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How did we get here? Detailing the Buffalo Bills 2025 Struggles | DC · Disguised Coverage

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Speaker 1: oh A n T. In this episode of Disguised Coverage,
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Speaker 1: we will be diving into the pain points for the
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five Buffalo Bills and essentially having discussion of
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Speaker 1: as indicated in the title and ontographic, a discussion on
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Speaker 1: or of how did we get here? How did this
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Speaker 1: Bills team that had? And I do want to preface
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Speaker 1: all of this. I'll say this about the episode, but
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Speaker 1: I'll say it now as well, because this is the intro.
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Speaker 1: I don't think the Bills are done, are dead. I
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Speaker 1: don't think this season is over. I definitely think things
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Speaker 1: are very worrisome and very troublesome on both sides of
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Speaker 1: the ball. And I don't think they are things that
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Speaker 1: are easily rectified or fixed this year, and the fixes
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Speaker 1: even going forward are another conversation that is potentially worrisome
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Speaker 1: and troublesome. But we will discuss that as we go
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Speaker 1: forward here. But I don't think the Bills are done.
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Speaker 1: I don't think this season is over, and I don't think,
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Speaker 1: you know, they should be completely written off. But nonetheless,
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Speaker 1: this is a team that is floundering right now on
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Speaker 1: both sides of the ball. They they look just so
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Speaker 1: disconnected and disjointed. And I'm reading that comments. O kay more,
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Speaker 1: you said I woke up at Jordan Phillip's just got
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Speaker 1: displaced again. That's very funny Connor saying, Yo, what NBA
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Speaker 1: jersey is that? This is a white Chicago Bulls Scotty
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Speaker 1: Pippen jersey. Oh, I can't stand up enough so you
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Speaker 1: can see the thirty three. There's a thirty three. This
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Speaker 1: is a white Scottie Pippen Bulls jersey. He is arguably
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Speaker 1: my favorite NBA player of all time. Shout out to
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Speaker 1: you for noticing the jersey. Yeah, this team, they're floundering
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Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball. I don't think this
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Speaker 1: is news to anyone. I don't think that's revelatory or
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Speaker 1: some shocking statement. But I do want to kind of
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Speaker 1: trace how we got here, pick up the bread crumbs,
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Speaker 1: put all the puzzle pieces together, to talk about how
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Speaker 1: we got to this point here in twenty twenty five,
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Speaker 1: because I know there's a lot of conversation of who's
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Speaker 1: the blame or what's the blame or what the problem
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Speaker 1: is and the hows and the whys behind it all.
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Speaker 1: And I think there's a lot of narratives that are
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Speaker 1: out there based on, you know, certain biases that people have,
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Speaker 1: and even just kind of putting that within the backdrop
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Speaker 1: or landscape of all the emotion and the frustration that's
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Speaker 1: tied to where this team is right now, and as
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Speaker 1: we always do here on the show, especially when things
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Speaker 1: are tough here for the Buffalo Bills, Questions, thoughts, comments, concerns,
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Speaker 1: anything you folks have or you want to put into
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Speaker 1: the chat. I'll bring everything up as much as humanly possible,
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Speaker 1: especially when I write solo on these episodes. I love
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Speaker 1: making these episodes as engaging and is engagement focused as possible.
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Speaker 1: So anything you got, questions, thoughts, comments, concerns, feel free
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Speaker 1: to put into the chat. I'll bring up everything as
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Speaker 1: much as I can. Super chats as always get priority
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Speaker 1: because I respect the monetary donation and I see the
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Speaker 1: color that's attached to them, and it distracts me from
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Speaker 1: my notes. I have several topics I want to get
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Speaker 1: into tonight. I'm sure that will fit in largely with
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Speaker 1: a lot of the frustrations, comments and things that you
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Speaker 1: folks have into the chat, and we'll dive into things
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Speaker 1: as we go forward here. But I kind of wanted
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Speaker 1: to start with, you know, kind of my my theme
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Speaker 1: for this episode and how it kind of came about. I.
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Speaker 1: You know, and I've said this before on the show,
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Speaker 1: largely in like joking manners, but when the Bills lost
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Speaker 1: in thirteen seconds that game, a good chunk of like
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Speaker 1: my fandom died. I was heartbroken and distraught with that loss.
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Speaker 1: It was another creative way for the Bills to lose
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Speaker 1: a game. It came on a very big stage, in
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Speaker 1: arguably the greatest football game, or at least NFL game
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Speaker 1: I had ever seen, and the team it came against,
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Speaker 1: and how it came about everything just it completely gutted me.
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Speaker 1: And between that and the way I see the game
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Speaker 1: of football from an exi's and no standpoint and a
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Speaker 1: schematic standpoint, and being in this podcast space and watching
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Speaker 1: all the tape that I do and doing this on
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Speaker 1: a regular basis, you know, I started to appreciate the
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Speaker 1: game more for just football, for the sport is what
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Speaker 1: it was, more so than just being a Bills fan,
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Speaker 1: even though I am one thousand percent, you know, a
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Speaker 1: Bills fan first and foremost when it comes to my fandom.
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Speaker 1: But between a good chunk of my heart and soul
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Speaker 1: dying in that game. And then the way that I
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Speaker 1: see the game and started to study it and learn
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Speaker 1: more about it and enjoy it more schematically in x's
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Speaker 1: and o's, I started to find myself not really getting
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Speaker 1: frustrated too much when when things wouldn't go the Bill's way,
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Speaker 1: I wasn't too you know, torn down with how they
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Speaker 1: lost to Cincinnati in the playoffs. You know, this pass
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Speaker 1: lost to Kansas City in the playoffs annoyed me a
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Speaker 1: good chunk because it was Kansas City again, and you know,
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Speaker 1: not recognizing the corner blitz from the boundary and the
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Speaker 1: drop from Kinka, all the injuries of the defense the
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Speaker 1: year before, I would get annoyed and bothered, but it
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Speaker 1: was very rare for me to really get, like legitimately frustrated.
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Speaker 1: And I found myself after this loss to the Texans
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Speaker 1: just not overwhelmingly frustrated, but extremely frustrated. And a lot
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Speaker 1: of it is tied to the schematics of it, and
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Speaker 1: a lot of it is tied to things that and
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Speaker 1: then I'm not saying this to pat myself on the back.
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Speaker 1: A lot of the struggles that we're seeing with this team.
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Speaker 1: And then we're going to talk about tonight. Are things
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Speaker 1: that I've been talking about since last season that I
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Speaker 1: talked about the entirety of this offseason anywhere in any
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Speaker 1: anywhere and everywhere that you saw or heard me. I
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Speaker 1: was talking about worries for the run defense with how
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Speaker 1: they built this defense, Worries about what could happen to
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Speaker 1: the offense if they didn't have true bucket getters on
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Speaker 1: the outside and or vertical presence or downfield presence in
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Speaker 1: the offense. How everything could kind of just off of
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Speaker 1: those two pain points. And we're going to talk about
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Speaker 1: a couple more aside from that in this episode, but
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Speaker 1: just how those two pain points aload alone could compound
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Speaker 1: and make everything worse and scary for this team. And
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Speaker 1: I talked about you know guys they brought in, and
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Speaker 1: how they weren't really addressing or answering certain problems they
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Speaker 1: had from last year. I talked about all these worrisome
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Speaker 1: things and so many of as William says, the Bills
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Speaker 1: a broken and fire McDermott, that's funny. So many of
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Speaker 1: the things that I talked about is like this could
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Speaker 1: be really worrisome, and they haven't addressed this. This could
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Speaker 1: be a problem. So many of those things have come
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Speaker 1: to fruition, and it's annoyed the hell out of me
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Speaker 1: to the point that I found myself sitting here after
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Speaker 1: this Texans game, or sitting there after the Texans game,
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Speaker 1: and I just thought that game was such a representation
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Speaker 1: and you could say this about several games this year,
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Speaker 1: but I thought it was such a good representation and
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Speaker 1: microcosm of the struggles of this team on both sides
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Speaker 1: of the ball. In one game, you saw what the
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Speaker 1: run defense struggles lead to and how that's tied to
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Speaker 1: who they brought in and what their roster building and
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Speaker 1: philosophy and identity is. On the defensive side of the ball.
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Speaker 1: We saw the other side of the ball and the
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Speaker 1: offense as we've been seeing for weeks on weeks, where
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Speaker 1: you have defense that continue to just creep up and
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Speaker 1: creep up and stack the middle and stack in between
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Speaker 1: the numbers and the boundaries because they are not fearful
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Speaker 1: of getting beat on the outside or getting beat vertical.
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Speaker 1: And we've seen how that's comed up the works for
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Speaker 1: the offense. Everything has just been creeping up little by little.
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Speaker 1: At the Texans game, I felt like was such a
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Speaker 1: culmination of all those things, and I found myself frustrated
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Speaker 1: in a way that I did I had not been
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Speaker 1: in a very long time. Even with thirteen seconds, I
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Speaker 1: was sad more than I was angry. I was truly
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Speaker 1: sad when they lost in thirteen seconds. And I haven't
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Speaker 1: been angry like that with the Bills in a very
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Speaker 1: long time, or even sports like It takes a lot
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Speaker 1: for me still to get like angry. I think the
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Speaker 1: angries I haven't been. The three angriest things I've been
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Speaker 1: in There are times in sports of the last year.
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Speaker 1: If anyone cares, this Bill's lost to Houston, which may seem,
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Speaker 1: you know, small compared to their playoff losses, but the
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Speaker 1: Bills lost against Houston. I'm a Barcelona fan, so they're
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Speaker 1: lost in the semi finals of the Champions League, and
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Speaker 1: the second leg against Inter Milan angered me. And then
10:04
Speaker 1: the Red Sox trading Rafael Devers. Those are the three
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Speaker 1: angriest things I've been in the last year, and this
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Speaker 1: Bill's one. I just haven't been this angry with or
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Speaker 1: about the Bills in a very very long time. And
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Speaker 1: I found myself up until oh, I don't remember Thursday
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Speaker 1: night Friday morning, just angry, knowing I had to go
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Speaker 1: to bed to get up for work and finish the week.
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Speaker 1: But I was just frustrated, and I know a lot
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Speaker 1: of you folks are frustrated, and it was just absolutely
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Speaker 1: palpable how frustrated I was with this team. And so
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Speaker 1: that caused me to kind of really not unleash, but
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Speaker 1: really unravel and kind of dive in a little bit
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Speaker 1: to the pain points of this team, because I do
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Speaker 1: think it is I don't think what we're seeing is
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Speaker 1: due to any one thing. I don't think the problems
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Speaker 1: that we're seeing are on a small scale. I think
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Speaker 1: the struggles we're seeing on both sides of the ball
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Speaker 1: are large scale. They are systemic. They start from the
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Speaker 1: top down positive you know, I think a lot of
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Speaker 1: things start from the top down positively and negatively. But
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Speaker 1: a lot of these pain points start from the top.
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Speaker 1: They are woven in through the fabric and identity of
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Speaker 1: this team schematically individually from a roster standpoint, And so
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Speaker 1: I think we should talk about those things. And I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna go through the comments now as we do, and
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Speaker 1: then we'll start to dive into those topics on this episode.
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Speaker 1: So we can all be angry together? Also happy Thanksgiving?
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Speaker 1: Oh and I moved my hands too much. The camera
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Speaker 1: went out of focus. This is just everybody's everything just
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Speaker 1: wants to make me angry. Fantastic, I'm gonna stand up.
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Speaker 1: Hopefully the camera comes back and to refocus. There we go.
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Speaker 1: There's the trick. We'll start with some comments here again
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Speaker 1: super chats. Feel free to put them throughout the episode. Questions, thoughts, comments,
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Speaker 1: concerns throughout the episode. But as we do here on
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Speaker 1: the show, we'll start with some comments and thoughts from
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Speaker 1: the live chat, and then we'll start to get into
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Speaker 1: the meat of the episode. John, I just want to
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Speaker 1: grab this because I saw John says too young for
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Speaker 1: the Music City Miracle. I was a little tike for
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Speaker 1: the Music City Miracle, but I was more just shocked
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Speaker 1: than anything. I As I've gotten older, I'm angry. I
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Speaker 1: thought it was a forward pass and I couldn't believe
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Speaker 1: that everybody and their mother. Even as a little kid,
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Speaker 1: I was like, why is everybody running after Frank? Whychick Frank?
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Speaker 1: Whycheck running to the sideline? Clearly he's not going anywhere.
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Speaker 1: Why are we all selling out for Frank? Wicheck and Also,
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Speaker 1: I think my frustration started higher at the beginning because
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Speaker 1: I couldn't understand how Doug Flutie wasn't started. Obviously we
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Speaker 1: know why, you know, years later, and Ralph Wilson being
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Speaker 1: the one to make that call. I was so confused.
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Speaker 1: This is like a little kid. I just remember Fluty
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Speaker 1: getting the Bills so much and doing so much and
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Speaker 1: changing so much, and how good their defense was, and
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Speaker 1: I was so confused and angry to start the game
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Speaker 1: that you know, Flutie wasn't playing. And then Johnson still
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Speaker 1: kind of gets it done. He loses his shoe, still
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Speaker 1: scrambles for a first down. So the musicity miracle. As
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Speaker 1: I've gotten older, I've gotten angry with it. But at
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Speaker 1: the time I was more just shocked and sad than anything.
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Speaker 1: At that time, I'm gonna work my way back when
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Speaker 1: grabbing these, I'm just gonna sound first, Joe says. I
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Speaker 1: view organizational direction and coaching philosophy like a piece of gum.
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Speaker 1: It starts out great but loses its flavor as you chew.
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Speaker 1: I think the Bills need to get a new piece,
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Speaker 1: maybe spearmint this time. I think that's a pretty good analogy.
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Speaker 1: I like that I like that. I like that. I
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Speaker 1: like that. You know it goes great with spearmctgum one
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Speaker 1: PI pizza. Sorry, Joe, I'm just kidding. Jose in the
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Speaker 1: beginning of the episode says, Brandon Cook's good waiver wire pickup.
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Speaker 1: We are going to talk about Brandon Cooks in this episode.
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Speaker 1: My shorthand thoughts right now, meh, But we'll get into
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Speaker 1: that a little bit. And Joe at the beginning said
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Speaker 1: drop a lke for and even though he bullies me
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Speaker 1: over pizza choices. Yeah, that's fair, but I mean you
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Speaker 1: did yourself. Cam Moorey says he spotted h climb, Mario
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Speaker 1: Addison and Levi Wallace at Duff's not Great, Jose says,
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Speaker 1: why can't buffalo you? Shakir correctly, I want to this.
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Speaker 1: I think this is a fair point. But also I
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Speaker 1: don't think the notion of the wide receiver screens and
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Speaker 1: everything he gets in and around the line of scrimmage
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Speaker 1: is super crazy. Like his best skill set, that best attribute,
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Speaker 1: best trade, however you verbalize it or view that is
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Speaker 1: getting the ball in his hands and just doing work
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Speaker 1: so the quicker you can get the ball in his hands.
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Speaker 1: I understand that notion right, like, let's get it to
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Speaker 1: him quick, Let's get blockers out in front of him,
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Speaker 1: Let's essentially treat him like a running back at the
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Speaker 1: wide receiver position. Get the ball to him, and then
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Speaker 1: we'll kind of go from there. I think the issue
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Speaker 1: with it is it's gotten just too predictable, and honestly,
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Speaker 1: even there's other times where the numbers are favorable and
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Speaker 1: Alan isn't isn't hitting the screen, He's doing something else.
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Speaker 1: But I do think he can work down field a
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Speaker 1: bit more. I do think he can work into the intermediate,
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Speaker 1: you know, the I would say the high underneath to
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Speaker 1: load amid intermediate. I don't think he's a field stretcher.
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Speaker 1: He's not some guy that's gonna win vertical and do
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Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff there. But I do think he
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Speaker 1: is a guy who can work on digs and get
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Speaker 1: more slants and get some outbreakers, some option routes. I
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Speaker 1: do think he obviously can do more than just what
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Speaker 1: he's doing. But I don't hate. Sorry if anybody sees
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Speaker 1: me do this is because the camera I'm moving too
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Speaker 1: much out of my frustration and the cameras doesn't focus.
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Speaker 1: I don't think he's you know, completely being used incorrectly,
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Speaker 1: especially with what his average depth the target was last
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Speaker 1: year at certain points. But I do think just siloing
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Speaker 1: him so much to that role in theory and in
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Speaker 1: you know, kind of all practicality. With how it's gone on,
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Speaker 1: it's pretty frustrating. Charles says, he's here to pay the bills.
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Speaker 1: I like that. Oh, Connor says it has to start
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Speaker 1: with twenty twenty three in the Digs trade. Oh funny, funny,
15:23
Speaker 1: funny how things come full circle. And man, how how
15:28
Speaker 1: everybody's kind of saying Sun a different to him not
15:30
Speaker 1: saying that you have. But it's just funny seeing everybody
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Speaker 1: be upset now that Digs has gone after everybody's ready
15:34
Speaker 1: to drag him and jettison him into the sun. William says,
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Speaker 1: maybe I'm in the minority, but I'm glad being gedn't
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Speaker 1: trade away a first plus for Waddle. The team clearly
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Speaker 1: has multiple holes with cap issues, and trading a first
15:45
Speaker 1: seems risky. I feel like you are probably in the minority,
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Speaker 1: and as John after you says, yes, you are in
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Speaker 1: the minority, I don't think that's a crazy notion either,
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Speaker 1: because yeah, I don't think getting Wattle is something that
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Speaker 1: makes up for all the other holes. Like you do
16:01
Speaker 1: need to fix a good chunk of things on this
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Speaker 1: team that you need draft capital for and finances for.
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Speaker 1: But I do think getting Waddle could have gone a
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Speaker 1: long way for the offense and open things up and
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Speaker 1: put you into a spot where it could help the defense.
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Speaker 1: From a game script standpoint, I would have given a
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Speaker 1: first for Wattle, even though I think he's more I
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Speaker 1: think Wattle's more of a high end two, low end one.
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Speaker 1: But he's a very good wide receiver. He's a very
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Speaker 1: good player, and his skill set would have been so
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Speaker 1: welcome in this offense. I would have done that trade.
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Speaker 1: And I say that as a person who really values
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Speaker 1: draft capital and really not giving it up unless the
16:41
Speaker 1: value is really tremendously there. Oh, Heather says about thirteen
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Speaker 1: seconds game, after twenty minutes of silence, I turned to
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Speaker 1: my mom and said, quote, that might be as close
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Speaker 1: as we ever come to a Super Bowl. Oh God, Yeah.
16:56
Speaker 1: Connor saying the defense feels like it's flipped. First half
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Speaker 1: of the season, pass or was good, but coverage was bad.
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Speaker 1: Now it feels like the opposite. Because of the defensive
17:03
Speaker 1: line conundrum you know what's funny about that, I have
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Speaker 1: I put out things throughout the week and then I
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Speaker 1: retweet them so that way they're at the top of
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Speaker 1: my Twitter feed, so I can easily just grab them.
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Speaker 1: Here four episodes. Joey Bosa was a large part of
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Speaker 1: why the pass rush was really cooking early on in
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Speaker 1: the year. He was getting pressures. He was even though
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Speaker 1: he wasn't getting a ton of stacks, he was getting
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Speaker 1: QB hits. He was getting pressures, he was forcing fumbles.
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Speaker 1: He was a big difference maker up front of the Bills.
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Speaker 1: I know he's had run game struggles for folks, but
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Speaker 1: he was a big difference maker as a pass rusher.
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Speaker 1: And as he's been hurt, the pass russ productivity is
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Speaker 1: dipped a bit for this defensive line. Russou is still
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Speaker 1: putting some things up from you know, in numbers and
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Speaker 1: a metrics standpoint, but you're just not seeing the bite
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Speaker 1: and the tear from the Bills front as you were
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Speaker 1: when Bosa was really rocking. And Bosa hurt his week,
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Speaker 1: his week. He heard his wrist in Week nine against
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Speaker 1: Kansas City. Bill has also lost Michael Hoyt in that game.
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Speaker 1: So here are the Buffalo Bills pressure and sack rates
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Speaker 1: on the year and then after that Week nine game,
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Speaker 1: So on the year their fifteenth in pressure rate at
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Speaker 1: thirty four point eight percent and their ninth in sack
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Speaker 1: rate at seven point five percent. So that's on the
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Speaker 1: year thirty four point eight seven point five thirty four
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Speaker 1: point eight pressure rate, seven point five sack rate. These
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Speaker 1: are their numbers week ten, eleven, and twelve, obviously minus,
18:31
Speaker 1: well not minus, but with Joey Bosa essentially playing with
18:34
Speaker 1: the club and one hand, even though even though he
18:36
Speaker 1: got rid of the club, had the wrist brace and
18:39
Speaker 1: the tape, he's playing with one hand out there again
18:42
Speaker 1: he got hurt in Week nine. So here's their numbers
18:43
Speaker 1: week ten, eleven, and twelve. Week ten pressure rate thirty
18:47
Speaker 1: three point three percent against the Dolphins, not too much
18:50
Speaker 1: off from their thirty four point eight mark on the year,
18:53
Speaker 1: but a sack rate of zero percent. Week eleven against
18:57
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers pressure rate of twenty four point
19:00
Speaker 1: two percent, a good chunk off of their season rate
19:03
Speaker 1: of thirty four point eight percent, and their sacrate against
19:06
Speaker 1: Tampa was three percent, so significantly lower than their seven
19:08
Speaker 1: point five on the On the year, and then we
19:10
Speaker 1: twelve against the Houston Texans a pressure rate of sixteen
19:15
Speaker 1: point one percent and a sack rate of zero sixteen
19:20
Speaker 1: point one, significantly less than their season rate of thirty
19:23
Speaker 1: four point eight and obviously zero is much less and
19:26
Speaker 1: worse than seven point five percent for sacrate. Their pass
19:29
Speaker 1: rush has nose dived since Bosa has been hurt coincidentally
19:33
Speaker 1: or not. And yeah, it's it's really starting to show
19:40
Speaker 1: weaken and weak out. Bills are electric said struggles all
19:44
Speaker 1: caps offensive and defensive schemes. I think the Bills talent
19:47
Speaker 1: is being held back. I do think there's obviously schemandic issues.
