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Dirty Rush: Shocking Secrets from Inside the Sorority House Revealed · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Dirty Rush, The Truth about Sorority Life, with
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  Speaker 1: your hosts me Gia, Judice.
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  Speaker 2: Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Fessler. Hi, guys, it is Jen
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  Speaker 2: Fessler here with another episode of Dirty Rush, and today
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  Speaker 2: we are going to answer the question that we are
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  Speaker 2: constantly asked, what is it like to live in a
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  Speaker 2: sorority house? And to help us with that, we are
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  Speaker 2: bringing in two of our producers, Heather and Amy and
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  Speaker 2: our friend Nicki.
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  Speaker 3: Hi, guys, Hi, Hi, Hi, Hi Jen.
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  Speaker 4: I agree with you. That is the number one question
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  Speaker 4: people ask them of what is it like living in
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  Speaker 4: a sorority?
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  Speaker 2: That is our number one question? Is absolutely true, So
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  Speaker 2: let's answer the question as best as we can. You, guys, Amy,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, tell me some of your thoughts here.
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  Speaker 4: So I think we had NICKI and I were in
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  Speaker 4: the sorority together. So I think we probably had one
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  Speaker 4: hundred people living in How many people live in your house?
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  Speaker 4: You know, not that many one time.
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  Speaker 2: Not as many. So it was you know, like I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure like you guys, it was divided up. So I
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  Speaker 2: lived in my house my junior year, but I that
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  Speaker 2: was when so I had pledged lates. I had transferred
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  Speaker 2: to University of Texas. So I was living with girls
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  Speaker 2: that were younger than me, and I would say there
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  Speaker 2: was probably fifty of us living in the house.
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  Speaker 4: So and NICKI can attest to this. One of the
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  Speaker 4: like things that people really noticed about our story was
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  Speaker 4: that it was mostly two girl rooms because.
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  Speaker 3: A lotled porch.
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  Speaker 4: Right, but a lot of people are turned off by
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  Speaker 4: that pledge porch, don't you think, Nikki?
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  Speaker 3: It was? It was awful.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know what is a pledge porch? Wait,
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  Speaker 2: you guys, what's a pledge porch? I don't remember.
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  Speaker 3: It's like eight beds or Piey's was worse. Pie Fy's
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  Speaker 3: was like one day room. We had what six.
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  Speaker 4: Or six people, and you get you get sort of
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  Speaker 4: like your own little alcove, and then you get a closet.
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  Speaker 4: But the thing people don't like about other stories is
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  Speaker 4: that you keep your stuff in one room and then
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  Speaker 4: like thirty girls sleep in what is like a I
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  Speaker 4: don't even know. We didn't have them, so I don't.
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  Speaker 2: Know if it's called such a bunk at camp.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, and it's all beds. I think it's always ever.
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  Speaker 5: Handmaid's Tale, Did you guys watch Handmaid's Tail? It was
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  Speaker 5: literally look like Handmaid's Tale. That's just that's the vision
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  Speaker 5: right there.
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  Speaker 4: You know a lot of stories have it where you
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  Speaker 4: sleep in this room and it's all beds, bunk beds,
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  Speaker 4: and you're sleeping in bunk beds and it's dark. I
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  Speaker 4: think they keep it kind of cold in there, so
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  Speaker 4: it's only for sleeping, no desks.
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  Speaker 2: You guys had never heard of this. Did other houses
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  Speaker 2: have that on your campus?
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  Speaker 5: Yes, PIPI had like twenty of them, twenty beds in
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  Speaker 5: one room.
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  Speaker 4: And I think people also sort of sometimes like, look,
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  Speaker 4: this is a you know, a lucky thing to be
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  Speaker 4: able to say, but there were people that would go
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  Speaker 4: down to two top houses and they would pick the
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  Speaker 4: one that they didn't have to sleep in that.
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  Speaker 3: Are you sure?
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  Speaker 5: I don't remember even touring the play what we were
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  Speaker 5: not in the same sorority, because I don't remember that
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  Speaker 5: at all.
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  Speaker 4: No, we didn't have it. People didn't do PIPEI because
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  Speaker 4: of yeah, we.
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  Speaker 3: Didn't tour rooms, Amy jury.
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  Speaker 4: You do, Yes, you do. We showed off our two
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  Speaker 4: girlrooms because it was a real way to get people
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  Speaker 4: into our sorority.
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  Speaker 5: Right, let me tell you, it was a real way
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  Speaker 5: not to have gotten me in that sorority.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I've never recovered.
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  Speaker 5: The communal showers with everybody's hair is like I've never
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  Speaker 5: recovered from It's my biggest OCD triggering thing is the hair.
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  Speaker 6: Sorry non sorority girl jumping in here for a question
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  Speaker 6: about bathrooms.
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  Speaker 7: I gotta know.
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  Speaker 6: First of all, we're talking about all the girls sleeping
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  Speaker 6: in one bedroom. I have other questions about that bathroom.
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  Speaker 6: Who's on shower duty? How many toilets are in this house?
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  Speaker 4: There's multiple bathrooms, but you'd have like six or seven
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  Speaker 4: toilets just lined up like a public bathroom toilet.
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  Speaker 3: No, you have doors? You had it's doors, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: We also we had a housekeeper, so do we Yeah, we.
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  Speaker 4: Had many, So you don't. Nobody's cleaning the showers. Nobody's
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  Speaker 4: cleaning the toilets. That's living in the house. But our
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  Speaker 4: showers had individual stalls. Like sometimes I think people picture
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  Speaker 4: it like a locker room or something where you're just
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  Speaker 4: like making next for somebody.
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  Speaker 3: And the shower curtains.
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  Speaker 6: Can I just say that I wasn't picturing it like
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  Speaker 6: a locker room. I was picturing it like a house
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  Speaker 6: with like one toilet per bathroom.
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  Speaker 2: No, but it was our mind was it was like
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  Speaker 2: a house. I mean, we didn't have any there was nobody.
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  Speaker 2: There was fifteen girls congregating in one room in bunk beds.
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  Speaker 2: We each got a room and they were doubles. And
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  Speaker 2: it was actually very nice. I mean I compare it
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  Speaker 2: to like my freshman year when I was in a dorm,
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  Speaker 2: and this was way nicer, more homey. It was a
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  Speaker 2: really pretty house. The food was really good. Yeah yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, and I remember, and there was just a
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  Speaker 2: lot of you know, communal areas and the study room.
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  Speaker 2: It was nice. I didn't. I enjoyed it well.
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  Speaker 4: With your bathroom situation.
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  Speaker 2: Same thing, same thing, like stall stall stall, but nothing
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  Speaker 2: that was like.
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  Speaker 4: Now, what's interesting is we sort of had like glass
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  Speaker 4: between the showers, so you could fuzzy glass so you
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  Speaker 4: could see sort of like if Nicky was next to me,
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  Speaker 4: I would know, I'd be like, hey, nick, like what's
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  Speaker 4: going on. They have since changed it, Niki, and they
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  Speaker 4: made it like marble and you can't see into the
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  Speaker 4: next shower.
