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Randy And The Mob Plus The Accountant One DVD From Actor Ray McKinnon · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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  Speaker 1: your exploration, Ray, I got to kick it off with
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  Speaker 1: one question here. Unless people have seen the movie, they're
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  Speaker 1: not gonna understand it. But when they see it, they're
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  Speaker 1: gonna go, oh my god, yes, yes, yes. And the
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  Speaker 1: question is do you like me? Because what when you
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  Speaker 1: put that inside that movie? That was the greatest break
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  Speaker 1: and twist in the show that it gave me that
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  Speaker 1: opportunity to have a laugh moment. And I just love
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  Speaker 1: that part of the movie.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, you're so sweet you that's amazing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know, thinking back, that's that's really what what Randy
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  Speaker 2: wanted to be, was like like most Yeah, so that
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  Speaker 2: that was a in a in a comedy, a comedic way,
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  Speaker 2: Randy is trying to become authentic, I suppose, well, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And the pacing of it, Ray, I mean, I mean
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  Speaker 1: when you're when you're talking about the comedic value and
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  Speaker 1: stuff like that. That pacing was just so spot on
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  Speaker 1: because a lot of people don't understand that. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it's like a piece of music. You've got to have
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  Speaker 1: pacing or people won't tune in or even even you
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  Speaker 1: don't even focus in on what's going on with the
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  Speaker 1: entire storyline.
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  Speaker 2: There is a rhythm, you know, a musicalizy to to writing.
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  Speaker 2: There's a musicality to performance, and yeah, you you need
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  Speaker 2: to find the rhythm of the of the story and
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  Speaker 2: of the film. And that's amazing that that you you
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  Speaker 2: felt that and that worked for you. You know, when
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  Speaker 2: you're making a film and from the right from the
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  Speaker 2: writing all the way to the post production, the editing,
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  Speaker 2: the final music, you're you're you're trying to make something
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  Speaker 2: that you would enjoy. You can't guess what the audience
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  Speaker 2: is going to enjoy whatever person, because we're all you know,
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  Speaker 2: there's no accounting for tastes, sir uh. And so you
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  Speaker 2: know that's what you do. And to have others respond
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  Speaker 2: to it in a in an affirmative way, and I
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  Speaker 2: get it way is immensely gratifying.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I was doing some research for iHeartRadio yesterday
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  Speaker 1: about you know, creativity and and you know, and trying
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  Speaker 1: to do things such as a movie or even writing
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  Speaker 1: in the way of how do you get the attention
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  Speaker 1: of that person who's going to tap in? And it
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  Speaker 1: says that you've got to disconnect and go into a
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  Speaker 1: moment of loneliness. Did you feel that doing the accountant
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  Speaker 1: as well as uh, you know, Randy and and you know,
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  Speaker 1: and in the storyline, because it felt like that you
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  Speaker 1: were so genuine with us as viewers that you personally
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  Speaker 1: had to have gone through it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I think. Yeah. I mean, I write
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  Speaker 2: very much from emotional slash psychological. You know, I'm just
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  Speaker 2: working through all my stuff.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 2: I say that I made a television show called Rectorfi
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  Speaker 2: and it's about man woman child search for meaning. And
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  Speaker 2: ultimately all my stories are really about in some ways
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  Speaker 2: about man, woman child's search for me, you know, as
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  Speaker 2: we're as I'm searching for meaning in my life on
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  Speaker 2: a daily basis. So yeah, I felt I felt the
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  Speaker 2: things Randy felt, I felt the things Cecil felt, I
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  Speaker 2: felt the things Tino felt, you know, and and you know,
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  Speaker 2: people my mother and my sisters and my wife and
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  Speaker 2: everybody has to listen to me playing all these characters
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  Speaker 2: until finally somebody else gets to play them. So, you
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  Speaker 2: know you.
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  Speaker 1: Brought up Randy and Cecil. What was that like to
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  Speaker 1: play both of those parts in because once, I just
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  Speaker 1: I got to tell you something. The second that I
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  Speaker 1: went into the movie and I saw both roles, I went,
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  Speaker 1: wait a second, Wait a second, and I go, Randy
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  Speaker 1: and Cecil are the same person. Oh my god. And
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  Speaker 1: of course I have to go to IMDb. I've got
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  Speaker 1: to go and do the research because I put it
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  Speaker 1: on pause because I don't watch trailers because I want
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  Speaker 1: to be able to experience it in the movie and
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  Speaker 1: have the shockun awe of a movie. And that was
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  Speaker 1: a shock and awe moment for me when I'm going,
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  Speaker 1: holy crap, it's the same dude.
