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Fantasy Football QB Strategy: The New Elite Tier · Fantasy NFL Today

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're potting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're in fact QBs today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They send through our QB rankings.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk for you know, because it's because it's one QB in super flex and there are differences, also dynasty, but we'll keep it kind of one QB super flex kind of bounce back and forth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you're in the lead tier, so this is kick us off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anything, you know, you've been noticing right away, and it in change, new status clothes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's been a little sense there's also been some guys who have made some very big jumps from last year this year I was you know trying to go back on my my 25 rankings and trying to put them in to my 2026 There's some guys who you know made some big jumps if you guys who've taken a few steps back You know a little bit of the status quo for sure You know trying to evaluate some of the status quo and being like okay, it's still right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it not right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do I give
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[SPEAKER_00]: just play a rap has, you know, one who, how do I do it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, trying to put the pieces to the puzzle together right now is, uh, a bit of a challenge.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because historically, last couple of years, we've been at that top here, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Josh Allen, Lamar, Berts, and then kind of my homes in and out, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Boro, too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, true, and so now it's kind of I feel like it's the tier of one and then it's a bunch of other people kind of fighting for second All right, because like Drake may was a QB2 fan to point for game Thanks to effort was TB2.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think like two or three guys tied in at my home, too, but then he had a day see out Do you agree?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's Josh out in everyone else.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah 100% I mean just the way Josh Allen still uses legs He carries the ball snowmatch and he counted for 39 touchdowns last year 14 of those on the ground
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, that's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, we're going to bounce around here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But what are you looking for when you're wrapped in QB?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like dual thread is kind of the rage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you looking more receivers?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The coaching, the offense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it past first?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Division schedule.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's so many variables.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There are a lot of variables, so you've got to look at just the player in general for a sniping duel threat is a big deal because you know, you have guys like jailan herds who's a duel threat, but you know, he any runs, he doesn't run for a ton of yards, but he swore so many one yard touchdowns and things little things like back then when you week, Josh Allen obviously carries them all a ton, you know, despite not having the greatest
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[SPEAKER_00]: It just, you know, he makes up so much of it with, you know, his accuracy and then also his legs and what he does with it despite the fact that he puts himself in a hard way completely going too much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But he always plays right down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like the only dual correct you be who played.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, these are injuries here, but after the fact and just film, he's and fancy play off the monster too, right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so let's go here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's gotten like a couple like favorable matchups in there where he'll go for like 35 boss points in that matchup and sing a handily winging to the lead.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so well, so what's your strategy?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I'm for one QB, what's start there?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I always almost wait and I'll get two guys late.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like to get like a running QB and a pass or like I love getting golf in one QB leads and like the ninth round and then tearing him with a more volatile runner.
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[SPEAKER_00]: General Shaggy is I do like to wait, but I also like to see how the board kind of plays out like a couple years ago in my biggest money Lee Josh Hall was sitting there for me late in the second round.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't best.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it was just it was just too worth it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, we singlehandedly, you know, carrying me for a while.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I really don't hate that normally I do like to wait though because there is a lot of value for waiting, you know, if you look at Justin Kerber last year for instance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: he was somebody that was going 10th round or later and pretty much every single draft.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, first early part of the season, it looked like he was gonna be the fancy MVP, tapered off a little bit, then middle of the season, he had like three straight 30 point weeks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he kind of leveled out again, but for the most part all year, he was good for 15 or 16th, fantasy points, it's a corner bag, everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He led the position, rushing here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the craziest that ever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, people sleep on him and he did it in the offense where, you know, it's like all are sucked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so that's a Herbert.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, okay, we'll start on him because Mike McDaniel of the Chargers, over Greg Roman is one of the biggest upgrades there is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The O'Line should be healthy, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're Sean Slater and Joe All.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, like, do you have Herbert as, you know, close to maybe not must draft, but the top of that maybe second, third tier,
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[SPEAKER_01]: where he could that could be a top five offense and he could be back to old Herbert where he's putting 35 plus touchdowns on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to totally divulge it, but I am as high as I have ever been on Justin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I absolutely love him this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Big big fan is for this season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the receiving core isn't like the greatest in the world, but the play calling should help tremendously.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just, it comes out of that code still, because even though McDonald's going in place can Harbaugh just be like, trust McDaniel to let him unlock Herbert and run him just sling the damn ball down field.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm more, I like the offense, invest in the offense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So for me, it's like, what are your top five offenses for the season?
