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J.B. Hixson: Why Believers Need Perseverance In 2025 And Beyond · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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  Welcome to World View Matters. The word for today is perseverance, and we are going to be catching up with Pastor J.B. Hickson of Not By Works Ministries.
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  That's next.
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  Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events, defending biblical Christianity.
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  No topic, off limits.
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  And now, here's your host, David Firazzo.
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  All right, welcome, guys.
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  Great to connect again with one of my favorite pastors, speakers, and J.B. Hickson, Not By Works, brother.
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  So good to have you back. Thanks for your time.
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  A lot to talk about today as usual.
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  My pleasure, brother. Thanks for having me. Happy New Year.
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  Can we, can I get your address so I can mail you some of this snow?
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  We've got more than our fair share. We'd like to ship it up there to Wisconsin. I hear you're short.
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  That's funny. Yes, yes. I'll say, and J.B. is not joking.
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  We are right close to Green Bay, Wisconsin. We have no snow.
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  I'm one of the kind of people that leaves the Christmas tree and the lights up on the house or in the house until we get at least a week's worth of snow on the ground.
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  That stays on the ground. It's just been a crazy year. And you guys got hammered.
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  And these coast gets hammered. Chicago gets it way up north, like upper peninsula of Michigan.
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  But here we are in North East Wisconsin. And anyway, it was just bizarre weather.
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  You said something though before we got on about manipulating the weather.
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  Oh, yeah.
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  You know, there's a lot of conspiracy theories. There are some that are maybe not conspiracy theories.
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  We are going to talk about perseverance and the importance of Christians to maintain composure and faith.
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  And on the word of God and persevere with all the crazy stuff that's going to happen this year.
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  But can you speak to that for a moment?
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  Because we see these bizarre weather patterns and radical changes from a couple decades ago.
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  Yeah, no question. As I've mentioned several times, I only believe in the conspiracy theories that are true.
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  And one of those is not a conspiracy theory anymore. It's a conspiracy fact.
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  And that is called geoengineering or what geoengineering scientists call solar radiation management or chemical ice nucleation or stratospheric aerosol injection.
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  It's all over the scientific journal articles and papers like magazines like Scientific America.
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  There have been patents and congressional hearings about it. Yeah, they're manipulating and tinkering at a planetary level with the weather and the atmosphere.
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  And of course, the stated reason for it all is to save the planet from this existential threat of climate change.
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  But reality, there's always a more nefarious goal here.
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  So yeah, a lot's going on here recently with the devastating fires in Los Angeles.
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  Nothing fits the historical pattern anymore.
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  You don't have wildfires and massive winds in January on the West Coast. It's just unprecedented.
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  And you don't have winters in green Bay, Wisconsin with very little snow. That's not normal.
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  So it's all it's all definitely being manipulated.
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  Yeah, it is. I mean, by the way, he put that backdrop up just for me because I love that.
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  I just I don't know one of those weird people. I love snow. I let's just beautiful. I think the the white just covers everything kind of like the blood of Jesus covers our sin.
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  But anyway, so it's interesting that these things are happening not just in America, but around the world.
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  And do you make a good point? It's the environmental extremism. It's the save the planet.
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  It's the climate change global warming that they're pushing behind some of this.
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  And that's it. It's just so disappointing, I guess, but we shouldn't be surprised, right?
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  The heart of man and that they would try to do something crazy with like manipulate the weather.
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  Yeah, it's getting worse and worse. But that's a great point about the metaphor there.
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  Isaiah said, though, our sins be a scarlet. They shall be as white as snow. And I'm so thankful for the blood of Christ and his atoning work on the cross.
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  And that's what keeps us going. Isn't it, David? Knowing that we can have eternal life because of our savior, Jesus Christ.
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  Amen. Amen. And by the way, we're going to talk about a few, you know, new stories today.
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  Often on. But one thing I also brought up, or I also read this article on prophecy.
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  And it's very interesting in Matthew 16 where Jesus said to the Pharisees, you know how to look at the sky and predict the weather.
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  But you don't know how to recognize the signs of the times. And JB, we are seeing signs.
