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Lead the Charge · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  And welcome back to the boundary Corner podcast along with my
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  partner, Brian siglo, I am Curtis Wilson and this episode
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  down to 301 South Main Street, buddy, big night, man, huge
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  night, big night. Well let's just let's just say
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  it straight up man. Last week we made an
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  announcement that the boundary Corner family was growing.
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  One of our members had been on with us a couple weeks prior
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  shelter and Moss. Are you Sports?
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  Analytics guy love Sheldon. He's going to be joining us in
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  just a couple weeks and a lot throughout the year.
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  But buddy we going to go from a, from a three-minute, from a
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  two-man van to a three man band tonight.
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  And without further ado, We welcome our new co-host.
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  Jonathan tally. Tally.
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  How are you tonight, sir? What's going on guys?
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  What is going on doing wonderful tonight, man?
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  That's the last time we're going to bring you on Midstream and
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  from here on out, we're going to roll it from the gate Curtis and
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  Brian had a baby. And that baby, this is what you
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  got the combination of the combination of Brian.
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  This dally lizard, man. It is so awesome to have you.
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  Now as part of this with, you know, you have such a great
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  voice out there, amongst Hokie Nation, you got a lot of great
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  ideas, a lot of great thoughts. So for those who have not don't
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  know you, let's get a little background.
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  You know who you are where you're from?
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  You know. Etc, etc.
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  Yeah, so I'm nobody cause I'm seeing my name.
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  Scroll across the bottom. It says welcome aboard.
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  Jonathan tally. Nobody calls me that.
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  So yes, my real name is Jonathan tally and everybody, the cosmi
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  tally or JT, but I've been in Alabama, my whole life.
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  Born and raised here. Small town called Columbia and
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  Alabama, went to a small, high school college, Shelby County,
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  High School, After High School with the Jacksonville State
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  playing, you know, basketball, baseball and football.
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  My you know years coming up and then got pretty serious about
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  football. In high school ended up having a
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  severe knee injury and figure it out.
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  I didn't love sports as much as I thought I did.
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  So I didn't progress with with football after that injury MCL
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  ACL and PCL and this is well so all that up everything.
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  Everything It's moldy, you tore it up, exploded in this was, you
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  know, 2004. So yeah medicine was a little
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  bit different so still went to school still, you know, partied
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  a lot and had some fun but again been here my whole life, I got a
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  brother that's a little bit older than me.
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  He's about 12 years older than me when he graduated high
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  school, he went to the Navy like Graduated one day went to the
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  Navy, the next. So he was stationed up in
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  Norfolk, Virginia and visiting him and getting stuff from him,
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  getting care packages from him, all consisted of Virginia Tech
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  stuff. So, Him being a teen be being
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  six at the time. You know, I kind of took to the
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  to the Hokies back then and yeah, of course, who doesn't
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  love Michael Vick in the Vick family.
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  Once you start watching the Hokies and there on the field.
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  So I've been following the following the following the
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  Hokies ever since man and been crying ever since as well.
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  I guess that's true. That's true.
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  It is a real tears. Let me ask you real quick just
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  because you know, you played, obviously you played at a good
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  enough level to get a Collegiate scholarship.
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  To an FCS school. What positions did you play?
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  Just so when you chime in and say something about it, like all
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  right. Y'all listen, he ain't just a
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  guy that's talking shit, right? Yeah, hehe.
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  I do a lot of that. I do a lot of that.
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  You know what? I'm watching the game and I'm
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  critiquing. That's why I start looking, you
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  know. It's a lot of us, a lot of
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  positions on the field at a glory positions that we all
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  follow. But you know, I know guys like
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  me and Brian when you've been in those trenches man, you you
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  don't forget them. So I'm looking at that line a
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  lot of times and looking at the tight ends and things like that.
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  So it's been good though man. We've had some we've had some
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  Some fun times. I'm like you said, I knew you
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  guys for three to four years now and I'm definitely excited to be
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  here, man. It's a, sometimes it's a real.
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  Like I said, even just seeing your name going across the
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  bottom is kind of surreal to be like, okay, I'm going to pop,
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  I'm a part of a podcast, you know.
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  I had to tell some friends and family had to go to a birthday
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  party earlier. Hey man, I got to get home.
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  I got a record Iraq. When I love that.
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  Yeah, we love having you aboard. It's been something that we've
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  been kind of talking about for a while and we're glad add to be
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  able to put it in motion and bring some of this new content
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  out there to the, to the listeners, to the listeners.
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  All right, so we go, we gonna go and roll call here because we
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  got to find out yours. Brian.
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  Your first game in Layton stadium was yeard game.
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  I was in Rutgers. It was 02.
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  The Kevin Jones. Insane got trapped in a corner
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  running, cut it back as the game.
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  His first. Yes, sir.
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  Yes, sir. I was 0. 3 U CF D Hall playing
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  everywhere. Literally that game my eye
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  buddy. God Rest, his soul, Brian
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  Wilkerson and a friend of ours, Blair Waldorf took me to that
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  game now 20 years ago. So tally.
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  You got to tell everybody what was your first game?
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  And Lanes, 2016, 2016 2016 Miami came to town.
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  I think it was a Thursday. It was a Thursday night game.
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  She's like a great game to go to man, a great game to go to
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  Thursday night, Lane Stadium, me and a buddy.
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  We went to college together. He's a tech fan as well.
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  He's not as active on social media, but we've been up to then
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  up to Blacksburg a couple of times together and we knew
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  Nobody we just said you know we've been Virginia, Tech fans
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  all through college and we make enough money to go to a game.
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  Let's go to a game. So here we go.
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  Came up to the Miami game and it was a week, his car.
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  I remember we parked, I can't remember what the story is but
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  it's a store that's like on the other side of the bookstore like
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  a gas that it's not really a gas station, I don't think.
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  But it looks like a gas station. Okay.
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  In school I don't know what it's called though.
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  But it's on the same side of the road as the bookstore, but just
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  maybe a block down the road and we parked in his car got tired.
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  Well, it applies that was our first introduction to Blacksburg
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  and and the cops there. So from his fourth are, you will
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  let our sponsor at Main Street Pharmacy.
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  There know you're in town, so you can just park over.
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  Yeah, Jeremy what he drives. Orange Challenger.
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  Oh man, it wasn't it wasn't hard to spot.
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  It was gone. All right, so one last piece of
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  the puzzle here 16 Miami, Thursday night game, we smack
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  them down and you've been a fan for a long time.
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  Who's your favorite hokey? My favorite hokey.
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  It's got to be my man, all right.
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  Got to be Mike Vick and I know that's cliche but like I'm it's
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  deeper than meeting just football, you know.
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  Watch Watching him. I'm a bit.
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  Kobe fan as well. And you know, it's not that I
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  want somebody to get in trouble, but to watch somebody go through
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  adversity, and bounce back like they've done Mike and Kobe.
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  It is crazy. And to meet like I met Mike in a
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  in a Cracker Barrel here in Huntsville, Alabama, it's like I
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  can't not say Mike. Yeah, you know, it's a lot of
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  other people in that and I think he told that story the first
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  time you came home with I love you did.
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  Like somebody told you Mike Because in Cracker Barrel and
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  you got in your car and drove, right?
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  Like I'm at home sleep and I've got a buddy who was a head
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  server at Cracker Barrel who was calling my phone and I usually
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  put my phone on vibrate when I when I sleep like I had woke up
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  and went back to sleep and then I wake up and it's like 30
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  missed calls. Look like do do you understand
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  Mike Vick is here and I'm like Michael Vick ain't there.
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  I think he's here right now. So I just grabbed my Mike Vick
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  jersey. He and like beelined it to this
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  is about 10 minutes away. Yeah.
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  But the crazy thing was he told Mike I was coming like he was
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  like hey I got a buddy that is a big Virginia Tech fan and he
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  wants to meet you and he's like tell him to take his time, just
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  will hang out till he gets here. So that was pretty cool man and
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  he was like, so down to earth Marcus was there as well, but
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  they would just like in there by themselves, just chilling.
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  You know, Cracker Barrel whole bunch of old white people.
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  Why do whatever I come in there? I'm like, got my hokey stuff on.
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  I got my jersey, hold my old, my shoulder and like almost
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  Starstruck six to three hundred and eighty pound man wanting to
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  cry because he's meeting his childhood hero.
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  You know if that means also did was crazy.
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  But that that was a, that was a that was a great time.
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  And again, just for for me to meet him and him to be as humble
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  as he is to. Be everything he's done in his
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  life. It was, it was a pretty good.
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  It was a pretty good experience. Yeah, that was cool him and him
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  hanging out to you got there to like, oh yeah.
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  Yeah, take your time. We'll be here hanging.
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  We just be here hanging at the Cracker Barrel in the middle of
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  Alabama. Yeah, just gonna hang out here.
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  No way. People eat chicken fried steak
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  next to him. Yeah, yeah exactly.
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  You got Marcus and Mike walking in with Lewis bags and Now, once
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  I started taking pictures, I think people started like, he's
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  somebody famous. Let's figure out what's here
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  today. I just guys don't take long
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  after that. I got my I got my signatures and
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  left. There you go.
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  Thanks, thank you for waiting for me.
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  Thank you, thank you, thank you. Yeah, we'll go home because I
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  know you want to probably eat and go back to wherever you go.
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  All right. Well tally again, it's awesome.
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  That you are now going to be joining us and you know what, we
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  thought we had this rundown. We got together about what 9:00
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  this morning went through thing. Things.
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  Hey, we ready to go and of course what happens this
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  afternoon that the breaking news comes out, Andy bitter.
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  First reported it, come from Justin Williams at the athletic
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  that quarterback coach Brad. Glenn is going to be taking over
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  as the Cincinnati. Bearcats offensive coordinator
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  and quarterback coach and a statement from Brent pry.
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  He just basically says he wants to congratulate Brad on his new
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  opportunity at Cincinnati as the o.c.
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  He rises long-standing relationship with Scott
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  Satterfield to coach at Sensi, who was previously at
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  Louisville. Basically, a lot of time with
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  them their he's thankful for bread and supporting his career
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  and they appreciate his family's time and wish him the best.
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  It's really late in the process but I won't blame Brian for this
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  because his Colts decided to go higher the Cincinnati.
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  OH see just a couple days ago, it's my fault.
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  Okay, I guess be real y'all. It is not the best time.
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  We are about three weeks away, right?
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  I'm on a new computer here. What?
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  Three weeks away from Spring ball.
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  Getting real four weeks away. Yeah. 34 weeks away from pretty
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  cool dolls. Yeah.
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  From getting going and now we're at a point where we're going to
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  have to bring in a new quarterback coach or someone may
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  be an offensive analyst and we've got to figure this out.
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  So Tally, I'll leave with you. When you, when you read the
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  stuff they what was your first couple thoughts?
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  I'm a little different man. You know, I was like, so what
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  I'd say it like that, but it was like, I didn't really have a
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  feeling toward it because I haven't paid much attention to
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  brag. Liam, I'm sure he's a great
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  coach of great guy for him to get a raise and, you know, to go
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  up in job because I think he's also see where he's going right
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  now. Yeah, I'm sure he's got some
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  skill. But I hadn't I hadn't seen his
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  value at Virginia Tech yet. So it wasn't like, it was crazy
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  news to me that he was leaving. Again not great timing.
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  So that is a little bit alarming.
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  Like, what are we going to do in typical Virginia Tech fashion?
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  They're probably going to hire from within promote somebody
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  until next year or something, but when you talk about, maybe
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  recruiting or even some of the primary pieces that he was
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  coaching a lot of times they mentioned, Bow and more than a
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  mentioned. Glenn are from what I heard.
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  So it wasn't it wasn't up in arms, you know what I'm saying?
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  Like you're somebody would have said Chris Marvin's leaving
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  today or Tyler Bowens leaving today.
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  I would have been like oh there's a season, you know what
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  I mean? We're going to hit me a little
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  different, got you. They said when they said Glenn
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  is leaving, it was just like okay we gotta replace him but
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  yeah, I know for what we are. I think we are.
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  Okay, got it Ron. Yeah, I kind of felt separately.
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  I mean, I was looking at it and I was like, all right, well,
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  because I'm kind of indifferent. All the value that brag Glenn
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  was bringing at this point, because when we looked at it, we
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  saw We looked at it. We got not the greatest output
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  last year but you weren't working with a whole lot but
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  Brad hadn't done a whole lot on the recruiting Trail either.
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  You know a lot of the guys that have been brought in even
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  quarterbacks had been you know Bowen guys so especially we look
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  at our own drones in particular that was a guy that Boeing went
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  out there. He got to bolster up the
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  quarterback room so when we look at it from that perspective you
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  know a lot of lot of my opinion on This is good or bad for the
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  Hokies. Give depend on who the next guy
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  is, if it's a internal promotion, then it's probably a
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  net -, yes, we're probably looking at a drop off in terms
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  of overall coaching ability. Whether we're you know, getting
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  a little bit of that back on some of the recruiting side,
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  that's to be seen. But on the from that front,
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  that's when it would be a negative.
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  But if we go out and get somebody that has some, you
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  know, either The G5 or power 5 experience to come in and take
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  that role. Then I think that might
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  potentially be a net positive. Especially if that person is
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  shown some aptitude on the recruiting Trail before us and
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  especially if they've been recruiting in this footprint.
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  Yeah, I mean I'm with y'all on the way, I mean, I don't like
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  the timing of it, but as far as Brad, Glenn goes, this was his
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  first power 5 job. Brad had been a coach, you know,
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  in the Collegiate ranks since 2005.
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  He was a tap State forever, Western Carolina, Georgia State.
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  So this was his first step up and then having the relationship
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  with Scott Satterfield. Okay.
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  Here's Robbie as one of our coaching buddies, their tally
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  that you will meet soon. Trust me and I think y'all are
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  gonna hit it off, great, but it's also a friend Emma Skye
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  Satterfield coach together for quite a few years up adapt
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  State. They had a relationship.
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  And then you're saying for us is like hey can you blame him?
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  Hey come Be My OC. W pay be in charge of
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  everything. We're going to the big 12 next
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  year. No and if for nothing else it
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  again it's going to look at as far as ramp rago's.
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  It's like well way saying if you come here you might have an
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  opportunity to take a step if you have those connections
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  because you know, even though it wasn't the best output in even
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  though Brad's not the best recruiter, I think Brad's
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  probably a good solid. Collegiate football, coach.
