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Superman (2025) | ABJ Podcast (NCIHS) · ABJ

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  What is going on, everybody? And welcome back to the ABJ
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  podcast. Not cool in high school edition.
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  You're home for deep dives, nerd confessions, and cinematic
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  universes so messy that they need therapy.
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  Today's episode is going to be based on Superman 2025.
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  Not just a movie, but James gonna attempt to reset
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  everything. We're talking lore, symbolism,
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  politics and hope. Before we begin, this is this is
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  this episode. It may not be suitable for
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  children. We discuss intense combat,
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  global conflict, morality, moral, Oh my goodness, moral,
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  moral compass issues and emotional trauma.
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  And yes, this one's not safe for work unless you're a journalism
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  or an alien diplomatacy. So yeah, we may say some stuff
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  or say some craziness. So bear with us, hang out with
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  us. This is this content is made for
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  people 18 plus, but I guess if you have parents who let you
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  listen to this, cool for you. We're not going to go too crazy,
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  but I'll put the warning out there just in case.
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  All right, Cape on heart open and let's fly.
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  So I'm joined today by my guest and the owner of High Tension
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  Wrestling Network and Wrestling, Alex the Kilowatt.
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  What's going on, Bud? What's going on man 1, I
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  appreciate that you just gave me the permission to go off the
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  rails. Yeah, I mean, that goes without
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  saying. You are on the ABJ podcast Last
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  time you were on here a long, long time ago.
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  The first time. You talked about fisting or your
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  girlfriend getting fisted. So anything is and that's and
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  we're out of the gate. This is we're we're 2 minutes in
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  and we already. Talked about some people want to
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  be worn like a muppet. That's cool.
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  Yeah, imagine Superman doing that.
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  The lowest, terrible, terrible stuff.
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  All right, so let's dive into this.
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  Let's get into our first segment here and why this movie matters.
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  The DC Cinematic Universe has its rocky history, multiple
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  reboots, tonal whiplash, fan fatigue.
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  Superman 2025 arrives not only as a hopeful add on, but as a
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  foundation stone for this new franchise.
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  James Gunn isn't just directing, he's world building.
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  He says this is our starting point.
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  This film exists in a clean slate, disregarding most of the
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  previous DC continuity except threads he deems strong enough
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  to carry forward. At its core, it's about faith
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  and heroes and people and storytelling.
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  It's it asks can we believe again?
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  So I guess my first question to you from your first thoughts,
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  does Superman without spoilers or anything just yet, does
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  Superman 2025 feel like a new beginning or just another re
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  thread in the spandex? No.
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  If it feels completely different than anything we've ever gotten
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  before, it feels completely disconnected to the former DCEU.
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  It feels different than the Greg Berlanti's CW universe.
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  It just, it feels to me like the comic book come to life.
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  It it feels like it's ready to explore new territories with a
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  vintage costume in a sense like that like filter, because like,
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  visually it looks like a comic book to me.
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  It's beautiful. But yeah, I think this is
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  something completely new. I'm I'm a big fan.
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  Yeah, I feel like the DC Universe for the longest time
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  was kind of in the boat of Marvel.
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  We're back in the day, Marvel made movies, but they weren't
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  allowed to play or they weren't allowed to touch each other, or
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  one movie company owned this, or one person owned the rights to
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  this character, and this character wasn't allowed to be
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  used unless this like, you know what I mean?
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  And DC had a ton of Batman movies, a ton of Superman movies
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  never crossed paths, like, you know what I mean?
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  Everyone kind of stayed in their own lanes, but X Snyder gave us
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  a little bit of that. And then people are like, either
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  you absolutely love the Snyder verse or you hate it.
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  I'm someone who loved it. I.
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  I'm in between. Yeah, I think it sucks that what
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  I love in the Siner universe is things that I had to dive deep
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  dive and do fan fiction and be more of an insider because not
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  everything that was shown on screen was good.
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  Suicide Squad not a great movie, but if you listen to Zack
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  Snyder's like, hey, this, this, this, this was all cut from the
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  movie. And there's a whole nother cut
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  of that Suicide Squad like you're.
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  Like so David Ayers took on the first Suicide Squad movie and
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  there was a whole lot more Joker and Harley to it that just got
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  ripped. And WB has a history of its
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  executives coming and being like, no and and just stripping
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  a director of his creative freedom.
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  So somewhere out there, there's a David Ayers cut that promises
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  to be a far superior movie that we're never going to get to see.
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  Yeah. And then we kind of had that
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  with Justice League. Well, Batman VS Superman.
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  And then we've seen that uncut version and we're like, wait a
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  second, this is a different movie.
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  Then we Justice League and it was bad.
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  And then just the the Snyder Cut of that.
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  And then he threw in the fucking nightmare scene, which we were
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  like, this DC Universe would have been unbelievable.
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  And I wish it was so true to the comic book fans, but also gave
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  the cinematic universe its own feel.
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  And it was beautiful and we never got it.
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  I wish I could say that like, sorry, I wish I could say that
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  that wasn't a Zack Snyder trend, but take it all the way back to
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  Watchmen Director's Cut. Longer and far superior, way
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  more character stuff and fanservice.
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  And then you get the Unfortunately, Justice League
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  was mainly due to his kid died and then Joss Whedon had to pick
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  up the pieces. Well.
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  The DC also kind of fucked him over.
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  They were in they. Were trying to get rid of.
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  Him and they were trying to get rid of him and then use his kids
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  death to fire him which sucks. Right, right.
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  But his cut was far superior. But like, in general, my problem
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  with the Snyder versus, I think it was trying to take the lead
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  of the Christopher Nolan Dark Knight series.
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  And everybody's want to be like, well, RDC universe got to be
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  dark. And I don't think it has to be
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  dark to be deep. And I think that's what James
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  Gunn is proving like. Not to jump ahead to Peacemaker
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  Season 2, but once you get there, it's it's bright, but
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  it's deep as hell. Yeah, I, I, I think even
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  watching Superman it, I think they did a good job of
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  portraying Superman and what Superman is just in wrestling
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  terms. If you're a wrestling fan, if
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  you I'm sorry, I love that you'll love this.
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  But if you're not a wrestling fan, you may not get this, but
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  the golden face, babyface, golden child, good boy.
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  Superman is boring to me. And I always wanted him with a
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  little bit of edge, with a little bit of humor, a little
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  bit of just not so straight laced.
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  And James Gunn, I will get more into a little bit more him in
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  his moment here. But he I feel like he founds
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  finds a way with Guardians of the Galaxy to still make it deep
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  and feel like as an adult, you're not being your
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  intelligence is being insulted by watching a comic book kids
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  movie where it could be like there's some underlying tones
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  and there's some visuals and there's some emotion here, but
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  it's still at the end of the day, can still be consumed by
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  children. And I think James Gunn is the
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  perfect person to pluck out of that because DC wants Marvel
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  movies. They want they want the people
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  to take over their movies who make them feel more like Marvel,
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  but also still give them the edge of DCI.
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  Think James Gunn so far in this first Superman movie knocks it
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  out of the park. I.
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  Agree. All right, well, let's get into
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  our next segment here. Visuals, tone and directional
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  style. So one of the one of the films
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  triumphs is how how it looks and feels.
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  Henry Brahms. I hope I said this name
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  correctly. I'm trying to get better with
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  this. Cinematography bathes in
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  Smallville in golden golden wheat fields.
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  Sunsets and Metropolis gleam like stained glass.
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  Every frame feels lived in and textured Guns.
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  Pacing is intentional where he leaves quiet moments to breathe.
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  Clark reading Lois investigating the hum in the fortress before
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  unleashing A spectacle. He doesn't gangster suede
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  viewers within CGI at all, at all, at all times.
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  But when it hits, it hits hard. The music by John Murphy is in a
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  character in itself. It swells in hope quite
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  introspect and occasionally a a sting of loneliness.
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  It references classic Superman motifs, but just just just when
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  it's enough it to feel fresh. How did the movie for you look
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  and sound pacing land and also the pacing land for you?
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  Did it feel modern and classic or somewhere in between?
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  So immediately, and I went to see this in the theaters, it
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  just you fade in on this beautifully bright white snowy
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  landscape. And one of the things about the
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  film that plays into the pacing that you expect in every origin
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  story or superhero film is to go back to an origin story.
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  We don't need that with Superman.
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  He's so prolific, right? So we have we have, I think I
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  think so, at least at this point, you know, but you have
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  you have the opening sequence that gives you the 3333, you
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  know, this many years ago he showed up.
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  He was raised by whoever, you know, three years ago he showed
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  up in the in the the scene now 3 minutes ago, he just had his ass
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  handed to him and here we are. Boom, we're ready to jump into
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  the movie. And you're, you're immediately
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  jolted by the color of bright red blood staining this bright
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  white pristine like landscape. And he's like he's, he's beaten.
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  This is all in the trailer, so this is nothing that we're.
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  Ruining No, this is not a spoiler, but it's it's it
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  immediately grasp you with it. The, the color and, and the
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  depth of like how far this movie is willing to go and the changes
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  that this movie has like instilled in the lore of
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  Superman, which is that like he, he's a bit more vulnerable.
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  Yeah, I totally agree. I thought the music was done
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  really well. I thought the visual was good.
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  A part of me says there's a few characters that we don't need
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  origin stories ever again with with they've been beaten to
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  death, Superman being 1, Batman being another, Spider Man being
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  another. Like they're the main three.
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  I don't think we ever need an origin story forever again.
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  But then this movie comes out and people are like, Superman's
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  woke. This movie's woke.
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  It's trying to be something it's not.
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  And I go no, this is a Superman movie.
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  If even going back to Superman comics, it talked about real
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  world thing and inserted Superman in the things that were
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  happening in real life. Superman fought Nazis.
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  Superman was part of World War Two in the comics.
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  Like. Superman was created by Jewish
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  comic book writers in the in spite of of Nazi Germany.
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  So like there's nothing woke about that and it was created.
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  By Jewish writers because they wish they had a person who
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  embodied what Superman was to save them to feel like they had
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  someone to protect them and Superman embodies this for a
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  Middle Eastern country of like no, we're not going to fight
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  we're going to hold our ground and Superman will save us like
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  that little kid like kind of showing the trailer of the
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  little kid holding up his flag and just being like Superman
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  save us that's an ode to the writers saying please Superman
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  like we we wish right now in today's time we had a.
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  Superman so like and and that's that is back when Superman was
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  created and the parallels of and I don't know how political you
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  like to get here, but you can get right right now the
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  parallels to the time when this was created and right now with
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  Israel and Gaza it's. And Lex Luthor making deals.
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  It's it's Yeah. Well, it, it really is.
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  And this movie was made a little bit before all that popped off,
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  but it's been popping off for many years prior to it came to a
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  head recently. But it is, it's a parallel, the
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  Boravian Empire trying to invade the Jar Hampor.
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  It's, it's, it is Israel, Palestine.
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  That's what we can relate it to. Now.
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  That's not woke. It's contemporary.
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  It's, it's, it's our history. And that that is what art is.
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  It's a reflection of our real experience.
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  You know, I mean, it's, it's an artistic expression of that.
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  So no, it's not woke. And then the slogan for a lot of
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  the movie is kindness is punk rock, you know, and kindness is
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  an awoke concept. It's there are unfortunately
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  people of a certain political landscape that wants you to
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  think that kindness is woke and it's just.
