:20
  mean,
• 15:20
  that's
• 15:20
  like
• 15:21
  a
• 15:21
  double
• 15:22
  play
• 15:22
  every
• 15:22
  single
• 15:23
  game.
• 15:24
  And
• 15:24
  that
• 15:24
  year
• 15:24
  he
• 15:25
  happened
• 15:25
  to
• 15:25
  play
• 15:25
  in
• 15:26
  162
• 15:27
  games.
• 15:28
  But
• 15:28
  if
• 15:28
  you
• 15:28
  look
• 15:29
  at
• 15:29
  it
• 15:29
  where,
• 15:30
  you
• 15:30
  know,
• 15:30
  he
• 15:31
  led
• 15:31
  the
• 15:31
  National
• 15:32
  League
• 15:32
  in
• 15:32
  double
• 15:33
  plays
• 15:33
  Starting
• 15:34
  in
• 15:34
  1960
• 15:35
  through
• 15:35
  1967,
• 15:37
  every
• 15:37
  single
• 15:38
  year.
• 15:39
  1271-441381-31122,
• 15:41
  113,
• 15:44
  161,
• 15:46
  131.
• 15:49
  I
• 15:49
  mean,
• 15:50
  phenomenal.
• 15:51
  And
• 15:52
  I
• 15:53
  read
• 15:54
  somewhere
• 15:55
  that
• 15:55
  teams
• 15:57
  feared
• 15:58
  his
• 15:59
  ability
• 16:00
  to
• 16:01
  turn
• 16:02
  a
• 16:02
  double
• 16:03
  play.
• 16:03
  I
• 16:04
  sort
• 16:04
  of
• 16:04
  liken
• 16:05
  it
• 16:05
  to
• 16:05
  football
• 16:06
  where,
• 16:08
  you
• 16:08
  know,
• 16:08
  teams
• 16:09
  scheme
• 16:11
  to
• 16:12
  run
• 16:12
  away
• 16:13
  from
• 16:13
  people,
• 16:14
  team
• 16:14
  scheme
• 16:16
  to,
• 16:16
  to,
• 16:18
  you
• 16:18
  know,
• 16:18
  against
• 16:19
  the
• 16:19
  other
• 16:19
  team's
• 16:20
  defense
• 16:20
  or
• 16:21
  offense
• 16:22
  in
• 16:22
  a
• 16:22
  particular
• 16:23
  way.
• 16:24
  Can
• 16:24
  you
• 16:24
  explain
• 16:25
  or
• 16:25
  is
• 16:26
  it
• 16:26
  possible
• 16:27
  to
• 16:27
  explain
• 16:29
  his
• 16:30
  double
• 16:30
  play
• 16:30
  ability
• 16:32
  and
• 16:33
  why
• 16:33
  it
• 16:33
  was,
• 16:35
  dare
• 16:36
  I
• 16:36
  say,
• 16:37
  fear
• 16:38
  by
• 16:38
  opposing
• 16:39
  teams?
• 16:40
  Yeah,
• 16:40
  well,
• 16:41
  I
• 16:41
  mean,
• 16:41
  if
• 16:41
  you
• 16:41
  knew
• 16:42
  as
• 16:42
  a
• 16:42
  batter
• 16:43
  you
• 16:43
  were
• 16:43
  hitting
• 16:43
  to
• 16:43
  the
• 16:43
  right
• 16:44
  side
• 16:44
  of
• 16:44
  the
• 16:44
  field,
• 16:45
  you
• 16:45
  better
• 16:46
  have
• 16:46
  a
• 16:46
  good
• 16:46
  shot
• 16:48
  away
• 16:48
  from
• 16:48
  Mazeroski,
• 16:49
  because
• 16:49
  he
• 16:49
  could
• 16:50
  cover
• 16:50
  the
• 16:50
  field.
• 16:51
  So
• 16:52
  to
• 16:52
  get
• 16:52
  a
• 16:52
  ball
• 16:52
  past
• 16:53
  him
• 16:53
  was
• 16:53
  very
• 16:53
  difficult.
• 16:54
  And
• 16:54
  you
• 16:55
  knew
• 16:55
  that
• 16:56
  he
• 16:57
  knew
• 16:57
  how
• 16:57
  to
• 16:57
  turn
• 16:57
  the
• 16:58
  double
• 16:58
  plays.
• 16:59
  So
• 16:59
  if
• 16:59
  you
• 16:59
  got
• 17:00
  a
• 17:00
  man
• 17:00
  on
• 17:00
  base
• 17:00
  and
• 17:01
  you're
• 17:01
  hitting
• 17:01
  at
• 17:01
  Mazaruski,
• 17:02
  you
• 17:02
  better
• 17:02
  count
• 17:03
  on
• 17:03
  the
• 17:03
  fact
• 17:03
  that
• 17:03
  you're
• 17:03
  probably
• 17:04
  going
• 17:04
  to.
• 17:04
  You've
• 17:04
  just
• 17:04
  grounded
• 17:05
  into
• 17:05
  a
• 17:05
  double
• 17:05
  play.
• 17:06
  He
• 17:06
  covered
• 17:06
  the
• 17:06
  field
• 17:07
  very
• 17:07
  well.
• 17:08
  And
• 17:08
  you
• 17:08
  wouldn't
• 17:08
  think
• 17:09
  of
• 17:09
  him
• 17:09
  like
• 17:09
  an
• 17:09
  Aussie
• 17:09
  Smith
• 17:10
  who
• 17:10
  was
• 17:10
  just
• 17:10
  so
• 17:10
  athletic
• 17:11
  and
• 17:11
  covered
• 17:11
  the
• 17:11
  field
• 17:12
  like
• 17:12
  unbelievably
• 17:14
  the
• 17:14
  Mazarovsky.
• 17:15
  Even
• 17:15
  despite,
• 17:16
  you
• 17:16
  know,
• 17:16
  his
• 17:16
  body
• 17:17
  frame
• 17:17
  and
• 17:17
  everything
• 17:17
  else,
• 17:17
  he
• 17:18
  was,
• 17:18
  he
• 17:18
  was
• 17:18
  just
• 17:19
  a
• 17:19
  fantastic
• 17:19
  defensive
• 17:20
  player.
• 17:21
  He
• 17:21
  knew
• 17:22
  how
• 17:22
  to
• 17:22
  field.
• 17:22
  And
• 17:23
  there's
• 17:23
  another
• 17:23
  number
• 17:24
  I
• 17:24
  was
• 17:24
  going
• 17:24
  to
• 17:24
  throw
• 17:24
  out
• 17:24
  there
• 17:25
  is
• 17:25
  that
• 17:26
  Joe
• 17:26
  Morgan
• 17:26
  eventually
• 17:27
  passed
• 17:27
  him
• 17:27
  up,
• 17:27
  but
• 17:28
  he
• 17:28
  is
• 17:28
  second
• 17:29
  all
• 17:29
  time
• 17:30
  history
• 17:32
  in
• 17:32
  the
• 17:34
  fielding
• 17:34
  percentage
• 17:35
  and
• 17:35
  Mazerosky's
• 17:36
  number
• 17:36
  ended
• 17:37
  up
• 17:37
  at
• 17:37
  983.
• 17:37
  I
• 17:38
  mean
• 17:38
  that's
• 17:38
  just
• 17:38
  a
• 17:39
  crazy
• 17:39
  number.
• 17:40
  Think
• 17:40
  of
• 17:40
  that
• 17:40
  in
• 17:41
  983.
• 17:42
  That's
• 17:42
  like
• 17:42
  making
• 17:43
  hardly
• 17:43
  any
• 17:43
  errors.
• 17:44
  It's
• 17:44
  unbelievable.
• 17:47
  Like
• 17:47
  you
• 17:48
  said,
• 17:48
  the
• 17:48
  game
• 17:48
  is
• 17:48
  different
• 17:49
  today
• 17:49
  than
• 17:50
  it
• 17:50
  was
• 17:50
  back
• 17:51
  then.
• 17:52
  But
• 17:53
  how
• 17:54
  do.
• 17:56
  I
• 17:56
  don't
• 17:56
  know.
• 17:56
  Again,
• 17:57
  if
• 17:57
  you
• 17:57
  can
• 17:57
  answer
• 17:57
  this,
• 17:58
  how
• 17:58
  do
• 17:58
  modern
• 17:59
  defensive
• 17:59
  metrics
• 18:01
  you,
• 18:02
  Mazarowski,
• 18:03
  compared
• 18:03
  to
• 18:04
  his
• 18:04
  contemporaries?
• 18:07
  Yeah,
• 18:07
  so
• 18:07
  I
• 18:07
  don't
• 18:08
  look
• 18:08
  at
• 18:08
  statistics
• 18:09
  that
• 18:09
  much.
• 18:09
  I
• 18:09
  mean
• 18:09
  there's
• 18:10
  so
• 18:10
  many
• 18:10
  baseball
• 18:10
  statistics
• 18:11
  now,
• 18:11
  it's
• 18:12
  half
• 18:12
  of
• 18:12
  them.
• 18:12
  I
• 18:12
  don't
• 18:12
  even
• 18:12
  know
• 18:13
  what
• 18:13
  they
• 18:13
  mean.
• 18:13
  When
• 18:13
  I
• 18:13
  was
• 18:14
  growing
• 18:14
  up
• 18:14
  it
• 18:14
  was,
• 18:15
  you
• 18:15
  know,
• 18:16
  you're
• 18:16
  looking
• 18:16
  at
• 18:16
  bats,
• 18:17
  runs,
• 18:17
  hits,
• 18:18
  average,
• 18:18
  home
• 18:18
  runs,
• 18:19
  stolen
• 18:19
  bases,
• 18:19
  triples,
• 18:20
  RBIs
• 18:21
  and
• 18:22
  you
• 18:22
  know,
• 18:22
  from
• 18:22
  the
• 18:23
  offensive
• 18:23
  side
• 18:24
  now
• 18:24
  they've
• 18:24
  got
• 18:24
  so
• 18:25
  many
• 18:25
  numbers
• 18:25
  and
• 18:26
  half
• 18:26
  of
• 18:26
  them,
• 18:26
  I
• 18:26
  don't
• 18:26
  even
• 18:27
  understand
• 18:27
  the
• 18:28
  WAR
• 18:28
  and
• 18:28
  the
• 18:29
  OPS
• 18:30
  and
• 18:30
  all
• 18:30
  this
• 18:30
  other
• 18:31
  stuff.
• 18:31
  And
• 18:32
  it's
• 18:33
  hard
• 18:33
  to
• 18:33
  say
• 18:35
  comparing
• 18:35
  stats
• 18:36
  today
• 18:37
  versus
• 18:37
  stats
• 18:37
  back
• 18:38
  then.
• 18:40
  Well,
• 18:40
  he
• 18:41
  does
• 18:41
  have,
• 18:41
  like
• 18:41
  you
• 18:42
  said,
• 18:42
  the
• 18:42
  career
• 18:43
  record
• 18:43
  for
• 18:44
  double
• 18:44
  plays
• 18:45
  turned
• 18:45
  with
• 18:45
  1706.
• 18:48
  And
• 18:48
  here's
• 18:49
  one
• 18:49
  of
• 18:49
  those
• 18:50
  defensive
• 18:50
  metrics
• 18:51
  for
• 18:51
  you.
• 18:53
  Total
• 18:53
  zone,
• 18:54
  total
• 18:54
  fielding
• 18:55
  runs
• 18:55
  above
• 18:56
  average,
• 18:56
  148,
• 18:58
  whatever
• 18:58
  that
• 18:58
  means.
• 18:59
  That's
• 18:59
  a
• 19:00
  career
• 19:00
  record.
• 19:02
  So.
• 19:02
  Yeah.
• 19:03
  Is
• 19:03
  it,
• 19:04
  is
• 19:04
  it
• 19:04
  fair
• 19:05
  to
• 19:05
  say
• 19:07
  his
• 19:07
  glove
• 19:08
  alone
• 19:09
  was
• 19:09
  hall
• 19:09
  of
• 19:10
  Fame
• 19:10
  worthy?
• 19:11
  Why
• 19:12
  or
• 19:12
  why
• 19:12
  not?
• 19:13
  I
• 19:13
  mean,
• 19:13
  if
• 19:13
  he
• 19:14
  didn't
• 19:14
  hit
• 19:15
  that
• 19:15
  home
• 19:15
  run
• 19:16
  in
• 19:16
  1960,
• 19:18
  would
• 19:18
  he
• 19:19
  still
• 19:19
  be
• 19:19
  in
• 19:19
  the
• 19:19
  hall
• 19:20
  of
• 19:20
  Fame?
• 19:21
  I
• 19:21
  think
• 19:22
  absolutely
• 19:22
  yes.
• 19:23
  And
• 19:23
  that's
• 19:23
  only
• 19:24
  based
• 19:24
  on
• 19:24
  his
• 19:24
  defensive
• 19:25
  numbers.
• 19:26
  I
• 19:26
  mean,
• 19:26
  I
• 19:26
  don't
• 19:26
  know
• 19:26
  how
• 19:27
  you,
• 19:27
  you
• 19:28
  can't
• 19:28
  just,
• 19:28
  I
• 19:28
  don't
• 19:29
  think
• 19:29
  you
• 19:29
  can
• 19:29
  just
• 19:29
  put
• 19:30
  a
• 19:30
  guy
• 19:30
  in
• 19:30
  the
• 19:30
  hall
• 19:30
  of
• 19:30
  Fame
• 19:31
  based
• 19:31
  on
• 19:31
  what
• 19:31
  he
• 19:31
  does
• 19:32
  offensively.
• 19:33
  Defense
• 19:33
  is
• 19:33
  part
• 19:34
  of
• 19:34
  the
• 19:34
  game.
• 19:35
  Fielding
• 19:35
  is
• 19:36
  part
• 19:36
  of
• 19:36
  the
• 19:36
  game.
• 19:36
  And
• 19:37
  if
• 19:37
  you're
• 19:37
  the
• 19:37
  best
• 19:37
  of
• 19:37
  the
• 19:38
  best,
• 19:38
  there's
• 19:39
  no
• 19:39
  reason
• 19:39
  why
• 19:39
  you
• 19:39
  shouldn't
• 19:40
  be
• 19:40
  in
• 19:40
  the
• 19:40
  hall
• 19:40
  of
• 19:40
  Fame.
• 19:43
  And
• 19:43
  he
• 19:43
  did
• 19:43
  win
• 19:43
  another
• 19:44
  World
• 19:44
  Series
• 19:44
  too.
• 19:47
  Yeah,
• 19:48
  yeah,
• 19:50
  he,
• 19:50
  he,
• 19:51
  he
• 19:51
  was
• 19:52
  a
• 19:52
  part
• 19:52
  of
• 19:52
  that
• 19:53
  1971
• 19:54
  team.
• 19:57
  I'll
• 19:57
  tell
• 19:58
  you
• 19:58
  where
• 19:58
  Annette
• 19:58
  is.
• 19:59
  Of
• 19:59
  all
• 19:59
  the
• 19:59
  pirate
• 20:00
  teams
• 20:00
  I've
• 20:00
  ever
• 20:00
  watched,
• 20:01
  that
• 20:01
  is
• 20:01
  my
• 20:01
  absolute
• 20:02
  favorite
• 20:02
  team
• 20:03
  all
• 20:03
  time.
• 20:04
  Despite
• 20:05
  them
• 20:05
  winning
• 20:05
  it
• 20:06
  again
• 20:06
  in
• 20:06
  79,
• 20:06
  which
• 20:07
  I
• 20:07
  went
• 20:07
  to
• 20:07
  all
• 20:07
  three
• 20:08
  World
• 20:08
  Series
• 20:08
  games
• 20:08
  in
• 20:08
  Pittsburgh.
• 20:09
  And
• 20:10
  at
• 20:10
  that
• 20:10
  time
• 20:10
  I
• 20:10
  was
• 20:10
  about
• 20:11
  18
• 20:11
  years
• 20:11
  old,
• 20:11
  so
• 20:12
  I
• 20:12
  was
• 20:12
  able
• 20:12
  to
• 20:12
  understand
• 20:12
  it
• 20:13
  much
• 20:13
  better
• 20:13
  than
• 20:13
  when
• 20:13
  I
• 20:13
  was
• 20:14
  younger.
• 20:15
  71
• 20:15
  World
• 20:16
  Series
• 20:16
  is
• 20:16
  really
• 20:16
  when
• 20:16
  I
• 20:17
  started
• 20:17
  watching
• 20:17
  baseball.
• 20:18
  And
• 20:18
  I
• 20:19
  repeat
• 20:19
  the
• 20:19
  story
• 20:20
  so
• 20:20
  many
• 20:20
  times.
• 20:20
  I
• 20:21
  remember
• 20:21
  going
• 20:21
  up
• 20:21
  to
• 20:21
  my
• 20:21
  father's
• 20:22
  bedroom.
• 20:22
  He
• 20:22
  had
• 20:23
  the
• 20:23
  television
• 20:23
  on
• 20:24
  and
• 20:24
  Roberto
• 20:25
  Clemente
• 20:25
  is
• 20:25
  at
• 20:25
  the
• 20:26
  plate.
• 20:26
  I
• 20:26
  never
• 20:27
  watched
• 20:27
  a
• 20:27
  baseball
• 20:27
  game
• 20:27
  before.
• 20:28
  And
• 20:29
  he
• 20:29
  hits
• 20:29
  a
• 20:29
  home
• 20:29
  run
• 20:30
  to
• 20:30
  put
• 20:30
  the
• 20:30
  Pirates
• 20:31
  out
• 20:31
  in
• 20:31
  front.
• 20:31
  I
• 20:32
  was
• 20:32
  an
• 20:32
  instant
• 20:32
  Pirate
• 20:33
  fan,
• 20:33
  instant
• 20:34
  Roberto
• 20:34
  Clemente
• 20:35
  fan.
• 20:35
  And
• 20:35
  from
• 20:35
  that
• 20:36
  point
• 20:36
  forward,
• 20:36
  I
• 20:36
  became
• 20:36
  a
• 20:37
  baseball
• 20:37
  fan.
• 20:37
  But
• 20:37
  my
• 20:37
  next
• 20:38
  door
• 20:38
  neighbor
• 20:39
  came
• 20:39
  down,
• 20:39
  knocked
• 20:39
  on
• 20:40
  my
• 20:40
  door,
• 20:40
  and
• 20:40
  asked
• 20:41
  my
• 20:41
  father,
• 20:41
  can
• 20:41
  I
• 20:41
  take
• 20:42
  your
• 20:42
  son
• 20:42
  downtown,
• 20:42
  watch
• 20:43
  the
• 20:43
  celebration.
• 20:44
  And
• 20:45
  downtown
• 20:45
  we
• 20:45
  went.
• 20:46
  And
• 20:46
  I
• 20:46
  was
• 20:46
  just.
• 20:47
  After
• 20:47
  that,
• 20:48
  the
• 20:48
  rest
• 20:49
  is
• 20:49
  history.
• 20:49
  Just
• 20:50
  become
• 20:50
  a
• 20:50
  lifelong
• 20:51
  baseball
• 20:51
  fan.
• 20:51
  But
• 20:51
  Clemente
• 20:52
  was
• 20:52
  my
• 20:52
  boyhood
• 20:52
  hero.
• 20:54
  I
• 20:54
  mean,
• 20:55
  Warren,
• 20:55
  to
• 20:55
  this
• 20:55
  day,
• 20:56
  it
• 20:56
  still
• 20:56
  seems
• 20:56
  surreal
• 20:57
  that
• 20:57
  he's
• 20:57
  not
• 20:57
  here.
• 20:58
  Just.
• 21:00
  Yeah,
• 21:01
  yeah,
• 21:01
  I
• 21:01
  remember
• 21:02
  when
• 21:02
  it
• 21:02
  happened.
• 21:02
  I
• 21:03
  was
• 21:03
  actually
• 21:03
  in
• 21:03
  Florida
• 21:04
  on
• 21:04
  a
• 21:04
  family
• 21:05
  vacation.