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  But what we're talking about and it's like, we're buying saying,
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  like it's neutral right now, depending on who we hire is, he
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  wasn't in on drones, that was bowling.
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  He wasn't in on Pop Watson, who's the guy?
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  We flip the four star that was flipped at the end of the cycle
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  last time. So, you know, it's like it
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  sucks. It's close.
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  But you feel like we can probably put someone there.
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  Maybe not as good as a coach but maybe a better After which, in
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  this day and age, you know, you've got to be able to recruit
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  and let's talk about Replacements, you know, Brian
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  just through. I mean, Robbie, just threw a
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  name up there that I hadn't even thought about Brian Crispin, a
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  been, a offensive analyst you for a couple years.
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  Does he get his shot? Possibly possibly.
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  Yeah we got it. We have somebody on the roster
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  this done done some of that. I mean Chris has done some of
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  that, we got another guy that's younger than some of that.
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  So we got to probably a couple guys that could be looking in
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  line for promotion and tally. I'll let you go go and your
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  point. Yeah.
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  So my thing is if you look at the quarterback room and you
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  look at the quarterback position from last year, can it get
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  worse? I mean, I'm not.
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  Last note, we have nine interceptions.
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  Somebody internally in there. I don't think that you can get
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  worse than we were. There you go.
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  That's a good idea. And I and also just say drones
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  comes in and he tears it up this year.
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  What what do you do? I mean with the with the job
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  it's true. If the guy who's coaching them
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  that you say, it's his, he done it and then you promote him full
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  term out. It's a lot of ways to go.
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  A lot of ways to go and it's going to be interesting to see
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  what happens in. The next few weeks here about
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  that position and I don't think we're going to be waiting.
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  Long mean, it was our plan is probably come on here.
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  Next week, I had a feeling there's going to be one in place
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  by then we will be talking about it.
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  So let's roll on on last week in this was after tally joined, but
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  he was at work, one day making the bread because we, you know,
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  we are three full-time. We have our professional
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  careers, we got on his husband's, we are fathers.
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  So, there's gonna be times where only one of or two of us all
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  really. That's why you won't Brian Kris.
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  Hyung, was he there when you play know?
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  He would. Okay, what the Ryan, silver
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  filled situation, only one around, but, you know, we have a
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  lot of stuff going on. So, last week, last Thursday,
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  evening, me and mr. Siegel here, got to sit down
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  with starting offensive lineman. Or got to talk with him.
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  So we're going to play that interview.
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  You guys going to play that interview for y'all.
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  Now it was a really good time. Cadence, great, young man, fun
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  to talk to. He might reveal some
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  information, he wasn't supposed to reveal but hey, breaking news
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  in just a few minutes, you're going to hear something from
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  Kate more, that might shock people because I don't know if
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  it's been on boards or talk behind the scenes.
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  But Brian, let's roll the Katie Moore interview.
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  Caden more out of Freedom, High School in Bethlehem,
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  Pennsylvania, All-American freshman in 2021, also a Triumph
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  and IO athlete and Brian, would you say he's number 68 in the
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  program's. Number one in your heart though.
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  We got Caden more jumping on with us tonight.
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  Kate, how you doing? Good.
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  How are you? We do.
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  Good man. Doing real good night, man.
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  Just just finished a little dinner here.
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  The r-va glad you're able to hop on with us and try not to keep
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  you too long. It's Thursday night.
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  We know you got a lot to do. So we really appreciate you
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  joining us. Appreciate your having for here.
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  Awesome. Well, let's, let's let's start
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  right here because we see the pictures.
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  We see the videos from the winter workout.
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  How's the body feeling about a month into the offseason
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  strength and conditioning program?
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  So far, it's been it's been pretty good on the offseason
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  week. We went home for the December
• 22:55
  break out of like a plan to like, lose a little bit of
• 22:58
  weight without start feeling good.
• 23:01
  I'd be ready to run because I know we come back and all
• 23:04
  running right into it. I'm not a good way.
• 23:07
  I'm at a good strength right now.
• 23:08
  I'm like building. So I feel ya.
• 23:10
  It's been good. Do something here.
• 23:13
  That's also and I know that I know coach prior kind of
• 23:15
  preaches that that competition in the, in those strength, and
• 23:19
  conditioning drills. How's that going for you so far?
• 23:22
  I've been good. Yeah, I love coach prize.
• 23:25
  I love the competition aspect. He brings like everything, you
• 23:29
  know, practice, no hunger, drills.
• 23:33
  Even workouts. Like at the end of every hunger
• 23:36
  drill. We do like three different
• 23:38
  versions of competition, whether it be tire pool, Pull a team, a
• 23:44
  team one is the tug of war and then they have the horse and
• 23:49
  Chariot where they put like 500 pounds on a sled put it on your
• 23:53
  back and we just have to pull it.
• 23:55
  Yeah, there's a lot. It's that be fun.
• 23:57
  It's a good way to like end the hunger drill and it off with a
• 24:00
  right. I got a right step but I mean,
• 24:03
  yeah, it's fun. It's definitely definitely good.
• 24:05
  Which of those three is your favorite Well the The Chariot
• 24:13
  one was introduced like last week and I've been uprooted I
• 24:17
  was the first one to do and I don't know, it's weird.
• 24:20
  It's like you're dragging it but like like you're on all fours,
• 24:24
  you can read and you have to make sure you're on the ground
• 24:27
  and like you're pulling it and the weights coming up.
• 24:29
  But like you have to, like it's hard to explain, they get to
• 24:32
  like balance how much rope You Pull and how far it goes?
• 24:36
  Because if you pull too hard at once all going to go forward and
• 24:39
  you're not going to, you're gonna have a lot of rope left
• 24:40
  that A sense. Yeah, yeah.
• 24:43
  So you get like almost pulling it, too, too fast.
• 24:46
  It's going to kind of dig in and like to come with you.
• 24:48
  Got you? Yeah, that's like probably the
• 24:51
  tire pull because that's like one-on-one, you know, you like,
• 24:54
  you're getting it out the mud, like, against another man.
• 24:56
  So I mean, probably Tire pool are y'all going against
• 24:58
  defensive players? When y'all do that?
• 25:00
  Or is it, is it ou Lai en mano a mano?
• 25:03
  Oh, he likes to mix it up. He puts, you know, he'd look
• 25:06
  like quarterback birth quarterback and like quarterback
• 25:08
  battle, but if usually 40 lines, whose University learn Nice.
• 25:12
  Very, very nice. Who's so since we're doing that,
• 25:15
  who's your favorite person to go up against an entire pool?
• 25:18
  Well last year they put me up against my brother.
• 25:22
  That was my favorite person because I mean you know it's
• 25:25
  just brother on brother like the most like pure competition even
• 25:28
  from like your kid that was kind of my favorite one and it
• 25:31
  definitely takes you back probably he's like yeah I've
• 25:34
  been doing this my whole life like exactly.
• 25:39
  All right, so let's let's put it this way.
• 25:42
  This offseason into spring. What's one part of your game
• 25:46
  that you're trying to focus on? I don't know if this is part of
• 25:50
  the game but I never really liked my leadership.
• 25:54
  I want to like become the like the leader of the old line
• 25:57
  leader of the Hogs, you know, embody that leadership like
• 26:01
  mine. So I think last year we had
• 26:03
  great leaders like soil. Listen, obviously they are going
• 26:08
  to be on a fellow. So I mean, I'm the next up, me
• 26:10
  and Parker. So I mean just being a leader
• 26:12
  being vocal though. Being the head of the group is
• 26:16
  basically what I'm trying to get better and we love hearing that
• 26:20
  because back last month we did an episode called alpha dogs and
• 26:24
  we talked about the o-line and we talked about losing about
• 26:28
  losing salicin, and I'm going to be straight up Brian.
• 26:32
  Brought your name up. He said, I think Kane can take.
• 26:35
  Stuff. And and I love hearing that
• 26:38
  that's be drive for because as fans of this football team, we
• 26:42
  know how good you played last year and it's great to see that
• 26:45
  you're ready to step into that role.
• 26:48
  And I know the fans out there going to be glad to hear it as
• 26:51
  well. You, you came to Blacksburg by
• 26:55
  way of Bethlehem, Pennsylvania who was recruiting, you the
• 26:59
  hardest when you were a prospect and what were the factors that
• 27:03
  kind of LED you to pick? Virginia Tech.
• 27:07
  Um, well, my recruiting was really quiet for the most part.
• 27:12
  I mean, I only had 2 FPS offers with Bowling Green and Virginia
• 27:17
  Tech and then the rest were, I think they got 5 STS.
• 27:21
  I don't remember which ones they were.
• 27:21
  Riding Monmouth Robert Morris, some other ones, but definitely
• 27:26
  bullying green. They, they recruited me for like
• 27:28
  a whole year. Like sent me letters called me.
• 27:33
  Every day. Saw me in school every day.
• 27:35
  Day. So yeah, they recruited me hard
• 27:38
  but now I was 12 like, when I went at came in to come, see me.
• 27:42
  That was like, I want to go to Tech like that, was out of my
• 27:45
  mind. So I went to, I went to like
• 27:47
  three camps, I still didn't get an offer, I was like, maybe,
• 27:51
  maybe it was not right. And the Sunday before, the last
• 27:55
  signing day, I got a call from the old line coach place, and I
• 28:01
  mean, they offered me, I went the official on edge committed.
• 28:05
  Nice. Very nice to see and let's talk
• 28:08
  about that a little bit. So you committed and then you
• 28:10
  kind of burst on to the scene in 2021 with the big year after
• 28:14
  being in the 2D during the covid year.
• 28:15
  You turn that into 13 starts freshman All-American, second
• 28:20
  team selection by the athletic. What do you think?
• 28:23
  Played the biggest role in your early success in Blacksburg?
• 28:28
  I definitely hundred percent say Brock Hoffman.
• 28:31
  I mean from the first moment I stepped foot on that campus.
• 28:35
  Like you took me under his wing. Literally taught me almost
• 28:39
  everything I know up to this time.
• 28:42
  I mean he was like the like the leader for me when I was young
• 28:45
  like even my first year like it wasn't.
• 28:47
  He's a senior, I'm a freshman I could talk to me.
• 28:49
  Like it was he saw like my potential and he was like, I'm
• 28:53
  gonna like he kind of said that like me and him were kind of the
• 28:56
  same. In some aspects of our game,
• 28:59
  like, do aggressiveness, the like, grabbing people and
• 29:02
  finishing up. So he kind of took me under his
• 29:04
  wing from early standpoint and taught me stuff that he wasn't
• 29:08
  doing other people. I mean I feel like that was one
• 29:10
  of the big things for me at a young age about a young time.
• 29:14
  I'm coming in here and that has to make you feel good because
• 29:18
  Brock you know for those couple years he was here he was the
• 29:20
  leader of that old line and now he's obviously I mean finding
• 29:23
  success staying you know with Cleveland for a while and then
• 29:26
  being on dialysis Master. I love hearing that though.
• 29:30
  And have you kind of taken that role?
• 29:32
  Have you other than your brother?
• 29:34
  Obviously, I'll have you taken any of the young guys now, that
• 29:37
  because like you said, you're kind of your kind of the older
• 29:39
  guy in that room now. Yeah, I mean, I'm trying my, I'm
• 29:43
  like I'm trying to, like, learn how to be that lead to learn how
• 29:46
  to be the guy that like shows the other guys, the way to go.
• 29:51
  Yeah, I say I'm sure. Yeah, I'm trying.
• 29:53
  That's that's why I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying to learn
• 29:55
  how to do it. I should say.
• 29:57
  Nothing in that. Absolutely.
• 29:59
  Absolutely. You know let's talk let's keep
• 30:02
  talking about the offensive line a little bit here.
• 30:04
  We know that there was some up and downs last season but the
• 30:07
  ship kind of steadied out towards the end of the season.
• 30:11
  Were there any shifts in philosophy or Preparation?
• 30:14
  That kind of allowed the offensive line unit to jail in
• 30:17
  November? Um, I'd say coach Rudolph was
• 30:24
  the real reason for any gel and he really just, he puts people
• 30:28
  together and practice and he pretty much figures out who's
• 30:31
  the best on which side. So he thought Jesse was good
• 30:34
  with Silas and he thought I was going Parker because me and
• 30:36
  Parker we played last year. I think we started 66 out of the
• 30:42
  12 or 13 game and we I mean I feel like we measure pretty
• 30:45
  good, so he wanted to keep us together and so I was already
• 30:48
  had the left path. Sprouts.
• 30:49
  I mean like that was one of the driving forces in the gentleman
• 30:55
  is is he looking at any sort of position changes or anything
• 31:01
  like that across the guys that are returning this year or kind
• 31:04
  of cross training folks in different positions?
• 31:07
  Yeah. So I've adopted the center Rule
• 31:11
  and me and like me and Braylon I've basically been rotating but
• 31:15
  I'm trying to like, pick up and be the, like, the center, From
• 31:19
  like for this year. So I'm trying to, I've never
• 31:23
  been like a center, I'm never like Snap.
• 31:25
  So I mean I've been practicing since the end of the season.
• 31:29
  So yeah, I know. I've definitely gotten better
• 31:32
  at, I know, like, all the technical stuff.
• 31:34
  So, basically, just trying to figure out like, how to get
• 31:38
  better at that position because I know I've been a guard, I was
• 31:41
  a tackle in high school like I believe.
• 31:43
  But yeah, kind of like yeah. And it kind of slowly moving
• 31:49
  Moving down the line, right? Get moving down the line.
• 31:52
  Exact, man you're gonna have like everything on your resume
• 31:54
  by the time. It's, you know you know maybe
• 31:57
  even next year at this time, going into the going into the
• 32:00
  draft, like I played center, I played guard, I played left, I
• 32:03
  played right, I'll pay tackle, I can do anything.
• 32:05
  You want that good that you do? You have had two coaches since
• 32:11
  being here, you know, coach coach, Vance, Vice.
• 32:15
  And now one year under coach Rudolph, what's the one thing?
• 32:19
  You learn from each of those gentlemen, that has helped you
• 32:22
  become a better player. I definitely say my career.
• 32:29
  I think it was a blessing that I had code advice in my first two
• 32:33
  years because he taught me like grittiness, like he taught me
• 32:37
  like, I don't know, like, his mentality was like killed.
• 32:42
  Like he taught me how to be like, a warrior like young age.
• 32:46
  Doesn't matter. Like you just put your head down
• 32:48
  and work. It wasn't.
