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Not So Fast Episode 7 · Not So Fast

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Not So Fast with Andrew Perloff and Paul Pabst,
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Speaker 1: where two longtime friends challenge each other on the biggest
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Speaker 1: sports stories of the day.
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Speaker 2: Here's Andrew Perloff and Paul Pabst.
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Speaker 3: Not so fast, my friends.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to Not So Fast. I'm Andrew Perloff. He's Paul Pabst. Paul,
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Speaker 2: we made it.
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Speaker 3: The NFL season is here. We got a Wednesday Night
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Speaker 3: Football at WNF. We love it. NBC. We got a
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Speaker 3: football on the set. I think they only sent one
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Speaker 3: of one to us.
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure about that, Paul. I've seen others. You know,
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Speaker 2: here's the point. Mike Tirico, Chris Collinsworth, our good buddies
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Speaker 2: are going to be in our house tonight. Right.
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Speaker 3: They don't know we're good friends. We think of them
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Speaker 3: as good friends. They kind of know who we are.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Patriots-Seahawks tonight, 820 Eastern. Paul, why does this matchup
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Speaker 2: feel a little different than some opening nights?
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Speaker 3: Well, Seattle's most interesting defending Super Bowl champ, maybe of
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Speaker 3: all time, is that they're still fighting for respect. Usually
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Speaker 3: that ends when you win the Super Bowl, especially in
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Speaker 3: dominant fashion. And the Seahawks last year, they weren't some
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Speaker 3: fluky team. They weren't like they lucked in or they
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Speaker 3: won it on a fluke. And there still seems like
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Speaker 3: they're battling the Rams, the Cowboys, and others for relevancy.
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Speaker 2: Well, yes, but I'd say they don't get back. I'd
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Speaker 2: say that neither of these teams get back. Let me
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Speaker 2: give you some numbers, Paul. Okay, Super Bowl winner, about 25%
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Speaker 2: make it to the Super Bowl the following year, and
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Speaker 2: half of those teams win. That's only about 13%. And
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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl loser, only 14% of them make it back.
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Speaker 2: You know, you heard about the Super Bowl losing jinx.
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Speaker 2: You look at Seattle and New England, a lot of
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Speaker 2: people are making picks. I'm seeing some Seattle, not a
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Speaker 2: lot of New England. But still, you're right. The Seahawks
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Speaker 2: are not feared.
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Speaker 3: I'm going to stat you back. The Seahawks weren't fluky.
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Speaker 3: In 2025, the regular season, the Seahawks outscored their opponents
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Speaker 3: by 191 points. That's the most point differential in all
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Speaker 3: of professional football. That's not a fluke. And look at
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Speaker 3: where they are in the odds. They're fourth, which is
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Speaker 3: lightly respectable. But do you think it's because... The Seahawks
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Speaker 3: didn't make a big splash in the offseason. Not a
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Speaker 3: lot of changes. I know they let Ken Walker go,
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Speaker 3: but they are a drama-free Super Bowl team.
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Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. Because you have to look
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Speaker 2: at how they got there last year. They beat a
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Speaker 2: Patriots team that, in my opinion, probably was a year ahead.
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Speaker 2: It shouldn't have been that year.
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Speaker 3: I do agree with that. I think you've got a
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Speaker 3: good point. They didn't have to beat the Bills, the Chiefs,
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Speaker 3: or the Ravens to win that Super Bowl.
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Speaker 2: And what else happens to Super Bowl teams? They lose
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Speaker 2: their coordinators, and I know you think this is a
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Speaker 2: big deal. They lost Clint Kubiak, who was running the
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Speaker 2: offense with Sam Darnold. We'll see how much that hurts.
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Speaker 2: It's hurt a lot of the past Super Bowl winners.
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Speaker 2: It's certainly hurt my Eagles.
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Speaker 3: Okay, but Sam Darnold, does he factor in this at all?
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Speaker 3: Because people like, don't love, nationally, Sam Darnold, even after
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Speaker 3: leading a team to a Super Bowl.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we've seen Sam Darnold with questionable offensive coordinators.
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Speaker 2: He's not the same quarterback. Everything was working perfectly last year.
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Speaker 2: I like the Seahawks a lot. I agree, by the way.
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Speaker 2: I think they're going to have a chip on their
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Speaker 2: shoulder because of this disrespect, and they are a solid team. But, again,
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Speaker 2: it feels like the Rams are the defending champions or
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Speaker 2: the Seahawks are the upstart team when that's not the case.
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Speaker 3: I'm a premature warm take you here, and Sam Darnold
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Speaker 3: reminds me of Joe Montana from the stance of his coolness,
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Speaker 3: his calmness. Joe Montana didn't put up monster stats. He
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Speaker 3: was more of a guy who just pinpoint, ran a
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Speaker 3: little bit, passed really well, but just kept winning. Now,
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Speaker 3: it's really early to make any Montana comparisons with him,
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Speaker 3: but demeanor-wise, I think Darnold has a little Montana in him.
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Speaker 2: That's a little too warm for me. I'm going to
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Speaker 2: say that's outright hot. Sam Darnold, Joe Montana?
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Speaker 3: I'm not retracting, but what I'm saying is he is cool.
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Speaker 3: He's entered that zone where he's trustworthy. Is he going
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Speaker 3: to go left and throw 70 yards across his body?
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Speaker 3: You're never going to see those highlights.
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Speaker 2: I think Steve Young actually makes more sense because Steve
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Speaker 2: Young took forever to reach that elite level Sam Darnold,
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Speaker 2: the early part of his career, was not good, just
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Speaker 2: like Steve Young was.
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Speaker 3: Did you just out-warm take me by doubling down and
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Speaker 3: saying not just Joe Montana, but now Steve Young comparisons?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally topped you there.
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Speaker 3: You can tell we don't rehearse this show.
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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, New England, you know, listen, they beat last year,
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Speaker 2: they beat the Chargers. Chargers never win the playoffs. They
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Speaker 2: beat the Texans, CJ Stroud, terribly. And then they beat
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Speaker 2: the Broncos with a backup quarterback in the playoffs to
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Speaker 2: reach the Super Bowl, struggle in the Super Bowl. I mean,
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Speaker 2: everyone is kind of back for New England. The key players,
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Speaker 2: they have their coaches back. But still, there are a
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Speaker 2: lot of questions about it as far as, like, Super
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Speaker 2: Bowl repeat. It's hard to see. I went through.
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Speaker 3: There's this website. You could look at all the experts'
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Speaker 3: picks before the season. And I found two out of, like,
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Speaker 3: 60 that had the AFC title game with the Patriots
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Speaker 3: in it. Nobody loves the Patriots at all. I think
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Speaker 3: they think, yeah, they overachieved a little bit last year.
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Speaker 3: Drake Bay a little ahead of schedule. But they added A.J. Brown.
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Speaker 3: They added some other tools. They actually have a little
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Speaker 3: bit better of a roster than last year I do think,
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Speaker 3: and I don't want to get into the offseason, but
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Speaker 3: I think the offseason messy stuff around the Patriots distracted
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Speaker 3: the media from that they're a quality football team.
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Speaker 2: You mean the Mike Vrabel stuff?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you said it, not me.
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Speaker 2: I would just say it. I mean, also people are
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Speaker 2: talking about their harder schedule. That's a big storyline. I
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Speaker 2: don't think the Vrabel messiness stuff matters because you look
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Speaker 2: at every great team, they have messiness. Maybe not with
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Speaker 2: the head coach.
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Speaker 3: I don't think it actually matters on the field, but
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Speaker 3: it mattered with the coverage.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, listen, I like the Patriots a lot
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Speaker 2: this year, but we're going to do our Super Bowl
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Speaker 2: picks later. When you look at their schedule this year,
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Speaker 2: it is a lot harder to pick them than it
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Speaker 2: was last year. And they still have Buffalo looming in
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Speaker 2: the AFC East.
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Speaker 3: We did mention this yesterday. The Patriots finished with Jets
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Speaker 3: and Dolphins in two of their last three. That could
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Speaker 3: help if it's dicey getting into the playoffs.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you don't have any faith in the Jets
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Speaker 2: and the Dolphins?
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Speaker 3: I'm going to say no. That's a hard no. That's
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Speaker 3: not even a warm take. That's a cold take. All right,
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Speaker 3: let's get to it. The Patrick Mahomes situation is all set.
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Speaker 3: He will start Monday Night Football against the Broncos, according
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Speaker 3: to Andy Reid. You said at one point you may
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Speaker 3: hold him back. I also am concerned with Patrick Holmes
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Speaker 3: going against the, at worst, second-best pass rush in the league.
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Speaker 3: Would you be worried? Do you expect a different-looking Mahomes
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Speaker 3: Monday night and maybe the first month of the season?
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Speaker 2: Well, Mahomes knows how to play conservatively. He usually only
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Speaker 2: runs in the playoffs and in the fourth quarter when
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Speaker 2: they need it. So he is not going to put
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Speaker 2: himself out there. But here's a guy you just don't
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Speaker 2: count out. Remember... The Super Bowl against the Eagles in Arizona,
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Speaker 2: he was limping at halftime. Then he came out in
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Speaker 2: the second half and completely shredded the Eagles.
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Speaker 3: Great point.
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Speaker 2: I just think that Patrick Mahomes defies all logic. And
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Speaker 2: everyone's sort of counting them out. It says the weapons
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Speaker 2: around him aren't great. But the weapons after Tyreek Hill
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Speaker 2: left have never been great. It's Patrick Mahomes. And, no,
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Speaker 2: I don't question him at all. I think he'll figure
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Speaker 2: out the health and be effective.
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Speaker 3: Any concern about guys who are kind of semi-proven? Xavier Worthy?
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Speaker 2: Nope.
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Speaker 3: Rasheed Rice?
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Speaker 2: Nope.
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Speaker 3: Travis Kelsey? No worries.