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  I mean, there have always been signs of the times and prophetic signs. But with 2 Timothy 3 and Revelation 13,
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  so many other prophetic things going on worldwide. I think the church is the church following this.
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  Is the church seeing, starting to see, are we discerning? Are we waking up?
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  The short answer is no. And in fact, that's the, that's the subject of my new book that will be out in March.
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  It's called the Great Last Day's apostasy, how the American church has fallen away. And it's zooming in on this big sign of the times
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  that's often neglected, you know. We all in the Bible props world love to look outward and see all of the geopolitical signs
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  and the wars and rumors of wars and all of the things that the Luciferian elite are doing, such as weather manipulation.
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  But I think one of the things we don't do enough of is looking inside at the church and realizing that one of the least talked about signs of the times is that
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  the closer we get to the Lord's return, the greater there will be apostasy in the church.
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  And it's somewhat paradoxical because the closer Christ gets to returning, the further the church seems to drift away from him while we wait.
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  So yeah, certainly some people are ministries like yours and many others are keeping our finger on the pulse of the signs of the times.
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  But by and large, the church in America, especially, has really no appetite for what's happening right before our eyes.
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  Yeah, and that's sad. I think that's being distracted by the world. Some people have conformed to the world.
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  But there is a remnant praise God for pastors like yourself and the conferences. By the way, a couple of conferences you have coming up, JB, would you care to mention those real quick?
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  Yeah, we are hitting the road in February and we've got multiple conferences in February, March, April, May all the way through June.
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  One of the ones I'm really excited about, we are sponsoring. It's our first attempt as a ministry to host a conference. It's called the North Georgia Prophecy Conference.
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  It's a one day only event, March 22nd in North Georgia in flowery branch, about 50 miles north of the Atlanta airport.
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  Great lineup of speakers, Mondo Gonzales, Dave Reagan, Nathan Jones, Don Perkins, myself.
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  Great musical guest is going to, you're going to be blown away by her worship leading.
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  And it's just going to be a great day to look at Bible prophecy. And so those tickets are already on sale.
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  You can find out more at notbyworks.org and it's right there on the homepage or on the NBW Ministry's app. But definitely if you're anywhere in that region, you know, Eastern Tennessee, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, even Florida, it is worth the drive over.
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  It's going to be a fantastic event.
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  And you can get more information obviously at JB's website, not by works. I'm looking forward to your book because I think you make some very good points. And the one is there will be a falling away.
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  There will be apostasy that is prophetic. It's written a lot about the New Testament. And it's just sad though to come back to that sobering truth that people, maybe people we know will fall away from the faith will fall away from the Lord.
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  But I don't talk about that a lot. So I think that goes along with what we're talking about today, perseverance.
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  Yeah, it does. And you know, I want to clarify from a theological perspective, you know, my heart really bleeds theology. That's my background and my heart.
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  And so I want to clarify that contrary to what a lot of people teach falling away doesn't mean you go to hell.
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  It speaks a lot about Christians who were shipwrecked in the faith and fell away.
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  I'm an AS and Alexander and Philetus and others. Peter fell away at one point. Others did.
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  So it's not necessarily a so theological issue or an eternal life issue. Sadly, some believers do fall away. And there are serious consequences for that that I talk about in the book.
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  But we want to guard against it. I mean, that's the reality. And you're right. It is sad. But I guess David isn't that really true on some level of all Bible prophecy signs.
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  We are simultaneously, I guess, concerned about, for example, all of the saber rattling in the stage setting for, say, the Ezekiel 38 and 39 war or things are getting worse and worse.
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  Second Timothy 3, 13. Yet at the same time, we know that all of those things must come to pass in order for God's plan of the ages to come to fruition beginning with their rapture.
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  So it's kind of mixed emotions, I think, you know, and that's that's kind of that balance I try to strike in the book. It's both a warning against falling away, but a recognition that the very presence of a great last day's apostasy should excite us that we're getting close.
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  Yes. Yes. Thank you for that perspective, JB. And it sounds like a phenomenal and much needed book. I'm actually really looking forward to that one. We'll have you back to talk about just the book.
