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You Won't Be Stuck In The Middle UFO's And Gods From Producer Bill Myers · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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  Speaker 1: It really is about having fun, exploring, and finding things
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  Speaker 2: Good morning.
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  Speaker 1: Where are you located at today, sir?
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  Speaker 2: I am in Southern California. Where are you hanging?
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  Speaker 1: I'm hanging out over here in Carolina. So whatever you're
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  Speaker 1: getting weather-wise, we usually end up getting.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry about that.
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  Speaker 1: How did you get involved with a project like this?
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  Speaker 1: Because this is a true conversation starter and I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to be an activator as well.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Uh, I did not want to be a part
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  Speaker 2: of this. Um, no, I, my tin hat foil tin
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  Speaker 2: hat was in the, uh, dry cleaners at the moment.
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  Speaker 2: So I was not really fond of, of jumping in
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  Speaker 2: that water, but, uh, The guy challenged me, the man
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  Speaker 2: with the money, the executive producer, and I tried to
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  Speaker 2: pass it off to some other directors and producers, but
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  Speaker 2: it kept bouncing back to me. So I did the
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  Speaker 2: research and thought, well, yeah, this is a timely piece. But,
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  Speaker 2: you know, this was... this was hundreds of thousands of
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  Speaker 2: dollars ago in four years in the making. So, uh,
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  Speaker 2: we took it pretty seriously.
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  Speaker 1: See, that's one of the things that a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people who are clicking into shows on Netflix and Hulu,
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  Speaker 1: or even going to the movie theater, they don't realize
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  Speaker 1: the amount of time and perspiration that is put into
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  Speaker 1: every project. And it should be something that should be
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  Speaker 1: more respected today instead of, ah, okay. So you did something.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's true. But I mean, it sure beats, uh,
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  Speaker 2: being a migrant worker somewhere and breaking my back. So
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  Speaker 2: I'm not complaining too hard. But this project in particular,
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  Speaker 2: I was not, not fond of doing at all.
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  Speaker 1: What was it that, that drew you closer in? Was it,
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  Speaker 1: was it the money or was it, or was it
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  Speaker 1: the intrigue of wanting to know? Because it's like, because
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the more and more I got into it,
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  Speaker 1: I thought, I thought, oh my God, why have I
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  Speaker 1: never even touched this before?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. The money wasn't a deal, but I'm a big,
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  Speaker 2: a big fan of going after truth. And this was
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  Speaker 2: truth that was either being ignored or just being exploited
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  Speaker 2: by people that are making money. So I figured, OK,
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  Speaker 2: let's let's step in. Let's do something serious, but still
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  Speaker 2: entertaining that that people can rely on. So we wound
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  Speaker 2: up with this.
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  Speaker 1: This film well when you come up with truth like
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  Speaker 1: you were just talking about you know that's going to
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  Speaker 1: ruffle up some feathers that's one of those things where
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  Speaker 1: do you put up the protection guard or is it
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  Speaker 1: that you just say look i'm going to stick to
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  Speaker 1: what i've learned and we're going to go from.
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  Speaker 2: Here yeah probably the protection guard was important in my
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  Speaker 2: 20s and 30s and 40s but Now that I'm in
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  Speaker 2: the 50s and 60s and approaching 70s, I don't give
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  Speaker 2: a rip anymore. If it's true, live with it, baby.
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  Speaker 2: But don't, you know, don't make me lie for you.
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  Speaker 1: One of my favorite things to do is that research.
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  Speaker 1: And so what did you get out of it? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: were there any oh, wow moments that really kind of
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  Speaker 1: changed the leaning of your path?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. No, I came in pretty skeptical. But,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we... We looked at three areas. The first was,
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  Speaker 2: what are these things? The second was, well, at first,
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  Speaker 2: are they real? Yeah. So we spent a lot of
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  Speaker 2: time researching that and discovered that about 1% to 5%
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  Speaker 2: of the sightings are unidentified. Everything else has some sort
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  Speaker 2: of basis. But it's that 5% that kept sticking in
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  Speaker 2: everybody's craw. So our first question was, Are they real?
