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NFL Week 5 Main Slate | October 4, 2025 | DraftKings & FanDuel DFS Picks, Plays and Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: What's up everyone? Kyler Tamberline here aka TOTEG and Tambo
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  Speaker 1: back for another edition of the main slate NFL Show
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  Speaker 1: Here on the Ship at Nation YouTube station. Week five,
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  Speaker 1: gonna break things down. We got ten games, gonna go
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  Speaker 1: through roster construction, ownership, game by game, break it all
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  Speaker 1: Now let's do it for NFL hoops to bring you
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  Speaker 1: in man ten games. What's going on?
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  Speaker 3: Oh? Excited for the slave but nothing. Nothing gets me
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  Speaker 3: going on a Sunday NFL morning like a title grinding
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  Speaker 3: the fucking camera over there. I mean that that really,
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  Speaker 3: that is the true sign. That is the true sign
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  Speaker 3: that it's Sunday morning. Hit that live off and then
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  Speaker 3: you get that finger right in the camera to get
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  Speaker 3: things started.
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  Speaker 4: So that gets me.
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  Speaker 3: That gets me pumped up. That gets me ready to
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  Speaker 3: go finally have some buys. So down to ten games,
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  Speaker 3: like you said that not full twelve very appealing spots.
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  Speaker 3: I think there's some sneaky spots that we'll kind of
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  Speaker 3: talk through. Many options. I mean, running back is absolutely loaded.
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  Speaker 3: We have wide receiver, always a ton of options at
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  Speaker 3: wide receiver. Tight end maybe a little bit weak, but
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  Speaker 3: man like, there are some really really good plays, especially
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  Speaker 3: at running back. So we'll talk through it. All excited
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  Speaker 3: to be here and excited to, you know, try to
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  Speaker 3: try to find that path to the top today.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll do a grand scheme over you in a second.
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  Speaker 1: But it just remind me when you did that hoop
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  Speaker 1: and then thinking a title. Anyone who knows the I
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  Speaker 1: think it's like acepin chure or whatever, where he's like
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  Speaker 1: in and he's peeking in there, that's like title with
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  Speaker 1: the camera right up here is based on that, just
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  Speaker 1: making its own thing. So title, what's going on? Maybe
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  Speaker 1: free money Sunday we're here?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I hope you got some three percent Josh Oliver
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  Speaker 5: to kick it off on the early ye know, every.
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  Speaker 1: Freaking showdown, Slate, backup, tight End Josh Oliver he's the guy.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, literally, my buddy was on the box. Yeah, from
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  Speaker 5: cam Acres there you go. Look capers a Josh. I
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  Speaker 5: have no clue, wasn't walking, but I did check my teams.
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  Speaker 5: I got three teams with Josh Oliver. So yeah, start
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  Speaker 5: the tight ends Fan and Oliver. I don't know if
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  Speaker 5: that's a setting up for tight End day. I don't
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  Speaker 5: know what's going on, but yeah, good slate ten games.
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  Speaker 5: It's just the running back room is starting to get
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  Speaker 5: a lot of injuries, so you just have a lot
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  Speaker 5: of cheap, miss priced starting running backs, which then opens
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  Speaker 5: up normal roster roster construction that leads very similarly. Why
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  Speaker 5: would you like punt the three K receiver or something
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  Speaker 5: when you can play a cheap four K running back.
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  Speaker 4: Now that's obviously the chalk build.
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  Speaker 5: You can do that to get different, but roster construction wise,
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  Speaker 5: I think it's pretty clear that way.
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  Speaker 1: Something super interesting. You said that it's kind of just,
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  Speaker 1: you know, funny but a joke at the same time.
