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Captain Jack & His Bonny Lass | Calico Jack · Beheaded

0:04
SPEAKER_03: Hello and welcome to Beheaded.
0:06
SPEAKER_05: Welcome to Season 5, Episode 5.
0:08
SPEAKER_05: I'm Megan Moore.
0:10
SPEAKER_03: And I'm Elizabeth Black.
0:11
SPEAKER_03: I kind of like that.
0:12
SPEAKER_03: Season five, episode five.
0:14
SPEAKER_03: Five five.
0:15
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
0:15
SPEAKER_05: It's like when you see 1111 on the clock, you make a wish.
0:19
SPEAKER_03: Five's the lucky number.
0:20
SPEAKER_03: Isn't it?
0:21
SPEAKER_05: Like, what does it represent?
0:25
SPEAKER_05: Does it represent it?
0:26
SPEAKER_05: I maybe because like historically, three's lucky because it's like the trend.
0:32
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, actually, that's what I was thinking.
0:33
SPEAKER_03: I think three is the three, three, three.
0:36
SPEAKER_05: And four's lucky because it's like seasons and wholeness.
0:39
SPEAKER_03: And I like five.
0:40
SPEAKER_03: Five's a good number.
0:41
SPEAKER_03: Five golden rings.
0:42
SPEAKER_03: What does it remind?
0:43
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that's the best one.
0:46
SPEAKER_05: I've seen a lot of like memes this year about the 12 days of Christmas, and like, why are there so many fucking birds?
0:54
SPEAKER_03: I have two.
0:56
SPEAKER_03: It's it is true.
0:57
SPEAKER_03: That song I remember as a kid, it always confused me.
1:00
SPEAKER_05: You're like, why do I want all these birds and humans?
1:02
SPEAKER_05: Why are you gifting me humans?
1:04
SPEAKER_03: What are these pipers piping and these maids of milking?
1:07
SPEAKER_05: I don't need the ladies dancing for me.
1:09
SPEAKER_05: Thank you.
1:09
SPEAKER_03: They must have been very rich.
1:11
SPEAKER_03: Maybe like a Henry VIII status.
1:14
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:14
SPEAKER_05: That's what I thought of as I got older.
1:16
SPEAKER_05: Like, do they have one of these just vast houses that employs so many people?
1:20
SPEAKER_05: Like, here's all these like maids of milking and ladies dancing and pipers piping.
1:25
SPEAKER_05: Birds singing.
1:26
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:27
SPEAKER_05: The only thing I want is the golden rings.
1:29
SPEAKER_03: Like the only good gift they really showed up with.
1:32
SPEAKER_05: I'll keep the rest.
1:33
SPEAKER_05: I'll take a couple swans and some golden rings.
1:36
SPEAKER_03: It does make me think though, and like Henry would just sit in his throne room and they would line up and they would each present their gift to him during the eel tide, and he'd be like, yes, yes.
1:45
SPEAKER_03: And keep it on.
1:46
SPEAKER_03: And then he'd be like, oh, kinda like that.
1:47
SPEAKER_03: Okay, next one.
1:49
SPEAKER_05: So Henry, I bring to you three French hens.
1:53
SPEAKER_05: Uh-huh.
1:54
SPEAKER_05: Cook them up, cook them up.
1:56
SPEAKER_03: Oh, that's funny.
1:57
SPEAKER_03: How are you?
1:58
SPEAKER_03: Happy New Year.
1:58
SPEAKER_03: Happy New Year.
1:59
SPEAKER_03: It's been a while.
2:00
SPEAKER_05: I know.
2:01
SPEAKER_05: We were apart.
2:02
SPEAKER_05: Sad face.
2:04
SPEAKER_05: Tier.
2:04
SPEAKER_05: We were we were apart for the holidays, so it's nice to reconnect and recap everything.
2:09
SPEAKER_05: You went to California?
2:11
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I went back home.
2:12
SPEAKER_05: I was in New Jersey.
2:14
SPEAKER_05: Yay.
2:15
SPEAKER_03: Very far away from each other.
2:17
SPEAKER_02: I know.
2:18
SPEAKER_05: Literally, we couldn't get any further away.
2:20
SPEAKER_03: We were with each other in thoughts.
2:21
SPEAKER_03: In spirit, and text messages.
2:23
SPEAKER_03: In mind.
2:24
SPEAKER_03: And memes and gifts and Instagram stories that we shared.
2:28
SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
2:29
SPEAKER_05: She shared with me our 2023 raft, which is all the stats that we had from Beheaded in 2023, and we were very happy about everything.
2:39
SPEAKER_05: It was come a long way.
2:41
SPEAKER_03: I was mildly surprised.
2:42
SPEAKER_03: I'm not like I want to give us credit.
2:44
SPEAKER_03: No, no.
2:45
SPEAKER_03: Because I I think early on in the podcast, I was really obsessed with looking at the metrics a lot.
2:51
SPEAKER_05: We both were.
2:52
SPEAKER_03: And then I it kind of gets like discouraging for anyone out there who is trying to start a podcast, or you know, it's slow moving.
2:59
SPEAKER_03: It really is.
3:00
SPEAKER_05: Well, I will say, I think you start off, everyone who starts one, you start off a bit hotter than you think you will be.
3:07
SPEAKER_05: Because you really truly are like, it's gonna be me, Megan, my mom, the dog that listen.
3:13
SPEAKER_05: You're like, nobody's gonna listen.
3:14
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
3:15
SPEAKER_05: So I remember the first day we launched our we launched our first episode, you were texting me throughout the entire day, and you're like, oh my gosh, we have like 50 downloads.
3:23
SPEAKER_05: We have 60 downloads, we have a hundred downloads.
3:25
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
3:26
SPEAKER_05: And so I remember that first day being like euphoric because I was like, This is it.
3:30
SPEAKER_04: Like, there's a hundred people, like there's a hundred people that'll listen on the first day of the first episode.
3:34
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
3:35
SPEAKER_05: And then it does get discouraging because you kind of plateau of like once your first episode gets a hundred or two hundred listens, you're like, oh, well, obviously next episode's gonna get four hundred, then we're gonna have a thousand.
3:47
SPEAKER_05: And then, you know, and when it doesn't do that, and it's just like, oh, the next episode only got 300.
3:52
SPEAKER_05: It's people who are interested, and then they're like, God, these people suck.
3:55
SPEAKER_03: And then they don't come back.
3:57
SPEAKER_03: And that happens, and we take it, and I know I've said this again and again, and whenever people are like, oh my gosh, your podcast, I want to listen, I'm almost like, don't listen to the first couple episodes.
4:06
SPEAKER_03: They're not that bad.
4:07
SPEAKER_03: I know I know you don't like them.
4:09
SPEAKER_03: I'm very self-conscious of them.
4:11
SPEAKER_05: I I like them because they're like origin stories.
4:14
SPEAKER_05: Sure.
4:14
SPEAKER_05: It's it tells a story of how far we've come for sure.
4:17
SPEAKER_05: And you know, we didn't really understand the structure of our episodes for a few episodes.
4:21
SPEAKER_05: Like, you know, we just thought, oh, we're just gonna talk about the execution, and that's kind of it.
4:26
SPEAKER_05: Whereas now we know to unpack again like the story of the person and a bit of the context because we've had so many episodes, we connect them to like other things that have happened in history.
4:36
SPEAKER_05: Sure.
4:36
SPEAKER_05: So like we've come a long way in that regard, and it took us just a few episodes to figure that out.
4:41
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and our organization overall.
4:43
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
4:44
SPEAKER_03: I I like to think I I know that I still have the habit of like jumping in and I try to contain myself, but we were all over the place.
4:52
SPEAKER_03: It was like, and then this, and then this, and oh wait, and that, and of course we still do that.
4:57
SPEAKER_03: But we do try to kind of, you know, early life, and then like we kind of try to segment up their life and ch into chapters to go back and forth, yeah.
5:07
SPEAKER_05: And um, going back to our recap of 2023, we are in the top 25% of all podcasts, which is very exciting because again, I know it's not like oh we're top, you know, 1%, but that doesn't matter to us.
5:21
SPEAKER_05: I mean, the fact that we're in the upperish echelon, like we've been doing this for a while.
5:26
SPEAKER_05: We have some avid fans, we've interviewed some like fairly famous historians, like we've kind of that was big for 2023.
5:34
SPEAKER_03: It was really cool to kind of look at that time lapse.
5:37
SPEAKER_03: Hey, and we have mics.
5:39
SPEAKER_03: We have like mics for the but can I fix yours?
5:42
SPEAKER_03: Because I feel like it's rubbing on your neck.
5:43
SPEAKER_03: Oh, do you feel it's rubbing?
5:45
SPEAKER_05: I do not.
5:46
SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna move it down just a little if that's okay.
5:48
SPEAKER_05: Rub me more.
5:49
SPEAKER_03: Okay, yeah, because then this is new for us.
5:52
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
5:52
SPEAKER_03: I I I don't know if I should call out our flaws or not.
5:56
SPEAKER_03: Like we're trying to just be careful with our new setup.
5:58
SPEAKER_03: I I completely recognize in the last episode we got a little bangy on the table.
6:04
SPEAKER_03: But you know, we live and we learn and we try different things out.
6:07
SPEAKER_03: So thanks for for bearing with us.
6:10
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, no, we're we're introducing video this season.
6:12
SPEAKER_05: We got these new wireless mic thingies on us, you know.
6:16
SPEAKER_02: We are all mic'd and hooked and technologically put together.
6:20
SPEAKER_02: We're getting we're getting a little bit better all the time.
6:22
SPEAKER_03: Our camera is currently being held up by volumes.
6:26
SPEAKER_03: What is that?
6:27
SPEAKER_03: Seven, one, and four of Harry Potter.
6:33
SPEAKER_03: It's okay.
6:34
SPEAKER_03: Five was a little bit too large.
6:35
SPEAKER_03: We didn't need Order of the Phoenix, but you know, we've got a we've got Charlotte.
6:41
SPEAKER_05: Charlotte, we talked about Charlotte.
6:43
SPEAKER_03: We've talked about meet Charlotte.
6:45
SPEAKER_05: She's been one of our remember what episode we talked about, Charlotte, our lady pirate who hangs on the wall of Megan's like study.
6:53
SPEAKER_05: My study, yeah.
6:54
SPEAKER_05: She's here if you're on the YouTube, she's right behind us.
6:57
SPEAKER_05: You can see her, she's beautiful.
6:59
SPEAKER_03: She is a for those who are not watching YouTube, shame on you.
7:02
SPEAKER_03: At least, at least take a look.
7:04
SPEAKER_03: If you're curious, I know you're curious.
7:06
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, maybe we don't describe it.
7:09
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, if you want to know what Charlotte looks like, you gotta tune in to YouTube.
7:13
SPEAKER_03: Just look up Beheaded Podcast.
7:15
SPEAKER_03: It's linked on our Instagram.
7:16
SPEAKER_03: If you like the way she looks, you give her a quick like.
7:19
SPEAKER_03: She's very sexy.
7:20
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and we added like pearls.
7:23
SPEAKER_05: We added some pearls to the frame.
7:25
SPEAKER_05: Well, not frame, there's no frame, but you'll have to understand what that means if you look at the we're so mysterious.
7:32
SPEAKER_05: Look at us.
7:33
SPEAKER_05: Uh anyway, and really quick other note.
7:36
SPEAKER_05: Well, we'll talk about holidays a tiny bit more before we get into it, but I am drinking and Megan is not because it is dry January for her.
7:45
SPEAKER_05: For me, it's very much a damp.
7:47
SPEAKER_05: It's a normal Thursday.
7:48
SPEAKER_05: Damp Thursday.
7:50
SPEAKER_05: I don't really do the dry anything, but you know.
7:54
SPEAKER_03: I'm in the period of negotiation with myself.
7:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
7:58
SPEAKER_03: Because I I like uh Elizabeth and I were chatting before how we want to see the new Mean Girls now this weekend.
8:06
SPEAKER_03: Obviously, yes.
8:06
SPEAKER_03: You know, we're big Mean Girls fans.
