Transcript

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I'm Stephanie.
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I'm Meredith.
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Welcome to This Is My Circus.
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I'm so glad Rex is moving around a little bit better.
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Oh my gosh.
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So I took him to the vet.
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Yep.
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And well, he had to get his shots and all the stuff.
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Yeah.
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Um, I just started going to York vet.
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and they are wonderful.
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Good.
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Amazing.
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Like every single person I encountered there was fabulous.
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Good.
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Was this your first visit with them?
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Okay.
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So, I told you he was having trouble getting up and moving around and, he couldn't get into the car and you had to see me trying to get him.
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Oh, it's more than he used to have.
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But he did great when we got there.
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I was like, a little bit nervous.
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he likes little dogs, but he doesn't necessarily do great with bigger dogs.
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So I didn't know how it was set up.
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Yeah, there was gonna be a lot of dogs there.
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What was going on?
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Yeah.
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So he did wonderful.
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Of course he did.
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He did great for his shots and all that kind of stuff.
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And then, They brought him back into the room after, they did all his testing and whatever.
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And I'm sitting there and this girl comes in and she's like, I just have to tell you, he's the sweetest dog.
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He'd sit on the floor, just like, you know, separating stuff.
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She's like, he came over and just sat right in front of me and was like, give me some love.
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Oh, that's so, I am not surprised one bit.
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I was like, yeah, he's really sweet.
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Not surprised one bit.
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he, he is super sweet.
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And I was going to ask you if he had like all of the vet techs like falling in love with him.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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He's super chill and they're like, we wish that he could train all of our other clients on how to behave.
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He is.
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So I still cannot believe that.
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That you guys found him like I still cannot believe as he's the goodest boy.
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I say it all the time Like he was sent from up above.
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Yeah, somebody sent me him when I needed him.
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Yeah 100 percent absolutely, like he saved me as much as I saved him.
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So Yes, I adore him.
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He's the goodest boy.
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They said um, I think yeah dysplasia they gave us anti inflammatory Good some pain meds and two weeks of restriction, which he has not been happy about You I bet he's doing a lot of huffing at you, huh?
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We have like a path that we take every day.
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Like a routine of our walk.
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And so we've only been doing one block instead of like the whole neighborhood.
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And so he keeps trying to like call me to go for the rest of the walk.
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And I'm like, dude, we can't.
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But he's doing awesome.
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He can get in the car again.
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And I don't have to like try to like heave him up.
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Yeah.
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Oh, I'm glad, babies.
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Well, I'm glad he already looks like he's moving a lot better from just a few days ago.
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Okay, now back to recording.
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Sorry.
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You know where my priorities lie.
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Okay.
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So you listened to our book.
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I did.
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Okay.
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So I had thought I had listened to this before and I had not.
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Once I got into it, I was like, yeah, this is not familiar at all.
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So, so I listened to it right when it first released as an audio book, okay.
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And it all started coming back Um, do you have the blurb?
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I do.
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All right.
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So we read none of this is true by Lisa Jewel.
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Mm hmm.
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Celebrating her 45th birthday at her local pub, popular podcaster, Alex.
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That's a hard, that's a tongue twister.
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Yeah.
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Podcaster at her local pub, popular podcaster.
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Yeah, that's really difficult.
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Popular podcaster Alex Simmer crosses paths with an unassuming woman called Josie Fair.
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Josie, it turns out, is also celebrating her 45th birthday.
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They are, in fact, birthday twins.
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A few days later, Alex and Josie bump into each other again, this time outside Alex's children's school.
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Josie has been listening to Alex's podcast and thinks she might be an interesting subject for her series.
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She is, she tells Alex, on the cusp of great changes in her life.
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Josie's life appears to be strange and complicated, and although Alex finds her unsettling, she can't quite resist the temptation to keep making the podcast.
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Slowly, she starts to realize that Josie has been hiding some very dark secrets, and before she knows it, Josie has inveigled her way into Alex's life.
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And into her home.
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That's a really weird word.
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That is a weird word in bagel Don't think I have either But nagel.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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That's a weird.
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Okay way to say it.
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Okay Uh, but as quickly as she arrived josie disappears Only then does alex discover that josie has left a terrible and terrifying legacy in her wake And that alex has become the subject of her own true crime podcast with her life and her family's lives under mortal threat So off the top In retrospect, after reading this book, it reminds me of Verity a little bit because I felt like I never knew what was going on.
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Yeah.
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Even at the end, you're still left with a, what happened?
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That's exactly how I feel.
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Yeah.
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I still feel like, what?
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Like what?
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I really feel like I need to go back and listen to it again.
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I don't think it still wouldn't.
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I don't think give you the answers you're looking for.
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And I think that the author did that on purpose I think that it was intentionally left that way to Give you that like mind.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I'm very unsatisfied with this book.
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Like, I don't, yeah, I don't have, and not that I necessarily want a good warm feeling after every book, cause some books just are better if they don't in that way, but I just feel.
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Why the book's not done.
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Okay.
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so you mentioned that you weren't a fan of Josie.
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No.
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So, and I really thought it was going to go a different way.
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I'm glad I re listened to it cause I would not have remembered everything.
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well, there was so much effort.
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Yes.
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what did you think of Jesse?
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Well, at first I felt terrible for her.
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I mean, I really felt she was the victim of these abuses and circumstances that were just terrible.
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And I felt that her life had just spiraled and she was quote in too deep to, you know, to address any of these things.
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Like, I really felt bad for her.
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She sucked me in.
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Like, I really thought that she was the victim of, um, um, Being groomed by an abuser and then taken advantage of by the abuser and then her family I felt bad for her and then of course that flipped and now I don't know how I feel about her so yeah, she really she drew me in okay, so I really thought It was gonna go a different way.
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I thought She was going to try to take over Alex's life.
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Like when she moved in and kind of wouldn't leave and yeah, I kind of felt that was going to come too.
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I thought she was going to try to seduce the husband.
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I thought she was going to do all these other things that she didn't do, which I was happy because then I was going to hate her even more.
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And I didn't want to go down that road.
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There's only so much hate.
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But, um, What a great time for a pandemic for Josie, when all this is happening because you can hide in plain sight, you have a mask on all the time.
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Um, right.
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Not that there's ever a good timing.
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That was just a great camouflage for her with it being that time.
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Yeah.
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And even, I mean, hopefully there's no criminals that listen to our show, but I mean, but even now, you know, it's still not uncommon to see people wearing masks three years.
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After the fact, I don't even question it anymore.
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Do you follow the your county, sheriff page or the police page.
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So, and they put all the people that, like, the shoplifters like wanted and they're all wearing masks.
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Are they?
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Again You're so used to seeing people in masks that it does it's not a thing about it and it's the perfect way to cover up Yeah I remember back when like bird flu was first a thing and we would see pictures from like China and videos of people wearing masks and we Thought they were the weirdest things in the world and then all of a sudden fuse later here We all were messed up, but yeah But yeah, you're right.
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It was a good way for her to, like you said, hide in plain sight and just wear that mask and be out and about.
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Yeah.
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I had a lot of feelings about the letter that, Josie sent at the end.
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Um, I thought it was gross that she was almost yelling at her for being upset and putting this out there she's like, well, you can't be mad at me because it was an accident that I, Did this, right.
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Um, no, like, like, yeah, it was so like, I, it was so like entitled and like, right.
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Narcissistic and it just made me mad.
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Yeah.
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I, I hated a lot of the things that she did.
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Like I said, she really sucked me in and made me think that she was the victim of all these things.
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And then she made her children victims.
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She, almost like a, what's it called?
