Latest / Investor Exchange / Why First REIT’s FY2025 'Decline' Is A Strategic Rebirth
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- 0:02Time for another Investor Exchange Podcast. Here are your hosts,
- 0:06Matt and Sally. Welcome back to the Deep Dive.
- 0:10You know, there is a specific moment I think every investor dreads. Oh, yeah.
- 0:14You open your portfolio app, maybe you're checking it over your morning coffee,
- 0:17and the screen is just red.
- 0:20The market is volatile. Your growth stocks are getting hammered.
- 0:23And your media instinct is flight. You think, I just want safety.
- 0:27Give me something boring. Give me something people literally cannot live without.
- 0:31The classic flight to quality. Yeah. When the economy gets shaky or inflation
- 0:36spikes, you stop buying luxury handbags. You might skip the vacation,
- 0:40but you definitely don't stop going to the doctor.
- 0:42And that is the logic that leads so many people to health care real estate.
- 0:46It's supposed to be the ultimate defensive play.
- 0:48Hospitals, nursing homes, these aren't trends. They're necessities.
- 0:52Right. So naturally, you look at a player like First REIT. They're the pioneers here.
- 0:57Singapore's first health care REIT. They've got this massive portfolio of 31
- 1:01properties across Indonesia, Singapore and Japan.
- 1:03It is a significant footprint. And on paper, it ticks all those safety boxes.
- 1:08You have hospitals like Salome in Indonesia.
- 1:11You have nursing homes in Japan. It feels like a fortress against economic downturns.
- 1:16But here's the problem, and it's why we are doing this deep dive today.
- 1:20We've got the latest financial documents in front of us. The full year results
- 1:24for the year ended December 31st, 2025.
- 1:28Yep, released on February 5th, 2026. And when you look at the headline numbers,
- 1:32well, the Fortress looks like it's taking some serious damage.
- 1:36It's definitely not the sea of green investors we're hoping for.
- 1:39The headline numbers suggest a business in retreat.
- 1:42So that is our mission. We need to figure out if this is a case of a business
- 1:46that is actually deteriorating like, are the hospitals empty? Yeah.
- 1:50Or if something else is masking the true performance.
- 1:53Because if I'm buying safety, I don't want to see my income drop.
- 1:56And that is the crux of it.
- 1:58In real estate investment trusts or REITs, the headline number often hides the real story.
- 2:03We need to peel back the layers to see if the engine is actually broken or if
- 2:07it's just facing some headwinds.
- 2:09Let's start with the number that actually pays the bills for the listener.
- 2:12The distribution per unit, or DPU. If I hold this stock, this is my dividend.
- 2:17This is the cash that hits my account. The main event.
- 2:19For FY 2025, first REIT declared a DPU of 2.17 Singapore cents. Right, 2.17 cents.
- 2:26Now, to put that in perspective, in FY 2024, that payout was 2.36 cents. That is an 8.1% drop.
- 2:34I don't care how defensive the asset class is. If my paycheck gets cut by 8%,
- 2:38I'm not feeling very safe. I'm feeling a little poorer.
- 2:41It's a completely valid reaction. An 8% cut is substantial, especially for retirees
- 2:46or income investors who rely on that cash flow to pay their own bills.
- 2:50When you see a drop like that, your first assumption is usually that something
- 2:53is wrong operationally.
- 2:55Did tenants leave? Did they stop paying rent? That was my first thought.
- 2:58So I went straight to the top line. The revenue, rental and other income came in at $100.5 million.
- 3:04That is down 1.6% from the previous year.
- 3:07And net property income, which is basically what's left after you pay the building
- 3:11expenses, was $97.3 million, down 1.1 percent.
- 3:16So the business is bringing in less money than it did a year ago.
- 3:19It certainly looks like a contraction if you stop reading there.
- 3:21It looks like a slow bleed.
- 3:23But this is where we have to introduce the villain of this particular story.
- 3:27It's not the doctors, it's not the patients, and it's not the hospital operators.
- 3:31It's the invisible thief. The invisible thief. Foreign exchange. 4X.
