Latest / Anele and the Club on 947 / Has etiquette fallen away?
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Wake up with a bang, wake up and the club
- 0:04Speaker 1: on ninety seven.
- 0:06Speaker 2: Anything Now, I saw something happen at the mid Garla
- 0:08Speaker 2: this past Monday. Yeah, Blue Ivy, jay Z and Beyonce's daughter.
- 0:14Speaker 2: She's on the red carpet. Yeah, well done to honor them.
- 0:18Speaker 2: Rah rah rah love your gowns.
- 0:19Speaker 3: Hope you in. So she's taking a photo.
- 0:22Speaker 2: There's like a family photo, and about five people are
- 0:26Speaker 2: begging her to take her sungnglasses off? Right?
- 0:28Speaker 4: How old?
- 0:29Speaker 3: She's fourteen?
- 0:30Speaker 4: Okay?
- 0:31Speaker 5: Yeah? Eight?
- 0:32Speaker 3: No, no, no that I'm Lyne line nine two and fourteen.
- 0:35Speaker 6: Wasn't eleven?
- 0:36Speaker 7: She's fourteen?
- 0:37Speaker 3: Yes? Fourteen?
- 0:38Speaker 2: Okay, so now, the publicist asked, said the bodyguard asked her.
- 0:43Speaker 2: The only person not asking is Beyonce because that was.
- 0:46Speaker 3: Like fourteen year old girl. Haha, you'll try.
- 0:50Speaker 2: Jay Z also asked, and she's like, no, I'm gonna
- 0:51Speaker 2: take them off later when.
- 0:52Speaker 3: We woke up, like we walk one of these days.
- 0:55Speaker 2: Look, and then I was just like, I mean, my darling,
- 0:58Speaker 2: you are fourteen years old and your dad is asking
- 1:00Speaker 2: you to take off your sunglasses. Why would you not
- 1:03Speaker 2: take off your sunglasses? Like?
- 1:05Speaker 3: What what's going on?
- 1:06Speaker 7: Step seem No, that is that is really I don't know. Well,
- 1:12Speaker 7: my fourteen year old wouldn't be a life to tell
- 1:14Speaker 7: the tale of the day.
- 1:15Speaker 3: He didn't take us.
- 1:17Speaker 7: But it's like edikuid in general. Don't you find like
- 1:20Speaker 7: etiquettes in general with kids and not even I don't
- 1:23Speaker 7: even want to say teenagers, Like even people in their
- 1:24Speaker 7: twenties are speaking to Dad the other day who says
- 1:27Speaker 7: he had to teach his son that, and the and
- 1:29Speaker 7: the kids in his twenties when he phones them, Yeah,
- 1:32Speaker 7: when he phones them, he must say hello. And then
- 1:35Speaker 7: he said, but why would I say hello? I know
- 1:36Speaker 7: it's you on the phone.
- 1:38Speaker 2: So wait, I call my child and they don't say hello,
- 1:42Speaker 2: So I must just start speaking and.
- 1:43Speaker 6: Be like, so, Jared, what are pretty much? They'd like
- 1:46Speaker 6: you to get to it. Let's jump straight into the conversation.
- 1:49Speaker 6: These are the kids of the mountain world.
- 1:51Speaker 2: But I mean we raised them, so clearly we are
- 1:54Speaker 2: part and parcel to blame.
- 1:55Speaker 1: Yeah, do you think we're we're to blame for the
- 1:57Speaker 1: yeah kind of going back to kids listening.
- 2:00Speaker 2: Ah, I've got a phrase for it, clocket. There is
- 2:04Speaker 2: an etiquette erosion happening, But.
- 2:08Speaker 7: I don't even think it's just like amongst teens and
- 2:11Speaker 7: twenties or whatever. I think they've started the revolution. But
- 2:13Speaker 7: I don't think we say hello anymore. Oh, I'll be honest,
- 2:18Speaker 7: I'll be like.
- 2:19Speaker 3: Well, well, well looking for me or hey, like.
- 2:24Speaker 2: If there's like a jokey, jokey thing that you and
- 2:25Speaker 2: your friend do. But if your phone rings, normally do
- 2:27Speaker 2: not say hello. Look just your phone rings and anyone's calling.