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  Speaker 2: We did our research. We talked to military dudes. We
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  Speaker 2: saw some congressional reports. The government is starting to say yes.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, just because the government says it doesn't mean
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  Speaker 2: I believe it, but there's a whole bunch of that.
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  Speaker 2: Eyewitnesses came in probably last on our list because eyewitnesses
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  Speaker 2: can be a little unreliable and maybe want to see things. But,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, when you start talking about a minute-man nuclear
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  Speaker 2: missile launch facility being shut down when the things are
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  Speaker 2: hovering over it, then you've got a reason to go, well,
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  Speaker 2: there's something going on. Right. So the first question was,
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  Speaker 2: are they real? And then the second question that we
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  Speaker 2: dealt with is, you know, what are they? And that's
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  Speaker 2: when it started to get a little dicey. You know,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people think … their military, right? It's
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  Speaker 2: a great secret, whatever. Um, well, the only problem is
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  Speaker 2: the Russians and Chinese are having the same issues. So
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  Speaker 2: we're all spying on each other. The second, the second
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  Speaker 2: thing is when we did the research, we saw that
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  Speaker 2: they were, um, it's a pattern that's been throughout human history.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the Bible talks about chariots of fire, uh,
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  Speaker 2: In the 19th century, there were dirgeables and people would
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  Speaker 2: always describe. This is what I found so fascinating. People
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  Speaker 2: would always describe these things in our latest technology. Even
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  Speaker 2: the North American Indians had these canoe rowing entities across
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  Speaker 2: the sky. And the Germans, the whole flying saucer thing
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  Speaker 2: happened when the Germans were playing with something like that,
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  Speaker 2: the form, in World War II in the 40s. That
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  Speaker 2: plus structurally the stuff that these things can do, it
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  Speaker 2: just doesn't work physically. There's no heat signature, no sonic booms,
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  Speaker 2: no control surfaces. So it started to become pretty clear that, no,
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  Speaker 2: we're not dealing with military guys or military issues. So
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  Speaker 2: the second one, and this is the one everybody's jumping
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  Speaker 2: on right now, is, oh, well, maybe they're extraterrestrial, right?
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  Speaker 2: Maybe they're planets and The only problem with that, again,
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  Speaker 2: as we kept kicking the tires, was astronomers don't see anything.
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  Speaker 2: Once in a while, there's some anomaly, but not like
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  Speaker 2: what we're talking about. So the astronomers don't see it.
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  Speaker 2: We talked to some, well, we talked to a lot
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  Speaker 2: of scientists. We talked to sociologists, talked to astrophysicists. You know,
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  Speaker 2: the list goes on. Researchers, theologians, the tin hat crowd.
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  Speaker 2: And so when we're talking about extraterrestrial from other planets
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  Speaker 2: uh we kept running into this thing called the goldilocks
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  Speaker 2: zone which said life as we know it on other
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  Speaker 2: planets is pretty impossible pretty close to impossible nothing's impossible
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  Speaker 2: i get that but we live in this thing called
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  Speaker 2: the goldilocks zone where simultaneously 13 things have to happen
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  Speaker 2: all at the same time oh wow we uh Of course,
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  Speaker 2: the water issue, but the sun has to be steady.
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  Speaker 2: The magnetic field that we have, even the moon that
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  Speaker 2: we have, has to be there to sustain the type
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  Speaker 2: of life. We had one scientist who kind of cut
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  Speaker 2: to the chase, and he said, for the simplest bacterium
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  Speaker 2: on one of the trillions of planets to form, this
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  Speaker 2: is the simplest bacterium, is 10 to the 156th power.
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  Speaker 2: It means nothing to me. What does that mean? And
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  Speaker 2: he said, well, it's similar to winning the California lottery
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  Speaker 2: 60 consecutive times.
