Transcript

01/29/26 - Hour 3 · The Huddle

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Speaker 1: Dominating a Thursday morning the good Land.
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Speaker 2: It's the huddle, Drew Billy and Arman bringing it to
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Speaker 2: you from headquarters eight seven seven seven the Nicola Lo
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Speaker 2: dot com talking text line. Armand I didn't see you
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Speaker 2: doing any celebratory dance, so now and I looked away.
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Speaker 2: So can I assume that the American lost in the
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Speaker 2: Australian Open.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, actually that was the end of last hour. But
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Speaker 3: Doug didn't have it in the Open. But Pagola unfold,
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Speaker 3: Terry rob absolutely unconscionable decision by Doug. No, Unfortunately, we're
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Speaker 3: out of Americans now in the Australian Open, and the
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Speaker 3: women's sabage are last when Jessica Pagoula was in there
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Speaker 3: and you know, I like her, she's a really good player,
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Speaker 3: but unfortunately wasn't enough. She lost in the second set
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Speaker 3: tie break in the semi final. So now it's now
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Speaker 3: it's the final with uh Sabolenka and I can't pronounce
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Speaker 3: the Kazakh's girl name that she lows to, but Uh
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Speaker 3: a disappointing end to Uh. To the tournament for for Pagola,
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Speaker 3: and hopefully she doesn't cry in the locker room because
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Speaker 3: if she does dad might come in and fire her. Yeah, Terry,
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Speaker 3: that's Terry Pegoola's daughter. I think people don't realize that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely didn't.
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Speaker 4: When you bitch slapped some sense into me in before
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Speaker 4: this show, which.
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Speaker 3: I really appreciated, I didn't mean to do it. You
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Speaker 3: had four fifty five in the I thought it was awesome.
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Speaker 1: We need some of that fighting, like.
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Speaker 3: You know who Terry pagol Is.
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Speaker 2: Sports works in cycles because uh, one of my growing up,
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Speaker 2: one of my crushes was a tennis player named Carling Bassett,
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Speaker 2: whose father owned the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
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Speaker 3: Right, and you're thinking, this is great tennis man, tennis girl.
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Speaker 3: You know, she's got a rich dad and all this
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Speaker 3: rich team.
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Speaker 2: And then I think he might have gone on and
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Speaker 2: bought like the man you or something here like the
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Speaker 2: Bassett family.
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Speaker 4: Carl I can see why Philly just googled her up.
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Speaker 4: I was hers, yep, I could see just.
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Speaker 3: Like the Sands Post arena. You know, Era is probably,
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Speaker 3: you know, along with Coco and Madison Keys, one of
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Speaker 3: our best women's players. And I've always liked the way
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Speaker 3: she played because it's like no weakness, is super consistent.
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Speaker 3: But when she gets and she was in the twenty
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Speaker 3: four US Open final. She's gone deep in tournaments, in
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Speaker 3: Grand slamds, but cannot break through because she doesn't have
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Speaker 3: that easy power and that winner's you know, ability to take.
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Speaker 3: She's great. It's like, I'm trying to think of a
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Speaker 3: player that can do it in regular seasons all the time.
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Speaker 3: But when it when it comes to the biggest, you know, matches,
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Speaker 3: when you're up against the biggest talents, it's hard. Josh, yeah,
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Speaker 3: maybe you know Lamar Jackson.
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Speaker 1: She doesn't Aaron Rodgers now.
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Speaker 3: But they've all they've all got special talent.
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Speaker 1: Like she's good.
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Speaker 3: She maximizes every time. She has no weaknesses, but she doesn't.
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Speaker 3: She plays passive sometimes in defensive and these things because
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Speaker 3: she don't want to make mistakes, and it gets you
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Speaker 3: in trouble when you play the hard hitters and you
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Speaker 3: can't hit enough winners to win these tournaments. So she
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Speaker 3: was fighting, you know, she was in the second set
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Speaker 3: tie break. Sorry, everybody gone two minutes long than you
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Speaker 3: probably want to, but she was in the second second
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Speaker 3: tie break. I was ringing, I know. Mike Witt asked
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Speaker 3: earlier why I was fighting somebody in the.
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Speaker 1: Air boxing somebody in the studio. It was awesome.
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Speaker 3: No, it wasn't that, Mike, it was Yeah, why does
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Speaker 3: Armin look like he's yelling at someone when he come
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Speaker 3: back from a break. She was in the tie break,
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Speaker 3: she was fighting it off. She almost forced the third
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Speaker 3: step but couldn't get it.
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Speaker 1: The battle.
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Speaker 3: Kind of a bummer. But so you have no more
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Speaker 3: Americans left. No, the finals are set in the women's
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Speaker 3: and I believe we're almost there in the men's too,
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Speaker 3: you know.
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Speaker 4: So you shift all attention now towards the Olympics because
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Speaker 4: as much as the energy can be listen, I know
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Speaker 4: you're gonna have energy dedicated to college basketball because you
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Speaker 4: always because it always delivers. Yeah, in the NBA, in
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Speaker 4: the Bucks and as they're leading off right now with
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Speaker 4: Bryan Windhorse telling us what team is the best fit
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Speaker 4: for Giannis, and if he tries to tell me the Warriors,
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Speaker 4: he can shut completely off. But because now we need
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Speaker 4: to find something else to be able to find it
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Speaker 4: away for an American to bring one home.
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Speaker 3: Not gonna be our game, not this year. I mean
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Speaker 3: we're gonna have some great matches, you know. Djokovic and
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Speaker 3: senter tomorrow in the semi Friday morning, and then it's
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Speaker 3: gonna be so epic men's matches. Then Sabalanka's gonna win.
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Speaker 3: So you're right, but no, Americans, we need to bring
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Speaker 3: home a lot of gold medals in the Winter Olympics,
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Speaker 3: and I hope we stacked it.
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Speaker 1: I think we got a good chance. I think we
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Speaker 1: got a good chance.
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Speaker 3: Drew.
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Speaker 4: I was listening to Mike Tarico yesterday on the McFee
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Speaker 4: show talk about the day that he's going to have
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Speaker 4: on Super Bowl Day. He's going to do the game
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Speaker 4: right and then normally you'd be done as the broadcaster.
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Speaker 4: He's gonna run down to the field and host their
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Speaker 4: Olympic Night in America. All that starting when he wakes
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Speaker 4: up in the middle of the night to hopefully watch
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Speaker 4: Lindsay Vaughn, who was on the broadcast desk with him
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Speaker 4: last year, try to win the women's downhill.
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Speaker 1: So this is the heck of a heck of a run.
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Speaker 2: And we're talking about comebacks because of what the Badgers
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Speaker 2: did last night at Cole Center.
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Speaker 1: Well, that would be a great comeback. That would be one.