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  Speaker 3: I saw it.
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  Speaker 5: Remember we went to a game two years ago and
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  Speaker 5: we went into the house and I remember a lot
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  Speaker 5: of it was still the same thoay, mey. I mean
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  Speaker 5: it was a lipstick on a pig. I mean that
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  Speaker 5: was not a full page one remodel.
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  Speaker 4: So Nicky and I are both fifty. So this is
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  Speaker 4: thirty years ago. And the dressers where you put your
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  Speaker 4: clothes are the same. They have not changed the dressers,
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  Speaker 4: They've not changed the backs of the beds, but they
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  Speaker 4: changed the floors. Oh, the closets exactly the same. So
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  Speaker 4: we had two girls the majority two girls, some four girls,
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  Speaker 4: and then the pledge which I lived on the pledge
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  Speaker 4: porch and I found it fine.
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  Speaker 7: I have more questions about the pledge porch.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, So first of all, we're talking about ten plus
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  Speaker 6: girls all being in there. Is it lights off at
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  Speaker 6: the exact same time every What if you have somebody
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  Speaker 6: on the pledge porch who talks in their sleep? What
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  Speaker 6: if they want to read in their bed? I mean fine,
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  Speaker 6: what if they want to do other things?
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  Speaker 5: Good point, because there were no iPhones or there was
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  Speaker 5: no kindles or anything.
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  Speaker 3: It was books with like a little night light on your.
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  Speaker 7: That would seem annoying.
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  Speaker 4: But I always had a TV. I always had a
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  Speaker 4: TV in a DVD or VCR, whatever it was. That's
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  Speaker 4: back in the you know, nineties, So I would watch
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  Speaker 4: TV and I didn't have headphones.
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  Speaker 2: We didn't have any We didn't have a pledge porch.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you guys reminded me of Sleepway camp. We
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  Speaker 2: didn't have any of that. But I could tell you
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  Speaker 2: that my daughter in her house, she thanked God because
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  Speaker 2: she almost didn't want to pledge her sorry, because she
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  Speaker 2: was going to have to live in the house and
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  Speaker 2: she'd heard to night stories. We tried to get her
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  Speaker 2: out of it because she has Type on diabetes. Who
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  Speaker 2: tried to pull that card? We couldn't, but she ended
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  Speaker 2: up getting a single. But some of the rooms, like
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  Speaker 2: the triples, they were so tight. There was absolutely nowhere
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  Speaker 2: to put anything. And I remember like being amazed that
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  Speaker 2: these girls could even survive. I can't imagine a pledge porch.
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  Speaker 7: What if you're sick in that pledge porch?
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  Speaker 5: Your shower, Caddy, You're a little shower Caddie.
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  Speaker 4: You know what's so funny? Because Heather, I think we were.
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  Speaker 4: I don't remember who I was talking to about this yesterday,
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  Speaker 4: but I was preparing for this show trying to remember.
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  Speaker 4: It's two things I do not remember, and I'm going
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  Speaker 4: to tell you I don't remember ever getting sick, even
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  Speaker 4: though I was basically living in a petri dish filled
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  Speaker 4: with people. I don't remember ever like throwing up, getting
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  Speaker 4: a cold, nothing, And I truly this is gross. Sorry, guys,
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  Speaker 4: this is gross. I don't remember doing anything other than
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  Speaker 4: number one. Obviously I did because I lived there for
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  Speaker 4: three years. But I have no men of being like
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  Speaker 4: I had to poop next to somebody.
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  Speaker 7: Maybe you did it outside the house.
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  Speaker 4: Well, so that's an interesting point, Nikki. There are two
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  Speaker 4: guest bathrooms in our authorty that were individual and I
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  Speaker 4: do think on Gaily Nicky people went down and like
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  Speaker 4: went in that.
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  Speaker 5: So the one by the little den, that one, and
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  Speaker 5: then where was the where was the other down there's
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  Speaker 5: third floor.
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  Speaker 4: There was one on the third floor down at the
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  Speaker 4: very very end of the gaily hallway, like if you
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  Speaker 4: were at the President's room and one of someone might
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  Speaker 4: have had a weird bathtub. I can't quite remember.
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  Speaker 6: I'm trying to think of all things I've experienced with roommates.
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  Speaker 6: Were you allowed to smoke? Were you allowed to burn?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 4: You probably no. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: No candles anything.
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  Speaker 2: With my boys, there's definitely no boys.
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  Speaker 6: No candles and no incense and a bunch of young
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  Speaker 6: women all crammed into a space.
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  Speaker 7: How are we making itsell nice in there?
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  Speaker 4: I couldn't say.
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  Speaker 5: Not.
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  Speaker 2: In the bedrooms. We could have boys in the bedrooms.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we could have boys in the bedrooms till ten.
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  Speaker 2: O'clock, even in the whatever room in the in your bedroom,
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  Speaker 2: yeah no, but I mean the one with the eighteen beds,
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  Speaker 2: yeah yeahom yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Nobody was doing funny business. I never experienced that. And
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  Speaker 4: the other thing, Nikki is I don't remember people being
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  Speaker 4: naked like people always like and you just stand around naked,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm.
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  Speaker 3: Like, no, no.
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  Speaker 5: I remember getting in the shower really quickly and putting
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  Speaker 5: my towel on and like jumping in and all of
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  Speaker 5: that stuff.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 5: What I do remember that was interesting, is like I
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  Speaker 5: just think I was actually thinking that, like, how did
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  Speaker 5: we all decide who were we going to be roommates with?
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  Speaker 5: I think the girls were nicer back then. I think
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  Speaker 5: it was just there was not mean girls at least.
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  Speaker 3: I don't remember.
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  Speaker 4: When we were like house manager and it was very easy.
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  Speaker 4: People totally knew who their roommates were going to be,
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  Speaker 4: and then where your room was was based on points,
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  Speaker 4: so obviously the third floor was better than the second floor,
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  Speaker 4: and daily was better than the main two hallways, and
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  Speaker 4: so seniors had more points, so they started to get
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  Speaker 4: the better room.
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  Speaker 2: I remember not my roommate not being happy with me.
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  Speaker 2: We were friends, we picked each other, and I was
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  Speaker 2: a dirty slob and just just horrible.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, this goes to my other question. You said nobody
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  Speaker 6: was cleaning up the bathrooms. Who like, what if you
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  Speaker 6: go in and your roommate has.
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  Speaker 7: Her clothes everywhere or what happens?
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  Speaker 2: Then you fight? I mean, for me, we fought, and
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  Speaker 2: I was really embarrassed by it, and I was just
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  Speaker 2: at the point in my life where I just couldn't
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  Speaker 2: get it together. I just was a slob.
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  Speaker 7: Does the house person do your laundry too?
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  Speaker 4: No? No, no, you have to do.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, you're the website that you didn't have to
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  Speaker 6: clean the bathrooms.
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  Speaker 2: I'm done.
