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- 0:05Speaker 1: Hey, welcome into another episode of Tiger Territory, part of
- 0:08Speaker 1: the Foul Territory Network, a Tiger's podcast. I am Karen
- 0:14Speaker 1: Steckley with me as always as Cody Stavenhagen, and back
- 0:16Speaker 1: for some more is mister Austin Jackson. As you guys know,
- 0:20Speaker 1: he's going to be a regular here at Tiger Territory. So, Austin,
- 0:24Speaker 1: thanks for not quitting on us. Uh, like, why we
- 0:26Speaker 1: didn't scare you the way or the fans did't scare
- 0:29Speaker 1: you away? I guess my first thing I want to
- 0:32Speaker 1: ask is, how's it feel to be officially now that
- 0:34Speaker 1: you're on podcast number two and you went on Our
- 0:36Speaker 1: Parents earlier this week?
- 0:37Speaker 2: How do it officially feel to be a member of
- 0:41Speaker 2: the media.
- 0:42Speaker 3: Hey, officially, officially it's an honor, you know. Now I
- 0:45Speaker 3: get it. Now I get to be on this side
- 0:47Speaker 3: talk a little talk, a little mess. I want to
- 0:51Speaker 3: see how that feels, you know. I don't know how
- 0:53Speaker 3: that feels. So we're gonna see if I can stir
- 0:56Speaker 3: up some drama. Now, I ain't got that about that.
- 1:00Speaker 4: Yeah, well, well we'll see what the season brings. For now,
- 1:03Speaker 4: thanks to everyone who sent in questions. We're gonna dive
- 1:06Speaker 4: into some more memories of Austin's career. I gotta say,
- 1:09Speaker 4: like four people sent like tell me about the catch
- 1:12Speaker 4: in the arm Undo Gallaragi game. Uh, So I put
- 1:15Speaker 4: that out there on Twitter. We already talked about that, guys.
- 1:18Speaker 4: It was in Austin's first episode. So if you didn't
- 1:20Speaker 4: catch that, go check out Austin's debut. He had a
- 1:23Speaker 4: great breakdown of the Galla Rogi game.
- 1:26Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:26Speaker 1: And uh and certainly, like Cody said, appreciate everybody with
- 1:30Speaker 1: the feedback a lot of As I told Austin when
- 1:34Speaker 1: when we first approached doing this podcast, it was like,
- 1:37Speaker 1: there's that we talked about last week, fond memories of
- 1:40Speaker 1: his era in Tigers baseball, and and right now people
- 1:45Speaker 1: are trying to, you know, anticipate another kind of fond
- 1:49Speaker 1: era of Tigers baseball.
- 1:51Speaker 2: So I was kind of curious Austin.
- 1:53Speaker 1: This this was not from the mailbag, but I think
- 1:55Speaker 1: it's fitting because we're sitting here, it's it's January eighth,
- 2:00Speaker 1: the countdown the spring training has kind of be gone
- 2:03Speaker 1: a little bit in people's mind, So I'm kind of.
- 2:06Speaker 2: Curious if you could kind of take us through what your.
- 2:08Speaker 1: Off season routine was you know, how did you kind
- 2:13Speaker 1: of divide it up, especially now like it's the new
- 2:15Speaker 1: year and spring training feels like closer and closer, you know,
- 2:18Speaker 1: kind of where did you want to want to be?
- 2:20Speaker 1: And and I guess also as a young man and
- 2:24Speaker 1: then as an older player, like was there any kind
- 2:27Speaker 1: of difference either what you did or what was expected
- 2:30Speaker 1: of you, you know, because the game was always evolving.
- 2:34Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, first of all, around this time it
- 2:36Speaker 3: is turn up time. There there was no more plan
- 2:38Speaker 3: at this at this time of the month. But you know,
- 2:42Speaker 3: my my off season routine, which you know, as I
- 2:47Speaker 3: got older, I realized I wish I would have switched
- 2:51Speaker 3: it up a little bit when I was younger, but
- 2:52Speaker 3: I didn't have to. I was just young, and you know,
- 2:54Speaker 3: I could just run around all day, didn't have to stretch,
- 2:56Speaker 3: And now that's just not possible. You get and get
- 2:59Speaker 3: a little old. But my off season routine, you know,
- 3:03Speaker 3: consisted of first getting it, getting a good break, and
- 3:06Speaker 3: that's that's what you know, I'll come back to, which
- 3:09Speaker 3: I you know, wish later that I would have switched
- 3:12Speaker 3: it up a little bit and started a little bit earlier.
- 3:14Speaker 3: But yeah, I would take a good little break. A
- 3:16Speaker 3: lot of times I would take a a trip that
- 3:18Speaker 3: was like the first thing I would do is you know,
- 3:20Speaker 3: take a trip, had a trip plan. You know. Obviously
- 3:24Speaker 3: with a lot of the teams that I played on
- 3:27Speaker 3: with the Tigers, you know, you had to you had
- 3:30Speaker 3: to schedule those trips a little bit later in the
- 3:32Speaker 3: year because we were going to the playoffs, like and
- 3:33Speaker 3: we knew it. But for me personally, as a hard gainer,
- 3:38Speaker 3: I couldn't gain any weight. So the off season for me,
- 3:41Speaker 3: I mean I would literally lose it all during the season.
