Latest / Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast / Episode 262: Submersion (SG-A 3.18)
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- 0:25Speaker 1: Get into Gate episode two hundred and sixty two, talking
- 0:29Speaker 1: Stargate Atlantis. The Gate is here today by names Mitch
- 0:33Speaker 1: joining me, Brendan, hello, mate, and Maddy.
- 0:36Speaker 2: What's going on? Boys?
- 0:37Speaker 3: Oh mate, we're back?
- 0:39Speaker 1: What it was here? It's rare in to go in
- 0:43Speaker 1: an episode called Submersion, which when I hear the title
- 0:46Speaker 1: and being the first time SGA watcher, and then all
- 0:48Speaker 1: of a sudden, I see Rodney in a puddle jumper
- 0:50Speaker 1: going underwater. It's called submersion. My yea, are we going
- 0:53Speaker 1: to get like another episode where they just get sort
- 0:55Speaker 1: of like stuck underwater in a puddle.
- 0:57Speaker 2: Wow?
- 0:57Speaker 1: Okay, well it's going to be a seasonal thing.
- 1:00Speaker 2: Is it interesting? And Joe get stuck underwater a good reference?
- 1:05Speaker 2: I like that? You know this time?
- 1:07Speaker 1: Is it Renny Ronan who gets around wearing next to
- 1:09Speaker 1: nothing like.
- 1:12Speaker 2: We're into it?
- 1:12Speaker 3: Obviously that's Acoman But yeah.
- 1:14Speaker 1: Sadly we had to wait an extra couple of years.
- 1:16Speaker 1: But he did pack on the muscles and grew his
- 1:18Speaker 1: hair even longer and wilder. But anyway, Submersion what it's
- 1:22Speaker 1: actually about. The team searches the ocean for a mobile
- 1:25Speaker 1: geothermal drilling station. The ancients left dormant. Cautiously exploring the station,
- 1:29Speaker 1: Taylor thinks she senses the presence of a wraith. We
- 1:32Speaker 1: are believing it's pressure affecting Taylor as the team press on.
- 1:36Speaker 2: What Brendan right?
- 1:40Speaker 1: That straight off the MGM part? Amazon? Who owned MGM.
- 1:46Speaker 1: It's as official as its goal.
- 1:47Speaker 3: Get Yeah, why was Elizabeth in this episode?
- 1:51Speaker 1: Because she's great, As we learn a couple of episodes,
- 1:55Speaker 1: the story needs her to be.
- 1:57Speaker 3: I mean, we know how dangerous to jump it can
- 1:59Speaker 3: be underwater. We have the leader of the expedition, the
- 2:01Speaker 3: military leader of the whole base, and also the two
- 2:05Speaker 3: top scientists. Seems like an unnecessary risk if they're just
- 2:09Speaker 3: trying to find it.
- 2:10Speaker 2: No, Look, she's just she's just one of the people. Know,
- 2:13Speaker 2: She's just this is this is something you'd never see
- 2:16Speaker 2: Jack do. This is something you'd never see Hammond. She's just,
- 2:20Speaker 2: you know, she's one of the people and just real
- 2:23Speaker 2: grassroots and down to earth. Until writing delivers the pulinary
- 2:26Speaker 2: status report, I'm not yours.
- 2:28Speaker 1: I'm going to work, colonel. I'll bet she wanted him
- 2:30Speaker 1: to work.
- 2:31Speaker 2: Come on, if anyone said John Breathy this episode, it
- 2:35Speaker 2: was Taylor.
- 2:36Speaker 3: Sure, I'm glad you brought it up.
- 2:38Speaker 1: It was just it was just the way that she's like, Hey, John,
- 2:41Speaker 1: I'm yours put me however you want to put me,
- 2:44Speaker 1: and like, Colonel I believe sure, But it was just
- 2:48Speaker 1: I'm like, out of the way. I was just thinking
- 2:50Speaker 1: the way that this this show, and certainly this half
- 2:52Speaker 1: of the room of this show is going to hear
- 2:55Speaker 1: and view a scene presented to us like that.
- 2:57Speaker 3: But she's like, I've got nothing else better to do.
- 2:59Speaker 1: Hey, you do with me, what you tell me, what
- 3:01Speaker 1: you want me to do. And I'm like, oh god, your.
- 3:05Speaker 2: Guys, your guys, fantasies is what we're living. We're living
- 3:08Speaker 2: your Well.
- 3:08Speaker 3: Let's listen to the listen when I sometimes when I
- 3:11Speaker 3: watch these episode, my mind drifts to a strange thought pattern,
- 3:15Speaker 3: and clearly it's not just me unless I am planned
- 3:18Speaker 3: some kind of mind virus and new Mitch Okay.
- 3:20Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you've been influencing him since like tenth grade.
- 3:23Speaker 3: Yes, So I noticed that this episode had has some
- 3:28Speaker 3: strange sexual undertones, and I think that this audio that
- 3:32Speaker 3: I'm about to play, we'll show you why that wasn't
- 3:35Speaker 3: so hard. I gotta do, is doctor Stag I'm so
- 3:40Speaker 3: glad you came.
- 3:42Speaker 2: Oh sorry, I was preoccupied thinking about them not drilling.
- 3:45Speaker 2: Shouldn't take us much longer.
- 3:47Speaker 3: We just passed a thermal layer and I'm getting nuts,
- 3:52Speaker 3: and now that I.
- 3:53Speaker 4: Think you're nuts.
- 3:54Speaker 1: Sorry, John, I'm relieved, so am I.
- 3:59Speaker 3: We have have a lot of exploring to do.
- 4:01Speaker 2: I'm all yours, Colonel Ronan.
- 4:04Speaker 3: You're with tailor Elizabeth, you're with me, or I'm with you,
- 4:07Speaker 3: however you want to put it.
- 4:09Speaker 2: Either way, your friendship is very important to me. I
- 4:15Speaker 2: would hate to do anything that makes you uncomfortable. Okay,
- 4:21Speaker 2: I'm uncomfortable. That does?
- 4:28Speaker 3: That does?
- 4:30Speaker 4: Oh?
- 4:30Speaker 3: We are at the very bottom of maybe right. He
- 4:33Speaker 3: was just experiencing the effects of the pressure.
- 4:35Speaker 1: I feel not as bad as that guy. You know what,
- 4:37Speaker 1: shut up?
- 4:38Speaker 4: You know what?
- 4:39Speaker 2: You shut up?
- 4:39Speaker 1: Hey, I don't hear Grayson complaining because I remember thinking, get.
- 4:45Speaker 2: Rodney's going on?
- 4:46Speaker 3: Really, what's going on?
- 4:48Speaker 1: We just lost the light?
- 4:49Speaker 3: And so Lanka, what are you doing?
- 4:52Speaker 2: What do you mean? What am I doing? I think
- 4:58Speaker 2: I think it's very appropriate your wearing your rate makes
- 5:00Speaker 2: Stargate great again, hat because those are some alternative.
- 5:03Speaker 1: Facts that you just played right there.
- 5:05Speaker 3: Or hey, all of those audio clips, apart from the
- 5:08Speaker 3: the music was from the episode.
- 5:12Speaker 4: I know.
- 5:12Speaker 2: They were very, very tastefully edited.
- 5:14Speaker 1: You know, my kids were watching that Simpsons episode this
- 5:17Speaker 1: week where he gets accused of sexual assault with the
- 5:19Speaker 1: babysitter and then he goes and that Yeah yeah, sweet.
- 5:25Speaker 2: Sweet sweet, ye give me some of that sweet sweet.
- 5:30Speaker 1: Because I was there. Aside from a couple of those things, yeah,
- 5:34Speaker 1: there there were more than what I had remembered.
- 5:36Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it was a lot.
- 5:37Speaker 2: There was a lot in there, and.
- 5:39Speaker 3: The docking one made me laugh. Yeah, you're glad you
- 5:41Speaker 3: came far right out, man, and like you need to.
- 5:45Speaker 2: Have some private time before you watch the episode just
- 5:48Speaker 2: to come. I think it's the breath, the breath of
- 5:51Speaker 2: your stuff.
- 5:52Speaker 3: I'm yours, colonel. Oh my god, do with me what
- 5:56Speaker 3: you will. I didn't write this.
- 5:58Speaker 2: I think you just I think you just you secretly
- 6:00Speaker 2: just actually like I want to be with Weir.
- 6:04Speaker 3: It's not a secret, it's it's it's you.
- 6:10Speaker 2: You pick on her because you know that you can
- 6:12Speaker 2: never have her, so you're just like, you know what,
- 6:14Speaker 2: I need to mentally just you know, separate myself from
- 6:17Speaker 2: her because you're obsessed with her. Probably Meanwhile McKay is
- 6:25Speaker 2: a terrible boss.
- 6:27Speaker 3: Oh yeah, like awful.
- 6:29Speaker 2: Just don't remember people's names to their face. And then
- 6:33Speaker 2: it's like, oh, I probably shouldn't have hired you, Greason.
- 6:35Speaker 2: I wanted to hire the guy that sounded like Robin.
- 6:39Speaker 3: What I like, I think it was Dick.