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[SPEAKER_01]: For me, it's in no real order.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna have chargers,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bengals bears lions and then maybe cowboys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I might be forgetting somebody, but I'm going to sit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go with three those in there for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So bangles cowboys and lions for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Those three absolutely are in there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Rams have to be in there anytime, you know, you have Sean McBay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The other interesting wrinkle, the rams used a lot last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was kind of something I was reading up on when I was putting together my piece is they used a lot of 13 personnel last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So one receiver three tie-dams because they were dealing with on and off receiver engines who could debaute a.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they have so many cable pass catchers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't even start us on the running game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the random talk for me because I didn't think we're the best offense in the league.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They have maybe the best online in the league.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One of the best play caught up with us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe one of the best QBs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe one of the best white receivers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But they got two elite running backs I find.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And last year they were pass heavy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think, especially with Miles Gehr, if they're going to have a league defense again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think they're going to be up and running a lot more in the second half of the season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they're going to want to put that much pressure on Stafford.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he had what six year six one year touchdowns last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's definitely going to be a regression, but it's not going to be like significant.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, so not maybe not for the offense as a whole, but for the QB is like, I'm not taking that safford in any format this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm a little buyer beware on him too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't draft him pie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: kind of the same price point is last year where I would take him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, and he was, I fear to steal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He'd pretty me probably the only one who he leaks last year, although I think week 16, he was bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He won't take out hurt, but anyway.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was in the hamstring game and I'm trying to think fifth offense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I would take, you know, again, I'll go Buffalo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the other day, now I'm still lead best quarterback in Fancy football.
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[SPEAKER_00]: James Cook had a roster season last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They add DJ more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You get another year, it can keep if Kian Holman can grow up and Shakira can slide in as a three in that all clicks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to be very dangerous.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm not going to get very great online to be okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll go to some of the runners.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's start.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a pure pastor because there's I feel like they've not lost value but lost a little luster right to like that staff press got Joe and Joe bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're kind of the two elite guys who the girl in Sapphire, I guess.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But DAX, I didn't career high, 36.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Girl, I think I had 41 touchdowns two years ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I see them as both having potential career years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I did, too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am very high on DAX as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because every QB has that one year where everything aligns up, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Stafford has last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's career high in touchdowns before.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know it's probably high 30s.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe I don't have with Megatron or Cooper before.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, not at least 21.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think when he, uh, when he first got to L.A. and like him and caught just had it go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I cup had like 22 touchdowns that year alone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Did he really?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he, yeah, he won the, the year he won the receiving triple crime.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I, I don't want to, you know, to my own or anything, but I had those two was a stack that year and it was, man, it was, yeah, yeah, yeah, career, yeah, you're a set of career I 41.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, but it's happened at 41.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, 41 is 21.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was, he was in
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, DAC and BROW right don't meet the mold of, you know, the dual threat, even though DAC should be able to, also both injury-prone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, do you have a preference between the two, both elite, wide receivers, both TAS-HETD, both bad defenses, the really kind of, you know, headed ahead for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would actually say the Cowboys-D event, I'm actually going to venture to say the Cowboys-D events will significantly improve this year, but for right now I'm taking DAC because DAC
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[SPEAKER_00]: and I still don't trust what the manals did with their offensive line.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the Cowboys made some market improvements on defense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to rotate Williams.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't tirelessly trust their running game at much, and I still think there's going to be a lot on deck shoulders.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I can see him throwing for $5,000 this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not called or burrow at the moment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Stack over bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, and then I mean QB is important, but in one QB leads, it's so easy to get a good QB.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes I'm not in like, I don't really care who I get.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm more tasting a stack.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Whereas like if I take, like if I take, if I got chase and that third overall, I'm taking bro around early, just because like, I get the best stack in the history of fancy football.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That might just carry me alone, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Same thing if I got lamb, I'm tasting duck.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know it's obvious, but that's a usually how let my QB decision