• 32:50
  It wasn't much technique to it, but you were hitting people
• 32:53
  every day with your head. So and then Coach Rudi comes in
• 32:58
  and he's all technique. So I mean I'm learning all the
• 33:02
  hand, placement feet placement like everything.
• 33:07
  I need to know to build me into the complete.
• 33:09
  Lineman that makes sense. But now say this could.
• 33:11
  Yeah so I mean you talked about being a leader but you also play
• 33:16
  along alongside your brother there he was he got a lot of run
• 33:21
  last year at left guard. What's it Like having your
• 33:25
  little brother on the team. Just being able to play beside
• 33:32
  him. I know, is that something that
• 33:34
  you have kind of been experiencing for a while and
• 33:36
  it's just kind of a natural progression or is it something
• 33:39
  that that takes getting used to? Well, I mean when he started
• 33:43
  getting recruited, he's not getting some big offers like,
• 33:46
  you know, bigger than mine obviously.
• 33:48
  Yeah. Like pit and you know, West
• 33:50
  Virginia is. I was like, I don't know.
• 33:52
  But I was basically like you need to come here.
• 33:54
  Like you need to like be a part of this because it's like we're
• 33:56
  building something. But yeah, it's an awesome just
• 34:00
  like high school. There's a chemistry there.
• 34:03
  We're basically like the same person to me.
• 34:06
  We have like the same characteristics.
• 34:08
  Like the same like everything. Like what?
• 34:11
  Laughs, that was the same thing. Like I feel like our
• 34:14
  aggressiveness is the same thing.
• 34:15
  Like, I don't know. I feel like we're just the same
• 34:16
  person so it's just easy to like be next to him because iron oh
• 34:20
  he's like he's going to do. Man, I love hearing
• 34:24
  aggressiveness and emptiness because I can remember bronze
• 34:27
  the tape near here. I can't look at football team,
• 34:29
  but I don't have that skill Braun does and I can remember
• 34:33
  him. Remember the first time you
• 34:34
  looked at Caden stay because that was the like, one of our
• 34:37
  first episodes like nasty trials, people doesn't stop
• 34:42
  until literally two seconds after the whistle.
• 34:45
  And then when we recruited Braylon it was just you said it
• 34:48
  was the same way. Like so when I hear it's like
• 34:50
  you're the same person on the football field.
• 34:51
  Y'all definitely. ER, but playstyle definitely
• 34:54
  very similar. So, I mean, I definitely tell
• 34:56
  you came from the same spot as last year.
• 35:03
  Y'all are on the field at the same time.
• 35:04
  And I know you've done that your whole life, but when there's,
• 35:08
  you know, a bust a big run and you see it on tape.
• 35:11
  And I know, I know that's technical.
• 35:12
  That's work for y'all. But is there like a spot where
• 35:15
  it's like, oh, look at us. Look at the, he got the combo,
• 35:18
  he got up field. I held the guy turned light.
• 35:20
  What's that feel knowing That's Blood on the other side, a
• 35:24
  little, it's definitely cool. I mean, Sunday, is the day that
• 35:28
  we come in and I'll watch like, like the tape together as
• 35:33
  offensive line. It's definitely cool to like see
• 35:35
  him like progress because he started here as a d lineman in
• 35:40
  the sun. Yeah.
• 35:41
  They made him in or in the spring and then they made him
• 35:43
  into a whole Amin. They brought him to the old one
• 35:47
  for the summer. The spring summer.
• 35:49
  Yeah. And not see how much he's grown.
• 35:53
  Up to this point is this like that's the best thing for me
• 35:55
  like when he first got to wanna, I mean I know he was gonna be
• 35:59
  ready to block like you know, like norell Pollard or Rio.
• 36:04
  But I mean he was ready. I mean I don't know.
• 36:07
  I feel like that's the best thing just seeing this growth
• 36:08
  and see how mature he's become and even like being like a Lily
• 36:13
  Young leader. So I mean, I feel like Samson
• 36:16
  and it's awesome. I got.
• 36:18
  Yeah, because he would have, you would have picked it up pretty
• 36:19
  quick because, you know, you talk about eating those There's
• 36:23
  not a ton of of time to kind of get that learning like spring is
• 36:27
  when a lot of that install happens when a lot of the kind
• 36:29
  of the building blocks are there and he was a youth on defensive
• 36:32
  line that whole time. So it's awesome.
• 36:34
  Seeing how quick he was able to pick that up and be a
• 36:36
  contributor his first year on offensive line for the Hokies.
• 36:39
  That's awesome. Now, I have a question for you.
• 36:42
  Did you were you and Coach Rudi? Gudde, I'll see you saying.
• 36:45
  Listen, you got to get him over here.
• 36:47
  You gotta give me. I mean, I've seen some who spit
• 36:51
  on me. Was that bad deal?
• 36:53
  I'm and I just felt like we needed him at o-line more than
• 36:56
  we need him at be like that makes sense and I knew that he
• 36:59
  could like a potential starter or even something we could plug
• 37:04
  in and play early. So I mean I feel like that it
• 37:06
  was just better for him and for the team.
• 37:10
  Yep, makes your team better better opportunity for him to
• 37:13
  get on the field quick. So it's always a good thing.
• 37:18
  Let's let's say as this. So you know, we talked about the
• 37:20
  offensive line room, a lot already.
• 37:21
  So who's the funniest person in the offensive line room right
• 37:24
  now? Who funniest person offensive
• 37:28
  wine room? I mean I'm probably going to
• 37:31
  besides Braylon because that's probably won't be dessert.
• 37:33
  Okay. Yeah, besides your brother.
• 37:35
  Yeah. And you can vote yourself if you
• 37:41
  want to. I'll probably say Xavier Chapel,
• 37:46
  I mean, it's a different humor because he doesn't, he doesn't
• 37:50
  talk that much. So, I mean, you have to get to
• 37:52
  know him for him to talk to you. But once he opens up, he's
• 37:55
  probably funniest Obama known that our o-line is, he like
• 37:58
  dropping the one-liners, like, kind of in the background just
• 38:00
  like, yeah, Larry's one laundry. Yeah.
• 38:07
  This wasn't, this is not on the run down list, but I have to ask
• 38:11
  this, I told Brown, I was the last this earlier today, all the
• 38:14
  offensive, lineman goes to an all-you-can-eat buffet at the
• 38:19
  end, who has the plates stacked, the highest It's the most who
• 38:29
  eats the most on the offensive line.
• 38:33
  I'm gonna have to go with either Jack hollifield.
• 38:39
  There we go. He gained so much weight so
• 38:42
  quickly. Yeah, yeah.
• 38:50
  Or ask because he's massive. So I mean he has to eat a lot.
• 38:54
  So it's either because how big he is eggs or because Jacqueline
• 38:58
  from what like a 250 tight end to infection, yeah, Jack put in
• 39:05
  like 45 pounds since he got to Blacksburg and I think he had
• 39:07
  put on ten or fifteen between when he committed and when he
• 39:11
  got on campus, so he's like plus 60 since he signed, that's
• 39:17
  pretty cool. That's pretty cool.
• 39:19
  Let's let's ask this next so so we'll keep it in the Lyman room.
• 39:24
  What's the go to competitive game in the Players Lounge?
• 39:27
  Amongst the 0 line? 0 has to be Injustice on the PS
• 39:32
  5. All right, so when we do Hunger
• 39:36
  drills, we come in at 5:00 is when they start and they usually
• 39:41
  end around like 8 and then we have to work out groups, one at
• 39:47
  8 and then want to 10. So we have that whole entire
• 39:50
  time until 10:00 to just do whatever and we just go all the
• 39:55
  way up to the players on just play, Injustice, or like play a.
• 39:58
  And so I mean either Injustice or MBA is definitely the game
• 40:01
  that we play. All right, here's the.
• 40:03
  Who's the the character of choice for you and Injustice?
• 40:07
  I'm about to go with Scarecrow, he got the, he got the the thing
• 40:11
  with the chain on it. So he goes far so I would have
• 40:14
  to go Documented scarecrow is the Injustice character for
• 40:19
  Kayden more, right? So it's like this is
• 40:23
  long-standing tradition for? I think just about every
• 40:25
  offensive lineman, or any player we've ever interviewed here.
• 40:29
  We know that basketball is one of those big kind of offseason
• 40:33
  stay in shape stay competitive together.
• 40:36
  Who's the best Hooper in the offensive line room.
• 40:42
  Last year, I would have, said Silas, because he is like
• 40:46
  athletic. Like, I never seen a big man
• 40:48
  dunk, like him, but on the old line, I'd probably like nobody
• 40:53
  because I've seen them all play, and they're all really bad.
• 40:56
  So, yeah, yeah. I see some clips of Xavier
• 41:03
  dunking. Duncan, pretty good.
• 41:05
  I don't know if he's got a got any sort of other games?
• 41:08
  Is he's a playmaker. Or he can do anything else.
• 41:11
  He can definitely throw it down a little bit.
• 41:14
  Yeah, he said he could dunk. I'm not till I told him to go up
• 41:16
  and dunk by me his knee. Sorry, I don't know.
• 41:18
  I don't know if he said, not right now, not right now, I'll
• 41:22
  show off later. What is your go-to spot in
• 41:34
  Blacksburg? Go to Blacksburg, got to be
• 41:37
  Chipotle. Probably probably like three or
• 41:42
  four times a week. I have to love the boat with the
• 41:45
  vinaigrette sauce. What's the order?
• 41:47
  What's the order? I do a bowl?
• 41:51
  You want the whole order? Just like what?
• 41:52
  I get just just next to this, the highlights just to highlight
• 41:55
  oh and I get a side tortilla and I put the half of it in a
• 42:00
  tortilla and then I eat that and I need to pull things they want
• 42:05
  and basically That's the move right there.
• 42:08
  That's always the mood talk to you on.
• 42:09
  The side is always the move, get the bolt or t on the side.
• 42:12
  They said, they'd let you put the tortilla on the side.
• 42:15
  And yeah, order the bowl, get a tortilla, it's like 50 Cent or
• 42:18
  something like seven, tortilla on the side.
• 42:20
  You can make your own burrito, you make your own burrito, and
• 42:22
  then you eat the bowl after Jack.
• 42:24
  Thank you. Thank you.
• 42:25
  Find out talking to Tech football players.
• 42:28
  Okay, man. Listen, best of luck getting
• 42:31
  through the west of winter workouts.
• 42:32
  Best of luck in the spring and the fall.
• 42:34
  If we don't speak to you before then, We really appreciate you
• 42:37
  joining us here tonight. Thank you so much for having me.
• 42:40
  I really appreciate you guys having me and I had a definite
• 42:42
  had a great time. Appreciate you saying, you have
• 42:45
  a good one. You're shitting me.
• 42:50
  And we're back. Well, that was Caden more.
• 42:54
  He joined us last Thursday, we got to chop it up with him for a
• 42:59
  little while there. I hope, everyone enjoyed that,
• 43:01
  any of you. So, we're going to kind of,
• 43:02
  we're gonna break things down a little bit here, a little bit.
• 43:05
  First of all, Brian, you didn't tell me, you'd have Mike's, I'm
• 43:08
  over here talking about a off. And you've got to, um, use only
• 43:11
  cat that I was. I was getting there.
• 43:16
  Yeah. Let's let's chat a few things.
• 43:19
  Obviously, some interesting pieces brought up that No about.
• 43:23
  But I want to talk about this first and from both of y'all who
• 43:26
  have played, you know, High School, collegiate ball and I'll
• 43:30
  pitch to Brian first because he was the offensive lineman tally.
• 43:33
  I'm not not, not throw any other bus, but I'm good with it.
• 43:37
  What he mentioned the difference in the ol coaches.
• 43:39
  When he talked about Vance, Vice, really being a lot of
• 43:41
  mentality driven versus Rudolph being a technique.
• 43:46
  Are you shocked Brian that there were issues at that position
• 43:50
  last year? I'm not really shocked.
• 43:53
  So what it's telling me is that there was a lot of things when
• 43:57
  Rudolph got in there and he was like, all right, we got to kind
• 44:00
  of reset the reset Bud. Get back to square one.
• 44:03
  Little bit to build out the technique because it sounds
• 44:06
  like, from from Rudolph's perspective, he's going to be,
• 44:10
  he's going to give you the the building blocks and then that's
• 44:13
  when the mentality comes into play.
• 44:15
  Once you got all the building blocks in place, whereas, in
• 44:19
  sounds like, vices mentality was go out there and be it.
• 44:22
  Dog. And as long as you know the play
• 44:25
  and you're going full speed will work everything else out in the
• 44:29
  wash that's going to be get worked out the film room or
• 44:32
  whatever. So it sounds like there wasn't a
• 44:34
  whole lot of or at least, as much kind of the building block
• 44:39
  techniques, you teenager. He talked about hand placement
• 44:41
  steps, things like that. And, you know, a lot of that you
• 44:45
  learn in high school, but there's, you know, when you're
• 44:48
  Translating that into a new system, Definitely need to kind
• 44:53
  of work on those those Foundation techniques to really
• 44:57
  elevate your craft. So I think a lot of that was Joe
• 45:03
  kind of turning things around and saying, all right, we got to
• 45:06
  get back to technique but then some of the issues come in, when
• 45:11
  your brain, you're thinking too much and you're not just kind of
• 45:15
  getting where you need to go and you saw it more with some
• 45:18
  players and others. I think, you know we talked
• 45:20
  about it a lot here at Last year, Watching game tape and
• 45:23
  things like that. Looks like people are thinking
• 45:26
  too much, we talked about how that led to a lot of the
• 45:29
  offsides we talked about how that led to some Miss
• 45:32
  assignments and things like that.
• 45:33
  It's like sometimes when when your brain is doing a little too
• 45:38
  much your feet, don't do what they need to do.
• 45:46
  Tell me what you got. I mean you mentioned a little
• 45:48
  earlier day to us about you play tight in online and you here
• 45:52
  Brian you know Rudolph techniques versus dog and you
• 45:56
  are like, well, when you're on the line there's everything
• 45:59
  there's a million things going on.
• 46:00
  I see this a lot. That's a lot going on that line,
• 46:04
  man. Anybody who's ever been in the
• 46:06
  trenches and kind of, you know, live that live that life, you
• 46:13
  got a million things going on, you got What about calling
• 46:16
  plays? You got your Center column
• 46:19
  plays, you got their linebacker, moving their line, you got Lyman
• 46:24
  that are telling each other, where to twist and where to go,
• 46:27
  and then you got people to just being assholes, just talking to
• 46:30
  you from the other side. So if you haven't been in that
• 46:34
  world, you know, it's easy to say, well, how do they jump
• 46:38
  offsides? But you haven't been down in
• 46:40
  there. You don't catch all of that
• 46:41
  stuff on TV. What you have a million people
• 46:45
  talking And a million people moving.