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  But I thought about a couple of scriptures. And I just want to share on this theme, Hebrews 12, too, of course, that we need to continue to fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfect of our faith, who for the joy set before him endured the cross, despising the shame and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.
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  And then I want to go over to Philippians chapter three. I often share this at the beginning of a year, but verse 12, not Paul writes, not that I have already obtained it or have already become perfect, but I press on so that I may lay hold of that for which I was laid hold of by Christ Jesus.
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  Brethren, I do not regard myself as having laid hold of it yet, but one thing I do, forgetting what lies behind and reaching forward to what lies ahead, I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus.
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  And before we get into some headlines and some of these stories that I wanted to look at today, JB, just share whatever thoughts come to mind on that.
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  Yeah, I love that passage for a lot of reasons, but Paul in there, the passage you read that I may know Christ, there's two kinds of knowledge in scripture. There's the knowledge positionally where we come to know the Lord by faith alone in Christ alone and become born again the moment we place our faith in Him.
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  But then we can also deepen our knowledge and grow in our knowledge and become more intimate in our knowledge of the Savior, and that's a more of an experiential knowledge.
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  For example, Jesus said, I think it was Thomas, might have been Philip, but one of the disciples who says, have I been with you all this time and you don't know me?
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  Well, he wasn't accusing him of not being saved. He was just saying you need to know me more deeply, and that's what Paul was saying there in Philippians three.
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  I really want to get to know the Lord better. I mean, obviously, you have to compare scripture with scripture. There are plenty of admonitions in scripture to learn from the past, to grow from our experiences.
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  So it's not like we ignore the past entirely and turn it off like it's a switch. But what Paul is saying there's, I don't want to live in the past.
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  I don't want to obsess over things that have happened in the past. I want to look forward while I wait.
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  The Lord's return to what lies ahead. So yeah, that's a great reminder for this time of year.
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  Amen, brother. And so now one of the stories I mentioned to you before we got on the podcast here, I follow Rand Paul.
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  Who does some phenomenal work, by the way? And he had one during Christmas called what it was at the Festivist's, the Festivist's report where he talked about government waste.
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  And he just dives into the numbers and it's astounding. I think we could save $1 trillion and that's a conservative estimate because of all the waste in Washington.
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  But let's talk about this one, JB, because we've been saying many of us that they, globalists, government, the elites, W.E.F.
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  Whoever you want to put under they are planning the next pandemic. And he put out an article warning about bird flu, a bird flu epidemic.
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  And they're going to try to use this. I mean, we say this to warn people just to keep an eye on this. We don't want to scare anybody. But we just want to mention these things are out there. People are looking into this.
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  And apparently the FDA, JB, the FDA is on board with a bird flu vaccine. So talk about this. And just the Christians need to stay grounded and we need to be ready for whatever might come and not be surprised.
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  Absolutely. Yeah. First, John, for one, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits because many false prophets have gone out in the world. That was kind of the undergirding verse of my last book, spirit of the false prophet.
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  But you know, it's kind of surreal really when when I woke up on January 1st and we had turned the page on the calendar because we talked so much about 2025 in the year or so leading up to it.
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  I have a whole chapter on 2025 in my second volume of those of that series spirit of the Antichrist volume to whole chapter entitled the Luciferian timeline 2025 and so forth.
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  I'll be back and read that. Yeah, it's amazing how they've been targeting 2025 going back almost a hundred years ago in the writings of people like Alice Bailey who 15 times while channeling a demon.
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  She she sites the year 2025 as being a pivotal year from the Luciferian perspective of us sharing in the new age. So, you know, but yet here we are now we're here and it's like, wow, are we ready and are we paying attention and already we've only, you know,
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  a couple of weeks in and we're seeing amazing things unfold with both the incoming administration both in terms of other countries like the downfall of Trudeau.
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  Yeah.
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  So I definitely agree that there's going to be some kind of pandemic maybe not in 2025 we don't know obviously the Luciferians have their timetable that much we know but we also know according to God's word that God is the ultimate arbiter of the timetable.
