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Ep 1120 | Kamala’s Komeback! Failed Presidential Candidate Launches Image Rehabilitation | Guests: Jason Buttrill & Steve Baker · Predictable with Stu Burguiere

• 0:01
  Stu does America.
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  Welcome to the program.
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  Jason Buttrell,
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  Steve Baker gonna join us in a little bit,
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  but I wanted to start,
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  uh,
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  basically with this.
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  Nonsense with Kamala Harris.
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  We're going to do the Kamala Harris rehabilitation tour,
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  uh,
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  because that's what she's out there doing right now,
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  I guess,
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  maybe trying to line herself up for another run at something.
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  It's hard to know exactly what she's up to.
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  Maybe just trying to sell some books.
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  Harris stops biting her tongue in 107 days.
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  Her book about last year's campaign
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  against
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  Trump.
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  Here's the cover.
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  They really did a lot on this one.
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  They spent a lot of time on it.
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  Uh,
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  yeah,
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  actually they didn't at all.
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  It's just the text on the blue cover.
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  107 Days by
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  Kamala Harris,
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  and I will say.
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  Uh,
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  there's been enough buzz about this book,
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  not because,
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  uh,
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  that it's good or anything,
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  but there's been enough gossip
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  and her bad explanations that I kind of
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  wanted to read it a little bit.
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  Like,
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  I can't imagine myself actually sitting down
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  and reading the entire book,
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  but I did think,
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  uh,
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  maybe an audiobook.
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  And then I thought to myself,
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  actually she's probably reading it,
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  isn't she?
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  Like if there was a professional voice actor reading this book.
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  Maybe I'll go through it.
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  If it's her,
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  I just can't take it.
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  I can't,
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  I can't possibly take it.
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  By the way,
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  Simon and Schuster has produced this,
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  and
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  it says about the book for the first time with surprising and revealing results
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  or insights,
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  uh,
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  former President,
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  uh,
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  Kamala Harris tells the story of one of the wildest and most consequential
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  presidential campaigns in American history,
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  and then they give you this,
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  and this is italicized
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  to build the drama for the book.
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  Your Secret Service code name is Pioneer.
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  You were the first woman in history to
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  be elected Vice President of the United States.
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  On July 21,
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  2024,
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  your running mate Joe Biden announces that he will not be seeking re-election.
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  The presidential election will occur on November 5,
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  2024.
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  You have 107 days.
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  Like a horrible episode of 24.
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  Uh,
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  I,
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  you know,
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  we've been over
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  her terrible reasoning on some of this,
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  but I want to go through some of her arguments being made right now.
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  But first,
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  let me give you the reception she's getting around the media.
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  Here she is,
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  uh,
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  waddling out on The View.
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  Talk about you
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  wherever you go now?
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  Well,
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  you know,
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  a lot of people are coming up to me crying actually crying,
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  yeah,
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  yeah,
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  crying,
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  and she's crying.
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  People are crying.
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  Well,
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  they're crying
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  because they're just so disappointed in all these dictators
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  that have been elected since it could have been Kamala.
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  Now Joe Biden is not happy with this book rollout.
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  I don't know if you know this.
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  Angry and disappointed,
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  Kamala Harris,
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  critical.
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  Of Joe Biden in a new book.
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  Joe's not happy with
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  with Kamala.
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  Kamala's not happy
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  with Joe.
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  Um,
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  now she was asked whether Joe Biden could have run for
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  president.
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  Of course he was running for president.
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  They told us that he was completely fine the entire time until they said,
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  oh,
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  obviously he's not fine,
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  and of course that's why we switched to Kamala.
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  Kamala's going to be fine.
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  Don't worry about it.
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  Trust us this time.
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  Here she is
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  talking about this period
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  with uh Good Morning America.
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  My concern about
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  him running for reelection
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  was completely separate
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  from my admiration
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  and knowledge about his capacity to serve as President of the United States,
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  which was.
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  Consistent
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  and never wavered.
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  Well,
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  when we sit here as we sit here today,
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  do you think he would have been up for
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  running the country for 4 more years?
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  Here's the distinction that I make.
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  It's and having had the experience myself,
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  it is one thing to have the capacity to govern.
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  It is another thing
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  to go through
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  an election
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  for President of the United States,
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  so you are an athlete,
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  you may appreciate this kind of metaphor.
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  Running for president of the United States is like being in a marathon
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  at a sprinter's pace
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  with people throwing tomatoes at you every step you take.
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  It is not for the lighthearted.
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  It takes an incredible amount of endurance
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  and stamina,
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  and
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  can you imagine doing it while you are also carrying literally the
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  weight of the world as being president of the United States?
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  So the distinction I make
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  is about capacity to be president
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  and what that
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  election
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  would require in that campaign,
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  especially running against Donald Trump.
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  Wait,
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  so she's saying it's harder to run for president than be president?
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  That's her
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  case?
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  That is a bizarre argument.
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  You're talking about managing
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  the world's nuclear weapons.
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  You're talking about
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  multiple conflicts going on at any given time.
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  By the way,
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  part of your responsibility as president of the United States
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  has to do with overseeing a country and hoping for
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  some civility through an election process.
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  I mean,
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  you're involved in that as president anyway,
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  even if you're not running,
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  you're still involved in it in some
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  tangential way.
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  What
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  Again,
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  she,
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  she doesn't think these things out,
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  I don't think very well before she gets in front
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  of the person.
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  I also,
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  so,
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  so running a campaign is like running a marathon at
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  a sprinter's pace while they're throwing tomatoes at you.
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  What's
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  being president like?
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  Uh,
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  uh,
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  a wonderful stroll through the park.
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  It seems like she's making the case,
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  very,
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  very strange.
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  Uh,
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  of course,
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  and I remember all,
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  probably,
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  there's a bunch of moments
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  over my life that I will remember doing this show.
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  I,
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  you know,
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  I remember,
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  um,
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  you know,
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  uh,
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  the,
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  the moment where the Obamacare decision came out while we were live on the air.
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  I remember,
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  of course,
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  some of the stuff around 9/11.
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  I was on the air one day when a plane crashed into a building in Florida,
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  uh,
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  you know,
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  right,
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  it was right after we got off the air here
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  where the Charlie Kirk,
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  uh,
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  situation.
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  There's a bunch of moments you'll remember.
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  One of the moments I will remember from politics,
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  probably my entire life
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  was
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  watching
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  in real time as
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  Kamala Harris goes on The View
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  and they ask her the question,
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  Hey,
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  like what would you do differently
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  than President Biden?
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  And I saw her answer and immediately knew.
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  This was gonna be the biggest thing in the campaign.
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  It was like,
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  oh my God,
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  was that really her answer in this moment?
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  It was.
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  She's now saying,
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  what if I could remix and rehash and redo
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  that moment.
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  Here she is talking about it.
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  I should have answered that question better for a number of reasons.
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  Part of
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  the problem is I really did not fully embrace the reality.
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  Of how people felt.
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  And
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  I
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  Should have.
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  I
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  I,
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  I felt,
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  without being defensive,
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  I felt
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  that to answer the question would be
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  to require that I criticize.
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  The president,
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  yes,
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  Joe Biden,
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  yes,
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  it would have,
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  it would have.
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  I wasn't running against Joe Biden.
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  Doesn't matter.