• 21:07
  But
• 21:07
  yeah,
• 21:07
  that
• 21:07
  71
• 21:08
  team
• 21:08
  you
• 21:08
  had.
• 21:09
  San
• 21:09
  Guillen,
• 21:10
  Bill
• 21:10
  Robertson,
• 21:11
  Dave
• 21:11
  Cash,
• 21:12
  of
• 21:13
  course,
• 21:13
  of
• 21:14
  course
• 21:14
  Clemente
• 21:15
  and
• 21:15
  Willie
• 21:16
  Stargell,
• 21:17
  Al
• 21:17
  Oliver,
• 21:18
  Gene
• 21:18
  Alley,
• 21:19
  Richie
• 21:19
  Hebner.
• 21:20
  I
• 21:20
  mean,
• 21:20
  it
• 21:21
  was
• 21:21
  a.
• 21:21
  It
• 21:21
  was
• 21:21
  a
• 21:22
  great
• 21:22
  key.
• 21:23
  But
• 21:23
  when
• 21:23
  we.
• 21:23
  And,
• 21:24
  and
• 21:24
  of
• 21:24
  course
• 21:25
  Mazeroski
• 21:26
  was
• 21:26
  there.
• 21:26
  Oh,
• 21:27
  yeah,
• 21:27
  the
• 21:27
  pitching,
• 21:28
  the
• 21:28
  pitching
• 21:29
  was
• 21:29
  great
• 21:29
  too.
• 21:29
  I
• 21:30
  mean,
• 21:30
  that
• 21:30
  was
• 21:30
  Steve
• 21:31
  Blass
• 21:32
  right
• 21:32
  before.
• 21:33
  Before
• 21:35
  he
• 21:35
  lost
• 21:36
  control.
• 21:36
  Battle.
• 21:37
  Yeah,
• 21:38
  control.
• 21:39
  Doc
• 21:40
  Ellis,
• 21:40
  I
• 21:40
  mean,
• 21:41
  Bob
• 21:41
  Moose,
• 21:42
  Nelson
• 21:42
  Briles.
• 21:43
  It
• 21:43
  was
• 21:44
  a
• 21:44
  fun
• 21:44
  team.
• 21:44
  And
• 21:45
  they
• 21:45
  beat
• 21:45
  one
• 21:46
  Justy.
• 21:47
  The
• 21:47
  Orioles
• 21:48
  team
• 21:49
  that
• 21:49
  year,
• 21:49
  they
• 21:50
  had.
• 21:50
  Four
• 21:51
  20
• 21:51
  game
• 21:51
  winners
• 21:51
  that
• 21:52
  year.
• 21:53
  I'm
• 21:53
  sorry,
• 21:54
  four
• 21:54
  20
• 21:55
  game
• 21:55
  winners
• 21:55
  that
• 21:55
  year.
• 21:56
  Still
• 21:57
  lost.
• 21:57
  Macanali,
• 22:00
  Palmer
• 22:01
  and.
• 22:02
  Oh,
• 22:02
  gosh,
• 22:03
  who
• 22:03
  was
• 22:03
  the
• 22:03
  fourth?
• 22:04
  I
• 22:04
  could
• 22:04
  see
• 22:04
  him.
• 22:07
  Yeah,
• 22:09
  I
• 22:09
  know
• 22:09
  you're
• 22:09
  talking
• 22:10
  about.
• 22:10
  I
• 22:10
  can't
• 22:10
  remember.
• 22:11
  Jim
• 22:11
  Palmer,
• 22:13
  Dave
• 22:13
  McInally
• 22:15
  and
• 22:16
  Pat
• 22:16
  Dobson.
• 22:17
  It
• 22:17
  was
• 22:17
  Pat
• 22:17
  Dobson.
• 22:18
  Those
• 22:18
  four
• 22:19
  guys
• 22:19
  each
• 22:20
  won
• 22:20
  20
• 22:20
  games.
• 22:22
  You
• 22:22
  don't
• 22:22
  even
• 22:22
  get
• 22:23
  four
• 22:23
  20
• 22:23
  game
• 22:23
  winners
• 22:24
  in
• 22:24
  all
• 22:24
  baseball
• 22:25
  in
• 22:25
  a
• 22:25
  season
• 22:25
  anymore.
• 22:26
  Just.
• 22:27
  No,
• 22:27
  absolutely,
• 22:28
  absolutely
• 22:30
  crazy.
• 22:32
  Back
• 22:32
  to.
• 22:33
  Back
• 22:33
  to
• 22:34
  Mazarovsky.
• 22:35
  You
• 22:35
  know,
• 22:36
  his
• 22:36
  offensive
• 22:37
  numbers,
• 22:37
  they
• 22:38
  don't
• 22:39
  jump
• 22:39
  off
• 22:39
  the
• 22:39
  page.
• 22:42
  Career
• 22:43
  260
• 22:44
  hitter.
• 22:46
  Career
• 22:46
  138
• 22:48
  home
• 22:48
  runs.
• 22:48
  I
• 22:48
  think
• 22:48
  the
• 22:49
  most
• 22:49
  he
• 22:49
  had
• 22:49
  in
• 22:49
  the
• 22:49
  season
• 22:50
  was
• 22:50
  19
• 22:51
  back
• 22:51
  in
• 22:52
  58.
• 22:53
  And
• 22:53
  even
• 22:53
  that
• 22:54
  great
• 22:54
  1960
• 22:55
  season,
• 22:56
  he
• 22:57
  did
• 22:57
  hit.273,
• 22:58
  11
• 22:59
  home
• 22:59
  runs,
• 23:00
  64
• 23:01
  RBI.
• 23:03
  How
• 23:03
  much
• 23:06
  do
• 23:06
  you
• 23:07
  think.
• 23:11
  His.
• 23:13
  The
• 23:13
  fact
• 23:13
  that
• 23:14
  he
• 23:14
  wasn't
• 23:15
  a
• 23:15
  very
• 23:15
  strong
• 23:16
  offensive
• 23:17
  player,
• 23:18
  how
• 23:19
  much
• 23:19
  did
• 23:19
  that
• 23:19
  hurt
• 23:20
  his
• 23:20
  reputation
• 23:22
  during
• 23:22
  his
• 23:22
  career
• 23:23
  and
• 23:24
  what
• 23:24
  were
• 23:24
  his
• 23:24
  strengths?
• 23:25
  As
• 23:26
  a,
• 23:26
  as
• 23:26
  a
• 23:27
  hitter?
• 23:28
  Yeah,
• 23:28
  I
• 23:28
  mean,
• 23:29
  he's
• 23:29
  a
• 23:29
  good
• 23:29
  contact
• 23:29
  hitter
• 23:30
  and
• 23:30
  he
• 23:31
  may
• 23:31
  not
• 23:31
  have
• 23:31
  had
• 23:31
  these
• 23:32
  great
• 23:32
  numbers,
• 23:33
  but
• 23:33
  again,
• 23:34
  everybody's
• 23:35
  looking
• 23:35
  at
• 23:35
  him
• 23:35
  as
• 23:35
  like
• 23:36
  a
• 23:36
  great
• 23:36
  defensive
• 23:37
  second
• 23:37
  baseman,
• 23:38
  so.
• 23:39
  And
• 23:39
  he
• 23:39
  had
• 23:39
  so
• 23:40
  much
• 23:40
  talent
• 23:40
  around
• 23:40
  him
• 23:41
  in
• 23:41
  the
• 23:41
  lineup
• 23:41
  all
• 23:42
  the
• 23:42
  time.
• 23:43
  You
• 23:43
  know,
• 23:44
  a
• 23:45
  lot
• 23:45
  wasn't
• 23:45
  expected
• 23:45
  of
• 23:46
  him
• 23:46
  because
• 23:46
  he
• 23:46
  knew
• 23:46
  he
• 23:46
  had
• 23:47
  great
• 23:47
  support
• 23:47
  up
• 23:48
  and
• 23:48
  down
• 23:48
  the
• 23:48
  lineup.
• 23:49
  So
• 23:50
  I
• 23:50
  really
• 23:50
  think
• 23:50
  that,
• 23:51
  you
• 23:51
  know,
• 23:51
  he
• 23:52
  was
• 23:52
  a
• 23:52
  good
• 23:52
  contact
• 23:53
  hitter.
• 23:53
  He
• 23:53
  had
• 23:53
  a
• 23:53
  decent
• 23:54
  average,
• 23:55
  you
• 23:56
  know,
• 23:56
  and
• 23:56
  it's
• 23:57
  just.
• 23:57
  He
• 23:57
  had
• 23:58
  167
• 23:58
  hits
• 23:59
  in
• 23:59
  1967.
• 24:00
  That's
• 24:00
  really
• 24:00
  not
• 24:00
  bad.
• 24:02
  261.
• 24:03
  His
• 24:03
  highest
• 24:04
  average
• 24:04
  was
• 24:04
  283.
• 24:05
  And
• 24:05
  that
• 24:05
  would
• 24:05
  have
• 24:05
  been
• 24:05
  his
• 24:05
  second
• 24:06
  year.
• 24:07
  But
• 24:07
  lifetime
• 24:08
  average,
• 24:09
  you
• 24:09
  know,
• 24:09
  260.
• 24:10
  It's
• 24:10
  not
• 24:10
  shabby.
• 24:11
  I
• 24:11
  mean,
• 24:11
  it's
• 24:12
  nothing,
• 24:13
  you
• 24:13
  know,
• 24:13
  that
• 24:14
  terrible.
• 24:14
  But
• 24:15
  again,
• 24:16
  it's
• 24:16
  his
• 24:16
  glove.
• 24:17
  It's
• 24:17
  all
• 24:18
  about
• 24:18
  his
• 24:18
  glove
• 24:18
  and
• 24:19
  his
• 24:19
  defensive
• 24:19
  skills.
• 24:21
  When
• 24:22
  we
• 24:22
  look
• 24:22
  at
• 24:22
  the
• 24:22
  game
• 24:23
  today,
• 24:25
  and
• 24:26
  power
• 24:28
  exit
• 24:29
  velocity
• 24:31
  being
• 24:32
  so
• 24:35
  magnified
• 24:36
  and
• 24:37
  so
• 24:37
  crucial
• 24:38
  in
• 24:39
  the
• 24:39
  way
• 24:39
  the
• 24:39
  game
• 24:40
  is
• 24:40
  played
• 24:40
  today,
• 24:42
  would
• 24:43
  a
• 24:43
  player
• 24:44
  like
• 24:44
  Bill
• 24:44
  Mazeroski,
• 24:45
  again,
• 24:47
  is
• 24:47
  in
• 24:47
  the
• 24:47
  hall
• 24:48
  of
• 24:48
  Fame,
• 24:49
  a
• 24:49
  great
• 24:50
  defensive
• 24:50
  ball
• 24:51
  player.
• 24:52
  Would
• 24:52
  a
• 24:53
  player
• 24:53
  like
• 24:53
  Bill
• 24:54
  Mazeroski
• 24:56
  have
• 24:56
  been
• 24:57
  given
• 24:57
  a
• 24:57
  shot
• 24:58
  to
• 24:58
  even
• 24:59
  make
• 24:59
  it
• 24:59
  to
• 24:59
  the
• 24:59
  majors?
• 25:01
  That's
• 25:02
  a
• 25:02
  good
• 25:02
  question.
• 25:03
  And
• 25:04
  because
• 25:04
  so
• 25:04
  much
• 25:04
  emphasis
• 25:05
  is
• 25:05
  on
• 25:05
  offense
• 25:06
  these
• 25:06
  days
• 25:06
  and
• 25:07
  solid
• 25:07
  pitching
• 25:08
  and
• 25:08
  the
• 25:08
  pitching
• 25:08
  has
• 25:08
  been
• 25:09
  outstanding.
• 25:09
  I
• 25:09
  mean,
• 25:09
  the
• 25:09
  Pirates
• 25:10
  right
• 25:10
  now
• 25:10
  are
• 25:10
  just
• 25:11
  doing
• 25:11
  really
• 25:12
  well
• 25:12
  pitching,
• 25:12
  but
• 25:13
  it's
• 25:13
  interesting
• 25:13
  work
• 25:14
  because
• 25:14
  I
• 25:14
  just
• 25:14
  saw
• 25:14
  something
• 25:15
  the
• 25:15
  other
• 25:15
  day
• 25:15
  about
• 25:16
  the
• 25:16
  100
• 25:16
  mile
• 25:17
  an
• 25:17
  hour
• 25:17
  pitchers
• 25:18
  because
• 25:18
  Bubba
• 25:19
  Chandler
• 25:19
  of
• 25:19
  the
• 25:19
  pirates
• 25:20
  went
• 25:20
  over
• 25:20
  100
• 25:21
  the
• 25:21
  other
• 25:22
  day.
• 25:22
  They
• 25:23
  said
• 25:23
  like
• 25:24
  10
• 25:24
  years
• 25:24
  ago,
• 25:24
  I
• 25:25
  think
• 25:25
  it
• 25:25
  was
• 25:25
  maybe
• 25:25
  there
• 25:26
  was
• 25:26
  20
• 25:26
  pitchers
• 25:26
  in
• 25:27
  all
• 25:27
  of
• 25:27
  baseball
• 25:27
  that
• 25:27
  could
• 25:27
  throw
• 25:28
  over
• 25:28
  100
• 25:30
  consistently.
• 25:30
  Today
• 25:31
  there's,
• 25:31
  I
• 25:31
  think
• 25:31
  they
• 25:31
  said
• 25:32
  30.
• 25:33
  So
• 25:34
  the
• 25:34
  pitchers
• 25:34
  are
• 25:35
  throwing
• 25:35
  much
• 25:35
  harder
• 25:36
  and
• 25:36
  there's
• 25:37
  more
• 25:37
  and
• 25:37
  more
• 25:37
  of
• 25:37
  them
• 25:38
  coming.
• 25:39
  So
• 25:40
  baseball
• 25:41
  is
• 25:41
  a
• 25:41
  sport
• 25:41
  where
• 25:42
  I
• 25:42
  don't
• 25:42
  think
• 25:42
  too
• 25:42
  many
• 25:43
  pitchers
• 25:43
  back
• 25:43
  then,
• 25:45
  prior
• 25:45
  to,
• 25:46
  you
• 25:46
  know,
• 25:47
  the
• 25:47
  current
• 25:47
  era,
• 25:48
  threw
• 25:48
  that
• 25:48
  hard.
• 25:49
  They
• 25:50
  might
• 25:50
  have
• 25:50
  had
• 25:50
  good
• 25:50
  curveballs
• 25:51
  and
• 25:52
  some
• 25:52
  decent
• 25:53
  fastballs
• 25:53
  and
• 25:54
  sliders
• 25:54
  and
• 25:54
  other
• 25:54
  trick
• 25:55
  pitches,
• 25:55
  but
• 25:56
  the
• 25:56
  way
• 25:56
  they
• 25:56
  throw
• 25:57
  fast
• 25:57
  these
• 25:57
  days,
• 25:58
  I
• 25:58
  don't
• 25:58
  know.
• 26:00
  Yeah,
• 26:00
  I
• 26:00
  mean,
• 26:01
  back
• 26:01
  then,
• 26:02
  pitchers,
• 26:03
  pitchers
• 26:04
  pitch.
• 26:05
  Not
• 26:05
  only
• 26:05
  do
• 26:05
  they
• 26:05
  have
• 26:06
  a
• 26:06
  fastball,
• 26:06
  they
• 26:07
  had
• 26:07
  a
• 26:07
  curveball.
• 26:08
  He
• 26:08
  had
• 26:08
  a
• 26:09
  change,
• 26:10
  he
• 26:10
  had
• 26:10
  a
• 26:10
  slider.
• 26:11
  They
• 26:12
  pitched,
• 26:13
  they.
• 26:13
  They
• 26:13
  knew,
• 26:14
  they
• 26:14
  knew
• 26:15
  how
• 26:15
  to
• 26:15
  hit
• 26:15
  their
• 26:15
  spots.
• 26:17
  And
• 26:17
  it
• 26:17
  wasn't
• 26:18
  about
• 26:19
  throw
• 26:19
  as
• 26:19
  hard
• 26:19
  as
• 26:19
  you
• 26:20
  can
• 26:20
  for
• 26:20
  five
• 26:20
  or
• 26:20
  six
• 26:21
  innings
• 26:21
  and
• 26:21
  then
• 26:21
  let
• 26:22
  the
• 26:22
  bullpen
• 26:22
  take
• 26:23
  over.
• 26:23
  You
• 26:23
  had
• 26:24
  guys
• 26:24
  like
• 26:25
  Sandy
• 26:25
  Koufax
• 26:26
  and
• 26:26
  Bob
• 26:27
  Gibson
• 26:27
  and
• 26:28
  Tom
• 26:28
  Seaver,
• 26:29
  and
• 26:30
  even
• 26:30
  in
• 26:30
  the
• 26:30
  later
• 26:31
  years,
• 26:31
  all
• 26:31
  the
• 26:31
  way
• 26:31
  up
• 26:32
  to
• 26:32
  Greg
• 26:32
  Maddox.
• 26:33
  These
• 26:33
  guys
• 26:34
  knew
• 26:34
  how
• 26:34
  to
• 26:34
  set
• 26:35
  you
• 26:35
  up
• 26:35
  for
• 26:36
  games
• 26:36
  down
• 26:36
  the
• 26:37
  line.
• 26:37
  Today,
• 26:38
  it's
• 26:39
  all
• 26:39
  about
• 26:40
  getting
• 26:40
  in
• 26:40
  there
• 26:40
  and
• 26:41
  throwing
• 26:41
  it
• 26:41
  as
• 26:41
  hard
• 26:42
  as
• 26:42
  you
• 26:42
  can.
• 26:42
  Sure,
• 26:43
  you
• 26:43
  have
• 26:43
  a
• 26:43
  couple
• 26:43
  of
• 26:44
  these
• 26:44
  young
• 26:44
  guys
• 26:45
  who
• 26:45
  can
• 26:45
  throw
• 26:46
  really
• 26:46
  hard,
• 26:48
  but
• 26:48
  they
• 26:49
  can
• 26:49
  also
• 26:49
  shake
• 26:49
  pitches.
• 26:50
  Paul
• 26:51
  Schemes,
• 26:53
  Nolan
• 26:54
  McClain.
• 26:55
  You
• 26:55
  know,
• 26:56
  you
• 26:56
  got
• 26:56
  guys
• 26:56
  like
• 26:57
  that
• 26:57
  who
• 26:58
  I
• 26:58
  like
• 26:59
  to
• 26:59
  think
• 26:59
  are
• 26:59
  more
• 26:59
  of
• 27:00
  a
• 27:00
  throwback
• 27:01
  towards
• 27:01
  what
• 27:01
  it
• 27:01
  used
• 27:02
  to
• 27:02
  be,
• 27:02
  but
• 27:03
  the
• 27:03
  difference
• 27:03
  is
• 27:04
  they.
• 27:04
  They
• 27:04
  too
• 27:05
  can
• 27:05
  throw
• 27:05
  it
• 27:05
  upwards
• 27:06
  of
• 27:06
  100
• 27:06
  miles
• 27:07
  an
• 27:07
  hour.
• 27:08
  Yeah,
• 27:08
  I
• 27:08
  like
• 27:09
  how
• 27:09
  you
• 27:09
  term
• 27:09
  that
• 27:09
  throwback,
• 27:10
  because
• 27:10
  Skeens
• 27:11
  definitely
• 27:11
  is
• 27:11
  a
• 27:12
  throwback.
• 27:12
  I
• 27:12
  mean,
• 27:12
  he
• 27:13
  throws
• 27:13
  stuff
• 27:14
  that's
• 27:14
  just
• 27:14
  uncanny.
• 27:16
  His
• 27:16
  pitches
• 27:17
  can
• 27:17
  do
• 27:17
  all
• 27:17
  kinds
• 27:17
  of
• 27:18
  things.
• 27:18
  It
• 27:19
  just
• 27:19
  made
• 27:19
  me
• 27:19
  remind
• 27:19
  me
• 27:20
  a
• 27:20
  second
• 27:20
  ago
• 27:20
  of
• 27:20
  Ramon
• 27:21
  Hernandez.