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  We don't know if what they want to happen is going to happen on their schedule but certainly we would have to be blind not to know that they are setting up for another global lockdown of some kind and I think Christians need to be be aware of it and be careful.
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  I mean, last time we we buy in large the evangelical church in America did not respond very well most of us bow down and worshiped at the altar of government and stopped holding services on Easter Sunday for the first time in the history of this country.
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  I believe we've learned from our mistake but then again I never underestimate the power of fear a fear is a very powerful tool in the hands of the enemy and if they make this next one something even more allegedly deadly and so forth it could it could cause people to repeat their same mistakes.
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  Yeah, thanks for reminding us I mean God is sovereign and we say that a lot but we really need to understand that by faith and with the word of God teaches he is in control and sovereign and our times are in his hands but you had me at Justin Fidel Trudeau.
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  That's hilarious. My family is from Toronto my I mean my in-laws are from Toronto so they have there they've been gripping about you know for a long time but anyway we're going to take a brief pause with JB Hicks and when we come back we'll talk about a few under reported stories of last year and also some headlines prophetic headlines as we look at this year and how we need to persevere as believers in Christ that's coming up on World View Matters.
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  Let's look at some of the things obviously a big thing was the election of November that many of us were little surprise maybe by the outcome and when we knew the outcome meaning the night of which was surprising and then the fact that it wasn't even close even with all the fraud and the cheating and all the shenanigans that go on every election.
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  I think a majority of Americans spoke and didn't like the direction that the Marxists and the radicals were taking this nation your thoughts on that and how just that is kind of under reported how the left overplayed their hand at least in the last four years.
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  Yeah it sure does seem kind of weird I was talking with someone about this the other day that man in the lead up to the election it was all about Kamala Harris here and this and that all of a sudden she just disappeared which I mean obviously that makes sense she lost the election and so you know she's not got much else to do so but still it just seems like in terms of the mainstream consciousness it was just all day 24 seven talk about Trump versus Kamala and then it just sort of fizzled.
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  And I'm thankful that you know the certification in Congress on Jan 6 so went well there had not been a lot about that.
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  Yeah absolutely and we praise God that there haven't been any big reactions from the left there was a big and I think still is a fear of that because we know that there were some assassination attempts of course in the election season.
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  So it's kind of interesting but another thing David that encourages me is I think so many Christians and certainly the friends and colleagues that I have in the Bible prophecy world if they supported Trump they certainly did so eyes wide open knowing that you know he's not perfect and but he was certainly better than Kamala was the perspective and so it's it's been encouraging to me that see now on the other side of it especially with this being just days away from taking office.
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  That some people are raising some I think justifiable concerns about some not all some of the decisions that the incoming administration is making some of the people that are being put in key positions of a leadership like a transhumanist Rama Swami and musk and others so I'm thankful that you know people are not blindly allegiance to a man as of course we shouldn't be.
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  And are sort of keeping their eyes open to say let's wait and see and and let's be open and honest when we see things happening that are not good for our country but let's let's you know be willing to speak out.
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  So what about the fact that the Biden administration has been giving so much money to Ukraine and Iran and let's just talk about Ukraine I mean sure we want to help innocent people that are struggling but let's look at America look at our own country with the homeless and how about our veterans.
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  And how about other people that really need it right here and I think people were fed up that so much money was just signed away and written off here Zelensky over and I don't you take it go ahead I don't think he's done yet I mean the left of course the deep state is very complex it's not just a simple us versus them paradigm.
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  But paradigm your layers of it and the left is absolutely doing everything they can in the waiting moments while they've got power to really devastate and hurt this country.
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  But the thing is we can see that I mean that is transparently obvious to any you know conservative person with a biblical worldview who's watching with a critical eye what concerns me is the stuff that's happening.
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  Under the guise of patriotism and nationalism that is actually also dangerous that most many people are not paying attention to but as I said I'm encouraged that some are I mean our mutual friend Leo Holman Patrick Wood and others are are out there sounding the alarm about hey not so fast let's let's careful what you wish for kind of a thing.