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  I should have
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  understood where people are and I should have dealt with that differently,
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  which means
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  deal with
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  that,
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  you know,
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  and I also thought,
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  by the way,
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  the differences were so obvious,
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  so I also didn't understand that,
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  but I should have articulated it,
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  right?
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  We are of a different generation,
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  different background,
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  different life experience.
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  So I'll tell you.
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  Part of that perhaps led to,
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  you know,
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  one of the differences in terms of,
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  as I reflect on it,
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  how
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  I would have done things differently.
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  This woman is infuriating.
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  She didn't say anything there.
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  There was no answer to that at all.
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  That we're,
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  their ages are different,
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  that's,
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  that's your answer?
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  That's what she tried to do,
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  by the way,
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  in the moment.
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  I think everyone knows that I'm different than Joe Biden.
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  I think people can see that.
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  Yet we know you're two different human beings,
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  we are aware of that.
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  What would you do different as far as policy goes?
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  Is there any policy difference?
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  Is there any approach difference?
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  Is there anything at all?
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  Her answer to that was no,
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  and
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  still seems to be no.
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  She still can't give an answer to the question.
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  Fascinating,
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  and you know what it.
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  Yes,
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  it would
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  require you to be critical of President Biden
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  because you're saying you would do things differently.
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  Now that might not mean that you have to say
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  he's a bad president or even that he's completely incoherent.
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  You might not even have had
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  to admit that,
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  though
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  it probably would have been a good idea to show that you're in touch with reality.
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  However,
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  as she very clearly said there,
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  she did not embrace the reality of the situation,
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  which is very true.
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  That's the one thing that she said that was actually accurate there,
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  but like,
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  You have to be able to say,
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  look,
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  yes,
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  I think President Biden did this,
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  this and this wrong.
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  Here's how I would have done it right.
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  I think he had good motivations there,
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  but I didn't like his approach on this.
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  He,
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  he suggested this,
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  this is what I would do differently.
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  Now of course,
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  all of her differences probably would have been like,
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  I would have disliked Jews more,
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  but still,
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  at least she could have said something.
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  Here she is with absolutely no idea about even recent history.
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  We had
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  a president of the United States
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  running
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  for
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  reelection
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  3.5 months from the election,
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  decides not to run.
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  The sitting vice president
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  enters the race against a former president of
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  the United States who's been running for 10 years
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  with 107 days to go.
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  And it ended up being
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  the closest presidential election in the 21st century.
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  Just dutiful nod there,
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  of course,
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  from Rachel Maddow,
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  who doesn't even question the fact that she's saying
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  it is the closest election in the 21st century.
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  It is not the closest election in the 21st century.
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  You might remember the 2000 Bush Gore election,
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  which was decided by 537 votes.
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  Uh,
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  that one,
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  kind of an important one as well.
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  You also might remember,
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  um,
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  now remember the Trump election was 229,766 votes when it comes to the popular vote.
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  Trump won
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  by that amount.
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  Of course,
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  Biden actually won the popular vote in 2020,
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  but by only 42,000.
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  Trump actually lost the election,
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  as far as closeness goes in the popular vote,
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  but about 77,000 votes needed to switch hands
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  to make him win.
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  That was a closer election as well.
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  The Bush election in 2004 versus John Kerry was also closer
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  than the Kamala Harris.
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  The only ones that were a bigger margin were 2008 and 2012 with Obama winning.
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  Those are the only two.
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  Every other election has been more
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  close
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  than the Kamala Harris election,
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  uh,
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  with Donald Trump.
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  So that's just another thing you remember.
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  Now we did go into that election,
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  as I told you at the time,
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  with about 7 swing states.
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  All of them were pretty close.
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  You know,
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  the way that you kind of look at it,
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  you want to make it look as close as possible.
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  Uh,
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  I've discussed it this way before.
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  Uh,
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  you had all these swing states.
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  Well,
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  Kamala Harris needed to win those blue wall states,
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  and the biggest
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  blowout
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  of those was 2 points.
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  I think it was 1.8 points in Pennsylvania,
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  was the biggest blowout of those states.
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  So it was a close election.
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  It's,
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  it's important to remember that it was way too close for comfort,
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  uh,
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  but
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  it wasn't nearly as close as other elections that we've seen.
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  She did not like losing the election.
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  Apparently she was very upset about it,
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  despite her terrible performance.
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  Here she is discussing how that made her feel
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  that night.
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  I grieved
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  in a way that I have not since my mother died
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  and it was,
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  I was,
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  the pain was,
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  it was not at all about losing a race.
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  I knew what it was gonna mean for the,
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  for the country.
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  I was gonna say for the family and that's what and that's how I felt for the country.
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  I knew what it was gonna mean,
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  but I knew
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  and I,
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  and,
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  and,
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  and
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  all I could say over and over again is my God,
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  my God,
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  my God.
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  I mean,
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  it was,
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  it was a very difficult.
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  I,
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  I mean,
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  I know everyone,
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  many people experienced it in different ways.
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  I mean,
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  she again doesn't say anything.
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  Does she ever say anything in these clips?
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  She isn't saying anything there.
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  She said she was sad,
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  and then she said,
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  I said my God,
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  my God,
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  my God,
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  over and over again.
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  Which is fascinating considering,
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  uh,
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  many different aspects of that particular election.
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  OK,
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  so,
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  uh,
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  she also went on and ranted about,
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  this is with uh Rachel Maddow.
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  Uh,
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  now you,
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  you
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  play,
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  uh,
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  you make the call on this one.
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  Do you think that she's calling Trump a communist dictator here?
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  They're trying to say no,
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  she wasn't saying he was a communist dictator.
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  It's kind of how I take it,
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  at least by seeing it on,
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  uh,
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  you know,
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  in texts,
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  which is where I've read it,
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  um.
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  Give me your call on this.
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  Do you think she's actually calling Trump a communist dictator,
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  or she's comparing historical error?
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  A tyrant.
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  We used to compare the strength of our democracy
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  to commun communist dictators.
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  That's what we're dealing with right now in Donald Trump.
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  And these
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  titans of industry
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  are not speaking
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  up.
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  I mean,
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  I just feel like that's exactly what
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  she because they're in the transcript it says
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  that's what we're dealing with right now,
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  period.
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  Donald Trump and these titans.
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  When you hear her say it,
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  she says that's what we're dealing with right now in Donald Trump,
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  period.
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  That's how she broke that sentence out,
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  so I 100% think
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  she was calling him a communist dictator.
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  Now I am not a fan of communist dictators.
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  I think they're really bad.
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  If Trump were one,
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  I would not like it.
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  Occasionally he steps over certain lines that I don't appreciate,
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  even as the President of the United States
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  with maybe a little bit more executive power
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  than is my particular vision of the country.
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  That being said,
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  there's really not much to point to him being a communist.
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  It's
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  it's a pretty weird,
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  I mean,
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  I don't remember this much deregulation in Stalin's era.
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  Uh,
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  really,
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  really strange accusation.
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  Now if your idea is I'm calling him a communist dictator because
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  Trump is bad and communism is bad,
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  well,
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  I can at least be a little bit excited that you've been able to wake up to that one,
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  cause uh it seems like you've been trying to push that one through for a while.
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  Uh,
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  finally,
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  this is my,
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  maybe my favorite moment of this fledgling tour.
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  Harris says Buttigieg was her first choice for running mate.
