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The Lunch Discussion - Altrincham Youth Choir Launch: Sing Frozen and Find Your Voice · The Discussion Podcast

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So today on the Late Late Lunch Show, the lunch discussion is about music.
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It's about a choir, a new youth choir coming to Ultrigan. And I'm speaking to,
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Callie Udall and also to Simon Passmore, who are the people behind it.
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How are you guys? Good, thanks. How are you?
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I'm very well. I'm very well. So music, singing, choirs, you've got me already.
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I'm passionate about them all. But Callie, can I turn to you first of all,
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and just talk about your background in music, because you are a professional soprano singer.
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So, I mean, there's your criteria already, but how did you get into singing?
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I think the first thing was a video of me singing Pocahontas on the toilet around
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age five that my parents decided, OK, we want to get her singing lessons.
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And then I joined Chester Junior Choir, their kind of preludes,
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it was called, from age seven.
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And with that choir, I toured to Poland and Prague. And I think we came runner
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up in Sainsbury's Choir of the Year or something.
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So then I had the bug, joined Chester Cathedral Voluntary Choir,
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because I was a bit too old to be a girl chorister, which I was upset about at the time.
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And then i went on to do two years for my gap years at christchurch cathedral
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in dublin and judy martin at the time it was the only cathedral in the british
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isles that had female choristers so that was,
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pretty much the only place that i could have done that and i was really lucky to get wow.
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And and simon you you you guys met at the royal northern college of music that's
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right yeah yeah went at the same time at,
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10, 15 years ago-ish. 15. 15 years ago, not 10. Wow. And that is in Manchester, isn't it?
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That's right, yeah, yeah, just on Oxford Road. Okay. It's Manchester's only
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music conservatoire, I think.
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Yeah. That is right, actually. There were three conservatoires in the North.
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Actually, yeah, yeah, that's a good point.
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And then you teach at Chatham's School of Music, Simon. That's right,
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yeah. I'm full-time there Monday to Friday.
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And my job there is basically just kind of coaching the kids on whatever instrument
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they play or if they sing, they just come into my room and we kind of play through
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whatever they're working on.
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And I just kind of help them improve it. We're going to talk about the benefits of being in a choir.
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And I have to say also, I'm going to ask you about the challenges of it,
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because, you know, it's actually, it can be like herding cats,
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I can imagine, but just the power of bringing people together,
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teaching them how to sing and getting them singing together.
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And then they find their voices. It's quite an experience. And it must be a
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joy for you guys as well. So today we're talking about a new youth choir coming to Ultringham.
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It is called the Ultringham Youth Choir. Is that right, Callie?
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It is, yeah. We thought it was time Ultringham had its own youth choir.
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There you go. So we're going to be talking to Callie and to Simon Moore about
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that in a couple of minutes' time.
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You're listening to Radio Alty. It's Rod Maxwell on the Lely Lunch Show.
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And today I'm delighted to be speaking with Kelly Udall and Simon Passmore about
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their new venture, bringing a new youth car to the town.
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Callie, you clearly have been singing for a long, long time.
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What have you found it has given you, over and above, just the joy of singing
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and music? But what has singing brought to you?
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It's given me lifelong friendships. It's given me opportunities that I absolutely
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would never have had. I went to a state school. I didn't go to a private school.
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I didn't have classical music all around me.
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So it gave me access to that classical music and musical training that I wouldn't
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have had were you singing from ear or
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had you learned about being able to read music I mean was that something that
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you learned and and the technical side of music or was it still very much about the feeling if you like,
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I think when you're that young when you are when you're a child and a young
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person inquires for a lot of,
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children I think it's something that happens a bit more organically because
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sight reading it's quite a difficult skill to learn but that availability and
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access to the music and singing it every week is what makes it easier to happen quickly,
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and you were singing you you mentioned to me that you were one of the few females in a,
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choristers was that in did you say double yeah christ church cathedral the anglican
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cathedral day yes yeah church of cathedral i believe and,
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yeah i was there two years yeah and i mean a lot of the cathedral choirs at
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that time were mostly all all boys which,
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uh somewhat i always think was incredibly sexist actually but i actually sang
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in the cathedral choir myself we had a couple of girls
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sing with us also but that that being in that environment must have been quite
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incredible you You must have sang in some fantastic places.
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We sang five services a week at the cathedral. It was a real, real education.
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I definitely got good at sight reading during that time.
