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25W: Eddie Apologizes to Kickoff Kevin for Bullying Him + NHL Analyst Pierre McGuire on the Significance of Team USA Winning Gold + Tim Hardaway Sr on Going from Zero D1 Offers to the NBA Hall of Fame · 25 Whistles with Bobby Bones (A Football Podcast)

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Speaker 1: It's a podcast called twenty five Whist Stocky Sports and
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Speaker 1: they wear a whist, so yeah.
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Speaker 2: It's too bad, But what did you expect.
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Speaker 3: It's a podcast called twenty five Whist Souls Wheel. Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello,
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Speaker 3: we're international? Can we watch hockey? Oh?
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Speaker 2: Right, right, right?
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Speaker 3: Hello? Is that Australian? That's a good point?
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Speaker 4: Was Canadian?
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Speaker 3: But uh a, uh yeah, we're gonna talk to Pierre
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Speaker 3: Maguire in a second. We've never actually done a hockey segment,
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Speaker 3: but he's a former NFL NHL executive and coach and
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Speaker 3: current analyst. And did anybody else wake up and watch Heck, yeah,
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Speaker 3: me too?
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Speaker 2: You did you watch live too?
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Speaker 5: I got nine month old twins at the same time,
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Speaker 5: so I didn't really have a choice, but yeah, I
0:50
Speaker 5: was up and at him, and yeah, I watched the
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Speaker 5: whole thing.
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Speaker 3: I felt I'm an extreme casual, not gonna act like
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Speaker 3: I'm not well for hockey for America pretty end. Yeah,
1:01
Speaker 3: because of the tournament they had at the NHL is
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Speaker 3: All Star weekend when they did the Battle of the Countries.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Like I feel like I kind of know
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Speaker 3: a little about about what's going on, Like I've been
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Speaker 3: following you know, uh, Connor McDavid. Yeah, and like he's
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Speaker 3: been losing the two he's like the best, and who
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Speaker 3: does he played for well Canada, but he lost the
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Speaker 3: last two Stanley Cup Championships. But he was MVP from Canada. Anyway,
1:24
Speaker 3: we're talking a lot of idiot here. Oilers. Yeah, right,
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Speaker 3: Edmonton Canada, Edmonton oilers. So but we are going to
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Speaker 3: talk to Pierre maguire in just a second. That's cool
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Speaker 3: because that's what's up. But it was it was fun.
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Speaker 3: Huh did you ever?
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Speaker 4: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: It was awesome. Do you ever watch the games with Pierre,
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Speaker 3: like on the ice or anything. Do you remember those
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Speaker 3: at all?
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Speaker 5: Or no? When he was working for NBC, I don't feel.
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Speaker 5: Guys are crazy that are down there, the announcers that
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Speaker 5: are on the ice, They're like.
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Speaker 3: What do you mean, Pierre?
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: I don't know, Pierre. When you want TV, you never
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Speaker 3: watch hockey. Okay, guys, I can't see the puck, no.
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Speaker 6: But see.
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Speaker 2: But for a time though, there was a little tracer.
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Speaker 2: Do you remember that.
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Speaker 3: I loved that? Well, I did love it, but I
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Speaker 3: did if it came on, I liked that. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 3: I don't chase hockey because I don't know much about it,
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Speaker 3: but I did watch anything America's. It's like soccer. I
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Speaker 3: definitely get into it when we're all come yeah, and
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Speaker 3: at least we have a shot in hockey. We don't
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Speaker 3: have a shot in soccer. We won women's and men's
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Speaker 3: gold it's awesome. Did you watch the women's one too?
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Speaker 7: Did?
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Speaker 3: I just watched the overtime ol That's all I watched too,
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Speaker 3: I'm being hon Yeah, yeah, watch the whole thing, just
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Speaker 3: make I think I watched the last part of the
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Speaker 3: third period in overtime. Yes, yeah, and it was an
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Speaker 3: awesome goal. I did watch pretty much all of the
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Speaker 3: this match.
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Speaker 4: I was awake.
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Speaker 3: There's nothing on at seven am, and so.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, did you watch any No, I did not, just
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Speaker 2: the highlights.
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Speaker 3: It's cool man that you know they go to three
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Speaker 3: on three at the end. It's like in the Super
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Speaker 3: Bowl if they went to they go to overtime and
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Speaker 3: they played seven on seven flag football at the end.
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Speaker 3: For it was intense. Yeah, and I can understand people
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Speaker 3: being upset about it, Like the Canadians were really upset
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Speaker 3: that it ended in this, but they played in the quarterfinals.
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Speaker 3: They had to win by a three on three, and
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Speaker 3: they won that one by three on three. But anyway,
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Speaker 3: we know about hockey, so we're gonna wait to get
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Speaker 3: there with him. But it was cool, it was awesome.
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Speaker 3: It's cool because we won if they just made the
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Speaker 3: Canadian stand out there a long time after they lost.
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Speaker 2: So it is hockey your favorite event of the whole thing.
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Speaker 3: It probably has to be because it's what I knew
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Speaker 3: the most about.
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Speaker 2: What you watch most of too.
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Speaker 3: Snowboarding is cool.
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Speaker 4: I know.
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Speaker 3: No, I've never done that, never played hockey, but I
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Speaker 3: have ice skated. I've never snowboarded, never ski mm hmm.
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Speaker 2: Have you never gone skiing?
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Speaker 3: Huh?
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Speaker 6: I mean neither.
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Speaker 2: You would like that, but but then now we're older
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Speaker 2: and one.
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Speaker 3: Fall anyway, probably hockey, Yeah, I did. I didn't watch
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Speaker 3: our the girl who won the gold in the solo
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Speaker 3: free skating, but I watched her whole four and a
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Speaker 3: half minute routine after she's been awesome. But I didn't
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Speaker 3: watch that Liveah, I'm kind of opposer. I'm a casual,
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Speaker 3: casual American win Winter Olympics now, and I know very
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Speaker 3: much American casual with the Olympics there, So yeah, why
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Speaker 3: don't we just do a couple of things, and then
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Speaker 3: we'll go to somebody who actually knows about hockey. Yes,
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Speaker 3: because college basketball is happening. We're loving it. It's great
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Speaker 3: right now. Had a bunch of good games this past weekend.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, really good games. The top four teams playing each
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Speaker 2: other they did.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Duke beat Michigan.
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Speaker 2: Duke beats Michigan Duke.
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Speaker 3: It was a pretty good game at the very beginning
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Speaker 3: of the season. But nothing matters at the beginning of
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Speaker 3: the season so much. But yeah, and then Boozer's good.
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Speaker 3: His brother's pretty good too, but he's really good. He's
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Speaker 3: probably first or maybe second overall.
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Speaker 4: Pick. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Now there's the top three, right, Kansas kid b Yu
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Speaker 3: and him the Kansas gett even planned. He's checking out
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Speaker 3: of every game. Is that crazy? Yeah? What are you saying, Eddie?
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Speaker 2: Oh no? And then Arizona to beating Houston. Yeah, just
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Speaker 2: the way lined up. Watch again, I'm getting.
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Speaker 3: Ready for although I could have put our money with
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Speaker 3: my team.
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Speaker 2: Here's the deal. I send you a note a little
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Speaker 2: bit too early. So like Saturday, dude, I dominated UFC.
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Speaker 2: I won probably eighty five percent of the fights.
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Speaker 5: Wait wait, wait, you're gambling again. Yeah, okay, yeah, just
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Speaker 5: making sure.
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Speaker 2: UFC man in usc I was likely. Let me just
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Speaker 2: put some money on this too. I hit everything I hit.
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Speaker 2: I think one five game basketball Parlay, No Namers Buffalo.
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Speaker 3: Why are you betting No Namers?
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Speaker 4: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: To me, I just feel like the big ones are
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Speaker 2: too unpredictable, the little ones. When it's Sam Heason State
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Speaker 2: versus Lamar, let's go Sam Houston State.
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Speaker 3: You don't even watch it?
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'll watch him. And that's when never wanted
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Speaker 2: to track him down. Well, my wife walks in and
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Speaker 2: I'm watching Sam Heuson State versus Lamar. She's like, how
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Speaker 2: much money do you have on this?
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Speaker 3: Nice?
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Speaker 2: But I so? I dude, I was probably up one
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Speaker 2: fifty on Saturday going into Sunday nice and then Rory
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Speaker 2: McElroy man ruined it for me. I thought for sure
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Speaker 2: he would come back and win that tournament.
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Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't watch anything.
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Speaker 4: Who won?
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Speaker 2: No Namer? So No Namer went into the Sunday with
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Speaker 2: like a six stroke lead behind Rory. Rory was like,
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Speaker 2: come on, did you can do this? He never could
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Speaker 2: catch up.
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Speaker 3: But how much you bet on that?
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Speaker 2: I bet twenty bucks on Rory to win and then
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Speaker 2: about halfway through Rory had two birdies. I'm like, oh,
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Speaker 2: he's got to win this. Put twenty more so I
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Speaker 2: put forty.
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Speaker 3: Back on that. That's that's that's a lot of you significant.
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Speaker 2: And then Nascar. I started putting money on all these drivers.
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Speaker 3: Because he's just u s and then golf and then NASCAR.
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Speaker 2: In college basketball, Tyler Reddick, may he wins another one?
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Speaker 3: He did. I thought it was a repost.
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Speaker 7: I saw that.
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Speaker 3: I thought it was a repost of that. He won
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Speaker 3: that NATO out.
