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UK Column News Podcast 21st August 2024 · UK Column Radio

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon. It's Wednesday, the twenty first of August twenty
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twenty four, just after one o'clock. Welcome to UK Colin News.
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I'm your host Make Robinson joining me in the studio
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today with Charles Mallett. Welcome to the program, Charles, Thank you, Mike,
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and from Damascus, Vanessa Bilities joining us as well. Now
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we're going to get kicked off today Charles. With yacht
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sinkings and other coincidences.
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Speaker 2: Yes, we are, good afternoon all. Yes, this is the
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news that within very close proximity to each other, two
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co defendants of a case that's just been to trial
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in America have respectively been killed and gone missing. On
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the left, we see the BBC reporting the death of
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Stephen Chamberlain, formerly of Autonomy and then Invoke Capital and
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associated with Dark Trace, which we're going to come on
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to talk about hit by a car in Cambridgeshire on Saturday.
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And then on Monday, the yacht belonging to Mike Lynch
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was reportedly overturned in harbor or Sicily. Also on board
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Jonathan Bloomer of Morgan Stanley and their solicitor Christopher Morvillo. Now,
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of course, at first sight this does seem like a
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coincidence beyond credibility. But what it does do is to
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shine a spotlight on not just the court case that
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had closed, but also the other activities that they, respectively
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had been involved with. So if we go back to
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the court case itself, which concerned the suggestion that there
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had been a fraudulent inflation of the price of Autonomy,
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which was founded by Lynch, and indeed Chamberlain worked there
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at the company with him. It was sold to Hewlett Packard,
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and the fraud allegation has just been quashed in effect
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by a federal court in San Francisco. So the sort
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of celebration aboard the yacht named Basian, which of course
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is worth mentioning because it refers to a statistical branch
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of mathematics predicting future outcomes on past events in effect.
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But this is giving us a further look at what
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they did with the proceeds of the sale of Autonomy
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to Hewlett Packard, which was to put the money into
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a company called Invoke Capital, with which they were able
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to set up other businesses. And I should just draw
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your attention to what it says on the front page
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of their website, which is that exists to realize the
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commercial possibilities of Britain's extraordinary science and deep technology base.
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So commercial possibilities are the critical part of this entire story,
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it would seem so. With funding from Invoke Capital, a
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cybersecurity company called dark Trace was set up in twenty thirteen.
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Headline there from the dark Trace website Invote Capital makes
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first investment in fundamental cybersecurity technology. Now it wasn't terribly
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long after, at least this is the first report of
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it on the dark Trace website that the UK government
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signed a multimillion dollar contract with dark Trace. Now, interestingly,
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the UK government is quite quiet about this, very difficult
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to find any reference to dark Trace specifically on the
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government website. But nonetheless, it's going back a tiny bit
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to twenty sixteen. There was an award, a Queen's Award
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given to dark Trace for what's described as an enterprise
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there enterprise immune system. So just to get into the
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nuts and bolts of what dark Trace actually does, or
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at least says that it's capable of, and it concerns
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what's called pattern of life, so it concerns official intelligence,
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so it says it's powered by AI algorithms, and the
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enterprise immune system works by learning the pattern of life
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of each user and device across the entire digital infrastructure.
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Using this evolving understanding of normal, dark Trace spots emerging
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threats and autonomously responds to in progress attacks before they
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do damage. But of course we have to consider the
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type of threat and the type of damage. Are we
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talking about threat to government and population or corporate interests?
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And this is the line that we need to understand better.
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They go on to say that it's powered by machine
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learning in mathematics, and it was developed by specialists from
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the University of Cambridge and intelligence from former MI five
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and GCHQ experts. Dark Traces self learning technology is able
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to monitor network activity and tech threats as they develop,
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which helps companies get ahead of the threats. Now, of course,
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with a capability like that, it's no great surprise that
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they go on to say that some of the world's
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largest corporations rely on dark Traces self learning technology and
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sectors including energy and utilities, final services, telecommunications, healthcare, manufacturing, retail,
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and transportation. So, of course, with all of this in mind,
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first of all, dark Trace seems to be suggesting that
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they can predict outcomes based on their monitoring and surveillance
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of people and the way that they use devices in particular. Now,
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should we be concerned therefore, that this is an arrangement
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that government have gone into, specifically because of course Invoke Capital,
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which has funded dark Trace and indeed has involved Lynch
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and Stephen Chamberlain has a course declared that their chief
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concern here are the commercial possibilities for the organization. Now,
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the other connection that I want to draw your attention
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to is that dark Trace describes CrowdStrike as being a
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dark Trace technology partner, and of course CrowdStrike was responsible,
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shall we say, for an enormous IT outage recently due
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to an update or least, so the story goes and
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update that in fact brought several technologies to a standstill.
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But they say that they stop breaches. They power productivity, technology,
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intelligence and expertise come together in our industry, leading CrowdStrike
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Falcan platform to deliver security that works. And then we
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look at the government website, of course, the government in
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effect selling CrowdStrike products. There, we can see that one
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hundred and twenty pounds for a virtual machine on what
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they're calling their Falcon platform. So the CrowdStrike, of course
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partnered with dark Trace, which is funded by an organization
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that specifically is set up to further commercial interests or
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commercial possibilities. And now we look at who's actually involved
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with dark Trace, of course part from Lynch himself and
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Chamberlain who had come from Autonomy and Capital. But we
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see first of all, in terms of sort of profile,
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Jonathan Evans, and we look at his background former director
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general of mi I five where he spent thirty three
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years focusing on intern and domestic counter terrorism and cyber threats.
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And this is very much a pattern, one might say.