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And I mean, having sang in the Cathedral Choir myself, I actually used to love
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the Psalms and I used to love the different structures of the Psalms and the way you had,
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a piece of music to the words that were always different. You learned quite
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a bit when you were doing that, didn't you?
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Yeah, you have to really, really watch the conductor because there's no kind
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of exact rhythm to it. It's just you have to listen very closely to each other.
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And Simon, when did your musical career take off? When did you feel that you
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had some music inside you?
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Same as Cali, actually. I just went to state school up in the northeast in Northumberland
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and joined the local church choir and then was just hooked from there.
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And when I became a teenager, joined Key Voices, it was called,
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on Newcastle, Quayside.
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And that was an introduction to more non-church music, which was also amazing. Loved them both.
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And then just since then I've always kind of been involved in choirs somehow
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that was one of the first things I looked at when looking for somewhere to go to,
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uni or college was like what choirs are there nearby because like once you've
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started it it's just it's amazing yeah and I take it then you've added instrumentation
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to to what you do or pretty much yeah I mean but when I started in the choir
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the director of the choir also gave piano lessons so
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I was lucky enough to get lessons with him and then after that just kind of
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probably took it too seriously and ended up doing it as a job.
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So still, the piano is my main job today.
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No, well, I was singing back in the eighties. You were, you were not,
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it wasn't particularly trendy to sing with the choir.
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And, and it took me a long time to join our school choir from,
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even though I was singing with the cathedral choir for ages,
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because I, I, I thought that it wasn't trendy and the kids would take the mick out of me basically.
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But in the last, even I would say 10 years.
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It has that sort of that sort of feeling or that sort of a premise about it
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has changed massively and it's it's opened up it to probably a lot more children
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who would never have thought about joining a formal choir and certainly the way it's done now,
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where that formality has been
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taken out of it is it makes a big difference doesn't it call it yeah it's.
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Been cool but now people are realizing they're cool yeah and that not that is
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a lot down to how much it's now on tv and i forget the guy who.
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Yeah exactly yeah and and so they have made it more acceptable and people are,
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you see the joy in singing now yeah yeah absolutely children love singing like
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i have a four-year-old she sings all the time yeah i've heard my kids as well
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i think it's about keeping that joy going and developing it helping them
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yeah keep keep the joy of it yeah and when i mean if they do it together just
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being in a choir you learn so many,
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like important life skills that will definitely come in useful when they're
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older like if you sing together in a group you learn kind of you learn teamwork you gain confidence
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you learn to deal with nerves if you're nervous about singing in front of people
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it's so much easier when you do it as a group and for many people a lot more
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enjoyable as well it's you know it's it's like a good sense of community it's
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just it's all positives really.
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Yeah and beautiful music and I guess as children so they have the joy when they're
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younger but as they get older they need more of a challenge and that's what
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we hope to give them with this choir
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because children are able to take on much greater musical challenges often than people expect.
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A lot of choirs think maybe.
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Songs that children just want to sing the pop songs that they know but actually,
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if you give them some of this spectacular choral music that they would never
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have access to maybe they've never heard it before
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and teach it them from the inside and then they get to know all these harmonies
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and beautiful melody lines and yeah and the more more challenging it is sometimes
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the more rewarding it can be to.
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Perform yeah well i i'm going to come back to you and ask you about that technique i I mean,
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the differences between teaching young children to sing and adults.
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And how do you manage that? And keep it fun, because if it's not fun,
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it doesn't work really. So today we're talking about singing.
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We're talking about a new youth choir.
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It's the Alti Youth Choir. And I'm talking today to Callie and Simon.
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Take a break. We'll be back with them in a couple of minutes.
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So you both obviously have deep experience in singing and being in choirs.
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But can you tell me some of the unique maybe challenges of taking young people,
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and actually teaching them to to sing what what are some of the things that
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you have to be cognizant of and and and maybe do a little bit differently to
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what you would do with an adult oh.
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This one is easier to get adults to listen to.
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A tricky one i think that from a technical point of view this is more your area
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cali but of course there's voice changes when when you're a teenager for the
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boys and it's sometimes it's quite tricky to deal with that in terms of vocal health yes,
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but um i guess it's just in terms of general approach it's just the same really
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it's the music's there you love singing it whether you're an adult or a child and
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it's all the same things it's the sense of teamwork and singing together yeah i feel like maybe
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some kids might get distracted more easily than adults some kids i mean all
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kids i guess concentration fan is,
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more of a problem but then the challenge is making it more fun and engaging
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for them and that's kind of i feel like on the choir leader,
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and i guess part of it is maybe some adults will be better at sight reading
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because they're just over their time but if you're a young child.
