Latest / The Mark Belling Podcast / Mark Belling Podcast #137: Hannah Dugan gets a walk; Mark discusses the probation sentence for the felon Milwaukee Judge who obstructed ICE agents. President Trump changes his tune on Iran. Waukesha County mourns the loss of County Exec Paul Farrow but won't have much time to pick the replacement for that critical job.
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- 0:24Speaker 2: We have a lot to talk about today, so let's
- 0:26Speaker 2: get right into it. Milwaukee County Circuit Judge Hannah Dugan
- 0:31Speaker 2: yesterday was given I'll just call it a walk. She
- 0:36Speaker 2: was given a minuscule fying and probation despite the fact
- 0:41Speaker 2: that she committed a felony while in public office, public
- 0:45Speaker 2: office of a judge. This is receiving a lot of
- 0:49Speaker 2: criticism from my friends on the right, people who think
- 0:54Speaker 2: like me. I'm going to give you my take on
- 0:57Speaker 2: this sentence in a moment here, but I'll tease it
- 1:01Speaker 2: pretty strongly. I'm okay with her not getting prison. I'm
- 1:08Speaker 2: going to explain why. But there is a butt. There's
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- 1:47Speaker 2: background for people who haven't followed the story closely. Hannah
- 1:51Speaker 2: Dugan is a longtime Milwaukee County Circuit judge. Last year,
- 1:57Speaker 2: ICE agents Immigration and Customs and Form had a warrant.
- 2:04Speaker 2: The warrant was for somebody who was a defendant in
- 2:06Speaker 2: a separate case in Dugan's court. Obviously, if you're icing,
- 2:12Speaker 2: you're looking for someone and you realize that person is
- 2:15Speaker 2: doing court that day, you'd have to be a dunce
- 2:19Speaker 2: cap of an ICE agent to not go to the
- 2:21Speaker 2: courthouse and say, gee, maybe he'll show up there, which
- 2:25Speaker 2: is what they did. They showed up and politely presented
- 2:29Speaker 2: themselves to Judge Dugan, who proceeded to give them the
- 2:33Speaker 2: total run around and do everything in her power to
- 2:36Speaker 2: allow the guy to evade arrest. She even tried to
- 2:42Speaker 2: get a fellow Milwaukee County Circuit judge who had wanted
- 2:46Speaker 2: no part of it, to be involved in the subterview
- 2:49Speaker 2: she sent the agents off to the chief judge's office
- 2:51Speaker 2: in the meantime stashed the guy in a separate office.
- 2:57Speaker 2: In the end, this is I've talked about trumpty arrangement syndrome,
- 3:01Speaker 2: and this is one of the best cases of it.
- 3:04Speaker 2: There was no upside for Hannah duget in doing this none.
- 3:10Speaker 2: First of all, what did she think. Let's imagine it
- 3:12Speaker 2: had worked and she stashed the guy in the office
- 3:15Speaker 2: and they couldn't find him, and she said, okay, he
- 3:17Speaker 2: didn't show up for court and scheduled another day. What
- 3:19Speaker 2: did you think to do? Ice is gonna give up?
- 3:25Speaker 2: But beyond that, they found him anyway, They found him.
- 3:31Speaker 2: So she did all this for nothing. Instead, she wrecked
- 3:37Speaker 2: her whole career as a judge and turned herself into
- 3:40Speaker 2: a felon and accomplished nothing in the process. You talk
- 3:47Speaker 2: about I always talk about people who don't think things through,
- 3:49Speaker 2: people who make emotional decisions. A lot of guys do
- 3:52Speaker 2: this with women. I put it from that perspective. I'm
- 3:55Speaker 2: sure it's probably even more the other way around. Do
- 4:00Speaker 2: women make more stupid decisions with guys or do guys
- 4:03Speaker 2: make more stupid decisions with women? Say I'm a guy,
- 4:06Speaker 2: So I think it's it seems like I know a
- 4:08Speaker 2: lot of but I know it from the perspective of
- 4:10Speaker 2: the guys. It's probably fifty to fifty. Right. You think
- 4:14Speaker 2: guys make more dumb decisions? You know I'm thinking though,
- 4:19Speaker 2: you know now I'm in two states, even Florida, I
- 4:23Speaker 2: do I see more cases of guys going out with
- 4:26Speaker 2: women that are no good for them or women going
- 4:28Speaker 2: out with guys that are no good for them close call.
- 4:35Speaker 2: Guys have a tendency to wreck their lives by philandering,
- 4:39Speaker 2: and I think women wreck their lives by actually hooking
- 4:42Speaker 2: up for the long term with the guy. Don't you
- 4:44Speaker 2: agree with that? You think it's changed Jason's discreat Should
- 4:50Speaker 2: I just get back to the point. My point is
- 4:53Speaker 2: is that you make a decision without thinking through any
- 4:55Speaker 2: of the ramifications. If Hannahdu's gonna take it a deep breath,
- 4:59Speaker 2: here's ice and thought for a moment. Should I cooperate
- 5:04Speaker 2: with an arrest warrant? As Dugan's colleague. The judge who
- 5:10Speaker 2: refused to go along with this subterfuge said it's not
- 5:13Speaker 2: the job of judges to allow defendants to escape apprehension.
- 5:20Speaker 2: If she sat back and thought about it for a moment.
- 5:22Speaker 2: As much as she didn't like the fact that here's isis,
- 5:24Speaker 2: and isis in her mind Trump running around in her courtroom,
- 5:29Speaker 2: the reality is they had every right to be there,
- 5:32Speaker 2: and any law enforcement agency has a right to try
- 5:35Speaker 2: to apprehend somebody who's wanted for any type of offense,
- 5:38Speaker 2: everything from murder to us you know, parking warrants. If
- 5:43Speaker 2: she would have thought that through, perhaps she would not
- 5:45Speaker 2: have done this. But she did it. She was charged.
- 5:51Speaker 2: The Trump administration Department of Justice made it clear that
- 5:55Speaker 2: they were going to stop putting up with this crap.
- 5:57Speaker 2: It's bad enough that we have individuals in defying the
- 6:01Speaker 2: laws of our country and defying the will of the electorate.
- 6:04Speaker 2: Of all the reasons people voted for Trump, I would
- 6:07Speaker 2: say the number one issue he hammered on was that
- 6:10Speaker 2: he was a going to enforce the border and be
- 6:12Speaker 2: gonna kick out the people who came in illegally. But
- 6:17Speaker 2: for a judged into it, and they just had enough,
- 6:20Speaker 2: and she was criminally charged. She pleaded not guilty. She
- 6:25Speaker 2: had no real defense to the I mean, she hired
- 6:28Speaker 2: this dream team of local lawyers that I hope she
- 6:32Speaker 2: didn't pay him a lot. She would have been better
- 6:36Speaker 2: off entering a plea deal. Noo. The reason she didn't,
- 6:42Speaker 2: but she had no defense. She obstructed the war. I
- 6:45Speaker 2: mean she sent him off in a while goose Chase
- 6:47Speaker 2: and stashed the guy and a thing. She did that.
- 6:54Speaker 2: So now she said he sentenced. I had made a
- 6:57Speaker 2: prediction in this case, and I always admit. I don't
- 7:00Speaker 2: always admit what I'm wrong, but I'm going to admit
- 7:02Speaker 2: when I'm wrong here, and I've admitted it several times already.
- 7:05Speaker 2: The judge in the case is one of the most
- 7:07Speaker 2: liberal federal judges in America. You can't even blame Obamba
- 7:09Speaker 2: or Biden for this. Lynn Aedelman was a member of
- 7:15Speaker 2: the state Senate like a trillion years ago, and Republicans
- 7:19Speaker 2: in Waukeshaw County and Governor Thompson wanted to get him
- 7:23Speaker 2: out of the state Senate because it was a Democrat.
- 7:25Speaker 2: It was a Republican district and this Democrat at him
- 7:28Speaker 2: and that is like the Haills corners of the Berlin
- 7:29Speaker 2: area he was representing, and they figured if they aim
- 7:32Speaker 2: him a federal judge, we can get a Republican elected
- 7:34Speaker 2: to the seat. What a stupid trade that was what
- 7:37Speaker 2: an unbelievable That's like these trades that the Brewery is
- 7:42Speaker 2: cut with Boston, where we get two starting pitchers and
- 7:47Speaker 2: they get two bad third basemen. So we got a
- 7:50Speaker 2: state Senate seat but lost a federal judge, which has
- 7:54Speaker 2: a lifetime appointment. Now I've called Lyn Aedelman looney Lynn
- 7:58Speaker 2: as long. I called him this before he was a judge,
- 8:02Speaker 2: when he was in the legislature, voting all lefty in
- 8:04Speaker 2: a conservative district, called him that. Then, first of all,
- 8:07Speaker 2: it has a literation, and I love alliteration. I just do.
- 8:10Speaker 2: Do you like a literation or do not care about that?
- 8:14Speaker 2: You don't know the love it? I love it. I'll
- 8:17Speaker 2: do I'll do a literation if it's stupid, just to
- 8:20Speaker 2: do it. Money Len and I made the prediction that
- 8:23Speaker 2: he was going to toss the charges because he's a
- 8:26Speaker 2: big activist lefty. To his credit, he didn't toss the
- 8:32Speaker 2: charges out. He let them go to trial, and then
- 8:35Speaker 2: he presided over the trial fairly. And then after Dugan
- 8:40Speaker 2: was convicted by the jury, he didn't overturn the verdict.
- 8:46Speaker 2: I thought he'd do every one of those things, every
- 8:48Speaker 2: step of the way, and he didn't do anything What
- 8:52Speaker 2: he did have the ability, though, to do, is hand
- 8:55Speaker 2: down on nothing sentence, which is what he did. He
- 8:58Speaker 2: gave her like the slightest sentence you could possibly give
- 9:00Speaker 2: for a felony five thousand dollars five no prison time,
- 9:05Speaker 2: I said earlier, probation, no probation. I'm not particularly troubled
- 9:17Speaker 2: by the sentence, and it's been criticized by a lot
- 9:19Speaker 2: of people on the right. Adelman said, Look, this is
- 9:23Speaker 2: somebody who made a spur of the moment mistake. She
- 9:25Speaker 2: is not likely to reoffend now that she's not a
- 9:29Speaker 2: judge anymore. I don't see her being one of these
- 9:31Speaker 2: people that's going to run around like the are on
- 9:33Speaker 2: Minnesota and try to drive cars into ice agents. She's
- 9:36Speaker 2: not likely to reoffend. She's a sixty seven year old woman.
- 9:39Speaker 2: She hadn't done anything criminal in her life. She's been
- 9:42Speaker 2: a lefty judge, but otherwise a model citizen in the community.
- 9:46Speaker 2: And the felony conviction means that she's lost everything. She's
- 9:52Speaker 2: not a judge anymore. I don't know that she's been disparted,
- 9:56Speaker 2: but I don't think you can be a lawyer in
- 9:58Speaker 2: Wisconsin with a felony conviction she shot. She made an
- 10:03Speaker 2: idiotic decision and made a national fool of herself and
- 10:06Speaker 2: suffers the consequence, and that anybody who ever googles her
- 10:10Speaker 2: for the rest of her life will know that this
- 10:11Speaker 2: is what she did. Aside from what you think about ice,
- 10:15Speaker 2: judges are supposed to follow the law, so I don't
- 10:20Speaker 2: think there's any point in sending her off to federal prison. However,
- 10:26Speaker 2: and this is Ryan Buck comes in. I think in
- 10:30Speaker 2: order for her to have gotten this sentence she needed
- 10:34Speaker 2: and I know that she didn't play guilty. This is
- 10:36Speaker 2: this term elocution. That's when you play guilty in a
- 10:39Speaker 2: plea barg and you gotta get up and admit you
- 10:40Speaker 2: did what you did. Now, she didn't play guilty. She
- 10:43Speaker 2: was found guilty. She did, however, address the court and
- 10:48Speaker 2: she was dancing. She was walking a tightrope here. She
- 10:52Speaker 2: had to show at least a level of remorse in
- 10:57Speaker 2: order to give Adam Uncover, to give her the nothing said.
- 11:01Speaker 2: But she's not still not admitting she did anything illegal.
- 11:04Speaker 2: She's appealing this a'll quote from John Deedrick's story and
- 11:09Speaker 2: JS online. By the way, there are many good reporters
- 11:12Speaker 2: left over there at the newspaper since dan bystide, there's
- 11:15Speaker 2: like two or three. Dedrick's one of the good ones.
- 11:19Speaker 2: I don't even know why I say these things. Why
- 11:21Speaker 2: do I praise a reporter at the journal? Do you
- 11:23Speaker 2: think anybody at the journal is ever going to praise me? Ever? Ever? Ever?
- 11:34Speaker 2: Quoting from Dedrick's story, the former judge said she was
- 11:40Speaker 2: trying to do the right thing of the day. Ice
- 11:41Speaker 2: officers were outside her courtroom. At that time. People were
- 11:44Speaker 2: afraid to come to court for fear of encountering immigration agents.