8:08
SPEAKER_03: I am very offended in the trailer how it says not your mother's mean girls.
8:12
SPEAKER_05: Like that kind of okay.
8:13
SPEAKER_05: I'm your mom's well, that movie came out in 2005, so that's only 19 years.
8:18
SPEAKER_03: It was earlier than 2005.
8:20
SPEAKER_05: There's no I was in no, it was 2005.
8:22
SPEAKER_05: I remember.
8:23
SPEAKER_05: Was it?
8:23
SPEAKER_03: Oh, I remember the because I remember seeing it with my friend Kelsey.
8:27
SPEAKER_03: And you were probably a freshman or sophomore.
8:30
SPEAKER_03: No, I think I remember I had my Dunimbert colored purse because I was like a spoiled California brat.
8:36
SPEAKER_03: Gross.
8:37
SPEAKER_03: And I had that when I was 14, and I remember seeing a freshman.
8:43
SPEAKER_03: I saw it with her dad.
8:44
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
8:44
SPEAKER_03: As like a no, okay.
8:46
SPEAKER_03: Well, let's look.
8:46
SPEAKER_05: I'm I already I know it's 2005 because I saw it three times in theaters.
8:51
SPEAKER_03: I believe you.
8:52
SPEAKER_03: 2004.
8:53
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
8:53
SPEAKER_03: Oh, wait, no, that's 2024.
8:55
SPEAKER_03: Just kidding.
8:56
unknown: Yeah, thank you.
8:57
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you're probably right.
8:58
SPEAKER_05: Just Google original Mean Girls.
9:00
SPEAKER_03: Wow, now I searched Mean Girls and it's just the new one.
9:03
SPEAKER_05: Okay, it does say 2004.
9:06
SPEAKER_03: Same thing.
9:06
SPEAKER_05: I was four, I feel that the theatrical release was 2005 because I remember this year very vividly.
9:16
SPEAKER_05: No, I um I remember I saw it once in high school with my cheerleader friends, and I saw it once in high school with my boyfriend, and then I saw another time with my sister and mom.
9:27
SPEAKER_05: And so I was like so into me and girls.
9:29
SPEAKER_05: It was like, I think I was going into my junior year of high school, and it was like that was Yeah, that's appropriate.
9:34
SPEAKER_03: It did come out in the summer.
9:35
SPEAKER_03: I think I was between eighth grade and ninth grade.
9:38
SPEAKER_03: So I guess four because I was this is how I know the way that my age works.
9:43
SPEAKER_03: In 2004, I was 14.
9:45
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
9:46
SPEAKER_03: Right now it's 2024, I'm 34.
9:48
SPEAKER_03: Like, it's always worked out well for me.
9:50
SPEAKER_03: My age with my it makes math so easy for me when I'm trying to figure out how old I was.
9:54
SPEAKER_05: Then I was 15, going on 16.
9:57
SPEAKER_05: Oh my god.
9:58
SPEAKER_03: Anywho, we were the way we're I'm straying.
10:02
SPEAKER_03: So we wanted to go see the new Mean Girls.
10:04
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
10:04
SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, God, that sounds like such a fun day because we have the day off from work, it's a holiday coming up, our significant others do not, which is the perfect opportunity to like go have some lunch, day drink a little bit, watch Mean Girls.
10:19
SPEAKER_03: I was like, dang it, I I gotta be sober.
10:23
SPEAKER_03: She has to be dry.
10:24
SPEAKER_03: I'm telling her to be a little damp.
10:25
SPEAKER_03: So I'm trying to negotiate with myself, like, okay, what if I do two weeks now and then two weeks, I'll like I'll add on a week afterwards.
10:34
SPEAKER_05: Just make your own rule.
10:38
SPEAKER_03: So I don't want him to win, and I don't want him to pull this out on me later.
10:43
SPEAKER_03: So the only other option I have is to sabotage him first by leaving trails of cold beer around the house.
10:53
SPEAKER_05: Like one frozen pint glass sitting in the middle of the table.
10:57
SPEAKER_03: Yes, you know, with ice cold beer in it, with a cheeseburger next to it.
11:02
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, like a slider and a chicken wing.
11:04
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
11:05
SPEAKER_05: You know, like just enough.
11:08
SPEAKER_05: I think listening to this, then the jig is up.
11:11
SPEAKER_05: He literally is in that room.
11:13
SPEAKER_03: We hear him, I heard that from the next room.
11:16
SPEAKER_05: It bangs on the door.
11:18
SPEAKER_03: Dang it.
11:19
SPEAKER_03: Anyways, I don't know why.
11:20
SPEAKER_03: I do this for to myself to prove I have discipline.
11:24
SPEAKER_05: You also do it because not to sound like bigger drunks, but like, so the way that way when you start drinking again, it's more impactful.
11:34
SPEAKER_05: There's a lot of benefits.
11:36
SPEAKER_05: Oh, one glass of wine gets me pretty dipsy.
11:39
SPEAKER_03: I wish.
11:40
SPEAKER_03: Well, the thing is, is we've all we're all there.
11:42
SPEAKER_03: Like after the holidays, it's also my husband's birthday on January 3rd.
11:46
SPEAKER_03: So it's like it's it's holidays, it's birthday, it's going out, it's traveling, it's seeing the family.
11:52
SPEAKER_03: It's all of that.
11:52
SPEAKER_03: It's the presents, it's the food.
11:54
SPEAKER_03: So it's kind of like we're dried up on everything.
11:56
SPEAKER_03: So by not drinking, we're saving money.
11:59
SPEAKER_03: There's really no, like, we're not when we go out to eat.
12:02
SPEAKER_03: If we do go out, like we're trying not to go out that much, but if we do, it's like water's all around.
12:08
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
12:08
SPEAKER_05: Spark.
12:09
SPEAKER_03: I'm a big fan of sparkling water, like the soda water with lime.
12:12
SPEAKER_05: That's true.
12:13
SPEAKER_05: That feels like a cocktail sometimes.
12:14
SPEAKER_05: It doesn't feel like a cocktail, but yeah.
12:17
SPEAKER_05: You know, in your hand.
12:19
SPEAKER_05: Um, yeah, and I understand that.
12:21
SPEAKER_05: When I was in New Jersey, we did, because again, Robbie's traditional Italian, so it's like we did Feast of the Seven Fishes and Midnight Sausage and Peppers, and like everything in New Jersey's food, food, food, food, food.
12:35
SPEAKER_05: And wine, wine, wine.
12:36
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and the red wine, and the red wine, and the red wine, you know, and his family loves whiskey.
12:41
SPEAKER_05: It's funny because I knew his dad loved whiskey, and so does Robbie.
12:44
SPEAKER_05: I love whiskey, but like the whole family.
12:48
SPEAKER_05: Literally, every medic, every present that was given was like a bottle, a bottle of basil Hayden.
12:53
SPEAKER_05: Like it was just like just pass it all around.
12:55
SPEAKER_04: It was like, no one didn't pass it to the left.
12:58
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
12:58
SPEAKER_05: And I was like, I was so impressed with the number of old fashions I saw.
13:02
SPEAKER_05: So you you get to a point where you can't even feel tipsy anymore because you're like, I'm just perpetually like just have liquor in me.
13:08
SPEAKER_03: Maybe, maybe we should be doing Dar January.
13:13
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
13:14
SPEAKER_03: Anyways, for me, it's just a whole month of like, I have to go extreme.
13:18
SPEAKER_03: So for me this month, I'm so cliche.
13:21
SPEAKER_03: I'm I get it.
13:22
SPEAKER_03: It's gym, it's eating healthy, it's all of that.
13:26
SPEAKER_03: But I think I should give myself Martin Luther King Jr.
13:29
SPEAKER_03: Day to watch mean girls and appreciate it.
13:35
SPEAKER_03: What a way to honor Dr.
13:37
SPEAKER_05: King.
13:38
SPEAKER_03: That came out worse than I thought it did, but it's a it's a bank holiday.
13:42
SPEAKER_05: I get what you're saying, but yes.
13:44
SPEAKER_03: We um we get work off.
13:45
SPEAKER_05: And I will say, those of you who are observing strict New Year's resolutions, just remember to be kind to yourself because it's not all about restriction.
13:54
SPEAKER_03: Yes, you know, it's all or nothing.
13:57
SPEAKER_03: If you flinch, you're done for the whole year, and then just I have just keep just go down the path of sin after that.
14:05
SPEAKER_05: There is a lovely lady I work with.
14:07
SPEAKER_05: Um, I won't disclose her name in case she would like her privacy, but she actually came up with this really cute idea of her and her friends are their New Year's resolution is to eat as many pasta varieties as they can.
14:19
SPEAKER_05: So they literally are keeping track all year.
14:22
SPEAKER_05: They have like a shared Google box.
14:24
SPEAKER_05: And they're just keeping track of like, oh, I ate like reggaetoni and fussili and linguini.
14:29
SPEAKER_05: That's cute.
14:30
SPEAKER_05: And it's like a cute little thing that they do, and then they exchange like, where did you eat it?
14:34
SPEAKER_05: Like, yeah, it's like it's not about like negative self-talk, it's about like how can we still like enjoy each other, enjoy the new year, and like make this fun.
14:41
SPEAKER_03: Me, I'm just like it's like no carbs.
14:45
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'm like, I'm only eating salmon, lean chicken breasts, and vegetables.
14:51
SPEAKER_03: I wake up at five and I No, I don't know.
14:54
SPEAKER_03: And I go to the gym.
14:55
SPEAKER_03: Actually, that's what Elizabeth does.
14:57
SPEAKER_03: You natur you do wake up at five and go to the gym like a psycho.
15:00
SPEAKER_03: I wake up right before I I have to work, which is up in this room.
15:04
SPEAKER_05: And you know I'm not a morning person.
15:06
SPEAKER_05: You don't want our natural thing for me when you don't talk in the morning.
15:11
SPEAKER_05: I don't like to speak.
15:12
SPEAKER_05: I'm very grumpy in the morning.
15:13
SPEAKER_05: I'm like borderline, like trigger warning, like suicidal in the morning.
15:17
SPEAKER_05: Like I'm not angry.
15:18
SPEAKER_05: Are you really?
15:19
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I'm like mad in the morning.
15:20
SPEAKER_05: Every time.
15:20
SPEAKER_03: I just knew like when I mean, like, we've spent enough mornings together.
15:25
SPEAKER_03: You've seen me in the morning.
15:26
SPEAKER_03: Not to make that sound weird, but like, okay, like for example, we just went to London and shared a room, obviously, with each other.
15:31
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
15:32
SPEAKER_03: I just know until it's that moment of like walking out the door and you're out in the air, you'll start talking.
15:40
SPEAKER_03: But while you're getting ready, like once you get up to the point when you're blow drying your hair or whatever, I can't do it.
15:46
SPEAKER_03: Just like she wants her piece.
15:47
SPEAKER_03: That's it.
15:48
SPEAKER_03: I can't.
15:48
SPEAKER_05: I don't know why.
15:49
SPEAKER_05: And it's not you, it's anyone.
15:50
SPEAKER_05: It's my mother, it's my family, it's it's Robbie, it's everyone.
15:53
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
15:54
SPEAKER_05: It's like I just can't have a light height conversation in the morning.
15:58
SPEAKER_05: I have to just be like, we're awake.
16:01
SPEAKER_05: If we need to talk, it's on a need to talk basis.
16:03
SPEAKER_05: Like, like, hey, are you using this?
16:05
SPEAKER_05: Hey, are you going in the shower first?
16:06
SPEAKER_05: Like, I need those types of conversations.
16:08
SPEAKER_05: Once I'm showered and like ready-ish, and like it's time to get ready, I'm like, okay, now I'm I'm awake, I'm alive, but I've learned not to take it to the take it the wrong way.
16:19
SPEAKER_03: Take it personal ever.
16:20
SPEAKER_03: And then I have to laugh, like at my home, when like when Jake and I wake up, typically the very first thing, like it could be like a nice Sunday morning and like sleeping in and the sun is shining, and he'll just be like, Megan, can we call?
16:35
SPEAKER_03: We need to call the bank today to ask about like it's always it goes straight into there.