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  Speaker 2: That's awesome. Brother. You know, don't I don't watch trailers either.
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  Speaker 2: I don't like to read about a movie before I
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  Speaker 2: see it. I'm perfectly fine knowing nothing about the movie
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  Speaker 2: and even being surprised when somebody shows up, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like I'll George Clooney's in this. That's interesting. And yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean I don't even know what your question is now, but.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it was more of a statement in the way
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  Speaker 1: that you playing both of those roles. And the thing
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  Speaker 1: is that this is before AI technology. I mean, you
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  Speaker 1: got were spotless on this because I kept looking for
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  Speaker 1: the mess up. I kept looking for something that was
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  Speaker 1: going to say, oh, yeah, the oh that was a mirror,
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  Speaker 1: that was a green screen. I didn't spot that whatsoever.
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  Speaker 1: In watching this and experiencing this movie.
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  Speaker 2: That's awesome. Brother, Yeah, that was very much analog, low
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  Speaker 2: budget analog. And you know, you just you have to
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  Speaker 2: be prepared, You have to know where you're you know,
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  Speaker 2: you have to do your homework and see how these
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  Speaker 2: things can be accomplished technically. And uh, you know, we
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  Speaker 2: we had my wife Lisa BlimE, who plays my wife
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  Speaker 2: and played my wife in the movie, and and and
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  Speaker 2: uh Walton, who played Tino, were my partners, and they,
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  Speaker 2: you know, they were very much Walt played all the
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  Speaker 2: off camera stuff or when I was playing Cecil, he
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  Speaker 2: would play Ran, when I was playing Randy, he would
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  Speaker 2: play Cecil and and so you know, he he played
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  Speaker 2: it more the way I would play it. And so
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  Speaker 2: it just allowed me to suspend my disbelief, as one
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  Speaker 2: has to do in the imagination business and let go.
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  Speaker 2: And I think in approaching these characters in these first
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  Speaker 2: of all, you know, when I write, I think of
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  Speaker 2: them as real people, as three dimensional people, and you
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  Speaker 2: think about their psychology, how they were raised. I mean Cecil,
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  Speaker 2: who is gay and was born gay, but the egg split,
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  Speaker 2: one guy was straight, one guy was gay, and that's
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  Speaker 2: you know, that's a phenomenon that happens in biology. And
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  Speaker 2: Quite sixty Minutes did a segment on it years ago,
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  Speaker 2: and that was part of my inspiration with the story.
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  Speaker 2: But Cecil, if Cecil had moved to Atlanta instead of
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  Speaker 2: staying in his hometown, he would he would have been
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  Speaker 2: a different person. But he chose to stay in his hometown,
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  Speaker 2: and he chose to stay there because his mom is there,
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  Speaker 2: his grandmama. That's where he wants to stay in his village.
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  Speaker 2: And so that affects how he behaves and how he acts,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, and that goes into the building of
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  Speaker 2: that character. The thing about Randy psychologically, I felt like
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  Speaker 2: before Randy even knew Cecil was gay, or had society's
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  Speaker 2: condemnation or derision or whatever it is, made Randy become
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  Speaker 2: more self conscious about his relationship with his brother because
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  Speaker 2: he had a misguided understanding of what being a man is.
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  Speaker 2: That before that, Cecil was his ally, his best friend,
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  Speaker 2: and also the guy who helped Rand temper Randy because
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  Speaker 2: Randy was more impulsive. And also Cecil was smarter than Randy,
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  Speaker 2: and he advised Randy. And and so when they came
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  Speaker 2: you know, when I'm spoiling. But when they when they
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  Speaker 2: come back together, uh and and talk and have a
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  Speaker 2: real conversation. You see Randy relax because you do. He's
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  Speaker 2: his co pilot with him again, you know. And his
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  Speaker 2: his you know, his his rib his half a half
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  Speaker 2: an egg is back. And and so all that goes
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  Speaker 2: into how you're both creating the character but also trying
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  Speaker 2: to play the character.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you can see Cecil really come back to life
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  Speaker 1: and take a leadership role in the way as the
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  Speaker 1: movie goes on toward the end of the movie. And
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  Speaker 1: and the thing is is that and then because all
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden, you know your you're fans of both
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  Speaker 1: of them, and and it's like and then you go, okay,
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  Speaker 1: am I supposed to like one of them more than
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  Speaker 1: the other. I like them both. I gotta like them both.