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We've also got the XCIA official Alan Wade, who is
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described as being the chief Information Officer of the CIA,
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who's joined the Board of Advisors. Now this has been
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written about in the past by the Classified UK in
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an article back from twenty twenty saying how Britain's profiteering
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spymasters ignored the country's biggest threats like coronavirus and endangered
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the public. Now they're not actually suggesting that coronavirus was
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the country's biggest threat. The point they're making is that
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the government was talking about it as though it was
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the biggest threat and yet they weren't dealing with it
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in the same way that they were other things. So
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the key phrase from the declassified article is revolving door,
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and they go on to say that the revolving door
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between government and industry is meant to be regulated for
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conflicts of interest by the Advisory Committee on Business Appointment. However,
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he classified can find no evidence that an intelligence chief
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has ever had and a COBA application rejected. This allows
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them to lobby their old agencies on behalf of their
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private interests after they leave office. So we'll just have
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a look at the detail of that. Specifically, we've talked
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about Evans, Jonathan Evans. So the letter that concerned his
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appointment back from twenty thirteen said that it was approved
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on a dual condition that he should not draw on
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privileged information available to him from his time in Crown Service.
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They felt it was especially pertinent in this case given
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the sensitive nature of his job and also the need
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to avoid the perception that dark Trace was gaining an
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unfair advantage due to it. And then also from two
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years from his last day of service, he should not
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become personally involved in lobbying the UK government on behalf
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of his new employer, and they go and say its
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parent company or its clients. The accidents that have befallen
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these two men have well, either by design or not,
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brought into the public domain. Now an awful lot of
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information there's still going to need to be picked through
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in some considerable detail to see exactly, first of all,
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what has happened to them, how it did happen. I
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mean it does seem coincidence absolutely, As I said at
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the outset, beyond credibility, there will be all sorts of
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wild speculations one shouldn't doubt, but really to examine the
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relationship between government and corporation and where those relationships overlap
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in terms of a united desire to pursue civilian populations
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by means of monitoring and surveillance in order to predict
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behavior and therefore control it. So there's an awful lot
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more that's going to come out of this story one imagined.
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Speaker 1: Indeed, and Vanessa once again it highlights the very tight
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links between cybersecurity companies and eelligence agencies. We've been highlighting
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connections to Unity two hundred with so many of these,
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but it's not just Israeli intelligence as Western other Western
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intelligence agencies as well.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, and as I say, that's a very important
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aspect of what we're talking about to keep an eye
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on for the future. But today I wanted because there's
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a lot of conversations going on about the threat of
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nuclear escalation between Russia and NATO, but in my view,
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everyone's rather ignoring the very real threat of Israel's Sampson
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option and it's nuclear capability which has been kept very
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under wraps, as many people describe it, sort of basement
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nuclear capability. So this is from the Strategic Vision Institute
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deconstructing Israel's Sampson option and what it means, so this
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Ampson option can be employed in case convention of the
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Terrans fails. The CIA believed as early as nineteen seventy
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six the Israelis had STOCKFILD ten to twenty nuclear weapons.
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By two thousand and two, it was estimated that the
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STOCKFILD number had increased more than seventy five. In two
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thousand and six, George W. Bush's Defense Secretary Robert Gates
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admitted and a Senate hearing that Israel has nuclear weapons,
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and two years later, former US President Jimmy Carter also
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said that the number of Israeli nuclear warheads is more
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than one hundred and fifty. That number is now considered
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to be much higher. Those testimonies by senior US officials
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established the fact that Israel does possess nuclear weapon capability.
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So what does this actually mean? This is an article
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at the Progressive dot Com Israeli nuclear ambiguity its lack
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of official confirmation or denial. It's also not a signatory
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to the Non Proliferation Treaty, and it's the only country
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in the region or only state in the region, that
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does possess nuclear weapons, but that secrecy persists to this day. Nevertheless,
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as of twenty twenty one, researchers estimate that the country
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possesses ninety nuclear warheads. These figures do change according to
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the reports. Capable of being delivered by aircraft, land based
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ballistic missiles, and sea based cruise missiles. Israel is reserving
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these weapons for the Sampson option and all out assault
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on the civilian population centers of its opponent, but also
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of its friends if under threat. So let's have a
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look at the next part of that article. It stands
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in contrast for Sampson option to doctrines embraced by other
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nuclear powers, such as the Mutually Assured Destruction mad developed
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during the Cold War. MAAD posits that nuclear powers like
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the US and Soviet Union or now Russia could know
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each other from ever using nuclear weapons through the threat
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of retaliatory strikes that would ensure mutual destruction. However, Israel
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doesn't adhere to this policy, as it does in its
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defense policy. Generally it believes in preemptive strikes. And so
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if we look at what that also entails, I mean,
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in the eighties, Mordecai Vanunu was given the Right Livelihood
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Award for his courage and self sacrifice in revealing the
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extent of Israel's nuclear weapons. He was in prison for
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eighteen years by Israel for treason. Eleven of those years
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was spent in solitary confinement, and even though he was
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released in two thousand and four, he basically is not
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allowed to talk to foreign journalists and his movements are restricted.
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So this is a recent image in Israeli media of
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the Demona nuclear power facility that has been targeted in
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the recent escalation, and if we look at what it
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says in the Jerusalem Post, this was in June of
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this year. Israel is upgrading its plutonium for its reactor
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at the nuclear research facility in Demona. And basically, so
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basically this is effectively admitting that that Israel has nuclear warheads.
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But the I A ea, sorry, I always get that
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one mixed up. The International Atomic Energy Agency has not
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to date been able to inspect those facilities. Now, what
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I want to point to because in a sense, with
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the NATO Russian conflict we're dealing with, particularly from the
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Russian side, a degree of rationale. This is an article
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in the Cradle saying Israel isn't crazy crazy, it's just
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mad nad And that doesn't mean mutually a short dist
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and it means literally mad. So let's have a look
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at what they mean. Basically, what Israel is doing is
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presenting itself as an over like a rabid dog in
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its war policy. So I'm just going to read down
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the middle column. First, people are more likely to attack
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you if they see you as weak or vulnerable. Second,
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they cannot know for sure that you're weak. They depend
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on the signs that you give out through your behavior
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both present and past. Hit them where you sense they
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may be vulnerable and make it hurt. Well, we're definitely
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seeing that in Israel's genocidal policy, you are not acting
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out emotionally. That is a sign of weakness. You're simply
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hinting that you are a little irrational and that your
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next move could be almost anything. So just relate this
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back to the Samson option. This reputation can be for
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any number of things, being difficult, stubborn, violent, ruthlessly efficient.