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Speaker 2: I have no worries. I have no worries. If Mahomes
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Speaker 2: is healthy and Andy Reid is the head coach, I
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Speaker 2: think that the reason we even know those names are
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Speaker 2: because of Mahomes.
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Speaker 3: Do you see them pivoting a little bit towards leaning
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Speaker 3: towards the running game, maybe at the first half of
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Speaker 3: the season or in playoff games, to spend money on
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Speaker 3: Kenneth Walker, the artist formerly known as Kenneth Walker III,
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Speaker 3: now Ken Walker? That seems like a pivot to me,
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Speaker 3: that they're saying, we're going to run the ball and
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Speaker 3: focus it to make Mahomes less of a target.
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Speaker 2: No, that's a great point. They've been near the bottom
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Speaker 2: of the league in explosive runs the last few years.
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Speaker 2: Hopefully for them, Ken Walker can get a few going.
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Speaker 3: Explosive runs, only good in football.
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Speaker 2: All right, we're going to do predictions throughout the show today,
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Speaker 2: and we're going to start with a couple of awards.
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Speaker 2: We're going to do all the awards. We're going to start, Paul,
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Speaker 2: with the O-Poi and the D-Poi, the Offensive Player of
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Speaker 2: the Year and the Defensive Player of the Year. Why
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Speaker 2: don't you get us going with Offensive Player of the Year?
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Speaker 3: We have to start with the caveat that the Offensive
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Speaker 3: Player of the Year and the Defensive Player of the Year,
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Speaker 3: the OPOY is always a non-quarterback who overachieves. Not always,
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Speaker 3: but most. Almost always. If you're a running back or
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Speaker 3: wide receiver, it's very hard to win the MVP. Look
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Speaker 3: at the odds. Jameer Gibbs, B. John Robinson, neither won
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Speaker 3: it last year. Chase, Puka, Jefferson, all the usual suspects.
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Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor in there, he's kind of a quiet assassin there.
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Speaker 3: That seems to be the cutoff point of people who
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Speaker 3: can win it. I will go first. I gave this
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Speaker 3: a lot of thought, a lot of thought last night,
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Speaker 3: and then I did the thing. I stopped thinking because
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Speaker 3: thinking gets me in trouble when I pick. I went obvious.
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Speaker 3: Jameer Gibbs and here's why from the Lions. Jameer Gibbs
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Speaker 3: is under contract. He got the big new deal, and
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Speaker 3: they have less depth at running back. They're kind of
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Speaker 3: spotty at the running back position. There's no more David
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Speaker 3: Montgomery to thunder and lightning that offense. It's all Jameer
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Speaker 3: Gibbs all the time. He's a sure thing. He's entering
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Speaker 3: his prime as a running back. I could see one
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Speaker 3: of those 2,400 yards of all-purpose rushing and receiving seasons
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Speaker 3: and cruising to the Opoy.
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Speaker 2: Are you a little worried about the wear and tear
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Speaker 2: on him now that he won't have as much help
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Speaker 2: to share?
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Speaker 3: Not yet, but this is when you use him. He's
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Speaker 3: completely under contract. You have three years to get a
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Speaker 3: Super Bowl with this guy.
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Speaker 2: Okay. I am also going a non-quarterback, pretty obvious, and
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Speaker 2: I'm pretty high up in the odds as well. I
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Speaker 2: think people forgot about Jamar Chase just a little bit.
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Speaker 2: They haven't forgotten about him, but you remember two years
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Speaker 2: ago he won the Triple Crown for receiving, which is
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Speaker 2: completely unstoppable. I think Joe Burrow is on a mission
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Speaker 2: this year. Last year, of course, he was hurt for
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Speaker 2: half the season. Chase and Burrow, to me, is probably
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Speaker 2: the number one quarterback-to-wide receiver connection in the entire league.
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Speaker 2: I think Chase really wants people to remember what he
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Speaker 2: did two years ago. And I think the Bengals, they're
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Speaker 2: not going to be my Super Bowl pick necessarily, but
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Speaker 2: I think they are all in for this year. Improvements
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Speaker 2: on defense. I think they're fired up. Burrow just looks
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Speaker 2: like a man on the mission. And Chase is the
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Speaker 2: one who's going to benefit from that.
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Speaker 3: I think this is a great pick because if you
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Speaker 3: look at every year, I always look at targets by
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Speaker 3: a wide receiver and targets for a quarterback. And he
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Speaker 3: always leads the league. When Joe Burrow is healthy, Jamar
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Speaker 3: Chase leads the league in targets per game. It's like, JSN,
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Speaker 3: don't be creative. Just throw it to that guy.
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Speaker 2: And not only that, he can get a five-yard pass
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Speaker 2: and go to the house or go long. Guy, he's
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Speaker 2: the most versatile big-time receiver. Everybody's got a specialty. He's
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Speaker 2: got them all.
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Speaker 3: All right, let's get to the depoy, the defensive player
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Speaker 3: of the year. I'm going to go again with less thinking,
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Speaker 3: more obviousness. Will Anderson of the Texans. He is hitting
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Speaker 3: his stride as a player. He just turned 25 years old.
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Speaker 3: He's a monster on the defensive line. Miles Garrett is
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Speaker 3: in there. I don't think Miles Garrett could win it
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Speaker 3: this year because the team he's on will help him
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Speaker 3: out too much. He already won it. Aiden Hutchinson, right
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Speaker 3: in the mix. Nick Benito, not enough respect, but Will
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Speaker 3: Anderson Jr., he's unbelievable. He's the best pass rusher in
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Speaker 3: the game, not named Miles Garrett, and he's probably a tie.
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Speaker 3: And he's at the point in his career now, age 25,
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Speaker 3: if I were the offensive line, I would just start
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Speaker 3: reasoning with him. I would just say, Will, can you
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Speaker 3: just take it easy on us? Because he's truly unstoppable.
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Speaker 3: The other side of his defensive line, Daniil Hunter, so
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Speaker 3: you can't assign a back to him on every single play.
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Speaker 2: Let me just make this clear. So you want the
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Speaker 2: left tackle to be like, hey, Will, you know, I
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Speaker 2: have a family at home. I have a contract coming
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Speaker 2: up this year. Can you please just take it easy?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll let you have this sack and then you
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Speaker 3: relax for a couple quarters because we both know I
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Speaker 3: can't stop.
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure that's how the NFL works. I'll tell
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Speaker 2: you how not so fast works. We don't tell our
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Speaker 2: picks in advance. Nope. And I picked Will Anderson as well. Fine.
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Speaker 2: Twelve sacks last year. That number goes up. That defense is,
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Speaker 2: to me, one of the most impressive units, offensive defense
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Speaker 2: around the league. Daniil Hunter on the other side makes
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Speaker 2: it impossible to block. I think that defense is the
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Speaker 2: story of the year, so I'm going narrative, and he
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Speaker 2: will have the numbers. You know who my dark horse was,
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Speaker 2: and he's not a dark horse. Everyone forgot about Aiden Hutchinson.
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Speaker 2: Aiden Hutchinson with Detroit was going to win it two
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Speaker 2: years ago, so he's in the mix, but I think
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Speaker 2: Will Anderson's the hardest guy to block. I did think
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Speaker 2: that until I heard your strategy of being nice to him.
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Speaker 2: It's unusual.
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Speaker 3: I don't think any offensive tackles are going to take
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Speaker 3: us up on that, but Will Anderson's entering that prime, 25-29,
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Speaker 3: like J.J. Watt is prime. Aaron Donald is prime. They
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Speaker 3: have that four- or five-year window that they're truly unstoppable,
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Speaker 3: and it doesn't really matter what year.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, very few players, one defensive player of the year,
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Speaker 2: have been 30 or over. Correct. Miles Garrett just turned 30,
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Speaker 2: by the way.
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Speaker 3: But he is an anomaly of, like, Genetics.
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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, that might be a reason to fade him.
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Speaker 2: I like your reasoning. He'll split sacks with Aaron Donald
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Speaker 2: and everyone else there. All right, coming up next, we'll
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Speaker 2: go back to college football. Western Michigan has changed its tune.
11:36
Speaker 2: What's next in the fallout from the Michigan game? Next
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Speaker 2: on Not So Fast. Here we go, Pearl.
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Speaker 3: Midday pick-me-up, as always, on Not So Fast. And this
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Speaker 3: one we're going, we always go out west because that's
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Speaker 3: what we do here. Ooh, Lazaro Montez going yard, as
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Speaker 3: they say. Big fella, great hitter. Really nice uniforms. Number 99.
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Speaker 2: That one would have gotten out of pretty much every park,
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Speaker 2: including national parks.
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Speaker 3: What if he said, I'm not 99 after Aaron Judge.
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Speaker 3: I'm after Wayne Gretzky. I'm a big hockey guy. That'd
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Speaker 3: be original.
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Speaker 2: That would be original. Now, I'm not sure that's accurate.
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Speaker 3: We'll check. We'll look into it because we're journalists. All right,
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Speaker 3: let's get back to Not So Fast, Paxton Perloff. All
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Speaker 3: day we're doing our NFL predictions. Coach of the Year,
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Speaker 3: the Cody, coming up in about 10 minutes. A lot
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Speaker 3: coming on, but let's go with warm takes. Nice quarterback.
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Speaker 3: cuddly warm takes to start the NFL season. Here we go.
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Speaker 3: I'm going to go back to college. Western Michigan University,
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Speaker 3: we know what happened the other day against Michigan. If
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Speaker 3: you didn't see it, you don't own a phone or
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Speaker 3: a TV. And Western Michigan University, it took some time
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Speaker 3: to think about it. And the Mac, which we love,
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Speaker 3: Mac games Tuesday and Wednesday, the Mac took time to
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Speaker 3: think about it and looked it over and issued the statement.