- 3:36This is the single biggest factor distorting the picture for first REIT in 2025.
- 3:41Okay, let's break this down. I think people gloss over currency risk until it
- 3:45hits their bank account.
- 3:47First REIT is listed in Singapore. I buy the stock in Singapore dollars.
- 3:51I want my dividends in Singapore dollars. Correct. But think about where the
- 3:54actual cash is being generated.
- 3:56The hospitals are in Indonesia. The nursing homes are in Japan.
- 3:59A patient in Jakarta pays their hospital bill in rupiah. Right.
- 4:04A resident in a Japanese nursing home pays in yen.
- 4:07First REIT collects that rent in those local currencies. And 2025 was...
- 4:12Let's just say unkind to those currencies. That is putting it mildly.
- 4:16The Indonesian rupiah and the Japanese yen both weakened significantly against
- 4:20the Singapore dollar in 2025.
- 4:23So imagine you are the manager of First Reet.
- 4:26You collect a massive pile of rupiah from your tenants. It's actually a bigger
- 4:29pile of rupiah than you collected last year.
- 4:31But when you go to the bank to convert that into Singapore dollars to pay your
- 4:36investors, you get back significantly less. It's like working a job in Tokyo
- 4:41and getting a raise in yen.
- 4:43You feel great, you're buying more sushi in Tokyo.
- 4:46But you're trying to pay a mortgage back in Singapore. When you send the money
- 4:49home, the exchange rate eats your raise and then some.
- 4:52That is the perfect analogy. And we have proof of this in the documents.
- 4:56This is the key insight that separates the headline readers from the deep divers.
- 5:01If you strip away the currency conversion and look at the business and local
- 5:04currency terms, the picture completely flips.
- 5:07I saw that in the presentation slides and it really surprised me.
- 5:10In Indonesia, the rental income actually rose by 5.1% in local currency. Exactly.
- 5:155.1% growth. That is healthy. That is a business that is expanding. Right.
- 5:20And even the Singapore properties, which obviously don't have currency risk,
- 5:24grew by 2.0%. Japan was stable.
- 5:28So operationally, the tenants are paying more rent. The business is growing.
- 5:32A currency exchange is just masking it entirely.
- 5:35Completely. That distinction matters so much because currency cycles eventually
- 5:40turn. If the underlying business was shrinking, if hospitals were closing or
- 5:45demanding rent cuts, that's a structural problem.
- 5:48That's a sell immediately signal. For sure.
- 5:50But this feels more like a translation problem.
- 5:53Precisely. And that growth in Indonesia isn't accidental. It's built into the contracts.
- 5:57First, REIT has structured their leases with base rent escalation clauses.
- 6:01It's often tied to inflation or the performance of the hospital.
- 6:05Oh, OK. So as long as the hospitals are busy and generating revenue,
- 6:08the rent ticked up. They are insulated from the operational risk of the hospital,
- 6:12but they are fully exposed to the currency risk of the country.
- 6:15So the engine's running fine, but the fuel line has a leak called Forex.
- 6:19Now, there was another reason for the revenue drop that stood out to me.
- 6:22It wasn't just currency. There
- 6:23was a divestment. They sold the Imperial Ariaduda Hotel and Country Club.
- 6:28Yes. And this is interesting because it signals a shift in strategy.
- 6:31I honestly forgot they even owned a hotel.
- 6:34It feels out of place for a health care REIT. Like, here's a hospital.
- 6:37Here's a nursing home. and,
- 6:39Here's a country club. It was a legacy asset, a bit of an outlier from the early days.
- 6:43They sold it to align the portfolio purely with health care hospitals and nursing homes.
- 6:48It's about becoming a pure play. I see. But here is the short-term pain.
- 6:52Because they sold it during the year, they stopped collecting rent from it.
- 6:56Right. You sell the cow, you stop getting the milk. Exactly.
- 6:59So when you compare the total revenue of 2025 against 2024, 2025 looks lower,
- 7:05partly because you're missing those months of hotel income.
- 7:08But strategically, most analysts would argue this is a smart move. Why is that?
