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Episode 8:S4- TRIBUS TAKEOVER · The Cursewords in Cursive Podcast

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SPEAKER_02: Ladies and gentlemen, it's a tribus takeover.
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SPEAKER_02: Woo! Welcome to the podcast, and this is the Curse Words and Curse of the podcast.
0:35
SPEAKER_02: And I got the whole band.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, not the whole band, but my favorite part of the band, the rhythm section.
0:45
SPEAKER_04: No one gives the bass player love.
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SPEAKER_02: That's why made you sit closer to me.
0:51
SPEAKER_02: Welcome, you guys.
0:52
SPEAKER_02: Welcome, welcome to the people.
0:54
SPEAKER_04: We're very glad to be here.
0:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and hey, you're actually the first returning.
0:59
SPEAKER_02: Glad to be back.
1:00
SPEAKER_02: The first one.
1:00
SPEAKER_02: You know, I always tell everybody we should do this again sometime.
1:03
SPEAKER_02: And I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:04
SPEAKER_02: But you're actually the first one that came back.
1:05
SPEAKER_06: Oh yeah.
1:06
SPEAKER_06: Probably been like over a year now.
1:08
SPEAKER_06: So yeah.
1:09
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:10
SPEAKER_06: So a lot of change.
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SPEAKER_02: Let's start over here.
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SPEAKER_04: Hey, you're the bass player.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah, what's up, guys?
1:16
SPEAKER_04: My name is Brandon.
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SPEAKER_04: I'm the bass player for Tribus.
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SPEAKER_02: Go ahead, move on down.
1:22
SPEAKER_02: Who's this guy right here?
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SPEAKER_03: Uh Travis.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm the vocalist for the Ben.
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SPEAKER_03: Uh Tribus, of course.
1:29
SPEAKER_03: Glad to be here.
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SPEAKER_06: Hell yeah.
1:31
SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
1:32
SPEAKER_06: And I'm Mark Curley, drummer of Tribus.
1:35
SPEAKER_06: Oh.
1:36
SPEAKER_02: And Project BC.
1:37
SPEAKER_02: And Project BC.
1:39
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
1:40
SPEAKER_02: So what's up, guys?
1:41
SPEAKER_03: How are you guys doing today?
1:43
SPEAKER_03: Doing great.
1:43
SPEAKER_03: It was uh it was a drive.
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SPEAKER_03: It was nice.
1:47
SPEAKER_03: It was a nice drive.
1:48
SPEAKER_03: Uh Gallup.
1:49
SPEAKER_03: Oh wow.
1:50
SPEAKER_03: Wow.
1:51
SPEAKER_03: Where are you guys coming from?
1:52
SPEAKER_04: Uh we're just from Farmington, just in town.
1:54
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:55
SPEAKER_04: So it was like a 10-minute drive over here.
1:57
SPEAKER_04: So I just got off work.
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SPEAKER_04: So yeah?
2:00
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
2:01
SPEAKER_02: Actually, I I was at work today too.
2:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:05
SPEAKER_02: I was actually setting this all up last night and I was like, oh my gosh.
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SPEAKER_02: It was set up completely different.
2:11
SPEAKER_02: Have you guys seen the other videos?
2:12
SPEAKER_02: I was like, oh man, how am I gonna, how am I gonna?
2:15
SPEAKER_02: I was like, oh wait, I've done this before.
2:16
SPEAKER_02: And I set it up the way it is.
2:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:17
SPEAKER_02: But as the camera angles and stuff, I was like, mmm, I wasn't really like satisfied with the last one with the camera angles.
2:24
SPEAKER_02: Because I didn't it didn't show me or didn't show Curly in there.
2:27
SPEAKER_02: But you know you guys.
2:29
SPEAKER_02: Hey.
2:31
SPEAKER_06: But yeah.
2:32
SPEAKER_06: Were you at work too?
2:33
SPEAKER_06: Oh no, I actually uh came in from Denver last night.
2:36
SPEAKER_06: So uh oh Denver oh yeah, you said you were in Denver, huh?
2:41
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I'm actually working out there now.
2:43
SPEAKER_06: Oh wow.
2:44
SPEAKER_06: So it's been a year now since you know I left my job and went up there.
2:48
SPEAKER_06: So it's everything's been great.
2:50
SPEAKER_06: So how does it work when you guys all practice?
2:53
SPEAKER_06: Um I have to come back down.
2:54
SPEAKER_06: We um I'm the main one who schedules it.
2:58
SPEAKER_06: I'm like, all right, guys, I'm gonna come down.
3:00
SPEAKER_06: I'm coming back home, so I'll be back for this you know amount of time.
3:04
SPEAKER_06: So what day is good with everyone?
3:06
SPEAKER_06: So yeah, I try to I try to keep these guys in line sometimes.
3:12
SPEAKER_04: He can't keep little brother in line though.
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SPEAKER_04: Uh uh.
3:18
SPEAKER_02: So so we we've talked about your drumming before.
3:21
SPEAKER_02: So let's let's let's talk to the bass player.
3:23
SPEAKER_02: All right.
3:24
SPEAKER_02: Bass is one of my favorite instruments.
3:26
SPEAKER_02: I I I've mentioned before I've always wanted to be a bass player.
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SPEAKER_02: Did you always want to be a bass player?
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SPEAKER_04: Nope.
3:31
SPEAKER_04: That was never my first choice.
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SPEAKER_04: What was your first choice?
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SPEAKER_04: Well, I wanted to do guitar, but I'm not really that good at it.
3:39
SPEAKER_04: You know, I played for a while and I could just never pick it up, I guess.
3:44
SPEAKER_04: So yeah.
3:46
SPEAKER_04: And um the the whole the whole reason I got into bass playing bass was with Signal 99.
3:53
SPEAKER_04: Um I don't know if you guys know Chuck Haven, but he had a brother named um Hank Haven.
3:59
SPEAKER_04: And he was a huge inter inspiration to me throughout the years.
4:02
SPEAKER_04: So when I would follow them because Mark was in the band, I would follow them and watch them play and just to watch him play.
4:09
SPEAKER_04: It was I just looked up to him just the way he moved on stage, the way he played, and and um sadly and unfortunately, you know, he did pass away from MS.
4:22
SPEAKER_04: So um during that time, you know, I don't think Chuck wanted to do it anymore, but he wanted to do it in honor of his brother.
4:30
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
4:31
SPEAKER_04: So um I kind of stepped into those huge shoes.
4:34
SPEAKER_04: To me, those are like some huge shoes right there.
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SPEAKER_04: So I took over, and that's how I I basically became a bass player.
4:41
SPEAKER_02: That was for Signal 99.
4:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Signal 99.
4:43
SPEAKER_02: You see the one with the mask?
4:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
4:45
SPEAKER_02: I know exactly I felt like when I saw them shoes.
4:49
SPEAKER_02: He's on the cover of their first album, Armed and Dangerous.
4:52
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
4:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I remember seeing them at the mod.
4:54
SPEAKER_02: It wasn't called the mod, it was called something else.
4:56
SPEAKER_02: I don't know what it was called.
4:57
SPEAKER_02: That's where the first time I saw Signal 99.
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SPEAKER_02: I was I was really young, and I just that bass tone, he was wearing like a jump.
5:03
SPEAKER_04: I loved his bass too, his H his HR Geiger bass.
5:07
SPEAKER_04: That was such a beautiful bass.
5:09
SPEAKER_04: I love that thing.
5:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because like I've mentioned a billion times, I love new metal type music, new metal corn, slip knot, all that stuff.
5:18
SPEAKER_04: And when I heard that bass tone sounding like Cold Chamber, it's like Henry and then he was my huge inspiration and also Phil D from Corn, too.
5:29
SPEAKER_04: So that's kind of what well, I'm not really good at the slap, but uh but I mean you just gotta you just gotta play with it.
5:37
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, most definitely.
5:38
SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
5:39
SPEAKER_04: I guess it's just not my thing.
5:41
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but those are your main inspirations?
5:43
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, um those are my main ones, and I also really love um Steve Harris from Iron Maiden.
5:49
SPEAKER_04: I think that's why I like to use my fingers when I play.
5:52
SPEAKER_04: So he those those three have been huge inspiration to me.
5:56
SPEAKER_02: So mine was um I guess Flea from Ed Hot Chili Pop.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
6:02
SPEAKER_02: Being very little, hearing like Californication and He's a monster on the bass.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and just hearing um what's that song called?
6:09
SPEAKER_02: Give it away.
6:09
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
6:10
SPEAKER_02: Because the give it away what got me was like the bee ding ding being that little slide.
6:16
SPEAKER_02: But I didn't see it from Flea, I saw it from a weird Al Yankovic music group.
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SPEAKER_02: Like Yabba da does, and it showed the bass, the bass line going.
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SPEAKER_02: I was like, ah, and then I heard the real song.
6:28
SPEAKER_02: I was like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, what?
6:30
SPEAKER_02: What I was really young, you know, I that's where I heard it from.
6:34
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, I I I always wanted to be a bass.
6:37
SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah, yeah.
6:38
SPEAKER_04: So that wasn't my first choice, but I kind of just took on that role, and now I love the bass, so I don't think I would want to play anything else.
6:47
SPEAKER_04: When did you get your first bass?
6:48
SPEAKER_04: Like your first own bass.
6:51
SPEAKER_04: That's gonna be tough to think about.
6:54
SPEAKER_04: Uh I know it was shortly after I joined um Signal 99.
6:58
SPEAKER_04: Um, for a while there, I was kind of just using other basses and stuff like that.
7:03
SPEAKER_04: So but I think it might have been like just a couple of months into Signal 99.
7:08
SPEAKER_04: I forgot what model and everything it was, but there's a kind of a funny story with my first bass.
7:14
SPEAKER_04: I actually we played with um Powerman 5000 in Tuba City.
7:20
SPEAKER_04: So right after we got done playing that, I guess I just left my I guess I just left my base on the stage.
7:26
SPEAKER_04: What we took off, and um Chuck got a call from one of the people over there saying that someone left a base, and I was like, God, that's mine.
7:35
SPEAKER_04: I don't have it.
7:36
SPEAKER_02: How'd you forget it though?
7:38
SPEAKER_04: Uh it's just the play a show and you're like, it's just the the craziness of like tearing down and everything and trying to get your shit off.
7:46
SPEAKER_04: Oh, sorry, trying to get your stuff off the stage.
7:48
SPEAKER_02: No, you can you can cuss shit.
7:49
SPEAKER_02: L fuck, fart.
7:50
SPEAKER_02: I don't care.
7:52
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, poop.
7:55
SPEAKER_04: Go ahead.
7:57
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's just the craziness of getting stuff off the stage.
8:00
SPEAKER_04: Like it just, I don't know.
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SPEAKER_04: It just passed my mind.
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SPEAKER_04: Like I thought I I thought I grabbed it.
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SPEAKER_04: So Yeah.
8:06
SPEAKER_04: And I never got that base back.
8:08
SPEAKER_04: Some no for some reason it ended up all the way in New York.
8:11
SPEAKER_04: And he was just like, Yeah, we can send it to you, but you gotta pay all the shipping and everything.
8:16
SPEAKER_04: And I was just like, you know what?
8:17
SPEAKER_04: Just keep it.
8:19
SPEAKER_04: So I just freaking bananas.
8:21
SPEAKER_04: Someone got a free bass that day, so and then after that I got my L T D that I have.
8:27
SPEAKER_04: I'm not I'm not good with names on them, so yeah.
8:30
SPEAKER_04: But that that that thing I love.
8:33
SPEAKER_04: Like my first bass was a five-string, and I kind of miss it.
8:36
SPEAKER_04: So I have a four-string.
8:37
SPEAKER_04: That's the one that ended up in New York?
8:38
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
8:38
SPEAKER_04: Oh shit.
8:41
SPEAKER_02: A five-string Ibanez too.
8:42
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
8:44
SPEAKER_02: I always wanted one of those in high school.
8:46
SPEAKER_02: But then I when I finally got one, I was like, what else am I gonna do?
8:52
SPEAKER_02: Because you just want to do the fieldie thing, but when it comes to it, yeah.
8:55
SPEAKER_02: But damn, that's banana.
8:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
8:58
SPEAKER_02: When when I'm on stage and when I was tearing down that's I'm paranoid as hell.
9:04
SPEAKER_02: Like I I freak out.
9:05
SPEAKER_02: I was like, give me my equipment, where's all my cables?
9:07
SPEAKER_02: Then you go to wireless, you don't need cables, and you're just like, ah, but still, I I can't.
9:12
SPEAKER_02: The horror stories.
9:12
SPEAKER_02: I was at Gator's and I forgot which band was playing.
9:16
SPEAKER_02: I think it was they were opening for Devil Driver, the opening band.
9:19
SPEAKER_02: And then somebody got into the trailer and just took out all their guitars and just smashed the shit out of all their guitars.
9:25
SPEAKER_02: Wow.
9:26
SPEAKER_02: All the lights came on, and they were coming in, the opening band, and they were yelling at the crowd, who did this?
9:31
SPEAKER_02: And they'd be like, Look at this.
9:32
SPEAKER_02: And I was like, whoa, and they just had their guitar.
9:34
SPEAKER_02: Can you just imagine your guitar in half?
9:36
SPEAKER_02: And they're like, bullshit.
9:37
SPEAKER_02: And they were throwing it on the ground.
9:39
SPEAKER_02: I was like, oh, I was young when I saw that.
9:41
SPEAKER_02: I was so young.
9:42
SPEAKER_02: And then oh my god.
9:44
SPEAKER_02: Like, and I went out with the ninjas a long time ago in 2010.
9:49
SPEAKER_02: And I think we stopped in Flagstaff, maybe.
9:54
SPEAKER_02: And I just remembered my guitar was gone.
9:57
SPEAKER_02: I was like, what the fuck is my guitar?
9:58
SPEAKER_02: It was a Gibson SG.
9:59
SPEAKER_02: And I was like, uh, uh no, and then they're like, chill out, we brought it in for you.
10:03
SPEAKER_02: I was like, oh, holy shit.
10:05
SPEAKER_02: Like, I cannot.
10:07
SPEAKER_04: And I don't know.
10:08
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
10:09
SPEAKER_04: I've gotten better over it over the years, you know, experience and stuff like that.
10:13
SPEAKER_04: I'm just like, I gotta put all my stuff in this bag and make sure it's in there.
10:17
SPEAKER_04: So do you take a lot?
10:19
SPEAKER_04: Um, I just have my half stack, um, one pedal, well, two pedal boards, and just my bass, and then you know, all the craziness, the wires and everything.
10:29
SPEAKER_04: So yeah.
10:34
SPEAKER_02: That was a moment of silence for your base.
10:37
SPEAKER_02: Definitely was.
10:38
SPEAKER_02: Hell yeah.
10:39
SPEAKER_02: Hell yeah, dude.
10:41
SPEAKER_07: So what's up, Travis?
10:44
SPEAKER_03: Not a whole lot.
10:46
SPEAKER_03: The vocalist is waiting to speak.
10:48
SPEAKER_03: The glisszy man.
10:49
SPEAKER_03: The glizzy man.
10:50
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, part of the glizzy man.
10:52
SPEAKER_03: I was hoping for a hot dog when we got here.
10:54
SPEAKER_02: Dude, I I should have asked you.
10:56
SPEAKER_02: Do you guys want anything?
10:57
SPEAKER_04: You know, I'm I'm surprised he didn't appreciate it.
11:01
SPEAKER_02: I could have.
11:01
SPEAKER_02: Hey, I'm gonna give you a potato hat.
11:04
SPEAKER_02: No, I appreciate the water, man.
11:05
SPEAKER_02: It's that's great.
11:06
SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
11:06
SPEAKER_02: Appreciate it.
11:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there's there's plenty, and I'm gonna send the rest home with all you guys.
11:10
SPEAKER_02: I got you guys all a box of it.
11:12
SPEAKER_02: So cool.
11:14
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, let's let's jump back into your life.
11:17
SPEAKER_02: When when when did you become a singer?
11:18
SPEAKER_02: Were you always wanted to be the singer?
11:20
SPEAKER_02: Uh no.
11:21
SPEAKER_02: How's the singer become the singer?
11:22
SPEAKER_03: I uh I originally wanted to do drums.
11:26
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I did a percussion in mid school all the way up into junior high.
11:30
SPEAKER_03: Uh played in the school band, um, but it which didn't really move on to anything else, just the snare.
11:37
SPEAKER_03: Oh, okay.
11:37
SPEAKER_03: You know, I was on the snare line of uh in mid school and junior high.
11:41
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah.
11:42
SPEAKER_03: And then after that, it just I don't know, I just blossomed into something else and you know, wanted to do other things.
11:49
SPEAKER_03: Couldn't make up my mind, and you know, I wanted to do guitar, I wanted to do bass, I wanted to do everything, but I just didn't have the the patience or the coordination to do it.
11:59
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
12:00
SPEAKER_03: But you know, I I um went to my first concert in '97, it was Pantera.
12:06
SPEAKER_03: Whoa! Oh shit.
12:08
SPEAKER_03: Went to see Pantera in Albuquerque at the convention center.
12:11
SPEAKER_03: It was with uh uh Cold Chamber, Anthrax, and uh I don't know.
12:17
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it was yeah, we got there right when Cold Chamber hit the stage, and after them was anthrax, but it was it was the vocals, it was that's what did it for me.
12:27
SPEAKER_03: Seeing it live and also the drums, you know, hearing that yeah, that kick hit the channel.
12:33
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
12:34
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but it's like um anthrax came on and they um they played and you know, like in middle intermission, so to speak.
12:44
SPEAKER_03: Uh Phil and Dimebag came out during Anthrax's set.
12:48
SPEAKER_03: Phil had this big old furry coat on, and he had a beanie and a big old bottle of wine, and um Dimebag over here had a big old bong, and they were just you know talking to the crowd, and they started breaking into Slayer.
13:01
SPEAKER_03: What?
13:02
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
13:03
SPEAKER_03: They were they played a Slayer song, and it was that first note of Phil just hitting that high, that that scream, and I was just like, holy shit, you know.
13:13
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and that's that's where I kind of just fell in love with it, that the vocal part.
13:18
SPEAKER_03: And you know, I tried to find different trying to find the vibe, I guess, of what I wanted to do and how I wanted to pursue it.
13:25
SPEAKER_03: And you know, I grew up in in a country home, country family.
13:28
SPEAKER_03: So guitars and Cadillacs.
13:31
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, a lot of country music.
13:33
SPEAKER_03: And um, you know, my age, you know, it's just you know, you know, growing up it was um it was always country.
13:39
SPEAKER_03: You know, my my grandparents, you know, when I hung out with them and you know, herd sheep and did chores around the house, it was always country.
13:48
SPEAKER_03: You know, my grandma had her little radio, her transistor radio that comes from far away.
13:53
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
13:56
SPEAKER_03: But yeah, it was it was always country, country music, but then you know, like I said, the the first experience of metal music was that was that live show.
14:05
SPEAKER_03: But initially, you know, the audio side of just hearing rock or metal in general, you know, it's crazy, it was Motley Crue.
14:12
SPEAKER_03: You know, my my cousins and them, they um they had the they had Motley Crew going.
14:19
SPEAKER_03: If it wasn't Motley, it was it was Sepultura, it was Yeah, you know, it was it was like the the Metallica songs and you know, just early, early 90s metal, and you know, I just kind of gravitated toward that.
14:33
SPEAKER_03: And what really did me in on that side was was White Zombie.
14:37
SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah, AstroCreepeep 2000.
14:39
SPEAKER_03: When I first heard it, I was like, whoa shit.
14:42
SPEAKER_03: I was hooked after that.
14:43
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, like that's where I initiated myself into metal.
14:49
SPEAKER_02: That's when I I started with uh my new job like in July, or no, like June, and my boss was all like, Do you have Dreadlucks?
14:58
SPEAKER_02: I was like, Yeah, yeah.
15:00
SPEAKER_02: He's like, You like Rage Against the Machine?
15:02
SPEAKER_02: I was like, I do love Rage Against the Machine.
15:04
SPEAKER_02: Nice.
15:05
SPEAKER_02: He's like, You like uh, you like you know who white zombie is?
15:08
SPEAKER_02: I was like, Damn.
15:10
SPEAKER_02: He went like this.
15:11
SPEAKER_02: He had a big old white zombie logo on his text.
15:14
SPEAKER_02: My boss, my boss, white hair, old, you know, like the like a big company guy.
15:19
SPEAKER_02: He pulls up, what the fuck, dude?
15:21
SPEAKER_02: Then he goes over, he pulls out his vinyls, he has like hellbilly deluxe and all these things right there.
15:26
SPEAKER_01: He's like, look at that, look at that.
15:27
SPEAKER_02: Look at that, I was like, what the fuck, dude?
15:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I think he just he was just like itching to get that out because none of those kids at my work listened.
15:33
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, none of them, none of them.
15:36
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, oh gosh, I see, I see where you just want to relate to somebody else.
15:40
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's a funny story you mentioned that because we were I was with my daughter at a truck stop, you know, going to pit stop, and my daughter had a Rob Zombie shirt on, and this trucker guy came up to us and he goes, Hey, you guys like zombie?
15:54
SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, Hell yeah, you know.
15:56
SPEAKER_03: And then my daughter was like, Oh yeah, I love Rob Zombie.
15:58
SPEAKER_03: And you know, she's at a age where she's getting into music too, and she was like, Yeah, Rob Zombie.
16:03
SPEAKER_03: Oh nice.
16:04
SPEAKER_03: But he did the same thing, he had the the pink monster on his forearm.
16:07
SPEAKER_03: I was like, Oh, hell yeah, you know.
16:09
SPEAKER_03: But you know, you the community is pretty big when when you go out there in public and people recognize things and they see it.
16:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
16:16
SPEAKER_02: They're really friendly about it too.
16:18
SPEAKER_02: Oh hell yeah.
16:20
SPEAKER_03: For sure.
16:21
SPEAKER_02: So you got into the the singing you're into now.
16:25
SPEAKER_02: Did you want to be a screamer?
16:26
SPEAKER_02: Did you want to be a singer, a vocalist?
16:29
SPEAKER_02: Oh man, it was um Did you start somewhere first and then work your way up?
16:35
SPEAKER_03: I not really.
16:37
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I just kind of gravitated toward it and trying to, like I said, trying to find a groove, trying to find that that vibe.
16:43
SPEAKER_03: And what really did me in was like I said, Astro Creep was a start.
16:47
SPEAKER_03: You know, I like I loved how Rob hit those lows, and then he had changed it up and hit the Were you just kind of trying it yourself?
16:53
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and I was just like, I can do this.
16:55
SPEAKER_03: But you know, what what I real like I said, what I really loved and what really drew me in was the screams that that Phil was doing.
17:03
SPEAKER_03: Oh and I was like, oh shit, that's that's tight, you know, just those highs, and then eventually Cold Chamber came out.
17:10
SPEAKER_03: And then just you know, the first uh it was that first Ozfest compilation CD that they released, and Loco was the first track on it.
17:17
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
17:17
SPEAKER_03: And I was like, holy shit, who the fuck is the?
17:20
SPEAKER_03: You know, who the hell are you?
17:22
SPEAKER_03: He's like, Yeah, you know, just like I was pulled in.
17:26
SPEAKER_03: That's so cool.
17:27
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I was pulling after that, and you know, that's where I kind of felt the vibe, you know.
17:32
SPEAKER_03: That's where I wanted to that's what I wanted to try.
17:35
SPEAKER_03: So I started singing that way, and then Sepultura came into the mix, and then Soul Fly, and I was just like, holy shit, now I gotta do my homework and do all these, you know, listen to all these albums and and do you know, just find, like I said, find that vibe.
17:51
SPEAKER_03: But uh the ground, the ground, you know, the the groundwork was a bent, you know, was Pantera.
17:58
SPEAKER_03: You know, I just love the way the band was, and you know, it was it was at first it was just the the music, but then you you see the the backside of it, you know, the party vibes and all that craziness, and I was just like, holy shit, these guys are crazy.
18:13
SPEAKER_03: But you know, like I said, it was just the the vet the the vocals of you know Phil and Selmo, you know, Des Fafera, and then Max Caballera, and then eventually, you know, you get into the newer stuff like like Wayne, you know, Wayne Static was just the major major, dude.
18:29
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, static X.
18:30
SPEAKER_03: RIP.
18:31
SPEAKER_03: Yep, exactly.
18:32
SPEAKER_04: Static X is close to us.
18:34
SPEAKER_04: That's why we do cover the song Push It.
18:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, uh that's like really got me looking at God, like what the fuck?
18:40
unknown: What the fuck?
18:41
SPEAKER_02: Whoa! Whoa, these guys, you know?
18:44
SPEAKER_02: Oh my god, that was so freaking cool.
18:46
SPEAKER_02: I saw it on POT's video and he sent it to me.
18:48
SPEAKER_02: He's like, check it out, these guys did push it.
18:50
SPEAKER_02: Was it push it?
18:51
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, and I was like, what the fuck?
18:54
SPEAKER_02: And you guys did um Rob Zombie too, didn't you?
18:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, Super Beast.
18:58
SPEAKER_03: Super Beast.
18:59
SPEAKER_02: Holy shit.
19:00
SPEAKER_04: Well, yeah, that was that one was a super fun one to play.
19:03
SPEAKER_04: It looked fun.
19:05
SPEAKER_04: I was like kind of weary on it when we first agreed on it.
19:08
SPEAKER_04: I was like, man, I don't know if I'll be able to do this, but you know, just playing it over and over and getting that groove.
19:14
SPEAKER_04: It's so funny.
19:15
SPEAKER_04: Such a fun song that we're gonna do.
19:18
SPEAKER_02: I thought the guitar player was looking like he was having these little in that video.
19:23
SPEAKER_02: I was like, that's fucking dope.
19:25
SPEAKER_04: The first time that we played it, we didn't we didn't have him.
19:29
SPEAKER_04: So it kind of just I don't know, it kind of sounded weird.
19:33
SPEAKER_04: But the next show we played at the mod, we had him, and that blew us away too when he was doing all of that.
19:38
SPEAKER_04: I was like, dude, this sounds just like it.
19:43
SPEAKER_02: Just waiting for it.
19:43
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, I would have lost my shit.
19:46
SPEAKER_02: I would I I don't go to shows that much anymore.
19:49
SPEAKER_02: I wish I could, but I I want to start doing things like giveaways more.
19:53
SPEAKER_02: I gave away tickets to the last last badge of this.
19:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and then that came out of my pocket.
19:58
SPEAKER_02: You know, I bought those two tickets and I was just like, you know, I want to start doing that.
20:01
SPEAKER_02: Like, if I don't go, I want to buy tickets for somebody else to go.
20:04
SPEAKER_02: Like, go ahead, go.
20:05
SPEAKER_02: Free.
20:06
SPEAKER_02: It's a free show, dude.
20:07
SPEAKER_02: Go, you know.
20:09
SPEAKER_02: But yeah.
20:10
SPEAKER_02: Hell yeah.
20:10
SPEAKER_02: That's pretty cool though.
20:11
SPEAKER_02: I I like that.
20:12
SPEAKER_02: Like you got all the inspirations that I had in my head when I wanted to do it.
20:16
SPEAKER_02: You know, I wanted to sing.
20:18
SPEAKER_02: Another one that uh that really inspired me was um Jeffrey Nothing and uh what's his name?
20:23
SPEAKER_02: From Mushroom Head.
20:24
SPEAKER_02: You ever listen to Mushroom Head?
20:25
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, yeah.
20:26
SPEAKER_02: Uh not not the not Whalen, but the other guy.
20:29
SPEAKER_02: What the hell was his name?
20:30
SPEAKER_02: My mind slipped just now.
20:32
SPEAKER_02: Whalen was the replacement.
20:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
20:34
SPEAKER_02: J-Man.
20:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I was like, J-Man.
20:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
20:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
20:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that song.
20:38
SPEAKER_02: I think it's called like Womp.
20:39
SPEAKER_02: Womp.
20:40
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
20:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
20:41
SPEAKER_02: Just the way he was like, oh Roll.
20:45
SPEAKER_01: It's like, oh, I can do that.
20:47
SPEAKER_02: And I was trying it.
20:48
SPEAKER_01: And the here's a loser.
20:54
SPEAKER_08: Oh god.
20:54
SPEAKER_03: Just screaming that.
20:55
SPEAKER_03: And yeah, I was in um, I was in Albuquerque with my with my family at the time when when Wisconsin came out.
21:02
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
21:03
SPEAKER_03: We were walking by the the hot topic.
21:07
SPEAKER_03: When it was cool, yeah.
21:08
SPEAKER_03: When they had when they had CDs, and I was like, before they had Biggie and Tupac in there.
21:12
SPEAKER_03: And a bunch of anime stuff.
21:15
SPEAKER_03: We were walking by and I you know I glanced at the CDs, and just then, you know, that first click of the snare of push it came on.
21:23
SPEAKER_03: I'm like, holy shit, who the fuck is this?
21:26
SPEAKER_03: And you know, I asked the the clerk and he was like, static X.
21:31
SPEAKER_03: But you know, the CDs at the time there were like 16, almost$20.
21:36
SPEAKER_03: And I'm just like, you know what?
21:37
SPEAKER_03: Fuck it.
21:38
SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna wait till I get home.
21:39
SPEAKER_03: I'm going to Sam Good.
21:42
SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
21:42
SPEAKER_03: That's what I did.
21:44
SPEAKER_03: The good old days.
21:45
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
21:45
SPEAKER_03: Right.
21:46
SPEAKER_03: I remember we hauled ass from Albuquerque going home, and you know, we stopped at the local mall, the Rio West Mall, the great rural West Mall.
21:55
SPEAKER_03: And it was funny because it wasn't Sam Goody there.
21:57
SPEAKER_03: And then I went in there and I was like, You guys got whiskey?
22:00
SPEAKER_03: Wisconsin.
22:00
SPEAKER_03: They're like, yeah, it's right there.
22:02
SPEAKER_03: 10 bucks.
22:02
SPEAKER_03: Oh shit.
22:04
SPEAKER_03: There you go.
22:05
SPEAKER_03: I remember just cranking that fucker all the way home.
22:08
SPEAKER_03: It was just, it was great.
22:10
SPEAKER_03: It was fucking insane.
22:11
SPEAKER_03: It was lovely.
22:12
SPEAKER_03: I miss CDs.
22:12
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
22:13
SPEAKER_02: For reels, right?
22:14
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
22:14
SPEAKER_04: They were more delicate.
22:15
SPEAKER_04: You had to really take care of it.
22:16
SPEAKER_04: Definitely.
22:17
SPEAKER_04: And having that big old CD player in the pocket.
22:20
SPEAKER_04: And jock pools.
22:21
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
22:22
SPEAKER_04: Your flips.
22:23
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
22:23
SPEAKER_03: The one with the belt clip.
22:27
SPEAKER_03: Walking in right there.
22:29
SPEAKER_03: The sport, the sports series.
22:31
SPEAKER_03: It was yellow or orange.
22:33
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, with all the little buttons.
22:35
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, had the locking case on top.
22:37
SPEAKER_03: So you're when you're running or doing whatever, it doesn't open automatically.
22:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was like eighth grade.
22:44
SPEAKER_02: I really wanted a jog proof CD player, and my mom and daddy got this like$53 for a CD player.
22:50
SPEAKER_02: Holy shit.
22:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
22:51
SPEAKER_02: But now look, you can pay$10 and you can Spotify all the albums you want.
22:56
SPEAKER_03: Don't they have the actual CD player in the museum now?
22:59
SPEAKER_02: They do.
22:59
SPEAKER_02: Like little kids are like, what the fuck?
23:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
23:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
23:02
SPEAKER_02: I told that story about I think I was talking to, I don't know who I was talking to.
23:05
SPEAKER_02: They brought the the girl was on at Target buying vinyls.
23:09
SPEAKER_02: And that mom was like, We don't even have a vinyl player.
23:12
SPEAKER_02: And she's like, No, it comes inside of it there.
23:14
SPEAKER_02: The player is inside.
23:15
SPEAKER_02: We need a player to play that vinyl.
23:16
SPEAKER_02: It's like, mom, you don't even get it.
23:18
SPEAKER_07: It's like, you don't fucking get it.
23:20
SPEAKER_02: It's like, ah, and it's like kind of that's us with our CDs.
23:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
23:26
SPEAKER_02: They're gone.
23:26
SPEAKER_02: They're gone.
23:27
SPEAKER_02: All the CDs are gone.
23:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
23:29
SPEAKER_02: You find CDs.
23:30
SPEAKER_04: Even like MP3 players and stuff like that.
23:32
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
23:32
SPEAKER_04: I remember having the Zune.
23:34
SPEAKER_04: I don't know if you remember the C.
23:35
SPEAKER_04: I remember Zoom.
23:37
SPEAKER_04: Nothing held so much music.
23:38
SPEAKER_02: Like were they made under?
23:40
SPEAKER_02: Macintosh?
23:43
SPEAKER_02: Microsoft.
23:43
SPEAKER_02: Microsoft, yeah.
23:44
SPEAKER_02: Macintosh.
23:44
SPEAKER_02: That's how it's I started with an M.
23:50
SPEAKER_02: You were almost there.
23:51
SPEAKER_02: I was almost there.
23:52
SPEAKER_02: I was on the right path.
23:53
SPEAKER_02: But no.
23:54
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
23:54
SPEAKER_02: I remember Zune.
23:55
SPEAKER_02: I was just like, I love my Zune.
23:58
SPEAKER_04: It crashed on me.
23:59
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, same with mine.
24:02
SPEAKER_03: Still have my iPod.
24:05
SPEAKER_03: Everything's on our phones now.
24:07
SPEAKER_03: It's pretty insane.
24:08
SPEAKER_02: That is.
24:08
SPEAKER_02: That's freaking nuts.
24:10
SPEAKER_02: My teacher always used to be like, you're not always gonna have a calculator in your pocket.
24:13
unknown: Yeah.
24:14
SPEAKER_03: You know?
24:15
SPEAKER_03: That's nuts.
24:16
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
24:17
SPEAKER_03: Everything's everything's digitalized, and um, it's it's you know, even for a job interview, I went to a job interview, and the lady was like, if you want to use your calculator, go ahead.
24:27
SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, I don't have one, it's on your phone.
24:29
SPEAKER_03: How the hell do you know that?
24:31
SPEAKER_03: You know, pull out a flip phone.
24:32
SPEAKER_03: Does it have to be the focus of doing a test on a job application?
24:36
SPEAKER_03: But I was like, all right, whatever.
24:38
SPEAKER_03: You know, if it's if it's there, it's there.
24:40
SPEAKER_02: I seriously hate that.
24:41
SPEAKER_02: Job hunting in March and May.
24:45
SPEAKER_02: You know, download an app, you know, log into this, you know, make an account for this, use your email for that.
24:50
SPEAKER_02: I was like, gosh.
24:51
SPEAKER_04: So now you gotta do like a whole resume to everything.
24:55
SPEAKER_04: Turn in an application anymore.
24:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I don't know shit about a resume.
24:59
SPEAKER_02: I had a job for almost 15 years, then I had to get a new job and a resume?
25:04
SPEAKER_02: Like, what do I know about resume?
25:06
SPEAKER_02: My girl had to type it out for me.
25:07
SPEAKER_02: She's like, here, I'll do it for us.
25:08
SPEAKER_02: What are you good at?
25:09
SPEAKER_02: What do you know how to do?
25:10
SPEAKER_02: What's your skills?
25:11
SPEAKER_02: Bull hunting skills, you know.
25:13
SPEAKER_02: Nunchucks, nunch skills, forks.
25:18
SPEAKER_02: I'm pretty good with forks, you know.
25:20
unknown: Like, what the fuck?
25:21
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, she typed it all out, made it look legit, and then I got way more job offers.
25:25
SPEAKER_02: It's like, oh, you're good at this, you're good at that.
25:27
SPEAKER_02: You know, I'm like, I I think so.
25:29
SPEAKER_01: Well, let me read it.
25:30
SPEAKER_01: What does she put?
25:31
SPEAKER_01: Right?
25:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and yeah, it's it's fun, but it's annoying.
25:35
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
25:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
25:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
25:37
SPEAKER_02: But cool, man.
25:38
SPEAKER_02: Hey, hey, hey, you sitting over there.
25:42
SPEAKER_02: All quiet.
25:43
SPEAKER_02: He's like, when is it my turn?
25:47
SPEAKER_02: But what does he say in that movie, The Dirt?
25:49
SPEAKER_01: Finally! My turn.
25:54
SPEAKER_01: Who is the drummer too?
25:55
SPEAKER_01: All right.
25:57
SPEAKER_01: We can take our time, Mark.
25:58
SPEAKER_08: This is your second time.
25:59
SPEAKER_08: Yeah, Mark.
26:03
SPEAKER_02: So, all right, Brandon.
26:06
SPEAKER_02: Back to you.
26:07
SPEAKER_02: Getting so much bass love.
26:10
SPEAKER_02: How's how's life been in the drumming business so far?
26:14
SPEAKER_02: How's things been?
26:15
SPEAKER_02: It's been good.
26:16
SPEAKER_02: Um man, it's been almost a year.
26:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
26:21
SPEAKER_02: I think we've got to.
26:22
SPEAKER_02: Well, not spoke.
26:22
SPEAKER_02: We saw you guys at freaking sick new world.
26:25
SPEAKER_02: I think it was back in July.
26:27
SPEAKER_02: So July last year.
26:29
SPEAKER_06: July last year.
26:30
SPEAKER_06: Holy smokes that.
26:31
SPEAKER_06: But um, yeah, everything's been good.
26:34
SPEAKER_06: Um, like I said, I think back then I was just letting everyone know that I was planning on, you know, leaving my job just so I could pursue music a lot more.
26:45
SPEAKER_02: Dude, I still look up to that.
26:47
SPEAKER_02: That's that takes a lot.
26:49
SPEAKER_02: And I left my job in like that takes a lot.
26:54
SPEAKER_02: To be like, you know, you know, you're gonna go play this show, and then what did they say?
26:59
SPEAKER_02: You we can't you need you here, and you're like, well, I'm out.
27:02
SPEAKER_02: Bye.
27:03
SPEAKER_02: I don't need the job.
27:04
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna go do what I love more better.
27:06
SPEAKER_02: That's that's some fucking cool shit.
27:08
SPEAKER_02: Right?
27:08
SPEAKER_02: I look up to that.
27:09
SPEAKER_02: That's been in my head the whole year.
27:11
SPEAKER_02: Even when I lot like lost my job or left my job, I I took a month off because I was just like, you know, I don't want to work.
27:18
SPEAKER_02: I don't want to go back to work.
27:19
SPEAKER_02: And when I actually went back to work, I was like, fuck, I hate work.
27:22
SPEAKER_02: And I was trying to figure out some way to not go to work no more, and it was just ridiculous.
27:27
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, I was I thought of you for a good minute.
27:30
SPEAKER_02: I was just like, you know, it it takes a lot to do what you love opposed to what you know, work.
27:37
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, so I yeah, I had a lot to think about, but our it was already the choice was already, you know, made.
27:44
SPEAKER_06: I was just like, you know, it it was already hard enough, you know, seeing my other bandmates post stuff on you know their Instagram as they're out on tour and I'm I'm over here stuck at work, like fuck, you know, I wish I could be there.
27:57
SPEAKER_06: I could I could be there right now, but you know, I'm stuck here and I really need to be here.
28:03
SPEAKER_06: So just that just it just really ate up, you know, ate me up inside.
28:07
SPEAKER_06: And it's just like fuck man.
28:09
SPEAKER_06: It's just you know, just just seeing that.
28:11
SPEAKER_06: It was just like, man, I'd I'd rather be out there doing that, you know, than you know, doing doing the same exact thing you know, I've been doing here at work.
28:22
SPEAKER_06: And you know, I was there for like 11 years and just to think about it, I was just like, holy shit, I did the same thing, you know, every day.
28:32
SPEAKER_06: Same, you know, go here, go there.
28:35
SPEAKER_06: And it's it's just it's just insane to think about.
28:39
SPEAKER_06: And now it's just been over a year since I left, and you know, I have um I'm in my uh my girlfriend's uh pet sitting business.
28:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
28:50
SPEAKER_02: Is that still going on today?
28:52
SPEAKER_06: Oh yeah, it's it's it's busy.
28:55
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, it picks up.
28:56
SPEAKER_06: Um it picks up like during like the holiday seasons.
28:59
SPEAKER_06: So like I would say like Thanksgiving during Thanksgiving and like Christmas, it's it gets busy.
29:08
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
29:09
SPEAKER_06: You know, people are going out of town, you know, want to be with their families, and most of the time, you know, they don't want to take their pets, you know.
29:17
SPEAKER_06: I mean, they could have like a senior pet who's just you know old and you know don't like to travel.
29:22
SPEAKER_06: So I mean with that too, you know, we we we we um we cater to like senior pets and you know all sorts of pets, I guess you could say.
29:34
SPEAKER_06: Hell yeah.
29:34
SPEAKER_06: It doesn't matter, you know, the breed or or anything like that.
29:38
SPEAKER_06: It's just we'll and we also we specialize in um well my girlfriend does, like um, like exotic pack pets, like iguanas, lizards, and you know, just other, you know, just animals and you guys get like snakes and stuff.
29:54
SPEAKER_06: Um she does from time to time.
29:56
SPEAKER_06: Me, I'm just like, no, I don't think I don't want to handle a snake.
30:01
SPEAKER_02: My girl and I were talking about that because uh she she came across some spiders, and I'm not scared of spiders at all.
30:08
SPEAKER_02: Like a spider will crawl on me and be like, oh, hello there.
30:11
SPEAKER_00: My name is James.
30:13
SPEAKER_02: You know, I don't give a fuck, bro.
30:15
SPEAKER_02: I'll be like, hey, take this out.
30:17
SPEAKER_02: And I was hanging, we were hanging out at her house, and then she was like laying like right here beside me.
30:22
SPEAKER_02: Then her daughter comes in, hey mom, look, spider, and she just throws it on us and she's like she's jumping, like, give me that, give me that.
30:30
SPEAKER_02: I took it and I put it in a cup.
30:31
SPEAKER_02: I was like, look at it.
30:32
SPEAKER_02: It was like charging like this, it was pissed off.
30:34
SPEAKER_02: Oh damn.
30:35
SPEAKER_02: And she I was like, Are you really that scared of spiders?
30:38
SPEAKER_02: She's like, I don't like spiders, I don't like things like this.
30:40
SPEAKER_02: I don't like, what are you scared of?
30:43
SPEAKER_02: I was like, uh, I wanna say I'm getting over it, but snakes, I guess.
30:49
SPEAKER_02: I think I can walk up to a snake and pick it up.
30:52
SPEAKER_02: And I was like, when I seen how many people are like really freaked out by snakes, I'm like, here, I'll grab it, you know.
30:59
SPEAKER_02: I'll jump in there, a little danger noodle, pick it up and be like, but that's what I was thinking.
31:05
SPEAKER_02: I was like, you guys handle snakes?
31:07
SPEAKER_02: Even if they're in a cage and they're quiet, like here, he's a sweetheart.
31:11
SPEAKER_02: Does it stink?
31:12
SPEAKER_02: Is my hand gonna stink when you hold it?
31:13
SPEAKER_02: I heard they smell like onions.
31:15
SPEAKER_02: Do they?
31:16
SPEAKER_02: I have no clue.
31:16
SPEAKER_02: Oh, wait, wait, you say you don't even ask her.
31:19
SPEAKER_02: Do snakes smell like onions?
31:23
SPEAKER_04: They have a Mark and his girlfriend, they have an iguana, and I think I would be more scared of that.
31:28
SPEAKER_04: For real?
31:29
SPEAKER_04: How big is your iguana?
31:30
SPEAKER_06: Uh well, it's my girlfriend's iguana.
31:32
SPEAKER_06: I uh I don't even know how big he is.
31:35
SPEAKER_06: He's like a pretty good size.
31:37
SPEAKER_06: He's long, he's pretty long.
31:40
SPEAKER_08: He's like pretty good, pretty good size.
31:42
SPEAKER_04: Last time we were there, like the person that was handling him got like scratched up on the arm and stuff like that.
31:47
SPEAKER_04: But like the claws, though.
31:49
SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah.
31:49
SPEAKER_04: And they have sharp teeth too.
31:51
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so and then they can they have that tail that can whip you too.
31:55
SPEAKER_04: So they're just dangerous all over the place.
31:59
SPEAKER_03: That's gonna be a lot.
32:01
SPEAKER_03: They have a mean bite.
32:02
SPEAKER_06: Do they bite?
32:03
SPEAKER_06: Oh, yeah, they do.
32:04
SPEAKER_06: My my girlfriends got bitten in the fingers, and I'm like, yeah, I kind of need my fingers, you know.
32:11
SPEAKER_06: I'm like, yeah, so that's why I stay away.
32:15
SPEAKER_02: How do you come to take care of an iguana though?
32:18
SPEAKER_02: Is it just because it looks cool?
32:20
SPEAKER_02: I have no clue how do you gotta like keep the room temperature a certain temperature?
32:24
SPEAKER_04: You gotta keep them humid, kind of wet.
32:27
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
32:28
SPEAKER_04: So they really do like the humidity, so you just gotta, I don't know, like if you don't have a humid area, like with what Mark does, they just spray them with the spray bottle.
32:38
SPEAKER_06: Oh wow.
32:39
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, and then he's just basking under his heat lamp majority of the time, too.
32:44
SPEAKER_06: So but when they shed though, they they get pissy.
32:48
SPEAKER_06: They get pissy.
32:51
SPEAKER_06: But yeah, my my girlfriend handles him a lot, so I I don't do any of that.
32:56
SPEAKER_06: And I'm just like walk by and wave.
32:58
SPEAKER_06: Hey, yeah, I can I go close to him, then you can see him, he gets all perky and everything.
33:03
SPEAKER_06: I'm like, all right, I'll back away, you shed.
33:07
SPEAKER_06: He's like that.
33:08
SPEAKER_06: Sorry, I invaded like five you know feet of your space, damn.
33:14
SPEAKER_03: You have to give me three feet, right?
33:20
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, but he's a cool iguana though.
33:22
SPEAKER_06: His his name's Kaiju.
33:23
SPEAKER_06: Nice kaiju.
33:24
SPEAKER_06: Kaiju.
33:25
SPEAKER_06: Kaiju?
33:25
SPEAKER_06: Where does kaiju come from?
33:26
SPEAKER_06: Uh well kaiju is like Is that an anime?
33:30
SPEAKER_06: Well, I hope no one like corrects me.
33:35
SPEAKER_06: I guess you could say it's like the Japanese word for monster.
33:38
SPEAKER_06: Oh.
33:39
SPEAKER_06: Kaiju?
33:39
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
33:40
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
33:40
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
33:41
SPEAKER_06: Well, yeah, like just like Godzilla is a kaiju or King Dora is a kaiju, um Gamera is a kaiju.
33:48
SPEAKER_06: So it's just you know, it's just the word for monster.
33:51
SPEAKER_02: Where does Pokemon come from?
33:52
SPEAKER_02: Isn't Pokemon pocket monster?
33:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
33:55
SPEAKER_02: How do you say is that a completely different word?
33:58
SPEAKER_02: I have no clue.
33:59
SPEAKER_02: I mean, yeah, I don't know.
34:01
SPEAKER_08: I've always known at Jackie Chan.
34:02
SPEAKER_04: He's like, I don't Yeah, I know in back of the back in the days they used to say pocket monster on the back of the hands.
34:09
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
34:10
SPEAKER_04: I just remember that very vivid, not very vividly, but just to a certain extent.
34:16
SPEAKER_04: Um, I was more of a Yu-Gi-Oh person.
34:18
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
34:19
SPEAKER_04: As long as you weren't a Digimon person.
34:22
SPEAKER_04: I like Digimon, I like Digimon.
34:24
SPEAKER_04: I like Digimon.
34:27
SPEAKER_00: Hey Digimon, hey Digimon, you know.
34:29
SPEAKER_00: Champions of the digital world.
34:31
SPEAKER_08: Digital monsters.
34:32
SPEAKER_02: Digimon are the champions.
34:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
34:34
SPEAKER_02: I know what the Agumon, Digimon too, you know.
34:37
SPEAKER_02: I know what that is.
34:37
SPEAKER_04: The game was so cool though, the Digimon game.
34:40
SPEAKER_04: I thought that was cool.
34:42
SPEAKER_02: I had uh third grade, I was a little third grader.
34:45
SPEAKER_02: That's 1998, yeah.
34:47
SPEAKER_02: I had Digimon.
34:48
SPEAKER_02: You know folders?
34:49
SPEAKER_02: Did you ever you guys ever go to school?
34:51
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
34:51
SPEAKER_02: And you had to take folders.
34:52
SPEAKER_02: You had a math folder, and it was just a thing.
34:54
SPEAKER_02: I and the coolest thing is when you brought the coolest folder, but Star Wars folders, Pokemon folders.
34:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I had Digimon folders.
35:01
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, that's cool.
35:03
SPEAKER_03: Trapper Keeper folder.
35:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that was the year of Pokemon, and fuck Pokemon.
35:08
SPEAKER_02: The movie came out, and here I'm over there with Digimon.
35:11
SPEAKER_02: Everyone's got Pokemon, but that's not a Pokemon, you know.
35:15
SPEAKER_02: Agumon.
35:16
SPEAKER_02: It is a monster.
35:17
SPEAKER_02: We got Charmander over here, you know.
35:18
SPEAKER_02: It's just like, oh fuck you.
35:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
35:22
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, I remember that.
35:24
SPEAKER_02: How do you say that?
35:25
SPEAKER_02: Kai kaiju?
35:25
SPEAKER_06: Kaiju.
35:26
SPEAKER_06: Kaiju.
35:27
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, kaiju.
35:28
SPEAKER_06: Wow.
35:28
SPEAKER_06: Could you grab me another drink?
35:31
SPEAKER_06: Another drink.
35:32
SPEAKER_06: Give me the cherry.
35:39
SPEAKER_03: I'm good right now.
35:40
SPEAKER_03: I'm good.
35:41
SPEAKER_03: I got my water still too.
35:42
SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
35:46
SPEAKER_06: Liquid death.
35:47
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35:54
SPEAKER_05: Damn, right?
35:56
SPEAKER_05: That would be cool.
35:57
SPEAKER_05: Liquid death for days.
35:59
SPEAKER_05: I'd be happy.
36:01
SPEAKER_05: Everything I guess is.
36:02
SPEAKER_05: Liquid deaf.
36:03
SPEAKER_05: Liquid death.
36:06
SPEAKER_02: You know, I haven't even tried any of those.
36:08
SPEAKER_02: Let me try one.
36:09
SPEAKER_06: Oh, they're pretty good.
36:10
SPEAKER_02: What is this one?
36:11
SPEAKER_06: So those are the like the sparkling water soda types.
36:16
SPEAKER_02: I've had the the black can and the white can.
36:18
SPEAKER_02: But when they first came out, I haven't had any like flavored ones.
36:21
SPEAKER_02: Well, I had the gold can.
36:23
SPEAKER_02: What's the gold one?
36:24
SPEAKER_02: Um I had that.
36:29
SPEAKER_06: I I have yet to try that one.
36:30
SPEAKER_02: I didn't really like it.
36:31
SPEAKER_02: I like the soda.
36:32
SPEAKER_02: You don't like that one?
36:33
SPEAKER_02: Have you tried it?
36:34
SPEAKER_02: I haven't never tried it.
36:35
SPEAKER_02: It tastes like a sharpened pencil.
36:37
SPEAKER_02: What the heck?
36:38
SPEAKER_02: Like the wood shapings.
36:39
SPEAKER_02: You dump wood shapings.
36:41
SPEAKER_02: I shouldn't say liquid death for the man who plays the metal.
36:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, liquid death.
36:49
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36:51
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37:04
SPEAKER_02: Oh wow, that's like a like a sprite.
37:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, definitely.
37:09
SPEAKER_04: They have a lot of flavors, too.
37:10
SPEAKER_04: There's another one I want to try that's grape.
37:12
SPEAKER_02: I drink a lot of bubbly.
37:14
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
37:16
SPEAKER_02: They have that new one right there.
37:17
SPEAKER_02: Uh sangria.
37:19
SPEAKER_02: Holy smokes.
37:20
SPEAKER_02: Wow.
37:21
SPEAKER_02: You know what I really started loving?
37:22
SPEAKER_02: See that clear cup?
37:23
SPEAKER_02: See those clear cups?
37:24
SPEAKER_02: Get a clear cup like that and fill it with ice and then dump something like this in there?
37:28
SPEAKER_02: I don't know why.
37:28
SPEAKER_02: It just makes it 10 times better.
37:30
SPEAKER_02: It does.
37:32
SPEAKER_04: I used to fill that way with Kool-Aid.
37:34
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
37:35
SPEAKER_04: Kool-Aid with some mice in there.
37:36
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
37:38
SPEAKER_04: It's like the most refreshing thing ever.
37:40
SPEAKER_04: Mm-hmm.
37:40
SPEAKER_02: Yep, yeah.
37:42
SPEAKER_02: I was like, whoa.
37:43
SPEAKER_02: And then I told my girl that.
37:45
SPEAKER_02: I was like, here, here, here, try this out.
37:47
SPEAKER_02: She's like, uh, with just ice?
37:48
SPEAKER_02: I was like, yeah.
37:50
SPEAKER_02: Wow.
37:51
SPEAKER_02: You know.
37:54
SPEAKER_02: But that is pretty good.
37:56
SPEAKER_02: I I I I almost got actually I got partnered with um this thing called what's it called?
38:03
SPEAKER_02: I don't remember what it's called.
38:05
SPEAKER_02: It was like an energy booster.
38:06
SPEAKER_02: Those things you go to go lift weights with and um you pour it in your drink.
38:10
SPEAKER_02: It's like a pre-workout.
38:12
SPEAKER_02: Pre-workout.
38:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
38:14
SPEAKER_02: It was like an energy.
38:16
SPEAKER_02: And they were like, Yeah, we'd love to work with you.
38:18
SPEAKER_02: And I was like, hmm.
38:19
SPEAKER_02: But then I did a bunch of reviews on them.
38:20
SPEAKER_02: I was like, I don't know if I really want to.
38:23
SPEAKER_02: I got scared.
38:24
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
38:25
SPEAKER_02: But yeah.
38:26
SPEAKER_02: That would be cool.
38:28
SPEAKER_02: That's good stuff.
38:29
SPEAKER_06: They're uh their teas are really good too.
38:31
SPEAKER_06: Oh yeah.
38:34
SPEAKER_02: The teas, I have not tried the teas.
38:36
SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah, they're pretty good.
38:38
SPEAKER_03: They have uh sodas like uh what is it, Dr.
38:41
SPEAKER_03: Death?
38:42
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, these are it right here.
38:43
SPEAKER_06: So this is Charlie.
38:44
SPEAKER_06: Charlie Obituary several.
38:45
SPEAKER_06: This is my favorite.
38:47
SPEAKER_06: Uh Dr.
38:48
SPEAKER_06: Death's another one.
38:49
SPEAKER_02: Um if you like grape soda, Kilbert grape is another good one.
38:53
SPEAKER_02: I saw them when I was picking these out, and I was like, oh wow, they have like a root beer one too.
38:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
38:58
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, Mark Mark introduced me to the whole world to liquid death.
39:01
SPEAKER_04: I thought they just had the water.
39:02
SPEAKER_04: I was like, what the hell?
39:03
SPEAKER_04: They have tea, they have sparkling water.
39:05
SPEAKER_02: I was like, I I remember it was like 2021, and then um they just had the water.
39:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
39:11
SPEAKER_02: Sparkling, they had regular water in the white can, and then they had splacked.
39:15
SPEAKER_02: Spark the buttons.
39:16
SPEAKER_02: I was like, ooh.
39:17
SPEAKER_04: One time I didn't know that the black was sparkling, and I chugged the buttons and I was just like, oh man, what is this?
39:22
SPEAKER_04: Tastes like TV statics.
39:25
SPEAKER_04: Drinking alcohol seltzer.
39:27
SPEAKER_04: Basically, yeah.
39:29
SPEAKER_04: I used to hate alcohol seltzer.
39:31
SPEAKER_01: I actually really love it.
39:32
SPEAKER_04: Right.
39:32
SPEAKER_04: I used to hate it too.
39:35
SPEAKER_02: It's a lifesaver.
39:36
SPEAKER_02: But I was it is but I found out I was putting too much water into my cup and then dumping one.
39:42
SPEAKER_02: You're only supposed to put like that much in there.
39:44
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
39:44
SPEAKER_02: That much water.
39:45
SPEAKER_02: I was putting a full cup in a boat because they did it in movies, so I like to see the thought it would turn out.
39:52
SPEAKER_04: That just reminds me of um the movie Toy Soldiers.
39:55
SPEAKER_04: Remember when the dude's sleeping on the couch and they put that in his drink and just see a bubble of the um small soldiers.
40:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, small soldiers, that's what it was.
40:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like the Phil Hartman's drinking.
40:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
40:05
SPEAKER_02: Or um what the heck was a uh final destination when he's waiting there and he's like and just he go Oh yeah.
40:12
SPEAKER_02: He jumped like three of them in there, and I just had one.
40:14
SPEAKER_02: I was like, oh, that's so cool.
40:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
40:17
SPEAKER_02: But then I drank it, I'm like, what's that?
40:21
SPEAKER_02: Takes a while to get used to um sparkling water, though.
40:24
SPEAKER_02: It it took me a minute, but I got addicted to it back in 2021, and I was like really skinny.
40:30
SPEAKER_02: Like skinny skinny.
40:31
SPEAKER_02: I was just living off fruits and like cauliflower rice, a whole shitload of vodka, and like nothing but bubbly.
40:41
SPEAKER_02: I got off soda and I wasn't eating fast food at all.
40:44
SPEAKER_02: And I got I got freakishly skinny.
40:46
SPEAKER_02: Oh man.
40:46
SPEAKER_02: My mom was like, she like freaked out.
40:48
SPEAKER_02: She was like touching my chest.
40:49
SPEAKER_02: She was like, Ryan, I can feel your ribs.
40:51
SPEAKER_02: When she hugged me, I was like, Hey mom, are you okay?
40:54
SPEAKER_02: Is it drugs?
40:55
SPEAKER_02: And I took a selfie and I posted it, and she's like, Are you okay?
40:58
SPEAKER_02: Are you on something?
40:59
SPEAKER_02: I was like, No, I'm just chilling, mom.
41:01
SPEAKER_02: And I was like, Oh.
41:03
SPEAKER_04: It's always the parent suspicion, man.
41:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it made me check myself, but compared to how I look now.
41:09
SPEAKER_02: Come back home, let me feed you.
41:11
SPEAKER_02: I got fucking fat, bro.
41:13
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, duh, but like Adam Stanler when he's like, uncle, remember?
41:17
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, what happened?
41:18
SPEAKER_02: That's how I feel.
41:19
SPEAKER_02: I I need it at one point.
41:21
SPEAKER_02: Uh my girl and I were running every morning at 5 a.m.
41:24
SPEAKER_02: Just when we got to the point where five miles in one hour.
41:29
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
41:30
SPEAKER_02: Damn.
41:31
SPEAKER_02: Can't do that now.
41:32
SPEAKER_02: Right?
41:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
41:33
SPEAKER_02: Or maybe I can't.
41:34
SPEAKER_02: I know I can.
41:34
SPEAKER_02: I just I'm just too lazy.
41:37
SPEAKER_02: Just got put your mind to it.
41:39
SPEAKER_04: There you go.
41:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
41:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
41:40
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
41:41
SPEAKER_04: Yep.
41:41
SPEAKER_04: I used to do the whole cardio thing, like just hop on a treadmill.
41:45
SPEAKER_04: Like, I don't know.
41:46
SPEAKER_04: For some reason, like working out just a little and doing a treadmill kind of helped with my asthma and stuff like that.
41:52
SPEAKER_04: Like kind of improved my breathing.
41:54
SPEAKER_04: But I've I've been really away from it and I kind of think it's affecting me a little.
41:58
SPEAKER_04: So I'm kind of thinking about going back.
42:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
42:02
SPEAKER_02: It helps with a really strong heart.
42:04
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, definitely.
42:05
SPEAKER_04: So I I want to go back to it, but I just hate the first week of working out and you're so sore and can't do anything.
42:12
SPEAKER_04: Like, that's like absolutely the worst.
42:15
SPEAKER_04: And when I have to go to work and pull like 50-pound boxes and stuff like that, and just stuff, it sucks.
42:22
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, ugh, I don't.
42:23
SPEAKER_04: I just want to get through the first week and get to the second.
42:27
SPEAKER_02: You gotta have a really good playlist.
42:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like a playlist.
42:30
SPEAKER_02: And when you run to it, it's like you run to the beat.
42:33
SPEAKER_02: One foot hits the bass drum, the other one hits the snare, so like dude, that's how it goes.
42:38
SPEAKER_04: Like, I'll get a slow song, kind of slow it down, let it do it.
42:41
SPEAKER_04: The next thing now, knock loose comes on, and I'm like, all right, we gotta speed it up.
42:45
SPEAKER_02: Mine's random as fuck, it's the theme song to the Warriors.
42:48
SPEAKER_02: You see that?
42:48
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
42:54
SPEAKER_01: Then it picks up, it's like, oh mine's a lot of bumpy music.
42:58
SPEAKER_02: Like, like we were just talking about static X, some double driver, some coal chamber, which is like doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo.
43:04
SPEAKER_02: It's like ah, and I'm just I keep going and I can run a whole five miles if the playlist is good.
43:10
SPEAKER_02: Once it slows down, I'm like, okay, I can stop like that.
43:14
SPEAKER_02: It's it's not it has to be fast.
43:17
SPEAKER_03: I tried doing that for a while, but I picked up a uh well, I shouldn't say picked up, I rescue, rescued a dog in Albuquerque, and that's how I've been getting my morning walks and jobs.
43:30
SPEAKER_03: And so I I ditched the earphones and just taking in nature, I guess.
43:34
SPEAKER_03: You know, taking in nature and just listening to the ambience of of the world.
43:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
43:40
SPEAKER_02: They said that on like on Joe Rogan.
43:43
SPEAKER_02: I think Joe Rogan said that.
43:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
43:45
SPEAKER_02: There they were like, you don't listen to music when you run.
43:47
SPEAKER_02: He's like, fuck no.
43:48
SPEAKER_02: You gotta listen to your heart, you gotta get in sync with your breathing, get in sync with all that.
43:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and in and the the air you're smelling, you know, you gotta hear what's going on around you, you gotta get into your own mode.
44:00
SPEAKER_02: Listen to music when he runs.
44:01
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
44:02
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I was doing that, and um, of course, you know, in the wilderness where I live too, it's like you know, you don't want to run into any any of the wildlife with all the bears coming out now, and you know, I came across the bobcat once, um, a couple of foxes too, and um coyotes, but you know, with like I said, with the bears coming out, and and I don't I didn't do any of that during the summer because like I said, I hate hate snakes.
44:29
SPEAKER_03: And they're they're they're I ran a I came across a rattler once when I was when I was riding my bike and I was like never again.
44:36
SPEAKER_03: I was just riding then you just hear the rattle.
44:38
SPEAKER_03: I'm like, oh nope, I'm going home.
44:40
SPEAKER_03: I've never heard one of those, so and I'm so glad that's a good thing.
44:42
SPEAKER_04: It sounds like a sprinkler.
44:44
SPEAKER_04: Oh man.
44:45
SPEAKER_03: Dude, it's it's fucking scary.
44:46
SPEAKER_03: I feel like it chills all the way up my butt.
44:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's scary.
44:50
SPEAKER_02: I'm not gonna lie.
44:51
SPEAKER_02: It's fucking scary.
44:52
SPEAKER_02: Like once you hear it, even you don't even know where it's at, too.
44:54
SPEAKER_02: It's that loud, you're like, shit, where's it at?
44:56
SPEAKER_02: Is it is it in front of me?
44:57
SPEAKER_01: Is it a back oh yeah?
44:59
SPEAKER_01: I hate that.
45:00
SPEAKER_02: I used to hate that.
45:01
SPEAKER_02: I lived in I I grew up in Shiprock and I lived in Shiprock, and then my first relationship was out kind of towards Cortez, like in the middle of that desert area, you know, like a kind of past the wash, right over the wash.
45:15
SPEAKER_02: And um, we used to go walking long walks all the way on that road, and we had a little chihuahua dog, cute little dog, and um the dog was like you know, you just hear the it sounded like a sprinkler.
45:28
SPEAKER_02: I was like, what is that?
