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AM800 | Morning Drive – Ambassador Bridge Blockade LIVE Cover & Perspective · Kvetch & Release

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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And one of the people Lisa that happened to be
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  Speaker 2: down there most of the weekend watching to see whether
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  Speaker 2: or not that blockade would be ended is John Lecky,
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  Speaker 2: who has heard here on AM eight hundred from time
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  Speaker 2: to time. He appears on the Dan McDonald show as
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  Speaker 2: part of Dan's round Table heard Friday mornings between nine
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  Speaker 2: and ten. Also the co host and producer of Roast
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  Speaker 2: City Politics. And John was down there doing a live
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  Speaker 2: feed on Twitter for much of the weekend. So John, Nolla,
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  Speaker 2: this thing is over. What's your you know, your main
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  Speaker 2: kind of reflection, if you will, are thoughts looking back
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  Speaker 2: on how everything went went down.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on and Happy Valentine's Day list
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  Speaker 1: you too. I want to start with that. Thank you
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  Speaker 1: so much. You know it was interesting the reflection, right
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  Speaker 1: and looking back on it, I mean, how did this
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  Speaker 1: occur on Windsor streets? I was there. I spoke with people.
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  Speaker 1: The vast majority were not Windsored. They weren't from around here.
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  Speaker 1: But think about the economic damage that was rot and
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  Speaker 1: I know the news pool uh says that most people
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  Speaker 1: agree that there was a need to clear it out,
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  Speaker 1: and it was cleared out. And I think that's because
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  Speaker 1: Windsor Rights don't stand for what occurred. Most windsor Ites
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  Speaker 1: here agree that we need our automotive sector to be working.
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  Speaker 1: Who wants to see another ship shipped down?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no kidding. And it's interesting John that you say,
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  Speaker 3: and I heard you say that over the weekend too.
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  Speaker 3: That from you basically talking to a lot of the protesters,
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  Speaker 3: following them on social media and their communication that a
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  Speaker 3: lot of them were not and most of them were
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  Speaker 3: not from this area. So because you've kind of had
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  Speaker 3: that connection and and followed what they are saying to
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  Speaker 3: one another, what are they saying now? Are they quiet
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  Speaker 3: or are they trying to plan something else? Do you
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  Speaker 3: even have some sense of what's to come that way?
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  Speaker 1: You know, the chatter is regrouping. You can listen to
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  Speaker 1: them on their apps that they use. Yeah, they organized publicly,
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  Speaker 1: which is you know, incredible, you're playing direction and you're
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  Speaker 1: doing it on a public But of course the police
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  Speaker 1: they listen to. But not only that, people like me
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  Speaker 1: and the chatter right now is trying to find a
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  Speaker 1: way to trying to find a way to reorder. But
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  Speaker 1: of course Windsor police have retaken the West End. There
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  Speaker 1: is no doubt that they will hold it. And it's
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  Speaker 1: not just windsor police. I'm sorry, this is opp RCMP.
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  Speaker 1: There are jurisdictional police coming into the area as well.
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  Speaker 1: The point being is that you know law enforcement will
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  Speaker 1: hold the area, and while people on the internet might
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  Speaker 1: want to try to organize and chatter about it, I
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  Speaker 1: just don't see the opportunity at the moment. I think
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  Speaker 1: that people will be trying to get to the area
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  Speaker 1: and they will find that they're not able to get
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  Speaker 1: to the area. They can get to their cars, walk in,
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  Speaker 1: and I think police will stop them on the way. Now,
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  Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that we're always going to have this
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  Speaker 1: police professors, but we also know that the Premiere is
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  Speaker 1: going to be inshrining these new emergency powers into legislation,
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  Speaker 1: which means that if you are trying to block critical
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  Speaker 1: infrastructure moving forward, once the legislation has enacted, you will
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  Speaker 1: just be able to have your license seed. You will
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  Speaker 1: be able to have your vehicle seed. These are your
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  Speaker 1: rights because you choose to do something like that.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think that this and in talking to people
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  Speaker 2: out there, because you did, and I know I have
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  Speaker 2: my opinions on this, but do you think this is
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  Speaker 2: just strictly about the mandates quote unquote, I certainly don't.
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  Speaker 2: This is all about people who just don't want government
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  Speaker 2: at all in any form.
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  Speaker 1: You know that. It's an interesting question because absolutely though,
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  Speaker 1: when you're down there and ask people it is about,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they don't want their restrictions. They want to
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  Speaker 1: go back to the way things were before COVID. I
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  Speaker 1: think we all want to go back to the way
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  Speaker 1: things were. No one's happy about it, But you bring
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  Speaker 1: up a very interesting point. When you get to some
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  Speaker 1: of the larger issues with these people, you start to
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  Speaker 1: realize that it's not a cohesive group. They aren't, you know,
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  Speaker 1: all aligned on the same issues. And then you start
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  Speaker 1: to peg down a little bit deeper, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: we just touched on it there. These are people who
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  Speaker 1: don't like authority. These are people who believe they should
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  Speaker 1: have their right to just act, you know, however they want.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not casting judgment on it, but you know
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  Speaker 1: what I did say often over the past weekend, and
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  Speaker 1: the reflection that I can give today is that this
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  Speaker 1: didn't feel like a Canadian process. This didn't feel like
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  Speaker 1: it was cannon. Let me tell you what it felt
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  Speaker 1: like and It was quite frankly, it was a Trump rally.
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  Speaker 1: That's what it felt like being down there. It was
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  Speaker 1: like what we have all watched on YouTube, what we've
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  Speaker 1: seen on you know, the news over the past five years.
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  Speaker 1: This was a Trump type rally. Not saying it's Trump rally,
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  Speaker 1: but it it felt like.
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  Speaker 3: That, Yeah, So is this what we deal with moving forward?
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  Speaker 1: John?
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  Speaker 3: Are we are we a changed nation that way?
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  Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think that we need to
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  Speaker 1: have some moments of reflection upon this. There might need
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  Speaker 1: to be again, we know the premiere is going to
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  Speaker 1: be bringing forward the new powers and enshrining them in legislation.
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  Speaker 1: There might need to be legislation that struck forward at
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  Speaker 1: the municipal, provincial, and federal level to be able to
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  Speaker 1: maybe quickly or more quickly prevent this from occurring again.
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  Speaker 1: These types of convoys obviously are able to easily come
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  Speaker 1: into town. I mean, it's a vehicle you can drive in, right,
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  Speaker 1: and it can cause so much economic current. And is
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  Speaker 1: this Canada moving forward? I don't think so. I think
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  Speaker 1: that the vast majority of Canadians look at what occurred
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  Speaker 1: and are disgusted with it. Maybe some of the most
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  Speaker 1: vocal supporters. This is the problem. Sometimes the smallest stop,
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  Speaker 1: this voice can carry a crowd push things forward. It
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  Speaker 1: doesn't mean that they're speaking for the majority of people. Now,
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  Speaker 1: is this Canada moving forward? I suppose if we allow
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  Speaker 1: this to be Canada moving forward, that is the concern.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we're seeing absolutely, and we're seeing evidence that people
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  Speaker 2: in Ottawa don't want this to happen either. Thanks more
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  Speaker 2: much for being with us. John Leckey heard here on
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  Speaker 2: AM eight hundred, of course, and co host and producer
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  Speaker 2: of Ros City Politics, a podcast. You can check him out.
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  Speaker 2: He was down there all weekend