- 3:44Speaker 3: So the off season was the time for me to
- 3:47Speaker 3: try to boke up, try to put on a little
- 3:48Speaker 3: muscle to sustain you know, a full season. And so
- 3:53Speaker 3: right away that was what I was doing. I would
- 3:56Speaker 3: like literally put myself on the eating program to try
- 3:59Speaker 3: to buke up, put some way back on the that
- 4:01Speaker 3: I lost, and try to get a little bit stronger. Obviously,
- 4:04Speaker 3: but you know, the weight routine training was was a
- 4:10Speaker 3: you know, a really big part of it. Speed was
- 4:13Speaker 3: my game. So speed training was something that I started
- 4:17Speaker 3: up right away. But back to the to the eating part,
- 4:21Speaker 3: you know, I it was since I was such a
- 4:23Speaker 3: hard gainer. I mean I was just literally, you know,
- 4:27Speaker 3: trying to get five thousand and six thousand calories down
- 4:30Speaker 3: and it just wasn't. You know, that's tough, brother, that
- 4:32Speaker 3: was tough, and I just still wasn't really you know,
- 4:36Speaker 3: I was just a greyhound bro like I could. I
- 4:38Speaker 3: could eat and run all day and it would just
- 4:40Speaker 3: run off, like I couldn't gain any weight. It happened
- 4:43Speaker 3: til I was done, and I was like, oh, okay,
- 4:45Speaker 3: maybe I shouldn't have been running. I couldn't. This is
- 4:47Speaker 3: how you do it, all right, Okay, but no, you know,
- 4:51Speaker 3: hitting and all the skill stuff. I would kind of
- 4:55Speaker 3: push back to probably December again another thing that I
- 4:59Speaker 3: wish I would have kind of honed in and and
- 5:01Speaker 3: started maybe at you know, maybe a little bit, just
- 5:05Speaker 3: just some light hitting and throwing, because you know that
- 5:08Speaker 3: after a season, everything's broke down. You're trying to build
- 5:10Speaker 3: everything back up. So you know, you think about three
- 5:14Speaker 3: months to build back up strength. I mean, yeah, that's
- 5:17Speaker 3: some time, but there's more time in the season to
- 5:20Speaker 3: break everything down and you know what I mean. So
- 5:24Speaker 3: but as the you know a lot of guy, well
- 5:27Speaker 3: at least me, I was looking at that calendar I
- 5:29Speaker 3: was looking at the clock all the time, like, okay,
- 5:32Speaker 3: here it is. It's November, all right, Oh I gotta
- 5:34Speaker 3: you know, I can get back into it. Oo December,
- 5:36Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, let me look at step constantly stepping
- 5:39Speaker 3: on the scale like, oh, that ain't gonna get it,
- 5:41Speaker 3: you know, another another ice cream shake at just just
- 5:46Speaker 3: about to throw up, try trying to gaze some weight
- 5:49Speaker 3: out here, like bro, that ain't you. That ain't your
- 5:52Speaker 3: body type. But I you know, come January though, that's
- 5:56Speaker 3: when you you know, you were you were pretty much
- 6:00Speaker 3: in that phase in the off season where you know,
- 6:03Speaker 3: you want to be somewhat you know, probably your strongest.
- 6:06Speaker 3: You're hitting, you're throwing all your skills stuff like you're
- 6:09Speaker 3: you're you're pretty much full full go with that stuff.
- 6:13Speaker 3: And I think everybody's at a different level, like you know,
- 6:15Speaker 3: obviously pitchers and position players are going to be a
- 6:17Speaker 3: different you know, different points in that you know, depending
- 6:22Speaker 3: on what you know, what the team requires out of them.
- 6:25Speaker 3: But for me, I was, you know, January was the
- 6:28Speaker 3: turn up time, Like that's where I wanted to be
- 6:30Speaker 3: kind of full go with my strength, with my skills training,
- 6:33Speaker 3: my skills training, and you know since I you know,
- 6:38Speaker 3: I got down to spring training a little early, not
- 6:40Speaker 3: too early, but a little early, and I wanted to
- 6:43Speaker 3: build up some type of routine where, you know, when
- 6:46Speaker 3: I was going into spring training, I was able to
- 6:48Speaker 3: maintain that from a routine standpoint, from a strength standpoint,
- 6:52Speaker 3: I wanted to really kind of continue doing what I
- 6:55Speaker 3: did essentially in the in the in the off season.
- 6:58Speaker 3: That that way, I was making sure that I could
- 7:00Speaker 3: maintain my weight, you know, for the season, because I
- 7:04Speaker 3: would lose it all spring training, Like I've gained ten
- 7:06Speaker 3: fifteen pounds, but the just rectrated. I was like into
- 7:10Speaker 3: the season weight again. Bro, it was It's crazy, man,
- 7:13Speaker 3: I had a hard time gaining weight. So that was like,
- 7:16Speaker 3: that was my focus.
- 7:17Speaker 4: So I'm pretty sure I've lost ten pounds just standing
- 7:21Speaker 4: around watching you guys in Lakeland. I can't imagine having
- 7:23Speaker 4: to actually run around under that sun and that humidity.
- 7:27Speaker 4: Oh yeah, but Austin, that does lead us right into
- 7:31Speaker 4: one of our our questions from one of our YouTube
- 7:34Speaker 4: viewers about a swing change you made between I believe
- 7:38Speaker 4: the twenty eleven and twenty twelve seasons. But real quick,
- 7:41Speaker 4: I want to tie this to something going on with
- 7:43Speaker 4: the current team, Like there are guys right now, I'm
- 7:45Speaker 4: sure trying to make adjustments. I talked to a couple
- 7:48Speaker 4: of people last week, Uh, Spencer Torklesen. You know, even
- 7:51Speaker 4: though col Keith is moving to first base, even though
- 7:53Speaker 4: twork is maybe looking on the outs right now, there's
- 7:56Speaker 4: a whole team of people working with this guy. Tigers
- 7:59Speaker 4: are focused on trying to improve his bat path, and
- 8:01Speaker 4: I think he's doing a lot of stuff in the
- 8:03Speaker 4: weight room to try to get his body to move
- 8:06Speaker 4: better so that he can take that into the box
- 8:08Speaker 4: and do the movements he wants to do. So you
- 8:11Speaker 4: just have some perspective on what goes into changing your
- 8:14Speaker 4: swing in the off season. The question was, can you
- 8:18Speaker 4: talk about your approach in the off season to change
- 8:20Speaker 4: your hitting, what Lloyd McClendon and others advised you to do,
- 8:24Speaker 4: and what routine you devise to get more successful at
- 8:27Speaker 4: seeing the ball. So any memories you have of that
- 8:30Speaker 4: tweak you made around that time in your.
