Latest / The Breakfast Club / INTERVIEW: Jekalyn Carr Talks New ‘Legends’ Album, Gospel Music, Faith In God, Fashion Criticism + More
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- 0:00Speaker 1: I don't know every day.
- 0:03Speaker 2: Up the breakfast Club.
- 0:05Speaker 3: You don't finish for y'all, dump morning, everybody in stej
- 0:09Speaker 3: n V Jess hilarious, Charlamagne the guy, we are the
- 0:11Speaker 3: breakfast Club lawn the Roses here as well. We got
- 0:14Speaker 3: a special guest in.
- 0:14Speaker 4: The building and she walked in big regal. You hear
- 0:17Speaker 4: me like Royalty just stepped in the room.
- 0:19Speaker 3: Her album is out today, Ladies and gentlemen. Ja Kaelin Carr, welcome.
- 0:23Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 0:23Speaker 3: How are you feeling.
- 0:24Speaker 2: I'm feeling good. I have no reason to complain.
- 0:28Speaker 1: That's great, you know, great response and just overall I
- 0:32Speaker 1: just feel blessed.
- 0:34Speaker 5: You got some legends on this album, literally right. It
- 0:37Speaker 5: kicks off first song Bobby Jones. Yes, conversation with him, Yeah,
- 0:41Speaker 5: talk about you know, just bringing him into the project.
- 0:44Speaker 5: And while you decided to start off this tribute to
- 0:46Speaker 5: the legends and gospel with Bobby Jones.
- 0:48Speaker 1: Well, he has played a huge part in a lot
- 0:50Speaker 1: of our careers. I could speak for me specifically. I
- 0:54Speaker 1: got on his show when I was about seventy years old,
- 0:58Speaker 1: war I didn't even know who I was. And then
- 1:00Speaker 1: and after that I released my breakout single Grater is
- 1:03Speaker 1: coming and he you know, invited me onto the show
- 1:06Speaker 1: and it just went from there. So it was his
- 1:08Speaker 1: show that really really pushed a lot of our songs.
- 1:11Speaker 1: And yeah, I was like, I'm honored to have him
- 1:14Speaker 1: a part of that introduction.
- 1:15Speaker 6: How how did you choose which legends to collaborate with
- 1:19Speaker 6: and what criteria did you use to define legend?
- 1:23Speaker 1: Yeah, well, the thing is, I studied my songs, so
- 1:27Speaker 1: I have to hear who I hear on the song
- 1:30Speaker 1: versus just.
- 1:30Speaker 2: Putting someone on there.
- 1:32Speaker 1: And then there's so many legends, right, and I couldn't
- 1:35Speaker 1: get everybody on this one album, which is why I'm
- 1:38Speaker 1: now working on Chapter two because it's just so many.
- 1:42Speaker 2: I think that.
- 1:43Speaker 1: These people are just huge staples, and not just gospel
- 1:46Speaker 1: but in music period. They're the blueprint and it's just
- 1:49Speaker 1: time to honor them and to let them know that
- 1:51Speaker 1: we appreciate them. I believe that what you honor will
- 1:54Speaker 1: honor you. Gospel artist's son.
- 1:58Speaker 4: We're doing with hip hop all time.
- 2:01Speaker 2: It's so many.
- 2:02Speaker 1: You have Pastor Shirley, you have the Clark Sisters, Donald Lawne's,
- 2:08Speaker 1: Kirk Card, Kirk Franklin. I mean, the list goes on
- 2:11Speaker 1: and on, like it's just and then there's constantly legends
- 2:14Speaker 1: being raised up to so it's just, it's a lot
- 2:16Speaker 1: of them.
- 2:17Speaker 3: I want to go back if you don't mind. Yes,
- 2:19Speaker 3: what got you into doing gospel?
- 2:22Speaker 4: Jesus?
- 2:23Speaker 3: And besides Jesus, what what you know? Why did you
- 2:28Speaker 3: want to make.
- 2:28Speaker 2: It a career?
- 2:29Speaker 1: So obviously I was raised in church, and then also
- 2:33Speaker 1: I come from a singing family. But even though I
- 2:35Speaker 1: came from a singing family, I believe that sometimes just
- 2:37Speaker 1: because you were around it, that doesn't mean you're supposed
- 2:40Speaker 1: to do it. But it was just in me, like
- 2:42Speaker 1: I couldn't escape it. Every time I turned around, I
- 2:44Speaker 1: was singing. I was in the mirror. I was singing
- 2:46Speaker 1: to the grass as if the grass was my crowd.
- 2:50Speaker 1: My cousins would come over, I will make a choir
- 2:53Speaker 1: with them, like I just loved it. And honestly, I
- 2:55Speaker 1: didn't even know that, you know, my career would be
- 2:59Speaker 1: to this capacity city.
- 3:00Speaker 2: I was just doing what I love to do.
- 3:03Speaker 1: Yeah, And at a very young age, my dad he
- 3:06Speaker 1: came off his job so that he could manage me
- 3:08Speaker 1: and go on the road with me, and he saw
- 3:11Speaker 1: the vision cultivate distression Oh yeah, Yeah, it took a
- 3:16Speaker 1: lot of faith honestly, you know, because you're going you're
- 3:19Speaker 1: going from something where you know, you have stability of income,
- 3:22Speaker 1: you can take care of your family, all these things.
- 3:24Speaker 1: Like my life is literally a miracle. It was a
- 3:28Speaker 1: faith walk. But you know it's been a family thing
- 3:31Speaker 1: since the beginning. They again, they saw my gift, worked it,
- 3:34Speaker 1: cultivated it, and I am where I am today.
- 3:37Speaker 3: But did you realize that you quote unquote made it.
- 3:40Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I would say when I heard my
- 3:45Speaker 1: music outside of my hometown, that was really big for me,
- 3:49Speaker 1: because yes, Memphis innes Cy Westmaveris Arkansas Country, and so I, yeah,
- 3:57Speaker 1: when I heard my music outside of being played in
- 4:00Speaker 1: my region, that's when I knew that it was it
- 4:02Speaker 1: was getting serious.
- 4:03Speaker 3: Where was that?