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  Kindness and empathy are bad for this country.
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  But they're they're they're actually a superpower.
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  And, and when people who oppress others take those strengths and
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  make you feel like their weaknesses were shameful, you
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  lose your power. So embracing your kindness and
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  your empathy and things like that, like in our real life,
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  those are our superpowers. And that is what Superman truly
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  represents. Hope, empathy, kindness.
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  Yeah, I, I, I thought, I thought this world was fantastic.
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  The tone of the setting, everything they built.
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  Is it, is it the just to kind of add one more question here
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  before we move on. Is it the best fortress of
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  solitude we've seen on screen? Non animated?
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  I'd say so. Yeah, it seems smaller, but it
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  it, but I I feel like that's. Good.
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  We haven't explored it because like it, it just appears.
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  We get, you know, the basically we're just in the living room.
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  Yeah, comic book wise, that thing's a freaking museum.
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  It's massive. There's a whole zoo in that
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  thing. So, yeah, I don't, I don't know.
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  I don't know how big it is, but I very much, I enjoyed that.
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  I enjoyed the Superman robots. Alan Todiak with with the comic
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  gold of basically being I'm, I'm a robot.
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  I don't have feelings. But then suggesting that you
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  name him Gary is just beautifully hilarious.
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  And then the star of the show is Crypto.
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  Yeah. Maybe maybe crypto is good, but
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  let's get into that. So let's get the cast in
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  chemistry and supporting world. So David, the guy who plays I'm
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  I'm not in corners with how do you say his last name?
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  Corin Sweat Corin's wet. Yeah, it's like.
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  Wet. His performance is rooted in
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  quiet strength. He doesn't rely on grand
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  monologues. He acts with his eyes, restraint
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  and humility. Rachel Brosnan's Lois is the
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  film's conscious, razor sharp, emotionally grounded, brave.
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  She's not a damsel in distress. She's a force.
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  Nicholas Holtz. Lex Luthor doesn't wear a
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  villains mask, but he wears the business suit.
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  He's a menace. He's intellect and he's social
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  currency. It's just not it it it, it's it.
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  Not just it bombs. He's, he's unbelievable.
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  And the supporting cast we're, we're not just set dressing
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  other people in here, but the supporting cast.
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  I won't go through all the actors names 'cause I can't
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  pronounce that for them. But the people who play Mr.
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  Terrific, Mr. I mean, Green Lantern, Hawk Girl, Crypto, so
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  many other people in this movie, Jimmy Olsen.
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  I'm, I've always forget the actor's name, who plays Jimmy
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  Olsen, but unbelievable. The film populates this world
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  richly. We see newspaper staffers, We
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  see background signs for Big Belly Burger and Jitters and
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  jitter billboards referencing old comics.
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  They grounded the the grounded detail makes Metropolis feel
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  lived in. What's supporting our background
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  detail pulled you in A side character, a signpost, or a
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  small beat that felt larger than life or richer than life?
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  I mean, I think I'm just going to dive into characters and how
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  they moved me. Man, David Corn sweat as
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  Superman. Like I I never thought that
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  Christopher Reeves would be knocked out of my top running
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  spot and half halfway through this movie, I'm just like, this
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  dude gets it. He has the look of him.
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  What's the guy who played the last one?
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  Shit, I'm. Terrible.
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  Henry Cavill. Henry can he has the look of
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  Cavill like he has a Superman look, but I thought the tone
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  that he brought was way better. Like I just I'm not a Superman
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  fan. For preview, watch this.
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  I am. I've always have been kind of
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  like I respect Superman. Superman's like my Bret Hart.
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  I understand Superman is the OG. He's the reason we have
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  superheroes. He's the first written superhero
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  in comic books. He is the Godfather, he is the
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  daddy, he is God. But his character just never
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  responded well to me and this and and and his version of
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  Superman is my all. Now I haven't really went back
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  and watched the original Superman just because I was so
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  disconnected. I think the very first Superman
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  film I ever watched was Man of Steel.
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  And I, I enjoyed it. I thought it was a fine movie,
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  but it wasn't like it still was exactly what it was.
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  It was a Superman movie, this movie unreal.
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  Like I was just like, I like this guy.
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  I like their I like what they built.
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  I thought Lois was fantastic. Jimmy Olsen was fantastic.
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  Let's lose. I like a smaller Lex Luthor.
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  I don't like the big Jack version of Lex because I like
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  the idea of almost like pro wrestling where he almost plays
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  the villain but manager role where he's not really going to
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  lock in and fistfight, but he's going to beat you with his mind,
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  his intellect and his power. And that's what kind of keeps
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  Superman's restraints and because he can't just go knock
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  him out, you know what I mean? But when he finally does, you're
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  like, good, fuck this guy, finally got what's coming to
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  him, you know what I mean? And I like the dynamic of that
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  scrawny little shit that has to get his, get his.
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  Own that the there's a quote at the end of the movie that I
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  like. No spoilers man.
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  But like when he says Brain beats Braun, it's just like, Oh
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  yes, this is Lex Luthor, man, this is Lex Luthor that for me,
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  he's the closest to like a Justice League Unlimited cartoon
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  Lex Luthor that we've ever gotten.
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  It just feels so good that like, I believe he's brilliant.
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  You know, Gene Hackman and Michael Rosenbaum were probably
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  my favorites before this. Smallville's Michael Rosenbaum I
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  think was awesome until they ruined the story at like Season
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  7. He he was amazing but Nicholas
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  Holt stole the show for me man. Because the reason I fell in
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  love with Superman is because of Lex Luthor.
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  He was such a good villain that he brought out the best in the
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  hero. You know what's hilarious?
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  Kind of getting political again. I remember growing up listening
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  to like Howard Stern and being a giant Howard Stern fan, but also
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  being a nerdy comic book guy who watched the DC animated universe
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  and everything like that. And I remember like, I would
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  listen to Donald Trump. And I was like, this guy's Lex
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  Luthor. Like if if you know anything
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  about comic books, he's Lex Luthor.
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  He's the rich billionaire who is only out for himself.
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  And if you give him power, he's going to abuse it.
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  And then he becomes president, which is hilarious.
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  Because Lex does. That in the comic books, you
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  know what I'm saying? That's fair.
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  I would love, I'd love to sit here and say that Donald Trump
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  isn't smart, but look what he's done.
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  You know what I mean? Or.
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  He's just really rich and he can just, he has no checks and
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  balances. I mean, there's no
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  accountability. In it, it would be scary if he
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  was smarter. I think that's the only thing
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  going for us is he's not super intelligent.
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  He's not good at hiding it. He's just good at brainwashing
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  people. He's a great manipulator.
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  Yeah, and he he avoids accountability, which is the
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  biggest problem. Yeah, he can lie right to the
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  people's face and half the world knows he's lying, and the other
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  half's like blindly following it.
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  Exactly. It's a scary thing.
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  He's he's, he's, he almost has the the mentality of the Joker,
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  but the business and the money of Lex Luthor, you know what I
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  mean? Like.
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  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, like he's crazy enough to
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  light the money on fire in front of us, but smart enough to be
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  like, I have more money, You know what I mean?
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  Yeah, 100%. The ego is so incredibly
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  unchecked. So then like Lois Lane again,
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  Teri Hatcher was my favorite Lois Lane from the The New
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  Adventures of Lois and Clark, but this girl stole it again,
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  she's not over sexual. She's not sexualized at all in
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  this film, but she's she is the character.
• 21:30
  She's perfect. If you were, you know, a Co
• 21:32
  worker, you'd probably have a crush on her too.
• 21:34
  She's just dope. She gets.
• 21:35
  It and she keeps him in check. She, she's not a she knowing his
• 21:39
  power, knowing he's Superman, but also be like, you're a
• 21:42
  fucking idiot. Like, I know what you're doing
• 21:44
  is right, but in the grand screen of the world, what you're
• 21:46
  doing is so illegal and wrong. Like you have to understand both
• 21:50
  sides of the, the coin here. You don't understand the way the
• 21:52
  world works because you're not from this world.
• 21:55
  All you know is virtue and good and what you're doing is fine,
• 21:58
  but there are checks and balances that you are disrupting
• 22:01
  that's going to cause big problems.
• 22:03
  And she's not afraid to put him in tone and put him in check,
• 22:06
  but also she's not afraid to get her hands dirty if things get
• 22:09
  crazy enough that she has to intervene and put herself in
• 22:11
  there. Which is one thing I've always
• 22:13
  loved about Lois Lane is that she was never afraid to get her
• 22:16
  hands dirty, which is why she's always needed to be saved by
• 22:20
  Superman in the past. But I also love that they don't
• 22:24
  sexualize her in the way that like past Lois Lanes have been
• 22:30
  like fawning over the Superman, but dismissive of the Clark.
• 22:34
  This one's not. She's not like, oh, Superman,
• 22:37
  I'm like wet for you corn sweat for you.
• 22:40
  Like she she is all about like she's in love with Clark because
• 22:45
  that because in this movie, Superman is Clark and we lean
• 22:50
  way more into the humanity of this person, which makes it a
• 22:54
  far better character than it's ever.
• 22:56
  Been it and there's always that there's always that underlying
• 22:59
  tone of Superman of like, what would make Superman turn evil,
• 23:02
  what would make Superman go bad? What would make Superman to be a
• 23:05
  menace or a problem. And it's all almost in every
• 23:07
  single aspect is if he doesn't have Lois.
• 23:11
  Lois is what keeps him grounded, keeps him sane, keeps him from.
• 23:16
  That's not the case here. And it sets a tone though, that
• 23:19
  even in one movie you find how deep and strong their connection
• 23:23
  is, that like if he didn't have her, he could be unchecked and
• 23:27
  unbalanced. Yeah, but so in this one, like
• 23:30
  there's the angle with his birth parents, but then it's his.
• 23:36
  You see that his adoptive parents are really what
• 23:40
  instilled this goodness in him. And then there's some turmoil
• 23:44
  with everything that happens with the storyline, this
• 23:46
  identity crisis. But you're right, Lois Lane has
• 23:49
  that like that world view of like, hey, look, I understand
• 23:54
  what you did over in that other country was morally right.
• 24:01
  But like in reality, things are Gray.
• 24:05
  You know, you you can't just choose what is right and what is
• 24:08
  wrong because you don't get to make that choice.
• 24:11
  And coming from a system of democracy, what our country is
• 24:14
  like, boy, would we would love if Superman existed and he went
• 24:17
  in and just dismantled things that are happening in the world.
• 24:20
  But he all we also need to respect the fact that we have a
• 24:23
  democracy and, and whether we like it or not, half the
• 24:26
  population voted for what we have right now.
• 24:28
  And we have to respect that. And that's a democracy.
• 24:30
  You can't just have someone go above the checks and balances
• 24:34
  and stop what's happening. When they explore that in this
• 24:37
  movie, which I, I have to say, for me, it's one of the two most
• 24:40
  powerful scenes in this entire movie, and it's very close to
• 24:44
  the beginning, is when you hear what Superman did and how he's
• 24:50
  struggling with that, like, hey, I did the right thing.
• 24:54
  And then she's just like, but did you, man?