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You must build your reputation carefully, allowing no inconsistencies. Instead
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of threatening your oppayment opponents openly, you take action that
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is indirect and designed to make them think. And I
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would also point out that in two thousand and three
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Ariel Sharon said that we possess several hundred atomic warheads
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and can launch them in all directions, perhaps even at Rome.
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Most EU capitals are targets for our air force. We
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have the capability to take the world down with us,
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and I assure you that will happen before Israel goes under.
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So this is coming back to the threat of the
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Sampson option that can even be directed at what would
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be considered friendly nations, and not forgetting that. Since October
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the seventh, it was the Heritage Minister who was suspended
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after calling for the new king of Gaza as being
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an option, and more recently, the Ambasta at the UN,
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Gilad Erden, who's outgoing, in his final speech, said that
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the UN building should be wiped off the face of
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the earth, that it was a twisted and distorted institution,
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which I would agree with to some extent, but not
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for the same reasons as he does. And then finally,
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I think sixty five percent of Israeli Jews opposed criminal
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prosecution for soldiers suspected of raping Palestinian detainees. So we're
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looking at a very unstable, deliberately irrational nation with the
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potential of preemptive nuclear strikes.
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Speaker 1: Okay, thank you for that, Vanessa, and let's come back
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to the UK and censorship, perhaps perhaps a bit more
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than that. Richard Medhurst put this tweeted a couple of
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days ago talking about his arrest under the Terrorism Act
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because of his reporting. Now we have a little bit
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of video from this, let's have a look at what
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he had to say.
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Speaker 4: On Thursday, as I landed in London Heathrow Airport, I
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was immediately escorted off the plane by six police officers
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who were waiting for me at the entrance of the aircraft.
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They arrested me, not detained. They arrested me under section
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twelve of the Terrorism Act of two thousand and accused
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me of allegedly quote expressing an opinion or belief that
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is supportive of a prescribed organization unquote, but wouldn't explain
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what this meant, so I was taken to an adjacent room,
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pattered down, my phone confiscated. I was not allowed to
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inform my family. Despite being calm and cooperative, I was
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handcuffed with something that placed my shoulders in an awkward
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position and my wrists on top of rather than next
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to each other. The handcuffs were extremely tight, despite the
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police loosening. Then they left marks on me for two days.
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They searched me again for the second time. Within ten minutes.
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I was told to sit on a bench, remove my shoes,
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remove my socks. I was told to turn my socks
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inside out and hold them up for the officers to inspect.
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They also made me hold up my feet so they
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could check them as well. The officers took me to
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a room with UV lights, which they told me is
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used to catch burglars who were sprayed with something. Is
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I have no idea why they did this since they
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just removed me off of a plane. My suitcase was
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then opened in the lobby and ransacked. All of my
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journalistic equipment and devices were seized, including phones, sim cards,
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wireless microphones, microphones, headphones, even my shoelaces. They later took
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my DNA as well my fingerprints, palm prints, and photographed me.
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I was placed in solitary confinement in a cold cell
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that smelt like urine.
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Speaker 1: Now there's quite a bit more in that video clip,
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so I do suggest everybody goes and watches the full clip.
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But he was talking about being arrested Charles under section
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twelve of the Terrorism Act two thousand. Let's bring this
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on screen and just have a look at the government
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summary of their section twelve of TAG two thousand. Mix
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an offense to invite support for US prescribed organization, express
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an opinion or belief that is support of a prescribed organization,
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or to arrange or manage in a sorry or assist
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in arranging or managing a meeting in support of a
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prescribed organization. I guess in this case the situation is
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the prescribed organization is Hamas. But I mean, what were
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your thoughts based on the clip of how this was handled,
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it was an arrest appropriate for example.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's very hard to say, but it certainly
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what did happen to him having been arrested does highlight
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the ability with which police can run a sort of
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domino rally of events. So if their goal is to
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find certain it's of information or indeed articles, you know,
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he talked about having his journalistic equipment to kind of
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look through and whatnot, then the arrest is the unlocking
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device that that sets the chain in motion. So I
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think that's the critical thing here, And like so much
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this legislation that's been designed in the last sort of
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fifty years, it specifically enables this interpretation, which makes it
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almost impossible, you know, not to have the power of
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arrest in these sorts of situations. So I think that's
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the thing. It's just it's the way in which it's
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written up. It makes it too easy for police to
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do that. But certainly, you know, the way what he's
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describing of being in custody that I'm afraid is standard
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that's not related to terrorism, okay.
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Speaker 1: And of Vanessa, when similar happened to you, of course,
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you were held for not quite as long. Sorry, if
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we just put the graphic on screen here please, Stephanie,
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and we just looked because you were held under Section
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Schedule seven, which is kind of in a dendum to
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the main Act itself, which gives pretty unique pars to
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the British government to examine people without needing to arrest
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them first. So that's a different thing. But what I
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really wanted to get your thoughts on were what you
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thought about the issue of having an opinion about a
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prescribed organization.
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Speaker 3: Having an opinion is that it's about who is prescribing
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them as a terrorist organization. But if as a journalist,
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it's your job basically to talk about prescribed organizations in
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any particular conflict or arena, and to a degree, that's
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what Richard is doing as a journalist, it's what all
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of us do. So, you know, are we talking about
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the conflict here in the Middle East going to be
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accused of promoting a prescribed organization? While the BBC can
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come to EdLib and sit down for tea with a
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prescribed organization Al Qaeda or with ISOs affiliates and get
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away with it scot free, I'm sure they're not stopped
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as they come into hethrow.
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Speaker 2: Indeed, I think the brief point to make just following
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that is the absurdity of the date of the prescription.
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He Mass in this country was only prescribed in November
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twenty twenty one. So of course, had he said or
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done anything that you know, encompassed expressing support for he
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Mass prior to that, no one be able to touch him.
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And the reason that date significant is that in the
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United States the similar condition I think goes back to
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nineteen ninety seven or ninety eight. So it is like
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we see with all these things, it's the United Kingdom
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sort of pushing the edge of the envelope in order
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to be able to in effect capture people that it
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feels like wants to capture.
