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- 0:02Speaker 1: You see somethings going to happen. What What's going to happen? What?
- 0:17Speaker 1: I welcome back to the Occult Rejects. Today's episode is
- 0:29Speaker 1: very very exciting for me. Actually, I have mentioned numerous
- 0:33Speaker 1: times on the show that I was very much interested
- 0:35Speaker 1: in Native American and tribal stuff. And I've even had
- 0:39Speaker 1: somebody in the past come on Thrash. He came on
- 0:41Speaker 1: and did I think in two or three parts series.
- 0:44Speaker 1: But I've been very interested in the Mickbax because of that,
- 0:48Speaker 1: and I had mentioned on the show a few times.
- 0:50Speaker 2: That I really wanted to cover that topic. I just
- 0:53Speaker 2: wasn't really willing to spend the time to do it myself,
- 0:55Speaker 2: and I didn't know anybody to really do it.
- 0:57Speaker 1: So Darlene happy to be listening and happened to hit.
- 1:00Speaker 2: Me up on Twitter and she was like, Oh, I
- 1:02Speaker 2: could definitely come on and cover the Midmax and this
- 1:04Speaker 2: and that, you know, from like experience in her own life.
- 1:07Speaker 2: I was like, wow, really, So I gave us some time.
- 1:10Speaker 2: She made us shit ton of slides and obviously has
- 1:13Speaker 2: a ton of notes as well, and she came She's
- 1:16Speaker 2: on the show today to present the slide Show for
- 1:19Speaker 2: the Mickmax, so very interesting stuff in there. I was
- 1:23Speaker 2: looking through some of the slides. I think for the
- 1:25Speaker 2: people into the occult you'll find this is very interesting.
- 1:28Speaker 2: One thing that I've said on the show before, and
- 1:30Speaker 2: I think this might help, you know, solidify my idea
- 1:34Speaker 2: and theory that you know, some secret societies or some
- 1:40Speaker 2: brands of occultism might have borrowed Native American symbolism as
- 1:45Speaker 2: well and used it. So it's just interesting to see
- 1:49Speaker 2: it come back around and like how it was like,
- 1:52Speaker 2: you know, a normal symbol for some people. Other people
- 1:55Speaker 2: have no idea what the hell it is, and it's
- 1:57Speaker 2: just weird. It's like how did that? How did that
- 1:58Speaker 2: disconnect happen? But it's wild, So, uh, you're very excited
- 2:02Speaker 2: for that.
- 2:03Speaker 1: Yeah. But before I.
- 2:05Speaker 2: Introduced Darlene, let me used to introduce Judith the Loon.
- 2:10Speaker 1: What is going on? Judith?
- 2:12Speaker 3: Hello?
- 2:13Speaker 4: Thank you for having me, Darlene. I can't wait to
- 2:15Speaker 4: see the what you've accumulated about this Native American tribe
- 2:21Speaker 4: and everybody else. You could catch me on YouTube and
- 2:24Speaker 4: on X as the Loon, and I'm also on Spreaker
- 2:29Speaker 4: as a normal podcast.
- 2:30Speaker 2: Thank you nice, nice great stuff and Darlene, what is
- 2:36Speaker 2: going on? How are you I guess letting you? I
- 2:38Speaker 2: guess let people know whatever you want to introduce yourself with.
- 2:42Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks Nick first, and hi Judith. So my name
- 2:48Speaker 5: is Darlene. And although my name is Santa Paz, that's
- 2:52Speaker 5: a MCMC name. I myself am not a MCMC. My
- 2:56Speaker 5: ex husband was Mick Mack. So I was married and
- 3:00Speaker 5: lived on the reservation for more than half my life,
- 3:04Speaker 5: and so I was really immersed in the culture. I
- 3:08Speaker 5: lived on the reservation, like I said, and my ex
- 3:10Speaker 5: husband was a practitioner of Native spirituality, and so was
- 3:16Speaker 5: his family, his father, his uncles, so they were all
- 3:20Speaker 5: pipe keepers, they were lodge keepers and sun dancers, and
- 3:25Speaker 5: so it was just very present in my life.
- 3:29Speaker 6: These legends were present.
- 3:30Speaker 5: Everything I'm going to talk about I saw with my
- 3:34Speaker 5: own eyeball.
- 3:35Speaker 6: You know, this was my experience.
- 3:38Speaker 5: And also when my husband was chief for a while,
- 3:41Speaker 5: we got to travel quite a bit and meet all
- 3:44Speaker 5: kinds of other tribes and all kinds of people and
- 3:47Speaker 5: see everything and museums and and so I have a
- 3:51Speaker 5: very unique kind.
- 3:53Speaker 6: Of experience through my lived experience.
- 3:56Speaker 5: And one other thing that we had, I wanted to
- 3:58Speaker 5: mention was on the Residenvation. About thirty years ago, we
- 4:02Speaker 5: had a tourist destination called the Micmac Experience, and you
- 4:08Speaker 5: could come and there was a museum, and there was
- 4:12Speaker 5: a little restaurant and a gift shop and canoe rentals,
- 4:16Speaker 5: and there.
- 4:16Speaker 6: Was also an actual.
- 4:19Speaker 5: Medicine man that would take you on a guided tour
- 4:22Speaker 5: and talk about many of the things I want to
- 4:24Speaker 5: talk about tonight. So this is kind of the basis
- 4:27Speaker 5: of my knowledge and experience of the Makemac. So, yeah,
- 4:32Speaker 5: that's what I want us to start with.
- 4:34Speaker 1: I mean, you lived it for a long time. I
- 4:36Speaker 1: lived around it.
- 4:37Speaker 5: I mean yeah, I've seen the ceremonies, Like even to
- 4:41Speaker 5: this day, I still smudge every day.
- 4:46Speaker 1: Oh nice, okay, yeah, yeah.
- 4:52Speaker 5: So we can start. You can bring up the slides
- 4:54Speaker 5: if you want.
- 4:55Speaker 1: Yes, slides, look at this correct.
- 4:57Speaker 5: Let's have questions about me.
- 5:00Speaker 1: All the Micmac.
- 5:03Speaker 5: Indeed, so we're gonna look at who are the Micmac,
- 5:08Speaker 5: what are their beliefs, their folklore, their customs, mythologies and practices,
- 5:13Speaker 5: and why they've been so important throughout history. We will
- 5:17Speaker 5: find that from the Vikings the French, to the Knights, Templar,
- 5:20Speaker 5: the Jesuits and even the Mormons. The Macmac nation has
- 5:25Speaker 5: been woven into the many stories, histories, and the fabric
- 5:29Speaker 5: of North America. So their origins go far as far
- 5:34Speaker 5: back as the mound builders before them. They adapt well
- 5:38Speaker 5: to newcomers and are well experienced and practiced in diplomacy.
- 5:43Speaker 5: Their legacy endures, yet few know them. If we can
- 5:47Speaker 5: try to imagine what history looked like from the shores
- 5:52Speaker 5: of Migamagi, which is the mcmac land, who would we
- 5:56Speaker 5: witness landing on the shores over the centuries. What does
- 6:01Speaker 5: history look like through the lens of the Micmac, And
- 6:04Speaker 5: who and where are the mcmac today. So we're gonna
- 6:08Speaker 5: look at Oh, so we'll look at the slide. So
- 6:12Speaker 5: the people they're known as the people of the Dawn,
- 6:15Speaker 5: the keepers of the Eastern Door, and it's also been
- 6:18Speaker 5: called the Eastern Gate. Now there's not a strict determination
- 6:23Speaker 5: of what that means, but I have a theory of
- 6:26Speaker 5: what I think it means. Because of where the mouth
- 6:29Speaker 5: of the Saint Lawrence River is, which is mcmac territory,
- 6:34Speaker 5: which enters right into the center of North America. It
- 6:39Speaker 5: was their sort of duty to guard that portal or entry.
- 6:43Speaker 5: That's my theory. And they were also called the children
- 6:48Speaker 5: of the Light. They were the first men to greet
- 6:53Speaker 5: grandfather's son niscom every day. They occupy the eastern provinces
- 6:58Speaker 5: of Canada as well as Maine, and the territory later
- 7:03Speaker 5: became known as Acadia with the arrival of the French
- 7:06Speaker 5: in sixteen oh four. And at the bottom, I had
- 7:09Speaker 5: an interesting note that I kept seeing. The British were
- 7:14Speaker 5: known to call them the tarantines, and I'm not sure
- 7:16Speaker 5: what that means or why they called him that, but
- 7:18Speaker 5: I thought it was quite common. And the picture I
- 7:23Speaker 5: think is really interesting. You can see he has two
- 7:26Speaker 5: red crosses, so this is called Lama Cardien. And this
- 7:30Speaker 5: is a depiction of actually a Mick MacMahon, and you
- 7:35Speaker 5: can see us. I don't know if it's tattoos or
- 7:38Speaker 5: just drawings of two red crosses, a son and two
- 7:42Speaker 5: serpents on his chest.
- 7:44Speaker 6: So I thought that looked pretty cool.
- 7:46Speaker 5: And these are done by a guy named Jacques Grasse
- 7:52Speaker 5: de Saint Sava in the late seventeen hundreds.
- 7:55Speaker 6: He was a graphic designer known for producing.
- 7:58Speaker 5: These hand colored engravings of North American Indians. So that's
- 8:04Speaker 5: the mcmac man or Acadian man. So you can go
- 8:08Speaker 5: to the next line there. So, the mcmac are the
- 8:18Speaker 5: easternmost native tribe in Canada. Their traditional territory consists of
- 8:24Speaker 5: the maritime provinces. There's five tribes that make up the
- 8:28Speaker 5: Wabi Naki confederacy, which predates the European arrival. They're known
- 8:34Speaker 5: as the people. Yeah, I read that already. So traditionally
- 8:37Speaker 5: they were semi nomadic hunter gatherers, renowned for their basket
- 8:41Speaker 5: making skills, their birch park canoes, as well as the
- 8:46Speaker 5: art of porcupine quill crabs.
- 8:49Speaker 1: Uh.
- 8:49Speaker 5: Their knowledge of medicines and plants was highly regarded and
- 8:53Speaker 5: eagerly studied by early settlers, and.
- 8:56Speaker 6: They were known to keep a lot of their medicine.
- 8:59Speaker 5: On birch bark scrolls, which the modern medicine society still uses.
- 9:06Speaker 5: So this depiction here shows the traditional dress of the Micmac.
- 9:11Speaker 5: The woman is seated and wearing the traditional peaked hat,
- 9:14Speaker 5: peaked cap, and traditional ribbon dress, and the gentleman is
- 9:20Speaker 5: wearing what's called the captain's coat or the chief's coat.
- 9:24Speaker 5: It's called the captain's coat because it seems that it
- 9:27Speaker 5: was originally gifted by a French captain and adapted by
- 9:33Speaker 5: all the chiefs and decorated with their traditional motifs. Interesting,
- 9:41Speaker 5: you can go to the next slide. So there's a
- 9:46Speaker 5: close up of the peak cap, which is it's Algonquin
- 9:50Speaker 5: tribes are known to wear these cats, but the micmac
- 9:53Speaker 5: one is unique and it's it's quite like.
- 9:57Speaker 6: The freezing cap we see on the right.
- 10:02Speaker 5: And there's the Frisian cap also at the top, and
- 10:08Speaker 5: I included the bottom right, the little red cap is
- 10:13Speaker 5: the French Revolution cap, so that would have been you
- 10:21Speaker 5: can see kind of a lineage through Europe and France
- 10:25Speaker 5: of this cap moving to the west somehow.
- 10:29Speaker 6: I'll show you in the next You.
- 10:31Speaker 1: Said the same thing with that Jackson, the same thing
- 10:33Speaker 1: with that jack.
- 10:36Speaker 5: Yeah. Interesting, I'll show the next slide, will show and
- 10:39Speaker 5: there's smurfy by the way, because he wears a Frisian
- 10:41Speaker 5: cap too. He's smurfing. Okay, yeah, you can go to
- 10:46Speaker 5: the next So this is a closed up of a
- 10:48Speaker 5: chief coat that was gifted to Captain Henry o'hallahan and
- 10:53Speaker 5: was made a mcmac Honorary Chief in eighteen forty one.
- 10:58Speaker 5: Traditional for Galia would have included a sash at the
- 11:02Speaker 5: waist and leggings, and male headdress would consist of a
- 11:07Speaker 5: headband decorated with feathers, so not like the Western Plains
- 11:13Speaker 5: Indian big headdress that we think of sometimes.
- 11:16Speaker 6: These are mostly.
- 11:19Speaker 5: More narrow and straight up with a headband. And it
- 11:25Speaker 5: said that pre European styles were such to be similar
- 11:29Speaker 5: but crafted with skins. The Micmac were eager to trade
- 11:32Speaker 5: furs for cloths and quickly gain mastery in decorating and
- 11:36Speaker 5: embellishing them. So they were wild about cloth and they
- 11:39Speaker 5: loved the ease at with which they could decorate them,
- 11:44Speaker 5: and so they became very decorated.
- 11:48Speaker 1: That is dope, right, that is pretty cool.
- 11:54Speaker 5: So the next the bottom one there is an actual
- 11:57Speaker 5: captain's coat, so you can see kind of the the
- 12:02Speaker 5: original version and the Micmac version eventually. And then the
- 12:07Speaker 5: top one so.
- 12:09Speaker 1: For sure.
- 12:11Speaker 5: Yeah, and the little brown cap up there that was
- 12:14Speaker 5: a French sailor's cap, which also is reminiscent of that
- 12:19Speaker 5: French Revolution cap and the Friesian cap. Again we can
- 12:27Speaker 5: go to the next line. So there I have a
- 12:31Speaker 5: map just in case people aren't familiar with the Maritimes.
- 12:35Speaker 5: So the green part is New Brunswick, that blue part
- 12:38Speaker 5: is Nova Scotia, the red part is Prince Edward Island.
- 12:44Speaker 5: And so there's the flag.
- 12:45Speaker 6: Oh hey, Old World.
- 12:49Speaker 5: So the flag at the bottom we just saw on
- 12:52Speaker 5: Old World. Micmac's logo is the Micmac Grand Council Tribe.
- 12:57Speaker 6: Now it is an exact mirror.
- 12:59Speaker 5: All of the Templar flag. So the Templar flag, the
- 13:06Speaker 5: star and the moon are inversed.
- 13:12Speaker 1: That's a little that's interesting. What's that?
- 13:19Speaker 6: So we can go to the next slide.
- 13:23Speaker 5: Now for the next parts. I'm just gonna be honest.
- 13:27Speaker 5: I am not fluent in Mick Mac. A lot of
- 13:31Speaker 5: these words I've learned and heard throughout my life, but
- 13:35Speaker 5: I'm not fluent, and my pronunciation I apologize in advance.
- 13:38Speaker 5: I'm gonna do my best. So these these are sacred symbols,
- 13:44Speaker 5: often seen the most significant ones in Mick Mac culture.
- 13:49Speaker 5: So we have the eight point at star, which we
- 13:51Speaker 5: see everywhere still today like Grandma's will make blankets with
- 13:56Speaker 5: the eight pointed star. A lot of decorations have the
- 14:00Speaker 5: eight pointed star. And the next we have the pipe,
- 14:04Speaker 5: which is it's a sacred object for sure. Next to
- 14:09Speaker 5: that we have the medicine wheel with the same four
- 14:12Speaker 5: sacred colors. And this is a teaching tool. This has
- 14:15Speaker 5: many many lessons to teachers used for the four seasons.
- 14:22Speaker 5: At the bottom, we have the four medicines. There's lots
- 14:25Speaker 5: of lessons there. And so the four medicines at the
- 14:28Speaker 5: bottom are sage, cedar, sweet grass, and tobacco. And so
- 14:35Speaker 5: these are used for offerings like for smudging, and they're
- 14:42Speaker 5: used for making prayer flags and prayer ties as well
- 14:44Speaker 5: for ceremonies. Anytime you want to ask one of the
- 14:48Speaker 5: nature for.
- 14:49Speaker 6: Something, you give one of these as an offering.
- 14:54Speaker 4: Do you know the breakdown for the colors those four
- 14:57Speaker 4: sacred colors please as well?
- 15:00Speaker 3: Like the different means tribe for the.
- 15:02Speaker 5: Wheel or there's like a million different uh explanations, Like
- 15:09Speaker 5: there's directions. Each one represents a direction, each one represents medicine,
- 15:15Speaker 5: each one represents people like races, elements, and and they'll
- 15:22Speaker 5: use these objects to teach any of these lessons. Does
- 15:27Speaker 5: that make sense?
- 15:28Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you?
- 15:30Speaker 1: Okay?
- 15:31Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 15:32Speaker 2: Also basically also like the chemical colors too, isn't it.
- 15:38Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Yeah, the chemical chemical colors. Yeah, like the
- 15:45Speaker 2: Albato rubato and cintronet whatever, the citrine type of Yeah, yeah,
- 15:51Speaker 2: that's that's the same colors too.
- 15:55Speaker 5: Huh. And didn't you say that the Golden Dawn. Was
- 15:58Speaker 5: it the colors or just the shape?
- 16:01Speaker 2: Yeah, something with the pentacle. I think it's very close
- 16:03Speaker 2: to those colors.
- 16:05Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, so yeah, these are these colors are are
- 16:10Speaker 5: seen in many motifs and like designs, in dresses, ribbon dresses,
- 16:17Speaker 5: ceremonial items, stuff like that.
- 16:22Speaker 2: Just real quick, instead of the white, there would be
- 16:24Speaker 2: a green and that would be the golden door pencable.
- 16:27Speaker 5: Okay, okay, yeah, so oh so this is.
- 16:38Speaker 6: In the beginning.
- 16:39Speaker 5: This is the creation story, the Micmac creation story. So
- 16:43Speaker 5: there are seven levels or worlds of creation in the
- 16:46Speaker 5: mcmac world, and it begins with the Creator.