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  Speaker 4: One time Nicky wasn't there. But one time that there
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  Speaker 4: was like a weekend and only a few of us
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  Speaker 4: were there. Everybody went home for some reason and the
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  Speaker 4: furnace exploded and we all thought we were It was
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  Speaker 4: so gnarly, like I remember being like I think like
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  Speaker 4: something really like we're all going to die. But it
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  Speaker 4: was just the furnace. I never had a messy roommate.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think I was messy. Nikki, did you did
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  Speaker 4: you have someone messy?
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  Speaker 3: Well?
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  Speaker 5: I think there was only one or two washer dryers,
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  Speaker 5: And I actually remember having to sit down there.
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  Speaker 4: With quarters, right, I think we had quarters.
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  Speaker 3: They didn't let us use it for free. We did quarters.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And also we had Alsa units. Do you guys
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  Speaker 4: know what that is?
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  Speaker 5: That was very big Elsa They still have Elpa's at
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  Speaker 5: Container store.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So they were like in your closet, you'd hang some
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  Speaker 4: of your clothes and then you would have these like
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  Speaker 4: Elsa units, which were like drawers, but they were like
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  Speaker 4: wire and you'd literally get like lines in your underwear.
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  Speaker 4: But whatever, you didn't care. And then we had a dresser.
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  Speaker 4: I mean it was tight, but I don't remember it
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  Speaker 4: being like a problem.
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  Speaker 3: I loved living in the sorority.
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  Speaker 5: And now that I'm you know, obviously divorced and you know,
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  Speaker 5: almost fifty four and spend so much time with my
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  Speaker 5: friends who are also divorced or getting divorced, we all
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  Speaker 5: talk about living together again number one day and having
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  Speaker 5: like a modern version of austrority.
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  Speaker 3: And if you actually it's all over TikTok.
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  Speaker 5: These groups of friends that are buying homes are into communities.
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  Speaker 5: And I have to tell you agree, I loved every
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  Speaker 5: second of it. And when I go on girls trips
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  Speaker 5: with my friends, we share rooms, whereas all the guys
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  Speaker 5: will go on a trip they want their own room.
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  Speaker 2: My friends, I talk about down the road, we're going
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  Speaker 2: to get houses all next to each other in a
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  Speaker 2: tidy little community, and we're going to spend the whole
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  Speaker 2: day we when to meet it drinking and I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: play mob whatever, just live our lives. Yeah, but not
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  Speaker 2: the same room.
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  Speaker 4: No way that I could live in a big house
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  Speaker 4: like a mansion, because these sorties are basically mansions, right,
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  Speaker 4: And it was going to have I was going to
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  Speaker 4: have my room and all my meals would be served,
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  Speaker 4: and I'd have all my friends there, and this giant
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  Speaker 4: TV room and this giant living room and this giant
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  Speaker 4: kitchen and dining room, and I'd have a chef for
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  Speaker 4: all three meals. I'd have someone cleaning every day. All
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  Speaker 4: I have to do is basically like make my bed.
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  Speaker 2: That's called assisted living. My in laws. If you go
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  Speaker 2: down the road, that is the way that there. If
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  Speaker 2: that's what you want, there's a place down the road
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  Speaker 2: called the Bristol I get. Definitely.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe maybe we all live in authroorties when we're twenty,
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  Speaker 4: and then we all live them and again when we're eighty.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know I what it is.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna do. I talk about it all.
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  Speaker 5: I talked about any other thing we used to do,
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  Speaker 5: because when I was in college, it was the height of.
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  Speaker 3: Beverly Hills nine o two one zero and Melrose Place and.
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  Speaker 2: We would squish on whatever the night is that was
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  Speaker 2: the best, and we would all watch it.
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  Speaker 5: We have our yogurt park, and it was like the
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  Speaker 5: guys knew not to call and it was like such
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  Speaker 5: a fun thing to do.
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  Speaker 2: General Hospital, like during the day you were like one
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  Speaker 2: days of our lives.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the amount of gummy bears, gummy worms.
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  Speaker 3: Sour patch kids.
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  Speaker 4: When it was Burrito Bar, everybody lost their minds. They
• 13:56
  Speaker 4: were so stoked. They were like, it's Burrito Bar and
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  Speaker 4: it basically is just like imagine Chipotle in.
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  Speaker 1: Your right.
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  Speaker 4: Gourmet Chipotle course, and you're just like, what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: I did not appreciate it nearly enough. And we had breakfast.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of sorties don't have breakfast anymore, but we
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  Speaker 4: had like breakfast right and I couldn't. It ended at
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  Speaker 4: nine and I was so tired. I couldn't make it
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  Speaker 4: down in time.
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  Speaker 3: So I was always like there was.
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  Speaker 2: Always stuff there. There was always like cinnamon buns. We
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  Speaker 2: had like a warmer where you could always grab like
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  Speaker 2: if you were if it was too late, like cinnamon buns,
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  Speaker 2: or there was like underneath there was always like granola
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  Speaker 2: or whatever. There was always stuff waiting, all brand cereal.
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  Speaker 3: I remember. I remember we at least I'm older than Amy.
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  Speaker 3: Amy was in the same year as my sister. But
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  Speaker 3: my group of friends, we would do so many pranks to.
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  Speaker 5: Each other, so like we would short sheet the beds,
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  Speaker 5: or we would pour water. What they would like to
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  Speaker 5: do to me is they went around to every hair
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  Speaker 5: brush in the sorority. And I got in bed one
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  Speaker 5: night and the hair was all over my beautiful white sheet.
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  Speaker 5: I literally and then I used to I was really
• 15:01
  Speaker 5: into these hunter green cowboy half boots like I was
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  Speaker 5: known for it. I wore them and I got dressed
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  Speaker 5: the next morning no thinking, and I put my foot
• 15:11
  Speaker 5: in it and it was like a puff of hair.
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: I mean it was like constant jokes to each other.
• 15:16
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: See, we didn't do any of that. I remember just
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: learning how to put popcorn kernels in a brown lunch
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: sack and pop it in the microwave and then you
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: got popcorn and you just put some salt on that
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: and you'd have a bag of popcorn.
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: For those shows, someone was always on some kind of
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: a weird diet. I remember there was always weird stuff
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: like that going on everybody.
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: We need to do a whole episode about the weird
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: diet because.
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: People were throwing up in our bathrooms a lot. And
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: I always had the same lunch, which was and they
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: would tease me.
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: I come in.
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: I put broccoli, kidney beans, jon mustard, and bald on
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: ic vinegar like a psycho.
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: So that's sad.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: There was a lot of that. Then we'd all go
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: to jazz or Size together. Jazz house was big then.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys had that bike, but we.
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: Did not do JAZZI I don't remember anyone working out
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: whatsoever at all.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we do a lot of jazz Size.
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: I think we did.
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: People blasted like Sarah McLachlan and Metallica and Pearl Jam
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: And then we had a roof on the top where
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: people would lay out and they would like ditch class
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: and we would all be like frying ourselves from the rooftop.
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: It was can I say something. I loved every second
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: of it, absolutely, and.
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: We were friends with people of different Everyone was friends,
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: and it didn't matter if you were a senior or
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: a sophomore.