• 27:21
  It
• 27:22
  was
• 27:22
  on
• 27:22
  that
• 27:22
  71
• 27:22
  Pirates
• 27:23
  team,
• 27:23
  and
• 27:24
  I'll
• 27:24
  never
• 27:24
  forget
• 27:24
  it.
• 27:25
  He
• 27:25
  had
• 27:25
  his
• 27:25
  specialty
• 27:26
  pitch
• 27:26
  was
• 27:26
  a
• 27:26
  screwball.
• 27:27
  And
• 27:28
  I
• 27:28
  remember
• 27:28
  throwing
• 27:29
  the
• 27:29
  screwball
• 27:29
  once
• 27:29
  and
• 27:29
  that
• 27:30
  ball
• 27:30
  was
• 27:30
  just
• 27:31
  moving
• 27:31
  all
• 27:31
  over
• 27:31
  the
• 27:32
  place.
• 27:32
  I
• 27:32
  said,
• 27:32
  how
• 27:32
  did
• 27:32
  he
• 27:33
  do
• 27:33
  that?
• 27:34
  I
• 27:34
  mean,
• 27:34
  it
• 27:34
  was
• 27:34
  just
• 27:34
  the
• 27:35
  craziest
• 27:35
  thing,
• 27:35
  how
• 27:36
  it
• 27:36
  went
• 27:36
  to
• 27:37
  home
• 27:37
  plate,
• 27:37
  not
• 27:37
  in
• 27:38
  a
• 27:38
  straight
• 27:38
  line.
• 27:38
  It
• 27:38
  was
• 27:38
  doing
• 27:39
  all
• 27:39
  kinds
• 27:39
  of
• 27:39
  crazy
• 27:39
  things.
• 27:40
  And
• 27:40
  of
• 27:40
  course,
• 27:40
  the
• 27:40
  batter
• 27:40
  whiffed
• 27:41
  on.
• 27:41
  A
• 27:41
  big
• 27:41
  time,
• 27:43
  right.
• 27:43
  And
• 27:44
  they
• 27:44
  knew
• 27:44
  how
• 27:44
  to
• 27:44
  set
• 27:44
  him
• 27:45
  up.
• 27:45
  Nolan
• 27:45
  Ryan
• 27:46
  had
• 27:46
  a
• 27:46
  phenomenal
• 27:47
  fastball,
• 27:48
  but
• 27:48
  it
• 27:48
  was
• 27:48
  even
• 27:48
  better
• 27:49
  because
• 27:49
  of
• 27:49
  his
• 27:49
  curveball.
• 27:50
  I
• 27:51
  mean,
• 27:51
  it
• 27:51
  was
• 27:51
  just,
• 27:52
  you
• 27:52
  know.
• 27:53
  But
• 27:53
  let's
• 27:53
  get
• 27:53
  back
• 27:53
  to
• 27:54
  Mazeroski.
• 27:55
  You
• 27:55
  said
• 27:55
  you
• 27:55
  have
• 27:56
  very
• 27:56
  fond
• 27:57
  and
• 27:57
  good
• 27:57
  memories
• 27:58
  of
• 27:59
  the
• 27:59
  71
• 28:00
  series,
• 28:01
  but
• 28:01
  let's
• 28:01
  talk
• 28:01
  about
• 28:02
  the
• 28:02
  1960
• 28:03
  series,
• 28:03
  which
• 28:03
  you
• 28:04
  missed
• 28:04
  because
• 28:05
  you
• 28:05
  just
• 28:05
  can't
• 28:06
  have
• 28:06
  a
• 28:06
  memory
• 28:06
  from
• 28:07
  back
• 28:07
  then
• 28:08
  when
• 28:08
  you.
• 28:09
  I
• 28:09
  was
• 28:09
  in
• 28:09
  a
• 28:10
  baby
• 28:10
  crib
• 28:10
  somewhere,
• 28:12
  so.
• 28:12
  So
• 28:13
  tell
• 28:13
  us
• 28:13
  what
• 28:14
  you
• 28:14
  know,
• 28:15
  give
• 28:15
  us
• 28:15
  an
• 28:15
  overview.
• 28:17
  You're
• 28:17
  like
• 28:18
  me,
• 28:18
  a
• 28:18
  sports
• 28:18
  historian.
• 28:20
  Your
• 28:20
  favorite
• 28:21
  team
• 28:21
  is
• 28:21
  the
• 28:21
  Pirates.
• 28:22
  Tell
• 28:22
  us
• 28:23
  from
• 28:23
  a
• 28:24
  historian's
• 28:24
  perspective
• 28:25
  about
• 28:26
  the
• 28:26
  1960
• 28:27
  series
• 28:28
  and
• 28:28
  just
• 28:29
  how
• 28:30
  improbable
• 28:31
  it
• 28:31
  was
• 28:32
  that
• 28:32
  the
• 28:33
  Pittsburgh
• 28:33
  Pirates
• 28:34
  defeated
• 28:35
  the
• 28:35
  New
• 28:36
  York
• 28:36
  Yankees.
• 28:37
  Yeah,
• 28:38
  of
• 28:38
  course,
• 28:38
  the
• 28:38
  Yankees.
• 28:39
  I
• 28:39
  mean,
• 28:40
  I've
• 28:40
  done
• 28:40
  enough
• 28:41
  research
• 28:41
  and
• 28:42
  heard
• 28:42
  it
• 28:43
  through
• 28:43
  the
• 28:43
  grapevine
• 28:43
  about
• 28:44
  that
• 28:44
  Series.
• 28:44
  And
• 28:46
  you
• 28:46
  know,
• 28:47
  the
• 28:47
  Yankees
• 28:48
  were
• 28:48
  so
• 28:48
  heavily
• 28:48
  favored.
• 28:49
  I
• 28:49
  mean,
• 28:49
  they
• 28:50
  had
• 28:50
  such
• 28:51
  a
• 28:51
  heavy
• 28:51
  duty
• 28:51
  lineup.
• 28:52
  And
• 28:53
  if
• 28:53
  you
• 28:53
  look
• 28:53
  back
• 28:53
  at
• 28:53
  the
• 28:54
  Series,
• 28:55
  all
• 28:55
  the
• 28:55
  games
• 28:55
  the
• 28:55
  Pirates
• 28:56
  won
• 28:57
  were
• 28:57
  close.
• 28:58
  All
• 28:58
  the
• 28:58
  games
• 28:59
  they
• 28:59
  lost,
• 28:59
  they
• 28:59
  got
• 28:59
  clobbered.
• 29:01
  So
• 29:01
  the
• 29:01
  fact
• 29:01
  that
• 29:01
  they
• 29:02
  were
• 29:02
  able
• 29:02
  to
• 29:02
  stretch
• 29:02
  it
• 29:03
  to
• 29:03
  nine
• 29:04
  to
• 29:04
  seventh
• 29:05
  game
• 29:06
  and
• 29:06
  stay
• 29:06
  in,
• 29:06
  it
• 29:07
  was
• 29:07
  amazing.
• 29:08
  And
• 29:09
  then
• 29:09
  to
• 29:09
  have
• 29:09
  the
• 29:09
  score
• 29:10
  tied
• 29:10
  up,
• 29:11
  nine,
• 29:11
  nine
• 29:11
  going
• 29:12
  ninth
• 29:12
  inning,
• 29:12
  it
• 29:12
  was
• 29:13
  just
• 29:13
  like
• 29:13
  a
• 29:13
  offensive
• 29:14
  output.
• 29:14
  That
• 29:14
  seventh
• 29:15
  game
• 29:15
  and
• 29:16
  they
• 29:16
  hung
• 29:16
  around,
• 29:17
  got
• 29:17
  it
• 29:18
  to
• 29:18
  the
• 29:18
  bottom
• 29:18
  of
• 29:18
  the
• 29:18
  ninth
• 29:18
  and
• 29:19
  we
• 29:19
  all
• 29:19
  know
• 29:19
  what
• 29:19
  happened
• 29:20
  there.
• 29:21
  Mazeroski
• 29:21
  over
• 29:21
  Yogi
• 29:22
  Bear
• 29:22
  for
• 29:22
  the
• 29:22
  game
• 29:23
  winning
• 29:23
  home
• 29:23
  run.
• 29:23
  But
• 29:25
  yeah,
• 29:25
  that
• 29:26
  was
• 29:26
  a
• 29:26
  huge
• 29:26
  upset.
• 29:27
  I
• 29:27
  don't
• 29:27
  think
• 29:27
  the
• 29:27
  Yankees
• 29:28
  were
• 29:28
  too
• 29:28
  pleased
• 29:28
  they
• 29:29
  lost
• 29:29
  to
• 29:29
  a
• 29:30
  team
• 29:30
  they
• 29:30
  thought
• 29:30
  they
• 29:30
  should
• 29:31
  have
• 29:31
  annihilated.
• 29:34
  Yeah,
• 29:34
  I
• 29:34
  mean,
• 29:35
  you
• 29:35
  know,
• 29:35
  the
• 29:36
  Yankees
• 29:36
  were
• 29:37
  as,
• 29:38
  as,
• 29:38
  as
• 29:38
  normal,
• 29:39
  you
• 29:40
  know,
• 29:40
  at
• 29:40
  that
• 29:40
  time.
• 29:40
  Just,
• 29:41
  just
• 29:41
  a
• 29:41
  complete
• 29:42
  powerhouse.
• 29:43
  They
• 29:43
  were
• 29:44
  97
• 29:45
  and
• 29:45
  57
• 29:47
  and
• 29:47
  you
• 29:47
  know,
• 29:48
  they,
• 29:48
  they,
• 29:49
  they
• 29:49
  dominated
• 29:50
  the,
• 29:50
  you
• 29:51
  know,
• 29:51
  baseball
• 29:51
  once
• 29:52
  again
• 29:52
  with,
• 29:52
  with
• 29:53
  the
• 29:53
  guys
• 29:53
  that,
• 29:54
  that
• 29:54
  you
• 29:54
  just,
• 29:54
  you
• 29:54
  know,
• 29:55
  Mantle
• 29:56
  and
• 29:56
  Vera
• 29:57
  and
• 29:57
  Tony
• 29:58
  Kubeck
• 29:59
  and
• 29:59
  Whitey
• 30:00
  Ford,
• 30:00
  all
• 30:00
  those
• 30:00
  guys.
• 30:01
  And
• 30:02
  you
• 30:02
  know,
• 30:03
  the
• 30:03
  Pirates,
• 30:04
  they
• 30:04
  won
• 30:04
  game
• 30:05
  one
• 30:05
  at
• 30:05
  home
• 30:06
  six
• 30:06
  to
• 30:06
  four
• 30:07
  and
• 30:07
  the
• 30:07
  Yankees
• 30:08
  came
• 30:08
  back
• 30:08
  and
• 30:09
  beat
• 30:09
  them
• 30:09
  16
• 30:10
  to
• 30:10
  three.
• 30:11
  Then
• 30:11
  the
• 30:11
  Yankees
• 30:12
  won
• 30:12
  game
• 30:12
  three,
• 30:13
  10
• 30:13
  to
• 30:13
  nothing,
• 30:14
  and
• 30:14
  the
• 30:14
  Pirates
• 30:15
  squeaked
• 30:16
  one
• 30:16
  out,
• 30:16
  three
• 30:16
  to
• 30:17
  two.
• 30:18
  Then
• 30:18
  they
• 30:19
  comfortably
• 30:20
  won
• 30:21
  five
• 30:21
  to
• 30:21
  two.
• 30:22
  And
• 30:22
  the
• 30:22
  Yankees
• 30:23
  blasted
• 30:24
  them
• 30:24
  again
• 30:25
  in
• 30:25
  game
• 30:25
  six,
• 30:26
  12
• 30:26
  to
• 30:26
  nothing.
• 30:27
  And,
• 30:28
  and
• 30:28
  the
• 30:28
  Yankees
• 30:29
  are
• 30:29
  winning.
• 30:29
  They've
• 30:30
  got
• 30:30
  nine
• 30:30
  runs
• 30:31
  going
• 30:31
  into
• 30:31
  the
• 30:32
  bottom
• 30:32
  of
• 30:32
  the
• 30:32
  nine.
• 30:33
  They
• 30:33
  are
• 30:33
  three
• 30:34
  outs
• 30:34
  away
• 30:34
  from
• 30:35
  another
• 30:35
  World
• 30:35
  Series
• 30:36
  championship.
• 30:39
  It
• 30:39
  was
• 30:40
  a
• 30:40
  chaotic
• 30:41
  game,
• 30:41
  to
• 30:42
  say
• 30:42
  the
• 30:42
  least.
• 30:42
  What
• 30:43
  made
• 30:43
  game
• 30:44
  seven
• 30:44
  so,
• 30:45
  so
• 30:45
  chaotic
• 30:46
  leading
• 30:46
  up
• 30:46
  to
• 30:46
  that
• 30:47
  final
• 30:47
  at
• 30:47
  bat
• 30:47
  by
• 30:48
  Mazerosky?
• 30:50
  Well,
• 30:50
  I
• 30:50
  mean
• 30:50
  everybody
• 30:51
  figured,
• 30:51
  well,
• 30:51
  Yankees
• 30:52
  have
• 30:52
  been
• 30:52
  clobbering
• 30:52
  us
• 30:53
  all
• 30:53
  along
• 30:53
  with
• 30:53
  the
• 30:53
  games
• 30:53
  they
• 30:54
  won
• 30:54
  and
• 30:55
  they're
• 30:55
  probably
• 30:55
  going
• 30:55
  to
• 30:55
  find
• 30:56
  a
• 30:56
  way
• 30:56
  to
• 30:56
  win
• 30:56
  this
• 30:56
  last
• 30:56
  one.
• 30:58
  So
• 30:59
  I
• 30:59
  mean
• 30:59
  everybody
• 31:00
  was
• 31:00
  in
• 31:00
  disbelief
• 31:01
  that
• 31:01
  we're
• 31:01
  still
• 31:01
  in
• 31:02
  it,
• 31:02
  ninth
• 31:02
  inning.
• 31:04
  And
• 31:04
  of
• 31:04
  course
• 31:04
  when
• 31:04
  he
• 31:05
  hits
• 31:05
  the
• 31:05
  home
• 31:05
  run,
• 31:06
  everybody
• 31:06
  goes
• 31:07
  crazy.
• 31:07
  And
• 31:07
  if
• 31:07
  you
• 31:07
  watch
• 31:08
  the
• 31:08
  film,
• 31:09
  he
• 31:09
  had
• 31:09
  to
• 31:09
  make
• 31:10
  his
• 31:10
  way
• 31:10
  around
• 31:10
  the
• 31:10
  bases
• 31:11
  and
• 31:11
  somehow
• 31:11
  get
• 31:11
  the
• 31:11
  home
• 31:12
  plate
• 31:12
  because
• 31:12
  he
• 31:12
  was
• 31:12
  being
• 31:13
  mobbed.
• 31:15
  But
• 31:15
  yeah,
• 31:16
  it's
• 31:16
  just,
• 31:16
  it's
• 31:17
  a
• 31:17
  shocking
• 31:17
  one
• 31:17
  and
• 31:17
  I
• 31:17
  guess
• 31:18
  in
• 31:18
  some
• 31:18
  ways
• 31:19
  this
• 31:19
  was
• 31:19
  their
• 31:19
  revenge
• 31:19
  for
• 31:20
  1927
• 31:21
  because
• 31:21
  the
• 31:22
  Pirates
• 31:22
  played
• 31:22
  the
• 31:22
  Yankees
• 31:23
  1927
• 31:24
  after
• 31:24
  winning
• 31:25
  the
• 31:25
  World
• 31:25
  Series
• 31:25
  two
• 31:25
  years
• 31:26
  early.
• 31:26
  In
• 31:26
  25,
• 31:27
  they're
• 31:27
  back
• 31:27
  in
• 31:27
  the
• 31:27
  World
• 31:27
  Series.
• 31:28
  But
• 31:28
  now
• 31:28
  they're
• 31:29
  facing,
• 31:29
  as
• 31:29
  we
• 31:29
  all
• 31:30
  know,
• 31:30
  murderers
• 31:30
  row.
• 31:31
  Now
• 31:32
  you're
• 31:32
  talking
• 31:32
  about
• 31:32
  a
• 31:32
  lineup
• 31:33
  that
• 31:33
  was
• 31:33
  just
• 31:34
  incredible.
• 31:34
  And
• 31:34
  of
• 31:34
  course
• 31:35
  the
• 31:35
  Pirates
• 31:35
  got
• 31:35
  swept
• 31:36
  in
• 31:36
  four
• 31:36
  games.
• 31:36
  They
• 31:36
  didn't
• 31:36
  stand
• 31:37
  a
• 31:37
  chance.
• 31:39
  So
• 31:39
  they
• 31:39
  probably
• 31:39
  looked
• 31:40
  at
• 31:40
  this
• 31:40
  series
• 31:40
  as
• 31:40
  well.
• 31:41
  You
• 31:41
  know,
• 31:41
  here
• 31:41
  we
• 31:41
  are,
• 31:43
  23,
• 31:43
  what
• 31:44
  is
• 31:44
  it,
• 31:44
  33
• 31:44
  years
• 31:45
  later
• 31:46
  and
• 31:46
  we're
• 31:46
  going
• 31:46
  to
• 31:46
  get
• 31:46
  our
• 31:46
  regret,
• 31:47
  our
• 31:47
  revenge
• 31:48
  on
• 31:48
  the
• 31:48
  Yankees,
• 31:48
  the
• 31:48
  mighty
• 31:49
  Yankees.
• 31:51
  Well,
• 31:52
  you
• 31:52
  know
• 31:53
  what
• 31:53
  people
• 31:53
  don't
• 31:53
  recall?
• 31:54
  We
• 31:54
  all
• 31:55
  look
• 31:55
  at
• 31:56
  Mazarowski's
• 31:57
  home
• 31:58
  run.
• 31:59
  But
• 32:00
  the
• 32:01
  Pirates
• 32:01
  had
• 32:01
  a
• 32:02
  stage,
• 32:02
  a
• 32:03
  furious
• 32:04
  car
• 32:04
  comeback
• 32:05
  to
• 32:05
  even
• 32:06
  put
• 32:07
  Maz
• 32:08
  into
• 32:08
  That
• 32:09
  situation.
• 32:10
  The
• 32:10
  Yankees
• 32:12
  had
• 32:12
  scored
• 32:13
  two
• 32:13
  in
• 32:13
  the
• 32:13
  top
• 32:14
  of
• 32:14
  the
• 32:14
  seven
• 32:14
  at
• 32:15
  top
• 32:15
  of
• 32:15
  the
• 32:15
  eighth
• 32:16
  to
• 32:16
  go
• 32:16
  up
• 32:17
  seven
• 32:18
  to
• 32:18
  four.
• 32:20
  And
• 32:20
  then
• 32:21
  the
• 32:21
  Pirates
• 32:23
  scored
• 32:23
  five
• 32:23
  runs
• 32:24
  in
• 32:24
  the
• 32:25
  bottom
• 32:25
  of
• 32:25
  the
• 32:25
  eighth
• 32:26
  to
• 32:26
  take
• 32:27
  a
• 32:27
  nine
• 32:27
  to
• 32:28
  seven
• 32:28
  lead.
• 32:29
  And
• 32:29
  then
• 32:29
  the
• 32:29
  Yankees
• 32:30
  come
• 32:30
  back
• 32:31
  in
• 32:31
  the
• 32:31
  ninth
• 32:32
  and
• 32:32
  tie
• 32:33
  the
• 32:33
  game
• 32:34
  nine
• 32:34
  to
• 32:34
  nine.
• 32:35
  And
• 32:36
  then
• 32:36
  Mazarovsky
• 32:37
  comes
• 32:37
  up
• 32:37
  in
• 32:38
  the
• 32:38
  bottom
• 32:38
  of
• 32:38
  the
• 32:38
  nine.
• 32:39
  Can
• 32:39
  you
• 32:39
  take
• 32:40
  us
• 32:40
  through
• 32:40
  his
• 32:40
  back?