- 16:49Speaker 6: His name is Gizuk and he's.
- 16:51Speaker 5: The giver of life. Next comes the sun Nis come
- 16:57Speaker 5: he's called Grandfather, and he's the giver of shadow, which
- 17:01Speaker 5: is really important, okay in Micmac culture, because your shadow
- 17:05Speaker 5: accompanies you your whole life, and your shadow is your
- 17:09Speaker 5: connection to the ancestors. So in a bit I'm gonna
- 17:13Speaker 5: talk about the cosmology of the Micmac world, but in
- 17:18Speaker 5: the shadow is your connection to all of your ancestors.
- 17:22Speaker 6: It's kind of like a Peter.
- 17:23Speaker 5: Pan portal in a way, if that makes any sense.
- 17:27Speaker 5: It's very important. Next week get to Earth, which is Utsigamu,
- 17:34Speaker 5: the place where we stand, and the drums signifies her heartbeat.
- 17:42Speaker 5: Next came glues Cap. Now I don't know if everybody's
- 17:45Speaker 5: familiar with him or not, but he's like the hero
- 17:48Speaker 5: character of the micmac. He's a teacher, he's a leader,
- 17:51Speaker 5: he's a magician, and I'm gonna talk about him a
- 17:55Speaker 5: whole lot more in a bit. And he represents the
- 17:58Speaker 5: East direction. Then came grandmother Nukumi. She represents wisdom. She
- 18:07Speaker 5: was born of the rocks and she represents self direction.
- 18:12Speaker 5: Next came nephew Nedawansen. He is strength. He's born of
- 18:17Speaker 5: the sea foam and he represents West. And last came Mother.
- 18:24Speaker 5: She is love. She's born of a leaf and she
- 18:28Speaker 5: represents North. And so that item on the right there,
- 18:32Speaker 5: that's a coin that was minted by the Royal Canadian
- 18:35Speaker 5: mint that depicts the mcmac creation story, and it has
- 18:40Speaker 5: the eight pointed star with seven stars around it in
- 18:45Speaker 5: the center there with the moose, and there on the
- 18:48Speaker 5: left we can see gluse Cap with his feather and
- 18:51Speaker 5: the lightning. We can see the mother at the top
- 18:55Speaker 5: with her leaf. We can see grandmother at the bottom
- 18:58Speaker 5: and Nedawansen in the west.
- 19:01Speaker 1: So that's great.
- 19:06Speaker 7: Yeah, you can go to the next the ape when
- 19:09Speaker 7: it's star the stars surrounding it was is each of
- 19:14Speaker 7: those stars meant for each of the tribes, the different
- 19:18Speaker 7: tribes in that area.
- 19:20Speaker 5: Yeah. Actually, I think the next fly talks about the
- 19:25Speaker 5: number seven. So and because the number seven is really
- 19:29Speaker 5: really important. Yeah, it's the number for Macmac. So it's
- 19:33Speaker 5: a sacred and significant number. You get the sacred the
- 19:36Speaker 5: seven sacred directions. You have east, southwest, north, above, below,
- 19:42Speaker 5: and center. You have the seven worlds of creation. You
- 19:47Speaker 5: have the seven sacred teachings, which are love, respect, honesty, courage, wisdom, truth,
- 19:54Speaker 5: and humility. The seven districts, the seven finest prophecy, which
- 19:59Speaker 5: is an end Times prophecy.
- 20:02Speaker 6: We have the seven sacred parts of the.
- 20:04Speaker 5: Head, which are the two ears, the two eyes, the
- 20:08Speaker 5: two nostrils, and the mouth. The seven sisters, which are
- 20:12Speaker 5: the seven stars of pladies. There's lots of legends concerning those,
- 20:18Speaker 5: and also the seven sparks of the Sacred fire, which
- 20:22Speaker 5: again I'll get into that with the gluose cap legend.
- 20:26Speaker 6: So seven is.
- 20:27Speaker 5: All over the place. Oh, here we go. Here's the
- 20:37Speaker 5: creatures and beasts of the Micmac world. So the world
- 20:41Speaker 5: of the Micmac was inhabited by a variety of goblins, cannibals, magicians, witches, elves, fairies, dwarfs,
- 20:49Speaker 5: and even mermaids.
- 20:54Speaker 4: They have their own history that's similar to fairies, but most.
- 21:00Speaker 5: Oh, they have all of it. Yeah, they like nature's
- 21:02Speaker 5: spirits are more elementals, maybe because there's like the mermaids,
- 21:09Speaker 5: for instance, those are water spirits, so they have the
- 21:12Speaker 5: ability to manipulate the element if that makes sense.
- 21:18Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 21:20Speaker 5: Yeah, So that one of the more popular ones and
- 21:23Speaker 5: scary is the Chinu. He's a giant ice cannibal with
- 21:28Speaker 5: an icy heart. Well, his his heart turns to ice
- 21:33Speaker 5: when he becomes chinu in the shape of a human man.
- 21:38Speaker 5: And then to kill this Chinu you have to you
- 21:42Speaker 5: have to make him throw up this icy heart and
- 21:46Speaker 5: then throw it in a fire. They're similar to the
- 21:50Speaker 5: wendigos of the Western tribes and traditions. Then we have
- 21:56Speaker 5: boot a lot of moods. Those are stone dwarfs and
- 21:59Speaker 5: they're Simil or two like the little gnome at the
- 22:03Speaker 5: top there.
- 22:04Speaker 6: They're they're kind of playful characters. They're the little people.
- 22:08Speaker 5: And they live in in the forests and they have
- 22:11Speaker 5: little tiny canoes and they have stories of children coming
- 22:17Speaker 5: upon them and the bu Lata mood inviting them into
- 22:20Speaker 5: the canoe. And so the children, of course are way bigger,
- 22:24Speaker 5: and they say, we can't get in there because the
- 22:27Speaker 5: whole canoe will tip, and they say, oh, get in,
- 22:30Speaker 5: And as soon as that they put one foot in,
- 22:32Speaker 5: they start shrinking to the size of the little people.
- 22:36Speaker 5: So they have magical powers. And actually they're still very
- 22:41Speaker 5: present in modern culture. Like I when I was my
- 22:46Speaker 5: kids were growing up, everybody talks.
- 22:47Speaker 6: About Boodhlata mooch.
- 22:49Speaker 5: If something went missing in your house, you blame budd
- 22:52Speaker 5: Lata mooch if it or they move it. Sometimes you
- 22:55Speaker 5: look for something and then you find it somewhere else.
- 22:58Speaker 5: They play tricks on you. They still talk about that.
- 23:01Speaker 4: I'm gonna date myself, but it almost sounds like the
- 23:04Speaker 4: sours of a little cartoon. Unless you grew up in
- 23:08Speaker 4: the eighties, you don't know this. Cartoons called the Littles.
- 23:12Speaker 5: Oh, I remember the littles, yes, little.
- 23:18Speaker 4: So I'm wondering if this was like the you know,
- 23:20Speaker 4: the prototype for them to come up with that cartoon.
- 23:24Speaker 5: The Chicken or the Egg. Maybe, I'm not sure. So
- 23:30Speaker 5: then we have the Guques, who is a hairy man
- 23:34Speaker 5: eating ogre.
- 23:35Speaker 6: He is half man, half beast.
- 23:39Speaker 5: And is known to carry away children in a basket
- 23:42Speaker 5: on his back. That creature at the bottom corner is Screctamo,
- 23:48Speaker 5: So he's the ghost of an evil sorcerer. He's a
- 23:52Speaker 5: revenant and undead and he's a vampire. He lives in
- 23:57Speaker 5: ghost World, which I'm going to talk about soup. Then
- 24:02Speaker 5: we have sabawel New which are the mermaids. These are
- 24:05Speaker 5: nature spirits and they're called halfway people people of the water,
- 24:12Speaker 5: and they're alluring and dangerous. We have Jipijum, which is
- 24:18Speaker 5: the horned sea serpent. Now this is a creature that
- 24:22Speaker 5: can be as small as a worm or as big
- 24:25Speaker 5: as a whale.
- 24:25Speaker 6: He's a shape shifter in.
- 24:26Speaker 5: Size and he will show up at the end times.
- 24:33Speaker 5: And then we have Wimpy who's a giant magician and
- 24:36Speaker 5: enemy of gluse Cat. There's so many legends of these two,
- 24:39Speaker 5: like messing around and trying to trying to off each other,
- 24:44Speaker 5: and so they're like mortal enemies forever. So we can
- 24:53Speaker 5: go to the next line if.
- 24:54Speaker 3: You want, I do.
- 24:55Speaker 4: I don't have to ask a question before you get
- 24:58Speaker 4: because especially decide We're gonna have a.
- 25:01Speaker 3: Lot of questions. But it.
- 25:06Speaker 4: I'm trying to figure out whether a lot of these, uh,
- 25:10Speaker 4: the historical depictions were influenced by the French, because they're
- 25:15Speaker 4: they're up in Canada.
- 25:16Speaker 5: Correct the French are, yes, for sure?
- 25:20Speaker 3: Me know this.
- 25:21Speaker 4: The tribe is originally from up up there, the big Mac. Yes, yeah,
- 25:27Speaker 4: in the so I'm trying to figure out the influence
- 25:29Speaker 4: that they had. Did the French have the influence or
- 25:32Speaker 4: did it? When they got together, it was like the
- 25:35Speaker 4: French was sharing their.
- 25:38Speaker 5: Their well, they loved each other. The French and the
- 25:41Speaker 5: make Mac were very friendly for for a century and
- 25:45Speaker 5: a half. They had what was known as treaties of
- 25:50Speaker 5: peace and friendship. They were known to intermary uh and
- 25:56Speaker 5: had a long term peaceful relationship and ship with each other.
- 26:02Speaker 5: So a lot of cultural exchanges. That's why we see
- 26:05Speaker 5: the clothing of the chief slowly becoming quite French appearing.
- 26:10Speaker 5: Oh thanks, old girl, most yeah, I said, give me
- 26:16Speaker 5: a break. Yeah, I forgot what I was saying before
- 26:24Speaker 5: I was answering Judith's question, and I got distracted. I apologize.
- 26:27Speaker 4: No, actually you did answer it about how they intermingled
- 26:32Speaker 4: and the culture. Yeah, because I'm just while they were
- 26:36Speaker 4: sharing their exchanges when they first met and everything, the
- 26:41Speaker 4: relationship between the two, like they would share their tails,
- 26:44Speaker 4: and I was wondering if it was a conversation that
- 26:47Speaker 4: either they.
- 26:49Speaker 3: Like the stories that they were being told or they were.
- 26:51Speaker 4: Like, oh, your version of this this boogeyman is this
- 26:55Speaker 4: for us, which actually is would be fascinating that it
- 27:00Speaker 4: was a letter because they were worlds apart, oceans apart,
- 27:04Speaker 4: and they come together, had no contact with each other,
- 27:07Speaker 4: and they're like, we have similar boogeyman's and similar similar
- 27:11Speaker 4: things like the Gnomes and the Mermaids. Well, Mermaids is
- 27:14Speaker 4: known every culture that ever has mermaids, but these other
- 27:19Speaker 4: similar ones, it is is astounding.
- 27:24Speaker 5: Yeah, like that you pick there's a Norse and times
- 27:29Speaker 5: during the more I don't know how to say it,
- 27:31Speaker 5: but there's a giant snake and they both show up
- 27:33Speaker 5: at the end time battle. Yeah. But actually, Judith, you
- 27:38Speaker 5: had a good question about the French and the micmac relations.
- 27:42Speaker 5: And I have a really good interesting story that I
- 27:45Speaker 5: think will depict that about a man named Chief Member two.
- 27:50Speaker 5: Now him is a spectacular character. The more I read
- 27:54Speaker 5: about this guy, the more I wish I could get
- 27:55Speaker 5: in a time machine and go meet him. He is
- 27:58Speaker 5: six foot something, broad of shoulder, and wore a full beard. Okay,
- 28:05Speaker 5: this is in the fifteen hundreds, No, Mick Max were
- 28:09Speaker 5: not known to have facial hair, but he was proud
- 28:11Speaker 5: to wear a red beard. Red whiskers he had, and
- 28:16Speaker 5: so he was the grand Chief at the time. He
- 28:19Speaker 5: met Jacques Cartier in fifteen thirty four, when he was
- 28:23Speaker 5: I think twenty nine years old, so he was born
- 28:26Speaker 5: in fifteen eleven, I think so. By the time Port
- 28:31Speaker 5: Royal was established in Nova Scotia, which is now in sixteen.
- 28:38Speaker 6: Four, I think.
- 28:41Speaker 5: Member two is still the chief. He's one hundred and
- 28:45Speaker 5: four years old now, and he's meeting a gentleman, like
- 28:49Speaker 5: a fine fancy French lad called less cat Beau I think,
- 28:54Speaker 5: or no, I think I haven't written down. But anyways,
- 28:58Speaker 5: he makes this upper class officer from France who absolutely
- 29:03Speaker 5: adores him. So now, traditionally in French like settlements, the
- 29:10Speaker 5: hierarchy was maintained, so the officers didn't eat with the
- 29:13Speaker 5: lesser people.
- 29:15Speaker 6: There was a strict sort of separation.
- 29:18Speaker 5: But when they would invite this chief and his men over,
- 29:22Speaker 5: these men could dine with anyone anywhere they wanted, with
- 29:25Speaker 5: officers and whoever. But the officers were enthralled by the
- 29:32Speaker 5: stories that this chief would tell. They were in song,
- 29:37Speaker 5: and they were, they would become animals in front of
- 29:40Speaker 5: their eyes. And so they were just like mesmerized by
- 29:44Speaker 5: the stories this chief told they and they believed every word.
- 29:47Speaker 5: They didn't doubt these almost absurd stories adventures he'd had.
- 29:53Speaker 6: He owned a boat called I think it's a shellop.
- 29:57Speaker 5: It's a big it's not a canoe, it's a big
- 30:00Speaker 5: seafaring ship that he was very proud of. That he
- 30:03Speaker 5: would take out to see and meet the incoming Europeans.
- 30:10Speaker 5: And so when he was one hundred and four years old,
- 30:13Speaker 5: he took his men on a war party to Maine
- 30:16Speaker 5: to avenge the death of his nephew.
- 30:19Speaker 6: I think it was at one hundred and four.
- 30:22Speaker 5: So he was gone at that time for an entire winter,
- 30:25Speaker 5: and the men at Port Royal were said to be
- 30:28Speaker 5: so sad at their departure and longed for their safe
- 30:32Speaker 5: return so they could be regaled with new tales of
- 30:36Speaker 5: their adventures of this incredible man. And so when he
- 30:41Speaker 5: returned there was a major feast and a real welcome back.
- 30:46Speaker 5: So I think you can see the relationship there. And
- 30:49Speaker 5: the letters they wrote back to France about this man
- 30:52Speaker 5: is where I'm getting all these details, and it's pretty incredible.
- 30:56Speaker 5: I think, how they respected each other so well.
- 31:01Speaker 4: It actually puts the French, French and Indian War into.
- 31:06Speaker 3: A better perspective too.
- 31:09Speaker 6: Yeah, they were allies.
- 31:11Speaker 5: Well. So the first the previous winter before Member two
- 31:16Speaker 5: went on his war party had been I think the
- 31:19Speaker 5: first winter at Port Royal, which was a very difficult winter,
- 31:25Speaker 5: and Chief Member two and his men were said to
- 31:27Speaker 5: have spied them and said, these men will not make
- 31:29Speaker 5: it unless we help them. So they did and so
- 31:34Speaker 5: and that started these really lifelong, respectful relationships between the men.
- 31:44Speaker 5: So we can go to the next.
- 31:45Speaker 6: Light, Nick if you want.
- 31:49Speaker 5: So. There's tons and tons of petroglyphs out here. These
- 31:55Speaker 5: are mostly all found in Nova Scotia. The first one
- 31:59Speaker 5: there is, of course, the eight pointed Star. This is
- 32:02Speaker 5: found in Bedford Baron's Nova Scotia. Notice that there's some
- 32:11Speaker 5: do Dad, they're up in the right corner. Now rarely
- 32:15Speaker 5: is this shown as an entire photo. Usually you see
- 32:18Speaker 5: the eight pointed star, but not the little jigger at
- 32:20Speaker 5: the top, and that's said to be something to do
- 32:23Speaker 5: with the phases of the moon.
- 32:26Speaker 6: So I thought that was a cool one to add there.
- 32:32Speaker 5: The second one is a picture depicting well, a giant ship,
- 32:37Speaker 5: a tall ship, and what seems to be some shape
- 32:40Speaker 5: shifting creatures. It seemed to be met half men, half
- 32:44Speaker 5: trees or antlers, I'm not sure.
- 32:49Speaker 3: And that is.
- 32:52Speaker 5: Also a nova Scotia. The next one is a strange one.
- 32:58Speaker 5: This is a etching of one of the petroglyphs, but
- 33:02Speaker 5: it shows a six pointed star with a letter in
- 33:04Speaker 5: the center, and I thought, well, that's strange, and some.
- 33:08Speaker 6: Sort of a sailboat.
- 33:10Speaker 5: What's that?
- 33:11Speaker 3: Is it a g.
- 33:13Speaker 5: What do you see? Yeah, I'm not sure what the
- 33:16Speaker 5: significance is, but I thought it's interesting. It's a lot
- 33:22Speaker 5: of stars. The one next to it is actually still
- 33:26Speaker 5: used today. This isn't etching as well. This is still
- 33:30Speaker 5: used by this h the Grand Council. This is an
- 33:34Speaker 5: ancient symbol still used today. I don't know if you
- 33:38Speaker 5: can really make out the bottom one too. Well, this
- 33:41Speaker 5: is a wild scene. At the bottom there's a little
- 33:45Speaker 5: Davy Crockett looking guy, looks like he's got like raccoon
- 33:49Speaker 5: hat or something. And then there's the giant moose, and
- 33:55Speaker 5: there's a man on a horse and a couple of priests. Maybe,
- 33:59Speaker 5: I'm not sure. A lot going on.