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Speaker 1: I think the thing that concerns me most about this
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is who decides what the line is. And you know,
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this line that gets drawn affects what people say, what
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they're able to say. We're seeing this line being pushed
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ever further towards prescribing anybody from saying anything which is
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in any way critical of government policy. I think this
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is extremely dangerous. We'll talk about this much more in
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26:55
such a critical part of life these days. That the
26:57
Attack on Food and Farmers Symposium Sick and So of
27:00
September it's going to be hosted by Children's Health Defense
27:04
at hd dot TV Forward Slash Events, and there are
27:07
some very very good and knowledgeable speakers, so I would
27:10
advise that you tune into that.
27:12
Speaker 1: Also, Brian and I will be speaking at the Heritage
27:15
Party Conference on the twentieth of September. Details on screen
27:19
and in the show notes.
27:21
Speaker 2: And then in November of this year in London there's
27:24
going to be a Dyed Suddenly Art exhibition which is
27:27
to put the spotlight on the excess deaths that have
27:31
not been sufficiently explained or given attention by the government.
27:34
If you're able to help with that, or you would
27:38
like to know more about it, get in touch with
27:40
Jake Fern at Jake Hfern at Yahoo dot co dot uk.
27:45
Speaker 1: Okay, so lot's going on at the moment. I hope
27:48
everybody will find something in that lot. Now, perhaps you'll
27:51
find this interesting because of course we all clapped for
27:54
the NHS. We know all need to clap for Ukraine.
27:57
This is a new cam pain being run through the
28:01
Ministry of Defense and others for Ukrainian Independence Day. So
28:07
I'm sorry, I'm going to impose this little piece of
28:09
video on you.
28:58
Speaker 5: Flavel Green, Hello is lover.
29:08
Speaker 1: I appreciate it's lunchtime and that may have made you
29:11
feel physically ill. But let's just they have produced a
29:14
whole document, a whole PDF document giving advice on how
29:18
to take advantage of this whole thing. So they provide
29:21
sample social media graphics that provide sample social media posts
29:25
for you. They provide a hashtag that we don't have
29:28
to think, we just have to do. And so, just
29:31
as with the NHS Charles, we need to be out
29:34
there banging our pots for Ukraine. It's great stuff, isn't it.
29:39
Speaker 5: Yes?
29:39
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, let's move quickly on to more serious things
29:44
and well.
29:44
Speaker 2: Space, Yes, space, which we will focus on quite a
29:48
bit today and have done over the last few months,
29:51
because of course, space is now becoming very much an
29:54
integral part not only of defense, but also of the
29:57
overlap between defense interests, whether modification, surveillance, and so many
30:04
other things besides. So we've got UK Space Command announcing
30:07
that the satellite, the Taichi satellite was sent into space
30:13
as part of program is stary. Now, As with so
30:17
many things in this age, the names are always rehashed.
30:20
They're seldom anything to do with British culture. So it's
30:23
just worth pointing out here that in Greek religion, Taiki
30:26
is the goddess of chance, with whom the Roman Fortuna
30:29
was later identified a capricious dispenser of good and ill fortune.
30:34
I thought that was a bit odd, but anyway, capricious dispenser.
30:38
I just want to highlight this said, as the conflict
30:40
in Ukraine has shown so the government administry, defense here
30:43
and equipment and support just using whichever sort of sweet
30:49
spot or emergency that they can here. Of course we've
30:51
got the conflict in Ukraine. But they're talking about it
30:54
being the first satellite to be launched under the Ministry
30:56
of Defence's space based is STARI program, which will deliver
31:00
a constellation of satellites and supporting ground systems by twenty
31:03
thirty one. So this is under the intelligence, Surveillance and
31:07
Reconnaissance function. But what I really want to withdraw your
31:11
attention till with this slide is that the mod are
31:14
claiming to have complete ownership of this. They are making
31:17
out that this is entirely their project. But we should
31:20
also be very mindful the fact that they say it
31:22
will contribute to other government tasks and they don't list those,
31:26
but look at what it is able to do, to
31:29
include natural disaster monitoring, development of mapping information, environmental monitoring
31:35
and tracking. Eye highlighted effectively, it's an eye in the sky,
31:39
a low orbit and it is specifically tasked with capturing
31:44
daylight imagery. We have a little sorry anyway, there was
31:50
a very short video of it. Okay, no sorry, sorry, okay,
31:55
never mind, it's gone. But it was part of the
31:59
Defense Space strategy which goes back to February twenty twenty two,
32:02
which were reported on very comprehensively by UK column at
32:05
the time. But it's part of one point four billion investment,
32:09
and again that there's going to be a network of
32:12
these satellites. But again here we see the same terminology
32:15
to support greater global surveillance and intelligence for military operations.
32:20
But what sort of military operations? But the science inside
32:25
gives us a bit more of an answer to that,
32:27
which of course is where this does come from. From DSTL,
32:30
the Defense Science and Technology Laboratory, twenty twenty two, and
32:34
this is the very opening phrase in that publication. We
32:38
live in times of increasing volatility and uncertainty. The threats
32:42
we face today, both at home and abroad, are more
32:46
complex and dynamic than ever before. So we're looking at surveillance, tracking, monitoring,
32:51
and military operations and we're talking about threats at home.
32:55
So I will leave you to draw your own conclusions,
32:57
but I think that sounds quite a clear message of
32:59
where this is going. They also point out their science
33:03
and technology capabilities. It's just worth noting how many of
33:06
those relate to human behaviors. We've got AI and data science,
33:10
Communications and networks, cyber homeland security and CT systems, counter terrorism,
33:15
human and social sciences, information systems, operational research and sensing.
33:20
So it does look very much like space. Here a
33:24
chapter within this publication is being used as yet another
33:29
means of surveilling the population. But the critical part comes
33:33
out here when I talk about the mod claiming to
33:35
have ownership. They say that they will provide a test
33:38
platform for sophisticated imaging and monitoring radio signals, including GPS. Well,
33:43
think about GPS in this day and age, everybody carries
33:45
a GPS tracking device with them all the time, paving
33:48
the way for a more collaborative and connected space communication
33:51
system with our combat allies. Well, who exactly are they?