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And you have no history of singing you're literally going on memory so you've
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got to break it down into chunks rely on their memory,
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more of the rehearsal will be note learning which yeah we just but that's fine
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that's normal it's just like kind of immersing yourself in a foreign country
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to learn the language like you just kind of,
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it just goes through by osmosis in a way so even if you have like no experience
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of singing or reading any music actually i think that we put that right on the flyer.
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The kids don't need to be able to read or sight read or have any previous music
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theory knowledge to come and sing for us. No, and we'll have professional accompanists
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as well at every rehearsal, so they will help with the music learning.
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And as people who've been involved in choirs, you must have seen the joy of
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seeing somebody realizing they have a voice and starting to really enjoy it.
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And that must be a very precious moment when you see somebody and they go, I can do this.
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I have a voice. Yes. And the amazing thing about working with children is if
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you have a child who is in the choir for many years or you're working with for
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many years, you really see that.
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Yeah. It's not necessarily very quick. it might be a period of a year or two
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years to see them growing and,
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deepening their enjoyment of music it's very special,
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well there's somebody who wasn't particularly sporty primary school when i,
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when i started to sing it actually gave me something that was a bit unique to me,
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and and i i built my confidence greatly in fact i i but i still remember my first ever solo
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on a Christmas Eve service, probably 1981, and I did once in Royal Davis City with just.
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The single note at the back of the church.
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And I lost the goodness. I wish I could replicate that, redo that again.
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You know, it's one of those moments where you think, and I remember my sister
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saying to me just before the service went, don't mess this up.
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And suddenly I was like a nightmare but but,
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that you know those situations they do build character and they they they do
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give you some other other skills
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really absolutely yeah yeah it's a great example of the performance the,
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this pressure of that moment and learning to deal with those situations that's,
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one of the many things that you can learn yeah yeah massively yeah,
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Oh, it's a big one. That kicks off Christmas, really, for churches.
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It kicks off Christmas. I'll tell you now, I still have nightmares about it,
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honestly, Simon. But I think I never liked reading that much in primary school.
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And I didn't have any confidence reading out loud. But singing was totally different.
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And it was more automatic.
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And that actually gave me personally a lot of strength, a lot of confidence and,
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i'm sure you've seen that with children you've been around and something yeah
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there's some magic about music it just i don't know how to explain it like it
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like you say somehow you can read when when you're doing it as part of music
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and like even things like,
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uh you know alzheimer's and dementia it and music has such a huge impact on
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that i remember my gran who had dementia could just couldn't talk but then if
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you play or sing a tune to it all the words perfectly.
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There's something magic about it. There's a choir in Ultringham and it's associated
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with the music place and there's a dementia choir.
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And I've seen that witnessed that myself and again it's that feeling of people's
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face light up when they sing it's something and you're giving them that gift
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that's a very nice thing to be able to do.
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Yeah absolutely. I was director of St Anne's church choir in the city centre
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in Manchester for about seven years and it's just an amateur choir but they're
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all Brilliant, brilliant. And there's a few music professionals in there,
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but not necessarily professional singers.
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And it was the ones who had the least experience in music who just came out
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and were just like, this is like a core memory forever.
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And for me as well. But I remember one woman who was a GP who was in tears after
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we sang this thing up in Durham Cathedral. She was just saying,
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that memory will stay forever. And it was just incredible.
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It's the most amazing thing to be singing in a choir.
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Apparently they really missed him. They really missed him.
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Well I'm not surprised you know but and again I think you know there's somebody
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who can be very technically good with music but when you're conducting a choir,
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it needs something more than that it needs personality engaging with people you can't just be,
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a teacher you have to be almost something more I mean is do you have you find
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that as you've been working with singers for example yes absolutely I mean I've
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got about sort of between 40 and 50 students one-to-one at I.
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Feel like I'm a different person with each of them because they all work differently
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and you have to get to know them and see how they click and what's their best
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way of learning and stuff.
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And also I think being a parent helps a lot. Absolutely, yeah.
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You find solutions. Yeah. More great skill set than before becoming a parent,
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working with children for sure.
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Simon used to play for all my singing lessons and competitions and exams and
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stuff at the Royal Northern and we're still friends 15 years later.
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So I think he's pretty good. It's a good chemistry to go into business together.
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And coming back to the point about emotion, I've been in singing and sometimes
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almost been in tears when I hear the power that joint voices makes.
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It's a real emotion about it. And for kids to have that opportunity is really special.