45:29
SPEAKER_02: I thought it was the lines, you know, like the electric lines.
45:31
SPEAKER_02: I was like, is that I was like, is that what a snake?
45:34
SPEAKER_02: I was like, what the fuck?
45:35
SPEAKER_02: And like it was, it was yeah, so if you're in a desert with no grass and you hear a sprinkler, fuck that.
45:43
SPEAKER_02: You run.
45:44
SPEAKER_02: No, don't run, check your surroundings.
45:46
SPEAKER_02: No broke.
45:48
SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
45:49
SPEAKER_02: Watch where you step, guys.
45:52
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
45:54
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, so how's how's the band going?
45:57
SPEAKER_02: How did you guys become a band?
45:59
SPEAKER_02: Where did you guys find each other?
46:01
SPEAKER_03: Man, I was I was playing since high school, you know.
46:05
SPEAKER_03: Uh well, I shouldn't say play, but I've been performing performing since high school, right after high school, and I just kind of ran with it and just did it.
46:13
SPEAKER_03: What year was that?
46:15
SPEAKER_03: Uh man, 2000.
46:16
SPEAKER_03: Oh, okay.
46:17
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, 2000.
46:18
SPEAKER_03: I had um a couple of uh classmates and good friends of mine who joined.
46:22
SPEAKER_03: You know, I had Peter, Peter Spencer, and Matt Lincoln, and we were, you know, we were just kids, you know, we're just like, let's do this and let's just play a couple of cover songs that we like.
46:33
SPEAKER_03: But you know, time went on and you know, we all got lives, we all had kids, but eventually I met uh Mark at first when when he was with Signal, and one day I just you know asked him, you know, hey, do you mind if I borrow 200 bucks from you?
46:49
SPEAKER_03: He was like, uh 200?
46:53
SPEAKER_03: Just to break the ice.
46:54
SPEAKER_03: And and I was like, no, man, I'm I'm just playing with you.
46:57
SPEAKER_03: But um, serious question, you know, do you want to jump on uh jump on drums for the show?
47:02
SPEAKER_03: And you know, from there it was like, all right, let's do it.
47:06
SPEAKER_03: And like maybe a month or two months after, and I was like, you want to do it full time?
47:10
SPEAKER_03: And he was like, Yeah.
47:12
SPEAKER_03: But before that, you know, we were I was living here, I was living in Farmington for a couple of years, and I ran into him at a show, and we just started hanging out and asked him, you know, let's let's try and do something out here.
47:24
SPEAKER_03: And we tried to, but it just, you know, conflicting with time and everything.
47:30
SPEAKER_03: But eventually, of course, you know, Brandon, his brother, was was uh was at a show one night and I asked him, you know, you want to do bass, and here we are.
47:41
SPEAKER_03: Were you playing bass at that time?
47:43
SPEAKER_04: No, I was not.
47:44
SPEAKER_04: Um that well after Signal 99, I completely just stopped playing.
47:49
SPEAKER_04: I didn't play for like I want to say about maybe four to six years it's been since I played.
47:57
SPEAKER_04: Whoa.
47:58
SPEAKER_04: I didn't touch a bass that whole time.
47:59
SPEAKER_02: I just were you playing anything at that time within those six years?
48:04
SPEAKER_04: Um not really.
48:04
SPEAKER_04: I diddle around with the guitar, the acoustic guitar and stuff like that.
48:08
SPEAKER_04: But that's about it.
48:10
SPEAKER_04: Other than that, I really I really just dropped music.
48:13
SPEAKER_04: And um, yeah, as Travis said, you know, he came and got Mark, and Mark had been out of, you know, the music scene for a while too.
48:23
SPEAKER_04: So when I saw Mark do his first show, I was just like, man, you know, I kind of miss it.
48:27
SPEAKER_04: I kind of miss being upstage with him because we were always upstage together.
48:31
SPEAKER_04: And when I saw him up there, I was just like, damn, you know, I kind of missed that.
48:35
SPEAKER_04: I kind of missed that chemistry on stage.
48:37
SPEAKER_04: And so yeah, when Travis asked me, I was just it was just a no-brainer.
48:41
SPEAKER_04: I was just like, you know what, I want to get back into it.
48:44
SPEAKER_04: Let's let's do it, you know.
48:45
SPEAKER_04: I haven't touched a case in a long time.
48:48
SPEAKER_04: So we had our first we had our first practice at Studio 18, right?
48:52
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
48:52
SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah.
48:53
SPEAKER_04: That was a Bloomfield, right?
48:54
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
48:55
SPEAKER_04: We had our first practice over there.
48:56
SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah.
48:57
SPEAKER_04: I was all over there, just like didn't know anybody, just shy, you know, and everybody just started playing, and I just watched everybody learn the songs that way, and then that that's kind of how I came into Tribus, like and we did shows after that, and I was just like, man, you know, I really missed this.
49:15
SPEAKER_04: So, you know, it was a no-brainer to just keep going with them and you know, writing new music and stuff like that.
49:21
SPEAKER_04: So I miss traveling too.
49:24
SPEAKER_04: I really miss the traveling aspect of it, so it's always nice to get out of New Mexico, you know.
49:31
SPEAKER_04: And it's yeah, it's just really fun.
49:33
SPEAKER_04: Um road life and stuff like that.
49:36
SPEAKER_04: It's it's great.
49:37
SPEAKER_02: Like sounds fucking amazing.
49:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
49:41
SPEAKER_03: It's been it's been fun.
49:43
SPEAKER_03: You know, as we had our first, I don't want to say major, but our first out of out of state and out of the west tour out in California.
49:50
SPEAKER_03: And that was that was a fun run.
49:52
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it was really fun.
49:54
SPEAKER_03: We had a rate, a really good time.
49:55
SPEAKER_03: We met a lot of great people.
49:57
SPEAKER_02: That was for their first time, yeah.
49:58
SPEAKER_03: And it went pretty good.
50:00
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, hell yeah.
50:01
SPEAKER_02: You don't hear that a lot.
50:04
SPEAKER_02: Everybody's first tour was you or out of there, out of state, so it's usually shit.
50:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
50:10
SPEAKER_03: Well, prior prior to that, you know, when when I first when we were first playing with the original lineup, we were hitting Albuquerque, we were hitting Phoenix and you know, Hare, Farmington, Ship Rock a lot.
50:23
SPEAKER_03: We went to Cali once too.
50:24
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
50:25
SPEAKER_03: And then um we first did we did our first like out of state or out of town show out in um Las Cruces in El Paso.
50:32
SPEAKER_03: Oh wow, and then we went down there.
50:35
SPEAKER_02: What's that?
50:35
SPEAKER_02: You went down into New Mexico, yeah.
50:37
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we um it was the original lineup we played at a place called Club 101, I think it was Club 101.
50:44
SPEAKER_03: At the time it was New Mexican Erection and uh band called Malesome, I think.
50:51
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, it was a little dive bar, it was downstairs, and you know, when we played, it was it was just insane.
50:57
SPEAKER_03: I was you know, I was really skeptical at first.
50:59
SPEAKER_03: Like, you know, it's nobody knows who we are, but they did a lot of uh PR down there.
51:04
SPEAKER_03: They had it in the college newsletter, they had it on the radio, and of course, uh Enemy was really big down there, and um when we played, there was it was a packed house, it was it was crazy.
51:15
SPEAKER_03: We had people falling into the stage, and I remember bartender came up to us, he goes, Which one of you guys just tried this?
51:21
SPEAKER_03: And we're like, right here, and we were all in the age.
51:25
SPEAKER_03: Well, he was like, You guys broke like five chairs and broke a table.
51:30
SPEAKER_03: He's like, We never had that much uh intensity in this place, and you know, you guys are you guys are awesome, and shit, you know, it was it was fun, you know, just hearing that.
51:39
SPEAKER_03: And after that, you know, we started playing a lot more, traveling a little bit more.
51:43
SPEAKER_03: Those are all your original songs, yeah.
51:45
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, hell yeah.
51:47
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it was but it was always hard to get um like a like an EP or an album going, and you know, we didn't really know that many people, and when we tried to do it, it was always you know, somebody was was busy with work or somebody was busy with with life, you know.
52:04
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, of course, you know, I was I had uh become a father at that time and I was busy with my kids and my family, and it was just um it just never really you know happened until you know we came we played here in in Farmington at the old big city.
52:20
SPEAKER_03: And uh Brian did a did an on-site recording of our of our set, and that was as closest thing we got, you know.
52:26
SPEAKER_03: We we we uh put it together, we just kind of you know, put it into what songs we wanted to put out, and and it just you know that was our excuse me, closest thing we had to an EP.
52:40
SPEAKER_03: And um, you know, now we have these two and we have uh Craven and Eric and and we released our our our official EP last year or this year in uh in April.
52:53
SPEAKER_03: You know, we got a lot of good feedback and you know, hearing the songs for the first time on record is just it's just wild, it's crazy.
53:01
SPEAKER_03: I really like you guys' music though.
53:04
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's it's it's been a long time.
53:07
SPEAKER_03: Song called Vertigo.
53:08
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, I love that song.
53:10
SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's a favorite one.
53:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Vertigo.
53:14
SPEAKER_02: I don't know why.
53:15
SPEAKER_02: That's the word you know, animosity, right?
53:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm like, wow, I love that.
53:21
SPEAKER_02: It's like holy shit, dude.
53:23
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, but it was it was good.
53:25
SPEAKER_02: Goes harder than Japanese algebra.
53:28
SPEAKER_02: Bro, holy shit.
53:30
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that was one of the songs that was kind of out of my comfort zone, you know, vocally and lyrically, you know, like like the early songs, sellout and native tribal, or those are good, too.
53:41
SPEAKER_02: We're just um going ahead like you know, yeah, yeah, just kind of giving it it does that for me.
53:47
SPEAKER_02: Once I hear that, I'm like, oh fuck yeah, I can vibe.
53:50
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, the the the lyrics really speak for themselves, but you know, the the over the years it just kind of progressed into what it is now, but you know, it's it's it was uh it was like I said, it was out of my comfort zone.
54:01
SPEAKER_03: But these guys killed it, man.
54:03
SPEAKER_03: I mean, they fucking they brought it on the on the record, and you know, I can't can't be more proud of that.
54:10
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
54:11
SPEAKER_07: Hell yeah.
54:12
SPEAKER_07: Hell yeah.
54:13
SPEAKER_04: The recording process is so stressful too.
54:15
SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah.
54:16
SPEAKER_04: I do a click.
54:17
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
54:18
SPEAKER_04: Well, I don't mind playing with the click.
54:20
SPEAKER_04: I've I've always done it with signal before, so that doesn't really bother me.
54:23
SPEAKER_04: It's just I'm thinking too much.
54:25
SPEAKER_04: I don't want to mess up, you know.
54:27
SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah.
54:28
SPEAKER_04: I want to get it in one take, but that's usually not how it goes.
54:30
SPEAKER_04: Overthinking it, yeah, definitely.
54:33
SPEAKER_02: You have to play this all the time.
54:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, exactly.
54:35
SPEAKER_04: But I'm just like, yeah, I'm just like all nervous right there.
54:39
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I don't want to mess up.
54:40
SPEAKER_04: I don't, but you know, there's always retakes and everything like that.
54:44
SPEAKER_04: So yeah.
54:46
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
54:47
SPEAKER_03: Well, when we had uh, you know, Jude, our producer, uh Mr.
54:52
SPEAKER_03: Jude Kendallary at a Dragonfly, they, you know, they'd really he really pushed the envelope when it came to you know recording.
54:59
SPEAKER_03: He was like, You guys need to do this, you know, you need to do that.
55:01
SPEAKER_03: And you know, it gotta kind of got aggravating at this at the same time, but you know, it really it really helped us out.
55:09
SPEAKER_03: You know, we were you know, we're kind of looking at each other like, man, is this is this what we really kind of want to do?
55:14
SPEAKER_03: You know, like but you know, I'm very thankful for that.
55:17
SPEAKER_03: You know, I'm very thankful for that because it brought out it it it brought out the best in everybody, I believe, you know.
55:23
SPEAKER_03: And now, you know, we're working on a follow-up and and like like Brandon said, it's a little aggravating and it's it's stressful, but you know, it's a learning experience.
55:34
SPEAKER_03: You know, we're we were talking about it and we what what songs we want to do now, and it's like, oh, we this is the click, this is the BPM, this is this is where you come in in, and then we're like, oh, it's a learning experience, and now it's a little easier, but at the same time, it's still a little you know, a learning curve.
55:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's good though.
55:52
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, you kind of get some roots, grow bigger from it, you learn from it.
55:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, for sure.
55:58
SPEAKER_02: Hell yeah.
56:00
SPEAKER_04: We recently just um uh wrote a new song too that we played in um Shiprock at Gajifest.
56:07
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
56:07
SPEAKER_04: And it's a totally different sound than what all the tribes songs are.
56:11
SPEAKER_04: Really?
56:12
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
56:12
SPEAKER_02: How'd that come about?
56:14
SPEAKER_04: Um, well, we were at practice one day, and um Craven, he, you know, he's an excellent guitar player, so he comes up with a bunch of things, and he just played that riff out of nowhere, and we're just kind of like, you know, we like that.
56:28
SPEAKER_04: You know, we kind of messed around with it a little.
56:32
SPEAKER_04: And then it didn't go anywhere after that.
56:34
SPEAKER_04: We all kind of just forgot about it.
56:36
SPEAKER_04: And then later on down the line, we're just like, hey, what about that riff?
56:40
SPEAKER_04: You know, let's do something with that.
56:42
SPEAKER_04: So we we created that song, and uh best I can say, kind of has like a southern feel to it.
56:51
SPEAKER_04: It's kind of like the original Tribus song.
56:53
SPEAKER_04: We kind of wanted to do something different, like it's so awesome though.
56:57
SPEAKER_04: Like the Craven and Eric, they just both killed it on that song.
57:01
SPEAKER_04: Like, it's literally our first first song with the solo in it at the end.
57:05
SPEAKER_04: So really, yeah, just to hear that, it's just so cool.
57:09
SPEAKER_04: I don't I don't think I've ever been in a band where you know someone just really shreds and stuff like that.
57:14
SPEAKER_04: So it's so amazing to see them play at practice, too.
57:17
SPEAKER_04: I'm just like, man, you guys are so talented and so young.
57:21
SPEAKER_04: Like, yeah, I remember being that.
57:24
SPEAKER_03: What age are they?
57:26
SPEAKER_03: Brandon, not Brandon, uh Craven's 20?
57:29
SPEAKER_03: I think he's 20 now.
57:31
SPEAKER_03: Eric just turned 18.
57:33
SPEAKER_03: What?
57:33
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
57:35
SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah.
57:35
SPEAKER_04: We all we all started there at some point though.
57:39
SPEAKER_04: And it's insane, you know.
57:40
SPEAKER_03: Like Brandon said, it's insane how talented they are.
57:43
SPEAKER_03: You know, I I I I commend them every every chance I get when we're playing shows and when they're playing licks, or you know, I'll I'll I'll text Craven or Eric in the middle of the night or during the day, and I'm like, hey, do you know, play this out, and you know, I'll hum it to them, or I'll I'll sing a uh one liner to them, or I'll growl it out, and they're like, all right, let me let me mess around with it.
58:07
SPEAKER_03: But you know, this new song that they had created, it's you know, it was a work in progress, but then just one day we're like, bring it back, and once we brought it back, it just took off.
58:18
SPEAKER_03: And you know, we put it all together, we structured it the way we wanted it, and yeah, we all we all love the final outcome.
58:26
SPEAKER_03: It sounds sounds really good.
58:27
SPEAKER_03: That's fucking awesome.
58:28
SPEAKER_03: I love that.
58:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, you just like hey, hey, like send them a voice note or something, work on it.
58:34
SPEAKER_02: I always wondered about that because like when I asked, uh oh well that was like maybe ninth grade, maybe eighth grade.
58:41
SPEAKER_02: I was talking to one of my buddies and we're talking about Jonathan Davis from Corn.
58:44
SPEAKER_02: And I was like, how do Corn, how does Corn write their music?
58:47
SPEAKER_02: Is the vocalist write the lyrics first, or do the guitar plate players write the music?
58:54
SPEAKER_02: Or do they write if they write the music in the parts, how do they know what the vocalist is gonna say?
58:59
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
59:00
SPEAKER_02: And I was like, or do they write the guitar parts and then the vocalist listens to it and he writes his own lyrics?
59:04
SPEAKER_02: Then they were just like, he was just like, I don't know.
59:06
SPEAKER_02: I think Jonathan Davis gets ideas in his head and then he hums it to the guitar player and they make something of it.
59:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, work that way.
59:13
SPEAKER_02: So that's what that reminded me of.
59:15
SPEAKER_03: So I was just like, I was reading, I was reading somewhere about him.
59:18
SPEAKER_03: Um I don't know if it's true, I don't know if you know, it was one of the things that I've read in the magazines when I was growing up.
59:25
SPEAKER_03: It was uh him going into like a I don't want to say cheap, but he would go into a hotel and just grab a six-pack of cores and write his music, you know, write his lyrics out, and yes, you know, come up with all that.
59:39
SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, you know, I'll take that into consideration, but more you know, more or less it was like, holy shit, you know, they have different different ways of coming up with their their ideas and their music, and you know, that's that's one of the things I look at, and you know, I try to do my homework as far as like where inspiration comes from.
59:57
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
59:58
SPEAKER_04: Travis is pretty good about writing lyrics on the spot though.
1:00:02
SPEAKER_04: Just give them like a topic or a feeling or something like that, you know.
1:00:07
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, he's just over there.
1:00:08
SPEAKER_02: Do you guys have all parts in writing lyrics?
1:00:11
SPEAKER_04: Oh, just Travis.
1:00:12
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, just Travis.
1:00:15
SPEAKER_04: I don't think I could do that.
1:00:16
SPEAKER_03: It's it's I just beat on shit.
1:00:19
SPEAKER_03: I just punch shit.
1:00:21
SPEAKER_03: I throw things and at them and you know, say, what do you guys think?
1:00:25
SPEAKER_03: And you know, what is this how does this sound or how does this what is the vibe on this?
1:00:30
SPEAKER_03: And what can we come up with this?
1:00:32
SPEAKER_03: And and it's like, yeah, we can work with that.
1:00:34
SPEAKER_03: And but more or less I got you know, tons and tons of notes in my phone, my tablet, and then notes at home, and just you know, I I took uh I took a lot of um you know inspiration from you know from people who I've who I've met and you know, bands I've seen and shows I've been to, places I've traveled, and you know, a lot of it comes from just you know life, you know, life experience and just like you said, the animosity and yeah, and just um you know topics in general and uh what shirt did you give you?
1:01:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that that one where the the hilarious was just literally like don't fuck with me.
1:01:19
SPEAKER_01: I was like, fuck yeah!
1:01:22
SPEAKER_02: That's what I was thinking when that well that vertigo was the first one I ever heard, and I really liked how you just said that animosity.
1:01:29
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
1:01:30
SPEAKER_02: I was like, oh fuck yeah, and then I heard the the other um sellout.
1:01:34
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
1:01:34
SPEAKER_02: I was like, oh, and then I heard that what last one like don't fuck what it's like I cheese the fuck out.
1:01:43
SPEAKER_03: It's like fucking, you know, it like I said, it it progressed to what it is now, but you know, overall it's just one of those songs where it's just energy, you know, it's just you know, un untapped energy to where you just release it, and you know, it's when you when you when we play it live, you know, it's one of those, you know, get the hell out of your seat and just talking about sellout?
1:02:07
SPEAKER_03: No, uh Native tribal tribal, okay.
1:02:10
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and it's just that's actually my favorite song to play.
1:02:12
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it fucking goes hard.
1:02:14
SPEAKER_02: I love it, love it.
1:02:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's you guys talk about all your inspirations, you can hear it, you can feel it in those songs.
1:02:21
SPEAKER_02: It's like this is everything I love in a fucking song.
1:02:25
SPEAKER_02: God, you know, that's why I was like, hey, we got the rhythm section here.
1:02:28
SPEAKER_02: That's like my favorite fucking part of it, isn't it?
1:02:31
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:02:31
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we we wanted the little ones to be here, the young, the littles, as I call them.
1:02:36
SPEAKER_03: But at school and they're they're the kids.
1:02:41
SPEAKER_03: No, I'm just kidding.
1:02:42
SPEAKER_03: It's just you know, they're they've they've come a long way, but you know, overall, um it's a humbling experience at the same time that you know where where it's come from from the start to now, you know, and you know, we we we've already been asked, you know, do you guys want to come back to Cali?
1:03:01
SPEAKER_03: Do you guys want to come back to the four corners?
1:03:03
SPEAKER_03: Do you guys want to do uh Denver?
1:03:06
SPEAKER_04: You know, we're we're we got offered up in um Oregon for next year, too.
1:03:10
SPEAKER_04: Oh shit.
1:03:11
SPEAKER_04: So really yeah, and we haven't played Durango too, and we got offered up in Durango next year, too.
1:03:17
SPEAKER_04: So Durango's always fun.
1:03:18
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's I don't think I've ever played Durango, so I think I've done the hive twice.
1:03:24
SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah, that's where we're gonna play.
1:03:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:03:26
SPEAKER_02: It was the old hive, not the new hive.
1:03:27
SPEAKER_02: I haven't been to the new hive.
1:03:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:03:29
SPEAKER_06: New hive's pretty cool.
1:03:31
SPEAKER_02: Is it really?
1:03:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:03:32
SPEAKER_02: I I I've yet to go over there.
1:03:35
SPEAKER_02: I thought that show was gonna be there at that hive.
1:03:37
SPEAKER_02: Is that the hive?
1:03:38
SPEAKER_02: No, there's a hive in Flagstaff?
1:03:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there is a hive.
1:03:42
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:03:42
SPEAKER_02: See, I was gonna do uh I was gonna do a giveaway for tickets at the hive, but I thought it was that hive and Durango, but it said Flagstaff.
1:03:50
SPEAKER_02: I was like, wait a minute, this is Flagstaff.
1:03:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I was like, how am I gonna give tickets away to somebody with Flagstaff?
1:03:55
SPEAKER_04: So gotta give gas money too.
1:03:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, right.
1:03:58
SPEAKER_02: If you can get there, hey! You know, but yeah, I I wanted to do that.
1:04:03
SPEAKER_02: Maybe for the the Gallup show.
1:04:05
SPEAKER_02: For who's all who's all playing that show?
1:04:07
SPEAKER_02: Alliance, um, under Exile, Treaty, Treaty, and Heart Museum.
1:04:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:04:15
SPEAKER_02: That that little tour right there.
1:04:16
SPEAKER_02: I wanted to do that.
1:04:17
SPEAKER_04: But we do have a show tomorrow, too.
1:04:20
SPEAKER_04: Where are you guys playing at?
1:04:21
SPEAKER_04: In Gallup.
1:04:22
SPEAKER_02: Oh shit.
1:04:22
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's like flea market.
1:04:24
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's like a little festival.
1:04:25
SPEAKER_02: Was that the one that was supposed to go on at the juggernaut, but then they moved it to the flea market?
1:04:28
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
1:04:29
SPEAKER_02: Oh shit.
1:04:30
SPEAKER_04: And it's kind of cool because we're gonna be like kind of like direct support for three bad jacks.
1:04:35
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:04:36
SPEAKER_04: So that's pretty much hey, hey, yeah.
1:04:40
SPEAKER_02: I'm excited for that.
1:04:44
SPEAKER_02: I started dating my girl at a three bad jack show.
1:04:46
SPEAKER_02: So hey, what?
1:04:49
SPEAKER_02: You're just all bad.
1:04:50
SPEAKER_02: Elvis.
1:04:53
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, I was just in out because I was helping him, Elvis, with uh with his phone.
1:04:57
SPEAKER_02: He's all like, my phone's really slow.
1:04:59
SPEAKER_02: How's your phone?
1:05:00
SPEAKER_02: I was like, my phone's working fast.
1:05:01
SPEAKER_02: I was like, wait a minute, did you turn off your Wi-Fi and it started working fast?
1:05:04
SPEAKER_02: He's like, hey, it works fast.
1:05:06
SPEAKER_02: So he's like, How do you do this?
1:05:07
SPEAKER_02: I was like, helping my phone.
1:05:08
SPEAKER_02: And then my lady now comes up and she's like, I was like, You see him?
1:05:13
SPEAKER_02: I was helping him out.
1:05:14
SPEAKER_02: I was helping with my phone.
1:05:15
SPEAKER_02: If he needs help, he comes to me.
1:05:16
SPEAKER_02: She's like, Really?
1:05:17
SPEAKER_02: I was like, Yeah, yeah.
1:05:20
SPEAKER_02: Phone tech.
1:05:21
SPEAKER_02: But I didn't really, I'm fucking shit with technology.
1:05:25
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
1:05:26
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, it was a three-back Jack show.
1:05:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:05:29
SPEAKER_02: That's awesome though.
1:05:30
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
1:05:32
SPEAKER_04: Gallup.
1:05:33
SPEAKER_04: We're very grateful for all the shows we get.
1:05:35
SPEAKER_02: Like, dude, that's awesome.
1:05:38
SPEAKER_02: You guys are getting out there.
1:05:39
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, most definitely.
1:05:41
SPEAKER_04: Like, even our Spotify stuff, you'll see some listeners from like Europe and stuff like that, or K.
1:05:46
SPEAKER_04: Europe.
1:05:47
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:05:47
SPEAKER_04: So it's pretty cool that our music gets out that far, you know.
1:05:51
SPEAKER_04: Like, it's cool.
1:05:52
SPEAKER_04: Somebody's listening to this way out there.
1:05:54
SPEAKER_02: They probably don't understand it, but where does the name Tribus come from?
1:06:00
SPEAKER_03: Oh, it's Latin for tribe.
1:06:03
SPEAKER_03: Wow.
1:06:04
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it was one of the one of the it was We were just trying to find names, you know.
1:06:10
SPEAKER_03: We're we were kids.
1:06:12
SPEAKER_03: We didn't know what what to name the band, you know, just coming up with cheesy names left and right.
1:06:17
SPEAKER_03: And didn't know what to do.
1:06:18
SPEAKER_03: What do you think was one of the cheesiest names?
1:06:20
SPEAKER_03: Oh man.
1:06:20
SPEAKER_03: Come on, don't be shy.
1:06:22
SPEAKER_03: Come on.
1:06:23
SPEAKER_03: Oh man.
1:06:24
SPEAKER_03: We had a pro prototype or protocol something, protocol chaos or some shit like that.
1:06:30
SPEAKER_03: And and then it turned into we were fucking around one day and like, let's call ourselves Red Mosquito.
1:06:39
SPEAKER_03: We were joking around, and then one day, you know, I was listening to the Against album, so uh Sepultura.
1:06:45
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:06:46
SPEAKER_03: And they have a song called Tri This.
1:06:48
SPEAKER_03: It's uh it's an instrumental, and I was like, hey, that looks that that sounds pretty dope, you know.
1:06:53
SPEAKER_03: I like the I like the there's six letters, you know.
1:06:56
SPEAKER_03: I like the tribe part.
1:06:58
SPEAKER_03: So I did I did my research and you know it's it's Latin for tribe, you know.
1:07:04
SPEAKER_03: Hell yeah.
1:07:04
SPEAKER_03: But you know, coming from a native band, you know, you hear tridis, you know, it's like what the fuck?
1:07:10
SPEAKER_03: But you know, it makes sense to have another uh culture embraced into the native culture with you know what they're with their words or with their spelling and of their their their word tribe.
1:07:24
SPEAKER_03: But you know, it that's it just stuck.
1:07:27
SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's fucking awesome.
1:07:29
SPEAKER_04: I was probably only five at that time.
1:07:34
SPEAKER_04: I forget how old are you now?
1:07:36
SPEAKER_04: I'm 31.
1:07:37
SPEAKER_04: Oh, okay.
1:07:38
SPEAKER_04: Well, at least we're all in 30s, right?
1:07:40
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
1:07:41
SPEAKER_04: 43.
1:07:43
SPEAKER_04: At least the three of us are 36.
1:07:46
SPEAKER_04: We all we all have a joke in the band.
1:07:51
SPEAKER_04: We all have a joke in the band since we have younger members.
1:07:54
SPEAKER_04: We're like, oh, this is our dad right here.
1:07:56
SPEAKER_04: We call him dad on the road.
1:07:59
SPEAKER_03: The band dad.
1:08:00
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:08:01
SPEAKER_04: Oh my god.
1:08:02
SPEAKER_04: It's always funny when the Craven and Eric come that they were like, Dad, dad.
1:08:06
SPEAKER_04: Where are we gonna eat, dad?
1:08:11
SPEAKER_03: You know, it's it's Eric.
1:08:12
SPEAKER_03: It's funny because he's he's he's short.
1:08:15
SPEAKER_03: And then when he comes up to you, and it's it's like a really like a not nonchalant way of saying dad.
1:08:22
SPEAKER_03: No, but chunk.
1:08:23
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he'll he'll stand there, he's like, What's up, dad?
1:08:26
SPEAKER_01: Do that people really think he's your dad.
1:08:29
SPEAKER_03: He rails, right?
1:08:31
SPEAKER_03: Our uh our our old drummer, uh Wolf, you know, I I would teach our our guitar player, drummer, uh guitar player, Wolf, you know, he's he's my height, and he's a big guy.
1:08:45
SPEAKER_03: And you know, I told uh I told a bartender one time we were playing at a show, and I was like, This is my son, you know.
1:08:51
SPEAKER_03: We had a couple, and I was like, This is my son, and he's like he's like, really?
1:08:56
SPEAKER_03: I was like, Yeah, and then I got him a beer and I put it, he's all thanks, dad.
1:09:03
SPEAKER_03: You know, he was he's he's younger than me too.
1:09:05
SPEAKER_03: I think he's the same age as Mark, but it was funny because you know, at the time I'm I don't know, 30, 33, something somewhere around that.
1:09:14
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
1:09:15
SPEAKER_03: But you know, he was he was in his 20s, and you know, it's funny because he's big and he has that bottle.
1:09:20
SPEAKER_03: He's like, thanks, dad.
1:09:23
SPEAKER_04: And yeah, no, I just recently found out too that me and Travis share two clans.
1:09:27
SPEAKER_04: So now I'm just like, now I can call you Che instead of dad.
1:09:30
SPEAKER_07: Oh I was about to say that pretty soon there's gonna be a Che in the band.
1:09:35
SPEAKER_00: Oh shit.
1:09:37
SPEAKER_06: Already, already two Unks and a Che.
1:09:43
SPEAKER_06: Two Unks and a Che and the kids.
1:09:45
SPEAKER_00: And the kids, the deadly Unks, and then kids.
1:09:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I I I felt that way too.
1:09:55
SPEAKER_02: The last band I was in, I was the oldest one in there.
1:10:00
SPEAKER_02: And I was just like, I was the Mick Mars of the group.
1:10:03
SPEAKER_02: I was old age.
1:10:04
SPEAKER_04: You were on the different different side than me.
1:10:07
SPEAKER_04: I've always been the youngest.
1:10:08
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, whenever we got Craven and Herc, I was like, yes, I'm not the youngest anymore.
1:10:13
SPEAKER_04: Like, you guys can't pick on me.
1:10:16
SPEAKER_03: Fuck you little kids.
1:10:19
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:10:20
SPEAKER_03: No, it's funny because we you know we get these shows and we're so we're so hype for it, and we forget their you know, their age, you know, and we we get invited to these bars and fuck, you know, what are we gonna do?
1:10:35
SPEAKER_03: And we we let the you know pro promoter know.
1:10:40
SPEAKER_03: And they're like, well, as long as you guys keep them in the back, or you know, if everything's cool, and I'm like, no, they don't do anything crazy like that.
1:10:47
SPEAKER_03: And you know, we're all sober, so we don't we don't indulge in you know whatever it comes to it, we just tell them you know, just get off the stage and go in the back.
1:10:56
SPEAKER_03: And and that's that's how it is, you know.
1:10:58
SPEAKER_03: We I'm always looking for the for the boys, and when I see them, they're over here playing games and doing what kids do, and but as soon as they're up there, it's like a different story.
1:11:08
SPEAKER_03: They're they're big kids that they turn it up.
1:11:13
SPEAKER_02: That's that's very good.
1:11:14
SPEAKER_02: I I like that as long as the venue's cool with that.
1:11:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there are venues that are just fucking shit.
1:11:20
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, we've we've come across a couple.