16:40
SPEAKER_03: Okay, this is the running joke.
16:42
SPEAKER_03: I would die.
16:42
SPEAKER_03: This is the so I work in customer support.
16:45
SPEAKER_03: I hate calling 800 numbers.
16:47
SPEAKER_03: I I help run a call center.
16:50
SPEAKER_03: Like, right, I whatever.
16:53
SPEAKER_03: I don't know what it is.
16:54
SPEAKER_03: My husband loves to call 800 numbers for everything.
16:58
SPEAKER_03: Like, it'll just be like, I'll just give them a call and just make sure.
17:00
SPEAKER_03: I'm like, no, you can look it up right here.
17:02
SPEAKER_03: Like, just pull it up on the app.
17:03
SPEAKER_03: And he's like, No, I'm just gonna call and make sure.
17:05
SPEAKER_03: And like they don't want to talk to you either.
17:07
SPEAKER_03: He's like and he's so nice when he calls in.
17:09
SPEAKER_03: He's like, hey, good morning.
17:11
SPEAKER_05: He's like the commercials of like how to not become your parents, you know.
17:15
SPEAKER_03: That's my husband.
17:16
SPEAKER_03: And it'll be like, and I'll be sleeping, and then I'll like roll over and I'll hear I'll hear him.
17:20
SPEAKER_03: Uh yeah, I I'm just looking here at my account and I'm like, oh god, it's starting.
17:25
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, anyways, I you know, I love him for it, and thank God because he gets stuff done.
17:30
SPEAKER_03: He gets things done, he wakes up.
17:31
SPEAKER_03: And I know it's because he's laying there and probably thinking about it or going at night and thinking about things, like, oh, I should do that in the morning, and he just gets it done.
17:38
SPEAKER_03: He does not I I procrastinate and I put it down the road, but yeah.
17:42
SPEAKER_03: Anywho, enough about that.
17:43
SPEAKER_03: We just did 20 minutes of talking about I don't know what.
17:46
SPEAKER_03: We talked about holidays and morning routines, and it's important and dry January, which sucks.
17:51
SPEAKER_03: And I think if I give myself a day off and add three days to the end, that's a good negotiation.
17:58
SPEAKER_05: Again, whatever you want to do, honey, it's you.
18:00
SPEAKER_05: It's you.
18:01
SPEAKER_03: I want to drink Cosmos and watch Mean Girls.
18:04
SPEAKER_03: We're gonna do it.
18:05
SPEAKER_03: We're gonna do it.
18:07
SPEAKER_03: Stay tuned for live updates.
18:09
SPEAKER_05: Anyway, this episode is not about sobriety.
18:13
SPEAKER_03: We have a theme here.
18:15
SPEAKER_05: There's a table for our YouTube watchers.
18:17
SPEAKER_05: YouTubers, you see things like an old pistol and a little pineapple hat, top, hat, stem, Charlotte in the background who looks like a pirate S.
18:30
SPEAKER_05: Because today is about Calico Jack, who is an infamous pirate.
18:35
SPEAKER_03: We have a pirate hat.
18:37
SPEAKER_03: It was almost scary how much pirate stuff I conveniently had just laying around my house.
18:43
SPEAKER_03: These are not props people, these are things that Megan owns.
18:47
SPEAKER_03: We ran fair.
18:48
SPEAKER_03: My husband goes as a pirate every year, so he just started pulling everything out.
18:53
SPEAKER_03: Um, for dinner, we had Caribbean jerk chicken with coconut rice and some pineapple salsa.
19:00
SPEAKER_03: And we did allow Jake, my husband, to sit and join us for dinner, but he had to wear the pirate hat, which he very happily obliged to do so.
19:07
SPEAKER_03: He did.
19:07
SPEAKER_05: So we had a nice little thing going on this evening.
19:09
SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
19:10
SPEAKER_05: So we haven't done a pirate since season one.
19:13
SPEAKER_05: We're in season five now.
19:14
SPEAKER_05: Really?
19:15
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
19:15
SPEAKER_05: And I remember us actively having a conversation of like, what if the pirates are, you know, infamous for being executed?
19:22
SPEAKER_05: And we really couldn't think of that many, which is weird because there's tons of pirate executions.
19:27
SPEAKER_03: Well, like, I don't know of any pirates who live to like a ripe old age.
19:31
SPEAKER_03: Well, calico and died peacefully in their bed.
19:34
SPEAKER_03: Spoiler alert, did not.
19:36
SPEAKER_03: That's not a thing for pirates.
19:37
SPEAKER_03: They either died in battle or they were executed.
19:40
SPEAKER_03: Right, right.
19:41
SPEAKER_03: We definitely found a good one.
19:42
SPEAKER_05: So we love this one especially, and we'll get into this further in the episode, but it's not just about him.
19:48
SPEAKER_05: He also has two other people we'll call them.
19:52
SPEAKER_03: Bonnie lasses.
19:53
SPEAKER_05: Bony lasses, perhaps, who come into the story later.
19:56
SPEAKER_05: So this is also kind of a female-oriented story in the age of like the golden age of piracy in the Caribbean.
20:05
SPEAKER_03: So I actually didn't realize that was the period of time they called it.
20:08
SPEAKER_03: What was it?
20:08
SPEAKER_03: Between like it was like 1680 to 1750 or something like that.
20:14
SPEAKER_05: I think it was a little bit early, like maybe 1650 to like 1720 or 30.
20:20
SPEAKER_03: The reason I like this story is because, um, I mean, obviously, like the first thing you think of is Captain Jack, Calico Jack.
20:27
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
20:27
SPEAKER_03: And while we did do William Kidd, he was more so like a Bostonian and British pirate.
20:33
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
20:33
SPEAKER_03: But this is a true like pirates of the Caribbean.
20:37
SPEAKER_05: He, I think, like Captain Jack Sparrow was kind of based on the character.
20:42
SPEAKER_03: He had to, like, obviously, I know that Johnny Depp took his own liberties and used Keith Richards and all of that as inspiration to create Jack Sparrow.
20:51
SPEAKER_03: But Calico Jack is your cliche Caribbean pirate.
20:55
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
20:55
SPEAKER_03: And I love it.
20:55
SPEAKER_03: So I'll let you know.
20:57
SPEAKER_05: And in a way, kind of a bad pirate, which we'll get into as well.
21:01
SPEAKER_03: Not a great pirate.
21:02
SPEAKER_05: But you have heard of him.
21:04
SPEAKER_03: Or if you have not, you will after this episode.
21:06
SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
21:07
SPEAKER_05: Alright, so Calico Jack.
21:09
SPEAKER_05: So Calico Jack was actually born John Rackham in England.
21:14
SPEAKER_05: So um, and Rackham Rakem, whatever.
21:16
SPEAKER_03: Rack'em good, rack'em stack em, pop em.
21:19
SPEAKER_05: You know, you know our pronunciations.
21:21
unknown: Bop.
21:21
SPEAKER_05: Pull it, twist it, pull it.
21:23
SPEAKER_05: Um, so again, like most folks who don't really come from a noble background, we don't know a ton about his early life or his upbringing, but we first heard hear about him in about 1718 when he's the quartermaster for a ship called the Ranger.
21:39
SPEAKER_05: And the Ranger is captained by a legendary pirate in his own right named Charles Vane.
21:44
SPEAKER_05: So Charles Vane is very infamous, very ruthless.
21:48
SPEAKER_05: He's sailing around the Caribbean at this time.
21:51
SPEAKER_05: Um, and uh he's in in in terms of the Caribbean geography, he's specifically in the Bahamas.
21:58
SPEAKER_05: And he's in this place, uh, it's called Called New Providence Island that is known as the Pirates' Republic.
22:04
SPEAKER_05: So it's almost like this weird safe haven for pirates.
22:08
SPEAKER_05: Like if you don't really belong anywhere else in the Caribbean, you can kind of go here, like maybe, you know, drop anchor or maybe have a small shack or whatever you want to do on the island.
22:20
SPEAKER_02: A tiny, tiny community of pirates.
22:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
22:23
SPEAKER_05: Right, right.
22:24
SPEAKER_05: Um, and so England at this time too had their eye on the Caribbean because obviously they're sending all these merchant ships, they're sending new people to like populate the lands, and they're like, we're not really sure what to do about this pirate thing because there's a bit of a ruffian situation happening here.
22:39
SPEAKER_05: So they're just kind of letting it happen right now because they don't know again what to do.
22:42
SPEAKER_03: This is new.
22:43
SPEAKER_03: And kind of the cool thing that we learned about too was just because of the timing, and this is when America was first for for formulating forming, forming, forming, America was just forming and the colonies were coming together, and some people weren't into that.
22:57
SPEAKER_03: Like they weren't quite into the whole government and what America was fighting for.
23:02
SPEAKER_03: Well, pre-America, this is pre-American revolution.
23:05
SPEAKER_05: You're still under British rule.
23:07
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but the American colonies.
23:08
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
23:09
SPEAKER_03: So a lot of them did drift south and found themselves in this pirate land.
23:13
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
23:13
SPEAKER_03: So that's how a lot of them kind of got together.
23:16
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
23:16
SPEAKER_05: And it's kind of like any new thing, right?
23:20
SPEAKER_05: Like a new phase of life, new era, because it's like no one knows what to do at first.
23:25
SPEAKER_05: Like you come all the way over to the Americas, maybe it's not quite what you thought, maybe it's more desolate, maybe it's more lonely.
23:33
SPEAKER_05: Maybe your ship gets hijacked by pirates and they're like, hey, you have a choice, jump join us, or you know, we're gonna maroon you on an island.
23:40
SPEAKER_05: Like there's a million reasons why you could kind of fall into piracy.
23:43
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
23:44
SPEAKER_05: And if you're at a point where you're maybe, again, not super set in a specific lifestyle, it is appealing because you're like, wow, they just kind of get to sail around, they port where they just drink and they have fun, and once they're on the sea, they take other ships and they get all this gold and plunder, and then they just rum.
24:02
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, more rum and they amass new ships.
24:05
SPEAKER_05: Like it's an exciting lifestyle.
24:06
SPEAKER_05: And if you've already come this far, like you've already sailed to the Americas, you've already left your homeland of England or whatever country you come from.
24:13
SPEAKER_03: Like, this is hey, why not?
24:15
SPEAKER_05: Like, this is exciting, you know.
24:17
SPEAKER_03: I don't know what I would compare that to today.
24:19
SPEAKER_03: Like, it's not going out to college.
24:22
SPEAKER_03: Going to, or like, I don't know, if you want to like go to Hollywood or LA and start this new life, but not really.
24:27
SPEAKER_03: Like, but then you kind of, but then you you have these big dreams, but then you accidentally somehow slip into the wrong path, and before you know it, you're like in the party scene and gets a little hardcore, and you're like, well, I guess I this is where my life took me.
24:42
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that's a good example, actually.
24:43
SPEAKER_05: It's like you go maybe to Hollywood and you're like, oh, I'm gonna be an actor and I'm gonna take this serious, and I'm gonna rent a small studio and have an honest job and take these auditions, and then you get there and you're like, wait, I could just like party with like D-list celebrities for a little bit and like do some some illicit celebrity some illegal things and some illegal things about it.
25:03
SPEAKER_03: Have a fun time with life.
25:04
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and then and then in five years, you're like, eh, I guess it didn't work out, whatever, and you move back home to Iowa.
25:10
SPEAKER_03: You either die or you go back to Iowa.
25:12
SPEAKER_03: It's true.
25:13
SPEAKER_05: Tale as old as time, or it's the same.
25:15
SPEAKER_03: Who knows?
25:16
SPEAKER_05: So imagine that setting, but here in the Caribbean in the early 17th century.
25:21
SPEAKER_03: Spring break 1730.
25:24
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so um, so anyway, so so back to Calico Jack.
25:29
SPEAKER_05: So he is with this crew that has recently robbed ships outside of New York.
25:34
SPEAKER_05: Robbed shit.
25:35
SPEAKER_05: Robbed shit from ships in New York.
25:38
SPEAKER_05: Um, and when they're done like with all this plunder of these New York vessels, they encounter this very large French ship.