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's uh, it's something I am, I am to do too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, I don't, I don't like going in, like if I taken, you know, whichever receiver I'm taking first, I'm looking for that quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes it always doesn't, doesn't always shake out that way, though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes somebody else is going to nap them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You may end up with another receiver and another quarterback to end up being good to, uh, but that's more something I usually chase as well, try to maximize points.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just said it's nothing that's more than a great sack.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, let's go with a little more of the dual-press guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How obviously I guess Lamar's one, do you have kind of a preference or, you know, sneaky runner like people like Justin Fields last year, but he sucks, I have my guy, if you follow me at all, you'll all the eye, I can talk about him, but like Kyler emerging, are you buying the Drake, Drake, May, you know, rebuzz?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, when I'm still very high on and I think people are laughing with this is my homes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's still patterned homes like he actually up until the injury last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So career high and rushing yards.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, but yeah, trying to be the injury, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I, you know, he's one of those guys, like, yeah, the injury.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of like, I know what was significant, but for him, it's like whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not, you know, he's smart enough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's always been a very smart runner.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he never has really put himself in harm's way as a runner, he's always sliding.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He barely ever takes hits when he's designated himself as a runner.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's something that never really worries me with him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, my homes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah, my homes, you know, see pat my homes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, what about so Drake may, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he was a QB2.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was touting him all last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He could be top 10, top 5.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He blew that out of the water.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then they go get Romo
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a little skeptical just because he was he led the league in completion percentage and beat throw like accuracy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just think he had that like day to day nails with his working year from heaven and now he's chasing that and it's just you can't get there again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's exactly where I'm at as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think with me, obviously, I had a great season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Never was high on them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think with me, my concern is it's time to pay the pipe or schedule wise.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They had, you know, they had cakewalk schedule last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's all I've been beat to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's when we were talking about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The year that Bill was coming do when you win the division and you win the AFC.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, it doesn't get any easier.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They open the season in Seattle against the sea hawks in a super-worldly match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that defense was obviously very dominant
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and the way I've been seeing me go and drafts, we'll concern there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've seen him go as high, like just in Mr. Brown on SuperLoss, highest 34th round.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's, that's, I'm old, I'd be a little weary on that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I won't be doing that, but he also could just make us lots of stupid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He made that second year lead.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought the lead, we'll either see for one, and just has a monster again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Those were 4, 4, 4, 135 TD.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He easily did that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He could.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He could, but you know, if somebody else wants to take the fourth round
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[SPEAKER_00]: about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, and I find it so hard to rank the cubies because there's so many and there's so many that I have like such great potential.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like so Bo Nitz and Denver, he's been the cuby seven back to back years, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: He got jail in water, great align.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're actually pretty past head.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He had things like a 42-58.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yet he's going as a cuby 14, and I don't think anyone's going after him, but he's getting better and he's two years top 10.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is my concern with bone eggs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: As talent as he is, the running back room.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You have to remember, they have four cable running backs on that team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they just, and including the guy they just drafted in the second round.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Dobbins, you have Harvey, Coleman, and everybody forgets about Chalille McLaughlin, too, who's more than capable for back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that guy could easily be a number two or a number three back on any other team in the lead.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's just, it's so many mouths to feed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's where my question lies.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The other thing is that Broncos defense is also very dominant.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They could be very run heavy, control the ball team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nixon's also coming off an injury.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Nixon's like, you know, I'm a little more concerned about him as a runner than I am about Patrick O'Beeck.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so let's say, where, how low are you willing to go?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Say, one could be league.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, if Bryce, yeah, he's your T.B.
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[SPEAKER_01]: one, you, you waited too long, you screwed up, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, why don't we?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tyler Murray.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're okay with how you think we're doovination a lot like that Sam Darnell.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This has to be it for Kyler.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If he can't figure out Kevin O'Connell, I, you know, maybe some of you might be baseball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'll put that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So my guy's milk willus.