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Speaker 2: Of I'm thinking, out of all the drivers, he's not
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Speaker 2: gonna win again, that's so rare. No, he won again.
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Speaker 2: Michael Jordan wins again.
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Speaker 3: To wow, did Michael grab kids butt again?
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Speaker 4: And they did not do that?
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Speaker 2: He wasn't near the kid.
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Speaker 3: I saw where Cooper cups NBA Cooper Cup, Cooper Flags
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Speaker 3: NBA jersey the first one he played him with for
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Speaker 3: a million bucks.
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Speaker 2: Wow, he didn't play that well that game.
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Speaker 3: But still Yeah, he didn't start as hot as Knipal did.
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Speaker 3: But now he's awesome. Cap is still really great too.
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Speaker 3: How the dude didn't win the national championship? Both those
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Speaker 3: guys on the team wild to me. Yeah, So but yeah,
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Speaker 3: Cooper Flag his game warn game one one million dollars.
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Speaker 3: He put up ten points, ten rebounds. It's a double double,
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Speaker 3: double double.
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Speaker 4: My bad.
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Speaker 3: The previous record for a jersey sold through NBA auctions
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Speaker 3: was Victor when Ben Yama's NBA debut seven sixty two.
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Speaker 3: But Cooper Flags. I think I'd still probably rather have
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Speaker 3: Wemb's thing.
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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, but.
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Speaker 3: One million bucks. Dang, you watching much NBA.
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Speaker 2: A little bit?
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Speaker 4: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: Well, just last night in the Lakers, Boston lost on
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Speaker 2: that one too. Dude, I was chasing, Okay, all right,
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Speaker 2: I was chasing. So after Rory lost, I'm like, come on,
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Speaker 2: I gotta make.
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Speaker 3: Some money back. Do you see the guy the poker
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Speaker 3: player that tours a c L Yes, the clip going
7:44
Speaker 3: yeah so this uh but it's a poker Yeah, but
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Speaker 3: it's a it's a viral clip that's going back around again.
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Speaker 3: But he's sitting at the table younger guy.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's an older clip, but it just I
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Speaker 3: saw and thought it was new when I first saw it.
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Speaker 3: But turns out his name is Justin Smith. You want
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Speaker 3: one one million dollars? This has been a while ago.
8:02
Speaker 3: He went all in, but he tore his a cl
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Speaker 3: because he was celebrating with his family. He kept playing
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Speaker 3: in the tournament. He put his leg up, iced it.
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Speaker 3: But yeah, he play the club, tear the.
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Speaker 4: Board, back to back double water fights, Justin Smith growing
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Speaker 4: out both times. Man to stay alive.
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Speaker 2: Look how excited that he is, his fans, his friends.
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Speaker 4: To wait a minute, manch something's wrong out there.
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Speaker 3: We'll operate it on tomorrow. There's something very wrong.
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Speaker 2: He's doubled over.
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Speaker 3: He's he's really in pain. Yeah, it's snou What the
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Speaker 3: this is no bluff. Let me tell you injury.
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Speaker 7: I called you. I called you this injury sport.
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Speaker 4: They said that poker is not a sport, but this is, well,
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Speaker 4: this is pretty serious. People are rushing to Justin's side.
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Speaker 3: I'm really hoping it will be okay. I mean, I'm
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Speaker 3: able to play.
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Speaker 4: I'll play it all turnman, officials will stopped the clock.
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Speaker 3: I thought it was new when it happened. But it's
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Speaker 3: funny regardless.
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Speaker 2: The announcers, they're so good. Oh that's a serious injury
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Speaker 2: there waiting second John.
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Speaker 3: He reminded me of dodgeball.
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Speaker 2: So and of course he can play through it like
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Speaker 2: he's just sitting there right.
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Speaker 3: No, but if it hurts and you've got a focus
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Speaker 3: and you're doing running odds, and I would say that's probably.
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Speaker 2: I think about the mental game.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but he was so far ahead after that that
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Speaker 3: he was like, I can I can finish out there.
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Speaker 3: Let's get over to our talk now with former NHL
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Speaker 3: executive and coach and current analyst Pierre McGuire. Pierre was
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Speaker 3: born in the US, raised in Canada. We talk about
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Speaker 3: that because I'm like, what's the deal who you're rooting for?
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Speaker 3: He gave a pretty good answer. He's either been coaching,
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Speaker 3: working in the front office, or covering hockey for almost
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Speaker 3: forty years. We're casuals. He spoke to us like we
9:43
Speaker 3: needed to be spoken to, right, Yeah, I like that.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: You can also check out his podcast and we talk
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Speaker 3: about that here. All right, here we go, big thanks
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Speaker 3: to Pierre for coming on here. He is the great
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Speaker 3: Pierre McGuire. Let us bring on now NHL analysts, former
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Speaker 3: NHL executive and coach and co host of the Sickest
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Speaker 3: NHL podcast, The Eye Test with Pierre McGuire and Jimmy Murphy.
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Speaker 3: Here he is Pierre McGuire, coach. Thank you for coming
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Speaker 3: on with us. We really appreciate it.
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Speaker 6: Nice to visit with the Bobby. Thanks for having me.
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Speaker 3: I want to tell you up front, I am a
10:16
Speaker 3: semi casual, so I'm going to ask dumb questions, but
10:19
Speaker 3: I just want to be really. I grew up in Arkansas,
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Speaker 3: I'm now the Preds are here. I've just been exposed
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Speaker 3: to hockey in the last few years. I have friends
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Speaker 3: that play in the NHL. But I'm learning. So all
10:29
Speaker 3: that to say, I'm kind of a dumb dumb so
10:31
Speaker 3: please accept me for what I am.
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Speaker 8: I just love the fact that you have passion even
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Speaker 8: want to talk about hockey.
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Speaker 6: So go for it, Bobby. It's my pleasure to be
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Speaker 6: on your show.
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Speaker 3: Okay, So we were having a little discussion about you
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Speaker 3: before you came on, because says you're raised in Quebec,
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Speaker 3: but also you were born up in the States. Who
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Speaker 3: are you rooting for.
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Speaker 8: The best team? Who ever won. I've gone through this
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Speaker 8: a lot, Bobby. I gotta tell you, I was born
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Speaker 8: in the same hospital on Engwood, New Jersey, that the
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Speaker 8: great Bill ourselves, the legendary football coach, was born in
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Speaker 8: called the Englewood Hospital. But when I was very young,
11:06
Speaker 8: my mother's French Canadian. We moved to Canada and I
11:09
Speaker 8: basically grew up there until my junior year in high school,
11:12
Speaker 8: when I went to play sports back in New Jersey
11:14
Speaker 8: at a big time.
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Speaker 6: School called Bird and Catholic High School.
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Speaker 8: So I've experienced both sides of the border, and I've
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Speaker 8: coached on both the American side and the Canadian side.
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Speaker 8: My children were born in Canada, but they are dual
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Speaker 8: citizens just like I am. My wife is French Canadian.
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Speaker 8: So I consider North America an amazing place. I'm proud
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Speaker 8: to be American. I'm proud to be Canadian.
11:35
Speaker 3: We also like North America, if we're being honest. We're
11:37
Speaker 3: big North America fans as well, because our show is
11:40
Speaker 3: also in Canada. Like so okay, good. Now that we
11:43
Speaker 3: have that established, I feel like I also did not
11:46
Speaker 3: grow up around a lot of soccer, but I think
11:47
Speaker 3: there have been a couple soccer matches in my life
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Speaker 3: where I look back and I think kids saw them
11:52
Speaker 3: growing up and it probably inspired them to play soccer,
11:55
Speaker 3: and then they remembered, oh I saw that. Do you
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Speaker 3: think this is that for American kids we're watching this game?
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Speaker 6: Yes, I do.
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Speaker 8: I was a freshman in college in the nineteen eighty
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Speaker 8: Olympic year, and I couldn't believe the passion. And I
12:08
Speaker 8: went to school in upstate New York, where obviously Lake
12:11
Speaker 8: Placid is, and back then we didn't even get to
12:13
Speaker 8: see that game between Rush and the United States live.
12:16
Speaker 8: It was on tape delay on ABC. So I saw
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Speaker 8: what that did for a generation of players. Not long
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Speaker 8: after I played professionally, and then I started coaching in college,
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Speaker 8: and that whole wave after the nineteen eighties, Billy Garron
12:30
Speaker 8: and Jeremy Ronick and Toniamonty and Brian Leech and Kevin Stevens.
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Speaker 6: I can go on and on, all.
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Speaker 8: These great American players, Mike Richter, the legendary goalie that
12:39
Speaker 8: won the Stanley Cup for the Rangers in nineteen ninety four, Bobby,
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Speaker 8: They're all product of that nineteen eighty team. I think
12:45
Speaker 8: this team will do very much the same for men's hockey,
12:48
Speaker 8: and I think the women's team.
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Speaker 9: Obviously that won gold in ninety eight and one gold
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Speaker 9: in twenty eighteen and just one gold in twenty twenty six,
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Speaker 9: I think the women's team is going to do the
12:58
Speaker 9: very same thing for the win athletes that want to
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Speaker 9: play hockey now.
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Speaker 3: I'm again, I'm a big Canadian fan because we just
13:04
Speaker 3: are where our show does well in Canada. So it's
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Speaker 3: a tough loss. I want to tell everybody, all my
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Speaker 3: Canadian friends, I love you. Tough loss. Okay. So getting
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Speaker 3: that out of the way, like that's got to hurt, right,
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Speaker 3: because that's like it's like Canadian's main sport, Canada's main sport, right, Oh.