- 6:44Speaker 1: It was almost like a bit of a Stargate version
- 6:49Speaker 1: of you know, there's in this again and Simpsons check
- 6:52Speaker 1: God with with less than ten minutes into Sympsons of references,
- 6:54Speaker 1: but when they go to that Simpsons or the show
- 6:56Speaker 1: where they meet Adam West and he starts talking at
- 6:59Speaker 1: Robin and buzz like, who the hell's Robin because like
- 7:01Speaker 1: he's growing up in a time of Michael Keaton Batman
- 7:03Speaker 1: at that time, and like probably edging towards not edging
- 7:07Speaker 1: that wasn't send in this episode, towards like the val
- 7:09Speaker 1: Kilma time, but where like no one knew who Robin
- 7:11Speaker 1: was there for. I guess for a bit because they
- 7:13Speaker 1: just traded. I don't know, we're gonna we're gonna get
- 7:15Speaker 1: the boy, wondered.
- 7:15Speaker 2: From They kind of revisited that joke all after shirw
- 7:19Speaker 2: It's from your favorite show, The Big Bang Theory, where
- 7:21Speaker 2: they got Adam west On and they're driving him to
- 7:23Speaker 2: a party and they're all sitting in the car and
- 7:25Speaker 2: they're ranking all the like the best Batman, like from
- 7:28Speaker 2: first to last, and they all do their own lists
- 7:30Speaker 2: blah blah blah. And it gets to Adam west and
- 7:32Speaker 2: he goes, what's an affleck? He just has no idea.
- 7:37Speaker 1: That voice too saying that would be amazing. Yeah, just
- 7:40Speaker 1: the way that he had to really run through his
- 7:46Speaker 1: favorite cat woman. Here's only one cat woman and then
- 7:48Speaker 1: this one and then this one.
- 7:49Speaker 2: Yeah, this one.
- 7:50Speaker 1: That was just the way that he like he said
- 7:51Speaker 1: that that. He's like, oh, Dick Grayson, Bruce, Wayne's Ward.
- 7:54Speaker 1: And I'm like, other than just saying Robin, it was
- 7:56Speaker 1: just like I had to explain like what that person
- 7:58Speaker 1: was in that.
- 7:59Speaker 2: It doesn't it. Yeah. In twenty twenty four, though, you
- 8:01Speaker 2: have to use Ward in air quotes because we all
- 8:03Speaker 2: know Byby and his name was Burt Ward, so he
- 8:06Speaker 2: can't get away from it. So yeah, Bur Badman is like, Oh,
- 8:08Speaker 2: I'm going to have this young boy. He's gonna be
- 8:10Speaker 2: my Ward, and I'm going to put him in green
- 8:13Speaker 2: Dick stickers and tights and little pixie boots. Yeah, and
- 8:15Speaker 2: we got a fight crime together.
- 8:17Speaker 1: But the outside world is aware. I have this young
- 8:20Speaker 1: man living with me, and after a couple of years
- 8:22Speaker 1: he just disappears. Yeah, and I get another young boy
- 8:25Speaker 1: to take his place.
- 8:26Speaker 2: And then he appears later on Over eighteen comes back
- 8:29Speaker 2: in like full head to toe black leather and had
- 8:31Speaker 2: the most iconic ass in all of comics.
- 8:33Speaker 1: And he's got his own young people around him.
- 8:35Speaker 3: Yeah, like Jeffrey Epstein.
- 8:38Speaker 2: Yeah, same same way Magneto and Professor X were just friends.
- 8:42Speaker 5: Yeah, you grew up in the sixties, baby, Yeah, but
- 8:46Speaker 5: something that like Rodney was also I found like super
- 8:50Speaker 5: super disrespectful to Taylor, like unnecessarily so like when she's like,
- 8:54Speaker 5: oh yeah, I sense a Wraith and it's like she's
- 8:57Speaker 5: been known to sense Wraith, Like she can hilot a
- 9:00Speaker 5: freaking Wraith ship with her Wraith DNA, she could communicate
- 9:04Speaker 5: with Wraith like a star system away.
- 9:08Speaker 2: And he's like, but the censors say nothing, so you
- 9:11Speaker 2: must just be a retarded woman, like like bro, Like,
- 9:16Speaker 2: it's Taylor, she's your teammate and your friend, and when
- 9:20Speaker 2: you were dying a couple of weeks ago, you served
- 9:22Speaker 2: her like the tea service out of respect and now
- 9:25Speaker 2: you're just disrespecting her in front of everybody.
- 9:27Speaker 3: But that's her superpower. Yeah, she can.
- 9:31Speaker 2: That's the only reason we bring her on these missions.
- 9:33Speaker 2: Like now we have Ronan, he's the hand to hand
- 9:35Speaker 2: combat guy. When was the last time we saw Stale
- 9:38Speaker 2: Taylor actually fight with those sticks? You know, like now
- 9:41Speaker 2: she just walks around and tells people she trains them.
- 9:43Speaker 3: Yeah that's true, No it was. And yeah, Ronan's like,
- 9:48Speaker 3: your machines don't know everything. I'm like, yeah, they don't
- 9:51Speaker 3: know everything. Oh and then he just can apple iPad.
- 9:55Speaker 3: You should have zoomed out, you would seen a Wraith cruiser.
- 9:58Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he mut a little bit further.
- 10:00Speaker 3: Jesus I did.
- 10:02Speaker 1: Like between Ronan and Taylor where she's there about to
- 10:05Speaker 1: go back into the second time knowingly go in and
- 10:09Speaker 1: you know, mess with the Wraith the mind connection thing,
- 10:11Speaker 1: and she turns to Ronan and says, hey, you look,
- 10:14Speaker 1: just in case you want to have that thing, because
- 10:16Speaker 1: I've already do it, don't worry, I will, I'll take
- 10:18Speaker 1: care of you. And it was just like a mutual
- 10:20Speaker 1: like warrior thing. It's like, you know, let's leave friendship
- 10:23Speaker 1: out of this. You need to take me down. He's like, oh, absolutely,
- 10:26Speaker 1: Like you know that I love and respect you. We
- 10:28Speaker 1: can just not mention that I will kill you. In fact,
- 10:32Speaker 1: I hope you give me the chance, and I hope
- 10:33Speaker 1: that you hope that I'll.
- 10:34Speaker 2: Give you this.
- 10:34Speaker 3: Yeah, he wants to kill anything any chance he gets.
- 10:38Speaker 1: I'm underwater. My targets are very limited down here, so
- 10:41Speaker 1: give me something to.
- 10:42Speaker 3: Shoot every time. Shepherd's like stun and he's like, why, okay, bullshit.
- 10:48Speaker 2: I did you mentioned before? Redd? I do love the
- 10:51Speaker 2: idea that like that Wraith cruiser with the Queen and
- 10:53Speaker 2: it has been at the bottom of the ocean the
- 10:55Speaker 2: whole time.
- 10:56Speaker 3: Yeah, how long do you I was trying to figure
- 10:58Speaker 3: it out.
- 10:59Speaker 2: I would say ten thousand years since like the I'm
- 11:02Speaker 2: assuming yeah, because the link had that line with like
- 11:05Speaker 2: the amount of silk that's been over the top of it,
- 11:06Speaker 2: It's been there a really, really long time. Yeah, so
- 11:11Speaker 2: I'm assuming it's yeah, the last invasion of Atlantis that.
- 11:16Speaker 1: She was leading the first invasion.
- 11:18Speaker 2: Oh sorry, probably later, it's probably yeah.
- 11:23Speaker 3: Years, yeah, yeah, longer and longer than.
- 11:25Speaker 2: The Only thing that kind of stretches my belief in
- 11:28Speaker 2: that is the fact that she didn't sense anybody until now,
- 11:34Speaker 2: like do you or or the SNL version of this
- 11:39Speaker 2: is she sensed the siege back at the end of
- 11:42Speaker 2: season one, but she was just stuck in a ship
- 11:45Speaker 2: going would you mother come down here and get me,
- 11:47Speaker 2: because like, you know, it's established that it's like, you know,
- 11:50Speaker 2: Taylor was that Taylor, with her limited amount of wrath ability,
- 11:54Speaker 2: was able to make contact with the wraith at the
- 11:56Speaker 2: edge of the Solar system, so you would see the pressure. Yeah, yeah,
- 12:00Speaker 2: you'd think the queen would have would have sensed the
- 12:02Speaker 2: battle going on and being like, guys, I'm down here, true,
- 12:04Speaker 2: and could have talked to them and said, oh, come
- 12:06Speaker 2: get back, come get send Dart down. Yeah. Well, then again,
- 12:09Speaker 2: I guess it's a different different hives, so they could
- 12:11Speaker 2: they could have been the other queen just going sorry, sorry,
- 12:14Speaker 2: love bye. So she's just down, she's just down below,
- 12:18Speaker 2: just pissed, just like being like, oh my god, they're
- 12:20Speaker 2: right there and I can't get to them.
- 12:22Speaker 3: When they showed her swimming, I'm like, wouldn't that pressure
- 12:25Speaker 3: just kill her immediately? Yeah, And then kind of Raddick says,
- 12:28Speaker 3: you know, with their generation, it'd be hard to believe
- 12:30Speaker 3: but yeah, maybe she could have made it, and you're like, oh, okay,
- 12:33Speaker 3: so that's why she never made it to the surface.