33:55
Because of course, the bit that wasn't mentioned initially was
33:58
that this was only put into low orbit by Elon
34:01
Musk's space X. So in fact, is it owned by
34:05
the Minister of Defense or not? And well, let's just
34:08
have a look at mint Press news here. Speculating admittedly,
34:11
but they say that Elon must stop Ukraine from striking
34:14
the Russian navy by switching off starlink. So when you
34:17
think that the UK's defense, what's called the defense capability
34:21
is in effect put into orbit by somebody who owns
34:25
a company privately. And then we see on the right,
34:28
of course Musk having a very friendly conversation with Benjamin Nutten,
34:33
Yahoo of Israel. It's perfectly reasonable to ask questions of
34:37
the judgment of the government and the Minister of Defense.
34:40
So there we go. SpaceX valued at two hundred and
34:43
ten billion, but as I say, it's at the moment
34:45
a privately owned company. Now some slides that I've talked
34:49
about in the past just to highlight this. So SpaceX
34:52
here broadcasting that they provide secure satellite comms networks for
34:56
government entities, but of course spin off this or part
35:00
of it is what they call star Shield, which they
35:03
say supports national security, but whose national security. And again Starlink,
35:08
which is in effect part of the same stable, is
35:12
not possible to use in Russia, China, Belarus, Afghanistan, North Korea, Venezuela, Cuba,
35:18
Syria or Iran. So it just goes to show how
35:22
any of these engagements have gone into They're spoken about
35:24
as though we own them. We absolutely don't. They are
35:28
we are totally at the behest of corporations, and in
35:32
this case individuals like Elon Musk, which from a defense
35:35
point of view, seems an absolutely absurd position to enter into.
35:38
Speaker 1: So if that's space warfare in the UK, what's happening
35:42
in the United States. Well, just recently they have held
35:45
a conference here. It is Space and Mission Defense Symposium,
35:51
and well, I've just thought it was quite amusing that
35:53
their titanium petron was boring, since Boeing not only doesn't
35:57
seem the older manufacturer, air Crafted, don't crash at the moment,
36:00
but don't seem to manufacture spacecraft that are capable of
36:03
bringing anything back from the International Space Station because their
36:07
capsule is currently stuck up there at the moment. But anyway,
36:12
this symposium featured this gentleman. This is General Stephen Whiting,
36:19
who's head of Space Common in the United States, and
36:22
their toy. He was talking about their latest list of requirements.
36:27
The latest on the list, or the top of the
36:29
list at the moment, is a request a requirement for
36:31
what they're describing as space fires. Now, this is pretty
36:34
undefined at the moment. It has been used several times
36:36
over the years by Space Command, but they haven't really
36:39
defined it to enable them to establish space superiorities. This
36:43
is what he said, Missile defeat effects will significantly enhance
36:47
our ability to defeat trans regional ballistic crews and hypersonics
36:51
missile threats, as well as air launched a ground launched
36:55
direct assent threats. But he said that these involve new
36:59
and innovtive approaches across all domains which evolve beyond point
37:03
solutions and one versus one missile interceptor. So to translate
37:08
that a little bit, that seems to be suggesting Charles
37:10
that they are looking perhaps at electromagnetic effects where they
37:14
can affect multiple warheads and multiple weapons systems at a time,
37:19
rather than attempting to shoot things done directly.
37:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that'd be exactly right, which of course
37:24
begs the question if it can be done there, it
37:27
can certainly be done elsewhere, but will it.
37:29
Speaker 1: Be indeed, so if we bring them back on then
37:32
he went on to say this dynamic space operations is
37:34
based on the idea that in a future fight, some
37:37
of our assets in space must be able to do
37:39
what our terrestrial assets do all the time, maneuver and
37:42
sustain themselves doing so well allow our space based capabilities
37:46
to execute their mission until the objectives are met, not
37:49
until they run out of the gas they launched with.
37:51
And so the question is what is is a par
37:54
source going to be that is going to survive until
37:56
the mission is complete, And the only thing that I
38:00
can think of would be some kind of nuclear power source.
38:03
Whether they're actually intending to use nuclear power in space
38:08
remains to be seen. The other question of whether they're
38:11
actually talking about any kind of kinetic weaponry in space
38:16
is also remains to be seen. At this point, they're
38:18
still denying that, but the use of the word far
38:21
in this remains undefined and we have to wait and
38:25
see where that actually goes. But clearly space, both in
38:29
the UK and in the United States being ramped up
38:32
as a domain to be played with. And then, just
38:35
finally on this, the Army Space Vision supporting Multi Demain
38:38
Operations was published a couple of months ago, and I
38:41
just wanted to highlight one paragraph from this that they
38:45
intend to interdict adversary space capabilities by delivering necessary fires
38:50
and effects at echelon to protect friendly forces from observation
38:54
and targeting by Kundra satellite communications kind of surveillance and
38:57
reconnaissance and navigation warfare varitions, and again to translate lit
39:02
that a little bit, it's a bit unclear whether interdict
39:05
means blow up, but certainly they certainly mean to disrupt
39:11
the ability of so called enemies from observing them or
39:16
their so called allies.
39:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's it's a brilliant word because in effect, yeah,
39:21
delay destroy, disrupt any of those.
39:26
Speaker 1: Okay, Vanessa, let's come back to you then, and the
39:28
Middle East, and of course we have a so called
39:30
ceasefire plan and the offering.