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: I would move back in to day if you've got
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: all those people that I live there with, you, Angie, Natalie,
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: like pige all our.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: Friends, Natalie or Junie.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: Today it was the best. I have to say you, guys,
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: I did not have. Clearly I did not have as
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: good of experience as you because I would not go
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: back in today, tomorrow, next week, next year, no way.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: And it was great and I loved it, but I
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: don't know, I mean, I don't know that I'd be
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: made for that.
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: Now I hear about people wanting to move out and
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: they don't want to live their senior year. They're getting
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: these apartments. I'm like, what are you doing? The sorority
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: is the greatest invention of all time. It is the
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: easiest life like you literally did not have to do
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: anything if.
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: You're a girl's girl, right, Like, I think for some
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: people it would be very sensory, overloads, super triggering to
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: be around so many girls, and girls can be tough,
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: so I think not everybody would subscribe to that kind
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: of a living situation.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: It could be overwhelming.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: It's not funny like you, guys. I don't remember like
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: a lot of the girls fighting though. I don't remember
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: fighting with anyone except I don't either. That was such
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: a pig. But I really don't.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: Are you friends with her still, Jennifer?
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: No, I know, I haven't talked to her in years.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: But we were. We were again, they were younger than
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: I was, right, but it was a requirement to live
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: in the house, so you transferred, right. So I was
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: living with girls that were younger. And she's a very
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: nice girl. I remember, like, very very smart, very studious,
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: very together, and I was just a hot mess. And
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: so but we were still. I mean, we loved each other.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: I remember that we laughed a lot, but it was
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: not I mean, we're not. We don't know each other now.
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: It's funny like Amy, I would say, Amy, probably more
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: than anybody has kept in touch with many many people.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: In that chapter.
• 18:24
  Speaker 9: I think that if you gave me one hour, I
• 18:27
  Speaker 9: could probably reach one hundred kappas.
• 18:32
  Speaker 7: I think in one hour.
• 18:33
  Speaker 9: If you gave me one hour and I'd have to
• 18:34
  Speaker 9: do anything else but just get a text trail going,
• 18:38
  Speaker 9: I think I could get a hundred.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: That should be an episode. We should actually watch that.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: How we should set the timer for one hour and
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: see what happens.
• 18:46
  Speaker 9: I'm probably of fifty in my phone right now. I
• 18:50
  Speaker 9: just really thrived in that environment. I just you know,
• 18:56
  Speaker 9: I think, I mean, look, it wasn't all unicorns and rainbows.
• 18:58
  Speaker 9: There's little things that like some boy makes you cry,
• 19:01
  Speaker 9: or you know, somebody gets mad that you kiss their
• 19:05
  Speaker 9: ex boyfriend or whatever that can happen.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: In every chapter.
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: I think what I've taught my kids too is like
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: for not every chapter is the best chapter, right, and
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: life is long. Like I would say, for me, high
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: school was my peaking moment. For sure, college was good,
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: but I would say high school for me is kind
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: of like your experience, Amy.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: I mean I liked college.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like what you're describing, Amy. I got
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: at like Sleepowoy Camp. That was my home away from homegrowning.
• 19:31
  Speaker 9: Yeah, everybody has their thing. Well, Jen, I know you
• 19:34
  Speaker 9: have a lot of people to talk to, but I
• 19:35
  Speaker 9: think we definitely need to like do part one, two, three,
• 19:38
  Speaker 9: and four because I feel like people are fascinated by
• 19:42
  Speaker 9: the whole thing.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, and we're gonna have to take an
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: hour and just see how many of your sisters.
• 19:49
  Speaker 9: Oh, well, i'd be I want to throw a party,
• 19:52
  Speaker 9: so this can be a challenge where I can invite
• 19:55
  Speaker 9: one hundred kappas to a party and see if I.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Come to it so far hour and then we'll do it.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: We'll do a podcast live live.
• 20:02
  Speaker 10: I love that idea.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: It was so funny.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: You guys, well, thank you for sharing. I appreciate you both.
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: And Jen, you want to live in our sorority with
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: us in a few years were really fun.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Nope, I am unlike you guys. I am not interested
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: in going back to a sorority house. I had a blast,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: I loved it. I just know I can't share a room.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: I could barely share room with my f and husband,
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: So no, there'll be none of that.
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: By the way, one last note, can you imagine a
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: soarty house today with like the bow to the modern
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: swarty house, like the bow Ties and the manicurist at
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: the house and people with the I mean, it would
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: be a whole different thing.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: I can't because my daughter graduated two years ago, and
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: so it was very different than what I had experienced.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Having said that, it was definitely her best year of college.
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: Amy, I have one memory now because when I talk
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: to them, but this is so now, I'm remembering, Oh
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: my god, this is horrible.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: So I was living one year with I was living
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: with Susan. I was living with Don and Tracy.
• 21:02
  Speaker 9: Okay, so that would be like a four girl Gaily
• 21:05
  Speaker 9: got it, or but like one.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: Of the better rooms, okay.
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: And all of a sudden, I was like, I think
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: I had the first yeast infection I'd ever had, and
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: I did not.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: Know what it was, and I literally thought I was dying.
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: When I tell you the laughter with them with me
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: and them calling my mom and laughing they had to
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: take me to urgent care, and the jokes about my
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: east infection.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: Oh, Nikki, are you making bread right now?
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: Do you want some bread for dinner? That's my one
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: thing I remember that where they did that, that was crazy.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, everybody's there to help.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: Everybody's there to help.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Love you guys. Bye, okay, you guys. So now joining us,
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: we have Emma, Candice and Caitlin, and these ladies all
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: live in the same house and one of them, Emma,
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: is the house manager. So, you guys, our listeners are
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: dying to hear about the experience that you're having. Maybe
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: we could start with you, Emma, what is it like
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: to be a house manager? Is it a ball? It
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: feels to me like it would be a mixed bag. Sometimes,
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: you know, really fun. These are your friends. Sometimes maybe
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: harder because you are also there to enforce the rules.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Tell us a little bit about that.
• 22:34
  Speaker 11: Yeah, it's definitely a hectic job. I feel like we've
• 22:37
  Speaker 11: kind of got a lot going on. It's a big house.
• 22:40
  Speaker 11: At the end of the day, the girls are all
• 22:41
  Speaker 11: my good friends, and I'm lucky enough to live in
• 22:43
  Speaker 11: a house where we actually like each other, so there's
• 22:46
  Speaker 11: not too much drama. But we are also college students,
• 22:50
  Speaker 11: so there's a lot of alcohol and boys sneaking in
• 22:55
  Speaker 11: and people maybe not following the rules. So like, yes,
• 22:58
  Speaker 11: it's great in terms of like cattiness that doesn't quite
• 23:01
  Speaker 11: exist in our own house, but there is a lot
• 23:06
  Speaker 11: of Hey, maybe don't puke on our carpets and that
• 23:10
  Speaker 11: kind of stuff.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Why well, Emma, why did you decide that you wanted
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: to be the house manager.
• 23:17
  Speaker 11: Honestly, our house was kind of ugly, and I knew
• 23:20
  Speaker 11: that I could maybe work to renovate some of it.