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I've got to take a break. I want to come back and talk about what you want to sing.
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If people are joining the choir, what's your repertoire going to be?
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Because I'm sure there'll not be choral music, which we were talking about before.
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But today we're talking about singing we're talking about the ultram youth choir
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we're talking to the two people behind us callie and also to
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simon and we'll be back with them in a couple of minutes time so when did you
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decide you wanted to form this
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it's a business but it's a it's a choir it's a it's,
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it's giving something back but it is a business when did you decide you wanted to to do this,
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i moved here i'm from the northwest but i moved back in february from London,
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and I haven't been singing for a couple of years because raising my daughter and other things,
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But just being back where I studied and where all of my musical training and
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most of the experiences were and then being in the same city as Simon and his
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family and we were all spending time together again, just started to feel like,
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a really beautiful thing way back into music and also something that I personally
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felt Altrincham really needed.
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There's so much musical talent in this area, in Trafford, but specifically in Altrincham and Hale.
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And I really feel strongly that children around here can cope with a high-level youth choir.
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I mean, a lot of the primary schools are good at doing that.
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And I often feel for the teachers taking on something like a Joseph,
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you know, because you've got the, you know, teaching them how to act,
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You've seen him singing, you've got the costumes.
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But I remember my old son, who's now 25 and sang for a long time,
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when he got given the part of Joseph, it absolutely changed his whole personality,
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and gave him so much more confidence.
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And it was quite amazing seeing him up on stage, having not really heard him
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sing that much. Suddenly he's there. And.
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It's a really powerful thing. and kids get the lovely thing i find about it
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is kids don't realize they think they're having fun,
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and they are having fun they don't get they don't realize all the other things
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that are coming with that do they no because they love they do love learning
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and they love being busy i can tell my daughter the times when she is,
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the craziest is when she's not being challenged or busy.
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Left to her own devices. So what sort of stuff? What's going to be the repertoire
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of the Ultringham Youth Choir?
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So we've got a come and sing day on December the 5th. For that day,
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it's just one kind of piece, which is a selection of pieces.
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It's the choral suite from the Disney film Frozen.
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And it's a good opportunity for everyone to learn some Old Norse,
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which is the language of the Vikings.
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I've got a Norwegian friend, Runa, who lives in a town called Arendelle,
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which was the basis of this Frozen film. and he's going to teach me the Old
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Norse, which we'll then teach the kids.
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And we thought that might be a good kind of fun thing to do for a kind of come
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and sing day, so if we can see what it's about, sing music that they'll probably recognise.
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I think most kids have probably seen Frozen. Then when we do regular sessions,
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in the new year, it'll just be a really good mix of great music, I hope.
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There are lots of choirs around Ultering that kind of specialise in some things,
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like for example there's church choirs where you'd be singing only sacred music,
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and there's little belters that does like a musical theater and pop and stuff
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and we're going to kind of we'll do,
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modern stuff as well as stuff from the past you know 500 years or so yeah it's
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going to be a very broad range,
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uh going to be exciting yeah it'll be something for everyone definitely.
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Simon mentioned it briefly for the come and sing day we're going to be singing
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obviously in old norse because that's the language that frozen,
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frozen sings in but choirs are also just a fabulous place for children to get
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access to all of these different languages and start to learn German, Italian, Latin.
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I was singing in French in the church choir in Hexham before I even knew what
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French was really. You just learned the sounds, learned how it looked on the
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page and then found, oh yeah, I'm going to do that at GCSE. It feels a bit easier.
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And I used to always love how when you sang a word, you often pronounced it
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slightly differently and you learned phonetically without really realizing that you were.
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But once you hooked into that, you just got it and you stayed with it.
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But you don't need to know all the theory behind that. You just go, that's the way we do it.
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And then you see the word in a different way, if you like. Exactly.
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One of the one really core youth choir piece is Bob Chilcock's Can You Hear
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Me? And very often choirs learn sign language to accompany that piece.
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I remember doing that age 10 or something, learning how to sign and sing at the same time.
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Just these kinds of experiences that you wouldn't get anywhere else, really.
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And so you've got to arrange a very wide variety of different styles.
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And I mean, the only thing I find today is that with Disney,
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for example, even, you know, kids are engaging with music from a very early
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age. They've made it fun.
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And so, I mean, I guess you've got to incorporate a little bit of that into
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the repertoire of a choir.
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Yeah. I mean, Disney's great at any age. I love Frozen.
