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- 0:01Speaker 1: Let's forget this guy's name, Paul Jon Rell spelled Ruelle,
- 0:05Speaker 1: but it's pronounced diron well durn.
- 0:09Speaker 2: Yeah, I just say John Rell.
- 0:11Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. I'm going to totally sound like an idiot to.
- 0:14Speaker 2: Duran Durann.
- 0:24Speaker 3: From The Australian. This is the weekend edition of The Front.
- 0:26Speaker 3: I'm Claire Harvey. It's hard to imagine now, but towards
- 0:32Speaker 3: the end of the nineteenth century, the Impressionists Mone Sizzlely,
- 0:37Speaker 3: Pesaro Sazan were viewed as a band of artistic deplorables.
- 0:42Speaker 3: The term impressionism was itself a dig coined by critic
- 0:47Speaker 3: Louis Leroy. It referred to works now regarded as masterpieces,
- 0:51Speaker 3: as appearing merely as impressions, lacking focus, and feeling incomplete.
- 0:57Speaker 3: If you look at an Impressionist painting now, it feels
- 1:00Speaker 3: to our modern eyes more realistic than what they used
- 1:03Speaker 3: to call realism, the overall feeling of seeing a lake
- 1:07Speaker 3: on a spring morning, rather than just a flat depiction
- 1:10Speaker 3: of shapes and outlines. Every idea needs a backer, and
- 1:15Speaker 3: Impressionism's backer was one man who transformed it from a
- 1:18Speaker 3: fringe movement into one of the most universally loved in
- 1:22Speaker 3: Western art. Chief Culture correspondent Tim Douglas joins me today
- 1:27Speaker 3: to discuss how water lilies went from being radical to
- 1:31Speaker 3: printed on teetols. Tim, I was really interested in your
- 1:46Speaker 3: story in The Australian. You wrote about the Paris Salon
- 1:49Speaker 3: in the eighteen seventies, very powerful institution. I think I
- 1:54Speaker 3: had always thought that if you were an artist, you
- 1:56Speaker 3: were probably unconventional in someone who didn't necessarily play by
- 2:00Speaker 3: society's rules. Turns out I've learned that's a very modern idea,
- 2:04Speaker 3: isn't it.
- 2:04Speaker 1: It is Back in the eighteen seventies until the eighties,
- 2:08Speaker 1: really artists had to be appointed by a jury to
- 2:12Speaker 1: the Academy of Arts and the government itself. They had
- 2:17Speaker 1: to be awarded a medal in order to be officially
- 2:19Speaker 1: sanctioned as an artist.
- 2:21Speaker 2: And once they had that medal, then they.
- 2:22Speaker 1: Could invite potential buyers viewers into their studios to perhaps
- 2:28Speaker 1: acquire their works, a very different way of acquiring works
- 2:32Speaker 1: as opposed to today. And that certainly changed in the
- 2:34Speaker 1: eighteen eighties with one man in particular.
- 2:37Speaker 3: That person was Paul durand Ruel.
- 2:39Speaker 2: Who was he? So, Paul Girondrell is that okay, I
- 2:44Speaker 2: didn't mean to correct you, then please do.
- 2:47Speaker 3: I did German at schools turned out to be absolutely
- 2:50Speaker 3: no use in my life to date. I wish i'd
- 2:53Speaker 3: done French.
- 2:54Speaker 2: Well.
- 2:54Speaker 1: I didn't either, but it was impressed upon me that
- 2:57Speaker 1: that's how it's pronounced, at least in kind of Australian.
- 3:00Speaker 1: Paul Giaronrell was an art dealer in the eighteen seventies
- 3:04Speaker 1: in Paris.
- 3:05Speaker 2: Specifically, his own father.
- 3:11Speaker 1: Ran a gallery, the Gallery Girondrell in Paris, and Paul
- 3:15Speaker 1: Garonrell was particularly inamate of the Barbazon school your Rosso's
- 3:20Speaker 1: also collected de Lacroix during that time. In the eighteen seventies,
- 3:25Speaker 1: he was in London and a lot of artists and
- 3:28Speaker 1: creatives had fled during the Franco Prussian War to London
- 3:31Speaker 1: seeking exile. At that time, a lot of artists, Bonet included,
- 3:36Speaker 1: learned from painters like Constable and Turner about painting light
- 3:41Speaker 1: Money eventually returned to Paris and in eighteen seventy two
- 3:45Speaker 1: painted the work that is regarded as the seminal work
- 3:49Speaker 1: of Impressionism, called impression Sunrise.
- 3:52Speaker 2: It's a painting of Haavara Port.