- 34:01Speaker 1: Yeah, I see the Davy crock.
- 34:04Speaker 3: You see.
- 34:09Speaker 4: I'm wondering if that symbolized like maybe a hunt and
- 34:13Speaker 4: during the time of this drum do you know if
- 34:15Speaker 4: the French settlers were there by then?
- 34:18Speaker 5: It looks like priests or Jesuits maybe because they're they're
- 34:23Speaker 5: the ones on the left there there looked like they're
- 34:25Speaker 5: wearing robes and holding across to me.
- 34:29Speaker 6: But I could be.
- 34:30Speaker 1: Wrong, definitely does I'm not sure both both the tribe
- 34:37Speaker 1: and some sort of white people together.
- 34:40Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I'm not sure what any of them mean. Honestly,
- 34:44Speaker 5: I just know there. I don't even know when they
- 34:46Speaker 5: were were scratched the well, the one next to it,
- 34:52Speaker 5: the number six there. This is actually a much much
- 34:54Speaker 5: bigger petroglyph. It actually shows I think three surps a
- 35:01Speaker 5: sun and what I think is a woman, but I'm
- 35:04Speaker 5: not sure what the significance is there either it could
- 35:06Speaker 5: be a legend. And then the last one at the
- 35:10Speaker 5: bottom is them showing a whale hunt, which they did
- 35:14Speaker 5: on a canoe. Yeah, you can go to the next
- 35:22Speaker 5: side if you sure. So. Now we're going to get
- 35:28Speaker 5: into the cosmology what the world looks like. So they
- 35:33Speaker 5: call North America Turtle Island. That's the name traditionally given.
- 35:36Speaker 5: They followed a thirteen month lunar calendar. So if you
- 35:41Speaker 5: see at the back of the turtle there the turtle
- 35:43Speaker 5: shell that's used as a lunar calendar. So the inner
- 35:47Speaker 5: thirteen scales represent thirteen months and then the outer twenty
- 35:51Speaker 5: eight scales represent the day's twenty eight dies. The night
- 35:58Speaker 5: sky was called the cavern of darkness holding the stars.
- 36:02Speaker 5: It's similar to the Egyptian nut. The Milky Way was
- 36:08Speaker 5: known as the Milky River, and it's the way that
- 36:11Speaker 5: which guides the world above the sky, which we're going
- 36:14Speaker 5: to get to in a minute. This is where the
- 36:17Speaker 5: spirits go.
- 36:19Speaker 4: This is.
- 36:22Speaker 6: The way, the way.
- 36:24Speaker 5: It takes a whole year once you pass to travel
- 36:27Speaker 5: the Milky Way back to the stars and so the
- 36:34Speaker 5: the Mickmac, well, I guess there's six parallel worlds. So
- 36:38Speaker 5: we'll get to the next slide.
- 36:41Speaker 1: You know, I did.
- 36:41Speaker 2: I can't remember what it was exactly what it was.
- 36:45Speaker 2: It could have been in some sort of tribe. Well,
- 36:49Speaker 2: when I did cover Jamatra and Cypher's it was like
- 36:53Speaker 2: a two or three part series that did with Lisa.
- 36:55Speaker 2: I did mention how they showed how they did use
- 36:59Speaker 2: the shell of a turtle is like a way to
- 37:03Speaker 2: make some sort of like sigil. I think it might
- 37:06Speaker 2: have been a four by four square on the back
- 37:07Speaker 2: of a turtle or something. So I even showed how
- 37:10Speaker 2: that the back of a turtle is used in a
- 37:11Speaker 2: different way with numerology.
- 37:14Speaker 5: Yeah, that interesting. Well, each each month represents a different animal,
- 37:20Speaker 5: a different like occurrence in nature. It has a name.
- 37:26Speaker 5: M hmm, but I don't know. I wouldn't try to
- 37:29Speaker 5: pronounce them.
- 37:32Speaker 1: We got newe April April eighth, New Week.
- 37:36Speaker 6: Coming soon April eighth.
- 37:38Speaker 2: Yeah, there's the first writing of the Book of the Law,
- 37:41Speaker 2: the first book, the first part of the book.
- 37:44Speaker 1: Yeah, eighth, nice and tenth that was written.
- 37:50Speaker 5: So in the mcmac world, there's six parallel worlds. Okay,
- 37:56Speaker 5: So the word the first world is the world.
- 37:59Speaker 6: Above the sky.
- 38:00Speaker 5: So this is the Milky Way, the spirit world, the
- 38:04Speaker 5: path to the land of the dead. It's where the
- 38:08Speaker 5: ancestors dwell. It's the realm of the masters. It's the
- 38:14Speaker 5: domain of spirit beings. And it's where the stars and
- 38:18Speaker 5: celestial objects.
- 38:19Speaker 6: Are used for navigation.
- 38:22Speaker 5: So the stars are fixed, but the planets obviously move,
- 38:27Speaker 5: so they would refer to those as the traveling stars.
- 38:32Speaker 6: So it kind of works like a giant clock where.
- 38:37Speaker 5: The star the fixed stars are like the numbers on
- 38:40Speaker 5: the clock, and the planets moving are like the marker
- 38:44Speaker 5: of time, if that makes any sense. So that's the
- 38:52Speaker 5: world above the sky. Next is the world above the earth,
- 38:55Speaker 5: so this is sky world. So it's the realm all
- 39:00Speaker 5: of the birds. It's there's a giant man eating bird
- 39:04Speaker 5: also that lives in this realm, and it's it's what's
- 39:09Speaker 5: referred to as the bird's eye view for the shaman.
- 39:13Speaker 5: So a shaman would we'd learn it's kind of like
- 39:17Speaker 5: the three eyed raven maybe on the Game of Thrones.
- 39:20Speaker 5: They have to learn to embody the spirit of an
- 39:24Speaker 5: animal in order to gain the vision. Does that make sense?
- 39:29Speaker 5: So they would be able to gain a bird's eye view.
- 39:39Speaker 5: So the third one is the Earth world. So that's
- 39:41Speaker 5: the material realm where we live. It's the physical world,
- 39:45Speaker 5: but it is a temporary realm. It's the world of decay, seasons, change,
- 39:51Speaker 5: and it's very transient. Next comes the world, the World
- 39:58Speaker 5: beneath the Water. This is where Jipi gung limbs, the whales,
- 40:03Speaker 5: the mermaids, sabawell news.
- 40:10Speaker 6: And it is affected by Grandmother Moon.
- 40:12Speaker 5: This world, the water world.
- 40:15Speaker 1: Yeah, makes sense tides.
- 40:19Speaker 5: Then we have the world beneath the Earth, and this
- 40:22Speaker 5: one is kind of interesting. It's accessible. It's an accessible realm.
- 40:27Speaker 5: You can get there through secret tunnels, mountains.
- 40:34Speaker 6: It's not an underworld.
- 40:36Speaker 5: It doesn't have like undead creatures, but it's another realm
- 40:40Speaker 5: inhabited by unique dwellers. And any any Bowin who's a
- 40:47Speaker 5: magician or a medicine man has to travel through this
- 40:51Speaker 5: world to gain power and knowledge and wisdom.
- 40:58Speaker 1: HM.
- 41:00Speaker 5: So and then all around it you see what is
- 41:03Speaker 5: known as ghost World. So ghost world's the world between worlds.
- 41:08Speaker 5: It's a spirit world, a land of lost souls like
- 41:12Speaker 5: the schaechtamok Undid witch doctor. It's a dangerous realm. It
- 41:19Speaker 5: can be tricky or distorted. It's full of dangers for
- 41:26Speaker 5: the uninitiated. But a shaman could travel there for for
- 41:32Speaker 5: a medicine. Even shamans are are have access to all
- 41:36Speaker 5: of the worlds.
- 41:39Speaker 6: It's like layers of density.
- 41:41Speaker 5: If you think about it, the one the top one
- 41:43Speaker 5: is lighter than air. Then you have air and earth,
- 41:45Speaker 5: and then more more and more dense the more you go. Yeah,
- 41:56Speaker 5: so we can get to the next one.
- 41:58Speaker 1: Thank you.
- 41:59Speaker 4: Hmm.
- 42:00Speaker 1: Sounds really interesting. Actually, I even think actually.
- 42:04Speaker 5: Some of this stuff is not even common to to
- 42:09Speaker 5: modern Mickmax. This is like really rooted in the in
- 42:13Speaker 5: the tradition, So if someone is living a very sort
- 42:16Speaker 5: of modern life, they may not always know all of
- 42:20Speaker 5: these either.
- 42:22Speaker 4: I like to bring up a comment I guess al
- 42:25Speaker 4: Ali Gregory made about you could spot a few of
- 42:29Speaker 4: these within the literature and different cultures of the different tribes.
- 42:34Speaker 3: Within at least through North America or the creatures.
- 42:38Speaker 4: Well, the this sixth world level, the sixth world concept
- 42:42Speaker 4: that you just went over.
- 42:45Speaker 3: Oh, because most most of the time, if you take
- 42:49Speaker 3: a deep yeah, oh you.
- 42:54Speaker 1: Say this one actually says the show the show?
- 42:57Speaker 5: Maybe what does it say?
- 43:00Speaker 3: Oh he was referring the turtles.
- 43:02Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
- 43:10Speaker 5: Actually, here's a fun fact, Santa Paz my name is
- 43:14Speaker 5: known as Turtle clan. Oh, and the turtle clan each
- 43:18Speaker 5: each of the seven or there's there's seven try or
- 43:21Speaker 5: clans associated with like a totemorn animal, and so turtle
- 43:27Speaker 5: is responsible for they're wisdom keepers because they're they're ancient,
- 43:32Speaker 5: they're old, they're slow, and their long lives so they
- 43:37Speaker 5: carry wisdom for a long time. So anybody whose turtle clan,
- 43:41Speaker 5: that's that's their their duty.
- 43:45Speaker 1: I guess she's got Ala Gregory or whatever you call yourself.
- 43:49Speaker 2: You've got a grateful data logo. What do you think
- 43:52Speaker 2: about Terrapin Station and the turtle on that. I've always
- 43:56Speaker 2: thought that their turtle symbolism was actually a cult, I'll
- 43:58Speaker 2: tell you the truth.
- 44:02Speaker 6: A band.
- 44:02Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they're very spiritual.
- 44:05Speaker 3: Oh yeah, okay, they put from a lot of differences.
- 44:08Speaker 5: You know, if you look at the old any old
- 44:13Speaker 5: album covers, there's a lot of wild stuff out there,
- 44:16Speaker 5: like from the seventies and eighties, like all the Journey
- 44:19Speaker 5: covers is all Egyptian stuff, and so we can go
- 44:26Speaker 5: to the glose cap Yeah, there we go.
- 44:29Speaker 6: So there's Gluose Cap.
- 44:30Speaker 5: So this is an actual statue not far from here.
- 44:35Speaker 5: It's it's really tall. I can't It's like, I don't know,
- 44:37Speaker 5: forty feet tall, and it's gotta be tall. It's huge.
- 44:41Speaker 5: And he's holding a torch. He carries the fire. So
- 44:47Speaker 5: gluse Cap is a benevolent Prometheane figure. He's similar to Quetta,
- 44:52Speaker 5: Quattle or Veracocha figures. He was created from lightning. He's
- 44:57Speaker 5: created from three bolts of lightning, and so the first
- 45:02Speaker 5: bolt of lightning gives him form the form of a man,
- 45:06Speaker 5: but he's still bound to the earth and has no senses.
- 45:09Speaker 5: And so the second bolt of lightning gives him the
- 45:13Speaker 5: five sacred parts of the head. So now he has senses.
- 45:17Speaker 5: He can see and hear and taste and speak, but
- 45:20Speaker 5: he's still bound to the earth. And then comes this
- 45:24Speaker 5: third bolt of lightning, which frees him from the ground
- 45:27Speaker 5: and makes him.
- 45:29Speaker 6: Free to roam. So that's how he is born.
- 45:33Speaker 5: He's the creator of mankind. Now there's a couple. There's
- 45:36Speaker 5: two variations of how he goes about to create mankind.
- 45:40Speaker 5: The first one we mentioned earlier, which is the seventh
- 45:44Speaker 5: Sacred sparks of the Sacred Fire. So it says that
- 45:47Speaker 5: once glues Cap and his grandmother made the sacred the
- 45:51Speaker 5: first sacred fire, seven sparks flew out, and then another
- 45:55Speaker 5: seven sparks, creating the first seven men and seven women
- 45:59Speaker 5: of the Seven Tricks. The other variation speaks of glues
- 46:05Speaker 5: Cap using his arrow to shoot at the ash tree
- 46:10Speaker 5: and created man from ash tree. Yeah, he's also a
- 46:17Speaker 5: shape shifter. He's a magician. He wears a magical belt.
- 46:24Speaker 5: He's responsible for naming all the animals, all.
- 46:27Speaker 6: The plants, and the stars.
- 46:29Speaker 5: He's always accompanied by two dogs or sometimes they're wolves.
- 46:34Speaker 5: And also he's also accompanied by two messengers which are loons.
- 46:38Speaker 5: Hey Loon. He has an evil twin called Malsam. Now
- 46:45Speaker 5: Malson is called the Wolf also, and he is kind
- 46:51Speaker 5: of a trickster, and he likes to go around on
- 46:54Speaker 5: doing things that glues Cap has done. Or he'll create
- 46:59Speaker 5: twins likedine. He'll create what is a medicine. He will
- 47:04Speaker 5: make it a poison, but they look identical, you know.
- 47:08Speaker 5: He just goes around messing things up. So gluse Cap
- 47:12Speaker 5: he departs but promises to return his coming in the
- 47:16Speaker 5: last day, so his departure also has two variations. One
- 47:22Speaker 5: says that he went west, saying to the people, I
- 47:26Speaker 5: go away now, but I shall return again. When you
- 47:30Speaker 5: hear the ground tremble, know that it is I. And
- 47:34Speaker 5: the other variation says that he traveled the great Milky
- 47:37Speaker 5: Way on his canoe to the stars and became the
- 47:40Speaker 5: constellation Orion, the great Hunter, with his two dogs, Ursa
- 47:45Speaker 5: Major and Ursa Minor. Now also Sirius is called the
- 47:49Speaker 5: dog star, which is star found in Ursa Minor. I think,
- 47:55Speaker 5: and he says, when the earth begins to tremble, it
- 47:58Speaker 5: will be time for the great battle gluse Cap versus
- 48:02Speaker 5: Malsam and all the beasts of old in time when
- 48:05Speaker 5: gloose Cap wins and ushers in a great age of peace.
- 48:11Speaker 5: So if you go to the next slide, I'm going
- 48:14Speaker 5: to read you a poem trembles Igdrasil's ash yet standing
- 48:23Speaker 5: groans the aged tree, and the wolf runs. The monsters
- 48:27Speaker 5: Kin goes all with the wolf. The stony hills are
- 48:31Speaker 5: dashed together, the giantesses tottered. Then arises Helene's second grief,
- 48:37Speaker 5: when Odin goes with the wolf to fight. Now, this
- 48:42Speaker 5: is a quote from the volume spot stands as forty seven.
- 48:46Speaker 5: This is a Norse story of Ragnarok. So to me
- 48:52Speaker 5: that was very similar to the end story between the
- 48:59Speaker 5: war between Malsam and blues Cap, with all the beasts,
- 49:04Speaker 5: all the creatures and the serpents.
- 49:11Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 49:11Speaker 5: So all this is from the Aida, which are thirteenth
- 49:15Speaker 5: century Icelandic poems and tales of Odin have many similarities
- 49:20Speaker 5: to mick mac Laura and mythology.
- 49:24Speaker 4: That comment made me. I was talking about, you know,
- 49:28Speaker 4: the exchange of information with the French earlier, but that
- 49:32Speaker 4: and you're linking the Norse history with a lot of
- 49:36Speaker 4: the similarities with their and it almost proves that the
- 49:42Speaker 4: Vikings may have gotten there before the French and may
- 49:46Speaker 4: have shared before and shared their co.
- 49:50Speaker 5: We know for sure that since around one thousand AG
- 49:55Speaker 5: there's settlements in Lonso Meadows, Newfoundland, Viking settlements. These were
- 50:00Speaker 5: not like temporary fishing settlements, these were long term villages.
- 50:06Speaker 5: And so this is.
- 50:09Speaker 6: Way before the French showed up.
- 50:12Speaker 5: And I have begun to see a lot of similarities
- 50:15Speaker 5: in the and mythology and the folklore and the traditions
- 50:21Speaker 5: between the North and the Micmac. Actually there's also a
- 50:27Speaker 5: lot of archaeological evidence linking the Vikings to lots of
- 50:31Speaker 5: places in North America, including all the way to Minnesota. Yeah,
- 50:38Speaker 5: there's the what is it called the Kensington Stone in Minnesota.
- 50:44Speaker 5: And there's the Yarmic Runic Stone. Yarmouth Runic Stone, which
- 50:48Speaker 5: is in Nova Scotia is possibly a really left by
- 50:53Speaker 5: Leif Ericson in Nova Scotia.
- 50:56Speaker 4: And I was about to say something in Mark popped
- 50:59Speaker 4: up in the chat as well.
- 51:02Speaker 3: The red headed Indians.
- 51:04Speaker 4: As well, the fact that the chief that you spoke
- 51:06Speaker 4: of earlier had a red beard. I was a little
- 51:09Speaker 4: surprised by that.
- 51:10Speaker 5: I was like, and he was proud of it.
- 51:14Speaker 6: I'll tell you something funny.