• 23:24
  Speaker 11: So actually this past year I got a budget of
• 23:26
  Speaker 11: about sixty five thousand dollars and we renovated our entire
• 23:29
  Speaker 11: downstairs get out. Yes, so that primarily just because it
• 23:34
  Speaker 11: was ugly and I wanted it to look better. But
• 23:36
  Speaker 11: in the meantime, I've kind of come to enjoy the
• 23:39
  Speaker 11: actual like management role.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Really, Okay, that's so cool. So okay, what kinde of
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: house manager is Emma handis?
• 23:51
  Speaker 8: I would say that she is very good at her job.
• 23:55
  Speaker 8: I would also say that she and I kind of
• 23:58
  Speaker 8: co manage a lot of things, and we are definitely
• 24:01
  Speaker 8: the most vocal voices in our group. Me just because
• 24:06
  Speaker 8: when we do have a renovated house and things are
• 24:08
  Speaker 8: so nice, you do have to remind people of certain rules.
• 24:11
  Speaker 12: And in our chapter, we have some issues.
• 24:15
  Speaker 8: We've had people throw up in the sinks, We've had
• 24:18
  Speaker 8: people throw up on carpets and couches, We've had people
• 24:24
  Speaker 8: have their friends sleep in the fire escape and there
• 24:28
  Speaker 8: was this whole room or going around that we had
• 24:29
  Speaker 8: like some sort of squatter. So we have had a
• 24:32
  Speaker 8: lot of things happen that we're definitely against the rules.
• 24:35
  Speaker 8: But I would say that Emma's really good at her job.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: What is the most fun thing having the keys?
• 24:43
  Speaker 11: Yeah, so I have like a big, huge thing of keys.
• 24:46
  Speaker 11: It has keys to every single door in the house,
• 24:48
  Speaker 11: the basement, the attic, all the things. I feel like
• 24:50
  Speaker 11: it's most fun because whenever she goes down, like I'm
• 24:54
  Speaker 11: the first to know, just because me or like our president,
• 24:57
  Speaker 11: because people you will usually text me like, hey, I
• 25:00
  Speaker 11: don't know if you noticed, but there's yack in the drains,
• 25:03
  Speaker 11: or I don't know if you knew, but there's someone
• 25:06
  Speaker 11: smoking meth on our porch.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know what's going on with ladies, with
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: your sorority. I'm getting a little concerned. I don't know
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: if I should talk to you. Emma's the house manager.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Is there a mother? There is there somebody. I guess
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: we have a house mother. You do yes so much
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: with the meth ladies.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: It wasn't us.
• 25:26
  Speaker 10: It was a homeless person.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: I'm very glad to hear that. Caitlin. What do you
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: love about living in the house.
• 25:35
  Speaker 13: I love that there's never a dull moment, As you've
• 25:37
  Speaker 13: already started to hear, there's always math, lots going on
• 25:41
  Speaker 13: exactly exactly. You really never know what you're gonna find
• 25:45
  Speaker 13: when you walk outside of our sorority house or walk inside.
• 25:49
  Speaker 13: I also like that we have sixty five closets at
• 25:53
  Speaker 13: all times, and there's so many people you can go
• 25:55
  Speaker 13: and talk to for different things, and it's been so
• 25:58
  Speaker 13: much fun.
• 25:59
  Speaker 10: But I'm all so excited to get out and not
• 26:02
  Speaker 10: have to deal with the chaos.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: So how is it? How is your How is your
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: house formated? Like for me when I lived in my house,
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: it was they were just two to a room period.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Do you guys have what's your situation? We? Do you
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: have singles? Do you have triples?
• 26:16
  Speaker 13: We have singles. We have a ten girl room. Actually
• 26:20
  Speaker 13: Candice and I have two out of the three singles.
• 26:24
  Speaker 13: The third one belongs to the president. But we have
• 26:27
  Speaker 13: rooms that have ten girls in them. Eight What is
• 26:29
  Speaker 13: that called the porch?
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Okay? So yeah, I was just I we didn't have
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: that in my house. Do the girls like living there.
• 26:38
  Speaker 13: So actually a lot of times the girls end up
• 26:41
  Speaker 13: living there because they have the least amount of house
• 26:43
  Speaker 13: points and they're not really choosing to live there, And
• 26:46
  Speaker 13: a lot of times they're not even really friends with
• 26:48
  Speaker 13: the other people who are picked in that pick to
• 26:51
  Speaker 13: be in that room with them. But our year, actually
• 26:55
  Speaker 13: the girls who got chosen to be in that room
• 26:58
  Speaker 13: are sophomore freshmen, are sophomore fall semester. Actually opted to
• 27:03
  Speaker 13: be in there again their spring semester, even though there
• 27:07
  Speaker 13: were so many empty rooms, just because of how much
• 27:09
  Speaker 13: I loved it and how much they became such a
• 27:12
  Speaker 13: tight knit friend group.
• 27:13
  Speaker 10: So people really good.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: I love that. That's very cool. So all right, so
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: tell me, I'm gonna say, Candice, Okay, tell me for you.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: What is the best and worst thing about living in
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: the house.
• 27:25
  Speaker 8: I would say best part, I agree with Caitlin, getting
• 27:30
  Speaker 8: to be close to everyone. Everyone is borrowing closed for
• 27:32
  Speaker 8: a game day or to go out, and it's very
• 27:35
  Speaker 8: like a great sense of community. I would say the
• 27:38
  Speaker 8: worst thing is a lot of people. Obviously it's a
• 27:42
  Speaker 8: very shared space and a lot of people don't have
• 27:47
  Speaker 8: I don't want to say, like the decency to be
• 27:49
  Speaker 8: respectful to others, but there's a lot of people who
• 27:51
  Speaker 8: that might not be the first thing at the top
• 27:53
  Speaker 8: of their head, and so there's obviously messes throw up
• 27:58
  Speaker 8: in the same thing we mentioned earlier, but also in
• 28:01
  Speaker 8: the spring when the house was at half capacity because
• 28:04
  Speaker 8: a lot of girls go abroad, people would pick up
• 28:09
  Speaker 8: secondary rooms. So during house picks, you could say you
• 28:13
  Speaker 8: were in a double and like live with another girl,
• 28:15
  Speaker 8: but you could also put your name on a room,
• 28:17
  Speaker 8: and people were using those rooms as like sex rooms,
• 28:23
  Speaker 8: and so each room had like a secondary room that
• 28:28
  Speaker 8: if they wanted to, their roommate could go there.
• 28:30
  Speaker 10: And Caitlyn can tell more about the story.
• 28:32
  Speaker 8: But we also had an issue with like a downstairs
• 28:35
  Speaker 8: bathroom breaking just because people were using that for different purposes.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, you guys, I am coming back as either Emma,
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Candice or Caitlin and living in that house because it
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: sounds like way more fun than I had at the
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: University of Texas in nineteen eighty nine. So math sex,
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: you had your own sex room, all right, So anyway,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: but Caitlyn, okay, so Kenda said you could tell us
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: a little bit more about that.