- 7:13You trade a non-core cyclical asset like a hotel, which can be volatile for
- 7:18cash, which you can then use to pay down debt or reinvest in actual hospitals.
- 7:22It purifies the portfolio, makes it easier to understand.
- 7:27Speaking of the portfolio, let's talk about the buildings themselves.
- 7:30Because in commercial real estate, vacancy is the killer.
- 7:34It really is. If you own an office tower right now, you're probably sweating
- 7:38about tenants downsizing.
- 7:40How does 1st REIT look on occupancy? This is where the defensive thesis really
- 7:44shines. You literally cannot get better than this.
- 7:47The committed occupancy is 100%. Not a single empty room.
- 7:51Not one. And that's the nature of these master leases.
- 7:54They aren't leasing individual hospital beds to patients. They are leasing the
- 7:58entire building to a master operator, like Solomum Hospitals.
- 8:02The operator pays the rent regardless of whether the hospital is 50% full or
- 8:0690% full. That transfers the operational risk away from the REIT and onto the operator.
- 8:11If the hospital has a slow month, first REIT still gets paid. Exactly.
- 8:15And the other number that jumps off the page is the whale, the weighted average
- 8:19lease expiry. Right. It stands at 10 years. 10 years.
- 8:22I mean, in the retail mall space, if you get a tenant to sign for three years,
- 8:26you're celebrating. In office, maybe five.
- 8:29Ten years is an eternity in real estate. It means First Street has locked in
- 8:35its tenants for a full decade.
- 8:36That provides incredible visibility on cash flow.
- 8:40You know exactly who is paying the rent in 2030. It's comforting.
- 8:44A trendy coffee shop might go bust in six months. A hospital isn't going to
- 8:48pack up its MRI machines and move across the street because the rent went up slightly.
- 8:51Healthcare infrastructure is incredibly sticky.
- 8:54The cost of moving is prohibitive. The licensing is complex.
- 8:58Once a hospital is established, it tends to stay there. That stability is what you are buying here.
- 9:03You are buying the infrastructure that keeps the society running.
- 9:07Okay, so we have a stable, full portfolio. We have operational growth masked by currency pain.
- 9:12But now I want to look at the balance sheet because, frankly,
- 9:14this is where I got a little nervous.
- 9:15I turned to the liability section and things look tighter.
- 9:19The liability side is definitely where the stress points are.
- 9:21Yeah. I was scanning the liabilities and two things hit me.
- 9:24First, the leverage. The aggregate leverage ratio climbed to 32.1%. It was 39.6% last year.
- 9:31It is creeping up. And in this high interest environment, investors watch that number like a hawk.
- 9:37In the REIT world, crossing 40% usually sets off a few alarm bells, doesn't it?
- 9:42It does. The regulatory limit in Singapore is technically higher up to 45 percent
- 9:47or even 50 percent, depending on interest coverage.
- 9:49But investors generally like to see a buffer. When you're at 42.1 percent,
- 9:54you don't have much headroom.
- 9:55Meaning if they find a great new hospital to buy tomorrow, they can't just go
- 10:00to the bank and borrow the money easily. They are maxing out the credit card. Exactly.
- 10:04They are tapped out on cheap debt. If they want to grow, they might have to
- 10:08ask investors for cash and equity fundraiser, which dilutes existing shareholders.
- 10:13But it's important to understand why the leverage went up. Did they go on a spending spree? No.
- 10:18Let me guess. The invisible thief again. You got it. Leverage is a simple ratio.
- 10:22Total debt divided by total assets.
- 10:24We know the currency weakness hammered the value of their assets.
- 10:27The portfolio valuation dropped from S1.12 billion dollars to S1.02 billion
- 10:33dollars. So the denominator shrank.
- 10:36The buildings are worth less than Singapore dollars because the yen and rupiah
- 10:39crashed. So even if the debt amount stayed exactly the same,
- 10:42the leverage ratio goes up.
- 10:44It's a math problem caused by currency, not a spending problem.
- 10:47Okay, I can forgive the math problem, but I can't ignore the liquidity issue.