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  Speaker 1: And but but the way that both characters are just
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  Speaker 1: evenly thrown to endo the story and they play out
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  Speaker 1: their roles. I mean with Cecil stepping up to the
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  Speaker 1: game toward the end. I mean, and you know what
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  Speaker 1: seeing it is without spoiling it, it is it really is.
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  Speaker 1: It really brings it together.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, that's awesome, brother, I love yeah, I love that
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  Speaker 2: about him. You know, I think of Castil as a
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  Speaker 2: as a living person, even bizarrely though I played him.
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  Speaker 2: But but yeah, he's he's the he's the guy. You know,
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  Speaker 2: he did step up and and that you know that
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  Speaker 2: again cuts through, uh, you know, stereotypes and roles we
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  Speaker 2: play and and I had a gay landlord, and and
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  Speaker 2: and he was the guy I would call Tom come
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  Speaker 2: fix the stuff that broke. And he was very handy,
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  Speaker 2: whereas I was so unhandy. I could play handy people
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  Speaker 2: on TV, but I could not be handy. So we're
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  Speaker 2: the opposite of, you know, the stereotypes.
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  Speaker 1: One of the things that you do inside this movie
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  Speaker 1: is is we we talked about the timing and everything,
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  Speaker 1: but you've got hooks, like we always think about hooks
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  Speaker 1: of songs in radio, and and the thing is that
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  Speaker 1: one of the hooks that really sticks out tunnel vision
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  Speaker 1: versus versus carpal tunnel vision and I I just I,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, I lost it when because you know,
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  Speaker 1: it comes in at you when you least expect it,
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  Speaker 1: and then when you finally piece it together in your
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  Speaker 1: own imagination, you lose it.
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  Speaker 2: That's awesome, body, that's all. Yeah. Randy has a little
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  Speaker 2: issue with uh, with words and malaprops, yeah, which I
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  Speaker 2: love is a I just love in general to play
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  Speaker 2: around with words and and uh and I love I
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  Speaker 2: love malapropisms and those that that partake and that particular dessert.
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  Speaker 3: Please do not move. There's more with actor Ray McKinnon
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  Speaker 3: coming up next. It's a DVD. It's got the Accountant
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  Speaker 3: as well as Randy and the Mob. We are back
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  Speaker 3: with actor Ray McKinnon.
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  Speaker 2: You have a.
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  Speaker 1: Running theme in this which is just absolutely brilliant writing
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  Speaker 1: and directing. And that running theme is is Randy always
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  Speaker 1: getting pulled over by the sheriff. Oh my god, I
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  Speaker 1: mean every time it was a yep, yep. That's that's
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  Speaker 1: the South for you.
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  Speaker 2: That's true, brother, that is totally you know, me doing
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  Speaker 2: my homework in my youth, UH made me living the part. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I love that. Yeah, that the stereotypical deputy. Yep. Never,
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  Speaker 2: you never can't quite get rid of him, and he
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  Speaker 2: shows up at the least expected places.
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  Speaker 1: But see, the thing is, though, is is that is
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  Speaker 1: ray that you that you continue it through the story,
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  Speaker 1: so it's not like a one time hit. You you
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  Speaker 1: continue it. And every time that we would see these
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  Speaker 1: characters come to life, all of a sudden, we were
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  Speaker 1: drawn back into the storyline because we were familiar with
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  Speaker 1: the audism or the craziness that was connected with that character.
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  Speaker 1: I mean even when when when you first introduced to Tino,
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  Speaker 1: you're going, Okay, let's we'll get we're gonna get into this.
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  Speaker 1: And then when you really get into story, now, now
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  Speaker 1: I got a third character I've got to really like.
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  Speaker 1: So I have to like Tino.