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Something by proxy.
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Almost like a Munchausen's by proxy, but just spreading lies about victimization and stuff like that.
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And it upset me because I felt like the things that, that this mom made dirty.
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For lack of a better word, were pure moments and with the dad and the daughter.
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But was it?
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But, right.
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Yeah.
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So that was my next question.
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Yeah.
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Do you think that Erin was abused, her daughter?
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I don't know.
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I still, and maybe that's why I just feel so unsettled about it because I don't know.
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What do you think?
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I think she was.
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And here, listen, hear me out.
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Okay.
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They said that the dad was in her room all the time helping her with her streaming and writing comments But when the other streamers came forward looking for aaron They said it was always silent and that's why they knew something was wrong because they heard a commotion So if dad was in the background all the time commenting and like being like goofy then They wouldn't have said it was always silent all the time.
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Yeah So I don't believe that side of it.
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I don't believe he was helping her also, like what was he doing on his computer all the time?
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Yeah, that was iffy too.
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He's old and he's retired and he was constantly on his computer.
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I thought it was gonna come out that it was like bad things.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, but they never touched on that.
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I thought that that was going to have a piece of the book of like confirming at the end, maybe.
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but again, maybe that's why I feel so because there's no hard evidence.
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So also like with like the baby food, like baby food and stuff.
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Yes.
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It's almost like she was regressing, regressing.
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Um, and I know that they said that she had, Autism.
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Yes.
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but I think that it was like a regression from abuse, which is what she said initially, which was, that was what she had said.
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So it's like she was, she was some of her stuff true.
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Yeah.
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And so I'm not, well, and think about this too.
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I mean, she did marry dude when she was really young.
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I mean, right.
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So he already was, you know, uh, Bad guy.
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So also the smells coming from her, right?
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Yes.
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If she was being abused a lot of people when they are Being abused in that way stop taking care of themselves to try to be repulsive Oh, yeah, that's a good the abuser between that and just depression.
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Yeah you're right.
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Yeah, you're right It points to it.
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I mean, I could be totally off, but yeah, well, I think it's kind of like open ended make your own assumptions, but you convinced me.
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I mean, that obviously didn't take much, but, um, but yeah, no, you're right.
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And it is so hard because I do want everything Josie said to be a lot because that's, that was kind of the feeling that you got after things started coming to light, but I guess she wasn't.
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Which makes it hard hate her.
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I still think the whole kidnapping and oh yeah, like I still there's still plenty to hate.
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Who do you think killed Brooke?
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Do you think it was Josie?
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Oh, I think it was Roxy.
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No, I think it was Roxy.
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I do too.
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Okay, 100.
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Yeah, and so that leads me to believe that when she was telling Alex, Don't believe anything that you're hearing.
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You're gonna hear all this stuff about me.
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Yeah, she knew her daughter was Psycho and she knew and so besides the kidnapping and the quote unquote, accidental death, right.
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Was everything else like legit because Alex met her mom, Alex met Josie's mom and immediately said this is a narcissist.
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right.
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Kids don't come out of this type of relationship with a narcissistic parent unscathed.
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Yeah.
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So I.
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Almost want to say like at least 70 percent of what Josie said was legit.
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It was just everything else that she said and did that made her so like the staying in the house and not wearing her own clothes that were right there.
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That was so weird to me.
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Like that, your face is just, yeah, that was just so like Fine, let me borrow some clothes while mine get washed.
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I really appreciate it, but as soon as, I'm changing back into mine and washing yours for you.
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Do you think that's because hers were bloody?
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And she didn't want to put them back on because they had the blood of No, I think she was just messed up in the head.
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I know she was messed up.
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Yeah, because she had washed her clothes.
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Her phone case belonged to When the cops were returning the things and they said they had extra Yes! Who else was like no but that that was another like easter egg not even an easter egg what is it called where there's a wtf oh a red herring yeah The whole thing was.
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I know.
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This book was, and it was actually kind of hard to follow towards the end because it, I felt like it did go so many places.
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Yeah.
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I had a little bit of struggle.
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I think the accents threw me off with that one.
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I don't know why.
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What was with the denim?
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Like the constant wearing of the denim?
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I don't know.
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I thought that it was kind of a bigger like significance.
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I did too.
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And I thought there was going to be like a human body made of denim or something.
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And then what did you think of Josie's mom telling everybody that that was her boyfriend first and that Josie stole him?
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That was, I think that she liked William and he didn't want her.
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Yeah, I think that was her in her narcissistic way of spinning the story that, That's why they were they didn't get together.
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Well, when she first started saying it, I was like, Oh, well, that makes like I started to believe her.
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Maybe I'm just really gullible.
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Like I didn't even know I was just all over the place with trying to figure out what was true and what was not It would make a really good movie You It would, it would make a really good movie, a lifetime movie.
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Not like a theater movie.
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yeah, the whole thing left me, like I said, unsatisfied, confused, not sure what.
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But you know what made me super sad, but like aww, was that he was not trying to hook up with all these people while he was like having all these benders.
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Like he was like truly, truly in love with her.
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Yeah.
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And then that made it even more sad.
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Yeah, yeah, agreed.
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For his demise.
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Yeah, agreed.
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I don't drink a lot.
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rarely, rarely, but I just couldn't imagine that lifestyle of just, well, he's just on a bender.
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He'll call me when he comes home yeah.
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Wondering if he's going to come home and be stressed.
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Where is he?
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I could not imagine.
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Yeah.
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I couldn't imagine the hangout right there.
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I don't drink very often either.
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It's like once in a very, very blue.
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but yeah every time I, I have drank, I'm the next day, I'm like, this isn't even worth it.
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I'm too old for this.
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Right.
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I do not bounce back like I used to in my early twenties.
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What did you rate the book?
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Oh, I don't know.
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I don't, I didn't, I mean, I liked it, but didn't like it.
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If that makes sense, probably a six.
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Like I wouldn't recommend it to anybody.
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I don't feel good about it I didn't like the book, but I don't think it was poorly written.
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I think it was a cool story.
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I just think that I didn't like it.
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Did you not like the writing style of the double twists?
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No, I was okay with that, but I just felt like we didn't wrap up enough at the end for me to feel satisfied as it just worked.
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It just keeps coming to mind.
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Like I don't want warm and fuzzies, like I said all the time, but just to feel like.
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some kind of conclusion.
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Or even if they left you hanging in a good way, like that book we read a few weeks ago, you know, with the twist at the end, when they uncovered some bodies and then they had the, the, the sequel that came out, that was just like, Oh, I want more.
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This is just like, uh, You know what I did like about the ending though?
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What that was towards the end was how Alex ended the podcast of calling her the basic V Yeah.
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And that like really triggered her Josie.
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Josie to write the, yeah.
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Yeah.
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and then when she was on the bus at the end and the girls were talking about how it got made into a Netflix series.
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Mm-Hmm.
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and they.
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actually believed Josie.
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So I think yeah, I liked the book.
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I don't know if I would read it again, again, because I, again, again, well, I read it again.
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But I don't know if I would be like, oh my God, I need to read this again.
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but I thought it was okay, I'd say like six or seven.
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Yeah.
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I think it's like a good, like beach summer read.
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Okay.
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I'm gonna read it again.
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And I'll let you know what I think after it, because maybe I just got, I don't know.
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I don't mind like the double twist and that kind of thing.
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I don't know.
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So read it if you want to.
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Neither one of us would like pay you to read it.
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But, I looked at our list and there was holds on several of them that we couldn't get for a while.
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So, because of the wait list, we're going to do, did you hear about kitty car by crystal Smith?
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Paul, you got it.