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  You might say,
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  OK,
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  well,
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  you know,
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  she's kind of
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  trying to bail herself out of the Tim Walls choice.
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  Everybody knows that was one of the dumbest things that
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  anyone has ever done in the history of human beings,
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  and
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  I would.
• 14:02
  Generally agree with that analysis,
• 14:04
  uh,
• 14:04
  but
• 14:05
  her basic answer for the Mayor Pete thing was to say,
• 14:08
  well,
• 14:08
  I didn't put him on the ticket because he was gay,
• 14:10
  and I was afraid
• 14:11
  all the Americans,
• 14:12
  they're all racists and homophobes,
• 14:13
  and they wouldn't elect him
• 14:15
  because he was gay.
• 14:17
  Um,
• 14:17
  then she went on Rachel Maddow's show,
• 14:20
  who is gay,
• 14:21
  and she had to answer to that,
• 14:23
  and again,
• 14:24
  I don't think she says one actual thing here,
• 14:26
  but watch.
• 14:27
  Um,
• 14:29
  I,
• 14:29
  I,
• 14:29
  I guess what,
• 14:31
  I guess I'd ask you to just elaborate on that a little bit.
• 14:33
  It's hard to hear,
• 14:35
  um,
• 14:35
  with you running as,
• 14:37
  you know,
• 14:37
  you're the first woman elected vice president.
• 14:39
  You're a black woman and a South Asian woman,
• 14:41
  uh,
• 14:41
  elected to that high.
• 14:42
  Office very nearly elected president
• 14:45
  to say that he couldn't be on the ticket
• 14:46
  effectively because he was gay it's hard to hear.
• 14:48
  No,
• 14:48
  no,
• 14:48
  no,
• 14:49
  that's not what I said that that's
• 14:51
  that he couldn't be on the ticket because he is gay.
• 14:54
  My point
• 14:56
  as I write in the book is
• 14:58
  that.
• 15:00
  I was clear that
• 15:02
  in 107 days in one of the most
• 15:06
  hotly contested elections for President of the United States against
• 15:10
  someone
• 15:11
  like Donald Trump who knows no floor.
• 15:15
  To be a black woman running for president of the United States
• 15:19
  and as a vice presidential running mate,
• 15:23
  a gay man.
• 15:26
  With the stakes being so high,
• 15:28
  It made me very sad,
• 15:30
  but I also realized it would be a real risk,
• 15:34
  right?
• 15:34
  So you're just backing up no matter
• 15:37
  how,
• 15:37
  you know,
• 15:37
  I've been an advocate and an ally of the LGBT community my entire life.
• 15:43
  It wasn't about,
• 15:44
  it wasn't about,
• 15:45
  yeah,
• 15:45
  right,
• 15:45
  so it wasn't about any,
• 15:46
  any prejudice on my part,
• 15:48
  but
• 15:50
  We had such a short,
• 15:51
  we had such a short period of time.
• 15:56
  And the stakes were so high.
• 15:57
  See,
• 15:58
  I'm not saying I didn't put him on the ticket because he's gay.
• 16:00
  I'm saying I did put him on the ticket because the stakes were too high
• 16:03
  for me to allow a gay person on the ticket.
• 16:06
  That's,
• 16:06
  that's the clarification by Kamala.
• 16:09
  I maintain this,
• 16:10
  by the way,
• 16:11
  that the only person I've ever heard of in my entire life
• 16:16
  to admit
• 16:17
  that they did not hire a person because they were gay
• 16:21
  is Kamala Harris.
• 16:23
  Now I understand
• 16:25
  that many others have probably done so,
• 16:28
  but in reality,
• 16:29
  most people don't admit that.
• 16:30
  She just came out and wrote a book about how she didn't pick him because he was gay.
• 16:34
  Now she says it's not her prejudice,
• 16:35
  she says it's her prejudice
• 16:37
  about how prejudiced the rest of the country is,
• 16:40
  which in some ways is actually worse,
• 16:42
  I think,
• 16:43
  because you're not,
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  it's not that it's one person who's a homophobe.
• 16:47
  You're saying,
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  you know,
• 16:48
  80.
• 16:49
  100 million people are homophobes,
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  so I think it's actually worse,
• 16:52
  but that's her attempt to sell you this book.
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  You're gonna buy it?
• 16:56
  107 days in in stores now or soon.
• 17:00
  I don't really know.
• 17:01
  I haven't looked it up yet,
• 17:02
  but
• 17:03
  check out the book and if you do read it,
• 17:05
  please tell me
• 17:06
  more about what's in it because I can't bring myself to,
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  to open it.
• 17:17
  If you're waking up feeling groggy or dragging through the day,
• 17:20
  or just stuck in a cycle of bad sleep,
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  Joined now by Jason Buttrell,
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  head writer and researcher for Glenn Beck.
• 18:42
  Um,
• 18:42
  Jason,
• 18:43
  thanks for coming on the program.
• 18:44
  We had some breaking news,
• 18:45
  uh,
• 18:45
  earlier this morning,
• 18:46
  right before the radio show started,
• 18:47
  of a shooting here in Dallas at an ICE facility.
• 18:50
  It was interesting to see.
• 18:52
  The news break
• 18:54
  um
• 18:55
  because you had the initial thought of it's a nice facility,
• 18:57
  obviously,
• 18:58
  the first thought is going to be a left wing
• 19:01
  shooter.
• 19:02
  Then there was a
• 19:03
  big influx of people saying no,
• 19:06
  it was,
• 19:07
  it was.
• 19:07
  People who were detainees being shot,
• 19:10
  that means it was a right wing shooter.
• 19:12
  And then we find out from the police and FBI
• 19:16
  kind of the same story that we thought of at the beginning.
• 19:18
  Um,
• 19:19
  is that,
• 19:19
  is that the way you followed the story as well?
• 19:21
  Yeah,
• 19:22
  um.
• 19:23
  And I will say,
• 19:24
  you know,
• 19:24
  I was listening to you guys talk about it this morning on radio,
• 19:27
  and,
• 19:27
  uh,
• 19:27
  I think you guys,
• 19:28
  uh,
• 19:28
  uh,
• 19:28
  you know,
• 19:29
  you,
• 19:29
  you very much took the right approach to it because we just don't really,
• 19:32
  we didn't have all the information,
• 19:35
  what's,
• 19:35
  it's sad to say that most of these are going in the direction of.
• 19:38
  Where we initially think they're going,
• 19:40
  which is some kind of,
• 19:41
  you know,
• 19:41
  left wing attack,
• 19:43
  uh,
• 19:43
  that is definitely
• 19:44
  that that's the norm over the past few months.
• 19:46
  Sure seems like it
• 19:47
  sure seems like it,
• 19:48
  but
• 19:48
  I mean these
• 19:50
  we're entering very dangerous times
• 19:53
  where
• 19:54
  these attacks are happening
• 19:56
  primarily from the left lately.
• 19:58
  But I feel like
• 20:00
  they're,
• 20:00
  you know,
• 20:01
  part of the plan that they're going for is to kind of induce this Bubba effect
• 20:06
  response,
• 20:07
  and that's what they're goading
• 20:08
  people
• 20:09
  that
• 20:10
  would be considered on the right into these,
• 20:12
  you know,
• 20:13
  retaliations.