- 51:15Speaker 5: My ex husband had black hair, but when he grew
- 51:19Speaker 5: a beard, he had red whiskers.
- 51:23Speaker 1: There was some noise, dude knocked up some Mick mac chick,
- 51:28Speaker 1: no doubt.
- 51:30Speaker 5: Actually there's Nick mad Blood in Iceland.
- 51:34Speaker 6: There's a story.
- 51:35Speaker 5: Where is that story? I think it's in another part,
- 51:39Speaker 5: but there's definitely a story where in the saga of
- 51:43Speaker 5: Eric the Red, which is a Norse saga, it talks
- 51:47Speaker 5: about how the it wasn't Mick Max, sorry, it was
- 51:50Speaker 5: I think definitely native but I'm not sure if it
- 51:53Speaker 5: was Mick mac. They took these two children to Iceland
- 51:58Speaker 5: native children taught them the Lane language, and and now
- 52:01Speaker 5: there's direct DNA tracing lineage in Iceland back to North America.
- 52:09Speaker 5: So there was a criss crossing between the cultures, I believe.
- 52:15Speaker 1: Oh no, I totally think so.
- 52:17Speaker 3: Most most definitely there was don't know what this is there?
- 52:22Speaker 5: Yeah, well there's more. Actually, I have a few more
- 52:25Speaker 5: slides that that gets into that a little bit. I
- 52:29Speaker 5: think the next one shows the similarities between blues Cap
- 52:33Speaker 5: and Odin. Oh, and you can notice the tree there,
- 52:36Speaker 5: that's the the Idrisil tree of life. There. Oh, there
- 52:42Speaker 5: you go.
- 52:44Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about.
- 52:46Speaker 5: It's not uncommon to see red whiskers on mcmcmahon.
- 52:51Speaker 6: It's true.
- 52:52Speaker 5: So we can go to the next line. There we go. Okay,
- 52:55Speaker 5: so here's judas as you were saying, similarities between the
- 52:59Speaker 5: care of Odin and glues Cap. Each of them is
- 53:03Speaker 5: said to create man from ash tree and the ada
- 53:06Speaker 5: is Odin creates a woman out of elm. I think
- 53:12Speaker 5: they were without senses until they were endowed by the creator.
- 53:17Speaker 5: Odin has two ravens as messengers glues Cap has two loons,
- 53:22Speaker 5: Odin has two wolves as companions. Glues Cap has two dogs.
- 53:27Speaker 5: Odin is present at the final battle of Ragnarok, and
- 53:31Speaker 5: glues Cap based final at the last battle with Malsum.
- 53:34Speaker 5: They each created the dwarves and all the creatures, and
- 53:38Speaker 5: at the end they are accompanied by the giant sea
- 53:41Speaker 5: serpent at the final battle. And you can see similarities
- 53:46Speaker 5: in the symbols as well. So the center one is
- 53:51Speaker 5: the solar cross for the Norse, and on the right
- 53:55Speaker 5: side we have in the center the medicine wheel. Bottom
- 53:59Speaker 5: is each depiction of the eight pointed star, kind of
- 54:04Speaker 5: a variation of the Norse one.
- 54:06Speaker 6: And at the top left is the what do you
- 54:12Speaker 6: call them? The ruins, So this is how.
- 54:15Speaker 5: They show. You get the ruins from the eight pointed star,
- 54:20Speaker 5: which is a mack mac symbol. So the Norse ruins
- 54:23Speaker 5: come from the eight pointed star. Kind of no, I
- 54:28Speaker 5: don't do you.
- 54:33Speaker 3: You did mentioned earlier that they might sometimes there were wolves.
- 54:37Speaker 5: In some the legends they call they call them wolves,
- 54:41Speaker 5: so there's a lot of wolf the symbology to which
- 54:43Speaker 5: I think is very Viking. They're the sons of Wolf, right,
- 54:46Speaker 5: the sons of the wolf, and so Malsam is known
- 54:49Speaker 5: as the wolf.
- 54:52Speaker 6: He has sometimes two wolves at his side.
- 54:56Speaker 5: It's I find it convincing an interesting.
- 55:02Speaker 2: Yeah, well you also have to like sometimes like this
- 55:06Speaker 2: is how I would put it into context, like, uh,
- 55:11Speaker 2: maybe a little loans I'm just taking a guess might
- 55:14Speaker 2: have been more common to see than ravens. So they
- 55:16Speaker 2: just attributed to whatever was around them that they could
- 55:19Speaker 2: use and see.
- 55:20Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So sometimes I wonder if
- 55:22Speaker 1: that's even the difference.
- 55:23Speaker 2: It is just they are recapping it, but they're just
- 55:25Speaker 2: going to use things that you know, they're equivalent.
- 55:30Speaker 5: We find well, I mean the solar symbol is is
- 55:33Speaker 5: and it goes back as far as as time. So
- 55:37Speaker 5: I think every culture has a solo cross or or
- 55:41Speaker 5: that you know that symbol the circle and the cross.
- 55:48Speaker 4: And we did find out yesterday that the Canadians do
- 55:51Speaker 4: love the loans is. It is a popular It's not
- 55:54Speaker 4: popular as popular down here, uh in the US, but
- 55:59Speaker 4: I know it's popular in Canada as well.
- 56:01Speaker 1: This is another reason the Yeah, it's another reason why
- 56:04Speaker 1: I even thought, I'm like, well, the loon is probably
- 56:06Speaker 1: more normal to see over there than ravens.
- 56:08Speaker 6: Maybe yeah, yeah, Ravens.
- 56:10Speaker 5: Well, there are some, but they're most more of a
- 56:12Speaker 5: western bird, like a western coast, but you do see
- 56:16Speaker 5: them occasionally.
- 56:19Speaker 1: So very interesting.
- 56:21Speaker 5: M So we can go to the next slide. Oh,
- 56:26Speaker 5: this is just a side by side of the cosmology.
- 56:29Speaker 5: So the left one is you see in the center
- 56:33Speaker 5: as mid guard you see the axis access in the
- 56:37Speaker 5: poles is the one on the right is the mickmax.
- 56:40Speaker 6: So they're they're quite similar.
- 56:42Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just.
- 56:49Speaker 5: Thought that was interesting. Another another parallel for sure. I
- 56:53Speaker 5: thought i'd just throw that in there. You can go
- 56:57Speaker 5: to the next So this shows. So the reason I
- 57:05Speaker 5: included this chariot card is because I do terot, and
- 57:12Speaker 5: so when I was doing the symbols for glues Cap,
- 57:17Speaker 5: I thought, where have I seen all of this before?
- 57:20Speaker 5: So I took out my tarot cards and I was like, huh, well,
- 57:24Speaker 5: there's two sphinxes. Oh, and his dogs are usually a
- 57:27Speaker 5: black and a white glues caps. So when I saw
- 57:30Speaker 5: the chariot card with the black and white sphinx on
- 57:35Speaker 5: his chest, he has an eight pointed star, he wears
- 57:40Speaker 5: a crown of stars, and he's a canopy of stars
- 57:43Speaker 5: above his head. He holds a magic wand and he
- 57:47Speaker 5: has a belt, so glues Cap also has a magic belt.
- 57:51Speaker 5: And I don't know if you're familiar with the Crowley
- 57:56Speaker 5: deck the Thoat deck, so that's the one in the
- 57:59Speaker 5: middle there, and he's usually shown depicting in this one
- 58:03Speaker 5: what's referred to as the Holy Grail, and that kind
- 58:07Speaker 5: of gets into the later part of the presentation. But
- 58:10Speaker 5: I thought that was interesting that the archetypes are kind
- 58:14Speaker 5: of the same. You see the same symbols appear over
- 58:20Speaker 5: and over again. So that's why I put that there.
- 58:23Speaker 5: I'm not saying it means anything. I'm just saying I
- 58:25Speaker 5: noticed a lot of symbols. So yeah, we can go
- 58:35Speaker 5: to the next line. So the north from the vikings
- 58:39Speaker 5: in America is becoming I think a more widely accepted theory.
- 58:44Speaker 5: I think archaeology maybe mainstream is losing its grip on
- 58:48Speaker 5: the narrative hopefully, so we're looking at also greenland settlements
- 58:56Speaker 5: and like I said, as far back as Minnesota, there's
- 58:58Speaker 5: a Kensington runestone and have a pretty big I think
- 59:02Speaker 5: heritage from Scandinavia. I'm not sure which country is exactly,
- 59:10Speaker 5: but you.
- 59:10Speaker 1: Know what I wanted to mention real quick.
- 59:12Speaker 2: You mentioned it earlier, and now when you just said
- 59:14Speaker 2: it again, the Kensington ronstone. This is really interesting because
- 59:18Speaker 2: I think did you mention Knights Templars earlier? Yeah, Scott
- 59:23Speaker 2: Walter from the Knights Templars supposedly, and I saw him
- 59:26Speaker 2: say this live in front of my face. They deciphered
- 59:29Speaker 2: this tablet and supposedly have found the bones of Mary
- 59:35Speaker 2: Jesus and one of the arcs. I saw that that
- 59:40Speaker 2: he's a Knights Templar.
- 59:42Speaker 1: He's open about that.
- 59:43Speaker 5: I know. Well, actually a lot of this Kensington rohnestone
- 59:47Speaker 5: is attached to Scott Walter, like he's probably the if
- 59:51Speaker 5: you look up these kind of things, you're going to
- 59:54Speaker 5: come across Cart Walter. He's probably the biggest supporter of
- 59:58Speaker 5: this theory. And he's a he's an actual like forensic geologist.
- 1:00:04Speaker 5: I think.
- 1:00:06Speaker 1: Something.
- 1:00:07Speaker 2: Actually I met that guy and walked to Mount Pilot
- 1:00:09Speaker 2: with him. Oh yeah, yeah, in North Carolina.
- 1:00:13Speaker 5: You have him on your show.
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: I've actually tried to.
- 1:00:15Speaker 2: I mean, he said he would, but then the guy
- 1:00:17Speaker 2: never answered me even followed me on Twitter.
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: I should hit him up again. Maybe, actually, I don't know,
- 1:00:23Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah.
- 1:00:24Speaker 5: There's always something new coming out.
- 1:00:25Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Well that's another thing too.
- 1:00:27Speaker 2: I mean, the guy's filming shit, so he's pretty busy,
- 1:00:30Speaker 2: and I'll just keep it real like on a podcast.
- 1:00:32Speaker 1: I'm sure he wants to go on a bigger show
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: than Morning.
- 1:00:40Speaker 5: See. So yeah, the Vikings were called, I said earlier,
- 1:00:43Speaker 5: the sons of Wolf or the Wolves of the Seas. Yeah,
- 1:00:50Speaker 5: and the show is that the map there just shows
- 1:00:52Speaker 5: their their trajectories. They were well well known to sail
- 1:00:58Speaker 5: those seas, often in their classic serpent ships.
- 1:01:04Speaker 4: It would be, uh, it would be fitting for them
- 1:01:08Speaker 4: to be called wolves of the sea because till this day,
- 1:01:10Speaker 4: those those routes are not the kindest.
- 1:01:15Speaker 3: It's supposed to be the roughest seas. So the fact
- 1:01:18Speaker 3: that they.
- 1:01:21Speaker 6: There is the what do you call that?
- 1:01:24Speaker 5: The way the do you just follow the currents? There's
- 1:01:31Speaker 5: there's some way to follow some currents, I think, But
- 1:01:37Speaker 5: I don't know.
- 1:01:42Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
- 1:01:43Speaker 4: Do the Do the Macawic have like stories of the
- 1:01:48Speaker 4: actual vikings of like them in the past and how
- 1:01:52Speaker 4: they interacted in the meeting and the exchanges between the two.
- 1:01:57Speaker 5: Not not from my knowledge. No, I haven't heard any
- 1:02:02Speaker 5: like like legends and stories about the No, I haven't
- 1:02:08Speaker 5: m hmm. I'm not saying there isn't. I'm just saying
- 1:02:13Speaker 5: I'm not aware of any.
- 1:02:18Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm pretty sure that they regardless.
- 1:02:22Speaker 5: Yeah, it'd be interesting to look into the DNA because
- 1:02:27Speaker 5: I know, like I know, there's trade there's DNA in
- 1:02:30Speaker 5: in Europe from mcmac people that were brought over like uh,
- 1:02:36Speaker 5: they were intermarried and and went to Europe and some
- 1:02:39Speaker 5: were presented to court and all kinds of things. So
- 1:02:42Speaker 5: there's lots of stories of micmacs going to Europe. And
- 1:02:45Speaker 5: I'd like to see, like where's the blood found, because
- 1:02:48Speaker 5: we know the Mormons claim mcmac blood, So I'd like
- 1:02:51Speaker 5: to see where where that has spread to. I wonder
- 1:02:55Speaker 5: if there's a comprehensive study going on.
- 1:02:59Speaker 2: Oh you know, that was another reason why I was
- 1:03:00Speaker 2: very interested in the macmac And you did say that
- 1:03:02Speaker 2: at the beginning, and I should have mentioned I totally
- 1:03:04Speaker 2: for guys the whole Mormon thing too.
- 1:03:05Speaker 1: I find that very interesting how they tell you.
- 1:03:09Speaker 5: Yeah, that blew my mind because I like the mcmac
- 1:03:12Speaker 5: stuff is I know, my whole life, but this part
- 1:03:17Speaker 5: of the presentation I didn't know anything about, and the
- 1:03:20Speaker 5: Mormon stuff I didn't know anything about until I had
- 1:03:23Speaker 5: heard Heidi Love talking about it, and when she started
- 1:03:26Speaker 5: talking about the language and the bloodlines, and I was like,
- 1:03:32Speaker 5: wait a minute, what is she talking about? How does
- 1:03:34Speaker 5: that even happen? I'd never heard of it. So we're
- 1:03:39Speaker 5: going to talk about.
- 1:03:39Speaker 6: That a little later.
- 1:03:40Speaker 1: Maybe nice, So we can go to.
- 1:03:45Speaker 5: The next slide. Now we get to Acadia. The Acadians.
- 1:03:54Speaker 5: They're the seventeenth century French settlers from western France known
- 1:04:00Speaker 5: as Bretagne. The Acadian flag there freatures the French flag
- 1:04:05Speaker 5: with the addition of the yellow star, also a five
- 1:04:10Speaker 5: pointed star. The name of the flag is the Star
- 1:04:15Speaker 5: of the Sea.
- 1:04:16Speaker 6: It's called Stella Maurice.
- 1:04:19Speaker 5: The patron saint of Acadians is Our Lady of Assumption,
- 1:04:21Speaker 5: the Blessed Virgin Mary, and the national anthem is Ave Maria.
- 1:04:26Speaker 5: Stella's Marian him notice a pattern. So they were deported
- 1:04:33Speaker 5: in seventeen fifty five, eventually landing in Louisiana. They weren't
- 1:04:37Speaker 5: deported to Louisiana, but they eventually made their way there
- 1:04:42Speaker 5: and became the Cajuns. So, hey, cousins. I wanted to
- 1:04:50Speaker 5: mention a few things about this. This Acadian flag and
- 1:04:58Speaker 5: the word so stella marius, it means the star of
- 1:05:02Speaker 5: the c. In French. The French word for c is
- 1:05:07Speaker 5: map m e r. The French word for mother is
- 1:05:11Speaker 5: also map m e r e, So if you were
- 1:05:15Speaker 5: to say it, it sounds the same, but there's spelled different.
- 1:05:18Speaker 5: So it could also be the star of the Mother.
- 1:05:23Speaker 5: And then you might think, I would think like ish
- 1:05:25Speaker 5: star or the holy Mother or the divine feminine. So
- 1:05:28Speaker 5: I had thought perhaps maybe there's some reason the Acadians
- 1:05:36Speaker 5: came to the New World. Maybe they were hiding a
- 1:05:40Speaker 5: secret to or there were some whispers that they might
- 1:05:45Speaker 5: be left over Cathars, which is a whole nother rabbit hole. Yeah,
- 1:05:53Speaker 5: so I just thought they were They were fun, little
- 1:05:56Speaker 5: little facts. Oh and I wanted to mention.
- 1:05:59Speaker 6: Some called the fi duvois.
- 1:06:03Speaker 5: So there were about eight hundred girls that were sent
- 1:06:07Speaker 5: to New France by King Louis the fourteenth with a
- 1:06:11Speaker 5: dowry paid by him to marry all the French men
- 1:06:14Speaker 5: that had been settling here without any lady friendship. So
- 1:06:20Speaker 5: they were usually poor, uneducated women, each twelve to twenty five,
- 1:06:26Speaker 5: and modern day descendants of these girls include Hillary Clinton, Madonna,
- 1:06:32Speaker 5: and Angelina Jolie. So that's just a fun fair.
- 1:06:38Speaker 8: Another rabbit hole to go down, right, Yeah, Well, it
- 1:06:42Speaker 8: seems like it's so strange how connected France is to everything,
- 1:06:49Speaker 8: whether you're looking at Cathars or Templars, or Acadians, or
- 1:06:53Speaker 8: even the origin of like, for instance, the Sainclair clan.
- 1:06:58Speaker 6: The talk about that a little later.
- 1:07:01Speaker 5: So it's it's so central to everything that's happening throughout
- 1:07:06Speaker 5: history here.
- 1:07:07Speaker 6: It affects everything that happens here.
- 1:07:10Speaker 5: I somehow have.
- 1:07:11Speaker 1: More of an influence than people realize.
- 1:07:14Speaker 5: I agree, and I think Quebec here in Canada still
- 1:07:18Speaker 5: sends boat loads and money to France all the time.
- 1:07:23Speaker 6: That's their arrangement.
- 1:07:25Speaker 4: That's why they remember that it wasn't just the British
- 1:07:31Speaker 4: that colonized the North America. The French was side by
- 1:07:36Speaker 4: side with them, yes, and had just as much territory
- 1:07:40Speaker 4: act if not more than the original British.