- 8:31Speaker 3: Career, Yeah, I know twenty ten, you know, my first year,
- 8:36Speaker 3: I was just coming in there, just an athlete. I
- 8:38Speaker 3: just seatball, hit ball like no joke, like there was
- 8:43Speaker 3: We tried things and it was just like, dude, this
- 8:45Speaker 3: is I'm just gonna out athletic everything. You know, I'm
- 8:49Speaker 3: just young and I'm fire, I'm springy, and you know,
- 8:52Speaker 3: it is like the best years of the way your
- 8:54Speaker 3: body feels. So like, don't get me wrong. We worked
- 8:57Speaker 3: on things, but you know, a lot of it was
- 8:59Speaker 3: just kind of them trying to see Lloyd, you know,
- 9:02Speaker 3: trying to see who I was for that first year,
- 9:04Speaker 3: him getting real familiar with my swing and what I
- 9:07Speaker 3: was able to do on a daily basis. But in
- 9:09Speaker 3: twenty eleven, so we made some changes. We talked about
- 9:13Speaker 3: some things at the end of that ten thousand, twenty
- 9:15Speaker 3: ten season going into the off season, and I had
- 9:20Speaker 3: a high leg kick and so you know, it's no
- 9:22Speaker 3: secret I was. I was out there punching. I was
- 9:24Speaker 3: striking out. I get two hits, two strike outs every game.
- 9:28Speaker 3: It's coming. You don't know where to Hey, they'll go
- 9:30Speaker 3: to two hits. We can wrap it up for the
- 9:32Speaker 3: rest of this game. It is two strikeouts coming. It's
- 9:36Speaker 3: something coming. You get a hit in a strikeout. I
- 9:39Speaker 3: did that all the time. So whatever it is. But
- 9:44Speaker 3: so you know, that thing about being the lead off hitter,
- 9:48Speaker 3: especially in front of you know, Miggie and guys like
- 9:51Speaker 3: that who had a potential driving a lot of runs.
- 9:54Speaker 3: You know, we really talked about, hey, let let's focus about,
- 9:57Speaker 3: like you know, making more solid contact, getting on base,
- 10:01Speaker 3: getting on you know, because I was again speed was
- 10:03Speaker 3: part of my game, getting on base, you know, getting
- 10:06Speaker 3: a scoring position for the big guy behind me. So
- 10:09Speaker 3: we took the leg kick away in two thousand. Well,
- 10:12Speaker 3: we talked about taking away in twenty eleven. I believe
- 10:15Speaker 3: I still was doing it in twenty eleven, maybe part
- 10:18Speaker 3: of the season, and it was just not working. Like
- 10:21Speaker 3: you know that that year of twenty ten, you know
- 10:25Speaker 3: that the pitchers, all teams had a full year to
- 10:28Speaker 3: study you and figure out what your strengths and weaknesses are,
- 10:32Speaker 3: and they're really good at it, and they exploit at
- 10:36Speaker 3: a lot of things got exploited for me, and so
- 10:40Speaker 3: you know, we started tampering with you know, taking a
- 10:43Speaker 3: leg kick away was really tough because that was just
- 10:46Speaker 3: my It was a timing thing for me. I've always
- 10:48Speaker 3: did a let kick up until that point, and so
- 10:51Speaker 3: you know, I had to kind of buy into it
- 10:53Speaker 3: because I was struggling. I could not get going. Twenty
- 10:56Speaker 3: eleven was just a tough, tough year for me. And
- 10:58Speaker 3: like I said, with you know, interested teams having more
- 11:01Speaker 3: information on me. You know, they exploited my weaknesses now,
- 11:07Speaker 3: you know, went through twenty eleven season in the going
- 11:12Speaker 3: into the off season, you know, we we were like, hey,
- 11:14Speaker 3: this is this is probably the time we need to
- 11:16Speaker 3: work on it. Let's take it away. Like let's go
- 11:19Speaker 3: to a stride and here and I knew so I
- 11:22Speaker 3: knew doing that like like elect kick, I felt like
- 11:26Speaker 3: you gave me more thump on the ball, gave me
- 11:27Speaker 3: a little bit more power. So you know again a
- 11:30Speaker 3: thing guy you know, doing a strident and a stride
- 11:34Speaker 3: and hit. You know, I was like this ball ain't
- 11:36Speaker 3: going nowhere, Like this might just go over the infield.
- 11:39Speaker 3: Like so I literally that was the year. Like I
- 11:41Speaker 3: really focused on on getting stronger in the gym, and
- 11:45Speaker 3: we changed up my training routine. I told my I
- 11:48Speaker 3: remember telling my train I said, I want to look
- 11:50Speaker 3: like a football player. I want to look like a safety.
- 11:53Speaker 3: Made me look like a safety. I don't care what
- 11:55Speaker 3: we're doing, what we what we do, you know, I'm
- 11:57Speaker 3: I'm all in, let's go. So we started doing some
- 12:01Speaker 3: CrossFit type training same look now, I mean I was
- 12:05Speaker 3: that has nothing to do with baseball, Like the movements
- 12:08Speaker 3: are not the same. Nothing was the same about this,
- 12:11Speaker 3: Like we're doing seventy burpies like that has nothing to
- 12:17Speaker 3: do now. Hey, granted I was in phenomenal shape, Like
- 12:21Speaker 3: that was the strongest I have been in my career,
- 12:24Speaker 3: the strongest. So that one thing that helped just my
- 12:29Speaker 3: strength in the box because my balance, like I was
- 12:32Speaker 3: a solid you know, to me, I felt like I
- 12:35Speaker 3: was a solid rock in the box. My legs were strong,
- 12:37Speaker 3: my core was strong. Everything was just strong because I
- 12:40Speaker 3: really I really focused that off season on getting stronger.
- 12:45Speaker 3: Now having to take away the leg kick. That was
- 12:50Speaker 3: just something that you know, I went in in the
- 12:52Speaker 3: off season just practicing just to stride, just to stride
- 12:55Speaker 3: basically put my foot down, getting my hands loaded and
- 12:57Speaker 3: just staying there like really just focusing on on seeing
- 13:00Speaker 3: the ball like that. That was it. There was no
- 13:03Speaker 3: you know, magical swing plane get on. It was like, hey,
- 13:07Speaker 3: get your foot down, see the ball, use your hands
- 13:10Speaker 3: and so that, you know, that's kind of how I
- 13:13Speaker 3: went into the season. Went I actually went down to
- 13:15Speaker 3: Detroit work uh the caravan that the Tigers do went
- 13:22Speaker 3: down there early, did some hitting with him, and he
- 13:26Speaker 3: was like, yep, hey this works. Hey you look good,
- 13:28Speaker 3: you look strong. Hey. I like this. Went into the
- 13:30Speaker 3: season spring training with that work work good, I think.