1:11:21
SPEAKER_02: Never mind, no, you guys can't play.
1:11:23
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I'm just like, man, they're not gonna drink, they're not gonna do anything.
1:11:27
SPEAKER_04: They're gonna perform.
1:11:29
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so only if you've if you've just seen them play guitar, you'll understand.
1:11:34
SPEAKER_00: Get your guitar, yeah.
1:11:36
SPEAKER_04: Show them a lick.
1:11:38
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:11:40
SPEAKER_02: You what are you guys planning on doing next?
1:11:42
SPEAKER_02: Like, where are you guys going on another show somewhere far?
1:11:46
SPEAKER_02: Is that the California one that you're thinking of going?
1:11:48
SPEAKER_03: Or we're we're working on it.
1:11:50
SPEAKER_03: We're working on it.
1:11:51
SPEAKER_03: We're trying to get next year lined up and everything, and more than likely it'll be California again, but we really want to hit the east, the east side of the of the state, and of course the northern side, you know, cali uh Colorado, um South Dakota, South Dakota, Wyoming that way.
1:12:10
SPEAKER_03: And you know, he's got a lot of connections out there with with uh with his BC side and um you know, maybe even South Southward, you know, Phoenix or even El Paso and Las Cruces.
1:12:21
SPEAKER_03: They have a bad experience with El Paso.
1:12:23
SPEAKER_03: Oh shit.
1:12:24
SPEAKER_08: Oh shit.
1:12:25
SPEAKER_03: They told me about it in Los Cruces, it was Las Cruces.
1:12:28
SPEAKER_03: Oh well, Las Cruces, yeah.
1:12:30
SPEAKER_06: But you know, I'm not sure I had the bad experience in El Paso.
1:12:35
SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah, I think I told the story.
1:12:37
SPEAKER_04: I remember that.
1:12:38
SPEAKER_04: Okay, yeah, I remember that.
1:12:39
SPEAKER_04: It was El Paso was just a shit show, that's all I can say.
1:12:44
SPEAKER_01: Didn't you tell a story about that?
1:12:46
SPEAKER_06: No, yeah, I think I did.
1:12:47
SPEAKER_06: Um I think this was before um Brandon was even in the band.
1:12:51
SPEAKER_02: Um but I remember you told a story, and you're like, I gotta wait to Brandon's gotta be here for me to tell the story.
1:12:58
SPEAKER_02: He said something.
1:12:59
SPEAKER_06: Oh, it was probably a Mexico story, actually.
1:13:03
SPEAKER_06: Is it Mexico?
1:13:05
SPEAKER_06: Could have been Cruces as well.
1:13:07
SPEAKER_06: But like I said, um El Paso, I don't think he was in the band with us at the time.
1:13:11
SPEAKER_06: I know it was me, Chuck, uh Henry, and of course, uh there was another Mark, but we called him White Boy Mark because he was the only white guy in the band.
1:13:20
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
1:13:21
SPEAKER_06: So, you know, going through Border Patrol, like I said, you know, in the last episode, um, Border Patrol stopped us because it looked suspicious.
1:13:30
SPEAKER_06: A white guy driving, you know, a bunch of brown guys.
1:13:33
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
1:13:35
SPEAKER_06: Just look fucking suspicious.
1:13:36
SPEAKER_06: And you know, they they kept asking us if we had drugs or anything like that on us, no, and you know, and we had to um step out of our ride.
1:13:47
SPEAKER_06: They took us inside to search us, they took out all of our you know, gear, our um our merch and everything, looking through all the bags, and they kept asking us, you know, you guys don't have anything, and it's just like, no, we don't.
1:14:02
SPEAKER_06: And I think we were there for like a little over an hour, and they didn't find nothing on us.
1:14:07
SPEAKER_06: Oh, okay, you guys can go.
1:14:09
SPEAKER_06: And we had to pack up all of our shit because it was all laid out.
1:14:12
SPEAKER_02: They took it all out and they told you to put it all back together.
1:14:15
SPEAKER_06: Fuck no.
1:14:16
SPEAKER_06: And then, of course, we had a bad experience in Vos Cruces one time.
1:14:22
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, we um we're big, we're pretty big pot smokers.
1:14:26
SPEAKER_02: So let me let me get the cameras on for this.
1:14:29
SPEAKER_02: Hold on.
1:14:33
unknown: Damn.
1:14:41
SPEAKER_03: Like a chain.
1:14:46
SPEAKER_02: I think we're ready for a little bit of a story time here.
1:14:49
SPEAKER_02: All right.
1:14:50
SPEAKER_02: So take us back.
1:14:52
SPEAKER_02: Where are we going?
1:14:53
SPEAKER_02: Las Cruces.
1:14:54
SPEAKER_02: Las Cruces.
1:14:56
SPEAKER_04: We had a show down in Las Cruces with uh Signal 99.
1:15:00
SPEAKER_04: It's probably my first time and probably my last time that I want to go back to shit.
1:15:05
SPEAKER_04: But um we went we got down there perfectly, you know.
1:15:09
SPEAKER_04: You know, like I said, we were huge pot smokers, and you know, we took a little bit with us every now and then, so and um I didn't think anything about the Border Patrol or anything like that.
1:15:20
SPEAKER_04: And we came down and as we were going down, you know, you could see it on the other side of the road.
1:15:25
SPEAKER_04: So I was just like, you know, fuck.
1:15:27
SPEAKER_04: Like, you know, we gotta smoke all of our shit.
1:15:31
SPEAKER_04: But we we got to the venue, we we did our show and everything, and you know, the promoter he came out, he's like, You guys did good, you know, we want to bring you back down here.
1:15:40
SPEAKER_04: We're just like, Yeah, cool, you know, we want to come back down.
1:15:43
SPEAKER_04: And but it was all after that, you know.
1:15:45
SPEAKER_04: We played our show, we were getting ready to leave.
1:15:48
SPEAKER_04: Um, we were in a different vehicle than um Chuck and the other members, so they took off probably like 20 minutes before us.
1:15:57
SPEAKER_04: So as we were getting getting back up, we were getting closer to that um the border with the checkpoint right there, and I had like this little container with some weed in it.
1:16:09
SPEAKER_04: And I was just like, God, you know, let's I think we stopped at a um Whataburger.
1:16:15
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, we stopped at a Whataburger, and then after that, I was getting kind of paranoid.
1:16:20
SPEAKER_04: I was just like, you know, we have weed, you know, you know, it's kind of clean out the car, you know, because there's pieces and everything.
1:16:26
SPEAKER_04: I cleaned out the car and everything, and we were getting closer and we're just I was nervous because when we were cleaning the car out, I kind of put my stuff in the trunk, you know, where the spare goes.
1:16:37
SPEAKER_00: Oh I wasn't hiding it, but it was hidden, you know.
1:16:43
SPEAKER_04: But yeah, like uh, we were just scared about that.
1:16:46
SPEAKER_04: We're like, god damn, you know.
1:16:48
SPEAKER_04: So I did that, I put that in there, we took off, and as we were getting closer, you know, and in the car, all you could smell is Whataburger.
1:16:56
SPEAKER_04: So I was just like good.
1:16:58
SPEAKER_04: I was just like, damn, like I hope the smell helps.
1:17:01
SPEAKER_04: Like, I hope this, like, if there's a dog there, I hope the smell is gonna distract the dog.
1:17:06
SPEAKER_00: Everybody hold your burger open for the car as we go by, you know.
1:17:11
SPEAKER_04: But anyways, we got closer, we drove up, we got the next car was like in front of us.
1:17:17
SPEAKER_04: They they went ahead, they let them go, and we got up and they immediately wanted us to fucking pull over.
1:17:24
SPEAKER_04: So we pulled over, and the guy was just kind of asking, you know, do you have anything in here like that we should know about?
1:17:32
SPEAKER_04: And I was honest with them.
1:17:34
SPEAKER_04: I was just like, Yeah, I do have a little bit of weed, and he was just like, Where's it at?
1:17:41
SPEAKER_04: Or or before before he asked that, like, they were already bringing a dog out and everything.
1:17:47
SPEAKER_04: And after a while, he was just like, Can you can you all step out?
1:17:51
SPEAKER_04: You know, we're gonna send the dog through the vehicle and everything.
1:17:54
SPEAKER_04: And holy fuck, that dog was big.
1:17:57
SPEAKER_04: It was a big dog.
1:17:59
SPEAKER_04: Dude, he was a shepherd.
1:18:00
SPEAKER_04: He was just in the fucking car.
1:18:02
SPEAKER_04: They get big.
1:18:03
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, they he was just in the car sniffing everywhere, and finally they got to the trunk, and that's where he sits down, and I was just like, God damn it, man.
1:18:11
SPEAKER_04: And that's where he sat down.
1:18:13
SPEAKER_04: We were just all freaking out.
1:18:15
SPEAKER_04: We were just like, you know, there's weed back there.
1:18:18
SPEAKER_04: So they they like, can you open the trunk?
1:18:20
SPEAKER_04: So we opened the trunk, and they, you know, move everything, and they kind of look around, and then they pulled up the where the spare tire was, and that's where my container was right there, and they grabbed it, they looked in it.
1:18:34
SPEAKER_04: We were all scared when we saw that, but oh I can't imagine.
1:18:38
SPEAKER_04: After a while, the guy came up to us, or they kind of they were kind of looking at it and like, you know, well, you know, that's it.
1:18:45
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, they were just like, that's it, and then they came over to us and they're just like, you know, you know, we mainly look for large amounts.
1:18:55
SPEAKER_04: They're like, you know, what you have is all right, you know, like we're just looking for you gonna finish that hot dog.
1:19:03
SPEAKER_04: And what was even cooler was that guy knew the there was a show where we played.
1:19:09
SPEAKER_04: So he was asking about that.
1:19:11
SPEAKER_04: He's all didn't you guys, he's uh didn't you have some members come through right here?
1:19:15
SPEAKER_04: Because I guess they talked with Chuck, you know, prior and they're just like, didn't you guys play a show?
1:19:19
SPEAKER_04: We're just like, Yeah, and after that they were all cool with us and everything.
1:19:22
SPEAKER_04: And he just explained to me, you know, it's cool that you have that weed, you know, it seems like it's just personal use, you know, we're looking for bricks, you know, and stuff like that.
1:19:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so he was how much was that that you actually had?
1:19:34
SPEAKER_04: I probably just had about an eighth.
1:19:35
SPEAKER_04: It wasn't very much, so yeah, he was all you know, that's fine, you know.
1:19:39
SPEAKER_04: He was just like that's fine.
1:19:41
SPEAKER_04: That's cool.
1:19:42
SPEAKER_04: But yeah, and they were all cool about it.
1:19:45
SPEAKER_04: He they he mentioned he's like, hell yeah, you guys played at that venue.
1:19:48
SPEAKER_04: He was just all that's cool.
1:19:49
SPEAKER_04: He's all asking us our band name and everything, what we played, and yeah, we got cool after that, and they were just like, you know, you guys are good to go, you know.
1:19:58
SPEAKER_04: You guys can take whatever they still let us take whatever, and they were just like, Yeah, we just look for the big stuff.
1:20:03
SPEAKER_04: That's all it was.
1:20:04
SPEAKER_04: Just give you your weed back.
1:20:05
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, he did.
1:20:06
SPEAKER_01: Oh shit, holy shit!
1:20:08
SPEAKER_04: Fucking scariest part of thing is that dog, man.
1:20:10
SPEAKER_04: Because just seeing the dog go through the whole vehicle and everything like that.
1:20:15
SPEAKER_04: I was like, Yeah, so that was like, I was just like, you know what?
1:20:20
SPEAKER_04: I don't think I ever want to go back to Las Cruises.
1:20:23
SPEAKER_04: I was just like, unless I'm unless I'm don't smoke weed anymore or something, or but I don't know, that kind of just scarred me, you know.
1:20:31
SPEAKER_04: I was just like, yeah, when we first got stopped and pulled over, I was like, shit, man, you know, we're we're getting thrown in, guys.
1:20:37
SPEAKER_04: Oh my god.
1:20:39
SPEAKER_04: That's what I thought.
1:20:40
SPEAKER_04: I was like, we're getting thrown in, but you know, after he said that, you know, oh that's just a little amount, we're looking for big stuff.
1:20:46
SPEAKER_04: I was just like what that dog was thinking, right?
1:20:49
SPEAKER_04: Get a mess, get him.
1:20:51
SPEAKER_06: Well, that burger smells good.
1:20:54
SPEAKER_00: Are we taking their burger?
1:20:55
SPEAKER_00: It's like, what the fuck?
1:20:56
SPEAKER_00: You let him go?
1:20:58
SPEAKER_00: It's like get him, get him.
1:21:00
SPEAKER_00: It's like those guys are cool.
1:21:02
SPEAKER_04: But yeah, that's that was my first experience in Las Cruces.
1:21:06
SPEAKER_04: So since then, we've never gone that far down.
1:21:09
SPEAKER_04: So that's that's my scary little story for Las Cruces.
1:21:15
SPEAKER_04: Like And it wasn't legal at the time, so that made it even scary.
1:21:19
SPEAKER_06: What year was that?
1:21:20
SPEAKER_06: Uh yeah, this was like probably 2018-ish, 17-ish around that time.
1:21:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it wasn't too well, it was pretty long ago, but yeah.
1:21:31
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:21:31
SPEAKER_02: In my head, it's not that long.
1:21:34
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but that was the scariest thing.
1:21:35
SPEAKER_04: So we always try to avoid like those checkpoints, those border patrol checkpoints.
1:21:39
SPEAKER_04: We travel and stuff.
1:21:40
SPEAKER_04: So just take gummies.
1:21:42
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:21:44
SPEAKER_02: Put them in lifesavers.
1:21:46
SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
1:21:46
SPEAKER_02: Lifesaver bag.
1:21:47
SPEAKER_03: I think mine was when we went to Cali.
1:21:49
SPEAKER_03: We were we played in uh Phoenix, or no, it was uh Miami.
1:21:54
SPEAKER_03: Um outside of Globe.
1:21:56
SPEAKER_03: We we stead we stayed the night in in Phoenix to go to Cali.
1:22:00
SPEAKER_03: And um we hit the we hit the state line to California into our new Arizona into California.
1:22:06
SPEAKER_03: They had a uh checkpoint and it said pull off, and I was like, fuck.
1:22:10
SPEAKER_00: Oh shit.
1:22:11
SPEAKER_03: And I was like, I'm this far home, and they want us to but he just looked at it and said, You guys got any produce or some shit like that?
1:22:16
SPEAKER_03: And the video kind of like nope.
1:22:18
SPEAKER_03: And he was like, All right, we guys go through.
1:22:20
SPEAKER_03: So it was that was it, but you know, it kind of puckered up there a little bit.
1:22:26
SPEAKER_02: I I don't know, that this story is like Yeah, I'd be fucking scared.
1:22:32
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that was definitely when we played we played down there in damn 2004 or five and we partied the shit out last that the night of our show um with uh with the guys in the Mexican Erection and the guys in Mouse.
1:22:50
SPEAKER_03: I got tore up that night.
1:22:51
SPEAKER_03: But I remember um our bass player at the time, Rippy, um, took us to this Mexican restaurant and he got me a burrito.
1:23:00
SPEAKER_03: He's like, Here, eat this, it'll make you feel better.
1:23:02
SPEAKER_03: It was a big ass fucking burrito, but then that that shit was hot, it was hot, and I was like, But having a hangover and just eating, I was like, oh.
1:23:11
SPEAKER_03: And then we're driving back and we hit that same checkpoint, and he looked at all of us and he's like, You guys have anything in the vehicle?
1:23:17
SPEAKER_03: And they're like, Nope, we're just going back home.
1:23:20
SPEAKER_03: But I was just I was just like, uh, I don't want to be here.
1:23:25
SPEAKER_03: But yeah, I know I know what you mean.
1:23:28
SPEAKER_03: It's you know, I've been to Mexico a couple of times.
1:23:31
SPEAKER_02: I'm scared of Mexico.
1:23:33
SPEAKER_03: I want to go to Mexico.
1:23:35
SPEAKER_03: I went to school at New Mexico State, and we would go to college night across the border.
1:23:40
SPEAKER_03: Really?
1:23:40
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and there were times walkover?
1:23:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you just need like a passport or anything at the time, no.
1:23:46
SPEAKER_03: You just needed your ID and you just paid a quarter back.
1:23:50
SPEAKER_03: Wow.
1:23:50
SPEAKER_03: You know, you just paid a quarter back, and then um, I remember my first time there, I got pretty pretty hammered walking back over, and the the guy was like, citizenship.
1:24:02
SPEAKER_03: I'm like, Native American.
1:24:03
SPEAKER_03: And he was like, excuse me.
1:24:04
SPEAKER_03: I was like, Native American.
1:24:07
SPEAKER_03: He's like, stand over here.
1:24:09
SPEAKER_03: He's like, stand over here, and I was standing there and I'm like kind of waving back and forth.
1:24:14
SPEAKER_03: And one of my uh colleagues in in school, he's just like shaking his head.
1:24:20
SPEAKER_03: He's like, I'm like, dude, don't fucking do that.
1:24:24
SPEAKER_03: He's like, then um, he came up to me.
1:24:27
SPEAKER_03: He goes, Next time you come here, if I ask you citizenship, what do you say?
1:24:31
SPEAKER_03: And I was like, American, get out of here.
1:24:35
SPEAKER_03: Native bitch.
1:24:38
SPEAKER_03: But yeah, he wasn't having no shit.
1:24:40
SPEAKER_03: No, just but ever since then it was just you know an experience.
1:24:44
SPEAKER_02: They could be strict ass people like that.
1:24:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, got off so lucky with oh, that's cool.
1:24:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, next time you don't have this, he's yelling at you.
1:24:53
SPEAKER_04: And I think one of those border control guys was actually like a fan of metal because he was just like, Oh, hell yeah, you guys played.
1:24:59
SPEAKER_04: He was just like, That's sick.
1:25:01
SPEAKER_04: Like, yeah, so we we got really lucky with that.
1:25:04
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
1:25:06
SPEAKER_04: Holy shit.
1:25:07
SPEAKER_04: And we went down, I want to say we didn't want to go back down south, but I know we went back down south for um El Paso.
1:25:15
SPEAKER_04: You remember that?
1:25:17
SPEAKER_06: Oh, yeah, we were supposed to play at the uh some bar, then it got shut down because the bands were too heavy.
1:25:23
SPEAKER_06: Too heavy.
1:25:24
SPEAKER_01: What?
1:25:24
SPEAKER_04: So we drove all the way down there and we didn't even get to play our set because after the once the first band they played their first song, they cut it off.
1:25:32
SPEAKER_04: They're like, Y'all, this is too heavy, we can't have this type of music here.
1:25:36
SPEAKER_04: What the fuck?
1:25:37
SPEAKER_04: We're gonna cancel the show, and we're just like, what the fuck, man?
1:25:41
SPEAKER_02: What were they promoting?
1:25:42
SPEAKER_04: Right?
1:25:42
SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
1:25:45
SPEAKER_04: They didn't even do their homework on the bands and stuff, so we came all the way from Farmington, all the way across New Mexico to go play there, and we didn't get to play.
1:25:53
SPEAKER_04: But there was a cool thing, there was this band on the same, there was a band on the same bill.
1:26:00
SPEAKER_04: They didn't get to play either.
1:26:01
SPEAKER_04: And since they lived in the area, they figured something out.
1:26:04
SPEAKER_04: They were just like, you know, you guys are gonna fucking play, like, I don't know where you guys are gonna play, but you guys are gonna play something.
1:26:12
SPEAKER_04: They're like, we have a bunch of uh equipment and stuff, you know, we can go get that.
1:26:16
SPEAKER_04: And then eventually on the way, they were just like, we found a place for you to play, and we went to their house so they could grab all their speakers, equipment, and stuff like that.
1:26:25
SPEAKER_04: And we were like expecting to play like at another bar or something like that, but when we rolled up to the place, it was literally someone's house.
1:26:33
SPEAKER_04: House show.
1:26:34
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, in their backyard, house show.
1:26:36
SPEAKER_02: Fucking take it, right?
1:26:37
SPEAKER_04: And and it was funny because our our guitarist, like Mark said, um, the other Mark, the white mark.
1:26:44
SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah, but he was there, and I guess he really doesn't like um bikers, and there was a ton of bikers back there.
1:26:51
SPEAKER_04: Oh shit.
1:26:52
SPEAKER_04: So he was kind of like iffy, like, oh, I don't know if I want to do it.
1:26:55
SPEAKER_04: And we're just like, me and Mark, we grew up with that with our parents.
1:26:59
SPEAKER_04: They went to motorcycle rallies all the time.
1:27:01
SPEAKER_07: Oh, hell yeah, my parents did too.
1:27:02
SPEAKER_04: Sturgis.
1:27:03
SPEAKER_04: So we were always up in Sturgis.
1:27:05
SPEAKER_02: We were just sloping.
1:27:06
SPEAKER_04: We were used to bikers, we're just like, they're not even that bad.
1:27:09
SPEAKER_04: Like, so we're like, you'll be fine and everything.
1:27:12
SPEAKER_04: And but we got to play a backyard show for some bikers and just whoever was there.
1:27:17
SPEAKER_04: And it was honestly, I think it was better than playing at that bar.
1:27:21
SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah.
1:27:22
SPEAKER_04: The scary part about that though is since we were so close to the border, people were like, don't let mosquitoes bite you.
1:27:28
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:27:29
SPEAKER_04: So we're watering just like, oh my god, man.
1:27:32
SPEAKER_04: I was just like slapping myself, like paranoid, you know what I mean?
1:27:36
SPEAKER_04: I don't want to get bit, like, because they said they come over and carry diseases and stuff like that.
1:27:42
SPEAKER_04: Oh that was kind of scary, you know.
1:27:43
SPEAKER_04: We're playing outside too.
1:27:45
SPEAKER_04: So yeah.
1:27:46
SPEAKER_04: But anyways, uh, that was a that's a story from El Paso.
1:27:50
SPEAKER_04: Like, I don't know.
1:27:51
SPEAKER_04: I just I I just think the South doesn't really like a that blows my mind though.
1:27:56
SPEAKER_02: Like, what were they even promoting?
1:27:58
SPEAKER_02: Like metal show?
1:28:00
SPEAKER_02: Rock show.
1:28:01
SPEAKER_04: Probably a rock show.
1:28:02
SPEAKER_02: Music show.
1:28:03
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it was it was just wild.
1:28:05
SPEAKER_04: We were just like, man, that's so unprofessional.
1:28:07
SPEAKER_02: They just put live music.
1:28:09
SPEAKER_06: Probably.
1:28:09
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:28:10
SPEAKER_06: Like like Brandon said, they I don't think they did their research on you know any of the bands.
1:28:16
SPEAKER_06: They didn't listen to anybody and they found out the hard way.
1:28:20
SPEAKER_04: They fucked around and found out.
1:28:21
SPEAKER_06: Once that first band went on and they got done with their so like, like you said, their first song, and they just completely just shut the whole show down.
1:28:29
SPEAKER_06: That's what they said.
1:28:30
SPEAKER_06: You're two heads.
1:28:33
SPEAKER_04: I'm sorry, guys, but the music is just too heavy.
1:28:37
SPEAKER_04: We're gonna have to cut the show.
1:28:38
SPEAKER_04: And we're just like, man, that sucks.
1:28:40
SPEAKER_04: Like I'd have been talking shit.
1:28:42
SPEAKER_02: I'd have been saying all kinds of stuff.
1:28:44
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, we were kind of upset.
1:28:46
SPEAKER_04: We're just like, well, what are we gonna do?
1:28:47
SPEAKER_04: But like like I said, that band it worked out in a way, yeah.
1:28:51
SPEAKER_04: And we made we made friends with that band and everything.
1:28:54
SPEAKER_04: And I'm not too sure where they're at now, but yeah, we've kind of uh I kind of dropped off like social media when I was out of the band and everything, so um, we really didn't get in contact back with them, but it was cool.
1:29:07
SPEAKER_04: Um it was just a cool little experience, you know.
1:29:10
SPEAKER_04: Just you know, I was just like, hell yeah, I played a backyard show, you know.
1:29:14
SPEAKER_04: That was pretty cool.
1:29:15
SPEAKER_04: It's different, you know.
1:29:18
SPEAKER_04: So yeah, I don't think I would ever want to go back down south.
1:29:26
SPEAKER_06: Well, in that area, but I think we also went down to Austin, Texas, too.
1:29:31
SPEAKER_04: Austin, Texas was fun.
1:29:33
SPEAKER_04: I don't even think I was of age to be playing in those bars.
1:29:37
SPEAKER_04: Oh shit, really?
1:29:37
SPEAKER_04: Yes, it is awesome though.
1:29:39
SPEAKER_04: We went over there to play uh South by Southwest.
1:29:42
SPEAKER_04: I don't know if you're um um know about that festival down there.
1:29:47
SPEAKER_04: I think I've heard, but I don't know much about it though.
1:29:49
SPEAKER_06: It's just what exactly is it?
1:29:51
SPEAKER_06: It's like a week-long thing that they have.
1:29:54
SPEAKER_06: Um, it's just showcasing, you know, different artists, um, people who are doing movies, um, just you know, anything that has to do with like you know, music and movies in general.
1:30:07
SPEAKER_06: So they have like a whole you know thing down there.
1:30:10
SPEAKER_06: Um, one of their streets, I think it's 6th Street, uh, it's just you know blocked off, and there's like music from like everywhere, like coming out of the almost every bar.
1:30:22
SPEAKER_04: Every bar had some band playing, and it was just so amazing to see because when we got to play, we played like right by the window where everybody was just out in the street, so there was just a ton of people just walking up, and it was kind of cool because every now and then some people would stop and come check us out, and you know that's when you go a little harder.
1:30:43
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, right.
1:30:46
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so that that was always fun to do.
1:30:50
SPEAKER_04: We had we always had fun going out there.
1:30:52
SPEAKER_08: Fuck with men, yeah.
1:30:55
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but that that was with the that was with Signal 99.
1:30:59
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
1:31:01
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, definitely.
1:31:02
SPEAKER_04: So that was a lot of fun to get out there.
1:31:05
SPEAKER_02: That he he was with um Candy Records, yeah.
1:31:09
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I remember that.
1:31:11
SPEAKER_02: Played um, I was in a band, that band, Curse Words and Cursive.
1:31:15
SPEAKER_02: That that's I think that was the last show we played.
1:31:18
SPEAKER_02: He invited us to play in Toyock at the skate park.
1:31:22
SPEAKER_04: I don't know if you guys ever I remember that.
1:31:24
SPEAKER_04: I don't I was there for you when I was just a little kid though.
1:31:28
SPEAKER_02: Okay, was that the same band?
1:31:30
SPEAKER_06: That could have been like my first show with Signal, but yeah, I don't know.
1:31:34
SPEAKER_02: That was like 2011, maybe.
1:31:36
SPEAKER_06: All right, that I was probably in the band for like three years around that time.
1:31:40
SPEAKER_06: So yeah, we played that.
1:31:42
SPEAKER_02: Did you what band was that?
1:31:43
SPEAKER_02: Tribus.
1:31:44
SPEAKER_02: Tribus for real?
1:31:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
1:31:46
SPEAKER_02: That's a I think that was the last show my band Cursed Words and Cursive played.
1:31:50
SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
1:31:51
SPEAKER_02: And uh we didn't even have the rhythm guitarist, but everyone was like, You were good.
1:31:56
SPEAKER_02: You know, I was so mad.
1:31:57
SPEAKER_02: But it was a festival and it had all the bands, and you know, the band Curse Words was on there, Curse Words and Cursive.
1:32:04
SPEAKER_02: And I was like, I bought one shirt because I was poor as fuck, you know, I didn't have any money.
1:32:10
SPEAKER_02: And I I bought one shirt and I was like, well, check it out, check it out, the band is on the shirt.
1:32:14
SPEAKER_01: That was my moment.
1:32:15
SPEAKER_02: I was like, ah, but at that time, my my rhythm guitarist was like I don't know, in tenth grade.
1:32:23
SPEAKER_02: And we were all grown adults out of school, graduated, but he was in 10th grade and he couldn't get the day off.
1:32:28
SPEAKER_02: And oh shit.
1:32:30
SPEAKER_02: So we played the show without him, and it didn't sound as good, and I was all uh and we couldn't find another guitar player after that.
1:32:37
SPEAKER_02: And the drummer fell off, and I was just like, whatever.
1:32:40
SPEAKER_02: But the music's still out there, you know.
1:32:43
SPEAKER_02: You can go on I think it's Bandcamp and find curse words and cursive all the music I wrote and recorded.
1:32:50
SPEAKER_02: I gotta take a listen.
1:32:52
SPEAKER_02: You should, you should.
1:32:53
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I think I have it on my computer.
1:32:55
SPEAKER_02: I have a CD in my car.
1:32:56
SPEAKER_02: You know, I I I wrote that whole album by myself.
1:32:59
SPEAKER_02: I recorded it all by myself.
1:33:01
SPEAKER_02: Didn't have a metronome, didn't have nothing.
1:33:03
SPEAKER_02: I didn't have a broken down, shitty trailer on a little old computer, and it had a little line six interface with the volume and I I did the drums off a keyboard like that, and it is what it was.
1:33:21
SPEAKER_02: And eventually I got a metronome and the songs progressed as they did, and I just went from there.
1:33:27
SPEAKER_02: Nice and I released it, and people liked it, and people loved it, and people were singing the lyrics when we played.
1:33:34
SPEAKER_00: But my members were just like, I'm getting tired.
1:33:37
SPEAKER_00: Oh, I don't want to, oh, I'm freaking out, I don't want to play.
1:33:41
SPEAKER_02: And then one of them got a girl pregnant, and it was just like it just dropped down, and nobody wanted to.
1:33:47
SPEAKER_02: I was just like, whatever, it's a lost cause.
1:33:49
SPEAKER_02: And I went and joined another band, but changed genres is what I did too.
1:33:56
SPEAKER_02: So but yeah, it's it's always inspiring.
1:33:59
SPEAKER_02: I think that's why I started the podcast to talk to other bands, to meet people.
1:34:03
SPEAKER_02: Like, how did you write music?
1:34:04
SPEAKER_02: Because that in 2021, I was living here still by myself, and that was my studio room in there.
1:34:12
SPEAKER_02: You guys saw it, and I was writing music, and I was just like, I don't know if this music's good.
1:34:16
SPEAKER_02: I don't even know.
1:34:17
SPEAKER_02: I should I I should ask somebody, I should reach out to somebody, I should talk to somebody.
1:34:21
SPEAKER_02: How do you write music?
1:34:22
SPEAKER_02: How does music come to this?
1:34:23
SPEAKER_02: How does this happen?
1:34:24
SPEAKER_04: And it just became what it is now, and it just kind of I'm always like afraid to try to write.
1:34:31
SPEAKER_04: I'm just like, it's gonna sound too much like something, and then someone's gonna get out of here.
1:34:35
SPEAKER_04: That's what you gotta get out of though.
1:34:38
SPEAKER_02: Oh, you gotta not think that, you know.
1:34:40
SPEAKER_04: I remember Mark was like that one time.
1:34:42
SPEAKER_04: He was trying to write riffs, and um, he was I think we're trying to go more towards like a hardcore sound, you know, before all of that got big, but he just kept going back to it.
1:34:52
SPEAKER_04: He's like, This sounds like a terror song.
1:34:54
SPEAKER_04: It sounds like a terror song.
1:34:55
SPEAKER_04: No, you can't like bro, just switch one thing up about it and we'll be good.
1:35:01
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
1:35:02
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, that's that's that's one of the other things too.
1:35:06
SPEAKER_02: Like every time I would write a song, my guitar player, the first guitar player I had, like, I chose him, like, you're gonna play guitar for me.
1:35:11
SPEAKER_02: He's like, Oh, okay.
1:35:12
SPEAKER_02: And you know, he just kept on it.
1:35:14
SPEAKER_02: It sounds like this, it sounds like that, sounds like this, it sounds too much like this.
1:35:17
SPEAKER_02: No, people aren't gonna like it.
1:35:17
SPEAKER_02: They're gonna say it's this, they're gonna judge us.
1:35:19
SPEAKER_02: And I was like, Stop! It's not we can do this, you know.
1:35:25
SPEAKER_02: Um, but I don't know.
1:35:27
SPEAKER_02: I think that's what that's what really makes writing hard.
1:35:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, most definitely.
1:35:32
SPEAKER_02: You're just in your head too much.