- 12:35Speaker 2: Yeah, that was That was something I was actually wondering
- 12:37Speaker 2: whether Mitch actually noticed that, because Mitch is famous for
- 12:39Speaker 2: doing three things while he's watching Stargate, and there's just
- 12:41Speaker 2: this very very quick sort of cut to him, and
- 12:44Speaker 2: after like Rodney sends the two guys whose names he
- 12:46Speaker 2: doesn't really remember to go and scan from the jumper,
- 12:51Speaker 2: it just cuts away to this silent scene and just yeah,
- 12:54Speaker 2: of just like the Wraith queen swimming through the water.
- 12:57Speaker 2: I was like, if Mitch wasn't looking at the screen
- 12:59Speaker 2: at that very moment, he's going to be very confused. Yeah.
- 13:02Speaker 3: True, but it's going to be thinking she just she's
- 13:05Speaker 3: been on the she's been on the drilling pep for
- 13:08Speaker 3: the whole time.
- 13:08Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 13:08Speaker 1: Well, and up until that point, I think that's I
- 13:11Speaker 1: think that's what their intent was. Yeah, it was, and
- 13:14Speaker 1: that's probably why I didn't think about the fact that
- 13:16Speaker 1: what doesn't make sense that she wasn't able to sense
- 13:19Speaker 1: Wraith in the past, and the fact that this episode
- 13:21Speaker 1: is not that it is recconning stuff, but you're kind
- 13:23Speaker 1: of having to wreckon some details or make up its
- 13:26Speaker 1: own story and blah blahlah mess with with rape abilities
- 13:29Speaker 1: because they get close enough to the drilling station, and
- 13:32Speaker 1: then we just cut to that pre credit shot where
- 13:34Speaker 1: her eyes open. It's like, oh, well she's there, and
- 13:36Speaker 1: they're finally like they're coming closer to her, and so
- 13:40Speaker 1: that made sense when they're like, oh, no, life signs
- 13:42Speaker 1: are here. Yeah, oh that's weird. And then yeah, until
- 13:45Speaker 1: we see that that one shot of her swimming, and
- 13:48Speaker 1: at that point didn't it didn't necessarily look very human like.
- 13:51Speaker 1: It was obviously just a bit of you know, CGI
- 13:54Speaker 1: at the time, where like trying to create the human
- 13:56Speaker 1: body in the way that it moves look.
- 13:58Speaker 2: Like that scene from Harry Potter four whether all underwater?
- 14:00Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, well it would have been yeah, similar
- 14:03Speaker 1: enough time, So yeah, probably, I think because in my
- 14:06Speaker 1: head she was on the ship at the start, so
- 14:09Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking about the limitations of her powers are
- 14:12Speaker 1: being not in a plot hole, but at least a
- 14:16Speaker 1: question that I should have had. And then by the
- 14:17Speaker 1: time I realized, okay, well she's coming from away from
- 14:19Speaker 1: the ship, I was just thinking about what we were
- 14:21Speaker 1: getting told. Yeah, from that point.
- 14:23Speaker 2: It did also make me think though, It's like, Okay,
- 14:25Speaker 2: I could buy that her regenerative powers are what's stopping
- 14:27Speaker 2: her from being crushed by the pressure, And I'm like,
- 14:29Speaker 2: but do her a generative powers help her hold her
- 14:32Speaker 2: breath longer, like to swim, swim as far as she
- 14:36Speaker 2: had to do. And then at that point it's like, yeah,
- 14:39Speaker 2: so it's like, well, how far could she go? Did
- 14:41Speaker 2: she ever try to swim to the service? You know?
- 14:44Speaker 2: Are we just unaware of just how far down deep
- 14:47Speaker 2: they were? And that kind of thing. So yeah, it's
- 14:50Speaker 2: very very interesting, But it did also kind of it
- 14:53Speaker 2: it shined the light on my stupidity and my inability
- 14:57Speaker 2: to conceive the idea like the water pool like inside
- 15:02Speaker 2: the drilling platform, Like I get if you get like
- 15:04Speaker 2: a cup and turn it upside down and push it
- 15:06Speaker 2: down into water, the air pocket stays there. So in
- 15:09Speaker 2: my brain, I go, so, did they make the drilling
- 15:12Speaker 2: platform and then have to drop it in perfectly down?
- 15:15Speaker 2: Like I just can't understand how you can be underwater
- 15:20Speaker 2: in a room and have that pool there, Like.
- 15:22Speaker 1: I'm just as to water.
- 15:23Speaker 2: That should be yeah, that should just be flooding into
- 15:25Speaker 2: the places like my brain is just dumb in that way.
- 15:27Speaker 1: My mind takes me back to watching Deep Blue Sea
- 15:30Speaker 1: in ninety nine. Samuel at that same Samuel Jackson gets
- 15:33Speaker 1: absolutely more because they're they're there, they've been submerged. Yeah,
- 15:36Speaker 1: and there is that too. They go, this is how
- 15:38Speaker 1: we can escape. We're underwater. There's no way to get
- 15:40Speaker 1: out up top. But if we take this ship or
- 15:43Speaker 1: something and we go out that pool at the bottom
- 15:45Speaker 1: of the or the opening at the bottom of the
- 15:47Speaker 1: of the station, and then yeah, they mess with the
- 15:49Speaker 1: pressure and all of a sudden, that thing just shoots
- 15:51Speaker 1: like skyrockets up, this funnel of sea water coming up.
- 15:55Speaker 1: So yeah, it's obviously yeah, perfectly pressurized and whatnot. So
- 15:59Speaker 1: we found out when when Ronan missed, as he said,
- 16:03Speaker 1: was a little whoopsie of the and at least it
- 16:05Speaker 1: knocked down everybody. It wasn't like it put them out
- 16:07Speaker 1: of commission and the Raith game runs off.
- 16:09Speaker 2: She just swam through it.
- 16:10Speaker 1: She'd been Yeah, she'd been knocked out just as much.
- 16:12Speaker 2: So what occurred to me in that scene though, is
- 16:16Speaker 2: that's when like John walks into the jumper and old
- 16:19Speaker 2: mate is sitting at the chair and he grabs his
- 16:22Speaker 2: shoulder and then realized he's been fed on. We never
- 16:24Speaker 2: find the second body of the other guy. We never
- 16:27Speaker 2: find out if he survived. They just aweary Yeah, Dixon, Davidson,
- 16:31Speaker 2: Dixon whatever, Dickson, Yes, as far as I'm aware, Like,
- 16:36Speaker 2: we don't ever find out where that he survived or
- 16:39Speaker 2: we don't find his body.
- 16:41Speaker 3: Well, imagine how hungry she would be after that long,
- 16:44Speaker 3: Like she's she would have just seen Gray graydon with
- 16:46Speaker 3: a d and just just mould him, just gone for
- 16:50Speaker 3: the And how she resists, Like the plot said that
- 16:53Speaker 3: she resisted to eat Dickinson. Sorry, just making eye contacted
- 17:01Speaker 3: you getting Shepherd into the towards the puddle jumper. That
- 17:06Speaker 3: was kind of her plan, right to get him. That's
- 17:08Speaker 3: why she didn't just eat him immediately.
- 17:10Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, because I did see some trivia and I
- 17:13Speaker 2: was like, yeah, I could kind of buy that where
- 17:15Speaker 2: someone was kind of saying a bit if he like
- 17:17Speaker 2: for the joke for him to be able to go
- 17:19Speaker 2: and tap that guy on the shoulder to spit him out,
- 17:21Speaker 2: to realize he was just a corpse. They're like, well,
- 17:23Speaker 2: wouldn't his hair have been white from being fed on? Yeah? True,
- 17:26Speaker 2: But I mean, not everyone goes great, do they? I
- 17:28Speaker 2: feel like not everyone.
- 17:30Speaker 3: The feet when they get fed on. I think it's
- 17:33Speaker 3: kind of a different.
- 17:36Speaker 2: Yeah, like in life, like does everyone.
- 17:39Speaker 1: I reckon, I'm going to go. I reckon, I'm going
- 17:41Speaker 1: to go, Steve Martin, I reckon, I'm gonna go white,
- 17:43Speaker 1: you know, like I'm thirty eight and change. And I've
- 17:46Speaker 1: got a few grays in that coming through, especially in
- 17:49Speaker 1: the chest hair region, and they are white, but.
- 17:51Speaker 2: Maybe wait till they show up a little down the
- 17:54Speaker 2: dark brown.
- 17:55Speaker 1: Yeah, but I've got like the mister fantastics going on,
- 17:57Speaker 1: like the sort of upper sideburns set of area, and
- 18:00Speaker 1: they seem more white than they do.
- 18:01Speaker 2: Great look in the safety of the podcast, though, I
- 18:03Speaker 2: feel like you are a fine wine. Like I shared
- 18:05Speaker 2: a picture of us from the Guardians of the Galaxy
- 18:08Speaker 2: movie premiere like ten years ago the other day. You've
- 18:11Speaker 2: had a massive glow up since that point. So I
- 18:14Speaker 2: feel like you age quite well. So I think whatever
- 18:17Speaker 2: it is, it's gonna work.