- 4:04Speaker 4: What did you hear?
- 4:05Speaker 3: What region?
- 4:06Speaker 4: Where were you?
- 4:07Speaker 5: Well?
- 4:07Speaker 1: So I started traveling heavily at the age of thirteen,
- 4:10Speaker 1: and The Greatest Coming was released around fourteen fifteen, So
- 4:14Speaker 1: I wouldn't even be able to tell you where I
- 4:16Speaker 1: was because I was traveling literally from city to city.
- 4:20Speaker 2: But I just knew, yeah, it was getting real.
- 4:23Speaker 3: It's your childhood traveling that young because you started early,
- 4:26Speaker 3: were you able to do the things that kids do.
- 4:28Speaker 2: Yeah, I was.
- 4:29Speaker 1: That's the interesting thing because I was an active child,
- 4:32Speaker 1: and my parents made sure that they balanced very very well,
- 4:36Speaker 1: because of course I was homeschool too, but I modeled.
- 4:41Speaker 1: I did a whole lot of things because I just
- 4:43Speaker 1: loved being active in all of that, and I played
- 4:47Speaker 1: with my dolls.
- 4:47Speaker 2: I did all these things.
- 4:49Speaker 1: They just made sure that I had a very balanced
- 4:52Speaker 1: life because they also made sure that I enjoyed doing
- 4:56Speaker 1: what I do. At the same time, it didn't feel
- 4:58Speaker 1: like pressure, like even now it doesn' and feel like pressure.
- 5:00Speaker 2: I just it's my happy place.
- 5:03Speaker 5: Now you talk about balance. One of the things that
- 5:04Speaker 5: I like about you, And I don't know how hard
- 5:06Speaker 5: this is for you, but you're very young. You dress amazing.
- 5:10Speaker 5: People do criticize that sometimes though, right, yes, But and
- 5:13Speaker 5: being criticiod yes, because you know they give.
- 5:16Speaker 3: They give.
- 5:17Speaker 5: If you're a gospel artists or a person in the
- 5:19Speaker 5: faith world, people think that there's a certain way you're
- 5:21Speaker 5: supposed to show up. And because you have your fashion
- 5:23Speaker 5: and your boutiques and different things, you get flack for
- 5:26Speaker 5: if things are too tight or like whatever. But you
- 5:28Speaker 5: still keep the balance of being young and liking to
- 5:30Speaker 5: do all those things. How do you handle that?
- 5:32Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I just do what I do.
- 5:35Speaker 1: I feel like if I'm not offending God, then you know,
- 5:38Speaker 1: I don't see the issue in that I dress. I've
- 5:41Speaker 1: never dressed, not dressed, rather for where i am. If
- 5:46Speaker 1: I'm at a gala, I'm a dressed like I'm at
- 5:47Speaker 1: a gala. If I'm at church, I'm a dressed like
- 5:49Speaker 1: I'm at church. But all at the same time, it's
- 5:51Speaker 1: still respectful, it's still classy and elegant and all of that.
- 5:56Speaker 1: I think people need to see that it's okay for
- 5:59Speaker 1: you to love God and look good at the same time.
- 6:01Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with your body shape, none
- 6:03Speaker 1: of that. If you look good, you just look good,
- 6:06Speaker 1: point blank period.
- 6:07Speaker 6: But who are these people though, because I mean, have
- 6:08Speaker 6: they never not seen somebody be Easter sun.
- 6:12Speaker 4: The lady?
- 6:16Speaker 1: I'm I think a lot of it just had I've
- 6:19Speaker 1: been criticized for my body shape when it comes to
- 6:22Speaker 1: certain things that I wear, So I think that's most
- 6:25Speaker 1: of the time the issue.
- 6:26Speaker 2: But yeah, but that's that's divine too, and I can't
- 6:30Speaker 2: do anything about that.
- 6:31Speaker 4: But it's divine. What do you see when you see
- 6:33Speaker 4: a beautiful woman with a nice body, like good love.
- 6:38Speaker 2: Jesus.
- 6:40Speaker 5: Yeah, but I think it too because your family and
- 6:44Speaker 5: your sound is so rooted in like that whole school
- 6:46Speaker 5: gospel where like there's so many rules and things you
- 6:49Speaker 5: can't do, and even that you handle that well too
- 6:52Speaker 5: with like on this project, very old school sound of gospel,
- 6:55Speaker 5: but like the melodies pick up a bit, there's like
- 6:58Speaker 5: a little bit of country in there at one point.
- 7:00Speaker 5: That balance is there also. I don't know how you
- 7:03Speaker 5: bring that in because they are not kind of like
- 7:05Speaker 5: new things and like that old school gospel.
- 7:06Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and a lot of them they actually said
- 7:08Speaker 1: that you got me singing this this young people music.
- 7:12Speaker 2: Miss Dottie In particularly say that. But they loved it.
- 7:15Speaker 1: And the goal was to of course, you know, honoring them,
- 7:19Speaker 1: but also making sure that the world know these people
- 7:22Speaker 1: still have it, like their voices, their personality there, everything
- 7:28Speaker 1: about them is still a staple. And so I tried
- 7:31Speaker 1: to make sure that there were songs that kind of
- 7:34Speaker 1: pulled them out of the box, you know, songs that
- 7:37Speaker 1: they probably wouldn't have done before, or maybe they would have.
- 7:41Speaker 1: I just wanted to make sure I went in a
- 7:42Speaker 1: creative route with the album.
- 7:44Speaker 6: Because when you go into studio with some of these legends,
- 7:47Speaker 6: like in your Long Dadam, Shirley Caesar, what shift happens
- 7:50Speaker 6: in you creatively.
- 7:52Speaker 4: Like would you be are you like a student peer
- 7:55Speaker 4: or just something else.
- 7:57Speaker 1: So thankfully these legends, they literally was just like whatever
- 8:03Speaker 1: you want, Jaquelin, and so I would literally study the
- 8:07Speaker 1: songs before I go in. I knew what I heard
- 8:10Speaker 1: in different parts, and then there was stuff that, you know,
- 8:12Speaker 1: while they were singing that I would hear spait the moment.