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  Speaker 1: But like the is it tight end day? That is
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  Speaker 1: interesting because we always talk about the importance of a
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  Speaker 1: onesie position. Alex and I talked yesterday about finding a
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  Speaker 1: separator in your lineups. Well, this is a spot where
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  Speaker 1: there's like three tight ends that every but he's playing,
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  Speaker 1: and that could be seventy percent of the ownership at
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  Speaker 1: tight end. It feels like it's super high this week
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  Speaker 1: for the three tight ends, and we'll get to them throughout.
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  Speaker 1: But if you like a Dalton Schultz or something like that,
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  Speaker 1: maybe Hoopsters guy over there, anything else you like, should
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  Speaker 1: probably come in a lot lower owed this week, and
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  Speaker 1: that could be a way to make some of your
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  Speaker 1: popular stacks. Or you know, if you go with those
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  Speaker 1: chalkier running backs and whatnot, you can get different that way.
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  Speaker 1: Marcus comes in with the early good comment of the day.
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  Speaker 1: It costs zero dollars to hit the like button and
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  Speaker 1: subscribe true the thumbs up. That's good, and then says
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  Speaker 1: content a one steak sauce. I think he's putting a
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  Speaker 1: little inside joke on that, because you know, Whop needs
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  Speaker 1: some sauce with that well done shit. So that's what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying, Marcus. He knows we appreciate you being here. Jake,
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  Speaker 1: the take in the building, lots of good people in
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  Speaker 1: the chat. Awesome to see on a Sunday morning.
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  Speaker 3: Hoop.
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  Speaker 1: I mentioned the tight end thing. I think that's important.
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  Speaker 1: You mentioned some you know, a lot of running backs.
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  Speaker 1: That's definitely another thing. There's like seven or eight running backs.
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  Speaker 1: They can't all be thirty forty percent on like people
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  Speaker 1: try and assume in some cases, but you can mix
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  Speaker 1: and match those guys. I think there's just two or
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  Speaker 1: three games that people have sort of pinpointed it down
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  Speaker 1: for their stacks. Anything else from you for a grand
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  Speaker 1: scheme over you before we get started.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of people talking about the tight end stuff,
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  Speaker 3: like there's just not a lot of options. When you
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  Speaker 3: look at me, you look at running back and it's like, man,
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  Speaker 3: there's twelve fifteen guys that you could potentially play, so
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  Speaker 3: many running backs, so many cheap running backs. You get
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  Speaker 3: to tight end and then it's like okay, yeah, McBride, Warren,
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  Speaker 3: maybe Ferguson. Then after that, it's like, I really want
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  Speaker 3: to play some of these guys, So they got to
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  Speaker 3: keep that in mind to a lot of people are
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  Speaker 3: going to be thinking that as well, and I think
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  Speaker 3: a lot of it does go to Warren. A lot
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  Speaker 3: of sites have Warren projected straight up higher than McBride
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  Speaker 3: and cheaper. So what's going to happen. People are just
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  Speaker 3: going to play Warren like that give us an opportunity
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  Speaker 3: to play McBride. Well, the thing is people are still
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  Speaker 3: going to be playing McBride just because there's not many
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  Speaker 3: other options at the tight end position, so that is
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  Speaker 3: very important. And then running back, for sure, I mean
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  Speaker 3: nailing these cheap running backs. We have three very very cheap,
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  Speaker 3: under price running backs. Got it kind of nail the position.
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  Speaker 3: It's not like with running back with these cheap guys,
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  Speaker 3: like all right, you know, give us twelve or thirteen
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  Speaker 3: and we're good and we move on. I mean, you
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  Speaker 3: have a loaded mid tier that we'll talk about. There's
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  Speaker 3: guys in the five six K range that look very
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  Speaker 3: very nice. You get to the top and you have
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  Speaker 3: some absolute killers up there. You got Jonathan Taylor, you
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  Speaker 3: got a sham Without Tyreek, you got Jamir Gibbs up there.
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  Speaker 3: So like, if you're playing these cheap running backs, don't
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  Speaker 3: play them under the assumption that you just need like
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  Speaker 3: double digits from them. You need to nail the position.