- 1:07:44Speaker 5: Well what happened here in Acadia too is because of
- 1:07:47Speaker 5: these long term relationships between the Akkadian and the Micmac.
- 1:07:52Speaker 5: They were allies, that was a team against the British.
- 1:07:56Speaker 5: They could not they could not defeat the Micmac if
- 1:08:00Speaker 5: they were They're going to fight for each other. So
- 1:08:03Speaker 5: the British deported the French and weakened the micmac and
- 1:08:08Speaker 5: one mm.
- 1:08:12Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want I don't want to like jump
- 1:08:17Speaker 2: too far with like a stretch. But even thinking of
- 1:08:20Speaker 2: New Wheat earlier, I mean that would be another female
- 1:08:22Speaker 2: deity associated with stars.
- 1:08:25Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, Well, the first thing that came to
- 1:08:29Speaker 5: mind when I was doing this wordplay with the star
- 1:08:31Speaker 5: and the sea and the Mother was Ishar. Kept coming
- 1:08:34Speaker 5: to my mind because the star of Ishtar the star
- 1:08:37Speaker 5: of the mother. Anyways, that's just my association, but it's
- 1:08:41Speaker 5: very it's very sort of divine, feminine, you know.
- 1:08:47Speaker 6: Marian blessed Virgin.
- 1:08:48Speaker 5: It's very there's a thief, you know, but they're very Catholic.
- 1:08:54Speaker 2: Yeah, Judith, Now, isn't the it's not like a secret thing.
- 1:08:59Speaker 2: I mean I think you can even find it online.
- 1:09:02Speaker 2: The inside temple like the oto, it has like the
- 1:09:04Speaker 2: five pointed star on the ceiling and then like the
- 1:09:06Speaker 2: dark black purple ceiling with it, right, Like, isn't that
- 1:09:10Speaker 2: how it's depicted?
- 1:09:12Speaker 1: Kind of.
- 1:09:14Speaker 3: I'm an old lady, I'm trying to remember.
- 1:09:16Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:09:17Speaker 2: Well, the reason I'm even bringing that up is that
- 1:09:19Speaker 2: when I noticed when I went to the Sistine Chapel
- 1:09:22Speaker 2: before they painted, he painted that whole ceiling thing. That's
- 1:09:26Speaker 2: what it looked like as well before he painted over.
- 1:09:30Speaker 2: So it just is, uh, you know, it's like kind
- 1:09:32Speaker 2: of a dark blue thing. So like I'm just wondering,
- 1:09:35Speaker 2: like is there even a connection with like so like
- 1:09:39Speaker 2: even like I kind of Virgin Mary or this type
- 1:09:43Speaker 2: of shit with the ceiling inside the oto.
- 1:09:49Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very weird.
- 1:09:50Speaker 2: I mean because you know, Crowley does even say that
- 1:09:53Speaker 2: he based the mass off of uh Russian Orthodox Catholicism.
- 1:10:00Speaker 5: Isn't it also the sign for Venus the five pointed.
- 1:10:03Speaker 2: Store or no, I think it would be seven, but
- 1:10:08Speaker 2: I might be five. Okay, five would well have to explain.
- 1:10:12Speaker 2: I don't want to get into it. But you know
- 1:10:14Speaker 2: the seventh sphere, which would be Venus where does have
- 1:10:16Speaker 2: a relationship with the fifths.
- 1:10:17Speaker 1: Here in the tree?
- 1:10:19Speaker 5: Okay?
- 1:10:21Speaker 1: So yeah, sorry about that whole rant. We're trying to
- 1:10:24Speaker 1: get some kind of point out of that.
- 1:10:26Speaker 5: Yeah, no, you're good.
- 1:10:27Speaker 4: Well, well I think you were trying to put the
- 1:10:30Speaker 4: sum in larities together.
- 1:10:33Speaker 1: Like that. Yeah, it is kind of like that.
- 1:10:36Speaker 4: It is through it's throughout the North America and Europe.
- 1:10:41Speaker 4: Basically we basically we share that history, and I think
- 1:10:45Speaker 4: it's more surprising.
- 1:10:51Speaker 2: Yeah, old old world. Mick Mac says, the star is
- 1:10:54Speaker 2: the Mac hieroglyph for heaven.
- 1:10:57Speaker 3: I think it has.
- 1:11:00Speaker 5: Dome on top.
- 1:11:01Speaker 1: Two.
- 1:11:02Speaker 5: I think I have slides of this coming up too,
- 1:11:05Speaker 5: showing that the heaven. Yeah, the hieroglyphs. So next comes
- 1:11:10Speaker 5: secret society, the Grand Medicine Society called the madea Win
- 1:11:16Speaker 5: so the maday Win or an organization of traditional spiritualists
- 1:11:20Speaker 5: and healers, practitioners of magic, keepers of sacred knowledge. They
- 1:11:25Speaker 5: perform ceremonies in the lodges, they create their medicine bags,
- 1:11:30Speaker 5: They learn dances in the use of water drum. It's
- 1:11:34Speaker 5: a structured society with learning including degrees and initiations. Initiates
- 1:11:41Speaker 5: and pledges are guided by the Midday which are the leaders.
- 1:11:45Speaker 5: And teachings are still kept on birth bark scrolls like
- 1:11:49Speaker 5: I said earlier, and also stones teaching stones.
- 1:11:54Speaker 6: The Meigas shell, which is that Cawie shell.
- 1:11:58Speaker 5: Is a sacred item used in initiationiations and ceremonies. And
- 1:12:03Speaker 5: this is a shell that and initiate will be shot
- 1:12:08Speaker 5: with and it has to pierce the skin. It has
- 1:12:11Speaker 5: to pierce the flesh to be yeah. So yeah, and
- 1:12:16Speaker 5: then so they also participate in sweat launches and vision quests.
- 1:12:22Speaker 5: It may include like fasting and seasonal ceremonies. Yeah, they're
- 1:12:28Speaker 5: still around for real.
- 1:12:33Speaker 1: We can go.
- 1:12:36Speaker 5: We have mounds. We have a mount. So in New
- 1:12:40Speaker 5: Brunswick there's a discovery was made in the area known
- 1:12:45Speaker 5: as Metapanakia. Near the Oxbow bend of the Merrimachie River
- 1:12:52Speaker 5: is found what is known as the Augustine Mount discovered
- 1:12:55Speaker 5: in the late seventies by a local elder who was
- 1:12:58Speaker 5: reading an article in the National Geographic about an ancient
- 1:13:02Speaker 5: burial mound in Arizona. When he remembered the local mount.
- 1:13:06Speaker 5: He began to dig and immediately found artifacts like copper
- 1:13:09Speaker 5: beads and arrowheads. He also discovered a settlement a village
- 1:13:14Speaker 5: where the people had lived at the ox Boast site
- 1:13:17Speaker 5: dated at twenty five hundred years old. It's described as
- 1:13:22Speaker 5: an a Dina style mound from the Ohio River Valley.
- 1:13:27Speaker 5: It was excavated in the eighties and items found include
- 1:13:32Speaker 5: many copper beads and scrolls said to be from Lake Superior,
- 1:13:37Speaker 5: Ohio fireclay pipes, distinctive Adena type stone tools. Also of
- 1:13:44Speaker 5: note in the mound were numerous flakes of quartz crystal
- 1:13:50Speaker 5: Michigan copper, which is called float copper, has a unique
- 1:13:55Speaker 5: composition and is easily identified. Michigan copper has been found
- 1:13:59Speaker 5: as far as Manoa and on Phoenician coins. The amount
- 1:14:03Speaker 5: of ancient copper mind from the Great Lakes region is
- 1:14:07Speaker 5: still largely unaccounted for. It's designated a ceremonial burial mound
- 1:14:13Speaker 5: with objects found buried in the fetal position or subject
- 1:14:19Speaker 5: excuse me, found buried in the fetal position facing east
- 1:14:23Speaker 5: and wrapped in birch bark. They were surrounded with items
- 1:14:26Speaker 5: of significance such as pipes, tools, feathers.
- 1:14:30Speaker 6: And pelts.
- 1:14:33Speaker 5: And up to the nineties there used to be like
- 1:14:38Speaker 5: a tourist center.
- 1:14:41Speaker 6: Talking about the mound.
- 1:14:42Speaker 5: But I guess it's no longer no longer available, So yeah,
- 1:14:47Speaker 5: I thought that was.
- 1:14:48Speaker 3: Pretty cool the close.
- 1:14:49Speaker 5: Sorry, I think I think that's according to the website,
- 1:14:53Speaker 5: it's no longer in operation. I'm trying to see if
- 1:14:57Speaker 5: I can make a connection here or there to go
- 1:15:01Speaker 5: see it myself, because I've never been there, even though
- 1:15:04Speaker 5: it's like practically in my own backyard.
- 1:15:07Speaker 3: Hopefully someone will here see this and they're like, well,
- 1:15:09Speaker 3: maybe we'll send you an invite.
- 1:15:11Speaker 5: Come on, oder, Yeah, why not.
- 1:15:17Speaker 6: They can go to the next slide.
- 1:15:18Speaker 5: Nick, if you want.
- 1:15:20Speaker 1: This is interesting.
- 1:15:23Speaker 5: So then we get to the Phoenician trail. So the
- 1:15:29Speaker 5: Phoenician link cannot be ignored here. It's widely speculated that
- 1:15:33Speaker 5: the Phoenicians travel to North America in ancient times. They
- 1:15:38Speaker 5: were well known seafarers and navigators, and in particular to
- 1:15:41Speaker 5: the Great Lakes region to mine copper. Higher glyphs known
- 1:15:45Speaker 5: as the Dighton Rock in Massachusetts of unknown origin have
- 1:15:49Speaker 5: been said to possibly originate from the Phoenician or possibly Norse.
- 1:15:55Speaker 5: Modern DNA studies through genetic tracing in haplo groups contra,
- 1:16:00Speaker 5: you should claim that the Cherokee people are descendants of
- 1:16:03Speaker 5: the Phoenicians. Linguistic associations can also be made between the groups.
- 1:16:10Speaker 5: So those photographs, they're the one on the left is
- 1:16:14Speaker 5: called Hanukia Mound or a Menora mound in Ohio. So
- 1:16:23Speaker 5: this is looks like a menora or an oil lamp.
- 1:16:27Speaker 5: This no longer exists. This has been plowed over and
- 1:16:32Speaker 5: it's gone, but it's it's obviously Hebrew or Phoenician relic
- 1:16:40Speaker 5: or object. Then you get the bat Creek Stone, which
- 1:16:44Speaker 5: is a tablet found in this in Tennessee in a
- 1:16:48Speaker 5: Hopewell mound. At first thought to be Cherokee script, it
- 1:16:54Speaker 5: was later claimed to be Paleo Hebrew dismissed as a hoax,
- 1:16:58Speaker 5: but it's still held by the Smithsonian. And yeah, the
- 1:17:05Speaker 5: whole site is also now underwater. The one at the
- 1:17:11Speaker 5: top right is called the Diton Rock, so a glacial
- 1:17:17Speaker 5: boulder found in Berkeley, Massachusetts. It's referenced in sixteen ninety
- 1:17:25Speaker 5: by Cauthern Cotton Mathers of the Salem Witch Trials. Uh
- 1:17:31Speaker 5: in seventeen No, it doesn't matter. So, yeah, this is
- 1:17:37Speaker 5: another one of those Paleo Hebrew and Hebrew stones. At
- 1:17:42Speaker 5: the bottom is what's called the Cherokee syllabary, and it
- 1:17:48Speaker 5: showcases similarities between Paleo Hebrew and this Cherokee. And then
- 1:18:00Speaker 5: I showed a Phoenician boat because those are a lot
- 1:18:03Speaker 5: like the Viking boats a little bit. H So, yeah,
- 1:18:14Speaker 5: I've got like notes on tons of stones. I'm just
- 1:18:16Speaker 5: gonna skip them.
- 1:18:17Speaker 6: But there's like literally like buckets.
- 1:18:21Speaker 5: There's the what are they called the Michigan relics. If
- 1:18:26Speaker 5: you guys want to look into that, check out the
- 1:18:28Speaker 5: Michigan Relics.
- 1:18:29Speaker 6: There's about thirty thousand artifacts.
- 1:18:33Speaker 5: They depict biblical scenes.
- 1:18:37Speaker 6: Uh, they're tablets of.
- 1:18:40Speaker 5: Slate and copper, and they referenced Noah and King Sulomon
- 1:18:46Speaker 5: and stuff.
- 1:18:50Speaker 3: Do you know how far back the.
- 1:18:53Speaker 5: Dating? Yes, I think I think they said, I want
- 1:18:58Speaker 5: to say, three hundred eighty.
- 1:19:00Speaker 3: What don't quote me? H, that's that's very significant.
- 1:19:05Speaker 5: You might you might want to fact check me on that,
- 1:19:09Speaker 5: but that's what I think I saw. Yeah, that one
- 1:19:14Speaker 5: is a really significant one. And there's there's like literally
- 1:19:18Speaker 5: like tons. I have four pages of notes on all
- 1:19:22Speaker 5: kinds of stones and stuff. But yeah, any questions, okay.
- 1:19:32Speaker 5: So here it says, go to the jew of whom
- 1:19:38Speaker 5: the Lamanites or a remnant, that they may believe the
- 1:19:42Speaker 5: Gospel and look not for a messiah to come who
- 1:19:46Speaker 5: has already come. So this is from Book of Mormon.
- 1:19:49Speaker 2: I was gonna interrupt you and be like, don't the
- 1:19:51Speaker 2: Mormons believe in the Lamanites before I read the rest
- 1:19:54Speaker 2: of it.
- 1:19:54Speaker 5: Yeah, Now, I don't know any fight from a Lamanite, Like,
- 1:19:57Speaker 5: I don't know.
- 1:19:58Speaker 1: I don't know, but I do each other.
- 1:20:00Speaker 5: I think I do know they believe that the ancient
- 1:20:05Speaker 5: or the native tribes or remnants of the tribes of Israel.
- 1:20:11Speaker 5: And it's funny because here in in uh, New Brunswick,
- 1:20:15Speaker 5: I have often heard it's kind of like a whisper
- 1:20:19Speaker 5: and a half joke, but they throw it out there.
- 1:20:22Speaker 5: It's kind of like, you know, we're one of the
- 1:20:24Speaker 5: lost tribes or you know, you know they say we're
- 1:20:27Speaker 5: one of the lost tribes of Israel. So it's it's
- 1:20:29Speaker 5: not necessarily that they believe it. What it's there's an
- 1:20:32Speaker 5: awareness that in the collective somehow, if that makes sense.
- 1:20:37Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that is a I know, there's a lot
- 1:20:44Speaker 1: of weird stuff about the whole morning. Yeah, it's just
- 1:20:49Speaker 1: a lot of you know, even the whole thing with
- 1:20:51Speaker 1: Joseph Smith being uh, which the church admits on YouTube.
- 1:20:55Speaker 1: They even have like a three minute video that they
- 1:20:57Speaker 1: do admit he was a Freemason. You know.
- 1:21:00Speaker 2: I even had Cal Crusher on the show who got
- 1:21:02Speaker 2: married in in a you know, Mormon temple and he
- 1:21:07Speaker 2: saw the plane his day. Masonic symbolism as you start
- 1:21:12Speaker 2: getting father into the thing where you gotta start shaking
- 1:21:15Speaker 2: hands through fucking you know ship and he said literally yeahymbols, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:21:21Speaker 2: He says it's so wild. He says, if you didn't
- 1:21:23Speaker 2: know anything about it, you wouldn't you know. But it's
- 1:21:26Speaker 2: like right there in your face, that there's actually a
- 1:21:28Speaker 2: legiti Masonic symbolism in your face during your wedding.
- 1:21:31Speaker 5: Yeah. Well they say that Joseph Smith stole the Masonic
- 1:21:36Speaker 5: rituals and made the Mormon. I don't know, I'm not
- 1:21:39Speaker 5: a Mormon.
- 1:21:40Speaker 1: You know.
- 1:21:40Speaker 2: Then the thing is too, it's like what you showed earlier,
- 1:21:43Speaker 2: even when you were showing some of the stuff, there
- 1:21:44Speaker 2: was a g in.
- 1:21:45Speaker 1: Then like well, I mean fucking what.
- 1:21:48Speaker 5: Yeah, I know that to ask you about that picture? Yeah,
- 1:21:55Speaker 5: what does it mean? I don't know.
- 1:21:58Speaker 1: Very interesting, yeah, doc, you know, a lot of crossover
- 1:22:04Speaker 1: like all over the place.
- 1:22:05Speaker 5: Yes, but it's all late.
- 1:22:07Speaker 1: You see.
- 1:22:08Speaker 5: We have Mick Max and Norse and and Phoenicians and
- 1:22:12Speaker 5: they're they're not disconnected.
- 1:22:14Speaker 6: And the French always the French, you know.
- 1:22:16Speaker 2: Even Crowley I think had high regards for Joseph Smith.
- 1:22:22Speaker 2: And then there was a Lamanites and he did talking
- 1:22:26Speaker 2: lamb yeas a lot of weird share with that because
- 1:22:30Speaker 2: even uh, I think even the guy who scribed for
- 1:22:34Speaker 2: Joseph Smith was like Crowderm instead of Crowley.
- 1:22:37Speaker 1: It was like like one two letters. Oh yeah, so weird. Yeah,
- 1:22:42Speaker 1: you know.
- 1:22:42Speaker 2: And then then even the Metal massacre, there was the
- 1:22:45Speaker 2: Mountain Metal Massacre that the Mormons and some Indian tribes
- 1:22:48Speaker 2: had that that landed on between September ninth to the eleventh.
- 1:22:53Speaker 2: It's like so fucking weird something like these dates and stories,
- 1:22:57Speaker 2: Matts Math.