• 32:42
  Well,
• 32:42
  poor
• 32:43
  Ralph
• 32:43
  Terry
• 32:44
  happened
• 32:44
  to
• 32:44
  be
• 32:44
  the
• 32:44
  one
• 32:44
  that
• 32:45
  threw
• 32:46
  up
• 32:46
  the
• 32:46
  home
• 32:47
  run
• 32:47
  pitch.
• 32:48
  And
• 32:48
  I
• 32:49
  don't
• 32:49
  think
• 32:49
  he.
• 32:49
  He
• 32:50
  thought
• 32:50
  that
• 32:50
  he
• 32:50
  was
• 32:51
  going
• 32:51
  to
• 32:51
  be
• 32:51
  hitting
• 32:52
  a
• 32:52
  home
• 32:52
  run.
• 32:53
  I
• 32:53
  think
• 32:53
  he
• 32:53
  was
• 32:53
  like,
• 32:54
  let's
• 32:54
  just
• 32:54
  get
• 32:54
  a
• 32:54
  rally
• 32:55
  started
• 32:55
  here
• 32:55
  and
• 32:56
  try
• 32:56
  to
• 32:56
  get
• 32:56
  the
• 32:56
  winning
• 32:56
  run
• 32:57
  on
• 32:57
  base.
• 32:57
  And
• 32:58
  he
• 32:59
  got
• 32:59
  the
• 32:59
  best
• 32:59
  of
• 32:59
  that
• 32:59
  ball,
• 33:00
  and
• 33:00
  it
• 33:01
  went
• 33:01
  over
• 33:01
  the.
• 33:01
  Over
• 33:02
  the
• 33:02
  wall,
• 33:02
  Forbes
• 33:03
  Field.
• 33:03
  And
• 33:03
  I
• 33:04
  think
• 33:04
  he
• 33:04
  probably
• 33:04
  found
• 33:05
  himself
• 33:05
  in
• 33:05
  a
• 33:05
  little
• 33:05
  disbelief
• 33:06
  as
• 33:06
  well
• 33:06
  that
• 33:06
  he
• 33:07
  actually
• 33:07
  hit
• 33:07
  it
• 33:07
  over
• 33:07
  the
• 33:07
  wall.
• 33:08
  You
• 33:08
  watch
• 33:09
  the
• 33:09
  replay,
• 33:09
  you
• 33:09
  can
• 33:09
  see
• 33:10
  Ogie
• 33:10
  Bear
• 33:10
  just
• 33:10
  looking
• 33:10
  up,
• 33:11
  going,
• 33:11
  oh,
• 33:11
  my.
• 33:12
  We
• 33:13
  just
• 33:13
  lost.
• 33:14
  So,
• 33:15
  yeah,
• 33:15
  it
• 33:16
  was
• 33:16
  wild.
• 33:17
  I
• 33:17
  wish
• 33:17
  I
• 33:17
  would
• 33:17
  have
• 33:17
  been
• 33:17
  older
• 33:18
  so
• 33:18
  I
• 33:18
  could
• 33:18
  have
• 33:18
  actually
• 33:18
  witnessed
• 33:19
  that.
• 33:20
  Yeah,
• 33:22
  it's.
• 33:22
  You
• 33:22
  know,
• 33:23
  every
• 33:23
  kid
• 33:24
  that
• 33:24
  plays
• 33:25
  baseball
• 33:26
  dreams
• 33:27
  of
• 33:27
  coming
• 33:28
  up
• 33:28
  in
• 33:28
  the
• 33:28
  bottom
• 33:28
  of
• 33:29
  the
• 33:29
  ninth
• 33:29
  inning
• 33:29
  in
• 33:29
  the
• 33:30
  seventh
• 33:30
  game
• 33:30
  of
• 33:30
  the
• 33:31
  World
• 33:31
  Series
• 33:31
  and
• 33:32
  knocking
• 33:33
  one
• 33:33
  out
• 33:33
  to.
• 33:34
  To.
• 33:34
  To.
• 33:35
  To
• 33:35
  win
• 33:35
  it
• 33:36
  all.
• 33:36
  And
• 33:37
  Mazarowski
• 33:38
  did
• 33:38
  it.
• 33:38
  The
• 33:38
  closest
• 33:39
  thing
• 33:39
  I
• 33:39
  can
• 33:40
  remember
• 33:40
  in
• 33:40
  modern
• 33:41
  times,
• 33:42
  and
• 33:42
  it's
• 33:42
  just
• 33:42
  not
• 33:42
  the
• 33:43
  same,
• 33:43
  was
• 33:43
  Joe
• 33:43
  Carter,
• 33:45
  right.
• 33:45
  With
• 33:45
  the
• 33:45
  Blue
• 33:46
  Jays.
• 33:47
  Because
• 33:47
  I
• 33:47
  actually
• 33:48
  found.
• 33:50
  Yeah,
• 33:50
  I
• 33:50
  actually
• 33:50
  found
• 33:51
  a
• 33:51
  quote
• 33:51
  from
• 33:51
  Mazarowski
• 33:52
  about
• 33:52
  that.
• 33:53
  That
• 33:53
  home
• 33:53
  run.
• 33:53
  And
• 33:53
  what
• 33:54
  he
• 33:54
  said
• 33:54
  was,
• 33:55
  I
• 33:55
  was
• 33:55
  almost
• 33:55
  at
• 33:56
  second
• 33:56
  base
• 33:56
  when
• 33:56
  the
• 33:57
  ball
• 33:57
  finally
• 33:57
  went
• 33:57
  over.
• 33:58
  And
• 33:58
  he
• 33:58
  said
• 33:59
  he
• 33:59
  was
• 33:59
  running
• 33:59
  so
• 33:59
  hard
• 33:59
  just
• 34:00
  trying
• 34:00
  to
• 34:00
  make
• 34:00
  sure
• 34:00
  to
• 34:00
  get
• 34:00
  to
• 34:01
  third
• 34:01
  base.
• 34:01
  And
• 34:01
  then
• 34:02
  he
• 34:02
  took
• 34:02
  a
• 34:02
  moment
• 34:02
  to
• 34:02
  realize
• 34:03
  what
• 34:03
  had
• 34:03
  actually
• 34:04
  happened,
• 34:04
  and
• 34:04
  it
• 34:04
  was
• 34:04
  gone.
• 34:05
  And
• 34:05
  he
• 34:05
  said
• 34:06
  he
• 34:06
  finished
• 34:06
  the
• 34:06
  sprint
• 34:07
  around
• 34:07
  the
• 34:07
  bases.
• 34:08
  Like,
• 34:08
  he
• 34:08
  said
• 34:08
  he
• 34:08
  was
• 34:09
  a
• 34:09
  schoolboy.
• 34:10
  And
• 34:10
  of
• 34:10
  course,
• 34:10
  we
• 34:11
  know
• 34:11
  what
• 34:11
  happened
• 34:11
  when
• 34:11
  he
• 34:11
  got
• 34:11
  to
• 34:12
  home,
• 34:12
  but
• 34:12
  he
• 34:12
  was
• 34:12
  mobbed.
• 34:13
  And
• 34:14
  he
• 34:14
  says,
• 34:14
  you
• 34:15
  know,
• 34:15
  all
• 34:15
  I
• 34:15
  could
• 34:15
  think
• 34:15
  about
• 34:16
  was,
• 34:16
  we
• 34:16
  beat
• 34:16
  the
• 34:16
  Yankees.
• 34:17
  We
• 34:18
  beat
• 34:18
  them.
• 34:18
  We
• 34:18
  beat
• 34:19
  the
• 34:19
  damn
• 34:19
  Yankees.
• 34:21
  So,
• 34:22
  yeah,
• 34:22
  it
• 34:23
  must
• 34:23
  have
• 34:23
  been
• 34:23
  some
• 34:23
  kind
• 34:23
  of
• 34:24
  feeling.
• 34:25
  Yeah,
• 34:28
  yeah,
• 34:28
  go
• 34:28
  ahead.
• 34:28
  Yeah,
• 34:29
  I
• 34:29
  was
• 34:29
  just
• 34:30
  gonna
• 34:30
  say,
• 34:30
  here's
• 34:30
  another
• 34:30
  bit
• 34:30
  of
• 34:31
  trivia
• 34:31
  that
• 34:31
  I
• 34:31
  found,
• 34:32
  because
• 34:32
  I
• 34:32
  didn't.
• 34:33
  Maybe
• 34:33
  some
• 34:33
  people
• 34:33
  are
• 34:34
  wondering
• 34:34
  whatever
• 34:34
  happened
• 34:34
  to
• 34:34
  the
• 34:35
  ball
• 34:35
  itself.
• 34:36
  Well,
• 34:36
  I
• 34:36
  found
• 34:37
  it
• 34:37
  on
• 34:38
  Wikipedia.
• 34:38
  A
• 34:39
  gentleman
• 34:39
  by
• 34:39
  name
• 34:39
  of
• 34:39
  Andy
• 34:40
  Jerpee.
• 34:41
  He
• 34:41
  was
• 34:41
  only
• 34:41
  14
• 34:42
  years
• 34:42
  old
• 34:42
  at
• 34:42
  the
• 34:42
  time.
• 34:44
  He
• 34:44
  was
• 34:44
  standing
• 34:45
  outside
• 34:45
  the
• 34:45
  stadium
• 34:46
  in
• 34:46
  Shenley
• 34:46
  park,
• 34:47
  and
• 34:48
  he
• 34:48
  was
• 34:48
  underneath
• 34:48
  some
• 34:48
  trees
• 34:49
  that
• 34:50
  were
• 34:50
  adjacent
• 34:50
  to
• 34:50
  the
• 34:51
  ballpark.
• 34:52
  So
• 34:53
  he
• 34:53
  just
• 34:53
  happened
• 34:53
  to
• 34:53
  be
• 34:54
  standing
• 34:54
  there
• 34:54
  and
• 34:54
  the
• 34:54
  ball
• 34:54
  comes
• 34:55
  down
• 34:56
  and
• 34:56
  the
• 34:57
  Mazerosky.
• 34:57
  He
• 34:58
  actually
• 34:58
  took
• 34:58
  the
• 34:58
  ball
• 34:58
  to
• 34:59
  Bill
• 34:59
  Mazeroski
• 34:59
  because
• 35:00
  he
• 35:00
  had
• 35:00
  heard.
• 35:00
  Well,
• 35:01
  actually
• 35:01
  the
• 35:01
  guy
• 35:01
  said
• 35:01
  to
• 35:01
  himself,
• 35:02
  he
• 35:02
  goes,
• 35:02
  oh,
• 35:02
  somebody
• 35:02
  just
• 35:03
  hit
• 35:03
  a
• 35:03
  home
• 35:03
  run.
• 35:04
  I
• 35:04
  mean,
• 35:04
  he
• 35:04
  must
• 35:04
  have
• 35:05
  known
• 35:05
  the
• 35:05
  World
• 35:05
  Series
• 35:05
  was
• 35:06
  going
• 35:06
  on,
• 35:06
  but.
• 35:07
  So
• 35:08
  he
• 35:08
  found
• 35:09
  a
• 35:09
  way
• 35:09
  to
• 35:09
  get
• 35:09
  to
• 35:09
  Mazeroski
• 35:10
  and
• 35:11
  Maz
• 35:11
  signed
• 35:11
  the
• 35:12
  ball
• 35:12
  for
• 35:12
  him.
• 35:13
  But
• 35:14
  he
• 35:14
  told
• 35:14
  me,
• 35:14
  keep
• 35:14
  it.
• 35:15
  He
• 35:15
  said,
• 35:15
  your
• 35:15
  memory
• 35:16
  is
• 35:16
  good
• 35:16
  enough
• 35:16
  for
• 35:16
  me.
• 35:16
  He
• 35:16
  said,
• 35:17
  mazerosky.
• 35:19
  But
• 35:19
  unfortunately,
• 35:20
  the
• 35:20
  keepsake
• 35:21
  we
• 35:21
  apparently
• 35:22
  was
• 35:22
  lost
• 35:22
  during
• 35:22
  a
• 35:22
  neighborhood
• 35:23
  game.
• 35:23
  The
• 35:23
  guy
• 35:23
  used
• 35:24
  it
• 35:24
  in
• 35:24
  a
• 35:24
  neighborhood
• 35:24
  ball
• 35:25
  game.
• 35:25
  Why?
• 35:26
  I
• 35:26
  don't
• 35:26
  know.
• 35:27
  But
• 35:27
  he
• 35:28
  misplaced
• 35:28
  the
• 35:28
  ball
• 35:29
  playing
• 35:29
  around
• 35:29
  with
• 35:29
  him.
• 35:30
  It's
• 35:30
  almost
• 35:30
  like
• 35:30
  this
• 35:30
  movie
• 35:31
  sandlot.
• 35:34
  Yeah,
• 35:35
  The
• 35:35
  Babe
• 35:35
  Ruth
• 35:35
  ball
• 35:35
  that
• 35:36
  they
• 35:36
  hit
• 35:36
  over
• 35:36
  the
• 35:36
  fence
• 35:36
  and
• 35:37
  James
• 35:37
  Earl
• 35:37
  Jones.
• 35:38
  Oh,
• 35:38
  you
• 35:38
  mean
• 35:39
  George.
• 35:41
  Oh
• 35:41
  my
• 35:41
  gosh.
• 35:41
  This
• 35:42
  guy
• 35:42
  probably
• 35:42
  didn't.
• 35:42
  This
• 35:42
  kid
• 35:43
  probably
• 35:43
  didn't
• 35:43
  realize
• 35:44
  that
• 35:45
  in
• 35:45
  today's
• 35:45
  day
• 35:45
  age,
• 35:46
  if
• 35:46
  he
• 35:46
  had
• 35:46
  that
• 35:46
  ball,
• 35:47
  you
• 35:47
  go
• 35:47
  watch
• 35:47
  Antiques
• 35:48
  Roadshow,
• 35:48
  you
• 35:48
  put
• 35:48
  it
• 35:48
  on
• 35:48
  there,
• 35:48
  it'd
• 35:49
  probably
• 35:49
  be
• 35:49
  worth
• 35:50
  a
• 35:51
  hundred
• 35:51
  thousand,
• 35:51
  two
• 35:51
  hundred
• 35:52
  thousand
• 35:52
  dollars
• 35:53
  easy.
• 35:53
  A
• 35:54
  couple
• 35:54
  bucks,
• 35:55
  sure.
• 35:55
  A
• 35:55
  couple
• 35:55
  bucks
• 35:56
  for
• 35:56
  sure.
• 35:56
  Yeah.
• 35:59
  Again,
• 36:00
  baseball
• 36:00
  was
• 36:00
  so
• 36:01
  different
• 36:01
  back
• 36:01
  then.
• 36:02
  I
• 36:02
  think
• 36:02
  camaraderie
• 36:03
  amongst
• 36:03
  teammates
• 36:04
  was,
• 36:05
  mm,
• 36:06
  a
• 36:06
  lot
• 36:06
  closer
• 36:07
  than,
• 36:07
  than
• 36:08
  it
• 36:08
  is
• 36:08
  today.
• 36:08
  What
• 36:09
  kind
• 36:09
  of
• 36:09
  teammate
• 36:10
  was
• 36:11
  Bill
• 36:11
  Mazeroski
• 36:12
  in
• 36:12
  the
• 36:12
  Pirates
• 36:13
  clubhouse?
• 36:14
  Oh,
• 36:14
  my
• 36:14
  gosh.
• 36:15
  The
• 36:15
  Pirates
• 36:16
  historically
• 36:17
  had
• 36:17
  close
• 36:18
  teams,
• 36:18
  especially
• 36:19
  in
• 36:19
  the
• 36:19
  70s.
• 36:20
  They
• 36:21
  loved
• 36:21
  him
• 36:22
  and
• 36:22
  you
• 36:22
  know,
• 36:22
  of
• 36:23
  course
• 36:23
  with
• 36:23
  Roberto
• 36:23
  Clemente
• 36:24
  in
• 36:24
  the
• 36:24
  clubhouse,
• 36:24
  everybody
• 36:25
  loved
• 36:25
  him.
• 36:25
  And
• 36:25
  he's
• 36:26
  my
• 36:26
  God
• 36:27
  in
• 36:27
  Pittsburgh.
• 36:27
  You
• 36:28
  know,
• 36:28
  he's
• 36:28
  a
• 36:28
  hero
• 36:29
  and
• 36:29
  people
• 36:29
  love
• 36:29
  him
• 36:29
  to
• 36:29
  this
• 36:30
  day.
• 36:30
  Willie
• 36:30
  Stardrell
• 36:31
  was
• 36:31
  just
• 36:32
  kindest
• 36:32
  gentleman
• 36:32
  you
• 36:33
  ever
• 36:33
  want
• 36:33
  to
• 36:33
  meet.
• 36:35
  It
• 36:35
  was
• 36:35
  just
• 36:35
  like
• 36:35
  that
• 36:36
  with
• 36:36
  the
• 36:36
  Pirates.
• 36:37
  And
• 36:38
  I
• 36:38
  always
• 36:38
  like
• 36:38
  to
• 36:38
  say,
• 36:39
  when
• 36:40
  I,
• 36:40
  being
• 36:40
  a
• 36:40
  historian
• 36:41
  and
• 36:41
  growing
• 36:41
  up
• 36:42
  in
• 36:42
  the
• 36:42
  70s
• 36:42
  in
• 36:42
  Pittsburgh,
• 36:43
  I
• 36:43
  always
• 36:43
  say
• 36:43
  the
• 36:44
  70s
• 36:44
  was
• 36:44
  the
• 36:44
  best
• 36:44
  period
• 36:45
  I
• 36:45
  ever
• 36:45
  grew
• 36:45
  up
• 36:45
  in.
• 36:46
  I
• 36:46
  mean,
• 36:46
  especially
• 36:46
  in
• 36:46
  Pittsburgh.
• 36:47
  All
• 36:48
  the
• 36:48
  sports
• 36:48
  teams
• 36:48
  were
• 36:49
  great.
• 36:50
  And
• 36:50
  I
• 36:50
  remember
• 36:50
  going
• 36:51
  to
• 36:51
  Three
• 36:51
  River
• 36:51
  Stadium
• 36:51
  and
• 36:52
  they
• 36:52
  used
• 36:52
  to
• 36:52
  allow
• 36:52
  you
• 36:52
  to
• 36:53
  walk
• 36:53
  down
• 36:53
  the
• 36:53
  first
• 36:53
  baseline
• 36:54
  before
• 36:55
  the
• 36:55
  games.
• 36:55
  When
• 36:55
  they
• 36:55
  were
• 36:55
  warming
• 36:56
  up,
• 36:56
  these
• 36:56
  players
• 36:56
  would
• 36:56
  come
• 36:57
  over,
• 36:57
  greet
• 36:57
  you
• 36:57
  and
• 36:58
  give
• 36:58
  you
• 36:58
  a
• 36:58
  ball.
• 36:58
  And
• 36:59
  you
• 36:59
  don't
• 36:59
  see
• 36:59
  that
• 36:59
  anymore.
• 37:00
  And
• 37:00
  it's
• 37:00
  unfortunate
• 37:02
  kids
• 37:02
  these
• 37:02
  days
• 37:03
  don't
• 37:03
  get
• 37:03
  to
• 37:03
  experience
• 37:04
  some
• 37:04
  of
• 37:04
  the
• 37:04
  things
• 37:04
  we
• 37:05
  did
• 37:05
  when
• 37:05
  we
• 37:05
  go
• 37:05
  to
• 37:05
  ball
• 37:05
  games.
• 37:09
  Yeah,
• 37:09
  that's
• 37:09
  for
• 37:10
  sure.
• 37:10
  It's,
• 37:10
  it's,
• 37:11
  it's,
• 37:11
  it's
• 37:11
  a
• 37:11
  different
• 37:12
  game.
• 37:15
  Maz
• 37:16
  sometimes
• 37:18
  is
• 37:18
  described
• 37:20
  or
• 37:20
  was
• 37:21
  described
• 37:22
  as
• 37:22
  very
• 37:22
  quiet
• 37:23
  and
• 37:24
  humble.