• 46:50
  And like Brian said, sometimes it's just thinking too much
• 46:54
  because you know what you're supposed to do or you think you
• 46:57
  know what you're supposed to do and something comes in and get
• 47:00
  you off of that or somebody comes in and say something to
• 47:04
  you that you're just ready to punch, you know?
• 47:08
  So it's a lot to goes on on that line and I think we've seen it a
• 47:11
  lot of times what we had and I don't even want to use the word
• 47:14
  young players, but we may have had any experience players at
• 47:18
  certain places that caused some of the extra movements and
• 47:24
  things that we had, especially if you hadn't had a coach to
• 47:29
  tell you, you got to your first step has to, this hand has to
• 47:34
  move with your first step, or when you take this step, you
• 47:38
  have to punch this way. You just have some coaches.
• 47:41
  Just say, hey, just go hit somebody.
• 47:43
  You know, but at the next level I can't remember exactly which
• 47:47
  offensive lineman it was. And I may have dreamed it, but I
• 47:50
  think somebody did an interview and they talked and they said,
• 47:53
  when they went to the league they had a they had to learn how
• 47:58
  to play like they had to learn how to be office alignment.
• 48:01
  Can't remember who it was, but I need to do some research and
• 48:04
  figure it out, but not talking bad about Vice.
• 48:07
  I think he has some good stuff but I don't think he was a very
• 48:10
  technical coach, you know, you gotta listen.
• 48:12
  Listen. The Cadence interview.
• 48:14
  He he pretty much told people just go hit so and when you're
• 48:20
  when you're running a lot more that zone to I mean a lot of
• 48:22
  that's already taught in high school so when you're a very
• 48:25
  Zone heavy scheme you know a lot of that probably came into play
• 48:31
  with why wasn't as tactical? He's like all right well they
• 48:34
  these guys are coming in, I recruited them from Zone systems
• 48:38
  that they played in high school they more or less know
• 48:41
  technique-wise what they need to do.
• 48:43
  I need to get them from a mentality standpoint to a level
• 48:47
  where they can play against Power, five players and that was
• 48:51
  probably how he approached it and it sounds like Joe Rudolph
• 48:54
  has a different perspective, especially because we are
• 48:57
  bringing in more Gap schemes and more complex blocking schemes
• 49:02
  that that we're looking at a front.
• 49:04
  Now, you got to have technique if you're going to do that.
• 49:07
  That's tough. Yeah, so just take me, just
• 49:10
  hearing you talk about it. It kind of makes sense that me.
• 49:13
  We did potentially see a regression last year because
• 49:16
  it's going out there from hey, just go hit somebody to, Hey
• 49:19
  listen, you've got to do the right steps.
• 49:21
  Because if we want to be the most efficient unit, we've got
• 49:24
  to do the right little right stuff, like y'all both said,
• 49:27
  taking the right steps, putting them hand placement, right?
• 49:30
  And when you go from one mentality of wide open and play
• 49:34
  to another mentality of technical Robbie, put it up
• 49:38
  again. Technical Focus will slow the
• 49:40
  aggression at times. It's, that's the truth and
• 49:42
  that's truthful. Just Any line of work that you
• 49:46
  put yourself into and even more, so talked about moving bodies
• 49:49
  and pushing people. All right, let's let's go here.
• 49:52
  Next time or let you leave this tally.
• 49:54
  He just we discussed in the interview with him about how he
• 49:57
  is trying to become a leader in that room.
• 49:59
  That's a big step. He's a young player, but he's a
• 50:03
  three-year starter now, right? Brian was ample numerous times
• 50:09
  last year, he was probably the most consistent got, he wasn't
• 50:12
  the most dominant. The time but you didn't see him
• 50:14
  get killed if he did. It was just a handful of times
• 50:18
  during the year, you think he can become that Alpha?
• 50:23
  Yeah, of course. I mean it comes down to, it's
• 50:27
  not all about experience but it is a little about experience.
• 50:31
  You know, when we go back to talking about just knowing what
• 50:35
  to do in certain positions or even, he's been there for three
• 50:40
  years. He's been, you know, a couple of
• 50:43
  days, DC schools a couple of times and he knows how those
• 50:46
  environments are. So he's able to pass that along
• 50:49
  to the other guys on the team, and he's played a couple of
• 50:53
  different positions. You know, he's, he's practice
• 50:56
  and moved and done a couple of different things on the line.
• 51:00
  So just the fact that he's done that.
• 51:04
  Well, he'll help him become a leader.
• 51:06
  He seems like a smart kid to like offensive lineman.
• 51:11
  I mean, I know maybe on the old shows and stuff.
• 51:13
  Tough. When they talk about somebody
• 51:14
  being a dumb jock, maybe have a brute to just do.
• 51:18
  I don't know what to do. You don't see very many offense
• 51:20
  of lineman that just dumb. You know.
• 51:22
  Like offensive linemen used are pretty smart guys.
• 51:25
  So they that I think that from talking to him and seeing him
• 51:32
  play, I think he can. I think he can take that next
• 51:34
  step to become that leader, but it all comes down to, you have
• 51:37
  different leaders, but it all comes down to what you do on
• 51:40
  that field to this. Get you to the leadership role
• 51:46
  by? Yeah, I agree there and I think
• 51:49
  the big thing until he pointed to it a little bit but the big
• 51:52
  thing is is that he has a three-year starter at this
• 51:55
  point, so when defense or showing a look or they're
• 51:58
  showing a blitz or they're shifting, there's probably not a
• 52:02
  whole lot of things that they're doing in a game that he hasn't
• 52:05
  seen. So he can translate that to
• 52:09
  other guys that may have less experience.
• 52:12
  So that's the big thing for me. Me and also again with with that
• 52:16
  experience comes confidence and with confidence, come the
• 52:19
  ability for others to look to you to gain confidence, right?
• 52:24
  So if he can step into that role, even if it's just by
• 52:26
  example but if he's moving to Center, he's going to have to
• 52:29
  have some of that local leadership as well.
• 52:31
  So he's going to beat need to be making the calls, she's going to
• 52:33
  be baking the shift so there's going to be a lot of things
• 52:36
  where he's going to have to be vocal but there's going to also
• 52:39
  be areas where he's going to need to lead by example as well,
• 52:41
  right? Rommel for the back to you.
• 52:43
  Quit because when he dropped that on us, when we were sitting
• 52:46
  there he's like yeah I've been getting ready to roll over and
• 52:49
  been practicing centers. Just like dude you were an
• 52:52
  All-American Right Guard like freshman All-American, Right
• 52:56
  Guard and they want you to go play center.
• 53:00
  I mean, let me, let me get both y'all thoughts on that because
• 53:03
  it's just like, it makes me feel better because we were worried
• 53:07
  about Cinderella who can play. If he can snap the ball, we know
• 53:11
  that man can play offensive line.
• 53:13
  We know that, but that's a, that's a big step.
• 53:17
  But I mean we all think now goes to the same thing as you saying,
• 53:23
  him being a leader, you know, your Center is your leader,
• 53:28
  nothing happens until the center snaps the ball.
• 53:31
  You know, the center is making a lot of calls there in the middle
• 53:34
  so I mean if he stepping up to be the alpha dog, to be the
• 53:38
  leader. I mean centers a good place to
• 53:41
  start it, you know. He's getting everybody in line.
• 53:44
  He's been there for a while and like you said, it just comes
• 53:48
  down to the exchange. If he can snap the ball, we know
• 53:51
  it can play offensive line. It just comes down to, you know,
• 53:55
  how those snaps look last year. Sometimes Johnny was, he was
• 53:59
  skipping skipping the rock back there, you know what I mean?
• 54:02
  So we got to be able to get the ball to the quarterback.
• 54:07
  Yeah. Got it.
• 54:07
  Got to be able to snap the ball, but as you said, Sally, I mean,
• 54:10
  by default and I've said this to Curtis many times.
• 54:13
  By default your Sinners going to have to have some sort of
• 54:16
  leadership role on the offensive line, even if he's not the alpha
• 54:20
  he's got to have some sort of leadership because when he barks
• 54:22
  you got to listen. So that's good that he's sliding
• 54:27
  to that role because now he can kind of approach it from being
• 54:30
  the guy and also the guy that you're listening to from a check
• 54:33
  and call standpoint, I think this is good overall we had
• 54:38
  talked about, you know, either him or just a handsome being
• 54:42
  potentially the The guys that might slide into that role since
• 54:45
  we didn't see any sort of movement of getting a starting
• 54:49
  caliber Center in the transfer portal at least in the first
• 54:52
  wave there. So we kind of we kind of figured
• 54:56
  it was going to be one of those two just because that gives you
• 54:58
  at least year your opportunity to put your five best on the
• 55:01
  field. But again, if you had to pick
• 55:04
  one, I think, Cadence probably the better choice, just because
• 55:07
  he is the guy that I think folks are going to look to from that
• 55:10
  leadership role to begin with. So it's better to kind of have
• 55:12
  that As your your trigger man there in the middle and that's
• 55:16
  so much about the things that we don't see behind the scenes, who
• 55:19
  knows? They might have been asking him
• 55:20
  to try snapping the ball during practice last year, right?
• 55:24
  Like hey go take 10 reps snapping the ball.
• 55:26
  We don't get to see that. So and we see the portal.
• 55:29
  Why are we taking a center while we taken somebody that can
• 55:31
  really help this offense in line?
• 55:33
  When in reality, it might be he's been working on it and
• 55:37
  we've got Johnny, we know Johnny can play center.
• 55:39
  We're gonna let came focus on guard but he's going to work.
• 55:42
  He's at work at snapping, he's a Some of those techniques that we
• 55:45
  need to do during our practice sessions because we heard what
• 55:50
  several times price say. Hey we wouldn't let some of the
• 55:53
  young guys go out there and fully scrimmage.
• 55:55
  Who knows maybe came ordering some of those scrimmages Kane's
• 55:58
  going to be Center. He's in Black too and snap the
• 56:00
  ball to guys. We don't know that any things
• 56:02
  behind the scenes, we can't see, right?
• 56:05
  But then we see things like this.
• 56:07
  And I mean for us like I love, he said it to us, he wasn't
• 56:12
  afraid. And that's another thing I love
• 56:14
  about Brent pry. Players aren't afraid to have
• 56:16
  conversations with other individuals who had a lie?
• 56:20
  Yeah. And the thing is, like, it
• 56:22
  happens more than people see, it's not a sexy position, the
• 56:26
  lion guard Center is not a sexy position.
• 56:30
  People don't pay attention to it, as much as they pay
• 56:33
  attention to the quarterback a wide receiver, or a running
• 56:35
  back, but you have a lot of linemen that move around and
• 56:39
  play different positions. I mean, of course I'm a Alabama.
• 56:43
  Not Alabama fan but I'm Alabama guy.
• 56:46
  So I watch them battle member football Alabama had think it
• 56:49
  was maybe like 2010 or 11. Don't quote me on that.
• 56:55
  We can do some research and find out for sure.
• 56:57
  But they had Barrett Jones I think was the offensive lineman
• 57:02
  there. He won two different Awards to
• 57:04
  be the best. He was like the best tackle,
• 57:07
  then the best center him. Like the year, they won the
• 57:09
  championship and whatever year it was maybe like 2012 or
• 57:12
  something. And and they usually play all
• 57:15
  those positions and Barrett Jones and also he he had like a
• 57:21
  4.0 while doing all this. Like I said offensive lineman
• 57:25
  are very heady. And if they are asking you to
• 57:28
  play a couple of different positions, I'm sure if we looked
• 57:30
  up Caden Moore's grades, he's probably one of the best on the
• 57:35
  team, probably, one of the best on the team as far as grades go
• 57:38
  because it's not easy to be down on the line and learn all those
• 57:41
  positions. So, all right, Do you know how
• 57:44
  to jump off of this too? Because I just put something on
• 57:47
  there for that. Robbie talked about, you have it
• 57:50
  all. All of his guys practice
• 57:51
  Staffing at some points of their potentially, in an emergency
• 57:54
  situation, ready to roll and tally can speak to this as well.
• 57:58
  But you know, one of the things that we always did, you know, we
• 58:02
  were expected to be at the practice field 15 minutes before
• 58:05
  the start of practice because offensive lineman were snapping
• 58:09
  the ball to any and all people, that handle the ball.
• 58:13
  From a quarterback or perspective.
• 58:14
  So you know you had guys that you know you had your two or
• 58:17
  three guys that were in the 3D snap to the quarterback.
• 58:20
  So then other guys will take turns in that same rotation and
• 58:23
  work on snapping for emergency situations because there are a
• 58:27
  lot of times you know as much as you don't want to do it.
• 58:30
  You know if you get a couple guys go down you don't
• 58:33
  necessarily want your third-string Center out there.
• 58:35
  You might want to, you know, slide slide, slide of guard over
• 58:38
  in there and work another. Another car into the rotation
• 58:41
  from that from that too deep. So Having guys that can snap,
• 58:45
  that aren't necessarily, you know, got the see next to their
• 58:49
  name in the in the program. That's not never a bad idea.
• 58:53
  So if this is something that he's probably worked on to some
• 58:55
  degree you know before this discussion happened at the end
• 58:59
  of the season. Absolutely.
• 59:01
  Alright. Well real quick y'all.
• 59:05
  Braun Telly last time. So you get to lead it this time
• 59:08
  who's your right now, as we sit, who's your five on the line, you
• 59:14
  don't have to put where they're going to be chaplain.
• 59:16
  Hanson more. More Garrett.
• 59:19
  I always, I know, you can go Johnny, don't you kick Parker?
• 59:23
  He kick Parker out. Parker made him mad last year.
• 59:26
  What about you Talan? I got a I mean, I hate to just
• 59:28
  say the exact same that he said, I would probably put Clemens in
• 59:32
  now seeing him on a couple of little List this year, working
• 59:36
  out in a couple of things. So because he has some
• 59:38
  experience I give him a little bit of edge over chaplain or
• 59:43
  Garrett, not sure which one just yet.
• 59:46
  But I feel like they're going to have him start in there.
• 59:50
  How long he's in there? I don't know, but I feel like
• 59:53
  he's gonna be in there somewhere.
• 59:54
  The more Brothers definitely gone.