25:46
SPEAKER_05: And Vane at the time, who's the captain, remember Charles Vane.
25:49
SPEAKER_05: So Charles Vane sees this giant French ship that's twice the size as his, and he's like, all right, men, retreat.
25:56
SPEAKER_05: Like, we're not gonna beat this ship, we gotta, we gotta get out of here.
25:59
SPEAKER_05: And only 15 of his 91 men on the ship actually supported that.
26:03
SPEAKER_05: They're like, yep, he's right, captain's correct, like we we can't take on the ship, let's just go, let's just outrun them.
26:09
SPEAKER_05: Yes, that's roughly 15%.
26:12
SPEAKER_05: Roughly, yes.
26:13
SPEAKER_05: A little bit higher because it's 91.
26:15
SPEAKER_05: Um, but so so Calico Jack is on board.
26:19
SPEAKER_05: Again, he's the quartermaster of this crew, and he speaks up and he suggests, no, like, let's take them on, let's fight.
26:26
SPEAKER_05: And that's a big ship.
26:27
SPEAKER_05: They're gonna have a lot of gold, a lot of resources, maybe I don't know, sugar, tobacco, like whatever the hot resources were of the day.
26:35
SPEAKER_05: Um, you know, and uh if we do take them, we have their men to also be a part of our crew, and we could take their ship.
26:41
SPEAKER_05: So like what's wrong?
26:42
SPEAKER_05: Let's get let's go.
26:44
SPEAKER_05: So the rest of the crew, again, roughly 90%, 80%, they're behind Jack and they're like, absolutely, let's do it.
26:52
SPEAKER_05: But in this age, it's not a democracy on the ship, it's a piratocracy, okay?
26:57
SPEAKER_05: Is that a word?
26:58
SPEAKER_05: No.
26:58
SPEAKER_05: Oh, probably not.
26:59
SPEAKER_03: Dang it, that would have been a cool word.
27:01
SPEAKER_03: I was thinking piratosity.
27:03
SPEAKER_05: I was thinking of bringing on where she's like, it's not a democracy, it's chirocracy.
27:07
SPEAKER_05: I'm overruling you.
27:08
SPEAKER_05: No.
27:09
SPEAKER_05: God, yes.
27:10
SPEAKER_05: Speaking of meaning girls and bringing on, we're just giving you a whole new era of uh saying a whole new side to Elizabeth here.
27:16
SPEAKER_05: Anyway, um, so so they say, like, no, Captain's word is final.
27:21
SPEAKER_05: So uh Vane wins this discussion and they retreat.
27:26
SPEAKER_05: But then not shortly after, at this point, it's November 24th, 1718.
27:31
SPEAKER_05: Jack kind of assembles the men and calls for a vote, and he's like, hey, we just witnessed Vane being a coward.
27:38
SPEAKER_05: Like he didn't take on this battle.
27:40
SPEAKER_05: We could have had that ship, you know, we need to do something about this.
27:44
SPEAKER_05: So he so he in a very democratic way got everyone together and he had a vote.
27:48
SPEAKER_05: He's like, Who wants this guy as captain still?
27:51
SPEAKER_05: And Vane was ousted.
27:53
SPEAKER_05: They're like, sorry, Vane, you're not brave.
27:55
SPEAKER_05: Like, you're you're not the pirate we want.
27:57
SPEAKER_05: We want someone who's willing to fight for for the things that we want.
28:01
SPEAKER_05: So they oust him, which wasn't terrible.
28:03
SPEAKER_05: It's not like they killed him or did anything crazy.
28:05
SPEAKER_05: They actually gave him a small ship of their fleet.
28:08
SPEAKER_05: They gave him like ammunition and goods.
28:10
SPEAKER_05: The 15 people who supported him like went with him.
28:13
SPEAKER_02: That was nice of them because they could have just like thrown him over, but they could have like made him walk the plank, they could have killed everyone who supported him.
28:21
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but they actually with guns and ships.
28:25
SPEAKER_03: Hamilton song.
28:26
SPEAKER_03: Oh, good.
28:26
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
28:27
SPEAKER_03: Um, how many times did you think of Muppet Treasure Island through this?
28:30
SPEAKER_03: I'm not gonna discuss that.
28:32
SPEAKER_03: Sorry.
28:32
SPEAKER_05: I'm a trigger trigger warning.
28:35
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
28:35
SPEAKER_05: Side note, Robbie didn't like that movie.
28:37
SPEAKER_05: I tried to make him watch it.
28:39
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I just lost that much more.
28:41
SPEAKER_02: It's okay, yeah.
28:42
SPEAKER_02: And him.
28:43
SPEAKER_03: You know, just it's hard to do because he's such a good guy, but like a sliver.
28:47
SPEAKER_05: Oh no, big respect for me.
28:49
SPEAKER_05: Like levels.
28:50
SPEAKER_03: I'm just saying, yeah.
28:52
SPEAKER_03: I mean, Muppet Treasure Island is a golden piece and it's a masterpiece.
28:55
SPEAKER_05: We almost dressed as Rizzo's friends for this episode.
28:59
SPEAKER_05: That would have been funny.
29:01
SPEAKER_05: Anyway, um, so so again, he he sends uh Vane off with his supporters on this tiny ship and says, You go be free, little bird.
29:10
SPEAKER_05: Um, so now Calico Jack is captain.
29:13
SPEAKER_05: And really quick, just to get like explain why he's called Calico Jack.
29:17
SPEAKER_05: Obviously, his birth name is John.
29:19
SPEAKER_05: John.
29:20
SPEAKER_05: Jack.
29:20
SPEAKER_05: That's like a typical nickname.
29:22
SPEAKER_05: But calico comes from his very like flamboyant dress that he started wearing.
29:27
SPEAKER_05: So he wore these big coats that were very colorful and like very beautiful patterns.
29:32
SPEAKER_05: I think calico is like a textile from India.
29:35
SPEAKER_05: So it was like this nice, thick, like durable, but very kind of plain cotton I don't know if it's cotton, but whatever.
29:41
SPEAKER_05: Whatever material it is, it's calico.
29:44
SPEAKER_03: I mean, that's like Captain Hook image, like the the red colors, bright red pirate coat.
29:51
SPEAKER_05: Yes.
29:51
SPEAKER_05: So I think again, that's a lot of like what conjures up that image when you think of a pirate, you're like, oh, like like Captain Hook red coat.
29:58
SPEAKER_05: Like Calico Jack kind of wore that.
29:59
SPEAKER_05: That's who what he looked like to a lot of his crew.
30:02
SPEAKER_05: Um, so once he became captain, he wasn't exactly sure what to do next.
30:07
SPEAKER_05: His big whole move was just like getting Vane out of there, and then he was like, Well, now what?
30:11
SPEAKER_05: So they really just took on a lot of small vessels, like they stayed around the Jamaica area, uh specifically Kingston, um, and they just took a bunch of small ships.
30:20
SPEAKER_05: Like they kind of just hung out around the shoreline and took whatever like weak pickens they could.
30:26
SPEAKER_05: Eventually they do take this boat called the Kingston, which is another like larger vessel that becomes their flagship uh ship.
30:34
SPEAKER_05: Um, and then they also like make way to Bermuda and take some larger ships there.
30:38
SPEAKER_05: So they're amassing quite a nice little fleet.
30:41
SPEAKER_01: They're in Bermuda, Jamaica.
30:44
SPEAKER_01: Ooh, I wanna take you to Bermuda, Bahama, pretty much.
30:50
SPEAKER_03: I can never say that word.
30:51
SPEAKER_05: Bermuda.
30:52
SPEAKER_05: Bermuda.
30:53
SPEAKER_03: Bermuda.
30:53
SPEAKER_05: This is a fun fact.
30:54
SPEAKER_05: So if you know the Beach Boy song that Megan was just singing, um, apparently, right after that song came out, like a bunch of people went to their travel agents and were like, oh, I want to go to Kokomo.
31:03
SPEAKER_05: Uh and like Kokomo is a fictional place, like it's not real.
31:06
SPEAKER_05: They're like, well, we'll just go, like, okay, we're gonna go to Beruba, Jamaica, and then we'll take it to Bermuda.
31:14
SPEAKER_05: And they're like, we just want to end up in Kokomo, and travel agents had to explain to people like Kokomo is not real.
31:20
SPEAKER_03: Oh, how sad.
31:22
SPEAKER_03: I know.
31:22
SPEAKER_03: I mean, we very incredibly before this, we had to like reference a map just to make sure we had our bearings straight because we all kind of like hear these names and islands, but to actually know the geographic.
31:33
SPEAKER_03: So um, so there's Cuba.
31:35
SPEAKER_03: There's yeah, you go ahead.
31:36
SPEAKER_03: You can there's Cuba, and just north of that is the Bahamas.
31:39
SPEAKER_05: Yep.
31:40
SPEAKER_03: South of that is Jamaica, and that's where Port Royal is.
31:43
SPEAKER_03: We'll get into that a little bit more.
31:44
SPEAKER_05: Yes, Port Royal's in Jamaica.
31:46
SPEAKER_03: It's in Jamaica, and then there Hispaniola.
31:50
SPEAKER_03: No.
31:52
SPEAKER_05: Hispaniola.
31:53
SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
31:53
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
31:54
SPEAKER_05: And that's basically like part of Haiti now.
31:57
SPEAKER_05: Modern day Haiti and the Dominican Republic.
32:00
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
32:01
SPEAKER_03: And there is where Tortuga was, which of course parts of the Caribbean, we all have all heard of Tortuga.
32:08
SPEAKER_03: So that's like another pirate convention center area.
32:12
SPEAKER_03: Um, and then Puerto Rico is like a little bit west of that.
32:15
SPEAKER_03: East, east, southeast.
32:17
SPEAKER_03: Southeast.
32:17
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
32:18
SPEAKER_03: So, anyways, it's kind of like oh oh, and then there's also what is it?
32:21
SPEAKER_03: The um The British Virginia.
32:22
SPEAKER_03: The British Yeah, and the Turks and Cagos.
32:26
SPEAKER_03: All the places you want to go vacation and have a lovely Mai Thai and some coconut shrimp, have a little dance party.
32:33
SPEAKER_05: Mai Thai's more Hawaiian, but we'll take it.
32:35
SPEAKER_05: Maybe Bahama Mama.
32:36
SPEAKER_03: Bahama Mama.
32:38
SPEAKER_05: Um, yeah, and it's I that's what's funny, is again, even though we're from North America, but like I don't know the Caribbean area that much.
32:45
SPEAKER_05: We did have to look at a map because I was like, okay, let's just get our bearings.
32:48
SPEAKER_03: I've never been, and I would love to.
32:50
SPEAKER_05: I've only been to Miami and never been at our travel.
32:53
unknown: I can't.
32:54
SPEAKER_05: We did say we're like, we we do want to go to like the UK, you know, maybe every two years, so maybe we just include the British Virgin Islands in that.
33:04
SPEAKER_03: I think it's in the same thing.
33:05
SPEAKER_03: Genre.
33:06
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, British Vir British Virgin Isles.
33:08
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I can never say British Virgin Isles.
33:11
SPEAKER_03: Islands?
33:11
SPEAKER_03: Islands.
33:12
SPEAKER_03: Islands.
33:12
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
33:13
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we're gonna go there.
33:14
SPEAKER_03: She's she's dry January.
33:17
SPEAKER_03: I'm clearly better off with wine than I am.
33:20
SPEAKER_03: Sobering.
33:21
SPEAKER_03: Can't talk.
33:22
SPEAKER_03: I can never talk.
33:23
SPEAKER_05: Um anyway, so so just to wrap up that, so they started amassing these ships, but in February 1719, the Kingston, their flagship ship, was taken um by bounty hunters in Port Royal.
33:35
SPEAKER_05: I know.
33:36
SPEAKER_05: So then they did gain another like English, what was it called?
33:39
SPEAKER_05: The sloops.
33:41
SPEAKER_05: The sloop.
33:42
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, they sloop.
33:42
SPEAKER_05: It's a type of boat.
33:43
SPEAKER_05: It's a type of boat.