• 37:26
  How
• 37:27
  did
• 37:27
  that
• 37:29
  affect
• 37:31
  his
• 37:31
  perception
• 37:32
  nationally?
• 37:34
  How
• 37:34
  was
• 37:35
  he
• 37:35
  perceived
• 37:36
  on
• 37:37
  a
• 37:37
  national
• 37:37
  stage?
• 37:39
  Well,
• 37:40
  I
• 37:40
  think
• 37:40
  he
• 37:40
  was
• 37:40
  very
• 37:40
  well
• 37:41
  respected.
• 37:41
  I
• 37:41
  mean,
• 37:42
  anybody
• 37:42
  that
• 37:42
  loves
• 37:42
  the
• 37:43
  game
• 37:43
  could
• 37:43
  see
• 37:43
  how
• 37:43
  he
• 37:44
  played
• 37:44
  the
• 37:44
  game
• 37:44
  and
• 37:45
  I
• 37:45
  think
• 37:45
  he
• 37:45
  was
• 37:46
  respected
• 37:46
  in
• 37:46
  that
• 37:46
  sense.
• 37:47
  And
• 37:47
  he
• 37:47
  was
• 37:47
  a
• 37:48
  low
• 37:48
  key
• 37:48
  kind
• 37:48
  of
• 37:48
  guy.
• 37:50
  And
• 37:51
  you
• 37:51
  know,
• 37:51
  a
• 37:51
  lot
• 37:52
  of
• 37:52
  the
• 37:52
  players
• 37:52
  on
• 37:52
  the
• 37:52
  Pirates
• 37:53
  were
• 37:53
  very
• 37:53
  low
• 37:53
  key.
• 37:54
  Roberto
• 37:54
  Clemente,
• 37:55
  especially
• 37:55
  now
• 37:56
  we
• 37:56
  talk
• 37:56
  about
• 37:56
  him
• 37:57
  and
• 37:57
  he
• 37:58
  did
• 37:58
  not
• 37:58
  like
• 37:58
  the
• 37:59
  spotlight.
• 37:59
  He
• 37:59
  did
• 37:59
  not
• 38:00
  want
• 38:00
  to
• 38:00
  be
• 38:00
  out
• 38:00
  in
• 38:01
  the
• 38:01
  spotlight.
• 38:01
  He
• 38:01
  didn't
• 38:02
  want
• 38:02
  people,
• 38:04
  you
• 38:04
  know,
• 38:04
  surrounding
• 38:05
  him
• 38:05
  and
• 38:05
  interviewing
• 38:06
  but
• 38:07
  all
• 38:07
  the
• 38:07
  time
• 38:08
  he
• 38:08
  was
• 38:08
  like
• 38:08
  one
• 38:08
  of
• 38:08
  the
• 38:09
  greatest
• 38:09
  humanitarians
• 38:10
  you'll
• 38:10
  ever
• 38:10
  find
• 38:11
  in
• 38:11
  baseball.
• 38:12
  So
• 38:13
  I
• 38:13
  think
• 38:13
  that
• 38:13
  just
• 38:13
  carried
• 38:14
  around
• 38:14
  the
• 38:14
  clubhouse
• 38:15
  between
• 38:16
  Those
• 38:16
  teams
• 38:17
  between
• 38:17
  1960
• 38:18
  and
• 38:18
  1971,
• 38:19
  72
• 38:20
  that's
• 38:20
  the
• 38:20
  way
• 38:20
  they
• 38:21
  were
• 38:21
  Manny
• 38:21
  saying
• 38:22
  Guillen,
• 38:22
  oh
• 38:23
  my
• 38:23
  gosh,
• 38:24
  he
• 38:24
  was
• 38:24
  such
• 38:24
  a
• 38:24
  great
• 38:25
  guy.
• 38:25
  He's
• 38:25
  so
• 38:25
  funny,
• 38:26
  always
• 38:26
  smiling.
• 38:27
  He's
• 38:27
  like
• 38:27
  the
• 38:27
  Heinz
• 38:28
  Ward
• 38:28
  of
• 38:28
  baseball,
• 38:30
  always
• 38:30
  smiling.
• 38:31
  And
• 38:31
  he
• 38:31
  was
• 38:31
  a
• 38:32
  part
• 38:32
  of
• 38:32
  that,
• 38:32
  too.
• 38:33
  And
• 38:33
  you
• 38:34
  know,
• 38:34
  they
• 38:34
  don't
• 38:35
  a
• 38:35
  lot
• 38:35
  of
• 38:36
  Pittsburgh,
• 38:36
  I
• 38:36
  mean,
• 38:36
  their
• 38:37
  reputation,
• 38:37
  Pittsburgh
• 38:38
  athletes,
• 38:38
  they
• 38:38
  don't
• 38:38
  want
• 38:39
  to
• 38:39
  be
• 38:39
  in
• 38:39
  the
• 38:39
  spotlight
• 38:41
  and
• 38:41
  they
• 38:41
  kind
• 38:41
  of
• 38:41
  stray
• 38:42
  away
• 38:42
  from
• 38:42
  it
• 38:42
  even
• 38:42
  to
• 38:43
  this
• 38:43
  day.
• 38:44
  So
• 38:44
  I
• 38:44
  think
• 38:44
  they
• 38:45
  just
• 38:45
  they've
• 38:45
  always
• 38:45
  been
• 38:46
  a
• 38:46
  low
• 38:46
  key
• 38:47
  franchises.
• 38:51
  Do
• 38:51
  you
• 38:51
  think
• 38:53
  if
• 38:54
  Mazarovsky
• 38:56
  was
• 38:56
  on
• 38:57
  the
• 38:57
  Yankees,
• 38:59
  if
• 38:59
  he
• 38:59
  was
• 38:59
  on
• 39:00
  the
• 39:00
  Dodgers
• 39:00
  or
• 39:01
  the
• 39:01
  Cardinals
• 39:02
  or
• 39:02
  the
• 39:02
  Cubs,
• 39:03
  the
• 39:04
  Red
• 39:04
  Sox,
• 39:07
  do
• 39:07
  you
• 39:07
  think
• 39:10
  his
• 39:10
  reputation
• 39:13
  would
• 39:14
  be
• 39:14
  his
• 39:15
  notoriety
• 39:17
  would
• 39:17
  be
• 39:18
  larger,
• 39:19
  especially
• 39:20
  based
• 39:20
  off
• 39:21
  of
• 39:21
  hitting
• 39:21
  that
• 39:21
  home
• 39:21
  run
• 39:22
  in
• 39:22
  1960.
• 39:23
  You
• 39:24
  think
• 39:27
  his
• 39:28
  reputation
• 39:30
  would
• 39:30
  be
• 39:31
  larger
• 39:31
  than
• 39:31
  it
• 39:32
  is
• 39:32
  today
• 39:33
  now.
• 39:38
  It'll
• 39:38
  be
• 39:38
  larger
• 39:39
  than
• 39:39
  this
• 39:39
  today,
• 39:40
  perhaps.
• 39:41
  I
• 39:41
  mean,
• 39:41
  if
• 39:41
  you
• 39:41
  go
• 39:42
  to
• 39:42
  play
• 39:42
  for
• 39:43
  a
• 39:44
  larger
• 39:45
  metropolitan
• 39:45
  team
• 39:46
  like
• 39:46
  the
• 39:46
  Yankees,
• 39:47
  you're
• 39:48
  going
• 39:48
  to
• 39:48
  be
• 39:48
  in
• 39:48
  the
• 39:48
  spotlight
• 39:48
  whatever
• 39:49
  you
• 39:49
  like
• 39:49
  it
• 39:49
  or
• 39:49
  not.
• 39:49
  He
• 39:50
  wouldn't
• 39:50
  have
• 39:50
  been
• 39:50
  able
• 39:50
  to
• 39:50
  be
• 39:51
  low
• 39:51
  key,
• 39:52
  small
• 39:53
  market
• 39:53
  teams
• 39:54
  like
• 39:54
  Pittsburgh
• 39:55
  and
• 39:55
  Kansas
• 39:55
  City.
• 39:57
  You
• 39:57
  know,
• 39:58
  you
• 39:58
  don't
• 39:58
  get
• 39:58
  the
• 39:59
  notoriety
• 39:59
  that
• 39:59
  you
• 40:00
  do
• 40:00
  in
• 40:00
  some
• 40:00
  of
• 40:00
  the
• 40:00
  bigger
• 40:01
  cities.
• 40:02
  So
• 40:03
  I
• 40:04
  don't
• 40:04
  know
• 40:04
  how
• 40:04
  he
• 40:04
  would
• 40:04
  have
• 40:04
  handled
• 40:05
  that
• 40:05
  because
• 40:06
  he
• 40:06
  would
• 40:06
  have
• 40:06
  been
• 40:06
  thrust
• 40:06
  into
• 40:07
  the
• 40:07
  spotlight
• 40:07
  whether
• 40:07
  you
• 40:07
  liked
• 40:08
  it
• 40:08
  or
• 40:08
  not.
• 40:10
  I
• 40:10
  was
• 40:10
  going
• 40:11
  to
• 40:11
  ask
• 40:11
  you,
• 40:11
  do
• 40:11
  you
• 40:12
  think
• 40:13
  playing
• 40:14
  in
• 40:14
  Pittsburgh
• 40:15
  benefited
• 40:17
  a
• 40:17
  player
• 40:18
  like
• 40:18
  Mazarovsky
• 40:20
  as
• 40:20
  opposed
• 40:20
  to
• 40:21
  playing
• 40:21
  on
• 40:21
  a
• 40:21
  grander
• 40:22
  stage?
• 40:23
  And
• 40:23
  that's
• 40:24
  not
• 40:24
  a
• 40:24
  slight
• 40:24
  against
• 40:24
  Pittsburgh.
• 40:26
  It's
• 40:26
  it's
• 40:27
  just
• 40:28
  you
• 40:28
  said
• 40:28
  New
• 40:28
  York,
• 40:29
  Los
• 40:30
  Angeles,
• 40:30
  Chicago.
• 40:34
  The
• 40:34
  spotlight
• 40:35
  is
• 40:35
  much
• 40:35
  more
• 40:35
  magnified.
• 40:38
  Yeah.
• 40:38
  And
• 40:39
  I
• 40:39
  mean,
• 40:39
  as
• 40:39
  we
• 40:39
  mentioned
• 40:40
  before,
• 40:40
  he
• 40:41
  had
• 40:42
  been
• 40:42
  offered
• 40:42
  tryouts
• 40:43
  with
• 40:43
  other
• 40:44
  major
• 40:44
  league
• 40:44
  teams,
• 40:44
  but
• 40:44
  he
• 40:45
  chose
• 40:45
  the
• 40:45
  Pirates
• 40:45
  because
• 40:46
  they
• 40:46
  wanted
• 40:46
  to
• 40:46
  advance
• 40:47
  him
• 40:47
  through
• 40:47
  the
• 40:47
  minor
• 40:47
  leagues
• 40:47
  as
• 40:48
  quickly
• 40:48
  as
• 40:48
  possible.
• 40:49
  It
• 40:49
  gave
• 40:49
  him
• 40:49
  the
• 40:49
  best
• 40:49
  opportunity
• 40:50
  and
• 40:51
  maybe
• 40:51
  it
• 40:51
  was
• 40:51
  just
• 40:51
  a
• 40:51
  stroke
• 40:52
  of
• 40:52
  luck
• 40:52
  that
• 40:53
  that's
• 40:53
  what
• 40:53
  worked
• 40:54
  in
• 40:54
  his
• 40:54
  favor,
• 40:54
  as
• 40:55
  by
• 40:56
  being
• 40:56
  in
• 40:56
  Pittsburgh,
• 40:57
  where
• 40:57
  he
• 40:57
  was
• 40:57
  very
• 40:57
  comfortable.
• 41:02
  His
• 41:03
  induction
• 41:05
  into
• 41:05
  the
• 41:05
  hall
• 41:06
  of
• 41:06
  Fame
• 41:07
  has
• 41:08
  been
• 41:08
  debated
• 41:09
  by
• 41:09
  many
• 41:10
  over
• 41:10
  the
• 41:10
  years.
• 41:15
  If
• 41:15
  you
• 41:16
  take
• 41:16
  away
• 41:18
  that
• 41:18
  home
• 41:19
  run,
• 41:20
  which
• 41:20
  brought
• 41:21
  him
• 41:22
  incredible
• 41:22
  notoriety,
• 41:24
  it
• 41:24
  certainly
• 41:26
  upped
• 41:28
  his
• 41:29
  reputation
• 41:30
  in
• 41:30
  the
• 41:30
  game
• 41:31
  because
• 41:31
  of
• 41:31
  what
• 41:31
  he
• 41:31
  did,
• 41:32
  despite
• 41:33
  how
• 41:34
  great
• 41:34
  a
• 41:34
  defensive
• 41:35
  ball
• 41:35
  player
• 41:36
  he
• 41:36
  was.
• 41:38
  Do
• 41:38
  you
• 41:38
  think
• 41:42
  if
• 41:42
  he
• 41:42
  doesn't
• 41:43
  hit
• 41:43
  that
• 41:43
  home
• 41:43
  run,
• 41:44
  he
• 41:44
  doesn't
• 41:45
  get
• 41:45
  into
• 41:45
  the
• 41:45
  hall
• 41:46
  of
• 41:46
  Fame?
• 41:47
  No,
• 41:48
  I
• 41:48
  think
• 41:48
  he
• 41:49
  definitely
• 41:49
  gets
• 41:49
  into
• 41:49
  the
• 41:50
  hall
• 41:50
  of
• 41:50
  Fame
• 41:50
  based
• 41:51
  on
• 41:51
  defensive
• 41:51
  skills.
• 41:52
  Now,
• 41:53
  it's
• 41:53
  interesting
• 41:54
  you
• 41:54
  asked
• 41:54
  that,
• 41:55
  because
• 41:55
  I
• 41:55
  just
• 41:55
  wrote
• 41:55
  an
• 41:55
  article,
• 41:56
  I
• 41:56
  write
• 41:56
  for
• 41:56
  a
• 41:56
  website
• 41:56
  called
• 41:57
  Abstract
• 41:57
  Sports.
• 41:57
  I
• 41:58
  just
• 41:58
  wrote
• 41:58
  an
• 41:58
  article
• 41:58
  recently
• 42:00
  because
• 42:00
  I
• 42:00
  was
• 42:01
  looking
• 42:01
  at
• 42:01
  some
• 42:01
  of
• 42:01
  the
• 42:01
  hall
• 42:02
  of
• 42:02
  Famers
• 42:02
  that
• 42:02
  just
• 42:02
  got
• 42:03
  voted
• 42:03
  in.
• 42:03
  And
• 42:03
  for
• 42:03
  the
• 42:04
  past,
• 42:04
  I
• 42:05
  don't
• 42:05
  know
• 42:05
  how
• 42:05
  many
• 42:05
  years,
• 42:06
  I
• 42:06
  haven't
• 42:07
  completely
• 42:07
  agree
• 42:08
  with
• 42:08
  some
• 42:08
  of
• 42:08
  these
• 42:08
  guys
• 42:08
  getting
• 42:09
  into
• 42:09
  the
• 42:09
  hall
• 42:09
  of
• 42:09
  Fame
• 42:10
  based
• 42:10
  on
• 42:10
  why
• 42:11
  they're
• 42:11
  getting
• 42:11
  in,
• 42:11
  based
• 42:11
  on
• 42:12
  their
• 42:12
  numbers.
• 42:13
  Yeah,
• 42:14
  it
• 42:14
  was
• 42:14
  like
• 42:15
  a
• 42:15
  couple
• 42:15
  years
• 42:16
  back.
• 42:16
  I
• 42:16
  don't
• 42:16
  think
• 42:17
  anybody
• 42:17
  got
• 42:17
  into
• 42:17
  the
• 42:18
  hall
• 42:18
  of
• 42:18
  Fame.
• 42:18
  And,
• 42:19
  and,
• 42:21
  you
• 42:21
  know,
• 42:21
  there's
• 42:22
  this
• 42:22
  thing,
• 42:22
  well,
• 42:23
  we've
• 42:23
  got
• 42:23
  to
• 42:23
  get
• 42:23
  some
• 42:24
  people
• 42:24
  in,
• 42:24
  and
• 42:24
  they
• 42:24
  have
• 42:25
  this,
• 42:26
  this
• 42:26
  veterans.
• 42:28
  Not
• 42:29
  even
• 42:29
  the
• 42:29
  veterans.
• 42:30
  It's,
• 42:30
  it's
• 42:30
  guys
• 42:31
  that
• 42:31
  were
• 42:31
  passed
• 42:31
  up
• 42:32
  and
• 42:32
  they
• 42:32
  get
• 42:32
  one
• 42:32
  last
• 42:33
  shot.
• 42:33
  And,
• 42:34
  you
• 42:34
  know,
• 42:34
  I've
• 42:35
  always
• 42:35
  argued,
• 42:36
  and
• 42:36
  I
• 42:36
  was
• 42:36
  very
• 42:37
  happy
• 42:37
  to
• 42:37
  see
• 42:37
  it,
• 42:37
  that
• 42:38
  Gil
• 42:38
  Hodges
• 42:39
  was
• 42:39
  placed
• 42:40
  in
• 42:40
  the
• 42:40
  hall
• 42:40
  of
• 42:40
  Fame.
• 42:41
  And
• 42:41
  I,
• 42:41
  I
• 42:41
  thought
• 42:42
  that
• 42:42
  he
• 42:42
  was
• 42:43
  very
• 42:43
  deserving
• 42:44
  of
• 42:44
  it.
• 42:44
  I
• 42:45
  don't
• 42:45
  think
• 42:45
  Harold
• 42:45
  Banes
• 42:46
  is
• 42:46
  a
• 42:47
  Hall
• 42:47
  of
• 42:47
  Fame
• 42:47
  baseball
• 42:48
  player.
• 42:48
  No,
• 42:48
  he
• 42:48
  was
• 42:49
  a
• 42:49
  great,
• 42:49
  absolutely
• 42:49
  not.
• 42:50
  A
• 42:51
  Hall
• 42:51
  of
• 42:51
  Famer.
• 42:52
  So
• 42:52
  I,
• 42:53
  I,
• 42:53
  I,
• 42:53
  I,
• 42:54
  I'd
• 42:54
  like
• 42:54
  to
• 42:54
  hear
• 42:54
  your
• 42:55
  opinion
• 42:55
  on,
• 42:55
  on,
• 42:56
  on.
• 42:56
  Oh,
• 42:56
  absolutely.
• 42:57
  And
• 42:57
  then
• 42:58
  what
• 42:58
  I
• 42:58
  did
• 42:58
  within
• 42:58
  this
• 42:58
  article
• 42:59
  was
• 43:00
  just
• 43:00
  out
• 43:00
  of
• 43:00
  curiosity.
• 43:01
  I
• 43:02
  took
• 43:02
  the
• 43:02
  last
• 43:02
  five
• 43:03
  years
• 43:03
  of
• 43:03
  hall
• 43:04
  of
• 43:04
  Fame
• 43:05
  and
• 43:06
  people
• 43:06
  that
• 43:06
  got
• 43:06
  voted
• 43:07
  into
• 43:07
  the
• 43:07
  hall
• 43:07
  of
• 43:07
  Fame
• 43:07
  for
• 43:07
  the
• 43:08
  past
• 43:08
  five
• 43:08
  years.