• 59:57
  I think they got some good stuff coming for us this year.
• 59:59
  Yeah, I'm with Tally, I think clemont's right now over again
• 1:00:02
  because of the experience and just Those of those last few
• 1:00:05
  games, you said Prime set it on here Clements hasn't looked as
• 1:00:10
  bad as he did earlier in the season, like something clicked,
• 1:00:13
  with Joe teaching technique. So, I'm with Talia because that
• 1:00:16
  was, that was my marked. Praise at the end of it.
• 1:00:18
  Was he Market? He said, he's not standing out
• 1:00:21
  as bad anymore and right now. So, all right, tally, we going,
• 1:00:26
  we're going. So we send this video to tally
• 1:00:29
  because he wasn't able to join us in almost the first thing out
• 1:00:33
  into a lie. The text was not about the
• 1:00:36
  center or the coaching Styles. Go ahead tally.
• 1:00:40
  He got a rant Holtz. Hey what is it?
• 1:00:44
  Who eats that shit? I don't understand when we.
• 1:00:50
  All right so where I work is on like a major highway or major
• 1:00:57
  road here. Yeah and you can get pretty much
• 1:00:59
  anything within 10 minutes like go this way you get Popeyes go.
• 1:01:03
  That way you get Donald's. Go that way.
• 1:01:04
  You get Texas Roadhouse, go that way.
• 1:01:06
  You get Longhorns. There's a Chipotle somewhere in
• 1:01:10
  that. Nobody ever says, hey, let's go
• 1:01:12
  get your boat. If everybody, you know why?
• 1:01:15
  Because it's horrible, it's horrible fate that one time in
• 1:01:19
  my life and it came out of both ends and I was done.
• 1:01:24
  I want to never touch it again but besides that it just didn't
• 1:01:28
  taste good like it. I don't know, man.
• 1:01:31
  I want to maybe I need to give it a try in a Another state or
• 1:01:34
  another place. But I was saying I was saying
• 1:01:40
  and I was done after the tally ho.
• 1:02:32
  Real quick. Let's talk about tech pulse to
• 1:02:34
  Miami tonight. 7670 and I'm probably more irritated.
• 1:02:38
  But anything is because that we were sitting here before we got
• 1:02:41
  on what I tell you, you and Robbie going to get along today.
• 1:02:45
  All me, so we fought to Miami. We shoot better from the field
• 1:02:51
  than them. We shoot better from three
• 1:02:52
  points in them. They do get us in free throws,
• 1:02:56
  but, you know, let's just not just this game, they beat UVA,
• 1:03:01
  we'd beat BC. Or lose to BC beat Notre Dame,
• 1:03:05
  struggle with them bad team, lose Georgia Tech which just
• 1:03:09
  made Callie infuriated because he watched that game.
• 1:03:11
  We didn't enough meat number one team in the ACC and we hang with
• 1:03:15
  probably the best team in the ACC tonight.
• 1:03:18
  Can y'all make any sense of this team?
• 1:03:20
  No, no, no. It is so frustrating.
• 1:03:24
  You know, talking with so many people out there.
• 1:03:26
  It's just like it's Dougie had said it.
• 1:03:30
  The other week, this is the best good.
• 1:03:32
  This is the worst good team I've ever seen.
• 1:03:35
  Yep, it makes little to no snow and no sense Fury getting to
• 1:03:40
  watch because, you know, we look at it and relay.
• 1:03:43
  All right. Well, if this team could beat BC
• 1:03:47
  which they should, if this team can beat Georgia Tech course
• 1:03:50
  they should if this team could just win a road game here or
• 1:03:54
  there that's all you have to do that.
• 1:03:58
  Like those are three easy hurdles to clear but we we have
• 1:04:01
  not been able to clear them the meanwhile we get you know you
• 1:04:04
  Get a win. I get UVA.
• 1:04:06
  You're able to pull a win at Pitt.
• 1:04:07
  Like what? What's going on like, say
• 1:04:11
  Italian old many. So yeah, you got so many games
• 1:04:15
  and basketball that people don't like football.
• 1:04:18
  People pay attention to the losses and basketball is like
• 1:04:23
  you get a pass because you've got 30 fucking games and if
• 1:04:28
  you've played 30 different teams, you're going to beat a
• 1:04:30
  top 25 team and I have people arguing with me Saying because I
• 1:04:35
  don't I think Mike young is a is a great fit for Virginia Tech
• 1:04:40
  but at the same time it's like whenever we lose a game, we're
• 1:04:44
  not supposed to. I'm going to say it's his fault
• 1:04:47
  because I'm looking at the team and they're watching rebounds,
• 1:04:50
  bounce right beside them or we're throwing the ball to the
• 1:04:53
  other team. Like if the football team loses
• 1:04:57
  by one point, they're going at the coach every single time.
• 1:05:01
  Basketball team loses and it's like, well, they just they beat
• 1:05:06
  us today. I'm like, no it the effort was
• 1:05:09
  different today than it was. When we go against top talent,
• 1:05:13
  we bring our top game. When we go against
• 1:05:17
  middle-of-the-road teams, we come with middle-of-the-road
• 1:05:20
  effort, you know, Miami's a good basketball team.
• 1:05:23
  We lost by 16 points. Yeah so not saying that that
• 1:05:28
  doesn't hurt. Now in our Where We Are.
• 1:05:31
  Our. But if we had, one knows games
• 1:05:33
  of teams, we were supposed to be.
• 1:05:35
  And I'm using are quotations because every game is different.
• 1:05:38
  But if we don't win those games, against the Georgia Tech's, and
• 1:05:42
  the be seized, when one of their best players gets hurt, we the
• 1:05:47
  the Miami losses don't hurt you, you know, going into tournament
• 1:05:50
  play going into trying to get into the into the tournament but
• 1:05:56
  it's baseball season now. Yeah, I might as well quit
• 1:05:58
  talking basketball. And I believe the baseball team
• 1:06:02
  did win today, which we're going to hit on some of the next
• 1:06:05
  upcoming weeks. We will have Shelton on talk
• 1:06:07
  about that we're going to be paying attention to it.
• 1:06:09
  Obviously a couple other quick things to talk about Hoops wise,
• 1:06:13
  the women Shelton said it on this program couple weeks ago.
• 1:06:17
  This team can be in the lead 18 and I'm going to tell you.
• 1:06:20
  I've watched a couple games here and there.
• 1:06:22
  There's sometimes tough to find women for the first time at NC
• 1:06:26
  State against a ranked Tennessee State team.
• 1:06:28
  And then beating three ranked, they've won four straight.
• 1:06:31
  Teams against top 20 ranked teams this team like
• 1:06:35
  legitimately if this keeps going, there's your best shot to
• 1:06:39
  be watching basketball in the late.
• 1:06:41
  March or the ladies week, Italy and door and they went out there
• 1:06:44
  and just Steve it to FSU and do it wasn't, it wasn't even a
• 1:06:50
  contest. I mean, Duke Duke won the
• 1:06:54
  contest. At the end of one, they had a
• 1:06:58
  lead and it was just they kept. Had it, you know, Duke got a few
• 1:07:03
  few garbage, time things in the fourth quarter, to make it look
• 1:07:07
  a little closer than was but that won the game for three
• 1:07:09
  quarters. Yeah, can you brought in some
• 1:07:13
  good heat, but he brought in some good transfers, you know,
• 1:07:17
  this past year as well and some of the, some of the young ladies
• 1:07:21
  that he brought in were high contributors on the teams that
• 1:07:25
  they came from. It was power, 5 experience as
• 1:07:28
  well. And basketball is a little bit
• 1:07:31
  different. So I don't 100% pay attention to
• 1:07:34
  where people come from to where they're going.
• 1:07:37
  Because it takes one, man to be a, have a good basketball teams.
• 1:07:40
  True. You like, you can recruit one
• 1:07:43
  player and he can play basketball better than everybody
• 1:07:45
  else on the court and he can beat the other team by himself.
• 1:07:49
  I mean, it's a team sport, but if LeBron plays
• 1:07:53
  eighteen-year-old, LeBron goes to the Hokies right now.
• 1:07:57
  How many, how many times did that team lose?
• 1:08:00
  Not many very few, very few, not many two or three.
• 1:08:04
  We probably lost the, we probably lose the BC because we
• 1:08:07
  can't be sleeping. Takes one or two things like, in
• 1:08:12
  basketball is much different than any other sport because
• 1:08:16
  it's so individualized. But back to the Women's
• 1:08:20
  Basketball team, they already had a couple of good players
• 1:08:23
  like from last year. He'll enjoy Grand getting the
• 1:08:28
  kidney is awesome and then they bring in those transfers just to
• 1:08:32
  give that team dipped and they look good man.
• 1:08:35
  It looks it. Like you said, it looks like our
• 1:08:38
  best shot to watch so many for basketball.
• 1:08:42
  Late in the March, so I'll be excited to see.
• 1:08:44
  I mean, I'm going, I'm going to be cheering.
• 1:08:46
  Like, hell, did they go deep into the into the tournament?
• 1:08:51
  Hopefully, we don't get a matchup in the first round like
• 1:08:53
  we had last year somebody team shooting 60% from three.
• 1:08:56
  Yeah, well you listen there, there ain't there is only a
• 1:09:00
  handful of teams that can handle that barrage keeps you 60
• 1:09:03
  percent from three? Just about every team in the
• 1:09:06
  country is losing one last piece.
• 1:09:08
  Not who but wrestling. Since we've last been on here,
• 1:09:12
  crushing you trusting UNC crushing UVA getting the co
• 1:09:16
  regular season Champions. So hanging another Banner the
• 1:09:20
  ACC Championship is in a couple weeks and as much as to me like
• 1:09:26
  similar to basketball, like the rustling, oh it's an ACC
• 1:09:30
  Championship. This is being.
• 1:09:31
  It's like yeah but we're really like it's almost like when we
• 1:09:35
  are really good team like okay we're a really good team.
• 1:09:39
  What is this even matter? Like there's a five or six seven
• 1:09:43
  guys that are going to go to the Nationals, there's a bigger goal
• 1:09:46
  in mind for this much, right? Because didn't makka got hurt
• 1:09:50
  last year in the ACC tournament, right?
• 1:09:53
  Yeah. He got hurt.
• 1:09:54
  You know, Screw his change win a National Title.
• 1:09:57
  So I think it's awesome. That the team is that good.
• 1:10:02
  It's one of those interesting Sports to watch on TV and you
• 1:10:05
  know people saying watching it live.
• 1:10:07
  You get that hype. When you know The match is going
• 1:10:10
  on so I'm going to obviously will pay attention to who goes
• 1:10:14
  to Nationals talk about that. I may attempt to get my buddy
• 1:10:19
  David on here to talk with us 10 minutes, we might have to do a
• 1:10:22
  little recording session. He is a CPA, not the best time
• 1:10:26
  of year to ask that maintenance, so tax season.
• 1:10:32
  Yeah. So the wrestling the head
• 1:10:35
  wrestling coach got paid didn't? Yes, he did.
• 1:10:37
  He got hit. He got dibs on him at PK, get on
• 1:10:43
  him. Yeah.
• 1:10:44
  Hey you cheated wings and beers on Tony Rhodey.
• 1:10:49
  Yeah, always be on Tony. And, but Hey, listen your top
• 1:10:52
  ten program, guys went to Nationals.
• 1:10:55
  They want guys to go to it Olympics.
• 1:10:57
  You know what pay him because that's becoming a spectator
• 1:11:01
  sport. People are paying money to go
• 1:11:03
  watch those things. It's making, it's probably one
• 1:11:06
  of the sports that's close to paying for itself.
• 1:11:09
  The year because getting TV revenues from going to National
• 1:11:12
  Title, plus putting, you know, for 5,000 people in Castle like
• 1:11:17
  paying their, they're doing a good job with fundraising to.
• 1:11:20
  So yes, they are combined that. I mean, they're they're breaking
• 1:11:24
  even probably or pretty darn close to home right now.
• 1:11:28
  And once you have a non revenues Fort breaking even all the money
• 1:11:35
  that usually said to them stays with the football program.
• 1:11:38
  In an extra, you know, two three, four hundred thousand
• 1:11:40
  dollars, you can pay analysts you know, can pump the coaches,
• 1:11:45
  salaries up a little bit, I hear ya.
• 1:11:48
  All right, so before we going to be flipping back to football and
• 1:11:52
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  Now back to the episode. I so back to football talk and
• 1:12:24
  we're going to finally put a cap on the 24 class in a few weeks,
• 1:12:28
  we're going to bring mattei from 247 Sports to wrap it up in full
• 1:12:33
  and talk about the 24 class. But there was one more guy that
• 1:12:37
  committed. On Signing Day, the traditional
• 1:12:40
  sign and day and that was James jannetty.
• 1:12:44
  Six-foot-five 225-pound Edge. Originally from Durham, North
• 1:12:50
  Carolina. Actually I think you played at
• 1:12:51
  Northside, I'll have to confirm that bridge.
• 1:12:55
  Ali went to William and Mary then transfer to a Juco and now
• 1:12:59
  he's with the Hokies. Pretty, highly regarded Yuko as
• 1:13:02
  well. A top ten National four-star.
• 1:13:06
  The top Edge in Juco, y'all decide.
• 1:13:12
  Amongst yourself who's talking first about this young, man?
• 1:13:14
  Well, I mean again, like looking at, I'm not a coach, I'm not a
• 1:13:20
  recruiter, I'm a fan. So when I look at stuff, I look
• 1:13:23
  at a couple things and one thing we lacked for a long time is
• 1:13:28
  freaking size. I got so tired of recruiting 511
• 1:13:35
  defensive ends, you know? Like, come on man.
• 1:13:40
  Seeing somebody, that's 65 seeing somebody that's 64 66 on
• 1:13:45
  the line, makes me feel good. I don't know how good he's going
• 1:13:49
  to be, you know, everybody had their opinions about what they
• 1:13:53
  thought about it. Oh you don't have a ranking.
• 1:13:56
  Oh he's he doesn't have this and then boom.
• 1:13:58
  They said we we think he's a four-star dinner.
• 1:14:00
  Buddy goes whoa well how did we get him?
• 1:14:04
  Probably got to do with his size.
• 1:14:05
  He's bigger than everybody's playing.
• 1:14:07
  Probably a little bit faster than them so maybe he can come
• 1:14:10
  over here and turn up. So again, I like to do
• 1:14:14
  comparisons when you're talking players not same player, not
• 1:14:19
  same body, but kind of the same body of work as came, right in
• 1:14:26
  my head and then left what we got in from Juco, didn't he?