• 20:14
  Yeah,
• 20:14
  explain that because the Bubba effect is
• 20:15
  something Glenn's talked about quite a bit,
• 20:16
  but it's,
• 20:17
  it's basically antagonizing,
• 20:19
  I eventually the right
• 20:22
  into some sort of horrible response to these things,
• 20:24
  right?
• 20:24
  Yeah,
• 20:24
  so the bubba effect is,
• 20:25
  you know,
• 20:26
  and.
• 20:27
  You can understand it is what makes it so dangerous,
• 20:31
  but
• 20:32
  we've seen,
• 20:33
  you know,
• 20:33
  the imbalance in the justice system happen over the past,
• 20:36
  you know,
• 20:36
  you know,
• 20:37
  decade or whatever that's been going on.
• 20:39
  We see
• 20:40
  radical left wing rioters be called peaceful protesters,
• 20:44
  and nothing ends up happening with it.
• 20:46
  They'll go to jail.
• 20:48
  Uh,
• 20:49
  you'll see politicians advocate on social media for them,
• 20:52
  you know,
• 20:52
  for defense funds to get them out of jail.
• 20:55
  We're like,
• 20:55
  wait a minute,
• 20:55
  they just burned down a car dealership.
• 20:57
  Are you?
• 20:57
  Kidding me,
• 20:58
  and you're talking about this.
• 21:00
  We people elected you into office.
• 21:02
  They're,
• 21:02
  you know,
• 21:02
  it's a very top down,
• 21:04
  bottom up,
• 21:04
  you know,
• 21:04
  re,
• 21:05
  you know,
• 21:05
  uh,
• 21:06
  thing that's going on right now.
• 21:07
  But though,
• 21:08
  in the bubba effect you get just
• 21:10
  regular people that are like,
• 21:11
  wait a minute,
• 21:12
  if nothing is gonna happen,
• 21:14
  if law and order is not going to happen,
• 21:16
  then it is my duty
• 21:17
  to therefore take up,
• 21:19
  you know,
• 21:20
  this duty and then seek justice any way I can think of.
• 21:23
  And hopefully we don't get to that point,
• 21:24
  hopefully
• 21:25
  we're not at it now.
• 21:27
  This is what's really we might,
• 21:29
  it might cross that threshold.
• 21:31
  You never know when a crazy person from either side is going to do something,
• 21:34
  but we are seeing continual
• 21:36
  left wing violence going on right now,
• 21:39
  and a lot of it,
• 21:40
  I think,
• 21:40
  organized,
• 21:40
  right?
• 21:41
  Like these are organized around these Antifa groups.
• 21:43
  They're talking about,
• 21:44
  you know,
• 21:44
  making Antifa,
• 21:45
  I know Trump has already signed this on making Antifa a terrorist group.
• 21:49
  Is this the right approach to try to take out these organizations?
• 21:51
  Absolutely.
• 21:52
  I think that I,
• 21:53
  I,
• 21:54
  I haven't read in depth the full executive order.
• 21:57
  Was yesterday,
• 21:58
  um,
• 21:59
  but I remember looking at that when,
• 22:00
  when,
• 22:01
  when the president first mentioned it,
• 22:02
  and there did need to be some,
• 22:04
  I guess,
• 22:05
  changes is the way he in the way they would write the executive order.
• 22:07
  So
• 22:08
  primarily they would have to make changes to make it,
• 22:10
  you know,
• 22:11
  legal for them to go after,
• 22:13
  um,
• 22:14
  uh,
• 22:15
  like the funding apparatuses of,
• 22:16
  of many of these organizations,
• 22:17
  but it opens up a brand,
• 22:19
  a whole another web of ways to
• 22:21
  not only,
• 22:21
  uh,
• 22:22
  go after the people that do these attacks,
• 22:24
  but the people,
• 22:25
  you know,
• 22:25
  one step,
• 22:26
  you know,
• 22:26
  back behind them,
• 22:27
  the people.
• 22:27
  You know,
• 22:27
  some facilitators,
• 22:28
  then one step back there.
• 22:30
  What money?
• 22:32
  Where has it been coming from?
• 22:33
  Uh,
• 22:34
  what was it originally designed for,
• 22:36
  uh,
• 22:36
  you know,
• 22:36
  like you,
• 22:37
  you can,
• 22:37
  you,
• 22:37
  you've seen some of these like,
• 22:38
  you know,
• 22:38
  funding,
• 22:39
  you know,
• 22:39
  like kind of like Data Republican where they show all this like funding webs,
• 22:43
  uh,
• 22:43
  this,
• 22:43
  this is out there.
• 22:44
  We've allowed it for far too long.
• 22:46
  Um,
• 22:47
  I was just looking today on,
• 22:48
  on just,
• 22:49
  just,
• 22:49
  uh,
• 22:50
  you know,
• 22:50
  just kind of
• 22:51
  conceptualize how bad this is.
• 22:53
  Um,
• 22:54
  Antifa was,
• 22:55
  you know,
• 22:55
  they've been publishing,
• 22:56
  they're not even afraid.
• 22:57
  It publishing
• 22:58
  all of these instructions on how to what they call lead a resistance.
• 23:02
  What they're talking about is an insurrection.
• 23:05
  Um,
• 23:05
  if you even,
• 23:06
  you know,
• 23:07
  whisper the word insurrection if you were on the right,
• 23:09
  you know,
• 23:10
  or,
• 23:10
  or do something stupid like a stand somewhere with a sign
• 23:14
  that might have even been,
• 23:15
  you know,
• 23:16
  vaguely conceived as being,
• 23:18
  you know,
• 23:18
  for
• 23:19
  the,
• 23:19
  you know,
• 23:20
  the rally that led to the storming of the Capitol on January 6th,
• 23:23
  then you would probably get the shock and awe effect
• 23:25
  and you would have your house raided by the FBI.
• 23:28
  Well,
• 23:28
  these people are
• 23:29
  actually doing an insurrection.
• 23:31
  They're they're publishing
• 23:33
  instructions on how to create no go zones.
• 23:37
  This is a direct quote from from one of their pamphlets.
• 23:39
  Create no go zones for federal government law enforcement.
• 23:43
  What they're talking about is doing violence so that
• 23:45
  they feel scared to go into certain areas.
• 23:47
  This is absolutely an insurrection.
• 23:50
  They are not scared to publish this
• 23:53
  information because no one's held them accountable
• 23:55
  and
• 23:56
  people
• 23:57
  obviously are there's
• 23:59
  obviously cash going towards going towards these people in some way.
• 24:04
  I,
• 24:04
  I don't know if it's organized and you know,
• 24:06
  huge donors,
• 24:07
  you know,
• 24:07
  like,
• 24:07
  you know,
• 24:08
  the usual suspects,
• 24:09
  some of their money,
• 24:10
  or if it's small people,
• 24:11
  just I don't know,
• 24:12
  but it all has to be stopped,
• 24:14
  and this is a major problem right now because
• 24:16
  we've looked at,
• 24:17
  there's this attack.
• 24:18
  Um,
• 24:19
  that happened,
• 24:19
  we'll get more information on it.
• 24:21
  Uh,
• 24:21
  another sniper attack,
• 24:23
  um,
• 24:24
  but we're also another,
• 24:25
  uh,
• 24:25
  sniper attack at an ICE facility was that a
• 24:27
  few months ago down Alvarado again here in Texas,
• 24:30
  another
• 24:31
  Antifa style cell,
• 24:34
  um,
• 24:34
  someone had ties to trans ideology as well,
• 24:36
  right?