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[SPEAKER_01]: he's going to like around the QB22.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's going to be, I think he could be the QB1 this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think his passing's improved.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's in a leak, runner.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They've drafted Kdom Proctor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Olin's going to be good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got a change the best for seating back, maybe CMC.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maleklus for me is absolutely must drop.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm going to probably take off for safety, something like that, down, you know, and I'm taking Maleklus every time no matter what.
16:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
16:17
[SPEAKER_00]: My question, you know, that is outside of HN is who they're, you know, who they're other white outs.
16:24
[SPEAKER_01]: No, but I think it's going to be like that.
16:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're going to be like the bills, the Ravens.
16:29
[SPEAKER_01]: These run heavy at teams, 50, 50 runs the run pass split, right?
16:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Everything's going through Wilson, HN and then, you know, you got dualitz has a tight end to his sneaky.
16:37
[SPEAKER_01]: They
16:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Not Washington, when Millie Washington, yeah, I think to do that.
16:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, like there's there's some kind like people receivers if they if it runs through the run game the online doesn't job I just I think Millie well, so it's gonna blow the change up.
16:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay fair enough.
16:58
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't rest my god.
16:59
[SPEAKER_00]: That's my time Guide for me and people, you know, this guy really emerged at the end of his tire shop
17:07
[SPEAKER_00]: That Saints offense can also, you know, we were talking about top five offense when we started the show that Saints offense could end up in that top five Wow, you think it really I don't came on at the end of last year, yeah, a lot of you have come are you had Travis H and and then you also had my guy Jordan Tyson.
17:27
[SPEAKER_00]: One, your guy.
17:29
[SPEAKER_00]: That is my guy, I will.
17:30
[SPEAKER_00]: And I've watched a lot of him for the last two years.
17:33
[SPEAKER_00]: And I've watched a lot of him in college last year.
17:36
[SPEAKER_00]: He's played for my school.
17:37
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm partly a little bias here, some of the issue.
17:40
[SPEAKER_00]: But also, I know who was coaching him up, coming out of college, and I was high as war.
17:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
17:46
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's tough because I mean, I think everybody, nobody that he was good kind of caught like because he's older and I've been saw the video of him like throwing weird and then a lot of had the injuries and but end of the season when he came in for.
18:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm forgetting the, the guy who ever spent, spent, spent, spent around there.
18:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Or, no, spent around, sorry.
18:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, but Chuck was running the ball for touchdowns.
18:09
[SPEAKER_01]: He's thrown for like 250.
18:10
[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of it was a wide receiver six.
18:12
[SPEAKER_01]: He's at Alfa.
18:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they Jordan Tyson, who's your favorite rookie, wider receiver and we'd other great.
18:17
[SPEAKER_01]: And the, the tight end is tight, that's what I'm talking to.
18:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Joe, I think, second.
18:22
[SPEAKER_01]: In receiving air, it's last here.
18:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
18:25
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, a lot of kind of hudder balls are 1163 yards last year with nine tuddies.
18:29
[SPEAKER_00]: We played 16 games, so we proved at least there's a chance he could finally get through some of the health stuff.
18:35
[SPEAKER_00]: And as much as we've backed on, we've talked about a lot of his health over a little bit.
18:40
[SPEAKER_00]: He's only up until, up until 2024, to mean this like a game or two each time.
18:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it wasn't.
18:46
[SPEAKER_00]: It just felt more significant than it really was.
18:49
[SPEAKER_00]: But you know, also a lot of man, you know, core back issues.
18:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's been finally square away, you know, if a lot of you can send the field, that offense can be top five.
19:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I, I respect the bull called the, I just do a line.
19:03
[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't really improve it.
19:05
[SPEAKER_01]: It's one of the works that aligns.
19:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I just think that they're going to struggle there, but yeah, tell a more great play color.
19:09
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess I'm following the ATN, but it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, yeah, it's basically, it's basically, for now, it's very similar with Devon HN, that's HN, according to him.
19:18
[SPEAKER_01]: That's annoying.
19:19
[SPEAKER_01]: But he had his great year, but he had this outlier season, because he had six receiving touchdowns.