- 13:35Speaker 3: So I worked good, and I don't know, probably probably
- 13:40Speaker 3: that first month. I believe that's when Prince Prince was there.
- 13:45Speaker 3: That that was Prince's first year with the Tigers. If
- 13:48Speaker 3: I'm okay cool. So Prince was a guy that that
- 13:55Speaker 3: helped me with that because I was talking to him
- 13:57Speaker 3: about like, man, I just don't have any rhythm into this.
- 14:00Speaker 3: This this this stride and loads, load and stride. I
- 14:04Speaker 3: don't have any rhythm into it. So I started watching
- 14:06Speaker 3: him MVB. Everybody knows Prince had the slow tap, you know,
- 14:10Speaker 3: get back on that back leg and then it was
- 14:12Speaker 3: full chaos coming through. And I was like, I like that.
- 14:16Speaker 3: I need that time like I want because the leg
- 14:19Speaker 3: kick you same thing. You got to get started early,
- 14:21Speaker 3: like you get that leg up early, and when you
- 14:23Speaker 3: put it down, it's you bringing it. I couldn't get
- 14:26Speaker 3: that feeling with just you know, just uh striding and
- 14:30Speaker 3: loading my hands. So we started doing the toe tap
- 14:33Speaker 3: and I started getting my power back. I was able
- 14:35Speaker 3: to use my legs a lot more, but I was
- 14:38Speaker 3: I was a lot more balanced in the box my
- 14:42Speaker 3: I was a lot more quiet with my feet, quiet
- 14:45Speaker 3: with my my load, so I was able to see
- 14:47Speaker 3: the ball so much better. Still, you know, still have
- 14:50Speaker 3: my moments where I struggled, but when not having this
- 14:53Speaker 3: big leg kick and not having to you know, really
- 14:56Speaker 3: try to redefine my timing. You know, a little toe
- 15:00Speaker 3: tap here, just boom boom and getting it back down
- 15:02Speaker 3: really helped me see the ball. And you know, not
- 15:05Speaker 3: to mention just being physically stronger, and I think that
- 15:08Speaker 3: helped me mentally too, knowing that, hey, you know, I
- 15:11Speaker 3: felt stronger, My body felt good, and you know, what
- 15:16Speaker 3: I was doing mechanically was working because I was able
- 15:19Speaker 3: to see pitches a lot longer. Now I got hurt.
- 15:22Speaker 3: That was the issue of being strong like that. I
- 15:26Speaker 3: wasn't I wasn't stretching. I was I was hey boy,
- 15:29Speaker 3: it was cleaning and front squatting and just like just
- 15:33Speaker 3: like during the season, I was doing this stuff and
- 15:35Speaker 3: they're like, dude, you're a lead off hitter. I'm like eighties.
- 15:38Speaker 3: I don't care for me enough just getting it, you know,
- 15:40Speaker 3: like ah, I remember Prince came in when d was
- 15:43Speaker 3: in there lift and he was like, you're a lead
- 15:44Speaker 3: off hitter, Like what you do? I want to get it?
- 15:48Speaker 3: So I was staying with that same trainer, you know, regimen,
- 15:51Speaker 3: and I ended up getting hurt and because I wasn't stretching.
- 15:55Speaker 3: So but yes, that was the biggest thing I did was,
- 15:58Speaker 3: you know, mechanically, was take away the leg kick and
- 16:01Speaker 3: started going with a toe tap. I know it took
- 16:02Speaker 3: me a minute to get back around to that, but
- 16:04Speaker 3: we got it. Great, excellent nat insight.
- 16:08Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to point out real quick to
- 16:11Speaker 1: everybody Austin's talking about is twenty eleven down year, quote unquote,
- 16:15Speaker 1: he was a four point six war guy and that
- 16:17Speaker 1: would comfortably be behind Riley Green on this on the
- 16:20Speaker 1: twenty twenty four Tigers per second amongst position players. So
- 16:24Speaker 1: I just want to put that out there real quick, humble,
- 16:26Speaker 1: mister Jackson.
- 16:26Speaker 3: There so.
- 16:29Speaker 1: One more sort of self submission into this little Q
- 16:33Speaker 1: and eight thing, because you've mentioned Prince a couple of
- 16:35Speaker 1: times there, and again I think this is kind of timely.
- 16:39Speaker 1: Tigers fans are waiting to see whether Alex Bregman's gonna
- 16:42Speaker 1: you know, choose to sign with the Tigers and and
- 16:45Speaker 1: so like everybody's kind of waiting with baited breath every day.
- 16:47Speaker 1: I know Cody is for professional side. I am, you know,
- 16:51Speaker 1: to be able to do this. I'm curious during the offseason,
- 16:56Speaker 1: like Prince was signed on January twenty sixth of that
- 17:00Speaker 1: before that twenty twelve season, So how much are you
- 17:03Speaker 1: paying attention to sort of the transactions And then you know,
- 17:07Speaker 1: in general with the team, especially one that has real
- 17:11Speaker 1: expectations like you guys did then and like the Tigers
- 17:14Speaker 1: are trying to get to right now, and I guess
- 17:17Speaker 1: specifically the Prince too, like your reaction to saying because
- 17:21Speaker 1: you know, the v mart injury happens just then and
- 17:24Speaker 1: then it's like, oh my gosh, like you know, came
- 17:26Speaker 1: out of nowhere. Prince Fielder is going to be a
- 17:28Speaker 1: Tiger in your case, is going to be my teammate.
- 17:30Speaker 1: So you know that part of the offseason, you know
- 17:33Speaker 1: what was that like for you?
- 17:35Speaker 3: Man? You get pumped up, you know, you just get
- 17:38Speaker 3: this rejuvenate, like all right, cool, like we're not taking
- 17:42Speaker 3: a step back right now, We're going forward, like we're
- 17:46Speaker 3: going forward. Like and with that sign it let us know, like, hey,
- 17:50Speaker 3: we're we're in a position right now to win. We
- 17:54Speaker 3: got the team to win right now, and going out
- 17:57Speaker 3: and grabbing Prince was huge. I mean I've I've heard many,
- 18:01Speaker 3: you know, the stories about Prince him as a teammate.