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  Speaker 3: You need dudes that are gonna go off. So, yes,
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  Speaker 3: fine playing those cheap running backs, but I'm gonna be
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  Speaker 3: a little cautious with it because I just think you're
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  Speaker 3: gonna need a big score. There's so many guys that
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  Speaker 3: can go off. That's not even mentioning Jamir Gibbs. Where
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  Speaker 3: the Lions are projected to score thirty. You got Saquon
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  Speaker 3: who hasn't done anything all year. But you know, we
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  Speaker 3: know what Saquon Barkley is capable of doing. So Derek
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  Speaker 3: Henry as well, with no Lamar, no one's gonna play him.
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  Speaker 3: He can he can score, he can get us a
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  Speaker 3: hat trick any any game, like, he's done it multiple times,
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  Speaker 3: So got to be careful. I think with the running
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  Speaker 3: backs today.
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  Speaker 1: Title, I want to ask you this question. I think
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  Speaker 1: you know it's interesting, but ten games we go down
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  Speaker 1: to the running backs. Yes, Like I love hoops point
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  Speaker 1: there because if you've got the cheap running back, it
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  Speaker 1: makes other stuff work. Sure, but also you want the
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  Speaker 1: best possible score when you have only three spots maximum
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  Speaker 1: that you can use, like our boy n Aids, I
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  Speaker 1: just pulled up the comment said probably a three running
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  Speaker 1: back day and the chalk builds. Yeah, like, for sure
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people are playing that. But do you
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  Speaker 1: think there's a chance here that this could be a
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  Speaker 1: lower scoring slate based on less games? Less there's no
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  Speaker 1: like fifty five point total, like some crazy game that's
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  Speaker 1: in the afternoon that everyone's focused on. And then because
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  Speaker 1: it is a little bit condensed around, at least the
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  Speaker 1: stacking of stuff, it does feel to me like it
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  Speaker 1: could be a lower scoring slate, in which case you'd
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  Speaker 1: really want to be find those ceiling scores that pop
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  Speaker 1: it are needed because the more of those you can
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  Speaker 1: fit into your line with, the better you have. Any
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  Speaker 1: thoughts around that and then anything else for your grand
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  Speaker 1: scheme overview.
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  Speaker 5: I could see it mainly like I don't really see
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  Speaker 5: the running back room having a low ish score. I
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  Speaker 5: think it would be the receivers, and then we don't
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  Speaker 5: like if Warren and McBride don't really get there, there's
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  Speaker 5: not too many appealing options there, so I think it
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  Speaker 5: would just be more you see running backs with flames
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  Speaker 5: or get there, and then quarterbacks maybe just get you
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  Speaker 5: low twenties, no receivers going off for like twenty seven
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  Speaker 5: plus and you do get it lower scoring there.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, I could see that for sure.
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  Speaker 1: And the other thing I've seen a lot this week again,
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  Speaker 1: anything can literally anything can happen. It's NFL, it's DFS,
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  Speaker 1: tons of things can go your way. But I think
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  Speaker 1: you do still need to think about the slate as
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  Speaker 1: a whole, and that's why we do the grand scheme overview.
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  Speaker 1: Like I see a lot of people saying, let's just
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  Speaker 1: play two tight ends. Could that get there? Yes, but
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  Speaker 1: it goes almost similar to what Hoop had mentioned earlier,
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  Speaker 1: just in a bit of a different way. It's like
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  Speaker 1: you better hope that tight end is breaking out, that
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  Speaker 1: third running back that could be in that lineup, or
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  Speaker 1: that extra receiver in a game stack or anything like that.