• 24:58
  That's deep. It's so deep because we know
• 25:01
  morally what is right and what is just, but we are we, we, we
• 25:06
  just don't have that power to take it into our own hands
• 25:09
  because in a, in a sense, it could be viewed as wrong.
• 25:12
  And it's just, it is the greatest conflict of everybody.
• 25:17
  Imagine if you can save the world, you know the future, but
• 25:20
  you also know that people don't understand why you're doing it,
• 25:23
  what you're doing because you're doing it before it happens.
• 25:26
  Type 2, you know what I mean? All right, well, let's get into
• 25:28
  this next segment. This next segment.
• 25:30
  This is core themes. We're going to still avoid Major
• 25:32
  here, so there isn't a dissection of this.
• 25:35
  Your mic is going crazy. Whatever.
• 25:36
  You're moving. Don't do that no more.
• 25:37
  Yeah. So there is gonna be a section
• 25:42
  of this where we do dive completely in the spoilers, and
• 25:44
  we're gonna do this. So as of right now, you are
• 25:46
  safe. We're not gonna be spoiling
• 25:47
  anything. So this film isn't just about
• 25:51
  strength, it's about responsibility, trust and
• 25:53
  identity. Clark is an outsider who has
• 25:55
  learned to love humanity, not above it, but alongside of it.
• 25:59
  Power without empathy is dangerous.
• 26:01
  So gun frame Superman's greatest challenges, not only defeating
• 26:04
  villains, but earning the trust of the and the worry of trust.
• 26:07
  Earning the trust and the worry of the world.
• 26:10
  It touches on legacy. How can we carry forward what
• 26:14
  what came before? But when the artistic hands try
• 26:17
  to rewrite it also fear, Superman's greatest Achilles
• 26:20
  heel isn't physical. It's the it's that people fear
• 26:23
  what they can't control there. There's also a political edge
• 26:27
  without heavy-handed preaching, intervention versus sovereignty,
• 26:30
  media spin verse truth, heroism verse vigilante or overreach.
• 26:34
  Which one of those themes, identity, trust, legacy are
• 26:38
  resonate the hardest with you and why?
• 26:41
  I think part it has to be the vigilante aspect of it.
• 26:50
  There's a lot of struggles that he has in this film.
• 26:53
  One of them is controlling his impulsive behavior and and
• 26:59
  controlling his emotions. It's when something happens to
• 27:05
  somebody or something that he cares about, he goes off the
• 27:08
  handle. And that kind of stuff is used
• 27:12
  to manipulate him and his public image throughout the the the
• 27:17
  film. But there are parts of the film
• 27:19
  where he's in a crowded space in public and people are kind of
• 27:24
  like looking at him, like, oh, are you different than we
• 27:27
  thought you were? But he maintains like, his
• 27:30
  consistency, like he goes off into a building to process
• 27:34
  rather than processing in public, Like he maintains his
• 27:39
  public appearance until it's otherwise manipulated, You know,
• 27:43
  So I think consistency is very, very important.
• 27:49
  I, I relate very heavily to Superman in this movie because I
• 27:53
  think in certain aspects I see big picture.
• 27:56
  I, I have, I don't know if it's my superpower or a touch of the
• 27:59
  Tiz or my ADHD, but I problem 12 and I can read people very well
• 28:05
  and nine times on the 10, I can tell you where a situation gonna
• 28:08
  go before it gets there. And I'm like Superman.
• 28:11
  I overreach. I say, hey, that's gonna be a
• 28:13
  problem in six months. We should nip it in the butt
• 28:16
  right now. And not everybody sees it.
• 28:19
  And I will stick my fucking neck out to fight a situation that no
• 28:23
  one else sees yet. And I've had to learn to step
• 28:27
  back and don't play the hero until it's needed.
• 28:31
  And you kind of have to let people see what's going to
• 28:34
  happen for before you step in because overreaching and trying
• 28:38
  to figure the problem out before it'll arrives can be your
• 28:42
  detrimental. And it could be your way for
• 28:43
  your enemies to use that against you.
• 28:45
  And and it's kind of like that situation.
• 28:47
  It's like, all right, I'll study you and I'll figure out what
• 28:51
  you're going to do. And I know how to already defeat
• 28:53
  you, but I cannot defeat you until you actually make your
• 28:56
  last move. And this is a reason why the law
• 29:00
  itself is reactive rather than proactive, which is shitty, but
• 29:06
  also like, hey, I'm going to give you props.
• 29:09
  Yeah, you do have that ability and yes, you're always right.
• 29:12
  But what if? Thank.
• 29:14
  You What if on a Superman level you act too soon and you didn't
• 29:22
  have all the information? Yeah, 100%.
• 29:25
  Yeah, and then you become the villain who acted, you know
• 29:29
  what, in what you thought was the best interest, but it
• 29:31
  wasn't, you know? Absolutely no.
• 29:34
  I, I and I've, I've had to learn that myself and, and imagine and
• 29:37
  I, I kind of put myself in the shoes as like, thank God I don't
• 29:41
  have Superman's abilities because I would have, I would
• 29:44
  have Thanos stabbed people from the like problem by and then
• 29:48
  people like, why did you do that?
• 29:49
  You're a tyrant. I'm like, no, no, no, trust me,
• 29:52
  something you don't know what's going to happen in six months.
• 29:54
  I just saved you a lot of heartache and.
• 29:55
  They're like. No, you can't do that.
• 29:58
  You know what I mean? Like.
• 29:59
  Trust me, it's a minority report situation.
• 30:04
  I've. Doctor Strange.
• 30:05
  This already. I've seen every outcome.
• 30:07
  I'm doing the right thing. Like, no, you're not.
• 30:09
  You're a scumbag. All right?
• 30:10
  Fuck it. I'll let Iron Man die.
• 30:12
  But then when he dies, you're going to get mad at me.
• 30:16
  Enjoy when Doctor Doom happens. Which by the way, I have a weird
• 30:21
  theory to kind of go off into a different universe.
• 30:24
  Let's do it. What The Iron Man song.
• 30:28
  They don't ever really fully use that song or use that song as
• 30:33
  often as they do in the Marvel Universe, and I have a theory of
• 30:38
  why they don't. OK.
• 30:41
  They do in the very first one, but they only use the first
• 30:43
  couple bars. If you listen to the song Iron
• 30:46
  Man, it's a villain story. Yeah.
• 30:50
  And if you listen to the words of Iron Man, it kind of plays
• 30:53
  out to what possibly could be coming.
• 30:58
  So do you think that if if they are connected, if they are one
• 31:01
  in the same, do you think this was the plan from day one?
• 31:05
  No, I just think this is a really smart reverting.
• 31:08
  I I do think it's a coincidence that the OGI think Fantastic
• 31:12
  Four, Robert Downey wanted to be Doctor Jim in the worst way.
• 31:16
  So I don't know what we're we're going to see how it plays out.
• 31:19
  I'm very excited. All right, well, this is going
• 31:22
  to be our spoiler free verdict and expectations of the movie.
• 31:24
  And then immediately after this, we are going to I'm going to
• 31:27
  release the hounds and we are going to go full blown talk
• 31:30
  about this movie. Not seen by scene, but our
• 31:33
  favorite scenes. What we liked, what we possibly
• 31:35
  didn't like. Speaking of characters, again,
• 31:37
  just to kind of revert back, besides Crypto, besides everyone
• 31:41
  we talked about, there's one character in this movie, maybe
• 31:44
  2. But the second character, I'd
• 31:46
  never really got his name and I I so I can't really dive too
• 31:50
  much into him, but they like amoeba looking dude from the
• 31:52
  jail cell. He was yeah, he was cool.
• 31:55
  I didn't. I didn't get his.
• 31:56
  Name. Yeah, one of my favorite actors
• 31:58
  too. He in Gotham, he was Victor Zaz.
• 32:02
  Oh shit, he was and he was. Also one of the Bulgarian dudes
• 32:06
  in the show Barry on HBO and he's been in quite a few other
• 32:12
  things. He's just a funny, squirrely
• 32:14
  little guy. But the I, I think if there's
• 32:17
  anyone in this movie who deserves their own movie and
• 32:20
  it's a character that, and I don't give a fuck who you are.
• 32:22
  If you if you are a deep dive superhero fan or a comic book
• 32:26
  guy and this is your favorite before he was played by this guy
• 32:30
  on screen, then good for you. But Mr. Terrific was he stole
• 32:36
  the fucking movie. He was so good.
• 32:40
  Killed it, killed it Mr. Terrific is what James Gunn did
• 32:44
  for the Guardians of the Galaxy in the DC, in the Marvel
• 32:46
  Universe, because no one knew about the Guardians.
• 32:49
  No one gave a fuck about the Guardians.
• 32:51
  They looked at the visual outlook of the Guardians and
• 32:53
  like a raccoon, a a green girl, a really Jack guy and a human.
• 32:57
  That team is going to be so stupid.
• 32:59
  That's Mr. Terrific. Like just the black line in the
• 33:02
  face, the kind of Michael motorcycle suit.
• 33:06
  And then you see him on screen. You're like, why is why is he
• 33:09
  not as popular as any other character in the DC universe?
• 33:12
  Yeah, the only other time we've seen him in live action was in
• 33:16
  the Arrow verse in Green Arrow. He was like one of his side.
• 33:21
  He was part of his team. And it's just like, it wasn't
• 33:23
  very well done. But yeah, they they created a
• 33:27
  star. And that's what he's doing right
• 33:29
  now with he's like starting almost from the beginning of
• 33:34
  comic books. He's creating this new version
• 33:38
  of the Justice Society of America, but we're calling it
• 33:41
  the Justice Gang, I think, so that we don't have to stick to
• 33:45
  the restraints of using everybody from the Justice
• 33:48
  Society and we can kind of pick and choose and create something
• 33:50
  new. And we're not obviously we're
• 33:52
  not using any of the heavy hitters.
• 33:54
  So when they finally do add the heavy hitters, you're like.
• 33:58
  The Justice League baby, Right? Well, Justice.
• 34:02
  Well, yeah. Justice League and Justice
• 34:04
  Society, which is like a precursor to Justice League,
• 34:07
  which is like your Doctor Fates Hawkman, like just that, that
• 34:12
  kind of ilk. The question, which is we're
• 34:15
  getting these kind of characters through the Peacemaker stuff,
• 34:19
  supposedly blue. Beetle Well, even like in the
• 34:21
  comics, we would have when everyone would sit around the
• 34:24
  table and at be at the meeting and you'd have all these heroes,
• 34:27
  but you're like, you really only know that four or five need to
• 34:29
  get the job done. The rest of them are kind of
• 34:31
  just just hanging out. With with the Guardians of the
• 34:36
  Galaxy thing. Like Peacemaker was like who the
• 34:38
  fuck knew who Peacemaker? Exactly another.
• 34:40
  Character. Now he's one of the most
• 34:42
  interesting characters on TV. Yeah, and and what and even like
• 34:46
  the when they redid Suicide Squad and he did his version of
• 34:49
  it, like King Shark is a is a love, but weasel, like all these
• 34:53
  cool characters like did such a good job.
• 34:56
  All right, so at its safest, this film.
• 35:00
  As a reminder, heroes still do matter.
• 35:02
  Added, which is a huge thing because right now superhero
• 35:05
  movies are on a decline. The Marvel Cinematic Universe is
• 35:08
  not hitting where where it used to be.