- 2:30Speaker 7: If I don't know the number, I don't say hello
- 2:32Speaker 7: A breathe heavily first to see.
- 2:34Speaker 3: You on the other side.
- 2:35Speaker 1: Because remember I remember when, like long long ago, with phones,
- 2:39Speaker 1: and this is how much even the etiquette has been
- 2:42Speaker 1: eroded with us, because you used to answer the phone
- 2:45Speaker 1: going hi, it's front with toy speaking.
- 2:49Speaker 4: That's how you you know.
- 2:50Speaker 2: I think maybe that's when it was a landline and
- 2:52Speaker 2: with the cell phone you are calling France or to toy,
- 2:54Speaker 2: so I don't have to tell you who it is
- 2:55Speaker 2: on the other side. But definitely, guys, we can say hello.
- 2:59Speaker 4: So so just to say just hello, good morning.
- 3:03Speaker 2: I think on one one eight it does have to
- 3:06Speaker 2: be a good morning, but I mean I can say hello, Oh,
- 3:09Speaker 2: one one eight eight thirty eight ninety four seven, Where
- 3:12Speaker 2: are you seeing that etiquette is falling away.
- 3:16Speaker 7: So on voice notes, nobody goes hey, everybody goes sorry
- 3:19Speaker 7: for the voice note back. I was just wondering, it's
- 3:23Speaker 7: that there's no hello.
- 3:24Speaker 3: Be like my mother.
- 3:25Speaker 6: My mother says hello at the start of the voice
- 3:27Speaker 6: note and goodbye at the end, Goodbye, over and out.
- 3:31Speaker 4: Because I don't when I'm now that we're talking about this.
- 3:33Speaker 1: If I'm texting, I don't know if I say hello,
- 3:36Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to go through my messages.
- 3:37Speaker 4: I'll just start texting. I'll just say bla blah blah
- 3:39Speaker 4: blah blah.
- 3:39Speaker 2: I'm guilty of this one. On WhatsApp, I just pick
- 3:41Speaker 2: up where we lift off. To me, I feel WhatsApp
- 3:43Speaker 2: is one long conversation. I'm sure you're fine, I'm sure
- 3:46Speaker 2: you're good.
- 3:47Speaker 3: This is what I need.
- 3:48Speaker 1: But truly, you should be saying hello. If it's the
- 3:49Speaker 1: first time today we're speaking to.
- 3:51Speaker 2: Someone, then I can't be judgement intel gare because I'm
- 3:53Speaker 2: very guilty of that.
- 3:54Speaker 7: I've just gone through my chat history with Frankie. He
- 3:56Speaker 7: doesn't say hello, he just goes straight in.
- 3:59Speaker 2: I've just realized this now, Wow, is there is this
- 4:03Speaker 2: sense of urgency that we all under making us forget
- 4:06Speaker 2: basic manners? Are we forgetting basic etiquette? And where are
- 4:10Speaker 2: you finding it the most? Is it in email communication?
- 4:14Speaker 2: Is it in WhatsApp? Is it in physical calls? Is
- 4:17Speaker 2: it you know, on the road? You know? I mean, guys,
- 4:21Speaker 2: if I let you in and you don't give me
- 4:23Speaker 2: a hazard or wave or nothing? Ah, just something, guys,
- 4:28Speaker 2: something zero eight four double zero double zero nine four seven.
- 4:33Speaker 7: I think there's definitely, like because emails quite formal, so
- 4:36Speaker 7: people still say hello whenever I tap an email, I
- 4:38Speaker 7: imagine myself writing with a feather and an ink pen,
- 4:41Speaker 7: because that's how formal and old email today.
- 4:44Speaker 3: Kind sir, guys.
- 4:48Speaker 2: Emails, if you're still kind of regards them, you're definitely
- 4:51Speaker 2: saying hello, like sincerely yours kind regards, have a blessed day,
- 4:58Speaker 2: many things.
- 4:59Speaker 1: But you're right, this sounds like a national emergency, this
- 5:02Speaker 1: kind of etiquette erosion.