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  Speaker 3: Without, and here's the punchline, without ever buying a ticket.
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  Speaker 3: So we started to rule out the extraterrestrial.
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  Speaker 2: Also, the whole business of physics is, I mean, the
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  Speaker 2: stuff is traveling sometimes up to 45,000, 200,000 miles an hour.
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  Speaker 2: And that's good. But light year is much faster than that.
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  Speaker 2: The closest planets that could have any minimal life are
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  Speaker 2: like 25 light years away. So we start to realize
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  Speaker 2: that maybe we're not talking about extraterrestrials. extraterrestrial. And people say, well,
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  Speaker 2: what about, you know, traveling the speed of light? And
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  Speaker 2: you can't do it. Sorry. Sorry. It just, it ain't
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  Speaker 2: going to happen. So they say, well, what about, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the Star Trek and the wormholes and all of this
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  Speaker 2: sort of stuff? And the bottom line is, see if
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  Speaker 2: I got this figure right. The amount of energy it
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  Speaker 2: would take to manipulate, to warp time and space, which
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  Speaker 2: is what everybody talks about these days, is equivalent to
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  Speaker 2: the amount of energy the sun puts out.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, boy.
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  Speaker 2: In 15 trillion years. Wow. So, yeah. So it became
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  Speaker 2: pretty clear that we weren't necessarily dealing with extraterrestrials. So
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  Speaker 2: that leaves us with the... The one that I'm not–
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  Speaker 2: I was the most uneasy about. And that was if
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  Speaker 2: they're not extraterrestrial and they're not military, then that leaves what? Extradimensional?
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  Speaker 2: It's like, come on, this is not Marvel Comics research.
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  Speaker 2: What are we talking about here? But the more we
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  Speaker 2: looked at it and when we talked to astrophysicists, you know,
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  Speaker 2: they're saying mathematically they can prove you and I live
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  Speaker 2: in at least 11 dimensions. Come on. You know, I
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  Speaker 2: get the three, maybe four if you count time.
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  Speaker 1: But 11?
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  Speaker 2: So where are they, dude? And they say, well, they're
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  Speaker 2: right here. What do you mean they're right here? I
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  Speaker 2: can't see them. That's right. Because you can't see into
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  Speaker 2: higher dimensions, idiot. And, you know, they talk about dark
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  Speaker 2: matter and dark energy. 95% of the very room you're
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  Speaker 2: sitting in that I'm sitting in, we don't know what's
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  Speaker 2: in it. You're right. 95, that means 5% of what
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  Speaker 2: you and I call reality in our dimension is all
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  Speaker 2: we can see. So that started building up, you know,
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  Speaker 2: We started realizing that the whole concept, the 5% that
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  Speaker 2: are real, you know, one minute they're there, the next
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  Speaker 2: minute they're not. And, you know, it's like they keep
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  Speaker 2: popping in and out. But that's the same thing as
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  Speaker 2: a lot of religions talk about, right? There's the angels.
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  Speaker 2: They're having dinner with Abe, and now they're gone. There's Jesus, right?
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  Speaker 2: Resurrected body. He pops into the room where the boys are.
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  Speaker 1: That's where they were, the upper room.
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  Speaker 2: And then they say, well, then how could they interact
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  Speaker 2: with the physical world? Well, you know, Jesus said, give
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  Speaker 2: me a piece of food over there. Let me demonstrate.
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  Speaker 2: So the more the evidence pointed in the direction we
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  Speaker 2: were willing to follow, the more we came to the
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  Speaker 2: conclusion that that we are not talking about extraterrestrial beings.
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  Speaker 2: We are talking about extra-dimensional beings, which, wow. So now
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  Speaker 2: we're in new territory. And so the last part of
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  Speaker 2: the film, we really investigate what that means. We start
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  Speaker 2: talking to people that say they have experienced these things.
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  Speaker 2: And we started to see a pattern in this thing.