19:53
Speaker 1: I do think there's a talent discrepancy as well. I
19:55
Speaker 1: don't think the Bills are an overly talented team, and
19:58
Speaker 1: I think they're a team that is an overly talented
20:01
Speaker 1: that also has schematic issues on both sides of the ball.
20:03
Speaker 1: And that's why we're kind of getting what we're getting, Bob.
20:09
Speaker 1: Since thirteen seconds was because of coaching. Ever since then,
20:11
Speaker 1: it seems it's been about roster construction and cap usage.
20:13
Speaker 1: Those areas haven't been in sync. Oh, yeah, that's fair
20:19
Speaker 1: what Penguin Man says. Maybe if we didn't draft ten
20:22
Speaker 1: thousand and three techts every year and just got a
20:24
Speaker 1: nose tackle at some point, we wouldn't be the worst
20:26
Speaker 1: run defense in the league for consecutive years. It's a
20:29
Speaker 1: fair point. We're gonna talk about that. Oh, this is
20:33
Speaker 1: a good comment here, but Bills went full Michael Scott
20:37
Speaker 1: with the oh yeah, well, I'm just gonna I'm just
20:38
Speaker 1: gonna mess to slash same body type defensive tackles, slash
20:42
Speaker 1: ignore wide receiver even harder. Yeah, just like Michael Dayton
20:46
Speaker 1: Pam's mom. Good times. Joey says seeing Demiico Ryans on
20:52
Speaker 1: that interview has me so pissed the head coaches explaining
20:54
Speaker 1: how dumb our game plan was. Was just pissed man. Yeah,
20:57
Speaker 1: for those who don't know Demiko Ryans, he does like
20:59
Speaker 1: a weekly sit down like podcast style interview with somebody
21:04
Speaker 1: official for the Texans, I believe. But he talked scheme
21:07
Speaker 1: and structure and a lot of good stuff. It's awesome
21:08
Speaker 1: to see. And what Joey here is referencing is Dimigo
21:11
Speaker 1: Ryan's talking about all the five man protections that Houston
21:15
Speaker 1: saw against the Bills and how that was surprising because
21:17
Speaker 1: they usually don't get a lot of that. They get
21:19
Speaker 1: teams that go more six and more even seven man
21:22
Speaker 1: protections to deal with their front and how the Bills
21:25
Speaker 1: didn't do that and how they thought that was a
21:27
Speaker 1: bit surprising, and what's also fun if you watch the
21:29
Speaker 1: film room, we talked about how not only were the
21:31
Speaker 1: Bills wing with a lot of five man protections, but
21:33
Speaker 1: they were going with five man protections where they would
21:36
Speaker 1: use one of their guards to kind of jump out
21:38
Speaker 1: or meet the spy. For the Texans defense, sometimes it
21:41
Speaker 1: was Henry to Toe, most of the time it was
21:43
Speaker 1: Aushi here number zero. So essentially you get like the
21:47
Speaker 1: four down front plus that aggressive spy on the snap,
21:51
Speaker 1: Edwards or Torrance would jump out to meet that spy
21:55
Speaker 1: who's just spying for Allen, So you would take that
21:58
Speaker 1: guard out of the protection and essentially just create even
22:02
Speaker 1: more one on one so instead of you know, five
22:05
Speaker 1: offensive linemen for four rushers, it would be four offensive
22:08
Speaker 1: linemen for four rushers. So you literally just went one
22:11
Speaker 1: on one man for man against one of the best
22:14
Speaker 1: fronts in football with probably the best edge rushing duo
22:17
Speaker 1: in the league, with Spencer Brown having one arm and
22:21
Speaker 1: getting hurt more throughout the game and leaving him in there.
22:24
Speaker 1: It just it was just Yeah, the game planning was
22:29
Speaker 1: was awful. We're all going to talk about that a
22:30
Speaker 1: bit in this episode as well. It's yes, it's not good,
22:34
Speaker 1: Roberts says, even with Cook, it's about creativity, which Brady
22:36
Speaker 1: Hashoni cannot do. Should bring Dable back as passing coordinator
22:40
Speaker 1: or interim Ooh, I have reservations about Dable, but I
22:43
Speaker 1: understand the thought there. Charles says, as a Bills fan
22:47
Speaker 1: that went through the drought era, it's tough. I love
22:49
Speaker 1: all the division titles, but we have to get at
22:51
Speaker 1: least one with Josh. No matter what, I just want one.
22:53
Speaker 1: No matter what, I don't care who's the quarterback. I
22:55
Speaker 1: don't care how it comes. I just want one super
22:57
Speaker 1: Bowl before I leave this earth. Man, I I just
23:00
Speaker 1: want one. I just want one. Jeffrey says, ore OC
23:06
Speaker 1: and DC have no answers. Dable and Fraser could figure
23:08
Speaker 1: it out, and players always got better. These players have peaked.
23:12
Speaker 1: No one is getting better. I think some players are
23:14
Speaker 1: getting better, but I feel your notion on you know,
23:16
Speaker 1: the current coaching staff not being to the level that
23:21
Speaker 1: you want them to be. I also think it's funny.
23:25
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying you're this person, Jeffrey, but I
23:28
Speaker 1: think in the same line of like the digs common
23:30
Speaker 1: from earlier, it's funny to see how like in the moment,
23:32
Speaker 1: like I remember so many people hated Fraser and Dable
23:34
Speaker 1: and wanted them gone, like similarly to kind of how
23:36
Speaker 1: people are calling for Joe Brady's head. People are doing
23:39
Speaker 1: that for Dable and Fraser. It's funny, like time heals
23:42
Speaker 1: all wounds, and the further you get from things it's
23:45
Speaker 1: just or the further you get away from the emotion
23:48
Speaker 1: of it, more perspective comes in and you're able to
23:51
Speaker 1: kind of see things clear. And I think, you know,
23:54
Speaker 1: I see people. You're not the only one in saying this, Jeffrey.
23:56
Speaker 1: I see people on Twitter talking about Gable and Fraser,
23:59
Speaker 1: people saying that I'm Blue Sky too, Like I get
24:00
Speaker 1: those comments in addition to the dig stuff. It's just
24:03
Speaker 1: it's funny how everything comes around and you have time
24:05
Speaker 1: heals all wounds or as perspective, however you want to
24:07
Speaker 1: view it. Penguin Man says, I feel like pretty much
24:12
Speaker 1: the entire team is just filled with men from Basic
24:14
Speaker 1: and Predictable schemes to drafting players that don't have the
24:16
Speaker 1: highest ceilings and fit into the same mold. I love
24:19
Speaker 1: that comment. That's a good one. We're gonna keep going
24:21
Speaker 1: with it. Oh, a really good comment here. So talking
24:23
Speaker 1: about the Thanksgiving tree looking good, Thank very much. I
24:25
Speaker 1: really like this garland. It's like orangeih and reddish, very
24:28
Speaker 1: fall like, it's got some different colored leaves on it.
24:31
Speaker 1: I'm really digging it should be for next week. I'll
24:34
Speaker 1: probably take the little tree and move it, you know,
24:37
Speaker 1: and then have the bigger Christmas tree with the white
24:41
Speaker 1: fake snow on it probably there, so we'll probably update
24:44
Speaker 1: that for the background next week. We'll see, we'll see,
24:47
Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see. Joey says McDermott has destroyed our
24:50
Speaker 1: powerful offense. We were a high flying, NonStop locomotive and
24:52
Speaker 1: now we're driving aprius. I don't think this was all McDermott.
24:56
Speaker 1: I don't, And I also think the changes they made
24:59
Speaker 1: were To talk about this more later, but I think
25:01
Speaker 1: the change in direction that they made offensively made a
25:04
Speaker 1: ton of sense. The best offenses in the NFL were
25:08
Speaker 1: operating off of running the football, condensed formations, bigger body
25:12
Speaker 1: types to kind of blur the lines between the run
25:14
Speaker 1: and the past. You saw these teams going into that world. Hell,
25:18
Speaker 1: I mean, for everybody who's talking about oh Man, like
25:21
Speaker 1: I love what mcveigh's doing in the Rams offense. I
25:23
Speaker 1: see this a lot from Bills fans. It's understandable, you know,
25:26
Speaker 1: and not even just Bills fans, but most fan bases,
25:29
Speaker 1: especially if your team is struggling. All the love for
25:31
Speaker 1: McVeigh this year, and all the love for Clint Kobiak,
25:34
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator for Seattle. Both of those teams use
25:37
Speaker 1: heavy personnel and don't go spread a ton. The Rams
25:41
Speaker 1: are using thirteen personnel a bunch. The Seahawks are using
25:45
Speaker 1: what twenty two, twenty one and twelve like, they're using
25:48
Speaker 1: aj Barner and Elijah Royo is tight ends, they're using
25:51
Speaker 1: a true full back, they're going under cent or drop
25:54
Speaker 1: back like. Their run game isn't good, but people see
25:57
Speaker 1: the throws and the explosives to JSN and some of
26:01
Speaker 1: the stuff with Cup and their passing game is good.
26:03
Speaker 1: But a lot of the best offense this was years ago,
26:06
Speaker 1: started moving towards condensed formations. Their reducing their formational with
26:11
Speaker 1: weaponizing twelve personnel bigger bodied eleven personnel. Again, the Rams
26:16
Speaker 1: were kind of at the forefront of that too. The
26:17
Speaker 1: Rams and the Lions several years ago that kind of
26:20
Speaker 1: were in the forefront of this movement. The Rams had
26:22
Speaker 1: Puoka and Cup and like to DeMarcus Robinson was last year.
26:28
Speaker 1: I forget who was there wide receiver three a couple
26:30
Speaker 1: of years ago, but both of those receivers, Cup and
26:32
Speaker 1: Pooka could block their butts off. And then you go
26:34
Speaker 1: to Detroit a couple of years ago and it was like,
26:36
Speaker 1: I'm on Ross Saint Brown, Josh Reynolds at wide receiver, dude,
26:40
Speaker 1: and I'm on Ros Sick. Obviously he's a great pass
26:42
Speaker 1: catcher and route runer. He's a dog as a blocker.
26:44
Speaker 1: Josh Reynolds was this bigger, bodied, thicker type of wide
26:47
Speaker 1: receiver that could catch a little bit, but also could
26:50
Speaker 1: mash nickel corners and safeties. The Bills changing their offense
26:54
Speaker 1: offensive identity in twenty twenty four was very much in
26:57
Speaker 1: line with league trends. The best and better offenses in
27:00
Speaker 1: the league all moved in that direction. They went away
27:03
Speaker 1: from spreading them out chuck it thirty to forty times
27:05
Speaker 1: a game and a lot of them move towards again
27:08
Speaker 1: reducing formational with getting the run involved tying it together,
27:12
Speaker 1: marrying it with the pass, and winning with personnel and
27:16
Speaker 1: formation and alignment. The issue with the Bills is they
27:20
Speaker 1: got so predictable with that and didn't build on their
27:23
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four and now they're kind of just dead
27:25
Speaker 1: in the water. But that's I'm going to dive into
27:27
Speaker 1: that further as we go forward. But this offense is
27:31
Speaker 1: built for the modern day NFL. And it's also funny
27:34
Speaker 1: how it's built to shred defenses like the ones they have,
27:37
Speaker 1: and yet they chose to go with this defense conversation
27:39
Speaker 1: for later in this episode. But yeah, I think they
27:41
Speaker 1: moved the offense in line with league trends. They just
27:44
Speaker 1: got so predictable and didn't build or evolve with their
27:48
Speaker 1: initial success last year. And that's where we're seeing the
27:51
Speaker 1: struggles that we're having. But we're going to continue to
27:52
Speaker 1: go on. Kay moy says, So ignoring one tech for
27:56
Speaker 1: right now, what hypothetically available wide receiver offsee and move
28:01
Speaker 1: would have worked out? Pickens dk Adams right and wrong
28:04
Speaker 1: answers are both welcome. Pickens is just too volatile, obviously,
28:08
Speaker 1: He's got talent, but he's a head case. I wouldn't
28:10
Speaker 1: have wanted Pickens DeVante Adams. I would have taken in
28:13
Speaker 1: a heartbeat the issue I'm seeing with DeVante Adams, though.
28:15
Speaker 1: I see some folks who were talking about, like his
28:17
Speaker 1: cap hit this year's only like twelve million, and then
28:19
Speaker 1: comparing that to Curtis Samuel's cap hit or Josh Palmer's
28:22
Speaker 1: cap hit Davante Adams. I look this up, and I
28:25
Speaker 1: want to make sure. DeVante Adams signed a two year,
28:30
Speaker 1: forty four million dollars deal with the Rams this past offseason.
28:34
Speaker 1: His cap hit next year is twenty eight million dollars,
28:38
Speaker 1: so it's a bit different. I see people throwing out, oh,
28:40
Speaker 1: look what his capit is in twenty twenty five. Yeah,
28:42
Speaker 1: but his twenty twenty six cap hit is crazy. DeVante
28:45
Speaker 1: Adams was the one for me now, even just because
28:48
Speaker 1: you listened him here that I was really hoping for
28:50
Speaker 1: a true man beater, a true craftsman. Still a very
28:53
Speaker 1: good wide receiver, even with the miles on the tires,
28:56
Speaker 1: and you're seeing him pay off for the Rams, like
28:58
Speaker 1: his release package work, his stem work, his deception, his
29:03
Speaker 1: work on the break. He's still got some He's still
29:05
Speaker 1: got some shake and some juice to him. He doesn't
29:07
Speaker 1: have this crazy long speed that he had in Green Bay, obviously,
29:10
Speaker 1: but he's still got the short area burst and quickness.
29:13
Speaker 1: Man like it would have been Adams for me. DK
29:16
Speaker 1: I think gets a little bit temperamental, and so that
29:18
Speaker 1: can get worrisome, especially with them coming off the Digs
29:21
Speaker 1: fiasco and from a personality standpoint, so he wasn't gonna work.
29:25
Speaker 1: Pickens wasn't gonna work. I think Adams was the guy
29:28
Speaker 1: for me with what they could have done, but such
29:32
Speaker 1: as life. R j says, an make me not sad
29:34
Speaker 1: about this team. I'm sorry. I hope. I don't know
29:36
Speaker 1: if I'm doing that or not, but I apologize either way.
29:39
Speaker 1: R Jil says, Ah love the thanks, Chivintry, thank you
29:41
Speaker 1: very much, appreciate you. Ah Bob says. The emphasis has
29:44
Speaker 1: been to raise the floor, but the ceiling of most
29:46
Speaker 1: isn't that much higher. Charles saying a lot of talk
29:51
Speaker 1: about the Rams team builds stars and scrubs, but they
29:53
Speaker 1: also missed the playoffs two times between Super Bowl appearances.
29:57
Speaker 1: I'd take that all day. If you told me we
29:59
Speaker 1: could get one title. But it's worth nothing. Yeah, I
30:00
Speaker 1: would take I would sacrifice anyone in anything on the
30:04
Speaker 1: Bills to get a Super Bowl. I would if you
30:06
Speaker 1: told me they had to trade Josh Allen today, but
30:08
Speaker 1: it would get them a super Bowl next year, guaranteed.
30:10
Speaker 1: I would trade Josh Allen immediately, right now, whatever it
30:12
Speaker 1: takes to get a super Bowl, Like, even if it
30:15
Speaker 1: means you're terrible for the next ten years. I don't
30:18
Speaker 1: just get one. That's me at this point. I need it.
30:22
Speaker 1: Connor says I literally fell to my knees when a
30:24
Speaker 1: coworker told me that Diggs was traded. Had to have
30:26
Speaker 1: an emergency call with my brother because it felt like
30:28
Speaker 1: someone died. Dang. Tristan says kin kid fifth year option
30:32
Speaker 1: a guarantee given his inability to stay healthy. Oh, good question.
30:38
Speaker 1: For me. It's not a guarantee at all. For the Bills.
30:40
Speaker 1: I think it's closer because they kind of have to
30:43
Speaker 1: given how they're built and their lack of other options.
30:46
Speaker 1: But for me, no, because of his inability to stay
30:49
Speaker 1: healthy and because he's limited in how they can use
30:52
Speaker 1: him because of his blocking ability or inability however you
30:56
Speaker 1: want to label it. M those are electrics. As are
31:00
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty six is negative being needs his draft
31:02
Speaker 1: picks as also and again twenty twenty six. So a
31:05
Speaker 1: twenty eight million Devontae Adam's cap hit or how are
31:07
Speaker 1: you trying to structure it was going to be a problem?
31:11
Speaker 1: What else I'm seeing some funny things? Yeah, Kay, Maury
31:15
Speaker 1: referendent earlier when I say when I said dip ye
31:17
Speaker 1: had nose dive might be appropriate. That's fine, that's fair.
31:20
Speaker 1: Tristan says, I hope Justin Jefferson wants out this offseason.
31:23
Speaker 1: Benny says, good news. We always hit on our first
31:25
Speaker 1: rounders and some of these negative comments are funny. I
31:27
Speaker 1: like it. Ah, yeah, Charles talking about too Yeah, how
31:31
Speaker 1: about Himko Ryan's in an interview saying the quiet part
31:33
Speaker 1: out loud about the predictability on offense. I think Kayln Bullock,
31:37
Speaker 1: the Texan safety, also said something similar about how like
31:41
Speaker 1: everything they studied was literally what they saw in the game.
31:44
Speaker 1: I think some of that is, you know, product of
31:46
Speaker 1: the short week, you don't have a lot of time
31:47
Speaker 1: to install new stuff or build. But yeah, they're just
31:52
Speaker 1: kind of predictable. Ah, this is a good comment. Lucy
31:59
Speaker 1: Gousey were the problems during the Houston game there when
32:02
Speaker 1: we put up forty four on Tampa offensively, Yeah, they
32:06
Speaker 1: were struggling to run the ball and their instructure pass
32:09
Speaker 1: game was still wonky. Allen was just making the high
32:14
Speaker 1: variance plays that tipped the scales. I also think they
32:18
Speaker 1: had a little less predictability because of the Allen high
32:21
Speaker 1: variance plays. But they struggled to run the football, and
32:25
Speaker 1: the instructure pass stuff wasn't necessarily there. It was a
32:28
Speaker 1: lot of yin and yang. I don't want to say
32:31
Speaker 1: sugar hi Josh allencase. I think people think that that negatively,
32:34
Speaker 1: But it was just those high variance plays that swung
32:37
Speaker 1: the pendulum significantly in their favor. Not to mention, you
32:40
Speaker 1: had a return touchdown from Ray Davis and you had
32:44
Speaker 1: a lot of really good field position that swung some
32:47
Speaker 1: things and changes things for you. So I think they
32:50
Speaker 1: had a good game script to kind of work to
32:52
Speaker 1: give the offense some success. But it really was just
32:54
Speaker 1: those high variance plays that swung the pendulum for them
32:59
Speaker 1: in that game. And again, Tampa's defense is banged up.
33:03
Speaker 1: They've got some dudes that are hurt. Jameel Dean goes
33:05
Speaker 1: down they're already missing Elijah Cansey. They don't have a
33:08
Speaker 1: ton of outside edge, rush, presence or pop, so you
33:11
Speaker 1: have no problem going five man protections. At times, they're
33:14
Speaker 1: a bit slower at the second level, especially you know,
33:17
Speaker 1: David's a little longer in the tooth. Dennis isn't a
33:19
Speaker 1: speedy linebacker. They're nowhere near the speed in violence of
33:22
Speaker 1: al Shayre and Henry to Toe. They don't have the
33:25
Speaker 1: outside corners of Lasseter and Stingley. So I think there
33:28
Speaker 1: were the problems that you solve for the Bills offense
33:30
Speaker 1: against Houston. I do think they were still president against Tampa,
33:33
Speaker 1: but they're magnified further when you're playing a better defense
33:37
Speaker 1: and arguably the best corner tandem in football and arguably
33:40
Speaker 1: the best edge tannement football. Dusty says, Harrison, Harriston and
33:48
Speaker 1: Walker seem like they have a lot of promise. Thankfully,
33:50
Speaker 1: Walker is going to be a stud. I hope Walker.
33:52
Speaker 1: I don't want to be too negative. I don't think
33:54
Speaker 1: Walker is this stud in the making that a lot
33:57
Speaker 1: of people are making him out to be. I think
33:58
Speaker 1: he has a lot more struggles than people care to notice.