- 5:04Speaker 2: Where do you see it eroding the most? Where you're like, ah, yeah,
- 5:09Speaker 2: the etiquette gone for a ball of and and snitch
- 5:13Speaker 2: on your kids kids, snitch on your mom and your dad,
- 5:17Speaker 2: and people only to knock on doors anymore, doesn't get
- 5:21Speaker 2: into your office. Whilst I have you no, you don't have.
- 5:24Speaker 4: Me, or you didn't, but now you do.
- 5:26Speaker 3: What are you doing?
- 5:28Speaker 8: Stop it morning, team. You can definitely say hello, and
- 5:32Speaker 8: I're gonna etiquette erosion. If you're getting to a store
- 5:35Speaker 8: we are about to pay, I will look at you.
- 5:37Speaker 8: My child greet the auntie if we are anyway, Hello Auntie,
- 5:41Speaker 8: Hello Mama. I always tell her stus out go go go, go, Mama,
- 5:44Speaker 8: go Auntie. I don't know if it's got to hello, Hello, man,
- 5:47Speaker 8: Hello dog.
- 5:48Speaker 3: Hello. There is no etiquette erosion.
- 5:50Speaker 9: Definitely with Annila and that one.
- 5:52Speaker 3: It's part of the parents' fault.
- 5:54Speaker 10: If the kids don't have respect and you need to
- 5:57Speaker 10: pain the tree while it's young.
- 6:00Speaker 3: I work in a school. The kids don't greet anymore.
- 6:03Speaker 2: I don't know what the parents are teaching these kids,
- 6:06Speaker 2: but the kids do not greet anymore.
- 6:09Speaker 3: So we are right.
- 6:11Speaker 6: There is an educated revision, and it starts with the parents.
- 6:13Speaker 6: I hung up when I started here on a colleague
- 6:15Speaker 6: three times because he used to just you'd pick up
- 6:18Speaker 6: in a different office and he'd just start barking at you.
- 6:20Speaker 3: So I hung up three times until we got it right.
- 6:22Speaker 6: By the time he left the company, I said, your
- 6:25Speaker 6: home training program is now complete.
- 6:27Speaker 3: You may go off off into the world now that
- 6:30Speaker 3: I've done my bits, go but often conquer my child.
- 6:34Speaker 3: Don't just address me. What do you think I just
- 6:37Speaker 3: say hello.
- 6:38Speaker 2: Hannah in Alberton, Hello, good morning, and Eli in the
- 6:41Speaker 2: club morning morning, Hello, How are you good? Good?
- 6:46Speaker 5: So?
- 6:47Speaker 11: Where I work, we have a takeaway and I called
- 6:51Speaker 11: the takeaway the one day for whatever.
- 6:53Speaker 9: Reason, Hi blah blah blah.
- 6:55Speaker 11: And the lady on the ounswie just cut the call.
- 6:58Speaker 11: I was flabbergascid. I was like, what's going on. I
- 7:02Speaker 11: called her back and I was like, no, that's not
- 7:04Speaker 11: how you end the conversation. You will say thank you, madamoiselle,
- 7:08Speaker 11: oh goodbye.
- 7:09Speaker 7: Yes.
- 7:10Speaker 2: We also spoke about this that people who don't say goodbye, they're.
- 7:12Speaker 3: Just like done, okay and hang up, and then they
- 7:15Speaker 3: hang up.
- 7:16Speaker 2: Look, okay, cheers, acknowledge that we.
- 7:18Speaker 3: Are done at this.
- 7:22Speaker 1: Hannah. I, now that you've raised this at this point
- 7:25Speaker 1: in time, I've got to say, use apologies to alson
- 7:29Speaker 1: our god at our gate. I could have just realized
- 7:33Speaker 1: that I actually never say bye.
- 7:35Speaker 4: You can let them in.
- 7:36Speaker 7: Oh, Frankie, you don't say hello or goodbye? You are
- 7:41Speaker 7: the reason etiquette ishynnah.
- 7:46Speaker 2: Ohah, Samon springs, Hi, how are you guys doing?
- 7:51Speaker 3: Were great? Samy?
- 7:52Speaker 2: Where do you see an etiquette erosion happening?
- 7:56Speaker 9: So I'm Afrikaan. So so when you address your parents
- 7:59Speaker 9: you say mama, right yeah, but for example, when you
- 8:04Speaker 9: say mama, you hand it who was mama said? So
- 8:08Speaker 9: you say mama every time? You don't say yay in yo.