• 29:08
  Speaker 10: Yeah, in addition to having sex rooms.
• 29:10
  Speaker 13: People also are president, not this current term, but past
• 29:15
  Speaker 13: presidents have used their rooms to sell drugs. Out of
• 29:19
  Speaker 13: what is happening, I don't really know, And it's really
• 29:23
  Speaker 13: surprising because you would think we live in a fraternity
• 29:26
  Speaker 13: like with these kinds of stories, But the girls who
• 29:29
  Speaker 13: do these things are actually like very there are friends,
• 29:31
  Speaker 13: so it's not like it's some crazy, like one off
• 29:35
  Speaker 13: in our sorority. It's just people know they can get
• 29:39
  Speaker 13: away with things. They get caught up in college in general,
• 29:42
  Speaker 13: and they know that our house mom doesn't care that
• 29:46
  Speaker 13: much and is not that great at her job, so
• 29:48
  Speaker 13: they get away with a lot.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Because you're just already known as like sort of the party.
• 29:52
  Speaker 13: Girls, a kind of, but not particularly more than any
• 29:57
  Speaker 13: other house. We're definitely not known as the drug house
• 30:00
  Speaker 13: compared to other sororities, although as I've said, we do
• 30:05
  Speaker 13: see drugs.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Emma, this might be a little hard for you
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: to manage.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: No, I mean I.
• 30:11
  Speaker 11: Feel like, I mean, okay, the meth was a separate
• 30:15
  Speaker 11: situation that was like a homeless dude who was like
• 30:17
  Speaker 11: sitting on our porch and he was sitting crisscross apple
• 30:20
  Speaker 11: sauce with this like Fedora on and he's sitting there
• 30:23
  Speaker 11: with like tinfoil actively doing meth and he's like, I'm
• 30:26
  Speaker 11: gonna shower you guys. I want to wash you guys.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: Crazy shit. So, like there's stuff like that, but I
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: don't know.
• 30:33
  Speaker 11: I feel like drinking is probably the main thing that
• 30:35
  Speaker 11: I see, just because people are off like in the house,
• 30:38
  Speaker 11: yacking everywhere and stuff like that. But I haven't had
• 30:42
  Speaker 11: to sit anyone down and talk about their drug problem
• 30:44
  Speaker 11: yet yet.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Wait, Candice tell us about something called the letter.
• 30:50
  Speaker 8: So I was just recalling when we had our on
• 30:54
  Speaker 8: housed visitor. He actually left us a letter and and
• 31:00
  Speaker 8: some of like included people's names in the letter. So
• 31:04
  Speaker 8: what Emma's saying about him saying I want to shower
• 31:08
  Speaker 8: you or whatever he was saying. He actually left us
• 31:11
  Speaker 8: a little bit of a gift that Emma actually kept
• 31:14
  Speaker 8: to herself, did not share with anyone, and she let
• 31:18
  Speaker 8: her roommate find it and then the roommate sent it
• 31:21
  Speaker 8: into the group me. But it was like this letter, Emma,
• 31:24
  Speaker 8: do you want to share more?
• 31:25
  Speaker 11: Yeah, So after this whole incident, I called the police. Meanwhile,
• 31:28
  Speaker 11: I'm like fully blacked out. It's like three in the morning,
• 31:31
  Speaker 11: I've come home from a night out and I have
• 31:33
  Speaker 11: to call the cops and be like hey, and of
• 31:35
  Speaker 11: course the cop like leaves and takes the guy with them,
• 31:37
  Speaker 11: and she's like, have fun, but not too much fun
• 31:39
  Speaker 11: because clearly I'm drunk.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: Anyway.
• 31:41
  Speaker 11: So the next day I come back and there's a
• 31:43
  Speaker 11: letter at the front door and anything that's addressed to
• 31:45
  Speaker 11: our sorority. I open it up. And so I opened
• 31:48
  Speaker 11: it up and it's this written out letter girls' names
• 31:50
  Speaker 11: in our house.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: Is like I need like ten.
• 31:53
  Speaker 11: Million dollars to get to Puerto Rico. Like just gibberish,
• 31:57
  Speaker 11: all this gibberish, but I knew we're in a house
• 32:00
  Speaker 11: of dramatic twenty year old girls. Like I was like,
• 32:03
  Speaker 11: someone's gonna freak out. I'm just gonna keep this to myself.
• 32:06
  Speaker 11: I put in a plastic bag. I was like, if
• 32:07
  Speaker 11: he ever comes back, it's evidence, like whatever. My roommate
• 32:10
  Speaker 11: found it and didn't consult me, took a photo of
• 32:13
  Speaker 11: it and send it to a group chat, and all
• 32:15
  Speaker 11: of a sudden, everyone knows that I'm like shit, and
• 32:17
  Speaker 11: it had been like months since I had Like I
• 32:19
  Speaker 11: detext story one and be like hey, like it's Okay,
• 32:21
  Speaker 11: it was months ago, like he's not coming back.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: Don't worry.
• 32:23
  Speaker 11: But then like ay had their thing, So.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: All right, Okay, let's just for a moment move off
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: of the meth smoking, crazy homeless lunatic. Tell me a
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: little bit about like what's fun that I don't know,
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Like for us at night, and we had some women
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: on just now that were talking about the olden days,
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: like the days I come from, but like sitting around
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: at night and we had like common areas and just
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: you know, everybody was obsessed or like for me, we
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: love soap operas. I don't even know if you know
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: what that is at this point, but like during the
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: day we'd all like be together watching or Beverly Hills
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: nine or two one Oho or whatever it was. Do
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: you guys have that Do you have like where we're
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: going to just like congregate and is it do you
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: have that feel to it?
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 33:04
  Speaker 11: We actually have a TV room and people watch. I
• 33:09
  Speaker 11: think it was the summer I turned pretty there was
• 33:11
  Speaker 11: a whole watch party every week. I think on Wednesday nights,
• 33:13
  Speaker 11: everyone would go sit and watch what was it Dancing.
• 33:16
  Speaker 10: With the Stars.
• 33:18
  Speaker 11: People will sit there and sometimes it's a random show
• 33:20
  Speaker 11: playing and people will just join. I've had so many
• 33:23
  Speaker 11: conversations where I'm just like, I walk by after dinner
• 33:26
  Speaker 11: and I'm like, oh, I really love that movie and
• 33:28
  Speaker 11: I'll just sit and it's the most random people that
• 33:30
  Speaker 11: I normally wouldn't though, right, And yeah, I wouldn't normally
• 33:34
  Speaker 11: like sit and spend hours with them on end, usually
• 33:36
  Speaker 11: the girls. But it's really nice to get to know people.
• 33:39
  Speaker 11: And then after I'm like, oh, now, like when I
• 33:40
  Speaker 11: see you in the halls, I know you like so much.
• 33:43
  Speaker 11: And then Candice, you were talking about something on porch.