34:02
Speaker 1: It's funny when I post things on plays on social
34:06
Speaker 1: and someone will notice the person next to Walker getting
34:08
Speaker 1: blown up and call that person out, but not call
34:11
Speaker 1: out Walker when he's getting blown blown out the gap
34:13
Speaker 1: or turned around or knocked up field. I do think
34:16
Speaker 1: Walker has been good this year. He has to pass
34:18
Speaker 1: my expectations, and I do think he's improving on his
34:21
Speaker 1: anchor and overall run defense. But I don't think he's
34:24
Speaker 1: some game He's been some game record this year. I hope,
34:27
Speaker 1: you know, as he gets into a proper role and
34:28
Speaker 1: there's more around him, he'll continue to improve. But I'm
34:32
Speaker 1: a little lower on him than others are, though I
34:34
Speaker 1: do think he has played well. Oh. I like this
34:39
Speaker 1: from Heather. Heather says this team has a dull blade.
34:43
Speaker 1: That's a really good way to say it. All right,
34:47
Speaker 1: I'm seeing going through. Oh, Jeffersons, how are you cooking
34:51
Speaker 1: the turkey this year? I'm just straight up doing the
34:53
Speaker 1: oven turkey. I am doing my wife has done the
34:55
Speaker 1: turkey in the past. I am doing the turn walk.
34:56
Speaker 1: We've combined. I'm doing the turkey this year. I've done
34:59
Speaker 1: deep frying in the past, not doing that this year.
35:02
Speaker 1: I'm okay with the deep fry. I know some people
35:04
Speaker 1: like swear by it. I'm really just a standard. You know,
35:08
Speaker 1: let's season the hell out of it, rocking the butter
35:11
Speaker 1: and all my herbs and seasoning and all that stuff,
35:14
Speaker 1: getting a good rub in there, taking care of it.
35:16
Speaker 1: But I'm really just a simple like season it, make
35:19
Speaker 1: sure it stays moist. I hate that word. I think
35:22
Speaker 1: cook it regularly, like in the oven. I'm not a
35:23
Speaker 1: crazy like let's deep fry it or flash whatever. I
35:25
Speaker 1: know there's a lot of science to cooking turkeys. I'm
35:28
Speaker 1: a very simple season it properly, get in the oven,
35:31
Speaker 1: let that bird bake and rock from there. Oh this
35:36
Speaker 1: is a good comment here, uh say, I'm becausing you say.
35:39
Speaker 1: Meeting Joe Marino had a good observation earlier, saying beanus
35:42
Speaker 1: focused more on the floor than the ceiling in terms
35:44
Speaker 1: of roster construction to a degree. I think Walker is
35:48
Speaker 1: a ceiling pick. I think Harston's a ceiling pick. I
35:52
Speaker 1: think Greg Russeau was a ceiling pick. I think Coole
35:55
Speaker 1: Bishop was a ceiling pick. Free agents, I think it's
36:01
Speaker 1: more floor. I'd have to think of it, uh all
36:05
Speaker 1: the time of my head, but that's fair. That's interesting comment. Uh,
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Speaker 1: like it's comment and when are you getting a third tree?
36:13
Speaker 1: The Bills haven't won a Super Bowl since you only
36:15
Speaker 1: have two come January. Also, maybe it's not me I
36:18
Speaker 1: need to get a third tree. I like that. I
36:20
Speaker 1: like this comments has hit that like yes, please likes
36:22
Speaker 1: tore the lifeblood of these streams. Please please please and
36:24
Speaker 1: think you hit drop a leg if you have not already. Yes,
36:28
Speaker 1: and so the ends These two comments won from Dusty
36:30
Speaker 1: saying the Bills offense last season was pretty good, but
36:32
Speaker 1: then the comment right after saying they caught up to
36:34
Speaker 1: us because we didn't change. That's exactly it, and that's
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Speaker 1: what we're going to dive into after I get through
36:37
Speaker 1: some more comments here. Question, do you buy the notion
36:42
Speaker 1: circling the fan base right now that being in McDermott
36:44
Speaker 1: are bottom five or ten in the league. I think
36:46
Speaker 1: that's crazy. But is there a light I'm not seeing here? No,
36:49
Speaker 1: I definitely don't think they're a bottom five or ten.
36:51
Speaker 1: I think McDermott and being are death easily top half
36:54
Speaker 1: of the league. And like coach and GM individually and duo,
36:57
Speaker 1: it's just a matter of if they do enough to
36:59
Speaker 1: get you over the time or if they're built to
37:01
Speaker 1: more get you out of a rut than they are
37:04
Speaker 1: get you over the top and get a championship. I
37:08
Speaker 1: do think on the whole, beans moves have been sound
37:10
Speaker 1: and ben solid, especially a free agency, Like, it's not
37:12
Speaker 1: his fault Von Miller towards ACL and that wrecked their
37:15
Speaker 1: plans for that year. It's not his fault. Trey White
37:17
Speaker 1: tore his ACL the year before. It's not their fault
37:23
Speaker 1: that Bosa got banged up this year. Now you could say, well,
37:25
Speaker 1: it is their fault a little bit because they haven't
37:27
Speaker 1: got brought the right guys in at those premium positions
37:29
Speaker 1: to kind of butchers that, YadA YadA. You can play
37:31
Speaker 1: devil's advocate for a lot of it. But no, I
37:33
Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think they're bottom five to ten
37:35
Speaker 1: in the league at all. I just don't think they're
37:38
Speaker 1: top five. I think they're probably around for me like
37:42
Speaker 1: fifteen to twelve, somewhere in that range borderline top ten.
37:46
Speaker 1: If I wanted to really broad brush it, I'd say
37:48
Speaker 1: like fifteen to eight. What else we got? What else
37:55
Speaker 1: we got? What else we got? Okay, oh we got
38:01
Speaker 1: super chat So sorry, really appreciate you being here, Brad
38:07
Speaker 1: at guitar. I think they can pronouncing that correctly if
38:09
Speaker 1: I'm reading everything correctly, everything being lowercases throwing me. But
38:11
Speaker 1: I appreciate you being here. Thank you very much with
38:13
Speaker 1: the super chet and the comment or question I should say,
38:15
Speaker 1: is any of the current long term commitments you think
38:18
Speaker 1: will age poorly based on opportunity cost. The one that
38:25
Speaker 1: comes to the forefront of my mind is Rousseau because
38:28
Speaker 1: while I like him and I think he gets a
38:30
Speaker 1: lot more hate than he deserves, I think they paid
38:33
Speaker 1: him like an edge one, and I don't think he's
38:35
Speaker 1: truly an edge one because of what he is as
38:38
Speaker 1: a pass rusher, and I know some of the metrics
38:40
Speaker 1: show well for him at times, but I just don't
38:42
Speaker 1: think he's an edge one as a pass rusher. So
38:45
Speaker 1: if he doesn't continue to improve in that way, you
38:47
Speaker 1: paid a lot of money for a dude who's just
38:49
Speaker 1: a really good run defender at the edge, and that's
38:51
Speaker 1: a lot of money for that. I think Bernards could
38:56
Speaker 1: look bad. I do think a lot of his struggles
38:59
Speaker 1: this year are because of his injury, but he's never
39:04
Speaker 1: been this big, you know, take on blocks type of dude,
39:07
Speaker 1: complete linebacker he has to succeed in a very in
39:10
Speaker 1: a very specific manner, and that could get worrisome. I
39:14
Speaker 1: think as that contract ages. I think Benford's contract is fine.
39:17
Speaker 1: He's not too expensive at all, and I don't think
39:19
Speaker 1: he's been as bad as people are giving him. Flat
39:21
Speaker 1: for Shakir's contract is fine, but the biggest one for
39:24
Speaker 1: me out of the ones they especially like the ones
39:26
Speaker 1: they committed to recently. For me, it would be Rousseau
39:29
Speaker 1: if he doesn't continue to improve and kind of become
39:32
Speaker 1: more of a true overall edge one. And I think
39:36
Speaker 1: Bernard just based off of how specific the ecosystem has
39:40
Speaker 1: to be for his success. Yes, as Joe says, we
39:45
Speaker 1: need some more creativity and tendency breaking. Absolutely absolutely, Jason says,
39:54
Speaker 1: please tell me that lamp on your right the wife
39:56
Speaker 1: put there. No, I put that lamp there. I like
39:58
Speaker 1: that lamp. This one, yeah, that Oh, I'm so terrible
40:01
Speaker 1: at this. That one. Yeah, I put that there. It
40:04
Speaker 1: used to be on my grandma's I like that lamp. Yeah.
40:08
Speaker 1: I look a good deep right turkey with the side
40:09
Speaker 1: of house fire. That's why I don't do it. I've
40:11
Speaker 1: heard too many horror stories, but I like the deep
40:13
Speaker 1: fried turkey, but it wasn't enough for me to risk
40:15
Speaker 1: burning everything down. Okay, okay, okay, okay. I'm going to
40:23
Speaker 1: dive into some of the topics here. This first one
40:24
Speaker 1: that I want to talk about, and feel free continue
40:26
Speaker 1: to put in comments. I'll get to everything as we
40:28
Speaker 1: can go. This first one that I'm gonna talk about
40:30
Speaker 1: here is the run defense. I I've talked about this
40:34
Speaker 1: before throughout the off season. I've talked about it throughout
40:39
Speaker 1: the like in season last year and how it was
40:41
Speaker 1: a bigger struggle and pain point that people realized. Turnovers
40:46
Speaker 1: in game script glossed over the run defense struggle so
40:50
Speaker 1: much for this defense, even to the point that I
40:52
Speaker 1: remember folks telling me, like, stopping the run doesn't matter,
40:55
Speaker 1: They're fine. Stopping the run matter is tremendously in a
40:58
Speaker 1: vacuum as we're seeing, especially with how the league has
41:02
Speaker 1: started to move in that direction. But as I've said before,
41:06
Speaker 1: how you fit the run determines your coverage on the
41:09
Speaker 1: back end. Simple example, if you have to have eight
41:12
Speaker 1: in the box to stop the run, that means you
41:15
Speaker 1: can only play a single high coverage. That means you
41:17
Speaker 1: already to playing cover three. That means you are playing
41:19
Speaker 1: cover one. It hurts how much you can disguise everything
41:23
Speaker 1: on that back end, right, So how you fit the
41:24
Speaker 1: run determines your coverage on the back end first and foremost.
41:29
Speaker 1: And then with having the safeties that the Bills had,
41:31
Speaker 1: living in a single high world was not ideal to
41:33
Speaker 1: start the year. It's gotten better this year, but still
41:35
Speaker 1: kind of a problem. But turnovers changed so much for
41:40
Speaker 1: the Bills last year, and game script changed so much,
41:43
Speaker 1: and games where teams were able to kind of stay
41:44
Speaker 1: in even from the first game of the year against
41:46
Speaker 1: the Cardinals, the Cardinals just kept running pin and pull
41:49
Speaker 1: and counter and then gash the hell out of the
41:52
Speaker 1: Bills in that opening Week one game last year in
41:54
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, the Bills made some course corrections adjusted
41:56
Speaker 1: obviously got the win in that game, but that continued
41:59
Speaker 1: throughout the rest of the year. Games where teams were
42:01
Speaker 1: able to keep it close, more often than not, they
42:03
Speaker 1: ran the ball successfully against the Bills. Now, I know
42:07
Speaker 1: the idea at that point, and I think there is
42:08
Speaker 1: some credence to this of they invite the run because
42:11
Speaker 1: they value stopping the pass more. From a metrics standpoint
42:14
Speaker 1: or schematic standpoint. I think there was some validity to that,
42:18
Speaker 1: but having to use numbers and having to gap out
42:22
Speaker 1: to stop the run last year was a problem for
42:24
Speaker 1: the Bills, but when they did it at work. The
42:26
Speaker 1: Lions game is a good example, right, they got run
42:29
Speaker 1: on a ton by the Rams. Those back to back
42:31
Speaker 1: weeks are a good good talking point for last year
42:34
Speaker 1: they got run on a bunch by the Rams, started
42:37
Speaker 1: to sell out and use bodies to stop the run,
42:39
Speaker 1: which then got them gouged in the past, and then
42:42
Speaker 1: the next week they sold out with numbers to stop
42:44
Speaker 1: the run again, eight and sometimes nine man boxes to
42:47
Speaker 1: stop the run. They do that against the Lions. Score early,
42:51
Speaker 1: get up and ahead early, which stops the Lions from
42:55
Speaker 1: running the ball. Granted, the Lions passed the ball a
42:57
Speaker 1: ton in that game and almost came back and won,
42:59
Speaker 1: but they when they would gap out. When I say
43:02
Speaker 1: gap out, have a man in the box for every
43:04
Speaker 1: gap that is present, So not just even numbers. If
43:07
Speaker 1: there's seven blockers and you have seven defenders in the box,
43:11
Speaker 1: you have a hat on a half, but you're short
43:12
Speaker 1: of gap. However many blockers there are, there's one more
43:17
Speaker 1: gap than how many blockers there are. So just think,
43:19
Speaker 1: if you have a five man surface, you just have
43:21
Speaker 1: the five offensive lineman, left tackle, left guard, center, right guard,
43:25
Speaker 1: right tackle. You've got the outside shoulder of the left
43:29
Speaker 1: tackle inside him. You just keep going all the way forward.
43:31
Speaker 1: If you are all the way through, if you've got
43:33
Speaker 1: five blockers, you've got six gaps. If you've got six blockers,
43:35
Speaker 1: you've got seven gaps. So when there would be seven blockers,
43:40
Speaker 1: which means you have eight gaps and the Bills would
43:41
Speaker 1: have eight defenders in the box, they were good. This
43:44
Speaker 1: year they've started to struggle with that a bit more.
43:46
Speaker 1: They've been inconsistent with their gap integery. You've got multiple
43:49
Speaker 1: guys in the same gap. You've got guys getting blown
43:51
Speaker 1: out of their gaps, and it's causing issues at the
43:53
Speaker 1: second level. So they haven't been good in their run
43:55
Speaker 1: fits schematically, structurally or individually, and they've struggled. But turnovers
44:01
Speaker 1: and game script mattered a lot for this team last year.
44:03
Speaker 1: They would get run on the ball, would get moved
44:05
Speaker 1: on them and moved up and down the field against
44:07
Speaker 1: the Bills. Then they'd get a turnover or they'd get
44:10
Speaker 1: a negative play. They would get a tackle for minus
44:12
Speaker 1: three or minus four, they'd get a sack, they would
44:15
Speaker 1: create some sort of negative play that either led to
44:18
Speaker 1: a field goal for the offense or created a turnover.
44:21
Speaker 1: They'd get the ball back to their offense and they'd score,
44:23
Speaker 1: and they'd be up fourteen to nothing or fourteen to
44:25
Speaker 1: three or twenty one to six, and before you knew it,
44:29
Speaker 1: the opponent was like, oh, we can't keep running the ball.
44:31
Speaker 1: So game script, turnovers and negative havoc plays were their
44:35
Speaker 1: best friend last year, and that glossed over a lot
44:39
Speaker 1: of the run defense struggles. We're not seeing as many
44:41
Speaker 1: negative plays created by the defense this year. We're not
44:44
Speaker 1: seeing those turnovers and those takeaways, and they're just getting
44:47
Speaker 1: gashed in the run over and over again. And when
44:50
Speaker 1: we talk about how we got here, it starts with
44:54
Speaker 1: the positional archetypes they choose and the philosophy slash identity
44:59
Speaker 1: they have on that side to the ball. Again, the
45:01
Speaker 1: run defense was a problem for the Bills last year,
45:04
Speaker 1: yet they leaned into the exact body types and positional
45:08
Speaker 1: archetypes paired with the same philosophy and identity that wouldn't
45:12
Speaker 1: do anything to fix the run defense. And yes, injuries
45:17
Speaker 1: have mattered right, and the suspensions, Hoyt being suspended and
45:22
Speaker 1: then being hurt, Ogun Joey being suspended, Ed Oliver being out,
45:26
Speaker 1: day Kwon Jones being out, Dwayne Carter I didn't expect
45:29
Speaker 1: much from him, but him going down. He's probably better
45:31
Speaker 1: than the practice squad guys were bringing up, I think,
45:33
Speaker 1: but obviously not a huge difference maker. Maybe enough to
45:36
Speaker 1: not have Jordan Phillips on the field, who I'm not
45:39
Speaker 1: trying to call for anyone's job or head. You can't
45:42
Speaker 1: have Jordan Phillips on the field if there's even a
45:44
Speaker 1: zero point one percent chance of an offense running the ball.
45:46
Speaker 1: You can't have Jordan Phillips on the field like he
45:49
Speaker 1: is just getting destroyed against the run. He had a
45:52
Speaker 1: really nice pass rush rep against Houston where he drove
45:54
Speaker 1: the left guard into Mills's face, but he's just getting
45:57
Speaker 1: people moved a ton like. You can't have him in
45:59
Speaker 1: there to the run. He should not be on an
46:01
Speaker 1: NFL game day roster at this point, but he is
46:04
Speaker 1: for the Bills for whatever God knows reason. But I
46:08
Speaker 1: recognize the injuries have played a role on the interior. TJ.
46:11
Speaker 1: Sanders missing time, Bernard being hurt, Mulano being hurt. I
46:15
Speaker 1: recognize the injuries player role, but the larger conversation point
46:20
Speaker 1: is even if the Bills were one hundred percent healthy,
46:25
Speaker 1: especially in their spine, they were going to struggle against
46:28
Speaker 1: the run. It wasn't going to be a matter of
46:31
Speaker 1: if in twenty twenty five, it was always a matter
46:34
Speaker 1: of how much. And again that's given the body types
46:37
Speaker 1: and skill sets they have inside. You built an entire
46:40
Speaker 1: interior out of guys who struggle against double teams, who
46:44
Speaker 1: struggle against displacement, smaller linebackers who don't excel at getting
46:48
Speaker 1: off blocks. That's something that's killed them this year, especially
46:52
Speaker 1: with Bernard having you know, a knock to his lower
46:54
Speaker 1: body and his mobility being limited. He is a sitting
46:58
Speaker 1: duck at the second level. His strength is not stacking
47:01
Speaker 1: and shedding and meeting offensive lineman you know, shock shed
47:07
Speaker 1: get free. He's all about beating offensive linemen to the spot, processing,
47:11
Speaker 1: reading and then having the mobility and the short area
47:14
Speaker 1: closing ability and trigger to beat them to a spot,
47:17
Speaker 1: get out in front of them, avoid the block. He
47:20
Speaker 1: can't do that because he's playing essentially with one leg.
47:23
Speaker 1: Dudes are getting to him, attaching to him and he's
47:26
Speaker 1: getting wrecked. But that's symptomatic of the guys who are
47:29
Speaker 1: healthy too. Block deconstruction as a whole is an issue
47:33
Speaker 1: for this defense. They are bad at it. When I
47:36
Speaker 1: say block deconstruction, I mean how you take on blocks
47:41
Speaker 1: right the bills. Let linemen get into their chest, they
47:44
Speaker 1: give up, you know, surface area and body type. Like
47:48
Speaker 1: they just get they get attached to and they get maulled.
47:52
Speaker 1: Houston was I mean, Houston's a great watch, but when
47:55
Speaker 1: you juxtapose their defense and their block deconstruction with a
47:58
Speaker 1: team like Houston, it's just that much more magnified. And
48:04
Speaker 1: under a microscope. You're watching Henry Totoe and al Shayir
48:07
Speaker 1: and EJ. Speed and even you know Jalen Reed. They're
48:10
Speaker 1: like third or fourth string safety, let alone the defensive lineman.
48:14
Speaker 1: You're just watching them attack blockers violently. They're using their hands,
48:20
Speaker 1: they are moving, they are they are shocked that it's
48:24
Speaker 1: stack and shed, shock and shed as they're reading the
48:27
Speaker 1: track and they're moving. Their hands are in sync and
48:29
Speaker 1: in unison with their feet. They're attacking blockers. They are
48:33
Speaker 1: bringing violence. It's clinical and violent at the same time.
48:37
Speaker 1: You're not getting that from the Bills really anywhere across
48:41
Speaker 1: the board on the in their spine, as Joey says,
48:44
Speaker 1: Lastater coming in and shooting gaps, God Lassiter, Kamari Lassiter
48:48
Speaker 1: coming in and just blowing up Reggie Gilliam twice on
48:52
Speaker 1: those blast counters is absolute beauty. He weighs one hundred
48:55
Speaker 1: and eighty pounds, Gillium is two forty four and Gilliam's
48:58
Speaker 1: hitting him like he ran into a brick wall and
49:02
Speaker 1: that was last year, just coming in, bringing his shoulder
49:04
Speaker 1: and shutting the door. Right, that's not necessarily a blocked
49:07
Speaker 1: EQ while he's blowing up the block, but it's not
49:08
Speaker 1: really blocked deconstruction like the rest of their guys, even
49:11
Speaker 1: their backup interior dudes again getting their hands evolve, not
49:14
Speaker 1: letting guys get to their chest, get to their body,
49:16
Speaker 1: lean into them, create, lean and push and drive. They're
49:20
Speaker 1: just stacking and shedding and using their hands and being
49:22
Speaker 1: a pain in the butt to block. You don't get
49:25
Speaker 1: that with the Bills. Their block deconstruction as a whole
49:28
Speaker 1: was always going to be an issue for this team,
49:30
Speaker 1: as was their inability to just overall get off blocks
49:34
Speaker 1: and struggle against displacement. For those who don't know what
49:36
Speaker 1: displacement means, I just mean getting blown off the ball,
49:41
Speaker 1: right like getting If you're sitting in this gap and
49:45
Speaker 1: you get knocked over two more gaps, you got displaced.