- 3:55Speaker 1: Beautiful painting that was obviously a very different style to realism.
- 4:00Speaker 2: It was all about light, color and beauty.
- 4:03Speaker 1: When Jeron Well saw this painting at an exhibition that
- 4:07Speaker 1: also included de Gard and Morisseau, he knew that this
- 4:11Speaker 1: was radical. This was something he wanted to be a
- 4:13Speaker 1: part of, and thus began one of the great periods
- 4:16Speaker 1: of acquisition in art history. He went on to own
- 4:19Speaker 1: one thousand more as fifteen hundred renoirs and began to
- 4:23Speaker 1: really foster this art movement, which at the time was
- 4:27Speaker 1: pilloried by the academy and by civil society.
- 4:30Speaker 3: So did he do this kind of outside the confines
- 4:33Speaker 3: of the salon and the establishment.
- 4:35Speaker 2: He went rogue. He went outside the establishment.
- 4:37Speaker 1: He began paying these artists, who previously had relied on
- 4:40Speaker 1: the government for funds. He began providing them with the
- 4:44Speaker 1: stip end. He promised them solo shows, but he demanded exclusivity,
- 4:49Speaker 1: and that was the first time that that had really
- 4:52Speaker 1: reared its head in France at the time, and so
- 4:54Speaker 1: he in exchange for him finding buyers and good prices
- 4:58Speaker 1: for their artwork, he demanded that they abe loyal to him.
- 5:02Speaker 2: Mona was the one exception from that.
- 5:04Speaker 1: He didn't sign over his exclusivity to pauls your o Unreill,
- 5:07Speaker 1: but he has said, you know, without John Rell's support,
- 5:12Speaker 1: he would have died of starvation.
- 5:14Speaker 3: If you look at the Impressionist paintings in the context
- 5:17Speaker 3: of what had come just before, so Romanticism, the Barber's
- 5:21Speaker 3: on school.
- 5:21Speaker 2: That you mentioned.
- 5:22Speaker 3: It was radical, wasn't it. But yet when we were
- 5:26Speaker 3: growing up, you and I, Impressionism was kind of naff.
- 5:29Speaker 3: It was on details and fridge magnets and chocolate boxes,
- 5:33Speaker 3: money's water lilies and here's a set of four really
- 5:37Speaker 3: beautiful station items. We'll start with the address book quarter lilies.
- 5:41Speaker 3: That's six pounds fifty and you can see that it
- 5:46Speaker 3: was Why did Impressionism go from being understood as radical
- 5:50Speaker 3: and different, challenging to being considered so conventional It was
- 5:54Speaker 3: almost embarrassing.
- 5:55Speaker 1: It was radical, but so was the world at that point.
- 5:58Speaker 1: Things were changing, you know, it's becoming a more globalized society.
- 6:01Speaker 1: There were opportunities overseas for artists to make their name,
- 6:04Speaker 1: which is what happened with the Impressionists when John Rell
- 6:06Speaker 1: took them to New York and found buyers for them
- 6:09Speaker 1: and an audience that actually appreciated the work. And the
- 6:12Speaker 1: difference it swings in roundabouts really with art movements, And
- 6:16Speaker 1: of course what it did do was lay the ground
- 6:18Speaker 1: for the abstract movement which would come after the twenties,
- 6:22Speaker 1: and contemporary art and modern art, and you know where
- 6:24Speaker 1: we find ourselves today.
- 6:26Speaker 2: But what we can say is that that.
- 6:28Speaker 1: Movement, that Impressionist movement, is probably the defining era for
- 6:33Speaker 1: art over the last couple of hundred years, because it
- 6:35Speaker 1: did open the doors for so many artists and so
- 6:38Speaker 1: many conversations about what art is and how people or
- 6:42Speaker 1: places should be represented.
- 6:44Speaker 3: Did it become popular Impressionism straight away once it kind
- 6:47Speaker 3: of was revealed to the world, or was it this
- 6:49Speaker 3: one individual kind of continuing to believe that allowed them
- 6:53Speaker 3: to do these works.
- 6:54Speaker 1: It was Paul Jonrel who spent twenty years from the
- 6:58Speaker 1: eighteen seventies to the eighteen night and he's trying to
- 7:00Speaker 1: convince people in Paris and France that this art was
- 7:03Speaker 1: worthy and that it was something. He got his own
- 7:06Speaker 1: printing press and began printing his own journals and hiring
- 7:09Speaker 1: critics to basically write advertorials about his philosophy and why
- 7:13Speaker 1: this was important. When he couldn't find buyers as I said,
- 7:16Speaker 1: he opened a gallery in New York, found an art
- 7:19Speaker 1: market there. It didn't take long for Europe to catch up,
- 7:23Speaker 1: and indeed France and then Jiondrell finally had found his
- 7:29Speaker 1: market and his lifelong goal of making these artists something
- 7:35Speaker 1: and conveying their message to the world was realized.