- 8:15Speaker 1: But I feel like I'm in that producer's, you know, mindset,
- 8:19Speaker 1: but I'm always also in that student mindset because they're
- 8:22Speaker 1: always dropping gems and you know, and then sometimes it
- 8:26Speaker 1: could not just be what they say, it's how they
- 8:28Speaker 1: handle certain things, like you know, even speaking of Yolanda,
- 8:32Speaker 1: like just expressing how it's okay to live, to enjoy life,
- 8:37Speaker 1: you know, and again still love God at the same time.
- 8:40Speaker 3: That balance.
- 8:40Speaker 4: So, yeah, do they respect you?
- 8:42Speaker 1: And they do, they do, and they are all literally
- 8:46Speaker 1: thanking me when it comes to this album. But I'm
- 8:50Speaker 1: just honored to have them, like I'm honored, literally honored
- 8:53Speaker 1: to honor them, Like they tell me all.
- 8:54Speaker 2: The time, just how proud they am, they are and
- 8:57Speaker 2: all that. I think it's beautiful.
- 8:59Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 8:59Speaker 6: I saw a quote I'm a BB one as he said,
- 9:01Speaker 6: working with Jacqueline Car the producer is different from Jacqueline Car.
- 9:06Speaker 4: I'm so sorry.
- 9:07Speaker 2: It's okay.
- 9:08Speaker 6: Working with JaQuel and Carter producer is different from JaQuel
- 9:11Speaker 6: and Carter singer.
- 9:12Speaker 4: So how to produce this album? Like challenge you in
- 9:15Speaker 4: that way?
- 9:17Speaker 2: It challenged me because you just never know when you're working.
- 9:19Speaker 1: I mean, I'm working with elites, right, so you just
- 9:23Speaker 1: never know what you're getting, what to expect. But I
- 9:28Speaker 1: just literally I had to pray. I had to keep
- 9:30Speaker 1: God through this whole thing. And again, they made it
- 9:32Speaker 1: easy for me. It wasn't like, no, I'm gonna do
- 9:35Speaker 1: it this way. I'm gonna do it like because I'm
- 9:37Speaker 1: a legend that like. They literally came in and was like,
- 9:41Speaker 1: tell me what you need and that's what I'll give you.
- 9:44Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you know what You've been seeing
- 9:46Speaker 3: this a lot more recently, You've been seeing the blend
- 9:49Speaker 3: between gospel and hip hop or gospel and other genres
- 9:52Speaker 3: of music. What's your thoughts on that. I know some
- 9:53Speaker 3: people hate it, some people say it shouldn't be that way,
- 9:56Speaker 3: But I love the fact that you're that people are
- 9:59Speaker 3: infusing with, whether it's Glorrilla or Little Baby or whatever.
- 10:02Speaker 3: Maybe what's your thoughts on it?
- 10:03Speaker 1: You know, I haven't really put much thought into it
- 10:05Speaker 1: because I can't really tell. You can't tell people what
- 10:07Speaker 1: to do. You know, whatever what you feel like is
- 10:10Speaker 1: best for your career.
- 10:11Speaker 4: You know you do that.
- 10:12Speaker 2: I just try to make sure I'm doing what I'm
- 10:15Speaker 2: supposed to do.
- 10:16Speaker 4: Would you do a record with a hip hop hoters?
- 10:18Speaker 1: It depends, It really depends. I'm very strategic on you know,
- 10:22Speaker 1: how I move and how I do things, So I mean,
- 10:24Speaker 1: you never know. But for right now, I don't know.
- 10:28Speaker 1: I ain't putting any thought into it. So I can't
- 10:30Speaker 1: really say.
- 10:30Speaker 4: Be hard to turn down a woman from mistress.
- 10:32Speaker 5: And yes, I know you're very protective to piggyback off
- 10:40Speaker 5: and be right, You're very protective over.
- 10:42Speaker 7: Your brand in this.
- 10:43Speaker 5: I've been told that you would turned down like music
- 10:45Speaker 5: deals and everything just so you could stay independent and
- 10:47Speaker 5: working with your family because you want to be able
- 10:49Speaker 5: to control how they place you musically.
- 10:51Speaker 6: Is that true?
- 10:52Speaker 4: Yes?
- 10:52Speaker 1: And just be able to be in control period, you know,
- 10:55Speaker 1: not having to answer to anybody, and it also keeps
- 10:58Speaker 1: you in a position where you know you're doing what
- 11:00Speaker 1: you want to do, what you feel is best for
- 11:02Speaker 1: your career. For me, not everything is about a business move,
- 11:06Speaker 1: you know, because at the end of the day, I
- 11:08Speaker 1: keep the people in the forefront of my mind and
- 11:10Speaker 1: what they need, because that's what it's really about. Is
- 11:12Speaker 1: this about me trying to build my own you know,
- 11:16Speaker 1: little thing or whatever, or is it about me really
- 11:19Speaker 1: really positioning myself to help people? And the only way
- 11:22Speaker 1: I can do that is if you know, sometimes there's
- 11:25Speaker 1: not a lot of hands in there.
- 11:28Speaker 2: Throughout the process. How much money was it?
- 11:31Speaker 7: Can we ask you that said? Again, what was the
- 11:33Speaker 7: deal that you turned down?
- 11:35Speaker 5: Now, when I heard that, I was, I mean, I
- 11:38Speaker 5: know you're rooted in family, but I'm like, whoa, there
- 11:40Speaker 5: probably was a lot.
- 11:41Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say, but I will say, you know again,
- 11:46Speaker 1: like I ain't never really been money happy, Like you know,
- 11:49Speaker 1: I'm a money magnet, so you know that makes it
- 11:53Speaker 1: also just like you know, money answered to me. So
- 11:56Speaker 1: you're not going to present me with anything as if
- 11:59Speaker 1: you know, I'm supposed to just move upon it and
- 12:03Speaker 1: because again in the forefront of my mind is always
- 12:06Speaker 1: the people.
- 12:07Speaker 6: I'm gonna ask that question, and Layne just asked in
- 12:09Speaker 6: a different way, if you had to tie ten percent
- 12:11Speaker 6: of the money that you had gotten, how much would
- 12:13Speaker 6: it be? You know what.