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  Speaker 2: A pattern that, you know, let's put it in religious
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  Speaker 2: terms and not to, you know, get anybody's underwear in
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  Speaker 2: a bunch. But angels come in two flavors, right? They're
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  Speaker 2: the good guys and the bad guys. Yep, yep. Our
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  Speaker 2: question is, if these are, let's not use the term angels,
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  Speaker 2: let's use higher dimensional creatures. If they do exist, and
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  Speaker 2: they seem to be what's happening here, if they do exist,
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  Speaker 2: what do they want? And the question, Carl Sagan, remember him?
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  Speaker 2: I do. I do. Yeah. He said something which was
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  Speaker 2: really startling because he was not like, you know, a
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  Speaker 2: religious dude or anything. But he said that abductions, these
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  Speaker 2: are the people that claim they are being taken up
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  Speaker 2: into the whatever. Abductions are very similar to medieval beliefs
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  Speaker 2: in demonic possession. Oh, man, really? So the more we
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  Speaker 2: started to poke in, and then we started interviewing people
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  Speaker 2: that were saying they were abducted or that had these experiences.
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  Speaker 2: They're called experiencers. And again, there was this pattern. It's
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  Speaker 2: like they would say, well, we created you. Oh, really?
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  Speaker 1: That's interesting.
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  Speaker 2: We've come to help you. Well, I appreciate that. And
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  Speaker 2: we've come to create you. And, you know, when asked
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  Speaker 2: about various religious leaders, they were okay with them. But
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  Speaker 2: whenever we got to Jesus Christ, they got really, well,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Jesus was a good teacher, but he was delusional,
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  Speaker 2: saying that he was the son. Come on. So they
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  Speaker 2: would go out of their way to discredit the Judeo-beliefs,
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  Speaker 2: the biblical beliefs of And they'd go way out of
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  Speaker 2: their way to discredit Jesus. I mean, Buddha and the
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  Speaker 2: rest of the boys are fine. But when it came
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  Speaker 2: to Jesus, they were not crazy about that.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting.
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  Speaker 2: And what got even more interesting was, and this is
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  Speaker 2: really freaky, was people that are supposedly abducted, it usually
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  Speaker 2: starts in their childhood.
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  Speaker 3: Hmm.
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  Speaker 2: And then it reoccurs over and over again throughout their life.
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  Speaker 2: And it's a terrifying experience, usually. Now, once in a while,
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  Speaker 2: these people say, no, it was a great experience. But
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  Speaker 2: the further you go down in life, you see it's
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  Speaker 2: sort of like chocolate-covered manure that tastes really good at
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  Speaker 2: the beginning, but at the end, it starts to have
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  Speaker 2: a bite to it. So we were talking, we were
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  Speaker 2: interviewing these people, and they were terrified when this would
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  Speaker 2: happen again and again and again. And we said, well,
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  Speaker 2: what do you do? And they said, well, I stopped it.
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  Speaker 2: How did you stop it? Here it comes. We called
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  Speaker 2: on the name of Jesus Christ. Oh, brother, really? No,
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  Speaker 2: we're serious.
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  Speaker 1: Give it to God.
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  Speaker 2: Give it to God. Yeah. And I said, you mean
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  Speaker 2: like what? Like a mantra? No, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: There's a difference between just, you know, chanting the name
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  Speaker 2: and really calling on him from your heart and believing it.
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  Speaker 2: And we talked to some people that have a ministry
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  Speaker 2: that go around and, you know, talk to these folks
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  Speaker 2: that have been abducted or that say they're having these experiences.
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  Speaker 2: And they see again and again and again that the
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  Speaker 2: way to free them from this horrific experience is for
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  Speaker 2: them to make a heartfelt cry to Jesus Christ. The
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  Speaker 2: very dude that the creatures are so freaked out about
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  Speaker 2: that they, you know, discredit all the time. So that's
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  Speaker 2: where the journey took us. Now, you know, we're not
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  Speaker 2: trying to prove anything with the film. We're just laying
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  Speaker 2: out the facts and you come to whatever conclusions you want.