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Perfect.
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I said that.
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So great.
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Um, so did you, I thought I found this so funny.
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Like, it just made me giggle that Ozzy Osbourne was complaining.
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I about Britney Spears Instagram, and then he's sick of seeing her dance.
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Oh my gosh.
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Are you serious?
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That is hilarious.
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First of all, um, the fact that he has Instagram and he looks at it enough to get sick of somebody.
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I thought it was, it just tickled me.
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That is great.
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It was so funny.
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That is great.
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Would not have pictured him as, you being a Britney follower, so then I haven't been on Instagram in forever other than just to post.
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And so I went to go look at her Instagram and you know, I love Britney.
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Yeah.
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I am huge fan, but I just want her to get her bikini bottoms.
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Let me see a little bit bigger, a little bit bigger.
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Cause I just look like they're like almost about to fall off.
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They look like they're like a little kids that she's just trying to like get on.
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You know what I mean?
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Like they're like this big.
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Yeah.
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And like, they don't.
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I don't know.
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She always has, is she still doing the hip thing where they're like really low on her hips?
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Is that so?
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Yeah.
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And it looks like if she turns around, her crack's gonna be hanging out.
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Yeah.
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Well, and it probably is, but I feel like she should know that that's not the trend anymore.
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There was one, and I don't think that that's her.
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Again, I think, I think she's missing.
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I don't know.
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I don't want to believe that that's her because it doesn't look like her.
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But.
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I, yeah.
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She had one video, she's like my first, high waist bikini, and it was like, like a regular, like bikini.
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It was not the, it wasn't like a high waist of the, you know, whatever.
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Which, those are so cute.
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They don't like the pinups.
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They're not flattering on me, but they are adorable for those, those bath suits in general.
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So you still think, you think Brittany's a, that's an ai.
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I, I don't think, well, I don't know if it's an ai.
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I think that there's probably look alike that you have out there do whatever.
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It just doesn't look like her.
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Like her face structure doesn't to me look like her.
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well I brought up AI.
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So let me tell you a funny story.
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Okay.
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So the Bojangles and Clover has started using like AI for its drive thru.
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It's pretty fancy.
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so he talks to you.
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Yes.
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So, you know, welcome to Bojangles.
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How can we help you?
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And you tell them you're ordering, you get tenders.
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They ask what sauce you, I mean, they do.
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It does it all.
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It freaks me out.
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The first time was really bad.
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Like, I just stared slack jaw at the drive thru thing and was like, whatever.
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So, okay, Jackson's a big boy.
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He likes to get, it's a four piece snack, which all that is is four Supremes.
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And then sometimes he gets two of those and no fries or anything.
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Well today he wanted Two of those and then like a small bow round.
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Cool.
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Got it So I get to the drive thru and it's AI and it freaks me out and I don't know I guess I ordered The four piece snack a four piece snack with bow round the end like that's all I said Well, I get to the window and she hands me two drinks and You I texted Jackson while I was waiting on the order and I was like, bro, I don't know what I just ordered.
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because AI scares me, and little freaks me out.
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So I just got two drinks and he said, what did you order?
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I said, I have no idea.
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It ended up being right.
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I don't know why we got drinks, but we went with it and they were drinks we like, like he likes peak lemonade and it was Dr.
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Pepper for me.
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But I didn't even order anything and there were no drinks in my order.
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Mind reading?
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I guess it's just too much.
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Was there somebody before you or after you?
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No.
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Oh, that's weird.
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It was really weird.
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And it is a lady.
19:45
I wonder why they have ladies and not men voices.
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Well, you can change, your Siri voice to a man.
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That's true.
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And, like, the accents and stuff.
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That's true.
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So.
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Maybe they did like a, focus group and focus group said which one's the most like welcoming or whatever.
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Yeah.
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That's true.
20:01
Speaking of focus group, did you see the thing I tagged you in about the focus group jury?
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Yes.
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They pay you to be a jury?
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Why can't we?
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I filled out the form.
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Did you really?
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I did.
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So they're in person ones are only in three locations in South Carolina.
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And they're all, Kind of far away, but they also do online focus group juries.
20:23
So, it said to fill it out.
20:24
And then if anything becomes available for you that they will reach out, you know, now that you said that I've actually done this before.
20:31
Really?
20:32
Yes.
20:33
So, a friend of mine works at a lawyer in, North Carolina, and they were looking for, focus group out of South Carolina because that's where that stuff was going to get, whatever, where the, the suit was.
20:47
And it was very interesting.
20:49
It was very, very interesting.
20:51
I need to follow up and see what happened with that case, it was, um, really interesting because Like the lawyer said, like, okay, this is the story and very high level.
21:01
This is the story.
21:02
And then he was like, okay, same story, but add this to it.
21:07
And then everybody gave their opinion and then.
21:10
Same story, but add this to it and like kept going in more detail over what happened.
21:14
It was very interesting.
21:16
Yeah And it was in person.
21:18
No, it was online.
21:19
It was virtual when I was looking at it It said that if you did like the friday one because it was shorter hours It was like four hours It was like a hundred dollar payment and then saturday was a full eight hours and that was like a two hundred dollar payment I think okay, but I was like that is so cool Yeah, I think I got like 50 bucks or something like that for it Which I mean it was just a neat thing to be a part of yeah the story was to that.
21:40
that was a wreck and trying to figure out who was at fault, but come to find out the person that was driving the vehicle was not from the state and somebody else had rented the vehicle for them.
21:51
they were not a licensed driver.
21:54
So they were like, okay, whose fault is it?
21:56
Is it the person who hit them?
21:58
Is it the person who rented the vehicle or is it the, oh, and they were contracted through a church for like a fleet of vehicles.
22:04
So it was like, is the church fault?
22:06
Is the rental facility at fault?
22:07
Like who do you think is at fault?
22:08
So it just kinda, it started with like, do you think that they are at fault for hitting this person?
22:13
And you're like, well, yeah.
22:14
And then you start hearing all this, like, well, they shouldn't have even had a.
22:17
Yeah, car.
22:18
Anyway, so it was, it was pretty cool.
22:21
I've said this before.
22:21
I don't want to be responsible for somebody's future of jail or not jail.
22:26
Right.
22:27
That whole thing freaks me out.
22:28
Yeah.
22:30
that Aubrey Wyatt case.
22:32
Yes.
22:33
So the mom had her hearing yesterday to get her social media back.
22:36
She did get it back.
22:37
Good.
22:37
They lifted the ban.
22:38
the other four families dropped the extra, whatever case, the criminal case that they were trying to go against her for slander.
22:46
but.
22:47
It's not over because they left it open where they can go back and re file more charges against her and they said that they were Going after civil matters or something Yeah But I think that they're just trying to wait until everything dies down online And then try to sneak it in under the radar so they don't get all the heat.
23:05
She did like a live yesterday on TikTok I got teary.
23:08
She was like, I can't thank you guys enough when I can speak for my baby.
23:12
You all did it for me.
23:13
Oh heck yeah.
23:15
So she's like, the power of community and I can't thank my community enough for being there when I couldn't be there.
23:22
So that's awesome.
23:23
Such a wonderful, lovely message that she put out totally.
23:28
So, yeah, good for her.
23:30
Yeah.
23:30
Yeah.
23:30
For Heather.
23:31
It's not over because I'm going to come after her again.
23:33
Yes.
23:35
Something like that.
23:35
I feel like it's never going to be over.
23:36
No.
23:38
Speaking of hating people.
23:39
Did you see all these people that we said last week, saying all these like super hateful things about, The attempted assassination of Trump, and saying like they missed or, you know, a couple of centimeters over.