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Speaker 3: They went back at it. After further study and investigations,
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Speaker 3: now evident that replay protocol was not properly followed in
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Speaker 3: determining whether time remained on the clock at the conclusion
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Speaker 3: of the Western Michigan-Michigan game. As a result, the MAAC
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Speaker 3: has submitted a formal appeal to the NCAA FBS Oversight
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Speaker 3: Committee and the college football playoff. The MAAC is requesting
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Speaker 3: that those bodies recognize Western Michigan as the actual winner
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Speaker 3: of the game. That's no joke. They're saying, we looked
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Speaker 3: at this, we took our time, and you made the
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Speaker 3: wrong decision. What they're saying is that the Big Ten
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Speaker 3: and people at the Michigan game should have only looked
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Speaker 3: at the TV clock and not gone to the secondary
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Speaker 3: Big Ten clock because that is not protocol. Protocol. And
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Speaker 3: You know what's funny? A couple hours later, the NCAA
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Speaker 3: agreed with them to a point. The Big Ten agreed
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Speaker 3: with them to a point. If you look a little
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Speaker 3: bit later, what did the Big Ten and the NCAA do?
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Speaker 3: They responded with, yeah, you're right, my bad. And they said,
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Speaker 3: here's new guidance for college football games going forward. The
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Speaker 3: official time for all college games is the time displayed
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Speaker 3: on the in-stadium clock. So what they said, the NCAA
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Speaker 3: to Western Michigan and the MAAC is, yep, you're right,
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Speaker 3: we were wrong. That said, we're not giving you the ballgame.
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Speaker 3: They aren't going to give them the ballgame today. They're
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Speaker 3: not going to fix this. How do you feel about
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Speaker 3: this at this juncture?
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Speaker 2: Well, it's so funny. The game was Saturday, and today
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Speaker 2: I believe is Wednesday. Yes. And it feels like this
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Speaker 2: story is just as hot as it was on Sunday.
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Speaker 2: So much back and forth on DP's show field. I
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Speaker 2: don't think that you can change the result. Firstly, that's
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Speaker 2: the way I lean. I know we did a poll
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Speaker 2: earlier in the hour about it, but I don't think
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Speaker 2: you can change the result, although the message has been
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Speaker 2: sent next time they better not screw this up.
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Speaker 3: It's not a flag by an official. It's a replay message.
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Speaker 3: extra down that was given improperly. And if any game
14:25
Speaker 3: you could say this down should have happened, if you
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Speaker 3: take the down away, then you go to the score
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Speaker 3: with zeros left on the clock, which was a Western
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Speaker 3: Michigan win. If you're ever going to give one back
14:34
Speaker 3: in sports, this is one that everyone would agree with,
14:37
Speaker 3: except for maybe Michigan football.
14:38
Speaker 2: I do think you get a mulligan in the sense
14:40
Speaker 2: the college football playoff committee can look back and sort
14:43
Speaker 2: of give half credit to Western Michigan for this. So
14:45
Speaker 2: if they're in it for that last spot for the
14:47
Speaker 2: group of five, I think people will remember how this
14:49
Speaker 2: game ended.
14:50
Speaker 3: Last thing on this, I emailed the Mac in Western
14:52
Speaker 3: Michigan to see are they going to go forward on this?
14:55
Speaker 3: We're waiting to hear back, but are they going to
14:56
Speaker 3: take this to the court or are they tapping out
14:58
Speaker 3: and saying we're going to accept this?
15:00
Speaker 2: Oh, man, we'll see. All right, I'm going to go
15:01
Speaker 2: to the NFL. Baker Mayfield gets paid in Tampa Bay,
15:05
Speaker 2: and it seems like a very positive day for the Bucs.
15:08
Speaker 2: Not so fast. I don't understand what the Bucs are
15:11
Speaker 2: doing big picture here, Paul. I know Baker Mayfield is
15:14
Speaker 2: a very good player, but they were not able to
15:16
Speaker 2: get to the next level when he was getting paid
15:18
Speaker 2: $ 33 million a year. How are they going to get
15:20
Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl now that he's getting paid $ 55
15:22
Speaker 2: million a year? We know one of the best ways
15:24
Speaker 2: to get to the Super Bowl is to have a
15:25
Speaker 2: quarterback on a rookie deal. When QBs get expensive, it
15:29
Speaker 2: is very hard to build a team around them. So
15:32
Speaker 2: the Bucs are running back Baker Mayfield and Todd Bowles.
15:36
Speaker 2: I don't get it. Todd Bowles, in particular, his head coach,
15:38
Speaker 2: does not have a Super Bowl upside to me. You
15:40
Speaker 2: look at the last few years with these two guys.
15:43
Speaker 2: Baker's been 9-8, 10-7, 8-9. They're right around. 500. To me,
15:48
Speaker 2: if I have an NFL team, it's Super Bowl or bus,
15:51
Speaker 2: and I see this as we're good enough, this is fine,
15:54
Speaker 2: we like Baker, but there's no pathway to the next level.
15:58
Speaker 3: I'm with you. We talked about this a few weeks ago,
16:00
Speaker 3: not so fast, when we were just talking before the
16:02
Speaker 3: show started, and we said you're kind of in no
16:04
Speaker 3: man's land with Baker Mayfield. If you pay him $ 55 million,
16:07
Speaker 3: you're giving him max money for maybe B-plus level play.
16:10
Speaker 3: But I think that the Bucs are in this no-man
16:13
Speaker 3: land where if they don't do it now, Baker Mayfield
16:15
Speaker 3: becomes a free agent and they have to start over
16:17
Speaker 3: at the quarterback position, which you're saying is maybe the
16:19
Speaker 3: right decision.
16:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the problem is they probably won't have
16:22
Speaker 2: a great draft pick after this year. So even if
16:25
Speaker 2: it is a really rich quarterback class, but they could
16:26
Speaker 2: trade up. Yeah, they're going to have to start over
16:28
Speaker 2: at some point. What, do you get three years with
16:30
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield? I don't think they win a Super Bowl
16:31
Speaker 2: in that three years. Also, their defense is slipping in
16:34
Speaker 2: the rankings today. They were 21 last year. I don't
16:36
Speaker 2: know if Todd Bowles has his fastball.
16:38
Speaker 3: That's warm, and I'm with you. All right, let's get
16:39
Speaker 3: back to another warm take. I'm going to go back
16:41
Speaker 3: to college. All right, let's look at this one. LSU
16:44
Speaker 3: and the SEC, it's the best matchup of the year,
16:46
Speaker 3: better than anything on the field. We know the whole
16:48
Speaker 3: LSU story and Lane Kiffin trying to get a couple
16:50
Speaker 3: pros back on his roster. Yesterday, the SEC announced they're
16:54
Speaker 3: having a special all-presidents AD meeting and a vote whether
16:58
Speaker 3: to keep LSU in the conference. And that is basically
17:01
Speaker 3: Greg Sankey in a street fight taking off his shirt
17:03
Speaker 3: and letting the smaller guy know him. check this out
17:05
Speaker 3: because you don't want any part of this. Greg Sankey,
17:08
Speaker 3: as we said last week on Not So Fast, is
17:10
Speaker 3: the guy who stirs the drink in the SEC. And
17:12
Speaker 3: he's not going to let Lane Kiffin, who is here
17:15
Speaker 3: and could be gone in a couple years out of
17:17
Speaker 3: the SEC, tell him what to do. And were they
17:19
Speaker 3: going to go to a vote to kick LSU out
17:20
Speaker 3: of the conference?
17:21
Speaker 2: No.
17:22
Speaker 3: But he liked the idea of it. He liked floating
17:24
Speaker 3: it out there. Lane Kiffin flinched. Lane Kiffin set his
17:27
Speaker 3: roster for the season, and those two former pros are
17:29
Speaker 3: not on his roster. So Greg Sankey got the W.
17:32
Speaker 3: Let Lane Kiffin know we're not doing this. And he
17:35
Speaker 3: went old school with like a true threat, a real threat.
17:38
Speaker 2: I think the whole story is overblown, Paul, because these
17:40
Speaker 2: guys were not going to go to the NFL if
17:43
Speaker 2: they didn't change. If the rule had existed where the
17:45
Speaker 2: class of 2022 could have stayed in college, these guys
17:47
Speaker 2: would have stayed in. I think they got screwed. I'm
17:50
Speaker 2: on team Lane.
17:51
Speaker 3: But we love it. We love infighting. We love SEC drama,
17:55
Speaker 3: the soap opera that is the SEC. Lane Kiffin is
17:58
Speaker 3: a button pusher. I never think he's done so well.
18:01
Speaker 3: That's a good story.
18:01
Speaker 2: What if LSU wins the SEC and then they become
18:05
Speaker 2: best friends?
18:05
Speaker 3: You want Lane Kiffin to win the SEC title and
18:08
Speaker 3: have to shake hands with Greg Sankey as he handles
18:10
Speaker 3: the trophy.
18:11
Speaker 2: All right, for my last warm take, I'm going to
18:12
Speaker 2: stay in college football. The powers that be may expand
18:17
Speaker 2: to 24 teams for the college football playoff from 12 teams. Now,
18:20
Speaker 2: a lot of people think that's way too much. Some
18:22
Speaker 2: people want to go back to four. We're all over
18:25
Speaker 2: the place. I have the perfect number, Paul. Perfect number.
18:28
Speaker 2: I did the math. It's got to be 16, not 24.
18:31
Speaker 2: Because last year, if you look at the top 24 teams,
18:34
Speaker 2: you're getting into the Georgia Tech-Houston area. But if you
18:37
Speaker 2: stop at 16, that was USC last year. And more importantly,
18:40
Speaker 2: you got Notre Dame in 2025. Not only did Notre
18:43
Speaker 2: Dame deserve to get in, in my opinion, I think
18:45
Speaker 2: they could have won it all if they were there
18:47
Speaker 2: last year. And Texas just missed. They would be in
18:50
Speaker 2: a 16-team playoff. They could have made some noise in
18:52
Speaker 2: the playoff. So I think with NIL, there's a lot
18:54
Speaker 2: of parity around college football. I think there are 16
18:57
Speaker 2: teams who could compete for the title, and that way
19:00
Speaker 2: you could be a little bit looser. Like Texas lost
19:02
Speaker 2: to Ohio State last year. To me, that should not
19:05
Speaker 2: have counted against their resume. The committee said it did,
19:08
Speaker 2: but if they had 16 teams, Texas would have been in.