- 8:12Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's kids.
- 8:14Speaker 9: They just say yaan yo. They don't say who was
- 8:16Speaker 9: Mama's dark this mama? You see? And if I did that,
- 8:22Speaker 9: I would have got a slap through my face.
- 8:24Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, absolutely is.
- 8:28Speaker 2: I mean, this is a topic for another day. But
- 8:30Speaker 2: these kids will call their parents by their names like it.
- 8:34Speaker 7: That is so weird.
- 8:35Speaker 3: I do die thank you, but.
- 8:37Speaker 1: I'm just thinking, yeah I do so obviously semi in Afrikaan.
- 8:42Speaker 1: This is a big thing. But it was a huge
- 8:44Speaker 1: was wondering do you you're in English?
- 8:46Speaker 2: Now?
- 8:46Speaker 4: You're certainly do your kids they'll say did? They say mom?
- 8:49Speaker 3: Every time how is Mom's day? They say how was
- 8:52Speaker 3: your day?
- 8:53Speaker 7: And it's not disrespectful to say how was your day?
- 8:55Speaker 3: In English?
- 8:56Speaker 6: You know.
- 8:57Speaker 2: But this is the language difference as well, because the
- 9:00Speaker 2: Africanist language places a lot of emphasis on you know,
- 9:04Speaker 2: title and saying who you're speaking to because as well,
- 9:07Speaker 2: because you just you're not gonna be That's why that
- 9:09Speaker 2: first lady in the voice not was like you don't
- 9:11Speaker 2: say hello, it's hello mama?
- 9:13Speaker 3: Who was my mom?
- 9:15Speaker 2: If my mom would call me like, didn't ys as
- 9:19Speaker 2: a bunny?
- 9:21Speaker 3: You know there's a mama.
- 9:23Speaker 6: The worst thing you can say, yeah, woman is here
- 9:26Speaker 6: when she's calling you.
- 9:27Speaker 3: No, no, my da correct to give it the respect
- 9:33Speaker 3: that it deserves.
- 9:33Speaker 2: And that's where things are eroding because I assume and
- 9:36Speaker 2: I'm my africancers are very limited.
- 9:38Speaker 3: But yeah, and that's a that's very It's when it's
- 9:42Speaker 3: the equivalent I beg your pardon.
- 9:50Speaker 4: Imagine like you said that he.
- 9:57Speaker 3: Are you dan? I'm you've reached your normal coins.
- 10:02Speaker 2: Do not insert more coins, no more lives son, When
- 10:06Speaker 2: you've done enough here on this you want to move
- 10:08Speaker 2: on to the next lifetime.
- 10:10Speaker 12: When I'm so crazy that I even said please and
- 10:18Speaker 12: thank you to co pilot. Our lecturier is that you
- 10:21Speaker 12: don't have to be polite.
- 10:22Speaker 4: No, you have to acknowledge me.
- 10:24Speaker 12: Bro, you godspake me to just talk and just just
- 10:27Speaker 12: you know, and jump onto a moving train.
- 10:29Speaker 10: No, man, I'm the mother that when I call my
- 10:32Speaker 10: kids and my soul say hello or what are you doing?
- 10:36Speaker 10: And then I start whatever conversation it is.
- 10:39Speaker 3: To my child. He's now twenty five, still does that,
- 10:43Speaker 3: and I'm not like that. A call he will keep
- 10:45Speaker 3: quiet until I say hello. Then he'll say hello.
- 10:49Speaker 8: Get so impressed when a gentleman holds the lift and
- 10:54Speaker 8: asks the lady to call in first, Because.
- 10:58Speaker 2: Guys, and maybe I grew up thinking that that's the norm, right,
- 11:04Speaker 2: But I'm finding more and more that we're just we're
- 11:07Speaker 2: getting slippery without etiquette.
- 11:08Speaker 3: For instance, even the whole lift thing.
- 11:10Speaker 2: Guys, when lift doors open, you don't know what's happening
- 11:14Speaker 2: inside the lift. Move out of the way, let other
- 11:17Speaker 2: people get out, and then get in now, and are
- 11:19Speaker 2: you standing there wanting to play squeezing?