49:48
Speaker 1: Or if you're sitting at the thirty five and the
49:50
Speaker 1: double team knocks you back to the forty, you got displaced.
49:53
Speaker 1: This place is just an easier word for me to
49:55
Speaker 1: say for getting blown off the ball. The bills get
49:58
Speaker 1: blown off the ball, a bunch left right backwards. It happens.
50:01
Speaker 1: It's a problem, and that was always going to be
50:04
Speaker 1: an issue this year because of who they have on
50:06
Speaker 1: the interior. Larry Ogen Jobi is not some anchor against
50:10
Speaker 1: the run. Ed Oliver actually is pretty decent at it now,
50:12
Speaker 1: especially considering his size, but that wears on him a lot.
50:16
Speaker 1: Daikwon Jones has miles on the tires, and even as
50:19
Speaker 1: we've seen Ed goes out, Daiquon starts playing three tech
50:23
Speaker 1: and does pretty sweet at it. You know why because
50:25
Speaker 1: even Daikwon Jones, who's there starting one tech or was
50:28
Speaker 1: supposed to be their starting one tech, he's still more
50:30
Speaker 1: of a three tech player. So he's more of a
50:33
Speaker 1: three tech and he's still kind of a good anchor
50:36
Speaker 1: and he reads blocking skins. But he's a little older,
50:38
Speaker 1: he's got miles on the tires, he's got injury concerns.
50:41
Speaker 1: He gets hurt. Larry Ogen Joby has never been an
50:43
Speaker 1: anchorer or a guy who can stand up against a
50:45
Speaker 1: double team. TJ. Sanders was not that guy. Dion Walker
50:48
Speaker 1: is not that guy, although he's arguably been the best
50:52
Speaker 1: at it out of everybody in the interior this year,
50:54
Speaker 1: which is crazy to say their run defense is always
50:57
Speaker 1: going to be an issue. But then I keep going
51:01
Speaker 1: back to the draft rumor of Tileek Williams, defensive tackle
51:06
Speaker 1: from Ohio State who has gone to the Lions. One
51:08
Speaker 1: tech plugger, athletic. I think he can play a little
51:11
Speaker 1: bit on third down and give you some juice to
51:13
Speaker 1: knock some dudes back. But he is more of a
51:15
Speaker 1: run stopper than he is anything. And he says that
51:19
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills told him if he was there in
51:21
Speaker 1: round one, they were going to take him. He gets
51:24
Speaker 1: taken one pick before by the Detroit Lions. The Bills
51:27
Speaker 1: end up taking Max Harston, but it's so funny that
51:30
Speaker 1: they were going to take Tydleek Williams. In a thought
51:33
Speaker 1: where you're like, okay, they do want more of that
51:35
Speaker 1: one tech. Okay, So we're sitting there on day two,
51:38
Speaker 1: maybe they go Alfred Collins. Maybe they're looking at a
51:41
Speaker 1: bigger body, you know. On day three, maybe we're getting
51:43
Speaker 1: a one tech and instead they go the exact opposite
51:46
Speaker 1: direction and they get TJ. Sanders and Dion Walker. And
51:50
Speaker 1: I wanted to read some stuff that Brandon Bean said
51:53
Speaker 1: after night two, after rounds two and three of the draft,
51:56
Speaker 1: when he was asked about TJ. Sanders. So after being took,
52:00
Speaker 1: he was asked about, you know, kind of just taking
52:03
Speaker 1: Sanders and what he thought of him as a player,
52:04
Speaker 1: and he said, you know, quote and not that these
52:07
Speaker 1: are all quotes from him, I just have him chopped up.
52:09
Speaker 1: He mentioned inside rush, mentioned that he can play one tech,
52:14
Speaker 1: but it's primarily a three tech. He liked the idea
52:17
Speaker 1: of adding another inside rusher to pair with Ed Oliver
52:21
Speaker 1: on clear passing downs, and we could still play him
52:24
Speaker 1: at one tech if we wanted to. That was always questionable,
52:28
Speaker 1: especially because he played it like two hundred ninety pounds
52:30
Speaker 1: in college. You don't want that as a one tech.
52:33
Speaker 1: But the idea that they saw him as that isn't
52:36
Speaker 1: wrong for their defense, Like they their one techs are smaller,
52:41
Speaker 1: but that's the type of interior presence and interior defensive line.
52:44
Speaker 1: They were building a world where TJ. Sanders can be
52:48
Speaker 1: considered a guy who can play one tech for US,
52:50
Speaker 1: And if you watch TJ Sanders this year, he's getting
52:54
Speaker 1: displaced like crazy. So the idea that he could play
52:58
Speaker 1: one given his college tape and his weight and his
53:01
Speaker 1: skill set and his trades crazy crazy, Like to me,
53:05
Speaker 1: I didn't think that made sense at the time. I
53:06
Speaker 1: thought it was more coach speak or gamesmanship than anything,
53:10
Speaker 1: but it looks like it wasn't. Then. This is a
53:13
Speaker 1: very interesting quote Bean. Right after that, he was asked
53:16
Speaker 1: flat out about the run defense hurting from twenty twenty
53:19
Speaker 1: four and about adding another one tech to help with that,
53:22
Speaker 1: and how TJ. Sanders doesn't really sound like that type
53:25
Speaker 1: of guy, and Bean's exact quote, as I'm about to read,
53:30
Speaker 1: he says, quote again, best football player, it's harder to
53:35
Speaker 1: find inside rush than a two down nose. Those are
53:38
Speaker 1: easier to find. Those guys. You can go in free
53:41
Speaker 1: agency now and find those guys with inside rush. If
53:45
Speaker 1: you go down the pecking order of what dtackles make
53:49
Speaker 1: those guys up top they know how to rush. Okay,
53:54
Speaker 1: it's all about inside rush for Bean, that's his philosophy,
53:57
Speaker 1: and I think that's McDermott's philosophy as well. And my
54:00
Speaker 1: issue with that at the time and now is that
54:04
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily disagree with that notion. I don't think
54:06
Speaker 1: the idea of leaning into inside rush on the interior
54:11
Speaker 1: is a horrible philosophy. You can still win with that.
54:15
Speaker 1: My issue is, and as Joe says, oh really, then
54:19
Speaker 1: where are two down run stuffers? Brandon, That ties into
54:22
Speaker 1: my thought just because you think that like inside rush
54:25
Speaker 1: is your way, that doesn't mean that all your guys
54:28
Speaker 1: on the interior have to be all inside rush guys.
54:32
Speaker 1: You don't have to go only that way, to only
54:36
Speaker 1: that end of the spectrum to swing the pendulum all
54:38
Speaker 1: the way to the left. You don't have to do that.
54:40
Speaker 1: And to Joe's point, and like I have in my notes,
54:43
Speaker 1: if two down noses are so easy to find in
54:47
Speaker 1: free agency and you didn't get one, that to me
54:53
Speaker 1: would mean that you didn't care to add one, because
54:56
Speaker 1: for them, they don't value that skill set because it's
54:59
Speaker 1: inside rush over everything. If it's so easy to get
55:03
Speaker 1: a two down nose and you can just go find
55:05
Speaker 1: those guys there in free agency, right, then why don't
55:09
Speaker 1: you have one? Well, if it's easy, then that means
55:12
Speaker 1: you probably didn't want it. If something was easier, something
55:15
Speaker 1: was free, and you didn't grab it, you probably didn't
55:17
Speaker 1: want it. And on top of that, again, you build
55:21
Speaker 1: your interior purely as inside rush to win like that,
55:25
Speaker 1: like I talked about in twenty twenty four, you need
55:27
Speaker 1: a game script to help you out, or you need
55:30
Speaker 1: run fits to be immaculate. You need them to be
55:33
Speaker 1: clinical and time well and proper leverage and attacking blocks
55:37
Speaker 1: and shedding blocks. Or you need for your interior defensive
55:41
Speaker 1: line to be so good as rushers and penetrators that
55:43
Speaker 1: it balances out the pure run defense displacement mitigation piece
55:47
Speaker 1: that you don't have a good baseball analogy. And I
55:51
Speaker 1: use this a lot, Joe, you're gonna know this one,
55:52
Speaker 1: but I flipped it because I think it makes more sense.
55:55
Speaker 1: If you're not gonna have any power hitters in your lineup,
55:58
Speaker 1: so you're not gonna have any slugging percent, You're not
56:00
Speaker 1: gonna have any home run pop dudes, and you're only
56:03
Speaker 1: gonna go for guys who hit for average. Your lineup
56:06
Speaker 1: better be full of dudes that are hitting three hundred
56:08
Speaker 1: and above, and they better steal some bases. And the
56:11
Speaker 1: Bill's interior defensive line was never going to be that.
56:14
Speaker 1: If you're only going to build with inside rush, if
56:18
Speaker 1: you're only thinking penetration and rush and penetration and rush
56:22
Speaker 1: on the interior, those dudes all better be horses. They
56:25
Speaker 1: all better be guys that are like, you know what,
56:28
Speaker 1: everybody on the interior is gonna have like five plus sacks,
56:31
Speaker 1: and we're gonna have a couple guys that are like
56:32
Speaker 1: double digit sack guys. If you're gonna build that way,
56:36
Speaker 1: they all have to be dudes on the interior like that,
56:39
Speaker 1: because you are siloing yourself. So if you're only gonna
56:44
Speaker 1: do one thing, it's like any anybody who plays a
56:47
Speaker 1: video game too. If you're building your character, like if
56:49
Speaker 1: you're not putting on armor or worrying about defense, okay, well,
56:53
Speaker 1: then like your attack and your offense better be immaculate.
56:56
Speaker 1: You want to be a glass cannon, then you better
56:58
Speaker 1: be the best of glass cannons. If you're only going
57:02
Speaker 1: to focus on this one thing, you better be a
57:04
Speaker 1: ten out of ten out of that thing, and they
57:06
Speaker 1: weren't going to be this year when everybody was healthy,
57:10
Speaker 1: when everything was good. And again I know injuries have
57:13
Speaker 1: screwed them over, but what I'm talking about, and that's funny,
57:16
Speaker 1: Joe I cannot break down in a water polo, But
57:18
Speaker 1: that's very funny. Even if everyone was healthy, even if
57:23
Speaker 1: everything worked out for them on the interier and nobody
57:26
Speaker 1: missed time or just should I shouldn't say miss time
57:29
Speaker 1: because part of it is tied to that if everybody
57:32
Speaker 1: was as what they wanted them or hoped they would be.
57:35
Speaker 1: Ed Oliver at the top, he has injury concerns, but
57:38
Speaker 1: even if you remove that, when healthy, he's a very
57:40
Speaker 1: good player, but he struggles with inconsistency. Ed Oliver at
57:44
Speaker 1: his best has been a game wrecker and then kind
57:47
Speaker 1: of goes absent for three games, two games, four games.
57:53
Speaker 1: Then he might have two where he's just a monster,
57:56
Speaker 1: and then he goes absent for one or he goes
57:57
Speaker 1: absent for two. Like that's the type of player he is.
58:00
Speaker 1: He's very good, but he's not some monster on the inside.
58:03
Speaker 1: Daikwon Jones Miles on the tires. Injury concerns there potentially
58:07
Speaker 1: because of the age and because he's been banged up
58:09
Speaker 1: the past couple of years. But even if he was healthy,
58:12
Speaker 1: he's not the monster that he was in previous years.
58:15
Speaker 1: Larry Ogunjobi is very much he is what he is.
58:18
Speaker 1: Not a run stuffer. He's a penetrator, struggles against double teams.
58:24
Speaker 1: He's fine. I think he's fine. It's like a rotational three,
58:27
Speaker 1: more of like a four. To me. He is what
58:29
Speaker 1: he is. So your top three of known quantities was
58:33
Speaker 1: ed Oliver, Daikwon Jones, and Larry Ogunjoby, and then after
58:35
Speaker 1: that it's two rookies and a second year Dwayne Carter.
58:39
Speaker 1: That's what you were banking on. And Dwayne Carter was
58:42
Speaker 1: borderline cuttable last year unfortunately, and TJ. Sanders and Dion Walker.
58:47
Speaker 1: The odds of them coming in and just being dudes
58:50
Speaker 1: right off rip were low because it's hard to know
58:53
Speaker 1: that for any rookie. And that's not just like yeah,
58:56
Speaker 1: but their skill set are they're fit. That was really
58:59
Speaker 1: never gonna have. Like you came into the year being
59:01
Speaker 1: like we're all about inside rush, We're all about penetration
59:05
Speaker 1: and havoc, and then you look at who's probably gonna
59:07
Speaker 1: be there on their line. It just didn't make sense.
59:11
Speaker 1: That is an interior defensive line that is built to
59:13
Speaker 1: get pushed around against the run and not good enough
59:16
Speaker 1: to dominate with penetration and rush to make up for it.
59:20
Speaker 1: And also I wanted to talk about something in that
59:22
Speaker 1: quote that being said, he said at the end of
59:24
Speaker 1: that his comment on the defensive tackle market. He said,
59:28
Speaker 1: how guys at the top know how to rush, right
59:32
Speaker 1: at the top of the defensive tackle market. And that's true,
59:35
Speaker 1: But his comment is a bit disingenuous because the majority
59:38
Speaker 1: of those dudes at the top of the defensive tackle market, yes,
59:42
Speaker 1: they know how to rush, but they're also good run
59:46
Speaker 1: defenders and or just monsters or complete defensive tackles in general.
59:50
Speaker 1: Here's the top twelve defensive tackles ranked by average annual
59:55
Speaker 1: value right now, and if you want to rank them
59:58
Speaker 1: by total value, it's similar. Guys right at the top
1:00:00
Speaker 1: is Chris Jones, who is more penetrator and pass rusher
1:00:03
Speaker 1: than anything. Is not a good run defender. I'll give
1:00:05
Speaker 1: you that right. Then you've got Milton Williams second for
1:00:08
Speaker 1: the New England Patriots, penetrator inside rush also plays the
1:00:13
Speaker 1: run well, did it in Philly, does it for New England?
1:00:15
Speaker 1: And then after him, here's all the rest of the
1:00:18
Speaker 1: dudes on that list. Even if Jones and Milt Williams
1:00:20
Speaker 1: were pure rush and didn't offer anything from a run
1:00:23
Speaker 1: defense standpoint, which Jones really doesn't anymore, Milt Williams does.
1:00:27
Speaker 1: Here's all the guys after them, Zach Allen, Non de
1:00:30
Speaker 1: matabk Alim McNeil, Quinn Williams, Derek Brown, Jeffrey Simmons, Deforence Buckner,
1:00:37
Speaker 1: Deron Payne, Dexter Lawrence, Leonard Williams. That is a ton
1:00:42
Speaker 1: of run defense capability mixed with inside rush capability. And
1:00:46
Speaker 1: if we continue to go down the rest of the
1:00:48
Speaker 1: line in the top fifteen, you get similar thoughts as well.
1:00:51
Speaker 1: So yes, the dudes at the top of the defensive
1:00:53
Speaker 1: tackle market can definitely rush the passer, they're also just
1:00:56
Speaker 1: complete defensive tackles that are also good against the run.
1:01:01
Speaker 1: Especially again, like Jones is the biggest outlier in that
1:01:04
Speaker 1: top twelve because especially at his age too right, he's
1:01:07
Speaker 1: more just penetrate rush QB. But in Milton Williams similar
1:01:12
Speaker 1: in that mold, but definitely plays the run and is
1:01:14
Speaker 1: good against the run. But everybody after that plays the
1:01:17
Speaker 1: run really, really, really good. It's not even a question.
1:01:20
Speaker 1: Zach Allen, Nomdi Madabike, Alem McNeil, Quinn, Williams, Derek Brown,
1:01:23
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Simmons, DeForest Buckner, Deron Payne, Dexter Lawrence, Leonard Williams. Yes,
1:01:28
Speaker 1: there's some different dials and some different sliders for each guy. Right,
1:01:31
Speaker 1: some of those guys might be more run defense than
1:01:33
Speaker 1: they are past rus. Some of those guys might be
1:01:34
Speaker 1: more pass rush than they are run defense. But all
1:01:37
Speaker 1: of those guys are essentially complete defensive tackles. So him saying, yeah,
1:01:43
Speaker 1: you know, if you look at the top of the
1:01:45
Speaker 1: defensive tackle market, those guys at the top, you know,
1:01:48
Speaker 1: quote know how to rush, Yeah, they do. They also
1:01:51
Speaker 1: know how to play the run. They also know how
1:01:57
Speaker 1: to play the run, just like they know how to
1:01:59
Speaker 1: play the rush. Who's at the top of the market
1:02:01
Speaker 1: are just overall complete defensive tackles. They are very good overall.
1:02:07
Speaker 1: They are not siloed in their skill set. Now, are
1:02:10
Speaker 1: any of those guys pure nose tackles and just pure
1:02:14
Speaker 1: run stuffers? No, right, no, because you do need to
1:02:18
Speaker 1: rush the passer from the inside if you want to
1:02:20
Speaker 1: be paid like that. But if they're not deficient as
1:02:23
Speaker 1: run defenders like the bills interior defensive line is, So
1:02:29
Speaker 1: I find that to be a bit of a problem.
1:02:31
Speaker 1: And again tying that into that whole quote, we just
1:02:34
Speaker 1: talked about the top of the market and the inside
1:02:36
Speaker 1: rush and those guys know how to rush, YadA YadA.
1:02:38
Speaker 1: But again going into you know, it's harder to find
1:02:41
Speaker 1: inside rush than a two down nose. Those are easier
1:02:44
Speaker 1: to find those guys. You can go in free agency
1:02:46
Speaker 1: now and find those guys you didn't. You could have
1:02:48
Speaker 1: had Roy Lopez who went to the lines, you chose
1:02:51
Speaker 1: not to. So if it's easy to find those guys
1:02:55
Speaker 1: and they if you had an issue with run defense,
1:02:59
Speaker 1: and it's an issue that if you had an issue
1:03:02
Speaker 1: with run defense, and it's easy to find the guys
1:03:05
Speaker 1: who can help you with run defense, and you choose
1:03:08
Speaker 1: not to bring those guys in, that to me signals
1:03:11
Speaker 1: you don't care about run defense. And then if you
1:03:15
Speaker 1: add in the other quotes and the guys that they
1:03:17
Speaker 1: brought in, it all signals to they didn't think they
1:03:20
Speaker 1: needed to stop the run. Their biggest issue as a
1:03:23
Speaker 1: defense last year, their biggest and most glaring issue as
1:03:26
Speaker 1: a defense. They chose not to address it. They lean
1:03:30
Speaker 1: harder to go to that joke that was mentioned earlier
1:03:33
Speaker 1: every goody who said it though, it's Michael Scott dating
1:03:36
Speaker 1: Pam's mom in the office when she's like, Michael, I
1:03:38
Speaker 1: forbid you from dating my mom, and he's like, you
1:03:39
Speaker 1: know what, I'm just going to date her harder. That's
1:03:41
Speaker 1: what the Bills defense did. You know. You know, hey
1:03:44
Speaker 1: Brandon and Shawn, you guys need to kind of get
1:03:47
Speaker 1: after some run defense a little bit and get away
1:03:49
Speaker 1: from some three texts. You know what, Now, I'm just
1:03:51
Speaker 1: gonna lean into three techs harder. They built their entire
1:03:54
Speaker 1: in tier out of that. The Daiquon Jones play this
1:03:58
Speaker 1: year is so funny because he would again was they're
1:04:00
Speaker 1: starting one tech and he's been good, went healthy and
1:04:03
Speaker 1: what he's been largely for this team, Daiquon Jones has
1:04:05
Speaker 1: been good. But him as they're starting one tech, he
1:04:08
Speaker 1: is still more of a three tech and his skill
1:04:11
Speaker 1: set and his size. That's the kind of that's the
1:04:17
Speaker 1: kind of interior they built. And Dion Walker, huge mountain
1:04:19
Speaker 1: of a man, has improved as the ear has gone
1:04:22
Speaker 1: on in his anchor and in displacement mitigation and how
1:04:26
Speaker 1: he handles doubles. But even him as a monster, he's
1:04:28
Speaker 1: still a penetrator. So that's how they choose. They chose
1:04:32
Speaker 1: to build their interior, and again that's you can choose
1:04:35
Speaker 1: to glean that way. But the fact that they lean
1:04:38
Speaker 1: so hard and didn't care to do anything, Like you're
1:04:43
Speaker 1: not not even one bar of armor, You're not going
1:04:45
Speaker 1: with any armor at all, So you just get hit
1:04:48
Speaker 1: once with any type of weapon, you're done like that.
1:04:51
Speaker 1: You're just going pure glass cannon. Like that's extreme. And again,
1:04:55
Speaker 1: if you're gonna go pure glass cannon type of build,
1:04:59
Speaker 1: you better have weapons that you can just one hit
1:05:02
Speaker 1: or quitter type stuff when you pop somebody. If you're
1:05:05
Speaker 1: a boxer and you got a glass jaw and you
1:05:08
Speaker 1: can't take a punch, you better have the deadliest uppercut
1:05:12
Speaker 1: haymaker jabs something. And you also better be the quickest
1:05:15
Speaker 1: dude out there so you can duck and move, dive, dip, duck,
1:05:18
Speaker 1: dive and dodge and make sure you don't get popped.