19:25
[SPEAKER_01]: He had three in that week, 15 against the deaths, but he had only had like three in his career.
19:30
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that was a bit of an outlier, the same silverley thrower running back.
19:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm out on him.
19:35
[SPEAKER_01]: But Chuck is going, what's he going as a QB like 2018?
19:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, not high.
19:40
[SPEAKER_00]: People are still forgetting about him.
19:43
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I, so I'm pretty high on the stance.
19:45
[SPEAKER_00]: And the RMR also the HN2 is that,
19:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Alvin Camaro still there such as another threat for shot and we're talking about it We're strictly talking about the quarterback here of who you know who you should draft.
19:58
[SPEAKER_00]: It's him.
19:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Wait yeah, I love that schedule.
20:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they've got a super easy schedule too, right?
20:04
[SPEAKER_01]: They've got the second easiest schedule
20:06
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's, that's really nice.
20:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
20:08
[SPEAKER_01]: So to the couple, two guys I want to talk about because the offense is that the jags and the bears, right?
20:15
[SPEAKER_01]: We got Liam Cohen went to the jags.
20:16
[SPEAKER_01]: It took a half season and then they took all.
20:19
[SPEAKER_01]: They went crazy second half.
20:20
[SPEAKER_01]: They were scored down seven points and like four the last five bears same thing Ben Johnson goes there, takes a while to adjust and then boom, taking off.
20:27
[SPEAKER_01]: And the bears have all young pieces.
20:29
[SPEAKER_01]: The jags have three wide receivers.
20:31
[SPEAKER_01]: So Trevor Lawrence versus Caleb Williams, what do you do there?
20:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Because
20:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's for me it's still Trevor in the reason being there's a couple deep under there are couple like underlying stats surrounding Caleb that concern to me and I just trust Trevor more right now also the bears are going to need a third wide receiver so they just ship DJ more out so there's kind of questions behind of dunes a and Luther Brothers, but Caleb Williams so we complete a 58% of his passes.
21:00
[SPEAKER_00]: He had one of the worst catchable ball percentages, you know, when we as well as a quarterback and a lot of it, you got to remember to there was a lot of kind of miracle ball like late game heroics.
21:12
[SPEAKER_00]: That's it's a tough world to have to keep going into and how to look out.
21:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
21:18
[SPEAKER_01]: So you're like Lawrence same tier or didn't the Lawrence did a tier about because he was with the QB5.
21:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care what's probably going to QB8 or 9.
21:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're in the same tier just simply because, you know, they both got to prove it again.
21:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Lawrence, we, we thought he had the break out a couple years ago, you know, everything kind of fell apart again.
21:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Now he's kind of come back, so to me and they're in the same tier.
21:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so let's break it down a little bit.
21:43
[SPEAKER_01]: So, oh, line, we get it to the bearer, it's clearly, right?
21:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for sure.
21:46
[SPEAKER_01]: A cozy Ben Johnson versus Lee and Cohen.
21:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go with Ben Johnson, I don't know your Ben Johnson here.
21:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I just think what he did in Detroit was incredible and what he's done, you know, your one with Caleb was great.
21:57
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you can become, you can't a three yard short of beam of first four thousand New York pastor for the bears.
22:03
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't see why he can't eclipse that total this year.
22:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
22:07
[SPEAKER_01]: It's time.
22:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
22:07
[SPEAKER_01]: What about weapons?
22:08
[SPEAKER_01]: So we got Parker Washington, B.P.J.
22:10
[SPEAKER_01]: to Kobe Myers versus Rome, Coastal Lovelin, Luther Burtin.
22:14
[SPEAKER_01]: That's pretty close for me.
22:16
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm still going to the jacks because if you're throwing in tight end, you're also getting Brent and Strange.
22:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
22:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Nice.
22:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
22:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
22:24
[SPEAKER_00]: I like, I like Jacksonville here.
22:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
22:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
22:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Nice.
22:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
22:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, I'm actually don't know where I planned yet.
22:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I might lean bears to some really high and cold to Leblon, but it's so close for me.
22:37
[SPEAKER_00]: It is.
22:37
[SPEAKER_00]: It's painfully close.