- 1:22:58Speaker 5: You know more about the dates since because it's.
- 1:23:01Speaker 1: So fucking weird.
- 1:23:04Speaker 5: I think it's all connected. That's what I think. I mean,
- 1:23:06Speaker 5: you know, nobody's got to believe what I believe. What
- 1:23:09Speaker 5: I believe, what I'm putting out here is connected. I
- 1:23:12Speaker 5: can't necessarily like show all the links, but I'm putting
- 1:23:16Speaker 5: the pieces together, and they all there's nodal points that
- 1:23:19Speaker 5: they all connect to m seven number seven. Again.
- 1:23:25Speaker 1: Interesting, yeah, a good point.
- 1:23:31Speaker 5: All right. Here we go with the Mormons again, so
- 1:23:34Speaker 5: the white.
- 1:23:35Speaker 2: You know, when some Mormons do believe quatsa Cootal and
- 1:23:37Speaker 2: Jesus Christ are the same thing. Sorry to go off again,
- 1:23:42Speaker 2: but there was even a time when we were covering
- 1:23:44Speaker 2: somehow when we covered Skinwalker ranch. We all of a
- 1:23:46Speaker 2: sudden we realized this is a long time ago when
- 1:23:48Speaker 2: I was podcasting with Looks that there was just Mormons.
- 1:23:52Speaker 1: All over the scene here with this whole Skinwalker ranch thing.
- 1:23:54Speaker 2: They really are you know when it comes to and ship,
- 1:23:57Speaker 2: They're fucking all over that stuff.
- 1:23:59Speaker 1: It's very weird.
- 1:24:00Speaker 6: They pop up everywhere.
- 1:24:01Speaker 2: Yeah, but I was looking into it because all of
- 1:24:04Speaker 2: a sudden, I was like, oh, what's how this is
- 1:24:06Speaker 2: the moment. So I really started looking into that shit,
- 1:24:08Speaker 2: and I even found it was like, you know how
- 1:24:11Speaker 2: like you call up like Liberty Travel to like you know,
- 1:24:14Speaker 2: like set up a kind of like a vacation for you.
- 1:24:17Speaker 2: There was like groups like that that were from Mormons
- 1:24:19Speaker 2: to go to Quatzicota, Uh, to go walk that.
- 1:24:22Speaker 1: Pyramid in chits Andita. Yeah, there was Mormans that would
- 1:24:25Speaker 1: go to that pyramid and go there because of quats
- 1:24:28Speaker 1: Cola and Gesus connection.
- 1:24:29Speaker 5: They're still linked to We'll take quite quattal today. I know,
- 1:24:34Speaker 5: it's wild.
- 1:24:35Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really weird and connected and twisted and.
- 1:24:40Speaker 6: The white gods all right.
- 1:24:42Speaker 5: So throughout all the Americas endured the claims that the
- 1:24:47Speaker 5: Native Americans were visited by white gods bearded, usually influencing
- 1:24:53Speaker 5: religions and culture. In the Emerald Tablets of Tho the Atlantean,
- 1:24:58Speaker 5: he described sending Atlanta and emissaries all over the world
- 1:25:02Speaker 5: to teach humanity and rebuild civilization. So the Mormons have
- 1:25:08Speaker 5: a particular affinity for the Mexican serpent god Catsaquatdal who's uh. Actually,
- 1:25:15Speaker 5: when Cortes arrived, they thought him the reincarnation of cts
- 1:25:19Speaker 5: Aquattle too, because of his his whiteness and his beardness uh.
- 1:25:24Speaker 5: And also glues Cap or Sinclair rather, which I'll talk
- 1:25:29Speaker 5: about in a bit, was also thought to be there
- 1:25:31Speaker 5: the return of the blues Cap. They're often bearded and
- 1:25:36Speaker 5: blue eyed tall men. There's Viracocha in the Incan tradition,
- 1:25:44Speaker 5: is called the Old Man of the Sky, the ancient One,
- 1:25:48Speaker 5: the bearded.
- 1:25:48Speaker 6: And white teacher of Creator.
- 1:25:53Speaker 5: So pretze Quatto is associated with Venus, the morning star, Lucifer,
- 1:25:57Speaker 5: divine feminine uh on merchants and knowledge, and the sun.
- 1:26:04Speaker 5: So among the beliefs of the Mormon is that the
- 1:26:07Speaker 5: god cats a Quattle was Jesus, like Nick said, quote
- 1:26:11Speaker 5: the story of the life of the Mexican divinity Keats
- 1:26:14Speaker 5: a Quattle closely resembles that of the Savior, so closely indeed,
- 1:26:18Speaker 5: that we can come to no other conclusion that the
- 1:26:21Speaker 5: quetz Quattle and Christ are the same being. That's from
- 1:26:24Speaker 5: the Church of Latter day Saints Church President.
- 1:26:32Speaker 1: Very interesting connections and just.
- 1:26:38Speaker 5: So yeah, it turns out maybe the Mormons have the
- 1:26:40Speaker 5: truest version of history in America's after all.
- 1:26:46Speaker 6: Yeah, you can go to the next life.
- 1:26:49Speaker 5: So here we're getting into the language. And so this
- 1:26:53Speaker 5: is what Joseph Smith is said to have used to
- 1:26:58Speaker 5: decipher the tablets or the plates. That yellow piece of
- 1:27:02Speaker 5: paper there on the top right is uh. It's called
- 1:27:07Speaker 5: uh uh Reformed Egyptian. And so if you look at
- 1:27:13Speaker 5: the on the left, it shows a reformed Egyptian and
- 1:27:17Speaker 5: the mickmac and they're very very similar. There's a lot
- 1:27:22Speaker 5: of identical symbols. They call it knee fighte here, but
- 1:27:26Speaker 5: it's known as uh. Yeah. There it is so and
- 1:27:32Speaker 5: the bottom picture is Joseph Smith scrying in his hat
- 1:27:38Speaker 5: with I guess that would be cow cowdry cowgary.
- 1:27:42Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, it sounds so much like somebody else.
- 1:27:51Speaker 5: Well, I just thought it was really interesting that the
- 1:27:54Speaker 5: same letters, it's the same yeah, similarities are.
- 1:27:59Speaker 1: You know where the.
- 1:28:00Speaker 2: Smith put a lien on the church for like Egyptian
- 1:28:02Speaker 2: artifacts at one point too, he was so bigger than
- 1:28:05Speaker 2: the artifacts, he put a lien on the own in
- 1:28:07Speaker 2: his own church.
- 1:28:10Speaker 5: You know what's wild was the mummies too, wasn't wasn't
- 1:28:12Speaker 5: he buying mummies and all these papyrus and all all
- 1:28:17Speaker 5: about the Egyptian stuff.
- 1:28:19Speaker 2: And Oh, you know what's really interesting for people that
- 1:28:21Speaker 2: might be hearing us, like talking about the moments like
- 1:28:23Speaker 2: the first time we didn't know that we've covered him
- 1:28:25Speaker 2: in the past. Something that's like really interesting. That just
- 1:28:28Speaker 2: really confirms the whole craziness with all this shit going on.
- 1:28:31Speaker 2: There was a guy we had on Justin I don't
- 1:28:32Speaker 2: know if you ever saw it. It was a long
- 1:28:34Speaker 2: time ago. It was me, Justin and and Lisa had
- 1:28:37Speaker 2: We had him on he showed I mean it was.
- 1:28:40Speaker 5: Without it with the Rotary Club.
- 1:28:43Speaker 2: Yeah, how he connected them to the Mormons, Mormon Church
- 1:28:46Speaker 2: throughout the Rotary Club.
- 1:28:48Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:28:49Speaker 2: The crazy thing, yeah, is that I had told him
- 1:28:51Speaker 2: I was like, yo, for some reason, there was something
- 1:28:53Speaker 2: where I found like the Rotary Club was like kind
- 1:28:55Speaker 2: of shady with like my opinion, some of the Smiley Faith.
- 1:29:00Speaker 2: He's killings in Austin and something to do with Gilgo.
- 1:29:03Speaker 2: It just seems like it's too convenient that they happen
- 1:29:05Speaker 2: to pop up and they have boats, you know. So
- 1:29:09Speaker 2: somehow I something like with a Morning connection. I thought
- 1:29:12Speaker 2: there might have been, and I told him I was like, Yo,
- 1:29:14Speaker 2: look into the Rotary Club. I have a feeling there's
- 1:29:16Speaker 2: something weird that yo. And he was like, dude, what
- 1:29:19Speaker 2: the fuck? He was blown away. I guess I was.
- 1:29:22Speaker 2: I was on something there, and he ended up coming
- 1:29:23Speaker 2: on the show showing how there's a total fucking CIA connection.
- 1:29:27Speaker 2: They pulled the church that I got a bankruptcy. Basically,
- 1:29:30Speaker 2: it's fucking insane. So I mean there's I mean, something's
- 1:29:34Speaker 2: already weird with them to begin with.
- 1:29:35Speaker 5: Now they're everywhere throughout history too. Though. The next line,
- 1:29:51Speaker 5: all right, and this is on the left. Oh you
- 1:29:55Speaker 5: can't really see it. Uh Old World was talking about
- 1:29:58Speaker 5: the world the word for heaven, and it's on it
- 1:30:01Speaker 5: shows it on one of those.
- 1:30:04Speaker 6: Those boxes, but it's too small to see.
- 1:30:07Speaker 5: So that's just another sheet from the Mormons showing the
- 1:30:10Speaker 5: papyri and the alphabet, and this tablet on the left
- 1:30:15Speaker 5: is one of these Michigan stones, Michigan relics, and so
- 1:30:22Speaker 5: it depicts. So you see at the top left there's
- 1:30:26Speaker 5: it looks like three letters. It's like a kune form.
- 1:30:32Speaker 5: It looks like I H and a wonky I. Above
- 1:30:37Speaker 5: the actual symbol of the eye, there's three symbols called
- 1:30:41Speaker 5: the mystic symbol, and it's said to be a kune
- 1:30:45Speaker 5: form version of yodey VAP. So yeah, and these all
- 1:30:53Speaker 5: the symbols are. They're a combination of Egyptian and Hebrew
- 1:30:58Speaker 5: and Greek even and they have images of biblical scenes
- 1:31:07Speaker 5: usually thirty thousand relics. So yeah, you can go to
- 1:31:15Speaker 5: the next one. All right.
- 1:31:21Speaker 6: So the Micmac language is.
- 1:31:23Speaker 5: Illustrated by higher glyphs, petroglyphs, and mnemonic devices. So like
- 1:31:28Speaker 5: the turtle shell we talked about earlier, it would be
- 1:31:30Speaker 5: one of those. The wampom belts is another one. So
- 1:31:34Speaker 5: there's stories woven into the wampom so they when they
- 1:31:38Speaker 5: recount the stories or the legends, they use the object
- 1:31:40Speaker 5: to tell the story. There are striking similarities between the
- 1:31:45Speaker 5: Micmac language and what is known as Reformed Egyptian, which
- 1:31:48Speaker 5: is also the language used by the founder of the
- 1:31:51Speaker 5: Church of Jesus Christ and Latter day Saints while he
- 1:31:54Speaker 5: was translating the Golden Plates and was sent that the
- 1:31:57Speaker 5: language he used by the ancient inhabitants he called the Nephites.
- 1:32:04Speaker 5: Early settlers and explorers soon began to study and translate
- 1:32:07Speaker 5: the language. French, Jesuit missionaries and Catholic priests were interested
- 1:32:12Speaker 5: in recording and translating the language, especially prayers. They developed
- 1:32:19Speaker 5: a system of symbols to represent the Micmac language, allegedly
- 1:32:23Speaker 5: refining and adapting already existing hieroglyphs. The Jesuits wrote many
- 1:32:28Speaker 5: journals and records chronicling daily life of Micmac and culture
- 1:32:33Speaker 5: through the massive Jesuit Relations and Allied Documents collection, and
- 1:32:38Speaker 5: they're largely the source of early post contact. So oh
- 1:32:47Speaker 5: there it is, okay. So the one on the left
- 1:32:49Speaker 5: is just random symbols. I don't have a translation for it,
- 1:32:53Speaker 5: and they're the ancient Egyptian and Micmac simbol. There's the
- 1:33:00Speaker 5: for Heaven like Old World was saying. The next one
- 1:33:06Speaker 5: is the Loure's prayer in MCMC higher glyphs, and the
- 1:33:12Speaker 5: the last image is the cover of what's called the
- 1:33:15Speaker 5: Cowder Bible and it's all translated in mcmc higher glyphs.
- 1:33:19Speaker 1: Yeah. That even has the upside down pentagram in there.
- 1:33:23Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, see the heaven for them, the ancient Egyptian has,
- 1:33:29Speaker 5: like I don't know, a dome or something on top. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,
- 1:33:42Speaker 5: So there's a.
- 1:33:44Speaker 1: Some we don't touch on that last one. I don't think.
- 1:33:47Speaker 5: I'm sorry, Yeah, go ahead, you did.
- 1:33:49Speaker 4: I'm kind of curious. Okay, I could get the noise crossover,
- 1:33:55Speaker 4: I can get the French crossover. How did they get
- 1:33:59Speaker 4: the Egyptian crossover, because that's crossed over.
- 1:34:06Speaker 1: Maybe they're here, well, you know, that could even go
- 1:34:09Speaker 1: through the Freemason Yeah, because and then I would even
- 1:34:14Speaker 1: probably attribute to the French because there was a lot
- 1:34:18Speaker 1: of them who came over that like that formed the
- 1:34:22Speaker 1: Order of Cincinnatis in the United States. Yes, there was
- 1:34:26Speaker 1: a lot of fun.
- 1:34:27Speaker 6: Yes, and that's that's associated to France.
- 1:34:29Speaker 1: Too, and there were free men, a lot of them
- 1:34:31Speaker 1: are Freemasons, the French ending.
- 1:34:33Speaker 5: Yeah, huh, that does have a French chapter, if I'm right.
- 1:34:39Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it does.
- 1:34:42Speaker 6: Napoleon Napoleon's General, I think.
- 1:34:45Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing that I had thought about looking
- 1:34:49Speaker 1: into at one point. Because yeah, like we've covered it
- 1:34:52Speaker 1: on the show, I think a few times, but like
- 1:34:55Speaker 1: I had stuff one of the times to even go
- 1:34:56Speaker 1: into the French part, but I just know it did.
- 1:34:58Speaker 1: But it is interesting how there's a just a French
- 1:35:01Speaker 1: friendship part of it doesn't seem to really get talked
- 1:35:03Speaker 1: about too much.
- 1:35:04Speaker 5: Well, don't forget too that if you believe in the
- 1:35:08Speaker 5: Holy Blood, Holy Grail lore that Jesus and Mary and
- 1:35:14Speaker 5: Mackalene were said to have gone where the south of France.
- 1:35:20Speaker 5: So all of this this, for me, it's another link
- 1:35:24Speaker 5: because you get all of this secrecy around around something
- 1:35:31Speaker 5: and it's it's very sort of divine, feminine.
- 1:35:34Speaker 6: We get all this mother symbology.
- 1:35:38Speaker 1: I don't know, it's curious, it's interesting.
- 1:35:44Speaker 5: I'm going to get into the templars next.
- 1:35:46Speaker 1: Actually, all right, did you go on the next leg?
- 1:35:50Speaker 4: Oh?
- 1:35:50Speaker 5: Actually, I have the wampum belts. I'll just show that
- 1:35:53Speaker 5: one real quick, because I don't know if everybody knows
- 1:35:54Speaker 5: what that is. So these are our ancient records. Original
- 1:36:03Speaker 5: treaties were made on wampum belts too, And so if
- 1:36:08Speaker 5: you see on the bottom there that shell, that's what
- 1:36:10Speaker 5: they make. That the beads out of and there's a
- 1:36:14Speaker 5: really intense purple color that comes from that shell, and
- 1:36:17Speaker 5: it's a really hard shell. So there's stories told through these,
- 1:36:22Speaker 5: there's genealogy, there's all kinds of information kept on these
- 1:36:26Speaker 5: wampum records. So I just thought it'd be fun to
- 1:36:28Speaker 5: show examples of those.
- 1:36:32Speaker 1: I'm pretty cool. All right, here we go the templates.
- 1:36:37Speaker 5: Uh, here we go, all right. Templar is abroad. So
- 1:36:43Speaker 5: the original Order of the Knights Templar was formerly known
- 1:36:48Speaker 5: as the Poor Fellow Soldiers of Christ and the Temple
- 1:36:52Speaker 5: of Solomon, and was founded by Hudepoian, the first Grand Master,
- 1:36:57Speaker 5: and nine other French knights. They perform major excavations in Jerusalem.
- 1:37:02Speaker 5: They made a vow to promise chastity, obedience, and poverty,
- 1:37:07Speaker 5: and were known to hold all property in common. Among
- 1:37:11Speaker 5: the men who marched into Jerusalem alongside you, Payan was
- 1:37:15Speaker 5: Ari Saint Clair, married Henry Saint Clair's niece and was
- 1:37:21Speaker 5: given land in Scotland as a dowry. So there we
- 1:37:27Speaker 5: see the symbol, of course of the Tamplars, which is
- 1:37:29Speaker 5: that red cross. Yeah, so this gets into the Holy Blood,
- 1:37:37Speaker 5: Holy Grail mythology, and I know, not everybody kind of
- 1:37:43Speaker 5: follows that. But I started when I read, you know,
- 1:37:46Speaker 5: obviously the the Dan Brown books, and then I got
- 1:37:50Speaker 5: into all the other books, and I'm not it's not
- 1:37:55Speaker 5: a no for me because there's a lot of a
- 1:37:57Speaker 5: lot of evidence that supports that they have.
- 1:38:01Speaker 6: They came here for something.