- 18:18Speaker 1: For you know, for the longest time I said, I
- 18:19Speaker 1: want to age great. I don't want to do any
- 18:20Speaker 1: of this stupid shit about it for going bald and
- 18:23Speaker 1: go on board my old man was gone bald and
- 18:24Speaker 1: he's twenty two, so I know that's my future.
- 18:27Speaker 2: That's fine. Well, isn't that old wives tale about how
- 18:30Speaker 2: you actually get the Baldens gene from your mother's side.
- 18:32Speaker 1: Mother's father. But I reckon, I reckon it's a bit
- 18:35Speaker 1: of half half between I think your mum, your maternal grandfather,
- 18:39Speaker 1: and you straight up your old man. I reckon it's
- 18:41Speaker 1: a nice mix in me.
- 18:42Speaker 2: I mean, you and Lincoln definitely have your father's hairline,
- 18:45Speaker 2: like fourteen wise.
- 18:46Speaker 1: Yeah, but where we've lasted a lot longer, Like I'm
- 18:48Speaker 1: sixteen years on from when my old man was starting
- 18:50Speaker 1: to get the fry tuck going on. And I reckon
- 18:52Speaker 1: that my maternal grandfather's side of it is like it's
- 18:55Speaker 1: a battle, yeah, and I don't know who's gonna win.
- 18:57Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 18:57Speaker 1: I think I end up just calling a truce and
- 19:00Speaker 1: it's like going and go that's it, and then I'll
- 19:02Speaker 1: go then I'll go white.
- 19:03Speaker 3: Yeah, It'll be like, oh, I want to if I
- 19:06Speaker 3: got to forty and I wasn't completely bald.
- 19:08Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, same same, And I'm like three weeks away
- 19:11Speaker 2: from that.
- 19:11Speaker 1: So well, when they go, we had it tougher back
- 19:13Speaker 1: then You're like, no, you didn't. Well maybe maybe or
- 19:16Speaker 1: maybe she saw the preservatives we keep eating. That's that's
- 19:18Speaker 1: what I Everyone's goes, Oh, well, you know, like like
- 19:21Speaker 1: Sarah looks at me and she's like, oh, you've got
- 19:22Speaker 1: a wrinkle. She's like she's younger than me, and she's like, oh,
- 19:24Speaker 1: I look so much older than It's just eat more
- 19:27Speaker 1: shit food. I'm sure, Like it's just all the chemicals
- 19:30Speaker 1: I'm pumping into my sud.
- 19:31Speaker 3: So my wife says, And I'm like, that's because I smile.
- 19:33Speaker 2: Just go.
- 19:37Speaker 1: It uses less muscles.
- 19:39Speaker 2: I did see a thing on TikTok though, where they
- 19:41Speaker 2: say like our generation is actually aging really really well
- 19:44Speaker 2: and that and there's like the next year like jen
- 19:47Speaker 2: Z or whatever, like they're they're twenty five looking like
- 19:50Speaker 2: they're forty already, and where all forty looks.
- 19:53Speaker 3: They're stressed about like global warming and stuff.
- 19:55Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 19:55Speaker 3: Yeah, chill, guys, Well that's.
- 19:57Speaker 2: What they want to do. They want to chill.
- 19:59Speaker 3: You don't want we don't want a nice age again.
- 20:03Speaker 1: Meet in the middle somewhere. My kids the other they
- 20:05Speaker 1: were like, oh, what do you want? You know, what's
- 20:07Speaker 1: the one thing you want or something to each other
- 20:08Speaker 1: in life, and one of my boys said, I want
- 20:10Speaker 1: to live to I'm one hundred and ten. He goes,
- 20:12Speaker 1: but I know that's not going to happen, And my
- 20:14Speaker 1: wife's like, well it might. By the time you get old,
- 20:16Speaker 1: that might be the norm. You know, like, yeah, you
- 20:18Speaker 1: think about what people are, you know, the average if
- 20:21Speaker 1: you're old enough to you know, oh sorry, if you're
- 20:23Speaker 1: lucky enough to get to a stage where you can
- 20:25Speaker 1: get to your nineties and die of quote unquote natural
- 20:28Speaker 1: causes or something, or just your your body not being
- 20:31Speaker 1: able to fight off stuff like it used to. You know,
- 20:34Speaker 1: it's a lot older than what it was twenty years ago,
- 20:37Speaker 1: fifty years ago, where people were not making it that old.
- 20:39Speaker 1: So maybe by the time my kid, who's nine, if
- 20:42Speaker 1: he wants to see out another one hundred and one
- 20:44Speaker 1: years of life, he might be able to.
- 20:46Speaker 2: Hey. Fun fact, the day after my birthday will be
- 20:49Speaker 2: when we premiere Unending.
- 20:51Speaker 1: Oh shit, bro, nice.
- 20:55Speaker 2: You unending youth cloth.
- 20:58Speaker 1: You maybe forty on paper mate, but you'll forever be
- 21:00Speaker 1: in your thirties.
- 21:01Speaker 2: Yeah, young.
- 21:05Speaker 3: I just didn't like the Wraiths plan. I get that
- 21:09Speaker 3: she took over Taylor's body, which was.
- 21:12Speaker 2: Cool, yeah. I mean, we'd all did that if we could.
- 21:16Speaker 1: But when we are first in line, she's made that
- 21:18Speaker 1: very clear.
- 21:19Speaker 3: But when you get Taylor to kind of unlock the
- 21:23Speaker 3: areas of the ship where you can get to the
- 21:25Speaker 3: puddle jumper, go to the puddle jumper, maybe hide in
- 21:28Speaker 3: the in the storage under the seats, yeah, and then
- 21:33Speaker 3: get out.
- 21:34Speaker 2: Yeah, because Taylor, maybe maybe the Queen was under the
- 21:38Speaker 2: impression that Taylor knew how to fly the puddle jumper
- 21:40Speaker 2: and she's a wife, I can take over Taylor.
- 21:42Speaker 3: Or she just destroyed the drilling platform and everything and
- 21:45Speaker 3: then made it really sucks like everyone was suspicious of
- 21:48Speaker 3: Taylor and then they knew that the Wraith Queen was there.
- 21:50Speaker 3: When you just kind of play along.
- 21:52Speaker 2: Well, no, she was trying to, like she activated all
- 21:55Speaker 2: the force fields and stuff. I think she was trying
- 21:56Speaker 2: to isolate everybody in the station and to give her
- 22:00Speaker 2: like a clear line to the puddle Jumper.
- 22:03Speaker 3: Okay, and then but yeah, she needed kind of gave
- 22:05Speaker 3: herself away though I don't think she needed to do that. Yeah,
- 22:08Speaker 3: I think that.
- 22:09Speaker 2: I think the problem was when she instructed Taylor to
- 22:11Speaker 2: just like shooting.
- 22:12Speaker 3: Up probably kicking.
- 22:16Speaker 2: Well, no, that that brought us some time, that brought
- 22:18Speaker 2: her the time to go and activate.
- 22:19Speaker 3: It could have just slipped away, I feel.
- 22:21Speaker 2: But yeah, no, that's true. I suppose, but I guess,
- 22:25Speaker 2: you know, she's behind the curve. She's been asleep for
- 22:27Speaker 2: ten thousand years, so I guess she's behind the curve
- 22:30Speaker 2: and knowing who they are and what they are probably
- 22:31Speaker 2: would have taken her time to.
- 22:33Speaker 3: It's funny though, because Taylor's like calling them all by
- 22:36Speaker 3: their name, by their names as soon as she got
- 22:38Speaker 3: taken over, and yeah, we haven't seen that so far,
- 22:42Speaker 3: that a Wraith queen can do that.
- 22:44Speaker 2: Yeah, because you have to imagine too. It's like, I
- 22:46Speaker 2: guess it's that weird thing of like Wraith don't naturally
- 22:50Speaker 2: speak English, so you know, is she speaking and Taylor's
- 22:55Speaker 2: brain is naturally translating, or you know, is the queen
- 22:58Speaker 2: speaking English. I guess she'd know the queen later.
- 23:01Speaker 3: We've had that before where the Queen's like the queen
- 23:04Speaker 3: took over I think it was in the previously on
- 23:05Speaker 3: and Taylor's like, you're all going to die.
- 23:08Speaker 2: Well, no, that wasn't that wasn't a queen though. I
- 23:10Speaker 2: think this is the first time she's been that she's
- 23:11Speaker 2: been brained to brain with a queen. Last time it
- 23:14Speaker 2: was just a normal Wraith general guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 23:19Speaker 2: so because didn't she say this is the most powerful
- 23:21Speaker 2: mind or something which does a lot about this the
- 23:22Speaker 2: most powerful mind she's encountered, or yeah, hundred years old.
- 23:25Speaker 3: So yeah. That was the new part for me, was
- 23:28Speaker 3: that they could take over Taylor's mind, get her memories,
- 23:32Speaker 3: and use that to their advantage, which we hadn't seen.
- 23:35Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe it's a queen specific thing.