• 1:14:30
  Just got drafted to the Panthers.
• 1:14:32
  Oh I'm sorry. Barney Barney.
• 1:14:35
  Yeah, st. I feel like it could be a bar.
• 1:14:38
  No Type move, you know. Get in the weight room get
• 1:14:41
  stronger. Stepping in learn how to play
• 1:14:45
  the position. Sky's the limit.
• 1:14:48
  Yep, I was looking at him. I feel like he's about 15 pounds
• 1:14:52
  away from being kind of what you want him to be.
• 1:14:56
  I think he's got some good tools.
• 1:14:58
  And as you said, he's got the he's got the size of the length
• 1:15:01
  that you like a defensive end to play with an edge to play with,
• 1:15:07
  you know, looking at the tape, you know, there are some things
• 1:15:09
  that look really good. There's some things that you can
• 1:15:12
  work on I think, particularly about the A gate.
• 1:15:17
  He uses his hands. Well I think he still needs
• 1:15:20
  probably work on some extra moves there, something to kind
• 1:15:23
  of kind of counter here and there.
• 1:15:26
  But when we look at the size that's impressive.
• 1:15:30
  And if like I said, if he can get another 10 or 15 pounds on
• 1:15:33
  him, I think we might be working with something there and he's
• 1:15:37
  got a few years left as well because he came in in 2020 gun
• 1:15:42
  at William &. Mary, if you remember FCS
• 1:15:44
  canceled their season, they played the spring season.
• 1:15:47
  The so technically he's probably going to fall into getting three
• 1:15:50
  more years of Eligibility. So if we're not talking about
• 1:15:52
  bringing him, you know, day one to play.
• 1:15:56
  Like I said, put the weight on this year, which, you know, not
• 1:16:00
  Northern Durham Robbie. He went to Jordan down in Durham
• 1:16:04
  it's a thing but you know, it's putting the weight on its that
• 1:16:11
  and you know, Carrie become aparna, there's a reason.
• 1:16:15
  He went to an FCS school and some people like, oh, why don't
• 1:16:17
  we want an FCS player? Well, some of those guys grow so
• 1:16:23
  those guys show out. But if he went to an FCS school
• 1:16:27
  and especially a William and Mary, he's probably a smart kid,
• 1:16:31
  play football. Somebody probably told him down
• 1:16:33
  there. Hey dude, this is FCS in this
• 1:16:37
  school is very slow to get you in your position.
• 1:16:39
  You need to go out to a Juke own place somewhere because you get
• 1:16:42
  your tape with your size. You're going to get a P5.
• 1:16:45
  Offer in clearly that happened so hopefully that can turn into
• 1:16:51
  something. Let me get y'all feelings on
• 1:16:54
  this reported just a couple weeks ago, Jalen Jones has left
• 1:16:59
  the wide receiver room. So now we're at 13 wide
• 1:17:02
  receivers not 14 and he's moved over to safety and he's already,
• 1:17:08
  you know, got one of those hokey War Year Awards.
• 1:17:12
  What y'all think. I mean obviously this staff
• 1:17:15
  ain't afraid to tell somebody. Hey listen, go to that side of
• 1:17:19
  the ball. You play well, I mean, without
• 1:17:24
  the Virgin too much you know no one what we know here that y
• 1:17:30
  receiver room is competitive. Mmm, and and you've got you
• 1:17:35
  brought in some guys that are going to play and you may have
• 1:17:41
  some People in there that said hey what do I have to do?
• 1:17:44
  Coach to get on the field, there are some conversations like that
• 1:17:48
  and it may have been one of those conversations were Jalen.
• 1:17:52
  Jones may have been saying, hey I want to get on the field.
• 1:17:55
  What do I have to do to get on the field?
• 1:17:57
  And they said, well, let's take a look at this and it looks like
• 1:18:00
  he's working hard. It looks like you said, he's
• 1:18:02
  already got one of those Awards. He may be ready to make an
• 1:18:06
  impact somewhere else besides the wide receiver room.
• 1:18:12
  You know, maybe special teams, it may be him stepping into a
• 1:18:15
  role similar to Divine Diablo. Did you know, again other player
• 1:18:20
  comparison, he may have moved to that side of the ball and and he
• 1:18:25
  might flourish there. So what up what I do like about
• 1:18:29
  it is that the coaches aren't giving up on kids, okay?
• 1:18:32
  You're not good enough. Just go you know some some kids
• 1:18:35
  aren't some kids aren't a good fit for a school but this is a
• 1:18:38
  Virginia kid that apparently wants to be there.
• 1:18:44
  He's made the transition to defense from offense after a
• 1:18:48
  couple of years and he looks like he's working hard to do
• 1:18:51
  what he has to do to help the team win.
• 1:18:54
  I'm hoping that culture continues throughout all of the
• 1:18:59
  rooms and we see more and more kids continuing to work to get
• 1:19:04
  us. What we need to be when some
• 1:19:05
  names and is there Ryan. My big thing is that I love this
• 1:19:11
  because it's an opportunity for a God that is obviously put out
• 1:19:16
  a lot of effort that hadn't quite been able to crack into.
• 1:19:22
  It was right at the back. Edge of the too deep last year,
• 1:19:25
  obviously, with some of the guys that were brought in, in the
• 1:19:28
  offseason transfer portal. Probably they are or lower
• 1:19:32
  heading into this year, but he didn't say.
• 1:19:37
  All right. Well, I'm falling down the depth
• 1:19:40
  chart. See you later.
• 1:19:41
  I'm going to go do something else conversations.
• 1:19:44
  Had with coach and he decided. All right, let's, let's switch
• 1:19:46
  sides. Let's see if I can be an asset.
• 1:19:49
  And one of the things we had talked about earlier and I've
• 1:19:51
  set it on here before and I'll say it again.
• 1:19:54
  I always liked the way, Jalen Jones ran with the football.
• 1:19:59
  After the catch here, an angry, he ran like Anquan Boldin did
• 1:20:05
  when he had the ball. He ran like, somebody that
• 1:20:07
  immediately turned into an oversized running back.
• 1:20:11
  As soon as he got the ball in his hand and if he can That kind
• 1:20:14
  of toughness and that kind of mentality on the defensive side
• 1:20:18
  only. That's a quick transition for
• 1:20:20
  him, where he may be able to be a contributor by the end of this
• 1:20:24
  year and may be able to kind of work into the rotation at some
• 1:20:28
  point next year. And and, you know, as you said,
• 1:20:30
  Talley may be looking to get on the field.
• 1:20:34
  I, divide Diablo did by making the switch from wide receiver
• 1:20:37
  over to to safety. So I'm happy for the man and I
• 1:20:42
  hope him he steps up. Up and that safety is a good fit
• 1:20:46
  for him. Yeah, couple big things about
• 1:20:48
  Jaden just to know out there Hokie Nation, he had not taken a
• 1:20:52
  red shirt yet, he had not taken a wrestler, he played in 10
• 1:20:55
  games in 21, he played in 10 games last year, so if we're
• 1:20:59
  talking about him transitioning, if he does need that year, you
• 1:21:03
  got that red shirt year, right? Hey, learn to position this
• 1:21:06
  year. Let's get ready to get you on
• 1:21:08
  the field next year. So it's not like we're in a time
• 1:21:11
  crunch with him. If it was one of those things
• 1:21:13
  where I'm like, listen, We've already redshirted him.
• 1:21:16
  He's a redshirt junior. He got to play this year.
• 1:21:18
  We have that ability to say like I think what you said Bryan's
• 1:21:23
  perfect. See how he you know, training
• 1:21:26
  progresses. It may be at the end of the
• 1:21:28
  season. Hey let's get you on the field
• 1:21:30
  and get you in game action for it, which will be great and just
• 1:21:34
  best of luck for him. He is an RV a kid.
• 1:21:36
  He played down and TJ under coach Adam so you know it's good
• 1:21:41
  to see they're doing the boys in eight like this.
• 1:21:47
  So now Last piece even though we're going to have to keep it
• 1:21:52
  up on our rundown tally. When we show tally to run down,
• 1:21:56
  we talk about transfer portal. We keep transfer portal
• 1:21:58
  highlighting because it's an ever-growing list.
• 1:22:01
  This one we had to put on here even though he's not taking up a
• 1:22:05
  scholarship and he's going to be a preferred walk-on offer and
• 1:22:08
  that stone Schneider kid coming out of via my multiple time
• 1:22:15
  All-American down at the FCS level last year or Last two
• 1:22:19
  years of kind of looked like this stat line was 20 2120
• 1:22:24
  tackles 11, tackles for loss for sacks.
• 1:22:29
  Three fumble, recoveries last year, hundred seven, tackles
• 1:22:33
  three tackles for loss, only a half sacks of not the explosion.
• 1:22:37
  But clearly a man who played at that level, and excelled is
• 1:22:42
  coming here to one of the more solid rooms, Brian.
• 1:22:46
  I don't know. I know you were going to try to
• 1:22:48
  look at the tape for We jumped on.
• 1:22:49
  Did you get a chance to look at the stone Snyder's?
• 1:22:52
  Take before we have fun tonight. Yeah, so looking at the tape, I
• 1:22:56
  tell you the thing I like is that this guy is really good at
• 1:23:00
  getting off of Blocks, he's a shattered.
• 1:23:04
  Oh he's also a guy that is a sure tackler.
• 1:23:10
  Probably the biggest thing he needs to work on is he needs to
• 1:23:12
  work on his his speed. We've heard that from a Mike
• 1:23:16
  linebacker at Virginia Tech. So, We understand that
• 1:23:20
  limitation, especially when it comes to areas of coverage.
• 1:23:23
  But in terms of just being kind of a mic, go sideline to
• 1:23:27
  sideline a little bit can make plays in space and can can get
• 1:23:32
  off of blocks and be able to make tackles that aren't getting
• 1:23:36
  getting somebody dragged 345 yards down the field.
• 1:23:40
  It's a guy that can do it now whether you can translate that
• 1:23:43
  up to the power 5 level that's that's that remains to be seen
• 1:23:48
  but just Based on his technique and what he can do from an
• 1:23:52
  athletic standpoint. I think he's a good player that
• 1:23:57
  you could potentially look at as a potential starter in games
• 1:24:01
  where you have a run-heavy matchup.
• 1:24:04
  I don't think he's a guy that would contribute a lot for any
• 1:24:07
  sort of true spread, or a heavy passing attack, but if you got a
• 1:24:12
  team that's going to ground and pound, he could, he could be an
• 1:24:15
  asset. Pittsburgh, what size is he,
• 1:24:20
  what's the size 63 240 pounds. So he got some beat, he's 63 240
• 1:24:26
  with a name, like Stone. He better be ready to punch.
• 1:24:33
  I seen one highlight and he had a bionic arm or something.
• 1:24:38
  I don't know what was going on, but he had a thing on his arm
• 1:24:41
  like Batista had. I would like, probably tough.
• 1:24:46
  White linebacker, middle of wood with a name Stone.
• 1:24:50
  He probably can hit all. I need to see his nose.
• 1:24:53
  Get bloody one time. Fan favorite.
• 1:24:56
  We got Dax back. Let's go to actually point of
• 1:25:00
  dag to point up. Now.
• 1:25:01
  There you go. Put him in that.
• 1:25:03
  Tell him to go get, go hit. Hey don't need a cover.
• 1:25:06
  If nothing else it shows up the depth in that room.
• 1:25:10
  Completely you. Now yet Tisdale you got lost in
• 1:25:13
  you got Keller, you get the outside guys who can Play you
• 1:25:16
  got a really good too. Deep are, he's an RV, a kid.
• 1:25:19
  He played down in Monacan which is I believe, I think Monica and
• 1:25:25
  is still got a form of hokey as a head coach down there.
• 1:25:28
  So again, it's things like this in recruiting world, right?
• 1:25:31
  Hey, hey, you know, we would have taken Stone here four years
• 1:25:35
  ago. If we had been here but you go
• 1:25:39
  back and it gets those in robes and things like that.
• 1:25:41
  So I mean I feel good. You have 100 tackles at any
• 1:25:45
  level of football, you obviously kind of know what you're doing
• 1:25:49
  just because but again it's yours up a room and now I don't
• 1:25:56
  think we're worried about linebackers.
• 1:25:58
  We got the depth there in. You know, somebody's got to go
• 1:26:02
  from that room. That's younger than they got to
• 1:26:04
  go. All right.
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  So Boys over the last six weeks, we have been seeing a lot of
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  social media presence for my coaches out there.
• 1:26:15
  Talking about the winter workouts, putting the tough
• 1:26:18
  athletes up. Putting the Hokie Warriors up.
• 1:26:22
  Y'all ankle sit here and name them all.
• 1:26:24
  Because if I did it would take a little while but you all seen it
• 1:26:28
  and if you're a hockey fan and you haven't seen it.
• 1:26:31
  Go look at all the coaches page. They're sharing these every
• 1:26:34
  week. They're retweeting each other.
• 1:26:35
  They're pushing these guys and pumping their guys up and we
• 1:26:39
  cooked we look at it today because I'm a nerd, not make the
• 1:26:43
  list and I made the big long list and we sat here this
• 1:26:47
  morning kind of talked about it and Is something I can't
• 1:26:52
  remember if it was Taylor, you Braun just, that's the way my
• 1:26:55
  brain works. We talked about cream rising to
• 1:26:59
  the top of this list, because just about every player on this
• 1:27:03
  list. Play, either a significant role
• 1:27:07
  last year on this team or was one of the prize transfer
• 1:27:12
  recruits. Yeah.
• 1:27:15
  When we look at it, you know, you got guys, like, you know,
• 1:27:17
  Gallows on here, three times. Hope you wore your Got you know
• 1:27:23
  Kelly lost and you got Mario Kendricks, you got my sword,
• 1:27:27
  delaying, you got Josh fuga. These are guys that have had a
• 1:27:33
  presence for this team last year, Jalen strowman on here two
• 1:27:37
  times. So I mean these are these are
• 1:27:39
  Big Time Players that played key roles for us last year.
• 1:27:44
  Good to see them competing in the offseason.
• 1:27:48
  And you know, we look at At the cream Rises to the top.
• 1:27:51
  Also let's talk a little bit about the couple guys that can
• 1:27:55
  transfer it in that are on this list.