19:11
Speaker 2: I think this is going to help the sport if
19:13
Speaker 2: they expand. 24 is just a little bit too much
19:16
Speaker 2: because I don't think there are 24 teams who could compete,
19:18
Speaker 2: but 16 for sure.
19:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you nailed this one because it does
19:21
Speaker 3: feel like there's 16 competitive teams, like title-worthy teams going on.
19:26
Speaker 3: And once you get to 24, you're setting up some
19:28
Speaker 3: first-round matchups that may not be pretty, may not be
19:30
Speaker 3: good football.
19:31
Speaker 2: No, I mean, I don't mean to be a sort
19:33
Speaker 2: of power conference elitist here. But as you're getting into,
19:37
Speaker 2: like James Madison probably would have made it last year.
19:39
Speaker 2: I don't know if they would have competed.
19:40
Speaker 3: But it allows those cute stories, no offense, those cute
19:43
Speaker 3: stories of a James Madison or a Cincinnati to sneak
19:45
Speaker 3: into playoffs and get a shot every year.
19:46
Speaker 2: Well, one of them gets to sneak in. I don't
19:48
Speaker 2: know if we need three or four. But, you know,
19:50
Speaker 2: when South Carolina and USC and teams like that end
19:54
Speaker 2: up between 12 and 16, they could be really good.
19:56
Speaker 2: And you look around this year, there's a lot of
19:58
Speaker 2: talent spread around because NIL is Somebody said on a
20:01
Speaker 2: DP show today, you don't keep five backups at Alabama.
20:04
Speaker 2: You don't keep five star players. So now there are
20:07
Speaker 2: a lot of teams that can make noise.
20:08
Speaker 3: All right, it's game time here. We like to play games.
20:10
Speaker 3: We've got a big game tonight coming up on NBC.
20:12
Speaker 3: But let's go to a little game we like to
20:13
Speaker 3: call Who Said It? One round today, Perloff. We're only
20:16
Speaker 3: playing one round of Who Said It? You and I
20:19
Speaker 3: are 0-2 on the season. Let's get to Who Said This?
20:23
Speaker 3: It's the responsibility of the offense to score every time
20:26
Speaker 3: we hit the grass. That's how we view it. We'll
20:28
Speaker 3: find out a lot about this team. We won't know
20:30
Speaker 3: week one who we are yet. That sounds Sean McVay-ish.
20:35
Speaker 3: I'm going to go Sean McVay and his faux hawk.
20:37
Speaker 2: Oh, I like that. It's got to be a great offense.
20:40
Speaker 2: I'm going to go Joe Burrow because they actually probably
20:42
Speaker 2: do have to score every time we hit the field.
20:43
Speaker 3: Who said this?
20:46
Speaker 1: Well, it's the responsibility of the offense to score every
20:48
Speaker 1: time we hit the grass. Yeah.
20:50
Speaker 2: That's how we view it. We'll find out a lot
20:52
Speaker 2: about this team.
20:53
Speaker 3: We won't know week one who we are yet. Now,
20:56
Speaker 3: the hint there should have been grass, grass field. We
20:58
Speaker 3: should have whittled it down to teams with grass because
21:00
Speaker 3: he didn't say every time we're on the field turf.
21:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, that information is helpful. Now, why didn't you tell
21:05
Speaker 2: me before we both said the wrong name?
21:07
Speaker 3: You're supposed to be the smart one. That was Ben Johnson.
21:09
Speaker 3: We'll play some more. We'll play some more who said
21:11
Speaker 3: that tomorrow. But let's get to our next NFL pick.
21:14
Speaker 3: Here we go, Perloff. The Cody, the coach of the year.
21:17
Speaker 3: You want to go first?
21:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll go first. Okay. Okay, there's gonna be a
21:21
Speaker 2: slight theme in my picks, Paul. I have convinced myself
21:26
Speaker 2: to go high on the Dallas Cowboys. And the coach
21:29
Speaker 2: of the year will be in Dallas, and his name
21:31
Speaker 2: is Brian Schottheimer.
21:33
Speaker 3: Drinking the Kool-Aid.
21:34
Speaker 2: You see him there. He's plus 1,300. Pretty good odds.
21:37
Speaker 2: Coach of the Year is always really the most improved coach.
21:40
Speaker 2: You can't go from 13-4 to Coach of the Year.
21:43
Speaker 3: It's best story.
21:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to be 7-10, which is right around
21:47
Speaker 2: where Dallas was, and then go to 11 or 12 wins.
21:50
Speaker 2: That's why Kevin Stefanski wins all the time. Brian Schottheimer,
21:53
Speaker 2: very popular coach as well. He fits exactly the mold
21:56
Speaker 2: of who wins this award.
21:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, you took all my notes. Coach of the Year
21:59
Speaker 3: is really most improved coach, best story, who takes a
22:02
Speaker 3: team that's average to good, good to great, or bad
22:06
Speaker 3: to average. So I'm going to go with Jesse Minter
22:09
Speaker 3: of the Ravens, and here's why. New face, new place,
22:12
Speaker 3: replacing Harbaugh. If he overachieves this year, he gets a bonus. Like,
22:16
Speaker 3: look what he did with Lamar Jackson. Look what he
22:18
Speaker 3: did with all these good players that Harbaugh couldn't do
22:21
Speaker 3: the past few years. So Jesse Minter looks good with
22:23
Speaker 3: the salt-and-pepper beard. I'm picking him as my guy.
22:26
Speaker 2: No, you're right. Because they had a bad season, so
22:27
Speaker 2: they jumped back. But I worry people are going to say, oh, well,
22:30
Speaker 2: that was Lamar Jackson. That wasn't the coach.
22:32
Speaker 3: He'll get enough points where he gets to it. All right,
22:34
Speaker 3: coming up next, oh, this is bonus coverage. Our guy,
22:38
Speaker 3: James Palmer of Amazon NFL. We're going to talk to him,
22:40
Speaker 3: get you ready for the season. And more picks from us,
22:43
Speaker 3: including our Super Bowl picks, coming up. Not so fast.
22:47
Speaker 2: Welcome back to Not So Fast. I'm Perloff. He's Pabst,
22:50
Speaker 2: NBC Sports Now, Peacock. We have some more picks coming
22:54
Speaker 2: up soon, Paul.
22:55
Speaker 3: Offensive Rookie of the Year, Defensive Rookie of the Year, O'Roy, D-Roy,
22:59
Speaker 3: and you and I have not seen each other's picks.
23:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think we have very, very different opinions
23:04
Speaker 2: on rookies. But first, you know, with the season starting,
23:08
Speaker 2: first person we want to talk to with the actual
23:10
Speaker 2: season tonight, James Palmer, of course, you know, from NFL
23:14
Speaker 2: on Prime, one of the most respected reporters in the
23:16
Speaker 2: NFL business, and a Philly native, Paul, which you know
23:20
Speaker 2: I love.
23:20
Speaker 3: Of course.
23:21
Speaker 2: James, how you doing, buddy?
23:23
Speaker 3: I'm good.
23:24
Speaker 1: I mean, every time you hit me up, it's like
23:25
Speaker 1: there's always like a bottom line that's like, thoughts on
23:28
Speaker 1: the Phils? Or like something like that is always related
23:30
Speaker 1: somewhere when you hit me up.
23:31
Speaker 2: Hey, I'd love to chat.
23:33
Speaker 1: I'm like, we can talk Phillies.
23:34
Speaker 2: We can talk, you know, Sixers.
23:35
Speaker 3: We can talk whatever.
23:36
Speaker 1: But we'll stick to NFL.
23:37
Speaker 2: It could be third quarter of the Super Bowl, James.
23:40
Speaker 2: And I'll send you a note about the DH situation
23:42
Speaker 2: with the Phillies. Yes, very much so. And you'll immediately reply.
23:46
Speaker 2: All right. So we're ready to get started this season.
23:48
Speaker 2: Obviously tonight, Seahawks and the Patriots. One team that's getting
23:53
Speaker 2: a lot of hype, though, is the L.A. Rams, obviously. Now,
23:56
Speaker 2: they're off in Australia. Do you buy the hype, or
23:59
Speaker 2: are you worried that maybe there's too much hype?
24:02
Speaker 1: If there's a team that can handle this hype, I
24:04
Speaker 1: think you look at it from the general manager in
24:06
Speaker 1: Les Snead, you look at it from Sean McVay, the
24:08
Speaker 1: way these guys are wired and the way some of
24:10
Speaker 1: their star power is wired, I think they can handle
24:13
Speaker 1: the hype.
24:13
Speaker 3: Now, I know the odds are not in their favor.
24:16
Speaker 1: Even though the odds are outstanding, you look at teams
24:18
Speaker 1: that have had these type of odds, they just haven't
24:19
Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl yet. But I do think they
24:21
Speaker 1: can handle all of this. A lot of these guys
24:23
Speaker 1: have obviously been through success. And Trent McDuffie has been
24:26
Speaker 1: through everything in Kansas City. And he comes over. And, like,
24:29
Speaker 1: I do think they have the ability to handle all
24:31
Speaker 1: of it. Now, it's not like they're without question. Can
24:33
Speaker 1: they stop the run? How is all these different pieces
24:36
Speaker 1: going to come together? I do think it's a, like,
24:38
Speaker 1: woe is me type problems for Chris Shula. Like, how
24:40
Speaker 1: do I put all these new, beautiful pieces together? But, like,
24:44
Speaker 1: I do think you've got to have it really come
24:45
Speaker 1: out onto the field and work. But I don't think
24:47
Speaker 1: there's any sort of added pressure that they're putting on themselves,
24:50
Speaker 1: and if anybody can handle it, I think they can.