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  Speaker 2: And if you're pissed at me, well, then be pissed
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  Speaker 2: at me. But that's just the way it flies.
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  Speaker 1: The name of the movie is UFOs and God. We'll
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  Speaker 1: be right back with Bill Myers coming up next. This
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  Speaker 1: is a very deep conversation. You're either going to agree
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  Speaker 1: with it or you're not going to agree with it.
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  Speaker 1: Or you might be in the middle or you might
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  Speaker 1: be saying, hey, look, we need to explore this. The
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  Speaker 1: name of the movie is UFOs and God. We are
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  Speaker 1: back with Bill Myers. I always thought that I was
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  Speaker 1: the weird one, being from the state of Montana, that
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  Speaker 1: believed that there was a connection, that there was something
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  Speaker 1: other than God. Because, I mean, I would stare at
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  Speaker 1: that big, mighty, big sky of Montana, and I would
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  Speaker 1: sit there and just say, please talk to me. Talk
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  Speaker 1: to me. I know you're out there. And I've always
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  Speaker 1: been convinced ever since those moments that creative people understand dimensions.
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  Speaker 1: But we don't do the 11 or the 13 dimensions,
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  Speaker 1: or do we?
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  Speaker 2: Just another name for it, huh?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it is, because this is an eye-opener for me, Bill.
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  Speaker 1: It really is, and that's why it's like, if you
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  Speaker 1: don't think I'm not going to be studying everything that
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  Speaker 1: you guys are doing, yes, I will be, because I
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  Speaker 1: want to know, and that's the thing about it. There
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  Speaker 1: are so many of us out here that want to know,
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  Speaker 1: and we want to figure this out.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's what the movie's about. It's 90 minutes... It's
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  Speaker 2: facts and figures, but the genius of our directors were
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  Speaker 2: there also to make it entertaining with a certain amount
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  Speaker 2: of comedy. But that's what we did. We just point
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  Speaker 2: by point, go down the list and come to the
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  Speaker 2: same conclusion, regardless of whether you agree with it or
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  Speaker 2: not is irrelevant to us. We just want to make
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  Speaker 2: sure the facts are out there.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I love the fact that it's going to create maybe,
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  Speaker 1: maybe some conflict. And the reason why it takes me
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  Speaker 1: back to a preacher that came into my studio one
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  Speaker 1: day and there was a book from an atheist that
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  Speaker 1: I was going to interview. And the other people that
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  Speaker 1: were from the church looked at the preacher and said,
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  Speaker 1: what are you doing? That's not what we go for.
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  Speaker 1: And he goes, I have to see what the other
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  Speaker 1: side is talking about. And I thought, that's inspiring. And
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  Speaker 1: that's why I find this to be inspiring, because I
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  Speaker 1: want to know. I want to know who those people are,
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  Speaker 1: what those things are, because there is something there. We
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  Speaker 1: feel it, we see it, and it's not just a
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  Speaker 1: little speck in your eye.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the thing that astonished me was their their
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  Speaker 2: hatred toward Jesus Christ.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's shocking. That was shocking to me.
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  Speaker 2: So that's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's a darn good story, and it's creating conversation.
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  Speaker 1: But how can you explain, though, the hatred toward the J-Man?
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  Speaker 1: Because I don't want judgmental situations to come in, because
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  Speaker 1: I'm that guy that goes, I love all people, every
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  Speaker 1: walk of life. I love every question, every answer. I
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  Speaker 1: love this. I love that.
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  Speaker 3: Why?
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  Speaker 1: Because that's the way I was trained. But does this
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  Speaker 1: put a new wrinkle in the actual fabric?
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  Speaker 2: You'll have to answer that on your own.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, listen to you. I love your heart.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my God, that is so true. Oh my God,
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  Speaker 2: I expected that from you.