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  So let's talk about maybe some prophetic things that are going on when we look at advanced technology we look at the rise of the beast system I mean that it seems to be just such a perfect setup for the antichrist increasing travel and knowledge the converging signs.
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  This is real in control of Jerusalem that's a perfect sign to so what about Damascus there's so many things over there now the Middle East if you talk about geopolitics JB if you want to quickly speak to any of those.
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  Yeah the technology part is a big one now we've got Brit Gillette on for our monthly premiere member zoom Q&A coming up January 23rd courage folks to check that out it's a membership subscription thing but all of our subscribers get to participate in a 90 minute Q&A live with him.
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  And ask him questions and if you can't join in live you can watch it later but I've been talking to him about this very thing that the technocratic control grid is it's already here David I mean we don't really realize it but I mean way more than just tracking your cell phone and red light cameras I mean that's been here for a while but I'm talking about.
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  In very deep seated ways we are seeing the stage being set for the rise of the beast system and so yeah I think the stage is getting set and it has been obviously throughout church history but we see just an influx or an upsurge of these types of things happening like never before right now.
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  So other way of friends we also had Patrick would on a few weeks ago we talked about techno populism so if you missed that episode of World View Matters please check that out.
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  I just don't want to run out of time and it's down to four minutes already JB before I share this scripture talk about perseverance talk about endurance talk about your eyes on the prize Paul before he was executed he was preparing basically to die knowing his end in second time before.
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  Chapter seven I mean chapter four verse seven he says I have fought the good fight I have finished the course I have kept the faith in the future there is laid up for me the crown of righteousness which the Lord the righteous judge will award me on that day and not only to me but also to all who love his appearing.
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  I want a man who persevered and who had that perspective until the end and that's a good reminder for us right JB yeah and and conversely in that same letter Paul talks about how you know the time will come when the church will not endure sound doctor that's right.
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  They're on desires because they have itching years will heap up for themselves teachers and they will turn their ears away from the truth and be turned aside to fables and of course you know well the the verse in first Timothy chapter four verse one that says the spirit expressly says that in the latter times some will depart from the faith and so.
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  Which category were going to be it's a great juxtaposition there between Paul who finished strong yeah the the fact that's many won't finish strong now thankfully our eternal death he's not dependent upon how I finished but it's dependent on the work of Christ alone and he finished and he said it is finished and he gives us the free gift of eternal life but nevertheless there are great rewards for those who do not cast away their faith but continue to march forward as the writer Hebrew says.
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  So amen brother I just wanted to encourage people again that we wanted to come in with you know JB and I just share some of what's going on and just remind Christians that there will be possible chaos and some potentially overwhelming cultural events world events in 2025 and do not lose sight of the fact that God is sovereign and we need to persevere as believers.
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  He's not up there pacing and we are here for such a time as this would you share just some closing thoughts brother yeah I think you know the how to is important here it's one thing to know that we need to persevere but how do we do that and it's not about you know sheer willpower or pulling ourselves up by our bootstraps or some legalistic checklist you know I you know it's all about recognizing who we are in Christ understanding our position in him.
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  We are in fact part of the body of Christ the new man is alive and well within us and we need to live like a child of the king and recognize who we are and that's going to be harder and harder to do as the world as the church begins to look more and more like the world.
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  And so it's so important that we as Paul said I think it's in Philippians shine like stars in this perverse generation and really begin to stand out so I hope that's your goal as you watch this program and you think about the year ahead everyone is just continue remember who you are in Christ you're a child of the king let's let's live like it and make a difference in this world.
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  Brother thank you I appreciate your ministry so much and I really am excited about your new book and I'm also thankful when I remember when we connected how many years back but I have seen your ministry grow and I praise God with you not only that it's happening that God is expanding your influence enlarging your territory but that you're keeping up.
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  Sometimes right yeah no but by God's grace so so honored to get to do what we do so thankful it's a blessing awesome well brother thank you again God bless you we will keep in touch in talk soon thanks again JB likewise my friend all right guys thank you so much again for your prayers for sharing the podcast and as always God bless you and keep speaking the truth about things that matter.
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  you