23:52
Right.
23:53
They're all losing their jobs.
23:54
A lot of them lost their jobs.
23:55
Really?
23:56
because, of course, everything on you put out on the Internet is there for everybody to see.
24:02
So, there was several people.
24:03
I've seen at least like 10, 10 different.
24:05
Stories on this, in the past week of people losing their jobs because of what they're putting out there on the internet.
24:11
That's crazy.
24:12
That is crazy.
24:13
okay.
24:14
So the secret service guy that took out the shooter, right.
24:20
He.
24:21
Asked for clearance for two minutes to take the dude out and his superiors refused to give him clearance to take the guy out.
24:30
He had him in his line of sight for two minutes.
24:33
Did not get the okay from his superiors he said, I have, I was asking for clearance and was told, no.
24:42
I'm kind of speechless.
24:43
Right.
24:45
So they just don't, I mean, I guess it's kind of good that they just don't have free reign to, if they feel like there's a threat to whatever, but who are you asking?
24:52
If you're the head of the secret service, who are you asking for clearance from?
24:55
HM47 or whatever, right.
24:56
People are building with the.
24:58
President or and with all the other people.
25:01
I mean, what if he just would have opened fire?
25:04
Yeah on everybody But we were all like, how did they not have him in sight?
25:07
How did they not see him before?
25:09
He didn't give the green light him, but he they were refused For him to yeah, that's cuckoo.
25:15
I didn't know that.
25:16
Yeah, so it makes you just really think like This was really yeah side job Yeah, I think I mean the more that comes out about it the more I just am curious about all the things Why would they deny him?
25:32
That I don't know That makes no sense.
25:35
Yeah, that makes no sense.
25:37
I mean even just to clip him in the shoulder or something I'm not saying necessarily kill him or whatever.
25:42
That yeah, that's weird I'm ready for this election to be over.
25:46
Same.
25:47
Well, I saw something that Biden's dropping out soon.
25:49
I've been hearing that too.
25:50
This weekend, I didn't think he's supposed to make it.
25:52
I don't even know who would be the potential replacement for him.
25:56
Kamala is apparently supposed to be running now.
25:59
Oh, really?
26:00
I haven't seen her in a long time.
26:02
This whole thing is just a effed up mess.
26:05
I do love that all of these like rappers and like hip hop people are coming out did you see the Latinos for Trump or whatever?
26:13
No.
26:13
It's like this group, and it's these Latin guys and they have all these songs for Trump.
26:18
Really?
26:19
And then, Amber Rose.
26:21
used to date Kanye, made this speech, about how the first two times, she was anti Trump.
26:28
And then her dad was like, do you even know what you're talking about?
26:30
Like, do you know what you're voting for?
26:32
And she wanted to prove her dad wrong.
26:34
So she went and did her own research and found she was wrong this entire time, um, about her beliefs or what she was thinking.
26:41
What she thought she was voting for or what she thought somebody believed in.
26:45
Yeah.
26:45
So I think that is a huge message that she put out there for younger people or even people our age, that you can't take everything at face value.
26:55
I'm both sides.
26:55
I'm saying shows politics, but in everything, like do your own research, don't take anything at face value.
27:02
Just, give yourself a little bit of knowledge, no matter if it's, About politics or if it's about religion or whatever.
27:09
Yeah, dig into it yourself a little bit But she did a music video with the Latinos for Trump.
27:14
Did she?
27:16
That is great.
27:17
She's beautiful like she is so pretty.
27:19
She is.
27:20
She is.
27:21
She is really pretty.
27:22
So I thought it was it was a great message again I'm not saying vote one way or the other right just to you know Do your own research on your own values and which candidate best suits what you believe in.
27:33
Right?
27:34
Absolutely.
27:34
Well, and then for you to, Have the you know kahunas to admit when you were wrong about something no matter again Which side you're on but to do your own research and be like what I ain't got it No, so our boys Snoop did the same thing Snoopy Snoop D O double G Love him.
27:55
We haven't broke out in song yet this week still early.
27:58
Yeah, we still got time.
27:59
Oh my goodness Did you hear anything about that influencer, Kat Torres?
28:04
Yeah, is she the one that died?
28:05
No.
28:06
Oh, then no.
28:07
She just got sentenced to eight years.
28:09
What did she do?
28:10
So, for trafficking and human slavery.
28:14
she is from Brazil.
28:16
Okay.
28:16
she was an Instagram model, whatever.
28:19
Something or other.
28:20
Yeah, and came over from Brazil.
28:22
To model here.
28:24
and she, made a life for herself here as a, guru.
28:28
Yeah, whatever.
28:29
Yeah.
28:30
But she had.
28:31
Some of her fans, to come live with her, to get out of their situations that they didn't want to be in.
28:39
so they were here, I believe illegally, she was like forcing them to like clean.
28:46
I mean, do everything for her and then started making them work at a strip club.
28:51
forcing them saying that they had to make 2, 000 a night.
28:55
And if they didn't make 2, 000 a night, they had to sleep on the streets.
28:58
Oh, geez.
28:59
And she was keeping all of the money.
29:01
That sounds like a movie.
29:03
Yeah.
29:03
So crazy, right?
29:04
So these two women from Brazil, their families are reportedly missing.
29:09
they find out like they've been in contact with this chick.
29:13
And so the FBI, Open an investigation here and they find the women.
29:18
well, she actually got started getting heat in Texas.
29:20
She was in Texas.
29:21
Okay.
29:21
She started getting heat in Texas and so she up and left.
29:24
Well, she's also a self-proclaimed witch, and so she was, she was threatening these people around her with, um, putting curses on them and all this, like other stuff.
29:35
So they leave this mansion that I guess she stopped making rent payments and stuff the neighbor said when they left, they found like all these voodoo dolls and like all of this like witchcraft stuff.
29:45
That's kind of stuff freaks me out in the house and she moved to Maine.
29:49
And so the cops in Maine did a wellness check and started seeing red flags because the girls were super apprehensive about seeing red flags.
29:58
Speaking without her permission and all these things so long story short they Deport the two girls back to their families in brazil.
30:08
Okay she gets I think I don't know.
30:11
She was arrested here She got deported there and they did press charges there for trafficking and so she's got eight years in prison now Oh my God.
30:19
Oh, it's even worse.
30:23
I mean, I don't know what the, I don't know either.
30:25
I just know American prisons are cush compared to other.
30:28
Yeah.
30:30
But, I thought that was just bananas.
30:31
Like she is crazy.
30:34
Yeah.
30:34
For like forcing people to work for her and not paying them.
30:37
Right.
30:38
And taking what money they do make.
30:39
I mean, that's like a pimp.
30:40
Yeah.
30:41
Well, 20 women have coming forward and had similar stories.
30:46
Wow.
30:47
But the two that, she got caught with, I guess the families reported them missing.
30:52
Well, I'm glad they followed that.
30:54
Yeah.
30:54
People are wacky, man.
30:56
wouldn't expect that from from somebody like that, but you just wouldn't have expected a lot of things that we've Encountered lately, especially with the whole T.
31:06
Diddy thing.
31:07
Oh my god That whole thing I but it got super quiet about everything.
31:12
I know it's crazy isn't like creepy Why like it just went silent?
31:16
Why?
31:17
Like where did it all go?
31:18
That's a great question.
31:20
That's a great question.
31:22
I mean that's all you heard about for weeks and then it just went dead silent.
31:27
Did he pay people off to like stop talking about it?
31:30
I just think that there's probably something else that we're all talking about now instead of that.
31:34
What are we talking about now?
31:35
Nothing.