• 33:47
  Speaker 8: Yes, we also have this outdoor porch area that leads
• 33:50
  Speaker 8: into our backyard, and we have a lot of people
• 33:53
  Speaker 8: in our house that like to play guitar and are
• 33:55
  Speaker 8: really good at singing, so everyone love that. Yes, everyone
• 33:58
  Speaker 8: will go outside, and our house carries sound very well,
• 34:02
  Speaker 8: so you can hear people outside singing and playing instruments
• 34:05
  Speaker 8: and it's so cool. It's so fun, and we definitely
• 34:08
  Speaker 8: have great sisterhood within the house despite all of the craziness.
• 34:12
  Speaker 8: But I feel like the craziness is part of having
• 34:15
  Speaker 8: a great house culture and having great sisterhood.
• 34:17
  Speaker 10: So you got to give to get a little listen.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: I am so excited for you guys that you are
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: having this great experience. I'm also a little worried for
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: the three of you, but I'm going to leave that
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: to your very capable mothers. But listen, I want you
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: to enjoy every minute, but I should be careful. Please
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: we will well, no more okay, no more mess smoking
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: homeless people on the porch. All right, guys. So next
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: we have Emily joining us. Hi, Emily, Hi, Jennifer, how
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: are you Hi. I'm doing very well. This is a
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: very very fun episode for me. We are talking about
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: living in your sorority house. I lived about ten million
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: years ago, and we've had some ladies here telling us
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: some wild stories. But tell me a little bit about
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: your experience.
• 35:21
  Speaker 14: I went to a very big university and Greek life
• 35:26
  Speaker 14: was kind of like relatively big.
• 35:29
  Speaker 10: I mean definitely can't compare anything to like the South
• 35:31
  Speaker 10: or the Midwest. But we had a lot of houses
• 35:35
  Speaker 10: on the road.
• 35:35
  Speaker 14: It was like one straight shot of all sorority houses,
• 35:39
  Speaker 14: and we basically like every house mom besides ours was.
• 35:44
  Speaker 10: Like, I don't know, sixty five years old, and.
• 35:48
  Speaker 14: Our house mom was a ripe twenty five years old,
• 35:52
  Speaker 14: So she was basically like another member exactly, and she
• 36:00
  Speaker 14: like not only act that like it, but like let
• 36:02
  Speaker 14: us act our like to our full potential. And it
• 36:06
  Speaker 14: was like so much so that there was in this
• 36:08
  Speaker 14: I heard from other girls like there was like kind
• 36:10
  Speaker 14: of like a a thing to get her kicked off
• 36:14
  Speaker 14: because she was too chill and too fun and.
• 36:16
  Speaker 10: Like would let us do really?
• 36:18
  Speaker 14: I mean nothing like insane, but like other house moms
• 36:22
  Speaker 14: wouldn't like girls like even like guys weren't even allowed
• 36:24
  Speaker 14: to the front door, you know, and our house mom
• 36:26
  Speaker 14: like didn't care who you was in the house at
• 36:29
  Speaker 14: any time, right, But yeah, she was amazing.
• 36:33
  Speaker 10: I still think about her all the day all the time.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Well what year did you live in the house?
• 36:37
  Speaker 14: I lived in sophomore year, the year that like most
• 36:40
  Speaker 14: people live in at my school.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Okay, And like how many girls were there?
• 36:44
  Speaker 14: I think they're probably like, oh god, like maybe like
• 36:48
  Speaker 14: fifty or sixty. I think I could be like that's
• 36:50
  Speaker 14: kind of like a high number. But we had a
• 36:53
  Speaker 14: huge house.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Was it a nice house? Like? Was it was it comfortable?
• 36:56
  Speaker 10: Was it?
• 36:57
  Speaker 14: Yeah?
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Terms of what were there, like what was set up
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: with their singles? Doubles, triples.
• 37:02
  Speaker 14: How that was like literally everything It kind of just
• 37:06
  Speaker 14: felt like like it was like a It was like
• 37:08
  Speaker 14: kind of like an insane asylum, like you would walk in. No,
• 37:10
  Speaker 14: it was amazing, it was beautiful, but it was just
• 37:12
  Speaker 14: like there were like no rules kind of so like
• 37:17
  Speaker 14: we like you'd walk in this beautiful courtyard, like the
• 37:21
  Speaker 14: actual house is like in a gorgeous area and a
• 37:25
  Speaker 14: very beautiful house, and then the rooms were like you
• 37:29
  Speaker 14: could have anything from like a single to like I
• 37:32
  Speaker 14: had a like a quad and my mom used to
• 37:35
  Speaker 14: call it like the house in the air because Mike
• 37:37
  Speaker 14: I would like wake up and my head would like
• 37:39
  Speaker 14: bang against the ceiling because that's like how crazy the
• 37:43
  Speaker 14: bunk bed situation was.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Would you change that? Looking back, like, I know that
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: that's probably you probably dreaded it. But then some people
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: come out of that and they're like that was the
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: best situation I could have had.
• 37:53
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I feel like.
• 37:54
  Speaker 14: In the moment, even in the moment, I knew it
• 37:56
  Speaker 14: was one of those things where I was like, hey,
• 37:57
  Speaker 14: like this is the most uncomfortable I've ever been, but
• 37:59
  Speaker 14: all so like the happiest, Like I love that. Yeah,
• 38:04
  Speaker 14: I mean, like I would like come home drunk and
• 38:06
  Speaker 14: like nearly crack my head open trying to like climb
• 38:09
  Speaker 14: up my bed.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: But did you fight? Did fight with the girls in
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: your room?
• 38:14
  Speaker 14: No?
• 38:14
  Speaker 10: There was never ever fighting.
• 38:16
  Speaker 14: That's something that I feel like a lot of people
• 38:18
  Speaker 14: that weren't in Greek life would always ask me like, oh,
• 38:21
  Speaker 14: have you fought with the girls?
• 38:23
  Speaker 10: Are you catty? Like what's kind of like the vibe?
• 38:26
  Speaker 10: And yeah, I was always like, oh my gosh, like.
• 38:29
  Speaker 14: Never, I feel like there's I mean, there's you put
• 38:31
  Speaker 14: like sea girls in a house. There's it's like impossible
• 38:33
  Speaker 14: to not have like zero like any drama.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: But no, I was telling these guests before that with me,
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: I had a double and my roommate just hated me
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: because I was such a slot because yeah, and she
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: couldn't and I understand looking back now why she right.
• 38:48
  Speaker 10: But I mean I think you were just all pigs.
• 38:52
  Speaker 10: I think it was just like like honestly, to be completely.
• 38:55
  Speaker 14: Honest, like I feel like I see things all the
• 38:57
  Speaker 14: time of like oh, these like clean girl houses and
• 38:59
  Speaker 14: they have their chefs, and like we had that, but
• 39:01
  Speaker 14: we were just like a bunch of like twenty year
• 39:04
  Speaker 14: olds just like I.
• 39:06
  Speaker 10: Don't even know, like who could be more to yes, exactly,
• 39:10
  Speaker 10: you would. You would have fit right in, Like you
• 39:12
  Speaker 10: would wake up on like I don't even know, like
• 39:14
  Speaker 10: a Saturday or a Sunday after.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: A night out, those sheets on the bed.