24:54
Speaker 1: It's just what's going on with the rest of the
24:55
Speaker 1: NFC we can get to.
24:56
Speaker 3: James, let's get to the Seahawks, and they're the opposite
24:58
Speaker 3: of hype. I think they probably enjoyed the offseason not
25:00
Speaker 3: being a focal point, even though they were so good
25:02
Speaker 3: last year winning the Super Bowl. How much do you
25:04
Speaker 3: like the way they run their franchise, letting Kenneth Walker go,
25:07
Speaker 3: a star player, and then going cheaper at the running
25:10
Speaker 3: back position? Just the way they do things year to year,
25:13
Speaker 3: how respectable are they as a franchise?
25:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, John does a great job. I mean, it's almost
25:17
Speaker 1: like it is a little bit forgotten up there. I mean,
25:19
Speaker 1: I was at NFL Network for a decade. It'd always
25:21
Speaker 1: be like halfway through the season, they'd be like, James,
25:23
Speaker 1: I think we have to send you up to Seattle.
25:25
Speaker 1: We haven't really talked about Russell Wilson, who's having an
25:27
Speaker 1: MVP season. They always just kind of fly under the
25:29
Speaker 1: radar for these long stretches. And it's almost like, you know,
25:31
Speaker 1: with the first question, they are doing it within their
25:33
Speaker 1: own division with what's going on with the Rams. But
25:35
Speaker 1: John has such a good pulse on the way he
25:38
Speaker 1: wants to handle a roster, how they want to flip
25:40
Speaker 1: things over. And, you know, they always knew that they
25:43
Speaker 1: weren't going to bring Kenneth Walker back. And then, you know,
25:45
Speaker 1: there are certain organizations, I would say like the Ravens
25:47
Speaker 1: are one of these as well, where it's like, oh,
25:49
Speaker 1: Jadarian Price just falls into their lap in the draft.
25:51
Speaker 1: Some of these teams just seem to, in our perception,
25:54
Speaker 1: just play it right oftentimes. But when you have a coach,
25:56
Speaker 1: and let's just say this, by the way, Hard Knocks
25:58
Speaker 1: this year has been outstanding, like far and away better
26:01
Speaker 1: than years past in recent memory. But you see the
26:03
Speaker 1: way Mike handles the defense. You see the way that
26:05
Speaker 1: they handle it on offense. Jackson Smith and Jig was
26:08
Speaker 1: just a smart pick. I think that's really, to me...
26:11
Speaker 1: a microcosm of the way John Schneider and the organization operate.
26:14
Speaker 1: I remember being at JSN's Pro Day. I remember everybody
26:17
Speaker 1: having questions going, there's no comp form. People feel uncomfortable
26:21
Speaker 1: in the NFL when there's no comp.
26:22
Speaker 2: They panic.
26:23
Speaker 1: They go, I can't comp him to anything. John Schneider
26:25
Speaker 1: loved that. He was like, he's such a unique player.
26:27
Speaker 1: We can use him in different ways. And then they go, hey,
26:29
Speaker 1: we can move off of DK Metcalf. We know JSN's
26:31
Speaker 1: role can expand. We have faith in him becoming this
26:33
Speaker 1: type of player. And you see the way that's become.
26:35
Speaker 1: I just always think there's a forward thinking outside of
26:37
Speaker 1: the box mentality mentality that John Schneider works with. And
26:40
Speaker 1: we've seen that on hard knocks a little bit. And
26:41
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the reasons we've seen this
26:43
Speaker 1: success and they got the right head coach.
26:44
Speaker 2: To do it. All right, James, earlier on the Dan
26:47
Speaker 2: Patrick show, Dan picked the Denver Broncos to win the
26:49
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. You're seeing kind of not the most popular pick,
26:53
Speaker 2: but a trending pick. I know you know that team
26:55
Speaker 2: very well, living in Denver. What do you think? Broncos,
26:58
Speaker 2: chance to win it all?
27:00
Speaker 3: You know what?
27:01
Speaker 1: You asked me, you know, be ready for a Super
27:02
Speaker 1: Bowl pick. And I was this morning going over this.
27:04
Speaker 1: I'm walking the dog and I'm like, I don't want
27:07
Speaker 1: to do it because they're right here in my backyard,
27:09
Speaker 1: but I was going to say Denver. And it's just
27:11
Speaker 1: because I have fewer questions about the Broncos than I
27:13
Speaker 1: do almost every other team. And what you're looking for
27:16
Speaker 1: from a Super Bowl winner or a Super Bowl contender,
27:19
Speaker 1: they have every one of those boxes checked. Everybody wants
27:22
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl winning head coach.
27:23
Speaker 3: They have it in Sean Payton.
27:24
Speaker 1: Everybody wants, you know, an up-and-coming, you know, boy genius
27:28
Speaker 1: guru on the offensive side of the ball. They have
27:29
Speaker 1: that in Davis Webb. They have a cheat code like
27:32
Speaker 1: Kansas City has used for years with Steve Spagnuolo for
27:34
Speaker 1: some reason not getting head coaching loved. They have that
27:36
Speaker 1: with Vance Joseph, who runs one of the best defenses
27:39
Speaker 1: in all of football. They have a great pass rush.
27:41
Speaker 1: They have a good, you know, really, really good play
27:43
Speaker 1: from in the trenches on the D-line and the offensive
27:45
Speaker 1: line is one of the best in football. They went
27:47
Speaker 1: and found one piece that was missing, which was the
27:49
Speaker 1: explosiveness within the offense and add Jalen Waddell to the mix.
27:52
Speaker 1: You know, 50-50 jump ball on Cortland Sutton, the best
27:54
Speaker 1: corner in football on Pat Sertan. Like, I'm kind of
27:57
Speaker 1: just curious, what are their weaknesses? Now, they won a
28:00
Speaker 1: ton of one-score games last year. I know Sean Payton
28:02
Speaker 1: has preached to the team in private meetings, like, we're
28:04
Speaker 1: not going to win all those again, so let's make
28:06
Speaker 1: sure we're in a different spot in the fourth quarter.
28:08
Speaker 1: But I see very few reasons why we shouldn't be
28:11
Speaker 1: looking at Denver in this, because there's just so few
28:13
Speaker 1: questions surrounding that organization right now.
28:16
Speaker 3: All right, James, final 30 seconds with you. Thanks for
28:19
Speaker 3: hanging out. We'll watch you all season on Amazon. The
28:21
Speaker 3: NFC North, I'm an NFC North guy. They have a
28:23
Speaker 3: lot of good teams. Do they have a Super Bowl
28:26
Speaker 3: team in that division? Hmm. I don't know. What was
28:30
Speaker 3: your take? I want yours first. I think I always
28:34
Speaker 3: liked the Packers, but I don't love the Packers. I
28:36
Speaker 3: think the Bears, it might be a little premature, a
28:39
Speaker 3: really good season last year. And then the Lions, I
28:41
Speaker 3: can't tell if their window is closed or they're right
28:43
Speaker 3: back in the thick of things. Of those three, I'd
28:46
Speaker 3: pick the Lions. I honestly would.
28:48
Speaker 1: I think they really kind of focus on themselves this season.
28:50
Speaker 1: They really didn't have joint practices with anybody. It was
28:52
Speaker 1: really like Let's focus on us. I think the offensive
28:55
Speaker 1: line is back to what it's been in past years.
28:57
Speaker 1: Jameer Gibbs could be Offensive Player of the Year. Jared
28:59
Speaker 1: Goff is so underrated. Can the defense stay healthy? That's
29:02
Speaker 1: such a huge.
29:03
Speaker 3: Part of this.
29:04
Speaker 1: I think the Lions might have the best go of
29:06
Speaker 1: it out of that division of a team that could
29:08
Speaker 1: come out of the NFC.
29:09
Speaker 2: James, really appreciate the time. Real quick, I gave you
29:11
Speaker 2: a choice. Phillies, World Series win. Ohio State Buckeyes, another
29:15
Speaker 2: national title. Which one are you picking? Oh, God.
29:18
Speaker 1: I'll go Phillies World Series ring. That works for the organization.
29:20
Speaker 1: Would love to see him get a ring again after 08.
29:23
Speaker 1: So I'll go Phillies over Ohio State.
29:26
Speaker 2: Man, that was painful. That was tough for me.
29:28
Speaker 3: That was really tough for me. We got Texas this weekend?
29:30
Speaker 2: Oh my God. Oh, right. Of course. All right, James,
29:33
Speaker 2: we'll talk to you throughout the season. Thanks for the time.
29:35
Speaker 2: Appreciate it, buddy. Take care, guys.
29:37
Speaker 3: That was fun.
29:38
Speaker 2: Yeah.
29:39
Speaker 3: You know, I think what's interesting what he mentioned about
29:41
Speaker 3: denver it does feel like denver is still lightly respected
29:45
Speaker 3: they could have got it last year the defensive backs
29:47
Speaker 3: are awesome the defensive line's awesome.
29:48
Speaker 2: Oh yeah no i'm i gotta be honest we're gonna
29:50
Speaker 2: do our super bowl picks in a little bit looking
29:53
Speaker 2: pretty hard looking pretty hard to colorado.
29:55
Speaker 3: Okay, don't tease it. Don't tease it. All right, let's
29:57
Speaker 3: get to some not-so-fast predictions. We're doing it all day
30:00
Speaker 3: on not-so-fast. The Offensive Rookie of the Year and the
30:02
Speaker 3: Defensive Rookie of the Year. The O-Roy and the D-Roy. Pearl,
30:06
Speaker 3: you go first. Offensive.