- 23:37Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, it was the only things we learned
- 23:40Speaker 1: after the fact, but I wish I'm like it, could
- 23:43Speaker 1: it be a protocol like if they come across race
- 23:46Speaker 1: across Wraith that they know have been dormant for so long,
- 23:49Speaker 1: which they didn't again until that was far too late
- 23:51Speaker 1: with this one, where they could you know, like this
- 23:54Speaker 1: one's been asleep essentially, she keeps waking up, but she's
- 23:57Speaker 1: by herself every thousand years or so, and then and
- 23:59Speaker 1: it goes back an hibernation.
- 24:01Speaker 2: Just does a fall like weird before I sleep to
- 24:04Speaker 2: check it gets gets the gets the cruiser.
- 24:07Speaker 1: Okay, sometimes that's the only way you can get to
- 24:09Speaker 1: a good sleep really quickly.
- 24:10Speaker 2: I mean, Raith cruises are organic in nature, so who
- 24:13Speaker 2: knows what they can you know, grow for her.
- 24:14Speaker 1: Exactly that you know they I'd like to see a
- 24:20Speaker 1: version of this where they put the spin on her
- 24:21Speaker 1: going they wake her up, you know, she wakes up like,
- 24:23Speaker 1: oh my god, Wow, wonderful to see you, and like
- 24:26Speaker 1: play out the fact that, oh, that war that ended
- 24:28Speaker 1: ten thousand years ago, we are the best of stuff
- 24:30Speaker 1: friends right now. You know that she wakes up, she's like,
- 24:32Speaker 1: I got a feet on you. It's like, oh no,
- 24:36Speaker 1: you can't say, you can't say, I'm so sorry. No,
- 24:39Speaker 1: you guys are vegan now, like Lisa Simpsons, you don't
- 24:45Speaker 1: need anything that casts a shadow anymore. Yeah, and just
- 24:49Speaker 1: to see what, you know, just see like I know
- 24:51Speaker 1: that they've already tried to, you know, pull the wool
- 24:53Speaker 1: over Michael's eyes, but I mean by you know, completely
- 24:58Speaker 1: erasing his former self and giving him in your persona,
- 25:00Speaker 1: so it was a little bit more invasive, but just
- 25:02Speaker 1: to try and.
- 25:03Speaker 2: Go, hey, this is wonderful.
- 25:04Speaker 1: And if they don't buy it, it's like, okay, cap
- 25:06Speaker 1: him in the head. But at least we tried before
- 25:08Speaker 1: they start murdering people. But she'd taken over Taylor before
- 25:11Speaker 1: they even knew that she was there, So that's a shame.
- 25:14Speaker 3: I like to the start how Taylor said shotgun to Rodney.
- 25:19Speaker 2: Shotgun is it? Come on?
- 25:24Speaker 3: I just found it nice that she was kind of
- 25:26Speaker 3: learning earth lingo and then also not talking year old English.
- 25:31Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 25:32Speaker 3: Yeah, and she was just like felt that more.
- 25:34Speaker 2: Now just get me out of the back of this
- 25:36Speaker 2: job with Harley's Nerds. Shotgun is it? Yeah, yeah, get
- 25:39Speaker 2: back there with your team. Yeah, you're the science guy.
- 25:42Speaker 2: You go back there and deal with your team people.
- 25:46Speaker 2: And it was yeah, don't, don't. Don't put the dark
- 25:49Speaker 2: skin girl on the back of the bus.
- 25:50Speaker 1: Mate, And it would be such a mackay and he'd be,
- 25:54Speaker 1: what are you a child? She's coming with his shotgun.
- 25:57Speaker 2: He's like, god, damn it, you used to see gun.
- 26:00Speaker 1: I have to go back. But I like that as
- 26:02Speaker 1: like full of himself and as as much as he
- 26:05Speaker 1: doesn't like to take responsibility for his own miss Like
- 26:07Speaker 1: in the moment, it had obviously been going on that
- 26:09Speaker 1: long that when he went into the back and they're like,
- 26:12Speaker 1: doctor McKay's like, oh, I only said I knew where
- 26:14Speaker 1: it last was.
- 26:15Speaker 2: I don't know where it is.
- 26:16Speaker 1: Shut up, And I'm like, oh, this has been going
- 26:18Speaker 1: on for a long time, to the point where even
- 26:20Speaker 1: you know, you've probably meant, you've gone past the idea
- 26:23Speaker 1: that you can blame the ship. You've gone past the
- 26:25Speaker 1: idea where you know that everyone else can just sort
- 26:26Speaker 1: of like, we'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
- 26:28Speaker 1: You're actually having to start going yeah, okay, I might.
- 26:31Speaker 3: I guess that he was so confident that's why everybody came.
- 26:34Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe that's why we was there. We
- 26:37Speaker 1: wasn't gonna come. He's like, no, no, no, Elizabeth trus but
- 26:40Speaker 1: you want to see this.
- 26:41Speaker 2: It's amazing fun fact though, because of the way they
- 26:44Speaker 2: did that that opening thing and Elizabeth being on the
- 26:47Speaker 2: mission with us, I think it might be the first time.
- 26:50Speaker 2: I'm not too sure, but we don't see the interior
- 26:53Speaker 2: of Atlantis this entire episode. Yeah, Like it's just that
- 26:56Speaker 2: shot where we just see the external CGI shot and
- 26:58Speaker 2: then it just pans down into the water. So there's
- 27:00Speaker 2: actual no shots filmed on Atlantis this episode.
- 27:04Speaker 3: Actually, like enjoyed this episode. I feel like it's the
- 27:07Speaker 3: best episode of kind of any stargate that we've had
- 27:10Speaker 3: for a fair few weeks.
- 27:12Speaker 2: Yeah, I really like it. It's something I talked about
- 27:15Speaker 2: back in was it phantom not phantoms? The other one
- 27:18Speaker 2: I get confused with phantoms were the one with the flatgisalis.
- 27:23Speaker 2: I like this, Yeah, add that to your supercut. I
- 27:30Speaker 2: just I like the episodes. I guess in a way
- 27:33Speaker 2: it's and given that you know nothing was filmed on
- 27:35Speaker 2: it's almost like the Lands equivalent of a Joe and
- 27:37Speaker 2: Paul episode. Like I like exploring the planet, like the
- 27:42Speaker 2: flagisalis element of it, this element of knowing that that
- 27:46Speaker 2: you know it's been down there this whole time, and
- 27:48Speaker 2: you know, no spoilers for Mitch, but this isn't the
- 27:50Speaker 2: last time we see the drilling platform. It is a
- 27:53Speaker 2: plot point in a future episode. So I like the
- 27:56Speaker 2: historyonics of it.
- 27:58Speaker 1: And they've got to be more out there, right are they.
- 28:00Speaker 3: Well we'll get to it's aersions on the mainland potatoes.
- 28:06Speaker 3: Yeah they do.
- 28:08Speaker 2: There is well you.
- 28:09Speaker 1: Grew a potato. We're drilling into the core.
- 28:12Speaker 2: There is a certain point where they make a choice
- 28:15Speaker 2: where we don't have these kind of storytelling options anymore.
- 28:19Speaker 2: I'm trying to get around it as much as I can.
- 28:22Speaker 2: But to me, I think that's a big loss for
- 28:24Speaker 2: the show for at least for me. Maybe that's why
- 28:26Speaker 2: I'm not a huge fan of like season five in particular,
- 28:29Speaker 2: because Yeah, I just feel like I like this kind
- 28:32Speaker 2: of stuff where we can get into the history of
- 28:35Speaker 2: the planet, like because it's it's it's this weird dichotomy
- 28:38Speaker 2: of like where we're living on this show in the
- 28:42Speaker 2: most futuristic sort of space age technology we could ever
- 28:45Speaker 2: possibly imagine, Like it's so much more advanced than anything
- 28:48Speaker 2: we've got on SG one, but it's a million years
- 28:52Speaker 2: old and it's and it's been abandoned for ten thousand years. Like,
- 28:56Speaker 2: So that's the part, and I think that's the at
- 28:59Speaker 2: the core of Starget SG one. That's the fun element
- 29:03Speaker 2: that I think we enjoy is that it's it's aliens
- 29:06Speaker 2: and spaceships and stuff like that ancient, but they're ancient
- 29:10Speaker 2: Egyptian pyramid spaceships, you know what I mean. It's that
- 29:13Speaker 2: dichotomy of those two things. So I think, yeah, moving forward,
- 29:17Speaker 2: when we can't explore things like the Flag of Sallus
- 29:20Speaker 2: the and the drilling platform anymore, I think it's a
- 29:24Speaker 2: loss for the show. And that's why I really really
- 29:26Speaker 2: like this episode.
- 29:27Speaker 3: If they had, Yeah, if there was more ancient things
- 29:33Speaker 3: they could yeah, I feel like feel like they go
- 29:36Speaker 3: around this galaxy and there's not much ancient tech or
- 29:40Speaker 3: architecture any Yeah, and I.
- 29:41Speaker 2: Feel like moving forward, all the mysteries from now on
- 29:44Speaker 2: are like just limited to the city, Like we just
- 29:46Speaker 2: keep finding these rooms, Like we've been here for three
- 29:49Speaker 2: years now, and somehow we still haven't explored the entire
- 29:52Speaker 2: city yet.