• 39:18
  Speaker 10: Yeah, someone puked in the hallway, you know what I mean.
• 39:22
  Speaker 14: Like it was one of those things where it was like,
• 39:24
  Speaker 14: oh my god, someone like definitely mixed gatorade.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: Oh my god.
• 39:27
  Speaker 14: We had this like like fountain drink machine and we
• 39:30
  Speaker 14: called it the mixy machine, and it was always like you.
• 39:34
  Speaker 10: Knew someone cuked, like what machine they had used?
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: It was really.
• 39:40
  Speaker 10: Yeah, there was like yeah, you can still you can
• 39:42
  Speaker 10: still smell some of it.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: Thank you, miss Emily. All Right, guys, so next we're
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: going to talk to Mary. Mary as a very interesting
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: viewpoint on living in the house because she lived in
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: her house during COVID.
• 39:56
  Speaker 12: Hi Mary, Hi Jen, Thanks for having me on, Thank you.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: For joining us. Tell us what it was like, and
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: I honestly, I mean, my daughter couldn't even start school
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: because she was an incoming freshman and they shut it down.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: So I'm I'm trying to picture they even even allowing
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: you to live in a house together during COVID.
• 40:16
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I think it was kind of the plan.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: When the school year started, you know, we collected all
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: the points, got assigned the room before.
• 40:24
  Speaker 12: COVID, and then it hit.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: I went to a school in Colorado, and essentially we
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: were all allowed to come back. And then as soon
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: as we were back and moved in, then we got
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: the rules in place where there was a city mandate lockdown,
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: then there was a state mandate lockdown, and then there
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: was a school lockdown, and then there was a sorority
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: lockdown where fifty percent of the girls in my sorority
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: got COVID and we had a an anex house that
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: is where.
• 40:57
  Speaker 12: You're like banished to yeah, and you couldn't leave.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: There was a balcony and I wasn't a part of
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: that group, but it was just like a sick house
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: where everyone was just living on top of each other
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: for two weeks and you couldn't go back into the
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: main house to get any of your items.
• 41:18
  Speaker 12: People would have to bring them to the door.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: That's horrible.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: So then there was a period of time where my
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: sorority gave everyone in the house the option was to
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: either lock down in the house because then we had
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: to shut down, not only the annex, but the main house,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: or you had to leave for two weeks, but you weren't.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: If you lived out of state, you weren't allowed to
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: fly home, and so you had to find another option.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: So a couple of me and my girlfriends drove to
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Arizona and stayed at her house in Arizona for two
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: weeks because her parents weren't there.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Well, you have anything good to say about your experience
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: your house.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: That is how I became close with twenty five girls,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: and they it definitely some people kind of got lost
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: in the mix, but I could not be closer to
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: the girls I'm with, and it's because we lived on
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: top of each other.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is so are you still you still are
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: like that?
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 42:20
  Speaker 12: Our group chat is still up and at them it was.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: It was definitely a hard period of time because it
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: was sixty five girls living on top of each other,
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: right like, and it was no other year was like
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: that in the past, Like everyone would go to class,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: or you would maybe have lunch together, maybe have dinner together.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: But we had every single meal together in that house.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: And were you guys? You have online classes time, so.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: No one wanted to take their classes in their rooms
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: because you spent too much time in your room. So
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: we had long dining tables which you could never get
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: a seat at. And then we have a basement which
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: you could also barely get a seat at. Because it
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: was sixty five girls.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: And what was Tell me like one thing about it
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: that you remember that was actually really fun.
• 43:11
  Speaker 12: We did movie nights, movie nights, We had game nights.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: We played this game called One Night Ultimate werewolf light
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: candles ordering food.
• 43:22
  Speaker 12: There was a ton of memories.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: We would sneak alcohol in pre game, really hard pre game.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Where was the game game?
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, there was.
• 43:33
  Speaker 12: Periods of time where we were allowed to leave the house.
• 43:36
  Speaker 12: It was rare, you know, in between all the lockdowns.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: But when we were allowed to leave the house, then
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: we would go party at the frat houses and then
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: get in trouble and then you know, get locked down.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: I would definitely say that everyone lost their marbles. And
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: then it was nice because we sealed that year in
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: a really pretty pink bow with a trip to Cabo
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: and everything was kind of lifted. So it was it
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: was a tough year mentally for everyone, but it ended
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: up creating really long lasting friendships.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Would you change it, like if you could if you
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: could go back and live in the house not during COVID, Like,
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: would you switch your experience?
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: You think, No, I wouldn't switch my experience, but I
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: would not live in the house again. It was it
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: was really tough, I think, just because we were all
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: living on top of each other and just it being
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: that period of time that it was.
• 44:34
  Speaker 12: Yeah, it was just it was just challenging to live
• 44:37
  Speaker 12: with so many girls all at once.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: So Mary, it was challenging to live in my house
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: with a husband and two kids. So I can only
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: imagine what it was like to live with that many girls.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: It's just it had to be rough. Yeah, but it
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: sounds like it was sort of worth it. I mean,
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: you have these relationships now that that have endured.
• 44:55
  Speaker 12: Yeah, it was. It was for sure worth it.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: I think it was just a It's also just like
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: a hard period of time to become a woman, because
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: everyone wants to grow their education, grow their status, become independent,
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: and so everyone's kind of like it's like a battle
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: between everyone and then it turns out Okay.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: Do you think that happens not just during COVID but
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: in houses in general, I would assume.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: So I remember talking with my little before she moved
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: into the house, and I told her blatantly that it
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: was just it was difficult for me, but it was
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: the best challenge I put myself through.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: Interesting. Yeah, that's so great. Well, I mean, I'm so
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: happy you look back on it and look back on
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: it in a positive way. I'm sure there are I
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: would think there would be some of your sisters that
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: maybe don't look back in it with such fond memories.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: But I'm glad that you have all of these people now,
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: these lifelong friends that you you know, what you got
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: you went through the battle with.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course we have some of our We have
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: some great story worries that happened, like one of them
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: being that a bat came into our house and it
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: was living in our house for two weeks because girls
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: saw it, and then no one could catch it, and
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: then it was rediscovered hanging in.
• 46:15
  Speaker 12: Someone's room, and so then the two girls had to
• 46:18
  Speaker 12: get tetnis shots.
• 46:19
  Speaker 14: Ah.
• 46:22
  Speaker 12: Gross, absolutely disgusting.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah that's scary. Yeah, all right, my friends. So I
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: love talking to those young ladies and older ladies about
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: their experiences. I mean, it was such an It was
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: like this little tiny nugget in my life living in
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: the A five house at the University of Texas, and
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: I have really fond memories of it, and I have
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: memories that are not so fond, But I hope all
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: the girls feel like this. I would certainly not change
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: it because I mentioned my daughter tried everything to get
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: out of living in her sorority house at the University
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: of Delaware. She couldn't get out of it. It was
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: her best year, so to be continued. Thanks you guys
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: so much for listening, and we have a really exciting
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: episode coming next, so stay tuned.