31:35
The election.
31:36
I don't know.
31:37
And, and all the stuff going on with the debates and.
31:40
Yeah.
31:41
I still think that it just kind of like all disappeared.
31:43
It did.
31:44
It did.
31:45
Did you listen to Eminem's new CD?
31:47
No, but I heard it wasn't great.
31:49
I loved it.
31:49
Okay.
31:50
well, I mean, I'm taking that from Jackson.
31:52
Who he does like Eminem.
31:54
I know.
31:55
I know.
31:55
I'll give it a listen.
31:56
I liked it.
31:56
Okay.
31:57
there's one song on there that he is talking to.
32:01
His kids like after he died like after he died and I I was bawling.
32:05
Oh, oh He's got more than one kid.
32:09
Well, he has Hayley.
32:11
Yeah, and then he has Kim's like love child from like another man.
32:17
I think he's raised Another child I think it was his niece.
32:23
Okay.
32:24
also raised her.
32:25
Oh, he's a good dude.
32:27
He is.
32:27
And, but the song, I'll have to listen to that one, especially.
32:31
Oh my God.
32:31
It's bawling.
32:32
And then on TikTok I saw like men like Eminem, like, why you got me over here in my feelings?
32:38
That's funny.
32:39
But a girl said, Eminem wrote the song for all the, kids that never got to say goodbye to their dad.
32:45
I don't need to listen.
32:45
I mean, yeah, I was bawling.
32:48
Yeah.
32:48
So I really liked it.
32:51
Yeah, there's like one or two songs that I was like, but yeah, for the most part I liked it all.
32:55
Okay, I'll give it a listen.
32:56
I'll give it a listen.
32:57
we've been talking about TikTok.
32:59
Are you on Snapchat much?
33:01
I'm on there enough to try to keep up with Jackson and to whatever.
33:05
But I feel like all of a sudden that I asked him today, I was like, do people still post on there?
33:09
I was like.
33:10
There's only a couple of people that post I was like or did they like unfriend me or whatever you do He was like well who and I gave him a couple names.
33:16
He's like, yeah, they don't post and I was like, okay I said I see this guy sometimes he was like, yeah He posts every once in a while and I said I see this person and he was like, yeah mama People just aren't doing it.
33:26
You didn't get Unfriended but I have to tell you i've got like a celebrity the other day because So he had football practice.
33:34
Pick him up from football practice and they had registration and he'd already been registered online, like saying he's coming to school, but we had to pick up his schedule and you know, you pay, um, if you want to buy a yearbook or go ahead and pay on their lunch accounts, you know, all that kind of stuff, figure out the bus riding situation and all that.
33:50
So I pick him up after football.
33:53
And I'm walking with him through the parking lot, and it's only for sophomores.
33:58
The other people have their own days.
34:00
And so his other friends that are, upperclassmen were getting in their cars or walking towards their vehicles or whatever.
34:07
And, and I keep hearing, Hey, Mrs.
34:10
Hill.
34:10
And I'm like, Hey, Mrs.
34:11
Hill.
34:12
And I'm like, Oh, this is me.
34:16
You're on the float at the parade.
34:17
I know.
34:18
That's how I felt.
34:19
I was like, Jackson, who was that?
34:21
And because the windows were real tinted and you told me, and I was like, Oh, and then later I was like, I didn't know they knew me.
34:27
He was like, well, and I was like, I think I was famous cause I was walking with you.
34:31
And he was like, maybe, but, I just, I just love it when people recognize me.
34:38
It's stupid.
34:39
Like I love when people say hey to me.
34:41
Is that bad?
34:42
When I used to sub, for the school That was the worst because I would like just go to Walmart and I'd be like, you know, like sweatpants and like a t shirt Oh, yeah, or whatever.
34:49
Oh, yeah and it'd be like these little kids running up to you giving you hugs and the parents are like Yeah, and i'm like i'm a sub.
34:56
Yeah, hands up hands up, but it'd be like Mrs.
34:59
Navarro.
35:00
Yeah, like and like run over and I used to get that with football a lot too but I did know most of those parents, but sometimes they would be like if the dad usually brought in the moms with the kid and they're looking at me like How do you know him?
35:11
And i'm like Football.
35:12
Yeah.
35:12
so, uh, if you see me in public, make sure you speak.
35:15
You know, I never see you in public and we always see each other, but since we've been doing this and hanging out, we don't see, I don't see you in public anymore.
35:22
See, it was God's way of, of, I think so.
35:25
I think, I think.
35:27
Um, so that was, uh, that was good.
35:30
You were stuck on it like fidgeting and like, yeah, so I had just, texted Brandon.
35:34
I'm like, I need to order a new chair.
35:35
Like, this one, like, hurt my back.
35:37
It's not comfortable anymore.
35:38
so he's like, we'll just, you know, pick 1 out, whatever.
35:40
So.
35:40
It was prime day.
35:41
Yes.
35:42
Yeah.
35:43
And I was like, okay, so I'm like searching and, you know, and I sit in like all weird positions.
35:46
I'll sit like cross legged.
35:48
I'll sit with like my legs up and just put the keyboard on my lap and all over the place.
35:52
And they have these chairs.
35:54
Yes.
35:54
I was going to ask you, they're like, A chair and a half almost.
35:57
Yeah, and like they all have arms so you can sit like crisscross applesauce.
36:01
Yes, you're so mature.
36:05
Also like if you like take off something like something on the bottom like you can like kind of like rock on it too.
36:10
And I was like, oh my gosh, this is perfect.
36:12
So it was on sale for like 47.
36:17
Nice! But yeah, so I'm excited for my new chair.
36:20
I won't.
36:21
I mean, I just bought a new desk, but I wish I would have gotten one that raises up.
36:24
Does this one raise up?
36:24
No, brandon left his the thing that you can like, yes, I just put on top of the office.
36:30
but then when we came home and stuff, I obviously didn't bring that home.
36:34
but yeah, I've, I've enjoyed, I can't type and stand up at the same time.
36:40
I almost said, I enjoy changing positions.
36:46
Um, I don't say crisscross applesauce though, but I do like to like move, move around a little bit and all that.
36:52
And I have one of those things under my desk for my feet, raise my feet up.
36:55
That helps too.
36:56
Well, I was, you know, searching chairs and they've got all these like fancy ones that they've got leg rest that pop out now and really, and I was like, but I Is it too much?
37:06
I don't sit still enough.
37:09
I don't sit still enough either.
37:10
I'm kind of, and if I'm on a call and I'm not like actively displaying or something like I will stand up or walk around for a little bit if I'm, it's not something that I need to like visually.
37:19
Well, when's your chair supposed to be here?
37:21
this Tuesday.
37:23
Awesome.
37:24
Awesome.
37:25
You'll probably love that.
37:27
I'm excited to be able to sit comfortably.
37:30
Yeah.
37:31
Crisscross applesauce.
37:32
Crisscross applesauce.
37:33
Grown up with your pink hair and braids.
37:37
You gotta, gotta stay young somehow.
37:39
Well, you're rocking it.
37:40
We're going to get more rain today.
37:42
I cannot wait.
37:43
I don't know if y'all can hear it, but we got lots of thunder.
37:45
I'm going to go out and if it rains today, I'll video myself.
37:48
I'm going to, I'm gonna dance in the rain.
37:50
Clothed.
37:51
Not naked.
37:51
I saw there was this dude and like he looks like Not like a dancer.
37:56
Yeah, but he was out in the rain like trying to do the you know, like the slide in Oh, he's like doing like the body pop.
38:02
Oh, yeah.
38:03
Yeah How was it going for him?