- 11:22Speaker 3: We're squeezing past each other. It's absolute etiquette.
- 11:24Speaker 2: And just quickly on the voice notes, because we can't
- 11:27Speaker 2: go into calls. Now we're gonna take Giselle, then we'll
- 11:30Speaker 2: take Franz wore detoit another France Hello. But on voice notes,
- 11:35Speaker 2: I think it's it's important we suss the genesis of
- 11:39Speaker 2: the problem.
- 11:40Speaker 3: Whose faulty think it is? Because Freggy doesn't think it's us.
- 11:42Speaker 3: I think it's us. I think it's as adults.
- 11:44Speaker 2: This generation, the older generation, the young ones are just
- 11:47Speaker 2: reflecting what they see.
- 11:48Speaker 3: Do you agree with that?
- 11:49Speaker 2: No?
- 11:49Speaker 4: I don't think so.
- 11:51Speaker 1: I blame TikTok, I blame Instagram zero.
- 11:54Speaker 2: Eight four double zero double zero nine four seven.
- 11:57Speaker 3: Who do we you know? Atribute is an attribute? Is
- 12:00Speaker 3: the word I'm looking for.
- 12:01Speaker 2: Who do we place the blame on on this one?
- 12:04Speaker 2: Send us a voice?
- 12:04Speaker 4: Lad?
- 12:05Speaker 3: Does that?
- 12:05Speaker 2: You?
- 12:05Speaker 3: And Alberton, We're coming to you. Hi, and Nelly, how
- 12:09Speaker 3: are you?
- 12:11Speaker 13: I'm very good, Frankie consequences boy, I'm totally with Anelly
- 12:15Speaker 13: on this one. We do not blame TikTok. We do
- 12:17Speaker 13: not blame everything else.
- 12:20Speaker 3: I'm going to give you.
- 12:21Speaker 13: I'm going to give you two examples.
- 12:23Speaker 2: Two examples.
- 12:23Speaker 13: I've got a fourteen year old boy in high school.
- 12:26Speaker 13: His friends told today, if they see they come and greet,
- 12:29Speaker 13: they give her color auntie.
- 12:30Speaker 3: How are you?
- 12:31Speaker 13: That's upper thing? Opposite point, I've got a two year
- 12:34Speaker 13: old we walk in the shop. She will greet every tunny,
- 12:37Speaker 13: every every auntie, every uncle, and if you've got a
- 12:40Speaker 13: dog in your handed, sal a lot, doggy everything. Eighty
- 12:43Speaker 13: percent of adults look at it and do not greet
- 12:46Speaker 13: her back. No, eighty percent.
- 12:50Speaker 2: Of adults will not.
- 12:51Speaker 13: You will find the odd one in between that will
- 12:53Speaker 13: put a big smell on the face Allah baba or
- 12:56Speaker 13: hi baby, very proud and that makes the day. Eighty
- 12:59Speaker 13: percent of adults will actually look in the face and
- 13:02Speaker 13: not even greet her back. And it breaks a little
- 13:04Speaker 13: old every time she goes kiggy tanny nia, I love
- 13:07Speaker 13: seat and I don't say hello back. As adults, the
- 13:12Speaker 13: kids are learning from the adults the time I Markiti.
- 13:15Speaker 13: You will always greet an adult first. If you've greeted
- 13:18Speaker 13: them three times and they don't greet you back, you
- 13:20Speaker 13: never ever have to greet them again because respect also
- 13:23Speaker 13: earns respect.
- 13:24Speaker 3: Yeah, both ways, It goes both.
- 13:26Speaker 5: Ways, both ways.
- 13:27Speaker 13: And you know, a two year old breaks so hot
- 13:29Speaker 13: that she greets every single person, every person. She doesn't
- 13:33Speaker 13: skip one.
- 13:35Speaker 3: And it's because she sees you.
- 13:37Speaker 2: She says you, Josella, she says you do it. It's
- 13:39Speaker 2: the people around.
- 13:40Speaker 3: Her that creeds.