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  Speaker 1: So I definitely think it's possible. Anything is, but it's
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  Speaker 1: way less likely when you have certain slate dynamics. Hoop,
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  Speaker 1: anything else you got. If not, we are going to
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  Speaker 1: start at the first game. It is the Texans at
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  Speaker 1: the Ravens. You mentioned it, No Lamar Jackson for the Ravens,
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  Speaker 1: and it's actually moved to the Texans being a favorite
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  Speaker 1: now at this point, I'm currently seeing them as a
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  Speaker 1: one point favorite. On the road in Baltimore.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just uh, someone found the ace Ventura Jeff
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  Speaker 3: online and tagged us, so I retweeted it and tagged
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  Speaker 3: the whole crew. But it's literally perfect guy.
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  Speaker 1: Face on that. We got all this AI show Yes
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  Speaker 1: title with the camera and moving his finger and there.
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  Speaker 3: Before the end of the show. Someone needs to get
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  Speaker 3: that with titles face with like the finger pointing out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, let him at the finger while he's doing the
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  Speaker 1: swoop movement. Just get titled with his finger in there.
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  Speaker 1: It'll be the best. We'll use it for centuries to come. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we'll be living for two hundred years now.
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  Speaker 3: That could be the new show opener, right, Yeah, we
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  Speaker 3: can put that camera back up here.
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  Speaker 4: Now that's not happening. I'm too tilted with that thing.
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  Speaker 3: Oh it's too good, all right, Sorry. I was discracted
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  Speaker 3: by which game Houston.
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  Speaker 1: Houston at Baltimore. Baltimore is now an underdog at home
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  Speaker 1: in this game, Cooper rush at the helm and let
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  Speaker 1: you mention it could be Dereck Henry Day we'll see.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean it's probably a tough spot for Baltimore. I
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  Speaker 3: mean you look at a lot of these teams and
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  Speaker 3: you know, the backup quarterbacks can come in and you
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  Speaker 3: really don't need to change all that much. Well, you know,
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  Speaker 3: with Lamar Jackson, probably doesn't matter who it is, but
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  Speaker 3: maybe a running quarterback would be a little bit of
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  Speaker 3: a less change. But going to Cooper Rush, they're gonna
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  Speaker 3: have to change everything today obviously, and that's why they
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  Speaker 3: find themselves as underdogs at home to the Houston Texans.
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  Speaker 3: So in terms of fantasy, you know what can we
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  Speaker 3: do here? Derek Henry should be very low owned. I
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  Speaker 3: mean there's a path where they just give him the
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  Speaker 3: ball a ton In my one P fifty, I want
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  Speaker 3: to make sure I have some Dereck Henry like he
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  Speaker 3: again can can nuke any slate at any time with
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  Speaker 3: three touchdowns, so him at like no ownership interested. They're
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  Speaker 3: gonna have to pass it more. I mean, Zay Flower,
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  Speaker 3: these are definitely uncomfortable plays, but they're going to be
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  Speaker 3: very low But it's not like they have a quarterback
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  Speaker 3: that's gonna run the ball ten times. Are gonna have
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  Speaker 3: to pass and if they are playing from behind them.
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  Speaker 3: I have to pass a little bit more. So I
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  Speaker 3: do like a little bit of Zay Flowers and then
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  Speaker 3: you know, maybe tight ends week, maybe a little Mark
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  Speaker 3: Andrews on the Texans side. You know, great call to
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  Speaker 3: tur guy title last week with with Woody Marks. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it looks like he's taking over that position. The problem
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  Speaker 3: this week though, is like, man, he's gonna have to
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  Speaker 3: there's a lot of competition at running back. We've talked
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  Speaker 3: about a ton so far in the show, and he's
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  Speaker 3: gonna have to put up a real big boy score,
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  Speaker 3: I think, And it's possible, but I probably want to
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  Speaker 3: have much just because those other other guys are in
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  Speaker 3: better spots and cheaper. And then Nico Collins, I think
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  Speaker 3: he can play every week, and I don't think he'll
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  Speaker 3: be particularly high owned by any means, so I think
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  Speaker 3: he's a fine option as well. But these are all
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  Speaker 3: low on plays. I would say everything he's gonna be
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  Speaker 3: low on. Even I think Go College probably gets squeezed
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  Speaker 3: a little bit. So yeah, I don't I don't mind
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  Speaker 3: getting I guess it depends how many teams are building.