• 43:09
  Then
• 43:09
  I
• 43:10
  took
• 43:10
  the
• 43:10
  first
• 43:10
  five
• 43:11
  years
• 43:11
  of
• 43:12
  inductions
• 43:13
  and
• 43:13
  compared
• 43:13
  the
• 43:13
  two,
• 43:15
  and
• 43:15
  just
• 43:15
  based
• 43:15
  on
• 43:16
  names
• 43:16
  alone,
• 43:17
  it's
• 43:17
  almost
• 43:18
  laughable
• 43:19
  because,
• 43:19
  I
• 43:19
  mean,
• 43:19
  you
• 43:19
  got
• 43:19
  guys
• 43:20
  like
• 43:20
  Babe
• 43:20
  Ruth
• 43:20
  and
• 43:20
  Lou
• 43:21
  Gehr
• 43:21
  going
• 43:21
  in
• 43:21
  and
• 43:21
  Walter
• 43:22
  Johnson
• 43:22
  and
• 43:22
  Cy
• 43:23
  Young
• 43:23
  and
• 43:23
  Christy
• 43:24
  Mathewson,
• 43:25
  who
• 43:25
  were
• 43:25
  just
• 43:26
  unbelievable
• 43:27
  players,
• 43:28
  incredible
• 43:28
  players.
• 43:29
  And
• 43:29
  then
• 43:30
  you
• 43:30
  put
• 43:30
  them
• 43:30
  up
• 43:30
  against
• 43:30
  the
• 43:30
  names
• 43:31
  like
• 43:31
  Harold
• 43:31
  Baines.
• 43:31
  I'm
• 43:32
  like,
• 43:32
  come
• 43:32
  on
• 43:32
  now.
• 43:34
  There's
• 43:34
  no
• 43:34
  comparison.
• 43:36
  It
• 43:36
  doesn't
• 43:37
  make
• 43:37
  any
• 43:37
  sense
• 43:37
  to
• 43:38
  me.
• 43:38
  So,
• 43:39
  yeah,
• 43:40
  I
• 43:40
  don't,
• 43:40
  I
• 43:41
  mean,
• 43:41
  it
• 43:41
  shouldn't
• 43:42
  be
• 43:42
  about
• 43:42
  just,
• 43:42
  let's
• 43:43
  get
• 43:43
  somebody
• 43:43
  in.
• 43:44
  And
• 43:44
  they're
• 43:44
  doing
• 43:44
  it
• 43:44
  in
• 43:44
  football,
• 43:45
  too.
• 43:45
  I
• 43:46
  mean,
• 43:46
  there's
• 43:46
  guys
• 43:46
  in
• 43:47
  the
• 43:47
  hall
• 43:47
  of
• 43:47
  Fame
• 43:47
  football
• 43:47
  don't
• 43:48
  belong
• 43:48
  there
• 43:48
  either.
• 43:49
  But
• 43:50
  yeah,
• 43:50
  I
• 43:50
  hear
• 43:51
  what
• 43:51
  you're
• 43:51
  saying
• 43:51
  and
• 43:52
  I
• 43:52
  really
• 43:52
  think
• 43:53
  it's
• 43:53
  got
• 43:53
  to
• 43:53
  be
• 43:54
  based
• 43:54
  on
• 43:54
  what
• 43:54
  you've
• 43:55
  done
• 43:55
  on
• 43:55
  the
• 43:55
  field
• 43:56
  and
• 43:56
  how
• 43:56
  great
• 43:57
  of
• 43:57
  a
• 43:57
  player
• 43:57
  you
• 43:58
  were.
• 44:00
  And
• 44:00
  not
• 44:00
  just
• 44:00
  all
• 44:00
  about
• 44:00
  numbers,
• 44:01
  but
• 44:02
  you
• 44:02
  know,
• 44:02
  what
• 44:03
  you
• 44:03
  accomplished
• 44:05
  also.
• 44:06
  I
• 44:06
  mean,
• 44:07
  you
• 44:07
  can
• 44:07
  play
• 44:07
  baseball
• 44:08
  for
• 44:08
  20
• 44:08
  years
• 44:08
  and
• 44:08
  be
• 44:08
  a.330
• 44:09
  hitter,
• 44:09
  but
• 44:09
  that
• 44:10
  doesn't
• 44:10
  mean
• 44:11
  you're
• 44:11
  one
• 44:11
  of
• 44:11
  the
• 44:11
  greatest
• 44:12
  ever.
• 44:16
  What
• 44:16
  about,
• 44:17
  let
• 44:17
  me
• 44:17
  put
• 44:18
  you
• 44:18
  on
• 44:18
  the
• 44:18
  spot
• 44:18
  this
• 44:19
  way.
• 44:21
  What
• 44:21
  would
• 44:21
  be
• 44:23
  your
• 44:24
  strongest
• 44:25
  argument
• 44:26
  for
• 44:27
  not
• 44:28
  putting
• 44:29
  Mazarowski
• 44:30
  in
• 44:30
  the
• 44:30
  hall
• 44:31
  of
• 44:31
  Fame?
• 44:31
  When
• 44:32
  you
• 44:32
  go
• 44:32
  back
• 44:32
  to
• 44:33
  the
• 44:33
  early
• 44:33
  days
• 44:33
  and
• 44:34
  you
• 44:34
  reel
• 44:34
  off
• 44:35
  the
• 44:35
  names
• 44:35
  that
• 44:35
  you
• 44:36
  did,
• 44:37
  what
• 44:37
  would
• 44:37
  be
• 44:37
  the
• 44:37
  argument
• 44:38
  against
• 44:39
  putting
• 44:40
  Mazeroski
• 44:41
  in
• 44:41
  the
• 44:41
  hall
• 44:42
  of
• 44:42
  Fame?
• 44:43
  Yeah,
• 44:43
  that's
• 44:43
  a
• 44:44
  tough
• 44:44
  call
• 44:44
  because
• 44:45
  obviously
• 44:46
  he's
• 44:46
  nowhere
• 44:46
  near
• 44:47
  the
• 44:47
  offensive.
• 44:48
  He
• 44:48
  doesn't
• 44:49
  have
• 44:49
  the
• 44:49
  offensive
• 44:49
  production
• 44:50
  some
• 44:50
  of
• 44:50
  these
• 44:50
  guys
• 44:50
  have.
• 44:52
  So
• 44:52
  it's
• 44:53
  a
• 44:53
  tough
• 44:53
  philosophical
• 44:54
  question.
• 44:54
  Do
• 44:54
  you
• 44:55
  put
• 44:55
  a
• 44:55
  guy
• 44:55
  in
• 44:55
  because
• 44:55
  he's
• 44:56
  defensive,
• 44:57
  like
• 44:57
  he's
• 44:58
  an
• 44:58
  outstanding
• 44:59
  Golden
• 44:59
  Glove
• 45:00
  defensive
• 45:00
  player
• 45:01
  and
• 45:01
  ignore
• 45:02
  what
• 45:02
  he
• 45:02
  did
• 45:02
  at
• 45:02
  the
• 45:03
  plate?
• 45:04
  It's
• 45:04
  tough,
• 45:04
  you
• 45:05
  know,
• 45:05
  and
• 45:06
  I
• 45:07
  mean,
• 45:07
  I'm
• 45:07
  glad
• 45:07
  he's
• 45:07
  in.
• 45:08
  But
• 45:09
  really,
• 45:09
  if
• 45:09
  you,
• 45:09
  if
• 45:10
  you
• 45:10
  think
• 45:10
  about
• 45:10
  the
• 45:10
  early
• 45:11
  guys,
• 45:12
  obviously
• 45:12
  Mazerosky
• 45:13
  wouldn't
• 45:13
  belong
• 45:14
  either.
• 45:16
  So
• 45:17
  it's
• 45:17
  really
• 45:17
  tough
• 45:18
  to
• 45:18
  say.
• 45:19
  But
• 45:20
  I
• 45:20
  don't
• 45:20
  know
• 45:21
  if
• 45:21
  it's
• 45:21
  biased
• 45:21
  talking
• 45:22
  because
• 45:22
  he's
• 45:22
  a
• 45:22
  Pirate,
• 45:24
  but
• 45:25
  because
• 45:25
  then
• 45:26
  you
• 45:26
  mentioned
• 45:26
  Harold
• 45:26
  Baines
• 45:27
  and
• 45:27
  Harold
• 45:27
  Baines
• 45:28
  obviously
• 45:28
  way
• 45:28
  better
• 45:28
  offensive
• 45:29
  player
• 45:29
  than
• 45:29
  Mazerosky
• 45:31
  and
• 45:31
  he's
• 45:31
  in
• 45:31
  the
• 45:31
  hall
• 45:31
  of
• 45:32
  Fame,
• 45:32
  but
• 45:32
  does
• 45:33
  he
• 45:33
  really
• 45:33
  belong
• 45:33
  there?
• 45:34
  Can
• 45:35
  you.
• 45:35
  My,
• 45:35
  I
• 45:36
  think
• 45:36
  what
• 45:36
  I
• 45:36
  did
• 45:36
  when
• 45:36
  I
• 45:36
  wrote
• 45:37
  that
• 45:37
  article
• 45:37
  is
• 45:37
  it
• 45:37
  just
• 45:37
  asked
• 45:38
  the
• 45:38
  question
• 45:38
  to
• 45:39
  myself
• 45:39
  is
• 45:40
  if
• 45:40
  you
• 45:40
  spit
• 45:41
  out
• 45:41
  the
• 45:41
  name,
• 45:42
  does
• 45:42
  the
• 45:42
  first
• 45:43
  thing
• 45:43
  you
• 45:43
  think
• 45:43
  of,
• 45:43
  wow,
• 45:44
  great
• 45:44
  player.
• 45:46
  And
• 45:46
  then
• 45:46
  you
• 45:46
  say,
• 45:47
  yeah,
• 45:47
  well,
• 45:47
  then
• 45:47
  he's
• 45:47
  probably
• 45:48
  in
• 45:48
  the
• 45:48
  hall
• 45:48
  of
• 45:48
  Fame
• 45:48
  now.
• 45:49
  Everybody
• 45:49
  knows
• 45:49
  Babe
• 45:50
  Ruth
• 45:50
  is.
• 45:50
  You
• 45:50
  can't
• 45:51
  deny
• 45:51
  that
• 45:52
  some
• 45:53
  younger
• 45:53
  people
• 45:53
  probably
• 45:54
  have
• 45:54
  no
• 45:54
  idea
• 45:54
  who
• 45:54
  Walter
• 45:55
  Johnson
• 45:55
  is,
• 45:55
  but
• 45:55
  God,
• 45:56
  he
• 45:56
  was
• 45:56
  a
• 45:56
  great
• 45:56
  pitcher.
• 45:57
  Chrissy
• 45:58
  Matheson,
• 45:58
  fantastic
• 45:59
  pitcher.
• 45:59
  Cy
• 46:00
  Young,
• 46:00
  obviously
• 46:01
  we
• 46:01
  have
• 46:01
  the
• 46:01
  award
• 46:01
  named
• 46:02
  after
• 46:02
  him.
• 46:02
  He
• 46:03
  still
• 46:03
  is
• 46:03
  the
• 46:04
  lead
• 46:04
  leader
• 46:04
  in
• 46:05
  all
• 46:05
  time
• 46:05
  wins,
• 46:07
  but
• 46:08
  always
• 46:08
  will.
• 46:08
  But
• 46:08
  no
• 46:09
  one's
• 46:09
  going
• 46:09
  to
• 46:09
  get
• 46:09
  500
• 46:11
  wins.
• 46:12
  No.
• 46:12
  And
• 46:13
  it's
• 46:13
  funny
• 46:13
  you
• 46:13
  mentioned
• 46:14
  that
• 46:14
  because
• 46:14
  I
• 46:14
  think
• 46:14
  I
• 46:14
  wrote
• 46:15
  an
• 46:15
  article
• 46:16
  a
• 46:16
  couple
• 46:17
  years
• 46:17
  ago
• 46:17
  too
• 46:17
  about
• 46:18
  how
• 46:19
  pitching
• 46:19
  has
• 46:19
  changed.
• 46:20
  And
• 46:20
  if
• 46:21
  you
• 46:21
  look
• 46:21
  at
• 46:21
  the
• 46:21
  complete
• 46:22
  game
• 46:22
  records,
• 46:23
  the
• 46:23
  shutout
• 46:24
  records,
• 46:25
  they're
• 46:25
  never
• 46:26
  going
• 46:26
  to
• 46:26
  be
• 46:26
  touched
• 46:26
  because
• 46:27
  they
• 46:27
  don't
• 46:27
  allow
• 46:27
  the
• 46:27
  pitchers
• 46:28
  to
• 46:28
  go
• 46:28
  past
• 46:28
  five
• 46:28
  or
• 46:28
  six
• 46:29
  innings
• 46:29
  anymore.
• 46:30
  So
• 46:30
  you're
• 46:30
  never
• 46:30
  going
• 46:31
  to
• 46:31
  have
• 46:31
  a
• 46:31
  complete
• 46:31
  game
• 46:31
  by
• 46:32
  one
• 46:32
  pitcher.
• 46:34
  Noel
• 46:34
  Ryan.
• 46:36
  Yeah.
• 46:37
  No
• 46:37
  one's
• 46:37
  going
• 46:37
  to
• 46:37
  ever
• 46:37
  lose
• 46:38
  315
• 46:39
  games
• 46:40
  like
• 46:40
  Cy
• 46:40
  Young
• 46:41
  did.
• 46:41
  You
• 46:41
  just
• 46:41
  don't.
• 46:42
  Exactly.
• 46:43
  Exactly.
• 46:44
  Some
• 46:44
  of
• 46:44
  these
• 46:44
  guys
• 46:45
  might
• 46:45
  not
• 46:45
  make
• 46:45
  315
• 46:46
  starts
• 46:47
  in
• 46:47
  their
• 46:47
  career.
• 46:48
  Right,
• 46:49
  Exactly.
• 46:51
  And
• 46:51
  you
• 46:51
  think
• 46:51
  about
• 46:51
  records
• 46:52
  that
• 46:52
  just
• 46:52
  will
• 46:52
  never
• 46:53
  be
• 46:53
  broken.
• 46:53
  I
• 46:53
  mean
• 46:53
  those
• 46:54
  pitching
• 46:54
  numbers
• 46:55
  are
• 46:55
  never
• 46:55
  going
• 46:55
  to
• 46:55
  be
• 46:56
  touched.
• 46:56
  It's
• 46:56
  impossible.
• 46:57
  And
• 46:58
  you
• 46:58
  think
• 46:58
  about
• 46:59
  what
• 46:59
  Nolan
• 46:59
  Ryan
• 46:59
  did.
• 47:00
  I
• 47:01
  always
• 47:01
  just
• 47:02
  shake
• 47:02
  my
• 47:02
  head
• 47:03
  going
• 47:03
  in
• 47:03
  disbelief
• 47:03
  that
• 47:04
  he,
• 47:04
  this
• 47:04
  guy
• 47:04
  threw
• 47:04
  seven
• 47:05
  no
• 47:05
  hitters.
• 47:06
  That's
• 47:06
  unheard
• 47:07
  of.
• 47:08
  Nobody's
• 47:08
  ever
• 47:08
  going
• 47:08
  to
• 47:09
  do
• 47:09
  that
• 47:09
  because
• 47:09
  they
• 47:09
  can't
• 47:09
  get
• 47:10
  to
• 47:10
  a
• 47:10
  complete
• 47:10
  game
• 47:10
  anyway.
• 47:12
  Yeah.
• 47:12
  And
• 47:12
  then
• 47:12
  the
• 47:13
  one
• 47:13
  hitters
• 47:13
  and
• 47:14
  I
• 47:14
  think
• 47:14
  he
• 47:14
  has
• 47:14
  an
• 47:15
  incredible
• 47:15
  amount
• 47:15
  of
• 47:16
  one
• 47:16
  hitters
• 47:16
  and
• 47:16
  two
• 47:17
  hitters.
• 47:17
  Well,
• 47:19
  so,
• 47:20
  so
• 47:24
  where
• 47:24
  do
• 47:24
  you
• 47:25
  think
• 47:26
  you
• 47:26
  mentioned
• 47:27
  Joe
• 47:27
  Morgan
• 47:29
  and
• 47:29
  you
• 47:30
  know
• 47:30
  you
• 47:30
  got
• 47:31
  from
• 47:32
  even
• 47:33
  more
• 47:34
  recent
• 47:34
  times
• 47:34
  guys
• 47:35
  like
• 47:35
  Brian
• 47:36
  Sandberg.
• 47:38
  Where
• 47:39
  does
• 47:39
  Mazeroski
• 47:40
  in
• 47:41
  your
• 47:41
  mind
• 47:42
  rank
• 47:43
  among
• 47:44
  the
• 47:44
  greatest
• 47:45
  second
• 47:45
  basemen
• 47:46
  in
• 47:46
  baseball
• 47:47
  history?
• 47:51
  As
• 47:51
  biased
• 47:51
  as
• 47:51
  I
• 47:52
  might
• 47:52
  be
• 47:52
  warned,
• 47:52
  I
• 47:52
  can't
• 47:53
  say
• 47:53
  that
• 47:54
  he
• 47:54
  would
• 47:54
  be
• 47:54
  one
• 47:54
  of
• 47:54
  the
• 47:55
  greatest
• 47:55
  second
• 47:55
  baseman.
• 47:56
  That's
• 47:56
  just,
• 47:56
  it's
• 47:56
  not
• 47:56
  possible
• 47:57
  because
• 47:57
  you
• 47:57
  have
• 47:58
  to
• 47:58
  think
• 47:58
  about
• 47:58
  all
• 47:58
  round
• 47:59
  player.
• 48:00
  And
• 48:00
  Joe
• 48:00
  Morgan
• 48:01
  had
• 48:01
  a
• 48:01
  bat
• 48:02
  he
• 48:02
  could
• 48:02
  hit
• 48:03
  and
• 48:03
  he
• 48:03
  was
• 48:03
  a
• 48:03
  great
• 48:04
  defensive
• 48:04
  second
• 48:05
  baseman
• 48:05
  as
• 48:05
  well.
• 48:07
  And
• 48:08
  so
• 48:09
  it's
• 48:09
  just
• 48:09
  hard
• 48:09
  to
• 48:10
  say
• 48:10
  put
• 48:10
  him
• 48:10
  in
• 48:10
  that
• 48:11
  class
• 48:11
  of
• 48:11
  people.
• 48:11
  Ryan
• 48:12
  Sandberger,
• 48:12
  great
• 48:13
  hitter.
• 48:14
  Great
• 48:14
  hitter.
• 48:14
  Now
• 48:15
  I
• 48:15
  wouldn't
• 48:15
  say
• 48:15
  he's
• 48:16
  as
• 48:16
  good
• 48:16
  as
• 48:16
  defensive
• 48:16
  player
• 48:18
  but
• 48:18
  you
• 48:18
  really
• 48:18
  got
• 48:19
  to
• 48:19
  think
• 48:19
  of
• 48:19
  all
• 48:19
  around
• 48:19
  players.
• 48:21
  Are
• 48:21
  they
• 48:21
  all
• 48:22
  around
• 48:22
  great
• 48:22
  players?
• 48:23
  And
• 48:23
  that's
• 48:24
  what
• 48:24
  makes
• 48:24
  Ohtani
• 48:25
  so
• 48:25
  special
• 48:27
  because
• 48:27
  not
• 48:27
  only
• 48:27
  can
• 48:27
  this
• 48:28
  guy
• 48:28
  pitch,
• 48:28
  he
• 48:28
  can
• 48:29
  hit.
• 48:29
  I
• 48:30
  mean
• 48:30
  it's
• 48:30
  crazy.
• 48:32
  He's
• 48:32
  like
• 48:32
  a
• 48:32
  once
• 48:33
  in
• 48:33
  a
• 48:33
  lifetime
• 48:33
  player.
• 48:34
  He's
• 48:34
  like
• 48:34
  a
• 48:34
  Babe
• 48:34
  Ruth
• 48:35
  reborn.
• 48:36
  You're
• 48:36
  not
• 48:36
  going
• 48:37
  to
• 48:37
  see
• 48:37
  players
• 48:37
  like
• 48:37
  that.
• 48:37
  So
• 48:37
  when
• 48:38
  you
• 48:38
  consider
• 48:38
  things
• 48:39
  like
• 48:39
  that,
• 48:39
  you
• 48:39
  got
• 48:39
  to
• 48:39
  consider,
• 48:39
  I
• 48:40
  think
• 48:40
  all
• 48:40
  around
• 48:40
  player.