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Speaker 8: No question, I mean again. I broadcast a twenty ten
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Speaker 8: gold medal game. I remember it like it was yesterday,
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Speaker 8: even though it was sixteen years ago and it was
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Speaker 8: a Sydney Crosby golden goal. I remember him yelling and
13:27
Speaker 8: screaming to Jerome again like Iggy, Iggy, Iggy passed me
13:31
Speaker 8: the pucket, Higgy gets in the puck and he beats
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Speaker 8: Ryan Miller. So the Americans, you know, tasted that very
13:36
Speaker 8: same defeat that the Canadians experienced in terms of a
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Speaker 8: victory in twenty ten. So I've been around it. I've
13:42
Speaker 8: seen it for both sides. It's very painful. People remember
13:45
Speaker 8: the Four Nations event from last year where the United
13:48
Speaker 8: States lost in overtime in Boston to Canada. It happens
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Speaker 8: when you go best on best is you know, Bobby,
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Speaker 8: anything can happen. These are amazing athletes that really represented
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Speaker 8: their countries unbelievably well.
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Speaker 6: Yesterday in the gold medal game.
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Speaker 3: I watched the four Nations and I watched them fight
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Speaker 3: at the very beginning. Now, how real was that? And
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Speaker 3: but how or how performative was the fight at the beginning?
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Speaker 6: Oh, it's real, it's real. See these two there, they're
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Speaker 6: not mine. Stuff like that happens. They're real.
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Speaker 8: And the truth is is that, you know, the Kachicks
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Speaker 8: wanted to make a statement, just like their father did
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Speaker 8: in nineteen ninety six when he was representing the United
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Speaker 8: States at what was then called the World Cup of
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Speaker 8: Hockey and they had a massive fight to start a
14:35
Speaker 8: game between Canada, the United States and Philadelphia. So that
14:38
Speaker 8: kind of stuff has happened before. It doesn't happen in
14:41
Speaker 8: the Olympics, just because if you fight in the Olympics,
14:43
Speaker 8: you're out of the game. So that's not going to
14:45
Speaker 8: happen in an Olympic event. But yeah, no, the fighting
14:47
Speaker 8: is real. It's not stage. I can tell you that.
14:49
Speaker 3: But these guys have to play together all the time
14:52
Speaker 3: like this happens, and now they have to go back
14:53
Speaker 3: and then continue playing some on the same teams.
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Speaker 8: Right.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 8: But you know what's interesting about hockey at the National
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Speaker 8: Hockey League level, Well, you build up this animosity towards
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Speaker 8: other teams or other players, and sometimes you get traded
15:06
Speaker 8: to that team that you might not like, or you
15:08
Speaker 8: get a player from a team that you don't like,
15:11
Speaker 8: and you don't like that player and he ends up
15:13
Speaker 8: being on your team. Brad Marshan is a great example,
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Speaker 8: played for Canada yesterday, gets traded by the Boston Bruins
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Speaker 8: to the Florida Panthers. Nobody liked Brad when he was
15:21
Speaker 8: in Boston if you were a Florida Panther, but as
15:23
Speaker 8: soon as he comes to your team and he helps
15:25
Speaker 8: you win a Stanley Cup, you think the world of
15:27
Speaker 8: the guy. That's just part of what happens in professional hockey.
15:30
Speaker 8: It's not one of those things where too many people
15:32
Speaker 8: take stuff personal and you just move along and go
15:34
Speaker 8: with the punches, so to speak.
15:36
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on the three on three in overtime?
15:39
Speaker 6: It's a fair question, it's actually a good question.
15:41
Speaker 8: I'd like to see them manipulated a little bit, maybe
15:43
Speaker 8: go to four on four rather than three on three,
15:46
Speaker 8: make it more of a hockey test than a skill
15:49
Speaker 8: or a speed test.
15:50
Speaker 6: But quite frankly, I thought.
15:51
Speaker 8: It was a tremendous drama on the women's side where
15:54
Speaker 8: we saw a three on three goal decide the gold
15:57
Speaker 8: medal game, in this case in favor of US, with
16:00
Speaker 8: Megan Keller just making a spectacular play for the US women.
16:03
Speaker 8: And I thought yesterday's goal from Jack Hughes was beautiful
16:07
Speaker 8: off the rush are great play by Zach Warensky.
16:09
Speaker 6: And so would I like to have three on three?
16:12
Speaker 6: Probably not? But is it the way the rules were
16:14
Speaker 6: set up yet?
16:14
Speaker 8: Is I'd like to see them probably try to compensate
16:17
Speaker 8: a little bit and maybe make it more of a hockey.
16:19
Speaker 6: Test, go to four on four rather than three on three.
16:22
Speaker 3: Is that four casuals so the game doesn't last an
16:25
Speaker 3: extreme long amount of time.
16:27
Speaker 6: I don't know.
16:28
Speaker 8: I wasn't in their room when they decided to go
16:31
Speaker 8: come up with that, So that had to be negotiated
16:33
Speaker 8: between the DOUBLEHF and probably the National Hockey League and
16:37
Speaker 8: all the sanctioning bodies.
16:38
Speaker 6: I wasn't in the room, so I don't know, but.
16:40
Speaker 8: I would just say it's the way we decide or
16:43
Speaker 8: try to decide games in the National Hockey League is
16:45
Speaker 8: by playing three on three, and maybe that was just
16:47
Speaker 8: a carryover from that.
16:49
Speaker 3: A lot of Canadians were complaining about it as it
16:53
Speaker 3: being a game seven, but didn't they have to win
16:55
Speaker 3: the quarters in overtime with a three on three as well?
16:58
Speaker 8: They most certainly did and highlight real iconic goal by
17:01
Speaker 8: Mitchell Marner of the Vegas goal. The Knights used to
17:04
Speaker 8: be obviously a key member of the Toronto Maple Leafs.
17:07
Speaker 8: There was no complaining after that goal went in, and
17:10
Speaker 8: that was a spectacular play by Mitchell Marner, by the way,
17:13
Speaker 8: to score that overtime winner against check In and quite frankly,
17:17
Speaker 8: look at you know, not Connor McDavid, excuse me Nathan
17:19
Speaker 8: McKinnon's goal in the semi final against Finland. That's with
17:23
Speaker 8: less than a minute to go on the power play.
17:25
Speaker 8: I don't think, you know, the Finns were too happy
17:27
Speaker 8: about losing.
17:27
Speaker 6: That way either. So there's always going to be.
17:30
Speaker 8: Debates, There's always going to be all kinds of kerfluffles
17:33
Speaker 8: that happened over the course of a hockey term, and
17:35
Speaker 8: I get it. The one thing I just want to say,
17:37
Speaker 8: out of respect This has nothing to do with politics.
17:40
Speaker 8: I think good portions of this event would have changed
17:42
Speaker 8: had the Russians been there and able to play.
17:45
Speaker 6: Has nothing to do with politics.
17:47
Speaker 8: I don't mean any disrespect to Ukraine, to Russia, out
17:50
Speaker 8: to anybody, but if the Russian hockey players were at
17:53
Speaker 8: this event, I think it might have changed the outcome
17:55
Speaker 8: a little bit.
17:56
Speaker 3: Do you think they would have won it?
17:57
Speaker 6: No, but I think they might have upset some that
18:00
Speaker 6: could have been in the gold medal game.
18:02
Speaker 3: What do you think about Sidney Crosby not being able
18:04
Speaker 3: to play? Do you think it would have changed the
18:06
Speaker 3: outcome of the game?
18:07
Speaker 8: I do, I do, And I've been saying this. I
18:09
Speaker 8: said it on NBC, I said it on CBS. I've
18:12
Speaker 8: said it in a lot of different shows I've been on.
18:15
Speaker 8: The truth is that Sydney was really a big part
18:17
Speaker 8: of their strength. The strength of their team was obviously
18:20
Speaker 8: Connor McDavid, Nathan McKinnon, Sidney Crosby. That kind of depth
18:24
Speaker 8: through the middle of the ice is hard to beat.
18:26
Speaker 8: Crosby centering a line with Mitchell, Marner and Mark Stone
18:29
Speaker 8: hugely important line fourteen Canada. Crosby goes down in the
18:33
Speaker 8: quarterfinal game against CHECKI after a hard hit by Rad
18:37
Speaker 8: Cogutis of the Anaheim Ducks, the captain of that team,
18:39
Speaker 8: by the way, and quite frankly, Bob, they Canada was
18:43
Speaker 8: never the same team after they lost SID.
18:45
Speaker 6: They just were not. SID is such an important part.
18:48
Speaker 8: So if you think about it, twenty ten scores a
18:50
Speaker 8: goal and goal twenty fourteen the leader of another goal
18:53
Speaker 8: medal winning team, and he and Drew Dowdy were the
18:56
Speaker 8: only two guys that were on this team Canada that
18:59
Speaker 8: had any kind of Olympic experience, and it was both
19:03
Speaker 8: times winning gold medals. They didn't have anybody else in
19:06
Speaker 8: that team that had ever played in the Olympics.
19:08
Speaker 3: Back in the day, Johnny Elway had lost a bunch
19:11
Speaker 3: of Super Bowls way early. It took him a while
19:12
Speaker 3: to come back and actually win a Super Bowl. But
19:14
Speaker 3: I feel like with Connor my David in the last
19:16
Speaker 3: two Stanley Cup finals and winning the silver. He did
19:19
Speaker 3: win the MVP, but I don't think that I don't
19:20
Speaker 3: think that probably matters to him. It's been a rough
19:23
Speaker 3: run for him as far as winning championships or gold medals.