1:35:34
SPEAKER_03: Like you are your own biggest critic.
1:35:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I made a video of that.
1:35:37
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if you guys saw it, it's on my page where I'm like, like, I I it's just a reenactment of that movie Clerks.
1:35:43
SPEAKER_02: Have you seen Clerks?
1:35:45
SPEAKER_02: The original from like '95.
1:35:47
SPEAKER_02: The black and white?
1:35:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:35:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:35:49
SPEAKER_02: I I reenacted that whole part, but made it about music, you know.
1:35:53
SPEAKER_02: They all sound the same, but no one tells you if it's good or not.
1:35:56
SPEAKER_02: Or if it's good, I don't know.
1:35:58
SPEAKER_02: I don't play guitar.
1:35:58
SPEAKER_02: How's that?
1:35:59
SPEAKER_02: It's silly, it's on my page.
1:36:00
SPEAKER_02: I'll show you guys here afterwards.
1:36:02
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, uh, that's how I felt.
1:36:04
SPEAKER_02: I was just like, I don't know if I'm doing this right.
1:36:06
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
1:36:07
SPEAKER_02: Maybe I should reach out to somebody, maybe I should talk to somebody.
1:36:10
SPEAKER_02: And then I brought up the podcast to my buddy Elijah, and I was just like, we should do a podcast, we should do a podcast.
1:36:16
SPEAKER_02: And he was like, uh you should do the podcast, I'll help you with it.
1:36:19
SPEAKER_02: And I was like, okay, you know, and then I was just like, who do I get though?
1:36:24
SPEAKER_02: And I started reaching out to random people, and then I started talking to music people, and it just kind of spiraled from there.
1:36:30
SPEAKER_02: But you know, I love hearing stories about people's bands, you know, and it it helps.
1:36:36
SPEAKER_02: I think we were talking about that on the last one, remember?
1:36:38
SPEAKER_02: It was like sometimes like you guys' biggest fans are scared to come talk to you guys.
1:36:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, most of them.
1:36:45
SPEAKER_01: They're just like, oh man, you know, I want to go say hi to the bass player, but you I just recently.
1:36:51
SPEAKER_04: I recently just had that at Ship Rock.
1:36:53
SPEAKER_04: I had someone message me like, hey, I wanted to come talk with you guys at at the end of the show, but I was too scared.
1:37:00
SPEAKER_04: You look like you didn't want to be bothered.
1:37:02
SPEAKER_07: Like, bro, stop.
1:37:04
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I was just like, no, you're good.
1:37:05
SPEAKER_04: Like, well, you know, come up to us and we'll talk to you, you know, and just don't be scared.
1:37:09
SPEAKER_01: Travis is gonna be like, bro, Travis gonna be like, don't talk to my bass player.
1:37:17
SPEAKER_03: For real, you know.
1:37:18
SPEAKER_03: You can talk to my bass player, just give me a hot dog.
1:37:22
SPEAKER_01: You gotta get him a hot dog.
1:37:26
SPEAKER_01: Makes me want a hot dog real bad.
1:37:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and like people listen to this show and then get a good feel for you know, these guys are really cool.
1:37:35
SPEAKER_02: I'd love to come say hi to you guys.
1:37:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, most definitely know that you guys aren't like really scary or me or anything.
1:37:40
SPEAKER_02: We're not scary head on.
1:37:42
SPEAKER_02: We're just fun guys who like to have fun, you know.
1:37:44
SPEAKER_02: We nerd out on our own shit.
1:37:47
SPEAKER_04: You know, yeah, see, like that, you know, like if you want to nerd out, just talk Star Wars with me.
1:37:52
SPEAKER_04: Oh, see, see, yeah, I brought that up.
1:37:54
SPEAKER_02: I think I said that on Dugan's podcast.
1:37:56
SPEAKER_02: I was like, I thought I knew my shit on Star Wars until I played Brainfart with Brandon.
1:38:00
SPEAKER_02: I don't know shit about Star Wars.
1:38:02
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, dude, I'd love to talk nerdy stuff with bands, you know.
1:38:07
SPEAKER_02: And yeah, I think that's getting ruled out by a lot of people to look cool.
1:38:11
SPEAKER_02: Like, oh, you guys are metal bands.
1:38:13
SPEAKER_02: Oh, you like this, you like that, like Pokemon, you like Legos.
1:38:17
SPEAKER_01: That's not cool.
1:38:18
SPEAKER_01: You gotta be cool.
1:38:19
SPEAKER_02: And it's just like, no, the fuck you don't like what you like, it's yours.
1:38:23
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
1:38:24
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's a good vibe with these guys when I when I'm with them, it's always a different conversation, but I always gravitate toward like what Mark said, the kaiju movies, the Godzilla movies and the the monster movies, and I'm oh yeah, I dig that.
1:38:38
SPEAKER_03: Exactly what you're talking about.
1:38:39
SPEAKER_03: And then we talk about our our old action movies, and we'll we'll kind of quote things here and there.
1:38:45
SPEAKER_03: Arnold.
1:38:45
SPEAKER_03: Arnold, Arnold, and it's always, you know, uh the songs, you know, when we're on the road, it's always a random song that pops up.
1:38:56
SPEAKER_03: We already know who it is.
1:38:57
SPEAKER_03: We all do that oh share, we all do that Spotify share.
1:39:01
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, we do the whole Spotify Share thing whenever we go travel, so we're all just adding different kinds of music.
1:39:07
SPEAKER_03: I'll be driving and I look at I look at the screen and it's like rock and roll McDonald's, and I look over in the corner of my eye.
1:39:14
SPEAKER_03: I see Mark like just bust out laughing, but it's it's it's it's it's a fun experience, and it's it's just it's I love it.
1:39:25
SPEAKER_03: You know, I love that you have fun with it, yeah.
1:39:28
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:39:28
SPEAKER_06: And I think it just goes to show too that you can have fun being a sober band.
1:39:33
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah.
1:39:34
SPEAKER_06: You can have tons of fun.
1:39:35
SPEAKER_06: I mean, I think there's people out there who you know, once we stop drinking, they're like, oh, you guys aren't fun no more.
1:39:42
SPEAKER_06: It's just like you don't have to drink.
1:39:44
SPEAKER_06: How long have you guys been sober?
1:39:47
SPEAKER_06: Uh I'm going five years now, probably think six years next year, actually.
1:39:52
SPEAKER_06: How about two years?
1:39:53
SPEAKER_06: Hell yeah.
1:39:54
SPEAKER_03: Like over a year now.
1:39:55
SPEAKER_03: Oh, cool, cool.
1:39:56
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's yeah, it's been a it's been an experience, you know, but I'm happy for it.
1:40:01
SPEAKER_03: You know, I I um I I feel more clear headed, you know.
1:40:08
SPEAKER_03: I remember shit when we're when we're playing, and and um, you know, the like like they said, you know, people gravitate towards you when you have that mentality.
1:40:17
SPEAKER_03: You know, we it was there too when we when we drank, you know, we had a couple of beers, people, oh fuck yeah, you guys are awesome, let me buy you a beer, yada yada yada.
1:40:24
SPEAKER_03: But now it's like, you know, oh hey, let me buy you beer.
1:40:27
SPEAKER_03: Oh, I'm good.
1:40:28
SPEAKER_03: Do you have a joint?
1:40:30
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, take that, you know.
1:40:32
SPEAKER_03: Even that, you know, they they smoke, and we we I used to smoke with them.
1:40:36
SPEAKER_03: We would take gummies, but now I'm I think I'm four or five months off of the off of the green.
1:40:43
SPEAKER_03: Okay, and you know, it's helped out a lot, you know.
1:40:46
SPEAKER_03: But like Mark said, you know, it's you know, we kind of lost some circles because of the sobriety.
1:40:52
SPEAKER_02: But but that's fine.
1:40:54
SPEAKER_02: You don't fucking need it, dude.
1:40:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, me myself, I'm not sober.
1:40:58
SPEAKER_02: I I can get sober.
1:41:00
SPEAKER_02: I've been sober for four months, and then I was just like, I'll have a drink.
1:41:05
SPEAKER_02: But to those who are sober, you know, I love you guys.
1:41:08
SPEAKER_02: I'm I am happy for you guys.
1:41:10
SPEAKER_02: I I'm proud of you.
1:41:11
SPEAKER_02: You know, it it is it is a lot.
1:41:13
SPEAKER_02: It's hard to get sober.
1:41:15
SPEAKER_04: It is hard.
1:41:16
SPEAKER_04: We always get a lot of people who ask us, like, you know, how do you how do you do it?
1:41:20
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
1:41:21
SPEAKER_04: And um, me personally, um, I have a five-year-old daughter.
1:41:27
SPEAKER_04: So, like, I got to that point to where I was just like, you know, I want to stop doing this, you know, I want to be around longer for her.
1:41:35
SPEAKER_04: And it just kind of all became about her.
1:41:38
SPEAKER_04: I was just like, you know, I'm gonna do this for her.
1:41:40
SPEAKER_04: And that's what I tell people.
1:41:41
SPEAKER_04: I'm just like, I had a reason to do it because of my daughter.
1:41:45
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:41:45
SPEAKER_04: And I was like, so that just makes it even easier for me because honestly, if I were to have a drink on accident, it'd probably make me cry or something like that.
1:41:55
SPEAKER_04: So shitty.
1:41:55
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:41:56
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, because it's all for my daughter.
1:41:58
SPEAKER_04: Like, I just feel like I would fail her if I were to take a drink again.
1:42:01
SPEAKER_04: Like, I just don't ever want her to see me like that or anything like that.
1:42:06
SPEAKER_04: So that was my biggest, you know, to get out of that.
1:42:10
SPEAKER_04: Or just like, you know, I want to be around longer and stuff like that.
1:42:14
SPEAKER_04: So I used to get bad, you know, drinking and stuff like that.
1:42:18
SPEAKER_04: Like, yeah, you know the drama and everything that comes.
1:42:23
SPEAKER_02: I try to stay away from anybody who can't handle this shit.
1:42:27
SPEAKER_02: But then again, I like to stay home and have my drink.
1:42:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I like to watch a movie.
1:42:31
SPEAKER_02: Growing up, my dad was always like, if you're gonna drink, stay at home in your underwear because you can't fucking go nowhere.
1:42:36
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, okay, but that's why I stayed.
1:42:39
SPEAKER_02: And like, you know, I'm not big on going out to bars and not going out to big to places in public.
1:42:45
SPEAKER_02: I like to stay home and watch TV and you know, have a drink.
1:42:49
SPEAKER_02: And um, I always thought like alcohol, because I've been to AA's, I've been to clubs, I've been to all that.
1:42:55
SPEAKER_02: Not clubs, but like groups, you know.
1:42:57
SPEAKER_02: And you know, everybody has their stories, and I'm just like, whoa, I never went that hard.
1:43:03
SPEAKER_02: Like that, you know.
1:43:04
SPEAKER_02: And I don't judge people at all by that, but you know, I am I am very proud of you guys for sticking it out.
1:43:13
SPEAKER_04: We don't think we really don't try to like push it on people because to eat to each their own, you know, if that's what you want to do, that's cool.
1:43:20
SPEAKER_04: You know, this is what we do.
1:43:21
SPEAKER_04: We respect with us.
1:43:22
SPEAKER_04: We respect you, you know.
1:43:24
SPEAKER_04: You respect us, we'll respect you, you know.
1:43:26
SPEAKER_04: So yeah, it's just yeah, we don't we don't really try to tell people, you know, stop drinking.
1:43:34
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, definitely.
1:43:35
SPEAKER_04: So the whole vegan thing.
1:43:36
SPEAKER_04: That's what you don't eat meat, it's gonna be same shit.
1:43:40
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, so but yeah, I you know that's that's that's awesome.
1:43:45
SPEAKER_02: I love you guys for that.
1:43:46
SPEAKER_02: That's it.
1:43:46
SPEAKER_04: And then Mark was also a a big inspiration to me because he was already sober at the time too.
1:43:51
SPEAKER_04: So I was like, you know, if he could do it, I can do it.
1:43:53
SPEAKER_07: So yeah.
1:43:55
SPEAKER_07: So that's that's awesome.
1:43:56
SPEAKER_04: It's been very good though, like we don't have to deal with any of that drama anymore that comes with it.
1:44:02
SPEAKER_04: So, you know, we're very proud to be sober and we really embrace it.
1:44:07
SPEAKER_02: So I'm glad.
1:44:10
SPEAKER_02: I hope you guys show the world that you want that.
1:44:13
SPEAKER_02: Like, yeah, we're sober.
1:44:15
SPEAKER_02: You can have fun sober.
1:44:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
1:44:17
SPEAKER_03: And honestly, it's like a like Brandon was saying, it's a it's a more intense experience when you're sober, if that makes sense.
1:44:25
SPEAKER_03: You know, before it was like for me, it was like you needed it to feel that intensity.
1:44:31
SPEAKER_03: Like when we were when we would play, you know, I'd have a shot or two, or maybe even a beer before we went on.
1:44:36
SPEAKER_03: It's like that liquid courage, kind of get up there and do do your thing.
1:44:42
SPEAKER_03: But like all the rock stars did it, all your heroes did it, everybody did it.
1:44:46
SPEAKER_03: You're like, why the fuck can't I?
1:44:48
SPEAKER_03: I want to feel what they felt.
1:44:49
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know, now you know, being being in that that mentality of not having a drink or having to smoke before you go on, you know, the smoke did did intensify that feeling more than the alcohol, but even now it's like, you know, I I feel like it's in more interaction, it's more intimate in a sense, you know.
1:45:09
SPEAKER_03: I before I would just kind of glaze over the crowd or I would face the band members or I would look at look at the ground or close even close my eyes, but now it's like, oh, there's people here, you know.
1:45:19
SPEAKER_03: And you know, when I when I see people, I kind of make eye contact, and then it's like, holy shit, you know.
1:45:25
SPEAKER_03: And that's even more intense.
1:45:27
SPEAKER_03: But at the same time, you know, you see them singing your own songs when you said that, and you know, I'm like, holy shit, you know, they're they're singing what we created, and that just hypes you up, just it's a more adrenaline, right?
1:45:40
SPEAKER_03: And then sometimes I'll look over at Brandon or even Mark and they're like gritting down or playing and they're voicing the same.
1:45:46
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and it's like, holy shit, you know.
1:45:49
SPEAKER_03: But I love it, you know.
1:45:50
SPEAKER_03: I I I um I'm happy with where we're at as a group and where it's going.
1:45:57
SPEAKER_03: And you know, we really we really try to push each other to be um I don't want to say better, but progressive, you know, be more yeah to be more um in tune with each other.
1:46:11
SPEAKER_03: And it's and it's and it's and it and it it really makes me happy where we're at.
1:46:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:46:17
SPEAKER_02: Hell yeah.
1:46:18
SPEAKER_02: Well, I can't stress it enough, guys.
1:46:20
SPEAKER_02: I'm proud of y'all.
1:46:21
SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
1:46:22
SPEAKER_02: That's fucking dope.
1:46:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:46:24
SPEAKER_02: I'll get to that point eventually.
1:46:26
SPEAKER_02: A lot of my heroes have have gone sober too.
1:46:29
SPEAKER_02: You know, uh we went to Wednesday 13.
1:46:32
SPEAKER_02: You guys know Wednesday 13.
1:46:33
SPEAKER_02: We went to Wednesday 13 in Albuquerque last week on Tuesday.
1:46:37
SPEAKER_02: Oh my god, it was like the best fucking show I've been to in a long time.
1:46:42
SPEAKER_02: And I've said on the on the podcast before, I think I've seen everybody I want to see live.
1:46:47
SPEAKER_02: I don't really need to go to big concerts.
1:46:49
SPEAKER_02: Like, I've seen System three times.
1:46:51
SPEAKER_02: System of a down is my shit.
1:46:53
SPEAKER_02: I will say that forever and ever.
1:46:55
SPEAKER_02: That that is my that is my thing.
1:46:57
SPEAKER_02: That is the top.
1:46:59
SPEAKER_03: I actually went to that show.
1:47:00
SPEAKER_03: Which one?
1:47:01
SPEAKER_03: The Wednesday 13 show in Albuquerque, yeah.
1:47:04
SPEAKER_02: Sunshine.
1:47:05
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:47:05
SPEAKER_02: You were there?
1:47:06
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:47:06
SPEAKER_02: Did you see me?
1:47:07
SPEAKER_02: My face was all painted.
1:47:08
SPEAKER_02: I had white contact.
1:47:10
SPEAKER_03: No.
1:47:12
SPEAKER_02: I ran into the crowd, I was like, what the I want to party with you, man!
1:47:15
SPEAKER_03: It was it was not in my comfort zone, to be honest.
1:47:18
SPEAKER_03: I was like, I don't know anybody here.
1:47:20
SPEAKER_03: Like, I didn't recognize anybody.
1:47:22
SPEAKER_03: Like, I didn't I didn't see you, and I was like, who what the hell?
1:47:27
SPEAKER_03: You know, it was a different crowd.
1:47:28
SPEAKER_03: It was it was that goth crowd.
1:47:30
SPEAKER_03: And I knew my father didn't know.
1:47:34
SPEAKER_03: You don't stand by us.
1:47:35
SPEAKER_02: We were right up front.
1:47:36
SPEAKER_02: Oh, really?
1:47:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we well, I didn't like the the the second band that was there.
1:47:42
SPEAKER_03: That was the reason why I went.
1:47:43
SPEAKER_03: Dead on a Sunday.
1:47:44
SPEAKER_03: I love Dead on the Sunday.
1:47:45
SPEAKER_03: I'm a big fan.
1:47:46
SPEAKER_03: I like it.
1:47:47
SPEAKER_02: It was it was it was they're kind of like uh what's that band called?
1:47:50
SPEAKER_02: 69 Eyes.
1:47:52
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, a little.
1:47:53
SPEAKER_03: They're kind of like um have you heard Unto Others?
1:47:56
SPEAKER_02: No, I've heard of them, I never listened to them.
1:47:59
SPEAKER_03: They're pretty dope too.
1:48:00
SPEAKER_03: They were in town a couple they were in town during baby metal, and I wanted to go see that show, but it was just already last moment, and I'm like, nah, I can't, I'm not gonna make it.
1:48:10
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but yeah, I went to that show and I was wanted to see Dead on a Sunday, but what Wednesday was was different, it was different, you know.
1:48:20
SPEAKER_03: But man, being a front man, shit.
1:48:23
SPEAKER_03: He was he was out there, yeah.
1:48:25
SPEAKER_02: He's a great front, he's a great front man, yes, yes.
1:48:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, oh my gosh.
1:48:30
SPEAKER_02: I've I've been cheesing out on him since like eighth grade and shit.
1:48:34
SPEAKER_04: Last time I probably seen them was a long time ago, and it was in Gallup.
1:48:38
SPEAKER_04: Do you remember the venue?
1:48:39
SPEAKER_04: Didn't you?
1:48:41
SPEAKER_04: I've seen it at least Juggernaut Slap Shots, slap shots, like slap shots billiards, yeah.
1:48:46
SPEAKER_02: I was supposed 2016.
1:48:48
SPEAKER_02: I was supposed to go to that.
1:48:49
SPEAKER_02: I bought tickets and I never got to go.
1:48:51
SPEAKER_04: That was such a cool show because after they were done, he came out and talked with everybody and yeah, it was awesome.
1:48:57
SPEAKER_02: I saw him in the juggernaut with One Eyed Doll, and I forgot who else.
1:49:03
SPEAKER_04: Speaking of One Eyed Doll, we played with them in uh South by Southwest.
1:49:06
SPEAKER_04: No Kimberly is like the sweetest person ever.
1:49:09
SPEAKER_04: Freeman, Kimberly, Freeman.
1:49:11
SPEAKER_04: She is.
1:49:11
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, she's the sweetest person ever.
1:49:13
SPEAKER_04: Like, yeah, I think they were even there to watch us for a bit, weren't they?
1:49:18
SPEAKER_06: Um, I don't think I was in the band.
1:49:20
SPEAKER_04: Oh, I don't think Mark was in the band at the time.
1:49:22
SPEAKER_04: But the cool thing was the stage that we played at, they had like a little backstage area.
1:49:26
SPEAKER_04: I don't I don't know the dude's name, but he was the bass player for Disturbed.
1:49:30
SPEAKER_04: He was back there just casually walking around.
1:49:32
SPEAKER_04: For real?
1:49:33
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:49:33
SPEAKER_04: And he even got on to play with uh One Eyed Doll for a song, so I guess that's why he was there hanging out.
1:49:40
SPEAKER_02: Wow.
1:49:40
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so that was cool.
1:49:41
SPEAKER_04: I didn't know who he was, uh our manager at the time.
1:49:44
SPEAKER_04: She was just like, That's the guy from Disturb, it's their bass player.
1:49:47
SPEAKER_04: And I was just like, Whoa, he's back here with us.
1:49:51
SPEAKER_04: He was kind of starstruck, you know what I mean?
1:49:53
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, like this is cool, you know?
1:49:55
SPEAKER_04: It's cool to be.
1:49:58
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:50:00
SPEAKER_03: I like to play.
1:50:00
SPEAKER_04: But yeah, yeah.
1:50:02
SPEAKER_04: Coolest thing about that was One Eye Doll.
1:50:05
SPEAKER_04: I just love how different they are and they're so her and the drummer.
1:50:09
SPEAKER_02: I think his name is Junior.
1:50:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
1:50:11
SPEAKER_02: And she run up and jump into his arms.
1:50:13
SPEAKER_01: And I was like, holy shit.
1:50:14
SPEAKER_04: She just gets up on top of his kit too and stuff like that.
1:50:17
SPEAKER_04: It's like, man, this is such a good show.
1:50:19
SPEAKER_01: I was like, what the fuck?
1:50:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I had stickers and shirts of One Eye Doll.
1:50:23
SPEAKER_02: And then um, yeah, I saw Wednesday at The Juggernaut.
1:50:27
SPEAKER_02: That's where I saw them.
1:50:28
SPEAKER_02: And then uh Murder Dolls.
1:50:32
SPEAKER_02: Oh, Sick New World.
1:50:34
SPEAKER_02: And then that one.
1:50:36
SPEAKER_02: So that's making my third time seeing that Wednesday.
1:50:39
SPEAKER_01: And there was not a lot of people there at that sunshine?
1:50:42
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was like half the park was empty.
1:50:46
SPEAKER_04: I don't think really anybody knows of Wednesday 13 that much.
1:50:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:50:50
SPEAKER_02: I I I won't lie.
1:50:52
SPEAKER_02: I fucking cried.
1:50:54
SPEAKER_02: It took me back to eighth grade.
1:50:55
SPEAKER_02: He sounded just like it.
1:50:57
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's exactly what I took away from the show.
1:51:00
SPEAKER_04: I was like, man, I love those shows where the band sounds exactly like the album.
1:51:04
SPEAKER_04: Like I'm like, holy shit.
1:51:06
SPEAKER_04: That's so cool.
1:51:07
SPEAKER_03: For me, it was the like I said, the intensity of being that that guy.
1:51:11
SPEAKER_03: You know, he was he was out there, like he was up there doing his thing, and and it was I was like, holy shit, you know, to see somebody do do their part to the to the fullest of their capacity.
1:51:25
SPEAKER_03: And I was like, holy shit.
1:51:26
SPEAKER_03: He's been around for years.
1:51:28
SPEAKER_02: I I remember I bought the deluxe from Hastings.
1:51:31
SPEAKER_02: Remember Hastings, where Harbor Frights is?
1:51:34
SPEAKER_02: I ordered, pre-ordered, and I got his first band called Frankenstein Drag Queens from the Planet 13.
1:51:40
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
1:51:40
SPEAKER_02: It was a box set.
1:51:41
SPEAKER_02: Well, from like 1996.
1:51:45
SPEAKER_02: Way back when he was performing in Carolina.
1:51:48
SPEAKER_02: He was all drag, and he was he actually played his guitar and he was singing all the original songs, 1976, 66.
1:51:55
SPEAKER_02: And um I followed him since then, and I was just a big fan.
1:52:00
SPEAKER_02: I made my own Wednesday 13 shirts.
1:52:02
SPEAKER_02: Nice.
1:52:03
SPEAKER_02: Oh, hell yeah.
1:52:04
SPEAKER_02: And just for him to be up there singing those songs, I cried.
1:52:07
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if you heard us.
1:52:08
SPEAKER_02: Me and my girl, every time everyone's like, Woo! Me and my girl are like, kitty, kitty, kiddy, kiddie, come here, kiddy, come here, kitty.
1:52:17
SPEAKER_02: Do the roar, do the roar, the roar from we're like saying the most random shit, screaming out.
1:52:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:52:24
SPEAKER_03: That was probably why he was like kept pointing.
1:52:28
SPEAKER_03: Are you guys were you guys on the right or left side?
1:52:30
SPEAKER_02: We were let's see, the stage here, we were on this.
1:52:33
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he kept pointing that way.
1:52:34
SPEAKER_03: So I'm I'm thinking, yeah, he was like kept pointing that way.
1:52:38
SPEAKER_02: He was looking at me at one point.
1:52:39
SPEAKER_02: I think oh, it was the last song he played.
1:52:42
SPEAKER_02: What the fuck was that one called?
1:52:43
SPEAKER_02: Oh, uh, love to say fuck.
1:52:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:52:48
SPEAKER_02: Then he was looking at an umbrella fucking fucking fucking.
1:52:51
SPEAKER_02: He was coming, that's me.
1:52:52
SPEAKER_02: I was like, I had my contacts, my face was all painted.
1:52:58
SPEAKER_03: And it's funny because he was like literally pointing at everybody, and then when he saw me, and he was like, For real.
1:53:06
SPEAKER_02: It kind of like pissed me off a little bit because there was people that were standing up front who didn't give a fuck.
1:53:12
SPEAKER_02: There's like a gangster dude.
1:53:13
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if you saw him.
1:53:14
SPEAKER_02: He was standing right in front of us.
1:53:14
SPEAKER_02: He was just like he didn't care.
1:53:16
SPEAKER_02: He was just like, everyone was singing.
1:53:18
SPEAKER_02: I think he had his little sister or a girlfriend who was like, but she would he had a backwards cap and he was just like just like Smokey from Friday.
1:53:26
SPEAKER_02: He was just like, he did not care.
1:53:28
SPEAKER_03: It wasn't his bag.
1:53:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and he was just on the rails, like, dude, I could be standing there.
1:53:33
SPEAKER_02: I'm singing all the fucking songs.
1:53:34
SPEAKER_02: That's my spot.
1:53:35
SPEAKER_02: That's my spot.
1:53:36
SPEAKER_02: That's my spot.
1:53:37
SPEAKER_02: Let's see.
1:53:38
SPEAKER_02: I have I have the last video over here.
1:53:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's us.
1:53:44
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:53:45
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if you saw us, but our eyes were all white, we're all gone.
1:53:49
SPEAKER_03: Nice.
1:53:50
SPEAKER_02: Faces all painted and whatnot.
1:53:52
SPEAKER_03: Hell yeah.
1:53:53
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:53:54
SPEAKER_02: That was that was a great show.
1:53:57
SPEAKER_02: And I kept saying that to my lady.
1:53:59
SPEAKER_00: Fucking awesome show.
1:54:00
SPEAKER_00: Fucking awesome show.
1:54:01
SPEAKER_02: We were supposed to go uh Wednesday to Blitzkid.
1:54:05
SPEAKER_02: Oh.
1:54:06
SPEAKER_02: That was this this this week, but we went three almost four weeks in a row going to Albuquerque, coming back, and then going to work the next morning.
1:54:16
SPEAKER_02: Fuck no.
1:54:17
SPEAKER_02: Uh uh.
1:54:17
SPEAKER_02: We know last time we almost hit a deer coming back from Baseball.
1:54:20
SPEAKER_02: I don't remember doing that.
1:54:21
SPEAKER_02: Ugh.
1:54:21
SPEAKER_02: Fucking awful.
1:54:22
SPEAKER_02: Everybody got enough drink.
1:54:24
SPEAKER_02: Everybody good?
1:54:25
SPEAKER_03: Yes, thank you.
1:54:28
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, I am a slut for Wednesday 13.
1:54:32
SPEAKER_02: I could say I balled my eyes out for that.
1:54:35
SPEAKER_02: Just because it's too dude, you were fucking there.
1:54:41
SPEAKER_02: Okay, I was on this side of the stage.
1:54:43
SPEAKER_03: It was like right in the middle.
1:54:44
SPEAKER_02: Oh my god.
1:54:45
SPEAKER_02: I probably bumped you then.
1:54:47
SPEAKER_02: I bought a dude a beer because he he was holding his beer and then he threw out the spiders.
1:54:51
SPEAKER_02: He's like, kid, remember he was throwing out the spiders?
1:54:54
SPEAKER_02: I was on the floor and I was like, nobody was picking them up.
1:54:57
SPEAKER_02: And then I popped up, boom.
1:54:59
SPEAKER_02: The guy's beer went all of a sudden, bitch.
1:55:02
SPEAKER_02: Then he's like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
1:55:04
SPEAKER_02: I was like, uh it's okay.
1:55:06
SPEAKER_02: You know, singing.
1:55:07
SPEAKER_02: Then I told my girls, I'm gonna go buy him a new beer.
1:55:10
SPEAKER_02: I feel so bad.
1:55:11
SPEAKER_02: And I ran back there.
1:55:12
SPEAKER_02: I was like, here you go.
1:55:13
SPEAKER_03: And I thought that was surprising to see to have see somebody drinking on the floor like that.
1:55:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that too.
1:55:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we were just like, What the fuck?
1:55:20
SPEAKER_02: So I went and bought him a new beer.
1:55:21
SPEAKER_02: I was like, here you go, man.
1:55:23
SPEAKER_02: He's like, Are you serious?
1:55:24
SPEAKER_02: I was like, Yeah, it it's fine.
1:55:26
SPEAKER_02: Then he he pulled out a handful of picks.
1:55:28
SPEAKER_02: He was like, Here, man, mad respect.
1:55:30
SPEAKER_02: And I was like, he gave me Wednesday 13 picks, dude.
1:55:33
SPEAKER_02: And then I looked, it's all his own picks.
1:55:36
SPEAKER_02: What the fuck is this?
1:55:37
SPEAKER_02: What the fuck?
1:55:39
SPEAKER_02: I was like, okay.
1:55:41
SPEAKER_02: They're still in my pants.
1:55:42
SPEAKER_02: I don't know whether I but yeah, I was just like, I guess they're not women.
1:55:46
SPEAKER_04: Speaking about the beer, there's probably worse things that could that could get on me.
1:55:51
SPEAKER_04: Or else I've had a show where I went to where there was this lady behind me.
1:55:56
SPEAKER_04: She fucking threw up on me.
1:55:59
SPEAKER_04: No, she was so drunk, like dude.
1:56:03
SPEAKER_04: I knew she was drunk because like she kept fucking pushing up on me, and she was trying to get past me to go up front, and like she was going as far as to giving me like nipple twisters and stuff like that.
1:56:15
SPEAKER_04: And then after that, you know, she fucking, you know, I just felt something on my back like right there, and it just all went down.
1:56:24
SPEAKER_04: I was all wearing my new sweater that I got at that show, too.
1:56:28
SPEAKER_04: I was just like, God, man.
1:56:29
SPEAKER_04: I was like, this lady just threw up on me.
1:56:31
SPEAKER_04: I was like, I'm glad I have a sweater on.
1:56:33
SPEAKER_04: So I just fucking took it off and held it the rest of the show.
1:56:37
SPEAKER_04: I was like, man.
1:56:38
SPEAKER_04: And then after that, that lady was gone.
1:56:40
SPEAKER_04: I was like, Do you really just have to fucking just throw up on me?
1:56:47
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so I was just like, yeah, I would have rather had beer spill on me.
1:56:52
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
1:56:53
SPEAKER_04: Oh god.
1:56:54
SPEAKER_06: I I I took his hoodie to my friend's house the next day and washed it.
1:56:58
SPEAKER_06: Oh gosh.
1:57:00
SPEAKER_06: What show was that?
1:57:01
SPEAKER_06: Um stick to your guns.
1:57:03
SPEAKER_04: Stick to your guns, yeah.
1:57:05
SPEAKER_04: Wasn't wasn't knock loose there?
1:57:07
SPEAKER_04: Uh I think it was stick to your guns and bear tooth.
1:57:11
SPEAKER_04: Was it Bear Tooth?