• 24:36
  One did,
• 24:37
  yeah,
• 24:37
  Tratifa,
• 24:38
  Tratifa,
• 24:39
  which is a great,
• 24:39
  I mean,
• 24:40
  it's a great name.
• 24:40
  It is,
• 24:41
  it's a great name.
• 24:42
  Follow,
• 24:42
  follow Andyn from post-millennial,
• 24:44
  um,
• 24:44
  he's great.
• 24:45
  He is making the case right now on X that you know,
• 24:48
  yeah,
• 24:48
  absolutely these people are terror organizations.
• 24:50
  He's just laying it all out.
• 24:52
  I mean the,
• 24:52
  the case seems very,
• 24:53
  very clear,
• 24:54
  but the thing that worries me is about I was looking at the Alvarado ICE attack
• 24:58
  and they're evolving how they do these things.
• 25:01
  They're taking more like military style attacks like ambush style attacks,
• 25:05
  and these are not advanced level.
• 25:07
  Like you don't have to be like special forces to.
• 25:09
  Know these attacks I mean any basic
• 25:11
  military person that went through boot camp knows these kinds of attacks,
• 25:15
  and one of the,
• 25:15
  the alleged shooter,
• 25:17
  I think was a marine.
• 25:18
  I used to be a Marine,
• 25:19
  um,
• 25:20
  they're incorporating a lot of this.
• 25:22
  They're elevating and escalating their tactics,
• 25:25
  and now we're seeing follow on that are very,
• 25:27
  very similar.
• 25:28
  I mean,
• 25:29
  I,
• 25:29
  I was
• 25:30
  shocked that I heard that the person actually.
• 25:33
  Took his own,
• 25:33
  took their own life after this most recent attack this morning,
• 25:37
  because usually when you do like a sniper attack or something like that
• 25:40
  you intend to try and get away,
• 25:42
  right?
• 25:42
  Yeah,
• 25:43
  you're far enough away that you have an escape route.
• 25:45
  We even saw that of course in Utah.
• 25:47
  The guy actually did get away for quite some time,
• 25:49
  planned on it,
• 25:50
  he said,
• 25:50
  he said in that one with the Charlie Kirk assassination,
• 25:52
  he planned on
• 25:53
  taking that,
• 25:54
  I think he said something that he would tell maybe his relatives.
• 25:57
  You know,
• 25:58
  when he's on his deathbed,
• 25:59
  that,
• 25:59
  that,
• 25:59
  that,
• 25:59
  that's,
• 26:00
  he wanted,
• 26:00
  he wanted to get away with it that far
• 26:03
  and not say anything.
• 26:03
  Yeah,
• 26:04
  um,
• 26:05
  uh,
• 26:05
  by the way,
• 26:05
  we have the photo of the,
• 26:06
  uh,
• 26:07
  the bullet casings.
• 26:08
  This is,
• 26:08
  uh,
• 26:08
  one of the big pieces of evidence that has come out from Kash Patel
• 26:11
  specifically,
• 26:12
  and they said anti-ICE slogans.
• 26:14
  Actually,
• 26:14
  the word anti-ICE is written on the bullet,
• 26:18
  uh,
• 26:18
  so that is what,
• 26:19
  uh,
• 26:19
  at least part of what they found.
• 26:21
  Uh,
• 26:21
  and that is where we are right now in that investigation.
• 26:24
  I want to switch gears in the last two minutes here before we go
• 26:26
  of this other story that's not making as much news.
• 26:28
  I made the case yesterday,
• 26:29
  it's a much bigger news story than Jimmy Kimmel,
• 26:31
  uh,
• 26:31
  which is this bizarre communications network in New York City.
• 26:37
  That was uncovered by agents
• 26:41
  that could theoretically have
• 26:43
  taken down the New York City communications system.
• 26:46
  Of course this is all revolving around the UN,
• 26:49
  at least timeline wise.
• 26:50
  We don't know if it was specifically about the UN.
• 26:51
  Can you kind of
• 26:53
  what should we know about the story?
• 26:54
  Well,
• 26:55
  for one,
• 26:56
  our adversaries,
• 26:57
  the more and more technologically we get,
• 26:59
  you know,
• 27:00
  our enemies are finding ways to,
• 27:03
  you know,
• 27:04
  probe the vulnerabilities of that.
• 27:06
  There's so many different ways that they can attack us and and harm us
• 27:10
  and
• 27:10
  for far too long we've been willing to let in people that we don't
• 27:15
  even into this country that we have no idea who who they even are.
• 27:18
  Back in the old days,
• 27:19
  back like in the Cold War,
• 27:21
  every time someone that came in that we even suspected might have ties to
• 27:24
  like any kind of foreign intelligence service or someone that wanted to harm us,
• 27:27
  they were instantly identified when they came
• 27:29
  across the border or even before that when
• 27:30
  they got on a plane to to come over to the United States or however.
• 27:35
  And they were immediately tracked by like the FBI
• 27:37
  and if there was a facility like this,
• 27:40
  they would instantly know where it was at they would try to take advantage of it.
• 27:43
  They,
• 27:43
  they would defeat it before they could even
• 27:45
  these things were managed.
• 27:46
  Nowadays this is almost impossible to do,
• 27:49
  um.
• 27:50
  I don't know who was involved with this,
• 27:53
  you know,
• 27:53
  with this potential attack.
• 27:55
  I mean,
• 27:55
  because there's reporting that it might,
• 27:56
  it was tied to China.
• 27:58
  Could have been,
• 27:59
  but how many Chinese nationals have gone across
• 28:02
  our southern border in the past 8 years?
• 28:05
  Who
• 28:06
  knows?
• 28:07
  We're doing things with in,
• 28:08
  in this era,
• 28:10
  these kinds of attacks,
• 28:11
  uh,
• 28:12
  there's a whole new era of asymmetrical warfare that's going on.
• 28:14
  Right now
• 28:15
  you don't have to be an incredibly capable
• 28:18
  nation like China,
• 28:19
  like Russia
• 28:20
  to pull off a major attack like that because it's,
• 28:23
  it's relatively,
• 28:23
  I mean,
• 28:24
  you,
• 28:24
  there's a lot of sophistication involved,
• 28:26
  but you can gather up enough SIM cards and routers
• 28:29
  and all this stuff to perform an attack like this,
• 28:31
  and you can be a Venezuela.
• 28:33
  A lot of stuff going on with Venezuela right now,
• 28:36
  um,
• 28:36
  they have a lot of,
• 28:37
  uh.
• 28:39
  Actually designated terror operatives within the United States,
• 28:43
  uh,
• 28:44
  uh,
• 28:44
  Trendiagua group,
• 28:46
  how many of them are still in the country?
• 28:47
  I mean,
• 28:48
  and,
• 28:48
  and by the way,
• 28:49
  Venezuela learned espionage
• 28:52
  from the Cubans.
• 28:52
  The Cubans learned it from the KGB,
• 28:55
  very,
• 28:55
  very capable.
• 28:56
  These are the kind of enemies that we're looking at right now.
• 28:58
  They can attack us with drones.
• 28:59
  They can attack us all sorts of ways.