19:26
Speaker 3: What do you think is Tyke's like right now?
19:27
Speaker 8: Oh?
19:28
Speaker 6: I feel badly for him.
19:29
Speaker 8: First of all, he's an unbelievable He's probably the best
19:32
Speaker 8: player we've ever seen at doing what he does, traveling
19:35
Speaker 8: at a high rate of speed with the puck on
19:37
Speaker 8: his stick, and still being able to process the game
19:39
Speaker 8: the way he does. As much of a goal scorer
19:41
Speaker 8: he is, he's a better playmaker. He's to do that
19:44
Speaker 8: at that rate of speed, almost thirty miles an hour
19:46
Speaker 8: and be able to process the game the way he
19:48
Speaker 8: does is just overwhelmingly amazing. He's obviously got a field
19:53
Speaker 8: mentally beat up a little bit. It can't be fun.
19:56
Speaker 6: You know.
19:56
Speaker 8: I've coached in two Stanley Cup finals and was fortunate
19:59
Speaker 8: enough to be part on the winning side twice. And
20:01
Speaker 8: I got to just tell you this, Bob. I said
20:04
Speaker 8: once to a person that's a very good friend of mine.
20:07
Speaker 8: I said, I could never imagine going this far over
20:09
Speaker 8: the course of a season and losing.
20:12
Speaker 6: And I've never had to experience that.
20:14
Speaker 8: He's had to do it two times in a row,
20:16
Speaker 8: plus lose an Olympic gold medal game. That's got to
20:18
Speaker 8: be just painful, unbelievably painful.
20:22
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's got to be very painful. If I were
20:25
Speaker 3: a candidate. I wouldn't have wanted the little stuffy they
20:26
Speaker 3: were passing out. Did you notice that that they were
20:29
Speaker 3: giving out the little stuffed animals.
20:32
Speaker 6: I don't really cat, thank you, So when they.
20:35
Speaker 3: Were giving them the silvers, they were passing out the
20:36
Speaker 3: little stuffed animal with the silvers. You know, I think
20:39
Speaker 3: you read the room, and maybe you don't. You don't
20:41
Speaker 3: give the stuff. Also, they left them out there way
20:43
Speaker 3: too long. I feel like, if you lose, you should
20:44
Speaker 3: be able to go back into the locker room and
20:46
Speaker 3: then come out. That sucks to have to sit out there,
20:48
Speaker 3: regardless of who you are.
20:49
Speaker 8: No, it's a fair point. It is a fair point.
20:51
Speaker 8: I've been in the World Championships a lot. They do
20:53
Speaker 8: the very same thing. It's agonizing, there's no question. Same
20:57
Speaker 8: thing happened in the women's game. By the way. You know,
20:59
Speaker 8: you go to overtime and you lose a game, and
21:01
Speaker 8: if you're Canny, you're sitting there and if you're Mary
21:03
Speaker 8: Philip Pulan, probably the best female player in the world
21:07
Speaker 8: and for sure the best Canadian woman ever. You see
21:11
Speaker 8: her reaction, I mean, she's just so beaten down. Is
21:14
Speaker 8: painful to watch, and so yeah, it's you know how
21:17
Speaker 8: they used to say the agony and defeat, and you
21:19
Speaker 8: could see the agony defeat yesterday.
21:21
Speaker 6: That was tough to watch.
21:22
Speaker 3: Yeah, I felt bad for them having to stay out
21:24
Speaker 3: there the whole time because there was a good fifteen
21:26
Speaker 3: minutes where they could have walked back into the locker room. Also,
21:30
Speaker 3: something else had a beef with they should have had
21:31
Speaker 3: the third place team out there, like you should have
21:33
Speaker 3: been waiting to come out and accept your bronze medal.
21:36
Speaker 9: You know.
21:36
Speaker 8: Part of I think I could be wrong on this
21:39
Speaker 8: part of it is a lot of those players that
21:40
Speaker 8: were on the finished team, their NHL players. As soon
21:44
Speaker 8: as they got their medals, they probably moved on. They
21:46
Speaker 8: probably really moved on to their NHL teams. The NHL
21:50
Speaker 8: schedule starts in full on Wednesday night, so to get
21:53
Speaker 8: from me long, let's say too, for the sake of argument.
21:56
Speaker 6: La or Santalse, it's not around the corner.
21:59
Speaker 8: So I think a lot of the guys and ladies,
22:01
Speaker 8: by the way, once their events were done, they bolted
22:05
Speaker 8: because the Professional Women's Hockey League starts again soon too.
22:08
Speaker 8: So I think that's probably why you didn't see that
22:10
Speaker 8: with the bronze medal winning team.
22:12
Speaker 3: I'm curious the culture of playing for your country in
22:15
Speaker 3: the Olympics, because, as you know, in American basketball, some
22:17
Speaker 3: of the guys just don't want to do it, and
22:19
Speaker 3: they're like, you know, I don't want to do it.
22:20
Speaker 3: I don't want to go play for the USA team
22:21
Speaker 3: because it's too much work, so they don't do it.
22:24
Speaker 3: Does that happen at all in you in international hockey
22:27
Speaker 3: or does everybody really want to play for their national team?
22:30
Speaker 6: They want to play for their national team. I'll tell you.
22:32
Speaker 8: After the twenty fourteen Olympic Games in Sochia, I was
22:35
Speaker 8: there and I was about to get on our charter
22:37
Speaker 8: back to the United States, and an NHL official came
22:40
Speaker 8: up to me in the lobby of the hotel right after,
22:44
Speaker 8: you know, the Americans had been eliminated. Cannon ends up
22:47
Speaker 8: beating Sweden in the gold medal game, and this NHL
22:50
Speaker 8: official said, I hope you enjoyed this Olympics. I go,
22:52
Speaker 8: why is that? He goes, NHL is never coming back.
22:54
Speaker 8: I said what I said, Nope, We're not coming back
22:57
Speaker 8: to the Olympics anymore. I said, well, that's really shortsighted.
23:00
Speaker 8: I think that's a massive mistake. In my thirty seven
23:02
Speaker 8: years in the National Hockey League are being around it.
23:04
Speaker 8: I've never once been angry at the league. I was
23:07
Speaker 8: really angry at the league for that, and they didn't
23:09
Speaker 8: go back in twenty eighteen, and they didn't go back
23:11
Speaker 8: in twenty twenty two. I can tell you one of
23:14
Speaker 8: the things they used in collective bargaining the NHL players
23:17
Speaker 8: and the NHL to get to this labor armony we
23:19
Speaker 8: have now is he put a lot of the rests
23:22
Speaker 8: about Olympic participation. The players, to a man, wanted to go,
23:26
Speaker 8: and if they couldn't get back to the Olympics, they
23:28
Speaker 8: probably were not going to have the labor harmony that
23:31
Speaker 8: they have right now. So good on the players. They
23:33
Speaker 8: really are passionate about representing their countries. They don't get
23:36
Speaker 8: paid to do this, and I think it's fantastic. I
23:40
Speaker 8: love Olympic hockey and I'm really proud of the both
23:43
Speaker 8: American and Canadian women and the American and Canadian men.
23:47
Speaker 8: They put on two amazing performances in gold medal games,
23:50
Speaker 8: all four of those teams.
23:52
Speaker 3: What I found interesting watching yesterday was during the face off,
23:56
Speaker 3: they would then get the Canadian guy off like, he's
23:58
Speaker 3: so good, you have to tell me all about that,
24:00
Speaker 3: because they would you face off, and they would you
24:02
Speaker 3: just ran off the ice, especially during the three on three.
24:04
Speaker 3: Is he that good at that?
24:07
Speaker 8: Well, you're talking about Sam Bennett or Bullhorvet. They're both
24:10
Speaker 8: pretty good at face off. So the answers, yes, Uh.
24:14
Speaker 8: The Americans do this very same thing with Vinnie Trocheck.
24:17
Speaker 8: So the answers, yeah, they call them fogos and lacrosse.
24:19
Speaker 6: And so yeah, that's stuff. Stuff happens face off, guys.
24:23
Speaker 6: It's become pretty prominent.
24:25
Speaker 8: Puck possession matters a lot in three on three, so
24:28
Speaker 8: winning the initial draw helps a lot.
24:30
Speaker 3: You mentioned if you fight during the Olympics, you're out
24:32
Speaker 3: of the game. So are there no need for the
24:34
Speaker 3: what I enforcer type players at the Olympics?
24:37
Speaker 8: There I have as far as I know, and I've
24:39
Speaker 8: been going to the Olympics since two thousand and two.
24:42
Speaker 6: This is an eighth one I've covered.
24:45
Speaker 8: I would just tell you straight up, Bob, there's never
24:48
Speaker 8: been just a thug that's been going. I'm on an
24:50
Speaker 8: Olympic roster. They can't, they can't play at that level.
24:53
Speaker 8: So you need physicality, you need tough.
24:56
Speaker 6: Guys you need.
24:57
Speaker 8: Guys are going to perform certain roles when comes to checking.
25:01
Speaker 8: But in terms of just one dimensional players that are
25:03
Speaker 8: thugs now they don't play in the Olympics.
25:05
Speaker 3: Can you talk about the American goalkeeping performance yesterday because
25:09
Speaker 3: it seemed like that was pretty legit.