- 11:47Speaker 2: She said, Now let me pause right there. So what
- 11:53Speaker 2: I would think that if you're here illegally, you'd be
- 11:55Speaker 2: afraid to go anywhere for fear that immigration agents may
- 11:57Speaker 2: be there. And if an emigrant agent is able to
- 12:01Speaker 2: snatch up somebody when they're hanging around in a courtroom.
- 12:03Speaker 2: We voted for that prompt one, not kamala anyway. Next,
- 12:08Speaker 2: I have been cast as both a scofflaw and a hero.
- 12:11Speaker 2: I am neither. I am just a person who is
- 12:13Speaker 2: trying to do my job, Dugan said, at one time,
- 12:17Speaker 2: getting choked up as she spoke to Weightman. Dugen sixty seven,
- 12:20Speaker 2: did not apologize for her actions, but said she takes
- 12:23Speaker 2: the conviction seriously, adding that she came to court with
- 12:26Speaker 2: a heavy heart because of the case. Dugan said she
- 12:31Speaker 2: had to stop her practice of going to community events.
- 12:34Speaker 2: She hopes to return to that. I intend to contribute
- 12:36Speaker 2: to civic life and return to my focus on service,
- 12:39Speaker 2: Dugan said. I will not let those minutes on April
- 12:43Speaker 2: eighteenth define my life. One of Dugen's attorneys, one of
- 12:47Speaker 2: Jason Luzak, said after the consentency, she has lost so much.
- 12:53Speaker 2: The collateral consequences to her were great, and we appreciate
- 12:56Speaker 2: that the judge took that into consideration. What does the
- 13:03Speaker 2: government say in court? Executive Assistant US Attorney Richard Froling
- 13:08Speaker 2: agreed Dugan has led a life of service and received consequences,
- 13:11Speaker 2: but the veteran federal prosecutor noted that she and her
- 13:14Speaker 2: legal team have taken no responsibility for her actions. That's
- 13:17Speaker 2: my point. Given the fact that she's been given a
- 13:21Speaker 2: total walk on this, she could drop her appeal, but
- 13:24Speaker 2: she's still out there trying to clear her name, which
- 13:26Speaker 2: means she's not taking full accountability for what she did. Nonetheless,
- 13:36Speaker 2: while an appeals court made and if this is all
- 13:38Speaker 2: going to depend on what panel you get. The appeals
- 13:40Speaker 2: court district for our area is the one in Chicago.
- 13:43Speaker 2: There's some Republican appointed judges on there, some democratic point
- 13:46Speaker 2: of judges. It's just going to matter what panel do
- 13:48Speaker 2: you get. I doubt that this case would be taken
- 13:50Speaker 2: up by the US Supreme Court, So the appeals Court's
- 13:52Speaker 2: going to have the final say on it. I hope
- 13:55Speaker 2: they uphold the conviction, but I just I'm sorry, I
- 13:59Speaker 2: just think it's bloodless to say that we're going to
- 14:01Speaker 2: take this sixty seven year old woman who's never committed
- 14:04Speaker 2: a crime in her life and throw her in a
- 14:05Speaker 2: federal prison. I doubt that anybody on the left would
- 14:08Speaker 2: have the same mercy and say, me, who's never been
- 14:11Speaker 2: convicted of any kind of felony, if I did something
- 14:15Speaker 2: stupid to obstruct a cop or something like that, I'm
- 14:18Speaker 2: sure that they would a lot of lock me up
- 14:20Speaker 2: and throw me into the into a prison with some
- 14:22Speaker 2: gangbanger that's going to beat the hell out of me.
- 14:26Speaker 2: Let me move on to another story. Trump has changed
- 14:31Speaker 2: his tune on I ran. First of all, Trump can
- 14:37Speaker 2: change his tune on a given day. It's part of
- 14:40Speaker 2: his emo, and this flummox is people in the media
- 14:43Speaker 2: and flummoxes people who just I mean I sometimes I
- 14:47Speaker 2: think that they've never seen Donald Trump at all at
- 14:50Speaker 2: his public career. Of course, he talks out of both
- 14:53Speaker 2: sides of his mouth. That's been part of his strategy.
- 14:56Speaker 2: He tries to be unpredictable. It's one of his strengths
- 15:02Speaker 2: as a negotiator, and it's also one of the ways
- 15:04Speaker 2: that he is very, very good and dealing with political
- 15:09Speaker 2: and governmental and business situations. Nonetheless, this appears to be
- 15:13Speaker 2: a significant shift we have been hearing from Trump for weeks.
- 15:19Speaker 2: Ran wants to make a deal. Iran wants to make
- 15:21Speaker 2: a deal. Iran wants to make a deal. They really
- 15:23Speaker 2: want to make a deal. They really want to make
- 15:24Speaker 2: a deal. They really want to make a deal. These
- 15:26Speaker 2: are much better people in there now than used to be.
- 15:31Speaker 2: Trump yesterday declared the ceasefire over and abandoned all of
- 15:38Speaker 2: the rhetoric of the past. We're back to bombing again,
- 15:42Speaker 2: and he's calling out the Iranian leadership for what it is.
- 15:44Speaker 2: I'm going to read the quote. This is Trump. He
- 15:47Speaker 2: said this yesterday and on Kara Turkey, we hit them
- 15:50Speaker 2: very hard last night. That would have been then Tuesday night.
- 15:53Speaker 2: Probably hit them again tonight, which we did, which was
- 15:55Speaker 2: last night. If we need to, we will hit. We
- 15:58Speaker 2: will hit even more and even deeper. If we have to,
- 16:02Speaker 2: we will take out higher level targets. We may take
- 16:05Speaker 2: over carg Island. We may put it back the blockade,
- 16:09Speaker 2: and they'll only be a blockade for a rat. They'll
- 16:12Speaker 2: never build a nuclear weapon under our deal. But I
- 16:16Speaker 2: don't know if we're going to have a deal. We
- 16:18Speaker 2: may just have to do it without a deal, because
- 16:22Speaker 2: you know what, it's easier to me. I think it's over.
- 16:27Speaker 2: I don't want to deal with them. There's scum. They're
- 16:30Speaker 2: sick people. They're led by wicked people. They're vicious, violent people,
- 16:35Speaker 2: and if they had a nuclear weapon they would use it.
- 16:38Speaker 2: As far as I'm concerned, it's just the waste of time.
- 16:42Speaker 2: Something is wrong with them. They're cuckoo. As far as
- 16:46Speaker 2: I'm concerned, it's over. They can talk, but I think
- 16:49Speaker 2: it's just the waste of time. They lie, they cheat,
- 16:52Speaker 2: they're sick people that they hurt their own people. They
- 16:56Speaker 2: killed fifty four thousand of their own people. Frankly, I
- 16:59Speaker 2: don't want to waste my time with them or wonderful
- 17:02Speaker 2: negotiators can keep talking if they want. Well, that is
- 17:06Speaker 2: clearly a total flip from Trump. And as you know,
- 17:11Speaker 2: there's been a divide in the administration, and there's been
- 17:15Speaker 2: a divide in the conservative movement. Some have wanted this
- 17:20Speaker 2: Iran thing to be over, and they've wanted to try
- 17:23Speaker 2: to come to some agreement with Iran, even if it's
- 17:25Speaker 2: not much of a one, given that we've inflicted enough damage.
- 17:28Speaker 2: Others believe that Iran is just jerking us around, and
- 17:35Speaker 2: that we've left a whole lot of targets off the
- 17:38Speaker 2: table that we could have hit to inflict more damage,
- 17:42Speaker 2: and there's no point in trying to work with them
- 17:45Speaker 2: on a deal that the only thing that you can
- 17:47Speaker 2: do is inflict pain upon them so that they can't
- 17:50Speaker 2: harm others. It sure seems to me that Trump has
- 17:56Speaker 2: given up on the notion of negotiating with them and
- 17:59Speaker 2: has now taken the other side. However, if you've been
- 18:05Speaker 2: following Prump since he got elected in twenty sixteen, he
- 18:09Speaker 2: can flip this again tomorrow. There was an audience for
- 18:13Speaker 2: this speech. The audience was a rat. He's telling them, look,
- 18:20Speaker 2: I've been over backwards here. Iran has more vulnerabilities here
- 18:29Speaker 2: than we do. If we take out carg Island, their
- 18:32Speaker 2: economy is shot. There's a downside of that, price of
- 18:36Speaker 2: oil explodes. Carg Island is their dream, and it's right
- 18:43Speaker 2: adjacent to the Strait. We haven't hit it because obviously
- 18:49Speaker 2: it would create tremendous pressure on global oil prices. We
- 18:54Speaker 2: could hit it. There are apparently you know, we haven't
- 18:58Speaker 2: hit their government buildings. We haven't hit where the rulers are.
- 19:02Speaker 2: You know, we hit the initials, the initial Supreme Leader
- 19:05Speaker 2: come any but we haven't done further attacks that hit
- 19:11Speaker 2: them where they live and where they governed. We haven't
- 19:15Speaker 2: taken out their electric plans, their power plans. We could
- 19:19Speaker 2: really mess that country up. Now, there is a third
- 19:23Speaker 2: option out there that I've been advancing, which is that
- 19:27Speaker 2: we've done enough and that you simply end this without
- 19:32Speaker 2: a negotiation, hoping that Iran understands that we're giving them
- 19:37Speaker 2: a break here and they stop arming Hamas and Hesboala
- 19:42Speaker 2: and they allow the straight of horror moves to be
- 19:43Speaker 2: open in any event, That's what Trump said. Then Trump
- 19:50Speaker 2: a follow up here now on my point that it's
- 19:52Speaker 2: pretty clear that while we've hit them a lot. There
- 19:55Speaker 2: are vulnerabilities they have that we've so far taken hands
- 19:59Speaker 2: off on and villages. Is we're not attacking at the
- 20:02Speaker 2: highest level, the highest level of the bridges. They were
- 20:05Speaker 2: electric plans where they make their electricity. Now, let me
- 20:08Speaker 2: interject before you get back to Trompe. Hitting those things
- 20:12Speaker 2: cause is great pain for the people of Iran. It
- 20:16Speaker 2: may well be that you're not going to get the
- 20:18Speaker 2: people of Iran among them fifty four thousand already killed,
- 20:22Speaker 2: to go out there and try to create an actual revolution,
- 20:26Speaker 2: and people say, well, they don't have any guns. You
- 20:27Speaker 2: can do it without guns. They have a lot of
- 20:30Speaker 2: guns in Cuba. They had some when Chigevera and Castro
- 20:35Speaker 2: overthrew the Badista government. There weren't a lot of guns
- 20:38Speaker 2: in which these rebels overthrew the Shava ran back in
- 20:42Speaker 2: the nineteen seventies. You can overwhelm them and hope that
- 20:45Speaker 2: the military and the police, especially the local police who
- 20:49Speaker 2: live with these people, decide to side with the people
- 20:51Speaker 2: in the street. But you may not do that until
- 20:53Speaker 2: their lives are hell. We know what the Iradiant people
- 20:57Speaker 2: are afraid of. They went out of the streets last time,
- 20:59Speaker 2: and the Iranians killed them, all to the total silence
- 21:04Speaker 2: of American lefties who claim that they care about human
- 21:06Speaker 2: rights and genocides. Back to Trump, I don't want to
- 21:11Speaker 2: do that. This is referring to taking out the bridges
- 21:13Speaker 2: and electricity. I don't want to do that, but if
- 21:15Speaker 2: we have to, we'll take them out. We attacked carg
- 21:19Speaker 2: Island last night. We knocked out a piece. I said,
- 21:21Speaker 2: don't touch the oil, because maybe we'll take over carg Island.
- 21:25Speaker 2: We may take over carg Island. That's not a thing
- 21:28Speaker 2: that they There's not a thing they can do about it.
- 21:30Speaker 2: Normally I'm not that way, but they really deserve it.
- 21:32Speaker 2: Now he puts that out on the table. As I've
- 21:36Speaker 2: said repeatedly, to win a war with Iran means surrender.
- 21:41Speaker 2: And the only way you can get surrender is to
- 21:43Speaker 2: have a ground war in March all the way to Tehran.
- 21:46Speaker 2: There's no way I'm supporting that. But taking carg Island
- 21:51Speaker 2: does it require ready kind of a ground. It's right
- 21:53Speaker 2: there on the wyats, on the edge. The advantage of
- 21:59Speaker 2: Cargiland it's right where the shipping is. The disadvantage for
- 22:03Speaker 2: Irany is that means it's on the edge of the country.
- 22:06Speaker 2: You don't have to go more than one foot to
- 22:08Speaker 2: advan carg Island. We could take it over. We haven't
- 22:16Speaker 2: done that yet, Sir Trump's laying out now. Trump is
- 22:20Speaker 2: now moving away from this whole negotiation posture in memorandum
- 22:25Speaker 2: of understanding and instead talking tough and acting tough again.