• 48:41
  So
• 48:42
  if
• 48:42
  you
• 48:42
  take
• 48:43
  into
• 48:43
  consideration
• 48:44
  everything
• 48:44
  about
• 48:45
  the
• 48:45
  guy,
• 48:46
  who's
• 48:46
  the
• 48:46
  better
• 48:46
  player?
• 48:47
  And
• 48:47
  I
• 48:47
  can't
• 48:47
  put
• 48:47
  him
• 48:48
  as
• 48:48
  the
• 48:48
  best
• 48:48
  second
• 48:48
  baseman
• 48:49
  all
• 48:49
  time.
• 48:49
  That's
• 48:50
  not
• 48:50
  possible.
• 48:52
  Is
• 48:52
  He
• 48:52
  a
• 48:52
  top
• 48:52
  10
• 48:53
  second
• 48:53
  baseman
• 48:54
  of
• 48:54
  all
• 48:54
  time
• 48:54
  in
• 48:54
  your
• 48:54
  mind?
• 48:58
  I
• 48:58
  have
• 48:58
  to
• 48:58
  think
• 48:58
  about
• 48:58
  how
• 48:59
  many
• 48:59
  second
• 48:59
  baseman
• 48:59
  I
• 48:59
  can
• 49:00
  think
• 49:00
  of.
• 49:00
  But
• 49:00
  Ryan
• 49:00
  Sandberg
• 49:01
  and
• 49:01
  Joe
• 49:01
  Morgan
• 49:02
  right
• 49:02
  off
• 49:02
  the
• 49:02
  bat
• 49:02
  are
• 49:02
  above
• 49:03
  him.
• 49:03
  So
• 49:05
  I
• 49:05
  would,
• 49:06
  I'd
• 49:06
  say
• 49:06
  he'd
• 49:07
  rival
• 49:07
  the
• 49:07
  top
• 49:08
  10
• 49:08
  if
• 49:08
  not
• 49:08
  in
• 49:08
  the
• 49:09
  top
• 49:09
  10.
• 49:11
  Mm.
• 49:13
  Has
• 49:13
  his
• 49:14
  legacy
• 49:14
  changed
• 49:15
  over
• 49:15
  time?
• 49:16
  Is
• 49:17
  analytics
• 49:18
  have
• 49:18
  reshaped
• 49:19
  how
• 49:19
  we
• 49:19
  evaluate
• 49:20
  players
• 49:20
  players.
• 49:21
  How
• 49:21
  do
• 49:21
  you
• 49:21
  think
• 49:22
  his,
• 49:22
  his
• 49:22
  legacy
• 49:23
  is
• 49:23
  viewed
• 49:24
  today
• 49:24
  as
• 49:24
  opposed
• 49:25
  to
• 49:25
  what
• 49:26
  it
• 49:26
  was
• 49:26
  back
• 49:27
  back
• 49:27
  in
• 49:27
  the
• 49:28
  day?
• 49:30
  Well,
• 49:31
  I
• 49:31
  mean
• 49:32
  I
• 49:32
  think
• 49:32
  his
• 49:33
  reputation
• 49:33
  is
• 49:34
  set
• 49:34
  in
• 49:35
  stone
• 49:35
  for
• 49:36
  what
• 49:36
  he
• 49:36
  accomplished,
• 49:37
  what
• 49:37
  he
• 49:37
  meant
• 49:37
  to
• 49:37
  Pittsburgh.
• 49:39
  As
• 49:39
  a
• 49:39
  matter
• 49:39
  of
• 49:40
  fact,
• 49:40
  I
• 49:40
  think
• 49:40
  home
• 49:40
  plate,
• 49:41
  they
• 49:41
  saved
• 49:41
  it
• 49:41
  and
• 49:41
  put
• 49:41
  it
• 49:42
  somewhere.
• 49:42
  I
• 49:42
  know
• 49:42
  a
• 49:42
  portion
• 49:43
  of
• 49:43
  Forbes
• 49:43
  field
• 49:44
  wall
• 49:45
  where
• 49:45
  he
• 49:45
  hit
• 49:45
  the
• 49:45
  home
• 49:45
  run
• 49:46
  is
• 49:46
  still
• 49:46
  on
• 49:46
  display
• 49:47
  over
• 49:47
  there
• 49:47
  in
• 49:47
  Oakland
• 49:47
  somewhere.
• 49:50
  But,
• 49:51
  yeah,
• 49:52
  evaluations
• 49:52
  have
• 49:53
  changed.
• 49:53
  I
• 49:53
  mean,
• 49:55
  right
• 49:55
  now,
• 49:55
  the
• 49:56
  Pirates
• 49:56
  have
• 49:56
  this.
• 49:56
  This
• 49:57
  kid,
• 49:58
  Connor
• 49:58
  Griffin,
• 49:59
  who's
• 49:59
  supposed
• 50:00
  to
• 50:00
  be
• 50:00
  the
• 50:00
  next
• 50:00
  great
• 50:00
  superstar,
• 50:02
  but
• 50:02
  he's
• 50:02
  struggling
• 50:02
  at
• 50:03
  the
• 50:03
  plate.
• 50:04
  And
• 50:04
  I
• 50:04
  keep
• 50:05
  watching
• 50:05
  game
• 50:05
  after
• 50:05
  game
• 50:06
  saying,
• 50:06
  how
• 50:06
  long
• 50:06
  are
• 50:06
  they
• 50:06
  gonna
• 50:07
  let
• 50:07
  this
• 50:07
  kid
• 50:07
  stay
• 50:07
  in
• 50:07
  the
• 50:07
  majors
• 50:08
  if
• 50:08
  he
• 50:08
  doesn't
• 50:08
  start
• 50:09
  hitting?
• 50:09
  But
• 50:10
  he's
• 50:10
  a
• 50:10
  great
• 50:10
  defensive
• 50:11
  player.
• 50:11
  So,
• 50:12
  you
• 50:12
  know,
• 50:13
  the
• 50:13
  evaluation,
• 50:13
  I
• 50:14
  think
• 50:14
  they
• 50:14
  give
• 50:14
  more.
• 50:15
  More
• 50:16
  rope
• 50:17
  these
• 50:17
  days
• 50:18
  than
• 50:19
  they
• 50:19
  did
• 50:19
  back
• 50:19
  then.
• 50:22
  It's
• 50:22
  hard
• 50:22
  to.
• 50:23
  It's
• 50:23
  hard
• 50:23
  to
• 50:23
  make
• 50:23
  the
• 50:23
  major
• 50:23
  leagues
• 50:24
  back
• 50:24
  then,
• 50:24
  and
• 50:24
  it's
• 50:25
  still
• 50:25
  hard
• 50:25
  today,
• 50:25
  but
• 50:27
  I
• 50:27
  think
• 50:27
  they
• 50:28
  give
• 50:28
  them
• 50:28
  a
• 50:28
  little
• 50:28
  more
• 50:29
  breathing
• 50:29
  room.
• 50:30
  Coming
• 50:30
  up,.
• 50:34
  When
• 50:34
  we
• 50:34
  talk
• 50:34
  about
• 50:35
  Pittsburgh
• 50:36
  sports,
• 50:39
  we
• 50:39
  think
• 50:39
  of
• 50:39
  Clemente,
• 50:41
  we
• 50:41
  think
• 50:41
  of
• 50:42
  Willie
• 50:42
  Star
• 50:42
  Joke.
• 50:44
  We
• 50:44
  think
• 50:44
  of
• 50:44
  Mario
• 50:45
  Lemieux,
• 50:46
  Sidney
• 50:47
  Crosby,
• 50:49
  Franco
• 50:50
  Bradshaw.
• 50:52
  Oh,
• 50:52
  yeah.
• 50:53
  You
• 50:54
  know,
• 50:54
  and
• 50:54
  in
• 50:55
  more
• 50:55
  recent
• 50:55
  times,.
• 50:56
  You
• 50:56
  know,
• 50:57
  they
• 50:58
  can't
• 50:58
  leave
• 50:58
  out
• 50:58
  Art
• 50:58
  Rooney.
• 50:59
  Singer.
• 51:00
  Yeah.
• 51:01
  You
• 51:01
  know,
• 51:01
  the
• 51:02
  owner,
• 51:02
  Steelers.
• 51:03
  Yeah.
• 51:05
  You
• 51:05
  know,
• 51:06
  there's.
• 51:06
  There's
• 51:06
  some
• 51:07
  very
• 51:08
  legendary
• 51:09
  names
• 51:10
  in
• 51:10
  Pittsburgh
• 51:11
  sports
• 51:11
  history.
• 51:13
  Absolutely.
• 51:13
  Where
• 51:14
  is
• 51:14
  Mazarowski
• 51:15
  on
• 51:15
  that
• 51:16
  list?
• 51:17
  Oh,
• 51:17
  my
• 51:18
  gosh,
• 51:18
  he's
• 51:18
  right
• 51:19
  there
• 51:19
  up
• 51:19
  with
• 51:19
  the
• 51:19
  rest
• 51:19
  of
• 51:19
  them.
• 51:20
  I
• 51:20
  mean,
• 51:21
  he's
• 51:21
  a
• 51:21
  hero.
• 51:22
  Just
• 51:22
  because
• 51:23
  of
• 51:23
  one
• 51:23
  swing
• 51:23
  of
• 51:23
  the
• 51:23
  bat,
• 51:24
  that
• 51:24
  helped
• 51:24
  him
• 51:24
  a
• 51:25
  lot.
• 51:25
  But
• 51:25
  I
• 51:25
  think
• 51:25
  he
• 51:26
  was
• 51:26
  still
• 51:26
  would
• 51:26
  have
• 51:26
  been
• 51:27
  loved
• 51:27
  and
• 51:27
  beloved
• 51:27
  in
• 51:28
  Pittsburgh,
• 51:28
  regardless
• 51:29
  of
• 51:29
  that
• 51:29
  home
• 51:29
  run
• 51:30
  or
• 51:30
  not,
• 51:31
  because
• 51:31
  he
• 51:31
  spent
• 51:31
  his
• 51:31
  whole
• 51:32
  career
• 51:32
  in
• 51:32
  Pittsburgh.
• 51:33
  He
• 51:33
  never
• 51:33
  played
• 51:34
  for
• 51:34
  anybody
• 51:34
  else.
• 51:35
  He
• 51:36
  stayed
• 51:36
  in
• 51:36
  Pittsburgh
• 51:36
  afterwards.
• 51:37
  He
• 51:37
  became
• 51:37
  an
• 51:38
  announcer
• 51:38
  with
• 51:38
  them.
• 51:39
  I
• 51:39
  mean,
• 51:40
  he
• 51:40
  loved
• 51:40
  the
• 51:40
  city.
• 51:41
  The
• 51:41
  city
• 51:41
  loved
• 51:41
  him.
• 51:46
  To
• 51:47
  someone
• 51:48
  that's
• 51:48
  not
• 51:49
  from
• 51:49
  Pittsburgh,
• 51:52
  that
• 51:52
  hasn't
• 51:52
  been
• 51:53
  to
• 51:53
  Pittsburgh,
• 51:54
  that
• 51:54
  is
• 51:56
  devoted
• 51:56
  to
• 51:56
  their
• 51:57
  own
• 51:57
  team
• 51:57
  and
• 51:57
  doesn't
• 51:58
  pay
• 51:58
  attention
• 51:59
  to
• 51:59
  the
• 52:00
  great
• 52:00
  history
• 52:00
  of
• 52:01
  some
• 52:01
  of
• 52:02
  baseball's
• 52:02
  older
• 52:03
  players.
• 52:07
  How
• 52:07
  would
• 52:07
  they.
• 52:08
  How
• 52:08
  would
• 52:08
  you
• 52:09
  describe
• 52:11
  Bill
• 52:11
  Mazarovsky
• 52:12
  to
• 52:12
  them
• 52:13
  or
• 52:13
  to
• 52:13
  a
• 52:13
  younger
• 52:14
  fan?
• 52:14
  In
• 52:14
  one
• 52:15
  sentence?
• 52:15
  What
• 52:15
  would
• 52:15
  you
• 52:16
  say?
• 52:16
  How
• 52:16
  would
• 52:17
  you
• 52:17
  describe
• 52:17
  Bill
• 52:18
  Mazeroski,
• 52:19
  the
• 52:19
  importance
• 52:20
  of
• 52:20
  him
• 52:20
  to
• 52:21
  the
• 52:21
  city
• 52:21
  of
• 52:22
  Pittsburgh
• 52:23
  and
• 52:23
  to
• 52:24
  the
• 52:24
  Pittsburgh
• 52:24
  Pirates?
• 52:26
  Yeah.
• 52:27
  Well,
• 52:28
  again,
• 52:29
  being
• 52:29
  a
• 52:29
  lifelong
• 52:30
  Pirate,
• 52:30
  never
• 52:31
  played
• 52:31
  for
• 52:31
  anybody
• 52:31
  else,
• 52:32
  and
• 52:32
  I've
• 52:33
  never
• 52:33
  met
• 52:33
  him,
• 52:33
  but
• 52:33
  I
• 52:33
  know
• 52:33
  my
• 52:34
  mother
• 52:34
  met
• 52:34
  him.
• 52:35
  Extreme
• 52:36
  gentleman,
• 52:37
  nicest
• 52:38
  guy
• 52:38
  you
• 52:38
  ever
• 52:38
  want
• 52:39
  to
• 52:39
  meet.
• 52:40
  And
• 52:40
  he
• 52:41
  has
• 52:41
  that
• 52:41
  reputation.
• 52:42
  You
• 52:42
  don't
• 52:42
  have
• 52:42
  to
• 52:42
  meet
• 52:42
  him.
• 52:43
  He
• 52:43
  carries
• 52:43
  that
• 52:44
  reputation
• 52:44
  around
• 52:44
  the
• 52:44
  city.
• 52:45
  People
• 52:45
  know
• 52:45
  him
• 52:45
  by
• 52:45
  listening
• 52:45
  to
• 52:46
  him
• 52:46
  on
• 52:46
  radio
• 52:46
  or
• 52:46
  whatever
• 52:46
  else
• 52:47
  they
• 52:47
  know.
• 52:47
  What
• 52:48
  he's
• 52:48
  all
• 52:48
  about.
• 52:49
  So,
• 52:51
  yeah,
• 52:51
  he's
• 52:51
  so
• 52:52
  well
• 52:52
  respected
• 52:52
  in
• 52:52
  Pittsburgh
• 52:54
  and
• 52:55
  his
• 52:55
  reputation
• 52:55
  speaks
• 52:56
  for
• 52:56
  itself.
• 52:56
  And
• 52:57
  when
• 52:57
  you're
• 52:57
  an
• 52:58
  athlete
• 52:58
  in
• 52:58
  Pittsburgh
• 52:59
  and
• 52:59
  you've
• 52:59
  had
• 52:59
  a
• 53:00
  Hall
• 53:00
  of
• 53:00
  Fame
• 53:01
  career,
• 53:01
  even
• 53:02
  if
• 53:02
  you're
• 53:02
  a
• 53:02
  superstar,
• 53:03
  the
• 53:04
  city
• 53:04
  embraces
• 53:04
  you.
• 53:06
  And
• 53:06
  even
• 53:06
  if
• 53:07
  you
• 53:07
  leave
• 53:07
  the
• 53:07
  city
• 53:07
  Sometimes,
• 53:08
  like
• 53:08
  Andrew
• 53:08
  McCutcheon
• 53:09
  has,
• 53:09
  he's
• 53:09
  been
• 53:10
  there,
• 53:10
  left,
• 53:11
  came
• 53:11
  back,
• 53:11
  left
• 53:12
  again.
• 53:12
  They
• 53:13
  still
• 53:13
  love
• 53:13
  him.
• 53:15
  And
• 53:15
  he's
• 53:16
  just
• 53:16
  a
• 53:17
  fan
• 53:17
  favorite
• 53:17
  in
• 53:17
  Pittsburgh,
• 53:18
  whether
• 53:18
  he's
• 53:18
  playing
• 53:18
  for
• 53:19
  us
• 53:19
  or
• 53:19
  not.
• 53:20
  Pittsburgh
• 53:20
  embraces
• 53:21
  their
• 53:22
  beloved
• 53:22
  athletes.
• 53:23
  Franco
• 53:24
  is
• 53:24
  a
• 53:24
  good
• 53:24
  one.
• 53:25
  And
• 53:25
  when
• 53:25
  I
• 53:25
  mentioned
• 53:26
  Art
• 53:26
  Rooney
• 53:26
  Sr.
• 53:26
  Owner
• 53:27
  of
• 53:27
  the
• 53:27
  Stewards
• 53:27
  for
• 53:27
  the
• 53:27
  longest
• 53:28
  time,
• 53:29
  I
• 53:29
  always
• 53:29
  say
• 53:30
  that
• 53:30
  you
• 53:30
  see
• 53:30
  him
• 53:31
  on
• 53:31
  television,
• 53:32
  you
• 53:32
  know
• 53:32
  what
• 53:32
  he's
• 53:32
  all
• 53:32
  about.
• 53:34
  And
• 53:34
  even
• 53:34
  if
• 53:34
  you've
• 53:34
  never
• 53:35
  met
• 53:35
  him,
• 53:35
  it's
• 53:36
  like
• 53:36
  you
• 53:36
  sit
• 53:36
  at
• 53:36
  home,
• 53:36
  you
• 53:36
  go,
• 53:37
  God,
• 53:37
  I
• 53:37
  feel
• 53:37
  like
• 53:38
  he's
• 53:38
  like
• 53:38
  my
• 53:38
  grandfather
• 53:39
  or
• 53:39
  something.
• 53:40
  You
• 53:40
  almost
• 53:40
  feel
• 53:41
  like
• 53:41
  you
• 53:41
  know
• 53:41
  him
• 53:42
  and
• 53:42
  that's
• 53:43
  what
• 53:43
  he
• 53:44
  gives
• 53:45
  out.
• 53:46
  You
• 53:46
  see
• 53:46
  him
• 53:46
  when
• 53:46
  you
• 53:46
  hear
• 53:46
  him.
• 53:47
  Everybody
• 53:47
  loved
• 53:48
  this
• 53:48
  guy
• 53:48
  to
• 53:48
  death.
• 53:50
  Just
• 53:50
  a
• 53:50
  great,
• 53:51
  great
• 53:51
  guy.
• 53:52
  And
• 53:52
  one
• 53:52
  of
• 53:52
  the
• 53:53
  most
• 53:53
  beloved
• 53:53
  owners
• 53:53
  in
• 53:54
  the
• 53:54
  National
• 53:54
  Football
• 53:54
  League
• 53:55
  when
• 53:55
  he
• 53:55
  was
• 53:55
  alive.
• 53:55
  So,
• 53:56
  yeah,
• 53:57
  they
• 53:57
  embraced
• 53:58
  their
• 53:58
  athletes,.
• 54:02
  Put
• 54:02
  you
• 54:02
  on
• 54:02
  the
• 54:02
  spot
• 54:03
  again.
• 54:04
  1960,
• 54:06
  one
• 54:06
  of
• 54:06
  the
• 54:06
  greatest
• 54:07
  moments
• 54:07
  in
• 54:07
  baseball
• 54:08
  history
• 54:09
  and
• 54:09
  certainly
• 54:10
  the
• 54:10
  greatest
• 54:10
  moment
• 54:11
  in
• 54:12
  Mazarowski's
• 54:13
  baseball
• 54:13
  career.
• 54:15
  Are
• 54:15
  there
• 54:15
  any
• 54:15
  other
• 54:16
  moments
• 54:17
  that
• 54:17
  you
• 54:17
  are
• 54:18
  aware
• 54:18
  of
• 54:19
  during
• 54:19
  Mazarowski's
• 54:20
  career
• 54:21
  that
• 54:22
  deserves
• 54:22
  to
• 54:23
  be
• 54:23
  spoken
• 54:23
  about?
• 54:26
  None
• 54:26
  that
• 54:26
  really
• 54:26
  stand
• 54:27
  out
• 54:27
  like
• 54:27
  that.