39:33
Speaker 3: Yes, something that is developing really into what I described
39:38
recently on x as being a sadistic bass designed really
39:44
to enable the continuation of the genocide. So this was
39:49
the BBC News after the most recent so called ceasefire
39:53
negotiations in Doha and Kata. Of course, Hamas had refused
39:57
to actually send anyone to negotiate because, as they described it,
40:01
it was a waste of time and Israel was continuously
40:05
putting a spanner in the works. So the BBC runs
40:08
with the headline Israel accepts the bridging proposal for the
40:12
ceasefire deal, says Anthony Blinken. And then let's have a
40:16
look at a few other headlines going from basically May
40:20
this year until this week. Blincoln calls on Hamas to
40:25
accept ceasefire agreement. They should take it. Blinken says Netaho
40:31
reaffirmed commitment to guards a ceasefire plan. Blincoln says, Israel
40:35
agrees to a US back proposal for a ceasepire. Is
40:39
anyone noticing the pattern here that it's Blincoln that's constantly
40:43
saying that Israel is accepting and this is ailon Mizrahi
40:48
on X Did you notice this button where Blincoln always
40:51
announces on Netanya, who's behalf that Nettaya who agreed to
40:54
the deal, but Netania who never says so himself. Did
40:58
you notice how this time around, in previous fake negotiations,
41:02
Nettayao who never goes on record to say that he
41:05
agreed to any deal. You know why this is? It's
41:08
because blincn has committed to Natanya, who's political standing among
41:12
Jewish right wingers, and agreeing to any deal would make
41:15
Netanyahu look weak to them. So at the service of Natana,
41:19
who's image and the genocide, blink And just bluffs with
41:23
offers specifically tailored to be unacceptable to Hamas and lies
41:27
that Netanyahu accepted them. Knowing full well that Netanyahu will
41:32
never have to live up to any deal because blink
41:34
and make sure that no deal will happen, while making
41:37
sure the lie of himas inflexibility will become the official narrative.
41:43
And of course that's exactly what has happened. And in
41:48
the last few days, Hamas again has accused the US
41:51
of buying time for Israel to continue its genocide and
41:56
if we just move on, so Natanya who so this
42:00
time around again added new conditions to the ceasefire proposal.
42:04
So again he changed the actual proposal, remembering that Hamas
42:09
had accepted the Blinking Broker deal back in July and
42:13
before that in May. So let's have a look at
42:16
why Hamas rejects Israel's new conditions in Doha. As it
42:21
says in the article, basically Netanyahu's new conditions put forward
42:28
during talks in Doha, and again Hamas were not present
42:31
in Doha. Israel's new conditions include keeping troops inside Gaza
42:37
along its border with Egypt, and informed source said that's
42:41
now being confirmed. While her mass demands a complete the spire,
42:44
a complete withdrawal from the Strip, a normal return of
42:47
the displaced, and a prisoner exchanged deal without restrictions because Netanyah,
42:53
who now has demanded veto rights, were up to one
42:56
hundred of the prisoners to be exchanged. So, in other words,
42:59
palastin In prisoners to be exchanged in return to the
43:02
Israeli hostages. Natanyahu is demanding the right to veto up
43:06
to one hundred of those prisoners. So then just moving on.
43:12
So this is from Maureen Rabani again on X so
43:17
he goes through it. You can freeze frame and read
43:20
it yourself, but basically he says the same thing. The
43:23
US presents an Israeli ceasefire, pushes it through the UN
43:26
Security Council, and then contrary back in July to US
43:30
and Israeli expectations. Hamas accepts the initiative. Israel responds by rejecting,
43:36
adding new conditions to its own initiative design to be
43:39
rejected by Hamas under the guise of presenting a bridging
43:43
proposal that would address the implementation of the original initiative,
43:47
The US rewrites the initiative to incorporate the Israeli conditions presented.
43:52
After the UN Security Council endorsed and Hamas accepted the initiative,
43:57
Amas predictably rejects the new US document on the grounds
44:01
that it's a different initiative rather than a plan to
44:04
implement the initiative it accepted amid march vanfare and lavish
44:09
pray showered by Anthony Blincoln Natanie who accepts the revised
44:13
initiative and then adds more changes to the initiative. So
44:18
I think you can free to rame and read it
44:20
for yourself. But it becomes very clear that this is
44:23
nothing more than a fat and a very sadistic one.
44:27
And I just want to show Blincoln in part of
44:29
his press conference the area where he talks about the
44:33
importance of the CEA SPA, No, it's this.
44:38
Speaker 6: With every passing day that there's not an agreement, two
44:43
things can happen. One is, of course, more hostages can perish,
44:50
and second, intervening events come along that may make things
44:57
even more difficult, if not impossible, and we've we've experienced
45:00
that throughout this process. So there's the fierce urgency of now,
45:08
that's what I think we're all feeling. And we do
45:10
see this as the best opportunity to finally get this
45:12
over the finish line. We'll never give up on it.
45:15
But the challenges. The longer this goes on, the more
45:21
again hostages will suffer and possibly perish, and the more
45:25
other things happen that could make things impossible. So that's
45:28
why we're so intensely focused on getting this done, and
45:31
getting it done.
45:32
Speaker 3: Now quite extraordinary. There is absolutely no mention of the
45:40
continuing genocide and slaughter of Palestinians in that statement, and
45:45
in fact, since Blincoln's visit, this is what always happens.
45:49
Israel has actually escalated yet again, attacking Lebanon's Becco, which
45:54
is in the northeast, nowhere near the southern areas which
45:58
have been targeted. They attack Becca, wounding five children under
46:04
the age of eight and killing one. And multiple massacres
46:08
since Blincoln's visit in Gaza itself, including the wounding of
46:14
one Palestinian journalist and the killing of another, taking the
46:17
number of murdered journalists up to around one hundred and seventy.
46:23
Now and a video I'm just going to show in
46:25
han Unis of how the couad copters are used to
46:29
randomly fire on civilians. This is in a crowded refugee area,
46:41
so yeah, and this is happening on anormous hourly basis,
46:58
Israeli jets hit another Garza school, killing at least twenty twelve.
47:02
That number is now rising to around twenty And I
47:06
just wanted to show these two maps side by side,
47:12
which were produced by the UN Satellite Center, and I
47:16
think it was back in July. And on the left
47:20
you can see the bombardment of residential areas of Gaza.
47:25
In virtually all of Gaza has pretty much been destroyed. Now,
47:30
of course, there is intensity in the north and in
47:33
central Gaza and in the far south, which if you remember,
47:36
was supposed to be the safe zone for people to
47:39
flee to from the north. And on the right, that
47:42
combines the damage to residential areas and the destruction of
47:47
agricultural water reservoirs, everything that is necessary for the maintenance
47:54
of life in Gaza. So pretty sobering mapping of the
48:00
devastation in Gaza, which was not mentioned by Blincoln and
48:05
his rhetoric about a sea spire.