25:11
Speaker 6: What a great question.
25:12
Speaker 8: Connor Hallibuck from Alpina, Michigan, thrilled to dead played at
25:15
Speaker 8: UMass Lowell. Never a highly recruited player, played in a
25:19
Speaker 8: real high level league Hockey East in US College Division
25:23
Speaker 8: one hockey.
25:24
Speaker 6: So happy for him.
25:25
Speaker 8: He's never really had a chance to win at the
25:27
Speaker 8: NHL level, even though he's had unbelievable individual awards like
25:31
Speaker 8: three ves in the Trophy, he's an MVP of the
25:33
Speaker 8: league and all that stuff. It's amazing. His resume looks
25:36
Speaker 8: great except for the winning part. I think we can
25:39
Speaker 8: put the bed now the doubt that he can't win
25:41
Speaker 8: the big game. That performance just today was all world
25:43
Speaker 8: It was as good as any Olympic goaltending performance I've
25:46
Speaker 8: seen since nineteen eighty with Jim Craig. That was just
25:49
Speaker 8: a fantastic piece of work by Connor Hallibakina's family and
25:53
Speaker 8: all this teammate should be so proud of that.
25:55
Speaker 3: This is going to be a dumb guy question, but
25:57
Speaker 3: do goaltenders usually have great vision? I mean, like literal vision.
26:01
Speaker 3: Is that a part of it?
26:02
Speaker 6: Absolutely?
26:03
Speaker 8: If you really watch and you're trying to scout goalies,
26:06
Speaker 8: that's one of the things you watch for. How they
26:08
Speaker 8: track the pluck, how they read the play, can they
26:10
Speaker 8: track long shots?
26:11
Speaker 6: Can they what's their reaction time? Intight? One of the
26:14
Speaker 6: cool things, Bob.
26:15
Speaker 8: If you really want to watch, and I know a
26:17
Speaker 8: lot of TV people do this, watch how Connor Hellibuck
26:20
Speaker 8: prepares before a game. He'll sit on his bench and
26:23
Speaker 8: he'll just do eye muscle exercises. I'm not kidding you,
26:26
Speaker 8: and you'll track things and you'll see him moving his
26:28
Speaker 8: head and moving his eyes, moving his sead and moving
26:30
Speaker 8: his eyes. It's unbelievable to watch. So the answer is, yes,
26:33
Speaker 8: vision really matters for goalies.
26:34
Speaker 3: As far as gold medal games, how does this ranking
26:37
Speaker 3: games that you've seen.
26:38
Speaker 8: As good as I've ever seen? Twenty ten was phenomenal
26:40
Speaker 8: in Vancouver. The pressure on the Canadians to win, especially
26:44
Speaker 8: in their own building, was huge. The fact that the
26:46
Speaker 8: Americans came from behind and force in overtime was mammoth
26:50
Speaker 8: and then you had the you know, the drama of
26:52
Speaker 8: the Sydney Crosby golden goal in Vancouver. You know, like
26:55
Speaker 8: I said, I've coached in a lot of big games.
26:57
Speaker 8: I've broadcast sixteen straight Stanley Cup finals, do any Olympics
27:00
Speaker 8: a lot of stuff.
27:02
Speaker 6: That reaction in Vancouver was pretty special. So those are.
27:05
Speaker 8: Probably two of the better male games I've seen. The
27:09
Speaker 8: twenty fourteen women's gold medal game and SOCI was off
27:12
Speaker 8: the charts. It was unbelievable, great come from behind win
27:15
Speaker 8: for Canada. The twenty eighteen women's goal medal game in
27:18
Speaker 8: Korea was crazy good with the Lamberers sisters Megan Duggan
27:23
Speaker 8: performing so well, Maddie Rooney and netfor Team USA, they
27:26
Speaker 8: wanted to shootout. So this would be right up there
27:29
Speaker 8: with all of the great Olympic games I've had a
27:32
Speaker 8: chance to watch. Absolutely.
27:33
Speaker 3: So tell me about your podcast. It's called The Sick
27:35
Speaker 3: This is what I have written in front of me,
27:37
Speaker 3: The Sick Podcast, the Eye Tests. What's the name of
27:41
Speaker 3: is it the Sick Podcasters of the Eye Test?
27:44
Speaker 6: The name of our show is the eye Test.
27:45
Speaker 8: The Sick Podcast Network is who we work for at all,
27:49
Speaker 8: and so it's actually.
27:50
Speaker 6: Jimmy Murphy and I started that three years ago. It's
27:52
Speaker 6: been fun.
27:53
Speaker 8: I also do another one for One Team Media in
27:57
Speaker 8: Pittsburgh called Inside the Game, and it's been phenomenal to
28:01
Speaker 8: be a part of that company, and so I enjoyed
28:04
Speaker 8: doing it.
28:05
Speaker 6: It's fun.
28:06
Speaker 8: I love talking about hockey. I love trying to build
28:08
Speaker 8: the brand of the sport, and I did it for
28:11
Speaker 8: a long time and I don't want to stop anytime soon.
28:13
Speaker 8: I just really loved being around the game and trying
28:16
Speaker 8: to tell stories about people in the game.
28:18
Speaker 3: Well, I hope everybody checks out the eye test, and
28:19
Speaker 3: I bet you there'll be a lot of people listening, because,
28:21
Speaker 3: like I'm super interested now right. I think this was
28:23
Speaker 3: good for me as an American to learn more about
28:26
Speaker 3: hockey because I normally don't. I did go. I'll tell
28:28
Speaker 3: you this, I did go. I've been to some Preds
28:30
Speaker 3: games and I did go to Game seven when the
28:32
Speaker 3: Preds loss to Pittsburgh, and as a pretty brutal that's
28:35
Speaker 3: a pretty brutal day, coach, I'll be honest with you.
28:37
Speaker 8: I was broadcasting that game, so I remember Clears Day.
28:40
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's okay.
28:42
Speaker 3: That kind of sucked. It's a bad day around here. Yeah,
28:45
Speaker 3: not a good experience for your boy here, Coach, thank
28:48
Speaker 3: you so much for being on. I hope I did
28:50
Speaker 3: okay and asking questions. It didn't make me seem like
28:52
Speaker 3: a complete idiot.
28:54
Speaker 6: Bobby.
28:54
Speaker 8: You guys had my number now, Mike can get in
28:56
Speaker 8: touch with me anytime.
28:57
Speaker 6: Be my pleasure to come on your show. I really
28:59
Speaker 6: enjoyed it.
28:59
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Thank you, coach. I have a
29:01
Speaker 3: great rest of the day. Eddie thinks that we may
29:05
Speaker 3: have been going too hard on you cabin. Oh, okay,
29:08
Speaker 3: change the guard here.
29:09
Speaker 2: I'd like to apologize.
29:10
Speaker 3: Okay, what about we?
29:11
Speaker 2: I think we made too much fun of you over
29:13
Speaker 2: your compass tattoo.
29:14
Speaker 3: Now we I almost never did. I almost never did.
29:18
Speaker 3: No you did.
29:19
Speaker 2: I remember on the golf course, I didn't even know
29:21
Speaker 2: about it. Where did that ball go? Can you check
29:23
Speaker 2: your compass on?
29:24
Speaker 3: You had that compass tattoo on his leg and Eddie
29:26
Speaker 3: would bring attention to it and make fun of it
29:28
Speaker 3: a lot. That was like two years ago, So that
29:29
Speaker 3: was a while ago.
29:30
Speaker 2: We were staying in San Francisco. I looked at he
29:32
Speaker 2: was like wearing shorts and I go, dude, what's happening
29:35
Speaker 2: with your tattoos?
29:36
Speaker 3: As you were lost right and you were like, I
29:37
Speaker 3: need to find any way back to the hotel.
29:39
Speaker 2: See there it is, there it is, And he goes, yeah, man,
29:43
Speaker 2: I'm getting it removed. I'm like what, I'm so sorry.
29:47
Speaker 3: Do you think it's because of you?
29:48
Speaker 7: Yeah?
29:48
Speaker 2: We made fun of you.
29:49
Speaker 6: Yeah.
29:49
Speaker 3: Oh no.
29:50
Speaker 5: I've had this for what ten years now, I've gotten
29:53
Speaker 5: a lot of flak for it.
29:54
Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong. I have one on each calf
29:57
Speaker 3: and full transparency. I don't like either of them.
29:59
Speaker 5: I get the other one removed because it's color and
30:01
Speaker 5: you can't remove color fully. If I'm gonna do it,
30:03
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna do it unless it's fully. So it
30:05
Speaker 5: has nothing to do with you, guys. It's just now,
30:08
Speaker 5: or a couple of years ago. When I started this,
30:10
Speaker 5: I had a little extra money and I was like,
30:11
Speaker 5: you know what, I think it's time and it's taken
30:13
Speaker 5: a long time and a lot of pain.
30:15
Speaker 3: Oh it hurts, Oh my god, so bad worse than
30:18
Speaker 3: getting it. Yes, And the more sessions you go, like,
30:20
Speaker 3: the deeper you get in it, the worse it gets,
30:22
Speaker 3: so like it gets deeper and deeper. They tell you that,
30:24
Speaker 3: are you worried that because it's going away, you're gonna
30:27
Speaker 3: get lost? Going to get it removed? Sometimes I worry
30:30
Speaker 3: about that, But they have GPS.
30:31
Speaker 2: Now I was going in the right direction.
30:36
Speaker 3: Last time I knew where I was going. It's so gone.