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The music of Disney is, honestly, it's amazing. it's really underrated there's
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a guy called Alan Menken who's written most of the Disney scores over the last
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30 years and it's just it's genius I don't think he did Frozen but Disney stuff
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is always good at any age yeah.
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Yeah, well, I'm going to take a break and come back and talk about your initial
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come and sing day and also find out about then people, how people would sign
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up to join the choir and how the logistics of that are going to work.
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So we're talking singing, we're talking singing with the Altrincham Youth Choir
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and it's the newest choir to come to the area.
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We're very lucky, actually. We've got a lot of good choirs and this is now the
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next. And I want to ask you about the age range as well.
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We'll be back with Kelly and Simon in a couple of minutes time.
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Callie, can I ask you, so how do you define youth? What's the age range that
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you're looking forward to join the Ultraman Youth Choir?
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So we have decided to do it from age seven up to age 18.
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And the choirs are going to be separated into two groups. So it'll be seven
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to 11. That's going to be AYC juniors.
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And 11 to 18 is AYC seniors. And they will tackle kind of slightly more complex
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harmonies, longer pieces.
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They will focus a bit more on musical theory and the junior choir will
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focus a bit more on lovely lovely music beautiful melodies and then stuff and
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with more of a focus on oral skills and just like listening yeah building the
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foundations and we will look at a little bit of sight reading
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i'm assuming you'll you'll hope for a mixture boys and girls i mean in some
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ways although we were talking about you know boys choirs and traditionally cathedral
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choirs are boys choirs but often it's sometimes hard to get.
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Sort of teenage boys into this type of thing yeah it can be but as you said
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before i think choir is kind of it's it's not as,
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it's it's seen as cooler now than it was when we rehearsed us hopefully we really
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want some tenors and basses please yeah if you're a,
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young tenor or bass that would be fabulous so your voice hasn't broken yet you are also very welcome,
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so that's the thing i mean your voice is breaking when typically would you see
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a voice breaking into either soprano or alto or into tenor or bass when typically would you see that,
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it's kind of over a over a period of time i think sort,
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of i for me it was about 12 13 14 ish around there i think i'm sure it can vary,
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With girls, there's not really such a breaking, but the challenge is more that
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as children, children tend to push the chest register quite high with pop singing,
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musical theater singing.
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So then with choral or classical training, you're sort of bringing the head
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voice in a little bit sooner.
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I remember when my own voice broke and I felt almost like disappointed that
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I wasn't going to get the melody anymore.
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And then I realized that actually singing, I was a tenor, I sang tenor,
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it has its own language, it has its own range.
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Actually, sometimes it was gorgeous, but you had to be quite confident to be
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able to sing against the tide, if you like, sing against the main melody.
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The alto tenors and basses have the more musically challenging job.
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The sopranos just get to sing the melody most of the time.
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Well, I mean, physiology and breathing is really important in that.
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But I mean, I happen to say, especially with my memory loss now,
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I sometimes I can go off in my own little melody sometimes. And I'm thinking,
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have I got this right? You know, uh, you know, cause I, I, I haven't got perfect pitch.
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And not many people have, have they, but it's a confidence thing when you looking
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at some notes and you're thinking, I'm going from this B up to here or whatever.
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I've got to just go for it really. So. Yeah. Have you,
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got a perfect pitch? Sort of, I think. Oh, I'm jealous. I'm envious. And deep.
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And perfect pitch, of course, is the ability to pitch a note.
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You see, somebody say, I should test it nice, Simon. Give us a B.
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Yeah, I'd rather not, I think.
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So you've got the come and sing day, which is the beginning of December.
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When do the formal sort of, how are,
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you going to set up a week and you mentioned the two different choirs you're
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going to have separate sessions for those or how's it going to work Kelly so,
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alternate youth choir rehearsals will be on Thursday evenings five till six
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will be AYC juniors so that's from seven age seven to age 11 and then the,
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senior choir will be from 6 p.m till 7 15 so they've,
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and it will be at the Ultraneum United Reformed Church in Hale.
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They've got a really beautiful, modern hall attached to the church.
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I think I know where that is.
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I think I know. I'm just trying to think the road. It's almost opposite the junction, is it?
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Cecil Road, I think it's called. Cecil Road, yeah. Oh, yes, okay.
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I know where you are now. I know where you are now.
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And as part of that, I mean, I find that singing's lovely, But when you have
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a focus of like a gig or a concert, it gives you that extra focus, if you like.
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Will you be incorporating in a seasonal way or something like that?