- 13:41Speaker 2: Because yes, you can teach a child, but the best
- 13:43Speaker 2: way to teach a child is to show them right
- 13:45Speaker 2: and when when when when your child says that you
- 13:47Speaker 2: create everyone? You could everyone trust me? So then later
- 13:50Speaker 2: they're going to start doing it. It's our fault. But
- 13:53Speaker 2: to be fair, there was a two year old. You're
- 13:55Speaker 2: never sure whether they're going.
- 13:56Speaker 1: To expect that you hit you like you know that
- 13:59Speaker 1: little thing?
- 14:00Speaker 3: How are you squearing up there?
- 14:05Speaker 2: Let's go to Germans then Francois de Joy, good morning,
- 14:08Speaker 2: welcome to an Ellen the Cloud.
- 14:10Speaker 5: And a good morning. It's front.
- 14:12Speaker 4: So yeah, strong strong name strong man. This is the
- 14:16Speaker 4: best name strong man.
- 14:19Speaker 5: I don't know how and so the time up, but yeah,
- 14:23Speaker 5: I was quite surprise. Unfortunately I do work for big company,
- 14:32Speaker 5: but deal was a lot of suppliers. Unfortunately I can't
- 14:37Speaker 5: always against the answered the phone or speak to them.
- 14:43Speaker 5: They're right where you should speak to a first person
- 14:47Speaker 5: because I've started a lot and yeah, and it's some
- 14:53Speaker 5: unfortunate unfortunately one of those things like yeah, but I
- 14:59Speaker 5: yell at you.
- 15:00Speaker 2: Say, but do you find that people are impatient with you?
- 15:03Speaker 3: Because it's not difficult to hear.
- 15:05Speaker 2: Somebody has a starter, right, and it's not difficult to
- 15:07Speaker 2: hear that there's a struggle happening. So you know, do
- 15:11Speaker 2: you find that people are like, hurry up, what's wrong
- 15:13Speaker 2: with you? Or do you find that a lot of
- 15:14Speaker 2: people let you and they give you the room for
- 15:17Speaker 2: you to find your words.
- 15:20Speaker 5: And I won't say that, I will say more like that,
- 15:24Speaker 5: but I patient. And then I can't understand why that
- 15:30Speaker 5: because to me them I look planning in some poets
- 15:37Speaker 5: of it's not nothing your own with me? But do
- 15:42Speaker 5: you have a small there's there's a bit palette. But yeah,
- 15:46Speaker 5: I don't see out can amolt me back? But yeah,
- 15:51Speaker 5: it's something that I to deal with for the past
- 15:56Speaker 5: forty seven years. And yeah, but one of those things.
- 16:03Speaker 5: And yeah, but find my struggle molus words that starts
- 16:10Speaker 5: with s.
- 16:11Speaker 4: L ah in. Yeah, but.
- 16:17Speaker 1: Thank you for your call, really thank you for your call,
- 16:20Speaker 1: because I can imagine it gets tough to have a
- 16:23Speaker 1: call like this on the radio, right, It's very difficult
- 16:25Speaker 1: and to the point about it to get because this
- 16:28Speaker 1: is the thing we also forget, right, we're not patient.
- 16:31Speaker 1: We don't give someone the time if you're not fast
- 16:35Speaker 1: on the phone, especially if I'm phoning you for something
- 16:39Speaker 1: irritated quickly.
- 16:40Speaker 2: The reason you don't have patience is because you're in
- 16:44Speaker 2: a rush to get what you want, but why are
- 16:46Speaker 2: you in a rush?
- 16:47Speaker 3: So now you're planning, Yeah, it's making.
- 16:50Speaker 2: It's much like we always say around people on the road,
- 16:52Speaker 2: where now you're speeding in a residential area, you're hooting
- 16:57Speaker 2: because you're in a rush. But why are you in
- 16:59Speaker 2: a rush? For your planning now is infringing all of
- 17:02Speaker 2: our piece. So in France, for Detroit's case, is that
- 17:05Speaker 2: when somebody doesn't want to give him that just how happening?
- 17:09Speaker 1: You know whoa no, I just want to say, I'm
- 17:12Speaker 1: so proud of this guy. Thank you right for phoning
- 17:15Speaker 1: a radio station. Yeah that's big man.
- 17:19Speaker 12: It's back to making your morning and La and the
- 17:23Speaker 12: Club on nine four seven