30:07
Speaker 2: Okay, it's not a great offensive rookie class. In fact,
30:10
Speaker 2: it's not a great draft class overall. You don't want
30:12
Speaker 2: to pick the most obvious choice here, but I'll tell you,
30:14
Speaker 2: I looked at the past Offensive Rookie of the Year winners.
30:17
Speaker 2: There were a lot of top ten picks. So I'm
30:20
Speaker 2: going to look mainly at the top ten, and that
30:21
Speaker 2: would be Jeremiah Love and Carnell Tate. Those are my
30:24
Speaker 2: top two guys. I know it's obvious. I'm going to
30:28
Speaker 2: ride the obvious pick. Jeremiah Love is going to get
30:30
Speaker 2: 1,000 yards in Arizona. They're not going to win a
30:32
Speaker 2: ton of games. In fact, I don't know if they're
30:35
Speaker 2: going to win more than four or five games. That'll
30:36
Speaker 2: be enough. Love wins the offensive rookie.
30:39
Speaker 3: He's definitely going to get the touches out there. I
30:40
Speaker 3: don't know if they're going to be able to block
30:41
Speaker 3: for him. I think he's going to catch more than run.
30:43
Speaker 3: I'm also going with a Notre Dame running back. Jadarian Price,
30:47
Speaker 3: Seahawks rookie running back. I love Jadarian Price. Here's what
30:50
Speaker 3: I like about them. The Seahawks let Kenneth Walker III go.
30:53
Speaker 3: Now it's Ken Walker. And they bring in Jadarian Price
30:56
Speaker 3: late in the first round. He is a cheaper option
30:58
Speaker 3: for the next four years at that position, even though
31:00
Speaker 3: he's a first-round pick. Jadarian Price in college, he never
31:03
Speaker 3: had 200 carries in the season because Jeremiah Love did
31:05
Speaker 3: the lion's share of the carry. He is a low-mileage option.
31:08
Speaker 3: Jadarian Price, my rookie of the year. He averaged six
31:10
Speaker 3: yards a carry in everything.
31:12
Speaker 2: How do you know that's a good thing? We've never
31:13
Speaker 2: seen him be a workhorse. Also, Seattle loves to split carries.
31:16
Speaker 3: Derrick Henry was a low-mileage guy in college for most
31:18
Speaker 3: of his career. I'm big on the low. You know
31:20
Speaker 3: I like low-mileage.
31:21
Speaker 2: You're already going Derrick Henry? You're going Derrick Henry.
31:23
Speaker 3: I got high-mileage cars, low-mileage running backs. That's my motto.
31:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just worry Zach Charbonnet is going to come
31:28
Speaker 2: back eventually. I looked pretty hard at Price, but love.
31:32
Speaker 2: I mean, who else? I know they have other running
31:34
Speaker 2: backs there. They have to push Love. I feel pretty good.
31:38
Speaker 2: And who started in their game?
31:40
Speaker 1: Love.
31:41
Speaker 3: You're going with Love. You always do.
31:43
Speaker 4: You're a lover.
31:43
Speaker 3: All right, let's get to it. The defensive rookie of
31:45
Speaker 3: the year. I will go first.
31:46
Speaker 2: Okay.
31:47
Speaker 3: You know I'm a fan of short-armed people. You know me.
31:49
Speaker 3: You're a long-armed guy, big wingspan. Me, not so much.
31:52
Speaker 3: That's my tease here. Reuben Bain, the defensive end for
31:55
Speaker 3: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He was awesome with the Miami
31:58
Speaker 3: Hurricanes last year. This guy is purely a pass rusher.
32:01
Speaker 3: He's not there to do other things. And those guys
32:04
Speaker 3: are the guys who get eight, nine, or ten sacks
32:06
Speaker 3: as a rookie and just take the Defensive Rookie of
32:08
Speaker 3: the Year award. Sacks get you the award. I'm going
32:11
Speaker 3: Reuben Bain, short arms. but he's going to be able
32:13
Speaker 3: to reach the trophy when he gets it.
32:15
Speaker 2: But how is he going to get to the quarterback
32:16
Speaker 2: with those little T-Rex arms?
32:17
Speaker 3: The T-Rex arms are fine because he's running like this
32:19
Speaker 3: and pushing people out.
32:21
Speaker 2: Todd Bowles' defense, they sort of spread out the production.
32:24
Speaker 2: I'm going to a defense that is going to have
32:26
Speaker 2: big sack numbers this year, believe it or not. That's
32:28
Speaker 2: the New York Jets. And David Bailey, to me, when
32:30
Speaker 2: you watched college football last year, there was one pass
32:33
Speaker 2: rusher that stood out. It was Bailey by far. Now listen,
32:36
Speaker 2: I'm going obvious. I'm picking the number two overall pick
32:38
Speaker 2: and the number three overall pick. I got David Bailey
32:40
Speaker 2: for defensive rookie. I wish I didn't like your pick
32:42
Speaker 2: so much, but it's a great pick. He's got longer arms, Paul.
32:45
Speaker 3: He has longer arms, but I don't know if he's
32:48
Speaker 3: a better person than Reuben Bain.
32:50
Speaker 2: Yeah.
32:50
Speaker 3: If that matters.
32:51
Speaker 2: All right, coming up next, we have the Clip Joy.
32:54
Speaker 2: The Western Michigan-Michigan fallout continues on the Dan Pachter Show.
32:58
Speaker 2: We'll get into it. Not so fast.
33:00
Speaker 3: Back on Not So Fast with Paps and Perloff, getting
33:02
Speaker 3: you ready for football tonight this is our little not
33:04
Speaker 3: so fast tailgate not really out of hand yet it's
33:07
Speaker 3: kind of ramping up yeah we got what eight hours
33:10
Speaker 3: eight hours to go but we're ready we're marathon guys
33:12
Speaker 3: all right this is the clip joint the good bad
33:14
Speaker 3: and ugly that was booger mcfarland of espn joining dan
33:16
Speaker 3: patrick earlier and it's nice that they could have a
33:19
Speaker 3: nice little debate there but dan just couldn't convince booger
33:22
Speaker 3: to go the other way later he said what if
33:24
Speaker 3: we're lsu he goes If this were LSU, I'd be
33:26
Speaker 3: stuck on the table. So that was a good back
33:28
Speaker 3: and forth.
33:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dan and Booger always had great chemistry. I thought
33:32
Speaker 2: he was going to get Booger. I was watching that
33:33
Speaker 2: interview glued. But the problem is you're going to have
33:36
Speaker 2: to take a win away from Michigan, and that has
33:38
Speaker 2: ramifications as well. Not even talking about the Michigan fan base.
33:42
Speaker 2: I actually, I side with Booger. I would not change
33:45
Speaker 2: a result.
33:46
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you from the standpoint of it's tough
33:48
Speaker 3: to do because it sets some type of weird precedent.
33:50
Speaker 3: But this game is going to become legendary. It's almost like,
33:53
Speaker 3: If they just won the game, it's a great upset.
33:56
Speaker 3: And we would have moved on in about a day.
33:57
Speaker 3: We just said, like, wow, Western Michigan, what a great win.
34:00
Speaker 3: Slow start for University of Michigan. But it wouldn't be
34:03
Speaker 3: this thing. And it's a thing forever. And, you know,
34:05
Speaker 3: it's funny. It's a long way away. But 2029, your
34:08
Speaker 3: Western Michigan Broncos are back in Ann Arbor.
34:11
Speaker 2: Oh, wow. I mean, luckily it was this game, too.
34:13
Speaker 2: What if this was Michigan-Ohio State? What if this was
34:16
Speaker 2: a playoff game? So now the whole sport got a warning.
34:20
Speaker 2: Next time we get down to zero on the clock,
34:23
Speaker 2: You know, you follow what's on TV. Awesome, yeah. I
34:27
Speaker 2: love that interview, and I love how close Booger came
34:30
Speaker 2: to actually flip-flopping, but the result stands.
34:33
Speaker 3: Now, here's a game that maybe this coach does not
34:35
Speaker 3: want to talk about anymore, but he has to. Dabo Sweeney,
34:37
Speaker 3: the head coach at Clemson, they got absolutely lit up
34:40
Speaker 3: the other day against LSU. Well, you know, he decided
34:43
Speaker 3: now to put up a fight. He put up a
34:45
Speaker 3: fight with a press member in the press conference.
34:49
Speaker 1: Do you regret anything about your off-season roster construction right now?
34:54
Speaker 4: Chapel, you come with all these questions.
34:56
Speaker 2: I'll tell you, you're the gotcha guy. No, I don't.
35:00
Speaker 3: I don't, man.
35:01
Speaker 4: I regret being 0-1-1 right now.
35:03
Speaker 3: I regret that.
35:05
Speaker 4: But, no, we're– can you ask me that at the
35:09
Speaker 4: end of the season? You know, the season isn't over.
35:12
Speaker 4: I mean, we've got one game. We've got 11 more.
35:14
Speaker 3: What if we go 11-1-1?
35:16
Speaker 4: You promised me you asked me that then?
35:18
Speaker 2: Okay, good. I'll answer it. All right?
35:20
Speaker 4: But I'm not answering questions like that, you know, Chapel.
35:23
Speaker 4: I know that's your role and that's in this environment,
35:26
Speaker 4: you know, to be the guy that wants to create
35:29
Speaker 4: all the controversy and ask the controversial questions. If that's
35:33
Speaker 4: who you are, that's fine.
35:35
Speaker 2: I get it. But I'll answer that. We played one game.
35:39
Speaker 2: One game.
35:40
Speaker 3: All right? Did you play football?
35:44
Speaker 2: No. Okay.
35:44
Speaker 3: Well, they give you 12 games.
35:47
Speaker 4: And at the end of the year, you count them up.
35:49
Speaker 3: All right.
35:50
Speaker 4: And, you know, that's when that's when those type of
35:54
Speaker 4: questions are fair to me. You know, not after one
35:58
Speaker 4: game to maybe the best team in the country.