• 54:27
  I
• 54:27
  mean,
• 54:27
  nothing's
• 54:28
  going
• 54:28
  to
• 54:28
  top
• 54:28
  that.
• 54:29
  There's
• 54:29
  no
• 54:30
  question.
• 54:30
  There's
• 54:30
  nothing
• 54:31
  that
• 54:31
  could
• 54:31
  top
• 54:31
  that.
• 54:33
  But
• 54:33
  the
• 54:33
  fact
• 54:33
  that
• 54:33
  he's
• 54:34
  a
• 54:34
  two
• 54:34
  time
• 54:34
  World
• 54:34
  Series
• 54:34
  winner
• 54:36
  and
• 54:36
  he
• 54:36
  played
• 54:36
  very
• 54:37
  well
• 54:37
  in
• 54:37
  the
• 54:37
  1971
• 54:38
  World
• 54:38
  Series
• 54:38
  Series
• 54:39
  and
• 54:40
  he
• 54:40
  was
• 54:40
  at
• 54:40
  the
• 54:40
  tail
• 54:40
  end
• 54:40
  of
• 54:41
  his
• 54:41
  career,
• 54:41
  so
• 54:41
  was
• 54:41
  Gene
• 54:42
  Alley.
• 54:42
  So
• 54:43
  those
• 54:43
  two
• 54:43
  had
• 54:43
  been
• 54:43
  a
• 54:44
  double
• 54:44
  play
• 54:44
  combination
• 54:44
  for
• 54:45
  years.
• 54:46
  So
• 54:46
  it
• 54:46
  was
• 54:46
  kind
• 54:46
  of
• 54:47
  like
• 54:47
  the
• 54:47
  twilight
• 54:47
  of
• 54:47
  their
• 54:48
  career.
• 54:48
  And
• 54:48
  it
• 54:48
  was
• 54:48
  a
• 54:48
  good
• 54:49
  way
• 54:49
  to
• 54:49
  go
• 54:49
  out.
• 54:50
  But
• 54:51
  really
• 54:51
  nothing
• 54:51
  else
• 54:52
  stands
• 54:52
  out.
• 54:52
  But
• 54:52
  it
• 54:53
  was
• 54:53
  funny
• 54:53
  because
• 54:53
  the
• 54:53
  other
• 54:53
  day
• 54:53
  I
• 54:54
  was
• 54:54
  thinking
• 54:54
  about
• 54:54
  this
• 54:54
  interview
• 54:55
  we
• 54:55
  were
• 54:55
  doing
• 54:55
  and
• 54:56
  I'm
• 54:56
  thinking
• 54:57
  to
• 54:57
  myself,
• 54:58
  like
• 54:58
  you
• 54:58
  said,
• 54:58
  Mazeroski's
• 54:59
  home
• 54:59
  run
• 55:00
  is
• 55:00
  historic.
• 55:00
  Not
• 55:01
  just
• 55:01
  in
• 55:01
  Pittsburgh,
• 55:01
  but
• 55:02
  worldwide.
• 55:03
  Does
• 55:04
  it
• 55:04
  rival
• 55:04
  the
• 55:04
  Immaculate
• 55:05
  Reception?
• 55:05
  Which
• 55:06
  one's
• 55:06
  bigger?
• 55:07
  And
• 55:07
  I
• 55:07
  was
• 55:07
  saying
• 55:07
  to
• 55:08
  myself,
• 55:08
  God,
• 55:08
  that's
• 55:08
  tough.
• 55:09
  That's
• 55:10
  really
• 55:10
  tough.
• 55:10
  What
• 55:10
  is
• 55:11
  big?
• 55:11
  Pittsburgh?
• 55:14
  Well,
• 55:14
  I'll
• 55:15
  tell
• 55:15
  you,
• 55:15
  Mazeroski
• 55:16
  probably
• 55:16
  gets
• 55:16
  the
• 55:17
  edge
• 55:17
  because
• 55:17
  he
• 55:17
  won
• 55:17
  a
• 55:17
  championship.
• 55:18
  Franco's
• 55:19
  play
• 55:19
  only
• 55:19
  got
• 55:19
  them
• 55:20
  to
• 55:20
  advance
• 55:21
  in
• 55:21
  the
• 55:21
  playoffs
• 55:22
  and
• 55:22
  they
• 55:22
  eventually
• 55:23
  lost
• 55:23
  the
• 55:23
  next
• 55:23
  week
• 55:23
  to
• 55:24
  the
• 55:24
  undefeated
• 55:24
  Miami
• 55:25
  Dolphins.
• 55:25
  So.
• 55:26
  But
• 55:27
  it
• 55:27
  was
• 55:27
  the
• 55:27
  first
• 55:27
  time
• 55:27
  the
• 55:27
  Steelers
• 55:28
  had
• 55:28
  ever
• 55:28
  been
• 55:28
  in
• 55:28
  the
• 55:28
  playoffs.
• 55:29
  So
• 55:30
  they
• 55:30
  won
• 55:30
  their
• 55:30
  very
• 55:30
  first
• 55:30
  playoff
• 55:31
  game
• 55:31
  on
• 55:31
  a
• 55:31
  crazy
• 55:32
  play
• 55:32
  that
• 55:32
  the
• 55:34
  Oakland,
• 55:34
  Los
• 55:34
  Angeles,
• 55:35
  Las
• 55:35
  Vegas
• 55:36
  Raiders
• 55:36
  to
• 55:36
  this
• 55:36
  day
• 55:36
  will
• 55:37
  tell
• 55:37
  you.
• 55:37
  That
• 55:37
  was
• 55:37
  an
• 55:38
  elite
• 55:38
  play.
• 55:40
  And
• 55:41
  Frankie
• 55:41
  Fuqua,
• 55:42
  who
• 55:42
  apparently
• 55:43
  they
• 55:43
  say
• 55:43
  the
• 55:44
  ball
• 55:44
  hit
• 55:44
  off
• 55:44
  of
• 55:45
  to
• 55:45
  this
• 55:46
  day
• 55:46
  will
• 55:46
  not
• 55:46
  reveal
• 55:47
  what
• 55:47
  happened.
• 55:48
  He
• 55:48
  said
• 55:48
  he's
• 55:48
  taking
• 55:49
  it
• 55:49
  to
• 55:49
  his
• 55:49
  grave,
• 55:51
  but
• 55:51
  he'll
• 55:51
  always
• 55:51
  joke
• 55:52
  because
• 55:52
  he'll
• 55:52
  go
• 55:52
  and
• 55:53
  give
• 55:53
  him
• 55:53
  public
• 55:53
  speeches
• 55:54
  and
• 55:54
  he'll
• 55:54
  say,
• 55:54
  well,
• 55:54
  I'm
• 55:54
  going
• 55:54
  to
• 55:55
  tell
• 55:55
  you
• 55:55
  who
• 55:55
  that
• 55:56
  ball
• 55:56
  really
• 55:56
  deflected
• 55:57
  off
• 55:57
  of
• 55:57
  the
• 55:57
  end
• 55:57
  of
• 55:57
  the
• 55:57
  speech.
• 55:58
  And
• 55:58
  he
• 55:58
  gets
• 55:59
  to
• 55:59
  the
• 55:59
  end
• 55:59
  of
• 55:59
  the
• 55:59
  speech
• 55:59
  and
• 55:59
  says,
• 55:59
  I
• 56:00
  was
• 56:00
  only
• 56:00
  kidding.
• 56:01
  So
• 56:02
  we
• 56:02
  don't
• 56:02
  know.
• 56:05
  But
• 56:05
  Maz's
• 56:06
  home
• 56:06
  run
• 56:07
  is
• 56:07
  probably
• 56:07
  the
• 56:07
  greatest
• 56:08
  singular
• 56:09
  moment
• 56:09
  in
• 56:09
  the
• 56:10
  history
• 56:10
  of
• 56:10
  Pittsburgh
• 56:11
  sports.
• 56:12
  Oh,
• 56:12
  yeah,
• 56:13
  it
• 56:13
  is.
• 56:14
  I
• 56:14
  mean,
• 56:14
  Franco's
• 56:15
  right
• 56:15
  up
• 56:15
  there.
• 56:15
  But
• 56:16
  if
• 56:16
  he.
• 56:17
  If
• 56:17
  that
• 56:17
  would
• 56:17
  have
• 56:17
  been
• 56:17
  for
• 56:17
  a
• 56:18
  championship,
• 56:18
  then
• 56:19
  it
• 56:19
  would
• 56:19
  have
• 56:19
  definitely,
• 56:19
  probably
• 56:20
  topped
• 56:20
  it
• 56:21
  or
• 56:21
  been
• 56:21
  equal
• 56:21
  to
• 56:21
  it.
• 56:21
  But
• 56:22
  it
• 56:22
  was
• 56:22
  only
• 56:22
  a
• 56:22
  playoff
• 56:22
  game
• 56:23
  that
• 56:23
  just
• 56:23
  got
• 56:23
  them
• 56:24
  one
• 56:24
  round
• 56:24
  further,
• 56:25
  which
• 56:25
  they
• 56:25
  eventually
• 56:26
  lost
• 56:26
  in
• 56:26
  the
• 56:26
  next
• 56:26
  round
• 56:27
  anyway.
• 56:28
  And
• 56:28
  here's
• 56:29
  an
• 56:29
  interesting
• 56:29
  thing,
• 56:29
  Warren,
• 56:30
  is
• 56:30
  that
• 56:31
  that
• 56:31
  Immaculate
• 56:31
  Reception,
• 56:32
  I
• 56:32
  know
• 56:32
  we're
• 56:32
  talking
• 56:32
  about
• 56:32
  baseball
• 56:33
  and
• 56:33
  Mazarovsky,
• 56:33
  but
• 56:34
  that
• 56:34
  Immaculate
• 56:34
  Reception,
• 56:35
  they
• 56:35
  had
• 56:35
  a
• 56:35
  rule
• 56:36
  back
• 56:36
  then,
• 56:36
  you
• 56:36
  may
• 56:36
  recall
• 56:37
  it,
• 56:37
  that
• 56:37
  if
• 56:37
  your
• 56:38
  game
• 56:38
  did
• 56:38
  not
• 56:38
  sell
• 56:38
  out
• 56:39
  in
• 56:39
  your
• 56:39
  own
• 56:39
  city,
• 56:39
  you
• 56:40
  were
• 56:40
  not
• 56:40
  allowed
• 56:40
  to
• 56:40
  televise.
• 56:41
  Yeah.
• 56:42
  So
• 56:42
  the
• 56:42
  Oakland
• 56:43
  Raider
• 56:43
  game
• 56:43
  with
• 56:44
  Pittsburgh
• 56:44
  in
• 56:45
  72
• 56:45
  was
• 56:45
  not
• 56:46
  televised.
• 56:47
  So
• 56:47
  as
• 56:47
  a
• 56:47
  12
• 56:47
  year
• 56:48
  old,
• 56:48
  I
• 56:48
  was
• 56:48
  standing
• 56:48
  in
• 56:48
  my
• 56:49
  driveway
• 56:49
  in
• 56:49
  the
• 56:49
  winter
• 56:49
  listening
• 56:50
  to
• 56:50
  it
• 56:50
  on
• 56:50
  the
• 56:50
  radio.
• 56:51
  That's
• 56:51
  how
• 56:51
  I
• 56:51
  heard
• 56:52
  them.
• 56:52
  Immaculate
• 56:53
  Reception
• 56:54
  was
• 56:54
  not
• 56:54
  able
• 56:54
  to
• 56:54
  see
• 56:55
  it,
• 56:55
  but
• 56:56
  my
• 56:56
  father
• 56:56
  was
• 56:56
  at
• 56:56
  the
• 56:57
  game.
• 56:58
  He
• 56:58
  was
• 56:58
  at
• 56:58
  the
• 56:58
  game.
• 56:59
  And
• 56:59
  Art
• 57:00
  Rooney
• 57:00
  had
• 57:00
  left
• 57:00
  the
• 57:00
  field
• 57:01
  because
• 57:01
  he
• 57:01
  thought
• 57:02
  the
• 57:02
  game
• 57:02
  was
• 57:02
  over.
• 57:02
  He
• 57:02
  was
• 57:03
  going
• 57:03
  in
• 57:03
  the
• 57:03
  locker
• 57:03
  room
• 57:03
  to
• 57:03
  congratulate
• 57:04
  his
• 57:04
  players.
• 57:05
  He
• 57:05
  never
• 57:06
  saw
• 57:06
  the
• 57:06
  play
• 57:06
  either.
• 57:07
  And
• 57:07
  Bradshaw
• 57:07
  didn't
• 57:08
  see
• 57:08
  because
• 57:08
  he
• 57:08
  was
• 57:08
  on
• 57:08
  his
• 57:08
  back.
• 57:10
  But
• 57:10
  my
• 57:11
  father
• 57:11
  said
• 57:11
  somebody
• 57:11
  in
• 57:12
  front
• 57:12
  of
• 57:12
  him
• 57:12
  was
• 57:12
  eating
• 57:13
  food
• 57:13
  and
• 57:13
  got
• 57:13
  so
• 57:14
  excited
• 57:14
  he
• 57:14
  threw
• 57:14
  up
• 57:14
  in
• 57:14
  the
• 57:14
  air
• 57:15
  and
• 57:15
  fell
• 57:15
  all
• 57:15
  over
• 57:16
  my
• 57:16
  father's
• 57:16
  lap
• 57:16
  and
• 57:16
  everything.
• 57:17
  Everybody
• 57:17
  was
• 57:17
  going
• 57:17
  crazy.
• 57:20
  Wow.
• 57:20
  Well,
• 57:21
  the
• 57:21
  other
• 57:21
  thing,
• 57:21
  at
• 57:22
  the
• 57:22
  time
• 57:23
  when
• 57:23
  Mazeroski
• 57:24
  hit
• 57:24
  that
• 57:24
  home
• 57:24
  run,
• 57:25
  Pittsburgh
• 57:25
  was
• 57:25
  a
• 57:25
  baseball
• 57:26
  town.
• 57:27
  Yes,
• 57:28
  absolutely.
• 57:28
  Baseball
• 57:29
  town
• 57:29
  in
• 57:29
  1960.
• 57:30
  Absolutely.
• 57:31
  So,
• 57:32
  hey,
• 57:32
  Harv,
• 57:32
  I
• 57:33
  want
• 57:33
  to
• 57:33
  thank
• 57:33
  you
• 57:33
  for
• 57:33
  taking
• 57:34
  some
• 57:34
  time
• 57:34
  out
• 57:34
  of
• 57:35
  your
• 57:35
  evening
• 57:35
  and
• 57:35
  joining
• 57:36
  me
• 57:36
  on
• 57:36
  Sports
• 57:36
  Forgotten
• 57:37
  Heroes.
• 57:37
  I
• 57:38
  love
• 57:38
  going
• 57:38
  down
• 57:38
  memory
• 57:39
  lane.
• 57:39
  And
• 57:40
  Bill
• 57:40
  Mazeroski
• 57:41
  is
• 57:41
  certainly.
• 57:43
  He
• 57:43
  fits
• 57:43
  the
• 57:44
  profile
• 57:45
  of
• 57:45
  Sports
• 57:45
  Forgotten
• 57:46
  heroes,
• 57:47
  Guys
• 57:47
  who
• 57:48
  had
• 57:48
  great
• 57:48
  careers
• 57:49
  but
• 57:49
  might
• 57:49
  have
• 57:50
  been
• 57:50
  overshadowed
• 57:51
  by
• 57:51
  somebody
• 57:52
  just
• 57:53
  a
• 57:53
  little
• 57:53
  bit
• 57:53
  greater
• 57:54
  or
• 57:54
  had
• 57:54
  one
• 57:55
  Great
• 57:55
  game.
• 57:55
  One
• 57:56
  gate.
• 57:57
  Great
• 57:58
  play.
• 57:58
  And
• 57:59
  that
• 57:59
  is
• 58:00
  Bill
• 58:00
  Mazeroski,
• 58:01
  and
• 58:01
  he
• 58:02
  is
• 58:02
  a
• 58:02
  Hall
• 58:02
  of
• 58:02
  Famer.
• 58:03
  Harv,
• 58:03
  thanks
• 58:04
  again
• 58:04
  for
• 58:04
  joining
• 58:04
  me
• 58:05
  on
• 58:05
  Sports
• 58:05
  Forgotten.
• 58:07
  I
• 58:08
  appreciate
• 58:08
  you
• 58:08
  having
• 58:08
  me,
• 58:08
  Warren.
• 58:09
  It
• 58:09
  was
• 58:09
  a
• 58:09
  lot
• 58:09
  of
• 58:09
  fun
• 58:10
  then.
• 58:10
  I'm
• 58:10
  a
• 58:10
  history
• 58:11
  buff,
• 58:11
  so
• 58:12
  it
• 58:12
  was
• 58:12
  a
• 58:12
  lot
• 58:12
  of
• 58:12
  fun.
• 58:13
  Going
• 58:13
  down
• 58:13
  history.
• 58:14
  Down
• 58:14
  history
• 58:15
  lane
• 58:15
  for
• 58:15
  sure.
• 58:16
  Awesome.
• 58:17
  We'll
• 58:17
  have
• 58:17
  to
• 58:17
  do
• 58:17
  it
• 58:17
  again.
• 58:19
  Absolutely.
• 58:19
  I'm
• 58:19
  ready
• 58:20
  whenever
• 58:20
  you
• 58:20
  are.
• 58:21
  For
• 58:21
  his
• 58:22
  career,
• 58:22
  Mazeroski
• 58:23
  hit.260
• 58:25
  with
• 58:25
  138
• 58:26
  home
• 58:27
  runs
• 58:27
  and
• 58:28
  853
• 58:29
  RBI.
• 58:31
  In
• 58:31
  the
• 58:31
  1960
• 58:32
  World
• 58:33
  Series,
• 58:33
  he
• 58:33
  hit.320
• 58:34
  with
• 58:34
  two
• 58:35
  home
• 58:35
  runs
• 58:35
  and
• 58:36
  five
• 58:36
  RBI.
• 58:37
  He
• 58:37
  also
• 58:38
  appeared
• 58:38
  in
• 58:38
  one
• 58:39
  playoff
• 58:39
  game
• 58:39
  for
• 58:40
  the
• 58:40
  Pirates
• 58:40
  in
• 58:40
  1970,
• 58:42
  played
• 58:42
  in
• 58:42
  two
• 58:43
  games
• 58:43
  in
• 58:43
  Pittsburgh's
• 58:44
  run
• 58:44
  to
• 58:45
  the
• 58:45
  1971
• 58:46
  World
• 58:46
  Series
• 58:47
  and
• 58:48
  another
• 58:49
  two
• 58:49
  in
• 58:49
  the
• 58:49
  1972
• 58:51
  playoffs.
• 58:52
  But
• 58:52
  it
• 58:52
  was
• 58:53
  his
• 58:53
  glove
• 58:53
  where
• 58:54
  he
• 58:54
  made
• 58:54
  a
• 58:54
  huge
• 58:55
  difference.
• 58:56
  In
• 58:56
  fact,
• 58:56
  in
• 58:57
  the
• 58:57
  postseason,
• 58:58
  he
• 58:58
  had
• 58:58
  a
• 58:59
  perfect
• 58:59
  fielding
• 59:00
  percentage,
• 59:01
  not
• 59:01
  making
• 59:02
  an
• 59:02
  error
• 59:03
  in
• 59:03
  44
• 59:04
  chances.
• 59:06
  Thanks
• 59:06
  again
• 59:07
  to
• 59:07
  my
• 59:07
  guest
• 59:07
  today,
• 59:08
  Harv
• 59:08
  Aronson.
• 59:09
  And
• 59:09
  thanks
• 59:10
  all
• 59:10
  of
• 59:10
  you,
• 59:10
  for
• 59:10
  tuning
• 59:11
  in.
• 59:11
  And
• 59:11
  I'll
• 59:12
  see
• 59:12
  you
• 59:12
  next
• 59:12
  time
• 59:13
  on
• 59:13
  Sports
• 59:14
  Forgotten.
• 59:14
  Heroes.