- 7:39Speaker 3: Durand Rouell's vision has arrived in Australia. My name is
- 7:44Speaker 3: Marion Matthew. I'm a French artist, sauriant.
- 7:48Speaker 2: What a pleasure, what an opportunity to bring here at
- 7:52Speaker 2: the Geelong.
- 7:53Speaker 3: Gary Discovering the Impressionists, a vast exhibition of over seventy
- 7:59Speaker 3: works Money, Morrissol and Renoir, alongside some lesser known artists,
- 8:05Speaker 3: is now open at the Geelong Gallery and runs every
- 8:08Speaker 3: day until October eleven.
- 8:11Speaker 1: Seeing some of these works, especially in a regional setting,
- 8:15Speaker 1: it's a great cupe for Geelong Gallery to have this
- 8:19Speaker 1: sensational exhibition curated by two of the world's foremost Pissarro
- 8:23Speaker 1: and Monet experts, respectively. Why I think it's really important
- 8:28Speaker 1: to have it in that regional setting is that that
- 8:31Speaker 1: is where these artists did their best work enplanaire. Monet
- 8:35Speaker 1: himself fled the city for Javerni and found his passion
- 8:40Speaker 1: for nature in the regions. I think it's amazing that
- 8:44Speaker 1: these works are in Geelong, and having stood in front
- 8:47Speaker 1: of a couple of them over the weekend, I felt
- 8:50Speaker 1: that visceral kind of emotion. And I think part of
- 8:54Speaker 1: it is the fact that you're seeing these works in Australia,
- 8:57Speaker 1: but you're also seeing them in the sort of environs
- 8:59Speaker 1: in which they'll. Let's take Manday for example, he began
- 9:03Speaker 1: painting the haystacks. What he realized was that he could
- 9:07Speaker 1: make light the subject of his paintings. So when you
- 9:10Speaker 1: see those paintings of haystacks, it's almost like a geometric formation.
- 9:14Speaker 1: He began painting series of work, so he painted multiple
- 9:17Speaker 1: of these works at different times of the day and
- 9:20Speaker 1: realized that light could change the way we view things.
- 9:24Speaker 3: Even within the Impressionist movement, there were people pushing that idea,
- 9:28Speaker 3: weren't there. Renoir was different in what he painted and
- 9:31Speaker 3: the way he saw the treatment of light, right.
- 9:34Speaker 1: That's right, yeah, And Renoi obviously a more romantic sort
- 9:37Speaker 1: of painter, closer to that realism we spoke about earlier.
- 9:41Speaker 1: I mean, I just happened to I'm going to drop
- 9:43Speaker 1: this and it's going to sound very wanky, indeed, but
- 9:45Speaker 1: I was just at Misai d'Orsay a couple of weeks ago,
- 9:49Speaker 1: and there's two fantastic Renoi exhibitions there. Why I think
- 9:54Speaker 1: they're so interesting is that we see there's a drawing
- 9:57Speaker 1: exhibition and then painting exhibition, and so you can see
- 10:00Speaker 1: the way in which he constructs these images, and they
- 10:03Speaker 1: are images of beauty and almost saccherin in their reproduction,
- 10:09Speaker 1: but there is still a great element of joy in
- 10:14Speaker 1: those images and light, and so I found it really
- 10:18Speaker 1: really wonderful. And this exhibition, too, in Geelong, has a
- 10:23Speaker 1: number of impressionists that you've never heard of. So there's
- 10:25Speaker 1: an entire second generation of impressionists who Gerondrell also fostered,
- 10:31Speaker 1: who were friends with the first generation. So there's an
- 10:34Speaker 1: artist called Albert Andre who became Renoi's closest friend, and Renoy,
- 10:40Speaker 1: in his declining years, really kind of mentored the young Andre,
- 10:44Speaker 1: and so it's really interesting to see the relationships they had,
- 10:47Speaker 1: and they were real friendships, real generous mentor and mentee relationships,
- 10:53Speaker 1: and I think you can kind of see that love
- 10:55Speaker 1: in the paintings we're.
- 10:56Speaker 3: Kind of back at a point now where artists rely
- 11:00Speaker 3: on government subsidies to work.
- 11:02Speaker 4: A boost tonight for Australia's multi billion dollar art sector,
- 11:05Speaker 4: with the Albernesi government launching its Cultural policy to help
- 11:10Speaker 4: an industry creative.