1:05:21
Speaker 1: And they don't have that. They have a glass jaw
1:05:24
Speaker 1: and are capable of getting knocked out at any moment.
1:05:26
Speaker 1: And they also don't have a deadly haymaker or deadly uppercut,
1:05:30
Speaker 1: and they're not the quickest, and they don't have great
1:05:32
Speaker 1: head movement and feet to avoid getting punched. Oh that's
1:05:36
Speaker 1: a good analogy. I thought of that in the moment too.
1:05:37
Speaker 1: I should have wrote that down earlier. That's what they are.
1:05:40
Speaker 1: Same thing with the baseball one. And then to Joey's
1:05:44
Speaker 1: point is he says, and small linebackers. And then on
1:05:46
Speaker 1: top of that again, yeah, you've got small linebackers who
1:05:49
Speaker 1: don't excel at block deconstruction. You don't have all pro
1:05:53
Speaker 1: dudes at the second level or big thumpers that are like,
1:05:55
Speaker 1: oh who cares if an interir offensive lineman gets through,
1:06:00
Speaker 1: Our linebackers will take care of it. They can't. Even
1:06:02
Speaker 1: when Terrell Bernard is healthy, you don't want him take
1:06:05
Speaker 1: it on blocks because he's got short arms and he's small.
1:06:08
Speaker 1: Same thing with Matt Milano. And then their technique in
1:06:12
Speaker 1: block deconstruction is bad. So you've got guys who just
1:06:15
Speaker 1: don't fit the run defense in any way. Like you
1:06:21
Speaker 1: got guys in the interior on the defensive line who
1:06:23
Speaker 1: just get pushed around and moved, and you've got guys
1:06:25
Speaker 1: in the second level who can't get off blocks, and
1:06:27
Speaker 1: then you've got guys in the interior and the defensive
1:06:29
Speaker 1: line in general who also just can't get off blocks. Like,
1:06:35
Speaker 1: what do you do? And Bill's our elector, says, who
1:06:37
Speaker 1: can talk to Sean about the roster construction and get
1:06:39
Speaker 1: through to him. I don't think it's just about Sean McDermott.
1:06:42
Speaker 1: I think it's about being I think they are in
1:06:44
Speaker 1: lockstep and how they want to build this team. Until
1:06:47
Speaker 1: I hear otherwise or see otherwise. Maybe maybe McDermott wants
1:06:51
Speaker 1: a one tech, maybe Bean wants a one tech. Maybe
1:06:54
Speaker 1: it's one of them or neither. I don't know. I
1:06:56
Speaker 1: don't know what happens behind closed doors, but it just
1:06:59
Speaker 1: seems like they're lockstep and how to build this roster defensively,
1:07:03
Speaker 1: and it's causing problems for them. It caused problems for
1:07:06
Speaker 1: them last year, it's causing problems now. And the last
1:07:08
Speaker 1: point I'll say on this, I think it's hilarious. They
1:07:11
Speaker 1: revamped their whole offense, right condense formations, running the football,
1:07:16
Speaker 1: bigger body types at wide receiver twelve personnel, thirteen personnel,
1:07:20
Speaker 1: twenty one, twenty two. It's all built because they saw
1:07:25
Speaker 1: the trends in the NFL and said, you know what,
1:07:28
Speaker 1: we got to start to mash, We got to start
1:07:30
Speaker 1: to run the ball a little bit, right. They built
1:07:33
Speaker 1: their offense to murder defenses like theirs. So they saw
1:07:39
Speaker 1: the trends offensively in the league and said, you know what,
1:07:42
Speaker 1: we have to build our offense to be like that.
1:07:45
Speaker 1: And then they looked at their defense and said, now
1:07:47
Speaker 1: we'll stay the same. What you built your offense, knowing
1:07:52
Speaker 1: how the league is trending, you pivoted completely in one offseason,
1:07:59
Speaker 1: very impressively, Like they deserve kudos for how they pivoted
1:08:02
Speaker 1: last year and what they did. But how can you
1:08:04
Speaker 1: build your offense in that way and then not try
1:08:08
Speaker 1: to be the antithesis of that or build to stop
1:08:11
Speaker 1: that defensively? If you are building an offense to run
1:08:14
Speaker 1: the ball and mash teams, because those are the trends
1:08:18
Speaker 1: in the league, how are you not building your defense
1:08:20
Speaker 1: to stop the run in any way? And because that's
1:08:23
Speaker 1: what it is. It's not just that they're not good
1:08:25
Speaker 1: against the run, they're horrible. They're at a historic level
1:08:30
Speaker 1: for yards after contact because they're a poor tackling team,
1:08:33
Speaker 1: but also because they can't get off blocks, because they're
1:08:36
Speaker 1: getting displaced, because they can only get an arm or
1:08:40
Speaker 1: a shoulder on guys at times, because they can't get
1:08:43
Speaker 1: their full body because they can't get into the gap.
1:08:45
Speaker 1: And then they're also unsound in their technique and how
1:08:47
Speaker 1: they're fitting the run and whether they're doing seven man
1:08:49
Speaker 1: spacing or eight, and the coverage is on the back end,
1:08:52
Speaker 1: and it's all a mess because you just avoided run defense.
1:08:56
Speaker 1: And that's what's so frustrating with all of it is
1:08:59
Speaker 1: they they don't need to be amazing. You don't need
1:09:08
Speaker 1: to be top five run defense, top ten. If they
1:09:11
Speaker 1: could be, that would be great. They just need to
1:09:14
Speaker 1: not be thirty second to twenty eight in like everything,
1:09:17
Speaker 1: which is what they are right now, and they were.
1:09:21
Speaker 1: Their metrics were decent last year, especially from like an
1:09:24
Speaker 1: EPA standpoint, because again, the negative plays balanced it out.
1:09:27
Speaker 1: The takeaways, you know, the stuffs, the tackles for loss,
1:09:30
Speaker 1: all that stuff kind of balanced it out. They were
1:09:33
Speaker 1: living on the extremes. It was lived by the sword,
1:09:34
Speaker 1: die by the store. It was either get gashed and
1:09:37
Speaker 1: give up ten or fifteen, or get a takeaway, get
1:09:40
Speaker 1: it and get a stop for like minus three, minus four,
1:09:42
Speaker 1: minus five. It wasn't you know, you had a lot
1:09:45
Speaker 1: of ebbs and a lot of flows. It was. It
1:09:47
Speaker 1: was a roller coaster. It was that this year, you're
1:09:51
Speaker 1: not getting the balance and the roller coaster. It's all
1:09:55
Speaker 1: just down. But that, again is a result of how
1:09:58
Speaker 1: they built this team, because they chose to address the
1:10:00
Speaker 1: run defense in any way, shape or form. And I
1:10:03
Speaker 1: find that frustrating as hell, because again I'm not saying
1:10:07
Speaker 1: I saw this happened and look at me. Talked about
1:10:11
Speaker 1: it all off season. I said why I wanted Tayleek
1:10:14
Speaker 1: Williams more than I wanted anybody else at defensive tackle.
1:10:17
Speaker 1: I talked about why I wanted Roy Lopez, why they
1:10:20
Speaker 1: needed to change things on the interior and who they
1:10:23
Speaker 1: brought in and what they did and the rotational bodies
1:10:25
Speaker 1: and all that. And instead they just went pure glass cannon,
1:10:28
Speaker 1: pure penetration, pure inside rush, and they neglected the run
1:10:32
Speaker 1: defense piece completely and it's biting them severely. And again
1:10:37
Speaker 1: I understand the notion. I'm not saying the philosophy or
1:10:40
Speaker 1: that roster construction build is completely wrong. I disagree with it,
1:10:44
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't build my team that way if it's me.
1:10:47
Speaker 1: But you can still win like that, if you go
1:10:49
Speaker 1: pure inside rush and pure penetration. You can still win
1:10:52
Speaker 1: that way. But all your dudes gotta be dudes. All
1:10:55
Speaker 1: your dudes got to be hitters. If you're gonna have
1:10:58
Speaker 1: no power hitters in the lineup, you better have six
1:11:01
Speaker 1: seven dudes who all hit over three hundred. And they don't,
1:11:06
Speaker 1: and they weren't going to. You weren't going to have
1:11:08
Speaker 1: that type of interior defensive line this year. That is
1:11:10
Speaker 1: not what was going to happen. And you could say, oh,
1:11:12
Speaker 1: maybe they're doing it for this year in the future. Cool, maybe,
1:11:16
Speaker 1: but you still got to balance it together somehow, and
1:11:19
Speaker 1: there's no balance and it's really frustrating. And then I
1:11:23
Speaker 1: want to tie that in with defensive philosophy. Talked about
1:11:29
Speaker 1: a bit. I have this label here positional archetypes and
1:11:31
Speaker 1: philosophy slash identity. We talked a bit about the archetypes
1:11:35
Speaker 1: right on the interior. They just want inside rush, they
1:11:38
Speaker 1: want penetration. I read you that quote, and even if
1:11:40
Speaker 1: I didn't read you those quotes, you can look at
1:11:42
Speaker 1: how they build their interior and know everybody at this point,
1:11:45
Speaker 1: people who don't even really know schematics about football know
1:11:49
Speaker 1: like a three tech and what a one tech is
1:11:51
Speaker 1: because it's such an issue for the Bills right now.
1:11:53
Speaker 1: So we know they just want penetrators. They want smaller
1:11:56
Speaker 1: inside rush type of dudes. They want smaller guys at
1:11:58
Speaker 1: the second level. Fine, and even that, like, if you're
1:12:00
Speaker 1: gonna have smaller dudes at the second level, those dudes
1:12:02
Speaker 1: better be violent. You need. I use this term a
1:12:06
Speaker 1: lot because I think it's super applicable. Like certain teams
1:12:10
Speaker 1: just have veloci raptors with how they play. The Texans
1:12:12
Speaker 1: have a defense filled with them. But it's not just
1:12:14
Speaker 1: like all Anderson and Hunter, like Stingley or Lasser. It's
1:12:17
Speaker 1: Al Shaier, it's Henry Toto. If you're gonna be smaller linebackers,
1:12:22
Speaker 1: your dudes better be violent. They better be quick, mentally quick,
1:12:26
Speaker 1: physically violent, and strong on their technique because they are undersized.
1:12:31
Speaker 1: And if you have undersized linebackers in today's NFL, we're
1:12:33
Speaker 1: running the football matters and heavy personnel that is coming
1:12:36
Speaker 1: back if they can't get off blocks and because they're
1:12:39
Speaker 1: small and their body types hurt you're done. They don't
1:12:43
Speaker 1: have that. So again, position archetypes and interior defensive line
1:12:47
Speaker 1: positional archetypes at linebacker, position archetypes at edge. They want
1:12:53
Speaker 1: compression guys, They want power guys. They don't look for athletes.
1:12:55
Speaker 1: They don't look for bendy turn the corner type dudes.
1:12:58
Speaker 1: They look for us. I want to tie that in
1:13:05
Speaker 1: with philosophy because the guys that they bring in are
1:13:09
Speaker 1: tied to what they want to be from an identity
1:13:12
Speaker 1: at philosophical standpoint. On the defensive side of the ball, schematically,
1:13:17
Speaker 1: they want to be a one gap penetrating type of
1:13:21
Speaker 1: defense where the front four is the engine of the team,
1:13:25
Speaker 1: where the front four provides a lot of the pass rush,
1:13:29
Speaker 1: pop and juice and does a lot against the run. Honestly,
1:13:32
Speaker 1: like all jokes aside, they want their defense to be
1:13:35
Speaker 1: what the Texans defense is. Right now, it's got to
1:13:37
Speaker 1: kill Sean McDermott to see them lose to the Texans
1:13:39
Speaker 1: the way they did. How the Texans are built, the
1:13:42
Speaker 1: dudes they have up front, Like again, it's Anderson and
1:13:45
Speaker 1: Hunter that stir the drink. Tim Settle, as everyone's joked about,
1:13:48
Speaker 1: has been really good for them, but you have Sheldon
1:13:50
Speaker 1: Rankins on the interior, number seventy two, whose name I
1:13:53
Speaker 1: can never pronounce. He's like, he's been a good depth
1:13:56
Speaker 1: guy for them, and he's been impactful on the interior.
1:13:59
Speaker 1: You've got to four where you can just let the
1:14:01
Speaker 1: front four hunt. They can cause problems against the run,
1:14:04
Speaker 1: and then when you get into passing down in distances,
1:14:06
Speaker 1: they eat and they're a problem. Like that's what the
1:14:09
Speaker 1: Bills want. They always want to have seven in coverage,
1:14:12
Speaker 1: and they don't want to have to do a lot
1:14:14
Speaker 1: of like simulated pressures or creepers. They might show guys
1:14:17
Speaker 1: in the a gap and mug and then drop out.
1:14:19
Speaker 1: They don't want to blitz. They don't want to do
1:14:21
Speaker 1: a lot of crazy stuff or creative schematic stuff. They
1:14:25
Speaker 1: just want to Hey, we're gonna play a bunch of coverages.
1:14:27
Speaker 1: We're gonna play some Cover three. We're gonna play some quarters.
1:14:32
Speaker 1: We're gonna play some Cover six. We're gonna play some
1:14:34
Speaker 1: Cover two. We're gonna play some Tampa two. We'll mix
1:14:36
Speaker 1: in some man Okay, but we're we're dropping seven. We
1:14:40
Speaker 1: want to play coverage. We just want to rush for
1:14:43
Speaker 1: That's not a horrible identity. In and of itself. I
1:14:48
Speaker 1: say this all the time, and I say this to
1:14:49
Speaker 1: kind kind of set this up. I've said on the
1:14:51
Speaker 1: show before me individually, that's not the type of defense
1:14:54
Speaker 1: I gravitate towards. I am a you know, they're a
1:14:57
Speaker 1: four down over front, even front, drop seven guys in
1:15:02
Speaker 1: the coverage. I am. Give me a three to four
1:15:06
Speaker 1: give me. You know, if anybody I say this like
1:15:09
Speaker 1: it's so long ago, like the Dick Lebau Steelers or
1:15:12
Speaker 1: the Rex Ryan Ravens, give me. I am a three
1:15:15
Speaker 1: to four zone, blitz, fire zone type of dude. Give
1:15:18
Speaker 1: me match coverages. On the back end, I want hybrid
1:15:21
Speaker 1: body types so I can drop some dudes into coverage.
1:15:24
Speaker 1: You don't know who's rushing from where and what's happening,
1:15:26
Speaker 1: and I want violence and triggers everywhere. That's not what
1:15:32
Speaker 1: anybody has to do. There is not any one right
1:15:35
Speaker 1: way to build a defense, build an offense, or build
1:15:38
Speaker 1: a winning football team. That's why there's a multitude of trees,
1:15:42
Speaker 1: coaching trees, schematic trees, philosophies, identities. That's why there's not
1:15:46
Speaker 1: any one right answer. But I say that to say,
1:15:49
Speaker 1: like just inherently Sean mcdermotts scheme with who he is
1:15:52
Speaker 1: now is not what I gravitate towards. Ironically, I gravitate
1:15:56
Speaker 1: more towards Sean McDermott's mentor in Philly, Jim Johnson. If
1:16:01
Speaker 1: anybody knows anything about Jim Johnson and his time in Philly,
1:16:04
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna spend too much time on it, but
1:16:05
Speaker 1: Jim Johnson was a defensive coordinator for the Eagles with
1:16:08
Speaker 1: that time with Andy Reid, even a little before that too,
1:16:10
Speaker 1: I think. But Jim Johnson was a four to three
1:16:13
Speaker 1: defense guy, but he was a blitzer. He was an attacker.
1:16:17
Speaker 1: That's why guys like Jeremiah Trotter and Brian Dawkins like
1:16:21
Speaker 1: were hitters for that defense, like Hugh Douglas, guys where
1:16:24
Speaker 1: you had dudes who could win up front. But they
1:16:26
Speaker 1: were nasty, they were mean, They flew around, but they
1:16:29
Speaker 1: played on the on the front foot. They attacked, they
1:16:31
Speaker 1: came forward and Sewn mcdermomy's defenses throughout his coaching tenure
1:16:36
Speaker 1: have done that. But I think Sean McDermott, and I've
1:16:40
Speaker 1: said this before and I have some specific pieces for it,
1:16:44
Speaker 1: I think Sean McDermott wants the bills to essentially just
1:16:47
Speaker 1: be the twenty fifteen Carolina Panthers where it's not overly
1:16:51
Speaker 1: complex schematically. Now you can like negatively and say that
1:16:55
Speaker 1: because they're not creative. You know, where it's not overly
1:16:57
Speaker 1: complex or creative schematically, where they're constantly playing coverage, dropping
1:17:02
Speaker 1: seven into coverage, where they're relying on their front specifically
1:17:06
Speaker 1: the front four to play the run, so they can
1:17:08
Speaker 1: have the numbers advantage in coverage, right, they want to
1:17:12
Speaker 1: win that way. The problem is being that type of
1:17:19
Speaker 1: simplistic defense. And I don't want people to think simplistic
1:17:22
Speaker 1: means bad. But when you are just a coverage based defense,
1:17:26
Speaker 1: or you are not overly complex schematically, you're not winning
1:17:30
Speaker 1: with scheme and structure and you're not manipulating protection schemes
1:17:33
Speaker 1: and attacking. When you're just relying on your dudes, that's fine,
1:17:38
Speaker 1: but you have to have a loaded defense or dudes
1:17:41
Speaker 1: that are built for that. And again, that type of
1:17:45
Speaker 1: identity and that type of defense works better when your
1:17:48
Speaker 1: defense is loaded, like the Carolina Panthers defense was in
1:17:52
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen. That's the team that had one loss. They
1:17:54
Speaker 1: went to the Super Bowl against the Broncos, Unfortunately, that
1:17:58
Speaker 1: Panthers defense ran up against the Broncos defense, and the
1:18:01
Speaker 1: Broncos defense did better against the Panthers offense in the
1:18:04
Speaker 1: Super Bowl than the Panthers defense did against the Broncos offense,
1:18:06
Speaker 1: though they still did very good. Now here's some of
1:18:11
Speaker 1: the players that were on that twenty fifteen Panthers team.
1:18:13
Speaker 1: You had Kwan Short, second team All Pro defensive tackle.
1:18:17
Speaker 1: He had eleven sacks that year. Luke Keighley first team
1:18:20
Speaker 1: All Pro, third in the Defensive Player of the Year voting.
1:18:23
Speaker 1: Thomas Davis Line, another linebacker on that team, First team
1:18:26
Speaker 1: All Pro. You had two first team All Pro linebackers
1:18:30
Speaker 1: on this team, Josh Norman, first team All Pro corner,
1:18:34
Speaker 1: fourth in Defensive Player of the Year voting, Kirk Coleman
1:18:37
Speaker 1: safety made the Pro Bowl. Then the other like non
1:18:40
Speaker 1: stars on that defense were an up and coming Shaq Thompson,
1:18:44
Speaker 1: a prime Starletulalay who all Bills jokes aside, was a
1:18:48
Speaker 1: monster for Carolina when he came out of Utah. Charles
1:18:53
Speaker 1: Tillman Bears legend who was still functional at that time
1:18:56
Speaker 1: in zone, vet, leadership, sound and coverage. Charles Johnson monster
1:19:00
Speaker 1: defensive end, was hurt that year, but then had came
1:19:02
Speaker 1: back and had three sacks in the playoffs, one in
1:19:04
Speaker 1: the Divisional Round championship, and in the Super Bowl. This
1:19:08
Speaker 1: defense as a whole had four All pros on it
1:19:11
Speaker 1: and two guys finish in the top four for Defensive
1:19:16
Speaker 1: Player of the Year, and one of them was Luke Keikley,
1:19:18
Speaker 1: who's viewed by some as arguably the greatest linebacker of
1:19:21
Speaker 1: all time. You don't have that here, and I want
1:19:27
Speaker 1: to grab this. I don't know this is common here
1:19:29
Speaker 1: from Rage Dog Rage Doug Dog, I think, and that's
1:19:32
Speaker 1: what I'm pronouncing it. Who says we have plenty of
1:19:34
Speaker 1: dudes on the Bills. Benford, Milano, Bernard Hairston, Bishop, Oliver Hoyt,
1:19:38
Speaker 1: and Bosa have all shown their dudes when an't healthy.
1:19:40
Speaker 1: When I say dudes, I mean like top tier guys
1:19:43
Speaker 1: at their position. None of those guys that you listed
1:19:47
Speaker 1: there are that. Respectfully, I think all those guys are
1:19:50
Speaker 1: good football players. Went healthy one thousand percent. I don't
1:19:53
Speaker 1: think they're dudes in the perspective of top tier guys
1:19:56
Speaker 1: at their position. Bosa went healthy, I think can still
1:20:00
Speaker 1: be a top ten edge rusher in this league, and
1:20:02
Speaker 1: I think he was showing that on tape and in
1:20:04
Speaker 1: the metrics before he got hurt this year. But I
1:20:08
Speaker 1: don't think no, no, no, no, no no no. You're
1:20:12
Speaker 1: saying they're all all pro leveling game wreckers. No they're not.