• 29:02
  What
• 29:03
  is awful about what the Biden administration did to our country
• 29:07
  in the name of politics,
• 29:09
  in the name of trying to win over some bleeding heart,
• 29:12
  uh,
• 29:12
  you know,
• 29:13
  you know,
• 29:14
  sentiments,
• 29:15
  uh,
• 29:16
  which they don't give a crap about immigrants,
• 29:18
  they don't care.
• 29:19
  You need to look at everything in this country,
• 29:21
  everything politically,
• 29:22
  and this is really on all sides,
• 29:23
  but,
• 29:24
  but,
• 29:24
  but mostly we're looking at,
• 29:25
  you know,
• 29:25
  the last 4 years of the,
• 29:27
  of the country,
• 29:28
  but everything they do,
• 29:29
  everything they say they care about.
• 29:30
  Erase that from your mind and think of it in terms of this lens.
• 29:34
  How does them making this case
• 29:36
  give them more control and power?
• 29:38
  That's what it's all about.
• 29:40
  Nothing about feelings.
• 29:41
  Nothing about human rights.
• 29:42
  They don't,
• 29:43
  they could give a crap about human rights.
• 29:45
  What gives them more power and control?
• 29:47
  Is it an electorate?
• 29:48
  Is that what they want?
• 29:49
  Or is it just,
• 29:50
  you know,
• 29:50
  winning over,
• 29:51
  uh,
• 29:51
  a demographic of,
• 29:53
  you know,
• 29:54
  18 to 49 year old white women in the United States?
• 29:57
  Always that,
• 29:57
  but that's,
• 29:58
  that's,
• 29:58
  that's the danger that they've done to this country.
• 30:00
  That's what they've set us up for these kinds of attacks.
• 30:02
  It's gonna be a long road to harden our country before we can even feel safe again.
• 30:06
  I think it's just gonna take a while.
• 30:07
  Yeah,
• 30:07
  it feels like we're just in a chaotic period.
• 30:09
  Uh,
• 30:10
  Jason Buttrell,
• 30:10
  head writer,
• 30:11
  researcher for Glenn Beck,
• 30:13
  Jason,
• 30:13
  thanks for coming on.
• 30:14
  Appreciate it.
• 30:14
  You bet.
• 30:24
  And I was thinking about this Jimmy Kimmel thing,
• 30:26
  and I was just like,
• 30:26
  I just can't,
• 30:27
  I,
• 30:27
  I can't,
• 30:28
  I just wanna rant about it constantly because it's driving me
• 30:31
  insane.
• 30:31
  And I thought,
• 30:32
  you know who might,
• 30:33
  might have something to say
• 30:35
  about government infringement on free speech and the First Amendment.
• 30:39
  Steve Baker,
• 30:40
  investigative journalist over here on Blaze News,
• 30:42
  he's an opinion contributor as well.
• 30:44
  Steve,
• 30:45
  I mean,
• 30:45
  do you have any opinions on free speech and the government interaction?
• 30:48
  None whatsoever.
• 30:49
  No,
• 30:49
  no,
• 30:50
  no,
• 30:50
  I don't even know why you had me on today.
• 30:51
  All right,
• 30:52
  thanks for joining us.
• 30:52
  I'm Steve Brige.
• 30:53
  No,
• 30:54
  Steve,
• 30:54
  I mean you.
• 30:56
  What's frustrating me,
• 30:57
  I think more than anything,
• 30:58
  is this standard being set by all these commentators.
• 31:01
  Chris Hayes said it,
• 31:01
  I brought it up 1000 times.
• 31:03
  And then last night Jimmy Kimmel,
• 31:04
  uh,
• 31:05
  on,
• 31:05
  uh,
• 31:06
  actually he was on maybe Seth Meyers,
• 31:08
  one of the other late night shows.
• 31:09
  Jake Tapper goes on and he says the exact same thing.
• 31:11
  Quote,
• 31:12
  It was pretty much the most direct infringement by the
• 31:14
  government on free speech that I've seen in my lifetime.
• 31:17
  The standard they are setting as if they've completely
• 31:20
  ignored everything that's happened over the last decade.
• 31:24
  You are a direct example
• 31:26
  of the government
• 31:27
  going after someone on a First Amendment violation.
• 31:31
  That's right of free speech and freedom of the press.
• 31:33
  Well,
• 31:34
  and it began
• 31:35
  for me before January 6th because I was
• 31:38
  Completely,
• 31:40
  uh,
• 31:40
  obliterated uh by,
• 31:42
  you know,
• 31:42
  these de-platformers on social media
• 31:44
  back when I was just a blogger,
• 31:46
  you know,
• 31:47
  and
• 31:47
  I was,
• 31:48
  uh,
• 31:48
  I had tens of thousands of followers on my blog,
• 31:50
  subscribers,
• 31:51
  and they just took me down because
• 31:54
  I didn't follow the COVID narrative,
• 31:57
  so they were already attacking me in,
• 31:58
  in 2000.
• 32:00
  Uh,
• 32:00
  so by the time we got to January 6th,
• 32:02
  and this is the most important thing about January 6th,
• 32:04
  regardless of what anybody thinks about what I was doing that day,
• 32:07
  whether I was just a glorified trespasser or whether I was an insurrectionist,
• 32:11
  Ryan Riley from NBC News,
• 32:13
  he tweeted out the next day after my arrest,
• 32:15
  he said.
• 32:17
  If not for the words that Mr.
• 32:19
  Baker said before he got to the Capitol
• 32:21
  and after he left the Capitol,
• 32:23
  this case
• 32:24
  most surely would not have been brought,
• 32:26
  quote unquote.
• 32:27
  And that's,
• 32:28
  I mean,
• 32:28
  obviously true.
• 32:29
  You were just standing there.
• 32:30
  I mean,
• 32:30
  you,
• 32:31
  you,
• 32:31
  you're being,
• 32:31
  uh,
• 32:32
  Uh,
• 32:32
  you're being generous here saying if you think I'm an insurrectionist,
• 32:35
  there's zero evidence you did anything like that.
• 32:38
  You're on video the entire time
• 32:40
  on your phone and taking video and,
• 32:42
  and writing.
• 32:43
  Like that's all you were doing.
• 32:44
  And then in my court hearing,
• 32:46
  uh,
• 32:46
  because,
• 32:46
  you know,
• 32:47
  I,
• 32:47
  I refused to go through the shaming process of the trial.
• 32:51
  And interestingly,
• 32:52
  on a side note,
• 32:52
  and we haven't even talked about this,
• 32:54
  is 3 days before my November 12th
• 32:57
  court hearing in 2024.
• 32:59
  Um,
• 33:00
  Matt Peterson,
• 33:01
  our editor in chief here at The Blaze,
• 33:03
  got a
• 33:04
  private message from Charlie Kirk,
• 33:07
  and he,
• 33:07
  because he was on the transition team,
• 33:10
  the president,
• 33:11
  and he sent a note,
• 33:12
  said my,
• 33:12
  you know,
• 33:13
  Matt said,
• 33:14
  my guy talking about me is
• 33:15
  facing the judge on,
• 33:16
  on Tuesday,
• 33:18
  and
• 33:18
  Charlie said.
• 33:20
  It's already done.
• 33:21
  Full pardon.
• 33:23
  I have the screenshot.
• 33:24
  I will keep it with me the rest of my life.
• 33:26
  Yeah,
• 33:26
  yeah,
• 33:26
  no,
• 33:26
  he's involved in that.