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Speaker 4: She's got up there like full titanium, leg I believe
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Speaker 4: he said, or me the way he kind of described
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Speaker 4: it and her and you know, her and Tiger Woods
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Speaker 4: had had a little back and forth and one wait
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Speaker 4: and listen. You also want to talk about the comeback
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Speaker 4: stories that both of them potentially could be on.
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Speaker 1: This is one that is up there. Titanium.
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Speaker 4: a painful experience.
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Speaker 1: I felt bad.
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Speaker 2: Yeah all right, Billy, you got some Pat Murphy sound
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Speaker 2: that you made. You chuckle, and I want you to
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Speaker 2: share that with the class.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was funny, so Murph as we played a
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Speaker 4: little bit throughout the week or earlier in the week,
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Speaker 4: when he gave his answer and his thanks for the
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Speaker 4: award as two time two time manager of the Year
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Speaker 4: in the National League. At the Baseball Baseball Writers of
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Speaker 4: America gala, he joined the Foul Territory Boys, who were
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Speaker 4: all rocking bow ties to celebrate and remember and enjoy
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Speaker 4: Ken Rosenthal, but also enjoyed some conversation one amount about
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Speaker 4: Freddy Peralta and talking about exactly how important he was
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Speaker 4: invaluable to the culture of.
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Speaker 5: The midilew we hear great things about the players we got.
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Speaker 5: There were coveted players by a lot of teams, and
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Speaker 5: the Mets especially, they knew they were had to give
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Speaker 5: up two really good players. We think they both can
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Speaker 5: help us fairly soon to say we know the player.
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Speaker 5: We're just regurgitating or watching video a little bit. And
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Speaker 5: you know, you really can't evaluate watching video or you know,
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Speaker 5: list than other reports. What we lose in Freddie Peralta.
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Speaker 1: You know, he's part of our fabric.
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Speaker 5: You know what he did in that locker room, what
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Speaker 5: he did for others. You know, the dynamic of the
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Speaker 5: soup that we're stirring. When you take that ingredient out,
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Speaker 5: it could taste very different. He was very, very good
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Speaker 5: in the last three years. He's been very consistent, dependable, trusted. Yeah, leader,
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Speaker 5: Nothing seems to bother you, guys, though, Well it bothers me.
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Speaker 6: Well, no, yeah, every year everyone says the Brewers eighty wins,
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Speaker 6: seventy wins, sixty wins, whatever it is, and then old
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Speaker 6: Kratz goes they're gonna win ninety two games again, just
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Speaker 6: like they do every year.
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Speaker 1: So nothing seems to bother you, guys. No, I mean
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Speaker 1: not personally.
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Speaker 6: I know, losing Freddy, losing Devin you know, you trade hater,
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Speaker 6: you lose Cornyn Burns, you lose all these guys one
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Speaker 6: after another. Willia Damas one after another. But then you
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Speaker 6: go out and win ninety seven games, right, and then
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Speaker 6: Freddy's gone, And now you're like.
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Speaker 1: They do a great job.
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Speaker 5: The Ivory Tower does a great job of identifying the
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Speaker 5: guy that they think can play kind of the way
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Speaker 5: we try to play. Not that it's too much different.
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Speaker 5: We don't have any secret sauce. We've been very fortunate.
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Speaker 5: Things have went our way a lot. And I don't
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Speaker 5: mean to say at all that we play any different
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Speaker 5: than other teams, but the things we emphasize that the
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Speaker 5: front office does a great job of bringing those types
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Speaker 5: of guys in that play defense and that run the
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Speaker 5: bases that you know are hungry. You know guys that
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Speaker 5: say I might be in Triple A this year. You
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Speaker 5: know they're renting their apartment for sure, you know what
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Speaker 5: I mean. And that's kind of fun to be around.
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Speaker 2: Oh, Murph, what a treasure. Now the soup thing, Harman,
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Speaker 2: you've made this before, but it was what in twenty
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Speaker 2: eighteen Craig Council in the dugout was talking about that
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Speaker 2: and said, when you put the soup together, the ingredients
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Speaker 2: can be this saying, but if you don't put the
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Speaker 2: right amount and then it's different.
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Speaker 4: You put a different ingredy in it, It's going to
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Speaker 4: be different. That's okay, it's not going to taste the
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Speaker 4: same every year or every day.
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Speaker 2: I like that. That's part of being on a team.
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Speaker 2: That's the part of the fun of being on the team.
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Speaker 2: It's a great metaphor. Yeah, the soup, Yeah, did MURFH
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Speaker 2: get that from counts? Did Counts get that from MURFH?
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Speaker 2: A little bit of bulk and an egg? I don't
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Speaker 2: know who who used to We didn't have to hear
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Speaker 2: sup pitch great.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. That was our other super reference that
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Speaker 3: we had to deal with the Brewers fans for so long.
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Speaker 3: But Al's love how honesty is. I like that he
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Speaker 3: didn't try and pretend that you know their platitudes and
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Speaker 3: their way of doing things. While it's great and it works,
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Speaker 3: that things still went their way and they've been fortunate
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Speaker 3: in that regard, and he goes, we don't have a
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Speaker 3: secret sauce. I think there are a lot of coaches
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Speaker 3: out there in sports that, Yeah, you had you set
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Speaker 3: a program, you set standards, you have cliches, you have platitudes,
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Speaker 3: you have banners you work by, but try and pretend
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Speaker 3: that it's you know, it's a secret sauce that no
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Speaker 3: one else has thought of. Everyone's trying to hold the
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Speaker 3: some themselves to a certain type of standard anyway. But
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Speaker 3: sometimes things work out and go your way and the
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Speaker 3: process has worked for you, and that there is a
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Speaker 3: little bit of I don't want to say randomness, but
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Speaker 3: there's a little bit of fortune involved in that too.
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Speaker 4: To make it work, you have to be fortunate to win,
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Speaker 4: right like, you have to get good breaks along the
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Speaker 4: way to win games, and to win enough games to
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Speaker 4: be back to back division champions. And I think Murph
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Speaker 4: has seen too many good teams to just let that
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Speaker 4: part go and not admit to it. I thought Counsel
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Speaker 4: was really really good at it as well, Drew, where Like,
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Speaker 4: you got to admit and surrender yourself a little bit
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Speaker 4: to the randomness of the game, because if you don't,
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Speaker 4: you're not gonna be able to put your best self
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Speaker 4: out there and your best ability out there. I heard
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Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford talking about it in an interview where he's like, man,
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Speaker 4: at some point, you just gotta let The video is
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Speaker 4: coming out of him tucking his kids in and the
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Speaker 4: little one cry in He's like, surrender myself to whatever happens,
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Speaker 4: and you put yourself out there to see the team
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Speaker 4: itself though, and the locker room, one of the most
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Speaker 4: key ingredients is gonna be gone. And not only from
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Speaker 4: the thirty five starts that we talked about for the
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Speaker 4: last couple of days since it happened, but the connectivity.
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Speaker 1: You could speak to it more, Drew, It's hard.