48:09
Speaker 1: Okay, Vanessa, thank you for that. Now let's move on
48:12
to defense pacts, and in this case, August has been
48:15
quite a bit of August news recently. If you remember
48:18
what August is, it's this defense pact between Australia and
48:21
the United Kingdom and the United States, and well maybe
48:25
we get a clue a little bit later as to
48:27
what this is really all about. So anyway, the government
48:30
very very excited that they have set up a new
48:33
defense a new trade agreement. But they're saying that the
48:38
United Kingdom, of United States and Australia have stood shoulder
48:40
to shoulder for decades to support the security instability of
48:43
the Indo Pacific region and beyond, and August is a
48:46
demonstration of our collective commitment in the region. So they
48:50
announced a Defend the Trade pact between them, which is
48:55
going to cover up to five hundred million pounds of
48:57
UK defense exports plus billions of dollars of trade between
49:02
the three nations in total. They're saying that this trade
49:06
breakthrough comes via the publication of the UK's August Nation's
49:10
Open General License, combined with a new exemption to the
49:14
US International Traffic Arms Regulations for the UK and Australia,
49:18
and new national exemptions for the UK and US in
49:21
Australia's export Control framework. So it's all just about taking
49:26
the breaks of arms controls and making sure that we
49:29
can pass weapons between ourselves and so on. Anyway, they
49:32
went on to say today's actions will strengthen our three countries,
49:36
combine military capabilities, the pace of our collaboration and response
49:40
to threat, and boost our collective industrial capacity, giving ourselves
49:44
a military and strategic edge over our adversaries. That's what
49:49
they claim now. Of course, originally this was how it
49:52
was all being presented as a submarine deal, so that
49:56
Australia would get hold of nuclear parts submarines, not new
50:00
clear weapons on board, but nuclear part submarines. By working together,
50:03
the Auchest partnership is delivering a new fleet of submarines
50:06
based on the UK's world leading design. Well is that true,
50:11
we'll see in a second. But the other thing that
50:13
they announced in the past couple of weeks was advanced
50:17
military capability spanning artificial intelligence and autonomy. And it's the
50:22
autonomy aspect of this that I think is particularly interesting.
50:25
So we have a little bit of video here. It's
50:28
an excerpt from a longer video clip. But let's have
50:31
a look at this.
50:33
Speaker 5: Great which stands for Resilient Autonomy and Artificial Intelligence technologies,
50:39
our series of AI tools and techniques as well as
50:42
autonomy packages that are being brought together across all of
50:46
the different nations.
50:47
Speaker 7: And it's all about our ability to deploy autonomous systems,
50:52
to deploy AI models, to test those models on those
50:54
autonomous systems, and work collaboratively together under the August Partnership Fee.
51:00
Speaker 8: Before we have uk US and Australian assets flying together
51:04
to meet common goals, supported by a core team on
51:07
the ground working on AI models to detect targets, push
51:13
that back into army fires chains and support army decision making.
51:19
Speaker 1: And fornessa very briefly, I mean that we've seen Israel
51:23
as using AI to allegedly target I'm so sorry to
51:27
target alleged insurgents or whatever they call them in Gaza.
51:32
This is a bad development, I think as we all
51:36
try to catch up with that capability.
51:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it does make you wonder to what
51:41
degree Unit eight two hundred is involved in this development,
51:45
because yes, there are there's Lavender and Gospel that are
51:49
systems that have been used to identify targets in Gaza
51:52
and that have effectively led to the massacre of thousands
51:56
on the basis that the AI is identifying them correctly
52:00
and of course they're.
52:01
Speaker 1: Not indeed, And then we've got this undersea warfare and
52:07
hypersonic capabilities is also being part of this August steal.
52:12
Speaker 6: This letter steal.
52:13
Speaker 1: Interesting that they mentioned this just at the time that
52:16
the North Stream two pipeline. Questioning around that is in
52:20
the headlines again. But the former Australian Prime Minister Paul
52:25
Keating had this to say about what August really is,
52:28
and I have to say I find it hard to
52:30
argue with his point here.
52:33
Speaker 9: You see, we're going to get August, but not the submarine.
52:36
What we're going to get is what Kurt Campbell, Deputy
52:39
Sector of STATIUS said, when I tie these guys up
52:42
for forty years. What Orcus is about in the American
52:45
mind is turning the suckers into Australia. We're locking us,
52:50
locking us up for forty years with American bases all around.
52:53
I mean what this report today tells you They're going
52:56
to have American bases all around Australia. American bases not Australia,
53:00
but all around Australia. So Aucus is really about, in
53:03
American terms, the military control of Australia. I mean, what's
53:07
happened I say this the Albanese government with an air policy.
53:16
It's likely internal Australia into the fifty first state of
53:19
the United States.
53:23
Speaker 1: And I say it hard to argue with that. Charles
53:26
really what he's saying. And I think the parallel might
53:30
be Israel. You know, if if the United States is
53:34
wanting to look towards China, which it clearly is and
53:36
has been for many times, it needs a base of operations.
53:39
Obviously it's got the West coast of the United States itself,
53:42
but that's quite a distance away. Australia is a little
53:45
bit closer. So what was the term that was used
53:49
with respect Israel America's aircraft carrier in the Middle East.
53:53
That seems to be what Australia is becoming.
53:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely does. I mean it seems he's I think
53:58
he see's absolutely right. It seems very transparent, so obviously
54:02
not naive of the Australian administration. Now, I mean, it
54:05
can't be accidental, but I'm certain that would be the
54:08
reason for it.
54:09
Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, Now let's come back to the UK then,
54:12
and what's going on with respect to Green Belt.