• 33:27
  Yeah,
• 33:28
  yeah.
• 33:28
  And so I was able to go into that situation with full confidence that it,
• 33:32
  that I knew what was coming.
• 33:33
  But interesting,
• 33:34
  interestingly,
• 33:34
  the judge knew what was coming as well
• 33:37
  because.
• 33:37
  After everything was said and done,
• 33:39
  he looked at the clerk and he says,
• 33:40
  OK,
• 33:41
  when is Mr.
• 33:41
  Baker's sentencing hearing gonna be?
• 33:43
  And she types it up
• 33:44
  and she says,
• 33:44
  it's gonna be on,
• 33:46
  um,
• 33:46
  March 6th at 9 or 10:30 a.m.
• 33:50
  and he goes,
• 33:50
  OK,
• 33:50
  Mr.
• 33:51
  Baker,
• 33:51
  since
• 33:52
  I'm probably not going to see you in March.
• 33:55
  He knew the pardons were coming as well,
• 33:58
  and he said,
• 33:59
  um,
• 34:00
  I'm going to,
• 34:00
  and he used an interesting word,
• 34:01
  he said,
• 34:02
  I'm going to therefore
• 34:03
  hazard to deliver to you
• 34:05
  my normal remarks that I would give during a sentencing hearing
• 34:09
  and,
• 34:09
  and so you didn't ask for that,
• 34:11
  right,
• 34:11
  right,
• 34:12
  and I have the transcript and,
• 34:14
  and he spent the next 7 or 8 minutes dressing me down.
• 34:18
  100% for my journalism
• 34:22
  post January 6th
• 34:24
  rather than
• 34:25
  what I did that day.
• 34:27
  Never,
• 34:27
  never criticize one single action of mine
• 34:30
  on the day at the Capitol.
• 34:32
  Because
• 34:32
  he's seen the videos,
• 34:33
  he knew that I didn't do anything.
• 34:35
  He criticized there.
• 34:36
  There's,
• 34:36
  you weren't even the only,
• 34:38
  if you were the only journalist who went in there and took video,
• 34:40
  then maybe you could say,
• 34:41
  well,
• 34:42
  you shouldn't even have crossed in as a journalism,
• 34:43
  a journalist.
• 34:44
  There were
• 34:45
  New York Times journalists there,
• 34:46
  there were all sorts of journalists there,
• 34:47
  they were inside,
• 34:48
  they were doing the same thing you were doing.
• 34:50
  It was completely ridiculous from the beginning.
• 34:52
  And now to see this,
• 34:53
  where all of a sudden,
• 34:55
  the left is just like,
• 34:55
  oh gosh,
• 34:56
  we're big free speech warriors.
• 34:58
  All of a sudden,
• 34:59
  in this one case,
• 35:00
  with this one guy who was suspended for 4 days with pay.
• 35:06
  This guy
• 35:07
  who is on broadcast,
• 35:08
  and again I can't stand the FCC.
• 35:11
  I wish it was just go away.
• 35:12
  My guess is you feel the same way on that one.
• 35:15
  I have to deal with this throughout my entire career.
• 35:17
  I don't want the FCC,
• 35:18
  but this is the one area of speech
• 35:21
  where they do have this
• 35:22
  carved out right,
• 35:23
  at least with our current understanding of the First Amendment,
• 35:26
  where they can do something about this,
• 35:28
  or at least
• 35:29
  have some pressure on these agencies and these stations.
• 35:33
  When they were going
• 35:35
  to social media,
• 35:36
  they were going to podcasts,
• 35:37
  they were we just found out they were going to YouTube,
• 35:39
  the Biden administration,
• 35:40
  and banning specific speech and specific
• 35:43
  uh
• 35:44
  creators.
• 35:45
  This happened to you,
• 35:46
  it happened to Douglas Mackey.
• 35:47
  We talked to him yesterday.
• 35:48
  This has happened to Glenn Beck.
• 35:49
  This has happened
• 35:50
  all over the,
• 35:51
  it happened to people who are currently,
• 35:52
  RFK Junior is currently in the government.
• 35:54
  It happened to him.
• 35:55
  This is insanity.
• 35:57
  That they're asking us to just deny the fact that the last decade happened.
• 36:01
  Exactly.
• 36:01
  You know,
• 36:02
  I,
• 36:02
  I go back just to the Twitter files.
• 36:04
  That's all you need to go back to.
• 36:05
  And at one point we learned in the Twitter files and all those revelations
• 36:10
  is that Twitter itself
• 36:12
  had up to maybe even more,
• 36:14
  100
• 36:16
  FBI
• 36:17
  and CIA
• 36:19
  agents
• 36:20
  officing
• 36:21
  in the Twitter building in San Francisco
• 36:24
  for this.
• 36:25
  sole purpose of doing nothing
• 36:27
  but looking for unacceptable speech
• 36:30
  that needed to be pulled down
• 36:31
  and then you had Jen Psaki,
• 36:34
  you know,
• 36:34
  going on the air
• 36:35
  and answering a question about,
• 36:37
  you know,
• 36:37
  the.
• 36:39
  Uh,
• 36:40
  the,
• 36:40
  the improper narratives that were on YouTube and on the internet and on Facebook,
• 36:45
  and she said,
• 36:45
  oh,
• 36:45
  yes,
• 36:46
  well,
• 36:46
  we just,
• 36:46
  uh,
• 36:46
  had a call with,
• 36:47
  uh,
• 36:48
  you know,
• 36:48
  Facebook this morning and we're reporting to them
• 36:51
  the accounts that we think are in violation or,
• 36:53
  or,
• 36:53
  you know,
• 36:53
  using it,
• 36:55
  it said it with her outside
• 36:56
  voice
• 36:57
  in the press,
• 36:58
  you know,
• 36:58
  in the press conference
• 36:59
  there at the White House,
• 37:00
  and it's like they,
• 37:01
  they forgot all of that.
• 37:03
  How?
• 37:04
  How could it possibly be?
• 37:05
  It's,
• 37:06
  it's just.
• 37:07
  It's mind boggling,
• 37:09
  and we're supposed to sit here and act like this is a big deal.
• 37:11
  Like I,
• 37:12
  like,
• 37:12
  I,
• 37:13
  I have,
• 37:14
  I,
• 37:14
  and I've said this before,
• 37:15
  I,
• 37:15
  I favor a sort of a,
• 37:17
  you know,
• 37:17
  a slap and hug
• 37:19
  approach.
• 37:20
  My version of that is
• 37:22
  you do stuff like this,
• 37:23
  when they do stuff like this and they say we're gonna go after Kimmel,
• 37:26
  or,
• 37:26
  or,
• 37:26
  you know,
• 37:26
  Brendan Carr makes comments saying we might go after Kimmel,
• 37:29
  whatever the pressure they feel is.
• 37:31
  If that happens,
• 37:32
  we pair it with the hug and we say,
• 37:34
  you know what,
• 37:35
  here's legislation that says the FCC goes away completely.
• 37:38
  Are you guys on board with us on this?
• 37:39
  And of course they're not going to be because what they actually
• 37:42
  want is this power for themselves when they get into office.
• 37:46
  They don't care about censorship.
• 37:49
  They just don't want their voices censored.
• 37:51
  And I went and watched Kimmel's.