1:20:15
Speaker 1: Christian Benfer, Matt Malonald Terrell Bernard, Max, Max Harriston. Max
1:20:19
Speaker 1: Harriston is an all pro level corner right now. Cole
1:20:21
Speaker 1: Bishop's an all pro level safety at Oliver Michael Hoyt.
1:20:25
Speaker 1: I love Hoyt. He was one of my prime free
1:20:28
Speaker 1: agent targets for the Bills this year. Now, I don't
1:20:31
Speaker 1: know if it's a troll or a joke, and I
1:20:34
Speaker 1: don't want to make those assumptions. I just don't think.
1:20:37
Speaker 1: I think those guys are all very good football players,
1:20:39
Speaker 1: good to very good for some of them. But they're
1:20:42
Speaker 1: not like dudes how I mean it. They're not top
1:20:45
Speaker 1: tier guys at their positions, especially when you're comparing that
1:20:49
Speaker 1: to the names I just rattled off for the Panthers defense.
1:20:53
Speaker 1: I think again, as people even people reference last year
1:20:58
Speaker 1: with the Eagles defense that wracked the Chiefs and the
1:21:01
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, and I was like, Oh, that's the type
1:21:03
Speaker 1: of defense you got to play the defense, and a
1:21:06
Speaker 1: ton of really good football players, especially on the defensive line,
1:21:10
Speaker 1: Like you just had wave after wave of guys who
1:21:12
Speaker 1: were a problem. And then again on the I mean
1:21:14
Speaker 1: Zach Bond was an All Pro linebacker, you had Cooper
1:21:17
Speaker 1: dejen and what he did, and quinnyon Mitchell and Darius
1:21:19
Speaker 1: Slay and everything you've gotten. Then you have a tremendous
1:21:22
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator kind of building it all up. Like the
1:21:25
Speaker 1: Bills defense from an identity and philosophy standpoint, is a
1:21:29
Speaker 1: four down overfront nickel defense for the most part, even
1:21:34
Speaker 1: though they have started to do more base looks as
1:21:36
Speaker 1: teams have gone bigger and they've started to even experiment
1:21:38
Speaker 1: with some of their fronts. They've gone with some more
1:21:40
Speaker 1: five down fronts. They've started to do some more like
1:21:43
Speaker 1: Dorny Williams as a sam linebacker on the end of
1:21:46
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage type of deal, and they mixed
1:21:48
Speaker 1: in some different things. They've even gone some underfronts this
1:21:50
Speaker 1: year where you're putting the one tech to the strong
1:21:53
Speaker 1: side for the formation. But they are built and their
1:22:00
Speaker 1: identity and their philosophy to play coverage and just let
1:22:05
Speaker 1: the front four do its thing and they don't have
1:22:07
Speaker 1: the type of front four for that. And when you
1:22:09
Speaker 1: don't have you can either win with talent or you
1:22:12
Speaker 1: can win with scheme. It's the whole, you know, Jimmy's
1:22:14
Speaker 1: and Joe's versus X's and O's type of deal. Right,
1:22:16
Speaker 1: you can win with Jimmy's and Joe's and or you
1:22:18
Speaker 1: can win with X's and O's. It can be either or.
1:22:21
Speaker 1: But if you don't have the talent advantage, you have
1:22:23
Speaker 1: to win schematically. You have to be so sound or
1:22:26
Speaker 1: creative or complex to you know, kind of throw games
1:22:31
Speaker 1: on its head or throw opponents on their head. And
1:22:34
Speaker 1: the Bills don't have that, and so you have that
1:22:38
Speaker 1: type of less complex identity combined with a positional archetype
1:22:46
Speaker 1: philosophy of multiple positions that make you inherently deficient and
1:22:50
Speaker 1: an important aspect of football. And that's a recipe for failure.
1:22:55
Speaker 1: The struggles that we're seeing with the defense. We got
1:22:59
Speaker 1: here because of their philosophy of how to build the roster,
1:23:04
Speaker 1: their positional archetypes, and because of how that ties into
1:23:07
Speaker 1: their schematic identity and philosophy. I don't know which is first.
1:23:11
Speaker 1: I do you know, if we're playing chicken and egg.
1:23:12
Speaker 1: I think the first comes the scheme, structure, philosophy, identity,
1:23:16
Speaker 1: and then comes the positional archetypes. But that's essentially where
1:23:20
Speaker 1: we're at right now. Where that's where you're operating, that's
1:23:25
Speaker 1: where you're going, and I think they need a change
1:23:28
Speaker 1: in that regard. I will say since Sean McDermott took
1:23:30
Speaker 1: over the defense, I know obviously they had a ton
1:23:32
Speaker 1: of points put up against them or on them against Tampa.
1:23:35
Speaker 1: I do think they've done some fun stuff in coverage
1:23:37
Speaker 1: and they've been better in coverage, less spot drop, more matching,
1:23:42
Speaker 1: tighter coverage. I think they've been better in that regard.
1:23:46
Speaker 1: It's just been unfortunate that that's occurred with a dip
1:23:50
Speaker 1: in the pass rush, largely because of Bosa's injury and
1:23:53
Speaker 1: some of the injuries up front overall. But Bosa being
1:23:56
Speaker 1: banged up has been a huge problem and White going down.
1:23:59
Speaker 1: And that's even why I was excited for Hoyt when
1:24:01
Speaker 1: he came in, because I like a skill set and
1:24:03
Speaker 1: what he can do and the type of player that
1:24:04
Speaker 1: he is. But I thought it signaled. I thought it
1:24:09
Speaker 1: signaled they're going to start to operate differently, and they
1:24:13
Speaker 1: did to a degree with Hoyt. But if if he is,
1:24:17
Speaker 1: if his type of skill set or traits are so
1:24:19
Speaker 1: important to elevating your scheme and structure, you have to
1:24:23
Speaker 1: have multiple guys who can do that, and they don't,
1:24:26
Speaker 1: and it's it's just unfortunate. And then you get to
1:24:29
Speaker 1: a spot where again like you I am, I am not.
1:24:35
Speaker 1: I know we're fans of this game, but at the
1:24:39
Speaker 1: end of the day, like I know, they get paid
1:24:41
Speaker 1: millions and they're in the public eye and all that stuff,
1:24:42
Speaker 1: but it's not like these football players, I gets still
1:24:44
Speaker 1: their job. So I'm not one to ever, you know,
1:24:47
Speaker 1: call for someone's job or say they should be cut
1:24:50
Speaker 1: or be released or whatever, like I'm not that guy.
1:24:53
Speaker 1: But it's it's wild to me that Jordan Phillips has
1:24:58
Speaker 1: seen as many snaps as he is, especially a run
1:25:00
Speaker 1: defense standpoint, Like and I know, you can't always game
1:25:02
Speaker 1: it up. You can't only put him out there for past,
1:25:05
Speaker 1: you know, past past reps, but he's just not serviceable
1:25:09
Speaker 1: in any way against the past. And the fact that
1:25:10
Speaker 1: they would see a guy like that of his level
1:25:13
Speaker 1: at this point and his skill set and his traits,
1:25:16
Speaker 1: the fact that they would see that guy and think
1:25:19
Speaker 1: he's capable of starting multiple games for them and being
1:25:22
Speaker 1: a regular rotational guy. I think tells you all you
1:25:25
Speaker 1: need to know about their ideas, on their philosophy and
1:25:30
Speaker 1: on how they want to build from the interior out.
1:25:33
Speaker 1: And again that's using the intent here defensive line as
1:25:35
Speaker 1: the focus, but it extends, it all goes throughout the
1:25:40
Speaker 1: the grouping and you know, I just think hanging your
1:25:45
Speaker 1: your hopes on one aspect of football is a rough
1:25:49
Speaker 1: way to go. And again, injuries have one hundred percent
1:25:52
Speaker 1: been an issue. Bernard being hurt has impacted the way
1:25:55
Speaker 1: he plays the game. The interior defensive line issues have
1:25:58
Speaker 1: been in an issue. Bosa goes down, Greg Russeau was
1:26:03
Speaker 1: hurt to start the year. A J. Panessa has a
1:26:05
Speaker 1: shoulder injury. Now, like there's all these things are kind
1:26:08
Speaker 1: of adding up. Point goes down, Like there are one
1:26:10
Speaker 1: hundred percent injuries. But even when everybody's at their best
1:26:13
Speaker 1: and healthy, Ed Oliver was sweet again like ed Oliver
1:26:16
Speaker 1: went both the games he played looked great. But we
1:26:19
Speaker 1: know what we've seen in the past. The question has
1:26:21
Speaker 1: always been you get those flashes from at Oliver and
1:26:23
Speaker 1: he follows them up with disappearing acts. So he'll have
1:26:26
Speaker 1: a game, he'll have bunches where you know, four sacks
1:26:30
Speaker 1: and three games, or four sacks and two games, or
1:26:32
Speaker 1: three sacks and three games, and or you know, a
1:26:34
Speaker 1: bunch of TFLs or good plays in the backfield, and
1:26:37
Speaker 1: then it's all of a sudden, like he's ghost and
1:26:38
Speaker 1: you don't see him at all. Sometimes it's in high
1:26:42
Speaker 1: you know, high profile moments in the playoffs. Sometimes it's
1:26:43
Speaker 1: just for multiple stretches during the regular season, and that
1:26:47
Speaker 1: was gonna be your top tier guy who had the
1:26:49
Speaker 1: least amount of questions about him. It's just just worrisome
1:26:55
Speaker 1: on that defensive side. I think they need I've said it.
1:26:58
Speaker 1: I think it's still more tweaks and alterations, but they
1:27:02
Speaker 1: need to do something different from a positional archetype and
1:27:05
Speaker 1: philosophy and identity standpoint, on the defensive side of the ball.
1:27:08
Speaker 1: They can't just keep operating in this manner. It's too
1:27:10
Speaker 1: high variants, it's too they're too dependent on other things
1:27:13
Speaker 1: to maintain defensive success at this point, and it's tough
1:27:18
Speaker 1: hu else. I don't think I have any other Yeah,
1:27:25
Speaker 1: So this is the defensi side of the ball. We're
1:27:27
Speaker 1: gonna flip the offensive side now in a minute. And again,
1:27:30
Speaker 1: I don't want to make it seem like the Bills
1:27:31
Speaker 1: don't have good players, right. The Bills have good players
1:27:37
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball, and I do
1:27:38
Speaker 1: think some of the down years that we're seeing from
1:27:40
Speaker 1: guys aren't necessarily indicative of who they are. But I
1:27:46
Speaker 1: think they do have to change some of their archetypes
1:27:48
Speaker 1: and their positional archetypes and the type of body types
1:27:51
Speaker 1: they gravitate towards the skill sets they bring in in
1:27:53
Speaker 1: addition to some of the identity and the philosophy stuff.
1:27:56
Speaker 1: That's not to say they don't have good players. I
1:27:58
Speaker 1: do think they have good players. I don't think they're
1:28:00
Speaker 1: completely devoid of talent. I don't think they have like
1:28:03
Speaker 1: s tier top tier defenders. I don't think they have
1:28:07
Speaker 1: a bunch of game records or game wreckers on the
1:28:10
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. I don't think they have
1:28:13
Speaker 1: all Pro candidates on the defensive side of the ball.
1:28:17
Speaker 1: But they do have good football players, and I think
1:28:19
Speaker 1: they can be a good defense. They just need to
1:28:22
Speaker 1: be more well rounded and not play the ends of
1:28:24
Speaker 1: the extreme. And again, injuries are important. I do think
1:28:28
Speaker 1: that if they were completely healthy for the entirety of
1:28:30
Speaker 1: the year, they would be a much better defense, like
1:28:33
Speaker 1: you could say for a bunch of teams and a
1:28:35
Speaker 1: bunch of units in the league. But they were when healthy,
1:28:39
Speaker 1: they were always going to struggle against the run. This
1:28:41
Speaker 1: year it was just going to be a matter of
1:28:42
Speaker 1: how much. It was like are they going to be
1:28:44
Speaker 1: bottom five? Are they going to be bottom ten? Like?
1:28:47
Speaker 1: What are they going to be against the run? Can
1:28:50
Speaker 1: they score enough to have gamescript help them out again?
1:28:52
Speaker 1: Are they going to continue to get turnovers? Can they
1:28:54
Speaker 1: penetrate and shoot gaps enough to get negative plays and
1:28:58
Speaker 1: force teams in a known passing situations? It was more
1:29:01
Speaker 1: of how can they Their best way to stop the
1:29:05
Speaker 1: run was going to be ancillary things to stopping the run.
1:29:09
Speaker 1: It was going to be other things. How can you
1:29:13
Speaker 1: cobble together the run defense rather than just how do
1:29:17
Speaker 1: we stop the run? That's how they were going to
1:29:19
Speaker 1: stop the run. They weren't going to stop the run
1:29:21
Speaker 1: by stopping the run itself. They were going to do
1:29:23
Speaker 1: it by winning in other areas to try and force
1:29:26
Speaker 1: teams away from it. If that makes sense, And I
1:29:29
Speaker 1: just don't think that's sound because it makes you so
1:29:31
Speaker 1: dependent on a multitude of other avenues to stop this
1:29:35
Speaker 1: one thing that is a pain point for how you
1:29:38
Speaker 1: operate not only as a defense, but then how you
1:29:41
Speaker 1: operate as a team as a whole. Oh question here,
1:29:46
Speaker 1: Uh is it fair to say Oliver needs a reliable
1:29:50
Speaker 1: running mate to be consistent? I think that's a really
1:29:53
Speaker 1: good question. I think more of it's on ed, But yeah,
1:29:58
Speaker 1: I do think the odds would in increase if he
1:30:00
Speaker 1: got a consistent dude next to him, even just he
1:30:06
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be he doesn't. I don't think he
1:30:08
Speaker 1: needs an All Pro next to him or some stud
1:30:10
Speaker 1: next to him. But if he can just get a
1:30:11
Speaker 1: reliably good football player against him, like even what Daiquon
1:30:15
Speaker 1: was what two seasons ago, where he kind of looked
1:30:17
Speaker 1: like an All Pro for a couple of weeks, if
1:30:19
Speaker 1: he can just get a consistently good player next to him, Yeah,
1:30:22
Speaker 1: to your point, if he gets a reliable running mate, yes,
1:30:24
Speaker 1: I would prefer that guy be more of a true
1:30:28
Speaker 1: one tech or be more of a complete guy. He
1:30:30
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be a pure inside rush winner. He
1:30:36
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be a pure run stuffer. I think
1:30:37
Speaker 1: it's if Ed plays next to a more complete defensive
1:30:40
Speaker 1: tackle or just a dude. Obviously that'll work well. But
1:30:45
Speaker 1: I just think if he gets more of a consistent,
1:30:47
Speaker 1: not consistent, more of a complete defensive tackle next to him,
1:30:50
Speaker 1: that would go a long way. He needs somebody next
1:30:51
Speaker 1: to him who just has some kind of run defense
1:30:53
Speaker 1: in his skill set and isn't bereft or devoid of talent,
1:30:57
Speaker 1: or isn't skewed severely to one side of the pendulum.
1:31:02
Speaker 1: And they found out by saying, am I crazy for
1:31:04
Speaker 1: thinking Dion Walker can become that dude? I think there's
1:31:08
Speaker 1: If you would have asked me this in the off season,
1:31:11
Speaker 1: I would have said yes. But with his play this year,
1:31:14
Speaker 1: I do think there is some hope for that. I
1:31:16
Speaker 1: don't think I would like to see them deploy Dion
1:31:22
Speaker 1: Walker in ways that aren't just him being a one tech.
1:31:26
Speaker 1: I think he could potentially become that guy, but you're
1:31:30
Speaker 1: really seeing him kind of dip in the other areas.
1:31:34
Speaker 1: But I think Walker could become that guy. He's just
1:31:36
Speaker 1: off this one season. I've said it before, like he
1:31:38
Speaker 1: surpassed my expectations for this year as an overall player,
1:31:41
Speaker 1: but even as a run defender. I thought his run
1:31:43
Speaker 1: defense was going to be atrocious. It has not been.
1:31:46
Speaker 1: He's worked on his anchor, his block recognition has improved.
1:31:50
Speaker 1: I think he needs to be better at using his
1:31:51
Speaker 1: hands in his length and needs to be better at
1:31:53
Speaker 1: block deconstruction and improve some surface area of things. So
1:31:56
Speaker 1: much of it for Walker is like it or not,
1:31:59
Speaker 1: is tie to his build, Like he's so tall and
1:32:02
Speaker 1: he's not very bendy, Like he's going to be at
1:32:05
Speaker 1: a leverage disadvantage against most interior guys just because of
1:32:08
Speaker 1: how he's built right, so weight. He's gonna have to
1:32:11
Speaker 1: constantly manage his weight, manage his hell physically, he's gonna
1:32:14
Speaker 1: make she has to make sure he's in great shape
1:32:16
Speaker 1: because anything that's tweaked or moved in the wrong way
1:32:19
Speaker 1: could be a problem for him. But I don't think
1:32:23
Speaker 1: he's been this stud this year that people are kind
1:32:25
Speaker 1: of labeling him to be. But I think he's having
1:32:28
Speaker 1: a solid rookie season. He surpassed my expectations. I think
1:32:32
Speaker 1: he could become that dude. I would like to see
1:32:35
Speaker 1: him have more positional versatility and get used a little
1:32:37
Speaker 1: bit more like he was a Kentucky. But if he
1:32:40
Speaker 1: has to be that one tech. I don't think that's
1:32:43
Speaker 1: a horrible notion to kind of put him next to Ed,
1:32:45
Speaker 1: but I would I would like more of a true
1:32:50
Speaker 1: I would like more of a run defense skill set
1:32:53
Speaker 1: in there. I think Walker right now is still like
1:32:56
Speaker 1: when he came in. I thought he was like ninety
1:32:58
Speaker 1: ten pass rush to defense. Now I think he's more
1:33:01
Speaker 1: like seventy thirty. I would like somebody on the interior
1:33:06
Speaker 1: that's more like fifty five to forty five or sixty
1:33:10
Speaker 1: forty at worst. But I do have hope for a Walker.
1:33:13
Speaker 1: That's a very good question. Okay, let's move to the
1:33:19
Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball. And I labeled this one
1:33:21
Speaker 1: verticality and fear from the wide receivers. And when I
1:33:24
Speaker 1: say verticality and fear from the wide receivers, I mean
1:33:27
Speaker 1: that from a defensive perspective. I talked about it earlier.
1:33:31
Speaker 1: We saw the Bills offense successfully pivot their entire offensive
1:33:37
Speaker 1: identity last year. Condensed formations, bigger body types. We're reducing
1:33:42
Speaker 1: formational with We're gonna run the football. We're gonna get
1:33:44
Speaker 1: to twelve personnel. We're gonna use jumbo, we're gonna use
1:33:47
Speaker 1: six offensive linemen. We are gonna mash mash mash. We
1:33:52
Speaker 1: are going to get Matt Collins in there and Keon
1:33:56
Speaker 1: Coleman in there. We're gonna people move, dudes, and we're
1:33:58
Speaker 1: gonna run duo, and we're going to run these three
1:34:01
Speaker 1: to four run concepts and we're just going to crush
1:34:03
Speaker 1: teams and then we'll pass as we need to. Right,
1:34:07
Speaker 1: So that was their identity. They pivoted as the season
1:34:12
Speaker 1: went on iterily, like the Baltimore game last year, the
1:34:16
Speaker 1: Houston game last year, teams started to find the Bills
1:34:20
Speaker 1: offense out a little bit. I said it last year,
1:34:23
Speaker 1: and I said it similarly this year. If you were
1:34:25
Speaker 1: a team that had good and or athletic corners, you
1:34:29
Speaker 1: could play single high coverage against the Bills because the
1:34:32
Speaker 1: threat of getting beat outside and or deep was low.
1:34:38
Speaker 1: So defenses would start to do that. They'd play a
1:34:40
Speaker 1: bunch of single high, they would try and stop the run.
1:34:43
Speaker 1: They would force the Bills into third and long or
1:34:46
Speaker 1: you know, known or true passing situations, and then they
1:34:49
Speaker 1: would game up their protections and they would cause problems
1:34:51
Speaker 1: for Allen. We saw that last year, particularly the Ravens
1:34:55
Speaker 1: game in the Houston game, So the Bills went out
1:34:58
Speaker 1: and they got Amari Cooper because they were like, uh, oh,
1:35:00
Speaker 1: we have a problem. We need a bucket getter on
1:35:03
Speaker 1: the outside. Let's get Amarti Cooper. Cooper flashed that a
1:35:06
Speaker 1: little bit wasn't necessarily himself. He also got hurt. Was
1:35:10
Speaker 1: kind of the answer, but also kind of wasn't. But
1:35:13
Speaker 1: you saw that last year in your offense. You saw, hey,
1:35:18
Speaker 1: we have a really good run game. We're winning with
1:35:20
Speaker 1: formation and alignment and personnel. But things are starting to
1:35:25
Speaker 1: get wonky for us if we don't have threats on
1:35:28
Speaker 1: the outside, if we can't win on the outside, things
1:35:31
Speaker 1: are gonna get tight and tough for us as an offense.