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Speaker 4: It's gotta be really hard for a starting pitcher to
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Speaker 4: be one of the locker room leaders.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, because your only pigeon once every five days.
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Speaker 4: You got to carry a big stick, right like and
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Speaker 4: for it well yeah, but also to be able to
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Speaker 4: because there's such a there's always going to be a
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Speaker 4: different demographic with the Latin players in the American Freddy
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Speaker 4: was so good, right.
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Speaker 1: Even from the jump.
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Speaker 4: I saw the videos of him answering the questions and
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Speaker 4: is after his first start, and people were amazed by
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Speaker 4: his answers and the braces. But he was such a
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Speaker 4: connector in a locker room and a real bridge with
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Speaker 4: all twenty six guys.
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Speaker 2: I saw Freddy's zoom call with New York reporters.
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Speaker 1: Did you see that?
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Speaker 3: I saw clips?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm ready for this feel proud to be here,
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Speaker 2: be part of the Mets team. He knew kind of
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Speaker 2: that they were having conversations with you wasn't but he said,
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Speaker 2: it's a different market, different city. There's a lot more fans,
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Speaker 2: a lot more people watching. Being honest, I like the
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Speaker 2: competition that we're gonna face here. I've been around obviously
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Speaker 2: watching for years. What it's what it's like to be
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Speaker 2: part of a big market team. I'm excited to be
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Speaker 2: part of that team.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought, also thought he definitely They asked him
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Speaker 3: about a contract extension. He goes, you know, I'm not
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Speaker 3: worried about that, you know, I'm more about meeting the
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Speaker 3: guys and credit in good first impression in the clubhouse
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Speaker 3: and doing the right day. He definitely answered that question
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Speaker 3: really well.
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Speaker 4: I'm very excited to see the payday that he ends
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Speaker 4: up cashing in, and I wouldn't be upset if it
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Speaker 4: was from Stearns.
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Speaker 1: I would like to be American League. But we're happy
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Speaker 1: for him.
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Speaker 3: I think that's one of those rad field that's absolutely
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Speaker 3: we're happy for him. I think everyone believes he earned it.
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Speaker 3: I think there's a sense of when you play in
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Speaker 3: a player friendly contract that long and you finally, you know,
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Speaker 3: get which at least most fans I feel are going
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Speaker 3: to be happy for Freddie. We wish we could be
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Speaker 3: that team to just divvy out, you know, stacks and
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Speaker 3: stacks and it's not us right when it comes to baseball.
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Speaker 3: But hey, you know, I think we'll be happy when
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Speaker 3: he gets it from somebody.
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Speaker 2: It's their opening day starter and his next contract will
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Speaker 2: be a nine figure deal.
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Speaker 4: Big time matter, yes, but will there be a one
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Speaker 4: or a two in front of it? Brewers got the
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Speaker 4: best I still think of one. The Brewers got the
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Speaker 4: best out of him just because of his age. Well,
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Speaker 4: and question the toughest thing is and and this is
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Speaker 4: a This is no knock towards Freddie. And I definitely
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Speaker 4: hope that he has more successful years like it. I
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Speaker 4: think you just traded him after a career year, right
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Speaker 4: after potentially what will be four. Yeah, but I mean, like,
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Speaker 4: especially like yesterday, last year felt like the peak that
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Speaker 4: you were going to get at this point and hopefully,
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Speaker 4: hopefully it's not.
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Speaker 1: Hopefully he has a lot more success.
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Speaker 4: Murph also uh with the guys on foul Territory at
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Speaker 4: the Gala, talked about what hurts the most not a
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Speaker 4: Rascal Flat song about losing and being so close against
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Speaker 4: the LA Dodgers last year.
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Speaker 1: It happens, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 5: You understand when you've been in the game a long time,
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Speaker 5: you understand that they played great. Everything, everything they did
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Speaker 5: was effective. They pitched unbelievably, and we didn't do anything well.
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Speaker 1: We didn't sneak up on them.
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Speaker 5: They knew us, and they knew they had their hands
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Speaker 5: full if they didn't play well.
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Speaker 1: And it just the timing of all that worked.
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Speaker 5: Coming off the emotional series, that hurts because you know
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Speaker 5: you're that close to doing something really, really special.
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Speaker 7: So, yeah, there is there a regular season team? Because
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Speaker 7: Scott has called the Phillies a regular season team, and
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Speaker 7: I bring it up to them all the time because
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Speaker 7: they lose in the playoffs? Is there a regular season team.
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Speaker 5: In if you call it beforehand, I'll give you credit.
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Speaker 5: If you call it beforehand, they this is a regular
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Speaker 5: season team. But when you do it after the fact,
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Speaker 5: you can always say that. There's always something you can
14:42
Speaker 5: say after the fact, Oh, he's a regular season team,
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Speaker 5: like we're We're a couple of pitches from being two
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Speaker 5: to two in that series, and then all of a sudden.
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Speaker 5: You know, it's a different it's a different ballgame. But
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Speaker 5: Dodgers deserve all the credit in the world, especially those
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Speaker 5: four games. They were incredible. But I I don't think
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Speaker 5: you can say regular season team. Whatever it happens. You know,
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Speaker 5: Alonso hits a three run homeward and the top of
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Speaker 5: the ninth, I mean off the pitcher of the year,
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Speaker 5: reliever of the year last two years. It happens, and
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Speaker 5: when it does, you don't get another chance. So there's
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Speaker 5: not that much domination in baseball that one or two
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Speaker 5: pitches can't change a game. So I don't think you
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Speaker 5: can call it a regular season team unless you do
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Speaker 5: it beforehand. And if you do, shout it out, and
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Speaker 5: you know that might motivate a team not to be.
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Speaker 1: I like, the last piece motivated team not to be.
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Speaker 4: Come on, let us have that last one and give
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Speaker 4: us one more piece.
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Speaker 3: It's a great point. But the way he blays it
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Speaker 3: out is absolutely true.
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Speaker 2: I think, so yeah, the way again, but regular season
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Speaker 2: they swept the Dodgers, and we did talk about how
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Speaker 2: that didn't really mean anything, and that was nice stat.
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Speaker 4: No, but I do think is the small sample again, Yeah,
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Speaker 4: did you anything.
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Speaker 1: To the Brewers a bill to win the games against.
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Speaker 4: But I think it maybe meant something to what he said,
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Speaker 4: we weren't going to be able to sneak up on them.
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Speaker 1: They knew us too well.
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Speaker 4: And they had played and gotten beat by the Brewers
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Speaker 4: earlier in the year, and gotten beat by the Brewers
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Speaker 4: playing their style of ball right like, right as the
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Speaker 4: Brewers kind of got hot, is was when they had
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Speaker 4: those six.
16:17
Speaker 1: Some of those games, like the Dodgers were a little depleted.
16:20
Speaker 1: They were getting guys back first, start backs, and you
16:25
Speaker 1: catch in the rotation, who do you like? You know,
16:28
Speaker 1: there was a lot of that.