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  Speaker 1: That's so funny. But see, I love your transparency because
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: you are, you're giving us the opportunity to carry our
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: own ball home. Not like, oh, can you go get
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: that out of center field? Take it home for me, okay? No,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: you're saying go get the ball yourself and figure this
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: out yourself.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, that's what we're trying to do with
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: the film is just lay the facts out And let
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: you connect the dots. I love that.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: I love that. But are you serious? anything similar between,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: like I mentioned before, creative people play at a different game?
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: We cannot explain it. I've been with rock stars today.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: I was with people from Shark Tank today. None of us,
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: none of us were on the same playing field. But
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: when it comes to creativity, we were all on the
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: same playing field when it came to that art. And
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: it's like, how did we get there? I don't know.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: This is why I'm talking with you today, because I
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: think that you've got something that will help us know
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: and help us understand what it is and where we're growing.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Well, I hope so. It sure helped me.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: So then how do you grow forward then with this
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: wealth of knowledge that you've got? Because there are so
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: many naysayers and it's like, you know, Bill's not going
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: to stand up there with his chest in the air
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: like a DC comic player. You're going to go, here's
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: the thing. I got it for you. I did the research.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Here it is.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: And that's pretty much why I leave it. I got other,
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: you know, fires to put out, other places to go.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: This is the information. This is the best. Like I said,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: we've spent hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars for you.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: This is not like, you know, we're not trying to
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: make a big streaming TV series out of it. We're
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: just laying out the facts and everything. There are now I'm,
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: I've got other stuff to do. So.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Well, where can people go to find out more about
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: this project and to really dive into it? Because what
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I see here. And, and once again,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: I'm not somebody, a man of judgment. What I, I
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: am Christian. My wife is Jewish. What is that common
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: denominator between the two of us? There's something. And that's
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: the thing about it is that you're providing us with
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: that word. Something. There's something that has us together together.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: And I love that. And it gives me the opportunity
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: to find out what out there made this here work
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: or maybe not work for some people.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Yep. Was there a question in that?
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Well, it's more of a statement. And that's one thing
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: I've always learned. Plant the statement and figure out, because
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: I want the listener to always know that I'm thinking
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: about them. They are so important to this conversation, just
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: as much as you are. And that's what I want
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: them to do. And that's why I said, hey, look,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: where can we go to find out more information? Because
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: I want people to support this, to grow with it,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: to activate it, and to push it into an area
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: of the possibilities of their being.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Oh, great. Okay. The name of the movie is UFOs
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: and God.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: It's going to drop on Amazon September 11th or 12th.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: You can certainly go to our website where we're compiling
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: a bunch of information, and it's conveniently called UFOsandGod.com, I believe.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: So all the information is there. The movie is 90 minutes. It's...
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: It's worth it, dude. Again, it's not just boring faction figures.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: There's plenty of entertainment there, but it's all laid out.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: You know, what's really interesting is that you brought up
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: 90 minutes, and we were also talking about the speed
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: of light and how fast that goes. I often wonder
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: if we are trying to emulate the speed of light
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: in the way as human beings, and that 90 minutes
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: to us is really just the blink of an eye.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Well, it's... As we get older, that blink becomes shorter
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: and shorter.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Boy, they don't teach you that in high school, do they?
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: My God, I wish I would have been paying attention
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: in class that day.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Well, Bill, you got to come back to this show
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: anytime in the future because I love where you had
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: the chutzpah to really step into this project. Even though
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: you were challenged, you still accepted it and you did
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: the work. That to me is a real honest to
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: God historian, journalist, as well as broadcaster that you really
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: stepped into that pair of shoes and you wore them.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Oh, well, thank you. Coming from you, Earl, that's a
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: great compliment. Thanks.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Well, please come back to this show anytime, dude. The
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: door is always going to be open for you.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, appreciate that. I'll let you know the next project, Tom.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: You bet. You be brilliant today, okay, sir?
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: You too, man.