1:35:35
Speaker 1: You knew that last year. Okay, So you come into
1:35:40
Speaker 1: this offense, offense, come into this offseason, and all you
1:35:45
Speaker 1: do is you add Josh Palmer and you don't really
1:35:48
Speaker 1: address wide receiver at all. Teams again started to find
1:35:52
Speaker 1: out to find the Bills offense out last year, and
1:35:55
Speaker 1: the Bills did very little to combat that. They did
1:35:58
Speaker 1: very little to push defense back, make them back off,
1:36:02
Speaker 1: and make them have to account for being passed on
1:36:04
Speaker 1: vertically and or outside the numbers. Yeah, those teams were
1:36:09
Speaker 1: good or athletic cbs could give the Bills problems because
1:36:11
Speaker 1: it meant defenses could play single high and crowd the
1:36:14
Speaker 1: box and or line of scrimmage to stop the run.
1:36:16
Speaker 1: They could flood bodies in between the numbers in between
1:36:19
Speaker 1: the hashes, make life difficult and be like, yo, we
1:36:22
Speaker 1: good luck with your guys on the outside trying to
1:36:25
Speaker 1: beat our guys on the outside. Right, And the Texans
1:36:27
Speaker 1: the game is an extreme example of that, right, they
1:36:29
Speaker 1: have an amazing, amazing corner tandem. Kamari Lassiter is like
1:36:35
Speaker 1: one of the best CB twos in the league, borderline
1:36:37
Speaker 1: CB one now like low and CB one stingy if
1:36:40
Speaker 1: not for Patzertan, Derek Stingley for me, would be hands
1:36:43
Speaker 1: down the best corner in football. So that's a horrible
1:36:46
Speaker 1: match up for the Bills. They're just lockdown period. But
1:36:48
Speaker 1: we saw struggles earlier in the year Guess Christian Zalez
1:36:50
Speaker 1: and Carlton Davis right, Which is why Don Kinkaid is
1:36:53
Speaker 1: so important. Because you get Kinkaid mitchmatched or matched up
1:36:56
Speaker 1: on linebackers or safety. He's the mismatch creator. He's the
1:36:59
Speaker 1: guy you want to take advantage of and get the
1:37:01
Speaker 1: ball to vertically and or for explosives or chunk plays
1:37:05
Speaker 1: because it's either coming for him or it's coming from
1:37:07
Speaker 1: Shakir on a wide receiver screen, and he breaks some
1:37:09
Speaker 1: tackles and he does some stuff. You're not getting guys
1:37:11
Speaker 1: on the outside who can win or separate. You don't
1:37:14
Speaker 1: have these bucket getters on the outside. And you knew
1:37:17
Speaker 1: that could be a problem last year. That's why you
1:37:20
Speaker 1: traded for Amari Cooper. And so they recognized, hey, we
1:37:24
Speaker 1: need a bucket getter, and they tried to get one.
1:37:28
Speaker 1: And instead of trying to secure that for twenty twenty five,
1:37:30
Speaker 1: and I mean, like really securing that instead, and this
1:37:34
Speaker 1: is no disrespect to Josh Palmer, because I like Josh
1:37:36
Speaker 1: Palmer or what he is as a player, instead of
1:37:40
Speaker 1: really securing that bucket getter, they added a career wide
1:37:44
Speaker 1: receiver three who could spot duty as a wide receiver two.
1:37:47
Speaker 1: That was their answer. And that's not cutting it. Josh Palmer,
1:37:53
Speaker 1: I've said it all year, really good at winning in
1:37:57
Speaker 1: the underneath and the low intermediate. He's got his good
1:38:00
Speaker 1: in his route stems. He's good with deception. He can
1:38:02
Speaker 1: win vertically off of a schemed route or even sometimes
1:38:05
Speaker 1: with deception, but people overblew his deep threat ability because
1:38:10
Speaker 1: of some of the metrics that show but there was
1:38:12
Speaker 1: blown coverage. There were things that were kind of in
1:38:16
Speaker 1: his favor that weren't like him being a true burner
1:38:19
Speaker 1: truly beating someone on the outside with just like running
1:38:22
Speaker 1: by somebody or being a vertical threat take the top
1:38:24
Speaker 1: off the defense type of vertical guy. That's what I
1:38:26
Speaker 1: mean with verticality. And so that was their answer for like, oh,
1:38:30
Speaker 1: here's how we'll improve the wide receiver room. And I
1:38:32
Speaker 1: do think as an overall wide receiver, Josh Palmer is
1:38:35
Speaker 1: better than Matt Collins. And you could even make the
1:38:37
Speaker 1: case that Josh Palmer is better than the banged up
1:38:40
Speaker 1: of Marti Cooper they got, but they needed more than that.
1:38:43
Speaker 1: And on top of that, they refuse this year to
1:38:47
Speaker 1: incorporate the wide receivers that they have with speed, which
1:38:50
Speaker 1: Occurtis Samuel and Elijah Moore. Now I don't think either
1:38:54
Speaker 1: of those guys are the slam dunk answers to their
1:38:56
Speaker 1: wide receiver problems for a multitude of reasons. But Elijah
1:39:01
Speaker 1: Moore and Curtis Samuel are the bills only or have
1:39:05
Speaker 1: been on paper the Bills is only shot at a
1:39:08
Speaker 1: vertical element to their pass game. And then you look
1:39:11
Speaker 1: at them individually. Curtis Samuel has injury concerns and can
1:39:14
Speaker 1: never stay on the field, and Elijah Moore was a late,
1:39:17
Speaker 1: almost panic kind of ad. So that to me, again,
1:39:22
Speaker 1: if I'm trying to read the tea, leaves a little bit.
1:39:24
Speaker 1: If your two main speed guys are a guy who's
1:39:27
Speaker 1: hurt a bunch and doesn't really stay on the field
1:39:30
Speaker 1: and the other speed guy is the guy you added
1:39:32
Speaker 1: last minute, that to me signals like you don't really
1:39:35
Speaker 1: care about that element in your wide receiver room or
1:39:38
Speaker 1: in your offense. And you needed that, you needed verticality
1:39:43
Speaker 1: in this offense, and or you needed bucket ketters, and
1:39:48
Speaker 1: you didn't do much to set yourself up for bringing
1:39:51
Speaker 1: that in twenty twenty five and building upon twenty twenty four.
1:39:55
Speaker 1: And this is where it ties into the predictability and
1:39:57
Speaker 1: what Brady has done. Oh, I got to stop. You
1:39:59
Speaker 1: got super chat Ali, Thank you very much for being here.
1:40:02
Speaker 1: Thank you for the super chat Ali says. The first
1:40:05
Speaker 1: sack was Allen's fault turned down knocks open plus late
1:40:09
Speaker 1: to his read of more open. In the end, zone.
1:40:11
Speaker 1: The other seven sacks all occurred in the second half
1:40:14
Speaker 1: after Brown's injury, and forward directly him getting beat. Negligence
1:40:18
Speaker 1: from the coaches question our exclamation point, I do think
1:40:21
Speaker 1: I said this during the game, and I said it
1:40:22
Speaker 1: after you could see Spencer Brown was laboring. There are
1:40:26
Speaker 1: multiple drives where he gives up a sack and he
1:40:29
Speaker 1: comes up holding his elbow, like, barely able to use
1:40:32
Speaker 1: his arm. And Anderson knew it. Hunter knew it. But
1:40:36
Speaker 1: you were just watching Anderson beat him around the arc
1:40:38
Speaker 1: and going through that right arm and that right shoulder,
1:40:40
Speaker 1: and Brown couldn't do anything. Brown couldn't punch with that hand,
1:40:43
Speaker 1: couldn't push, he could barely lift it past like his chest.
1:40:48
Speaker 1: So I do think it was it leaving a guy
1:40:52
Speaker 1: out there who's clearly hurting, Like there's a difference between
1:40:55
Speaker 1: someone being hurt and someone being injured. Brown was injured,
1:40:59
Speaker 1: and they left him in there. And not only did
1:41:01
Speaker 1: they leave him in there, but they kept putting him
1:41:02
Speaker 1: on an island. So it's not even like, okay, like
1:41:05
Speaker 1: you can you can still go and gut it out,
1:41:07
Speaker 1: but we'll give you some help. They left him in
1:41:10
Speaker 1: there on an island. I think that's rough to leave
1:41:14
Speaker 1: an injured guy in there who's clearly injured and also
1:41:17
Speaker 1: like is injured to the point where he's hurting the team.
1:41:21
Speaker 1: You got to make that call and get him out
1:41:23
Speaker 1: for his benefit and also selfishly for the teams. And
1:41:27
Speaker 1: at the very least, you have to give him some
1:41:29
Speaker 1: kind of help. You have to give more chips, You
1:41:32
Speaker 1: have to line up the tight end to his side
1:41:34
Speaker 1: and create some interference or obstruction for that edge, or
1:41:36
Speaker 1: again just chip out of the backfield and release, like,
1:41:38
Speaker 1: do something. You got to give some kind of support,
1:41:41
Speaker 1: or stop bringing your guards out to attack the spy
1:41:45
Speaker 1: and have the have o cyrus torns staying to give
1:41:47
Speaker 1: help to Spencer Brown, like you got you do something.
1:41:50
Speaker 1: They didn't do anything. They didn't change anything schematically. They
1:41:53
Speaker 1: just kept doing the same thing and they kept getting killed.
1:41:57
Speaker 1: Even Spencer Brown having one arm wasn't enough to change
1:41:59
Speaker 1: them from doing it. That So, yeah, I don't know.
1:42:02
Speaker 1: Negligence is a strong word. I think that's fair if
1:42:05
Speaker 1: you want to say negligence, malpractice whatever, like I think that.
1:42:08
Speaker 1: I still think that's crazy. He was clearly hurt and
1:42:11
Speaker 1: they didn't even get Not only did they not take
1:42:13
Speaker 1: him out. They didn't Eve give him help. They just
1:42:15
Speaker 1: let him rock out there with one arm against the
1:42:18
Speaker 1: best edge arguably the best, if not the best edge
1:42:20
Speaker 1: rushing tandem in the league. They just let him rock
1:42:23
Speaker 1: on an island like that's crazy crazy. Yes, so, and
1:42:32
Speaker 1: I was saying, really good comment there, Alie, thank you
1:42:34
Speaker 1: for again, thank you for being here thinking for the
1:42:36
Speaker 1: super chat. That's a good question. So as I was
1:42:39
Speaker 1: mentioning with the speed, the verticality and not building, this
1:42:42
Speaker 1: is where it comes into the predictability and things for
1:42:45
Speaker 1: the offense. So so much of the conversation lately has
1:42:48
Speaker 1: been the predictability and Brady just leaning into the same
1:42:52
Speaker 1: concepts if you're you know, counting at home, the run concept,
1:42:55
Speaker 1: stuff like blast counter, which is a concept I love
1:42:58
Speaker 1: that they added this year. The way they run it
1:43:00
Speaker 1: in the presentation has become so predictable. Now it's getting
1:43:03
Speaker 1: found out and it's getting stopped all the time. Their
1:43:05
Speaker 1: run game is getting found out because they run the
1:43:07
Speaker 1: same concepts from the same type of presentation the past game.
1:43:10
Speaker 1: As everybody knows now haha, they run Mesh a ton,
1:43:13
Speaker 1: ha ha, they run double China a ton, They run
1:43:15
Speaker 1: Hank which is curl flats a ton that's their three
1:43:20
Speaker 1: like bread and butter, and they run wide receiver screen
1:43:22
Speaker 1: which haha, they do a ton, and they run it
1:43:24
Speaker 1: as drive starters. They run all of these as like
1:43:26
Speaker 1: their drive starters. They're feel good middle of the drive stuff,
1:43:30
Speaker 1: the god to have it, high leverage moments on third down,
1:43:34
Speaker 1: fourth down, low red zone like stuff that you need.
1:43:38
Speaker 1: They run the same stuff. And yes there's different Like
1:43:40
Speaker 1: mesh has multiple versions. You got mesh rail, you got
1:43:42
Speaker 1: running back mesh traffic. You have more of a traditional mesh,
1:43:45
Speaker 1: but it's still mesh, and teams know it's coming. And
1:43:52
Speaker 1: they've gotten so predictable in their concepts and their sequencing
1:43:56
Speaker 1: and their situational football off offensively, and that's a problem. Right,
1:44:02
Speaker 1: But even before that, you came into twenty twenty five
1:44:07
Speaker 1: running almost the same offense as twenty twenty four. So
1:44:11
Speaker 1: after a year in which you had the NFL MVP
1:44:14
Speaker 1: and you had a great offensive year, and you had
1:44:18
Speaker 1: all these people applauding you for how you pivoted your
1:44:20
Speaker 1: offense and everybody eats and all of that, right, all
1:44:25
Speaker 1: this success and knowing that because of that success, there
1:44:30
Speaker 1: is going to be a target on your back and
1:44:33
Speaker 1: people are going to study the hell out of you.
1:44:37
Speaker 1: Instead of building or evolving or tweaking or adding layers,
1:44:43
Speaker 1: they just stood pat at who they were and what
1:44:47
Speaker 1: they were. Their biggest change this year has been adding
1:44:51
Speaker 1: that blast counter run concept and going with less Jumbo,
1:44:55
Speaker 1: which a six offensive lineman, and using Jackson Hawes instead
1:44:58
Speaker 1: of Alec Anderson. That's their biggest change. That's it other
1:45:02
Speaker 1: than that they're running about the same offense as last year.
1:45:05
Speaker 1: And then, like I mentioned, you couple that with running
1:45:07
Speaker 1: the same pass and run concepts over and over from
1:45:11
Speaker 1: very similar presentations, meaning the personnel and alignment over and over.
1:45:16
Speaker 1: You you just stamp hat That was always my ash.
1:45:23
Speaker 1: I said it in the offseason. I thought the wide
1:45:26
Speaker 1: receiver room that they had was fine if you're going
1:45:30
Speaker 1: to be a run, heavy, people moving type of offense.
1:45:33
Speaker 1: And I'm still saying that now, like, if you want
1:45:35
Speaker 1: to be a spread it out, you got to chuck
1:45:37
Speaker 1: it thirty to forty times. You got to win on
1:45:39
Speaker 1: the outside, you got to win deep. That's not what
1:45:43
Speaker 1: they have at wide receiver, and the lack of verticality
1:45:46
Speaker 1: is severely hurting them. And then on top of that
1:45:50
Speaker 1: because again, everything is getting tighter. We're not scared for
1:45:53
Speaker 1: a defense. We're not scared to get beat on the
1:45:54
Speaker 1: outside for a defense. We're not scared to get beat
1:45:57
Speaker 1: over the top. They're not throwing. They're not pushing the
1:45:59
Speaker 1: ball down No one's beating us downfield. No one's separating downfield.
1:46:02
Speaker 1: They don't throw those routes. The concepts aren't geeld gild.
1:46:06
Speaker 1: The concepts aren't geared to push the ball downfield. Alan's
1:46:10
Speaker 1: not pulching the ball downfield. We're not scared of the
1:46:12
Speaker 1: dudes that they even try to do that anyway. All
1:46:15
Speaker 1: of that, right, the notion that they were going to
1:46:21
Speaker 1: be a run first offense, condensed formation, all that stuff.
1:46:24
Speaker 1: I like that. It works, But you can't just be
1:46:28
Speaker 1: that because eventually everything is going to start to get tighter.
1:46:31
Speaker 1: Everyone's going to creep down. Everything is starting to get
1:46:35
Speaker 1: will start to get constricted like it did last year,
1:46:38
Speaker 1: like you saw, which is why you tried to get
1:46:40
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper. Well you not even tried. You did get
1:46:43
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper, and instead they just went back to that
1:46:46
Speaker 1: well again this year and we're seeing the struggles in
1:46:49
Speaker 1: the run game, and now you're getting teams that are
1:46:55
Speaker 1: tied into your tendency, and I think that's part of
1:46:58
Speaker 1: the bigger issue as well. I still think this offense
1:47:00
Speaker 1: can work running the football as their main quote unquote identity.
1:47:05
Speaker 1: I know people don't like that. I know people are
1:47:08
Speaker 1: gonna say, you have the MVP, you have Josh Allen,
1:47:09
Speaker 1: you should be chucking in around, blah blah blah. I
1:47:11
Speaker 1: get all that. I still think this offense can work
1:47:13
Speaker 1: as a run first team, heavier personnel work that stuff.
1:47:16
Speaker 1: They do have to get healthier. Kinkaid being out hurts
1:47:18
Speaker 1: them a ton, but I digress. They can still win offensively,
1:47:23
Speaker 1: but they've got to start to limit the predictability. You've
1:47:26
Speaker 1: got to see more under center passing. You've got to
1:47:29
Speaker 1: start to see more shotgun runs. There should be much
1:47:32
Speaker 1: more play action in this offense. There should be much
1:47:35
Speaker 1: more bootlegs in this offense and moving the pocket and
1:47:38
Speaker 1: taking advantage of Allen's legs and manufacturing some mobility for him.
1:47:41
Speaker 1: You're seeing teams tee off with rush lane integrity because
1:47:46
Speaker 1: they can manipulate the bills protection rules and schemes against them.
1:47:49
Speaker 1: That's why Allen's getting kept in the pocket. That's why
1:47:51
Speaker 1: they're able to figure things out, and they're winning on
1:47:54
Speaker 1: early downs against the Bills to get them into third
1:47:56
Speaker 1: and long and or third in known passing situations, so
1:48:00
Speaker 1: they can game up the Bills protections because they know
1:48:02
Speaker 1: they're likely to get a five man protection. They know
1:48:04
Speaker 1: what the Bills are gonna do and how they're gonna
1:48:06
Speaker 1: run it, and then they game up their protections. They
1:48:08
Speaker 1: keep Alan Hemden, nobody separates, and they can't win. The
1:48:12
Speaker 1: instructured pass game was an issue last year and it's
1:48:14
Speaker 1: still an issue this year. You cannot live if you
1:48:17
Speaker 1: are the Bills regularly chucking at thirty to forty times
1:48:20
Speaker 1: a game. Can you win every once in a while
1:48:22
Speaker 1: like that, Sure, but it's gonna take those high variance
1:48:25
Speaker 1: mutant alien unicorn plays from Allen, which can happen, but
1:48:29
Speaker 1: having them happen consistently is a lot. Like you're just
1:48:33
Speaker 1: you can't ask your pitcher to consistently go like eight innings,
1:48:37
Speaker 1: one hit game after game. Can you you have pictures
1:48:40
Speaker 1: that can do that? Yeah? Can Alan do that? Yeah?
1:48:43
Speaker 1: Can he do that every single game? That's a lot
1:48:46
Speaker 1: to ask, And again it's not I don't think they
1:48:50
Speaker 1: need they do need better guys on the outside, and
1:48:53
Speaker 1: they do need verticality, but that's not going away. I
1:48:55
Speaker 1: know they had Brandon Cooks. I'm gonna talk about that
1:48:57
Speaker 1: in a bit. That issue isn't gonna be fixed this shoar.
1:49:00
Speaker 1: But if they changed some of their ratios, their tendencies,
1:49:03
Speaker 1: they're telegraphing their tells that can go a long way,
1:49:06
Speaker 1: but they have refused to do that largely, even when
1:49:09
Speaker 1: they flip to I want to pull up this uh
1:49:14
Speaker 1: text from Kendall that he sent me because we were
1:49:16
Speaker 1: upset about things. Even if you want to flip and
1:49:19
Speaker 1: kind of do some different things and go like okay,
1:49:23
Speaker 1: like we're gonna try and change some of our tendencies
1:49:25
Speaker 1: this game, let's do this, they still fall into other
1:49:29
Speaker 1: tendencies here. It was a good Kendall tweeted this last
1:49:33
Speaker 1: Thursday after the game. The Bills and Quarters one through three,
1:49:36
Speaker 1: so when the game was largely close before they fourth
1:49:38
Speaker 1: quarter stuff where they had to pass it a ton
1:49:40
Speaker 1: to try and score at the end, the Bills and
1:49:42
Speaker 1: Quarters one through three against the Texans, they had a
1:49:44
Speaker 1: sixty eight point seven design run rate on first down,
1:49:47
Speaker 1: so essentially seven out of ten times they're running the
1:49:49
Speaker 1: ball in first down, and then they had a forty
1:49:51
Speaker 1: five point five percent play action rate on second down,
1:49:54
Speaker 1: So it was mostly the same run sequence, mostly the
1:49:57
Speaker 1: same sequence quarters one through three, run the ball on
1:50:00
Speaker 1: first down, then play action pass until the last play
1:50:04
Speaker 1: of the third quarter when they went first down play action.
1:50:08
Speaker 1: And the Bills right now have a fifty seven point
1:50:10
Speaker 1: three design run rate on first down this year, which
1:50:13
Speaker 1: is second highest in the league. It says, even when
1:50:17
Speaker 1: you tip things a little bit, they fall into other patterns.
1:50:23
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, we want some we want some more
1:50:27
Speaker 1: play action, and it's like, oh, okay, you want some
1:50:29
Speaker 1: more play action. Okay, we're gonna do it in a
1:50:32
Speaker 1: super predictable manner. And it's just like, oh, like, why
1:50:35
Speaker 1: why are you doing this? Why why are you? Like? We, yes,
1:50:40
Speaker 1: we want play action, but why do you have to
1:50:42
Speaker 1: give it to us in such a predictable form. It's
1:50:45
Speaker 1: just frustrating. Oh got another one from Ali, Ali, thank
1:50:48
Speaker 1: you for still being here thinking for the super check.