- 22:33Speaker 2: Reporter and Turkey asked him about this. Reporter, last month,
- 22:38Speaker 2: you said Iranian leaders were very rational people, nice to
- 22:42Speaker 2: deal with, strong and smart. Today you say that there's scums,
- 22:46Speaker 2: sick people, and being led by sick people. What changed? Trump?
- 22:51Speaker 2: I got to know them all right, Let's deal with
- 22:58Speaker 2: what's going on here. Internally, the two most prominent people
- 23:07Speaker 2: in Trump's administration are clearly in disagreement over Iran. It's
- 23:12Speaker 2: no sacred JD. Vance did not support the war, and
- 23:16Speaker 2: it's no secret that JD. Vans has been the leader
- 23:19Speaker 2: of let's negotiate and find a deal to get out
- 23:23Speaker 2: of this. It is also no secret that Marco Rubio
- 23:27Speaker 2: supported the war and thinks that we're ending at prematurely
- 23:32Speaker 2: and thinks that negotiating with Iran gets you nowhere. There's
- 23:37Speaker 2: a comment here by Will Ricky of Fox News. He's
- 23:41Speaker 2: their managing editor for politics. This is rather lengthy, but
- 23:47Speaker 2: it's his analysis, and I think that it's accurate. My
- 23:50Speaker 2: read on the Vance Rubio split is aging pretty well.
- 23:54Speaker 2: And Trump just put Vance in a box. Hear me out.
- 23:58Speaker 2: Vance won the first raand argument, stop the war by time,
- 24:02Speaker 2: reopen hormus, give to Ran an economic off ramp, and
- 24:05Speaker 2: sell the whole thing as peace. Trump made him own it.
- 24:11Speaker 2: Now let me interject, Trump's smart. Trump's not going to
- 24:16Speaker 2: fall on his own sword. Who did he send to
- 24:18Speaker 2: negotiate this deal? JD. I've been commenting for those of
- 24:23Speaker 2: you who haven't been paying attention. Rubio has had no
- 24:25Speaker 2: part in this. Vance has been the one that's been saying,
- 24:29Speaker 2: we need to end this thing. We need to bring
- 24:31Speaker 2: the price of oil down. There's no point in continuing
- 24:34Speaker 2: this war. Let me go over there and to a deal.
- 24:37Speaker 2: So he set over Vance to do it. And everybody
- 24:39Speaker 2: knows that this memorandum of understanding is Vance's deal. And
- 24:44Speaker 2: this is what Wilbricky is saying, continuing. Trump made him
- 24:48Speaker 2: own it. That matters because the memorandum of understanding was
- 24:52Speaker 2: never just paperwork. It was Vance's worldview in diplomatic form.
- 24:57Speaker 2: Conflict as a trap, incentivize the and enough trade, investment
- 25:02Speaker 2: and legitimacy can pull a revolutionary terror regime toward normality.
- 25:07Speaker 2: Let me interject, I'm pretty much in agreement with Vance's worldview.
- 25:13Speaker 2: The problem is you may have a regime so extreme
- 25:16Speaker 2: that those things won't apply. I think that's Iran. I
- 25:21Speaker 2: think that was Venezuela under Chavez and Maduro. It's not Venezuelan. Now.
- 25:29Speaker 2: I think that you can take bad regimes and incentivize
- 25:34Speaker 2: them to behave well, I'm not sure that you could
- 25:38Speaker 2: do it with Iran. Continuing with wil Rickie's analysis, Rubio's
- 25:43Speaker 2: lane was always different pressure leverage terms. He defended Vance
- 25:48Speaker 2: publicly because that's what a disciplined cabinet secretary does, but
- 25:53Speaker 2: he never tied himself to the fantasy that Iran was
- 25:56Speaker 2: one investment package away from acting like a normal country.
- 26:00Speaker 2: Trump is saying the opposite out loud. Their scum, crazy,
- 26:03Speaker 2: layers and cheats. They've acted this way for forty seven years.
- 26:06Speaker 2: They have to be stopped. That's Rubio's argument in Trump's vocabulary.
- 26:11Speaker 2: So Vance is a problem. He can't keep selling the
- 26:14Speaker 2: Memorandum of Understanding his peace after Trump called it a
- 26:17Speaker 2: waste of time, so the escape hatch will be obvious.
- 26:21Speaker 2: Iran failed the test. America hit back and we went
- 26:24Speaker 2: either way. Fine, But that's not what he sold. He
- 26:29Speaker 2: sold an off rampant piece, but Iran used it to regroup.
- 26:32Speaker 2: Rubio doesn't have to spike the football. Trump is already
- 26:36Speaker 2: doing that for him. If policy follows the rhetoric, Rubrio's
- 26:39Speaker 2: lane gets handed the wheel. Pressure, leverage, and terms Iran
- 26:43Speaker 2: can't refuse. In other words, that Rubyo approach would be pressure.
- 26:50Speaker 2: Then hit them harder and they will be in a
- 26:52Speaker 2: weakened position and they will have to except terms. Now,
- 26:57Speaker 2: I would say the ultimate of that pressure would be
- 26:59Speaker 2: in a snatch carguy away from them. I have, as
- 27:04Speaker 2: you know, tremendous faith in Trump in this, and I've
- 27:08Speaker 2: always encouraged people in a negotiation and have not paid
- 27:11Speaker 2: so much attention in the middle as the outcome. There's
- 27:14Speaker 2: nobody on this planet who understands leverage and negotiations better
- 27:18Speaker 2: than him. He cuts some of the greatest bond deals
- 27:20Speaker 2: of all time. When some of the properties went bankrupt,
- 27:25Speaker 2: it was bond holders and not he that was left
- 27:27Speaker 2: holding the bag. That was structuring a deal very very
- 27:32Speaker 2: well from his perspective. He's cut trade deals that were
- 27:35Speaker 2: brilliant from the perspective of the United States. Trump still
- 27:40Speaker 2: has cards in his pocket now on this point that
- 27:43Speaker 2: Ricky is making that there's clearly a disagreement between Vans
- 27:47Speaker 2: and Rubio. That's fine. Every good president has people in
- 27:54Speaker 2: the administration that have different views on things. The problem
- 27:58Speaker 2: is is that sometimes people get it's so tied into
- 28:01Speaker 2: their position that they go ballistic and fight too hard
- 28:04Speaker 2: for their position. There's only one president. It's not Rubyo,
- 28:08Speaker 2: and it's not fans, It's Trump. If Rubio and Vance
- 28:13Speaker 2: publicly turned against one another over this one single issue
- 28:16Speaker 2: of Iran rather the entire rest of the world of
- 28:18Speaker 2: the administration, that would be unfortunate. And I hope that
- 28:23Speaker 2: JD is smart enough to take the long view on this.
- 28:27Speaker 2: He clearly has influenced Trump's thinking, and there are a
- 28:29Speaker 2: lot of people in the administration and a lot of
- 28:31Speaker 2: people close to the president, like Don Junior and so on,
- 28:33Speaker 2: who share this view. It was the Telsey Gabbard view,
- 28:37Speaker 2: It's the view of a lot of people who were
- 28:40Speaker 2: part of the Mega movement. But then there's the other
- 28:44Speaker 2: view that if you want Iran to stop doing something bad,
- 28:48Speaker 2: you've got to make a rand pay and get hurt
- 28:51Speaker 2: in order to get them to do what you want
- 28:54Speaker 2: to do. Another issue, I love this story. I love that.
- 29:01Speaker 2: I love all stories that drive liberals crazy. In fact,
- 29:07Speaker 2: if you simply if you want to be a successful
- 29:09Speaker 2: conservative talk show host, you can just start with this premise.
- 29:12Speaker 2: If every topic that you do drives a lefty crazy,
- 29:14Speaker 2: you've already way ahead of the game. This it's not
- 29:18Speaker 2: so much anymore. But I've been doing see Jason's been
- 29:21Speaker 2: a talk show host, but not always news and talk.
- 29:23Speaker 2: You've been kind of all over the map, and you
- 29:24Speaker 2: did sports, a lot, a lot of sports. When I
- 29:28Speaker 2: started in this, it was remarkable the number of people
- 29:32Speaker 2: who call themselves conservative talk show hosts who then like
- 29:35Speaker 2: grew grew. The term grew. That means that means you've
- 29:39Speaker 2: like expanded your world. They want to be popular among
- 29:42Speaker 2: the elitas. Thankfully, of all the personality flaws I have,
- 29:48Speaker 2: being a needy person is not one of them. I
- 29:51Speaker 2: don't give a crap if people like me. I give
- 29:54Speaker 2: a crap if a large audience likes me, But an individual,
- 29:57Speaker 2: I don't care if some politician doesn't like it. I
- 30:01Speaker 2: don't care if some community figure out. I don't care
- 30:05Speaker 2: if somebody that I encounter my own life doesn't like me,
- 30:07Speaker 2: I don't care. I'm going to do what I what
- 30:10Speaker 2: is true to myself and what I believe it. I
- 30:12Speaker 2: don't need somebody's acceptance, your approval. I think some of
- 30:16Speaker 2: the people who wandered the other way with regard to
- 30:18Speaker 2: that have always wanted to have that sanction and approval.
- 30:24Speaker 2: So therefore love stories that drive left he's crazy. Yesterday
- 30:32Speaker 2: became the day that the signs went up. We finally
- 30:36Speaker 2: have something named after Donald Trump. They've named the airport
- 30:40Speaker 2: in West Palm Beach President Donald J. Trump International Airport. No,
- 30:45Speaker 2: there's a lot of reasons which this is beautiful. Palm
- 30:48Speaker 2: Beach County used to be very liberal. That was one
- 30:52Speaker 2: of the counties of the Hanging Chads back in the
- 30:55Speaker 2: two thousand close presidential election in Florida, Bush versus Gore
- 31:00Speaker 2: rather liberal. The whole East coast of Florida used to
- 31:05Speaker 2: be really liberal. That has changed. The two holdouts have
- 31:08Speaker 2: been Broward County that's Fort Lauderdale and Palm Beach, which
- 31:12Speaker 2: of course is Palm Beach Miami Dade County is now
- 31:15Speaker 2: overwhelmingly Republican. But one of the reasons that Palm Beach
- 31:21Speaker 2: isn't so liberal anymore is because Trump's there. It in Marlaco,
- 31:25Speaker 2: I mean, Republicans are pouring in. It have been since
- 31:28Speaker 2: twenty seventeen, and I think in the last I the
- 31:38Speaker 2: last election, I think it was close to fifty to fifty,
- 31:41Speaker 2: there were only four counties in all of Florida that
- 31:44Speaker 2: went for Kamala Harris.
- 31:46Speaker 1: Four.
- 31:48Speaker 2: I think the one around Tampa, the one around Orlando,
- 31:52Speaker 2: Broward which is Fort Lauderdale, and one other it might
- 31:56Speaker 2: have been Palm Beach. With Palm Beach is close to
- 31:57Speaker 2: fifty to fifty. So Palm Beach International Airport is now
- 32:05Speaker 2: President Donald J. Trump International Airport. As I said, I
- 32:09Speaker 2: just I know this drives the lefties crazy. And I
- 32:11Speaker 2: know that all the lefties that are in Florida, which
- 32:13Speaker 2: is still you know, Florida's got what is it like,
- 32:16Speaker 2: thirty two million people right now, Well, it's becoming overwhelming
- 32:19Speaker 2: the Republican state. There's gonna be challenging this election because
- 32:21Speaker 2: I think there'll be challenges everywhere on the twenty In
- 32:23Speaker 2: the twenty sixth election. It's they're still lefty and I
- 32:27Speaker 2: just know when they drive past at it, when they
- 32:29Speaker 2: go to the airport, they're just gonna hate it. Get
- 32:31Speaker 2: a story about this. Way back when they renamed Washington
- 32:36Speaker 2: d C. International Airport after Ronald Reagan, I'm gonna think
- 32:40Speaker 2: that they didn't have a different name. No, Dullas is
- 32:43Speaker 2: the other It's Dulles and Reagan. Right, yeah, Washington National,
- 32:48Speaker 2: not International, Washington National. Back when they renamed it Reagan,
- 32:54Speaker 2: there were people who kept calling it Washington National, even
- 32:57Speaker 2: though Reagan's name.
- 32:58Speaker 1: No.
- 32:58Speaker 2: Most airports are named after or somebody, and it's usually
- 33:01Speaker 2: named after and by the way, since most of the
- 33:03Speaker 2: big cities are run by liberals, most of the airports
- 33:04Speaker 2: in the United States, for example, Atlanta's Hartfield Jackson in
- 33:09Speaker 2: International Airport and somebody who has to connect through that
- 33:12Speaker 2: for all the time. You know that because it's constantly
- 33:15Speaker 2: on the speaker, Welcome to Hartsfield Jackson. Jackson was Mayor Jackson.