- 29:53Speaker 3: Especially when they can literally bring anyone over now.
- 29:57Speaker 2: Yeah, and we have the transporters that you can can
- 29:59Speaker 2: bring it thousand people and it's like you have to
- 30:01Speaker 2: walk from one side of the city to the other.
- 30:03Speaker 2: You can jump in in the transporters and just go Okay. Well,
- 30:06Speaker 2: for the next three months, we're exploring just the East
- 30:09Speaker 2: Pier and that's it. We're all just all hands on deck.
- 30:12Speaker 2: We're just exploring the East Pier because it's not even
- 30:14Speaker 2: like like season one, it was, no, we have to
- 30:18Speaker 2: get out and make allies and find ZPMs zedpms to
- 30:22Speaker 2: protect ourselves, and now it's like, well we have we
- 30:25Speaker 2: have a ZZPM to protect our cells. I mean, it's yeah,
- 30:28Speaker 2: it's down to it's getting pretty low after Rogers sort
- 30:31Speaker 2: of screwed us over. But it's like we have a
- 30:33Speaker 2: couple that we you know, and we've got the Deadalists,
- 30:35Speaker 2: and we can dial Earth when we need to, and
- 30:37Speaker 2: we've got the Midway station. So it's like, I know,
- 30:40Speaker 2: it's probably not going to make us good TV, but
- 30:42Speaker 2: I think because these shows are written so well and
- 30:45Speaker 2: we feel like it's the real world, that's I think
- 30:47Speaker 2: that's why we get critical of it and go, oh,
- 30:50Speaker 2: why are they just doing this?
- 30:51Speaker 3: This makes so much sense, So I feel like they
- 30:55Speaker 3: should just have the dead List, not really ferrying things anymore,
- 30:59Speaker 3: and just be in Atlantis as like this is our
- 31:03Speaker 3: galactic ship for Pegasus, and then they can just go
- 31:06Speaker 3: back and forth through the through the bridge or use
- 31:09Speaker 3: y use the zen PM from the Odyssey in the SGC.
- 31:15Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, it's also like, well, we've got a whole
- 31:18Speaker 2: garage full of jumpers, so it's like we don't have
- 31:21Speaker 2: to have one jumper just farying back and forward through
- 31:23Speaker 2: Midway for supplies. We could have half a dozen and
- 31:27Speaker 2: it's just these And it's a good way to train
- 31:29Speaker 2: up pilots as well, because there is a future episode
- 31:31Speaker 2: where we need a bunch of pilots at once, and
- 31:34Speaker 2: they're all absolutely acoustic when it comes to trying to
- 31:38Speaker 2: fly a ship, and it's like, well, here would be
- 31:40Speaker 2: a great thing if you had to just be like, okay,
- 31:41Speaker 2: what's your job to you know, fly the fly the
- 31:44Speaker 2: jumper to and from Earth through Midway and get supplies. Yeah.
- 31:49Speaker 3: I mean I feel like they should just be populating
- 31:51Speaker 3: this entire city.
- 31:52Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, even just the idea that. I mean, again,
- 31:55Speaker 1: I don't know how far they get, but we keep
- 31:56Speaker 1: talking about how big it is and it's and every
- 31:59Speaker 1: couple of episodes they'll talk about the fact that there's
- 32:01Speaker 1: a place that they haven't explored yet and how much
- 32:03Speaker 1: of the city they don't know about just bringing in
- 32:06Speaker 1: research teams, it's like, hey, you're going to go over there.
- 32:08Speaker 1: It's like you're a fly and fly out worker. You're
- 32:12Speaker 1: going to come in for a time.
- 32:13Speaker 2: God f folded lanterns. That would be amazing.
- 32:16Speaker 1: You're coming in for a week and we're going to
- 32:18Speaker 1: stick you on the farthest part of the city and
- 32:20Speaker 1: you're just going to map that area and then you're
- 32:22Speaker 1: back home, back home for a week. We don't have
- 32:25Speaker 1: the supplies to keep you on full time, but we're
- 32:27Speaker 1: just going to bring you in and you're essentially going
- 32:29Speaker 1: on a You bring your own supplies and we're just
- 32:31Speaker 1: going to ship you over there. We don't want nothing
- 32:33Speaker 1: to do with you. Give us a call if you're
- 32:35Speaker 1: get into trouble for whatever reason, but otherwise, feed yourselves whatever,
- 32:38Speaker 1: and we'll see in a week. And then we bring
- 32:41Speaker 1: in another team and that team has a week to
- 32:43Speaker 1: go home, recover whatever they need to do, but just
- 32:46Speaker 1: to start mapping out this.
- 32:47Speaker 2: So they're not making they're not making mistakes like Beckett
- 32:49Speaker 2: working a month straight. Yeah, oh what happens there? Speaking
- 32:53Speaker 2: of I forgot to mention in Sunday, I mentioned it
- 32:57Speaker 2: a couple of weeks earlier that Sunday wasn't the last
- 33:00Speaker 2: episode Paul mcgillian filmed. So the episode he was in
- 33:05Speaker 2: before Sunday, so he wasn't in the arc, I don't think,
- 33:08Speaker 2: so it would have been the game. He filmed the
- 33:10Speaker 2: game after Sunday, so they killed him wow, and then
- 33:13Speaker 2: brought him back to do the game or Tale Rodney,
- 33:16Speaker 2: whatever it was, whatever his last one was before that.
- 33:18Speaker 1: So I appreciate so much when I hear about productions,
- 33:21Speaker 1: film or TV. Where they film they don't have to
- 33:23Speaker 1: film the entire thing chronologically. I appreciate when I hear
- 33:27Speaker 1: that a production does. It's a smaller one where it's
- 33:30Speaker 1: easy to do it, but where you do have a
- 33:31Speaker 1: character film their final scene in the script as their
- 33:35Speaker 1: final scene on set, like I know pickups are going
- 33:38Speaker 1: to come, but that big sort of crescendo where they
- 33:40Speaker 1: say okay, ladies and gentlemen, Paul mcgillicardy is that's it'.
- 33:44Speaker 1: That's a wrap on doctor Beckett and everyone sort of
- 33:46Speaker 1: cheers when it's that moment where he's out in the
- 33:49Speaker 1: middle of the green stam yeah you know, yeah, a
- 33:51Speaker 1: we're going to see next week where you actually play
- 33:53Speaker 1: like very little importance in this story about a video
- 33:56Speaker 1: game that's gone bad.
- 33:59Speaker 2: I'll get it that one for this. But they did
- 34:00Speaker 2: that in the Next Generation back in season one when
- 34:03Speaker 2: they killed off a main character. They killed off like
- 34:05Speaker 2: three quarters of the way through the first season, but
- 34:07Speaker 2: they didn't make it her last episode. So if you
- 34:09Speaker 2: look at the previous episode before her characters killed, there's
- 34:13Speaker 2: like Patrick Stewart and Gainst macfadden like walking out of
- 34:15Speaker 2: the cargo bay and this characters in the far far background,
- 34:18Speaker 2: just like doing busy work and blinket you'll miss it
- 34:21Speaker 2: as like the cargo bay doors close, you see her
- 34:23Speaker 2: just turn, look directly at the camera and go and
- 34:25Speaker 2: just wave and smile because that was her last scene
- 34:28Speaker 2: she ever filmed, because she had already filmed this episode
- 34:30Speaker 2: where she dies, and it was like eighty nine or
- 34:33Speaker 2: whatever it was, so no one noticed it until like
- 34:35Speaker 2: after it was broadcast.
- 34:36Speaker 3: Wow, it's incredible and your eighty six inch screen, Yeah,
- 34:40Speaker 3: I see that what.
- 34:43Speaker 1: You asked for.
- 34:43Speaker 2: An otherwise, that's fine.
- 34:44Speaker 1: I feel like that's like a soft one because like
- 34:47Speaker 1: it's a it's a record so hard.
- 34:52Speaker 2: I'll take it that we're getting towards the end anyway,
- 34:54Speaker 2: so I'll take it that too. Because there was also
- 34:56Speaker 2: the force fields, like the little force fields in the
- 34:59Speaker 2: corridors direct ripoff from Deep Space nine and the way
- 35:06Speaker 2: they have like.
- 35:07Speaker 3: The rip off from Stargate, the no the.
- 35:09Speaker 2: Bars down the side, and the way they move in
- 35:11Speaker 2: the corridor direct rip off. And then also, uh, we'll
- 35:19Speaker 2: get to that when when was the steep Space nine
- 35:21Speaker 2: episode ninety two. Yeah, it was like it was like
- 35:25Speaker 2: a recurring CG effect that they used. But also in
- 35:29Speaker 2: Deep Space nine, they had the Defiant, which was their ship,
- 35:32Speaker 2: and it was this little like tight ship and in
- 35:35Speaker 2: the crew quarters there was like bunk beds everywhere, and
- 35:38Speaker 2: the bunk beds in this in the in the drilling
- 35:40Speaker 2: platform very much remind me of the Defiant as well.