33:44
SPEAKER_05: So they got this other English sloop, and then they finally sailed to Nassau in the Bahamas because at this time there's this new governor in Nassau named Governor Woods Rogers, and he was sent from uh Britain to essentially get get control of the pirate situation.
34:01
SPEAKER_05: So, like we said, like Britain had kind of just let it happen.
34:04
SPEAKER_05: They knew piracy was happening, and they're like, we don't we just don't know what to do.
34:07
SPEAKER_05: Get these pirates under control.
34:08
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so they sent this like kind of hard-nosed governor who was like, okay, he's gonna have a plan for what to do with the pirates.
34:14
SPEAKER_05: He's gonna be very strict on them.
34:16
SPEAKER_05: So the first thing that they decided to do is actually kind of counterintuitive, but they were like, let's just pardon all of the pirates.
34:23
SPEAKER_05: Kind of fair, right?
34:24
SPEAKER_05: Like you had your fun.
34:26
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, like, all right, guys, like boys will be boys, you you did your thing.
34:30
SPEAKER_05: Let's all just call it, like, call it quits.
34:33
SPEAKER_05: We're pardoning you, you're gonna stop pirating, everything's cool.
34:37
SPEAKER_03: Well, and it was funny how he did it because it was a specific date.
34:40
SPEAKER_03: He said, Yeah, I will pardon any t acts of piracy up until January 5th, 1719.
34:48
SPEAKER_03: Um, anything after that, you're like you can be convicted and tried and whatever.
34:53
SPEAKER_03: And hanged.
34:54
SPEAKER_03: And hanged and all of that.
34:55
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
34:56
SPEAKER_03: But basically, he is exactly your point, like he let them have their fun, but he promised them if you come within the next year, anytime between now up until January 5th, and you like surrender and you admit that you've been a pirate, like no, no tricks, no traps.
35:11
SPEAKER_03: You're not this isn't like a cuckold, you're gonna well, I'm actually gonna give you my blessing and pardon you and be like, okay, but don't do it again.
35:17
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
35:17
SPEAKER_03: And then go find a new career.
35:19
SPEAKER_03: Which good luck.
35:20
SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
35:21
SPEAKER_05: So um, so Calico Jack and his crew decide to go there to get pardoned.
35:25
SPEAKER_05: And who knows if that was their actual intention or if it was more just a facade so people could get off of their trail.
35:32
SPEAKER_05: But they go there, they get pardoned, and they claim they're like, you know, we wouldn't have been pirates, but that damn Charles Vane, the previous captain, he forced us into piracy.
35:44
SPEAKER_03: You know, the one that we then overthrew, and then we became like Jack became the pirate.
35:49
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
35:50
SPEAKER_03: But yeah, but it worked out in their favor because the governor hated Charles Vane.
35:55
SPEAKER_03: So he's like, he very much saw them as the victims.
35:58
SPEAKER_03: He's like, oh yes, yes, yes.
35:59
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I see that happening.
36:01
SPEAKER_03: Right.
36:01
SPEAKER_03: You are pardoned, and I'm so sorry for that you had to go through those trials and tribulations.
36:05
SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
36:06
SPEAKER_05: It's terrible.
36:07
SPEAKER_05: Vane actually had attacked a ship that um the governor was on before.
36:12
SPEAKER_05: So like the governor knew him, he knew he attacked him, so he totally believed this whole bit of like, yeah, he forced you, I get it, he's evil.
36:18
SPEAKER_04: Right.
36:19
SPEAKER_05: Um, so so they're pardoned, they're hanging out in the Bahamas.
36:23
SPEAKER_05: They're in Nassau.
36:24
SPEAKER_05: Is that how you say it?
36:24
SPEAKER_05: Nassau?
36:25
SPEAKER_05: I think it's Nassau.
36:26
SPEAKER_05: Nassau.
36:27
SPEAKER_05: Because I think there's a county in New York that's also called Nassau.
36:30
SPEAKER_05: Nassau.
36:31
SPEAKER_05: They say it different in the British accent, but it's AU.
36:34
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
36:35
SPEAKER_03: But it's in the Bahamas, right?
36:36
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
36:37
SPEAKER_03: He's chilling, he's having a good time.
36:39
SPEAKER_03: So good, in fact.
36:40
SPEAKER_03: He meets a lovely woman.
36:44
SPEAKER_03: Sure, a lot of us have heard of this name.
36:46
SPEAKER_03: Her name is Anne Bonnie.
36:48
SPEAKER_03: Bonnie Lass.
36:49
SPEAKER_03: The Bonnie Lass.
36:51
SPEAKER_03: And she is married.
36:52
SPEAKER_03: She's the wife of James Bonnie or Jim Bonnie.
36:55
SPEAKER_03: And James is employed by Governor Rogers, the guy who just gave him the pardon.
37:00
SPEAKER_03: So he's kind of his buddy.
37:01
SPEAKER_03: Like informant.
37:02
SPEAKER_03: Yes, they're all in the same, the same circle together.
37:06
SPEAKER_03: Jack has a full-on affair with Anne.
37:08
SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah.
37:09
SPEAKER_03: And she gets caught.
37:10
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
37:10
SPEAKER_03: Of course it's the woman's fault, right?
37:12
SPEAKER_03: So her husband, James, orders her for a public whipping.
37:17
SPEAKER_03: Well, he he he finds out he wants her to get whipped, and the governor agrees to it and like sentences her to a public whipping for adultery.
37:26
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
37:27
SPEAKER_03: Like, let's keep teach this woman a lesson.
37:29
SPEAKER_03: Right, right.
37:30
SPEAKER_03: And Jack and Jack, of course, wants to save his Bonnie Lass.
37:33
SPEAKER_03: So he tries to negotiate with James and he wants to basically buy her.
37:38
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
37:39
SPEAKER_03: He wants a divorce by purchase.
37:42
SPEAKER_03: So he's his intentions is he wants to pay James to legally divorce his wife so Jack can swoop in and take her.
37:49
SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
37:49
SPEAKER_03: And uh James isn't having this.
37:51
SPEAKER_03: Um, and in fact, because he's buddies with the governor, now the governor's pissed off at Jack too.
37:58
SPEAKER_03: So they very much took sides on this.
38:00
SPEAKER_03: Right.
38:01
SPEAKER_03: Anne decides to just screw the whole situation.
38:03
SPEAKER_03: She runs away.
38:04
SPEAKER_03: She runs away with Jack.
38:06
SPEAKER_03: So they now have to flee their location in Nassau, the Bahamas, and they're on the run basically.
38:12
SPEAKER_05: They just take a ship and they go.
38:13
SPEAKER_03: They just go.
38:14
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
38:15
SPEAKER_03: Because he is now on the governor's bad side over this whole situation.
38:19
SPEAKER_03: Like he must have really have liked Anne Bonnie to do this.
38:21
SPEAKER_03: I think so.
38:22
SPEAKER_03: His pardon got voided for him and his whole crew.
38:25
SPEAKER_03: So they're back to the pirate life.
38:27
SPEAKER_03: Now they're really on the run because they're past now the date of being able to get pardoned because this was all in December of 2018.
38:38
SPEAKER_03: 2018.
38:42
SPEAKER_05: I I went along with it.
38:42
SPEAKER_05: It's like, yeah.
38:43
SPEAKER_05: Yes, yes.
38:44
SPEAKER_05: 2018 is when they parted on the pirate.
38:46
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
38:46
SPEAKER_03: No, 1718.
38:48
SPEAKER_03: So this was right at the look.
38:50
SPEAKER_03: I I do love this about Jack.
38:51
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
38:52
SPEAKER_03: He waited until the last minute for his fun and games of piracy until December.
38:57
SPEAKER_03: November, December, right, is when he finally like made port.
39:00
SPEAKER_03: He's like, all right.
39:01
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
39:02
SPEAKER_03: So, anyways, he missed the window, and now he's a full-blown pirate by law, illegally, and not doing so great.
39:10
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
39:10
SPEAKER_05: Um so September 1720, Governor Rogers issues a proclamation that Jack is officially a pirate again.
39:19
unknown: Cool.
39:20
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and he's it's kind of like free reign, right?
39:23
SPEAKER_05: It's like reward signs posted, like whoever can go get him, go get him.
39:27
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
39:28
SPEAKER_05: But we're gonna take an interesting little path here because we have to introduce two new characters, which one we already did.
39:34
SPEAKER_03: So we have Anne Bonnie.
39:35
SPEAKER_03: Anne Bonnie.
39:36
SPEAKER_03: And another woman comes into the mix, although no one knows it at first.
39:40
SPEAKER_03: No.
39:41
SPEAKER_03: Mary Reed.
39:42
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
39:42
SPEAKER_03: If these names are familiar, if you're if there's this little light bulb flickering in your brain, like Anne Bonnie and Mary Reed, where have we heard those names?
39:50
SPEAKER_03: Of course, they're two famous female pirates.
39:52
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
39:53
SPEAKER_03: But our favorite is if you notice in the line at Pirates of the Caribbean.
39:57
SPEAKER_03: At Disneyland.
39:58
SPEAKER_03: Disneyland.
39:59
SPEAKER_03: Is it in all the all the Disney attractions?
40:02
SPEAKER_05: I don't remember seeing it at Disney World.
40:04
SPEAKER_05: Those of you that are more familiar with Disney World can correct.
40:06
SPEAKER_03: Or Paris or Tokyo.
40:08
SPEAKER_05: I don't remember seeing it there.
40:10
SPEAKER_05: Even all of them.
40:11
SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
40:11
SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
40:12
SPEAKER_05: But I think it's only fused.
40:13
SPEAKER_03: I think it's only at Disneyland.
40:15
SPEAKER_05: I think so.
40:15
SPEAKER_03: So when you're in the queue for the line, there's a painting on the wall.
40:19
SPEAKER_03: Like there's a bunch of famous pirates that they kind of paint around, and they have Anne Bonnie and Mary Reese like looking very beautiful and they look like 1950s pinups.
40:29
SPEAKER_03: Volumptuous, like arm in arm, and it has their names underneath.
40:32
SPEAKER_03: But anyways, that's where I first recognize their names.
40:34
SPEAKER_03: And maybe I'm a total idiot if my references are Disneyland, but sorry, Disneyland educates me.
40:41
SPEAKER_05: Clearly it does.
40:42
SPEAKER_05: Alright, so we'll go a little bit into the background of Anne Bonnie first.
40:46
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
40:46
SPEAKER_05: And then we'll mention a bit about Mary, and then we'll kind of resume with the storyline that we have going.
40:51
SPEAKER_05: So Anne Bonnie was born in Ireland, and she was the daughter of a lawyer named William Cormac.
40:58
SPEAKER_05: So he actually he didn't have a child with his wife.
41:04
SPEAKER_05: He actually had Anne because Anne's mother was his servant.
41:09
SPEAKER_05: So William had this servant, Mary Brennan, who, while his wife was away, he started thinking of fondly and they started getting very close.
41:18
SPEAKER_05: And she bore his illegitimate kid.
41:21
SPEAKER_05: The wife was always very suspecting of Mary, the servant.
41:24
SPEAKER_05: So like it's rumored that at one point she actually like got in Mary's bed.
41:30
SPEAKER_05: The wife did, and kind of like just like waited to see, like, okay, if he is actually having an affair with the servant, he will come in this room and he will, like, you know, try to slide in that.
41:40
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, like like slink into the sheets.
41:43
SPEAKER_05: And sure enough, what does he do?
41:44
SPEAKER_05: He comes in the room and he slinks into the sheets and she's like, I knew it.
41:47
SPEAKER_05: Like this very dramatic soap opera kind of thing.
41:49
SPEAKER_02: Like, oh, I knew it's like, oh god, it's you.
41:53
SPEAKER_02: My wife.
41:55
SPEAKER_05: So uh so caught in the act, I we think.
41:58
SPEAKER_05: Um, but either way, he he tries to like move away from his wife, even though they're still together.
42:03
SPEAKER_05: So they move to London, and um, he's still trying to hide the fact that he has an illegitimate child.