• 35:10
  But here's the thing, I think the Marvel Cinematic Universe is
• 35:14
  better now than it ever has been.
• 35:16
  But that's just my opinion because I think they're making
• 35:17
  movies for me as a comic book fan that are just more
• 35:20
  entertaining to watch. I loved Doctor Strange when Sam
• 35:24
  Raimi took over as director. This person took over as
• 35:26
  director. And I like those different
• 35:28
  tones, but and they right now they are kind of leaning into
• 35:31
  characters that people really don't care about.
• 35:33
  But maybe you don't have the ability of James Gunn as a
• 35:35
  director to make the most. I think they team larger than
• 35:38
  life. I think they took risks with the
• 35:41
  whole Miss Marvel and the Marvels 'cause that that movie
• 35:46
  could have been a 6th episode miniseries and I'd have been
• 35:49
  fine with it. It was a movie and I was like,
• 35:51
  oh, this is bad. Do you think the miniseries is
• 35:53
  ruining it too? Or you're like, maybe Loki
• 35:55
  should have been a movie instead of a movie series and this movie
• 35:57
  should have been a middle middle, like, you know what I
• 35:58
  mean? Like.
• 35:59
  I love it. I love it because it keeps the
• 36:01
  timeline and pacing. I get to watch these miniseries
• 36:05
  in between bigger movies that tie in.
• 36:08
  I'm totally on board with that. Just like we're doing with DC as
• 36:12
  we have Creature Commandos, Superman, Peacemaker, and I'm,
• 36:18
  it keeps me engaged and I love it.
• 36:21
  Give me more content that I love.
• 36:24
  But I think you see the. Trailer Off topic again, but did
• 36:27
  you see the trailer for Welcome to Dairy?
• 36:30
  I I haven't watched the trailer so I this is weird but I've
• 36:34
  started to stop watching trailers and going into movies
• 36:38
  blind. Well, that's gonna be a series.
• 36:41
  It's gonna not gonna be a movie. It's a.
• 36:42
  Series. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 36:43
  But you know what character they show in the trailer?
• 36:46
  What is? That the old dude from The
• 36:48
  Shining. The black dude.
• 36:50
  Yeah, so he. Meets he, he's part, he's in
• 36:53
  dairy. He's like, he uses the shine to
• 36:56
  experience it. Like, so they're like kind of
• 36:59
  blending in the, the, the Stephen King universe and
• 37:04
  they're kind of doing it within dairy.
• 37:07
  I I heard that they wanted to do something with that character,
• 37:10
  like maybe give him his own show, so that makes a lot of
• 37:14
  sense. Yeah, it looks really good.
• 37:16
  All right. And where we at here?
• 37:18
  All right, So Adam's boldest is the blueprint for the decade for
• 37:23
  DC. It's not perfect, but some
• 37:25
  pacing stumbles, tonal shifts, but it those feel forgivable
• 37:28
  compared to the joy of feeling excited for DC again.
• 37:32
  If this is the foundation, then what comes next finally matters
• 37:35
  indefinitely more. On a scale of cautious optimism
• 37:39
  to a raving fan, where do you lie and what?
• 37:43
  What determines whether this reboot was successful or a
• 37:45
  failure? Yeah, I mean, I hate to say it,
• 37:49
  but I'm a raving fan. It's it's taking something I've
• 37:54
  already loved. And maybe it's because I didn't
• 37:58
  love Zack Snyder's version of Superman that I love this so
• 38:04
  much more. But I think in general,
• 38:06
  everything that the DCU is doing, I'm in love with.
• 38:09
  So it's, it's also me hating Henry Cavill's Superman and Zack
• 38:14
  Snyder's interpretation of it. But this, I don't know.
• 38:18
  I'm just, I'm sold. I'm sold on every aspect of
• 38:21
  this. I always you, you know, I'm a
• 38:23
  T-shirt guy and I've owned T-shirts with Superman on it,
• 38:27
  but never owned a Superman T-shirt.
• 38:32
  When I first seen the S on this Superman, I hated the look.
• 38:35
  I was like, that looks stupid. But now since watching the
• 38:40
  movie, if I'm going to wear an S on my chest, it's going to be
• 38:43
  this version of Superman's S and I'll actually be proud of being
• 38:46
  a Superman fan. I, I, I went into this very
• 38:50
  optimist, you know, because I'm like, man, I really want DC to
• 38:53
  be successful. I love DCIIII, love Marvel too.
• 38:57
  I'm not a I'm not a tribalist. 1's not better than the other.
• 39:00
  I enjoy both universes. I want DC to be as successful as
• 39:04
  Marvel. I want them to be rivaling
• 39:06
  companies where we're like, yeah, we have two amazing
• 39:09
  universes. I want my DCI, want my AEWI want
• 39:12
  my TNAI, want the same thing from my comic book universe.
• 39:15
  They don't have to play nice or play together.
• 39:17
  I just want them. But I just want them to.
• 39:20
  Well, then, then it comes down to the booking of like who's in
• 39:22
  control of the characters, who beats who, and it's a nightmare.
• 39:25
  But. Oh no I don't want them to verse
• 39:27
  each other I just want them to exist in like I would love for
• 39:32
  Disney in a sense to own DCI. See, I wouldn't want that.
• 39:38
  OK. Yeah, I, I think DC has positive
• 39:40
  track record of sometimes buying properties and then it loses its
• 39:43
  lust. And I think the, I think DC does
• 39:46
  things a little more artistically of like, no, we're
• 39:49
  going to stay true and it's not going to be the mainstream
• 39:51
  version. We're going to give you a, we're
• 39:52
  going to give you enough mainstream to get you by.
• 39:54
  But there's a tone to DC that I feel like would be lost.
• 39:58
  I'm a little scared right now because they're they are talking
• 40:00
  about. The people at Paramount and
• 40:04
  Skydance putting in a bid to buy out WB and the The rumor is that
• 40:09
  if they do that, they're going to can James Gunn.
• 40:13
  You know what scares me right now?
• 40:15
  That our political figures are buying properties with Saudi
• 40:20
  leaders. Like, dude, Trump's son-in-law
• 40:23
  Kushnick just bought EA Sports with the the leader of the dude
• 40:28
  who's all over UFC and WWE and all those guys, they just bought
• 40:32
  the rights to EA Sports. They they're buying up all these
• 40:36
  media platforms man. Like and so is like man, I hate
• 40:41
  bringing this up because I'm going to get shit but Israel is
• 40:46
  literally having like their friendly billionaires buy like
• 40:50
  TikTok and shit like that so that they can overtime control
• 40:54
  and change the narrative of their bullshit.
• 40:57
  And it sucks because like, imagine if all of a sudden we
• 41:00
  lose this form of art of comic, because comic books have always
• 41:04
  been that like the punk rock, the resistance, like comic books
• 41:09
  are, are 100% punk rock liberal shit.
• 41:12
  So let's say they've gotten woke is crazy.
• 41:15
  They've always been woke. That's that's essentially what
• 41:17
  comic book writers have been. Instead of being punk rock, they
• 41:20
  they Stan Lee and and and and Bob Kane and all these great
• 41:25
  writers wrote about the injustices of the world and
• 41:29
  people who are stronger, smarter and and have more power than we
• 41:32
  have to change it. Just like the X-Men.
• 41:35
  The X-Men is 100 about the 100% stolen from the civil rights
• 41:38
  movement. You know what I mean?
• 41:39
  Like, but yeah, it's it's crazy. All right, well, let's let's get
• 41:43
  into the meat and potatoes here. The spoiler version of this.
• 41:47
  Let let the truth be fly with sorry, the the truth behind the
• 41:52
  Cape. So let's dig in.
• 41:54
  In cryptos. In cryptos and Clark's arrival
• 41:57
  and the weight of the beginning of the Last Son of the Lost
• 42:00
  World. That's the emotional core.
• 42:03
  Clark intervenes during Borvia. And how do you say it again?
• 42:07
  Jonah who? Are we talking?
• 42:09
  About the the Borvia and Jonipur, right?
• 42:13
  Joe Hampour and Boravia. Yeah, he he, he intervenes
• 42:17
  during that conflict. The ACT becomes the the film
• 42:20
  spark. It's it is Superman a hero or a
• 42:23
  foreign agent? Lex Luthor implies the amplifies
• 42:26
  the panic. Not just as a mad scientist.
• 42:29
  He's a manipulator, twisting evidence, encouraging government
• 42:32
  backlash, building distrust. Ultraman's real is a is a real
• 42:37
  savage, a mirror to Clark's ideals.
• 42:39
  His his turned monstrous. Their duel is as much physical
• 42:43
  as physiological as it is physical.
• 42:46
  When Clark is broken, crypto becomes central.
• 42:48
  He rescues Clark from Dune and drags him to the fortress.
• 42:51
  There, in the solitude, Clark confronts a purpose of guilt and
• 42:55
  identity that is reckoning with a more powerful than any punch.
• 42:58
  Finally, Superman returns not just a fight, but to restore.
• 43:01
  He unmatched Luther's lies. He reframes the public opinion
• 43:05
  and not only wins by his strength but his conviction.
• 43:08
  Do you feel? Do you feel the emotional arc
• 43:12
  from hope to despair to resolve was satisfying?
• 43:15
  Which turn hit you the hardest? So right now we can just open up
• 43:18
  the floodgates, talk about our favorite parts of the movie.
• 43:21
  Spoilers are going to fill this section.
• 43:25
  OK, I got to build up to what turns hit me the hardest, but I
• 43:30
  will just go through like my 3 or 4 key scenes in the movie,
• 43:35
  which are when inner Lois gets to interview Superman for the
• 43:40
  first time. And that is one of the most
• 43:43
  intense interviews you've ever watched.
• 43:46
  It's uncomfortable, it's hilarious.
• 43:49
  But then you you get to see the humanity and the turmoil within
• 43:53
  Clark and Superman for the first time ever.
• 43:57
  Like him questioning like, did I did the right thing?
• 44:01
  He's trying to stand up for himself.
• 44:02
  I did the right thing. And then Lois is like, but did
• 44:05
  you you know, I know that you did, but not everybody will.
• 44:10
  And like, you just can't do that.
• 44:12
  I can hear my dog snoring. So that is that is my favorite
• 44:19
  scene in this movie. It's just it's so powerful.
• 44:23
  It reminds me of and I'm going to put somebody over his name is
• 44:27
  Max Landis. Are you familiar with Max
• 44:29
  Landis? He does this video on pro
• 44:34
  wrestling that you'll love. He basically tells the story of
• 44:37
  how the story of WWE is the story of Triple H and it's one
• 44:42
  of the best videos ever. But he also has this he writes
• 44:47
  comic books, he's a writer, he's a director.
• 44:50
  But on YouTube he has this thing he calls the Kryptonian epic.
• 44:54
  And what he does really, really well is he writes and performs
• 44:58
  Superman from a human aspect. And it's that's what James Gunn
• 45:04
  did. And that's that's why it's so
• 45:06
  powerful. So then the other scene that
• 45:12
  really gets me is when the kids in Johanpour are about to be
• 45:17
  invaded by the Baravians and they pull up the the stick with
• 45:23
  a Superman logo. On it they come, completely
• 45:26
  unarmed. Yeah, I, I, dude, I'm not going
• 45:29
  to lie to you. I, I freaking cried.