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Speaker 3: And to his point, all it takes is a few
16:31
Speaker 3: things to go your way to push the edges in
16:33
Speaker 3: a small margin game in the playoff. In the playoff,
16:35
Speaker 3: baseball is a small margin game. And he goes, you know, not,
16:38
Speaker 3: you know, most teams aren't dominant enough over one to
16:40
Speaker 3: overcome those small margin moments like that.
16:42
Speaker 1: And that's true, that's right.
16:44
Speaker 2: In the first hour of our program today, if you
16:46
Speaker 2: weren't awake, well we don't blame you, but we did
16:48
Speaker 2: fire up at five am, and we spent a lot
16:49
Speaker 2: of time talking about Giannis and his situation and kind
16:53
Speaker 2: of a lot of people are starting to come to
16:55
Speaker 2: grips with the idea that he might not be a
16:56
Speaker 2: buck for life again. I think it's the official UH
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Speaker 2: position of the three on this panel that if anything happens,
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Speaker 2: it'll be in the offseason, not in the next week.
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Speaker 1: I just can't see it happening next week.
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Speaker 2: I'd be shocked if I could sit corrected, and I
17:10
Speaker 2: will say I was wrong, But just reading it, I
17:13
Speaker 2: don't think they can get value right now. It's gonna
17:15
Speaker 2: be a bigger deal that takes more to put together,
17:17
Speaker 2: more of a bank shot, and Billy, to your point
17:19
Speaker 2: that you made earlier, is like some team that gets
17:21
Speaker 2: disappointed with a playoff run, and it's gonna be more
17:24
Speaker 2: motivated to dump assets and get gianness.
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Speaker 4: You gotta wait for pissed off owner season. You gotta
17:30
Speaker 4: wait for you gotta wait for somebody to be right
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Speaker 4: at the doorstep and blow a three two lead, and
17:35
Speaker 4: then they get.
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Speaker 1: A little aggressive.
17:37
Speaker 2: We've also been talking about great comebacks in sports, because
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Speaker 2: the Badgers had a great one last night' scoring fifty
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Speaker 2: in the second half after a seventeen point eighteen percent
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Speaker 2: shooting performance in the first half, got them boot up
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Speaker 2: the court at the Coal Center, came back and beat
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Speaker 2: those golfers last night.
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Speaker 1: We've been talking about great comebacks. Got some good ones queued.
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Speaker 2: Up in a chat too, to fire up next when
17:57
Speaker 2: we come back. However, Billy is going to get hit
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Speaker 2: Billy's got the question, and you need to give us
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Speaker 2: the answer. Billy, what do you got?
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Speaker 4: We've been talking about comebacks all day long. Off of
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Speaker 4: the Badgers erasing a eighteen point halftime deficit last night
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Speaker 4: against the Minnesota Golden Gophers at the Coal Center to
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Speaker 4: win sixty seven to sixty three, was the largest tied
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Speaker 4: for the largest second half comeback in the school history.
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Speaker 4: So off of that What former Green Bay Packer was
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Speaker 4: on the sidelines as a head coach in the largest
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Speaker 4: comeback in NFL history. What former packer was on the
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Speaker 4: sidelines as a coach for the largest comeback in NFL history?
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Speaker 2: Eight seven seven seven seven three. Our first contest is
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Speaker 2: Corey in Beaver Dam Corey, Welcome to the huddle.
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Speaker 5: How's it going?
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Speaker 1: Great? More important? How it's going for you?
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Speaker 5: Man?
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Speaker 1: All right, you have the question in front of you.
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Speaker 4: You have an opportunity to grab two tickets to see
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Speaker 4: Luke Brian in September. What former packer was on the
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Speaker 4: sidelines as a coach head coach in the largest comeback
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Speaker 4: in NFL history.
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Speaker 2: Oh boy, we're gonna need an answer.
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Speaker 4: What former Green Bay Packer was on the sidelines as
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Speaker 4: a coach in the largest comeback in NFL history?
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Speaker 5: Green Bay Packer?
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Speaker 2: I can't, I can't think of it, all right, sir,
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Speaker 2: gotta guess he can't.
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Speaker 1: It all right?
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Speaker 2: All right, Paul is calling us from Nasha today. Paul,
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Speaker 2: you're in the huddle morning, Paul. How you doing a Theremnasha?
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Speaker 2: That's what I like to hear it.
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Speaker 4: Well, I have I hope that you're doing even better
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Speaker 4: after this after you give us the answer for what
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Speaker 4: former Green Bay Packer was on the sidelines as a
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Speaker 4: coach a part of the largest comeback in NFL history
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Speaker 4: regular season games to regular season game. It is a
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Speaker 4: regular season game. I'll give you that.
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Speaker 1: It's a It was a regular season game.
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Speaker 4: It was actually discussed earlier on this show where a
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Speaker 4: former Green Bay Packer was on the sidelines as a
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Speaker 4: head coach a part of the largest comeback in NFL history.
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Speaker 3: I'm trying to think, is it the I'm going to
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Speaker 3: the game of the Vikings and Colt. I don't know
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Speaker 3: if that did actually.
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Speaker 1: But three two one, I don't know.
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Speaker 3: Al Harris.
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Speaker 4: I hope Al Harris is a coach one day. I
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Speaker 4: hope he is a coach. Coming up one day, Chad
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Speaker 4: and Madison. You're in the huddle trying to win some
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Speaker 4: Luke Bryant tickets. All right, Chad, huddle up. What former
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Speaker 4: packer was on the sidelines as a head coach in
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Speaker 4: the game in which the largest NFL comeback in history
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Speaker 4: was recorded.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a great question, and I got nothing.
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Speaker 1: Flame out? All right, tap it out?
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Speaker 3: Okay?
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Speaker 1: A brainbuster? Dang I did?
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Speaker 4: Okay, So let's go again as a head coach in
22:32
Speaker 4: the game, part of the largest comeback in NFL history.
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Speaker 1: He's a former Green Bay Packer.
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Speaker 4: Uh. He also is seen quite a bit. He's he's
22:41
Speaker 4: definitely seen quite a bit in the public eye, no
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Speaker 4: doubt about it.
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Speaker 1: Former Green Bay Packer.
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Speaker 5: Right.
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Speaker 1: Let's go to Dan and West Bend trying to win
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Speaker 1: some tickets. Dan, while you're in the huddle. Welcome, Hi, Hey.
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Speaker 4: Dan, Well, thank you for thank you for being a
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Speaker 4: part of it. Thank you for making the call. Who
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Speaker 4: and what former pack was on the sidelines as a
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Speaker 4: head coach in the game the largest comeback in NFL history.
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Speaker 7: Oh, I wasn't calling for trivia.
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Speaker 1: I was just calling to complain about armies Chili.
23:11
Speaker 3: Well that you answer anyway, because my Chili is still losing.