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Yeah, absolutely. That's the plan. So we want to do concerts at the end of every term.
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And like you say, we will theme the concerts. So the first one will be the spring
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concert. We'll do lots of music around the theme of spring.
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Gives us a brief to find beautiful music too as well unfortunately we'll we'll
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have just missed the christmas opportunity but we'll do that next year.
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I mean i have to say i love christmas music yeah,
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it bounces along it's brilliant it's absolutely brilliant but i'm gonna take
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a break and then come back and just confirm how people can get in contact where
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they can look at and just come back and remind about the come and sing day that
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you got we're talking to cali and Simon about Ultragam Youth Choir
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the latest choir to join,
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we're very lucky in the area, we have some fantastic choirs and this is aimed
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at children you said from, was it age of 6 to 16, is it?
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7 to 18 7 to 18, I was always only a couple of years but we'll be back with
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them in a couple of minutes time,
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You're listening to Radio Alty, it's Rod Maxwell on the Late Late Lunch Show
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and I've been delighted to speak to Simon and Callie about singing and I have
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to say it's one of my favourite things and I still get a great buzz from singing.
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It's lovely to have a chance to just belt it out sometimes and I know it's more
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than that, the breathing, but sometimes it's like therapy.
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You just get that voice and you just give it loudly and it's it's a wonderful
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feeling at times you know.
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It does feel good and and of course you're teaching breathing and and that type
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of thing which is good in other ways is quite good for formal,
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speech presentations and stuff like that as well absolutely i'm a yoga teacher
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as well so my plan was to do some yogic breathing exercises with them at the start yeah.
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Yeah get them into that good calm frame of mind for a rehearsal so just remind
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me about the come and sing day is that is that a just turn up and sing or you've
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got a register beforehand how does that work but you do have to book in advance,
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yes you can book on our website which is altering and youth choir.co.uk it's
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15 pounds for the day you get a whole day of singing 10 till 3 30 and then there's
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a little performance at the end for the parents
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get to come and hear your child sing the beautiful choral music from frozen
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and that's at the church of saint mary the virgin in boden,
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yes exactly fantastic and and then when does then when are you hoping to if
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you like start the formal um the formal choirs,
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they start on the 7th of january in,
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yes in january 7th of january after christmas which is a thursday.
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On the thursday and where are you going to be based again sorry,
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The Altraneum United Reform Church in Hale. It's really just off the High Street in Hale.
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Yeah, so the Come and Sing Day sort of acts as a try out the choir day.
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But if you can't make that, then you could also book a free trial rehearsal for January.
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And when the children come to the choir practices in January onwards,
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will they get sheet music? Will it be electronic? How is that going to work?
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Mixed i guess we could also we can send out electronic copies but we'll also
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have hard copies on the day yeah.
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That's part of one of the things that we want to do with the choir we want to
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build our music library so that any piece that we perform or rehearse we do
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have all the copies that the children get to,
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use there's something special i think about feeling like you've got your proper
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copy of music or just like a photo copy or yeah i,
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i i do i i um i i my biggest issue was singing these days is a lot of choirs
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like to sing from memory or they have achieved music in front and with my memory
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loss it's a nightmare absolutely and i,
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i never have the same confidence i actually do need to follow the notes and
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i do need the words you know and and,
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you realize you pick up so much about.
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Reading music just from doing it over and over and over again exactly it's like
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with reading like again my daughter's just starting to learn to read and she
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just picks things up because we're reading daily so
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the more you do it the the more you're learning,
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and people will be able to find you on socials just look up Ultringham Youth
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Choir you got a website tell me about that,
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exactly alteringamyouthchoir.co.uk at alteringamyouthchoir on Instagram,
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yeah and we do also have a crowdfunder for anybody that wanted to support our
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launch help us to buy music and pay accompanists and rehearsal spaces
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and if there were any local businesses that wanted to sponsor an exciting new altering and choir
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we would be very grateful there you go you've heard it if you've got a business
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out there you can get involved in this and,
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And the lessons are going to be, you pay for the lessons on a weekly basis. Is that right, Callie?
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It will be a termly fee. You can pay it all in one go or three installments.
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Yeah. Okay. Okay. Well, look, best of luck.
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And if we ever get a chance, I'd love to bring Radio Alty down and record you.
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We've recorded a lot of choirs in the past and it's quite nice to do, actually.
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We would absolutely love that. We'll let you know. Thanks. got things on okay
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perfect well good luck and have a great christmas and i look forward to hearing
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more in the new year thank you thank you.