36:03
Speaker 2: Dabo was doing OK until he went to the did
36:05
Speaker 2: you play football? We know that doesn't end well for
36:07
Speaker 2: an interview subject.
36:08
Speaker 3: And.
36:09
Speaker 2: The guy who asked the question isn't creating the controversy.
36:11
Speaker 2: Clemson is creating the controversy by getting killed by LSU.
36:14
Speaker 3: I'm with you. Dabo had me for a while. Like, hey,
36:17
Speaker 3: calm down. He went the old Aaron Rodgers, relax. It's
36:20
Speaker 3: not over yet. Now, you were 7-6 last year. You
36:23
Speaker 3: just got absolutely annihilated on national TV. You can't go
36:26
Speaker 3: scorched earth. But when he went, did you play football?
36:29
Speaker 3: If I were there, I would have said, yeah, I
36:30
Speaker 3: was a backup defensive tackle for the Glenwood Cougars in
36:32
Speaker 3: 7th and 8th grade. What about that, Dabo? I don't
36:35
Speaker 3: know what he would have said there.
36:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's so funny. Dabo was surprised by the question.
36:38
Speaker 2: They just got absolutely blown out by LSU. Funny thing
36:41
Speaker 2: about Clemson, last year they had a pretty good roster.
36:43
Speaker 2: There were a lot of pro players on that roster.
36:46
Speaker 2: So this question about this year's roster construction, not only
36:48
Speaker 2: is it fair, I think it's necessary for that fan base.
36:51
Speaker 3: And the funny thing is, Clemson fans are getting used
36:53
Speaker 3: to losing in Week 1. He's done this a lot
36:55
Speaker 3: the past five years, as you saw right there. But
36:57
Speaker 3: I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt
36:59
Speaker 3: for about a month. Because he can clean this up
37:01
Speaker 3: with three straight wins.
37:03
Speaker 2: I've been consistent all along. I think Dabo's on his
37:05
Speaker 2: way out.
37:06
Speaker 3: I think so, too.
37:07
Speaker 2: I think that he is not really ready for this
37:10
Speaker 2: era of NIL. I think he doesn't want to change.
37:13
Speaker 2: He doesn't want to change with the times. He might
37:14
Speaker 2: as well do what Nick Saban did and just leave.
37:16
Speaker 3: What a wild career turn. Because six or seven years ago,
37:18
Speaker 3: he was the coach in waiting for Alabama. It was
37:20
Speaker 3: just like, they're going to hand off Alabama football to him. Now,
37:23
Speaker 3: he's going to have to restart his career at a
37:26
Speaker 3: tier lower if he goes somewhere else next year.
37:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't expect that to happen. All right,
37:29
Speaker 2: let's go to the NFL. Aaron Donald did not travel
37:32
Speaker 2: to the Rams in Australia for their opener tomorrow night.
37:34
Speaker 2: And Niners coach Kyle Shanahan was quite happy when he
37:37
Speaker 2: learned the news.
37:40
Speaker 3: I just smiled and said, that's good. So we're going
37:43
Speaker 3: to have to see him eventually.
37:44
Speaker 2: We play them twice.
37:47
Speaker 3: But I was hoping he won it. I was preparing
37:49
Speaker 3: for the worst.
37:49
Speaker 2: Yeah.
37:51
Speaker 3: Glad that we don't have to see him this week.
37:54
Speaker 3: I love the honesty. Nobody wants to face Aaron Donald.
37:57
Speaker 3: He's not trying to be one of those tough guy
37:58
Speaker 3: coaches like, we'll take on any comers, we'll take on
38:00
Speaker 3: all channels. No, and I wish Miles Garrett would stay
38:03
Speaker 3: home and rest with him.
38:04
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think that Kyle Shanahan's a little
38:06
Speaker 2: punch drunk from the time zone, Chase.
38:08
Speaker 3: And I like it.
38:08
Speaker 2: But he was trying to use all this Rams hype
38:11
Speaker 2: as bulletin board material coming into the week. You know
38:13
Speaker 2: that he was in the locker room saying, did you
38:15
Speaker 2: see all these people were picking the Rams? So I
38:17
Speaker 2: don't know why he's all of a sudden being like, oh,
38:19
Speaker 2: I'm happy Aaron Donald isn't here. And let's be honest,
38:21
Speaker 2: Aaron Donald just got to camp. Was he going to
38:23
Speaker 2: make that big a difference?
38:24
Speaker 3: I think so. I don't think he's going to be
38:26
Speaker 3: Miles Garrett week one. But I think Aaron Donald, what
38:28
Speaker 3: an interesting position to be in for your final season
38:31
Speaker 3: where you have this negotiated employee where I'm not going
38:33
Speaker 3: to go here. I'm going to play at home. If
38:35
Speaker 3: we get to the Super Bowl, I get to play
38:37
Speaker 3: at home. If we get home field advantage, I get
38:38
Speaker 3: to stay at home. He's going to be going to
38:40
Speaker 3: PTA meetings on Tuesdays on.
38:41
Speaker 2: His day off.
38:42
Speaker 3: Aaron Donald has all the balls in his court, and
38:44
Speaker 3: he's going to make $ 20- plus million to play 21 games.
38:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, and obviously going to Australia would be a huge
38:51
Speaker 2: burden physically on a guy who's 35, although I did
38:54
Speaker 2: see the play, and it looks very, very nice.
38:56
Speaker 3: It does look comfy. Guys like us would have gone.
38:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely.
38:58
Speaker 3: All right, let's get to it. It's time for our
39:00
Speaker 3: next NFL pick, getting you ready for the season. We
39:03
Speaker 3: did some Opoi, some Depoi. Now it's time for the
39:05
Speaker 3: NFL most valuable player. I'm going to go first, Perloff.
39:09
Speaker 2: Okay.
39:09
Speaker 3: Now, you know the MVP is about timing, who you are,
39:12
Speaker 3: when you are. Here's some people who can't win it.
39:16
Speaker 3: I don't think Josh Allen can win it because he
39:18
Speaker 3: hasn't advanced deep in the playoffs, and it's going to
39:20
Speaker 3: be a ding against him. He could have another great
39:22
Speaker 3: regular season. Lamar Jackson, he can win it, but it's
39:25
Speaker 3: going to be tough because he's got a couple. Patrick
39:28
Speaker 3: Mahomes could definitely win it because he missed a lot
39:29
Speaker 3: of last season. And if he has one of those
39:31
Speaker 3: 40 touchdown years, Herbert, of course. My pick is Joe
39:34
Speaker 3: Burrow because it's his time. I think the entire NFL
39:37
Speaker 3: media would love to hand it to Joe Burrow. New story.
39:40
Speaker 3: Stay healthy. 4,300 yards, 44 touchdowns.
39:44
Speaker 2: The award is yours. Listen, Joe Burrow is obviously... one
39:48
Speaker 2: of the best quarterbacks in the league, strong case. But
39:51
Speaker 2: can he stay healthy, Paul? That's it. It's been a while.
39:54
Speaker 2: And can the Bengals be a winning team? Now, to
39:56
Speaker 2: be MVP, you have to have double-digit wins. That's an
39:59
Speaker 2: absolute necessity. So the Bengals' defense falling apart could actually
40:02
Speaker 2: cost Burrow. I am actually going to do something a
40:07
Speaker 2: little controversial. All last week I was saying there's too
40:09
Speaker 2: much hype around the Cowboys. But if the Cowboys get
40:13
Speaker 2: to 11 wins, which I expect them to do, Then
40:16
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott is your NFL MVP. He came in second
40:19
Speaker 2: in the voting in 2023. Last year, he had great numbers,
40:23
Speaker 2: 30 touchdowns, 10 interceptions. He could put up huge offensive
40:28
Speaker 2: numbers here, Paul. If Dak Prescott throws 40 touchdowns, which
40:31
Speaker 2: is very possible with receivers like Lamb and Pickens, stronger
40:35
Speaker 2: running game. I don't know if the defense is fixed.
40:37
Speaker 2: You know what? If the defense is not totally fixed,
40:39
Speaker 2: that means more offense for Dallas. I think they win
40:42
Speaker 2: double-digit games. I'm actually picking them to win the NFC
40:45
Speaker 2: East over the Eagles. Both are playoff teams. But if
40:49
Speaker 2: you get 11 wins with Dallas and Dak has big numbers,
40:52
Speaker 2: I think they want to give it to Dak. The
40:53
Speaker 2: media likes Dak Prescott. And you're right. Josh Allen already
40:56
Speaker 2: got his. Lamar's gotten twice. Burrow, I'm just not sure
41:00
Speaker 2: the team is good enough. I think the defense sells
41:03
Speaker 2: major question marks, and that might cost them. I think
41:06
Speaker 2: Dak hits all the right spots.
41:07
Speaker 3: Dude, you are more all-in than Jerry Jones is on
41:10
Speaker 3: his team. You're going to be the guy sitting next
41:11
Speaker 3: to him in the booth cleaning his glasses one day.
41:13
Speaker 2: Well, for me, the hype about the Cowboys was the playoffs.
41:16
Speaker 2: We've seen them go 12-5 and then bow out early
41:18
Speaker 2: in the playoffs time and time again. So when people
41:20
Speaker 2: are talking about Super Bowl picks, I do not want
41:22
Speaker 2: to see Dallas. But if you're talking about awards, which
41:24
Speaker 2: are based on the regular season, let's go Dak.
41:26
Speaker 3: Wow, I've never seen someone all-in. I'm surprised you didn't
41:28
Speaker 3: pick Caleb Downs as well. I'll give you the do-over
41:30
Speaker 3: on that. All right, coming up next, it's time for
41:33
Speaker 3: our Super Bowl picks. Vegas is waiting. Vegas wants to know.
41:36
Speaker 3: It's going to set the lines. NSF Super Bowl picks next.
41:39
Speaker 3: Stick around.