42:09
SPEAKER_05: So even though he moves his house servant with him, Mary, uh-huh, all the way to London, he like dresses up Anne Bonnie, this young child, like as a boy, because she he doesn't want any questions.
42:19
SPEAKER_05: He doesn't want anyone to question the legitimacy.
42:21
SPEAKER_03: Oh, because you can clearly like you can't have a female illegitimate child, but if you have a little bastard, that's okay.
42:28
SPEAKER_05: He like he made the son look like a relative.
42:30
SPEAKER_05: Like it wasn't.
42:31
SPEAKER_03: Or like his little apprentice or something.
42:33
SPEAKER_05: And he literally gave him like a tiny little like clerical job at his law firm to be like, no, you're just a little lawyer buddy, and like you're my who knows what relative he claimed he was.
42:43
SPEAKER_05: So he like dressed-anne.
42:44
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but it's Anne Bonnie this whole time.
42:47
SPEAKER_05: Um, and uh she was known to be very fiery, like from a young age.
42:51
SPEAKER_05: She even like stabbed another servant with a knife when she was young.
42:55
SPEAKER_05: Like, she was very devious.
42:58
SPEAKER_03: This girl.
42:58
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
42:58
SPEAKER_05: Um but at the at the end of it, like he never actually like established himself as a new, as a like a new and legitimate lawyer in this new town.
43:07
SPEAKER_05: So their life kind of just like fell apart at that point.
43:10
SPEAKER_05: Like, Mary, the servant, died, Anne's mother, and then once Anne was grown up enough to like make her own decision, she wanted to marry the sailor, James Bonnie.
43:19
SPEAKER_03: So many marries.
43:21
SPEAKER_05: I know this is marriage, Mary.
43:23
SPEAKER_05: Um, so she brings like James to her father, William, and she's like, Okay, I found the man I want to marry.
43:28
SPEAKER_05: Like, this is him.
43:29
SPEAKER_05: He's like, he's a poor sailor.
43:30
SPEAKER_05: Like, you know, William is has his uh you know enough prestige to to know that this is not a good match.
43:37
SPEAKER_05: So he rejects the marriage and says, No, you can't marry this poor sailor.
43:41
SPEAKER_05: So she decides to like run away with James anyway.
43:45
SPEAKER_05: And he essentially says, Okay, you run away, I disown you.
43:48
SPEAKER_05: So he disowned Anne Bonnie.
43:51
SPEAKER_05: And it it's rumored, we don't know how much truth there is to this, but it's rumored that when she left, she set her father's plantation on fire.
44:00
unknown: Yeah.
44:01
SPEAKER_03: This girl.
44:01
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
44:02
SPEAKER_05: She's fiery.
44:03
SPEAKER_05: Whether she did that or not, the fact that there's even a rumor that you did that means you're kind of crazy.
44:08
SPEAKER_03: Something behind it.
44:09
SPEAKER_03: Like maybe maybe if it was just a little spark, or maybe she like threatened it, or maybe, you know, like caught the curtain on fire, then like they caught but it came from somewhere.
44:17
SPEAKER_03: Came from somewhere.
44:17
SPEAKER_03: No one, I don't know.
44:18
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
44:19
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
44:19
SPEAKER_03: Okay, so thank you.
44:20
SPEAKER_03: So that's Anne Bonnie.
44:21
SPEAKER_05: Yes.
44:22
SPEAKER_05: And just really quick.
44:23
SPEAKER_05: So once she is married to James, like he wants to move to the Bahamas to start a new life there.
44:29
SPEAKER_05: And sounds great.
44:31
SPEAKER_05: I know, and and serve the new governor there.
44:33
SPEAKER_05: So he moves her to the Bahamas.
44:35
SPEAKER_05: And once she gets to the Bahamas, like, you know, she realized, like, okay, I just had this kind of exciting ordeal where I ran away with this man and this is supposed to be it.
44:44
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
44:44
SPEAKER_05: But she's fiery.
44:46
SPEAKER_05: She gets bored very fast.
44:47
SPEAKER_05: And so she starts going to the taverns and hanging out with pirates.
44:50
SPEAKER_03: And there's hot pirates coming in town.
44:52
SPEAKER_05: Hot pirates, there's new pirates every week.
44:54
SPEAKER_05: Like, she's excited, you know, and that's when she finally meets Jack.
44:58
SPEAKER_05: And when she does meet Jack again, they go on their like whirlwind romance, and again, he tries to buy her and all of that.
45:05
SPEAKER_05: Um, but once she's a part of his crew, is when she meets Mary.
45:09
SPEAKER_03: Okay, I know more about Mary.
45:10
SPEAKER_05: Go ahead with Mary.
45:11
SPEAKER_05: Also, really quick, Mary and Ann.
45:14
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
45:14
SPEAKER_03: Cool.
45:15
SPEAKER_03: I didn't think of that.
45:16
SPEAKER_03: Okay, Mary Reed.
45:17
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
45:18
SPEAKER_03: I do know about Mary.
45:19
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
45:20
SPEAKER_03: I don't know where she was born or where she grew up.
45:22
SPEAKER_03: Probably.
45:22
SPEAKER_03: I'm assuming England.
45:24
SPEAKER_03: She has a very different story, but she did also, she was raised having to wear boys' clothing.
45:31
SPEAKER_03: Very different reason, though.
45:33
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
45:34
SPEAKER_03: So her mother had a son already.
45:37
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
45:38
SPEAKER_03: And the grandmother was giving inheritance and money to the son.
45:44
SPEAKER_03: Her husband dies, and she had another illegitimate child, Mary.
45:51
SPEAKER_03: And the mother didn't want to know that this other girl existed.
45:55
SPEAKER_03: Right.
45:55
SPEAKER_03: She also didn't want to stop the funds coming through from the grandmother.
45:59
SPEAKER_03: So she somehow pulled this off where she convinced the grandmother that this daughter was the same boy.
46:07
SPEAKER_03: This is my son.
46:08
SPEAKER_03: Like, I'm sure she maybe she was blind or she just didn't see her in person.
46:13
SPEAKER_05: Or like enough time had passed in between them growing up that she was like, Yeah, this is the boy I told you.
46:18
SPEAKER_05: I told you I had the boy, and here's the boy.
46:20
SPEAKER_03: So she dressed and uh sorry, she dressed Mary up, Mary Reed up in boys' clothing.
46:25
SPEAKER_03: Right.
46:25
SPEAKER_03: Just to try to get the money from the grandmother to convince her that she had only one son.
46:31
SPEAKER_03: It's wild.
46:32
SPEAKER_02: It's such a weird story.
46:33
SPEAKER_03: But you know what?
46:34
SPEAKER_03: They didn't have internet.
46:36
SPEAKER_03: No photos.
46:38
SPEAKER_02: Facebook.
46:38
SPEAKER_02: They didn't have Facebook or even MySpace.
46:41
SPEAKER_02: No, no MySpace, no Twitter.
46:43
SPEAKER_02: Um, so I don't know.
46:45
SPEAKER_02: I guess they kind of pulled it off.
46:46
SPEAKER_02: They did.
46:47
SPEAKER_03: Um, eventually, Mary, you know, she grows up, she gets married, she opens up an inn with her husband, and she works at the inn with her husband up until he dies.
46:57
SPEAKER_03: After he dies, she I think really enjoyed the masculinity and the respect and everything that she got while cross-dressing as a boy.
47:05
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
47:05
SPEAKER_03: It's kind of like a Mulan-ish type story.
47:07
SPEAKER_03: A little bit, yeah.
47:08
SPEAKER_03: She ends up joining the military dressed as a man.
47:11
SPEAKER_05: Which is wild.
47:13
SPEAKER_03: She the ship that she was on in the military was conveniently taken over by Calico Jack.
47:20
SPEAKER_03: Right.
47:20
SPEAKER_03: With Anne Bonnie there.
47:21
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
47:22
SPEAKER_03: She claims that she may have been forced to join the crew, but she probably liked it.
47:27
SPEAKER_03: She probably does know how to have fun.
47:30
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, like they like to drink and party and they like violence, and so do I.
47:34
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
47:34
SPEAKER_05: So she literally jumped ship.
47:35
SPEAKER_03: She jumped that the term jump ship in the most literal way here.
47:39
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
47:40
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
47:41
SPEAKER_03: So she's still dressing as a man and she's trying to convince every all the whole crew, probably, you know, obviously for her own safety purposes also.
47:49
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you don't want to be the only woman on an all-male drunken pirate crew.
47:53
SPEAKER_03: Also, side note, there was a superstition that having a woman on the ship is bad luck.
47:59
SPEAKER_03: Right.
48:00
SPEAKER_03: For example, Blackbeard, he really stuck to that rule and he refused to have any woman on the ship for whatever reason.
48:06
SPEAKER_03: I know that not to keep mentioning parts of the Caribbean, but it's a great reference point.
48:10
SPEAKER_03: They didn't get everything so wrong.
48:12
SPEAKER_03: Right.
48:12
SPEAKER_03: They also mentioned that, like, oh, she can't step foot on the ship, it's bad luck and all of that.
48:16
SPEAKER_05: Even a miniature one.
48:18
SPEAKER_03: Yes, exactly.
48:19
SPEAKER_03: Even a miniature one.
48:20
SPEAKER_05: Um, and really quick, too, so like uh again, when Anne and Mary meet each other, they both don't know the other one's a woman.
48:27
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
48:28
SPEAKER_05: Right?
48:28
SPEAKER_05: Like they're so convincingly dressed in men's clothing, they're dirty, they're pirates, like they don't know.
48:34
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, because Anne Bonnie's also dressed as a man.
48:36
SPEAKER_03: Right.
48:36
SPEAKER_03: Even though she's hanky pinking with Jack.
48:39
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
48:39
SPEAKER_03: Mary Reed is dressed as a man.
48:41
SPEAKER_05: Mm-hmm.
48:42
SPEAKER_05: But they have to pick up on that.
48:44
SPEAKER_05: I think they slowly picked up subtle signs that only women can pick up with each other.
48:49
SPEAKER_05: Obviously, they noticed, oh, you're a bit more feminine, maybe you're a bit more attractive.
48:53
SPEAKER_05: And it actually was.
48:55
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, like your bosom's a bit fine.
48:57
SPEAKER_03: Maybe she asks her for a maxi pad one day.
48:59
SPEAKER_03: Oh no.
49:00
SPEAKER_05: She's like, No, it's my my lady cycle, and I don't I'm without my items.
49:05
SPEAKER_05: I got no tan packs on me.
49:07
SPEAKER_05: You got anything in?
49:08
SPEAKER_05: So, so eventually it comes out between just the two ladies that they are in fact women.
49:13
SPEAKER_05: And they held each other to such secrecy that it wasn't until Jack got suspicious, like Calico Jack got suspicious of Anne Bonnie because he was like, Hey, why do you like that pilot so well?
49:25
SPEAKER_03: They were spending a lot of time because they, of course, like as the only women, they become best friends and they're spending a lot of time together.
49:31
SPEAKER_03: And what else is he supposed to think?
49:33
SPEAKER_03: What an idiot, right?
49:34
SPEAKER_03: Like he doesn't notice it's a woman.
49:35
SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
49:36
SPEAKER_05: So he gets very jealous of this quote unquote, like man, like young man who's on his ship flirting with his lover, and he finally confronts her.
49:43
SPEAKER_05: He's like, hey, like, is there something going on, you know, with with this guy?
49:47
SPEAKER_05: And she's like, I gotta tell you, like, the guy's a girl, his name's Mary, we're best friends.
49:53
SPEAKER_04: He's like, Oh, that's fine.
49:55
SPEAKER_03: There is some say of perhaps Mary and Ann had more than just a friendship.
50:00
SPEAKER_03: Perhaps, yeah.
50:01
SPEAKER_03: There's also talk that once Jack discovered who Mary was, that perhaps the three of them had more than just a friendship.
50:08
SPEAKER_05: Right, perhaps it was a thruple.
50:10
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know what?
50:11
SPEAKER_03: They were pirates, they lived by their own.
50:13
SPEAKER_03: Drake and they did not do dry January, and they were not sad and boring and dry.
50:23
SPEAKER_03: So they just did what they wanted to do, and you know, I I don't know what side of the fence you're on.