- 10:51I saw a line item that looked terrifying.
- 10:54Net current liabilities of S213 million dollars.
- 10:58Ah, the wall of debt. Basically, this means they owe S213 million dollars more
- 11:04in the next 12 months than they have cash on hand.
- 11:07If this were my personal bank account, I'd be declaring bankruptcy.
- 11:10It looks scary, but it's a very specific accounting phenomenon.
- 11:14First REIT has a massive loan, the social term loan A, roughly S246 million dollars.
- 11:20It matures in May 2026. Which is just over a year away. Right.
- 11:24And in accounting rules, once a loan is due within one year or close to it,
- 11:28it moves from long-term liabilities to current liabilities.
- 11:31It sits there like a ticking time bomb on the balance sheet.
- 11:34So do they have a quarter of a billion dollars in the bank to pay it off?
- 11:37No. And they aren't supposed to.
- 11:39No REIT keeps that kind of cash sitting around. It would be a drag on returns.
- 11:43The plan isn't to pay it off with cash. The plan is to refinance it.
- 11:47Rolling over the debt. Yep, the standard play.
- 11:49They will take out a new loan to pay off the old one.
- 11:52The presentation slides are very explicit about this.
- 11:55They state they are currently in discussions with lenders to extend and refinance this facility.
- 12:02Discussions is a polite corporate word. But we have to be real.
- 12:06What if those discussions go south?
- 12:09What if the banks say no? Or what if the interest rates on the new loan are sky high?
- 12:14That is the single biggest risk factor for the next 12 months.
- 12:18If credit markets freeze, first REIT is in a tight spot.
- 12:22However, the banks look at one key metric, the interest coverage ratio.
- 12:26For first REIT, that is 3.7 times. Meaning their income covers their interest
- 12:30payments almost four times over. Correct.
- 12:32That is a very healthy number. It tells the bank, we have plenty of cash flow
- 12:36to service the debt. It makes them a good candidate for refinancing.
- 12:39It's like having a high credit score and a steady job when you apply for a mortgage.
- 12:43Plus, they aren't exactly alone in this, are they? We need to talk about who
- 12:45is standing behind them.
- 12:47They have some big brothers. The sponsors. This is crucial context.
- 12:51First REIT is sponsored by OUE Limited and OUE Healthcare.
- 12:55OUE owns 60% of the manager, and OUE Healthcare owns 40%. Having a sponsor like
- 13:01OUE is like having a wealthy parent.
- 13:04It changes the conversation with the bank entirely.
- 13:07When you walk into a negotiation backed by a major conglomerate like OUB,
- 13:11lenders have a lot more confidence.
- 13:14It implies that if things really hit the fan, the sponsor has the resources
- 13:18and the reputation to step in.
- 13:20They aren't going to let their flagship healthcare REIT fail easily.
- 13:23So we have the wall of debt, but we have a ladder to climb over it.
- 13:28Now, sticking with the future, there was a phrase in the press release that
- 13:31sounded incredibly vague, but my gut tells me it's important. Which one?
- 13:35Strategic review. Ah, yes. A strategic review initiated by the manager.
- 13:39Usually, companies don't announce a strategic review when things are going perfectly.
- 13:44If everything is great, you just keep going. What does this actually signal?
- 13:48You are right to be suspicious.
- 13:50A formal strategic review is often code for, we know the share price is too
- 13:54low, we know the market isn't valuing us correctly, and we are willing to do
- 13:58something drastic to fix it.
- 14:00The document says the scope includes considering all options.
- 14:04That sounds wide. All options is the corporate catch-all.
- 14:08It could mean joint ventures partnering with someone to buy assets.
- 14:12It could mean bringing in a new strategic partner to inject capital.
- 14:16It could mean selling off more assets to pay down that debt we just talked about.
- 14:21Could it mean selling the whole company?
- 14:23It could. Privatization is absolutely on the table.
- 14:26If the public market keeps valuing the stock way below the value of properties.
- 14:32Mostly because of this currency noise, the sponsor might just say,
- 14:35fine, we'll buy it back and take it private.