- 1:38:03Speaker 1: Oh there's there was. I mean I think at this
- 1:38:07Speaker 1: point it might maybe it's not. I thought it was
- 1:38:11Speaker 1: like kind of like taken as like historically true that
- 1:38:13Speaker 1: there is a there's like buildings, the things that were
- 1:38:16Speaker 1: built here before Columbus that has their keystone and their
- 1:38:20Speaker 1: fucking ship right on it, like well that snature, the
- 1:38:23Speaker 1: signatures are on the stone.
- 1:38:25Speaker 6: What is that tower the I have? I have a
- 1:38:29Speaker 6: flight of it coming up.
- 1:38:29Speaker 5: But yeah, but there's the tower we're talking about. Maybe
- 1:38:36Speaker 5: not it's a building.
- 1:38:40Speaker 4: Uh, it's a lighthouse, I think, didn't it is it
- 1:38:44Speaker 4: supposed to be a lighthouse?
- 1:38:45Speaker 3: Of course, I'm not.
- 1:38:46Speaker 5: Certain what what it was. I don't have a circular,
- 1:38:49Speaker 5: circular building and to build these circle churches, so yeah,
- 1:38:54Speaker 5: I'll get into that. I have a slide for that
- 1:38:55Speaker 5: coming up to. Yeah, you can go to the next slie.
- 1:39:00Speaker 5: So of course this is associated with roseland Chapel, so
- 1:39:06Speaker 5: that was made famous by the books such as the
- 1:39:10Speaker 5: Da Vinci Code and Holy Blood. Holy Grail. Near Edinburgh
- 1:39:14Speaker 5: is the village of Rosslyn where we find Rosslyn Chapel,
- 1:39:18Speaker 5: built between fourteen forty.
- 1:39:20Speaker 6: And fourteen ninety by William Sinclair. It's a structure rich
- 1:39:24Speaker 6: in templar Masonic symbols.
- 1:39:29Speaker 5: And said to be a copy of the Temple of Solomon.
- 1:39:32Speaker 5: There appear carvings in stone depicting a Masonic initiation, as
- 1:39:36Speaker 5: well as the pillars of Boaz and Yaquin, as well
- 1:39:40Speaker 5: as ears of Corn, thought to be unknown in Europe
- 1:39:43Speaker 5: at the time. The name Sinclair, Saint Clair, Santo Claro
- 1:39:50Speaker 5: or Sanctis Clarus means Holy Liked and originated in Normandy, France. Again.
- 1:39:58Speaker 5: William Sinclair became the first Earl of Cathnics, Baron of
- 1:40:03Speaker 5: Rosslyn and Earl of Orkney. Henry Sinclair, a Scottish Norwegian nobleman,
- 1:40:12Speaker 5: was grandfather of William Sinclair and builder of Rosslyn Chapel.
- 1:40:16Speaker 6: William was the.
- 1:40:17Speaker 5: Earl of Orkney, which is a title given under the
- 1:40:21Speaker 5: King of Norway Norse.
- 1:40:24Speaker 6: Through his first marriage to.
- 1:40:26Speaker 5: A great granddaughter of the King magnus of Sweden and Norway.
- 1:40:32Speaker 5: So these are just some of the symbols that are
- 1:40:34Speaker 5: found in Rosslyn. So the little sketching on the bottom
- 1:40:39Speaker 5: there that shows what is believed to be a Masonic
- 1:40:42Speaker 5: initiation with the little buddy there. He's got a blindfold
- 1:40:46Speaker 5: on and he's got a rope around his neck and.
- 1:40:51Speaker 6: Whatever else is going on there.
- 1:40:55Speaker 5: There's some depictions of some knights and yeah. Interesting, have
- 1:41:03Speaker 5: you guys ever been there anybody place?
- 1:41:07Speaker 1: Just that one picture right there, that detail is like insane.
- 1:41:12Speaker 5: Yeah, there's the symbols in that place. Well, you see
- 1:41:17Speaker 5: they have that green man too. There's common finding the columns. Yeah,
- 1:41:23Speaker 5: and they found something in one of the columns too,
- 1:41:25Speaker 5: I think.
- 1:41:27Speaker 6: And there's the rose windows.
- 1:41:31Speaker 1: Yeah, just a lot of that ship.
- 1:41:33Speaker 2: I wonder like if it's to change the frequencies and shipping,
- 1:41:39Speaker 2: because I do cover that.
- 1:41:40Speaker 5: You just make a video about that?
- 1:41:42Speaker 2: Well no, no, Well it's kind of like one of
- 1:41:44Speaker 2: the things I have coming up that I think next
- 1:41:47Speaker 2: week that drops gets more into like the whole sound
- 1:41:51Speaker 2: reverberation and all this, you know, neuro architecture, it's considered
- 1:41:56Speaker 2: now it's actual science. How it affects like your neurosystem
- 1:41:59Speaker 2: and uh yeah, I'm just I'm wondering about it, like
- 1:42:03Speaker 2: this place just from the way it's built, which is
- 1:42:06Speaker 2: very interesting.
- 1:42:08Speaker 4: I think after what they I don't know, if you
- 1:42:10Speaker 4: heard about what they found out about Stonehenge, that that
- 1:42:15Speaker 4: that the vibration there is meant to, for lack of
- 1:42:20Speaker 4: a better word, make you somewhat anxious. That's what that's
- 1:42:23Speaker 4: the latest reports. So I don't know if they're going
- 1:42:26Speaker 4: to revisit these places to see if they are the same,
- 1:42:29Speaker 4: if they have the same effects of people, because on people,
- 1:42:34Speaker 4: because if you do recall for a good chunk outside
- 1:42:38Speaker 4: of the hostility, for a good time there.
- 1:42:40Speaker 3: They weren't letting people near the pyramids either.
- 1:42:43Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I know people that have gotten to pyramids
- 1:42:47Speaker 5: in different locations, not just the Egyptian ones, and had
- 1:42:51Speaker 5: weird trippy experiences.
- 1:42:54Speaker 6: So the frequency is is different.
- 1:42:59Speaker 5: I don't know if it fluctuates or if it's always
- 1:43:01Speaker 5: the same or how it's affected, but there is a difference.
- 1:43:07Speaker 1: I agree.
- 1:43:10Speaker 3: I do have a question for someone.
- 1:43:14Speaker 9: Mentioned it in the in the chat about a tale,
- 1:43:18Speaker 9: which where is it there goes the magic flight, the
- 1:43:23Speaker 9: Milwauk story of the Magic Flight they said it.
- 1:43:27Speaker 4: It's from sub sub eliminated node. I'm sorry if i
- 1:43:32Speaker 4: I'm butchering your name. Uh, it's the Milwaukee story of
- 1:43:36Speaker 4: the Magic Flight. Uh, they says indigenous retelling of the
- 1:43:42Speaker 4: Lake Flora and Flores myth and ties directly to the
- 1:43:47Speaker 4: Grail myth, as told by Sherton de Troy's.
- 1:43:52Speaker 1: Oh.
- 1:43:53Speaker 5: I'm not familiar with that, but I'm going to look
- 1:43:55Speaker 5: into that.
- 1:43:56Speaker 1: Oh.
- 1:43:56Speaker 5: I wasn't aware the other tribes had. Oh that's interesting.
- 1:44:01Speaker 5: I'm not I don't know anything about it, but I'm
- 1:44:04Speaker 5: happy to learn about it. I'm gonna check that out.
- 1:44:09Speaker 1: M hm. The loon coming in? Ah, all right, next
- 1:44:18Speaker 1: to you? Still got I'm just I'm I'm not sure
- 1:44:22Speaker 1: where we were.
- 1:44:24Speaker 6: Yeah, we're almost there.
- 1:44:26Speaker 5: Home stretch. So the book The Knights Templar in the
- 1:44:32Speaker 5: New World by William E. Mann, who is a templar,
- 1:44:37Speaker 5: traces the transatlantic voyage of Henry Sinclair to Nova Scotia
- 1:44:41Speaker 5: one hundred years before Columbus. He was in possession of
- 1:44:45Speaker 5: maps detailing the roots taken by the North Sailors, probably
- 1:44:50Speaker 5: through his marriage, and became acquainted with the renowned sailors
- 1:44:54Speaker 5: Niccolo and Antonio Zeno, who were Venetian noble nobility, he
- 1:45:01Speaker 5: who accompanied him and his thirteen ships to the New World.
- 1:45:06Speaker 5: The book Tracy's Connections to Oak Island fabled to hold
- 1:45:10Speaker 5: the buried treasure New Ross Nova Scotia, which is named
- 1:45:15Speaker 5: after Rossland in Scotland, and the micmac may have thought
- 1:45:22Speaker 5: Sinclair to be the return of blues cap Nova Scotia
- 1:45:27Speaker 5: means New Scotland. New Ross is located on major lay
- 1:45:32Speaker 5: lines in Nova Scotia. And I thought a fun fact
- 1:45:37Speaker 5: also was that Scotland was named after Princess Scota, the
- 1:45:42Speaker 5: daughter of a pharaoh, Egyptian pharaoh who was reputed to
- 1:45:46Speaker 5: have red hair and could be the origins of red
- 1:45:50Speaker 5: hair gene in Scotland and Ireland, so Scota. Also there's
- 1:45:56Speaker 5: the Pharaoh Islands in Scotland. There they're spelled f A
- 1:46:02Speaker 5: R O E, but pronounced the same as the Egyptian pharaoh.
- 1:46:07Speaker 5: So I don't know if that means anything, but the
- 1:46:10Speaker 5: fun fact. At the bottom there is the overtin stone.
- 1:46:15Speaker 5: This is found I think in Yarmouth, Nova Scotia, and
- 1:46:18Speaker 5: it shows a templar cross and a crisscross feathers and
- 1:46:24Speaker 5: a moon, a crescent moon. This is carved on a
- 1:46:26Speaker 5: stone and it's thought to have is believed to be
- 1:46:30Speaker 5: a covenant perhaps between the Micmac and the Templars. So
- 1:46:39Speaker 5: is there a slide after this? Oh? Yeah, Oh so
- 1:46:44Speaker 5: here's the more Templars. This is the Westford Night.
- 1:46:47Speaker 1: Yeah. I think the thing that's new.
- 1:46:53Speaker 5: That's a Newport tower. Is that the one you were
- 1:46:54Speaker 5: talking about?
- 1:46:55Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, there's some solar.
- 1:46:59Speaker 6: Alignment with that as well.
- 1:47:00Speaker 5: I think I don't know if it's the solstice or whatever,
- 1:47:03Speaker 5: but there's some solar alignment and there's some interesting calculations
- 1:47:08Speaker 5: in the tower as well. So that's just a more
- 1:47:12Speaker 5: evidence of the Templars in America. I just wanted to talk.
- 1:47:16Speaker 6: About the Overtonstone a little bit.
- 1:47:18Speaker 5: More tales speak of a covenant or treaty between the
- 1:47:24Speaker 5: Macmac and the Templars at this time. The story goes
- 1:47:29Speaker 5: that the Templars were looking to hide the Holy Grail,
- 1:47:32Speaker 5: the blood of Christ in the New World. The leaders
- 1:47:35Speaker 5: in the Holy Blood Holy Grail lore maintain that the
- 1:47:39Speaker 5: Templars brought the bloodline of Jesus Christ to the New
- 1:47:42Speaker 5: World and married into some mcmac families, a secret oath perhaps,
- 1:47:49Speaker 5: or perhaps that's the real hidden treasure they're talking about. Also,
- 1:47:53Speaker 5: it might explain why Joseph Smith was interested in the
- 1:47:58Speaker 5: micmac and the bloodline. Being a Mason might have given
- 1:48:03Speaker 5: him a lead on where to find the blood. I
- 1:48:06Speaker 5: don't know how it works, but he had he had
- 1:48:08Speaker 5: a direct interest in Micmacott.
- 1:48:12Speaker 3: See.
- 1:48:14Speaker 5: So yeah, And I wanted to say about my name.
- 1:48:19Speaker 5: So my name is Santa Paz. Okay. Now, traditionally mickmc
- 1:48:24Speaker 5: names have we're given by Jesuits and priests. So you
- 1:48:28Speaker 5: have you have Peters and Paul and Simon and Augustine.
- 1:48:33Speaker 5: But then you have a name like Santapaz, which is
- 1:48:36Speaker 5: not uh generated from Christianity, and it's pronounced sunny bus zunnypus,
- 1:48:44Speaker 5: So it's a B. It's a B sound, not a P.
- 1:48:48Speaker 5: And it's only supposed to be having one S at
- 1:48:52Speaker 5: the end, which means it has seven letters. And the
- 1:48:58Speaker 5: the legend says that it's an anagram for the first
- 1:49:02Speaker 5: letter of the last name of each family.
- 1:49:05Speaker 6: That holds the blood of Pregsy. So I don't say
- 1:49:09Speaker 6: I believe it or not.
- 1:49:09Speaker 5: I'm just saying that's one of the.
- 1:49:14Speaker 1: That's a pretty gangster story for the last name that's
- 1:49:21Speaker 1: pretty cool.
- 1:49:23Speaker 5: Yeah, so I think is that the last one? Oh? Oh,
- 1:49:29Speaker 5: the stars Okay, I just showed a bunch of different
- 1:49:31Speaker 5: variations of the eight point at star here and the
- 1:49:37Speaker 5: I don't know if everyone's familiar with the Satyr square
- 1:49:40Speaker 5: or it's also called the Templar square, and that's if
- 1:49:44Speaker 5: if you find all the a's and o's and join
- 1:49:47Speaker 5: at the center, you get the eight point at star.
- 1:49:50Speaker 5: Now the A and the O is also probably the
- 1:49:52Speaker 5: alpha and the omega maybe, And if you look at
- 1:49:56Speaker 5: the petroglyph eight point at star there at the bottom,
- 1:50:01Speaker 5: it kind of reminds me of the Satyr square with
- 1:50:05Speaker 5: because it keeps circling back to the center and it
- 1:50:09Speaker 5: has seven or sorry eight xes on the outside and
- 1:50:15Speaker 5: if you count the s's and t's on the outer box,
- 1:50:18Speaker 5: there's also eight boxes. So I just thought there's more
- 1:50:27Speaker 5: connections to the Templar and the mcmac star. And also
- 1:50:32Speaker 5: the one with the skull is said to be the
- 1:50:36Speaker 5: oath skull of the templar, so when you took your oath,
- 1:50:38Speaker 5: you put your hand on that skull. And there's also
- 1:50:44Speaker 5: the star of each star, so there's there's again the
- 1:50:48Speaker 5: eight pointed star is like a ubiquitous symbol across all history. Really,
- 1:50:55Speaker 5: you see it across different variations and forms.
- 1:51:00Speaker 2: The Sadus square has also been considered sometimes you know,
- 1:51:04Speaker 2: they could be uh doesn't mean this is true. Maybe
- 1:51:07Speaker 2: it could be a specific type of Christian. But there
- 1:51:11Speaker 2: was houses that supposedly were found that we kind of
- 1:51:14Speaker 2: have those like on on it somewhere, and they claimed
- 1:51:18Speaker 2: that that was also a way of Christians letting other
- 1:51:21Speaker 2: Christians know that, you know, I'm a Christian, but it
- 1:51:23Speaker 2: was not safe.
- 1:51:24Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, that was like.
- 1:51:26Speaker 5: Definitely a Christian symbol around Christian symbology.
- 1:51:31Speaker 2: The same time, that supposedly like if you met a
- 1:51:34Speaker 2: Christian in the street, I guess somewhere where, like and
- 1:51:36Speaker 2: if you had to stick on you you draw like
- 1:51:39Speaker 2: one slice one part of the fish and then they
- 1:51:41Speaker 2: would draw the other part on the ground to finish
- 1:51:44Speaker 2: it off, and.
- 1:51:44Speaker 1: That would be a way of you both.
- 1:51:45Speaker 2: Yeah, there were Christians supposedly, so it was like around
- 1:51:49Speaker 2: that time where they were supposedly doing things like that
- 1:51:51Speaker 2: to let other people know what's up.
- 1:51:55Speaker 1: I don't know how true that is.
- 1:51:56Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, the sad square, like if you really work
- 1:51:59Speaker 5: with you can get to like magic squares like.
- 1:52:03Speaker 6: The Myers square and Saturn square and stuff like that.
- 1:52:05Speaker 5: So it's really like it's full of secrets really when
- 1:52:09Speaker 5: you think about it. So I just thought it was
- 1:52:12Speaker 5: interesting to show it next to the it's it's a
- 1:52:19Speaker 5: neighbor and micmac country there. So we can go to
- 1:52:22Speaker 5: the next one and that shows more eight point stars
- 1:52:27Speaker 5: and squares, but the top one I want to show
- 1:52:30Speaker 5: because the first image is a pyramid, and if you
- 1:52:36Speaker 5: open the pyramid and flatten it, you get the eight
- 1:52:39Speaker 5: pointed star, which is also the third image is a
- 1:52:43Speaker 5: photo of a photon, so this is like a microscopic
- 1:52:48Speaker 5: image of a photon, which is the same image.
- 1:52:52Speaker 6: So it feels like science is confirming.
- 1:52:59Speaker 5: Or finding some in hidden in in the microscopic.
- 1:53:05Speaker 2: When I was at a cosmic summit twenty twenty five,
- 1:53:09Speaker 2: it was it was whatever that's cosmic summit. There was
- 1:53:12Speaker 2: a guy Bob green Fields something like that, Bob green something,
- 1:53:18Speaker 2: and he was he I don't know him himself, but
- 1:53:22Speaker 2: he was talking about I know at one point he
- 1:53:24Speaker 2: was mentioned I think his father or his grandfather was
- 1:53:26Speaker 2: a mason and he had all these relics left over,
- 1:53:29Speaker 2: you know, somehow this guy, I guess, got interested in
- 1:53:31Speaker 2: it and started showing how like some of their symbolism.