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  Speaker 3: If you're building a lot, I would definitely get some
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  Speaker 3: exposure to to both sides of this a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think title this one's interesting. This stuff gets
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  Speaker 1: brought up all the time. It helps when you used
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  Speaker 1: to be in the same division as them and you
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  Speaker 1: would play them twice a year for for guy like
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  Speaker 1: Henry to get these games against them. But I do
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  Speaker 1: think it is interesting, and I actually still there is
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  Speaker 1: There is no Homer on this. I'm just telling you
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  Speaker 1: that the Ravens win these. This is what happens. The
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  Speaker 1: Ravens win when you don't think they're going to win
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  Speaker 1: and you know, Cooper Rush sucks and there's no way
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  Speaker 1: and all the Ravens d has been so bad, et cetera,
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  Speaker 1: et cetera. Like the Ravens are at home as an underdog.
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  Speaker 1: They're better in Baltimore. Anyway, this is just the type
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  Speaker 1: of spot and I still see them coming out with
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  Speaker 1: the win here. But what's your thoughts on this game
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  Speaker 1: for DFS perspective.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I really don't like the game. It's the lowest
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  Speaker 5: total on the slate, the coop said. When I mean
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  Speaker 5: just pretty like pretty bad on the organization. The fact
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  Speaker 5: of most teams do have a backup quarterback Jayden Dan Kiels,
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  Speaker 5: all right, you got Mariota, Like, you don't have to
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  Speaker 5: change the whole scheme. I mean, Cooper rushes a statue
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  Speaker 5: versus I'm moving quarterback. I think they're just going to
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  Speaker 5: try and take the air out of the football. Run
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  Speaker 5: it with Derrick Henry, play action, easy throws, milk the game,
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  Speaker 5: and if that's the case, I don't want it. Woody
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  Speaker 5: Marx is my favorite in this game. For sure. He
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  Speaker 5: can catch passes. The problem is the running back room
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  Speaker 5: is so loaded. But if he does what he did
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  Speaker 5: last week, I'll promise you you'll take that score. His
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  Speaker 5: ownership has to be very low. Ravens defense has been atrocious.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if you have any takes on how
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  Speaker 5: they get better or if they will by the end
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  Speaker 5: of the year, but I'm tired of watching this team
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  Speaker 5: just get walked on every single possession. Woody marks or nothing,
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  Speaker 5: and I'm kind of leaning the nothing side in this game.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Derrick Henry for me. I'm sticking with my
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  Speaker 1: plan here. Again, it's totally different no matter how you
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  Speaker 1: see the game play out of it. I mean, you
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  Speaker 1: have to think about that when you're building your lineups.
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  Speaker 1: But if you've got the first of all, Texans d
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  Speaker 1: is super popular, So give me the Ravens going up
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  Speaker 1: against that. Which is going to be the best spot
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  Speaker 1: for me is Derrick Henry. Second of all, the O
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  Speaker 1: line got a little bit healthier, and that's how the
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  Speaker 1: get the way the d's typically get better. Again, player wise,
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  Speaker 1: they need the players to come back, but the way
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  Speaker 1: they typically get better, it really helps. When you have
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  Speaker 1: a lead in a game, you can be ahead, you
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  Speaker 1: can make them play from behind you, all those sort
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  Speaker 1: of things. So I'm just hoping that it goes that way.