30:38
Speaker 3: Oh crap. Why'd you get a tattoo anyway?
30:42
Speaker 5: I was in your spring break? No, yeah, I was
30:45
Speaker 5: in Greece and I was like, I want to get
30:46
Speaker 5: a tattooed. And I was like, cool, travel and compass,
30:48
Speaker 5: And then the next thing though, yeah, and then the
30:51
Speaker 5: next day I went and got it, and then it's like.
30:52
Speaker 3: Man, I probably should have thought about that a little
30:54
Speaker 3: bit more.
30:56
Speaker 2: It was like, you're a traveler, that's what it's significed.
30:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess you know. It's one of those cliches.
31:00
Speaker 3: Things were like, yeah, that's something a good idea, and
31:01
Speaker 3: then you get in you're like, yeah, this is cool,
31:03
Speaker 3: and then like a couple of months later, you're like,
31:06
Speaker 3: it's all right, what's on the other calf the California?
31:09
Speaker 3: Do you like that? Or you that's okay? Could you
31:11
Speaker 3: turn it into like Tom Brady's face or something? What
31:16
Speaker 3: you turn it into if you had to. I don't know.
31:20
Speaker 5: Those are the worst. Can I make a suggestionful tattoos? Yeah,
31:23
Speaker 5: the Obrian Trophy, the Dave O'Brien, the NBA NBA Oh,
31:30
Speaker 5: I guess the same.
31:30
Speaker 3: Shape, like you could turn it in. Put the Celtics
31:33
Speaker 3: something around Celtic eighteen time and then every time they win.
31:36
Speaker 3: I get in ad you just do yeah, like slots
31:41
Speaker 3: that is, that's not a bad idea. Actually people do
31:44
Speaker 3: something like that.
31:45
Speaker 5: I did see a Cowboys fan get there, gonna get
31:49
Speaker 5: one covered.
31:50
Speaker 3: He got his back covered the other day. It's his
31:51
Speaker 3: Chiefs on it.
31:52
Speaker 4: Now?
31:54
Speaker 2: Does that? What happened?
31:57
Speaker 5: And you had a cow it's a Cowboys on the top,
31:59
Speaker 5: like his whole bad and then it had a helmet
32:01
Speaker 5: of the Cowboys on his back and he got it
32:03
Speaker 5: covered up and it's a big chief now and then
32:05
Speaker 5: it's not Kansas City Chiefs.
32:07
Speaker 6: Yeah.
32:07
Speaker 3: Why did he twitch teams? I don't know. It didn't.
32:10
Speaker 3: I just saw the video. I didn't look too much
32:12
Speaker 3: into it.
32:13
Speaker 4: Got it.
32:13
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was funny.
32:14
Speaker 2: You know, like two of my kids they like there
32:17
Speaker 2: are two that are Cowboys fans. They're always going to
32:19
Speaker 2: be Cowboys fans. But there are two that like just
32:20
Speaker 2: depends on who's good. Oh, Seattle's doing good, we're gonna
32:22
Speaker 2: be Seahawks fans. And I have a heart, Like I'm
32:25
Speaker 2: trying to tell him how important it is to not
32:27
Speaker 2: grow up like that. Like, guys, you don't want to
32:30
Speaker 2: be like that. You're not gonna have friends growing up.
32:32
Speaker 2: If you become a fan like that, that changes teams
32:35
Speaker 2: all the time, right, Isn't that okay?
32:38
Speaker 3: So I would say yes, But if you were in
32:41
Speaker 3: a place where you had a winning team and you
32:43
Speaker 3: had an allegiance to that winning team, that would be
32:45
Speaker 3: your team. They are unlucky to live where the Titans
32:48
Speaker 3: are during their formidable years, and the Titans suck. Yeah,
32:51
Speaker 3: so they might be a little bit because they have
32:52
Speaker 3: friends whose dad's player because they're down the road, but
32:54
Speaker 3: they're not gonna be dire Titans fans because they suck.
32:56
Speaker 3: You're a Cowboys fan, right one, because you're in Texas.
32:58
Speaker 3: But they were winning when you were a kid.
33:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, but still we're still but they.
33:02
Speaker 3: Were winning, you don't know, and they have access to
33:04
Speaker 3: all games.
33:05
Speaker 4: Now.
33:05
Speaker 3: You didn't have that growing up. You had one channel,
33:08
Speaker 3: two channels that showed So it's just it's different. And also,
33:12
Speaker 3: if the Titans were really good and they were really
33:13
Speaker 3: swept up in it, I think that would matter too.
33:15
Speaker 2: Okay, But but at some point they have to stop
33:17
Speaker 2: changing teams, right, Yeah, Like I.
33:19
Speaker 3: Get to an age they don't have to do You
33:21
Speaker 3: like that guy that like shows up to the no,
33:24
Speaker 3: But I don't have a guy in my life that's nine.
33:27
Speaker 2: But that's what I'm saying. I know, but that's what
33:31
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Like, I thought you were a Cowboys fan. Nah, dude,
33:33
Speaker 2: I don't like the Texans now.
33:34
Speaker 5: Man, what's the worse the guy that like keeps switching
33:36
Speaker 5: teams or the guy that doesn't have a team but
33:38
Speaker 5: makes fun of your team when he loses.
33:39
Speaker 2: The guy to switches teams?
33:41
Speaker 3: Really because I don't have a team.
33:42
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you don't like, But I don't make fun
33:44
Speaker 5: of you, don't make fun of I lose so much with.
33:46
Speaker 3: All my teams. I always feel bad for people when
33:49
Speaker 3: they lose. Yeah, if I had, like if I was
33:51
Speaker 3: an Ohio State fan, maybe be different. But I lose
33:54
Speaker 3: all the time.
33:54
Speaker 2: You're right, man, you have a lot of opportunities to
33:56
Speaker 2: make fun of me for being a Cowboys fan. But
33:58
Speaker 2: you don't I cry for you with you. Yeah, I
34:00
Speaker 2: appreciate empathy. It's very nice.
34:02
Speaker 3: Nobody loses more than me. It sucks. Yeah, I did
34:05
Speaker 3: see a car today.
34:05
Speaker 5: I had a Brown's logo in Ohio state like tang
34:08
Speaker 5: and Browns fanily at least Ohio.
34:11
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, yeah, I don't have any. I don't have
34:14
Speaker 3: any of those because I'm a Cubs fan.
34:16
Speaker 4: We won once.
34:17
Speaker 2: What are you thinking about your your Razorbacks basketball team?
34:20
Speaker 3: Did you guys win?
34:21
Speaker 4: The other night?
34:21
Speaker 2: I was watching a little bit of which Wow, Missouri
34:23
Speaker 2: they want?
34:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, we want? Okay, Yeah, it's crazy because I didn't.
34:25
Speaker 3: I don't bet. I'll bet Arkansas games, but I will
34:29
Speaker 3: if they're a favorite. I'm never betting the spread because
34:31
Speaker 3: I don't want to be happy they won but sad
34:33
Speaker 3: they didn't cover. I would never do that. And they were,
34:36
Speaker 3: I believe a ten point favorite or maybe nine and
34:39
Speaker 3: a half. And Missouri scored the most garbage bucket with
34:42
Speaker 3: one second left to now yeah, arcas, I did even
34:47
Speaker 3: play defense. They were just like it's over. So they
34:49
Speaker 3: were just dribbling down. Whatever Missouri guy goes and shoots,
34:51
Speaker 3: the lay up makes it. And I could see some
34:53
Speaker 3: people being like, oh, but that's why I don't, because
34:55
Speaker 3: I don't want there to be any smart anger in
34:57
Speaker 3: my heart. I think that we It's first of all,
35:01
Speaker 3: I think we win the championship, but really I think
35:03
Speaker 3: we could make it to the lad eight if everything
35:07
Speaker 3: we have a top five player in the country, regardless
35:10
Speaker 3: of freshmen or not. Does that Brazil or now Darius Aka? Okay,
35:13
Speaker 3: so yeah, one of our best players have got hurt. Well,
35:17
Speaker 3: one of our contributors just got hurt, Carter knocks. But
35:19
Speaker 3: I think that we could. We could make it to
35:21
Speaker 3: the lead DA if we did a decent draw.
35:24
Speaker 4: Okay.
35:24
Speaker 3: So that's where your expectations are as of right now.
35:27
Speaker 3: I don't have expectations, okay, but.
35:29
Speaker 2: If you were forced to say something, that's you would say.
35:31
Speaker 3: If I were going to bet how far that we
35:33
Speaker 3: would go? I would go Elite eight. Anything past that
35:36
Speaker 3: amazing the bonus.
35:37
Speaker 5: Yeah, are you gonna go to the SEC tournament at all?
35:39
Speaker 5: It's here again, I assume it's here.
35:40
Speaker 4: It is.
35:41
Speaker 3: I've never not gone. That's true, and we'll probably as
35:44
Speaker 3: long as we play. We play Florida. They're really good.
35:49
Speaker 3: They're they're leading the SEC. We're second they're first, but
35:52
Speaker 3: they're up with two games. Uh, they're really good, and
35:54
Speaker 3: we play them in Gainesville I think Wednesday. Yeah, CC
35:59
Speaker 3: is good. Yeah, we're good. I mean Arkansas's good. That's good. Yeah,
36:04
Speaker 3: Tennessee is getting good now, like they're kind of growing
36:06
Speaker 3: that it meant freshman, Yeah, he's he played terrible against US.