- 33:19Speaker 2: He was a Democratic mayor of the city of Atlanta.
- 33:21Speaker 2: I don't know who Heartsfield is. I just assume he's
- 33:23Speaker 2: a Democrat. Maybe he's not. So most of the airports
- 33:26Speaker 2: that are named after somebody. The one in Orange County
- 33:29Speaker 2: is named after John Wayne. That's pretty cool. That was
- 33:32Speaker 2: when Orange County was still Republican. I don't think anyway.
- 33:37Speaker 2: For the lefties who want to bitch about this and
- 33:39Speaker 2: say you shouldn't be naming something after somebody after they're
- 33:42Speaker 2: already alive, I have an answer to that. Bill Clinton
- 33:46Speaker 2: they slap that. I mean, I don't even know if
- 33:48Speaker 2: he's sworn in. By the time they changed the name
- 33:50Speaker 2: of the airport in Little Rock to William Jefferson Clinton Airport,
- 33:53Speaker 2: it wasn't right when he was sworn in, but he
- 33:55Speaker 2: got that named after him very quickly. So whether they
- 34:02Speaker 2: should do it while he's still in an office or not,
- 34:05Speaker 2: I mean, I'm open to the argument that you shouldn't
- 34:07Speaker 2: name things after people until after their term in public
- 34:10Speaker 2: service is over. However, I make an exception just because
- 34:13Speaker 2: I know that this drive's left he's crazy, so therefore
- 34:15Speaker 2: I support it because I take great pleasure at anything
- 34:18Speaker 2: that drives lefties who are irrationally obsessed with Trump crazy.
- 34:23Speaker 2: I mean, I live in Milwaukee, damn near. Everything we've
- 34:25Speaker 2: named after anybody the last forty years is a Lefty.
- 34:28Speaker 2: Some of them they've been so indiscriminate with this, then
- 34:30Speaker 2: they're not having to take some of the names off.
- 34:32Speaker 2: We still haven't taken Seizar Chevez's name off. He's been
- 34:35Speaker 2: yanked off of just about everything all over the United States,
- 34:37Speaker 2: but they haven't taken his name off the street yet
- 34:39Speaker 2: in Milwaukee. I don't think. Maybe they did and others.
- 34:43Speaker 2: This story reported this week by the Associated Press. For
- 34:47Speaker 2: those of you who aren't aware because you're not on
- 34:50Speaker 2: one of the Obamacare exchanges, the premiums exploded this year.
- 34:57Speaker 2: I did several segments explaining all of that, and I'm
- 34:59Speaker 2: not to do it again here. It is now being
- 35:04Speaker 2: predicted that next year, and you get the premium set
- 35:07Speaker 2: the tail end of the year, they're going to explode again.
- 35:11Speaker 2: So the people that are getting their healthcare on the
- 35:13Speaker 2: Obamacare exchanges. Otherwise, by the way, I've noticed now that
- 35:17Speaker 2: Obamacare is an utter failure. They keep calling it the
- 35:20Speaker 2: Affordable Care Act, and they don't call it Obamacare anymore.
- 35:23Speaker 2: If like the Trump accountsies and start saving for your future,
- 35:28Speaker 2: for your children at the moments that they're born. If
- 35:30Speaker 2: somehow they turn out to like, not work or something,
- 35:34Speaker 2: the lefties will just insist on calling a trump because anyway,
- 35:39Speaker 2: the prices are going to go up every year between
- 35:42Speaker 2: now and the end of time, and they're going to
- 35:43Speaker 2: go up farther than regular insurance is going to go up.
- 35:46Speaker 2: Because Obamacare was never set up financially to work. All
- 35:51Speaker 2: of the criticisms that people like me made about it
- 35:53Speaker 2: in the beginning, that it's never going to add up,
- 35:58Speaker 2: that you're simply never going to be able to could
- 36:00Speaker 2: go of it off of the original premiums that they
- 36:04Speaker 2: that they had in place to provide essentially low cost
- 36:08Speaker 2: healthcare to everybody else, the numbers will not add up
- 36:15Speaker 2: to provide the level of care to all of the
- 36:17Speaker 2: people that are covered under Obamacare, the premiums had to
- 36:20Speaker 2: be higher. And unless you're simply going to say, and
- 36:22Speaker 2: this is what their answer is, the government's got to
- 36:24Speaker 2: subsidize it even more, meaning Obamacare is really nothing more
- 36:28Speaker 2: than Medicaid. Medicaid is healthcare for very low income people,
- 36:35Speaker 2: the Affordable Care Actor. Obamacare is healthcare for generally speaking,
- 36:40Speaker 2: working class people who are not kind of like middle
- 36:45Speaker 2: class to slightly below middle class and down but not
- 36:48Speaker 2: yet at the level of say welfare, which is Medicaid.
- 36:55Speaker 2: The filing so far indicate a fourteen percent increase. This
- 36:59Speaker 2: is going to happen again and again and again and again,
- 37:02Speaker 2: and it is not going to be until the left
- 37:04Speaker 2: acknowledges what Republicans have been saying, that Obamacare does not
- 37:08Speaker 2: work and we have to scrap it and come up
- 37:10Speaker 2: with something different, or you're going to keep gouging these
- 37:13Speaker 2: people to death. Everything Obama said about this turned out
- 37:17Speaker 2: to be alive. You can keep your own doctor. You
- 37:21Speaker 2: couldn't keep your own doctor if you went to a
- 37:23Speaker 2: plan in which your doctor was not in the network
- 37:26Speaker 2: in the exchange that you chose. Secondly, the doctors move
- 37:29Speaker 2: in and out of the exchanges. You can have to
- 37:30Speaker 2: switch doctors every single year. Your pharmacy benefits change. All
- 37:34Speaker 2: of this stuff has changed. The out of pocket costs
- 37:39Speaker 2: are extremely high unless you pay the really really high
- 37:43Speaker 2: premium Obamacare, and the costs which were artificially low balled
- 37:47Speaker 2: because of the subsidies that they put in place, have
- 37:50Speaker 2: now exploded because the numbers don't add up. One of
- 37:57Speaker 2: the terrible weaknesses of those of us on the right
- 37:59Speaker 2: is we are atrocious. That's saying I told you so.
- 38:02Speaker 2: And this one's a really tough one, because it's been
- 38:04Speaker 2: ten years in them act more than that, oh nine
- 38:08Speaker 2: seventeen years later, I told you so, And it's going
- 38:13Speaker 2: to keep getting worse. This problem is worse than the
- 38:17Speaker 2: problem with health insurance for those of us that are regular,
- 38:20Speaker 2: old working people that have it under a workplace plan.
- 38:23Speaker 2: It's worse than the problem for people in Medicaid, and
- 38:25Speaker 2: it's worse than for the people on Medicare. And Medicare
- 38:29Speaker 2: premiums have gone up. This is the black hole of
- 38:32Speaker 2: the healthcare system. It's a system that is simply funded improperly.
- 38:40Speaker 2: And the mandates that they put in place in which
- 38:42Speaker 2: they said they tried to force people to get health
- 38:45Speaker 2: care because the people who haven't been buying health insurance
- 38:47Speaker 2: are the ones who think, I'm not going to get sick,
- 38:49Speaker 2: why should I pay for it. They've never successfully been
- 38:53Speaker 2: able to force enough of those people in and make
- 38:56Speaker 2: them pay to cover all of the losses that come
- 38:59Speaker 2: from the women that are kids that are having babies
- 39:01Speaker 2: right and left, or people that are really sick, in
- 39:02Speaker 2: other words, people who need lots and lots and lots
- 39:04Speaker 2: of coverage. One other thing on here, all this anxiety
- 39:08Speaker 2: coverage and all these other conditions that people have that
- 39:10Speaker 2: really weren't as common fifteen twenty years ago, the old
- 39:13Speaker 2: driving up healthcare costs, and it's right in the circle
- 39:16Speaker 2: of the people who are eligible for Obamacare. You're listening
- 39:20Speaker 2: to the Mark Belling podcast. This is the Mark Belling podcast.
- 39:28Speaker 2: This is one of those stories that you knew was coming.
- 39:32Speaker 2: Paul Farrow, the Waalkeshraw County executive, he was diagnosed with
- 39:38Speaker 2: cancer I think maybe a couple of years ago, and
- 39:41Speaker 2: then it was announced that he had that I think
- 39:43Speaker 2: permission and his initial diagnosis I think when they initially
- 39:48Speaker 2: announced that it was stage four, which is bad. And
- 39:55Speaker 2: you certainly didn't want to eulogize Paul Farrow while still
- 39:58Speaker 2: alive inappropriate. I'm always torn on this. So you end
- 40:02Speaker 2: up talking and giving a tribute to somebody when they're
- 40:04Speaker 2: no longer here to hear it, but you don't want
- 40:07Speaker 2: to really do it before they're dead, when they're still
- 40:09Speaker 2: fighting for their life. It just am Paul Farrow is
- 40:13Speaker 2: a very good county executive. He and I clashed several times.
- 40:19Speaker 2: I wanted him to be more conservative. He felt where
- 40:24Speaker 2: he was was just fine. But the fact of the
- 40:27Speaker 2: matter is is that he, in terms of executive officials
- 40:29Speaker 2: in the state of Wisconsin, was one of the very
- 40:31Speaker 2: best in the state. I have always viewed my role
- 40:35Speaker 2: with Republicans as being the one that pushes them to
- 40:38Speaker 2: the right, because everything else pushes them to the left.
- 40:42Speaker 2: Everything you've seen this with regard to the state legislature,
- 40:45Speaker 2: everything pressure is always from the left. Who is there
- 40:49Speaker 2: to shove them from the right. So I've tried to
- 40:51Speaker 2: do that pride from the right, and that's one of
- 40:52Speaker 2: the things that I've tried to do with all officials
- 40:55Speaker 2: in Waukeshak County, the judges, the DA, the county executive,
- 40:57Speaker 2: the county board, and so on. Paul Faraoh is a
- 41:01Speaker 2: very strong administrator. He had the perfect skill set for
- 41:06Speaker 2: the job in that I can't see. He was a politician,
- 41:10Speaker 2: be boy. He came from a political family. His mother
- 41:14Speaker 2: was a legend. For those of you who are not
- 41:16Speaker 2: in the Milwaukee area, there are a few Conservatives in
- 41:19Speaker 2: Wisconsin in the last fifty years who were as important
- 41:22Speaker 2: as Margaret Farrell. She and Scott Walker, I think are
- 41:26Speaker 2: the two most important Republicans from southeastern Wisconsin. I would
- 41:31Speaker 2: say in seventy five years there are a few others
- 41:35Speaker 2: that are right there at least at the level of
- 41:37Speaker 2: state government. And you know, Paul is Margaret's daughter, so
- 41:44Speaker 2: he's a political land offals involved in political causes and
- 41:46Speaker 2: so on. The position of county executive has a unique
- 41:56Speaker 2: skill set because it's mostly managerial, but it is an
- 42:00Speaker 2: elective office and you have to deal with a legislative
- 42:04Speaker 2: body that is entirely elected. We have several very good
- 42:10Speaker 2: county executives in southeastn Wisconsin, the only county that has
- 42:15Speaker 2: a Democrat. They're elected nonpartisan, but we all know what
- 42:17Speaker 2: their political parties are. David Crowley, who just pulled out
- 42:20Speaker 2: of the race for governor of Wisconsin. Milwaukee County, is
- 42:22Speaker 2: the only Democrat county executive we have in the region,
- 42:26Speaker 2: the county executive and Reciving County. He hasn't declared his
- 42:29Speaker 2: political preference, but he's a conservative. Kenosha County, the county executive,
- 42:33Speaker 2: Samantha Kirkman, was a Republican member of the state legislature
- 42:39Speaker 2: Washington County. Josh Shavin, he's a Republican. In fact, Rick
- 42:44Speaker 2: for a while was running for the Republican nomination for governor,
- 42:46Speaker 2: and Paul Farrell obviously a Republican. These are some pretty
- 42:50Speaker 2: strong people. He was one of these guys that just
- 42:55Speaker 2: ruled up his sleeve and was part of the community.