50:28
SPEAKER_03: I think it's plausible.
50:30
SPEAKER_05: Well, here's the reason why I think it might be plausible, and we'll get to this now that we're kind of summing up the story a bit.
50:38
SPEAKER_05: But at the end of the day, like once all the pirates were taken in, and we'll get to this.
50:45
SPEAKER_05: Um, Mary claims she's pregnant.
50:47
SPEAKER_05: Oh.
50:48
SPEAKER_05: And who else wouldn't pregnate her?
50:49
SPEAKER_05: And there are a lot of dudes on this ship, and they're making port a lot.
50:52
SPEAKER_05: They are making port, so maybe when she was, you know, dropped anchor at a tavern, I guess, you know.
50:59
SPEAKER_03: Maybe she dropped her anchor a little too hard.
51:01
SPEAKER_05: You know, maybe, maybe she let loose a little bit, but you know, she always claimed that she never had relations with anyone on the ship.
51:08
SPEAKER_05: But at the end of the story, she does end up pregnant, so someone impregnated her.
51:11
SPEAKER_05: I don't think Anne did that.
51:13
SPEAKER_05: Anne did not do that.
51:14
SPEAKER_05: So take that for what it is.
51:16
SPEAKER_05: So we'll get to how they were actually captured.
51:20
SPEAKER_03: So at this point, we're going back to October 31st, 1720.
51:24
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
51:25
SPEAKER_03: There is a bounty hunters, they were also called pirate hunters.
51:29
SPEAKER_03: I like that.
51:30
SPEAKER_03: This would be a cool movie.
51:31
SPEAKER_03: I guess they did that as a series by Disney of people catching pirates.
51:36
SPEAKER_03: But like Pirate Hunters?
51:38
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
51:38
SPEAKER_03: Wasn't there like I guess maybe not?
51:41
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
51:41
SPEAKER_03: I was trying to think in the storyline if people were chasing after Jack Sparrow and they were kind of like the bounty hunters.
51:46
SPEAKER_03: Oh, anyways, it's kind of a cool job.
51:48
SPEAKER_03: So the governor puts this task.
51:50
SPEAKER_03: There's a um like a reward for them, there's a warrant out for them.
51:54
SPEAKER_03: He knows that they are doing bad business out on the seas.
51:57
SPEAKER_03: The pardon was voided, so they sent out the bounty hunters, the pirate hunters.
52:02
SPEAKER_03: Right.
52:02
SPEAKER_05: Um, so the bounty hunters' names were Jonathan Barnett and Jean or Jean uh Bonadivus.
52:10
SPEAKER_05: Sounds French.
52:12
SPEAKER_05: Right?
52:12
SPEAKER_05: It looks French to me.
52:13
SPEAKER_05: Lafayette.
52:14
SPEAKER_05: Jean Bonadivus.
52:16
SPEAKER_05: Um, so so they were the ones who were mo mainly pursuing Calico Jack.
52:22
SPEAKER_05: So by Halloween, October 31st, 1720, uh Jonathan and Jean discover Jack and his crew, like kind of just set up shop, like ported it at uh somewhere in Jamaica, I'm not exactly sure where.
52:36
SPEAKER_05: So of course, as soon as like they see each other, who are who are on the deck that are like trying to rally the troops to come forward and fight the pirate hunters, the women.
52:48
SPEAKER_05: Like Mary and Anne are there saying, All right, crew, like here they are, they're they're here to get us, like we know what comes next.
52:55
SPEAKER_05: Like, fight to the death, let's go.
52:56
SPEAKER_05: They're the ones with all the courage.
52:58
SPEAKER_05: And the men are literally either too drunk from the night before or too scared because they're all just like hanging out below deck.
53:06
SPEAKER_05: We're good.
53:07
SPEAKER_03: Like, this might just you know what?
53:08
SPEAKER_03: We've had a good run.
53:10
SPEAKER_03: Right.
53:10
SPEAKER_03: Supposedly some of them did drop sores, and they're just like, nah, I ain't got it in me tonight.
53:16
SPEAKER_05: So only the women were there trying to like get people to fight.
53:19
SPEAKER_05: Everyone else just kind of turned over and they they exchanged some cannon fire.
53:24
SPEAKER_05: Like one guy was like, All right, he had one of those like swivel cannons and shot at the the pirate hunters, but they weren't really putting up much of a fight.
53:32
SPEAKER_05: It was like some shots exchanged, nothing really that intentional.
53:35
SPEAKER_05: The women were trying to rally everybody, and no one did anything.
53:39
SPEAKER_03: Even Jack eventually surrendered and he just saw it as a loss, and he dropped his weapons and he's like, Yep, I think the jig is up.
53:46
SPEAKER_03: And at that point, they got real fired up.
53:50
SPEAKER_03: Um, so much so that I think it was Anne.
53:52
SPEAKER_03: Actually, she took her pistol because she's they're up on the top deck and everyone else is hiding down below.
53:57
SPEAKER_03: She takes her pistol and she shoots down below and actually ends up killing one of the crew members, one of the the their own pirates.
54:04
SPEAKER_03: Good cowards.
54:05
SPEAKER_03: But it was just to like wake them up, like, boys, get up here.
54:08
SPEAKER_03: We're not gonna.
54:09
SPEAKER_03: And I don't know if you have the actual quote, but she's calling them cowards and whatnot, and um, ye men come hither and all of that.
54:17
SPEAKER_03: So it it is I love this turn of events where it's the badass two women who are there to fight till the end.
54:24
SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
54:24
SPEAKER_03: Um, but they do get caught.
54:26
SPEAKER_03: They, you know, they went in with with high confidence and thought that they could do it, but unfortunately, Jack was kind of right.
54:32
SPEAKER_03: The the army was just too big for them.
54:36
SPEAKER_03: So they were caught and arrested.
54:39
SPEAKER_03: Cut so now we're in November, right?
54:42
SPEAKER_03: And they're in the Spanish town, and this is where they have their trial, and they are convicted of piracy.
54:48
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, exactly.
54:50
SPEAKER_05: Um, so the day is November 18th, 1720, and uh they execute by hanging Calico Jack.
55:00
SPEAKER_05: So they decide to make his a little bit more public because he is the captain, right?
55:04
SPEAKER_05: Um, so after the hanging, they actually put him in a gibbet, which we talked about with William Kidd.
55:10
SPEAKER_05: Not a gibbet.
55:10
SPEAKER_05: Not a gibbet, but a gibbet.
55:12
SPEAKER_05: Gibbet.
55:12
SPEAKER_05: It's like one of those cages that kind of fits around your human form, and they put you in there so that way, like, not only is your body just decomposing there, but you can get like pecked up by seagulls and things.
55:23
SPEAKER_05: And we saw a gibbet.
55:25
SPEAKER_05: We did.
55:25
SPEAKER_05: We went to the William Kidd bar in London.
55:29
SPEAKER_05: Um, and uh yeah, like we we had such a good time at that bar, and just seeing where it act like where he actually had his little pub crawl and where he was hanged was so wild.
55:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
55:39
SPEAKER_05: Um but that was in London, so this is the Caribbean.
55:42
SPEAKER_05: Maybe we gotta go there, right?
55:43
SPEAKER_05: I forget.
55:44
SPEAKER_03: We actually didn't see the gibbet and we were mad.
55:46
SPEAKER_03: We just saw like a news.
55:47
SPEAKER_05: It was a new hanging news, more for show.
55:49
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it was all I mean it wasn't like the news, but it was I got a kick out of it.
55:52
SPEAKER_05: Still, still enjoyed that.
55:54
SPEAKER_05: Um so so he was gibbeted and put on display on this small like islet um in the main entrance of Port Royal in Jamaica, and now it's known as Rackham's Cage.
56:05
SPEAKER_05: I like that.
56:06
SPEAKER_05: It's not cage.
56:07
SPEAKER_05: K.
56:08
SPEAKER_05: Sorry.
56:08
SPEAKER_05: K?
56:09
SPEAKER_05: K.
56:11
SPEAKER_05: C-A-Y.
56:13
SPEAKER_03: What's that?
56:15
SPEAKER_05: Like a like a bay.
56:18
SPEAKER_03: Oh, it's not a bay, it's a K.
56:20
SPEAKER_03: It's a K.
56:21
SPEAKER_03: I've never heard of that.
56:22
SPEAKER_05: It's like a Bay, K, um, what do you call it?
56:26
SPEAKER_05: Not what am I?
56:27
SPEAKER_05: A little inlet.
56:28
SPEAKER_05: Like, yeah, it's like an inlet, like a little body of water.
56:31
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
56:31
SPEAKER_03: I've never heard of that term.
56:32
SPEAKER_05: You've heard of like the Cayman Islands.
56:35
SPEAKER_03: Okay, yeah.
56:35
SPEAKER_05: Like K is a very tropical, like it's a K.
56:39
SPEAKER_05: Cool.
56:39
SPEAKER_05: I like that.
56:40
SPEAKER_03: But he had a large crowd.
56:41
SPEAKER_03: We don't have so much about the actual details of his hanging.
56:44
SPEAKER_03: I'm sure it was just like by the book.
56:46
SPEAKER_03: Right.
56:46
SPEAKER_03: You know, seems pretty straightforward.
56:50
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
56:51
SPEAKER_05: At the time.
56:51
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
56:53
SPEAKER_03: Anne and Mary were also tried and convicted of piracy, and they were also sentenced to death.
56:59
SPEAKER_03: But this is not an their execution story.
57:02
SPEAKER_03: Right.
57:02
SPEAKER_03: Conveniently, as Elizabeth mentioned, they both said they were pregnant.
57:07
SPEAKER_03: Do we know by the same man?
57:09
SPEAKER_03: Maybe.
57:09
SPEAKER_03: Right.
57:10
SPEAKER_03: We don't know.
57:11
SPEAKER_03: Or they'll the same time along.
57:13
SPEAKER_03: We don't know.
57:14
SPEAKER_03: It's possible.
57:16
SPEAKER_05: Do we know if they were even pregnant?
57:17
SPEAKER_05: That could be an easy way for a woman to get out of anything.
57:20
SPEAKER_03: Right, exactly.
57:21
SPEAKER_03: We know for sure, funny enough, that Mary was pregnant because she actually does end up giving birth in April.
57:30
SPEAKER_03: So let's see, let's do math.
57:32
SPEAKER_03: If that was in November, November, December, January, February, March.
57:35
SPEAKER_03: Like six months.
57:37
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
57:38
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
57:38
SPEAKER_03: So that's fair.
57:39
SPEAKER_03: She was probably like four months pregnant then when she was arrested.
57:42
SPEAKER_03: Right.
57:43
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
57:43
SPEAKER_03: So she actually does give birth in jail.
57:46
SPEAKER_03: Kind of nice, I guess they don't hang her in that state.
57:49
SPEAKER_03: But unfortunately, she died from fever after the birth in April 1721.
57:54
SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
57:56
SPEAKER_03: And Anne.
57:59
SPEAKER_05: We don't know what happened to her.
58:00
SPEAKER_03: No one knows.
58:01
SPEAKER_03: She is a mystery of what happened to her, which is kind of cool, I guess, in a way.
58:05
SPEAKER_05: There is no record of her execution at all.
58:08
SPEAKER_05: Um, and there's no record that she was released or that she died in prison.
58:12
SPEAKER_05: Or that she escaped.
58:13
SPEAKER_05: Or that she left.
58:14
SPEAKER_05: So people like generally have the theory that because she did have her previous husband, right?
58:24
SPEAKER_05: Bonnie, who was connected with the governor, like maybe at the end of this whole thing, they decided, okay, like either go back to your husband or like let's find you a place to live and raise your child.
58:37
SPEAKER_05: Maybe they snuck her away to the American colonies.
58:39
SPEAKER_05: Like nobody really knows what actually happened to her, but there we just know that there was no record of an execution or death or escape.
58:47
SPEAKER_03: I read in the She was just simply gone.
58:50
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I read in one article that they thought maybe she lived into her 80s just under a different pseudonym.
58:55
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
58:55
SPEAKER_03: Continued on doing her thing.