- 12:18Speaker 4: I And he got a song called he Don't Miss.
- 12:22Speaker 1: Yes, it's a little country he don't I know as
- 12:25Speaker 1: he doesn't, but you know he don't. Just hit a
- 12:27Speaker 1: little harder that song, right there is just the song
- 12:31Speaker 1: about just confidence in God. There's never been a season
- 12:35Speaker 1: of any one of our lives where he missed, where
- 12:38Speaker 1: he did not come through, he did not answer even
- 12:41Speaker 1: when it wasn't when we thought it should have been
- 12:43Speaker 1: how we thought it should have been. At the end
- 12:45Speaker 1: of the day, you know, he's been good, he's been faithful.
- 12:48Speaker 1: And there's no battle you could ever face, whether it's sickness,
- 12:52Speaker 1: whether it is you know, relationship with it, whatever the
- 12:56Speaker 1: problem is, there's no battle that he cannot win for you,
- 12:59Speaker 1: because some some times you gotta understand it's not even
- 13:01Speaker 1: on you all the time to fight some things. He
- 13:04Speaker 1: wants to fight for you, and everything he has fought
- 13:07Speaker 1: for me is always one for me.
- 13:10Speaker 4: What would you say to somebody who's in a season
- 13:11Speaker 4: where they feel like God is over them.
- 13:17Speaker 2: The thing is, we got to understand that we all
- 13:19Speaker 2: go through those seasons.
- 13:20Speaker 1: The most God loving person goes through those seasons where
- 13:25Speaker 1: it seems like God isn't hearing me, he doesn't remember me.
- 13:29Speaker 2: You know, how could you let this happen and that happen?
- 13:32Speaker 1: But you got to understand that God is so faithful
- 13:35Speaker 1: and he's so strategic about your life that he wants
- 13:39Speaker 1: to ensure that you are exactly where you're supposed to
- 13:41Speaker 1: be when you're supposed to be. But sometimes you have
- 13:43Speaker 1: to go through certain things, you know, to ensure that
- 13:47Speaker 1: you can handle what is coming. Because one thing I've
- 13:51Speaker 1: learned is that He doesn't want us to have the
- 13:54Speaker 1: blessing and and when we don't have what it takes,
- 13:56Speaker 1: the character and all that to keep it, we lose it.
- 14:00Speaker 2: Oh, he has to build us in the process to
- 14:02Speaker 2: ensure that we get it and.
- 14:04Speaker 7: We keep it.
- 14:05Speaker 5: Sure, I know you're celebrating over ten years in ministry,
- 14:07Speaker 5: bring your music and different things, right, how do you
- 14:10Speaker 5: reckon when you go through things personally like you're doing
- 14:13Speaker 5: all this for other people and ministering and all this
- 14:15Speaker 5: but like when Jacquelin is going through something.
- 14:17Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a very great support system, very great
- 14:21Speaker 1: support system who always encourages me. And the thing about
- 14:25Speaker 1: it is everything I tell y'all to do in my songs,
- 14:28Speaker 1: I do it myself. You know what I'm saying. It's
- 14:31Speaker 1: like God will also ensure that way it remains authentic.
- 14:35Speaker 1: And I am very sure about what I'm singing about
- 14:40Speaker 1: because it's one thing for you to sing it, and
- 14:41Speaker 1: it's another thing for you to really know that this
- 14:44Speaker 1: actually works. So yeah, I pull on those people when
- 14:47Speaker 1: I feel like I can't pray for myself, I pull
- 14:49Speaker 1: on those people. I put in, you know, inspirational messages
- 14:53Speaker 1: in my ear to ensure that I'm encouraged. I have
- 14:55Speaker 1: my moments. You know, it doesn't mean that every day
- 14:58Speaker 1: is all cute and all that, but I just also
- 15:02Speaker 1: choose to not stay there.
- 15:04Speaker 2: That makes sense.
- 15:05Speaker 3: I was gonna ask, how do you ignore the noise?
- 15:07Speaker 3: If you even do ignore it?
- 15:08Speaker 1: Right?
- 15:08Speaker 3: You talked about sometimes they criticize what you wear. I'm
- 15:11Speaker 3: sure they criticize your business deals, So like, how do
- 15:14Speaker 3: you ignore the noise because you're doing it for a
- 15:16Speaker 3: group of people that say that you know, they forgives,
- 15:21Speaker 3: they're praising God, but on the same turn, they're so
- 15:24Speaker 3: critical to you. Yeah, how do you get rid of
- 15:26Speaker 3: all that noise?
- 15:27Speaker 1: One thing I had to I couldn't be in denial
- 15:30Speaker 1: when it comes to myself. It comes with the territory.
- 15:33Speaker 1: It comes with the territory. Does it make it right?
- 15:41Speaker 2: But here's the thing.
- 15:41Speaker 1: It's not always from church people. It's from every When
- 15:44Speaker 1: you when you're on the front line, you're on the
- 15:45Speaker 1: front line. You never know where you're getting it from.
- 15:47Speaker 1: And I don't do my research to figure out where
- 15:49Speaker 1: I'm getting it from, whether it's church people or not.
- 15:52Speaker 1: But the thing is, one thing I love about my
- 15:55Speaker 1: parents is they help build me before all.
- 15:59Speaker 2: This, and it helps me along my journey.
- 16:02Speaker 1: So when I hear somebody say something, and most of
- 16:04Speaker 1: the time I don't even really see it, like I
- 16:07Speaker 1: get a synopsis, you know, with some people they'll tell me, oh,
- 16:09Speaker 1: this has happened, d da da da da. I don't
- 16:11Speaker 1: really see it because I don't really care to see it.
- 16:13Speaker 1: Like you know, I try to stay focused and all that.
- 16:15Speaker 1: But if I just so happen to see it or
- 16:18Speaker 1: hear it, I look at it again, I laugh I
- 16:21Speaker 1: legit lab like you can exit anybody. I literally laugh,
- 16:25Speaker 1: because especially when there's no harm in what you're doing,
- 16:28Speaker 1: and people are entitled to their own opinions.