38:05
It wasn't.
38:07
Somebody recorded him and, and, and go viral.
38:09
And the, I'll have Jackson record me if I go out and dance in the rain.
38:12
We'll share that.
38:13
I don't mind.
38:14
Dylan used to, when he was little, we would play in the rain all the time.
38:17
There's something just so fun about it when you don't, like when you're not trying to run in and keep your hair from falling.
38:22
If you're just outside in the rain, like, why not?
38:24
We would, go, And like run around the pool.
38:28
Yeah.
38:28
And see who can run around quickest and get back So, it has rained the past few days, like this time every day or a little bit later.
38:34
And, Jackson was running to the garage.
38:36
We have like a little cabinet that we, it's like a sub pantry.
38:40
So he was like, I'm going to run out and see what's in there.
38:41
I was like, okay.
38:43
So he ran and our garage it's disconnected.
38:46
So there's like a little driveway and then you get the garage.
38:49
So he goes off the porch, goes in, and then runs back.
38:52
He said, I'm so fast.
38:54
I did not even get wet.
38:55
I was like, shut up! You are not faster than the rain.
39:00
It's called dash.
39:01
Oh my gosh, this child.
39:04
I so, um, there are, am I the a-hole?
39:08
Yes.
39:08
I took from the Bad Moms or mama drama, one of those, one of those groups, on Facebook, because I tagged you in it and I was like, this needs to be our next.
39:18
Yep.
39:18
And I was like, absolutely.
39:19
Yeah, absolutely.
39:20
You want react?
39:22
Absolutely.
39:23
And I went and found it on Reddit.
39:24
Um, you did?
39:25
Yeah.
39:25
From the actual post.
39:27
Okay.
39:27
Am I the a hole for rejecting my friend's request to have an open relationship with my husband?
39:33
Whaaaaat?
39:35
Okay.
39:35
I, 30 year old female, have been married to my husband, 32 male, for 5 years.
39:40
We have 2 beautiful kids, five year old male, six year old female, and have a very strong relationship and are happy together.
39:46
Recently my friend, Lisa, 29 female, confided to me that she has developed feelings for my husband.
39:53
She said that she finds him attractive and admires our relationship and she asked if we'd consider having an open relationship so she could be with him too.
40:00
Oh my gosh.
40:02
I was shocked and told her no, explaining that my husband and I are committed to each other.
40:06
And that we are not interested in an open relationship.
40:09
Lisa got upset and accused me of being selfish and closed minded.
40:13
She argued that modern relationships should be flexible and that I was denying her happiness.
40:19
Since then, Lisa's been distant and has been spreading rumors in our friend group suggesting I'm overly possessive and controlling.
40:26
This has caused a lot of tension and some of our mutual friends are now taking sides.
40:31
My husband is supportive of my decision but I feel guilty for the drama it's caused.
40:35
So am I the a hole for rejecting my friend's request to have an open relationship with my husband?
40:40
Edit.
40:41
This attracted a lot more attention very fast than I thought it would.
40:44
I've read most of your comments and I think tomorrow I'll talk to the whole friend group about it and I'll update Update number one.
40:51
I love it when we have updates.
40:53
After reading some of your comments, I decided to bring the group out for coffee and told them all about what Lisa said and the real story.
41:00
I also showed them the Reddit post after showing them, there were two girls that were still on Lisa's side.
41:05
So I took some advice from the comments and said, let Lisa F your husband and then you can be on her side.
41:12
After that, everyone was on my side.
41:13
Thankfully, Lisa wasn't happy at all and she started ranting about how it wasn't fair.
41:18
She just wanted to experience.
41:20
experiment with something new, and it wasn't even that bad of a request.
41:23
You're making it such a big deal, which I didn't get.
41:27
Me and the rest of the group have officially cut contact with Lisa, just hoping she doesn't try to reach out.
41:32
We'll update again if something happens.
41:34
Also, just clarifying that Lisa, who asked my husband for an open marriage, he also rejected saying that even if I was, I would never want to be with you.
41:43
I'm thinking of cutting off the ladies that were on Lisa's side for so long, but I'm not sure if they heard a different story or not, so should I?
41:51
Whoa.
41:53
No, you're not, Bayhole.
41:54
No, no, and no, and the fact that any of your friend group Right could possibly Right be on her side and right even after you explained it all the way up until let her F you're right I'm sorry, like, that's weird.
42:11
That's very weird, but, being on all these pages, which I keep for entertainment purposes only, there's a lot of lifestyles out there like this.
42:19
Yeah.
42:19
And, but if they're friends, like, she would know that that's not their lifestyle, right?
42:23
Right.
42:24
So, to approach somebody who's not even In that lifestyle and never even, I mean, I guess mentioned, Hey, we thought about trying it out just to be like, Hey, so yeah.
42:36
And then to go and try to get everybody on her side and then to be mad when she said, no, no, what she told everybody.
42:45
Like I want Lisa's story.
42:47
Oh yeah.
42:48
What she, well, how did she get them on her side and Lisa's story?
42:50
Like I want to hear what Lisa told everybody.
42:52
I don't want to hear what she has to say because I think she was probably just lying about it.
42:56
Not that I know Lisa, like this is all my like speculation.
42:58
So you, you want to know what she said that everybody got on her side.
43:05
Yeah.
43:05
Why would you even think that that would be even spin that to get people on your side?
43:10
I don't understand like how she, how he can spin that unless it's totally unrelated to this.
43:15
Well, it doesn't sound like it is.
43:17
I know, that's the only thing I can think of, though.
43:19
That if it's just totally off the wall.
43:21
Could you imagine, what would you, like, how would you I would think somebody was joking.
43:25
I I would be like, there's no way you're serious right now.
43:29
And did she go to the husband before or after she went to the friend?
43:32
Oh, I'm thinking After I would I'd be in jail because I would have I could not yeah, I can't would have I'm, pretty possessive.
43:42
Um Apparently according to lisa, I like to ruin people's happiness Okay, they approach you whatever bad like judgment if you had never given off yeah that lifestyle before and that's Hey, I want your husband right like Okay.
44:00
Whatever.
44:01
Let it slide.
44:03
But then to go and ask your husband, right.
44:07
And that is crossing like a major, major line.
44:09
Yeah.
44:10
Yeah.
44:11
Cause what if, I mean, the wife obviously wasn't comfortable with it.
44:15
Right.
44:15
It wasn't like they were going to have a thropple.
44:17
It sounds like, it just sounds like she wanted to bang the husband.
44:19
Right.
44:20
So it wasn't even like it was gonna be like a pleasurable for everybody, right?
44:25
Right.
44:25
It was just a hey, let me take him off your hands for a day.
44:28
I want to Yeah, experience your husband is what I'm getting the experience That was early in the pod wasn't it?
44:43
Yeah, that is just not, like, I don't even know how I would respond in that moment other than to think they were kidding.
44:50
And I, I think I would do a lot of that.
44:54
Just like, stuttering and speechless.
44:56
Whose friends were they, too?
44:57
Like, I want to know, like, were they best friends?
44:59
They, no, they weren't.
45:00
No, I think she's new to this friend group.
45:04
That's what I'm thinking.
45:05
I need more information.
45:07
What did the Reddit it was just like, no, you're not, was anybody on her side or on Lisa's side?
45:13
No.
45:14
I mean, other than well, have you ever given off like those, those vibes?
45:16
Yeah.
45:17
but I, I want to know one, how long have they been friends?
45:22
Two, three.
45:23
Did she go to the husband after right before?
45:25
What was the timeline?
45:26
Yeah, three what she told all the friend group.