• 1:27:57
  You got canteen on here, you got drones on here you got Jalen
• 1:28:03
  Lane on here. These this is this is good
• 1:28:08
  because it shows you that these guys are coming in and
• 1:28:10
  immediately competing and buying into the culture that coach
• 1:28:15
  pride and the rest of the staff is set for this team.
• 1:28:20
  Definitely, definitely. Now one of the names that I seen
• 1:28:24
  that I didn't see earlier actually was McRae CJ McRae.
• 1:28:29
  He's on there, right? Yeah.
• 1:28:32
  McRae was got a tough athlete award.
• 1:28:35
  Have you after Warrior award but got the tough athlete Award,
• 1:28:37
  right? But the McRae during the season.
• 1:28:41
  If you watch some of the earlier games, he jumped off of the
• 1:28:44
  screen man, like I don't know what happened later in the
• 1:28:47
  season. I don't know if he had Resort or
• 1:28:50
  what but watching him early in the season, it was like thank
• 1:28:54
  you is number 56. Only.
• 1:28:56
  Yeah, we need more of him, you know, like that, that looks
• 1:29:00
  good. So, I'll be interested to see
• 1:29:02
  kind of, you know what, what he's able to do.
• 1:29:06
  And all of these guys, you know, like you said, a lot of the
• 1:29:10
  contributors that we expect to be big players for us we've seen
• 1:29:17
  on there. Now, pivoting, just a little bit
• 1:29:22
  of course, because I'm a Virginia Tech fan.
• 1:29:26
  I always get a little nervous of the people.
• 1:29:29
  You don't see, you know what's going on with what this guy?
• 1:29:33
  Why haven't we seen anything from him when we talk about ali
• 1:29:38
  Jennings? You know, you talk about ali
• 1:29:40
  Jennings and, and US knowing he's going to be a leader in
• 1:29:45
  that wide receiver room, you know, constantly looking for
• 1:29:49
  him, you know, constantly looking for him to win
• 1:29:52
  something. Talk about Dorian strong.
• 1:29:57
  Yeah. What are we going to see from
• 1:29:59
  him? This year?
• 1:30:00
  You haven't seen them on a lot of different lists like that but
• 1:30:04
  I know it's some injuries and things like that that we're
• 1:30:06
  waiting overcome. So that's one of the stuff that
• 1:30:09
  I've been kind of paying attention to this off.
• 1:30:11
  Season. One thing I am, glad about is
• 1:30:14
  that last season it was so many unknowns.
• 1:30:19
  I didn't know if you go back and look at any of my Twitter page
• 1:30:23
  time. Online and stuff.
• 1:30:25
  When people talked about what we would do going to the season I
• 1:30:28
  was like yeah. Not too excited.
• 1:30:30
  I don't, it's going to be tough to get to a ball game and people
• 1:30:33
  would like you're crazy. Look at this schedule.
• 1:30:35
  I'm like we are the schedule. It was looking at us.
• 1:30:39
  I don't want to look at who we play what on killed him.
• 1:30:43
  So a lot of these players I know him.
• 1:30:47
  You know we don't have will Gustav Abyss playing wide
• 1:30:52
  receiver this year. Thank the Lord stuff like that.
• 1:30:58
  Yeah, and to your point Talia, there are there are some names
• 1:31:01
  that have been missing and we don't know if it's injury or
• 1:31:04
  just they're not there and that, that that does creep to worry in
• 1:31:09
  the back of your mind. Because for me, you mention Ali
• 1:31:12
  and Dorian me. Not seen Alan Tisdale worries me
• 1:31:16
  because he is the he is the oldest guy in that linebacker
• 1:31:20
  room. He's played the money.
• 1:31:22
  Yeah, he's played the most Bar, None.
• 1:31:25
  I mean, go back to 2019 when he Down to Miami game when he's
• 1:31:29
  puking all over the field playing his guts out and last
• 1:31:33
  year came back look great. You know after the suspension in
• 1:31:37
  that worries me but then I look at this list to and are y'all
• 1:31:41
  worried about not seeing some of the younger guys like because
• 1:31:47
  there's not a lot of them there's you know talk about the
• 1:31:50
  class of 22. It's other than Bryce.
• 1:31:53
  Do you guys think nice into big ones?
• 1:31:56
  That I like I see two big ones. So many.
• 1:31:59
  I know he's seen some on there. Go ahead, Brian office of
• 1:32:08
  course. Well, who are you worried about?
• 1:32:11
  Not seeing on there then. And I'm saying this guy's
• 1:32:16
  Praises a lot, but I want to see Daquan right on this list by the
• 1:32:20
  end of winter workouts because I know we got Nick Gallo is a
• 1:32:24
  big-time workout Warrior but we're going to need to rely on
• 1:32:28
  Daquan right to be more than just a joker tight end that we
• 1:32:33
  can line up wide. We really need him to be able to
• 1:32:36
  get in the wing and get in line and do things like that because
• 1:32:39
  that's going to open up some things for us talent that we can
• 1:32:42
  do offensive ly. Say what you were saying earlier
• 1:32:45
  today about Daquan because you really you made a really good
• 1:32:48
  point about him. Me Daquan, is your he is your
• 1:32:52
  next Virginia Tech tidying to go to the league.
• 1:32:58
  He he needs to be salivating to watch film like Travis Kelce
• 1:33:05
  hitting all of these tight ends. Now that are in the league, that
• 1:33:10
  do what he does. If he goes hard like Brian is
• 1:33:14
  saying in this weight room this offseason because he's already
• 1:33:18
  burst onto the scene, he goes hard this offseason in takes
• 1:33:22
  that next step and you don't have to take him off the field.
• 1:33:27
  He's going to call some people, some problems because you got to
• 1:33:30
  be able to block you got to be able to line up, right?
• 1:33:33
  You got to be able to be flexed out.
• 1:33:35
  You got to be able to know how to pick up blitzes.
• 1:33:39
  It's a lot of different things that you have.
• 1:33:41
  Do and that tight end position. You pretty much a learning to
• 1:33:45
  positions, you learning wide receiver and you're learning
• 1:33:49
  offensive lineman, you know you got to be able to do both of
• 1:33:52
  them. So That is, that is a, that's a
• 1:33:55
  big one that Brian brought up that I don't want to use the
• 1:33:59
  word worried, even us talking about this, I don't want to use
• 1:34:02
  the word that it worries us, but it is something that you like,
• 1:34:06
  I'd like to see something different out of that because,
• 1:34:11
  right? Right is going to be a big part
• 1:34:12
  of our offense. He's gonna be a huge part of our
• 1:34:15
  offense and even watching, I'll just go back to the.
• 1:34:18
  I think it was the Malcolm Thomas as well, and I know, No,
• 1:34:23
  he's been battling injuries but I was just about to say to go
• 1:34:26
  back and think about the North Carolina State game.
• 1:34:31
  We that game look totally different when Thomas got hurt
• 1:34:35
  it like it took the air out of the whole team when he went down
• 1:34:40
  but the first half we couldn't do shit and then we come out
• 1:34:45
  that second half and right takes over, you know, I think he took
• 1:34:49
  two passes down the field. It may have had about 60 yards,
• 1:34:53
  receiving in two passes or three passes.
• 1:34:56
  So him being a part of the offense dramatically.
• 1:35:01
  Changes it, when he's when he's there and as a threat.
• 1:35:06
  So I'm going to be excited to see where we go with with him.
• 1:35:12
  He's shown, he can get open. He's shown, he can make plays
• 1:35:14
  after the catch. You know, had that one big
• 1:35:17
  fumble that you kind of, you know, it is what it is.
• 1:35:21
  He works on ball security. If he works on blocking, he can
• 1:35:24
  buy me. The sky is really the limit for
• 1:35:25
  him and because he kept a sleet in the both of y'all's points.
• 1:35:30
  If you can do everything, And if he can go in line Wing h-back,
• 1:35:34
  slot X, if you don't take them off, if you, if you leave him on
• 1:35:39
  the field every single play, you basically you're dictating the
• 1:35:43
  terms of that defense. Who you going to put on him.
• 1:35:46
  Oh, you gonna put the 5-11 little corner back and he can
• 1:35:49
  come on, try to press him. He'll Ragdoll him to the ground
• 1:35:53
  and we don't get it out. Oh, you're going to take that
• 1:35:55
  line. Backers will be two steps off of
• 1:35:57
  him. Go for, we will run a little
• 1:35:58
  scene now now think about this. Think about how we use Dalton
• 1:36:03
  King when we had him. Oh yeah and Don King is and I
• 1:36:08
  love what dr. King was he's not half the
• 1:36:11
  athlete of Daquan right at all. So Don King went to the league,
• 1:36:17
  no matter how much he played. He got drafted and went to the
• 1:36:20
  league. He is a I think Robbie said it
• 1:36:24
  perfect matchup Nightmare and when he catches the ball he
• 1:36:28
  ain't falling down like Bucky This is true and I love, I love,
• 1:36:36
  he was a matchup nightmare, but he wasn't getting no yards after
• 1:36:39
  the catch. Right is so, man, I got one runs
• 1:36:44
  again, we talked about when we were talking about Jalen Jones,
• 1:36:47
  right? Kind of has the same same
• 1:36:48
  mentality when he gets the ball. He's not just going down at
• 1:36:52
  first time. No proof freshman to refresh.
• 1:36:55
  Finish. Tried to get away and get extra
• 1:36:58
  yards every time a new Also goes back to way to coaches are
• 1:37:02
  teaching. Hey, you mumbled a ball inside,
• 1:37:06
  it's football. We gonna get better.
• 1:37:08
  It's football people, fumble. And that's one thing.
• 1:37:11
  I think I said it, who was it? Brian, that fumbled and they put
• 1:37:14
  them right? Like he shocking last.
• 1:37:16
  You even though he's looking to leave us couple times Keyshawn
• 1:37:19
  fumbled, and he was out there, couple series later, date
• 1:37:21
  invention because it's football. People are going to Fumble,
• 1:37:25
  people make plays on the other side of the ball.
• 1:37:27
  Yeah so that wraps that up, keep an eye on that if you're I doubt
• 1:37:31
  there because it's good to see. I love it to me.
• 1:37:36
  It's just, it's just lovely to see.
• 1:37:39
  They're giving these guys to credit for busting their asses
• 1:37:42
  in the winter, and they're getting recognition every week
• 1:37:45
  on Fridays. They, it's that Roundup.
• 1:37:47
  You expecting it. And I love seeing that because
• 1:37:49
  those guys deserve it. All right, we got a few more
• 1:37:52
  news and notes. Before we wrap up tonight.
• 1:37:55
  Did y'all know the usfl had their draft today?
• 1:37:59
  I saw you told me this man regardless what you say they got
• 1:38:16
  drafted in have a chance and opportunity to play in the next
• 1:38:22
  level. Yep.
• 1:38:24
  So good on them. I'm sure they're there.
• 1:38:27
  They're hoping it's like Months from now somebody calls that
• 1:38:30
  name but they got a lot of stuff to go through before then and
• 1:38:33
  it's it's right. Funny.
• 1:38:34
  It's like you're secure right now guys.
• 1:38:36
  You got something. Yeah, they got their have
• 1:38:39
  opportunity to keep playing and show what they're worth.
• 1:38:42
  And, you know, it's definitely a platform that for guys like
• 1:38:48
  Silas and Jayla that may not be, you know, standout players in
• 1:38:52
  terms of getting combine invites and things like that, it gives
• 1:38:56
  them a platform to kind of show what they can do.
• 1:38:59
  Outside of their college system in a more pro-style system with
• 1:39:02
  Pro coaches. You know, a lot of the guys in
• 1:39:05
  these leagues that are coaching now, our former NFL coaches and
• 1:39:08
  things like that, so that, you know, they'll be able to see
• 1:39:10
  that the network kind of gets created there.
• 1:39:13
  So it's definitely an Avenue for them.
• 1:39:15
  Hope they make the most of it. Definitely, everybody story
• 1:39:19
  different, man. We don't know what somebody's
• 1:39:20
  Story begins and ends, you know, somebody.
• 1:39:25
  They can get it one of these developmental leagues or XFL.
• 1:39:28
  Canadian Football League, it could make their career, their
• 1:39:32
  it's about money as well. So if you can play the game you
• 1:39:36
  love and you can make money for your family, have it?
• 1:39:39
  Yes sir. What's a hokie always?
• 1:39:41
  Okay, we're going to root you on.
• 1:39:43
  You come right by that. If you went if you win a
• 1:39:46
  championship week claiming that fucking Championship.
• 1:39:49
  Yes, sir. Well, speaking of making money
• 1:39:55
  this is strictly here in Virginia tally out, Liz Not an
• 1:39:59
  Alabama and Alabama has a state that does not do it to our
• 1:40:01
  knowledge. The vhsl, the Virginia High
• 1:40:04
  School league is proposing, the opportunity for high school
• 1:40:07
  athletes to have name, image, and likeness.
• 1:40:11
  What y'all thought I made the joke earlier.
• 1:40:14
  So I'll leave this, just because I know what High School coaches
• 1:40:18
  make you, I was making a joke earlier, it's going to be star
• 1:40:21
  players on high school teams in this ghostly difficult that are
• 1:40:24
  making more than the coaches are.
• 1:40:27
  Because I mean, coaches stipends in Virginia, are like four or
• 1:40:31
  five thousand dollars, it's for assistant coaches.
• 1:40:35
  So, it's pretty, pretty, pretty low ball.
• 1:40:39
  And most most of them are teachers to say, yes, Teacher
• 1:40:41
  salary plus that stipend, you know what we're looking at
• 1:40:44
  there. So that's going to be kind of
• 1:40:48
  wild. I have no problem with the y'all
• 1:40:50
  know. I'm very much a ni L forward
• 1:40:53
  person if people can use their image name and likeness to make
• 1:40:58
  money. I'm all for it.
• 1:41:00
  So, you know, let it ride, it'll be interesting to see what type
• 1:41:06
  of guard rails. They put up in place for it, you
• 1:41:08
  know, you know. Yeah.
• 1:41:09
  When you have stuff like that, you know.
• 1:41:11
  No, it's not. Like you said, it's going to be
• 1:41:12
  guardrails. They're going to have to do
• 1:41:15
  something to make sure that it's in compliance with what they're
• 1:41:21
  looking for, but like it's what the things is in our Hill is
• 1:41:26
  named image likeness. My name is Jonathan tally, if I
• 1:41:31
  want to sign, if somebody wants to pay me to sign an autograph,
• 1:41:35
  if I'm a 12th grader. For my name, that's their money.