- 16:31Speaker 2: And you have to be okay with that they are,
- 16:33Speaker 2: but not their own facts though that too. Now that's
- 16:37Speaker 2: where it's like, Okay, now you're doing a bit much.
- 16:39Speaker 1: But at the same time, I know my truth, you know,
- 16:42Speaker 1: so I'm not finna sit here and try to convince
- 16:44Speaker 1: you of that.
- 16:44Speaker 2: I let my life do that.
- 16:46Speaker 7: I know you have your radio show too, or family fair.
- 16:48Speaker 5: Do you address certain things when people are trying to
- 16:51Speaker 5: figure out the truth, Like do you bring that onto
- 16:52Speaker 5: your show?
- 16:53Speaker 6: No?
- 16:53Speaker 2: I don't bring it into my space. I don't bring
- 16:55Speaker 2: it on my social media. None of that.
- 16:57Speaker 1: I refuse to give name anativity in my platform, Like
- 17:01Speaker 1: I get to control the temperature and not just of
- 17:04Speaker 1: my my life in real time, but social media too,
- 17:08Speaker 1: Like you know, you can say what you want to
- 17:09Speaker 1: say on your page, but when it comes to my page,
- 17:12Speaker 1: you know you're gonna get deleted or blocked.
- 17:15Speaker 2: That's the reason, is the reason. Why is there? They're
- 17:18Speaker 2: like how you block block?
- 17:20Speaker 7: How do you handle people being in your personal relationship?
- 17:23Speaker 5: Like I know the last time we knew of you
- 17:25Speaker 5: in a relationship was with Juwan Taylor and then that
- 17:28Speaker 5: just went away.
- 17:28Speaker 7: We don't know to this day what happened.
- 17:30Speaker 5: And he just recently posted that there's an engagement and
- 17:33Speaker 5: a kid coming, Like, is there any info that we
- 17:37Speaker 5: get on what happened?
- 17:38Speaker 7: And do you plan to do that?
- 17:40Speaker 2: Like here's the I'm tiled.
- 17:45Speaker 5: She was becau a lot of conversations about they were
- 17:46Speaker 5: dating to marry, and we thought that that was going
- 17:48Speaker 5: to be the next step, y right, that follows you
- 17:50Speaker 5: and then we just didn't hear anything else.
- 17:51Speaker 1: Yeah, but just like I'm but just like any other
- 17:54Speaker 1: relationship or any situation, it just didn't work out. The
- 17:57Speaker 1: thing it was with me is you know, everybody, when
- 18:00Speaker 1: you live in the limelight, you know you have to
- 18:03Speaker 1: count up that cost. But it just didn't work out.
- 18:05Speaker 1: I also did not know that he was getting married.
- 18:07Speaker 1: We hadn't dated. It's been like close to five years.
- 18:11Speaker 1: But yeah, like, yeah, it just didn't work out.
- 18:15Speaker 4: Image of questions people like that, Gary moved from your
- 18:16Speaker 4: prayer list.
- 18:23Speaker 5: So to see you doing that young and you got
- 18:25Speaker 5: your career, it's like, okay, God is God do the thing.
- 18:29Speaker 2: Yeah, here's the thing.
- 18:31Speaker 1: I don't carry any animosity anything in my heart when
- 18:35Speaker 1: it comes to anybody. If I carred with, if I
- 18:39Speaker 1: care with one of my may as well care with everybody.
- 18:42Speaker 1: Like I don't know, Like I still wish everybody well.
- 18:46Speaker 1: I still wish that everybody prosper, everybody thriving life. Whether
- 18:50Speaker 1: it worked out for us or not, it is, it
- 18:52Speaker 1: just didn't work out. God knew God, so I can't
- 18:54Speaker 1: argue with that, you know. So I've and then I've
- 18:57Speaker 1: moved for I don't dated since then. I've moved for
- 19:00Speaker 1: Bard since then. Yeah, I don't think they are.
- 19:08Speaker 4: Removing people from your prayers. Sometimes you give it to God.
- 19:11Speaker 4: Like you know what I was watching. I went to
- 19:13Speaker 4: go see a play last night. It was called an
- 19:15Speaker 4: Old Happy Day.
- 19:16Speaker 6: And one of the things that they said in the play, uh,
- 19:19Speaker 6: the guy looked at other guy and he goes, God
- 19:22Speaker 6: don't want you to mind the business of your your
- 19:25Speaker 6: enemies or something like that, like it's not it's not
- 19:27Speaker 6: your business what God does to your enemies.
- 19:30Speaker 4: That's what it was. And I was like, that's powerful.
- 19:32Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true because you know, when you give it
- 19:35Speaker 1: to him, it's up to him. He knows how to
- 19:37Speaker 1: take it. But we're not gonna say he's my enemy.
- 19:42Speaker 1: And the truth of the matter is, sometimes you don't
- 19:45Speaker 1: even know who your enemies are. That's why it's important
- 19:47Speaker 1: to keep it in his hands and you keep moving forward.
- 19:49Speaker 2: That's what I try to do. I try to stay focused.
- 19:52Speaker 2: I don't even focus on them.
- 19:53Speaker 7: You know, I'm sure you has to change, not even
- 19:55Speaker 7: just the dating stuff, but.
- 19:56Speaker 2: Just okay, I'm moving on moving the things.
- 20:01Speaker 5: That you put out there in generalize yourself personally because
- 20:05Speaker 5: everything is growing with you, Like the celebrity is so big,
- 20:08Speaker 5: Like people call you like the mini Shirley Csons.
- 20:11Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you live and you learn some things.
- 20:13Speaker 1: You learn to do better, how to handle things better.
- 20:16Speaker 1: I don't see how it could have been hidden for
- 20:19Speaker 1: long because people started to see me at the games
- 20:23Speaker 1: and all of that. They would post before I would
- 20:25Speaker 1: and so but yeah, I've learned to just protect my
- 20:29Speaker 1: privacy even more things that really mean a lot to me,
- 20:31Speaker 1: because it's just a lot that you, you know, you
- 20:35Speaker 1: just you you can cut down on when you just
- 20:38Speaker 1: protected it was your.