1:57:12
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
1:57:13
SPEAKER_04: I think trying to figure out which sweater it was, but I don't remember.
1:57:16
SPEAKER_06: I think it was your knock loose sweater that you had.
1:57:18
SPEAKER_06: Okay, oh it was a knock loose sweater.
1:57:20
SPEAKER_06: Is that new?
1:57:21
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
1:57:22
SPEAKER_04: I think I just recently got that like a couple of weeks before that show.
1:57:26
SPEAKER_04: So I was just like, yeah, I'm gonna wear it at a show.
1:57:28
SPEAKER_06: I think I got them that I think I got them that hoodie for Christmas.
1:57:31
SPEAKER_06: I think.
1:57:33
SPEAKER_06: Oh god.
1:57:33
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and it was horrible.
1:57:35
SPEAKER_04: I was just like, man, this this this jacket's ruined, but he got it washed the next day.
1:57:40
SPEAKER_04: I was just like, I was so thankful for that.
1:57:42
SPEAKER_04: I was like, if it sat there for like two days, probably it would have probably been not wearable anymore.
1:57:48
SPEAKER_04: The viol would have bleached you.
1:57:50
SPEAKER_04: Oh my god.
1:57:53
SPEAKER_04: It's so horrible.
1:57:53
SPEAKER_02: It's horrible to think about.
1:57:55
SPEAKER_02: Ate through the fabric.
1:57:56
SPEAKER_02: What does he say on the 40-year-old virgin?
1:57:58
SPEAKER_02: You have clam fish for breakfast.
1:58:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, steam clam.
1:58:05
SPEAKER_04: Tasting it a little too.
1:58:10
SPEAKER_02: Came out of nowhere pretty much after she throws up.
1:58:18
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, that that was awesome.
1:58:20
SPEAKER_02: You guys go to a lot of shows?
1:58:22
SPEAKER_02: What's the last concerts you guys been to?
1:58:24
SPEAKER_04: Um last one we went to was um Rob Zombie.
1:58:29
SPEAKER_00: Where was that at?
1:58:30
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, up in Denver.
1:58:32
SPEAKER_04: Um, who else played Mark?
1:58:33
SPEAKER_04: It was what was Zombie Manson and Zombie Manson and the Who.
1:58:38
SPEAKER_04: It was my first time seeing the Who?
1:58:40
SPEAKER_04: It's um H U.
1:58:43
SPEAKER_04: Oh.
1:58:43
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:58:44
SPEAKER_04: Who?
1:58:44
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:58:45
SPEAKER_06: I think they're um Mongolian.
1:58:47
SPEAKER_06: Mongolian, man.
1:58:48
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
1:58:48
SPEAKER_06: Oh my gosh.
1:58:49
SPEAKER_04: It was so cool just to see what they were doing, like, and everything.
1:58:53
SPEAKER_04: They just have such a different sound.
1:58:56
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:58:56
SPEAKER_04: They even played um, they even covered them, was it a Metallica song?
1:58:59
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, they covered it.
1:59:00
SPEAKER_04: And their language and then Mongolian and stuff like that.
1:59:03
SPEAKER_04: Oh true, yeah.
1:59:03
SPEAKER_04: It was H-O-O?
1:59:06
SPEAKER_04: H-U?
1:59:07
SPEAKER_04: H-U?
1:59:08
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, like who.
1:59:09
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
1:59:10
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:59:10
SPEAKER_04: I I kind of freaked out too.
1:59:12
SPEAKER_04: I was like, the who's gonna be there?
1:59:13
SPEAKER_04: But when you said that, just like the who?
1:59:16
SPEAKER_01: You're still around?
1:59:17
SPEAKER_04: What the fuck?
1:59:18
SPEAKER_04: That was a very fun show, too.
1:59:19
SPEAKER_04: Um, uh a fun fact about that.
1:59:22
SPEAKER_04: Um, my first concert uh was Rob Zombie.
1:59:25
SPEAKER_04: That's close to when I was like five or six.
1:59:27
SPEAKER_04: Dang.
1:59:28
SPEAKER_04: And it's kind of cool because my daughter's five right now, and we took her to that show to go see Rob Zombie.
1:59:33
SPEAKER_04: So she was about five years old when she saw Zombie too.
1:59:36
SPEAKER_04: So that's awesome.
1:59:37
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I was like history, history's repeating itself in generation.
1:59:43
SPEAKER_04: But yeah, we love taking my little daughter to shows.
1:59:46
SPEAKER_04: She she loves to come to shows.
1:59:48
SPEAKER_04: She's she's always wanting to come to our shows, like to support me and her her favorite person over there.
1:59:55
SPEAKER_02: Her favorite person, Travis.
1:59:57
SPEAKER_04: Oh no, Mark.
1:59:58
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, Mark.
1:59:59
SPEAKER_03: So it's crazy when he first joined the band, it's like five or six in the morning, and he's on his phone doing a video call, and I'm like, just glance over, you know.
2:00:10
SPEAKER_03: He's dropping in, it's it's his niece.
2:00:12
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:00:12
SPEAKER_03: It's always his his niece or you know, his daughter, and I'm like, oh that's cool.
2:00:17
SPEAKER_03: You know, love that.
2:00:18
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, she's a little metalhead at heart.
2:00:22
SPEAKER_04: What do you think are her favorite bands?
2:00:23
SPEAKER_04: Uh her favorite band is actually um she's she really likes the song Prison by System of a Down.
2:00:30
SPEAKER_04: Prison song?
2:00:31
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, she sings it.
2:00:32
SPEAKER_04: She does it.
2:00:33
SPEAKER_04: She sings it, and I'm like, that's the only way, that's the only way you can cuss if you're singing a song.
2:00:38
SPEAKER_04: Like, and then another one of her favorite bands when she was a little baby.
2:00:41
SPEAKER_04: I listened to them all the time, so but was uh Necrogoblicon.
2:00:45
SPEAKER_04: Necro Goblin.
2:00:46
SPEAKER_04: They're gonna be in Albuquerque tomorrow.
2:00:48
SPEAKER_04: I wanted to take her so bad, but we have a show in Gallup.
2:00:51
SPEAKER_04: So But yeah, she really she really likes Necro Goblin, she likes System of a Down.
2:00:56
SPEAKER_04: Um, she really got into the their rhythmics, the sweet dreams.
2:01:02
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, she loves that song, and when Manson played it, she yeah, she was just stuck on it.
2:01:08
SPEAKER_04: That's her favorite song.
2:01:10
SPEAKER_04: She loved to hear it.
2:01:11
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's how we all did it, isn't it?
2:01:13
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
2:01:14
SPEAKER_04: Holy shit.
2:01:15
SPEAKER_04: So yeah, it's cool.
2:01:16
SPEAKER_04: She really grew up, you know.
2:01:18
SPEAKER_04: Me and her mom listened to metal and all of that, so she grew up around it.
2:01:22
SPEAKER_04: It's just really cool to see the kind of music she likes when she's growing up and stuff like that.
2:01:28
SPEAKER_04: She likes all kinds of music.
2:01:29
SPEAKER_04: Like, I forgot.
2:01:31
SPEAKER_04: Um we were at a show and she was just really vibing to someone.
2:01:36
SPEAKER_04: I don't remember, and I was just like, damn, you know, you really like anything.
2:01:41
SPEAKER_04: But yeah, so she she's really into music, and we love that, you know.
2:01:47
SPEAKER_04: I don't like to go to concerts anymore, but I'm like, as you get older, if you want to go, I'll take you, you know.
2:01:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, you need that experience.
2:01:54
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so another band that I really want to see that I haven't seen yet is the Smashing Pumpkins.
2:02:03
SPEAKER_02: When when can you ever see them?
2:02:05
SPEAKER_02: I think they last time I saw them was like or I didn't see them when I saw them playing was like 2015 at the Red Rocks.
2:02:12
SPEAKER_02: Dang.
2:02:12
SPEAKER_02: And I was like, when can you ever see them?
2:02:14
SPEAKER_04: Billy Corgan?
2:02:15
SPEAKER_04: Mark's Mark said they're gonna be in Denver at the end of the month.
2:02:19
SPEAKER_06: See Denver, Red Rock is in Denver.
2:02:21
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah.
2:02:21
SPEAKER_06: I think it's gonna be at Ball Arena.
2:02:23
SPEAKER_06: When I saw that, I'm like, oh, do I go back two days earlier?
2:02:28
SPEAKER_06: It's tempting, you know.
2:02:29
SPEAKER_02: I'd love to see the Smashing Pumpkins.
2:02:31
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I I I absolutely love that band.
2:02:33
SPEAKER_04: That's another band that I listened to a lot when my daughter was in her mom's stomach.
2:02:37
SPEAKER_04: So and funny story, we when when when her when her mom was pregnant with her, we took her to we went to punk in the park.
2:02:47
SPEAKER_04: So while she was in there, she uh did all the punk all the punk music.
2:02:53
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so yeah.
2:02:54
SPEAKER_04: It was so cool to go to that, like because one of my favorite punk bands is Pennywise.
2:02:58
SPEAKER_04: Okay, you know.
2:02:59
SPEAKER_04: They they played like I I was in the circle pit, I just freaking I was a little kid in there, you know.
2:03:05
SPEAKER_04: It's just like hell yeah, this is cool, you know?
2:03:10
SPEAKER_04: But yeah, it's it's cool to uh you know, show her a bunch of different music and just let her grow into it too.
2:03:18
SPEAKER_04: So yeah.
2:03:20
SPEAKER_02: Smashing pump because it will take me back.
2:03:23
SPEAKER_02: I mean, ninth grade, sitting on the bus, coil my tongue around a bumblebee mouth, you know.
2:03:30
SPEAKER_02: Ah God, you know, yeah.
2:03:33
SPEAKER_04: I absolutely love his voice.
2:03:34
SPEAKER_04: Like people say he's not really a good person, but I'm just like I like his music.
2:03:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I don't know much about him as a person, but yeah, like you said, uh you love his music, you love what he created.
2:03:47
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, definitely.
2:03:48
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but he just has a different, distinct voice.
2:03:52
SPEAKER_04: It's it's just awesome.
2:03:53
SPEAKER_04: I love his voice.
2:03:54
SPEAKER_02: He has his own podcast too.
2:03:56
SPEAKER_02: Have you seen that?
2:03:56
SPEAKER_02: No, I have not.
2:03:57
SPEAKER_02: I don't know what it's called.
2:03:59
SPEAKER_02: He had he had Corey Feldman on there just recently.
2:04:02
SPEAKER_02: Oh, really?
2:04:02
SPEAKER_02: Cory Feldman was dropping all kinds of shullshit.
2:04:05
SPEAKER_02: And I'm just like, ah, I said the same thing.
2:04:07
SPEAKER_02: Bullshit, you know.
2:04:09
SPEAKER_02: Fuck you, Corey Feldman.
2:04:10
SPEAKER_02: And even, even freaking, what's his name?
2:04:12
SPEAKER_02: Billy Corgan was sitting there like, oh yeah, and then what happened?
2:04:16
SPEAKER_02: You know, you just watch the videos, you read him himself.
2:04:18
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, he has his own podcast.
2:04:20
SPEAKER_02: I haven't really sat and listened to it, but yeah, I've been a big fan of him for a long time.
2:04:26
SPEAKER_02: His writing process.
2:04:27
SPEAKER_02: I gotta definitely check out that podcast.
2:04:29
SPEAKER_02: Look it up.
2:04:30
SPEAKER_02: I don't even know what the name is.
2:04:31
SPEAKER_04: A lot of podcasts that I'm really into are like paranormal stuff.
2:04:35
SPEAKER_04: I love those aliens and mostly aliens.
2:04:38
SPEAKER_04: Like I love the UFO shit.
2:04:39
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, the unknown.
2:04:41
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, sometimes it's just cool to listen to other people's stories from different states or from Canada.
2:04:47
SPEAKER_04: Even from here.
2:04:48
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, definitely most definitely.
2:04:50
SPEAKER_02: Some of those went on Netflix, Unsolved Mysteries.
2:04:54
SPEAKER_02: Unsolved Mysteries.
2:04:55
SPEAKER_02: There are right there in Waterflow.
2:04:57
SPEAKER_02: They talk about Bigfoot, they talk about aliens, they talk about it's called the Force or whatever it's called, the Navajo Nation something force.
2:05:05
SPEAKER_02: Secret Force that go go alien mysteries and all that.
2:05:09
SPEAKER_02: It's like, holy shit.
2:05:10
SPEAKER_02: I didn't know that was around.
2:05:12
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
2:05:12
SPEAKER_02: Nobody knows.
2:05:13
SPEAKER_04: I've listened to podcasts from Albuquerque.
2:05:17
SPEAKER_04: Um I don't know the lady's name, um, but she she talks about aliens and she just I don't know, it's it's just it's just really weird to hear her talk about that kind of stuff.
2:05:30
SPEAKER_04: Like because it's just in Albuquerque.
2:05:33
SPEAKER_04: She said that there's some aliens that live under the Sandia Mountains.
2:05:37
SPEAKER_04: They that's where they are, they're in the Sandia Mountains.
2:05:40
SPEAKER_08: Wow, I've never heard that one.
2:05:42
SPEAKER_04: And it's crazy because she's gone to like talk with them a lot more, and I don't know.
2:05:48
SPEAKER_04: It's just really weird.
2:05:50
SPEAKER_04: The people or the aliens.
2:05:51
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
2:05:51
SPEAKER_04: They they make contact with the aliens.
2:05:54
SPEAKER_04: Oh shit.
2:05:54
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, she just kind of explains how they are.
2:05:57
SPEAKER_04: You know, they're real cautious.
2:05:58
SPEAKER_04: You know, she says they really watch the humans, you know, they're really interested in the things they do, you know, and stuff like that.
2:06:07
SPEAKER_04: And it's just it was just a it's just a lot to take in right there.
2:06:10
SPEAKER_04: Like when I first heard that there's aliens under the fucking Sandia Mountains.
2:06:14
SPEAKER_02: That's that's what my theory always was.
2:06:16
SPEAKER_02: Well, my brother put me on the theory of aliens.
2:06:19
SPEAKER_02: Aliens are just us in the future.
2:06:21
SPEAKER_02: Well, not us, but the human race in the future.
2:06:25
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so like the world is slowly ending it turns to fire, and a good maybe couple thousands, maybe two, three thousand people take off to Earth, leave Earth, and then they find Earth too.
2:06:40
SPEAKER_02: Those Earths that are around in the universe, like Kelper or something, 125 or whatever.
2:06:45
SPEAKER_02: They go out there and they're like, hey, life is sustainable up here.
2:06:50
SPEAKER_02: And we humans look just like now.
2:06:52
SPEAKER_02: We go over there, we stay there, we stay on the planet Earth, and then we eventually start like living, building our universe.
2:07:00
SPEAKER_02: And we don't know we're breathing in the sand, the soil, we're breathing in, we're eating the vegetables, we're growing stuff.
2:07:06
SPEAKER_02: We don't see, you know, how normally you hang out with your best friend every single day.
2:07:10
SPEAKER_02: You don't even tell when they get chubby.
2:07:12
SPEAKER_02: They're like, Oh yeah, they're eating.
2:07:13
SPEAKER_02: Then you're like, look at this picture from last year.
2:07:16
SPEAKER_01: Dang, you were all skinny.
2:07:17
SPEAKER_02: What the fuck?
2:07:18
SPEAKER_02: We don't fucking see when they get chubby.
2:07:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we just hang out with them just like everyone else.
2:07:23
SPEAKER_02: And then as we move to that planet, we do not know that we are changing.
2:07:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, our eyes are just a little bigger, just a little bigger, heads are getting bigger, and maybe they came up to the thing to end starvation.
2:07:36
SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
2:07:37
SPEAKER_02: To where we don't need a liver, we don't need a stomach, we don't need all this to survive, and then we just get thinner.
2:07:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we don't see it's going over time, and we evolve from that maybe 50, 60, 70 years, but maybe their race, our human race, is dying on that planet.
2:07:55
SPEAKER_02: So they're like, hey, we've created time travel.
2:07:58
SPEAKER_02: Let's fucking go back to oh, let's see, it's 20, no, maybe it's 30, 56 the year, and they're like, let's jump back to I don't know, 1952.
2:08:09
SPEAKER_02: What do we see now?
2:08:10
SPEAKER_02: Aliens on Earth, 1935.
2:08:16
SPEAKER_02: There's an alien ship random, and people are like, What's your say, watch that?
2:08:19
SPEAKER_02: And they're just like, I don't know.
2:08:21
SPEAKER_02: Why was that in 1935 and not now?
2:08:24
SPEAKER_02: You know?
2:08:25
SPEAKER_02: They went back to 1935 to see how people were living.
2:08:28
SPEAKER_02: What did we why did we need a liver?
2:08:30
SPEAKER_02: Why did we need a heart?
2:08:32
SPEAKER_02: And they kidnap people, they abduct them.
2:08:35
SPEAKER_02: Cut them open and look at their liver.
2:08:38
SPEAKER_02: What was the purpose of a liver again?
2:08:40
SPEAKER_02: And they're studying us.
2:08:42
SPEAKER_04: I've heard I've heard a story of a dude had um knee problems.
2:08:45
SPEAKER_04: Like he had bad knee problems, and um I think he said he got abducted one night.
2:08:52
SPEAKER_04: They he said he just could see, you know, just white room.
2:08:56
SPEAKER_04: And then he could say he couldn't move or anything, you know.
2:08:58
SPEAKER_04: He was there's aliens around him, and I don't know if they did like operation on his knee or something like that, but they totally fixed whatever was wrong.
2:09:08
SPEAKER_04: That's what he was saying.
2:09:09
SPEAKER_04: They said when he came back, like it felt like he had a brand new knee, you know.
2:09:14
SPEAKER_04: You you didn't even see any cut lines or anything like that.
2:09:17
SPEAKER_02: See, and that could be them practicing.
2:09:19
SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
2:09:20
SPEAKER_02: They're like, oh, we like we don't we don't even have like cartilage, we just our bones have evolved.
2:09:26
SPEAKER_02: So, like, let's go see what we can do.
2:09:28
SPEAKER_02: Wait, take somebody who has a bad knee and get a good knee and be like, we can do this.
2:09:32
SPEAKER_02: Oh, this is easy if they've advanced that far into it.
2:09:35
SPEAKER_04: I heard that a really big thing, like why they always come back to Earth is our water.
2:09:41
SPEAKER_04: Just the water.
2:09:42
SPEAKER_04: I think you know, they really do go under there, and you know, we don't explore the ocean or anything like, you know, we're too scared to go.
2:09:52
SPEAKER_04: I would I would be more scared to go into ocean to go to space.
2:09:55
SPEAKER_02: Like I mean, I'm kind of right there with you.
2:09:58
SPEAKER_02: Like, yeah.
2:09:59
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and they're just really interested in, like, like you said, the things we do, you know, farmers, we grow our own stuff.
2:10:04
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, like what kind of soil animals and the food we cook and stuff like that.
2:10:08
SPEAKER_02: Like they say they kidnap cows to look at their meat, to look at their DNA and all that.
2:10:13
SPEAKER_02: Maybe we don't have cows, maybe we don't have hamburgers, maybe we don't have steak.
2:10:17
SPEAKER_04: One lady even said that, you know, like how we have checkpoints here.
2:10:21
SPEAKER_04: They she said that they they literally have checkpoints like coming into earth, like they watch who comes into because there's different types of species of aliens, you know, not all are good.
2:10:32
SPEAKER_04: I believe that.
2:10:32
SPEAKER_04: Not all are good.
2:10:33
SPEAKER_04: So, you know, the ones that study us and are really intrigued with us, they have like a little checkpoint station, like, you know, what's your business coming here, blah, blah, blah.
2:10:43
SPEAKER_02: To make sure nobody's fucking around.
2:10:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they I believe that too.
2:10:46
SPEAKER_04: They don't want, they don't want they don't want bad on us.
2:10:50
SPEAKER_04: Like, if you're coming here to mess with us or to do something bad, they send you on their way.
2:10:55
SPEAKER_02: Like, yo, I guarantee you there is aliens out there who are punk ass little broccoli head teenagers who don't give a fuck.
2:11:02
SPEAKER_02: And they're like, hey, look, we got some moon juice.
2:11:06
SPEAKER_02: Let's go jump in my uncle's space car.
2:11:09
SPEAKER_02: We can jump back.
2:11:09
SPEAKER_02: We'll be right back in no time.
2:11:11
SPEAKER_02: Let's go drive.
2:11:12
SPEAKER_02: And they take off, and then it's like, shh, somebody just flew by, and it's just them having the best time.
2:11:18
SPEAKER_02: Or the Air Force is like flying, shh, and there's like aliens going by, and they're like, We caught these aliens, but they're just having the time of their life, you know.
2:11:26
SPEAKER_02: Well, let's go back home.
2:11:27
SPEAKER_02: Fuck it.
2:11:28
SPEAKER_02: I don't want to get in trouble.
2:11:29
SPEAKER_02: Nobody can un UFO.
2:11:32
SPEAKER_02: What is that?
2:11:32
SPEAKER_02: Unidentified flying object.
2:11:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:11:35
SPEAKER_02: Like, why were you guys here?
2:11:36
SPEAKER_02: You guys are fucking around over here.
2:11:37
SPEAKER_02: You guys shouldn't be here.
2:11:38
SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
2:11:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:11:40
SPEAKER_02: They're and we don't even know.
2:11:41
SPEAKER_02: They're just probably little punk ass teenagers fucking around.
2:11:44
SPEAKER_04: They're they want to be our friends, basically.
2:11:47
SPEAKER_04: I think that too.
2:11:49
SPEAKER_04: They don't want to scare us at all.
2:11:51
SPEAKER_04: This is what this one lady said.
2:11:52
SPEAKER_04: They don't want to scare us at all.
2:11:54
SPEAKER_04: So if you're like confident enough and not scared to make contact, they will.
2:12:00
SPEAKER_04: Make contact with you because they don't want you, they don't, you know, they can tell that you're scared, they can sense your fear and everything.
2:12:07
SPEAKER_04: So if they sent that, if they sense that, they don't want to come scare you even more.
2:12:13
SPEAKER_04: You gotta like you gotta really wrap your head around and be like, Yeah, I was gonna say that's a lot to do.
2:12:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so like what what would you guys do if you legit saw a fucking alien?
2:12:24
SPEAKER_04: And it's crazy because I've seen a UFO really, yeah.
2:12:28
SPEAKER_03: Like I swear, I swear.
2:12:30
SPEAKER_03: This was maybe I don't know, 90s 94, 95.
2:12:36
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:12:36
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we were it was my uncle, my cousin, and I.
2:12:39
SPEAKER_03: We were going to Fort Defiance to pick up some fencing.
2:12:43
SPEAKER_03: And my cousin, you know, he was sitting on the on the passenger side.
2:12:47
SPEAKER_03: I was sitting like this, and he was hat he had his arm out the window and he was, you know, breathing in there, and just out of nowhere.
2:12:54
SPEAKER_03: He's like, Oh, look, and I knew uh a flying saucer.
2:12:58
SPEAKER_03: Just like that.
2:12:59
SPEAKER_03: You know, he said it like that.
2:13:00
SPEAKER_03: It wasn't like, oh shit, you know, a flying saucer, a UFO.
2:13:02
SPEAKER_03: And I was like, What?
2:13:04
SPEAKER_03: We both look out and we see a disc gliding across.
2:13:08
SPEAKER_03: Like it was literally probably like you know, how those little Cessnas, those little airplanes, yeah.
2:13:12
SPEAKER_03: It was like that high up, and it was gliding across.
2:13:15
SPEAKER_07: And where was this at?
2:13:16
SPEAKER_03: Like right where I live.
2:13:18
SPEAKER_03: Did it did it look smooth, like there was no seams in it or anything?
2:13:22
SPEAKER_03: All I saw was a round object and lights around it.
2:13:25
SPEAKER_03: That's all I saw.
2:13:26
SPEAKER_03: All right, like I legit, seriously, on on my life.
2:13:30
SPEAKER_03: Like, I I believe you did.
2:13:31
SPEAKER_03: That shit was crazy to see, you know, but now I look back on it, I'm like, why wasn't I more holy shit, you know, a fucking UFO and just freaking the fuck out.
2:13:42
SPEAKER_03: But we were just oh a UFO.
2:13:45
SPEAKER_03: It was weird, it was just fucking weird.
2:13:47
SPEAKER_02: So now that you say how calm you were, I have seen something too.
2:13:51
SPEAKER_02: Um, I think I was 16, maybe still in high school, and um, I was in Shiprock at my mom's house, and it was probably like two in the morning.
2:14:04
SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah, I was 16 because we had a sweet 16.
2:14:08
SPEAKER_02: It was my birthday, and like all my buddies came over and they stayed in my house.
2:14:13
SPEAKER_02: It wasn't my house, but we were moving out of a trailer.
2:14:16
SPEAKER_02: We had a single wide, yeah, and my mom said, You guys can have your birthday in there, all your buddies can hang out in there.
2:14:21
SPEAKER_02: I was like, Okay.
2:14:22
SPEAKER_02: It was 2 30 in the morning, and we were out and about, just like in the yard, walking around, and then a perfect triangle, it was orange, it popped up in the sky.
2:14:35
SPEAKER_02: And we're like, Do you guys see this?
2:14:36
SPEAKER_02: And everyone was just standing like, whoa, and we were just like in awe.
2:14:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, a perfect triangle, and it was orange, like I kid you not.
2:14:45
SPEAKER_02: Like, see that light bulb right there, that orange?
2:14:47
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, just like that, boom, and it was a triangle, and we're just like, whoa, and then it just went and it was gone.
2:14:55
SPEAKER_02: That's crazy.
2:14:56
SPEAKER_02: Like, we didn't have cell phones back then.
2:14:58
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's a weird thing, like you couldn't take the photo, you couldn't see anything, but it's like dude, that brings back a time where I saw something pretty crazy too.
2:15:07
SPEAKER_04: Where we were at home, I was with my daughter's mom, and we went outside on the porch just to smoke, you know, just to kind of relax after that.
2:15:15
SPEAKER_04: And it was so weird because all of a sudden she looked in the sky and she was just like, What is that?
2:15:22
SPEAKER_04: And I shit you not, like you couldn't see anything unless you really looked.
2:15:26
SPEAKER_04: It was like this huge black silhouette just going across the sky, like it even covered the stars and everything.
2:15:35
SPEAKER_04: Like it was it was huge, like bigger than probably like 30 football fields or something like that.
2:15:40
SPEAKER_04: Like, whoa, it was just like the hugest silhouette just going across the sky, and I was just like, you know what?
2:15:47
SPEAKER_04: I think I'm sober now.
2:15:48
SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna go back inside.
2:15:49
SPEAKER_04: Like, like shit, man.
2:15:52
SPEAKER_04: Like, what did I just see?
2:15:53
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it was it was crazy.
2:15:56
SPEAKER_04: Like, I I can't explain how big it was.
2:15:58
SPEAKER_03: Like, yeah, that was Mark and I at the the festival at uh in Shiprock, you know.
2:16:04
SPEAKER_03: He was like, Look at it, we're looking in the sky, and you could see like lights going back and forth and then disappear.
2:16:11
SPEAKER_03: And he was like, Yeah, me and you know, he said him and his girlfriend were sitting outside and they were saying they saw lights here and there, and it was always in the the west.
2:16:20
SPEAKER_06: It's like almost like near the mountains near uh Baklaboteau in that area.
2:16:25
SPEAKER_06: Oh, okay.
2:16:25
SPEAKER_06: So my girlfriend sent me a video the other day.
2:16:30
SPEAKER_06: This was like probably a little bit before Shiprock Fair and everything.
2:16:34
SPEAKER_06: She went down to her parents, she sent me this video.
2:16:38
SPEAKER_06: Um this light in the sky.
2:16:41
SPEAKER_06: You know, it got bright, and there was like these other little lights around it, like just going around and disappearing and all this shit.
2:16:49
SPEAKER_06: And it went and it went along for a while.
2:16:52
SPEAKER_06: Then I was telling my sister about it because her boyfriend's parents live out in Shiprock too, and they're like, Oh yeah, we see those all the time in the sky.
2:17:01
SPEAKER_06: And it's like it's normal.
2:17:03
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, it's it's it's weird.
2:17:05
SPEAKER_06: I mean, when I see shit like that, I'm like, oh shit, like pause.
2:17:09
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, and I'm like getting trying to get video and everything, then like all these like UFO abductions I watch, and I'm like, I shouldn't be taking pictures, I shouldn't be doing this and all this.
2:17:20
SPEAKER_06: They're gonna see it.
2:17:21
SPEAKER_01: They're gonna be gonna believe me.
2:17:24
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I always think that too.
2:17:26
SPEAKER_04: Like, I want to take a picture, but I'm like, they're gonna know I'm taking a picture.
2:17:30
SPEAKER_04: Right?
2:17:30
SPEAKER_04: They're gonna visit me later.
2:17:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, uh, they're gonna take that picture.
2:17:34
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
2:17:36
SPEAKER_02: I always heard that.
2:17:37
SPEAKER_02: Um, the first one I heard was um Dulcie.
2:17:40
SPEAKER_02: Did you hear about Dulce?
2:17:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, a whole ass station under Dulce.
2:17:45
SPEAKER_02: They call them the Grays.
2:17:46
SPEAKER_03: Mm-hmm.
2:17:47
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
2:17:47
SPEAKER_03: Ah, that's I met a guy at the flea market.
2:17:49
SPEAKER_03: I think it was here.
2:17:50
SPEAKER_03: Either, yeah, I was in Shiprock, and he was talking about he had a whole setup, he had pendants with uh aliens on it, and he had a uh uh a picture book, you know, a photo, you know, a picture book, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah.
2:18:05
SPEAKER_03: And it was just random pictures of like disc, you know.
2:18:08
SPEAKER_03: It was kind of you know, I was kind of skeptical on it, but you know, the more he talked, it made sense.
2:18:13
SPEAKER_03: But I told him that story, he was like, No, I believe you, but he was like, always carry your camera on, always carry your camera in.
2:18:20
SPEAKER_03: But you know, it's it's crazy, you know, to take that much time and just be outside and looking at the sky.
2:18:25
SPEAKER_03: It's it's insane.
2:18:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you really gotta pay attention if you're out there.
2:18:30
SPEAKER_02: I um my girl and my family all stayed at my mom's farm down in Shiprock, and it's down farm roads.
2:18:38
SPEAKER_02: And it's been a minute since I got to see the sky, so we're just looking at the stars, you know, it's dark.
2:18:43
SPEAKER_02: Like right now, you can kind of see the stars.
2:18:45
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna use the restaurant.
2:18:46
SPEAKER_02: Oh, go ahead.
2:18:46
SPEAKER_02: And like you can kind of see the stars and everything.
2:18:49
SPEAKER_02: But when we went out there, it was just full of stars, and you could see all kinds of stuff.
2:18:56
SPEAKER_02: And I I tell myself, like, I want to see something.
2:18:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but you just see an airplane, you know it's an airplane.
2:19:01
SPEAKER_04: You're like, come on.
2:19:03
SPEAKER_04: I've I always feel the same way.
2:19:05
SPEAKER_04: Like, I want to see something, but do I really, you know, sometimes what if I do?
2:19:10
SPEAKER_04: Then what another cool thing that I learned about aliens is they're in cahoots with Bigfoot.
2:19:16
SPEAKER_01: I heard that too.
2:19:18
SPEAKER_01: That that that was on the Netflix thing, wasn't it?
2:19:20
SPEAKER_04: Did you did you watch that?
2:19:21
SPEAKER_04: I don't think I watched that.
2:19:22
SPEAKER_04: I got it off of a podcast, but the way the lady was talking about it, she's that's why you don't that's why you don't see them a lot.
2:19:30
SPEAKER_04: She said that the aliens can take the Bigfoots to a different planet because their body can withstand that.
2:19:36
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and they just walk right into that orb.
2:19:38
SPEAKER_04: Like that's why their footprints just end.
2:19:40
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, most definitely, most definitely.
2:19:43
SPEAKER_04: What?
2:19:44
SPEAKER_04: So that was the most interesting thing that I heard.
2:19:46
SPEAKER_04: I was like, you know, that's why we don't ever fucking see them, and that's probably why we see one foot all the time.
2:19:52
SPEAKER_02: Like that was it on um the Netflix show Unsolved Mysteries.
2:19:56
SPEAKER_02: I think it's on like season one or season two, episode maybe five or six.