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Speaker 1: Mike Smith No good guest though, Mike Smith, former head
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Speaker 1: coach in the NFL. All right, we got Chris and
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Speaker 1: Lode on the line.
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Speaker 4: Chris, you're in the huddle, Hey, Chris, Hey, Chris, do.
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Speaker 1: You need the question again? There he is, Chris and
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Speaker 1: Lodi has it.
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Speaker 4: Jeff's Saturday, head coach of the Indianapolis Colts as they
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Speaker 4: built up a thirty three to nothing halftime lead against
23:41
Speaker 4: the Minnesota Vikings and then blew it and then blew
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Speaker 4: it lost thirty nine thirty six one years a green
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Speaker 4: Bay Packer, not necessarily the greatest end to his career
23:52
Speaker 4: that he was thinking he was going to be when
23:54
Speaker 4: he had that final year at Green Bay.
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Speaker 3: What was it tougher? What was the tougher part remembering
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Speaker 3: Jeff Saturday was the coach or that he played for
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Speaker 3: the Packers. What was the toughest part about those That's
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Speaker 3: everyone's sitting around saying, Frank Right was a Packer.
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Speaker 4: But Pro Bowl week seeing Jeff's Saturday trot out in
24:11
Speaker 4: the Packer helmet and take the snap on the AFC side, if.
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Speaker 3: That wasn't the biggest reputation Pro Bowl that year, it
24:18
Speaker 3: was a sort of like the guys that won the
24:19
Speaker 3: Gold Glove back in the day, if they had a
24:20
Speaker 3: good year than that last year and offensively Right drew
24:24
Speaker 3: with the Gold Glove voters back in the day.
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Speaker 1: All right, Chris and lodies our winner.
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Speaker 2: He's going to see Luke Criscember twenty six Outpine Valley
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Speaker 2: arm It's gonna get your information right now.
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Speaker 1: He's not gonna wait a half hour he's gonna do
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Speaker 1: it right now.
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Speaker 2: Happens so we can get you your tickets. Congratulations, Chris.
24:39
Speaker 2: People really win by listening.
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Speaker 1: To the awesome. That is a good win right there.
24:43
Speaker 1: That's a great question.
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Speaker 2: Jeff Saturday, the media guy, better media guy than a coach.
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Speaker 1: Phaps I would agree with that one, Drew, I would
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Speaker 1: agree with that one. Now. He did say though he
24:52
Speaker 1: was gonna change the deal.
24:54
Speaker 4: He was trying to change the deal that NFL guys
24:56
Speaker 4: can go in and be a head coach right off
24:58
Speaker 4: of the broadcast TSK.
24:59
Speaker 1: Well, don't think it necessarily worked, not.
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Speaker 2: Necessarily depending on who it is, but it speaks to
25:04
Speaker 2: the trend in sports where you know, counsel have never
25:08
Speaker 2: managed and he got a job and one hundred percent right.
25:10
Speaker 2: I mean, well, there's guys, there's this like new school
25:13
Speaker 2: NBA guys just bringing a guy like Aaron Boone managed
25:16
Speaker 2: before he came off the broadcast desk on Baseball tonight
25:19
Speaker 2: and got the Yankees job.
25:20
Speaker 4: Right Like it's and it is different in all the
25:24
Speaker 4: other sports, I guess the North American sports, you see
25:26
Speaker 4: guys do it. You even see it in the NHL
25:28
Speaker 4: a lot. They fire a lot of coaches in the NHL,
25:30
Speaker 4: I'm starting to understand, but you just don't have it
25:33
Speaker 4: as much in the NFL. I wonder if it's because
25:35
Speaker 4: of the staffing stuff, but or it's just the thought
25:38
Speaker 4: of how disrespected everyone felt. But all of a sudden
25:42
Speaker 4: they gave Jeff Saturday that chance.
25:44
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I gotta tell me how to seven
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Speaker 2: nine three. First text on the top of the queue
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Speaker 2: here for us is Chris and Lodi saying a different
25:53
Speaker 2: Chris and Loadie, I guess, and.
25:57
Speaker 3: I'm gonna talk to Chris, but I said, I've you
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Speaker 3: won these already, and it's apparently a different christ and
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Speaker 3: load eye. So we got multiple chris Is and Lodi
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Speaker 3: that are listening, and we're huge with the chris Is
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Speaker 3: and Lodi, which my apologies to the second degree for
26:11
Speaker 3: our current winner, like I really gave you and like
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Speaker 3: the third degree, no, the third degree, I really gave
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Speaker 3: it to you. Like I was like, are you sure
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Speaker 3: you don win these already? Like I was, like I thought,
26:21
Speaker 3: Chris and load I already won, so I just have
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Speaker 3: to make sure.
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Speaker 1: All right, Well, I'm proud of putting the hammer down,
26:26
Speaker 1: figuring it out.
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Speaker 3: I should have assumed that Lodi is Chuck full of
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Speaker 3: guys named Chris that love our show.
26:30
Speaker 4: I think it's just the biggest comeback for Lodi. Knowing
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Speaker 4: that how the show.
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Speaker 1: Isn't there point yes, no question.
26:36
Speaker 2: I love hearing that no question eight seven seven three.
26:39
Speaker 2: So they're still spinning through the Belichick stuff and there
26:42
Speaker 2: are now people. It's very funny because some of the
26:45
Speaker 2: takes are like the Pro Football Hall of Fame voters
26:49
Speaker 2: have done the impossible. They've turned Bill Belichick into a
26:51
Speaker 2: sympathetic figure that people are rooting for now.
26:54
Speaker 4: It's somehow that's the best thing to happen to Bill
26:57
Speaker 4: Belichick in years.
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Speaker 5: It is.
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Speaker 1: It's that is. It's spectacular the way that unfolded.
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Speaker 2: And now they're doing this but smaller story off track
27:07
Speaker 2: betting in the Himalias. No, you've been following it though
27:10
Speaker 2: a smaller story amidst all this stuff. Is you know
27:13
Speaker 2: who else isn't gonna go in the Hall of Fame?
27:14
Speaker 1: It isn't being.
27:15
Speaker 2: Considered Eli Manning. Mmm, remember what that was like? That
27:20
Speaker 2: case was making people fight and stuff. And I went
27:22
Speaker 2: fifteen rounds again with my buddy Dan Needles about that.
27:25
Speaker 4: Over the years, did it seem like, did it seem
27:28
Speaker 4: like somebody in the Pro Football Hall of Fame selection
27:30
Speaker 4: process was like, hey, let's just divert the attention away
27:32
Speaker 4: from this one. Hey by but Manning didn't get in either,
27:35
Speaker 4: And I was like, yeah, we'll deal with that on
27:36
Speaker 4: another Oh, we don't care about that right now.
27:38
Speaker 1: Yeah.
27:38
Speaker 2: The ELI thing is so interesting because the two Super Bowls,
27:42
Speaker 2: the only years in his career where he won playoff
27:44
Speaker 2: games were those two years.