- 20:40Speaker 4: Prayers had the Chiefs winning all them Super Bowls.
- 20:42Speaker 1: I'm a Dallas cowboy fan.
- 20:51Speaker 2: Exactly.
- 20:56Speaker 3: You know, when you do, they try to keep you
- 20:58Speaker 3: in the box, because I see you try to step
- 21:00Speaker 3: outside the box, right if I've seen you on on
- 21:02Speaker 3: the radar with Gabe, I see things that typical maybe
- 21:05Speaker 3: gospel artists don't necessarily do. Do they try to keep
- 21:08Speaker 3: you in that boy be like, nah, don't do that.
- 21:10Speaker 1: Uh sometimes, But I don't, you know, I don't go
- 21:13Speaker 1: by what they say, what people say. I do what
- 21:16Speaker 1: I feel is supposed to what j quelen Car is
- 21:19Speaker 1: supposed to be doing. As long as I feel like
- 21:21Speaker 1: it's not of offensive to my brand or anything of
- 21:25Speaker 1: that sort.
- 21:25Speaker 3: I don't think think about twice about coming up here.
- 21:28Speaker 2: No, not at all, not at all.
- 21:30Speaker 5: Yeah, I've yeah, but then you own her business, okay, listen, Okay,
- 21:38Speaker 5: because I'm in the business. But I'm also supporting the
- 21:41Speaker 5: brand as exactly it's there.
- 21:43Speaker 7: Thank you.
- 21:44Speaker 6: I love what you're doing with the with the with
- 21:46Speaker 6: the album though, because I feel like there always should
- 21:49Speaker 6: be a bridge between generations, right, because I truly believe
- 21:53Speaker 6: that greatness doesn't expire, it'll.
- 21:55Speaker 2: All exactly exactly.
- 21:57Speaker 6: So what do you hope younger gospel or worship artists
- 22:00Speaker 6: take away from this legends right.
- 22:01Speaker 1: I want them to continue to number one, honor those
- 22:05Speaker 1: that are the forerunners, those who have been the blueprint
- 22:09Speaker 1: and gospel music. Because I have a little sister, I
- 22:11Speaker 1: have nieces and nephew. They need to know, you know
- 22:14Speaker 1: where it all started, how it all began, you how
- 22:16Speaker 1: to read the Franklin. I mean, the list goes on
- 22:18Speaker 1: and on and on and then also I want them
- 22:20Speaker 1: to grab a hold of the messages. You know, it's
- 22:23Speaker 1: not even just about the name. It's also about the
- 22:26Speaker 1: message this album, you know, it's really it's orchestrated to
- 22:32Speaker 1: help you get to a place of happiness, a place
- 22:34Speaker 1: of wholeness and knowing that you deserve better in life.
- 22:38Speaker 1: I don't care what your past failures were.
- 22:40Speaker 2: I don't care what you did or didn't do.
- 22:43Speaker 1: At the end of the day, you can't do anything
- 22:45Speaker 1: about that, But you can do something about what you
- 22:47Speaker 1: do today. The decision you make to to have a
- 22:49Speaker 1: song on their call I Break, and that song talks
- 22:52Speaker 1: about that, breaking negative cycles and all these things that's
- 22:56Speaker 1: been sabotaging your happiness.
- 22:58Speaker 2: And I want them to gravitate that and move forward
- 23:01Speaker 2: in life, move forward.
- 23:03Speaker 4: That that's what I'm going to don't you expound on
- 23:05Speaker 4: that a little bit?
- 23:06Speaker 6: How do you see this album like connecting to your
- 23:08Speaker 6: mission outside of music, because it's clear you have a
- 23:10Speaker 6: mission out side of music.
- 23:13Speaker 1: Connected that because you know, I feel like it's relatable,
- 23:16Speaker 1: especially with everything that is happening, not just around us,
- 23:19Speaker 1: but just in people's personal lives in general. You know,
- 23:23Speaker 1: sometimes it's like one thing after the next. But I
- 23:27Speaker 1: need people to know with this album, just because it
- 23:30Speaker 1: looks like the negative is happening, it ain't the end
- 23:33Speaker 1: for you.
- 23:33Speaker 2: It's not the end of your story. You know, I
- 23:35Speaker 2: said last night. If God is not pulling.
- 23:38Speaker 1: The plug on your good news and your your miracles
- 23:42Speaker 1: and all these things, don't you pull a plug on it.
- 23:44Speaker 1: It's just the matter of time before it becomes your reality.
- 23:48Speaker 1: But you got to keep pushing. Sometimes you gotta fight
- 23:50Speaker 1: or pray just a little harder, you know, to see
- 23:53Speaker 1: it come to pass.
- 23:54Speaker 5: The title track of the album too, don't think, Yes,
- 23:56Speaker 5: it gives that as well too, Like listen, I know
- 23:58Speaker 5: you get tired, Yes.
- 24:00Speaker 7: You can keep going, Yeah, can keep pushing.
- 24:01Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a reason why that scripture is there. Be
- 24:03Speaker 2: not weary.
- 24:04Speaker 1: But he knew we would get weary sometimes, you know,
- 24:08Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, you cannot allow
- 24:10Speaker 1: that to overpower what he said because it is not
- 24:13Speaker 1: like what he said. He can take it back or
- 24:15Speaker 1: it's not going to happen. Anything that comes out of
- 24:18Speaker 1: his mouth is guaranteed. You have to stand on that,
- 24:21Speaker 1: and no matter how which way the wind blows you,
- 24:25Speaker 1: what happens, you have to know he's not moving from it.
- 24:28Speaker 1: I would say, for example, I had been getting word
- 24:32Speaker 1: after word after word that I was going to win
- 24:34Speaker 1: a Grammy, and Da da da didn't see it.
- 24:38Speaker 2: All these things. It looked like the opposite.
- 24:40Speaker 1: Well, I'm going into the studio this year to record
- 24:43Speaker 1: don't faint, and they're texting me congratulations, congratulations, and I'm like,
- 24:47Speaker 1: congratulations for what and they're.
- 24:49Speaker 2: Like, you just want to grab me.