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  Speaker 2: Now what a buddy in do you have to You
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  Speaker 2: have to set aside your uh, your library of archetypes
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  Speaker 2: to grab a hold of Tino, because he is a
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  Speaker 2: he is a he is a one off. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 2: you that would challenge an audience, you know, because you're
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  Speaker 2: you're bringing in these archetypes, the southern archetype, you're bringing
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  Speaker 2: the the mobster archetypes with with the other guys. And
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  Speaker 2: when Tino shows up, he is a hybrid smashup of
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  Speaker 2: spectrum in it, spectrum of of culture, of all of
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  Speaker 2: that thing. And he takes a while for you to
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  Speaker 2: start to quote unquote understand. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And the thing is you talked about not leaving Mama
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  Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Well right away I'm thinking, well,
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  Speaker 1: that's real southernism, and and you and I'm here in
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  Speaker 1: the South. I'm here in Charlotte, so I know real southernism.
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  Speaker 1: And when I see something like that in a movie
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  Speaker 1: like this one Randy in the Mob, It's like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you nailed it when it comes to the South. I
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  Speaker 1: mean the accents, the the mannerisms, the questions, and I
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  Speaker 1: mean it's it's like, so, I mean, you do you
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  Speaker 1: live here in the South to know this or how
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  Speaker 1: is it that you were able to put all this together?
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  Speaker 2: Brother? I grew up in a small town in South
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  Speaker 2: Georgia near It Shows. That was my village, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And one of the reasons I became a screenwriter is
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  Speaker 2: because I'd seen so many versions of the South eptor
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  Speaker 2: were imitative and and not not authentic, and and you know,
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  Speaker 2: in some way is very degrading because it seemed like
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  Speaker 2: the Southern character was the last character on earth that
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  Speaker 2: that it was politically correct to be two dimensional. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so you know, so I wanted to to breathe a
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  Speaker 2: little uh, you know, more authenticity into it, like like
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  Speaker 2: Billy Bob did and sling Blade and some others have done.
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  Speaker 2: And so I'm glad that that it that it comes through.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you added a really good classic flavor to it.
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  Speaker 1: And that is when you added clogging in the gymnasium
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  Speaker 1: another moment where I just lost it when I saw it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's awesome, brother, Were you strong?
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  Speaker 3: Well?
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  Speaker 1: No, because even though I live here in the South,
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  Speaker 1: I still make fun of Southerners because because Southern people
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  Speaker 1: are very funny. And I think sometimes that Southern people
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  Speaker 1: do it because they know they're funny.
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  Speaker 2: Brother. They look that's the thing. You know. One of
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  Speaker 2: the things about badly made Southern films is the Southern
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  Speaker 2: character doesn't have a sense of humor. That's not true. Also,
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  Speaker 2: you know, southerns have great and southerns loved being made
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  Speaker 2: fun of if it's done with a you know, with
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  Speaker 2: a loving spirit light. I know people down here that
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  Speaker 2: just love old brother, wart Ow. They've seen it twenty
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  Speaker 2: times and they've never seen another Corn Brothers movie, but
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  Speaker 2: they love our brother We're down. That movie totally makes
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  Speaker 2: fun of Southerners, but it does in a not in
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  Speaker 2: a Maan spirited way. So true, so true.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, I mean when you say nons a
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  Speaker 1: mean way, I mean just the opening scene says that too.
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  Speaker 1: With the older gentleman. We could have easily said, come on,
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  Speaker 1: old man, or come on, you elderly person, speed up
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  Speaker 1: a bit, but my imagination said, I wish life was
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  Speaker 1: as slow as that man on that walker. And of course,
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  Speaker 1: how many people thought he was going to go through
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  Speaker 1: that front door. I don't want to spoil this, but
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  Speaker 1: it has to be talked about because I thought he
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  Speaker 1: was going for that front door in the opening scene.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's you know, absurdism lives in my heart and
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  Speaker 2: uh you know, you you see kids, kids understand absurdity
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  Speaker 2: way better than development, and I think, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it would be my goal to bring assert its back
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  Speaker 2: in a big way. So I think, you know, the
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  Speaker 2: idea that somebody's walking around this track and continues to
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  Speaker 2: do that forever is absurd and I love it.