2:20:00
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
2:20:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's right there, just just in our town.
2:20:03
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, heck yeah.
2:20:05
SPEAKER_02: And they're like our sheep were getting ripped apart, the fences were getting pulled down, there's these big like footprints, and then it just ends.
2:20:14
SPEAKER_02: And like, could aliens just be screwed up or there's just like a hole, like Dr.
2:20:19
SPEAKER_02: Doctor Strange?
2:20:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, is that what it was?
2:20:22
SPEAKER_02: That's Doctor Strange, right?
2:20:23
SPEAKER_06: Doctor Strange opens the little portal, just walks it's like, oh gosh.
2:20:29
SPEAKER_04: And the only way aliens speak is telepathically, too.
2:20:33
SPEAKER_04: So that's how that's how you would hear them in your head.
2:20:36
SPEAKER_02: Um, uh that explains uh uh Pennywise from it.
2:20:41
SPEAKER_02: People say he, oh, he's a demon.
2:20:42
SPEAKER_02: No, he's not, he's an alien.
2:20:44
SPEAKER_02: Have you seen Dreamcatcher?
2:20:46
SPEAKER_02: Um long time ago.
2:20:48
SPEAKER_02: Watch Dreamcatcher.
2:20:50
SPEAKER_02: The alien in Dreamcatcher is Pennywise.
2:20:52
SPEAKER_02: He calls himself Mr.
2:20:53
SPEAKER_02: Gray.
2:20:53
SPEAKER_02: And he talks like, Hello, hello, hello.
2:20:56
SPEAKER_02: He just adapts to people's head and he's all silly and he turns his, he gets really big, and he has that big teeth.
2:21:04
SPEAKER_02: He could swallow you and rip you in half.
2:21:06
SPEAKER_02: That's how he ate Georgie's arm.
2:21:08
SPEAKER_02: But he is an alien, and then when he shows up, he stands in front of the guy and his face, he doesn't have a face, it's just like stars like galaxy right here.
2:21:17
SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
2:21:17
SPEAKER_02: He has no mouth, and he says, Hello.
2:21:20
SPEAKER_00: He's like, What are you doing in my head?
2:21:22
SPEAKER_00: What are you doing in my head?
2:21:24
unknown: I am here.
2:21:26
SPEAKER_02: Like that.
2:21:26
SPEAKER_02: That's like how he's talking.
2:21:28
SPEAKER_02: Oh, it's so fucking rowdy.
2:21:30
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
2:21:30
SPEAKER_04: That would be rowdy, just to experience that, like, hear a voice in your head.
2:21:34
SPEAKER_04: Like, yeah, see, see, that's when they tell you, be not afraid.
2:21:38
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
2:21:39
SPEAKER_02: And you're just like, Oh, Streck! I'm looking down, you know?
2:21:44
SPEAKER_02: It's like, fuck, dude.
2:21:45
SPEAKER_02: Like, how am I not supposed to be afraid?
2:21:47
SPEAKER_02: And then then you say they don't want to talk to us if we're afraid of them, you know?
2:21:52
SPEAKER_02: It's like, God, and I I don't know.
2:21:54
SPEAKER_04: They're just really intrigued with the humans.
2:21:56
SPEAKER_04: That's the thing.
2:21:57
SPEAKER_04: They want to learn a lot of things off of us and how we do things compared to them.
2:22:02
SPEAKER_04: So I don't know.
2:22:03
SPEAKER_04: I find all of that stuff just really interesting.
2:22:06
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
2:22:06
SPEAKER_04: There's other really other worlds out there that are sustainable and stuff like that.
2:22:11
SPEAKER_04: But real for them, I guess.
2:22:12
SPEAKER_02: Like we can't be the only ones alone.
2:22:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:22:15
SPEAKER_02: I mean, look at the universe.
2:22:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, most definitely.
2:22:18
SPEAKER_02: Look at all the planets, look at everything.
2:22:20
SPEAKER_02: And it's so weird that we sustained life on Earth.
2:22:23
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, right?
2:22:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:22:24
SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
2:22:25
SPEAKER_02: They they you can go on um TikTok and type in um other planet simulation.
2:22:34
SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
2:22:34
SPEAKER_02: And it says, this is what would happen if you land on Jupiter.
2:22:37
SPEAKER_02: Okay, yeah, it goes a feet, and then it just goes into your eyes.
2:22:42
SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
2:22:42
SPEAKER_02: Then it says it tells you everything that would fucking happen if you land on a different planet.
2:22:47
SPEAKER_01: That's some weird, crazy shit.
2:22:50
SPEAKER_02: Or it just says if we just kept going out and it we get out of the Milky Way, which is our universe, yeah, and just keeps going, going in, it's just like a black warp.
2:22:58
SPEAKER_02: Like, what the fuck is even out there?
2:23:01
SPEAKER_04: I've probably seen a lot of videos like that while I was high, and I'm like, I never came down.
2:23:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, dude, that's some really trippy shit.
2:23:13
SPEAKER_02: That's some stuff I I I fall asleep too.
2:23:15
SPEAKER_02: Like, I push play on TikTok and I put it on my chest, and I fall asleep too.
2:23:20
SPEAKER_02: I'm listening to it, listening to it, imagining, and I'm just going in a different freaking world.
2:23:24
SPEAKER_02: Like, there are other planets out there that probably still have dinosaurs.
2:23:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, most definitely.
2:23:29
SPEAKER_02: That's probably why we can't go to those planets.
2:23:31
SPEAKER_02: Like, what are we even gonna do?
2:23:33
SPEAKER_01: What would you do if you saw a dinosaur?
2:23:36
unknown: Like, what?
2:23:38
SPEAKER_06: That would be yeah, I would be scared because depending on what type of dinosaur actually the little ones are okay, but the big ones.
2:23:48
SPEAKER_02: Are you even sure the little ones are okay?
2:23:50
SPEAKER_03: The raptors, the raptors are okay.
2:23:52
SPEAKER_02: How many little ones?
2:23:53
SPEAKER_04: You're right.
2:23:54
SPEAKER_02: These all the compies in Lost World.
2:23:56
SPEAKER_02: How many little ones are real?
2:24:02
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, yeah, they were saying that about um um not Star Wars, um, Jurassic Park.
2:24:09
SPEAKER_02: Like they didn't get the dinosaurs correctly.
2:24:12
SPEAKER_02: And like when if you sit there and see a T-Rex in real life, you know, he said, stand still and he'll lose you.
2:24:19
SPEAKER_02: But that's not the truth.
2:24:20
SPEAKER_02: He'll hunt you down no matter what.
2:24:22
SPEAKER_02: And they're just giant birds.
2:24:23
SPEAKER_02: All the dinosaurs were birds.
2:24:25
SPEAKER_02: We still have dinosaurs, chickens, chickens are dinosaurs.
2:24:27
SPEAKER_04: I was gonna say that too.
2:24:28
SPEAKER_04: Like, yeah, chickens are dinosaurs.
2:24:31
SPEAKER_02: Dude, if you really look at them, they are fucking dinosaurs.
2:24:35
SPEAKER_02: It's nuts.
2:24:37
SPEAKER_02: I think they are, they just didn't evolve into that.
2:24:41
SPEAKER_02: Or those freaking kimono dragons.
2:24:43
SPEAKER_02: Have you seen those?
2:24:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:24:44
SPEAKER_02: You ever seen those sick videos where they break a lamb's legs and they just lay him there into kimono dragons?
2:24:49
SPEAKER_02: Like, that little lamb just fucking gets eaten.
2:24:54
SPEAKER_01: It's like, holy shit.
2:24:56
SPEAKER_02: It's it's like, what even is they were saying um octopuses too are aliens.
2:25:04
SPEAKER_02: They just drop into it.
2:25:05
SPEAKER_02: I would believe it.
2:25:06
SPEAKER_02: What?
2:25:06
SPEAKER_02: Uh 12 hearts, eight brains.
2:25:10
SPEAKER_02: And they they can think on their own.
2:25:12
SPEAKER_02: They can if you put them in a little jar, how to get out, they can untwist the jar and then they can crawl out.
2:25:19
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
2:25:20
SPEAKER_02: They got all the arms, and they can adapt.
2:25:22
SPEAKER_02: Like, if you put them on this wall, they'll turn a black.
2:25:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and they'll even get the green and everything in there.
2:25:29
SPEAKER_02: How is that not an alien?
2:25:31
SPEAKER_02: Right?
2:25:32
SPEAKER_02: Right?
2:25:33
SPEAKER_02: Like, what the fuck?
2:25:34
SPEAKER_02: Are we overthinking aliens?
2:25:36
SPEAKER_02: Have they been with us the whole time?
2:25:38
SPEAKER_02: True.
2:25:40
SPEAKER_02: Well, we never know, too.
2:25:41
SPEAKER_02: They could they could live among us.
2:25:43
SPEAKER_02: For real.
2:25:44
SPEAKER_02: I just saw a post about the president and the lady, whoever blonde is.
2:25:48
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, yeah.
2:25:49
SPEAKER_02: Aliens have been upon us the whole time.
2:25:51
SPEAKER_02: The government's not even hiding it.
2:25:52
SPEAKER_04: What are they like saying lizard people or something like that?
2:25:54
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, reptilian.
2:25:56
SPEAKER_02: That's like, what?
2:25:57
SPEAKER_04: Someone was telling me that vampires actually actually do exist too.
2:26:01
SPEAKER_02: I believe that too.
2:26:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:26:03
SPEAKER_02: So what's her name?
2:26:04
SPEAKER_02: Blondie.
2:26:05
SPEAKER_02: My mom always told me Blondie.
2:26:07
SPEAKER_02: I think it was Blondie.
2:26:08
SPEAKER_02: Was it Blondie?
2:26:09
SPEAKER_02: Her whole band was vampires.
2:26:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:26:11
SPEAKER_02: And then they eventually turned her into a vampire.
2:26:15
SPEAKER_02: You think that's true?
2:26:17
SPEAKER_06: Could be.
2:26:18
SPEAKER_06: I I would think so.
2:26:19
SPEAKER_06: I mean, I pretty much believe in everything.
2:26:21
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
2:26:22
SPEAKER_06: It's just like Hollywood.
2:26:25
SPEAKER_06: Why would they, you know, make movies about all of this shit?
2:26:30
SPEAKER_06: It's just like where do they get all the ideas?
2:26:32
SPEAKER_06: Where do they get all the ideas?
2:26:34
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, right.
2:26:34
SPEAKER_04: How do people create people did a lot of acid back then too?
2:26:38
SPEAKER_01: So Steven Spielberg and shit, right?
2:26:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I believe that.
2:26:44
SPEAKER_02: I heard that too.
2:26:45
SPEAKER_02: Like, Steven, where did Steven Spielberg get E.T.?
2:26:49
SPEAKER_02: Where did Um what's his name?
2:26:51
SPEAKER_02: George Lucas.
2:26:52
SPEAKER_02: E.T.'s also in Star Wars too.
2:26:54
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
2:26:55
SPEAKER_02: I thought he's like a Jedi.
2:26:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:26:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that whole theory.
2:26:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he's like, he's all dressed.
2:26:59
SPEAKER_02: Um he once across Yoda.
2:27:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:27:02
SPEAKER_02: He's like, Yoda.
2:27:03
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:27:04
SPEAKER_02: That's fucking nuts.
2:27:05
SPEAKER_02: You really gotta slow down episode one to see the lick.
2:27:08
SPEAKER_02: My mic went out.
2:27:09
SPEAKER_02: Did it?
2:27:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:27:11
SPEAKER_02: I don't hear myself.
2:27:12
SPEAKER_02: I hear you.
2:27:12
SPEAKER_02: It's probably your headphone.
2:27:13
SPEAKER_02: Oh, oh, it's probably his cable right here.
2:27:15
SPEAKER_02: Look.
2:27:16
SPEAKER_02: Oh.
2:27:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, this cable's really tired.
2:27:21
SPEAKER_03: I disconnected it.
2:27:25
SPEAKER_02: You still don't hear yourself?
2:27:27
SPEAKER_03: No.
2:27:28
SPEAKER_02: I hear you.
2:27:29
SPEAKER_02: You guys hear him?
2:27:30
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I can I can hear him.
2:27:32
SPEAKER_03: Well it's just my headphones in.
2:27:34
SPEAKER_03: Oh.
2:27:35
SPEAKER_03: Something happened.
2:27:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I saw this cable again.
2:27:41
SPEAKER_02: Like really now.
2:27:48
SPEAKER_03: I hear it.
2:27:49
SPEAKER_03: I hear it now.
2:27:49
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
2:27:50
SPEAKER_03: Cool.
2:27:51
SPEAKER_03: Leave it to me to go and have a technical difficulty.
2:27:54
SPEAKER_03: No, it's good.
2:27:55
SPEAKER_03: I I practice for this stuff.
2:27:56
SPEAKER_02: Damn vocalists.
2:28:01
SPEAKER_03: It's always the vocalist.
2:28:04
SPEAKER_02: Have you guys ever had any stories like that where the show just went completely bad?
2:28:11
SPEAKER_02: I have one.
2:28:12
SPEAKER_02: Or Tribus never has bad shows.
2:28:14
SPEAKER_03: No, we we this is prior to Brandon and Mark, but yeah, there was there was a couple.
2:28:20
SPEAKER_03: I would say a couple.
2:28:22
SPEAKER_03: There was one in particular I do not want to fucking relive.
2:28:25
SPEAKER_03: I got so drunk one night, it was in Albuquerque, and I don't even remember the fucking set.
2:28:30
SPEAKER_03: Like I just remember being up there, and then next thing you know, I'm looking at I'm looking at the band members that are all sitting down.
2:28:38
SPEAKER_03: I'm like, what the hell's going on?
2:28:41
SPEAKER_03: Apparently I just went off on a ramp.
2:28:44
SPEAKER_01: Oh no!
2:28:45
SPEAKER_03: I think we played, I think we played like maybe I think the whole time we had six or seven songs.
2:28:52
SPEAKER_03: I think we only played like four.
2:28:54
SPEAKER_03: Damn.
2:28:56
SPEAKER_03: But everybody said it was good, but I then the guys were like, dude, you just started talking shit.
2:29:02
SPEAKER_03: Like just started talking random shit.
2:29:05
SPEAKER_03: But I'm like, no.
2:29:06
SPEAKER_03: Started praying for the food.
2:29:09
unknown: Pretty much.
2:29:11
SPEAKER_03: But after that, I was like, no, no more.
2:29:14
SPEAKER_03: And I think I did that once.
2:29:16
SPEAKER_03: Um I think it was Dino's.
2:29:19
SPEAKER_03: I think we played there when I had a little few too many, but I remember uh when when Pete was still in the band, he kind of looked at me like, hurry up.
2:29:27
SPEAKER_03: I'm like, oh yeah, okay.
2:29:28
SPEAKER_03: All right, let's keep going.
2:29:29
SPEAKER_03: Dino's on yeah, over here in Crotch Mace.
2:29:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I got kicked out of that bar.
2:29:36
SPEAKER_02: I told that story.
2:29:37
SPEAKER_02: Listen to Bron John Bradshaw's episode.
2:29:39
SPEAKER_02: I told it me and my girl, we got too wild, got kicked out.
2:29:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:29:43
SPEAKER_02: That's what we call the dust till dawn bar.
2:29:45
SPEAKER_02: Because it looks like from dust till dawn.
2:29:47
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
2:29:48
SPEAKER_02: The titty twister.
2:29:49
SPEAKER_02: Titty twister, hell yeah.
2:29:51
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
2:29:54
SPEAKER_02: We'll call it that now.
2:29:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, exactly.
2:29:56
SPEAKER_02: We're playing a titty twister.
2:29:57
SPEAKER_02: Everybody swear.
2:29:58
SPEAKER_02: We wanted a titty twister tonight.
2:29:59
SPEAKER_02: You know where it's at.
2:30:00
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
2:30:01
SPEAKER_03: Don't stay all night.
2:30:02
SPEAKER_03: That's one of my shows that I was just like, no, don't want to be remembered for that shit.
2:30:08
SPEAKER_02: It's just it's just funny to laugh at now, though.
2:30:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:30:11
SPEAKER_02: Look where you're at now, and you're just like, yeah, I've had some shitty shows.
2:30:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:30:15
SPEAKER_02: And you can tell people that too who are starting out.
2:30:17
SPEAKER_02: Like, dude, your show could have been worse.
2:30:20
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:30:20
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:30:21
SPEAKER_03: Don't worry about it.
2:30:22
SPEAKER_03: No.
2:30:22
SPEAKER_03: There was a couple of like maybe this is twice I played a show with a broken leg.
2:30:29
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I broke my ankle riding a motorcycle.
2:30:31
SPEAKER_03: Oh.
2:30:32
SPEAKER_03: Went a little too fast.
2:30:33
SPEAKER_03: I didn't even have a helmet.
2:30:34
SPEAKER_03: No.
2:30:35
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:30:35
SPEAKER_03: It was a dirt bike.
2:30:37
SPEAKER_03: Didn't know what I was doing and um hit a rut in sand and um flipped it.
2:30:43
SPEAKER_03: But um, I remember we were supposed to play with Hamlock um in Gallup.
2:30:47
SPEAKER_03: And I called everybody and like, dude, I mean, I broke my ankle.
2:30:51
SPEAKER_03: I don't know if we guys if you guys still want to play.
2:30:53
SPEAKER_03: And I was like, I'm gonna try to recoup and try to do my best.
2:30:57
SPEAKER_03: And this was like maybe a week prior, and I ended up doing it anyway.
2:31:02
SPEAKER_03: I got I got into it a little too much, and I started jumping around on one leg.
2:31:08
SPEAKER_03: And then after that, we were playing um, we played ship rock at the boys and girls club when it was still open.
2:31:13
SPEAKER_03: Holy shit.
2:31:14
SPEAKER_03: What the fuck, dude?
2:31:16
SPEAKER_02: I've been going there a long time ago.
2:31:18
SPEAKER_03: And um I had crutches, and the guys were like, Don't do that shit you did the last time.
2:31:23
SPEAKER_03: Just stand up there with your crutches.
2:31:26
SPEAKER_03: So I did that and just wave your crush and just wave them around.
2:31:30
SPEAKER_03: All right.
2:31:31
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think we did what band was that?
2:31:33
SPEAKER_03: Same one, Tri Tribus.
2:31:35
SPEAKER_03: That was Tribus?
2:31:35
SPEAKER_07: What year was that?
2:31:37
SPEAKER_03: I used to go to a lot of those shows.
2:31:38
SPEAKER_03: I lived right up the road.
2:31:40
SPEAKER_03: This was 2000, between 2003 and 2005.
2:31:43
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
2:31:44
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we played with uh some that literally sounds right.
2:31:46
SPEAKER_03: I was probably there, dude.
2:31:48
SPEAKER_03: This was um a couple of bands.
2:31:51
SPEAKER_03: Uh Foreskin was there.
2:31:53
SPEAKER_02: That's where I first saw Horny Toads.
2:31:55
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, Horny Toads was there.
2:31:57
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:31:58
SPEAKER_03: Um, this is when we met uh our boys in Gridlock.
2:32:00
SPEAKER_02: And um there was a band called uh uh Totelisty.
2:32:04
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
2:32:04
SPEAKER_02: Do you remember Totelisty from Albuquerque?
2:32:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, those were we tore it up with the fucking dope.
2:32:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and then the uh um who else was there?
2:32:13
SPEAKER_02: That was Gat Rot.
2:32:15
SPEAKER_02: Gat Rot.
2:32:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they had that Gatorade logo.
2:32:19
SPEAKER_02: Is it Gatrot?
2:32:20
SPEAKER_02: Is it Gatorade?
2:32:21
SPEAKER_03: Dude, yeah, we we we played with those guys all over.
2:32:25
SPEAKER_03: Uh Totelisty, Gridlock, and Git.
2:32:27
SPEAKER_03: Dine Beige.
2:32:28
SPEAKER_03: Dine Beige.
2:32:29
SPEAKER_03: Yay! Holy shit.
2:32:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, the scrap! Dude, I would have not remembered that.
2:32:36
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, you're taking me back, dude.
2:32:38
SPEAKER_02: I was like random to you.
2:32:40
SPEAKER_03: I'm like, yeah, that was that was actually my first time seeing Horny Toads.
2:32:44
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:32:44
SPEAKER_03: Was uh when Gerald was still around, still singing.
2:32:47
SPEAKER_03: You know, he came out with that that um that hat with the spikes on it.
2:32:53
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that was dope.
2:32:54
SPEAKER_03: They played Little India three uh little Indians, yeah.
2:32:57
SPEAKER_03: That was badass.
2:32:58
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that was my first time, but yeah, I played that show with in in a cast.
2:33:04
SPEAKER_03: Whoa, fucking nuts, dude.
2:33:08
SPEAKER_02: That's awesome.
2:33:08
SPEAKER_02: I love that.
2:33:10
SPEAKER_02: Those bands, too.
2:33:11
SPEAKER_02: I haven't spoken to those bands.
2:33:13
SPEAKER_02: Nobody knows what the fuck I'm talking about.
2:33:15
SPEAKER_04: I'm confused.
2:33:17
SPEAKER_02: You had your time.
2:33:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, dude.
2:33:22
SPEAKER_02: I was there, I was in there, I was hanging out with all my boys.
2:33:26
SPEAKER_02: It was the time, it was like ninth grade to be alive.
2:33:29
SPEAKER_02: Eighth grade, ninth grade, and you just you don't give a fuck.
2:33:32
SPEAKER_02: Parents weren't even asking.
2:33:34
SPEAKER_02: We didn't have cell phones, we just went to the show and we were hanging out.
2:33:37
SPEAKER_02: Boys and girls club.
2:33:39
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
2:33:40
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
2:33:40
SPEAKER_02: Oh my god.
2:33:42
SPEAKER_03: That was that was a fun time.
2:33:45
SPEAKER_03: Dang, and then I think we played with Horny Toads at the Is it the American Legion Hall right down here in Ship Rock?
2:33:53
SPEAKER_03: I think you were in the band at that time.
2:33:55
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
2:33:57
SPEAKER_06: Damn, that was a while back.
2:33:59
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
2:34:00
SPEAKER_03: Where was that in Chipotle?
2:34:02
SPEAKER_03: Uh the American Legion Hall.
2:34:03
SPEAKER_06: Where's that?
2:34:04
SPEAKER_03: It's um just as you're getting into Kirtland, it's on the right side if you're going if you're going west.
2:34:11
SPEAKER_03: It's um it's a little little uh like a warehouse looking thing.
2:34:16
SPEAKER_03: It's a small place.
2:34:17
SPEAKER_03: Uh-huh.
2:34:18
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:34:18
SPEAKER_03: But we played there one time, horny toads and um I forget who else was on the bill, but I know we're we played kind of early, and even that was an experience, you know, just playing little dive dive places like uh DIY places.
2:34:33
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:34:33
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:34:34
SPEAKER_03: And Chin Lee was always fun because it was just a flatbed, and you had to bring your own PA and yeah, just those DIYs were always fun.
2:34:45
SPEAKER_03: It was crazy.
2:34:48
SPEAKER_03: Have you guys heard from Totelisty?
2:34:50
SPEAKER_03: Are they broken?
2:34:51
SPEAKER_03: Um Ray's actually in Sorry Wedding now.
2:34:54
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:34:54
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he's a singer for that band.
2:34:56
SPEAKER_03: Um Isaac.
2:34:57
SPEAKER_03: And sadly, Isaac and Reagan passed away.
2:35:01
SPEAKER_03: Who was the bass player?
2:35:02
SPEAKER_03: Um he's in he's in Sarry Weddle, too.
2:35:06
SPEAKER_03: Oh, really?
2:35:06
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:35:07
SPEAKER_03: But they're well from when we played with him, it was uh Carl.
2:35:10
SPEAKER_03: I think it was Carl.
2:35:12
SPEAKER_03: Carl Benavidez, you know, he was the bass player at the time.
2:35:15
SPEAKER_02: When I saw them, he was it was that little short guy with the curly hair.
2:35:18
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's that guy.
2:35:19
SPEAKER_03: Carl, Carl.
2:35:20
SPEAKER_02: That's Carl?
2:35:21
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's Carl.
2:35:21
SPEAKER_03: Whatever happened to Carl.
2:35:22
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
2:35:23
SPEAKER_03: Um, I haven't I don't know.
2:35:25
SPEAKER_03: I really that was long ago.
2:35:27
SPEAKER_02: I mean Yeah, he had that bass player that had a uh bass guitar that had a W.
2:35:32
SPEAKER_02: The Warwick.
2:35:34
SPEAKER_02: Warwick Warwick, yeah.
2:35:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and then I remember they were like introducing the band and we went.
2:35:43
SPEAKER_02: I was like, holy shit, that's fucking cool.
2:35:46
SPEAKER_02: And they were just rocking.
2:35:47
SPEAKER_02: And then I ran into him at um the first concert I ever went to, like the actual legit concert was Slipknot.
2:35:54
SPEAKER_02: First concert I ever went to was Slipknot uh with um who was opening it?
2:36:00
SPEAKER_02: Slipknot.
2:36:01
SPEAKER_02: Oh, uh Lamb of God and Shadows Fall.
2:36:05
SPEAKER_06: I I went to that.
2:36:06
SPEAKER_02: You did?
2:36:07
SPEAKER_02: No! See, we were all around, we just didn't fucking know each other.
2:36:11
SPEAKER_02: Yes, I ran into him there.
2:36:13
SPEAKER_02: I was like, hi, hi, to tell us.
2:36:15
SPEAKER_02: I was wearing a shirt to tell us real big right here, and in the back says it is finished.
2:36:18
SPEAKER_02: And like I was like, oh, he's like, dude, and then we did the whole slat, like that.
2:36:25
SPEAKER_02: It was slipknot.
2:36:26
SPEAKER_02: I was probably like fucking 13, 14.
2:36:29
SPEAKER_02: I don't know, but yeah, that was when I think subliminal verses came out.
2:36:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:36:34
SPEAKER_02: During that time.
2:36:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:36:36
SPEAKER_02: I uh I got into that because I didn't I went without a ticket.
2:36:39
SPEAKER_02: I didn't tell my mom.
2:36:41
SPEAKER_02: I wouldn't have to.
2:36:41
SPEAKER_02: I was like, Oh, my friend wants to take me to Albuquerque, we're gonna slip knot.
2:36:44
SPEAKER_02: And we went over there, and then my dad gave me$50.
2:36:48
SPEAKER_02: And then I hear my buddy gave me another fifty dollars, and then it was a scalper.
2:36:52
SPEAKER_02: He's like, see this?
2:36:53
SPEAKER_02: And he had a VIP pass.
2:36:55
SPEAKER_02: And then, or it was like a backstage pass, and he's like, He had like five of them.
2:36:59
SPEAKER_02: He's like, I'm trying to make some money, I'll give you this.
2:37:01
SPEAKER_02: You wear it, we walk around back, you get in, you give me this back.
2:37:05
SPEAKER_02: What do you think?
2:37:06
SPEAKER_02: I was like, and then it was some other big guy, how do I know this is what they're wearing?
2:37:10
SPEAKER_02: He's like, Take it or leave it, dude.
2:37:11
SPEAKER_02: I was like, Oh shit.
2:37:13
SPEAKER_02: And I was like, I'll take it.
2:37:14
SPEAKER_02: Then I gave him that full hundred bucks and he put it on my neck.
2:37:18
SPEAKER_02: He's like, Come on, then we were walking.
2:37:20
SPEAKER_02: There's like security everywhere.
2:37:22
SPEAKER_02: Keep in mind, I'm only like 14 or 13.
2:37:25
SPEAKER_02: I was all scared as shit.
2:37:26
SPEAKER_02: I left my buddy back at the front, walked all the way around back.
2:37:30
SPEAKER_02: I was like, Oh shit, am I gonna meet the band?
2:37:32
SPEAKER_02: Oh, where's the band?
2:37:34
SPEAKER_02: Then he walked all the way in there when we were inside the show.
2:37:36
SPEAKER_02: He's like, we walked further.
2:37:37
SPEAKER_02: He's like, Come on, come on, let's go.
2:37:38
SPEAKER_02: He's like, Not take it off.
2:37:40
SPEAKER_02: I'm take it off.
2:37:41
SPEAKER_02: He's like, have fun.
2:37:41
SPEAKER_02: He walked off.
2:37:42
SPEAKER_02: I was like, Oh, I'm in here! Holy shit! Yeah, that's great.
2:37:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that was nuts.
2:37:47
SPEAKER_02: Fuck yeah.
2:37:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and then he got in, we had a good show, it was so fun.
2:37:52
SPEAKER_02: And then when I got out, the dude was sitting on the curb and he was all pissed.
2:37:56
SPEAKER_02: And I was all walking by him, he's like, Hey, why'd you tell on me, man?
2:37:59
SPEAKER_00: I was like, Huh?
2:38:00
SPEAKER_00: I was like, Oh, never mind, it wasn't you.
2:38:02
SPEAKER_02: Damn, his ass fired.
2:38:05
SPEAKER_02: Oh shit, he got busted.
2:38:07
SPEAKER_02: I don't know how many people he snuck into that show, but he got his ass fired.
2:38:11
SPEAKER_02: Damn, right?
2:38:12
SPEAKER_02: That's crazy.
2:38:14
SPEAKER_02: And I almost got the lucky one, huh?
2:38:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I got in.
2:38:17
SPEAKER_02: Oh, he probably got that money snatched from him and everything, but dude, oh my gosh.
2:38:22
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, yeah, that that show I almost died.
2:38:25
SPEAKER_02: That was my first legit mosh pit slipknot.
2:38:28
SPEAKER_02: My legs got smashed, I got pinned down to the ground like this.
2:38:32
SPEAKER_02: Everybody was just stomping on me.
2:38:34
SPEAKER_02: And I was like, somebody helped! I was getting my ass kicked.
2:38:38
SPEAKER_02: And then there was this little goth kid.
2:38:40
SPEAKER_02: I remember him.
2:38:41
SPEAKER_02: I don't know where he's at now.
2:38:43
SPEAKER_02: Like, or if I'll ever meet him in life again.
2:38:46
SPEAKER_02: But he took care of me.
2:38:47
SPEAKER_02: There was this big dude who wanted to beat my ass.
2:38:50
SPEAKER_02: I don't know why.
2:38:51
SPEAKER_02: He fucking hated me.
2:38:52
SPEAKER_02: And then I started talking before Shadows Fall came on.
2:38:55
SPEAKER_02: I was talking to the the little goth kid.
2:38:58
SPEAKER_02: He's probably older than me.
2:38:58
SPEAKER_02: He must have been older than me.
2:39:00
SPEAKER_02: He was probably like in his 20s, but he's like, I had to call off.
2:39:02
SPEAKER_02: I told my boss, I'm going to this show, I don't care what you say.
2:39:04
SPEAKER_02: And I was like, Oh, cool.
2:39:06
SPEAKER_02: He were talking, and then that big dude grabbed me and he kept on like grabbing my shoulders and shaking me, probably because I was so small.
2:39:13
SPEAKER_02: And here that dude ran up and decked him right in the fucking nose.
2:39:17
SPEAKER_02: There was blood everywhere, and he said, I got you, man.
2:39:21
SPEAKER_02: I got you.
2:39:22
SPEAKER_02: I was like, thank you.
2:39:24
SPEAKER_02: You know, I that was the most insane show.
2:39:27
SPEAKER_02: That was my first real concert experience with Slipknot.
2:39:32
SPEAKER_03: I got clocked twice.
2:39:34
SPEAKER_03: The first time was at Mudvane and at the convention center.
2:39:40
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so Mudvane, well, 10 years in the city.
2:39:43
SPEAKER_03: No, it was it was Mud Vane, Disturbed headline.
2:39:47
SPEAKER_03: It was Mud Vane, Disturbed, Spine Shank, and Nothing Face.
2:39:51
SPEAKER_03: Oh, right.
2:39:52
SPEAKER_03: And the pit opened up.
2:39:54
SPEAKER_03: I was like right up almost right up front when uh Mud Vane came on, and that pit started going, and I just happened to get right right at the out outskirts of it, and I turned around and I was gonna run around in it, and some bat chick boom got me right in the jaws.
2:40:10
SPEAKER_03: Like, oh shit.
2:40:12
SPEAKER_03: And then I look back and everybody's just fighting in the pit.
2:40:15
SPEAKER_03: I'm like, fuck that, I'm not going in there.