- 1:53:35Speaker 2: Literally it was like going back to like weird shit,
- 1:53:38Speaker 2: like what you're showing here, I was like actually going
- 1:53:40Speaker 2: back to like science, and I was like, what the fuck?
- 1:53:43Speaker 5: Well, modern science is finding all these images in the
- 1:53:47Speaker 5: microscopic that are like the Yin and yang symbol or
- 1:53:51Speaker 5: this this templar cross or like things that that I
- 1:53:59Speaker 5: don't know, they find their way back somehow because it's
- 1:54:02Speaker 5: that wasn't the origin. Obviously, they weren't looking at microscopes
- 1:54:05Speaker 5: and seeing these images, and you.
- 1:54:08Speaker 1: Know what the thing is there?
- 1:54:09Speaker 2: If we I mean, because it's not a known like
- 1:54:13Speaker 2: I don't know, I think that possibly that the science
- 1:54:17Speaker 2: that we have, Like we've gone through this multiple times,
- 1:54:21Speaker 2: and if you take that as a possibility, all this
- 1:54:24Speaker 2: starts to make sense that it's actually just a culted
- 1:54:26Speaker 2: fucking science.
- 1:54:28Speaker 1: Sometimes.
- 1:54:28Speaker 10: Yes, yeah, maybe they could go back to I don't
- 1:54:37Speaker 10: want to do this, and I know so I know
- 1:54:40Speaker 10: one person who's gonna smile when I say this, But
- 1:54:43Speaker 10: it could actually support the whole in a Knaki situation, too.
- 1:54:49Speaker 3: Hidden in plain sight.
- 1:54:51Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they would explain a lot of things like
- 1:54:55Speaker 2: how well this ship was built that we can't do now,
- 1:54:57Speaker 2: it would make sense because they had just back then
- 1:54:59Speaker 2: they may a little bit more advanced than we are now.
- 1:55:01Speaker 2: And then yeah well yeah, yeah, well, I mean, you know,
- 1:55:06Speaker 2: the thing is, it's like, who knows how far advanced
- 1:55:09Speaker 2: some people are.
- 1:55:10Speaker 1: We just don't know, you know what I'm saying.
- 1:55:13Speaker 5: It's also like, if we think of North America as
- 1:55:16Speaker 5: the New World, we think before Columbus arrived, this was
- 1:55:19Speaker 5: nothing but like empty space. But there's obviously been civilization
- 1:55:24Speaker 5: after civilization time, like since the beginning of time, So
- 1:55:29Speaker 5: can we stop pretending that isn't there.
- 1:55:31Speaker 2: There's even been a few of the things that I've
- 1:55:32Speaker 2: covered on the show, for like their architecture, or if
- 1:55:35Speaker 2: it was like some sort of solar or like lunar place.
- 1:55:38Speaker 2: There was a few of them where they the whatever
- 1:55:42Speaker 2: native tribes that were there that are even known to
- 1:55:44Speaker 2: be the earliest ones associated with it.
- 1:55:47Speaker 1: They even say it was here already.
- 1:55:50Speaker 2: There's one's out there that they don't even say who
- 1:55:52Speaker 2: they know who built it because there is no answer.
- 1:55:55Speaker 5: Yeah, well, the hope, I think believe that they're in
- 1:55:58Speaker 5: the fifth world right now. So every other worlds, including
- 1:56:02Speaker 5: the sun associated with that world was destroyed and everything
- 1:56:07Speaker 5: is reborn from It's kind of like Planet of the Apes.
- 1:56:11Speaker 5: It's just an endless cycle of recycling and time doesn't
- 1:56:18Speaker 5: really matter.
- 1:56:19Speaker 2: There's even been things that like that to start getting
- 1:56:21Speaker 2: into like conspiracy world again.
- 1:56:23Speaker 1: But I mean, I guess we're already there with this stuff.
- 1:56:25Speaker 11: Uh.
- 1:56:25Speaker 2: There's even like certain things like with certain buildings, like
- 1:56:28Speaker 2: even the Empire State I think it was the Empire
- 1:56:30Speaker 2: State building supposedly was constructed in two years. Long story short,
- 1:56:34Speaker 2: there's certain things that you see that are supposedly were
- 1:56:38Speaker 2: like not known, Like I guess, like all right, put
- 1:56:42Speaker 2: it this way. It's like if if we didn't have
- 1:56:44Speaker 2: the technology we have now where we know something exists
- 1:56:47Speaker 2: somewhere that we haven't been too yet. You understand what
- 1:56:50Speaker 2: I'm getting at, Like if I've like if you want
- 1:56:52Speaker 2: to go back like one hundred and fifty years, you
- 1:56:55Speaker 2: don't know what the fuck anything looks like anyway because
- 1:56:57Speaker 2: you don't have it. You know, have fucking TV of
- 1:56:59Speaker 2: fucking internet.
- 1:57:01Speaker 1: You don't got somebody send any videos of what they're
- 1:57:03Speaker 1: doing in Nigeria, you know what I'm saying, Like on Instagram.
- 1:57:07Speaker 2: So like I do wonder if there was like certain times,
- 1:57:09Speaker 2: there was things that might have pre existed. And once
- 1:57:13Speaker 2: I guess society started getting like a little bit more
- 1:57:16Speaker 2: like connected, you got to start coming up and saying, oh,
- 1:57:19Speaker 2: like yeah, we just built this now.
- 1:57:21Speaker 5: Yeah, well yeah, I mean the whole like like as
- 1:57:25Speaker 5: they call it, tartaria. But all of those buildings don't
- 1:57:29Speaker 5: belong in this in this timeline.
- 1:57:31Speaker 6: We can't make any of them.
- 1:57:33Speaker 5: We don't remember building any of them. Where does this
- 1:57:36Speaker 5: come from? So it's kind of like the Adena Mones
- 1:57:38Speaker 5: are from another time. Those buildings are from another time.
- 1:57:42Speaker 5: Nothing makes sense in history. We got to figure this
- 1:57:44Speaker 5: shit out on our own.
- 1:57:45Speaker 1: I think, Yo, if.
- 1:57:47Speaker 2: You already even look at someone like the old pictures
- 1:57:49Speaker 2: from like New York, you're gonna see like a lot
- 1:57:52Speaker 2: of black and Native American people and it's just like, yeah,
- 1:57:56Speaker 2: who built those fucking Like if you still go back
- 1:57:58Speaker 2: to that and look like you got dudes with like,
- 1:58:00Speaker 2: you know, like little rifles. But like if you start
- 1:58:02Speaker 2: looking at some of the buildings in the architecture and
- 1:58:05Speaker 2: those pictures, you got to start wondering, like.
- 1:58:07Speaker 1: They've built that. Yeah, it still doesn't make any sense.
- 1:58:11Speaker 2: I've seen some pictures of that online and I'm just like,
- 1:58:13Speaker 2: that is a pretty fucking insane building that those Native Americans,
- 1:58:17Speaker 2: supposedly in the New York area are standing against.
- 1:58:20Speaker 5: Right now, I think we need to be asking more
- 1:58:24Speaker 5: questions about everything, even if we don't get the answers.
- 1:58:27Speaker 5: We just got to ask more questions because this ship
- 1:58:30Speaker 5: don't make sense when I don't have answers. I just
- 1:58:35Speaker 5: asked more questions.
- 1:58:37Speaker 1: Off the topic.
- 1:58:41Speaker 4: Those questions actually leads to more questions, but they also
- 1:58:45Speaker 4: connect a lot of dots exactly, and rounding it back
- 1:58:51Speaker 4: up to the memo, is that.
- 1:58:58Speaker 5: Sorry, yeah, I have a part of that. There's a
- 1:59:04Speaker 5: million ways to pronounce it.
- 1:59:06Speaker 4: If you look at their culture, the lineage, they have
- 1:59:10Speaker 4: every aspect of culture throughout the entire world and that
- 1:59:15Speaker 4: we are aware of right now. I was waiting for
- 1:59:19Speaker 4: you to connect them to Australia, to the indigenous people
- 1:59:22Speaker 4: in Australia and New Zealand, because.
- 1:59:25Speaker 5: I think everything's connected in ways that we just can't
- 1:59:28Speaker 5: see it, Like everything seems so far apart through history,
- 1:59:32Speaker 5: like so dispirit and distanced, but also we think, oh,
- 1:59:37Speaker 5: Europe is so far away across the ocean. We could
- 1:59:40Speaker 5: never get there. But really we got to start shrinking things,
- 1:59:43Speaker 5: even the timeline. We got to look at it, and
- 1:59:45Speaker 5: now we can see everything starts to fit, maybe because
- 1:59:48Speaker 5: we're not thinking everything so far apart. So once you
- 1:59:52Speaker 5: start shrinking it, you can start connecting the dots maybe
- 1:59:55Speaker 5: a little more. That's how I feel about how I
- 1:59:58Speaker 5: see the world.
- 2:00:01Speaker 4: And if it wasn't for the ginger part of it,
- 2:00:06Speaker 4: I can't get over that. That's that's too much of
- 2:00:11Speaker 4: a coincidence. No such thing, you ow. It's almost like
- 2:00:16Speaker 4: a shared collective consciousness throughout the world at that time,
- 2:00:20Speaker 4: which would be real easy if you think about it,
- 2:00:22Speaker 4: because there's no interference.
- 2:00:23Speaker 3: Like Nick said, the.
- 2:00:25Speaker 5: World was less populated too, so the world was smaller,
- 2:00:29Speaker 5: more like community more more you're actually talking to people,
- 2:00:33Speaker 5: You're meeting people, you're telling stories, doom scrolling and watching tiktoks.
- 2:00:40Speaker 4: You know.
- 2:00:41Speaker 3: Well, actually with the internet is easier to have those conversations.
- 2:00:46Speaker 3: But what we were believed to be uh the world
- 2:00:53Speaker 3: that the Native Americans lived, we believed they lived, and
- 2:00:59Speaker 3: for them to have so much the Egyptian part, that's
- 2:01:04Speaker 3: what really has blown me away. Them knowing hieroglyphs, the
- 2:01:09Speaker 3: connection with the Vikings, the connection with the French to Europeans, and.
- 2:01:13Speaker 4: Then you go down several miles later into Louisiana mm hm,
- 2:01:20Speaker 4: which I think is a nice little interesting deep dive too,
- 2:01:25Speaker 4: because I don't think that tribe was the only tribe
- 2:01:28Speaker 4: that accumulated there either.
- 2:01:32Speaker 5: That'd be fun to find out too.
- 2:01:36Speaker 3: What what was that, Nick.
- 2:01:37Speaker 1: Both French influenced there too, mm hmm.
- 2:01:41Speaker 3: True.
- 2:01:42Speaker 5: Yeah, I think France has so much more influence over
- 2:01:44Speaker 5: the entire history of the world than we give it
- 2:01:46Speaker 5: credit for.
- 2:01:49Speaker 2: Yeah, so, yeah, I even think that was like even
- 2:01:52Speaker 2: the part of the whole crap going on at the Olympics,
- 2:01:56Speaker 2: you know, I do think that's why there was a
- 2:01:58Speaker 2: big cerem real type thing going on, because I do
- 2:02:01Speaker 2: think France one, yeah, yeah, I think that's why that
- 2:02:08Speaker 2: was once, in my opinion, was very occult.
- 2:02:10Speaker 1: And I think it's because like, oh yeah, they're making us.
- 2:02:13Speaker 5: You know, they have smurfs too, well, they have this guy.
- 2:02:21Speaker 11: Like I didn't get that France.
- 2:02:32Speaker 6: And Smurfs, we tied it all in.
- 2:02:37Speaker 5: Actually, Nick, if you want to hit the button, there's
- 2:02:39Speaker 5: one more slide. I think. All right, well, well, we'll
- 2:02:42Speaker 5: finish it up with this one. So this is the
- 2:02:45Speaker 5: side by side I was telling you about earlier with
- 2:02:47Speaker 5: the Templar and the Mickmac where they're just mirrored of
- 2:02:49Speaker 5: each other and just some examples of the Maltese flag
- 2:02:57Speaker 5: and all that stuff. So that is the end, my friend.
- 2:03:02Speaker 3: Though, that is the in for now. There's two to
- 2:03:05Speaker 3: look at into this.
- 2:03:08Speaker 5: Yeah, it's been fun though. It's been a lot of
- 2:03:10Speaker 5: fun putting this together and researching.
- 2:03:15Speaker 1: Yeah you Nick, no, thank you, no, thank you.
- 2:03:18Speaker 2: That was fucking awesome. I had a blessed definitely some
- 2:03:22Speaker 2: weird ship in there.
- 2:03:25Speaker 5: I mean, well, you don't got to believe everything, but
- 2:03:27Speaker 5: you know, if it's fun, it's fun.
- 2:03:31Speaker 4: It's not the belief part is you were able to
- 2:03:34Speaker 4: connect the dots.
- 2:03:37Speaker 3: That's how I see.
- 2:03:39Speaker 6: Well, for me, it's all connected.
- 2:03:41Speaker 2: Like I was saying at the beginning of in my
- 2:03:43Speaker 2: opinion that I do think, you know, cult orders or
- 2:03:45Speaker 2: cult minded people have swapped symbolism.
- 2:03:50Speaker 6: And the Macmac world was magicians. Also, it's a very
- 2:03:55Speaker 6: magical world.
- 2:03:56Speaker 1: I think that's all.
- 2:03:57Speaker 2: No, I think like all those like the shaman and
- 2:04:00Speaker 2: that those people that went underwent like all this stuff.
- 2:04:03Speaker 2: I do think that was their own way of them
- 2:04:05Speaker 2: having their own magical experience.
- 2:04:08Speaker 1: Yeah, I do think that.
- 2:04:09Speaker 5: Well, there's also I didn't tell you about it, but
- 2:04:11Speaker 5: there's ceremonies that that they're kind of like resurrection ceremonies
- 2:04:17Speaker 5: I guess, so yeah, yeah makes sense.
- 2:04:20Speaker 2: I mean look at like, uh, how some orders will
- 2:04:24Speaker 2: make it look like you're getting buried.
- 2:04:26Speaker 1: I mean skull and bones. You know, they always talk
- 2:04:27Speaker 1: about that.
- 2:04:29Speaker 5: You know, I think I'm not familiar with all Secret society. Yeah,
- 2:04:34Speaker 5: but I think they all have some death and resurrection.
- 2:04:38Speaker 1: Yeah, and you hear that a lot with like certain yeah,
- 2:04:41Speaker 1: tribal initiations. Yeah, a lot of similarities I think for sure. Yeah,
- 2:04:49Speaker 1: thank you very much. Don't lean again. That was I
- 2:04:51Speaker 1: thought that was banging pleasure, right. That was fucking awesome.
- 2:04:56Speaker 1: I haven't had a good sight show in a long
- 2:04:58Speaker 1: time like that. Yeah, you have a you ever get
- 2:05:00Speaker 1: an itch to cover something else? Pa, just let me know.
- 2:05:03Speaker 5: Definitely, I've been all right for a while. Don't tell
- 2:05:08Speaker 5: me because you never know.
- 2:05:11Speaker 1: Uh, was there anything that you wanted to promote?
- 2:05:14Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you don't really have anything right
- 2:05:16Speaker 2: unless you want to be you know, I got nothing nobody.
- 2:05:20Speaker 3: She just put together future research paper though.
- 2:05:25Speaker 5: Yeah. Actually, you know what I was thinking about doing
- 2:05:28Speaker 5: this summer is going to see some of these places.
- 2:05:31Speaker 5: I'm right here, right, I'm in the Maritimes, So I'm
- 2:05:34Speaker 5: thinking about going to see and revisit some of these
- 2:05:36Speaker 5: places with new eyes.
- 2:05:39Speaker 1: Nice person to actually go see the police.
- 2:05:42Speaker 5: Yeah, the mound especially, I'd like to go see that.
- 2:05:46Speaker 1: Make it happen. All right, Judith, you want to let
- 2:05:50Speaker 1: everybody know what's up with you.
- 2:05:52Speaker 3: Uh, first, this was this was a blast. Thank you,
- 2:05:58Speaker 3: Like I didn't have enough rabbit holes to go down,
- 2:06:00Speaker 3: but thank you for giving me more. And uh for
- 2:06:04Speaker 3: everybody else.
- 2:06:05Speaker 4: Uh you can find me at YouTube and on x
- 2:06:09Speaker 4: as alone, and you can find me on speaker for
- 2:06:13Speaker 4: my podcast.
- 2:06:15Speaker 3: And thank you again, No.
- 2:06:17Speaker 2: Thank you Judith. That was fun. I had a bless man.
- 2:06:21Speaker 2: Uh yeah, and again Dolane, thank you very much again,
- 2:06:24Speaker 2: appreciate it. That was an amazing slide show.
- 2:06:26Speaker 1: That was a lot that that was really interesting. Ship.
- 2:06:30Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to like go back to this actually
- 2:06:32Speaker 1: and probably like take notes.
- 2:06:34Speaker 5: And yeah, I was worried it might be too much
- 2:06:38Speaker 5: a lot to do.
- 2:06:38Speaker 2: Yes, well, that's a perfect show for that, so don't
- 2:06:40Speaker 2: worry about it. But and thank you everybody in the
- 2:06:43Speaker 2: chat too. Man great questions. If we missed any, I'm
- 2:06:45Speaker 2: sorry there was. As you can say, there was a
- 2:06:47Speaker 2: lot of stuff going on. But uh yeah, Judith, thank
- 2:06:49Speaker 2: you for helping me with the questions and everything. That's awesome.
- 2:06:51Speaker 2: I appreciate that.
- 2:06:53Speaker 1: And uh yeah again people, if you ever got them,
- 2:06:56Speaker 1: throw them up on this throw them up and we'll
- 2:06:57Speaker 1: try to get to them. And uh that's the end
- 2:06:59Speaker 1: of another Rejects and until the next one, everybody be
- 2:07:02Speaker 1: well later