- 14:37That adds a weird layer of intrigue to this investment. You're buying it for
- 14:40the dividend yield, but you're also holding a lottery ticket for whatever this
- 14:43strategic review comes up with. That's the mystery box element.
- 14:47Management is clearly not satisfied with the status quo. They see the unit price dropping.
- 14:51They see the currency headwinds. And they are proactively looking for a way to unlock value.
- 14:57It suggests the next 12 months could be transformative. So let's try to synthesize
- 15:02all of this for the listener. We've covered a lot of ground.
- 15:04We have the falling DPU, the currency hammering the top line,
- 15:07the solid occupancy, and this looming debt refinancing.
- 15:11If you had to paint the bull case, the optimist's view, what is it?
- 15:16The bull case is that you are buying high-quality essential infrastructure at a discount.
- 15:21You have 100% occupancy and 10-year leases.
- 15:24The underlying business in Indonesia is growing. Rents are going up 5% a year.
- 15:29Okay. You are essentially getting paid to wait. Paid to wait for what?
- 15:33For the currency cycle to turn. The rupio won't fall forever.
- 15:35Economies are cyclical. When
- 15:37it stabilizes or strengthens, that invisible thief becomes a tailwind.
- 15:41Suddenly, your dividends get a boost without the company doing anything extra.
- 15:45Plus, you have the potential upside from the strategic review.
- 15:48If they unlock value, you win. And the bear case.
- 15:51Why should I stay away? The bear case is that the currency risk is structural.
- 15:55If the rupiah keeps sliding year after year, your DPU keeps sliding,
- 15:59no matter how full the hospitals are.
- 16:01You're fighting a macro tide you can't control.
- 16:04And the bear worries about that debt in 2026.
- 16:07If refinancing is expensive, interest costs go up and your dividend takes another hit.
- 16:13It feels like a battle between the stability of the physical assets, the hospitals.
- 16:19And the volatility of the financial layer, the currency in debt.
- 16:23That is the perfect summary.
- 16:24The real assets are rock solid. You can go touch the walls of the hospital. It's full of patients.
- 16:29But the financial structure wrapped around them, the foreign exchange,
- 16:32the loans, is where the volatility lives.
- 16:35So for the investor, it really comes down to patience and belief in the demographic
- 16:38story. It does. This isn't a get-rich-quick tech stock. It's a yield play.
- 16:42It's for the investor who believes in the long-term need for health care in
- 16:46aging populations, more medical services, and is willing to stomach the currency
- 16:51bumps to get that steady rental income.
- 16:53And trusting that management can navigate that 2026 debt wall without diluting everyone.
- 17:00That is the critical test. Navigating that refinancing is the report card for
- 17:05the management team this year. We will know a lot more in a few months.
- 17:08So here's a final provocative thought for you to chew on. We talked about that strategic review.
- 17:14If First REIT decides that the public markets just aren't appreciating their
- 17:18value you because of this currency noise.
- 17:20Could we see them disappear entirely? It's a distinct possibility.
- 17:24Think about it. If you're OUE, the sponsor, and you know these hospitals are
- 17:29cash cows, but the market is pricing them like distressed assets,
- 17:33why let the public hold them?
- 17:34Exactly. If the gap between price and value gets too wide, the most logical
- 17:39move is often to take the ball and go home.
- 17:42Privatization allows them to operate without the quarter-by-quarter scrutiny of the public market.
- 17:46Something to keep in mind. If you hold the stock, You might wake up one morning
- 17:50to a privatization offer.
- 17:52We'll have to wait and see what the strategic review produces.
- 17:54It is going to be a very interesting year for First Reet. Thank you so much
- 17:58for breaking down those numbers.
- 18:00It's amazing how much clearer things get when you stop panicking at the red
- 18:04arrows and actually read the footnotes.
- 18:06Always read the footnotes. That's where the real story is.
- 18:08And thank you to our listeners for joining us on this deep dive.
- 18:11We hope this helped clarify the picture on First Reet. Until next time.
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- 18:34See you on the next Deep Dive.