54:16
Speaker 2: Yes, quite well. Green Belts is sort of yet another
54:21
of the many attacks on land and land use that
54:25
we're seeing up and down the United Kingdom and have
54:29
done for many years, but it's become more and more
54:31
acute this year. So we've got the many competing sort
54:39
of aspects of food security of what they're calling well
54:46
nature restoration schemes, then of course the renewable thing, and
54:49
here now updated on the second of August, we've got
54:53
proposed reform to the National Planning Policy Framework the NPPF,
54:59
and other changes to the planning system. There's a lot
55:01
within this, but what I want to point out is
55:05
that it's this paragraph here that they want to remove
55:08
from a footnote, which is the availability of agricultural land
55:12
used for food production should be considered alongside other policies
55:16
in this framework when deciding what sites are most appropriate
55:21
for development, So they want to remove that now. The
55:26
consultation itself is open now and closes on the twenty
55:30
fourth of September, which you should be mindful. Of course,
55:33
you can go and view this and contribute yourself. But
55:37
in effect, what they're wanting to do, or at least
55:39
what they say, is that there's confusion within the existing
55:43
framework and additional documentation, so they say that they propose
55:49
correcting that to require local planning authorities to undertake a
55:53
review where an authority cannot meet its identified housing, commercial
55:57
or other need without altering green belt bone inies. So
56:00
straight away they've jumped the very obvious hurdle, which is
56:05
where exactly is the need for housing being demonstrated or
56:09
indeed commercial property that there's no demonstration of that with
56:14
which to meet to meet it via a means of
56:18
a planning policy framework. So that's the first thing to
56:21
point out. But effectively they are compelling local authorities to
56:25
undertake a review and it's very easy to see how
56:27
that's then a step towards using green belt. So calling
56:32
this green Belt Release, we've proposed to insert a new
56:34
paragraph in the MPPF which will make it clear that
56:37
in instances where a local planning authority cannot demonstrate a
56:40
five year housing land supply, or is delivering less than
56:43
seventy five percent against the delivery test, or where there
56:46
is unmet commercial or other need, development on the green
56:50
belt will not be considered inappropriate. When it's on sustainable
56:54
gray belt land, where golden rules for major development are satisfied,
56:58
and where development would not fundamentally undermine the function of
57:01
the green belt across the area of the plant as
57:03
a whole. I think we described that as word soup.
57:07
What an earth do they mean by it? Well, in effect,
57:10
as I say, what they're trying to do is push
57:11
the authorities to check the rule book out the window
57:15
and just build on green belt. But instead, the way
57:19
they do it is they decide, well, we'll come up
57:20
with the new term called gray belt. Of course we've
57:22
preferred to in the past, and they define this as such.
57:25
For the purposes plan making and decision making. Grey belt
57:27
is defined as land in the green belt comprising previously
57:31
developed land and any other parcels and or areas of
57:34
green belt land that make a limited contribution to the
57:37
five green belt purposes. So, of course they could still
57:40
be making contribution, but just a limited one, which therefore
57:43
makes them vulnerable. We'll just look at what the green
57:45
belt is supposed to do. Five purposes. To check the
57:48
unrestricted sprawl of large built up areas, to prevent neighboring
57:52
tones merging into one another, to assist in safeguarding the
57:55
countryside from encroachment, to preserve the setting and special character
57:59
of historic tones. And to assist in urban regeneration by
58:03
encouraging the recycling of derelict and other urban land. I
58:07
think it's safe to say that absolutely none of those
58:09
purposes or objectives are being met, and the direction of
58:13
travel via planning policy, via environmental policy, and via energy
58:18
policy is in absolute contravention of the purposes of the
58:22
green belt, most readily shown by the Renewable Energy Planning
58:26
Database quarterly extract. I've turned this into a graph format
58:30
to make it clear how these applications have gone up
58:33
and up and up in the last few years. Particularly,
58:36
we consider twenty twenty to be the sort of the
58:37
year of acceleration and limited sort of output in that time.
58:42
But we've gone up through eight hundred and forty three
58:44
and twenty twenty one, over one thousy nearly fifteen hundred
58:47
and twenty twenty two, up to eighteen hundred applications last year,
58:51
and here at August now seven hundred and forty five,
58:53
which course are written down. So it's very obvious to
58:58
see that there's just an increasing push towards this relentless
59:03
destruction of the countryside, apparently in the name of the environment,
59:07
sustainability and all sorts of things that are totally disingenuous
59:10
descriptions for what's actually going on and Mike's can talk
59:13
no more about how that's being affected with energy.
59:16
Speaker 1: Just a very brief comment because again ten Downing Street
59:19
pushing this side on Twitter yesterday, telling us reminding us
59:24
that we need to find at all about great British
59:27
energy and how this is going to be great for
59:29
us and what it can do for us. Well, I
59:31
just thought it was funny that they were pushing this
59:33
side when just the day before Cornwall Inside had been
59:37
releasing their latest forecast for what the energy price cap
59:41
was going to be for the final three months of
59:43
the year and expecting to see a nine percent increase
59:46
compared to July. So this of course is situation not
59:52
improving as a result of an ever increasing building of
59:57
when turbines and so on. The actual number will be
1:00:01
published on the twenty seventh of August, so we've got
1:00:03
a wit until then to find out whether that forecast
1:00:07
is anywhere correct. But this release of planning restrictions isn't
1:00:13
actually hasn't mean it's been happening for quite a number
1:00:16
of years now, it's just accelerating, but it hasn't really
1:00:20
resulted in the capability of reducing energy costs for anybody.
1:00:24
So what is the benefit of it. It seems to be,
1:00:28
as you've pointed out, all about restricting the use of
1:00:32
land for farming.
1:00:33
Speaker 2: Absolutely it is, yeah and indeed critically people deriving pleasure
1:00:37
from being in it, which again is completely overlooked by
1:00:40
all those that should be protecting it.
1:00:42
Speaker 1: Indeed. Okay, well we've got to leave it there for today,
1:00:44
so thank you very much to Charles and Vanessa and
1:00:47
for you all for joining us. We will be back
1:00:50
in a few minutes if the UK called member for
1:00:52
some extra Otherwise, enjoy the interview at one pm tomorrow,
1:00:56
but we'll see you on Friday. See then bye bye,
1:00:59
all right. I then had to happen
1:01:03
Speaker 7: At everything to any