- 42:57Speaker 2: And I just think that, you know, walk Ashore was
- 43:00Speaker 2: one of those. There's a lot of places like this,
- 43:02Speaker 2: including Milwaukee, Vercining, Kenosha, when the name of the county
- 43:05Speaker 2: is the same as the name of the city, and
- 43:07Speaker 2: people who aren't from the region when they hear Waukeshaw
- 43:09Speaker 2: might be thinking of just the city of Waukeshaw. Wealcans. God,
- 43:12Speaker 2: he's huge and goes on forever, and he kind of
- 43:16Speaker 2: embraced all of that county. And as they say he'll leave,
- 43:23Speaker 2: I mean the last name Farrell. Is there a bigger
- 43:27Speaker 2: Republican name in Waukeshaw County? Ever, it sounds ghoulish, But
- 43:37Speaker 2: focusing on his replacement has to begin immediately because of
- 43:41Speaker 2: the law that they have in Waukeshaw County. Waukashaw County
- 43:44Speaker 2: requires the appointment of a new county executive by the
- 43:48Speaker 2: County Board in thirty days. They have an acting county executive,
- 43:52Speaker 2: which is the county Board chairman. So if some decision
- 43:54Speaker 2: had to be made, say this afternoon, Jim Heiri because
- 43:57Speaker 2: the County Board chairman, he is the person who has
- 43:59Speaker 2: the position until the County Board can name somebody, and
- 44:03Speaker 2: they name somebody until an election is held. So there's
- 44:06Speaker 2: three phases. Automatically acting which is now the County Board
- 44:10Speaker 2: chair and then within thirty days the County Board names
- 44:13Speaker 2: it interim who will serve. I'd say it'd be about
- 44:16Speaker 2: six months before they can have an election. You need
- 44:19Speaker 2: to have a filing period, then a primary if there's
- 44:22Speaker 2: more than two candidates, which there will be, and then
- 44:24Speaker 2: a general election. I have some thoughts on this issue
- 44:33Speaker 2: without getting into any names specifically, I believe the County
- 44:38Speaker 2: Board will make a grave mistake if they choose a
- 44:41Speaker 2: bureaucrat unless that bureaucrat makes a vow when given the
- 44:46Speaker 2: position to not run for a full term in the office.
- 44:50Speaker 2: Let me explain why people who are government lifers in
- 44:55Speaker 2: terms of their employment, their perspective is always they see
- 44:59Speaker 2: it as us against them, and US is the government.
- 45:02Speaker 2: They are always going to be people who want to
- 45:04Speaker 2: spend more money and fund more programs because their whole
- 45:07Speaker 2: life has been in those programs. Paul Farrell came from
- 45:12Speaker 2: outside of Waukashaw County government, using the example of the
- 45:16Speaker 2: Racine County executive, his name slipping away from me. He's
- 45:19Speaker 2: a retail store owner. And before that you had Jonathan Delagrave,
- 45:25Speaker 2: Samantha Kirkman, and Kenosha County was a member of the
- 45:27Speaker 2: state legislature. These were not people who were employed within
- 45:30Speaker 2: the bureaucracies of the counties that they were in and
- 45:32Speaker 2: therefore come in with fresh eyes and are able to
- 45:35Speaker 2: run these run these agencies fiscally conservative. Waukashaw County always
- 45:40Speaker 2: has a tough budget because they're screwed on state aid
- 45:42Speaker 2: from the State of Wisconsin. State aid is premised on
- 45:45Speaker 2: a lot of things we have. If the school aid
- 45:47Speaker 2: formula is complicated, it's so is the municipal aid formula.
- 45:51Speaker 2: Waukashaw County does benefit from the fact that it has
- 45:54Speaker 2: a very big commercial and industrial tax base, but it
- 45:58Speaker 2: also has a huge residential base. So and Paul Pharaoh's
- 46:05Speaker 2: thing was always to raise taxes just a teeny bit
- 46:11Speaker 2: every year the property tax levy went up, and I'm
- 46:13Speaker 2: saying a little bit. It was like it was like
- 46:14Speaker 2: one percent every year. And this is what I get
- 46:16Speaker 2: out of Paul. If you can do this good, you
- 46:18Speaker 2: could freeze them. Whereas I acknowledge nobody else was doing
- 46:23Speaker 2: only one percent of the state of Wisconsin, which was
- 46:26Speaker 2: very good. If you choose a bureaucrat, they're gonna be
- 46:31Speaker 2: The first thing that they're going to be doing is
- 46:32Speaker 2: talking about Waukershaw County is still one of I think
- 46:35Speaker 2: there's only two counties in the state left without a
- 46:37Speaker 2: sales tax. They're one of them. They need to choose
- 46:41Speaker 2: somebody who is more directly accountable to the people that
- 46:43Speaker 2: I think comes from outside the internal bureaucracy of Waukeshaw County. Now,
- 46:51Speaker 2: as they say, if they want to name a bureaucrat
- 46:54Speaker 2: as a temporary administer traitor as the interim, with that
- 46:57Speaker 2: person vowing not to run for a full term, I
- 47:00Speaker 2: guess I could live with that. There are going to
- 47:04Speaker 2: be a lot of names that are mentioned here. I'm
- 47:05Speaker 2: just going to float a few. The first one's a problem.
- 47:09Speaker 2: I think by far the most qualified person for this
- 47:11Speaker 2: job is former Lieutenant Governor Rebecca Clayfish. She was lieutenant
- 47:16Speaker 2: governor of the state of Wisconsin for eight years, but
- 47:17Speaker 2: she is not a political lifer. Those eight years were
- 47:21Speaker 2: her only eight years in government. She was a news reporter.
- 47:26Speaker 2: She's been an activist conservative in other areas. She's got
- 47:30Speaker 2: administrative abilities. She's smart as can be. Problem is, she
- 47:35Speaker 2: no longer lives in Waukeshaw County. She and her family
- 47:38Speaker 2: moved to Jefferson County across the county line, very close
- 47:42Speaker 2: to the county line. I mean, she'd have to move
- 47:45Speaker 2: back in, and maybe they'd do that, but without a
- 47:50Speaker 2: certainty that she'd have the job. And winning in an
- 47:52Speaker 2: election and picking up your family and movement is a
- 47:54Speaker 2: drastic thing. She ran for governor obviously now four years
- 47:59Speaker 2: ago and almost won the Republican nomination. She's eminently qualified.
- 48:04Speaker 2: Another name that on the throat as the state's Senate
- 48:05Speaker 2: President Chris Kapigan. Chris has not been on the same
- 48:09Speaker 2: page with the Senate Republican leadership for some time. The
- 48:12Speaker 2: Republicans may lose control of the Senate, meaning they're going
- 48:14Speaker 2: to be in the minority after the November election. He
- 48:18Speaker 2: is a very conservative guy. He's not part of the
- 48:23Speaker 2: Republican Madison power structure. Another obvious name would be Jim Heinrich,
- 48:29Speaker 2: who is the longtime chairman of the County Board. He's
- 48:32Speaker 2: been on the county board forever and he's the county
- 48:34Speaker 2: Board chair. So right now he's the acting county executive.
- 48:38Speaker 2: They may make him the interim county executive. I've got
- 48:41Speaker 2: some problems with the county board naming their own chairman
- 48:45Speaker 2: to be the interim executive, especially if he intends to run.
- 48:51Speaker 2: I honestly can't say. I mean, the Wakeshaw County Board
- 48:55Speaker 2: is first of all, it's too large, and it tends
- 48:58Speaker 2: to be anonymous. There tend not to be a lot
- 49:01Speaker 2: of issues in which they're arguing about things in which
- 49:04Speaker 2: you have divided, say twenty to eighteen type votes. So
- 49:07Speaker 2: even the Heinrich's been around for the longest time, I
- 49:09Speaker 2: can't speak with any certainty one way or another and
- 49:13Speaker 2: being fair to him as to whether or not he
- 49:15Speaker 2: to me is conservative or not for the job or not.
- 49:18Speaker 2: But if he does choose to seek it, we're gonna
- 49:20Speaker 2: have to flesh him out on this. There are obviously
- 49:22Speaker 2: many others there. You know, Walkershaw County is a county
- 49:26Speaker 2: that's about right now i'd say sixty to forty Republican.
- 49:29Speaker 2: The one thing you can't do is allow this county
- 49:32Speaker 2: to be taken over by the liberals on a county
- 49:34Speaker 2: web position, it would be a disaster, a nightmare. There
- 49:39Speaker 2: are some counties that don't have county executives. Walworth does
- 49:42Speaker 2: not have a county executive. Ozaki does not have a
- 49:44Speaker 2: county executive. There, they just have the county boards. There
- 49:47Speaker 2: is no executive, and then they have an administrator running
- 49:50Speaker 2: the agencies. The majority of the counties now have elected
- 49:53Speaker 2: county executives. Kenosha County, we'reciving County. The two in the
- 49:56Speaker 2: corner both have conservative county executives. Milwaukee County obviously, says Crowley.
- 50:01Speaker 2: Then going to the other side, Washington County as a conservative,
- 50:04Speaker 2: and Waukeshaw County had a conservative with Paul. We cannot
- 50:08Speaker 2: backslide and lose that position. And again for people who
- 50:11Speaker 2: say you're talking about it too soon, I'll be honest here.
- 50:14Speaker 2: I mean, everybody who was in the know knew that
- 50:17Speaker 2: Paul was in bad shape. But it was a matter
- 50:19Speaker 2: of time. So while this is sad, it is not
- 50:22Speaker 2: a surprise. But also this window by the county law,
- 50:25Speaker 2: a county ordinance that says you have to name somebody
- 50:27Speaker 2: within thirty days requires that this be discussed next story
- 50:34Speaker 2: We've been following. In fact, I've been following this story
- 50:38Speaker 2: of the Arrowhead school board which barred a student. They
- 50:43Speaker 2: had a slide show where graduates at the recent graduation
- 50:46Speaker 2: and Arrowhead did a slide show in which they could
- 50:48Speaker 2: put up a little statement about themselves, and one of
- 50:52Speaker 2: the students quoted a Bible verse. The school district said,
- 51:02Speaker 2: you can't do that. She took it down and didn't
- 51:06Speaker 2: post that, but then complained to the school board afterwards.
- 51:11Speaker 2: The school district and the school board, which purports to
- 51:14Speaker 2: be a conservative school board, has stood behind the principle,
- 51:17Speaker 2: and the principles said, I've got the law on my
- 51:19Speaker 2: side on this, and I've argued, well, while you might
- 51:21Speaker 2: have the law on your side, and I don't think
- 51:23Speaker 2: you do, it's going to be tested. It doesn't mean
- 51:27Speaker 2: you have to exercise that power under the law. There's
- 51:29Speaker 2: nothing that required you to not let the student make
- 51:32Speaker 2: this quote. And if you can't tolerate a student deciding
- 51:36Speaker 2: to make the summary of her statement about what's important
- 51:38Speaker 2: to her she graduates from high school, allowing her to
- 51:41Speaker 2: to focus on God the most important part of her life,
- 51:43Speaker 2: then don't let anybody say anything if you're going to
- 51:45Speaker 2: be that obnoxiously censorious. The Wisconsin Institute of Law and
- 51:52Speaker 2: Liberty has sent a letter to the school district this
- 51:55Speaker 2: is all old news and bring you up to speed
- 51:56Speaker 2: with the background, telling him you broke the law. Students
- 52:01Speaker 2: have a First Amendment right to speak about their religion.
- 52:04Speaker 2: You can't silence her. The school district is saying this
- 52:08Speaker 2: isn't student speech, it was school district speech because it's
- 52:11Speaker 2: on our slide show and the graduation. I think that's
- 52:14Speaker 2: a reach of an argument because it may be a
- 52:17Speaker 2: side show that they put up, but it's her statement.
- 52:20Speaker 2: We do know the courts have made it clear you
- 52:23Speaker 2: can't censor a student's commencement address. Well, that commencement address
- 52:27Speaker 2: is using the microphone of the school district, that it's
- 52:30Speaker 2: in the school district auditorium. What's the difference If Arrowhead
- 52:33Speaker 2: presses this, they're going to lose. Rather than acknowledge they
- 52:37Speaker 2: made a mistake and the principal, the administrator came up
- 52:39Speaker 2: with a policy that is first of all, obnoxious and
- 52:44Speaker 2: second they probably illegal. Will has asked that they apologize
- 52:49Speaker 2: to the student and acknowledge they're never going to pull
- 52:51Speaker 2: this crap again. The school board has scheduled a closed
- 52:55Speaker 2: session meeting. I believe it's tomorrow. I'm doing this podcast
- 52:59Speaker 2: on Thursday to discuss legal matters. Well, that's probably this.
- 53:04Speaker 2: If they don't back down, Will is going to take
- 53:07Speaker 2: them to court. They're gonna have to expend taxpayer funds
- 53:09Speaker 2: and they're gonna lose, and they're gonna make more of
- 53:11Speaker 2: a national ass of themselves. Acknowledge you did the wrong thing.
- 53:16Speaker 2: Acknowledge that when you listen to your administrator Farner, you
- 53:18Speaker 2: were listening to somebody didn't know what he's talking about.