22:38
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not like this.
22:41
[SPEAKER_00]: And the also the Jaguars also drafted another two tight ends as well on Nate Boker or Burke Kercher and Tener Coziel, you know, both one guy from A&M, one guy from Houston.
22:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Those guys can both play and catch the ball very well.
22:56
[SPEAKER_00]: The one question I have for the Jags though is the running game, which also kind of leans more for me for Lawrence.
23:03
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like with Tutan and Chris Rotten Reyes.
23:06
[SPEAKER_00]: They're not, you know, the greatest running backs ever, I could see Warren's putting a lot on his shoulders on the ground, which is great for fantasy managers.
23:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, because we know Ben Johnson really likes to run the ball.
23:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he has those weapons, but he's going to be using modern gay and deandry sweat.
23:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
23:22
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell you that's not more wild than Trevor.
23:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm probably with you there.
23:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
23:26
[SPEAKER_01]: One more guy want to talk about maybe we can do a couple of a baker.
23:29
[SPEAKER_01]: So bakers can I use your guy, too, isn't he?
23:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, one baker.
23:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
23:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
23:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Bakers it.
23:34
[SPEAKER_01]: So Naka Bouga is unlike the cover of the graph guide.
23:36
[SPEAKER_01]: He's my number one must the graph player.
23:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, like, I've got my less Malik, uh, Malik Wilson's there.
23:42
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's a Bouga dot, you know.
23:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't leave your back.
23:45
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24:01
[SPEAKER_01]: So let's, but so let's talk Baker though.
24:03
[SPEAKER_01]: So Baker 41 touchdowns two years ago.
24:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Last year kind of year from hell, right?
24:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Taylor McBillen gets hurt in the free season.
24:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Mike Evans gets hurt.
24:10
[SPEAKER_01]: God don't get hurt.
24:11
[SPEAKER_01]: A boogie gets hurt.
24:11
[SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy.
24:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Trusting worse, one of the best online men in football gets hurt.
24:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Bucky gets hurt, right?
24:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Liam Cohen's gone.
24:18
[SPEAKER_01]: They bring in, I think, with Zach Robinson from Atlanta this year.
24:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Do we get old?
24:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Do we get, which Baker are we going to get?
24:24
[SPEAKER_01]: And where's he in that Caleb Trevor kind of tier for you?
24:29
[SPEAKER_00]: same tier.
24:29
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to get more 20 24 baker in my opinion, if we are 20 25 baker with, you know, those three eyes healthy for the time being.
24:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Also don't forget I test Johnson.
24:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
24:40
[SPEAKER_00]: That's awesome.
24:42
[SPEAKER_00]: It was sneaky good for me.
24:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, they're Channing MVP for him.
24:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the other guy that we're also forgetting that they had is so there's a little bit more clarity in the back field now, but they also had a Kenny Jainwell who's been one of the best catching backs in the league or was one of the best catching back past catching backs in the league last year and then Kate Otten who's also very good at the tight end position.
25:02
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, yeah, because I've been doing a lot of the box, I think they were like 20, 23rd targeting running backs off season, but two years ago, the bucky work these season when they'd link home and they were top five.
25:12
[SPEAKER_01]: So with bucky and gain while that's two running backs, you know, you can target and get a lot of yards was just cheap fancy points for Baker.
25:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I just just paid the Baker book is back, it's just gonna be so happy for me.
25:22
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I'm also going to get down to film because I think he's awesome.
25:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's so mispriced.
25:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this brought for sure.
25:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, everybody forgot about them after because he missed like he basically missed half the season with that ankle injury.
25:31
[SPEAKER_01]: So, well, well, he played like three, four games.
25:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, say it wasn't, it wasn't much.
25:36
[SPEAKER_00]: And so everybody just kind of forgot about them.
25:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so let's, we got a few more minutes here, let's talk super flex does does anything change for you in super flex when you think into one QP are you going more ceiling or because you got to do to are you a little more risk of verse like would you ever get to to running court of acts in super flex draft.
25:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, wouldn't be a threat of doing it.
25:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I'm not up.