27:45
Speaker 1: M hm, well and they won two and he won two.
27:49
Speaker 4: And the interesting one is neither him nor the head
27:52
Speaker 4: coach are in, right like Claughlin is also a part
27:54
Speaker 4: of this deal thru where he'll get backlogged because of
27:57
Speaker 4: the Senior Committee. And I saw the reporter I'm forgetting
28:01
Speaker 4: his name. I'm gonna butcher it either way from Kansas
28:03
Speaker 4: City who wrote the road hockey story, Yes, who wrote
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Speaker 4: his piece yesterday as to why he didn't vote for
28:08
Speaker 4: Bill Belichick, said it like Bill Belichick deserves to be
28:11
Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame.
28:11
Speaker 1: I didn't vote for him. And here's why. Now I
28:14
Speaker 1: get voted for the three players. He voted for the
28:16
Speaker 1: three players.
28:17
Speaker 2: That's just it's like saying we're gonna vote for your
28:21
Speaker 2: we're gonna vote for like the best sandwich of all time,
28:24
Speaker 2: and then somehow like French fries are on the ballot,
28:28
Speaker 2: Like what it's like, Come on, it's like, yeah, Founders coaches,
28:32
Speaker 2: players like and to lump them all in and to
28:34
Speaker 2: only vote be able to vote for three of the five,
28:37
Speaker 2: like if they went yes or no would.
28:38
Speaker 4: Be interesting that that to me, I get that part,
28:40
Speaker 4: but like to me, and this is where I think
28:43
Speaker 4: I struggled with it at the end, and I yesterday
28:45
Speaker 4: also struggled with it the more it came out, like
28:47
Speaker 4: at some point, you also just might not be a
28:50
Speaker 4: Hall of Famer, right like, and I I don't mean
28:54
Speaker 4: to say that, you know, begrudgingly to Ken Anderson and
28:56
Speaker 4: his family or you know Elsie Greenwood who's been waiting
28:58
Speaker 4: a long time. I thought Roger Craig was already in,
29:01
Speaker 4: but like, so Roger Craig's gotta go, gotta go in.
29:04
Speaker 4: But like him and him and Greenwood are both on
29:06
Speaker 4: the All Decade teams that usually was locked in part
29:11
Speaker 4: of the Steel Curtain.
29:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, like one time, MVP, he's like Jerry Kramer been
29:15
Speaker 2: sitting around waiting, like how is he not in already?
29:17
Speaker 3: That's the thing with him and Sterling and those That
29:19
Speaker 3: was the point is like this guys should have been
29:21
Speaker 3: in so with that mentality is in.
29:22
Speaker 2: The flawed process and the fact that Belichick didn't have
29:25
Speaker 2: to wait the five years.
29:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, the five years.
29:28
Speaker 4: But that's but to me, that's neither here nor this
29:31
Speaker 4: isn't me make your job to in my estimation, isn't
29:34
Speaker 4: to make this ballot all of well, this is what's
29:37
Speaker 4: wrong with the committee. It's who's on the ballot and
29:39
Speaker 4: who are you gonna vote for it? And I can't
29:41
Speaker 4: still with the five names not vote for Belichick as
29:44
Speaker 4: one of the three. But I really appreciated and this
29:47
Speaker 4: is the part of it. I appreciated and putting it
29:49
Speaker 4: out there and being like, hey, you can say I'm wrong.
29:53
Speaker 4: He even says it in the in the uh in
29:55
Speaker 4: the piece, he's like, I'm totally contradicting myself in here.
29:57
Speaker 1: He's like, I just assumed he was gonna get the vote.
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Speaker 4: But you know what happens when we assume and like
30:02
Speaker 4: this is where maybe there's a change for the Hall
30:06
Speaker 4: of Fame deal. But when Jimmy Johnson is going on
30:10
Speaker 4: every television show that would call him yesterday. Yeah, calling
30:14
Speaker 4: everyone in a holes it's voting, and talk about how
30:16
Speaker 4: it's devaluing the Hall of Fame. Well, no day was
30:20
Speaker 4: better for Bill Belichick to image yesterday.
30:22
Speaker 3: Well that's the funny thing we talked about. Well, this
30:24
Speaker 3: hurt his legacy not being a first ballot, It might
30:26
Speaker 3: help his legacy more that everyone is like, you know,
30:29
Speaker 3: you should have been in, Like you're our battle cry
30:31
Speaker 3: now in some ways that everyone's the first thing they're
30:33
Speaker 3: gonna say is you know you're the best, right, you
30:35
Speaker 3: know you're the best. Like he's gonna get more flowers
30:37
Speaker 3: because of it, Billy, So you're right. But at least,
30:40
Speaker 3: look how many people yesterday were screaming at me about
30:42
Speaker 3: we want accountability, accountability, explain yourself. At least he explained
30:47
Speaker 3: the process. And it's somewhat logical to think this is
30:50
Speaker 3: why this unique set of circumstances resulted in me not
30:53
Speaker 3: voting for him, Not because I don't think he's a
30:54
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame or but because of the way we
30:56
Speaker 3: had to vote and this and that, and I thought
30:57
Speaker 3: somebody else and I was wrong. And you know what,
31:00
Speaker 3: once you hear that, you're like, all right. So at
31:02
Speaker 3: least we heard something. Is that gonna make people feel better? Now?
31:04
Speaker 3: Go do they want? Right?
31:06
Speaker 1: All right?
31:06
Speaker 2: So this fifty person panel and Pete Doherty also wrote
31:08
Speaker 2: a piece because he's a voter.
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Speaker 1: Mm hmm, he has the vote.
31:11
Speaker 2: Cliff Crystal for years was the voter for this our
31:14
Speaker 2: part of the Now it's also and people like, ah,
31:17
Speaker 2: the writers not.
31:18
Speaker 1: Just writers executives. Yeah, it's not just writers. So there's that.
31:23
Speaker 2: But to have just fifty guys and I saw I
31:26
Speaker 2: think it was Courtney Cronin put out like why aren't
31:29
Speaker 2: there like term limits because you see guys in their
31:31
Speaker 2: in their ex bio say Hall of Fame voter since
31:34
Speaker 2: two thousand and two, Like okay, well you earn that
31:36
Speaker 2: status and you've been through it and you have knowledge.
31:39
Speaker 2: But where's the influx of new people? Should you be
31:42
Speaker 2: a voter for five years or ten years?
31:44
Speaker 1: Now?
31:44
Speaker 2: Baseball writers again used to be you had your vote
31:47
Speaker 2: for life. Yeah, once you got to ten years in
31:49
Speaker 2: a kutive consecutive membership, you got the Hall of Fame
31:53
Speaker 2: vote and you had it for life. Now they're starting
31:55
Speaker 2: to like, wean you off after a few years. But
31:57
Speaker 2: they're also always adding there's new guys every year that
32:00
Speaker 2: just got their ten years in that are so they're
32:02
Speaker 2: rolling through. Plus it's like four hundred and thirty five
32:04
Speaker 2: or four hundred and fifty baseball writers who vote, and
32:07
Speaker 2: that fifty person panel.