- 53:20Speaker 2: And most of all, stop asking the lefty lawyers for
- 53:24Speaker 2: the Wisconsin Association of school Board for legal advice. It's like,
- 53:32Speaker 2: you know, trying to send oj to prison with Marcia
- 53:34Speaker 2: Clark as the prosecutor, going against Johnny Cockrate and f
- 53:38Speaker 2: Lee Bailey and Dershowitz and who was the other one
- 53:41Speaker 2: a Shapiro, And then they had the others that were like,
- 53:44Speaker 2: have you the DNA guy that s neck for a
- 53:47Speaker 2: while Kardashian with like the first Kardashian, the one who
- 53:51Speaker 2: I mean, I know why Bobby Kardashian died. He died
- 53:54Speaker 2: because of what was all surrounding him. I mean, everything
- 53:57Speaker 2: those women have touched has turned to crap. The only
- 54:00Speaker 2: thing that's thrived is them. They've all become billionaires. I
- 54:03Speaker 2: mean they turned poor Bruce Jenner into a woman. Well
- 54:07Speaker 2: they did. How did they get there from here?
- 54:12Speaker 1: All?
- 54:12Speaker 2: Right? Next doory Tony Evers to the two worst Waukshaw
- 54:18Speaker 2: County judges, are both retiring, and they time their retirement
- 54:24Speaker 2: to occur in the middle of the year, meaning that
- 54:27Speaker 2: the governor names their replacements. So you're going to have
- 54:29Speaker 2: two Evers appointed judges in Waukeshaw County. I could say
- 54:33Speaker 2: that this makes the bench worse, but the two most
- 54:35Speaker 2: lenient judges in the county were Bill Domina and Ralphie Ramirez,
- 54:38Speaker 2: and there the two that are leaving. Evers has named
- 54:40Speaker 2: their replacements. The good news is there are already Conservative
- 54:45Speaker 2: candidates who are announcing that they're going to run against them.
- 54:48Speaker 2: The election will be next spring, April general election of
- 54:53Speaker 2: next spring. I can't say that I know anything about
- 54:57Speaker 2: these two guys. I'll admit I've never heard of either.
- 55:00Speaker 2: Michael Shindhelm and Jeremy Guza. Gooz is described as a
- 55:05Speaker 2: criminal defense attorney and again maybe I just haven't or
- 55:08Speaker 2: I can't think of a single case that I recall
- 55:10Speaker 2: that he's been involved in. And I'm about the other guys, Shindhilm,
- 55:13Speaker 2: other than they list their bios in here and so on.
- 55:16Speaker 2: I'm just telling you this, if Tony Evers appoints you
- 55:18Speaker 2: as a judge, first of all, Evers isn't doing any appointing.
- 55:21Speaker 2: This is his lefty staff that are going through going
- 55:24Speaker 2: to these candidates. If Evers appoints you as a judge,
- 55:27Speaker 2: you're going to be a lefty judge because why first
- 55:29Speaker 2: of all, why would Tony Evers put a hard slam
- 55:31Speaker 2: and conservative on the bench. That's not what his people are.
- 55:35Speaker 2: The good news is we have two opponents already set
- 55:38Speaker 2: to run against the two of them. There are two branches,
- 55:42Speaker 2: Branch three and Branch five. I believe the Gooz is
- 55:47Speaker 2: Branch three and Shindhilm is Branch five. And as I said,
- 55:52Speaker 2: there are two conservative candidates. Got my notes here? Yeah.
- 55:58Speaker 2: The candidate that will run against who is Paul de Dinski.
- 56:09Speaker 2: He's a longtime prosecutor. He was a former Milwaukee County
- 56:12Speaker 2: Circuit judge. He was in Milwaukee County circuit judge Scott
- 56:15Speaker 2: Walker put on the bench and the lefties in Milwaukee
- 56:17Speaker 2: County threw him off. So now he's seeking to be
- 56:20Speaker 2: a judge and a much more conservative county that appreciates
- 56:22Speaker 2: a law and oder judge. And I had the other
- 56:28Speaker 2: one here, and I'm not sure that there's a third
- 56:31Speaker 2: branch out there. There's Branch eleven. Catherine Spitz, who works
- 56:37Speaker 2: for Will, is running for that position. So I'm not
- 56:40Speaker 2: sure who's running for each and every one of these branches,
- 56:42Speaker 2: but that will sort out. They could also decide to
- 56:44Speaker 2: change which one that they're running for based on the
- 56:47Speaker 2: strength or opposition of the individual candidate they're seeking to replace.
- 56:52Speaker 2: There's going to be time to be able to address this.
- 56:55Speaker 2: We had the terrible situation in Washington County where every
- 56:58Speaker 2: single one of their judges was appointed by a Democrat governor.
- 57:01Speaker 2: They finally got rid of one of them in the
- 57:03Speaker 2: most recent election and they have a better judge on there.
- 57:05Speaker 2: They had a Democrat appointed district attorney in the county forever.
- 57:08Speaker 2: They now have a Republican district attorney there. So Washington
- 57:11Speaker 2: County is trying to correct that. So it will be
- 57:14Speaker 2: incumbent upon as we've got another election this fall to
- 57:16Speaker 2: deal with first, but this coming spring we're going to
- 57:19Speaker 2: address that. In the meantime, these Everrs Judges will be
- 57:22Speaker 2: on the bench. Now, you'd think that if they wanted
- 57:27Speaker 2: to win a full term they would at least pretend
- 57:30Speaker 2: to be conservative while on the bench and sentence tough
- 57:32Speaker 2: and so on in the few months that they have
- 57:34Speaker 2: in there. It just often they just can't bring themselves
- 57:40Speaker 2: to do it, all right. The big political story, David Crawley,
- 57:44Speaker 2: the Milwaukee County executive, is out of the governor's race.
- 57:46Speaker 2: I've been writing my newspaper column on this subject and
- 57:49Speaker 2: done several topics here. The Democrat boss is no, they
- 57:54Speaker 2: have to get some of the candidates to drop out
- 57:56Speaker 2: of the race before the election, because the alternative is
- 58:00Speaker 2: to allow the two they don't want to win to win.
- 58:04Speaker 2: Francesca Hang as a Marxist, she's the front runner. You
- 58:08Speaker 2: have Mendela Barnes, who's probably not a Marxist, but he's
- 58:11Speaker 2: very liberal. But he's also stupid, as he's demonstrated again
- 58:17Speaker 2: and again and again, and has an incredible amount of baggage.
- 58:21Speaker 2: They can be exploited in a general election and You know,
- 58:24Speaker 2: the Democrat bosses know this, but they haven't figured out
- 58:27Speaker 2: how to attack Francesca Hang without hacking off her elective followers.
- 58:31Speaker 2: Democrats will not have an ideological fight for the soul
- 58:34Speaker 2: of the party, as I talked about in yesterday's podcast.
- 58:37Speaker 2: So what they need to do is annoying someone, and
- 58:41Speaker 2: they're annoying Sarah Rodriguez. Sarah Rodriguez is the lieutenant governor.
- 58:46Speaker 2: If Evers endorsed her, that would probably put her over
- 58:49Speaker 2: the top, because it would be a signal from the
- 58:51Speaker 2: regular mainstream Democrats. She's the one. The problem there is
- 58:54Speaker 2: there may not be two people in the state of
- 58:56Speaker 2: Wisconsin who despise one another more than Governor Tony Evers
- 58:59Speaker 2: and Lieutenant Governor Sarah Rodriguez. I have never found out
- 59:02Speaker 2: what was at the root of that. But Rodriguez just
- 59:08Speaker 2: does not get along with Maggie gow Ebers's chief of staff,
- 59:13Speaker 2: and therefore by Evers, who does whatever Maggie tells him
- 59:15Speaker 2: to do, and Evers is just he distances himself from
- 59:20Speaker 2: Sarah consistently. On the other hand, I don't think that
- 59:23Speaker 2: wing of the party wants Francesco Haung to be their
- 59:25Speaker 2: candidate because Tom Tiffany could beat her. So Crowley's dropping
- 59:29Speaker 2: out of the race and endorsing Rodriguez. We've already had
- 59:34Speaker 2: Missy Hughes drop out of the race and endorse Sarah Rodriguez. This, however,
- 59:39Speaker 2: may not do everything that the establishment Democrats wanted to do.
- 59:45Speaker 2: There were two African American Milwaukee candidates in the race,
- 59:49Speaker 2: Crowley and Mendelo Barnes. It may be that much of
- 59:52Speaker 2: Crowley's would be support now goes to Barnes rather than Rodriguez,
- 59:57Speaker 2: even though he's endorsing Rodriguez. All the Democrats, including Prowley,
- 1:00:03Speaker 2: know that Mandela Barnes is an empty suit and a goofball.
- 1:00:07Speaker 2: He lost to Ron Johnson in a year in which
- 1:00:09Speaker 2: Democrats were winning every damn thing there was to win,
- 1:00:12Speaker 2: and they fear that Tom Tiffany could beat him. In
- 1:00:16Speaker 2: terms of Francesca Hong, some of these Democrats, they'll never
- 1:00:19Speaker 2: say it, they don't want to be led by a Marxist.
- 1:00:22Speaker 2: But secondly they fear again that she's so radical that
- 1:00:25Speaker 2: Tiffany could beat her. Sarah Rodriguez is very liberal, but
- 1:00:29Speaker 2: it's hard to put her all the way over into
- 1:00:31Speaker 2: the Marxist category. So she's the one of the rest
- 1:00:33Speaker 2: of them. There seems to be this rallying around I
- 1:00:36Speaker 2: predict the next one to drop out. In fact, has
- 1:00:39Speaker 2: Joel Rennan already dropped out of the race? You know?
- 1:00:43Speaker 2: I mean it's I mean, I'm doing this podcast on
- 1:00:46Speaker 2: Thursday afternoon. If you listen to this by Thursday night,
- 1:00:48Speaker 2: he could be out. But I mean Joel Brennan. There
- 1:00:51Speaker 2: was some thought that he was going to have a
- 1:00:52Speaker 2: ton of money because he's got a brother in law
- 1:00:54Speaker 2: who's a zillionaire. But that money has not emerged. So
- 1:00:57Speaker 2: I suspect Brennan will drop out and he will endorse
- 1:01:00Speaker 2: Rodriguez as well. In the meantime, there's been a big
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: Sarah Rodriguez ad by that's now hitting the airwaves. That's
- 1:01:09Speaker 2: a signal from the to the donors, the people who
- 1:01:12Speaker 2: write out the checks for these Democratic candidates. They're all
- 1:01:15Speaker 2: telling him, Look, we're gonna shove Carl out. We're gonna
- 1:01:18Speaker 2: shove We're gonna shove Brennan out. We already shoved Hughes out.
- 1:01:21Speaker 2: We want you to put the money into Rodriguez. Now
- 1:01:23Speaker 2: we have to stop the two we don't want. We
- 1:01:25Speaker 2: have to stop Francesca Hang and Mendela Barns this story.
- 1:01:44Speaker 2: We have a story that has made national news from
- 1:01:47Speaker 2: Wisconsin that the Wisconsin media will not touch now. On
- 1:01:53Speaker 2: this story, I did a Google search this morning and
- 1:01:57Speaker 2: I went through fourteen pages, and I didn't see a
- 1:02:00Speaker 2: single story on this from one of the Wisconsin mainstream
- 1:02:03Speaker 2: media outlets. But it's been covered by a zillion sources,
- 1:02:07Speaker 2: many national, including the New York Post. There's a obviously,
- 1:02:11Speaker 2: there's a crushia race everywhere in the United States. The
- 1:02:15Speaker 2: northeastern Wisconsant Congressional district seemingly safely Republican. Tony Weed's the
- 1:02:21Speaker 2: incumbent Republican congressman. There are three Democrats running the next
- 1:02:25Speaker 2: month's primary for the right to run against Weed. One
- 1:02:29Speaker 2: of the campaign volunteers for one of the three candidates.
- 1:02:32Speaker 2: She is the avowed Marxist. There's a Democrat socialist running
- 1:02:36Speaker 2: in that primary, and I've not heard. I just haven't
- 1:02:39Speaker 2: been following. I don't know who the front runner in
- 1:02:41Speaker 2: that one he is. But we've seen these Democrats socialists,
- 1:02:44Speaker 2: they're winning everywhere. One of her campaign volunteers has made
- 1:02:49Speaker 2: numerous posts, including a viral one on social media in
- 1:02:52Speaker 2: which she has called for the killing of Republicans, killing
- 1:02:55Speaker 2: of Republicans. I want you to imagine if a campaign
- 1:03:03Speaker 2: worker for Tom Tiffany posted we need to kill Democrats.
- 1:03:06Speaker 2: You never heard the end of it. Yet the story
- 1:03:09Speaker 2: is it being reported. The person who has made the
- 1:03:13Speaker 2: post is trans It's a biological male who says that
- 1:03:18Speaker 2: he is a she Tia Dela Rouel. We're going to
- 1:03:26Speaker 2: make this the moderate position for the state of Wisconsin,
- 1:03:30Speaker 2: pointing to her sick message saying kill your local Republican.
- 1:03:35Speaker 2: She's been a campaign aide to one of the Democrats
- 1:03:40Speaker 2: who's running for Congress in northeastern Wisconsin. Her name is
- 1:03:43Speaker 2: Katrina Deville. Katrina Deville has this avowed the statement and
- 1:03:48Speaker 2: said I don't have her working for my campaign anymore. Okay, fine,
- 1:03:54Speaker 2: this was not the word shoot. This is the word kill, kill. Kill.