- 35:43Speaker 2: So that's that's my rant on Star Trek. But yeah,
- 35:49Speaker 2: the cellophane I heard in the audio commentary they brought
- 35:53Speaker 2: that gag back for this, and Jason mcmill actually did
- 35:56Speaker 2: run into a wall of cellophane for when he did
- 35:59Speaker 2: his been running into it.
- 36:01Speaker 1: Held in there for a while too. I expected to
- 36:03Speaker 1: be more of like a bounce off effect, but he
- 36:05Speaker 1: sort of got stuck there for.
- 36:06Speaker 2: A little while.
- 36:07Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, kind of like one of those things.
- 36:09Speaker 3: It would have been better as a snap back, like
- 36:11Speaker 3: you see it if they cut a couple of frames earlier.
- 36:14Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of like he was almost acting like it
- 36:16Speaker 2: was like electrocuting him as well at the same time,
- 36:18Speaker 2: whereas like, yeah, Jack just kind of bounced off and
- 36:20Speaker 2: it was yeah, yeah, there wasn't at a punitive element
- 36:24Speaker 2: to it. The airlock though, So in the shots where
- 36:29Speaker 2: John's approaching the puddle jumper and you see like the
- 36:33Speaker 2: puddle jumpers like docked in the in the little anus
- 36:37Speaker 2: of the of the dock, of the drill, of the
- 36:43Speaker 2: drill platform. That was all a CGI extension. So it
- 36:47Speaker 2: was just normal, you know how when we normally go
- 36:49Speaker 2: into the garage in Atlantis and there's just a jumper
- 36:51Speaker 2: sitting there and we just walk around it. It was
- 36:54Speaker 2: that and the actual wall with the with the noose
- 36:56Speaker 2: and all that kind of stuff was all just CGI. Yeah,
- 37:00Speaker 2: it's pretty cool. Yeah, just like seeing the inside of
- 37:02Speaker 2: the drilling platform on that little hole that the that
- 37:04Speaker 2: the jumper was sitting in was all just like a
- 37:06Speaker 2: c go MAAT extension.
- 37:07Speaker 3: Don't you reckon. It was weird that she was Like
- 37:10Speaker 3: when Ronan missed and hit the glass, she got knocked out,
- 37:13Speaker 3: and those two didn't like she's a wraith and she just.
- 37:17Speaker 2: Fed and they were and she was further away like
- 37:20Speaker 2: oh no, I guess she was in the middle. She
- 37:23Speaker 2: was in between them, and then she got knocked further
- 37:25Speaker 2: away and then yeah, she was the last one to
- 37:28Speaker 2: wait us. Yeah that's interesting.
- 37:31Speaker 1: Maybe off the back of being uber pressurized you know,
- 37:35Speaker 1: in her swim, but like you said, she just fed, so.
- 37:37Speaker 3: She probably would have fed on two people. Yeah, there
- 37:40Speaker 3: was well we'll never know Graydon with the d and
- 37:43Speaker 3: Dickinson with.
- 37:45Speaker 2: Well, like I said, we never found we never found
- 37:47Speaker 2: one of them, so I found Dickinson. Yeah, so she
- 37:50Speaker 2: just devoured that dick Andson. Funny though, I saw some trivia.
- 37:56Speaker 2: This is the first time we've had like race as
- 38:00Speaker 2: like the main jeopardy of an episode since Satita, like
- 38:04Speaker 2: fourteen episodes ago. Yeah.
- 38:06Speaker 3: Yeah, and the.
- 38:09Speaker 2: Episode yeah, because the only the only other wraith we've
- 38:12Speaker 2: seen in the middle of that was the Collier episode
- 38:15Speaker 2: Common Ground where where John John was being held with
- 38:19Speaker 2: his wraith buddy. But yeah, it's kind of wild to
- 38:22Speaker 2: think that. Yeah, it's been like fourteen episodes since we've
- 38:25Speaker 2: had like a wraith as like the main and that
- 38:27Speaker 2: was like that stupid bald uber uber wraith guy that
- 38:31Speaker 2: was hunting Ronan on Satita.
- 38:33Speaker 3: Is like an orc.
- 38:34Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So it's wild to think it's been that
- 38:38Speaker 2: long since we've had wraith as a as a threat, and.
- 38:42Speaker 3: This one's been like sleeping over there. They've done that
- 38:44Speaker 3: in SG one too, like where are the Ari? M Yeah,
- 38:46Speaker 3: I mean I know we're supposed to have killed the
- 38:49Speaker 3: Ari in the screen that we don't we're not sure
- 38:53Speaker 3: if that is or not happened.
- 38:55Speaker 2: I mean, we'll we'll talk about it next week. But
- 38:57Speaker 2: it's the first time we've seen a Tokra in like two.
- 38:59Speaker 3: Years, right, Yeah, they bring that back.
- 39:03Speaker 2: It's wild. Yeah.
- 39:04Speaker 1: I feel like we we had patches throughout the first
- 39:08Speaker 1: eight seasons of SG one where we wouldn't focus on
- 39:12Speaker 1: the on the gold, but our cad called, yeah, no,
- 39:17Speaker 1: I'm I keep the gold. I keep trying to get there,
- 39:20Speaker 1: and I ended up being stuck in the middle. But
- 39:24Speaker 1: that show was like, Hey, the gold out there there there,
- 39:26Speaker 1: there's a lot of them, uh, and that's a lot
- 39:29Speaker 1: of our focus. But there's also a lot of other
- 39:30Speaker 1: stuff going on. When you get to season nine and
- 39:33Speaker 1: ten and it's like the are the only thing we're
- 39:35Speaker 1: concerned about, and they really ran that home. But then
- 39:38Speaker 1: they just keep forgetting that they're even there and forgetting
- 39:42Speaker 1: about mentioning them. At least, I feel like in an
- 39:44Speaker 1: episode of SG one where you're not going to focus
- 39:46Speaker 1: on the gold and there's some other thing you know
- 39:48Speaker 1: that they're they'll still bring them up.
- 39:50Speaker 2: There might be a reference till.
- 39:51Speaker 3: They'll be finding more information. A lot yes, so we've
- 39:54Speaker 3: we've thought that gold were parasites and this kind of
- 39:56Speaker 3: proves it, like this little tiny technology, Yeah, which is cool.
- 40:00Speaker 2: World building, stiff Brendan, can you add in post? Can
- 40:03Speaker 2: you add in your super cut the part were mister
- 40:04Speaker 2: said ram at home?
- 40:05Speaker 3: Did you just add that in?
- 40:08Speaker 2: I didn't hear a word we've said after the Home was.
- 40:11Speaker 1: Just racing, running through a possibility visuals. Whereas yeah, this
- 40:15Speaker 1: show when it when it started and I realized there's
- 40:18Speaker 1: going to be a Wraith, I'm like, oh, yeah, that's right,
- 40:19Speaker 1: they're part of this show. Like hmm, it feels it
- 40:22Speaker 1: didn't really feel like we just and it.
- 40:24Speaker 3: Was so good. Yeah, it was good.
- 40:26Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I really need to watch it
- 40:28Speaker 1: again because of that sort of assumption that it was
- 40:32Speaker 1: called submersion. Oh look we're already underwater. I'll look, there's
- 40:36Speaker 1: going to be a problem. Yeah it wasn't, but I
- 40:38Speaker 1: figured that's where.
- 40:39Speaker 2: We were going.
- 40:39Speaker 1: But it just had more people and I was not bored.
- 40:43Speaker 3: But I was like, okay, it's do you reckon the
- 40:45Speaker 3: Iowa would have had a problem with this mission report.
- 40:48Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like they would. I feel like you
- 40:51Speaker 2: a bundle jump I feel like in a week or
- 40:53Speaker 2: two weeks to get an answer to.
- 40:54Speaker 1: That, you were bringing your best people. What I think
- 40:59Speaker 1: down underneath.
- 40:59Speaker 2: The no see what I think the ioways you're trying
- 41:02Speaker 2: to blame it. I'm weird. I know you are, Brendan,
- 41:04Speaker 2: But I think what the Eoway is going to have
- 41:06Speaker 2: the most problem with is on the Wraith Cruiser. Once
- 41:11Speaker 2: McKay and Shepherd do the little switcheroo like and I
- 41:14Speaker 2: did love the fact that Taylor was able to play
- 41:16Speaker 2: the queen and all that kind of stuff with some
- 41:17Speaker 2: false memories, but they just like and again we'd add
- 41:20Speaker 2: this to the zuper cut. They unload on her with
- 41:23Speaker 2: like all of their weapons.
- 41:25Speaker 3: It's gonna blow. Yeah, I cut out so many.
- 41:28Speaker 2: I'm surprised. I'm surprised you didn't leave. In the part
- 41:31Speaker 2: at the end, which is the part that I had
- 41:32Speaker 2: the problem with, is where Rodney goes she's dead, right,
- 41:35Speaker 2: and then and then John just goes, let's get out
- 41:40Speaker 2: of here. Like they don't even confirm the double tap. Yes,
- 41:43Speaker 2: a couple like just empty empty the clip like like
- 41:47Speaker 2: can sever the head put it?
- 41:49Speaker 3: Yeah, cut her head off like she's survived ten thousand
- 41:52Speaker 3: years feeding like just sleeping.