1:50:49
Speaker 1: Ali says the Bills defense is top five and rush
1:50:52
Speaker 1: yards before contact per attempt, dead lash and rush yards
1:50:54
Speaker 1: after contact per attempt, poor tacklers, tarn hits. Oh yeah,
1:50:58
Speaker 1: what he marks three yards short of the line the
1:50:59
Speaker 1: game on fourth and one and gets dragged eight yards
1:51:02
Speaker 1: zero physicality. Yeah, that was really rough. It's it was
1:51:08
Speaker 1: such a good fit from arn and good like Ajvanessa
1:51:11
Speaker 1: crashes down like I thought it was a stop. I
1:51:14
Speaker 1: jumped out of out of my seat. I was yes.
1:51:16
Speaker 1: And then like you said, when he march just carries
1:51:18
Speaker 1: him forward. Good call there on. You know, different sites
1:51:22
Speaker 1: are different. On next Gen, they are eighth in yards
1:51:28
Speaker 1: before contact per attempt at one point oh three, which
1:51:31
Speaker 1: is fine their top ten. That's good and a significant improvement.
1:51:35
Speaker 1: Last year they were one of the worst teams in
1:51:36
Speaker 1: the league at yards before contact again because they were
1:51:39
Speaker 1: getting blown off the ball like this year. But to
1:51:40
Speaker 1: your point, yeah, they are dead last and rush yards
1:51:43
Speaker 1: after contact per attempt, as I mentioned, I didn't mention
1:51:46
Speaker 1: the official yards, but they're at four point three yards
1:51:50
Speaker 1: after contact per attempt on the rush, which is significantly
1:51:54
Speaker 1: worse than the Falcons who are at three point seven
1:51:56
Speaker 1: to six. And that four point three is historically the
1:51:59
Speaker 1: worst mark in the last like eight seasons as far
1:52:02
Speaker 1: back as I can go with next Gen, which is crazy. Yeah,
1:52:04
Speaker 1: they're just and as Ali says the coaches can't make
1:52:08
Speaker 1: guys tacklers, it's pathetic, and they say, yeah, dead last
1:52:12
Speaker 1: time mile. Absolutely, Yeah. I do think there's something to
1:52:15
Speaker 1: be said for not to oversimplify it, because I do
1:52:18
Speaker 1: think there's a science to run fits and being in
1:52:20
Speaker 1: your right gap at the right time, at everybody doing
1:52:22
Speaker 1: their job and being a good tackler. But so much
1:52:25
Speaker 1: about run defense tackling, but run defense in general. And
1:52:29
Speaker 1: players have also told me this when I've asked them
1:52:31
Speaker 1: about it, and you'll hear coaches talk about it too.
1:52:33
Speaker 1: So much of it is just a mentality. You have
1:52:34
Speaker 1: to want to stop the run, you have to want
1:52:37
Speaker 1: to run through a blocker, you have to want to
1:52:39
Speaker 1: tackle somebody. Yes, there's technique, same foot, same shoulder wrap up,
1:52:43
Speaker 1: you know if you want to do the alligator type deal,
1:52:46
Speaker 1: or you know where you're putting your head, where you're
1:52:47
Speaker 1: putting you shoulder. There's new age. Before it used to
1:52:49
Speaker 1: be get three quarters your body in front of the guy.
1:52:52
Speaker 1: So if you're tackling him here, you're putting your head here.
1:52:54
Speaker 1: Now you want to protect the neck and head, so
1:52:56
Speaker 1: you want to put your head back this way so
1:52:57
Speaker 1: you're getting less of your body in front of the ball,
1:52:59
Speaker 1: which leads the more shoulder and arm tackles. So I
1:53:01
Speaker 1: think that naturally leads to more broken tackles and poorer tackling.
1:53:05
Speaker 1: But yeah, they're I think so much of it is
1:53:08
Speaker 1: just technique and a mentality. You have to want to tackle,
1:53:11
Speaker 1: and you have to want to play run defense. And
1:53:13
Speaker 1: I'm not saying the Bills don't, but oh, they're just
1:53:16
Speaker 1: so bad in so many areas of it. Oh, I
1:53:19
Speaker 1: love this from Ali. Ali says, Yeah, I need to
1:53:20
Speaker 1: get some rugby coaches in to help these guys tackle.
1:53:22
Speaker 1: You're seeing that across the board that the rugby style
1:53:25
Speaker 1: of tackling. What I mentioned now is the rugby style
1:53:29
Speaker 1: like football style is, you know, if the ball carrier
1:53:31
Speaker 1: is running this way, Football style is get three quarters
1:53:33
Speaker 1: of your body here and get in front of a
1:53:35
Speaker 1: Rugby style is the opposite. Guys going this way, you're
1:53:38
Speaker 1: putting only just your shoulder here because you don't have
1:53:40
Speaker 1: a helmet. You at most you have like a scrum cap.
1:53:42
Speaker 1: You're trying to protect your head and your neck, your shoulders,
1:53:45
Speaker 1: you're trying to protect against all that type of stuff,
1:53:48
Speaker 1: and you have to wrap up you can't just deliver
1:53:50
Speaker 1: shoulder tackles in rugby. You'll get carded for that. So
1:53:53
Speaker 1: everything is about wrapping up, being sound, you know, same foot,
1:53:58
Speaker 1: same shoulder, head to the right side, getting your angles right,
1:54:03
Speaker 1: wrapping up, bringing down with force, hitting the right target zone,
1:54:06
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. Yeah, I love that comment.
1:54:07
Speaker 1: I love that comment. Love that comment. Well, don Ollie,
1:54:10
Speaker 1: appreciate you being here. Yeah. So the struggles for this offense,
1:54:15
Speaker 1: I said it even during the Dolphins game when they
1:54:17
Speaker 1: won in Week three, I think that was when they
1:54:19
Speaker 1: won thirty one twenty one. You saw that stretch where
1:54:23
Speaker 1: they were struggling to move the ball offensively and they
1:54:25
Speaker 1: got saved by that roughing the punter and they won
1:54:28
Speaker 1: that game by ten. But you saw where the defense
1:54:31
Speaker 1: was just playing zone and they were like go ahead,
1:54:33
Speaker 1: like go ahead, try and try and be just like
1:54:37
Speaker 1: we don't think you can do anything for a chunk play,
1:54:39
Speaker 1: so we're just gonna keep everything in front of us.
1:54:40
Speaker 1: And the Bills started to struggle, and that's just been amplified.
1:54:43
Speaker 1: If they can't run the ball, they're almost dead in
1:54:46
Speaker 1: the water because they don't have a passing game that
1:54:48
Speaker 1: works well in structure and presents threats on the outside
1:54:52
Speaker 1: and or vertical, and it's scary and it's worrisome, and
1:54:56
Speaker 1: it happened last year and they tried to fix it,
1:55:00
Speaker 1: which made you think, Okay, well, they're definitely gonna try
1:55:03
Speaker 1: and fix it going into this year, especially with a
1:55:06
Speaker 1: full season of tape on your offense and a full
1:55:08
Speaker 1: season of studying that defenses and opponents did nope. And
1:55:13
Speaker 1: you know what's a really interesting point too. I mean,
1:55:15
Speaker 1: everybody in their mother kind of knows they're predictable at
1:55:17
Speaker 1: this point now, But going back and earlier into the year,
1:55:20
Speaker 1: it was like you notice teams that had more time
1:55:22
Speaker 1: to study the Bills were gaming them up like well,
1:55:25
Speaker 1: like what the Falcons did because they came off their
1:55:27
Speaker 1: by what the Patriots did, because they've seen them a
1:55:29
Speaker 1: bunch and Rabel has experienced against them a bit, albeit
1:55:31
Speaker 1: albeit in different forms. But you saw teams kind of
1:55:34
Speaker 1: coming out that have had extra time being able to
1:55:36
Speaker 1: scout the Bills and see what's up. That's why I
1:55:38
Speaker 1: think also think when they played New England later in
1:55:40
Speaker 1: the year, they've they've seen them already once this year,
1:55:42
Speaker 1: and I think New England's coming off of bye the
1:55:44
Speaker 1: week before they played the Bills, So you need to
1:55:51
Speaker 1: limit your predictability because it's gouging you in a multitude
1:55:56
Speaker 1: of fashions. And yeah, let me see, let me see.
1:55:59
Speaker 1: Are they am I crazy? Hold on? Oh yeah. The
1:56:05
Speaker 1: Pats play the Giants this upcoming week and then they
1:56:07
Speaker 1: have a buy and they play the Bills. So the
1:56:09
Speaker 1: Pats have already seen the Bills once and they get
1:56:11
Speaker 1: an extra week to prepare. So if you have any
1:56:15
Speaker 1: type of predictability, they've already seen you once and they
1:56:18
Speaker 1: have the extra week to prepare. You're just seeing so
1:56:20
Speaker 1: many teams kind of figure this Bill's offense out, and
1:56:24
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, they're not doing any of the most basic,
1:56:28
Speaker 1: easy access things that they can to kind of pivot
1:56:31
Speaker 1: and break tendency to flip scripts. They're just not I
1:56:35
Speaker 1: don't think they necessarily have the personnel that it And
1:56:38
Speaker 1: this is where the frustrating part comes in. It's part
1:56:41
Speaker 1: of personnel issue, it's part a schematic and coaching issue,
1:56:44
Speaker 1: and it's part of Josh Allen issue. It's all the things.
1:56:46
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's not playing great ball. He also doesn't have
1:56:49
Speaker 1: a great supporting cast to throw it the way I
1:56:51
Speaker 1: think this offense needs to And I also don't think
1:56:54
Speaker 1: Joe Brady is maximizing the pieces that he does have.
1:56:58
Speaker 1: Tying into that, Brandon Cooks started watching his tape a
1:57:01
Speaker 1: little bit. He's not the downfield guy that he was.
1:57:04
Speaker 1: Majority of his stuff is like short and underneath it's
1:57:06
Speaker 1: like slants and crossers and some days and inbreakers ther
1:57:10
Speaker 1: crossers that turn into hitches, like over the ball type
1:57:12
Speaker 1: sit route type of deals. I think he's a good
1:57:15
Speaker 1: route runner. He routed up Cole Bishop in the Saints
1:57:19
Speaker 1: game earlier this year where Ratler just threw it a
1:57:21
Speaker 1: little short. It was initially ruled a touchdown and then
1:57:23
Speaker 1: they looked at it and decided decided it wasn't. He
1:57:26
Speaker 1: had a couple good nice routes running aginst Seattle and
1:57:28
Speaker 1: against the Bucks. I'm not against adding Brandon Cooks. I
1:57:35
Speaker 1: don't know how much it moves the needle. I also,
1:57:37
Speaker 1: at this point, unfortunately, I don't really have much faith
1:57:40
Speaker 1: in Joe Brady to use who he's got. Like I
1:57:43
Speaker 1: said earlier, I don't think Elijah Moore and Curtis Samuel
1:57:46
Speaker 1: or world beaters and the answers that the Bills need.
1:57:49
Speaker 1: But I also think that Joe Brady is under utilizing
1:57:51
Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel and Elijah Moore. Now Samuel's been hurt, and
1:57:54
Speaker 1: maybe there's stuff going on behind the scenes that I
1:57:56
Speaker 1: don't know. But I'm for the brand Cook's edition because
1:58:01
Speaker 1: why not. I mean, at this point, I don't want
1:58:04
Speaker 1: to sound drastic. Beggars can't be choosers, but I am.
1:58:12
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not overly hopeful. I think you know, he
1:58:15
Speaker 1: can help, you know, get him on the move a
1:58:17
Speaker 1: little bit. I don't think he's necessarily an X like
1:58:20
Speaker 1: they can need. I think he can do some release stuff,
1:58:22
Speaker 1: but I don't want him seeing a ton of press.
1:58:24
Speaker 1: Get him on the move, let him work, See if
1:58:27
Speaker 1: you can stress the field a little bit with him.
1:58:28
Speaker 1: But I think he's more just gonna win with his route,
1:58:30
Speaker 1: running kind of in the seams and outside a little bit.
1:58:32
Speaker 1: I think he can, you know, do some stuff, but
1:58:34
Speaker 1: we'll see. I just and maybe it's me just kind
1:58:37
Speaker 1: of being I don't think I'm being a prisoner of
1:58:38
Speaker 1: the moment actually at all. I just I don't think Brad.
1:58:42
Speaker 1: I don't think they have a ton of talent at
1:58:43
Speaker 1: wide receiver now or a ton of bucket getters. But
1:58:46
Speaker 1: that being said, I still don't think Brady is maximizing
1:58:48
Speaker 1: the value of the guys that he has in the
1:58:50
Speaker 1: wide receiver room, so I think Cooks fits in that perfectly.
1:58:55
Speaker 1: I don't think he's this bucket getter that he used
1:58:57
Speaker 1: to be, but I also don't have faith and Brady
1:59:01
Speaker 1: to maximize him right now, So it's rough. What's up, Brad?
1:59:06
Speaker 1: Brad Ah, I feel like I don't know if you
1:59:09
Speaker 1: did it from earlier because I said it, I liked it,
1:59:11
Speaker 1: and then the handles changed. Now now I can see
1:59:13
Speaker 1: the capitals and it makes it. Yes, Brad at guitar,
1:59:15
Speaker 1: thank you very much for still being here thinking for
1:59:16
Speaker 1: the super chet, Brad says, Assuming Brady goes, who catches
1:59:20
Speaker 1: your interest as an OC, it's tough, right because the
1:59:23
Speaker 1: good ocs that you like now are probably going to
1:59:27
Speaker 1: get head coaching job somewhere, like Clint Kobiak from Seattle,
1:59:31
Speaker 1: who I really like. I think he's probably gonna get
1:59:34
Speaker 1: some head coaching opportunities or calls or something, and if not,
1:59:36
Speaker 1: he's probably not gonna want to leave Seattle. So you're
1:59:38
Speaker 1: not going to get somebody like that, So you're looking
1:59:40
Speaker 1: at somebody who likely gets fired, and then who do
1:59:45
Speaker 1: you like do you bring them in? I'm going to
1:59:48
Speaker 1: say this, and I don't know if people would hate this,
1:59:49
Speaker 1: but I think would work really well. I want someone
1:59:53
Speaker 1: from the Shanahan or the McVeigh tree, as I'm sure
1:59:55
Speaker 1: a lot of folks do. If Mike McDaniel gets fired,
2:00:00
Speaker 1: I want Mike McDaniel from Miami. Don't yell at me.
2:00:04
Speaker 1: I don't know if that necessarily worked, from like a
2:00:06
Speaker 1: mind's standpoint, if you know him and McDermott, how they'd
2:00:09
Speaker 1: get along, what that would look like. But I love
2:00:11
Speaker 1: the idea of Sean McDermott being the head coach and
2:00:15
Speaker 1: running the defense and Mike McDaniel just gets to run
2:00:19
Speaker 1: the offense. Yes, McDermott probably gives some input, but I
2:00:22
Speaker 1: think you get an opportunity just to be like, hey,
2:00:27
Speaker 1: run this side of the ball. I think McDaniel could
2:00:30
Speaker 1: do it. I would. I don't know McDermott will let
2:00:33
Speaker 1: him do it, you know, a fair question to ask.
2:00:37
Speaker 1: But I think his run game stuff in Miami was underrated,
2:00:41
Speaker 1: and I think his type of offense that's designed to
2:00:44
Speaker 1: like create these open windows and how Allen's skillset would
2:00:47
Speaker 1: fit into that. I would like that very much. So
2:00:51
Speaker 1: that's my that's my viewpoint and or not viewpoint. That's
2:00:54
Speaker 1: my pick. And I'm still saying it because I think
2:00:56
Speaker 1: I think Miami kind of falters a bit down the
2:00:58
Speaker 1: stretch and then if he gets fired, that kind of
2:01:03
Speaker 1: lines up. That's really who you're hoping at, because anybody
2:01:05
Speaker 1: who's like a good hot OC right now is probably
2:01:08
Speaker 1: either gonna stay with their team and or get a
2:01:11
Speaker 1: head coaching opportunity and isn't like so they're either gonna
2:01:13
Speaker 1: get a head coaching spot or they're gonna stay where
2:01:15
Speaker 1: they are. They're not gonna leave to be you know,
2:01:17
Speaker 1: they're not gonna leave being in OC to go be
2:01:18
Speaker 1: an OC somewhere else. So you either need to get
2:01:21
Speaker 1: somebody who's a QB coach somewhere, somebody who is a
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Speaker 1: good offensive mind or head coach and gets fired like
2:01:26
Speaker 1: a Robert reverse Robert Solad situation where he was a
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Speaker 1: you know, head coach, got fired now he's the Niners DC.
2:01:34
Speaker 1: I would take Mike McDaniel and that is my vote.
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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna continue to go that that route. But
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Speaker 1: even if it's not him, give me somebody from from
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Speaker 1: the Shanahan McVeigh tree, Like, that's where I'm at at
2:01:45
Speaker 1: this point. I need that I haven't. Ali, I saw
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Speaker 1: your comment. I have in Washington on Iowa State actually
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Speaker 1: know what I have watched in my Iowa state. Huh,
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Speaker 1: that's interesting. I'd have to scour more from a college
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Speaker 1: coach sandpoint, but I would like more of a pro
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Speaker 1: established name already. We'll see, we'll see. That's a very
2:02:07
Speaker 1: good question. I like that. Oh that's fun. That's fun.
2:02:10
Speaker 1: That's fun. That's fun. Oh, Ali, you're saying the Rams
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Speaker 1: passing game. I don't know why. I thought. I thought
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Speaker 1: somebody said mention something from Iowa State in here. Yeah,
2:02:21
Speaker 1: I'm always very well, you know what, No, because I
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Speaker 1: know I know how much I see, even the stuff
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Speaker 1: with like Liam Cohen, and I know how much like
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Speaker 1: the pass game coordinators and even everybody who does the
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Speaker 1: grunt work, like how much they learn under McVeigh. That
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Speaker 1: would be fair to say I would welcome that. I
2:02:38
Speaker 1: would welcome that the Rams pass game coordinator, I would say,
2:02:43
Speaker 1: I got to dive into I'm so bad at like
2:02:46
Speaker 1: knowing who the position coaches are, like those type of
2:02:49
Speaker 1: roles for the teams like, I watch so much tape
2:02:52
Speaker 1: and very rarely am I like, oh yeah, this guy's
2:02:53
Speaker 1: the running backs coach. This guy is the wide receivers
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Speaker 1: coach and pass game coordinator. But I would welcome that
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Speaker 1: he was at Iowa State. That's that's why I'm thinking that. Okay,
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Speaker 1: cool cause you said that and I saw the name,
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Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm not crazy. Thank you think
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Speaker 1: you think you? Thank you? He was an Iowa State
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Speaker 1: last year. Right, I'm not crazy. I'm looking him up.
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Speaker 1: You're probably going to beat this to me before I
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Speaker 1: even get there. Bum bum ba ah yeah Nay Shieldhouse,
2:03:24
Speaker 1: Yeah right, I'm not crazy. No, he was. I was
2:03:26
Speaker 1: taking twenty twenty three. That's the year I'm thinking of.
2:03:28
Speaker 1: Everything's kind of blurring together. That's fair, that's fair. I
2:03:33
Speaker 1: like that idea. I like that idea. Yeah, I would
2:03:37
Speaker 1: be down for that. Anybody who's tied to that tree,
2:03:39
Speaker 1: give it to me, give it to me, Give it
2:03:40
Speaker 1: to me. Ali, you're crushing in the comments this year
2:03:42
Speaker 1: or this episode. I like that very much. That's really cool. Yeah,
2:03:45
Speaker 1: And so that's the fair point to you're saying he's
2:03:47
Speaker 1: going to get a job as an OC somewhere soon.
2:03:49
Speaker 1: That's the type of deal too, right, So you're either
2:03:50
Speaker 1: getting someone who's a head coach or who's an OC
2:03:55
Speaker 1: on a team where the head coach is going to
2:03:57
Speaker 1: get fired so they're out of a job, or you're
2:04:00
Speaker 1: looking to grab somebody who is a current QB coach,
2:04:05
Speaker 1: pass game coordinator, something like that, and that way you
2:04:08
Speaker 1: can pluck them and have them get a promotion. That's
2:04:11
Speaker 1: super fair. I like that. And yeah, last little piece
2:04:15
Speaker 1: on Cooks, I think it's a fine addition. I don't
2:04:18
Speaker 1: think he's the bucket getter that they need it wide receiver.
2:04:21
Speaker 1: I don't think adding him hurts. You know, at this point,
2:04:24
Speaker 1: beggers can't be choosers, and you miss one hundred percent
2:04:27
Speaker 1: of the shots you don't take. Wayne Gretzky, Michael Scott.
2:04:30
Speaker 1: But I don't have a ton of faith in Brady
2:04:31
Speaker 1: right now because there's there's there's buttons that Brady could
2:04:34
Speaker 1: be pushing and could have been pushing to help this
2:04:36
Speaker 1: offense and he's not. So I just I'm really frustrated
2:04:40
Speaker 1: with him, and I'm even more frustrated with the defense,
2:04:43
Speaker 1: and it's annoying. You know something, I'm not frustrated with
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Speaker 1: frustrations around the team, but we went long in this
2:09:14
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Speaker 1: thank you all for providing that. I hope you all
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Speaker 1: hopefully if you get it. If you're off on Thursday
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