- 1:03:58Speaker 2: We know what's happened to people on my side on
- 1:04:00Speaker 2: the right, including somebody at my old radio station, who
- 1:04:04Speaker 2: make comments along those lines. You get hammered for it,
- 1:04:09Speaker 2: and the coverage is incessant. But you can run for
- 1:04:13Speaker 2: Congress as a Democrat and have somebody on your congressional
- 1:04:16Speaker 2: staff openly calling for killing Republicans this story. The Gannett
- 1:04:20Speaker 2: papers are pretty much all the papers in northeastern Wisconsin.
- 1:04:23Speaker 2: They own js Online, the Journal Sentinel, but they have
- 1:04:26Speaker 2: the paper in Appleton, they have the paper in Green Bay.
- 1:04:32Speaker 2: I believe, I'm not sure of all of them. I
- 1:04:34Speaker 2: believe they have Man at a Walk, not sure an Oshkosh,
- 1:04:38Speaker 2: but they are the media up there. They have not
- 1:04:41Speaker 2: touched this story, nor have any of the Green Bay
- 1:04:43Speaker 2: television stations. At least I couldn't find anything in a
- 1:04:45Speaker 2: Google search from any of them on this. This is
- 1:04:49Speaker 2: simply blacking out the news. Hey, it happened. Now, I understand.
- 1:04:53Speaker 2: This is not like it was the campaign manager. And
- 1:04:55Speaker 2: if you're a candidate, you can't control everything that one
- 1:04:58Speaker 2: of your supporters says, anymore than if some he's a
- 1:05:00Speaker 2: listener to my podcast says something insane. You can't hold
- 1:05:03Speaker 2: me accountable for it. But this is somebody who's working
- 1:05:06Speaker 2: on a congressional campaign and made an incredibly horrifying statement.
- 1:05:13Speaker 2: I'm just telling you, if there was a parallel in
- 1:05:15Speaker 2: which this person was working for a Republican, there was
- 1:05:18Speaker 2: zero chance that the media would be spiking this story
- 1:05:23Speaker 2: in the fashion in which they are you're listening to
- 1:05:25Speaker 2: the Mark Belling podcast. This is the Mark Belling Podcast.
- 1:05:32Speaker 2: There's more. We have an actual policy position on an
- 1:05:38Speaker 2: important issue. The Milwaukee mayor, Cavalier Johnson. I actually have
- 1:05:45Speaker 2: had people ask me why I call him little Chevy.
- 1:05:48Speaker 2: You get why I call it little Chevy, don't you?
- 1:05:52Speaker 2: Jason does not. This is a fad. It is Chevy
- 1:05:56Speaker 2: Chevrolet US. They have a car called the Cavalier. Plus
- 1:06:00Speaker 2: his nickname is Chevy, and I call him little Chevy
- 1:06:03Speaker 2: because he's three feet tall. I admit I shouldn't do that.
- 1:06:07Speaker 2: The last person I called little because they were little
- 1:06:09Speaker 2: was long ago, former Milwaukee police Chief Art Jones, who
- 1:06:14Speaker 2: I called Little Artie, who was also short. I stopped
- 1:06:17Speaker 2: calling him that. He was hired by the mayor John Norkist,
- 1:06:20Speaker 2: who was the opposite of short Norqrist, was nineteen feet tall.
- 1:06:24Speaker 2: He wanted a police chief that he could control. He
- 1:06:26Speaker 2: was tired of having police chiefs. He didn't know what
- 1:06:28Speaker 2: he wanted. When he was the mayor, his bodyguard was
- 1:06:31Speaker 2: Art Jones, so he named his bodyguardener be the police chief.
- 1:06:34Speaker 2: So I called him little Arti because he just took
- 1:06:36Speaker 2: the job and he's going to be the twenty for
- 1:06:37Speaker 2: the mayor. But then he got in and he just
- 1:06:40Speaker 2: he would not do anything. Norkwist wanted it in. Norkwist
- 1:06:43Speaker 2: gave him a seven year term. He was a bad
- 1:06:46Speaker 2: police chief, but I stopped calling him little Artie because
- 1:06:48Speaker 2: he stood up to the mayor. Well it stood up
- 1:06:50Speaker 2: as much as a three foot guy. Kids. Anyway, it's
- 1:06:55Speaker 2: probably mean to call little Chevy little Chevy. I just
- 1:06:58Speaker 2: can't help myself. I've got I've explained to the past.
- 1:07:02Speaker 2: I have Ed Garvey disease. Ed Garvey, he's passed away
- 1:07:05Speaker 2: long ago. Wisconsin politician, he was the founder of the
- 1:07:08Speaker 2: National Football League Players Association, ran for a bunch of things,
- 1:07:12Speaker 2: didn't get himself elected to didn't get himself elected a
- 1:07:14Speaker 2: squad and one of the downsides he had politically was
- 1:07:17Speaker 2: what if a smart alec comet occurred to him? He
- 1:07:19Speaker 2: just couldn't help himself. He had to say it, well,
- 1:07:22Speaker 2: I have that too. If a smart elec comed occurs
- 1:07:24Speaker 2: to me, it's very hard for me to suppress it. Anyway,
- 1:07:29Speaker 2: Milwaukee could do worse as a mayor. And as I've said,
- 1:07:31Speaker 2: in the next election for mayor, which is twenty eighth
- 1:07:33Speaker 2: there's going to be a socialist running. They're running everywhere
- 1:07:35Speaker 2: on America and almost everywhere they're running against regular old Democrats,
- 1:07:40Speaker 2: and we're never going to get even a moderate mayor.
- 1:07:43Speaker 2: You're gonna get a liberal. The question is you're gonna
- 1:07:45Speaker 2: get a liberal who's a whack o Marxist or just
- 1:07:47Speaker 2: a regular liberal, which is what Johnson is. Johnson is
- 1:07:51Speaker 2: very much like his predecessor Tom Barrett. A few dope ideas,
- 1:07:57Speaker 2: but they're not Marxists. The dope idea that Chip Johnson Hanson's.
- 1:08:00Speaker 2: He's destroying all the streets in Milwaukee, putting on these
- 1:08:03Speaker 2: bumpball curves and segre separated bike lanes. And I will
- 1:08:08Speaker 2: admit I have driven in the bus lane. I mean,
- 1:08:12Speaker 2: when you've got a street where there's only two lanes
- 1:08:15Speaker 2: at one lane in each direction, and then a bus
- 1:08:17Speaker 2: lane to the side, and there's a car waiting to
- 1:08:19Speaker 2: turn left at the front of the driving lane, and
- 1:08:22Speaker 2: there's seventeen cars waiting for that card going left, and
- 1:08:24Speaker 2: here's the bus lane with nothing in it. I will
- 1:08:26Speaker 2: go in the bus lane to go around that car.
- 1:08:28Speaker 2: I admit that I've done that. I mean, I think
- 1:08:32Speaker 2: I would like to say everybody should do it, but
- 1:08:33Speaker 2: I'm not for somebody violating the traffic laws, even though
- 1:08:36Speaker 2: these are just they're artificial laws in which you just
- 1:08:38Speaker 2: put in stupid fake lanes. There may be no bus
- 1:08:41Speaker 2: within ninety miles, but you can't go over here. But
- 1:08:44Speaker 2: that's about all he's done. But other than that, he
- 1:08:47Speaker 2: has it like screwed too much else up. There is
- 1:08:51Speaker 2: a massive issue hanging over Milwaukee's head. The lefties want
- 1:08:55Speaker 2: to tear there's only for those of you not from Milwaukee.
- 1:08:57Speaker 2: There's only one freeway spur that runs downtown. The rest
- 1:09:02Speaker 2: of the freeway is on the edge of the downtown.
- 1:09:05Speaker 2: The Marquette Interchange I forty three is to the west
- 1:09:09Speaker 2: of downtown, and then it moves south, you know, towards Chicago.
- 1:09:17Speaker 2: I seven ninety four. I ninety four essentially turns north,
- 1:09:23Speaker 2: turns south towards Chicago before you get to downtown, right
- 1:09:25Speaker 2: on the edge of downtown. If you go north on
- 1:09:27Speaker 2: forty three, you go that way, but nothing takes you
- 1:09:29Speaker 2: into downtown. The only one that takes all this traffic
- 1:09:33Speaker 2: into downtown is seven ninety four. It's called seven. I
- 1:09:36Speaker 2: think there's something in the interstate system that you'd make
- 1:09:38Speaker 2: it a three digit number if it's a spur line
- 1:09:41Speaker 2: off an existing freeway. For example, eight ninety four is
- 1:09:44Speaker 2: our bypass. Seven ninety four is the spur line. Seven
- 1:09:46Speaker 2: ninety four runs the freeway right into the heart of
- 1:09:48Speaker 2: downtown Milwaukee. The lefties want to tear it down. Many people,
- 1:09:54Speaker 2: including some liberals, realize that this would be a disaster
- 1:09:59Speaker 2: because you would be taking all of this traffic, this
- 1:10:02Speaker 2: is thousands of cars a day and putting them on
- 1:10:05Speaker 2: city streets that are already clogged and now are even
- 1:10:07Speaker 2: worse because Chevy's put in these bump bulg curves and
- 1:10:09Speaker 2: all of this stuff. It would mean constant gridlock, destroy
- 1:10:13Speaker 2: the quality of life downtown. You'd be hearing nothing but
- 1:10:15Speaker 2: cars honking, and in the end, it would be very
- 1:10:19Speaker 2: bad for the arts community and for the businesses down
- 1:10:21Speaker 2: there because the people just aren't going to be able
- 1:10:23Speaker 2: to get to that stuff and will end up, you know,
- 1:10:25Speaker 2: avoiding it. I mean, Northwest Mutual has laid its entire
- 1:10:32Speaker 2: future on being a few blocks north of seven ninety four,
- 1:10:36Speaker 2: and every one of its employees that comes from somewhere
- 1:10:39Speaker 2: other than downtown takes seven ninety four to get there.
- 1:10:43Speaker 2: The mayor just has not stated a position on this,
- 1:10:46Speaker 2: and the DOT has been holding hearings, and the mayor
- 1:10:48Speaker 2: has finally uttered a position. And I am here to
- 1:10:51Speaker 2: tell you that he's taken the right position. And this,
- 1:10:56Speaker 2: as I say, is, while I've criticized him, he's certainly
- 1:10:58Speaker 2: better than what the alternative is going to be when
- 1:11:00Speaker 2: Ryan Clancy or one of the Marxist run against it,
- 1:11:02Speaker 2: runs against him in twenty twenty eight, because they would
- 1:11:04Speaker 2: certainly be they'll do the same things that are wrecking Seattle.
- 1:11:08Speaker 2: Milwaukee's not Seattle yet, we're not Chicago. It's difficult as
- 1:11:12Speaker 2: things are with regard to crime and so many of
- 1:11:14Speaker 2: the other problems. We have a way higher quality of
- 1:11:16Speaker 2: life than Chicago. We have some street takeovers, but they're
- 1:11:19Speaker 2: not nineteen at night like in Chicago. We actually do
- 1:11:23Speaker 2: arrest people and the police do chase people in the
- 1:11:26Speaker 2: city of Milwaukee. There are parts of Milwaukee. There isn't
- 1:11:29Speaker 2: a single part of Milwaukee that I think it's safe
- 1:11:32Speaker 2: for somebody without a gun to walk at night. I
- 1:11:34Speaker 2: just don't think there is. But it's safer than Chicago, Iowa,
- 1:11:39Speaker 2: for example. We'll do it. I'm not a whimp. But
- 1:11:44Speaker 2: the risk of something happening is there, but Seattle is worse.
- 1:11:50Speaker 2: We have homeless people living in the street of Milwaukee,
- 1:11:52Speaker 2: but there's not a zillion of them like Seattle, to
- 1:11:54Speaker 2: San Francisco and Portland and Los Angeles and so on.
- 1:12:01Speaker 2: The position of the mayor is well, we could tweak
- 1:12:04Speaker 2: I seven ninety four, but it shouldn't be taken down.
- 1:12:10Speaker 2: This is the correct position and he deserves praise for
- 1:12:15Speaker 2: taking the position. The MMAC, the Metropolitan Milwaukee Association of Commerce,
- 1:12:21Speaker 2: it's led by Dale Klanga, who was very good member
- 1:12:23Speaker 2: of the state legislature, but he's somewhat newted and that
- 1:12:26Speaker 2: he has to do what his membership wants. It is
- 1:12:28Speaker 2: a post to this as well. They've not been I
- 1:12:30Speaker 2: think strong enough in their opposition. They have to choose
- 1:12:33Speaker 2: the red. You can't fight lefty rhetoric with milk toast rhetoric.