• 45:31
  They like, it's a powerful moment and there is something
• 45:34
  about what's happening in the world right now that it keeps me
• 45:40
  off of social media. But at the same time, I can't, I
• 45:43
  can't stop looking because it, it hurts to watch other people
• 45:47
  hurt while I get to live and thrive and survive.
• 45:51
  So that, that moment, it just hit so hard.
• 45:54
  And I think it's a beautiful scene.
• 45:56
  And then the obviously the scene where the dog is kidnapped and
• 46:02
  then he bursts into Lex's office and it's like, where's the dog?
• 46:08
  You're just like, God, I relate to that.
• 46:10
  Like, what if that was my dog? I'd do the same thing.
• 46:14
  Superman turned into John Wick. Right, exactly.
• 46:18
  And it's just, it's such a human moment that you're like, I get
• 46:21
  it, but then you realize he's being filmed.
• 46:27
  You're taking my emotional reaction and you're turning it
• 46:31
  against me. And you and I have both been in
• 46:33
  these positions and it fucking sucks.
• 46:36
  So like, I relate to Superman even more now, which is
• 46:39
  something I just never was able to do because he's such a Boy
• 46:42
  Scout and he's just, he's not that he's he's kind and he's
• 46:47
  moral in this, but he's not a freaking Boy Scout in this
• 46:49
  movie. Yeah, I love the fact that he he
• 46:52
  he has the ability to be a look at me, look at me character and
• 46:56
  and I'm just going to beat you with complete strength and
• 46:59
  destruction and and goodwill. But he I I love how he just
• 47:02
  takes a step back and he has to learn in this movie too, of
• 47:05
  like, I have to be more reactive than proactive.
• 47:09
  He's literally being held in a prison cell with a man holding
• 47:12
  kryptonite and never once pleaded or begged for his life.
• 47:16
  He just showed humanity in, in what little strength he had
• 47:19
  left. He was like, the guy was just
• 47:22
  like, you should have given up, you should have tapped out, you
• 47:25
  should be dead and won this man over.
• 47:29
  I'm just showing his resilience and his good hearted nature like
• 47:33
  he's completely, there's there's no chance he's going to come out
• 47:35
  of this and win. There's no, there's nothing at
• 47:38
  this point in time. All his help that's supposed to
• 47:41
  come and save him. They don't even get a chance to
• 47:43
  save him because he wins this man over and says, well, what do
• 47:48
  I like? He just gives up.
• 47:49
  He's like, no, no, no. You're you can help us here.
• 47:51
  You know what I mean? Like this guy just breaks.
• 47:54
  He says he breaks watching Superman not break.
• 47:57
  And I thought that was really powerful.
• 47:58
  We're in the spoiler. Yeah, Yeah.
• 48:02
  You can talk about anything. OK, so in that moment, you're
• 48:04
  talking about Lex has a gun to a food merchant's head that has
• 48:10
  just talked to Superman once and showed kindness to Superman,
• 48:15
  right? And Super, he's he's telling
• 48:18
  Superman like, hey, don't give into this.
• 48:20
  Like, I would die for you. And Superman can't answer the
• 48:24
  questions that Lex Luthor is trying to get out of him because
• 48:28
  he's going to kill people he loves.
• 48:31
  And it's just, it's so intense for a Superman movie and it's
• 48:36
  just, and that is the moment that one over Metamorpho and
• 48:39
  changed that whole trajectory. Yeah, the the, the, the, the
• 48:45
  just the city building when the when the when the rift is
• 48:47
  tearing apart Metropolis. Good visual, trying to think
• 48:52
  Ultraman who then turns into who you know finding out is
• 48:55
  essentially a Superman clone. Which normally when they go that
• 48:59
  route I hate it. Like when they did it with
• 49:02
  Wolverine, when Wolverine had to fight Wolverine, I was like this
• 49:05
  sucks. Yeah, this was but.
• 49:08
  I will also we're going to kind of talk about this in a in
• 49:11
  another segment, but like, I think that becomes bizarro.
• 49:16
  I, I, I, there's no doubt in my brain that that eventually once
• 49:20
  he gets sucked into that black hole and he asks, he ends up
• 49:23
  wherever he ends up, He's not going to die.
• 49:25
  He's Superman. He's not going to die in a black
• 49:26
  hole. He's going to find a way to
• 49:28
  thrive and live and like, will it do damage to him 100%?
• 49:34
  Will he not come out the same way he went in?
• 49:36
  Probably, but he's not going to die.
• 49:39
  But like the like the whole idea of him saying almost like a
• 49:43
  chess move where Lex is like a 35B15 and he's bingo carding and
• 49:49
  studying Superman and using him as a pawn to fight for him.
• 49:53
  And then he learns, oh, I just got to destroy the box.
• 49:57
  I just got to stop him from hearing the commands.
• 50:00
  And this dude's trash. He's not smart, he's kind of an
• 50:03
  idiot. And once he has no direction, I
• 50:06
  can beat the shit out of him. It would, it would, it would.
• 50:09
  That was the cleverness of a superhero hero movie and a comic
• 50:13
  book of like, oh, I found the weakness.
• 50:15
  And when that hits in that movie, you're like, it's so
• 50:18
  simple and it's right there and it's good booking.
• 50:21
  It's it was done so well. And I was just like, I love
• 50:23
  that. That's a great.
• 50:24
  Way. To defeat your end, I wish more
• 50:27
  wrestling matches in just that aspect of like.
• 50:31
  And here's a, here's a spoiler alert when we get back into
• 50:34
  this, that's a, that's a thing I really want to sit down with a
• 50:38
  maybe I shouldn't say this in public, but I, I, I would love
• 50:40
  to sit down with a wrestling roster.
• 50:42
  You'll be like, listen, I already know you guys have your
• 50:44
  characters, but legitimately I want you to come up with a
• 50:46
  character sheet. I want to know your strengths.
• 50:47
  And I, and, and you have to write a weakness and I want to
• 50:51
  play. I don't want to tell the
• 50:52
  audience what your weakness is, but I want you as wrestlers to
• 50:55
  show me what that weakness is and then let your opponent beat
• 50:59
  you in the like that that storytelling within the ring is
• 51:02
  beautiful. So when the fans sit there and
• 51:04
  go, Oh my God, he has a bad knee.
• 51:06
  He just found a way to beat this, this monster.
• 51:08
  You know what I mean? Like not enough people do that
• 51:10
  aspect in storytelling. And I think Superman in such a
• 51:13
  simple aspect of just like take away his communication, you got
• 51:17
  him beat. We're writing stories based off
• 51:20
  characters rather than writing stories.
• 51:22
  Take away the urn from the Undertaker and he's not an
• 51:24
  indestructible monster. Right, exactly.
• 51:27
  Like that one thing that brings the character this super than
• 51:31
  larger than life unbeatable monster to now an evil in
• 51:34
  playing field. And I thought that part of the
• 51:36
  movie was terrific. Jimmy Olsen and and Lois Lane
• 51:40
  discovering, doing their detective work and figuring out
• 51:44
  how they can save the day as just normal people in a world of
• 51:47
  metahumans I thought was beautiful.
• 51:49
  That like, even in a world full of superheroes and superpowers
• 51:52
  and things that you can't do, you can still fight with
• 51:55
  morality and humanity and, and smart and, and still enter a
• 52:00
  world of superheroes and, and hang.
• 52:01
  I thought that was really, really smart and, and just to
• 52:06
  kind of, for me, the very end when Superman's hanging out in
• 52:10
  the Fortress of Solitude and Supergirl walks in and asks for
• 52:13
  her dog, I lost my mind. I was like, she's here.
• 52:17
  Like, like, like it adds a whole other.
• 52:20
  It adds a whole. And the whole time they never
• 52:22
  talk about it. They never like there's a lot of
• 52:24
  hints to other things that are part of this world, but James is
• 52:28
  like, we're just not ready to tell you about it yet.
• 52:30
  But it's it sums here because this isn't a brand new world.
• 52:33
  This, this world has already lived in this world.
• 52:35
  Superman's not day one Superman. We've we've experienced Superman
• 52:39
  and I'm just like, oh, this opens the door to so much and we
• 52:42
  don't have to play catch up all the time.
• 52:44
  Like just the way that he can put us into a world that it's
• 52:47
  already lived in. So good.
• 52:50
  It also gives like the why Superman so annoyed by crypto,
• 52:55
  but also like, yeah, I kind of got to go get this dog.
• 52:59
  So every time I portray Crypto, he's very smart, he's a very
• 53:02
  well trained dog. He knows what he's this crypto's
• 53:04
  a dickhead, he's an idiot, he's a puppy like.
• 53:08
  He's literally this dog laying next to me, just an asshole.
• 53:11
  But like you love him and that like Superman not having to be
• 53:16
  like the forefront and spotlight the whole time that you.
• 53:19
  You mentioned that and it made me think of the scene where the
• 53:22
  justice gangs outside the window fighting the interdimensional
• 53:26
  Imp and he's just. Like which is who, Who, who, who
• 53:29
  possibly is that? I don't know Mr. Mr. Spiglik or
• 53:32
  whatever, maybe. Like, yeah, that's, that's my
• 53:35
  thought. Yeah.
• 53:35
  It has to be him. Could be.
• 53:37
  Which is another, which also means we can have Batmite on
• 53:41
  screen. Can you imagine?
• 53:43
  I thought we, yeah, I thought we were going to get it in one of
• 53:46
  the episodes of Peacemaker. We didn't, though.
• 53:48
  Oh shit. I.
• 53:49
  Didn't get that far. I can't wait to watch it.
• 53:52
  But in that scene, like, it was such a deep scene and all this
• 53:55
  crazy stuff is going on outside. But when he talks about the dog,
• 53:59
  he's just like, he's he's out there, he's alone and he's
• 54:04
  probably scared. I know what that's like.
• 54:07
  Fuck, yeah. So do I.
• 54:10
  Like you can not love this guy. Because I don't like when they,
• 54:15
  when they reckoned crypto in the Superman as like, it's
• 54:19
  Superman's dog and he just jumps into the portal and jumps into
• 54:23
  the thing. And then like you're like, well,
• 54:24
  then then Crypto and Superman would always be together.
• 54:27
  And I, I kind of like the fact that no crypto came with
• 54:29
  Supergirl. Like that's been her pet.
• 54:31
  You know what I mean? Like when they did that, I
• 54:33
  thought that was a really good nod.
• 54:36
  Mr. Terrific's fight scene where he has his orbs and he has Lois,
• 54:39
  like so good, Unreal, such a good fight scene.
• 54:42
  It was so bad ass. I love when he like just
• 54:45
  casually grabs the orb and like floats over the Dome.
• 54:50
  It's just so beautifully done. It's like a one shot, which is
• 54:53
  very much the fight style from the movie The Kingsman.
• 54:58
  Which I have yet to see, but I cannot wait to Yeah, that's I I
• 55:01
  have to watch it. Or even his orbs where Crypto
• 55:04
  thinks it's a toy. Like that's fucking hilarious.
• 55:08
  It's so good, you know, crypto is so good in this one.
• 55:12
  Yes, and it's James Gunn's dog, by the way.
• 55:15
  Is it really? Yeah, and it's like a he's like
• 55:17
  a grey dog and he literally just modeled Crypto after his dog and
• 55:23
  it's all CGI, but it's it's his dog.