58:57
SPEAKER_03: Um, I did want to mention though, really quick, I thought this was kind of funny and cute, and maybe not a little sassy of Anne.
59:04
SPEAKER_03: Uh so when right before Calico Jack was being executed, he his final wish was to see Anne one last time.
59:13
SPEAKER_03: Of course.
59:13
SPEAKER_03: And we have documented the last thing that she said to me.
59:17
SPEAKER_03: I love this.
59:18
SPEAKER_03: And it was if you had fought like a man, you need not have been hanged like a dog.
59:24
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
59:26
SPEAKER_03: I just want to say that in an Irish accent, but I don't want to ruin it.
59:29
SPEAKER_03: They should have Sirias to say.
59:31
SPEAKER_03: Well, I was gonna say, we'll have like an AI version of that.
59:34
SPEAKER_03: That's so cool.
59:35
SPEAKER_03: If you had fought like a man, you need not have been hanged like a dog.
59:38
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that's a badass thing to say.
59:41
SPEAKER_03: But yeah, she was she was a little pistol, and we don't know what happened to her.
59:45
SPEAKER_03: I'd like to envision her like breaking free and living the rest of her days and drinking on a beach.
59:52
SPEAKER_05: What if she became a pirate again under like another male's name?
59:56
SPEAKER_05: As possible.
59:57
SPEAKER_05: What if like she's blackbearded?
59:59
SPEAKER_03: She's yeah, what if like or she's William Kidd.
1:00:01
SPEAKER_03: She's William Kidd.
1:00:04
SPEAKER_03: Twist in the story here, and we all come full circle.
1:00:08
SPEAKER_05: No, we don't we don't know.
1:00:09
SPEAKER_03: We don't know.
1:00:10
SPEAKER_05: Um she's too fiery, in my opinion, to just have lived quietly for the rest of her life somewhere.
1:00:15
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:00:16
SPEAKER_05: Like maybe if she had a kid, she would do it for the kid to be like, all right, like I'm gonna raise this child and figure out what I want to do.
1:00:23
SPEAKER_05: But like, she given just her past, everything she's been through, how how unsatisfied she is with just like leading a content normal life, it leads me to believe that like she went off in another identity and did something crazy.
1:00:37
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, she's not stupid, she was smart.
1:00:39
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:00:40
SPEAKER_03: Um, kind of like the overall impression of Captain Calico Jack.
1:00:44
SPEAKER_03: He uh, I mean, we've already kind of talked about he's very much like the cliche red coat our hero.
1:00:51
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:00:52
SPEAKER_03: Speaking of, I'm allowed one pirate joke.
1:00:54
SPEAKER_03: Oh, tell tell your joke.
1:00:56
SPEAKER_03: Go ahead.
1:00:56
SPEAKER_03: Uh, what is a pirate's favorite letter in the alphabet?
1:01:00
SPEAKER_05: Oh, Megan.
1:01:02
SPEAKER_05: R.
1:01:03
SPEAKER_05: We're more in love with the sea.
1:01:06
SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
1:01:08
SPEAKER_04: You're more in love with the sea.
1:01:11
SPEAKER_04: I get it, I get it.
1:01:12
SPEAKER_03: Anywho, the overlasting, like the the legacy of Calico Jack.
1:01:18
SPEAKER_03: Um, this one we cannot confirm, but I kind of like it.
1:01:22
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:01:22
SPEAKER_03: Is that his flag was the Jolly Roger?
1:01:25
SPEAKER_05: Like the Jolly Roger flag that we all think of.
1:01:27
SPEAKER_05: Like the black sail, white skull, white swords crossed.
1:01:32
SPEAKER_05: Like that's the Jolly Roger flag.
1:01:34
SPEAKER_05: And some people say that he created that.
1:01:36
SPEAKER_05: Like he invented that.
1:01:37
SPEAKER_05: That's the flag that he he uh lifted when he sailed.
1:01:42
SPEAKER_03: Sailed with the Jolly Roger.
1:01:44
SPEAKER_03: And like, I mean, gosh, even there's an emoji of that.
1:01:48
SPEAKER_03: So he did pretty good for himself.
1:01:50
SPEAKER_05: I use that emoji a lot with you.
1:01:51
SPEAKER_05: I feel like I send you a lot of pirate emojis.
1:01:53
SPEAKER_03: You know what's funny?
1:01:54
SPEAKER_03: My team at work, too.
1:01:55
SPEAKER_03: Whenever like I send requests via a chat, they all kind of like acknowledge by uh like adding the pirate flag.
1:02:04
SPEAKER_03: I don't know what that means.
1:02:06
SPEAKER_02: I don't think that's a good sign, maybe like I captain.
1:02:10
SPEAKER_05: No, I think it's more of like a fuck you, I'm a pirate.
1:02:14
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
1:02:15
SPEAKER_03: I just take it.
1:02:15
SPEAKER_03: I'm like, yeah, as long as you're acknowledging this has been read, thank you.
1:02:18
SPEAKER_03: And it was a like reply with the flag.
1:02:21
SPEAKER_05: Interesting.
1:02:22
SPEAKER_05: Is that some Gen Z thing we don't know?
1:02:24
SPEAKER_05: Like Gen Zs tell you, like, no, we're not doing that with a pirate flag.
1:02:28
SPEAKER_03: I I I think it's funny.
1:02:30
SPEAKER_05: Interesting.
1:02:31
SPEAKER_03: Um, and then do you want to talk a little bit about like what happened with the everyone else?
1:02:35
SPEAKER_05: There's nothing else I really want to say about the rest of the crew.
1:02:38
SPEAKER_05: I simply want to acknowledge like the names of the people that were executed because at the end of the day, you know, this is beheaded.
1:02:45
SPEAKER_05: We talk about all executions, we don't want to leave anyone out.
1:02:48
SPEAKER_05: So while we don't know much about these folks right now, I just want to name their names.
1:02:52
SPEAKER_03: It wasn't just Jack, they all kind of went down together.
1:02:55
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:02:55
SPEAKER_05: So there are some men who, whether they were crew members or just were simply drinking with um just been out on the town with Calico Jack, they were tried and convicted of piracy.
1:03:09
SPEAKER_05: And on the 24th of January 1721, they were also executed.
1:03:14
SPEAKER_05: So there is John Eaton, Thomas Quick, Thomas Baker.
1:03:19
SPEAKER_05: They were all executed at Gallows Point in Port Royal.
1:03:22
SPEAKER_03: Oh, cool.
1:03:23
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:03:23
SPEAKER_03: I mean, not cool, but you know things we're into on the show.
1:03:28
SPEAKER_05: And then quickly after, John Cole, John Howard, and Benjamin Palmer were also executed at Kingston.
1:03:35
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
1:03:35
SPEAKER_05: So just a little bit about his crew and where they went.
1:03:38
SPEAKER_05: Um, because again, a lot of them relied on him for they they wanted the violence and the and the pirate's life for me type of thing.
1:03:48
SPEAKER_03: Um the ship's master who went went down was George Featherston.
1:03:52
SPEAKER_03: Their quartermaster was Richard Corner.
1:03:56
SPEAKER_03: That's kind of cute.
1:03:57
SPEAKER_03: A quartermaster Richard Corner.
1:03:59
SPEAKER_03: Cute.
1:04:00
SPEAKER_03: Okay, John Davis, John, Howell, they were all executed along with Jack Rackham and Port Royal, too.
1:04:07
SPEAKER_03: Um and then there were a few others the next day because they like to space it out, not you know, don't give the people what they want all at once.
1:04:14
SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
1:04:14
SPEAKER_03: Uh Patrick Cardi, Thomas Earle, James Dobbin, Noah Harwood.
1:04:19
SPEAKER_03: What a nice name.
1:04:19
SPEAKER_05: Noah all like actor names.
1:04:22
SPEAKER_03: Noah Harwood.
1:04:23
SPEAKER_03: Oh, that's an actor.
1:04:25
SPEAKER_05: Dashing fellow.
1:04:26
SPEAKER_05: He was executed at Kingston.
1:04:30
SPEAKER_03: I like his name.
1:04:31
SPEAKER_03: See him as a kind of like a ruffian with like a beard and but he looks like Henry Cavill.
1:04:37
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
1:04:39
SPEAKER_05: Could be.
1:04:40
SPEAKER_05: Uh so we just want to acknowledge some of his crew members.
1:04:42
SPEAKER_05: Again, he probably had way more crew members than that, but these are some of the notable names that were executed either alongside him or soon after.
1:04:50
SPEAKER_05: Um, but again, whether or not he was a great pirate, who knows?
1:04:54
SPEAKER_05: He only was on the map for a couple of years.
1:04:56
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:04:57
SPEAKER_05: So, in a way, it's impressive that he is so famous and he only was like, he only, to our knowledge, was very big pirate or captain for two years.
1:05:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:05:06
SPEAKER_05: You know, but a lot of people here will argue that the reason for his fame, too, is because of the two women, because of Anne and Yeah, I think I think that's it.
1:05:15
SPEAKER_03: Like, I don't think he would have had such an exciting story if it was not for Anne and Mary.
1:05:19
SPEAKER_03: Right.
1:05:19
SPEAKER_03: It was so rare, not just to have a woman on a pirate ship, but to have a woman fighting with pistols and axes and actually a part of the violence.
1:05:29
SPEAKER_03: That is super rare.
1:05:30
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and rallying all the drunken men to to fight.
1:05:34
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and supposedly not getting pregnant by any of them.
1:05:37
SPEAKER_03: Sure.
1:05:38
SPEAKER_03: Immaculate.
1:05:39
SPEAKER_03: But it did work in their favor when they had to go to the gallows.
1:05:42
SPEAKER_03: I know.
1:05:43
SPEAKER_03: So okay.
1:05:44
SPEAKER_03: Well, Elizabeth, for your final words.
1:05:46
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
1:05:47
SPEAKER_03: Before you walk the plank.
1:05:48
SPEAKER_03: Oh, I'm walking the plank tonight.
1:05:50
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
1:05:51
SPEAKER_03: I think it's more for me.
1:05:52
SPEAKER_03: I didn't do my best in this episode.
1:05:55
SPEAKER_03: No, you did fine.
1:05:56
SPEAKER_01: You just need some more wine to calm you out.
1:05:57
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so I'm gonna make you walk the plank for that reason.
1:06:00
SPEAKER_03: Oh.
1:06:01
SPEAKER_03: Do you have any final cheesy pirate jokes for us?
1:06:06
SPEAKER_05: I have one for you.
1:06:07
SPEAKER_05: Oh, I love it.
1:06:08
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
1:06:09
SPEAKER_05: How did the pirate get his jolly Roger so cheaply?
1:06:14
SPEAKER_05: He showed his booty.
1:06:17
SPEAKER_05: Oh, that's pretty good.
1:06:19
SPEAKER_02: Is that not it?
1:06:19
SPEAKER_05: He got it on sale.
1:06:24
SPEAKER_02: The booty works too.
1:06:25
SPEAKER_02: The booty does work.
1:06:28
SPEAKER_00: My heart is pierced by cupid.
1:06:31
SPEAKER_00: I just did all glimpse.
1:06:38
SPEAKER_00: When my job is so his hair hangs in ring, his eyes as black as cold.
1:06:49
SPEAKER_00: My happiness attended.
1:06:52
SPEAKER_00: Wherever he may go From the world to black water, I wander even more for my joy savour.
1:07:06
SPEAKER_00: Until he saved her.
1:07:09
SPEAKER_00: My heart is peace by Cuba.
1:07:13
SPEAKER_00: I destroyed a written gold.
1:07:16
SPEAKER_00: There is nothing can control me.
1:07:20
SPEAKER_00: But my joy savour.
1:07:24
SPEAKER_00: My father is a merchant, the truth I know.
1:07:30
SPEAKER_00: And in Greatland.
1:07:34
SPEAKER_00: In our humans dot well.
1:07:37
SPEAKER_00: His fortune doth exceed three hundred thousand gold.
1:07:43
SPEAKER_00: And he frowns upon his daughter.
1:08:00
SPEAKER_00: Give me my savior.