- 1:12:38Speaker 2: You have to come out and say what the truth is.
- 1:12:40Speaker 2: The truth is. This would destroy the third Ward, just
- 1:12:43Speaker 2: destroy it. The third Ward is the most vibrant part
- 1:12:46Speaker 2: I close. It's an area that was nothing but a
- 1:12:51Speaker 2: bunch of warehouses thirty years ago, and it's just packed
- 1:12:54Speaker 2: with residential and lots of retail and hotels and the
- 1:12:57Speaker 2: whole thing. If you turn that thing to just clog
- 1:13:00Speaker 2: traffic and nobody can get to it, and all of
- 1:13:03Speaker 2: the vehicles that are trying to move through the region
- 1:13:05Speaker 2: have to be trying to, you know, wander through the
- 1:13:07Speaker 2: third ward. Furthermore, the people who live in Bayview would
- 1:13:12Speaker 2: have no way to get to their homes if you're
- 1:13:14Speaker 2: driving through city streets and plugging all the way. There's
- 1:13:18Speaker 2: so many ways in which it will be terrible for
- 1:13:19Speaker 2: the quality of life of people. But the reason that
- 1:13:24Speaker 2: left he's pushed it is because a they hate cars,
- 1:13:26Speaker 2: and b they probably don't own cars. And see, they
- 1:13:29Speaker 2: like it when you screw everything up. Do you think mom,
- 1:13:33Speaker 2: Donnie's going to be unhappy when the murder rate increases
- 1:13:35Speaker 2: in New York and more people live on the street.
- 1:13:38Speaker 2: This is the dream of Marxist. You see the mayor
- 1:13:41Speaker 2: of Seattle. She's crowing about how wonderful it is that
- 1:13:44Speaker 2: they're saying that the entire city has become one giant
- 1:13:46Speaker 2: puke pile. Say that's a literation again, puke pile. That
- 1:13:51Speaker 2: sounds better than if I would have said vomit pile,
- 1:13:54Speaker 2: doesn't it? I'd have to have come up with a
- 1:13:56Speaker 2: V word for vomited. And I'm doing this off the
- 1:13:58Speaker 2: top of my head, and I couldn't come up with
- 1:14:01Speaker 2: not a synonym? What is it when the word means
- 1:14:03Speaker 2: the same thing, synonym has sound alike? Is hominem opposite?
- 1:14:07Speaker 2: Or is it is that antonym? It's been too long
- 1:14:10Speaker 2: since I was too long since I've been in high school.
- 1:14:13Speaker 2: That was the last they taught me any of that.
- 1:14:15Speaker 2: What you don't know either, Paul Paul would not have
- 1:14:18Speaker 2: Paul would not have known either. I can't think of
- 1:14:20Speaker 2: a word that means the same as pile that started
- 1:14:22Speaker 2: with a V. I suppose I could have said vomit vat,
- 1:14:26Speaker 2: but that's not Next Festivals in Milwaukee, I have an update.
- 1:14:33Speaker 2: We used to have the same schedule every year, and
- 1:14:36Speaker 2: then it started two things changed. COVID screwed everything up,
- 1:14:39Speaker 2: and then summerfest went from being first it was Thursday
- 1:14:42Speaker 2: through Sunday, and then it was Thursday Sunday taking a
- 1:14:45Speaker 2: Monday off. Then COVID came around, and then they went
- 1:14:47Speaker 2: to this thing that half the people like and half
- 1:14:49Speaker 2: the people don't like them just running a three weekends
- 1:14:51Speaker 2: in a row. Thursday through Saturday. That means Summer Fest
- 1:14:54Speaker 2: takes up more time, so it's thrown off the other schedules.
- 1:14:58Speaker 2: The schedule used to be the The festival after Summerfest
- 1:15:01Speaker 2: was over was always Bestiel Days, and the same time
- 1:15:03Speaker 2: Bestille Days went on, Mechwan had gathering on the green.
- 1:15:08Speaker 2: Gathering on the green is exactly what it sounds like.
- 1:15:11Speaker 2: It's a gathering on the green in Mechwe. Well, it's dead.
- 1:15:15Speaker 2: There is no more gathering on the green. I didn't
- 1:15:18Speaker 2: think there was, but then I had to look it
- 1:15:19Speaker 2: up to make sure there's no gathering on the green.
- 1:15:21Speaker 2: So those of you with Mechwe who want to gather
- 1:15:22Speaker 2: on the green, you can just gather on some green somewhere.
- 1:15:25Speaker 2: But they're gonna be anybody else there. Bestille Days is
- 1:15:28Speaker 2: going on in downtown Milwaukee. They claim the festival as French.
- 1:15:32Speaker 2: You go down there, there's very little French about it
- 1:15:34Speaker 2: other than they put up a fake Eiffel tower. It's
- 1:15:37Speaker 2: just zillions of people hanging around on the street. However,
- 1:15:41Speaker 2: the festival that used to go on the weekend after
- 1:15:44Speaker 2: bestille Days was at the Summerfest grounds, and that was
- 1:15:47Speaker 2: Festa Italiana. Best Italiana was one of the too huge
- 1:15:51Speaker 2: of the ethnic festivals. The other Irish fest Fest Italiana,
- 1:15:54Speaker 2: has fallen on hard times in part because the Italians
- 1:15:57Speaker 2: are always bickering among themselves. There's these factions in there
- 1:16:02Speaker 2: raising the money and all of that stuff. And then
- 1:16:03Speaker 2: COVID came in and they ended up having a much
- 1:16:07Speaker 2: smaller one on the grounds of the Italian Community Center
- 1:16:10Speaker 2: rather than Summerfest. They're back at Summerfest now again, so
- 1:16:14Speaker 2: Fest Italiana is at Summerfest the same weekend that Pastille
- 1:16:17Speaker 2: Days is on the streets in Milwaukee. I don't think
- 1:16:19Speaker 2: they can flick with one another because they're very different festivals.
- 1:16:22Speaker 2: Fest Italiana is not as big as it used to be,
- 1:16:25Speaker 2: but it's certainly bigger than it was when it was
- 1:16:28Speaker 2: at the Italian Community Center. So they're going on at
- 1:16:30Speaker 2: the same time, and for those of you in Makwan,
- 1:16:32Speaker 2: you may as well come down to one of the
- 1:16:33Speaker 2: two of them, because there is no more gathering of
- 1:16:35Speaker 2: the Green now. The other reason that Fest Italiana can't
- 1:16:39Speaker 2: be next week is the Air and Water Show is
- 1:16:42Speaker 2: next week, which is a big thing. The Air and
- 1:16:44Speaker 2: Water Show is under new management and ownership this year.
- 1:16:47Speaker 2: Their problem this year is they don't have either the
- 1:16:50Speaker 2: Blue Angels or the Thunderbirds. The Blue Angels of the
- 1:16:53Speaker 2: Navy Precision Flying Team and the Thunderbirds. I was about
- 1:16:57Speaker 2: to say air Force, and then I corrected myself. It
- 1:16:59Speaker 2: is the Air Force, isn't it. No, the Blue Angels
- 1:17:04Speaker 2: are Navy, and we usually have the Blue Angels. I
- 1:17:06Speaker 2: can tell you the Blue Angels because they're here almost
- 1:17:08Speaker 2: every year. They're from Pensacola and they fly them up. Yeah.
- 1:17:11Speaker 2: I think the Thunderbird in I think the Army Flight
- 1:17:16Speaker 2: Team is the Knights. Anyway, because of America two fifty,
- 1:17:20Speaker 2: they're booked, we couldn't get the Blue Angels this year,
- 1:17:23Speaker 2: so they thought they o the Thunderbirds. But the Thunderbirds
- 1:17:26Speaker 2: are in demand. And I don't know how it's decided
- 1:17:28Speaker 2: where they go, but it must have something to do
- 1:17:30Speaker 2: with money and location and logistics and so on. So
- 1:17:33Speaker 2: they can have a good air and water show next week,
- 1:17:35Speaker 2: but they don't have the highlight of the you know,
- 1:17:37Speaker 2: and just the incredible loud jets, which makes it sound
- 1:17:41Speaker 2: like we're in the middle of a war zone. That's
- 1:17:43Speaker 2: the other reason I like the fact that when the
- 1:17:45Speaker 2: Blue Angels come in here, it goes back to the
- 1:17:47Speaker 2: first topic on the show. For some reason, this drives
- 1:17:49Speaker 2: liberals crazy. I think it drives them crazy because this
- 1:17:52Speaker 2: is like the military, and it's loud, and you know,
- 1:17:55Speaker 2: it's disturbing their pot headedness, and then they come up
- 1:17:58Speaker 2: with these excuses. It makes the dog bark. Yes, it
- 1:18:02Speaker 2: makes the dogs bark. Do you know anybody with a dog?
- 1:18:08Speaker 2: You have a dog, what happens whenever a straight stranger
- 1:18:11Speaker 2: walks into your house. Oh he's old, he doesn't when
- 1:18:15Speaker 2: he was younger, what would he do? I say? I
- 1:18:17Speaker 2: wan heye bark. The fat that dogs bark, goofy is
- 1:18:21Speaker 2: going so then they well, they hide underneath the table.
- 1:18:26Speaker 2: I won't quitt this in any great detail, but there's
- 1:18:29Speaker 2: a significant other in my life who has two dogs,
- 1:18:32Speaker 2: and one of them just likes me to death, and
- 1:18:33Speaker 2: the other one just thinks that I'm like evil barks
- 1:18:38Speaker 2: and barks and barks and barks, and but then runs
- 1:18:40Speaker 2: underneath the bed. I had this goal to win this
- 1:18:43Speaker 2: dog over. Anyway, I've clearly run out of things to say.
- 1:18:47Speaker 2: I think it's supposed to be decent weather in Milwaukee
- 1:18:49Speaker 2: for the weekend. The brewers are still on the road,
- 1:18:52Speaker 2: and then the All Star break goes on, so they
- 1:18:54Speaker 2: aren't back and chill the following weekend. I just you
- 1:18:58Speaker 2: could see this coming. Kyle Harrison's armor shot and he's
- 1:19:03Speaker 2: going to go to the d L I think or
- 1:19:04Speaker 2: the injured list. He didn't pitch well again. This is
- 1:19:08Speaker 2: on Thursday. On the Wednesday night game, you have the
- 1:19:11Speaker 2: All Star break in here. I'm hoping they can put
- 1:19:13Speaker 2: him back together because the one two combination of he
- 1:19:15Speaker 2: and Mizerowski is one of the reasons that the Brewers
- 1:19:18Speaker 2: have done well. I'd you know, I have a producer
- 1:19:22Speaker 2: here afflicted with the cancer. Being a Cubs fan, I
- 1:19:26Speaker 2: I cannot say that I think the Brewers are going
- 1:19:28Speaker 2: to win the division. The Cubs have way better hitting
- 1:19:31Speaker 2: than the Brewers, and the Cubs whole pitching staff's been
- 1:19:33Speaker 2: hurt this year. If they can come back and they're
- 1:19:36Speaker 2: pitching is just stunk. They're starting pitching stunk because everybody
- 1:19:39Speaker 2: hasn't hurt. But now they're continuing to win, and it's
- 1:19:44Speaker 2: going to be a difficult thing holding them off. Although
- 1:19:47Speaker 2: I mean there's I think three strong teams, really strong
- 1:19:50Speaker 2: teams in the nash Had of League. Unfortunately two of
- 1:19:52Speaker 2: them on our own division. On the other hand, the
- 1:19:55Speaker 2: Cubs has been weird this year. They're either hot or cold.
- 1:19:58Speaker 2: They're never like Okay or Midland. I mean, they're really
- 1:20:02Speaker 2: hot again right now. They had two ten game winning streaks,
- 1:20:06Speaker 2: and the Brewers have been playing very, very well. But
- 1:20:09Speaker 2: as I say, you have to be worried about the
- 1:20:11Speaker 2: pitching staff, given that you've had a lot of guys
- 1:20:16Speaker 2: that never have really been that good, or, in the
- 1:20:18Speaker 2: case of Vizarowski, first full season in the major leagues,
- 1:20:21Speaker 2: asking them to do a lot more than they have
- 1:20:25Speaker 2: in the past. I think that the Brewers have more depth,
- 1:20:28Speaker 2: have a better farm system. If they do trade, to
- 1:20:31Speaker 2: choose to trade prospects, they have more to trade than
- 1:20:33Speaker 2: the Cubs have to trade. On the other hand, it
- 1:20:36Speaker 2: has not been the way the Brewers have operated to
- 1:20:39Speaker 2: sacrifice two or three future All Stars just to try
- 1:20:42Speaker 2: to get one guy who may or may not help
- 1:20:45Speaker 2: you win a World Series in a given year. All Right,
- 1:20:49Speaker 2: that's it for today's program. We'll have another podcast for
- 1:20:52Speaker 2: you on Monday, Talk to Though.
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