36:10
Speaker 3: He was just like fish out of water, but now
36:12
Speaker 3: he's starting to be played really well. Who else Vanderbilt's
36:17
Speaker 3: good in Spurts they're just too white.
36:20
Speaker 2: Hmm, you mean like you mean like that.
36:24
Speaker 3: Yeah, they just don't have athleticism, they don't have big
36:26
Speaker 3: they're just they're just they're just too slow something.
36:30
Speaker 2: I see what you're saying.
36:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it makes sense. Ye, it's all like
36:34
Speaker 3: one or two. But it's like Perdue, Like Perdue always
36:37
Speaker 3: plays well until they got to play somebody that's actually
36:39
Speaker 3: has real athletes.
36:41
Speaker 2: Remember that Princeton team a couple of years ago. They
36:43
Speaker 2: went pretty far into you know, they.
36:44
Speaker 3: Played slow, they played they just played back and played
36:49
Speaker 3: slow and keep away. You know, you only have so
36:51
Speaker 3: many white guys. Yeah, it's true.
36:57
Speaker 2: I don't know.
36:58
Speaker 3: What you are You.
37:02
Speaker 4: All right?
37:02
Speaker 3: Speaking of basketball, let's talk to NBA Hall of Fame
37:05
Speaker 3: guard Tim Hardaway. It's Tim Hardaway Senior. Now, yeah, because
37:09
Speaker 3: the Sun plays. But he's got a book called Killer Crossover.
37:12
Speaker 3: He's known for his crossover. Back in the day, NBA
37:14
Speaker 3: Jam played it with him. Five time All Star, the
37:16
Speaker 3: Heat retired as number ten Jersey. What's crazy. I don't
37:19
Speaker 3: think of him as a Heat player. I think of
37:21
Speaker 3: him as a warrior player. See and I only think
37:22
Speaker 3: of him as a Heat player. Yeah, age, big thanks
37:26
Speaker 3: to Tim for coming on here. He is Tim Hardaway Sr.
37:29
Speaker 3: Let's welcome on, Tim Hardaway Senior. He's got a book
37:31
Speaker 3: called Killer Crossover. I just want to start so I
37:33
Speaker 3: don't forget to say this, Tim, I played with you
37:36
Speaker 3: on NBA Jam all the time, like you and Mullin.
37:40
Speaker 3: I've played with you guys all the time. Do you
37:42
Speaker 3: hear that from people in a certain age range?
37:44
Speaker 7: Yes, we do.
37:47
Speaker 3: You could dunk, you could shoot whenever you were playing ball.
37:51
Speaker 3: Was that cool for you guys?
37:52
Speaker 1: You know what people to say. I could dunk on there.
37:55
Speaker 1: I've seen myself dunk on there. I played with myself
37:59
Speaker 1: on there with Chris and Mitch. I have seen other
38:02
Speaker 1: people play with us, and you know, it's a lot
38:07
Speaker 1: of fun. It is a lot of fun, and a
38:10
Speaker 1: lot of these guys and they real big fans of
38:14
Speaker 1: doing those video games and all that. When I see
38:17
Speaker 1: them working their stick or working them with their thumbs
38:21
Speaker 1: and they hands and all that, it's amazing because you know,
38:24
Speaker 1: we went out there and played basketball, you know, our thumbs.
38:28
Speaker 1: A lot of guys had to stop playing it because
38:30
Speaker 1: carpor tunnel or or or you had your thumbs and
38:34
Speaker 1: everything was hurting.
38:35
Speaker 7: So, yeah, you had to be careful.
38:36
Speaker 3: With that growing up in Chicago, and you end up
38:39
Speaker 3: going to utub which I don't I don't know why
38:42
Speaker 3: you chose you tip. I'm sure there are a lot
38:43
Speaker 3: of reasons. But was the dream to go to the
38:46
Speaker 3: NBA was just to play college ball because that was
38:49
Speaker 3: the next step.
38:49
Speaker 1: So when I was coming out of high school, I
38:51
Speaker 1: was was not recruited. I was not recruited. Not one
38:56
Speaker 1: Division one team recruited me. Not even Division two team
39:01
Speaker 1: recruited me. They thought I was too small, and I
39:04
Speaker 1: never went to camps that All American Camp, Nike All
39:09
Speaker 1: American Camp, or this camp here or that camp there.
39:13
Speaker 7: You had to have sponsors, as they used to call them.
39:15
Speaker 1: You had to have some people that would was, you know,
39:18
Speaker 1: paid three four, five, six, seven hundred dollars for you
39:22
Speaker 1: to go. I didn't have nobody that that would pay
39:25
Speaker 1: for me to go. And I never asked nobody to
39:29
Speaker 1: pay for me to go, because if I thought I belonged,
39:31
Speaker 1: I thought that somebody would send me or somebody would
39:34
Speaker 1: sponsor me. So I just left it alone. So I
39:37
Speaker 1: stayed at home. It was the best of both worlds
39:39
Speaker 1: for me. I stayed at home and played with guys
39:42
Speaker 1: like Ricky Green that was with you know, the Golden
39:45
Speaker 1: State Warriors or the Utah Jazz. Then I played with
39:49
Speaker 1: guys with like Mo Cheeks and Doc Rivers and all
39:53
Speaker 1: overseas guys Carl Knicks. You know, I played with those
39:57
Speaker 1: guys all the time during the summer, so I was
40:00
Speaker 1: I was really learning professional basketball when I was playing
40:04
Speaker 1: with these guys in Chicago at different parks, different rec
40:08
Speaker 1: leagues and stuff like that. So when people came back
40:12
Speaker 1: and they was they came back and had all this gear,
40:15
Speaker 1: all this Nike gee, all this deepest gear and all
40:17
Speaker 1: this and all that.
40:18
Speaker 7: I didn't have none of that.
40:19
Speaker 1: I just had my just a little small bag and
40:22
Speaker 1: I was just going out here playing. They was like, man,
40:25
Speaker 1: what you doing. I said, Man, I'm playing against real pros.
40:29
Speaker 1: I'm not playing against these other guys y'all going for
40:31
Speaker 1: I'm playing against real pros. And I'm holding my own
40:35
Speaker 1: against real pros. And they're like wow. And you know,
40:40
Speaker 1: as I got better, as I got better, they saw
40:43
Speaker 1: and they was like, you know, we probably making a mistake.
40:47
Speaker 6: You know.
40:48
Speaker 7: But a guy named Russ Bradford used to keep in
40:51
Speaker 7: touch with me. He's from Chicago, from the North Side.
40:55
Speaker 1: And somebody said, yo, man, you know you need to
40:58
Speaker 1: look at this guy named Tim Harder.
41:00
Speaker 7: I think he'd be good for textall Passo. And he was.
41:03
Speaker 1: He was an assistant coach, and he was a scout that
41:05
Speaker 1: Texas old Passle and he can't even watch me play
41:08
Speaker 1: all summer along, all summer alone for about two summers,
41:13
Speaker 1: and he watched me and here and I was the
41:16
Speaker 1: last guy that Don Haskins went to go and recruit,
41:20
Speaker 1: watching me at practice, watching me at a game, and
41:23
Speaker 1: he offered me a contract.
41:25
Speaker 7: That's how I got to l Passle.
41:26
Speaker 1: And and you know, it was a blessing in disguise
41:28
Speaker 1: because I need to get away from Chicago. I need
41:31
Speaker 1: to get as far as well from Chicago and do
41:33
Speaker 1: my own thing and find my own path and find myself.
41:38
Speaker 1: And the Old Passo was the greatest place. It's well
41:44
Speaker 1: kept secret. And I keep telling folks that if you
41:46
Speaker 1: want to get away and get your mind together and
41:50
Speaker 1: get your life together, go to l Pastor.
41:52
Speaker 7: They great people, genuine people. You don't have to worry
41:57
Speaker 7: about nobody.
41:58
Speaker 1: Lying to you, stealing from you. They take care of you,
42:03
Speaker 1: that listen to you to help you. And it's just
42:07
Speaker 1: genuine there. Man, just really really genuine there. It was
42:11
Speaker 1: just great for me. I tell folks that all the time.
42:14
Speaker 1: They're like, what Old Passo texts. I'm like, yes, So
42:17
Speaker 1: that's how I got the Old pass On. And I
42:19
Speaker 1: just had to wait my turn. You know, Patience is
42:21
Speaker 1: a virtue. I just wanted to go show people that
42:23
Speaker 1: I could play Division one basketball. And it was right
42:29
Speaker 1: out the gate. We had Georgetown come up l Passo
42:33
Speaker 1: and play us. There was number one team and I
42:36
Speaker 1: was the only one that could get through the press.
42:39
Speaker 1: And as a freshman, I was controlling the tempo and
42:42
Speaker 1: I only played about twelve minutes, but I was controlling
42:45
Speaker 1: the tempo and I was making plays for my teammates
42:49
Speaker 1: to run offense, So it worked out very well. You
42:52
Speaker 1: just got to know what it is you need to
42:54
Speaker 1: do and just be patient about doing it.
42:56
Speaker 3: To me, I was a big fan again of you
42:59
Speaker 3: guys back in the day because I did play with
43:01
Speaker 3: you on NBA JAM. So then I would try to
43:03
Speaker 3: watch as many games as I can watch with you guys.
43:05
Speaker 3: But it seems like with you and Maulin and Richmond,
43:09
Speaker 3: like if you guys could have stayed together longer, like
43:11
Speaker 3: I feel like there could have been some real titles there.
43:13
Speaker 3: Do you feel that way?