• 55:25
  It's awesome. Yeah, was it?
• 55:27
  Was that James Gunn's brother in Lex's base with a mustache?
• 55:34
  I don't believe so. I think it's his brother plays,
• 55:40
  not Ted Kord, who's the the guy who owns the Justice Gang, their
• 55:45
  benefactor. That's James Gunn's brother.
• 55:47
  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right.
• 55:48
  You're right. Yeah.
• 55:49
  I would say the only characters who like she didn't have enough
• 55:52
  Hawk Girl and, and and I didn't, I mean, I I probably didn't like
• 55:57
  him because it's not the version of the character that I want.
• 55:59
  And I'm probably being selfish, but like Green Lantern didn't
• 56:01
  hit for me. But he did a great job playing
• 56:03
  that character of the asshole. But you're kind of like just
• 56:05
  just give me like, I just want. So we're getting them.
• 56:10
  We we are getting them. But like, when it comes to that,
• 56:13
  Green Lantern nailed it. Nailed it.
• 56:16
  He's an asshole, he's a Dick. He's very self-centered.
• 56:20
  But then it, it makes room for the Lantern movie, which is, I
• 56:25
  feel like it's going to be very much like a detective movie,
• 56:28
  like True Detectives. But Green Lantern, we're we're
• 56:31
  getting Jon Stewart and we're getting Hal Jordan and we might
• 56:36
  get Kyle Rayner, which or oh, and I think it's rumored to be
• 56:40
  that they're investigating the death of Green Lantern Alan
• 56:43
  Scott, which is the first, I think openly gay, like comic
• 56:47
  book hero. Yeah, All right, well, let's get
• 56:50
  into Easter eggs, hidden details and DCU seeds.
• 56:53
  So gun dodges, Easter eggs, traps, so many references they
• 56:58
  distract, but he likes to sprinkle them in thoughtfully.
• 57:01
  So some, some, some of the ones that you know, I caught or some
• 57:04
  other people caught, but not all of them I do.
• 57:05
  We we talked about Mr. Mix Plex possibly being the imp in that
• 57:09
  one scene, but in the DC Studios intro shows Superman breaking
• 57:13
  the chains, which is a nod to Superman #1 The conflict
• 57:18
  locations, I'm not going to try to say them again 'cause I'll
• 57:21
  butcher them, are ancient comic geography.
• 57:23
  Character like that was kind of already used in DC Comics, which
• 57:26
  was a kind of a cool nod. Lord Tech hints heavily at
• 57:29
  Maxwell Lord's future role. That's Maxwell Lord.
• 57:33
  That's James Gunn's brother. Yeah, a street sign reading
• 57:37
  Gotham City 5 miles confirms Batman's world overlap, so it it
• 57:42
  does show us that Gotham is in the timeline.
• 57:45
  Yep. So Metropolis is in Delaware and
• 57:49
  Gotham is in New Jersey. Yeah, I always kind of looked at
• 57:54
  it as New York is kind of like if kind of you took a couple
• 57:59
  states out and just separated them by the Great Lakes and, and
• 58:02
  Chicago is kind of where Minnesota would be and Michigan.
• 58:06
  And then Detroit is kind of where New York would because
• 58:08
  like that's they're separated by like a small body of water, but
• 58:13
  they're not too far of a distance from one another.
• 58:16
  Yep, Will Reeves cameo was pretty cool.
• 58:22
  Who was this? Will Reeves cameo the emotional
• 58:24
  legacy? No, I did not even recognize
• 58:27
  that. Let me see.
• 58:32
  I'll tell you right now exactly what scene it was in.
• 58:37
  He's a he's, he's a reporter in the movie.
• 58:40
  OK, cool. Yeah, it was a tribute to his
• 58:42
  father who famously played in the movie.
• 58:44
  So he plays one of the reporters in in, in, during, I think like
• 58:50
  when they cut to like a a camera craw scene.
• 58:53
  He he was in it. The Robot The Fortress robots
• 58:56
  are voiced by Guns, usual collaborators.
• 58:59
  Alan Tudic. And and and and Roker.
• 59:01
  Roker the final frames of Cara Zarrell reclaims crypto planting
• 59:06
  the Supergirl seeds was unbelievable.
• 59:09
  The the the mural in the Justice Gang's headquarters features
• 59:12
  Wildcat, Liberty Bell and Zantra, which possibly members
• 59:15
  of the Justice Society. I thought that was kind of cool.
• 59:19
  Lexus copy of A Better World, a classic Lexus motif there nod to
• 59:25
  Belle Reeve, the infamous DC prison.
• 59:29
  These aren't distractions. They're pledges to lore, to
• 59:31
  legacy, and they connect the universe.
• 59:33
  Which hidden details did I not say that were for you, that were
• 59:36
  big? And how do you how soon do you
• 59:38
  think they'll pay off? Man, hidden details I feel like
• 59:43
  you pretty much nailed most of. Them bizarro.
• 59:45
  I still think that's bizarro. I didn't put.
• 59:47
  That one in there. But yeah, Oh yeah, sure.
• 59:48
  Fan theory wise, that's got to be bizarro.
• 59:51
  So the only thing that I don't take for that is that Ultraman
• 59:56
  is the are you familiar with the crime syndicate?
• 1:00:00
  So the crime syndicate is Earth 3.
• 1:00:03
  It's the Justice League is like a mafia and the leader of the
• 1:00:07
  mafia is Superman, but his name is Ultraman.
• 1:00:12
  And it's it's such a cool. It's so cool.
• 1:00:15
  Batman, there is Owl Man. By the way, I.
• 1:00:17
  Do what you're talking about now, yeah.
• 1:00:20
  So I don't love that they use the name Ultraman, which makes
• 1:00:27
  me feel like if he's bizarro then we may never see the Crime
• 1:00:30
  Syndicate and that that would hurt my feelings.
• 1:00:34
  But I very cool. I do think that's bizarro
• 1:00:37
  because of him being so dumb and cast out into the void.
• 1:00:42
  Probably the lack of sun, the lack of oxygen, the lack of
• 1:00:45
  whatever the heck is going to turn him into the zombified
• 1:00:47
  idiot Superman. Do you think that's him talking
• 1:00:51
  when he's? It is so when he's the Hammer of
• 1:00:54
  Boravia, it's David Cornslet. He has this like embellished
• 1:00:58
  accent and everything that is him talking.
• 1:01:00
  I didn't know if that was him talking or if that was Lex using
• 1:01:03
  a voice changer and talking through the soup.
• 1:01:05
  That's what that's what I initially thought.
• 1:01:07
  I was watching some behind the scenes stuff.
• 1:01:09
  It is David doing that and it was really cool.
• 1:01:12
  Yeah. All right, so some let's get to
• 1:01:16
  our another segment here, fan theories and wild speculation.
• 1:01:19
  So fans are doing the math and here are some few theories on
• 1:01:21
  the Internet right now that are getting some traction. 2 Thor
• 1:01:24
  for president that subtle book make you may not be random.
• 1:01:29
  So maybe Lex kind of here's the thing too.
• 1:01:32
  You think to yourself, well, how does he get caught?
• 1:01:35
  Shown to the entire world he's a fraud and a cheat and a scumbag
• 1:01:40
  and he only cares about himself but still become the president
• 1:01:43
  and. I want to sit here and be like,
• 1:01:49
  yeah, that wouldn't happen. It's happened.
• 1:01:52
  Dude, and here's the thing. When when, if you thought the
• 1:01:54
  Lex story and Superman story is good, when when Lex becomes the
• 1:01:58
  president in the DC Universe that where Superman just wants
• 1:02:02
  to punch a hole through his face, but he can't and he has to
• 1:02:05
  shake his hand and he has to be diplomatic because he has
• 1:02:08
  learned if he's not diplomatic that the like he he's
• 1:02:12
  essentially playing into. Lex, if we're if we're looking
• 1:02:16
  at that fan theory, here's how I think we get there right.
• 1:02:19
  Lex Luthor and Superman have to work together in The Man of
• 1:02:22
  Tomorrow, like that reluctant buddy cop movie.
• 1:02:27
  Publicly, Lex Luthor is going to find a way to take all the
• 1:02:31
  glory, which is going to make him perceived as a hero who has
• 1:02:35
  redeemed himself. That gets him to the presidency.
• 1:02:38
  Yeah, that that makes sense. Well, there's the whole theory
• 1:02:41
  that why they would have to work together coming up here in a
• 1:02:43
  moment. Ultraman bizarro DNA experiments
• 1:02:46
  may lead to A twist in Superman's clone in the sequel.
• 1:02:48
  Conor Kent. Yeah, the Justice Society origin
• 1:02:52
  the The Hero mural may lead to the team's team of legacy
• 1:02:56
  heroes. Maxwell Lord as an ultimate
• 1:02:58
  puppeteer. His name and text shows up.
• 1:03:01
  Maybe he ties all the all the villain arcs together.
• 1:03:04
  Kara's role and the cosmic arc her her arrival opens the door
• 1:03:09
  to space politics, Green Lantern and Crypto lore.
• 1:03:13
  During the mid credits scenes there's another tease that some
• 1:03:18
  people have picked up on and have not picked up on.
• 1:03:22
  There are some cryptic data pulses in the mid credit scenes
• 1:03:25
  suggesting a future invader which may be Brainiac.
• 1:03:31
  I did not know that. Yeah.
• 1:03:33
  So I guess during the mid credit scenes you see like distortions
• 1:03:36
  are in like you know what I mean?
• 1:03:39
  I did not catch that until I read this when I went back and
• 1:03:41
  looked. Multiverse is looming hints and
• 1:03:44
  dialogue camera flares suggest that alternate worlds may be
• 1:03:47
  merged down the line. And I believe that is then
• 1:03:50
  talked about in Peacemaker as well, right?
• 1:03:54
  In in a sense, in Peacemaker, you feel like you're going to
• 1:03:58
  explain, explore a bunch of alternate universes that we
• 1:04:01
  ultimately don't, even though they do play into the greater
• 1:04:07
  story of what will be the DCU, at least one other universal
• 1:04:11
  play into it. Yeah, and then we talked about
• 1:04:14
  the DC movie and then the DC reboot.
• 1:04:18
  Here's just some of the DC road map and franchise's vision
• 1:04:23
  according to, you know, Internet and what we do know, but that
• 1:04:27
  this film is a launchpad for guns grand design.
• 1:04:29
  And then here's some other ones that include some may already be
• 1:04:32
  out as well. So you can go check them out as
• 1:04:34
  like this one Creature Commandos, which is an anime
• 1:04:37
  animated series, a Canon to the film.
• 1:04:40
  So this animated series is Canon to the DC universe which is
• 1:04:45
  interesting. Will they get live action
• 1:04:46
  versions? Who knows.
• 1:04:48
  Supergirl Woman of tomorrow 2026 Well is a movie that's already
• 1:04:53
  slated. Lanterns 2026 cosmic detective
• 1:04:57
  drama The This is the one I'm excited for The Brave and the
• 1:05:01
  Bold, which is going to be bringing Batman into this
• 1:05:06
  universe. But not just Batman, and not
• 1:05:09
  just Robin, but fucking Damian Wayne.
• 1:05:12
  We're going to get Damian Wayne on screen.