- 18:03Speaker 3: Obviously you see what he does as a player, but
- 18:07Speaker 3: I mean that just pumped me up. Like it, Like
- 18:09Speaker 3: I said, it just kind of added like that extra
- 18:11Speaker 3: juice to you in the offseason, man, Like you know,
- 18:13Speaker 3: you were pumped up not only to just be his teammate,
- 18:16Speaker 3: but to know that he's you know, what he can
- 18:18Speaker 3: add to the team from an off offensive standpoint. It's
- 18:23Speaker 3: just it was just unreal, man. It was it was
- 18:26Speaker 3: It was awesome. Like I was pumped up, dude, Like
- 18:28Speaker 3: I was super excited. Uh, couldn't couldn't wait to get
- 18:30Speaker 3: the spring training, you know, to meet him and and
- 18:33Speaker 3: you know, became one of my favorite teammates to ever
- 18:36Speaker 3: play with.
- 18:37Speaker 4: So hmm, yeah, those are some some things maybe for
- 18:42Speaker 4: the Tigers and the current roster to consider. We've already
- 18:45Speaker 4: talked a ton about that on our last couple episodes.
- 18:48Speaker 4: So to another question, to another, to another Austin Jackson
- 18:53Speaker 4: memory Here This one's from Nick s who's a long
- 18:55Speaker 4: time listener, and he just said, talk us through this
- 18:58Speaker 4: absolute seed of a row and sent a YouTube clip.
- 19:02Speaker 4: I mean, I'm gonna play this for you real quick, Austin,
- 19:04Speaker 4: and I want to know what you remember about this play.
- 19:06Speaker 4: This was against the Indians in twenty eleven.
- 19:10Speaker 2: Man, the one one in the year in the shallow
- 19:13Speaker 2: center field, Jackson hasn't measured, catchers made.
- 19:16Speaker 3: They're gonna try and score.
- 19:17Speaker 4: The round here.
- 19:17Speaker 3: It's just part of the plot here, sweet, the side
- 19:28Speaker 3: that wasn't s Yeah, yeah, that's that's what your boy had.
- 19:32Speaker 3: That's what you're like. Hey, that's what I'm telling you.
- 19:34Speaker 3: Like when I was younger and my body was you know,
- 19:37Speaker 3: felt good and I could just catch it it right away,
- 19:39Speaker 3: just let it go instead like later on, you gotta
- 19:42Speaker 3: take an extra step, get your body and your back
- 19:45Speaker 3: in the right position like like that. I mean that
- 19:49Speaker 3: that was awesome because uh, I think DK was playing
- 19:53Speaker 3: left field, Don Kelly and he was playing left field,
- 19:57Speaker 3: and it's so cool because me and DK we got
- 20:00Speaker 3: so many plays together where it's like, oh, DK was
- 20:04Speaker 3: beside me on that and so uh he's you know,
- 20:08Speaker 3: as I'm first of all, I think, uh Valverde I
- 20:12Speaker 3: think it was he on his street that year. I
- 20:15Speaker 3: want to say he might have been on his streak
- 20:17Speaker 3: that year. So and also just kind of one of
- 20:19Speaker 3: those years where like kind of everything was like lined
- 20:23Speaker 3: up for me, like defensively, like it was just you know,
- 20:26Speaker 3: like you know, I was taking the right angles to
- 20:28Speaker 3: balls a lot. You know, I was just you know,
- 20:30Speaker 3: really getting really good jumps on ball. But I remember
- 20:33Speaker 3: that play like it was yesterday. Man, Like off the
- 20:36Speaker 3: off the bat, you know, got a great read on it,
- 20:38Speaker 3: lined you know, line got you know, lined up, line
- 20:41Speaker 3: my feet up, line my body up, and I just
- 20:43Speaker 3: remember DK in my ear like throw it out like
- 20:48Speaker 3: it just gave me it, like gave me an extra joint,
- 20:51Speaker 3: you know, he's like throwing out and I mean I
- 20:55Speaker 3: just it just it just was perfect, like every the
- 20:57Speaker 3: timing of it, you know, me just catching it and
- 21:00Speaker 3: just the transition just from the you know, the glove
- 21:03Speaker 3: to hand and letting it go and uh, you know,
- 21:06Speaker 3: probably one of the best throws I've ever made accurately anyways,
- 21:10Speaker 3: And yeah, it was that was that was a crazy
- 21:14Speaker 3: play right there to end the game and to keep
- 21:17Speaker 3: that street going, man, because there was a lot of
- 21:19Speaker 3: plays that kept you know, that street going, because it
- 21:22Speaker 3: was it was some it got weird and towards the
- 21:26Speaker 3: end of the games when val Verdi we get on
- 21:28Speaker 3: the mouth, you know, it was it was like walk
- 21:31Speaker 3: bases loaded sometimes and it's like hold up what you
- 21:34Speaker 3: got that? You know? And so that was one of
- 21:38Speaker 3: those times where it was like, man, everything had to
- 21:40Speaker 3: be perfect and and uh it was Alex you know,
- 21:43Speaker 3: he's right there, you know, vacuuming that thing up and
- 21:46Speaker 3: putting that tag on him. You know, so everything worked
- 21:49Speaker 3: out perfect.
- 21:51Speaker 1: Well, it's not a former Tigers Q and A without
- 21:56Speaker 1: some some Miggey love. All right, So we have we
- 22:00Speaker 1: have Wyatt, we have we have Mark, a couple of
- 22:03Speaker 1: guys that send in, you know, some version of you know,
- 22:07Speaker 1: what's it like to play with Miguel? Do you have
- 22:09Speaker 1: a funny Miguel Cabrera story? What kind of influence impact
- 22:14Speaker 1: did he have on you?
- 22:14Speaker 3: Playing with? You know? What statistics?