41:42
Speaker 2: Welcome back to Not So Fast, Perloff and Paps. I
41:44
Speaker 2: love this. NBC Sports logo, NFL kickoff week. Let's go
41:48
Speaker 2: over some of the luminaries there. We've got Mike Florio,
41:51
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin, of course, DP. Then there's Paul Paps and
41:55
Speaker 2: Andrew Perloff.
41:56
Speaker 3: You know, I just checked. I assume you photoshopped us
41:58
Speaker 3: into that picture. That's an official NBC Sports Now photo.
42:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, why are we the same height, though, Paul?
42:03
Speaker 3: They did take you down three or four inches.
42:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I've got to tell you, it gets me
42:07
Speaker 2: so fired up.
42:08
Speaker 3: We're happy to be there. We're just happy to be there.
42:11
Speaker 2: Well, we're also happy with these football seasons here. We've
42:13
Speaker 2: been doing predictions all show long. We are getting now
42:17
Speaker 2: to the finale. Super Bowl pick. By the way, DP
42:21
Speaker 2: went today. He went Broncos over Eagles.
42:23
Speaker 3: That's gutsy.
42:24
Speaker 2: It's gutsy. I'm an Eagles fan. I was happy about that.
42:27
Speaker 2: Dan is pretty accurate with these picks. But we're going
42:30
Speaker 2: to give it our best shot, too. Paul, you want
42:31
Speaker 2: to start off?
42:32
Speaker 3: I'll go first. I am not picking the Rams or
42:34
Speaker 3: the Bills. I decided to go away from those. Based
42:36
Speaker 3: off last year, nobody saw the Seahawks coming. Nobody saw
42:40
Speaker 3: the Patriots coming. I wanted to go a little off
42:42
Speaker 3: the board, not just to be cool, not to pander,
42:45
Speaker 3: but I'm going Lions over Bengals to win the Super Bowl,
42:48
Speaker 3: and here's why. The Lions feel like they're a bit due.
42:51
Speaker 3: The Bengals feel like they're a bit due. When they
42:53
Speaker 3: put their teams together, I love the Dexter Lawrence pickup
42:55
Speaker 3: for the Bengals. I like the Lions lineup every year.
42:57
Speaker 3: I think they're a Super Bowl contender every year. They're
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Speaker 3: due to win it. They've got to win it. Same
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Speaker 3: with the Bengals. It's the due bowl.
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Speaker 2: Okay, the Brooklyn Nets are due to win an NBA title.
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Speaker 2: That doesn't mean it's going to happen, Paul.
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Speaker 3: That's a warm take.
43:08
Speaker 2: Honestly, my big concern about the Lions is Ben Johnson.
43:11
Speaker 2: I think the best coach in that building is in
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Speaker 2: Chicago right now. Can I just ask, were you tempted
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Speaker 2: to pick the Bears?
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Speaker 3: No, I almost like Bears fans are used to bad
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Speaker 3: things happening, and to pick the Bears to win the
43:23
Speaker 3: Super Bowl would be counter to the Bears fans' mentality.
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Speaker 2: And I also don't know about that coach in Cincinnati,
43:28
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor, but I do like your pick a lot.
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Speaker 2: Give it to me.
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Speaker 3: That would be amazing.
43:32
Speaker 2: Okay. No one can accuse me of copying Dan Patrick,
43:36
Speaker 2: because I emailed our producer, Scott Messina, earlier in the day.
43:39
Speaker 2: I have the Denver Broncos defeating the L.A. Rams. Wow. Listen,
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Speaker 2: the Rams hype is obviously real. I know the odds
43:48
Speaker 2: are that the favorite rarely wins at all. That's why
43:51
Speaker 2: I have them losing to Denver. Denver has everything. They
43:53
Speaker 2: have most of their defense back, and their defense was
43:55
Speaker 2: very elite last year. This year, Bo Nix is back,
43:58
Speaker 2: and he's got a new coordinator, Davis Webb. Getting in
44:00
Speaker 2: the plays really fast is what everyone's saying. The offense
44:04
Speaker 2: is humming. Add Jalen Waddell for a vertical element. I
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Speaker 2: just don't see the flaw. The biggest concern I have, Paul,
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Speaker 2: is the schedule. It's going to be tough. They're in
44:12
Speaker 2: the AFC West with the Chargers and the Chiefs, not
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Speaker 2: so much the Raiders. They have a very, very tough
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Speaker 2: opening part to the season, the first six games. I
44:19
Speaker 2: really like Bo Nix, and, of course, I like Sean Payton.
44:22
Speaker 2: I am a little worried that I'm going to be
44:24
Speaker 2: the mush on Dan's pick, but I've liked the Broncos
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Speaker 2: all offseason long. I thought they would have made it
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Speaker 2: last year if Bo Nix had stayed healthy, and they
44:32
Speaker 2: almost made it with Jared Stidham. So I got Denver
44:34
Speaker 2: over the Rams.
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Speaker 3: All right, love your pick, love the waddle pickup. That's
44:37
Speaker 3: kind of quiet and sneaky. It's time for a little
44:39
Speaker 3: leftovers here on Not So Fast. Always room for leftovers.
44:43
Speaker 3: This is a cool thing. We love the Heisman here
44:45
Speaker 3: on the show. This is called the Heisman Hopefuls Fan Vote.
44:48
Speaker 3: It just went live a couple hours ago. You probably
44:50
Speaker 3: already voted for Malachi Tony. Heisman.com slash hopefuls. You can
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Speaker 3: vote for the top three players. It's a true Heisman vote.
44:57
Speaker 3: And the fan has a voice this year.
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Speaker 2: And.
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Speaker 3: You don't have to just vote for quarterbacks or wide
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Speaker 3: receivers or running backs. You can vote for a defensive
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Speaker 3: tackle if you like.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, listen, I've been all over Malachi, Tony.
45:07
Speaker 2: I love, there's a player at Texas, Colin Simmons. I
45:11
Speaker 2: love the defensive end as well. Yeah, no, this is
45:14
Speaker 2: a great year for college football too. There's so many
45:16
Speaker 2: stars to vote for. I'm going to go back often.
45:19
Speaker 2: But Malachi, Tony, I got to tell you, right now
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Speaker 2: he's number one, Paul.
45:22
Speaker 3: Every Friday on the show, we go getting the Heisman.
45:24
Speaker 3: We'll do that on Friday and not so fast. All right,
45:26
Speaker 3: time for a little constructive criticism. What do you think
45:28
Speaker 3: about our hair? or commentary, or sports. Here we go.
45:31
Speaker 3: A little constructive criticism, Pearl.
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Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 3: First one up. Which quarterback take a step forward or back? Allen, Burrow, Jackson,
45:41
Speaker 3: et cetera.
45:41
Speaker 2: All right.
45:41
Speaker 3: How about a step back? Out of those three, a
45:43
Speaker 3: step back.
45:44
Speaker 2: Okay. Well, Allen's got the same offense coordinator, so he's
45:46
Speaker 2: going to be the same. Burrow is lining up for
45:48
Speaker 2: a good season. I've got to tell you, Lamar Jackson,
45:51
Speaker 2: because of the new offense, Declan Doyle's there, unproven. I've
45:54
Speaker 2: seen a lot of really strong analytical people say that
45:57
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson is not going to have the same kind
45:59
Speaker 2: of stat season that he did as an MVP. That
46:01
Speaker 2: doesn't mean the team is going to be worse, but
46:03
Speaker 2: I do not expect Lamar Jackson to hold on the
46:06
Speaker 2: ball and make all the wow plays. I think they're
46:07
Speaker 2: going to be a little more conservative on offense.
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Speaker 3: Okay, more constructive criticism tomorrow. Send in your comments on Twitter.
46:12
Speaker 3: We'll get to them on the air. It's time for
46:14
Speaker 3: something to put you in a good moodie, as if
46:16
Speaker 3: you're not already with Football Tonight on NBC. Here is
46:18
Speaker 3: the feel-good. Little tennis last night, Pearl. My guy, Francis Tiafoe,
46:25
Speaker 3: consoling Alex Mickelson after beating him. Look at that. Mickelson
46:29
Speaker 3: kind of broke down. Great match, great comeback by Tiafoe.
46:33
Speaker 3: And then late night. This match started at 11 p.m. Eastern.
46:37
Speaker 3: Ben Shelton against Alcaraz went to 3.30 in the morning.
46:41
Speaker 3: We were up and watching, of course.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was really touched by Tiafoe because his opponent
46:45
Speaker 2: has been serving for the match on the third point.
46:47
Speaker 2: They're old friends, both Americans. Tennis is grueling because you
46:51
Speaker 2: work for four hours and someone's got to lose. Now
46:54
Speaker 2: I'm all about the American's ball. Let's go.
46:56
Speaker 3: That is some late-night sports, though. I mean, playing at
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Speaker 3: 3.30 in the morning, I guess you just got to
47:00
Speaker 3: ignore it like Shanahan.
47:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, it's tough on us, too. We're the ones
47:06
Speaker 2: who suffer because we have to watch this.
47:07
Speaker 3: Yeah, think about us staying up all night playing with
47:09
Speaker 3: the remote. All right, coming up tonight, NBC Sports, Pat Seahawks,
47:12
Speaker 3: who you got?
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Speaker 2: I am going Seahawks. They won on a neutral field.
47:15
Speaker 2: They'll definitely win in the home field.
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Speaker 3: I'm going to go Patriots in a close one, hopefully overtime,
47:20
Speaker 3: so we can be even more tired tomorrow. All right,
47:22
Speaker 3: stick around. More football coverage tomorrow on the Dan Patrick Show,
47:25
Speaker 3: 9 to noon Eastern on NBC Sports Now. And then,
47:28
Speaker 3: not so fast, every day, right here on NBC Sports Now.
47:31
Speaker 3: Send in your thoughts. Send in your comments. They'll make
47:32
Speaker 3: the air. Football time.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, baby. Let's go Broncos.
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Speaker 3: Dun, dun, dun, dun.