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Speaker 1: Do they need to expand it?
32:10
Speaker 2: Not to the Heisman comical levels, but do they need
32:13
Speaker 2: to expand it to get a bigger cross section of voters?
32:17
Speaker 1: Yeah?
32:17
Speaker 2: I wonder how many female voters are there for the
32:19
Speaker 2: Pro Football Hall of Fame.
32:20
Speaker 1: Probably not many, No, not many.
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Speaker 4: And I know I saw somebody put out like every
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Speaker 4: one of the guy's names or whatever who were on there.
32:26
Speaker 4: I thought the weird one was the guys that were
32:28
Speaker 4: retired next to it, where it's like, yeah, like there
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Speaker 4: you go.
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Speaker 2: That's part of the thing with baseball is like, okay,
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Speaker 2: if you're retired, you can have a vote for now.
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Speaker 1: I think it's like ten years and then you're out
32:37
Speaker 1: or something.
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Speaker 4: So, but would they consider you retired because you're I'm
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Speaker 4: still an active message Okay, I'm still in it.
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Speaker 1: I'm not onnary yet. I'm okay active because like they're
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Speaker 1: they're to me.
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Speaker 4: Those are two totally different distinctions, Like you're still working
32:49
Speaker 4: in the media doing a show like Jerry Dulac who
32:52
Speaker 4: does it in Pittsburgh. He writes for The Post Gazad
32:55
Speaker 4: does the Pittsburgh Steelers pre game and stuff like that.
32:57
Speaker 4: But he's been I think a voter for over for
33:00
Speaker 4: twenty years. Howard Balls Are Out in uh Arizona is
33:03
Speaker 4: a phenomenal one and does the Hall of.
33:05
Speaker 1: Fame radio show.
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Speaker 4: But that's like the reason why he continues in the
33:09
Speaker 4: media is for how much he is dedicated to the
33:11
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame. That was the weird That was the
33:14
Speaker 4: one where it was you could feel those people felt
33:18
Speaker 4: like Gary Myers. I was going at it with folks online, right,
33:21
Speaker 4: and I like whatever Gary Myers as the as the
33:24
Speaker 4: pitchforks out because he's entertaining on that app Ye, but
33:28
Speaker 4: there were there were a lot of staunch defenses of
33:30
Speaker 4: the entire collective.
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Speaker 1: While saying, hey, by the way, I wasn't the guy.
33:35
Speaker 2: By the way, I was the guy everybody who's everybody
33:38
Speaker 2: who's in the room and votes and addressed it said
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Speaker 2: I'm shocked Bill Belichick didn't get.
33:42
Speaker 4: It, so this part must not be And maybe we
33:45
Speaker 4: should talk to Pete about this because he'd be able
33:47
Speaker 4: to actually explain it to us. So when they do
33:49
Speaker 4: the vote, they do the collection and the conversation and
33:53
Speaker 4: the back and forth, but then they do a ballot
33:56
Speaker 4: that nobody has any.
33:57
Speaker 2: Idea of secret ballot. There's no clue in, you know,
34:00
Speaker 2: like eight to ten hour deal. Oh geez, so you're doing.
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Speaker 1: The same thing. Oh you're doing this, and I continue
34:05
Speaker 1: doing the same thing.
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Speaker 3: The source of this whole deal is like, now people
34:09
Speaker 3: can come at their voters on it, and people don't
34:12
Speaker 3: want the smoke. And that's the source of this whole deal.
34:15
Speaker 3: Back in the day, nobody knew the voters were nobody cared,
34:17
Speaker 3: so people felt their vote was protected and safe to
34:19
Speaker 3: the secret and they were gonna get you see.
34:21
Speaker 2: The Hall statement like they're more pissed about the leak
34:24
Speaker 2: than they are.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and I believe, and I was getting some pushback,
34:28
Speaker 3: but I've I've said this and we've argued about it.
34:30
Speaker 3: When it comes to baseball of them, I think secret
34:32
Speaker 3: ballots important because if we're texting the integrity of people
34:34
Speaker 3: being able to vote freely without the war about being
34:37
Speaker 3: bullied or backlash, it's just a Hall of Fame vote,
34:40
Speaker 3: it's not. But I don't.
34:41
Speaker 4: Know that it's being bullied if you are asked for
34:44
Speaker 4: an explanation, Yeah.
34:46
Speaker 3: But do I have to go give an explanation if
34:48
Speaker 3: people want to leave a poll and there's pressure to
34:51
Speaker 3: be like with the group and to be like, you know,
34:53
Speaker 3: to not have your yes.
34:55
Speaker 4: But when you're talking about inclusion into the Hall of Fame,
34:58
Speaker 4: I think you should be able to give a statement
35:00
Speaker 4: as to why this was the vote.
35:02
Speaker 1: Then you choose if you choose to. I don't be
35:05
Speaker 1: required to choose to.
35:06
Speaker 4: Yeah, I disagree with that premise, Like, if you're going
35:08
Speaker 4: to be voting for something that has this kind of weight,
35:10
Speaker 4: then you should be Then you should feel confident enough
35:13
Speaker 4: if you're putting somebody's career in legacy on the line
35:16
Speaker 4: to explain.
35:16
Speaker 3: It to who though, I mean, like who does that
35:20
Speaker 3: for the other players that don't get voted in? Who
35:22
Speaker 3: is it satisfied to the fans? Like do you have
35:24
Speaker 3: to argue to everybody that disagrees with your vote why
35:26
Speaker 3: you did it? And then therefore they had the right
35:28
Speaker 3: to say, look, it doesn't matter if you disagree with it.
35:32
Speaker 1: To vote.
35:32
Speaker 2: A lot of Baseball Hall of Fame writers, it's like
35:34
Speaker 2: the easiest column ever, Like at the end of the year,
35:37
Speaker 2: in December, it's like, well, here's my You're not going.
35:40
Speaker 4: Up and fielding questions, you're not doing a press conference,
35:43
Speaker 4: but if you can't put fifteen hundred words together, and
35:46
Speaker 4: that's how you got the job, and that's how you
35:48
Speaker 4: got the vote, to explain why you did it that.
35:51
Speaker 1: I don't agree. I just don't think. I don't belote
35:53
Speaker 1: I ever will.
35:54
Speaker 3: I don't think that'll satisfy people that I disagree with you.
35:56
Speaker 2: I don't know, Like Pete Doherty has been voting for
35:58
Speaker 2: a while, I don't know who he voted for and
35:59
Speaker 2: didn't vote for.
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Speaker 1: Never that's never come up until now.
36:03
Speaker 4: No, but yeah, I think it kind of comes up
36:06
Speaker 4: a lot every year. Like we would talk about it
36:07
Speaker 4: with Pete whenever the Leroy conversation came up, Like, Hey,
36:10
Speaker 4: what what do you think is the difference here?