2:40:18
SPEAKER_03: But the second time was at uh Pantera.
2:40:21
SPEAKER_03: I went and saw him at the convention center again with um Soul Fly, Morbid Angel, and Nothing Face.
2:40:28
SPEAKER_03: Okay, and same thing, like right on the outskirts of the pit.
2:40:32
SPEAKER_03: And that man, they had the pyros going off, and they were up front and being squished, and just the heat.
2:40:40
SPEAKER_03: It was instant, it was intense.
2:40:41
SPEAKER_02: That's what really got me too at the slipknot.
2:40:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:40:44
SPEAKER_02: I wasn't prepared for that.
2:40:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
2:40:46
SPEAKER_02: The pyro your first concert, and you think, oh, cool, I've seen it in the movies.
2:40:50
SPEAKER_02: I see everybody up front chilling.
2:40:52
SPEAKER_02: You get up there, you're like, Yeah.
2:40:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you're just getting your ass handy, getting the hell beat out of you, dude.
2:40:59
SPEAKER_03: It's like there was a dude that walked by and the security was guiding him.
2:41:03
SPEAKER_03: He had a big old gash right above his eye.
2:41:06
SPEAKER_03: Oh, man.
2:41:06
SPEAKER_03: And then I was like, fuck, this is crazy.
2:41:08
SPEAKER_03: And I was high.
2:41:11
SPEAKER_03: Like I was I got I got baked right before um Sl uh Soulfly went on.
2:41:18
SPEAKER_03: And that was fucking sick.
2:41:19
SPEAKER_03: They they tore it up.
2:41:21
SPEAKER_03: But when when Pantera came on, holy shit.
2:41:24
SPEAKER_03: I just about lost it and I fucking freaked out.
2:41:29
SPEAKER_02: What'd you like?
2:41:40
SPEAKER_06: I don't even know if there was a time.
2:41:43
SPEAKER_06: I don't know.
2:41:44
SPEAKER_06: The the Mexico crowd got pretty fucking crazy when we were out there.
2:41:48
SPEAKER_01: What's all this about Mexico?
2:41:49
SPEAKER_01: Why'd you guys go to Mexico?
2:41:50
SPEAKER_04: I almost got hurt in that in that um wall of death.
2:41:54
SPEAKER_04: Like I seriously thought one of my my ribs were broken.
2:41:58
SPEAKER_04: And it was for um Creator.
2:42:01
SPEAKER_04: Creator, they split up the whole crowd.
2:42:04
SPEAKER_04: There was a lot of people there because it was a festival.
2:42:06
SPEAKER_04: We also saw Deft Tones that night, too.
2:42:08
SPEAKER_04: Okay, so it was a big festival, and they split that up.
2:42:12
SPEAKER_04: And I I was so hyped, you know, I was in a different country, and I was seeing Creator, like the fuck yeah, I'm gonna get into this.
2:42:19
SPEAKER_04: And fucking, once they all fucking went through, like I got hit so hard in the ribs.
2:42:25
SPEAKER_04: Oh my god.
2:42:26
SPEAKER_04: And I was just like feeling it the rest of the night.
2:42:28
SPEAKER_04: I was just like, holy shit, guys, I'm gonna have to go to one of these tents.
2:42:32
SPEAKER_04: But I was just like, fuck that.
2:42:33
SPEAKER_04: I don't want to, you know.
2:42:35
SPEAKER_04: What am I gonna say to them?
2:42:36
SPEAKER_04: Do they speak English or anything like that?
2:42:38
SPEAKER_04: Or what are they gonna do to me?
2:42:39
SPEAKER_04: What if they literally need to take me to a hospital?
2:42:42
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, are they gonna take my liver or something?
2:42:45
SPEAKER_01: Wake up in a hotel somewhere.
2:42:47
SPEAKER_04: Exactly in the ice bath, you know.
2:42:49
SPEAKER_04: Like I was just like, fuck, man, you know, I'll just I'll just leave it, you know.
2:42:53
SPEAKER_04: And then all the adrenaline just being at the show, I kind of just forgot about it.
2:42:57
SPEAKER_04: But I could still feel it throughout the day.
2:42:59
SPEAKER_04: I was just like, guys, I think something's wrong.
2:43:01
SPEAKER_04: But after a while it went away, and I was just like, all right, cool, I think I'm good.
2:43:05
SPEAKER_04: You know, like but that was fun.
2:43:07
SPEAKER_04: Um the whole Mexico thing is we went down there when we were in Signal 99, we got invited.
2:43:14
SPEAKER_04: Um we used to be a part of a record company called Dead Sea Records.
2:43:20
SPEAKER_04: So they had like a little roster of bands that they there's a few bands that we took down there that they and then Signal 99 was one of them.
2:43:28
SPEAKER_04: They wanted to take us down there too.
2:43:30
SPEAKER_04: So that was pretty crazy.
2:43:34
SPEAKER_04: Like the first night was crazy because it's the first night we played in um Tijuana.
2:43:40
SPEAKER_04: Oh shit.
2:43:40
SPEAKER_04: We played in a bar at Tijuana, and I swear, dude.
2:43:44
SPEAKER_04: I swear the server there was trying to get us fucked up.
2:43:47
SPEAKER_04: He brought out this big old fucking bottle of tequila, and I don't know how much we all drank of it, but I don't I don't remember playing that show.
2:43:56
SPEAKER_04: I remember being on stage a few times and then sitting at the table after, like supposedly I was being like fucking goofy.
2:44:03
SPEAKER_04: No, I was I was a quiet person, I was being all goofy and shit like that.
2:44:08
SPEAKER_04: And that's I only remember parts throughout the night.
2:44:11
SPEAKER_04: And in another sketch thing was I bought some weed from one of the waiters.
2:44:16
SPEAKER_04: No, we had to go all the way in the back.
2:44:18
SPEAKER_04: He was like, Meet me in the back.
2:44:19
SPEAKER_04: So we went all the way in the back.
2:44:22
SPEAKER_04: I gave him some money and then he gave me some weed.
2:44:24
SPEAKER_04: I was just like, hell yeah.
2:44:25
SPEAKER_04: And then and then that's after we all got fucked up.
2:44:28
SPEAKER_04: He he gave us a lot of tequila and shit like that.
2:44:32
SPEAKER_04: I came out of it when we got, I guess when we were all in our hotel room, everybody was in the room, just having a good time talking, and that's when I finally came out of it.
2:44:43
SPEAKER_04: I was just like, Where the fuck am I?
2:44:45
SPEAKER_04: Like, we just weren't we just gonna play a show, like and they were like, Yeah, we played.
2:44:50
SPEAKER_04: Well, and they're all telling me about it.
2:44:53
SPEAKER_04: I was the same way too.
2:44:54
SPEAKER_04: It was it fucking scared because when we came out of it, like 10 minutes later, they're like, We gotta get on this bus, we gotta take a flight, we gotta get on a plane.
2:45:06
SPEAKER_04: And where did we play after that?
2:45:08
SPEAKER_06: Was it um I think we went all the way down to um Monterey?
2:45:11
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, it was Monterey.
2:45:13
SPEAKER_06: That's all still in Mexico?
2:45:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we went um so scared to get on a plane in Mexico, dude.
2:45:17
SPEAKER_04: It was horrible being, you know, just coming out, being batshit drunk and everything, having to get on a plane jet lag after it.
2:45:26
SPEAKER_04: Like we weren't even prepared to get on a plane, we had no chapstick and shit.
2:45:30
SPEAKER_02: I can't imagine all that being drunk.
2:45:32
SPEAKER_02: Like, I've been drunk in McDonald's, and I'm like, fuck no, dude, we gotta get the fuck out of here.
2:45:37
SPEAKER_02: Like, fuck no.
2:45:38
SPEAKER_02: I'm on a plane.
2:45:39
SPEAKER_04: You don't get me on a plane when I'm fucking.
2:45:41
SPEAKER_04: We had enough people around us, like we were so fucked up, but we had enough people around us that watched us and took care of us, and an even better thing was there's a band that we um befriended down there while we were down there, their name Bacteria, uh-huh, and they were a really huge help down there because they were all um Mexican, so they could talk with people for us and stuff like that, and they told us like a lot of things, like good tips and everything.
2:46:08
SPEAKER_04: Like they're just like, make sure you don't act like a tourist.
2:46:11
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, like people are gonna c catch on to that and try to take advantage of you.
2:46:16
SPEAKER_04: How did you not act like a tourist?
2:46:18
SPEAKER_04: Dude, I don't even know.
2:46:22
SPEAKER_04: Like, just don't talk.
2:46:25
SPEAKER_04: But yeah, that that was that was such a fun thing.
2:46:28
SPEAKER_04: Like that whole trip was just a new experience going into a different country, having to get a passport, and going through all of that was kind of like nerve-wracking, you know, when they're checking your passport and everything, you're like, I hope everything's good, you know, don't take me to the back or anything like that.
2:46:45
SPEAKER_02: I I I was always telling my best friend, um, she was like, Where some places you don't ever want to go?
2:46:52
SPEAKER_02: And she was like, I hope I never go to jail.
2:46:54
SPEAKER_02: I hope I never I hope I don't end up in hell.
2:46:57
SPEAKER_02: And I was just like, Mine's a Mexican prison, Mexican jail.
2:47:01
SPEAKER_02: I don't ever want to go.
2:47:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and maybe I was thinking like maybe the 30s when it's just like a bar, like like not like a bar, but like little bars in the sand and they don't have a floor and dirt.
2:47:10
SPEAKER_02: I'm just like, oh, I'm just thinking it's probably like a legit jail.
2:47:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:47:14
SPEAKER_02: But like still, you're in Mexico, you're in a different country.
2:47:18
SPEAKER_02: I don't want to be in a place like that.
2:47:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was our first time they're gonna do.
2:47:22
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and it was, you know, after we played Monre, there was another place we went to called Saltillo, and that place was like the coolest place ever.
2:47:31
SPEAKER_04: There's just a bunch of like old buildings.
2:47:34
SPEAKER_04: You could tell everything was old.
2:47:36
SPEAKER_04: We even went into this like very old cathedral.
2:47:39
SPEAKER_04: And just like a church, yeah.
2:47:41
SPEAKER_04: Just going into it, you could just feel that energy of the place.
2:47:44
SPEAKER_04: Like the guitarists we had, like him just being in there, he got emotional and all this other shit.
2:47:52
SPEAKER_04: Like, I don't know, it was just a weird feeling walking into something like that.
2:47:55
SPEAKER_04: Like, damn, you can really feel the energy coming out of this place.
2:47:59
SPEAKER_04: And another cool place about that place is um the venue we played at.
2:48:05
SPEAKER_04: I forgot what it was called, but it had like this medieval castle kind of look, like you could go all the way to the top, too.
2:48:14
SPEAKER_04: We even didn't we play at the top?
2:48:16
SPEAKER_04: We didn't play at the top, but there were some other bands that played like towards the roof area.
2:48:21
SPEAKER_04: They had like a whole bar up there, a dining area.
2:48:24
SPEAKER_04: You could just see everything, like the city and everything from up there.
2:48:27
SPEAKER_04: It was so awesome.
2:48:28
SPEAKER_04: Like that was the that was honestly the best one to play.
2:48:32
SPEAKER_04: It was really cool.
2:48:33
SPEAKER_04: Just Mexico was a really different experience.
2:48:37
SPEAKER_04: You know, we were scared to go there at first, like we didn't know how it really was, or we always heard about the cartel and stuff like that.
2:48:45
SPEAKER_04: Oh shit, see that too.
2:48:46
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
2:48:47
SPEAKER_04: So, but that was fun, you know.
2:48:49
SPEAKER_04: We were part of that Dead Sea Records for a bit, and they they we were supposed to play that festival that we went to, but some stuff fell through, like miscommunication with whoever was running all of that.
2:49:03
SPEAKER_04: But eventually, you know, we all got passes to go in.
2:49:06
SPEAKER_04: So, like I said, we saw we saw Gene Simmons, we saw Creator, we saw Deft Tones, a little bit of docking.
2:49:14
SPEAKER_04: Saw Docking too.
2:49:15
SPEAKER_04: Oh wow.
2:49:16
SPEAKER_04: So that was that was just a really good experience for us to get to go somewhere else and play for a different crowd.
2:49:24
SPEAKER_04: Like the people down there fucking love music.
2:49:28
SPEAKER_04: Really?
2:49:28
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, they fucking love music, like they loved us down there.
2:49:32
SPEAKER_04: It was it was so crazy.
2:49:34
SPEAKER_04: Just the love and everything that we got after we got off stage.
2:49:37
SPEAKER_04: And did they come talking to you?
2:49:39
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, they they did, but then they're surprised when you tell them, Oh, we're Native American.
2:49:44
SPEAKER_06: Like we're Navajo.
2:49:46
SPEAKER_06: Then they see our long hair and everything, and yeah, they're all nerized.
2:49:52
SPEAKER_06: It was pretty thanks.
2:49:54
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, like it was kind of nerve-wracking because we couldn't really speak the language either.
2:49:59
SPEAKER_04: So, like, it was funny because I had this really hot Mexican chick come up to me and she started speaking in a different, you know, Mexican to me, and I was just like, damn it, I can't say anything to you back.
2:50:12
SPEAKER_04: Like, I had to tell her I don't speak English and everything.
2:50:16
SPEAKER_04: Like, I know, yeah, but eventually I was just like, uh, I gotta go find my bandmates.
2:50:22
SPEAKER_04: Like, but that was that was a really cool experience.
2:50:26
SPEAKER_04: And another reason the whole doll thing, there's this one band.
2:50:31
SPEAKER_04: Okay, there's this one band that had a doll they carried around.
2:50:35
SPEAKER_04: What would they name him?
2:50:36
SPEAKER_04: Caruso?
2:50:37
SPEAKER_04: Caruso.
2:50:38
SPEAKER_04: He had a name.
2:50:39
SPEAKER_04: His name is Caruso.
2:50:40
SPEAKER_04: It's like a clown-looking doll, too.
2:50:41
SPEAKER_04: Oh shit.
2:50:42
SPEAKER_04: And supposedly he would come to life.
2:50:45
SPEAKER_04: Like Yeah, he would.
2:50:48
SPEAKER_06: Isn't that what they say?
2:50:50
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, they were saying that.
2:50:51
SPEAKER_06: Um I don't know.
2:50:52
SPEAKER_06: There's like there's like another like weird cathedral place down in Mexico they were talking about, and it's like really dark and eerie.
2:51:01
SPEAKER_06: And they said they they went into it and they had like this big old display case of like just supposedly, you know, dolls and everything that are you know, possessed and everything.
2:51:16
SPEAKER_06: And they said when they took the their doll in there, they said they could feel like the energy like from that whole display case, like they were looking at the doll they were carrying and everything, and oh my gosh.
2:51:34
SPEAKER_06: And then of course, you know, we all were hanging out, then everyone, you know, we were hanging out at this um our rooms we were staying at.
2:51:45
SPEAKER_06: It was like in like a Airbnb, like a little community and everything.
2:51:48
SPEAKER_06: And it was like a gated community, it's kind of weird, like, but it was a cool place.
2:51:53
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, so everyone was just going back and forth to different, you know, different places everyone was staying at.
2:51:59
SPEAKER_06: And you know, they had the doll out.
2:52:02
SPEAKER_06: And I was just I got to hold it, and I shit you not, just the fucking energy in that thing.
2:52:11
SPEAKER_06: I felt it.
2:52:12
SPEAKER_06: I was just like I gave it back.
2:52:14
SPEAKER_06: Gross, what did you feel?
2:52:16
SPEAKER_06: I don't know.
2:52:17
SPEAKER_06: It just when I felt it, it just I don't know, it felt like to me, it felt like it was alive, like you're holding a real person.
2:52:25
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, like a real person.
2:52:27
SPEAKER_06: It just felt like that, and I gave it back and I was like, no, I don't know.
2:52:31
SPEAKER_04: In that cathedral that they went to that he was talking about, they said it every now and then, like, because it was abandoned, and they said every now and then you would see because the the doors are kind of like glass, they said every now and then you would just see someone like a lady standing at that window right there, and then she would just disappear.
2:52:48
SPEAKER_04: And uh, didn't they mention that they heard like little kids and stuff like that in that cathedral?
2:52:54
SPEAKER_04: Oh, in that cathedral, yeah.
2:52:55
SPEAKER_04: They said they heard like the sound of like laughing of kids and running around and stuff like that.
2:53:01
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so like after that, I was just like, you know, I hate dolls even more now.
2:53:07
SPEAKER_04: Like then I've even heard another story of from my aunt.
2:53:11
SPEAKER_04: Um, she used to own these like little clown dolls.
2:53:15
SPEAKER_04: I used to be fucking scared of them.
2:53:17
SPEAKER_04: Like, I was like, you know, those things look like they can come to life.
2:53:20
SPEAKER_04: And I actually heard a story about those little clown dolls.
2:53:24
SPEAKER_04: Like someone, I forgot who was telling me, but someone was telling me that they were home alone once.
2:53:29
SPEAKER_04: And you know, and in in that room where they those little clowns were, he said he could just hear like laughter, like some, you know, like two kids or something like having fun together.
2:53:41
SPEAKER_04: Like he could just hear something in the room.
2:53:44
SPEAKER_04: And he said, when he walked in there, he said, those two little clown dolls, they were literally like holding each other and spinning in a circle and just laughing.
2:53:53
SPEAKER_04: Oh god, yeah.
2:53:55
SPEAKER_04: So I've heard stories like that, and I'm just like, man, I don't do dolls.
2:53:59
SPEAKER_02: But my my yeah, my my aunt had a clown doll in in her guest room.
2:54:05
SPEAKER_02: She lives in Las Vegas, and we would always be so scared.
2:54:08
SPEAKER_02: It was always had like the biggest like that like smile, like cheesed out smile.
2:54:12
SPEAKER_02: And he was hanging like it was crucified on the wall above the bed.
2:54:17
SPEAKER_02: And me and my brother would walk in there be like, is that clown in there?
2:54:19
SPEAKER_02: I don't know, go look, and we'd be like, Yep, yep, yep, don't go in there like that.
2:54:24
SPEAKER_02: And that would be our room.
2:54:26
SPEAKER_02: Like, why do you why is there a clown in there?
2:54:27
SPEAKER_02: I don't know why she got it.
2:54:28
SPEAKER_02: We eventually saw the clown and his head and made a styrofoam, but it was just like, yeah, I get you mean.
2:54:34
SPEAKER_04: Another another thing that really scared me growing up is my when we used to go to my grandma's um, my aunt's used to live there too, and she used to have a bunch of porcelain dolls.
2:54:45
SPEAKER_04: Ew.
2:54:46
SPEAKER_04: And I should she not sometimes go to sleep in the same room with them.
2:54:50
SPEAKER_04: Like, I just have to put them in the closet.
2:54:52
SPEAKER_04: I was like, you know what?
2:54:53
SPEAKER_04: I'm not dealing with this tonight.
2:54:55
SPEAKER_04: Y'all are going in there.
2:54:56
SPEAKER_04: Like, and I've even had dreams.
2:54:59
SPEAKER_04: I've even had dreams of like being at my grandma's house and just all of a sudden seeing a doll come around the corner down the hallway, like coming towards me.
2:55:08
SPEAKER_04: And I'm like, Fuck no, dude.
2:55:10
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, dude, man, in my dream, I'll just go outside and the doll's still coming, and finally I wake up and I'm just like, holy shit, I'm glad that was a dream.
2:55:18
SPEAKER_02: Like, I remember in like 2016 I had this fucked up nightmare about a straw doll.
2:55:27
SPEAKER_02: A doll made out of straw, like hay.
2:55:30
SPEAKER_02: And it came to life and seeing that fucking doll walk like towards me.
2:55:36
SPEAKER_02: And it was only this small.
2:55:38
SPEAKER_02: Uh, Jordan from Low Cash was in my dream.
2:55:40
SPEAKER_02: I don't know why the fuck.
2:55:42
SPEAKER_02: I was just like, hey, Jordan, where are you going?
2:55:44
SPEAKER_01: He's like, I'm gonna go walk down this way.
2:55:46
SPEAKER_02: And I was like, okay.
2:55:47
SPEAKER_02: And we were in like Durango or something.
2:55:49
SPEAKER_02: I don't know, it was like Albuquerque, it was like a downtown.
2:55:52
SPEAKER_02: And he's like, We're gonna go down the stairs, go check it out.
2:55:54
SPEAKER_02: I was like, fuck it, I'll go with you.
2:55:56
SPEAKER_02: And he we walked down there and then he just disappeared.
2:55:58
SPEAKER_02: Like, hey, where'd you go?
2:56:00
SPEAKER_02: Then we saw it was a bunch of straw dolls laying there, like raggedy Andy just laying there.
2:56:05
SPEAKER_02: And they were all had straw hands.
2:56:07
SPEAKER_02: Then I was like, dude, I'm getting a fucked up vibe.
2:56:10
SPEAKER_02: It's like, hey, Chartered, where'd you go?
2:56:13
SPEAKER_02: I was looking at it, hey.
2:56:14
SPEAKER_02: Then all of a sudden I shared, tssst, tss, and it's a straw doll walking towards me.
2:56:19
SPEAKER_02: Oh, fuck no.
2:56:20
SPEAKER_02: And I ran up the stairs, and I swear I felt like hands grab me, like a force grabbed me and pull me down the stairs.
2:56:27
SPEAKER_02: And we were living over by um the USPS over there.
2:56:32
SPEAKER_02: Those apartments.
2:56:33
SPEAKER_02: And so we had stairs that were going up, and my then partner at the time, I was like, look, this is exactly we went downstairs, and I was like, now run up the stairs.
2:56:41
SPEAKER_02: And she tried to run up the stairs, and I grabbed her, but she's like, ah! She got all scared of me.
2:56:45
SPEAKER_02: And I was like, this is how the force felt in my dream.
2:56:47
SPEAKER_02: Like, I swear.
2:56:49
SPEAKER_02: I was having terrible nightmares at that time.
2:56:51
SPEAKER_02: Oh man.
2:56:52
SPEAKER_02: Like, was it what are they called?
2:56:53
SPEAKER_02: Sleep paralysis.
2:56:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:56:55
SPEAKER_02: I was having fucked up sleep paralysis.
2:56:58
SPEAKER_02: And that one of those dreams was the paralysis.
2:57:01
SPEAKER_02: Like, I could not escape that.
2:57:03
SPEAKER_02: But when you were saying dolls and porcelain shit, that was one of the dolls that freaked me the fuck out.
2:57:09
SPEAKER_02: Like a straw doll.
2:57:10
SPEAKER_02: Like it's a straw.
2:57:11
SPEAKER_02: It's just made it's just got like a shirt like this, and there's just hay coming out of it.
2:57:16
SPEAKER_02: And then it just goes and walks towards you.
2:57:19
SPEAKER_02: It's like, ah.
2:57:20
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I can see how that would be a weird.
2:57:23
SPEAKER_04: I can just picture it in my head, like, I'm scared now.
2:57:26
SPEAKER_04: Uh-uh.
2:57:27
SPEAKER_04: Uh-uh.
2:57:27
SPEAKER_00: Uh-uh.
2:57:30
SPEAKER_02: What time is it?
2:57:31
SPEAKER_02: It's 10.
2:57:34
SPEAKER_02: Bro! Where the fuck did the time go?
2:57:38
SPEAKER_02: Seven, eight, nine.
2:57:39
SPEAKER_02: Dude, okay.
2:57:40
SPEAKER_02: Alright.
2:57:40
SPEAKER_02: I think I think hey, I think it's time.
2:57:44
SPEAKER_02: I think we've gone down so many rabbit holes.
2:57:46
SPEAKER_02: But hell yeah, dude.
2:57:47
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
2:57:48
SPEAKER_02: So, so um so I guess we're coming to the end.
2:57:51
SPEAKER_02: Do you guys want to give any shout-outs to anybody?
2:57:55
SPEAKER_03: We want to shout out to Jude Candelaria at Dragonfly.
2:57:59
SPEAKER_03: We want to shout out to Randall Hosky at Rancid Savage, uh, Brian over MB.
2:58:04
SPEAKER_03: Um, you, of course.
2:58:06
SPEAKER_03: Thank you very much.
2:58:08
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:58:08
SPEAKER_03: And just all the bands, man.
2:58:10
SPEAKER_03: All the fucking bands we played with, you know, local, near and far.
2:58:15
SPEAKER_03: It's just been in a it's just been a ride.
2:58:17
SPEAKER_03: It's just been awesome.
2:58:18
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
2:58:19
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
2:58:19
SPEAKER_04: I want to shout out my mom for listening to our fucking playing all the time and supposing us all the way.
2:58:26
SPEAKER_04: So also want to shout out.
2:58:28
SPEAKER_04: I don't know if you know, you just had Mikos on here.
2:58:31
SPEAKER_04: I don't know if you know that I called my bait often.
2:58:35
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
2:58:35
SPEAKER_04: That's my bait right there.
2:58:38
SPEAKER_04: I gotta give him a shout-out.
2:58:39
SPEAKER_04: My boy too.
2:58:40
SPEAKER_04: Hey.
2:58:44
SPEAKER_06: Better don't, better don't.
2:58:46
SPEAKER_04: Brother Love.
2:58:47
SPEAKER_04: But yeah, just all the local bands around here.
2:58:49
SPEAKER_04: Shout out, you know.
2:58:51
SPEAKER_04: Um, I know we're an older band in the sense.
2:58:55
SPEAKER_08: So we're not old, we're still young.
2:58:57
SPEAKER_08: Stop it.
2:58:58
SPEAKER_04: No, we're really proud of like just the younger bands and the upcoming bands like that.
2:59:02
SPEAKER_04: One of our favorite bands right now is Treaty.
2:59:05
SPEAKER_04: So we yeah, we want to give a huge shout out to Treaty.
2:59:08
SPEAKER_04: So and yeah, like he said, Jude, Brian.
2:59:11
SPEAKER_04: Brian has always been in our corner from MB.
2:59:15
SPEAKER_04: So we've we've gone back with him far.
2:59:18
SPEAKER_04: So he is also a friend of my dad's too.
2:59:21
SPEAKER_04: So we really know him in that sense.
2:59:23
SPEAKER_04: And shout out to my brother too.
2:59:26
SPEAKER_04: You know, he really got me into music and stuff like that.
2:59:30
SPEAKER_04: And yeah, shout out to my dad because he he was the whole reason we got into music.
2:59:38
SPEAKER_04: He's the whole like we still have his um his uh cassette collection.
2:59:44
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, like it's just cool to see all those bands on there, but yeah, I just wanted to shout out those people that are really close to me.
2:59:52
SPEAKER_04: Hell yeah.
2:59:53
SPEAKER_02: Hell yeah.
2:59:54
SPEAKER_06: Anybody mark up?
2:59:55
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, shout out, of course, you know, to my mom, um, my girlfriend, of course.
3:00:00
SPEAKER_06: Um just all the bands here that you know are still doing it.
3:00:05
SPEAKER_06: I mean, I see a lot of new talent and I'm just like, holy shit, like where did you guys come from?
3:00:11
SPEAKER_06: Like and just like some of the music they play, um, it's just like wow.
3:00:16
SPEAKER_06: It's just it's good to see it evolve, you know, as long as I've been in the scene and everything.
3:00:22
SPEAKER_06: But you know, of course, shout out the guys from um under exile.
3:00:26
SPEAKER_06: Oh yeah, heart museum.
3:00:28
SPEAKER_06: If I'm forgetting anyone, don't get mad at me.
3:00:31
SPEAKER_04: I also want to give a shout out to our buddies in um California.
3:00:35
SPEAKER_04: They're their band is named Hellheart.
3:00:37
SPEAKER_04: Hellhart, yes.
3:00:39
SPEAKER_04: They're the whole reason that we get down to California.
3:00:41
SPEAKER_04: So Jess.
3:00:45
SPEAKER_06: Jess, yes, Jess, Jeff, Brandon, um, Bradley.
3:00:51
SPEAKER_06: I feel like I'm forgetting someone.
3:00:54
SPEAKER_06: Oh, oh, oh, uh, the drummer.
3:00:56
SPEAKER_06: Um I forgot his name, DeAndre.
3:00:59
SPEAKER_06: DeAndre.
3:01:00
SPEAKER_06: There we go.
3:01:02
SPEAKER_06: Oh, and of course, you know, shout out to some um Denver bands.
3:01:05
SPEAKER_06: A Denver band that I that I just you know love and got to see them the other last week, actually, uh, Goat Hill Massacre.
3:01:13
SPEAKER_04: Oh wow.
3:01:14
SPEAKER_04: Shout out to Travis too, because we wouldn't be doing this right now if he didn't ask us.
3:01:19
SPEAKER_04: Oh shit.
3:01:20
SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah.
3:01:21
SPEAKER_06: Travis Travis didn't call me that one day asking to borrow$200.
3:01:26
SPEAKER_04: I don't think we'd be right here.
3:01:29
SPEAKER_04: Travis didn't do his shout-out to bar as heart dogs.
3:01:32
SPEAKER_03: Hey, it's it's uh ballpark.
3:01:36
SPEAKER_03: Damn.
3:01:37
SPEAKER_03: Shout out to Kraven and Eric.
3:01:40
SPEAKER_03: Um great fucking guitar players, and shout out to the you know, the previous members that we've had and all the all the work they put into all the music that we that we play, and major shout out to them.
3:01:53
SPEAKER_03: But like like they said, you know, shout out to their mom, shout out to my folks and my my family, you know.
3:01:59
SPEAKER_03: Without that, without that um support from you know the family and friends, it's it wouldn't have happened.
3:02:06
SPEAKER_03: But of course, shout out to the fans too.
3:02:08
SPEAKER_03: Major shout out to them.
3:02:09
SPEAKER_07: Hell yeah.
3:02:11
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, huge shout out to the fans because we always see the same faces all at a lot of people.
3:02:15
SPEAKER_04: You're talking to me.
3:02:16
SPEAKER_04: I'm a fan of you guys.
3:02:18
SPEAKER_02: Did you guys do a cover of corn song too?
3:02:20
SPEAKER_03: No.
3:02:22
SPEAKER_03: Not yet.
3:02:23
SPEAKER_03: Not yet.
3:02:24
SPEAKER_03: No, uh, I think Born of Winter.
3:02:25
SPEAKER_03: Born of Winter.
3:02:26
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, Born of Winter.
3:02:27
SPEAKER_03: I think it was Falls.
3:02:28
SPEAKER_03: But you said not yet.
3:02:29
SPEAKER_03: Shout out Bourna Winter, Irv and the Boys.
3:02:32
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
3:02:32
SPEAKER_02: Yep, yep, Irv and Boys.
3:02:34
SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
3:02:35
SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
3:02:36
SPEAKER_02: Well, hey guys, thanks for traveling here and being here.
3:02:40
SPEAKER_02: You know, you we gotta do this again another time.
3:02:42
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
3:02:43
SPEAKER_02: Maybe, maybe we'll we'll make ice cream sundaes or something.
3:02:46
SPEAKER_02: Or play a game.
3:02:47
SPEAKER_02: Root beer floats.
3:02:48
SPEAKER_02: Root beer floats.
3:02:49
SPEAKER_04: We'll bring the kits too.
3:02:50
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, we'll bring the kits.
3:02:51
SPEAKER_02: Well, hey, we gotta have a trip session.
3:02:53
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, dudes, I'm so glad you guys are here.
3:02:56
SPEAKER_02: Uh, I want to give a shout-out to Mr.
3:02:58
SPEAKER_02: Ghost.
3:02:59
SPEAKER_02: He's a local, local business.
3:03:01
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna give out a shout-out to Curly, my uh recent co-host.
3:03:05
SPEAKER_02: She's still my co-host, but uh, she has a barber shop.
3:03:08
SPEAKER_06: I might need a trim soon, Curly.
3:03:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the spot barber shop.
3:03:13
SPEAKER_02: Book her on Booksie, download the app booksie and find her on Booksie.
3:03:16
SPEAKER_02: Go follow her on Instagram and um my mind went blank right now.
3:03:22
SPEAKER_02: But yes, support your local music, everybody.
3:03:25
SPEAKER_02: Uh, this has been an episode of a Tribus.
3:03:27
SPEAKER_02: This is how we do it.
3:03:28
SPEAKER_02: Uh three, two, one, we're gonna say the bye in the world.
3:03:31
SPEAKER_01: Wildest, wacky way we can.
3:03:33
SPEAKER_01: Three, two, one.