• 37:54
  Apologetic non-apology,
• 37:56
  you know,
• 37:57
  this morning so I,
• 37:58
  so that I could
• 37:59
  know what he said last night because otherwise I'd never watch his show or
• 38:03
  Colbert or anybody anymore,
• 38:04
  you know,
• 38:04
  since,
• 38:05
  since
• 38:05
  Carson and Letterman are gone,
• 38:07
  what is there,
• 38:08
  you know,
• 38:08
  and,
• 38:09
  and so.
• 38:10
  What they,
• 38:11
  what they don't understand,
• 38:12
  what they don't get is that you can't go on the air.
• 38:15
  And,
• 38:15
  and of course he was not critical of Charlie in his statement.
• 38:18
  He lied.
• 38:19
  He lied about it.
• 38:20
  He lied about the source and the,
• 38:22
  the background of the killer.
• 38:23
  And what's going to happen in a situation like that is that
• 38:26
  all of these string of ABC affiliate stations who are not owned by Disney
• 38:31
  that happen to have all of their stations in the Bible Belt
• 38:35
  are gonna go,
• 38:36
  we're not gonna.
• 38:36
  Carry you anymore.
• 38:37
  And besides,
• 38:38
  you're losing us money
• 38:39
  anyway.
• 38:40
  We can't sell ads for you because your ratings suck,
• 38:43
  you know,
• 38:43
  when you're like 750th in the rating,
• 38:46
  uh,
• 38:46
  it's,
• 38:47
  it's,
• 38:47
  it's not a,
• 38:48
  that's not a great statement for your
• 38:50
  show and who you are.
• 38:51
  And then the,
• 38:52
  the model itself is,
• 38:53
  is a dinosaur anyway.
• 38:55
  He's got hundreds of employees for that one show,
• 38:57
  probably dozens of writers
• 38:59
  that can't figure out how to write a joke
• 39:02
  and.
• 39:02
  With those hundreds of employees,
• 39:04
  compare that
• 39:05
  to the Rogans,
• 39:06
  to the Glenn Becks,
• 39:07
  to the,
• 39:08
  to the newer models,
• 39:09
  and
• 39:10
  it doesn't work anymore.
• 39:11
  You know,
• 39:12
  like an approach like a Rogan or a Theo Vaughn
• 39:14
  or somebody like that that you'd put in that slot,
• 39:16
  Dave Landau,
• 39:17
  you know,
• 39:17
  that would make a lot of sense for one of these networks.
• 39:20
  It would be much cheaper and they'd probably make tons of money.
• 39:22
  It's not like you can't have someone in that slot being funny.
• 39:25
  It's just the way they're doing it.
• 39:27
  I watched the Kimmel thing last night.
• 39:28
  Night,
• 39:28
  and let me get your comments on just
• 39:31
  on this part.
• 39:32
  I felt,
• 39:33
  first of all,
• 39:34
  uh,
• 39:34
  he did lie in the first statement,
• 39:36
  and I believe he lied about his lie last night.
• 39:39
  He said,
• 39:40
  uh,
• 39:40
  well,
• 39:40
  I wasn't trying to put blame on either side,
• 39:42
  which is not true.
• 39:43
  And then he lied again saying we don't know which side of this person was against.
• 39:47
  We do,
• 39:48
  we have plenty of information.
• 39:49
  If you're gonna take a gander,
• 39:51
  you could,
• 39:51
  you could know.
• 39:52
  I did feel though,
• 39:53
  and I don't know,
• 39:53
  maybe he just fooled me.
• 39:55
  I did feel that his
• 39:57
  emotion around
• 39:58
  Charlie Kirk dying,
• 40:00
  it felt real to me.
• 40:02
  Um,
• 40:02
  he,
• 40:02
  it happened to him twice.
• 40:03
  He talked about Erica as well.
• 40:06
  I don't know.
• 40:07
  What was your sense of that?
• 40:08
  Well,
• 40:08
  when I saw it,
• 40:09
  my first reaction was
• 40:11
  that was real.
• 40:12
  And then my,
• 40:13
  you know,
• 40:14
  my lizard brain kicked in,
• 40:16
  and I wanted to,
• 40:17
  I was like,
• 40:17
  no,
• 40:18
  this has gotta be a fake.
• 40:19
  He's an actor anyway,
• 40:21
  but it did seem.
• 40:22
  It did seem real,
• 40:23
  but then it's like,
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  OK,
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  now I've got to get past my emotions
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  and I've got to double down,
• 40:27
  and then I'm gonna triple down on it
• 40:29
  and I'm gonna lie again.
• 40:30
  I,
• 40:30
  I thought that was the problem with it.
• 40:31
  Like I,
• 40:32
  I think,
• 40:32
  I think he probably is a guy who doesn't want people murdered and for speaking out.
• 40:36
  He probably,
• 40:37
  I'm sure he's not that guy,
• 40:38
  um,
• 40:38
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• 40:39
  he was unable to bring himself to say,
• 40:41
  look,
• 40:42
  I was wrong.
• 40:43
  I,
• 40:43
  I was,
• 40:43
  I lied about this.
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  He was unable to bring himself to even a moment of,
• 40:47
  of just not being silly and,
• 40:49
  and.
• 40:49
  And self-aggrandizing about his whole incident.
• 40:53
  So it was,
• 40:53
  I was not impressed by the overall performance,
• 40:55
  but
• 40:56
  maybe there's a bit of humanity there,
• 40:57
  I don't know.
• 40:58
  Uh,
• 40:58
  Steve Baker,
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  investigative journalist and Blaze News opinion contributor,
• 41:01
  I'm,
• 41:01
  I'm waiting for all the apologies for skipping over
• 41:04
  your story all these years from the left,
• 41:05
  Steve.
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  Any day.
• 41:07
  We'll see.
• 41:07
  Any day,
• 41:07
  OK.
• 41:08
  It's coming soon.
• 41:08
  Steve,
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  thanks so much.
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  Appreciate it.
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• 42:25
  so here's what happened.
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  A shocking development,
• 42:28
  one of the most unpredictable things possible.
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  Yes,
• 42:31
  Greta Tenberg and her flotilla is having problems,
• 42:35
  you see.
• 42:37
  She was there to fight for Gaza,
• 42:39
  for the Palestinian free Palestine,
• 42:40
  as you know.
• 42:42
  The problem is they decided to add someone who was queer
• 42:46
  to the flotilla,
• 42:47
  and you're going to be very surprised to hear the Free Palestine
• 42:52
  activists that were already involved in the flotilla did not take kindly to that.
• 42:56
  A choppy seas,
• 42:57
  Greta Tunberg's flotilla mutinies after the queer activist joins cause.
• 43:02
  Uh,
• 43:02
  one person resigned,
• 43:03
  and then we got this comment as well from others.
• 43:06
  Palestine is the issue of Muslims first and foremost and
• 43:08
  cannot be separated from its spiritual and religious dimension.
• 43:11
  So why do you involve suspicious activists in it who serve other
• 43:15
  agendas that do not concern us and have no relation to Gaza,
• 43:18
  such as homosexuals?
• 43:21
  What do we hear?
• 43:22
  Why do we hear the voices of suspicious activists
• 43:25
  that are outcasts?
• 43:27
  Why do you divide people?
• 43:28
  We don't need someone in a queer movement in our flotilla.
• 43:32
  What a
• 43:33
  shocking development that is.