- 41:54Speaker 2: Yeah, and she just fed. Yeah, she fared like a
- 41:57Speaker 2: couple of hours ago.
- 41:59Speaker 3: Hungry would that bitch bee?
- 42:02Speaker 2: Oh she was hungry for that.
- 42:03Speaker 4: D y.
- 42:05Speaker 1: What have we learned the past about them like going
- 42:09Speaker 1: cannibal style, like where they eat their own it's obviously not.
- 42:12Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a line in this where she yes,
- 42:14Speaker 2: she went on it.
- 42:15Speaker 1: She yeah, she fed on her own crew just to
- 42:18Speaker 1: get herself through. But we like, we know that that's
- 42:21Speaker 1: not as.
- 42:24Speaker 3: Survival.
- 42:24Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's equivalent of us like having to
- 42:26Speaker 2: survive for ten thousand years on Brussels sprouts, Like we
- 42:29Speaker 2: could do it, but you're not going to be happy
- 42:31Speaker 2: about it, and you're going to be craving something better.
- 42:33Speaker 2: It's like that.
- 42:33Speaker 3: Movie Alive where they crash in chili or whatever it
- 42:36Speaker 3: is eat each other.
- 42:38Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean their body. Yeah. I was gonna say,
- 42:42Speaker 2: where are you if you're watching them on the hub,
- 42:44Speaker 2: They're they're eating each other in a very very way.
- 42:47Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Get me awake.
- 42:49Speaker 2: They're still losing limbs, if you know what I mean.
- 42:52Speaker 1: Disappearing.
- 42:52Speaker 3: Yeah, they just they're disappearing. They brought up the abyss.
- 42:56Speaker 3: Has anyone seen that?
- 42:57Speaker 1: Oh, no, no, and like it wasn't even like they
- 43:01Speaker 1: mentioned it once. There was a couple of mentions of it,
- 43:03Speaker 1: and then no, sooner had I had. I watched it
- 43:06Speaker 1: and I was seeing like that it was its thirty
- 43:09Speaker 1: fifth anniversary, only a couple of weeks ago, so I
- 43:12Speaker 1: would like because the fact that it's a Cameron film.
- 43:14Speaker 3: And we're supposed to be yeah, outrageous.
- 43:18Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, well, it's funny, and it's funny that
- 43:20Speaker 2: it's a writtle bit of trivia. Like it's funny that
- 43:22Speaker 2: it's a it's a Cameron film because next Atlantis episode
- 43:26Speaker 2: they're basically just ripping off Alien. Yeah.
- 43:29Speaker 3: Yeah, of the week.
- 43:31Speaker 2: But yeah, no, I haven't seen I't seen Abyss. I
- 43:33Speaker 2: don't think I think I've seen Abyss.
- 43:36Speaker 1: I always think about it being older, but then when
- 43:38Speaker 1: I saw it was the thirty fifth anniversar, and I'm
- 43:40Speaker 1: like eighty nine, So he did that between I guess
- 43:43Speaker 1: Aliens the Terminator was eighty four, Aliens was eighty six
- 43:47Speaker 1: or seven, and then he would have had the Abyss
- 43:50Speaker 1: and then Judgment Day was ninety two one, I think
- 43:55Speaker 1: ninety one set in ninety four, and then in ninety
- 43:57Speaker 1: four True Lies like you look at Cameron, he has
- 43:59Speaker 1: not got a lot of films on his lip. Like
- 44:01Speaker 1: we had Titanic in ninety seven, and then he didn't
- 44:03Speaker 1: do anything until Avatar in two thousand and nine, and
- 44:05Speaker 1: then nothing again until twenty twenty two with Avatar too. Like,
- 44:08Speaker 1: he's not got a lot of movies on his resume.
- 44:10Speaker 1: But you know, I can make.
- 44:12Speaker 3: A Block'd rather be deep sea diving. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 44:15Speaker 3: I think that's where his passion is. It just seems
- 44:18Speaker 3: to be one of the best movie makers of all time. Yeah,
- 44:21Speaker 3: I do that as a hobby on.
- 44:23Speaker 1: Midway through spending three hundred million dollars of Disney's money.
- 44:26Speaker 1: But if you don't mind, I'm just going to go
- 44:28Speaker 1: by myself in a thing that I kind of helped
- 44:30Speaker 1: invent and go to the bottom of the deepest part
- 44:32Speaker 1: of the ocean and hope that I don't die. So
- 44:35Speaker 1: you can't write this thing, officer and ensure exclaim like
- 44:37Speaker 1: it'll be fine, right, you know.
- 44:38Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a psycho, but I love like wrote and
- 44:43Speaker 2: directed the Abyss. Wo oh my god. Michael Beach is
- 44:47Speaker 2: in it. That's incredible. We'll talk about that. In First Strike.
- 44:52Speaker 2: There's literally there's a new character that's introduced in the
- 44:57Speaker 2: final episode of this season of Atlantis, played by Michael Beach,
- 45:00Speaker 2: and Michael Beach was in the abyss.
- 45:01Speaker 1: Jamie, Michael Beach, I think I know who you're talking about. No,
- 45:04Speaker 1: I was thinking to someone.
- 45:05Speaker 2: Else, that's incredible. I wonder if that's how that's how
- 45:09Speaker 2: they got him is because he saw this and went
- 45:11Speaker 2: all right, I'll come and work on your stupid little.
- 45:12Speaker 3: Show, don't you reckon. We've had this ruse thing before
- 45:16Speaker 3: where we kind of trick people into believing. Actually, it's
- 45:20Speaker 3: kind of like three in a row episodes if you're
- 45:22Speaker 3: looking ahead back back when we had the replicators and
- 45:27Speaker 3: Richard Woolsey was there, Colonel O'Neil. Oh, Yeah, when they
- 45:31Speaker 3: kind of planted that fake, fake memory, fake plan into
- 45:33Speaker 3: Woolsey so the replicators could suck it out of his
- 45:36Speaker 3: brain and we could put throw the wool over their eyes.
- 45:39Speaker 2: Sucked his brains out. I believe it's the technology we coined.
- 45:42Speaker 3: And this time they do it with this guy. I
- 45:45Speaker 3: feel like they do it next week in SG one.
- 45:48Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 45:49Speaker 3: Right, it's like hello, Yeah, I felt like that.
- 45:52Speaker 2: I was, well, they've only got about five writers between
- 45:54Speaker 2: these two at this point, and they're all the same nerds,
- 45:56Speaker 2: so it makes sense.
- 45:59Speaker 1: Brope Adam Beach is who I was thinking about.
- 46:01Speaker 3: That guy, he's very I was thinking about beaches.
- 46:10Speaker 2: That was the beach.
- 46:11Speaker 1: Sorry, that was the beach.
- 46:12Speaker 4: I'm talking about barberstro Yeah, beaches, the same thing, similar noses.
- 46:20Speaker 4: I think that's just one of the most very Italian
- 46:26Speaker 4: you've ever said.
- 46:30Speaker 3: Good times.
- 46:34Speaker 2: Let's get out of it.
- 46:36Speaker 1: All right, episode sixty one of Get Into GATESG sixty two.
- 46:41Speaker 2: You said it the next week.
- 46:42Speaker 1: Sorry, yep, I'm looking at what was the last thing
- 46:44Speaker 1: we recorded sixty two.
- 46:47Speaker 2: We'll be back next.
- 46:48Speaker 1: Week for two hundred sixty three with s G one
- 46:51Speaker 1: Dominion the my favorite word penultimate episode of Stargate SG one.
- 47:00Speaker 2: I mean Will is your favorite child because he's your
- 47:03Speaker 2: penultimate child, or if I just made him your favorite
- 47:06Speaker 2: child by saying you know about it?
- 47:07Speaker 1: I mean when I like he, I didn't know that
- 47:11Speaker 1: he was going. I guess when you're watching TV, you
- 47:13Speaker 1: kind of know when you're getting a penultimate I didn't know.
- 47:15Speaker 1: I mean, you know, for the longest time we thought
- 47:17Speaker 1: he was the final chart and then he turned into
- 47:19Speaker 1: the penultimate child. But yeah, what's up buddy today?
- 47:23Speaker 2: He's watching Yeah, your Own Family Tree.
- 47:28Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe they go the HBO route, start at SG
- 47:31Speaker 1: one and they just go all out with a bang
- 47:34Speaker 1: in their penultimate episode and then just like chill out
- 47:36Speaker 1: a little bit in the and the finale, except that
- 47:38Speaker 1: we know that they don't. Finale is great and I
- 47:41Speaker 1: have no memory of dominion, so.
- 47:44Speaker 3: Okay, yeah me neither. I fucking forgot.
- 47:47Speaker 2: Oh no, it's a good one.
- 47:48Speaker 1: I love it, okay, And I'll be back next week
- 47:50Speaker 1: to to do that. Do it, same time, same channel,
- 47:54Speaker 1: like subscribe and you.
- 47:55Speaker 2: Know, same same childish sex jokes. Yes, oh my god,
- 48:00Speaker 2: but maybe more.
- 48:01Speaker 3: There'll be more.
- 48:02Speaker 2: I hope there won't.
- 48:04Speaker 1: Wait adreason next week isn't ye
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