- 24:51Speaker 1: So I told people all the time, just because it's
- 24:54Speaker 1: not happening now, that does not mean it's not going
- 24:58Speaker 1: to happen. But you cannot faint, You cannot think.
- 25:01Speaker 4: That's the biggest thing, like people be having faithful Do
- 25:03Speaker 4: you have patience?
- 25:04Speaker 1: Exactly? Got to have patience, And it's okay. You gotta
- 25:07Speaker 1: be real with God too, It's okay. To admit, Okay, God,
- 25:10Speaker 1: I'm getting a little impatient. You know, this is getting
- 25:13Speaker 1: a little intense for me, because he see it anyway,
- 25:16Speaker 1: and he can help you through it.
- 25:18Speaker 2: Just be real with him. People think God is so complicated.
- 25:21Speaker 2: He's not.
- 25:22Speaker 1: He knows everything about you. Just talk to him and
- 25:25Speaker 1: let him know how you're feeling, and I promise you
- 25:27Speaker 1: he's going to help you.
- 25:28Speaker 4: That's That's how I've.
- 25:29Speaker 6: Been shifting my prayers or the way I talk to
- 25:31Speaker 6: God lately, because I think sometimes you get down on
- 25:34Speaker 6: your knees and you start praying here telling God things
- 25:37Speaker 6: that you think God don't already know. And God knows
- 25:40Speaker 6: what you need. God knows what you want, like he
- 25:42Speaker 6: knows all your desires. He knows what you're dealing with,
- 25:45Speaker 6: what your challenges are. So it's like I don't have
- 25:47Speaker 6: to tell God that. That's what I tell my therapist.
- 25:50Speaker 6: A therapists don't know.
- 25:51Speaker 2: God knows.
- 25:52Speaker 4: I think with God, I just I really just be
- 25:53Speaker 4: asking for scrimping answers.
- 25:56Speaker 2: Yeah that's it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sometimes.
- 25:57Speaker 4: Not even answer. Just give me the script to deal with.
- 25:59Speaker 1: Whatever exactly, and he'll help you. He'll help you through it.
- 26:03Speaker 1: And also when you don't know how to pray. You
- 26:06Speaker 1: can also pray God, how should I pray? I mean,
- 26:09Speaker 1: He's gonna help you through all that. He can just
- 26:11Speaker 1: go to leave you out there. You know, That's what
- 26:13Speaker 1: I've realized along my journey and many others. He's your
- 26:16Speaker 1: helper and let him help you. That's not for me
- 26:20Speaker 1: to determine. Oh you know, it depends on you and
- 26:24Speaker 1: what you need in that moment and all of that.
- 26:28Speaker 1: I don't even know how to pray all the time,
- 26:30Speaker 1: so I can't answer that. So I always ask God,
- 26:32Speaker 1: how do you want? How do you want to pray?
- 26:34Speaker 1: And when I can't pray, there's a scripture in the
- 26:35Speaker 1: Bible that says he will intercede for you. So when
- 26:38Speaker 1: I don't know what to say, I need my innecessor
- 26:41Speaker 1: I need him to intercede for me.
- 26:42Speaker 7: What happens when you can't hear God? Like, do you
- 26:44Speaker 7: have moments like that where you don't hear God?
- 26:46Speaker 1: Yeah, where it seemed like you can't hear. But a
- 26:48Speaker 1: lot of times we gotta know, I realize he speaks
- 26:51Speaker 1: in different ways. Sometimes we expect for him to speak
- 26:55Speaker 1: in one way or a way that we're used to it,
- 26:57Speaker 1: But There's been times where he didn't speak to me
- 27:00Speaker 1: directly during prayer time, but after I prayed, he would
- 27:03Speaker 1: send somebody to say this, that and the third and
- 27:06Speaker 1: it would confirm just.
- 27:08Speaker 2: What you know I was just praying about.
- 27:10Speaker 1: So I think you have to be open to how
- 27:12Speaker 1: he wants to get that answer to you because he's
- 27:15Speaker 1: speaking and when you feel you feel like he's not
- 27:18Speaker 1: just diving worship.
- 27:21Speaker 4: Do you feel like you have to be perfect?
- 27:25Speaker 1: Not at all, not one bit. I don't even listen.
- 27:28Speaker 1: I know that the only perfect person is Jesus, and
- 27:32Speaker 1: I ain't trying to be.
- 27:34Speaker 2: I just try to.
- 27:35Speaker 1: I take it day by day like everybody else, and
- 27:38Speaker 1: try to be a great person. You know, love people
- 27:42Speaker 1: try to do the right thing. We all have mess ups, failures,
- 27:46Speaker 1: but you know, the good thing about it is when
- 27:48Speaker 1: you don't stay there, you choose every day to grow.
- 27:50Speaker 1: And that's what I try to do in that worry
- 27:52Speaker 1: about Jaquelin and j Quala's growth. I'm not perfect things
- 27:57Speaker 1: that in the past that I think like I could
- 27:59Speaker 1: have handled that bet better.
- 28:00Speaker 2: So I want to experience growth in that.
- 28:02Speaker 1: I want to expre you know what I'm saying, Like
- 28:03Speaker 1: I identify where I need growth and then yeah, I
- 28:07Speaker 1: do the work.
- 28:08Speaker 6: I want to ask, like, in your view, what is
- 28:10Speaker 6: the gospel music owes to the legends?
- 28:14Speaker 1: You feature just the honor overall where we're not pushing
- 28:18Speaker 1: them to the side. There they produced and gave us
- 28:22Speaker 1: music that carried so many even years before now our mothers,
- 28:28Speaker 1: our grandmothers and all these people, and it ain't over
- 28:33Speaker 1: for them.
- 28:34Speaker 2: They're still doing amazing things.
- 28:35Speaker 1: When you look at CC Wine and you look at
- 28:38Speaker 1: the Clarks, your Lundon Kirk, all these people who are
- 28:41Speaker 1: doing amazing things. I think it's just our duty to
- 28:44Speaker 1: continue to make them feel like they're needed. There's no
- 28:48Speaker 1: division when it come to that old this is new gospel,
- 28:51Speaker 1: and we want like, no, we still need them because
- 28:54Speaker 1: there are some people that I can't reach that Msdottie
- 28:58Speaker 1: can reach, you know what I'm saying. So all of
- 29:00Speaker 1: us are needed and I think we should, you know,
- 29:02Speaker 1: make them feel that way.