25:58
[SPEAKER_00]: like I'm just trying to find a way to get the the most amount of points and like at the end of the day if that's the ceiling that's the ceiling I don't really I don't know I'm so aiming for stacks really at least one stack in a superfly suit you know if I end up with like my homes all look for Xavier worthy so to speak or yeah so I'm still looking to get a stack you whether it be super flags to give you if I can get it I will take it
26:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you going early?
26:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, let's say you have the 8th pick, right?
26:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, if you have, you know, you're taking one of the really studs.
26:29
[SPEAKER_01]: 8th pick and the super flex.
26:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you forcing that QB, where maybe you've got to take, you know, Trevor Lawrence or Caleb or a, you know, DAC or it's like, okay, no, I'll just take B's on or to my chase.
26:40
[SPEAKER_00]: If I be a pick and how many team league?
26:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'll take another position player first, but I'll definitely take a corner back with one of my first two picks.
26:50
[SPEAKER_00]: depending on in less seven quarterbacks, well off the board first, then I'll take quarterback.
26:55
[SPEAKER_00]: If the no quarterbacks are gone, I will take running back or receive our first.
26:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, okay, okay.
27:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Last guy with a two minutes, Brock Perti.
27:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, what show is this without nine?
27:08
[SPEAKER_01]: So I was just listening to the pod and they're saying like, Perti, when he plays, he's one of the best fancy duties in the league, right?
27:15
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got, he runs those score touchdowns.
27:17
[SPEAKER_01]: He's reckless, he throws deep.
27:19
[SPEAKER_01]: The, you know, the Shannon offense is always a league.
27:22
[SPEAKER_01]: They got CMC, you got 100 balls, that's three points.
27:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Is Perti being kind of slept on this season.
27:28
[SPEAKER_00]: a little bit, yeah, but not that much, but I will say this about Brock, like, well, I'm higher on other guys this year than him, Brock can also be a top three cast.
27:40
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got, he's got a chance.
27:41
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if you look at the, so I was a he missed nine games last year, and, but his first two game for solid and then the fancy playoffs, he went a few quicker.
27:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, 30 plus multiple his semi-final and final weeks for the fantasy playoffs he had 32 plus points in both of those games.
28:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's right.
28:01
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what I'm talking like parties a guy.
28:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I will aggressively target one cubic because I get them so late and in the superflex because of kind of the injury concerns.
28:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't necessarily want to have to take him with what maybe that third round or something and then and then be tied to him.
28:16
[SPEAKER_01]: where as if I can go perity and get golf, I can start perity, pretty good to start a golf or do a little schedule mixing matching.
28:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for sure.
28:24
[SPEAKER_00]: The other question is still just the receiving quarter.
28:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, we bring in my get-ins.
28:28
[SPEAKER_00]: You'll be the out of question number one.
28:30
[SPEAKER_00]: After that, two through five is a giant question mark.
28:34
[SPEAKER_00]: We keep here so I'll start the years, the two, but he's got to say healthy.
28:38
[SPEAKER_00]: He missed a ton of time last year.
28:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Juan Jennings is gone.
28:42
[SPEAKER_00]: So now you, so his safety blanket is gone.
28:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Now you have just a host of young guys of who's going to emerge is how is that going to shuffle into three four and five?
28:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Is it going to be the rookie that they just took to John Strybling, see you know emerges the number three?
28:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Is it going to be Jordan Watkins, the guy who's last year, emerges the number three or is going to be Jacob Cowen, guy in this all last year, do a hamstring injury, but he has a lot of Demosandel in them.
29:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's kind of misleading though, because CMC is a sentio widers here with a hundred grabs and then also George Kiddle coming off with the is it the Hillies yeah, Joe is I mean, he's a freak so it's like those are two elite receivers, but right back to Ricky Pierce all I think Pierce all is a freaking superstar, I think he's yards and he's got a damn feel I know, but he's his 80 pina is crazy and considering how great parties with the deep all and how fast Pierce all is, I think that's such a great lowkey staff.
29:39
[SPEAKER_00]: It's for sure.
29:40
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just the injury prone is is a very big issue and it's is a fair concern now after two seasons.
29:49
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29:52
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