- 22:16Speaker 1: You know, a guy who's statistically speaking is one of
- 22:18Speaker 1: the greatest to ever do it, you know, and sometimes
- 22:21Speaker 1: like he got older in his career, like really kind
- 22:25Speaker 1: of slowed down. But like sometimes you got to remind yourself, like,
- 22:28Speaker 1: this guy was one of the greatest to ever do it,
- 22:30Speaker 1: and you got to share a lineup card with him.
- 22:33Speaker 1: So when I say Austin Jackson, Miguel Cabrera, go, you
- 22:38Speaker 1: know what kind of like comes to mind?
- 22:41Speaker 3: I mean, in my opinion, he is one of, if
- 22:45Speaker 3: not the greatest hitters too, you know, of his era
- 22:49Speaker 3: for sure. You know, I can't say enough about it.
- 22:53Speaker 3: Like every time I talk about it, I'm like, dude,
- 22:55Speaker 3: this this guy was unreal. And you know, I was
- 22:58Speaker 3: just fortunate to like, you know, be able to see
- 23:01Speaker 3: his the you know, you always hear about you know,
- 23:04Speaker 3: these great athletes, great people, great you know, whatever it is,
- 23:08Speaker 3: and you just wonder, like what what do they do different?
- 23:11Speaker 3: You know, what gives them that that edge over everybody else?
- 23:16Speaker 3: You know, obviously, you know from a physical standpoint, Miguel Cabrera,
- 23:21Speaker 3: you know, you see his his you know his physical stature,
- 23:25Speaker 3: and I mean he's a big guy. Super athletic, though,
- 23:28Speaker 3: is what's the crazy thing about being that that height
- 23:31Speaker 3: and that that size, that weight. The dude was light
- 23:34Speaker 3: on his feet, I mean, to be able to make
- 23:35Speaker 3: the transition from first base to third base and make
- 23:38Speaker 3: it look pretty easy, you know what I mean, like
- 23:41Speaker 3: pretty easy at that size. This dude's work ethic was
- 23:45Speaker 3: was different, and that's what it is. Like, Yes, he
- 23:48Speaker 3: was blessed talent that you know. You know, he was
- 23:52Speaker 3: blessed to have the hand eye coordination, right, he's just
- 23:55Speaker 3: better than everybody else. But he also put the work
- 23:58Speaker 3: in though. Like it it was the work that nobody
- 24:02Speaker 3: got to see. The weight room sessions that I would
- 24:05Speaker 3: go in there and the dude is in there pumping
- 24:07Speaker 3: iron before or after the game. The every time this
- 24:11Speaker 3: dude went to the cage, you best believe your boy
- 24:13Speaker 3: was following him down there, like I'm watching that's free
- 24:17Speaker 3: that man, that is free tutelage right there. I'm going.
- 24:22Speaker 3: You know, if this dude went to the cage, I
- 24:24Speaker 3: was like, we're yep, I'm going like I'm following that
- 24:27Speaker 3: into you follow greatness around you better if you wanted
- 24:31Speaker 3: to rub off on you a little bit, you know
- 24:33Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So like I would go watch this dude.
- 24:36Speaker 3: You know, every time this dude went down the head
- 24:38Speaker 3: just to try to pick up like what is he seeing?
- 24:41Speaker 3: What what is he doing? What is his mechanics like,
- 24:45Speaker 3: what is he doing before the you know, pre pitch,
- 24:47Speaker 3: what is he doing you know, with his hands when
- 24:49Speaker 3: he loads them? And I'll see he does some things
- 24:52Speaker 3: that's just miggy. You can't you can't try to emulate
- 24:55Speaker 3: that because it ain't gonna work. But the guy, his
- 24:59Speaker 3: work ethic is is up there with the greats, you know,
- 25:03Speaker 3: and you you try to emulate that. You try to
- 25:05Speaker 3: do those things that you see the great to do.
- 25:09Speaker 3: And not only was he a great player, but me
- 25:11Speaker 3: and him got really close, man, when when my time there,
- 25:15Speaker 3: and it was he was awesome. Man, I think it
- 25:17Speaker 3: took a you know, he's a guy that you know, uh,
- 25:20Speaker 3: he had to trust you, you know, to kind of
- 25:22Speaker 3: let you in his circle. And I think I was
- 25:24Speaker 3: one of those guys that he that he let in.
- 25:27Speaker 3: And we had some really really good good time together,
- 25:30Speaker 3: close talks. Man. You know, it was a guy that
- 25:33Speaker 3: you know, we could we could vent back to back
- 25:35Speaker 3: and forth to each other, you know, can talk about anything,
- 25:37Speaker 3: talk about life. And he's just he's a good person, man,
- 25:41Speaker 3: good person. Now, Mickey would have these little moods me
- 25:44Speaker 3: and me and Prince used to mess around like he's
- 25:46Speaker 3: like he moody today. He gonna he gonna say something
- 25:50Speaker 3: to me about that too, But I don't care. He
- 25:51Speaker 3: would do these little moody things sometimes, like a little
- 25:54Speaker 3: twelve year old man. I'd be like, Nah, like you
- 25:59Speaker 3: too big for that, bro. You two me to be
- 26:02Speaker 3: coming in here acting like that. Me and Prince. You
- 26:04Speaker 3: look at it. You gotta cut the eye like in
- 26:07Speaker 3: the mood today today, that's that That ain't like. That's
- 26:11Speaker 3: not Miggy, that's that's his son today.
- 26:13Speaker 4: So I appreciate the honesty there. As a as a reporter,
- 26:21Speaker 4: I always knew if you walked in the clubhouse and
- 26:24Speaker 4: Miguel was like body turned toward the room, standing there,
- 26:27Speaker 4: he was approachable that day. Yeah, he had his back
- 26:30Speaker 4: turned staring at his locker. You didn't go within ten
- 26:33Speaker 4: feet of Miggy that day.
- 26:36Speaker 3: You already know that you know what I'm talking about.
- 26:38Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, I've seen I've seen some of the moods
- 26:41Speaker 4: you're talking about. Yes, and I'm sure you've seen it
- 26:43Speaker 4: way more than I have. But I know where you're going.
- 26:46Speaker 4: But but that does kind of.
- 26:47Speaker 2: Lead into another question from Mark b.
- 26:49Speaker 4: He said, as a teammate who was more intimidating JV
- 26:53Speaker 4: or Miggy, and I.