• 1:05:15
  That's been confirmed. Yes, nice, the brave and the
• 1:05:18
  bold. And if you notice in the very
• 1:05:20
  beginning too, the tagline is kind of monsters and Gods and
• 1:05:25
  monsters was used in the fucking tagline at the very beginning of
• 1:05:28
  the movie. Waller, a political intrigue and
• 1:05:31
  secret wars type thing where I guess Amanda Waller will get her
• 1:05:35
  own movie. The Authority 2027, an antihero
• 1:05:38
  ensemble. Peacemaker Season 2, which is
• 1:05:40
  out now, but it's a direct lead in to the Man of Tomorrow,
• 1:05:43
  Superman, Man of Tomorrow 2027, Clark versus Lex continues.
• 1:05:49
  And then the one I'm super excited for that's going to be
• 1:05:51
  kind of a they're already caught talking about more of a horror
• 1:05:55
  movie style movie. There's 2 horror movies actually
• 1:05:57
  coming. Clayface is coming where that's
• 1:06:00
  going to be like a body horror, which I fucking love Clayface.
• 1:06:03
  So the fact that he's getting movies really exciting.
• 1:06:05
  I'm curious though, is Clayface going to be part of the
• 1:06:10
  Elseworlds like Pattinson universe or is it part of the
• 1:06:14
  DCU? Because we've already seen
• 1:06:18
  Clayface in creature commandos, so I'm curious as to where this
• 1:06:23
  will lie. So there's rumors that James
• 1:06:26
  Gunn is not against Pattinson being this Superman, the like
• 1:06:31
  the this Batman for this universe.
• 1:06:34
  Like I think, I think he thinks that like what that universe has
• 1:06:37
  already created with cobble pot and and Batman and everything
• 1:06:41
  that's happening there. He's like, I, I can make that
• 1:06:43
  fit into my world. I I kind of want.
• 1:06:45
  To see what's. I I don't mind Robert Pattinson
• 1:06:48
  being our Batman. I thought he did a great job.
• 1:06:50
  I'm. All for it.
• 1:06:52
  But then the last one here I have written down Swamp Thing
• 1:06:55
  Paradise Lost, a grounding supernatural mythic underpinning
• 1:07:00
  movie which the the Swamp Thing TV show was fucking awesome.
• 1:07:05
  But it costs a lot of money to make and not a lot of people
• 1:07:08
  watched it. So that makes me kind of nervous
• 1:07:11
  because that Swamp Thing show was awesome.
• 1:07:14
  James Gunn has this knack for taking characters at people on a
• 1:07:18
  mass don't give a shit about and make you love them again.
• 1:07:22
  Look at Peacemaker. Yeah, each project is designed
• 1:07:26
  to interlock, not as a forced crossover, but a being natural
• 1:07:29
  ripples in a single pond. Do you think guns plan multiple
• 1:07:33
  genres under one DC universe is sustainable?
• 1:07:36
  Or is DC opening itself up for total whiplash again?
• 1:07:40
  Nope. I think it's possible because
• 1:07:41
  there's multiple different styles and stories that you can
• 1:07:45
  tell and the way that he's setting them up is where
• 1:07:49
  everything can be its own peace and tone, but ultimately can
• 1:07:54
  lead to the same places. And I, and I think once
• 1:07:59
  everything's together, kind of like I feel like they might be
• 1:08:03
  setting up a Marvel Battle world type scenario that will have its
• 1:08:10
  own specific tone that meshes everything else together well.
• 1:08:14
  I think the Marvel Universe kind of spoiled the audience with
• 1:08:17
  with with kind of bringing all the characters together.
• 1:08:20
  It was awesome to see in Avengers movies when you do need
• 1:08:23
  them to be together. But then they also need to teach
• 1:08:25
  the audience of like, hey, Superman helps Metropolis, but
• 1:08:30
  he's also a character who's global.
• 1:08:32
  He can go around the world and for the most part, he's going to
• 1:08:35
  stay central to Earth and Metropolis.
• 1:08:39
  Batman is doing his thing in Gotham.
• 1:08:41
  This Green Arrow is doing his thing here.
• 1:08:43
  Like everyone's kind of designated to their own spot
• 1:08:47
  where where Marvel kind of gets a little hairy is like these
• 1:08:50
  heroes are kind of designed to just one section of the city.
• 1:08:53
  Like, oh, you have Manhattan, I have this, you have that, which
• 1:08:56
  kind of maybe diminishes their powers a little bit because like
• 1:08:59
  they're getting their asses handed the Metropolis and like
• 1:09:01
  the guy's 5 minutes away and he won't come help, you know what I
• 1:09:04
  mean? But.
• 1:09:05
  Yeah, exactly. It's very confusing.
• 1:09:07
  Yeah, so I think the I think DC needs to understand and teach
• 1:09:11
  the audience that like Superman solo is Metropolis, but global
• 1:09:16
  Batman to himself is, is is centralized, this person
• 1:09:19
  centralized. But when you need the Justice
• 1:09:22
  League to get together for an interdimensional battle or a, a,
• 1:09:25
  a, a, a space battle, that's when these teams then come
• 1:09:29
  together. I think a perfect way to explain
• 1:09:31
  that is the scene that we already talked about when the
• 1:09:35
  Justice gang is fighting the amp and Superman's.
• 1:09:37
  Like, they don't, they don't need me for this.
• 1:09:39
  Yeah, I'm here, but they don't need me.
• 1:09:41
  Yeah, I don't need to come in and just wreck ship.
• 1:09:44
  Like, yeah, I can come in and snap my fingers and this fight's
• 1:09:48
  over. Yeah.
• 1:09:52
  Any other movies that I didn't list that you were excited for?
• 1:09:55
  I don't know if it's a movie. I think it's ATV show.
• 1:09:58
  It is the Booster Gold series that's supposed to happen.
• 1:10:04
  People are thinking it's that one Indian guy.
• 1:10:08
  He was in that movie with Batista where he was the UV Uber
• 1:10:11
  driver, can't remember his name. People are thinking that's who's
• 1:10:15
  going to be cast. But I think the perfect casting
• 1:10:18
  is who people think is going to be Batman, which is Alan
• 1:10:22
  Rickson. He was Thad Castle in Blue
• 1:10:26
  Mountain State. He was Dove Man in the Teen
• 1:10:29
  Titans TV series, so I'm very excited for that.
• 1:10:35
  Booster Gold is, if you don't know who he is, he's this failed
• 1:10:39
  football player from the future who has a device that travels
• 1:10:44
  him only backwards through time. Got you.
• 1:10:47
  And it's awesome. So that that's I'm excited for
• 1:10:50
  that. I think Blue Beetle is another
• 1:10:52
  project that they're doing. Don't know if that's going to be
• 1:10:55
  a movie or show. I think Blue Beetle will be ATV
• 1:10:58
  show. Yeah, that makes the most sense.
• 1:11:01
  Yeah, Booster Gold is looking that it will.
• 1:11:03
  It'll be a possibly a movie. Yeah, which is fine that it'll
• 1:11:08
  be a fun movie if it is. But you know what I don't?
• 1:11:12
  Want to see ever again and I hope the last movie ends it.
• 1:11:17
  I don't want to see any more fucking jokers after that last
• 1:11:20
  piece of shit. I know you liked it, but God
• 1:11:22
  damn it I don't want to see any. More of that of that series or
• 1:11:27
  Jokers period as a character. Just I I don't give me anymore
• 1:11:31
  Joaquin Phoenix Joker. I don't want anymore.
• 1:11:34
  That's. Fine that last.
• 1:11:35
  Movie was such a disappointment. Well, because you here's the
• 1:11:39
  thing. You had expectations for it.
• 1:11:43
  Yeah, here's a problem. The guy made a great first movie
• 1:11:46
  and then once again got into fucking conflict where he hated
• 1:11:50
  what he created because he had a vision of what he wanted to go
• 1:11:54
  and the directors and the producers and the other people
• 1:11:57
  had a vision. So he killed his own character
• 1:11:59
  in the second movie and it ruined it.
• 1:12:01
  Man, yeah, I disagree. I agree.
• 1:12:04
  But I think he turned that concept into the whole art of
• 1:12:08
  the story and the characterization of it.
• 1:12:10
  And I loved it. But that's nobody agrees with me
• 1:12:13
  on that, so I'm OK with that. Yeah, I hate it.
• 1:12:16
  It's. So I'm OK that people hate it.
• 1:12:18
  I listen, Lady Gaga on screen is Harley.
• 1:12:20
  Give me that. Joaquin Phoenix after the first
• 1:12:23
  thing, give me that. And then I'm watching.
• 1:12:24
  I'm like, can this be over? I, I need this to be over.
• 1:12:30
  Yeah. And then our last, our last
• 1:12:34
  segment here, legacy, impact and final thoughts.
• 1:12:37
  Superman 2025 ends not with a bang, but with a promise.
• 1:12:41
  A promise that better stories can be made.
• 1:12:44
  It gives us a hero who doesn't rule but serves, doesn't lecture
• 1:12:48
  but inspires. It gives us hope that the DC can
• 1:12:50
  build a universe rooted in heart, not just a spectacle.
• 1:12:54
  And you, the listener, It's your first chapter in a new era, and
• 1:12:58
  this timeline, this Cape, feels weight, weighty again.
• 1:13:02
  What will it take in the next two or three movies for you to
• 1:13:06
  really believe this reboot has truly worked?
• 1:13:12
  Just continued momentum, continuity, everything that's
• 1:13:20
  trying to be woven together needs to be like woven together.
• 1:13:23
  Florida State. And I want the characters to be
• 1:13:27
  flexible. I want to see Lex Luthor have
• 1:13:32
  range in this next movie. I want you to, I want you to
• 1:13:36
  think that he's Loki in the in the what was it, The Dark World
• 1:13:41
  where we're like, oh shit, Do we like Loki now?
• 1:13:45
  Nope. He's still a Dick.
• 1:13:46
  Yeah, you know, and that's, that's what I want.
• 1:13:49
  I'm kind for me, and it sucks that you have to bank on it
• 1:13:53
  because but you definitely need to, especially in this day and
• 1:13:56
  age is you need people's buzz, people who's seen Superman like
• 1:14:00
  Superman. But then there's a lot of people
• 1:14:02
  who didn't and and and say this movie was trash and they
• 1:14:05
  couldn't stand it. There was nothing.
• 1:14:08
  Yeah, there there's, there's people who that, you know, like
• 1:14:13
  it didn't get the buzz of like, Oh my God, at the very end
• 1:14:16
  Supergirl shows up. Like I thought that'd be bigger
• 1:14:18
  talking point even like Peacemaker 2, like the people
• 1:14:24
  who are into it are talking about it and they're like, yo,
• 1:14:26
  you should watch it. It was really exciting, but it
• 1:14:28
  didn't get that big buzz yet. Like when a Marvel movie drops
• 1:14:32
  and I was like, you need to go to the theaters and you go to
• 1:14:34
  end game or you go to Avengers movie and the theaters are
• 1:14:37
  packed. We need that to happen because
• 1:14:40
  it's it if it's not making money and it's not generating buzz and
• 1:14:43
  it's not generating people's interest, it's going to die
• 1:14:46
  again. And it seems like a lot of
• 1:14:47
  people they they need to win the the public eye of.