45:29
Yeah, that made the friend group on her side.
45:32
Yeah, because in my head, like, there's no nothing that, other than well, she told me that she would, she would want to try it one day.
45:39
Right now.
45:40
She's like, acting all holier than now.
45:42
Okay.
45:42
So, one, one of, uh, somebody we mutually know came to you and said, I wanted to be with Meredith and you, I can't see you being like, well, you're right.
45:53
You sh she is getting in the way of your happiness.
45:56
Yeah, no, no.
45:57
I'd be like, are you right?
45:58
Right.
45:59
Yeah.
46:00
Crazy.
46:01
I want some more information and like a background of the dynamic of the group.
46:05
Yeah.
46:06
Like how long they've ever been even friends.
46:07
Right.
46:08
I'm not assuming Lisa's Signal.
46:10
Signal?
46:10
Nope.
46:11
Single.
46:12
Maybe she wants to trade.
46:14
Maybe.
46:16
like that, that was wild to me.
46:17
That, that, that is, that is crazy.
46:20
That is crazy.
46:21
Yeah.
46:21
I mean, and it's not like they're in like their early twenties.
46:24
Right, not that's like a make a big difference, but like you're kind of like more Open ish I would say mental.
46:31
Yeah, uh, like they've been married for several years.
46:34
Yeah kids I don't know.
46:36
Oh, yeah, she's 30 and 32.
46:39
I mean, it's like young 30s, but still like they've got kids They've been married.
46:42
They're settled.
46:42
Yeah, it's not like it's like they're just dating right college and Right, like the one last week where they had to replace the limo and yes, they spread chlamydia.
46:53
Yes yeah, no, she is not the a hole at all.
46:59
so I did find another one.
47:00
Okay.
47:00
So here we go.
47:03
Here we go.
47:04
Okay.
47:04
Am I the a hole for suggesting a threesome to my date who brought a friend along and expected me to pay?
47:13
There's a lot in that first sentence.
47:15
I've been talking to Denise for a couple of weeks and our schedules finally aligned last weekend.
47:21
I said we should get food and see where it goes.
47:23
She didn't want me to pick her up, so we arranged to meet up.
47:27
I got there early and had a beer while I waited.
47:29
When she showed up, she had a friend along.
47:31
I thought maybe it was her ride or she wanted someone to meet me in case things got sketchy.
47:35
Nope, the girl sat with us at the restaurant.
47:37
She ordered drinks and a meal.
47:39
She was cool, and I enjoyed talking to her almost as much as with Denise.
47:43
Dun Dun When the bill came, the waitress asked how we were paying.
47:47
I asked for a couple of seconds.
47:50
The waitress left and asked Denise what was going on.
47:53
She said that our friend was along to make sure I was a good guy and that I should be paying for her too.
47:58
I said I'd only asked her out and not the friend.
48:02
and then I would not be paying for her.
48:04
Denise said that I should be trying to impress her and I was failing.
48:08
I saw what was going on and decided to bounce.
48:11
I said that I would pay for supper if a threesome was on the table.
48:15
Denise and her friend got offended and said that I was a pig.
48:19
When the wagers came back, I paid for my meal and drinks.
48:22
I also made sure to give her a cash tip and explained that it was a tip and not to be applied to the rest of the bill.
48:28
Then I got up and left.
48:29
Denise texted and called me dozens of times to insult me and call me cheap.
48:34
I may have been vulgar, but I don't think I was in the wrong.
48:37
Am I the a hole?
48:39
Here's an update.
48:39
Okay.
48:40
He made actually a whole separate post.
48:42
Post?
48:42
Okay.
48:43
Update.
48:44
Strange update about Well, hold on.
48:45
Do you think that he's a a hole for this before we even get to the update?
48:48
Okay.
48:49
Um, no.
48:51
I mean, maybe it could have been handled better by asking for the threesome, but I don't think he's an a hole for not wanting to pay for the friend.
49:00
I've seen like quite a bit of these, like as I'm searching for stuff about the woman bringing a friend.
49:05
I've not heard of that before.
49:06
And expecting the man to pay for both of them.
49:08
I think it's weird.
49:09
Like I think it's really weird that you expect your date one, I get like, Hey, I'm sending a picture to my friend.
49:16
If anything happens to me, we know it's you.
49:18
Yeah.
49:20
I mean, like something like that.
49:21
I get that.
49:21
because people are crazy nowadays and Lord knows we see enough crime stuff, but I think, I think it's weird.
49:28
I'm not gonna lie too, and I'm, I'm an old fashioned girl.
49:31
Like, I'm, I would, I, I'm for femininity, but I'm also for, the man, you know, also paying.
49:39
But on a first date like this, where you don't, you haven't even really met, I'd be okay with them just splitting the bill.
49:44
Yeah.
49:44
Without the friend involved.
49:46
Right.
49:46
I don't see why she just assumed that he was going to be paying for it.
49:50
Now, with that said, on the flip side, I always make sure that Jackson does pay for his, you know, girls.
49:55
Right.
49:55
Like, I'm saying that, but I also want Jackson to always pay.
50:00
I'm talking out of both sides of my mouth.
50:01
No, and Dylan has been raised the same way, with, you know, Hey, you pay for them.
50:05
Right.
50:06
Yeah.
50:06
but this like third person.
50:08
Yeah.
50:08
That you're not planning for.
50:10
And not, I mean, I don't know.
50:12
I think it's weird.
50:13
I think it's weird to bring another person on the date as a third wheel.
50:17
It's not like it's a double date.
50:18
It's not like it's, I think it's strange to like to come in and meet them and leave, I could see.
50:23
Or to sit at the bar while they're waiting on your table to get a vibe.
50:26
And to know who you're talking to.
50:28
Yeah, but to sit on, that seems really immature to me.
50:31
And I, and I've been seeing it a lot.
50:33
Like on like, the different.
50:35
Always the female?
50:36
Yeah.
50:37
I just think it's weird.
50:37
I do too.
50:38
And maybe it's just that we're not in the dating scene well, aren't we?
50:42
No, we are not.
50:44
Absolutely not.
50:45
But I mean it might just be the way that, that they're asked.
50:48
I wish I knew how old they were.
50:50
You know what I mean?
50:51
And I don't think that what he did was right.
50:53
I don't think like suggesting a state is right to go either.
50:58
Right.
50:58
But I can see where he would be like, well, hell, if I'm paying for this, not that bad.
51:03
He has to pay and right when he gets in return, right?
51:05
I can see his train of thought of like I'm gonna make if they want to try to make me a fool I'm gonna yeah say something back.
51:11
Well, I just I think that's awfully presumptuous to even think that First of all that he's gonna pay right?
51:19
I mean again, you would want them to But you know, if they, they don't, whatever.
51:23
And then it's presumptuous for her to bring somebody without even asking him the courtesy of saying, Hey, can, this is what I'm doing.
51:30
And then to expect him, what if he had 42 to his name?
51:35
And that was enough for their dinner at Applebee's.
51:37
And he didn't or whatever they're doing.
51:40
I mean that he doesn't say that that's the case, but I mean, that's just, I feel like very crass on her part to not ask.
51:47
The other one that I saw that was very similar, he said, that they went out to nicer restaurant.
51:52
And so the guy, you know, just got like a, whatever, chicken and vegetables.
51:56
Yeah.
51:56
Well, the girl, the girl that he was on a date with and the friend wanted surf and turf started ordering all sorts of like beverages, appetizers.
52:06
I mean, they were there to rack up the bill, eat.
52:10
Like that was the point.
52:11
Yeah.
52:12
So when the bill came, He something similar, like, you know, like, well, I mean, like, I would like Right?