- 29:03Speaker 4: What's your favorite gospel song of all time?
- 29:09Speaker 1: I love hymns, so I'm gonna awe it. So you
- 29:13Speaker 1: got hymns, It's like amazing grace. You ever heard of
- 29:15Speaker 1: Amazon grades? You got the blood ear reaches of the
- 29:18Speaker 1: highest Mountain. Yeah, those songs like that, like hymns. Yeah,
- 29:23Speaker 1: I'm gonna say some good old hymns, the ones that
- 29:26Speaker 1: I called out. There's not a friend all that.
- 29:28Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 29:29Speaker 4: So what is Regina Bell? God is good?
- 29:32Speaker 2: I don't know. I've never heard that before.
- 29:35Speaker 4: Is good?
- 29:35Speaker 2: I never heard of it?
- 29:37Speaker 1: Come on, now, that's but if it's I'm pretty sure
- 29:41Speaker 1: it's a gospel, it's a gospel song.
- 29:45Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 29:46Speaker 2: So you have you ever heard of like a hymnal book?
- 29:50Speaker 1: Okay, okay, So if it's not in a hymnal books,
- 29:54Speaker 1: it's a gospel, but it's it's a gospel song.
- 29:57Speaker 2: So most of the time, if it's a hymn, it's
- 29:58Speaker 2: in the book.
- 30:00Speaker 3: Yeah, let's play a joint off for album that's out today.
- 30:03Speaker 4: What do you want to hear?
- 30:06Speaker 2: Let's do I break?
- 30:08Speaker 3: Okay, let's get into that.
- 30:09Speaker 4: Now.
- 30:10Speaker 5: Tell God, even though I was in your business, I'm
- 30:11Speaker 5: a great person you Before we get into it again,
- 30:16Speaker 5: that's just a song of liberation.
- 30:18Speaker 2: You know.
- 30:19Speaker 1: I think that we have to understand that we have
- 30:23Speaker 1: to make the decision to say this thing, I can't
- 30:27Speaker 1: carry this anymore wherever. Whatever that this is, whether it's generational, curses,
- 30:32Speaker 1: whether it's negative cycles, in whatever area of your life,
- 30:36Speaker 1: you have to make the choice to break that so
- 30:38Speaker 1: that you can walk into your full potential and be
- 30:41Speaker 1: where you're supposed to be in life. Forgive yourself. Forgive yourself.
- 30:46Speaker 1: You cannot control your past. You're not even there anymore,
- 30:50Speaker 1: So why are you there trying to go back there?
- 30:52Speaker 2: Mentally?
- 30:53Speaker 4: You know?
- 30:53Speaker 1: So you have to bring yourself to Now what can
- 30:55Speaker 1: I do better? But before I move into all these blessings,
- 30:59Speaker 1: I need to get rid of this stuff that could
- 31:01Speaker 1: stop me from really embracing it. Because you have you
- 31:04Speaker 1: ever like been blessed with something, and then there's this
- 31:08Speaker 1: one thing that your attention is on. Is keeping you
- 31:11Speaker 1: mentally focused on that where you're not able to fully
- 31:14Speaker 1: embrace the blessing.
- 31:16Speaker 2: That's not what God's plan is for you. So that's
- 31:18Speaker 2: what this song is for. I break it.
- 31:20Speaker 1: I break it from the root, which means I don't
- 31:23Speaker 1: want no evidence that you done been here.
- 31:26Speaker 4: I don't see.
- 31:27Speaker 6: Oh that's a powful because I see that with people
- 31:29Speaker 6: in your life more so than people will get removed
- 31:32Speaker 6: from your life and you'll be like.
- 31:36Speaker 1: Cloudy, yeah, or it could be a different person but
- 31:41Speaker 1: the same spirit, the same cycle. And so that's when
- 31:46Speaker 1: you have to ask yourself. I had to ask myself,
- 31:49Speaker 1: and in many people anybody else, what is it in
- 31:52Speaker 1: me that keeps allowing this to happen?
- 31:56Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
- 31:57Speaker 1: So it's not necessarily sometimes a person, it could be
- 32:01Speaker 1: something that's in you that you have to free yourself
- 32:04Speaker 1: from because if you don't fix it, the same thing
- 32:07Speaker 1: is gonna happen with the next person.
- 32:08Speaker 2: Preacher, I'm tickled.
- 32:12Speaker 3: Let's get into the record right now. You want to
- 32:14Speaker 3: close this out on a prayer, sure do it.
- 32:17Speaker 1: Father got in the name of Jesus, I thank you
- 32:18Speaker 1: for everybody who's listening right now. I pray that you
- 32:21Speaker 1: will meet them where they are, that they will feel
- 32:23Speaker 1: your love and your compassion. They will feel your heart
- 32:25Speaker 1: that you desire to see them prosper and thrive in life.
- 32:28Speaker 1: Free them from anything mentally, spiritually, emotionally that has been
- 32:31Speaker 1: holding them in captivity where they're not able to live
- 32:34Speaker 1: to their fullest and highest potential. Thank you for new blessings,
- 32:38Speaker 1: new seasons of favor. Thank you that this season that
- 32:41Speaker 1: you're pushing them into it will not come with pain.
- 32:44Speaker 1: It would not come. It would not feel like a curse,
- 32:47Speaker 1: but it will feel like a blessing. And every single
- 32:49Speaker 1: thing that you've promised them, we thank you. That's done
- 32:52Speaker 1: in Jesus' name. I pray Amen.
- 32:54Speaker 3: Amen caelin car albums out today. Thank you so much
- 32:58Speaker 3: for joining us, Thank you for having me.
- 33:00Speaker 4: It's the breakfast Club.
- 33:00Speaker 3: Good morning. Hold up, every day I wake up.
- 33:04Speaker 4: Clack your ass up, the Breakfast Club. You know I'm finishing.
- 33:07Speaker 4: Y'all done,