- 26:54Speaker 2: Think this kind of relevant.
- 26:55Speaker 4: Verlander just last night signed with the Giants one year,
- 26:58Speaker 4: fifteen million. That's the same deal the Tigers gave Alex Cobb.
- 27:02Speaker 4: So obviously a lot of Tigers fans would have loved
- 27:05Speaker 4: to see Verlander back in Detroit. But when they signed
- 27:08Speaker 4: Alex Cobb, they talked a lot about what he could
- 27:10Speaker 4: mean as a veteran leader, what a down to earth
- 27:13Speaker 4: guy he was. Now, by all accounts, Verlander has kind
- 27:17Speaker 4: of softened a little bit in his old age. I'm
- 27:19Speaker 4: sure he would be a great mentor to young players too,
- 27:23Speaker 4: But I was thinking, like, you throw a guy like
- 27:25Speaker 4: Justin Verlander in the room with that young of the team,
- 27:28Speaker 4: it would definitely alter the chemistry just because he's Justin Verlander. So, yeah,
- 27:34Speaker 4: were you ever intimidated by either of those guys? And
- 27:37Speaker 4: what was it like just playing with players of that
- 27:39Speaker 4: statue egos or personalities of that statue?
- 27:44Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I mean, I guess, you know, I
- 27:49Speaker 3: guess maybe not intimidate wasn't the right word. I think
- 27:54Speaker 3: more approachable, which one was more like for me? Just
- 27:57Speaker 3: more approachable? And I can see how, uh, sometimes you
- 28:01Speaker 3: know their their moods that they were in. It would
- 28:05Speaker 3: it would probably seem intimidating. But for me, I think
- 28:10Speaker 3: that me, I mean, Verlander, you know, you just you
- 28:14Speaker 3: kind of you as you get to play with guys
- 28:16Speaker 3: and you get to realize what makes them tick and
- 28:19Speaker 3: just their routine and how they you know, when they're pitching.
- 28:23Speaker 3: You know, but what kind of what kind of teammate
- 28:25Speaker 3: is this person? Like? Is this the person that hey,
- 28:27Speaker 3: I mean, you know you need to you need to
- 28:30Speaker 3: just say what's up to or can you? Can you
- 28:32Speaker 3: talk to him? You know, like a Doug Fister was
- 28:34Speaker 3: still talk to Doug all day, every day, like it
- 28:36Speaker 3: didn't matter if he was pitching the World Series game
- 28:39Speaker 3: or or not. Verlander wasn't a guy like that. You know.
- 28:41Speaker 3: He put his headphones on from the time he opened
- 28:44Speaker 3: his car door to the time he got in. And
- 28:46Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, all right, Like but I still but nah,
- 28:51Speaker 3: forget that. You're gonna say what's up to me? You're
- 28:53Speaker 3: gonna give me something? I would go. I would purposely
- 28:56Speaker 3: do it. I'm like, yeah, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,
- 28:58Speaker 3: how we doing all right? You go speak to me
- 29:02Speaker 3: like I'm about to go chase some of the balls
- 29:05Speaker 3: down there. You know, you need to say something to me.
- 29:08Speaker 3: I'm not the opponent, but I get it. You know,
- 29:11Speaker 3: That's just how it was. It's not intimidating, just just
- 29:14Speaker 3: more of like not as a as approachable is a
- 29:17Speaker 3: guy like MIGGI. Now Miggie, like we just talked about,
- 29:20Speaker 3: with his size, that could seem intimidated to some people.
- 29:23Speaker 3: But he's a big kid, you know, and like he
- 29:25Speaker 3: has a kid heirit, you know, he has a funny personality,
- 29:29Speaker 3: and he's more easy going, I think than for the
- 29:32Speaker 3: more I got to know verb. You know, we we uh,
- 29:34Speaker 3: you know, we we kind of developed this, you know,
- 29:37Speaker 3: a cool little bond. But you know, I think Meggie
- 29:42Speaker 3: was more approachable. But he also was jokester too, so
- 29:46Speaker 3: you know, to some people he might come off like,
- 29:48Speaker 3: oh man, that was mean, and then he's he's laughing
- 29:51Speaker 3: behind your back, you know, cause he's just joking. You know.
- 29:54Speaker 3: He wasn't really like that. But I think that I
- 29:57Speaker 3: think Miggi was more approachable and Erland it was you know,
- 30:02Speaker 3: you you know, you had to have something to talk about.
- 30:04Speaker 3: Don't just come up here to me and just start
- 30:06Speaker 3: talking like you Like I used to have to fake
- 30:08Speaker 3: talk about cars like I didn't know nothing to have
- 30:10Speaker 3: no cars, but that was you know what I'm saying.
- 30:13Speaker 3: This man got twenty seven cars out here. I don't
- 30:15Speaker 3: know how to say none of them. But we're going
- 30:17Speaker 3: to talk about it like oh yeah, that that you know,
- 30:20Speaker 3: that is Les s five what you know what I mean?
- 30:25Speaker 3: And I just had to But that was our way
- 30:27Speaker 3: to get in there, you know what I mean. So
- 30:29Speaker 3: you just got to know how to approach it. That's
- 30:33Speaker 3: really Doude. That was amazing. That was amazing.
- 30:40Speaker 2: Oh man, I almost want to end on that.
- 30:42Speaker 1: We have more, but we also but we also have
- 30:46Speaker 1: we have plenty of time in this offseason. I think
- 30:48Speaker 1: we can get to some other Cody, what do you
- 30:49Speaker 1: think you want?
- 30:50Speaker 3: Is there anything else?
- 30:51Speaker 4: Let's let's show one more highlights. We got it in
- 30:54Speaker 4: the back, Okay, let's do all right? And you talked
- 30:56Speaker 4: about this play I think on the Big Foul Territory Show.
- 30:58Speaker 4: I actually hadn't seen it until until I watched you
- 31:01Speaker 4: in there. But one of the best catches of your
- 31:03Speaker 4: career was at Finway Park. You leaped over the wall
- 31:06Speaker 4: into the Red Sox bullpen and at Burnt Evidence, I
- 31:11Speaker 4: think there's a YouTube account asked did you have any
- 31:13Speaker 4: interaction with Tory Hunter after that play? Of course that
- 31:16Speaker 4: brings back the bad Tigers ALCS memories, but he also
- 31:20Speaker 4: said might go down as one of the only defensive
- 31:23Speaker 4: plays to muster an ovation from the opponent.