43:14
Speaker 7: I definitely feel that way.
43:16
Speaker 1: I definitely feel that if we would have kept Mitch,
43:19
Speaker 1: that we would have been able to contend for a title.
43:22
Speaker 1: I tell people that all the time. You know, I
43:25
Speaker 1: just wish we was together and Nelly would have just
43:28
Speaker 1: kept that core together and we were able to build
43:34
Speaker 1: around us because we had some good guys. We have
43:36
Speaker 1: some good teammates and we you know, each year, we
43:40
Speaker 1: knew what we need to do and how.
43:42
Speaker 7: We needed to do it.
43:44
Speaker 1: And I think when we lost to the Lakers, we
43:47
Speaker 1: kind of knew the next year exactly how to approach
43:53
Speaker 1: the next year and how we need to play and
43:56
Speaker 1: what we need to do to get better and to
43:59
Speaker 1: make it further in the playoffs, and it never happened.
44:03
Speaker 3: Was that something you voice to, you know, your coach Nelson, like,
44:06
Speaker 3: what's going on here? Or was it above even him?
44:09
Speaker 7: Right?
44:09
Speaker 1: Well, you know it was him. He pulled the trigger
44:12
Speaker 1: on it, and that was that. We didn't have no
44:15
Speaker 1: say so any we knew after the fact. He called
44:18
Speaker 1: Chris Mullen and myself in the room after he made
44:22
Speaker 1: the trade and it was over. We had to deal
44:24
Speaker 1: with it. And that's the way things you know, happened
44:26
Speaker 1: back in the day. You know, you had to you know,
44:29
Speaker 1: they made a decision and you had to deal with
44:31
Speaker 1: it and just go.
44:33
Speaker 3: It feels like the players now have pretty much all
44:35
Speaker 3: of the power in the league. Do you feel like
44:38
Speaker 3: that wasn't the case back when you guys were playing.
44:40
Speaker 7: That wasn't the case. That was not the case.
44:42
Speaker 1: You know, Michael Jordan didn't even have power over the Bulls.
44:46
Speaker 1: It was all Jerry Crouse. Jerry Krouse made that team.
44:50
Speaker 1: Jerry Krouse built that team, you know, the same way
44:53
Speaker 1: with Pat Rolly. He built the team and in Miami
44:57
Speaker 1: and he's you know, he's still doing stuff. He don't
44:59
Speaker 1: go into asks a team or the players. You know
45:02
Speaker 1: what he needs and what he thinks is best for
45:05
Speaker 1: them or you know what they is best for the team.
45:09
Speaker 1: He just go out there and thinks was best for him,
45:11
Speaker 1: I mean for them and make it happen, you know,
45:15
Speaker 1: And you can't be hasty about it. You know, you
45:18
Speaker 1: got to really think about long term, what your team
45:22
Speaker 1: is going to have long term is it's going to
45:24
Speaker 1: be short term, It's going to be right now. You know,
45:27
Speaker 1: when he got Shock, it was right now. You know,
45:29
Speaker 1: it wasn't like two years or three years. We got
45:33
Speaker 1: to win this thing right now, and they wanted right now.
45:37
Speaker 1: That's what made it a big deal when he traded
45:41
Speaker 1: for Shaq. Get to know what you're getting into, and
45:43
Speaker 1: you can't be hasty about I.
45:45
Speaker 3: Wrote a couple of books, and when I wrote my books,
45:46
Speaker 3: through a lot of things that came up that I
45:48
Speaker 3: kind of forgotten about. Not that didn't happen to me,
45:50
Speaker 3: but you're just reliving some stuff. You're like, oh, yeah,
45:52
Speaker 3: I didn't think about that. I write that, Like in
45:54
Speaker 3: your book, did you have any of those moments where
45:55
Speaker 3: you're going, man, I didn't think about that in a
45:57
Speaker 3: long time, and it kind of reintroduced you some of
45:59
Speaker 3: his all memories all the time.
46:01
Speaker 1: All the time I'm talking about it, you know, I'm
46:04
Speaker 1: thinking about it. And as I'm writing about it. The
46:07
Speaker 1: guy that helped me out, Jake Uddy, really really helped
46:11
Speaker 1: me out. And when he was talking and asked me questions,
46:15
Speaker 1: I was going back and I was like, oh, you know, wait, wait, wait,
46:17
Speaker 1: wait wait. You know, matter of fact, last week when
46:21
Speaker 1: we talked and we said this, and we said that,
46:23
Speaker 1: you know, I wanted I missed out on this important
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Speaker 1: component about this piece that I wanted to say. And yeah,
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Speaker 1: it went back and forth, back and forth. And then
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Speaker 1: when you really, you know, editing reading, you know, you
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Speaker 1: go back three, four, five times and read the same paragraph.
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Speaker 1: Did you want to make is it saying what you
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Speaker 1: really wanted to say? Is getting that message the way
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Speaker 1: you wanted to get get it out? It was interesting,
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Speaker 1: you know, it's very interesting. Was it was cool to
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Speaker 1: me to go back and relive a lot of things that.
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Speaker 3: I forgot about going to the Olympics.
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Speaker 1: What was that like, Man, I tell you this, First
47:06
Speaker 1: of all, getting picked for the Olympics, they come to
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Speaker 1: you and say, hey, you're gonna be on the Olympic team.
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Speaker 1: That's special. That's very special. It's not you know, getting
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Speaker 1: picked for the All Star team. This is getting picked
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Speaker 1: for your country and you represent your country out on
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Speaker 1: the basketball court. And there's twelve guys, thirteen guys, really,
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Speaker 1: twelve guys that have to come together and put their
47:29
Speaker 1: egos aside and check their egos at the door and
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Speaker 1: have to come together and play as a team.
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Speaker 7: Not an All Star team.
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Speaker 1: We're talking about as a professional team that you're gonna
47:43
Speaker 1: be with for about forty days, fifty days, and from
47:47
Speaker 1: day one at practice, you know, it's about us, It's
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Speaker 1: about USA. It's not about Tim hard Away, Gary Payton,
47:57
Speaker 1: Jason Kidd, Vince Carter. You know, we know we're gonna
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Speaker 1: have some guys on the team that's going to excel
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Speaker 1: each and every game. We know we're gonna have some
48:06
Speaker 1: guys that's going to play well. But everybody has to
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Speaker 1: go out there and do their job and understand what
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Speaker 1: their job is.
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Speaker 7: We knew that very very quickly.
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Speaker 1: That's why we was able to go out there and
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Speaker 1: play well and win the goal. So it was great,
48:25
Speaker 1: you know, just spending time with those guys.
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Speaker 7: They built us in Australia.
48:29
Speaker 1: They supposed to built us a nice hotel, but it
48:32
Speaker 1: was a small hotel where they we had small rooms.
48:37
Speaker 1: It wasn't difficult, but it wasn't what we was a customer.
48:43
Speaker 1: We dealt with it and understood that that was it,
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Speaker 1: and we dealt with it.
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Speaker 3: I love the book cover. How many did you go
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Speaker 3: through before you picked that? You know, it's it's basically
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Speaker 3: two pictures. You do it a crossing over. But it's
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Speaker 3: a lot of faded versions of that as well. I'm
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Speaker 3: sure you went through a bunch. Why this one?
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Speaker 1: Well, first of all, go the State Warriors Miami Heat,
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Speaker 1: two of the teams. You know, everybody said which team
49:04
Speaker 1: you go in in the Hall of Fame. What I said, man,
49:07
Speaker 1: is both teams. Six years with the Miami going to
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Speaker 1: State Warriors, six years with the with the Miami Heat.
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Speaker 1: I had great years, great organizations, you know, all Star games,
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Speaker 1: all NBA teams. It was fitting to have you know,
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Speaker 1: both of them jerseys on at the same time and
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Speaker 1: showing me just dribbling a basketball. But yeah, we went
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Speaker 1: through about what I say about five five to six
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Speaker 1: different pitchers and everything, and once this came up.
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Speaker 7: I was like, oh, hell yeah, I like this. I
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Speaker 7: really like this. This is what we're going with. This
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Speaker 7: is what this is me right there?
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Speaker 3: It works awesome, big Fan. I really appreciate the time.
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Speaker 3: I hope that you're getting everything out of the book
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Speaker 3: that you wanted. It's called Killer Crossover My life from
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Speaker 3: the Chicago Streets to Basketball Royalty. Again, big Fan really
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Speaker 3: appreciates time, Tim, and I hope you have a great
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Speaker 3: rest of the day. Man, Thank you so much, Thank.
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Speaker 7: You, appreciate you and continue success.
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Speaker 3: Thank you Tim. All right, that's gonna do it. Thank
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Speaker 3: you everybody for being here. How's everybody feel. A little
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Speaker 3: hockey talk today?
50:13
Speaker 2: Pretty good?
50:14
Speaker 3: A little educated hockey talk.
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Speaker 2: The diversity of our podcast. Man, how cool is that.
50:19
Speaker 3: I did see someone right? Speaking of slow white guys
50:22
Speaker 3: I'm talking about with like Vanderbilt. When the US won hockey,
50:26
Speaker 3: they were calling that white boy Winter nice. Yeah, there
50:32
Speaker 3: you go, interesting, Like there's like, uh like bad girl Summer,
50:37
Speaker 3: that white monny white guy Winter. There you go. Thank
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Speaker 3: you all for being here. We hope you enjoyed the show.
50:44
Speaker 3: And we will see you guys whenever we see you again,
50:48
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