- 11:10Speaker 3: Australia is responsible for giving out grants. Some of those
- 11:13Speaker 3: are very controversial, of course, as always art at the
- 11:17Speaker 3: center of a political storm. Australia's Peak Arts body grilled
- 11:21Speaker 3: for axing the team it's selected for next year's Venice
- 11:24Speaker 3: be and Nully. I wonder now how the interaction of
- 11:29Speaker 3: that kind of official source of funding and artistic freedom.
- 11:34Speaker 3: How you consider that. Whenever we read about an art
- 11:38Speaker 3: grant being given, it's usually in the context of there
- 11:40Speaker 3: being some kind of controversy, And my impression from the
- 11:43Speaker 3: outside is that the controversy is usually a God, they've
- 11:47Speaker 3: given it to yet another woke person who's got exactly
- 11:50Speaker 3: the same kind of group think as the people who
- 11:52Speaker 3: are giving out the grants. That there's not a lot
- 11:54Speaker 3: of challenge going on. That's the narrative that we read about.
- 11:57Speaker 3: What's your sense of what government funding is doing to art?
- 12:01Speaker 1: The real problem in Australia with these peer given grants
- 12:04Speaker 1: is that the pool is so small. It really is
- 12:07Speaker 1: quite small compared to the rest of the world. There's
- 12:10Speaker 1: only a finite amount of money that can go around,
- 12:12Speaker 1: and so I think there is a reckoning underway at
- 12:18Speaker 1: the moment about how better we might award those monies.
- 12:23Speaker 4: One of the countries most experienced and respected cultural leaders
- 12:26Speaker 4: has called for a funding free He is an urgent
- 12:29Speaker 4: review into Creative Australia. This is the mob that hands
- 12:31Speaker 4: out government grants to the arts. It used to be
- 12:34Speaker 4: called the Australia Council. Lynden Terracini is the former artistic
- 12:38Speaker 4: director of Opera Australia.
- 12:40Speaker 1: And Lynden Teracini shout out to me earlier in the
- 12:43Speaker 1: year we had a story about it, saying the peer
- 12:45Speaker 1: review system needs to go and we need to find
- 12:48Speaker 1: better ways of doing it. He didn't really offer a
- 12:51Speaker 1: better way, of course, to make that work, but what
- 12:53Speaker 1: he was saying was that it's not working at the moment.
- 12:57Speaker 1: All I know from reporting on the sector is that
- 12:59Speaker 1: there are loads of Australian artists out there who find
- 13:03Speaker 1: it very difficult to get that funding and to make
- 13:06Speaker 1: a living as an artist.
- 13:08Speaker 3: The lesson maybe from Paul Duran Royal is is that
- 13:12Speaker 3: pronunciation again?
- 13:13Speaker 2: Who knows?
- 13:15Speaker 3: Is that maybe sometimes you need a visionary, you know,
- 13:18Speaker 3: who's prepared to just piss everybody off to make it possible.
- 13:22Speaker 3: But if that person doesn't have money, things never change.
- 13:25Speaker 3: You're never going to advance art.
- 13:28Speaker 1: The interesting thing about gerond Rell is that he almost
- 13:31Speaker 1: went bankrupt multiple times. He didn't have that money until
- 13:35Speaker 1: you know, he was established in the early twentieth century,
- 13:38Speaker 1: and so he kind of stated not only his reputation
- 13:41Speaker 1: but his bank account and his family's finances on the
- 13:44Speaker 1: future of these artists. And so I think that's a
- 13:47Speaker 1: great point that you probably need someone willing to risk
- 13:49Speaker 1: it all to break open that new frontier, and certainly
- 13:53Speaker 1: he was the one that did it in the late
- 13:56Speaker 1: nineteenth century.
- 13:57Speaker 3: Well, I can't wait to see the show thanks to him.
- 13:59Speaker 2: Thanks Glen.
- 14:04Speaker 3: Tim Douglas is chief Culture correspondent at The Australian. You
- 14:07Speaker 3: can read his article on Paul Juran Ruel and the
- 14:11Speaker 3: Impressionists in the Culture section of The Australian, available in
- 14:14Speaker 3: every weekend paper or online at Theaustralian dot com dot
- 14:18Speaker 3: u slash culture. This episode of The front was hosted
- 14:21Speaker 3: by me Claire Harvey and produced by Jasper League. Our
- 14:24Speaker 3: team also includes Kristin Amiot, Lee at Sammaglue, Tiffany Dimack,
- 14:28Speaker 3: and Joshua Burton.