- 31:26Speaker 3: Here's that clip.
- 31:30Speaker 5: There's a walk slide ball deep center field jack since
- 31:34Speaker 5: back he leaves.
- 31:36Speaker 3: Catch, he flipped into the bullpen. Did he hang on?
- 31:41Speaker 3: That's the only question at this point. He sure did.
- 31:43Speaker 3: What I'm playing by.
- 31:47Speaker 4: That just that's that's pretty good.
- 31:49Speaker 2: Still looking pretty athletic. There Austin saying, O.
- 31:53Speaker 3: Man, that was that was? Uh yeah, I mean I did.
- 31:57Speaker 3: I talked about it earlier. But I love to explain
- 32:01Speaker 3: how you know in that in that moment, how things
- 32:03Speaker 3: slowed you know, how you don't realize how in that
- 32:06Speaker 3: quick of a moment, how you know things slow down,
- 32:10Speaker 3: you know, just to you know, be in the air
- 32:13Speaker 3: and look around. I don't even know if I looked around,
- 32:17Speaker 3: but it felt like I looked around and I was
- 32:18Speaker 3: able to like see pick up like little small details,
- 32:21Speaker 3: you know, like the the bullpen, dirt grass and uh
- 32:25Speaker 3: the bullpen catcher, the bull you know, the picture that
- 32:29Speaker 3: was throwing to see fans, you know, to see things
- 32:32Speaker 3: like that in in that quick of a moment like
- 32:34Speaker 3: when when things slow down like that. So, no, I
- 32:37Speaker 3: did not talk to Tory about it because I didn't know
- 32:39Speaker 3: if that was a sour like like a sore subject
- 32:42Speaker 3: a little bit because I joke not joke around with
- 32:44Speaker 3: him all the time, because I'm like, bro, you the
- 32:47Speaker 3: way you went over that wall, man, I like, why
- 32:50Speaker 3: you didn't grab it, like you just hit it and
- 32:54Speaker 3: just let your body go. And he's like, gott hey, man,
- 32:57Speaker 3: you gotta you gotta lay it on the line. I'm like,
- 32:59Speaker 3: I know. But like when I went over there, I
- 33:01Speaker 3: thought Tory was body was gonna be just disfigured and like,
- 33:05Speaker 3: you know, like cause he hit it and he was gone,
- 33:07Speaker 3: like you don't see toy no more like and he
- 33:09Speaker 3: don't and there's like there's no pop up at the
- 33:12Speaker 3: five seconds. It's like he was he was down. Tough dude, though, Man,
- 33:16Speaker 3: he's tough because you see what I did. I grabbed
- 33:18Speaker 3: that wall. I grabbed the wall after I caught the ball,
- 33:21Speaker 3: like I it's like I had time honestly to think
- 33:24Speaker 3: about that as well, like like grab the wall, like,
- 33:27Speaker 3: don't don't just don't just fall on them, you know,
- 33:30Speaker 3: grab grab the wall. So I was able to jump,
- 33:33Speaker 3: make the catch and grab the wall, which was kind
- 33:37Speaker 3: of impressive, I think because that you know that that's
- 33:41Speaker 3: not something that I think you just reaction, you know
- 33:43Speaker 3: in that in that moment, you know you're just reacting.
- 33:46Speaker 3: And honestly, I didn't. I didn't know.
- 33:49Speaker 6: I didn't know if he was out or that. I'm like,
- 33:51Speaker 6: I caught it, but I'm on the other side of
- 33:53Speaker 6: the fence, so that is, you know, like I've never
- 33:57Speaker 6: done that before. I don't even know if I've seen
- 33:59Speaker 6: anybody you know, do that in baseball.
- 34:01Speaker 3: And I'm like, I don't I'm gonna jump up, like
- 34:03Speaker 3: I know that he's out, he might do this, and
- 34:07Speaker 3: I and I can't even say nothing, you know, like
- 34:09Speaker 3: I had no clue if if he was you know,
- 34:12Speaker 3: that's a home run or not. So I found out
- 34:15Speaker 3: I need to up my game on the on the
- 34:17Speaker 3: rules of baseball.
- 34:21Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if this was on purpose, but
- 34:23Speaker 1: the sense of timing. You could see it in that
- 34:24Speaker 1: clip of just like you.
- 34:26Speaker 5: Know, getting over the wall and then you know, let
- 34:30Speaker 5: letting it, letting it go and letting the ball go
- 34:32Speaker 5: into the infield and you and you can hear the
- 34:34Speaker 5: different like oohs and ahs from the crowd after that.
- 34:37Speaker 1: So instinctively, your sense of timing there was was top notch.
- 34:41Speaker 1: And and I'm glad that, uh, you have the ability
- 34:45Speaker 1: to joke with Tori about that about that catch. I
- 34:48Speaker 1: took a tour of Fenway Park a couple of years ago,
- 34:51Speaker 1: and I walk in and the first thing I look
- 34:54Speaker 1: at is that spot right there. Yeah, the first first
- 34:58Speaker 1: thing I looked at, you know. So I think I
- 35:00Speaker 1: was with Cody watching that game when we were in college.
- 35:02Speaker 1: I think I was mid beer punk toss.
- 35:05Speaker 4: And yeah, I don't remember it, to be honest.
- 35:10Speaker 2: And sometimes I wish I didn't either. All Right, that
- 35:14Speaker 2: was awesome.
- 35:14Speaker 3: That was awesome.
- 35:15Speaker 1: Thank you to everybody who sent questions in some stuff
- 35:19Speaker 1: that we didn't get to. I think we'll be able
- 35:21Speaker 1: to get through as the season approaches, especially things that
- 35:25Speaker 1: will tie into season coming up spring training, any of
- 35:29Speaker 1: that stuff, topical things. So I appreciate everybody who's sending questions.
- 35:33Speaker 1: And you know, we did clips on this the first time, Cody,
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