• 1:14:51
  The. DC Universe again, and that's
• 1:14:53
  what the biggest thing that needs to happen.
• 1:14:55
  The biggest problem is that there's a lot of art in what's
• 1:14:58
  happening here. The way James Gunn presents
• 1:15:01
  things like, not a spoiler here, but the season finale of
• 1:15:07
  Peacemaker Season 2 versus the hype that James Gunn tried to
• 1:15:12
  give it fucked it up. It fucked it up because the the
• 1:15:18
  finale was a beautiful piece of art, but everybody that watched
• 1:15:22
  it was like, this is trash. This wasn't what I expected.
• 1:15:26
  Everybody wanted that fanservice finale and they just they didn't
• 1:15:31
  get it. It was a beautiful piece of art.
• 1:15:33
  And so I think the problem is weapons.
• 1:15:37
  That movie didn't get enough buzz, but it was amazing.
• 1:15:43
  And we have to be able to encourage people to go to the
• 1:15:48
  theater and watch movies that are original and creative.
• 1:15:54
  And I don't know, like just aren't those typical formulas
• 1:16:01
  and algorithms or else we're just going to get stuck in just
• 1:16:05
  the same. We get pumped out over and over.
• 1:16:08
  And it's just we need art. And this movie was very artful.
• 1:16:12
  It was very political. It wasn't the political wokeness
• 1:16:15
  that everybody said it was. This movie was not about fucking
• 1:16:18
  immigration. It was about a greater worldview
• 1:16:23
  and and kindness. So yeah, that's my thing, man.
• 1:16:27
  I just I people need to value the art that is being presented
• 1:16:33
  to them for what it is. We need to stop putting
• 1:16:37
  expectations on films. I love doing fan theories as
• 1:16:42
  much as the next person, but doing fan theories is what
• 1:16:46
  ruined The Last Jedi for me. That movie sucked, let's be
• 1:16:49
  honest, but I. Wanda Vision was the one that
• 1:16:53
  everyone had an ending for and didn't get what they wanted and
• 1:16:55
  they thought it all sucked. And I thought Wanda Vision was
• 1:16:57
  excellent. Exactly.
• 1:16:59
  But like to The Last Jedi, like I thought Snoke was going to be
• 1:17:01
  this killer main character and I was like, it's got to be this.
• 1:17:05
  It's got to be that. Anything's going to make me
• 1:17:07
  happy. And then they kill him in The
• 1:17:09
  Last Jedi, like he never mattered.
• 1:17:11
  And I'm like, what the fuck is this?
• 1:17:14
  Right? So I don't know.
• 1:17:16
  That's my thing. Like we we got to stop putting
• 1:17:18
  expectations on things and just start enjoying things.
• 1:17:22
  So before we close out of here, everybody, this, this, this is
• 1:17:26
  the kilowatt Alex, my my best friend, my buddy.
• 1:17:30
  We we kind of are breaking a little bit of character here
• 1:17:33
  because in the world of the High Tension Wrestling Network, we
• 1:17:37
  don't like each other. So character wise, we're kind of
• 1:17:41
  breaking the the mold. And if you're watching this also
• 1:17:44
  on the High Tension Wrestling Network, we want to let you guys
• 1:17:47
  know that my content is also being put over there, which is
• 1:17:50
  thank you, Alex, for letting me do that and get more eyes on me.
• 1:17:54
  But we're, we're not going anywhere.
• 1:17:57
  I, I say we because I'm very proud of the high Tension
• 1:17:59
  Wrestling Network and I wanted to succeed, but I am in no shape
• 1:18:03
  or form at this point in time, owner of the high tension
• 1:18:07
  branding or anything. It's just a flag that I fly very
• 1:18:10
  high and I'm very, very proud of to be a part of.
• 1:18:13
  And I, I, I, I interject myself sometimes with some ideas.
• 1:18:17
  Sometimes they go through, sometimes they don't.
• 1:18:19
  But we, I guess what I wanted to say to you is what can people
• 1:18:22
  expect? What, where has High Tension
• 1:18:25
  Wrestling been? It's been kind of showcasing
• 1:18:27
  other people's shows. When do we get the reboot or the
• 1:18:32
  beginning of the new High Tension Wrestling Network
• 1:18:35
  universe? So the the background of that in
• 1:18:38
  story it, it the story that I have to give it to play into the
• 1:18:44
  reality of what has happened is that Wild LLC stole the company
• 1:18:49
  from me because I was an idiot and signed papers I shouldn't
• 1:18:52
  have signed. Right now, because we haven't
• 1:18:54
  been running shows, I get to still run the network.
• 1:18:59
  High Tension Wrestling. The brand is not mine, although
• 1:19:02
  it's in dispute. So there's an injunction.
• 1:19:07
  Nobody can run High Tension Wrestling shows until that's
• 1:19:12
  settled, right? In reality, running a promotion
• 1:19:16
  by yourself is one of the hardest things to do, especially
• 1:19:20
  when you're running in a city that you live 2 hours away from.
• 1:19:25
  And when cards are subject to change.
• 1:19:27
  And when venues suck. So and, and when.
• 1:19:32
  When partners suck. And you know, I'm not talking
• 1:19:36
  shit on Andrew. Andrew's my guy.
• 1:19:38
  Thank you, Andrew. I miss you, buddy.
• 1:19:41
  Unfortunately, like the earlier this year, we were set to team
• 1:19:44
  up with Suplex, we were set to team up with some other people
• 1:19:48
  that ended up we're hyping up shows, I'm investing money, I'm
• 1:19:52
  investing time and those things all just fell apart and they got
• 1:19:56
  shut down. So I pretty much had to shut
• 1:19:59
  myself down for the year and involve myself in the network to
• 1:20:02
  try to keep the name alive. And that's where we teamed up
• 1:20:06
  with our partners at the. Smash Master Wrestling and and
• 1:20:09
  let them kind of host some matches where some things have
• 1:20:14
  happened to where Nick Gage became our champion and that's a
• 1:20:20
  partnership that is interesting because that company has changed
• 1:20:25
  hands I. Think some fan owns it now,
• 1:20:28
  right? This is something like that.
• 1:20:31
  I thought if you this is where I get trouble, this is all right.
• 1:20:36
  If you follow Facebook, it's in dispute.
• 1:20:38
  Is it Alexander Bateman or is it Dan Reedy?
• 1:20:41
  I don't know. But yeah, October 25th we have a
• 1:20:46
  pretty big. We are main eventing a Smash
• 1:20:51
  Master show at the Ritz Theater and that is going to be probably
• 1:20:55
  1 of the biggest HTW matches there are.
• 1:20:59
  And that is the last time possibly that you see that that
• 1:21:06
  belt defended before we relaunch High Tension Wrestling.
• 1:21:12
  Probably more so in central PA because that's where I live now.
• 1:21:20
  You're living more Northeast Pennsylvania.
• 1:21:22
  I don't. I don't know.
• 1:21:24
  Just helping me out. I don't know, it's pretty
• 1:21:26
  central to me, but yeah, northeast central area,
• 1:21:30
  whatever. So we're basically where you
• 1:21:33
  live up to where I live is, is where I'm looking to run High
• 1:21:37
  Tension Wrestling and my WHW promotion as well.
• 1:21:43
  So 2026, we're working towards that.
• 1:21:46
  I've, you know, I moved to this new place, my finances are
• 1:21:49
  finally back in order. I can afford to run shows and
• 1:21:52
  lose money again. Hopefully that's not the case.
• 1:21:55
  No, no, no, definitely not. But I'll, I'll, I'll make a
• 1:21:59
  little bit of an announcement. I don't know when this is going
• 1:22:01
  to air just quite yet, but I, I, I may, I may show up at a smash
• 1:22:07
  show and, and check out what's going on there.
• 1:22:09
  And maybe maybe I have some developments that you may be
• 1:22:14
  interested in, but you'll you'll have to find out through the
• 1:22:16
  network and coming to the show. For sure, yeah, if it has
• 1:22:19
  anything to do with the Wild LLC.
• 1:22:21
  It does. It does.
• 1:22:22
  I have, I, I do. I can't.
• 1:22:23
  I can't lend my cards out just yet.
• 1:22:26
  But I do have some information regarding the Wild LLC and the
• 1:22:30
  status of high tension wrestling.
• 1:22:33
  I'll just leave you at that. I'll take it.
• 1:22:36
  And I won't kick you in the face.
• 1:22:37
  Again, I hope not, I definitely won't do that.
• 1:22:39
  Well, I've got dental insurance now so.
• 1:22:41
  There you go. I won't test it out, all right.
• 1:22:45
  All right. Yeah.
• 1:22:47
  So definitely guys go and check out the High Tension Wrestling
• 1:22:49
  Network, which just got monetized, which is super
• 1:22:52
  exciting. We've been working really hard
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  at that, trying to put content and matches out and clipping
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  everything. And there's full shows, there's
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  single shows, there's playlist for every star on the on the
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  roster. That YouTube channel has a lot
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  of love and put it work put into it.
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  Maybe some new partners, not so much joining the network, but
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  working with the network coming soon, which is pretty exciting
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  in that Northeast wrestling area.
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  But keep your eyes peeled. Follow high tension on all all
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  platforms and we'll see you guys at Smash the Smash.
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  What's it called monster? Is it the smash monster or?
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  Smash Monster 4 October 25th at the Ritz Theatre in Scranton,
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  PA. Yeah, so we'll find out what's
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  going on there because interesting stuff kind of behind
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  the scenes happening here. JS Hawthorne just announced tons
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  of back injuries that may be hanging up the boots for quite
• 1:23:44
  some time, that he needs some time to rest and and he was
• 1:23:47
  supposed to take on Nick Gage. Will he put together one more
• 1:23:50
  match? Nick Gage looks like he may be
• 1:23:53
  booked somewhere else. Who knows what's going Card
• 1:23:55
  always subject to change. And that is going to be on my
• 1:23:59
  gravestone, I'm sure. Card subject to change.
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  Yeah, yeah, for sure. But yeah, we'll figure it out.
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  Either way, this is a main event quality match and you're not
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  going to want to miss it regardless who's involved.
• 1:24:13
  Absolutely. All right, we'll end that.
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  Dear listeners, is Superman 2025, the dawn of the DCU, a
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  film of quiet power, bold ideas and deeply held hope.
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  Thank you for flying with us. Next time, we'll dive into
• 1:24:30
  another possibly movie. When we sit down together, me
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  and Alex will be doing this more often or we sit down and and and
• 1:24:37
  talk to the peeps and and see what's going on.
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  But depending on which movie we do, what may be on this side, it
• 1:24:46
  may be ATV show, it may be music.
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  We're we're we're open to all ideas.
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  I do. I do miss sitting down with and
• 1:24:52
  chatting with you and and doing this remote are in person remote
• 1:24:56
  is way easier for me to edit. So this is beautiful.
• 1:24:59
  But yeah, so we will we will definitely see more of this,
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  which is exciting. If you like this breakdown,
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  subscribe rate and comment your favorite Easter eggs or share
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  with someone who still believes superhero music movies can can
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  go. Until next time, stay grounded,
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  stay bold, and remember, even when you can't fly, you can
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  still stand for something. That'll do it for the knock hole
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  in high school ABJ podcast. We'll see you guys next time
• 1:25:25
  we're out of here.