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  Speaker 1: Do you find yourself in this binge watching day to
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  Speaker 1: want to bring back Cecil Randy Tino in the Gang A.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no, it's too hard. It's too I think that, Fela.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, one of the reasons in making this film,
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  Speaker 2: and I hopefully it feels like for you anyway it
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  Speaker 2: came through with the film was I made it a
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  Speaker 2: really dark what I call a hillbilly art film. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and there's not a huge demand for that genre,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, and uh, and I wanted to make
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  Speaker 2: something that was that was like an indie version of
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  Speaker 2: a Doris Day movie, like there was gonna be peril
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  Speaker 2: and danger, but we knew at the end all is well,
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  Speaker 2: that was going to end well. And I wanted that
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  Speaker 2: to be the vibe from the very beginning. And so
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  Speaker 2: you know, that's that's what I did. And and uh,
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  Speaker 2: and I wanted to have fun doing it and we
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  Speaker 2: had a blast, except you know, of course running down
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  Speaker 2: the landfill.
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  Speaker 1: But oh my god, Oh we can't spoil that one.
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  Speaker 1: But you're so right. It's like it's like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: when when is it? When is he gonna hit? When
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  Speaker 1: is he gonna hit? And the anticipation of him going
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  Speaker 1: into that landfield. I mean that that was perfect timing.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking about timing. That was timing boom and then
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  Speaker 1: it happens.
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  Speaker 2: Brother, I love that glory falls. Well, you know we
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  Speaker 2: not just this one's spoiling thing, but we had a
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  Speaker 2: stunt guy in the scut I did it, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: we looked at the you know, the replay and I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: there is I don't care how far wide you get,
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  Speaker 2: you're still not going to believe that that's me and
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  Speaker 2: that's Randy. And I said, I'm just gonna have to
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  Speaker 2: we can't use it. I'll just stick it up my
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  Speaker 2: wife from being there that day, and you know, you
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  Speaker 2: just go for it right.
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  Speaker 1: And speaking of timing, the timing of this DVD coming
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  Speaker 1: out with the Accountant as well as Randy the Mob
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  Speaker 1: is that, first of all, is that there are so
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  Speaker 1: many people from from New York and Ohio that are
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  Speaker 1: moving to the South.
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  Speaker 3: They need a movie like this.
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  Speaker 1: So it's going to help them understand the culture changes
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  Speaker 1: a lot, especially the language, and I think people will
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  Speaker 1: use it as a tool. And number the two time,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: the timing of this is that my wife and I
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: are guilty of this just because it's an older movie
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: and you've never seen it. That means it's brand new.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: If you've not seen either one of the I'm telling
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: you it's brand new, they've got to see it.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: That's awesome. Brother. Well, I didn't know if imagine going
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: to pick up on this, but it was partly a
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: how to movie, uh for for people movie? Well?
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because you because when I first came down from
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: Montana in eighty five, the first book that I ever
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: picked up was how to Speak Southern because I wanted
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: to know. I wanted to know what I was, because
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: you know, it's like it's I'm hard, you're what you're tard?
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: T a r D tard, tired?
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: You don't sleepy tard.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: You know, it's I have I have a theory that's
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: based on climate in the South. It's just too hot, yeah,
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: use too hot to use consonants. You know, it's just
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: who wants to hit t's and d's just drop them.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Just is a bunch of vowels.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: And where can people go to find out more about you?
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: There's no way your creativity is shut off. You're up
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: to something all the time.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: Dude. Well, I'm very lucky to you know, I had
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: people in school that said I would end up to
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: no good with you know, all my storytelling, and by golly,
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: people are paying me to tell stories. Now. Well, I'll
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: tell you. I'm playing my first gum shoe on a
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: reimagining of a television show called Prison and Break. Yes,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: that we'll start this summer, and and I think, for
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: maybe the first time in forty years of being you know,
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: plying this trade, I think I might actually get the girl.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Man, I can't realait. Well, we're definitely gonna be talking
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: when that comes out this summer then, because I definitely
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: want to break that down.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: That's awesome.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Brother, Will you be brilliant today, and please come back
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: to this show anytime if you're ever up here in Charlotte.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Let's get together for some southern fun.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Sounds good and go Hornets. Man. I'm a huge basketball
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: fan and I'm really enjoyed watching the Hornets come together.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Oh my god.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, we'll get together just to talk about the Hornets
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: the next time, then, brother, you'd be brilliant today, sir.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Thank you, sir. I appreciate it, appreciate your your work,
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: all right,