• 1:41:40
  I should be able to get paid for it, you know, is it, it's going
• 1:41:44
  to have some stuff up, this going to have to like you said,
• 1:41:46
  gonna we're gonna have to figure some things out but I like it.
• 1:41:50
  I don't think it's a bad thing and he'll I'm from Alabama.
• 1:41:53
  People been doing that anyway. Oh you're right.
• 1:41:56
  They've been they've been doing this for years.
• 1:41:58
  Well, it's closed doors. Anyway, so we might as well go
• 1:42:02
  ahead and say, well, we don't want to get you in trouble.
• 1:42:05
  We don't want to stop you from doing playing a sport that Love
• 1:42:09
  because you took some money about some Jordans.
• 1:42:12
  They is Robbie told about his stipend down in Greenville.
• 1:42:17
  I mean, I like it when you give the kids, the opportunity, like
• 1:42:21
  you said, Talley it's going on. A lot of places, a lot of
• 1:42:23
  places. Anyway, you might as well make
• 1:42:25
  it all out in the open, you know, because if it least, it's
• 1:42:32
  that way, you know, who's you know what boosters are, what
• 1:42:35
  high school are stroking, the checks.
• 1:42:37
  And that can level some stuff out in some ways, but we'll see
• 1:42:43
  how it goes. Because I'm sure it's got to go
• 1:42:45
  through legislation and all that stuff here in the state, which
• 1:42:48
  it's going to be real interesting to follow over the
• 1:42:50
  next couple years. Yeah, it's gonna be interesting
• 1:42:52
  to see how they handle. I mean, because, I mean,
• 1:42:55
  obviously Virginia, I'll be recruiting is pretty much
• 1:42:59
  illegal from a from a letter of the law standpoint, but it
• 1:43:05
  happens all the time. Like it ain't, you know.
• 1:43:07
  There's fudging, addresses. I mean, there's there's a lot of
• 1:43:10
  kids that live in the city that, you know, play in schools in the
• 1:43:15
  here, in Richmond area. There's a lot of kids that are
• 1:43:20
  Zone places that end up playing for powers in the 757 that we
• 1:43:26
  know and love. So, I mean, there's a lot of
• 1:43:29
  ways around it. Yes, but but again, that's
• 1:43:32
  always been in place and obviously if you've got in il in
• 1:43:36
  place, that's just going to kind of Sweeten.
• 1:43:37
  In that pot a little bit more 100%.
• 1:43:40
  It, there's always a family member that lives in the
• 1:43:44
  district that you want to play as I guaran-damn-tee.
• 1:43:48
  All right, two more things. Shout out to treadmill horse,
• 1:43:52
  for putting this out there a couple weeks ago.
• 1:43:54
  Apparently, we're going to have better cell service and lean
• 1:43:57
  Stadium, this year. Apparently, they put some
• 1:43:59
  antennas up. And I mean, I've won when I go
• 1:44:01
  to the game, and it's been, it'll be three years now.
• 1:44:05
  Since I last step foot in Lane, I checked my Phone during, you
• 1:44:10
  know, the quarters. If I walk to the pisser or
• 1:44:12
  half-time in the end of the game, I'm not out there.
• 1:44:16
  Planted. I know people like well, film
• 1:44:17
  Sam is so cool. I've been old school kid.
• 1:44:21
  I used to sit in West stands in the student section and when you
• 1:44:26
  sit in that section it is an experience when you feel your
• 1:44:30
  body move. So, when I hear the kids out
• 1:44:31
  here like this, like what do you like, what you freaking phone
• 1:44:34
  down and enjoy it. Curtis, you got to get into the
• 1:44:39
  new century man. I'm sorry you got it, you gotta
• 1:44:42
  listen, I gotta send your question, your kids age 10?
• 1:44:46
  Okay, you're still young. I got a 13 and 17 year old.
• 1:44:51
  It's all about Tick-Tock and Instagram, and all of that
• 1:44:54
  stuff. So people want to see the real
• 1:44:57
  world, the real stuff like they want to see the Raw and Uncut
• 1:45:02
  footage of Sandman and people running out and Brian getting
• 1:45:06
  drunk. And Falling over beside them.
• 1:45:08
  Like they need that Self Service, they need to have it
• 1:45:12
  better. They want those live updates
• 1:45:14
  during the game. I get you, I understand.
• 1:45:18
  We are not caring too much about that, but those kids, well,
• 1:45:24
  we're trying to pack that Stadium.
• 1:45:27
  We want them to stay in. Now, we need them to be able to
• 1:45:30
  check Tick, Tock to see what card he be doing.
• 1:45:33
  Okay, I hear you, I'll say this. So, Even if you think you from
• 1:45:38
  an old school perspective, there's times when you can't
• 1:45:41
  even send a damn text message last.
• 1:45:43
  That was a pain in the ass. So like, if I get separated from
• 1:45:47
  the guy came to the game with like I can't even send the damn
• 1:45:49
  text message, where the hell, yeah, three hours later you find
• 1:45:53
  somebody down at tots on the fifth real?
• 1:45:55
  Yes, I carry you home. Now, he's going to collect all
• 1:46:01
  of that Sandman footage. You can the next time we've been
• 1:46:03
  laying, I'm getting all of it. I'll tell you what, though.
• 1:46:08
  I got talk a lot of trash about Sandman, but even being like
• 1:46:13
  when you're there, it's just, it's a surreal is feeling, you
• 1:46:18
  know what I'm saying? To go through it and even like,
• 1:46:21
  I've been there when we play Clemson, whatever year, when 17,
• 1:46:26
  17 17 at place where nuts? Yeah, that was.
• 1:46:38
  Kinda I was I was there a little late but I did get the I would
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  never write when it started, but I got there.
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  And it was nuts, man is and I was kind of finding my way and
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  feeling my way around town that was my wife's first game action,
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  I love it because my first game was 16 and she went with me and
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  17. Yeah I'll say I say this.
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  I got to go 05 Georgia Tech game day with said my fraternity
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  Brother David and my fraternity brother.
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  Brian. And I will tell anyone, if you
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  if if you are a tech fan in game day, comes this year and you can
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  go go go. It is a great experience.
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  It is a, even if you can't get, it is football.
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  It is, it is something different.
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  And I mean, we got there about you because that's when it was
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  like a two-hour show. We got there the last 40 minutes
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  and I mean, it was like this, you know, and when I was with
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  me, I got that right. The last 30, 30 minutes.
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  Yep, and it, and it just your feel it brundun.
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  Yeah. I haven't made a game time.
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  There we go. There we go.
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  That's the, it's on the list. There we go.
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  So the thing is, man, like me being here.
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  I've been to a couple of games and, you know, different sets of
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  tailgates and things like that. When we came up and 16, we
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  didn't know anybody me and my buddy.
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  Like personally like I know you guys know we just we knew a
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  couple of people off of Facebook like names, okay, he looks like
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  this, he looks like this. And yeah man we got a warm
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  welcome like just walking by tailgates and and having
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  conversations with people. Oh yeah.
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  You talk different where you from?
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  I'm from Alabama, what are you doing here?
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  You know what I'm saying? And then just it trickled into
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  you got a tailgate place here, you got to place under like Like
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  yeah, I met some people, this longtime friends like my friend,
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  Mike is like my brother. Now we talked on the phone
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  probably once a day and that's why I've been to most of my
• 1:48:47
  games with now it's just a different feeling when you get
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  to Blacksburg man hid in a lot of different places I've been
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  and even when you talk about Alabama, going to Tuscaloosa
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  going to to Auburn course I want the Jacksonville State played,
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  you know, seeing some games there and just a Alabama A&M.
• 1:49:06
  Live here in Huntsville, they're here.
• 1:49:08
  I've been to a couple of different games, but tailgate
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  wise and just the community is just a different feeling.
• 1:49:16
  And I know that sounds cliche to people who are not, you know,
• 1:49:19
  haven't been there and having experienced it, but it is, is it
• 1:49:22
  something different? I'm just, I'm looking forward to
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  the day when those when those games are as meaningful.
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  Yeah. As 16, they 2016 and we played
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  Miami on that Thursday night. It was just it was electric man,
• 1:49:39
  you know what I'm saying? And it was even before we
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  stepped on the field, you know, it was just excitement, you
• 1:49:46
  know, like Virginia Tech football was back and so I look
• 1:49:51
  forward to getting back to those getting back to those games and
• 1:49:54
  getting back to those days and damn it.
• 1:49:57
  This is the year, let's do it. All right, you already couple
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  the best environment with actually playing for something
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  that matters right playing the meaningful game.
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  And I think that's what's been missing.
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  I think, you know, even when we were looking at kind of the
• 1:50:13
  upcoming schedule, we were looking at it last year, looking
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  at this year. I mean, it's not, it's not a lot
• 1:50:17
  of what I'd call meaningful home games this year, in terms of.
• 1:50:22
  But if you never gave that a probably big that are going to
• 1:50:26
  potentially matter, whether it's in the ACC race or something
• 1:50:28
  like that. Yeah.
• 1:50:30
  But the thing is, if you sit here in we're you know we're
• 1:50:34
  shooting the breeze. Now we got one more thing to
• 1:50:35
  talk about. We're going to wrap.
• 1:50:36
  It up because we almost been going to ours.
• 1:50:38
  Welcome. Maybe to the new normal.
• 1:50:41
  But if you tell me, it's late, October like the Syracuse game
• 1:50:46
  in text 6, + 1, 7 and 0. It's a big game that don't
• 1:50:49
  matter like we're good. This game matters to us about
• 1:50:53
  where we're trying to go. Wouldn't get it when it gained
• 1:50:56
  will game winning games changed. Everything you go.
• 1:50:59
  You start winning games regardless.
• 1:51:02
  What the team is, the atmosphere changes and it tag it goes from.
• 1:51:07
  It's always an unbelievable atmosphere to make you think
• 1:51:10
  about 16 when you were there and then 17 and Clemson when we were
• 1:51:13
  unbeaten, playing them is through the roof.
• 1:51:16
  And when we were going in the early 2000s and you know, KJ was
• 1:51:20
  there in Bryan, Randall in Hall, it was Unreal and we're sitting
• 1:51:27
  here. We all are in our later 30s and
• 1:51:30
  we're trying to tell this generation.
• 1:51:31
  It's like don't leave it half time State like watch the game
• 1:51:36
  be there. R.
• 1:51:37
  Because when this place gets loud and nasty, teens don't like
• 1:51:40
  playing here, they don't like driving up 81 from Roanoke.
• 1:51:44
  And the smoke comes rolling off the mountains.
• 1:51:47
  And you see that big brick walls, you get on 460 and, you
• 1:51:50
  know, man, it's about to get loud and nasty for a few hours
• 1:51:54
  on that field. And that's what, you know,
• 1:51:57
  that's what we've seen. That's what we want.
• 1:52:00
  Speaking of speaking of that, since we're talking about it and
• 1:52:03
  like you said, I know, we gotta wrap this up what game?
• 1:52:07
  Is that you guys? What games are you guys looking
• 1:52:09
  at this year that you're trying to trying to make?
• 1:52:12
  You haven't even thought about it?
• 1:52:13
  Yeah, you thought about it. I'm definitely going to
• 1:52:16
  Louisville. I'm wrapping that up.
• 1:52:18
  I'm pull, you going up my camera?
• 1:52:20
  That's a road game. Yeah.
• 1:52:22
  Okay. I'm going to Louisville this
• 1:52:24
  year. I got a couple of friends.
• 1:52:26
  It's already got their rooms, and I'm probably going to get
• 1:52:29
  mine Friday, but I don't know which home game.
• 1:52:33
  I'm coming too or, how many home games I'm coming too?
• 1:52:36
  Right now it looks like Purdue is probably the home game.
• 1:52:41
  Did I'm coming too? All right, just because I
• 1:52:43
  refused to come and watch us play ODU.
• 1:52:49
  I can't handle it either way. Win or loss, I don't want to see
• 1:52:55
  it but produce the team that, you know, we ain't played maybe
• 1:53:00
  a little different. I seen this played Notre Dame.
• 1:53:02
  I seen us play clip. At home.
• 1:53:07
  I seen this play Miami, so I'm just looking for a good game and
• 1:53:11
  that's a early game. We go into that.
• 1:53:14
  Not if we're going to beat ODU this year, we're going to go
• 1:53:17
  beat them this year and then we're going to be 1 and 0.
• 1:53:19
  Yep. And then we're going to go in
• 1:53:20
  and we're going to play Purdue and I'm looking for us to smack
• 1:53:23
  them and I want to be there. I'm all right.
• 1:53:26
  That's what you did. I'm saying I'm going to and I'm
• 1:53:29
  going to the spring and we are going to spring game.
• 1:53:31
  I'll be there he's gonna be there I can't confirm or deny
• 1:53:34
  yet. I got kids doing a lot of stuff
• 1:53:36
  I I ain't going to guarantee it. I mean, you've been there and,
• 1:53:40
  you know, me and being telephone link-up.
• 1:53:42
  Regardless Wally cannot Sublime. You grab them by the balls and
• 1:53:48
  throw him in the back. And that man is going to be an
• 1:54:03
  assistant defensive back coach for the Panthers.
• 1:54:06
  He got the itch right? Yep he got that itch got the
• 1:54:10
  itch. I mean by some media for a
• 1:54:14
  while. So I mean it's interesting that
• 1:54:17
  these jumping in The Fray but I'm happy for him.
• 1:54:19
  That's yes, that's something that I think he's always kind of
• 1:54:23
  looked at, but just kind of and figured out I went to make the
• 1:54:26
  jump. What's the right move?
• 1:54:27
  When's the right time and if he finally took that step so good
• 1:54:31
  for him. This coaching job sweat, so he
• 1:54:33
  can come back to Tech and help us out.
• 1:54:36
  That's what he's doing. He talked to me and told me that
• 1:54:39
  I, there we go, flying. Barry.
• 1:54:42
  Go tallies got some sources here.
• 1:54:45
  That's what he's trying to do is trying to come back without
• 1:54:47
  tell. He's a real inside of y'all
• 1:54:48
  didn't know that. Yeah he is gonna go.
• 1:54:51
  He is the true Insider. Why y'all think we brought him
• 1:54:53
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• 1:55:00
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• 1:56:17
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• 1:56:19
  today. I went out and played Putt-Putt
• 1:56:21
  driving range with the kids, right?
• 1:56:24
  Yeah. And it's only 40 on Saturdays.
• 1:56:26
  I know it'll be cold and yeah, Virginia weather.
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  This time of year Alabama will the same way, crazy.
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