52:18
She paid for herself.
52:19
Like, I, what are we doing here?
52:21
Pay for you.
52:21
But like, and they're like, no, you need to pay for both of us.
52:24
And you're the man you need to pay.
52:26
Yeah.
52:27
So he excused himself to go to the restroom, paid for his and left., I mean, I get it.
52:31
I, because I Right.
52:32
I think, like you said, it's presumptuous to expect him to pay for not just yours, but for both of yours.
52:37
Yeah.
52:38
And.
52:39
In the other case, they were like racking up the bill because they thought it was a free meal.
52:42
Right.
52:43
They literally just wanted a meal.
52:44
Right.
52:45
But in this case, I'm not sure.
52:47
Yeah.
52:49
I says he kind of had a good time talking with everybody and they had a good time, but I just think that that was really rude to expect that.
52:56
And as the friend, I don't know what the friend said, like, was the friend like, yeah, pay for me.
53:01
So let's go to his update.
53:02
Oh, is that what's an update?
53:04
Oh, he's dating the friend now, isn't he?
53:06
Okay, update.
53:08
I ran into Denise's friend while I was out with my dog about a week ago.
53:11
I prepared myself for a verbal assault after our last encounter.
53:15
Instead she apologized.
53:17
She said that it had been Denise's idea for her to come along and she had been surprised when Denise expected me to pay the full bill.
53:24
She said she had thought it I was a toxic a hole for suggesting a threesome, but that she had seen the story on TikTok and recognized it was my point of view.
53:33
She tracked down the post on Reddit and the comment stung.
53:37
But they had been fair.
53:38
She said that she had enjoyed talking to me and offered to take me out for supper to treat Her treat to make up for the last time.
53:45
I declined but I offered to let her buy me a coffee at the dog friendly cafe by the park.
53:49
Okay, I already like him because of the doggos.
53:51
We had a really great time and she's the sort of person I was looking for when I had to ask out Denise.
53:56
I got her info and we've been talking for a week now.
53:59
We're going to see Twisters on Friday, my treat.
54:01
That must be today because it comes out today.
54:05
So something good came out of it.
54:07
Thanks all and wish me luck.
54:09
So it worked out for him.
54:11
It did work out for him and her.
54:13
What's Denise gonna say?
54:15
Mm hmm.
54:16
Well, I think that's funny.
54:18
That's a funny update.
54:19
And yeah, Twisters comes out today.
54:20
I want to see it.
54:21
Have you seen the previews?
54:22
Yes, I have.
54:23
I want to see it too.
54:23
Mm hmm.
54:24
That's definitely one you want to see in the theater though.
54:25
Yeah.
54:26
With all the surround sound and everything.
54:27
That's funny that he ran into her and that they if he was he was ready to be ringed But but she was cool about it.
54:34
Could you imagine though like it's going on tik tok and seeing like your your story?
54:38
Yeah.
54:38
Yeah, but it's like out No there, but he never said her name.
54:43
She's always Denise's friend.
54:44
Yeah.
54:45
Well, he might have said it like on his maybe story Maybe I don't know.
54:49
I don't know either.
54:50
yeah, I mean it worked out.
54:52
I still don't think he's an a hole.
54:53
I if he said it as a joke, trying to break the ice or whatever, like to make them kind of see his point of view.
54:57
Like, I'm really okay with this.
54:59
Yeah, I am too.
55:00
And I hope you have a good time at the movies, dude.
55:06
See, and this is why I will never date.
55:09
Ever.
55:09
Ever.
55:10
Never.
55:10
I am good.
55:11
Ever.
55:13
Well, I like, read too many things on all of these sites.
55:19
Well, if you ever, um, you know, get to that point where you in 15 years and you do change your mind, I'll go with you and get the free meal.
55:28
I have no desire to ever have to deal with people.
55:40
Like, people are so weird now.
55:42
People are so weird.
55:43
They're so weird.
55:44
And, I mean, I really try not to judge and to each his own and all that kind of stuff, but.
55:49
I judge.
55:50
With the furries and the, I know, I know.
55:54
I try to let everybody live their own lives, but it's just all so weird.
55:59
Like people are so pushy now with their, their views.
56:03
Yeah.
56:03
Like if you don't agree with them and I am not an agreeable person, like I would not be somebody like anybody wants to date.
56:10
I am.
56:10
I am not somebody anybody would want to date.
56:14
But you're, but you're very right.
56:16
Like everybody expects everybody to agree with them.
56:18
And if you don't, it's your, you're the one that's intolerant.
56:21
Yeah.
56:22
so I am not the ideal dating person at all.
56:26
Yeah.
56:27
That ship has sailed.
56:30
Are you too old and set in your ways now?
56:31
It's not even that I'm set in my ways, like, I don't understand.
56:34
Speaking of, I've learned something this week.
56:36
Did you know?
56:37
OK, so we know that when a dude dates an older lady, she's a cougar.
56:42
They're called cubs.
56:44
I did not know this.
56:46
So the, the younger dudes are called cubs and I read it going down a rabbit hole about Reddit and this lady was talking about her cub and I was like, what?
56:54
It's creepy to me.
56:55
Like, the whole term, like, it's just Cougar and a cub.
56:58
No! Yeah.
57:03
I'm not meant for this type of stuff.
57:06
I'm, I'm happily, I, Rex.
57:08
You are my life companion.
57:10
Perfect.
57:11
Perfect.
57:11
I did see there is, there's a rescue and it's called the shirtless rescue and it's like this dude that goes and like rescues.
57:17
It's all the rescues and whatever.
57:19
Yeah.
57:19
But like, you know, he's like a fit.
57:21
That's his gimmick.
57:21
Yeah.
57:21
So he goes and like, he rescues the dogs, right?
57:24
Oh, like these kill shelters.
57:26
So, He brings the dog home, and he's got like this beautiful house, and like all this land, and his wife lives there, obviously, and whatever, like they're happily married.
57:34
Wonderful for them.
57:36
Yeah.
57:36
It's like my dream, he's got like 40 rescue dogs, and they're all like frolicking on the lane, and they're all just playing together, and like he like integrates the new puppy in.
57:46
Oh, that's so sweet.
57:48
I was like, this is like, My train.
57:50
That's so sweet.
57:51
Not the dude.
57:52
Like I just saw the dogs.
57:53
Right, right.
57:56
Yeah, me too.
57:57
Me too.
57:58
And I'm on raccoon.
58:00
Oh my gosh.
58:01
Did you see that video I posted?
58:02
Yes.
58:03
With like Rexy needs a bestie.
58:04
Yes.
58:05
They're so great.
58:06
I love raccoon.
58:07
Want a raccoon So much.
58:09
Have you seen the one?
58:10
So they wash their food before they eat it?
58:11
Have you seen the one where they give'em cotton candy?
58:13
And it like disintegrates.
58:15
Oh, poor little thing.
58:17
And I love the one where it's like a voiceover.
58:19
And it's at nighttime and there's two raccoons.
58:22
And you can see like a spotlight go on them.
58:24
One of them says to the other one, play cool, play cool.
58:28
Don't act suspicious.
58:29
Don't act suspicious.
58:29
Something like that.
58:30
Yeah.
58:30
And it turns and he's like frozen on two feet.
58:32
Yeah, it's great.
58:34
It's great.
58:34
There was one on our, road the other day and I was like, can we play stop?
58:38
And he was like, are you nuts?
58:40
And I was like, if you raise them from where they're little babies, and they just want to love on you.
58:45
Yeah.
58:45
And they love dogs.
58:47
All right.
58:48
Okay.
58:48
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