36:12
Speaker 1: Again? I know, you know we can say that.
36:15
Speaker 4: I'm in the mind I think more people would appreciate
36:18
Speaker 4: and frankly this, I think there needs to be more
36:21
Speaker 4: transparency in the process.
36:22
Speaker 3: I think people agree with you, Billy. I just I
36:24
Speaker 3: just don't know that it will end up being a
36:26
Speaker 3: quote unquote better process. And I don't know.
36:28
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's and it's not going to end the.
36:30
Speaker 3: Right but I think a lot of people can do
36:31
Speaker 3: agree with about it anyway.
36:33
Speaker 4: But then it would give us more more to talk about,
36:35
Speaker 4: right Like, And that's content business saying you don't want
36:39
Speaker 4: to do more content, you should.
36:40
Speaker 3: Want to talk about it if you're in my opinion,
36:43
Speaker 3: if you're right, you should enjoy these conversations. But I
36:45
Speaker 3: think there's so.
36:46
Speaker 4: Much you have something that you're trying to protect that
36:48
Speaker 4: you're afraid of letting out.
36:49
Speaker 3: There's so much vitriol controlling that people don't want to
36:52
Speaker 3: deal with.
36:53
Speaker 2: And that's the thing is like it goes so beyond
36:55
Speaker 2: what people can do, like docs and people and.
36:58
Speaker 1: Just like.
37:00
Speaker 3: In terms of just talking about Hall of Fam can't
37:01
Speaker 3: It's one of my favorite things to talk about because
37:03
Speaker 3: I love sports we thought about all the time. I
37:05
Speaker 3: love those discussions because I'm into it. But like the
37:09
Speaker 3: whole that part of it is when it gets ugly
37:11
Speaker 3: and people don't want to.
37:11
Speaker 1: Deal with it.
37:12
Speaker 4: So if you're doing that for somebody talking about a
37:14
Speaker 4: kindergarten like this, this stuff actually matters, Like I.
37:19
Speaker 1: Hate to say it. If you can't, if you.
37:21
Speaker 4: Can't explain yourself, that's a fair point you, then you
37:23
Speaker 4: should then I believe you should give it to somebody
37:26
Speaker 4: that feels confident enough in their belief in their process
37:29
Speaker 4: to explain.
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Speaker 1: There's something about it.
37:30
Speaker 2: Part of the thing of the backbone of our democracies
37:33
Speaker 2: when you go in and you go behind that curtain
37:35
Speaker 2: to fill out your ballot.
37:37
Speaker 4: But this is one. But everybody's allowed to do that.
37:40
Speaker 4: That's over eighteen.
37:41
Speaker 1: This one. Not everyone's allowed to this one.
37:44
Speaker 4: You are selected because of why you believe you are
37:47
Speaker 4: so ingratiated in the NFL fit to vote and fit
37:51
Speaker 4: to vote.
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Speaker 1: Then explain why and explain why you did it. It's true.
37:54
Speaker 4: It is a different vote, completely different vote than a
37:56
Speaker 4: political election.
37:57
Speaker 2: But the processes, the process is similar to take a
38:00
Speaker 2: quick break and then come back for closing ceremonies.
38:02
Speaker 4: It's the huddle Fox Sports Radio Wisconsin. Right right now,
38:06
Speaker 4: somebody's gotta call to huddle up. Should we maybe start
38:09
Speaker 4: making a big voice guy? Do that like when the
38:13
Speaker 4: center big voice guy Hunter Bombgert throws the hands up
38:15
Speaker 4: in the air. You gotta be five yards away from
38:16
Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage.
38:17
Speaker 1: Had more then, also the one.
38:20
Speaker 4: Coach that yells at the guy because everybody else is
38:22
Speaker 4: playing poorly and this one, poor kid is just gonna
38:25
Speaker 4: get back.
38:26
Speaker 1: Uh, stay it with your chest. How's everybody supposed to.
38:31
Speaker 3: Know to go?
38:32
Speaker 1: What are we doing? Bill's Billy's in coach mode.
38:35
Speaker 4: Raight find out you can find that guy right out
38:37
Speaker 4: of the gates. That's definitely day four a camp. I
38:39
Speaker 4: love you gotta you gotta set a standard of excellence,
38:41
Speaker 4: right you gotta you gotta shock a little bit of
38:44
Speaker 4: excitement in.
38:45
Speaker 2: Eight seven seven seven seven three John on the four
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Speaker 2: one four is the flate Gate? The reason why Belichick
38:51
Speaker 2: didn't get in, Well, it's it's it's a.
38:53
Speaker 1: Raisin in the trail mix.
38:55
Speaker 3: That's a rumor that that's part of it.
38:57
Speaker 1: Part of it.
38:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, somebody noted about Mike Sandos that new rules assuming
39:01
Speaker 3: Belichick and pass grudges. So there you go.
39:03
Speaker 4: Much more Spygate, I think than the Flaate Gate because
39:06
Speaker 4: he was actually exonerates the wrong way of putting it.
39:09
Speaker 4: But he was absolved of penalty in the deflate gate one.
39:13
Speaker 4: He was levied the most you could find a coach
39:17
Speaker 4: for the spygate one as well as they had a
39:21
Speaker 4: first round pick stripped from the team, which was the
39:24
Speaker 4: biggest penalty, most of your penalty the league, gould Levy
39:26
Speaker 4: at that time. So if that's the case that I
39:30
Speaker 4: actually could hear if that's their slap on the wrist,
39:33
Speaker 4: but that would be the one that he would have
39:34
Speaker 4: gotten a flag.
39:36
Speaker 3: And someone still has to convince me that there's zero
39:38
Speaker 3: percent of Jordan being a factor. Someone still has to
39:42
Speaker 3: convince me of that, because I don't think you can
39:44
Speaker 3: talking about it Toobe Photoshop one. I mean, I'm not
39:47
Speaker 3: saying it's a huge factor, but some on the back
39:50
Speaker 3: of their mind had that in the back of their mind.
39:52
Speaker 4: She said, we could just photoshop you in here, right,
39:55
Speaker 4: my friend, who's a photoshop we could do tomorrow on
39:57
Speaker 4: the program.
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Speaker 1: We'll just do it the usual.
40:00
Speaker 2: Well, we've got Luke Bran tickets the last pair for
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Speaker 2: that show coming up at Alpine Valley September twenty sixth,
40:04
Speaker 2: and we got the Voice of the Badgers, Matt Lapee.
40:05
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, save the best for last with
40:07
Speaker 4: the Hall of Famer Matt Lapee.
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Speaker 1: We got to talk about that comeback last night. How
40:10
Speaker 1: sweet it was.
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Speaker 2: Thank you for hanging out with us. We will see
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Speaker 2: you tomorrow, bright and early. At five am. Hope you
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