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  Speaker 1: Like Hoop said, the time Derrick Henry goes off is
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  Speaker 1: not because he is playing Houston and has stats from
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  Speaker 1: back in the day or anything like that. Usually the
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  Speaker 1: time Derrick Henry goes off is when nobody wants him
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  Speaker 1: and nobody's playing him, and then they're like, wow, look
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  Speaker 1: think about after the late ends. How many times you
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  Speaker 1: look back and been like, oh, seven k Derrick Henry
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  Speaker 1: at home, no Lamar Jackson, Texans d chalk and like
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  Speaker 1: five percent of the field wanted him. Oh and he
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  Speaker 1: scored two touchdowns. That's when I wanted Derrick Henry. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I like the spot I don't have a ton otherwise.
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  Speaker 1: I think like if you want to stack Stroud Collins
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: Kirk with Derrick Henry or Zay or something like that
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: and do it. I know, my man ham On FanDuel
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: got me a little bit interested in that, the pricing
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: and whatnot, but not super high on this game. But
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: when I'm in this game, I'm gonna be on Derrick
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: Henry and I like that spot going up against the defense.
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: It's a little but popular. All right, Hoop, I'll go
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: back to you Dolphins at the Panthers up next.
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you know a game where again we
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: have some injury stuff on both sides. I mean no
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: Tyreek on the Miami side and then no Chewba Hubbard
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: on the Carolina side, which opens up some value for sure.
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: You know the the Dolphins are projected to score twenty three.
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: It's not a massive number, but it's pretty big, i'd
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: say on the slate. And you know, this isn't going
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: to be like a defensive battle. I don't think between
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: these teams. So I think it is an interesting game,
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: and I think you have clear plays on both sides.
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: I mean on the Miami side a chan I think,
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: especially on dk is, you know, probably the strongest, strongest play,
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: so many outs to get there. Kind of talks about
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: him all season the same same sense. It's like he
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: can get there in any sort of game script. If
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: they're playing from behind, he can get eight catches, if
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: they're playing with the lead, he gets the goal on work.
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: And then obviously if it's in a neutral situation, going
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: to be out there as well. So just a very
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: safe play and a lot of outs for him. No, Tyreek,
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: I'm very interested in Wattle fifty four hundred, and then
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: like fifty eight hundred on FanDuel, he's their wide receiver one.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: He's been able to produce in this sort of role,
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: so I'm good with him. And then Lake Washington's already
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: had a pretty big role all season long, like he's
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: been a part of this offense. Now he's going to
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: slide into wide receiver two and cheap you know, probably
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: my favorite cheap wide receiver on the slate. And then
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: you know, Darren Waller came back, looked good, caught a
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: couple of touchdowns week position interested there panther side. No Hubbard,
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: Rico Dodo I think is totally fine. Forty three hundred
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: very very cheap. But again, I'm gonna keep saying this
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: about these cheap running backs. He got envision them getting
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: upper teams to twenty I think today, and I do
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: think Rico can get there. But it's no slam dunk.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: We wouldn't be surprised at the end of the day
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: if he ends up with five. You know, that wouldn't
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: be a surprise by any start of the imagination. But
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: gonna play him, but he's gonna have to produce. And
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: then Tet McMillan is great. I think great runback. You know,
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: I think this game's perfect for like a secondary stack
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: like cause I don't really want to play these quarterbacks
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: all that much. So you know, a Chan and McMillan together,
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: Waddle and Rico together, maybe even a two to one
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: secondary like a Chan Washington with Tet McMillan. Like this game.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: A part of this game is going to be on
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: the winner, I think today, and I'm gonna have a
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: lot of all those pieces that I kind of mentioned.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: I think it's a very good game, but I don't
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: want to use the quarterbacks.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: Okay, I think the more if I'm going the quarterback
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: side in this one, I would be going Bryce Young
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: like Bryce Tet Tommy Tremble. I'm fine with that, and
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: I like the a couple of interesting things from just
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: the even a secondary stack that's a little bit different
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: if you need a cheaper one like the Doubtle. He
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: was already getting work with Hubbard in there and now
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: he's gonna be without. And again it's small favorite at home.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Whatever they are, they even still favorites. I mean at
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: one point I think I saw them there one point, Yeah,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: they're not. It flipped the other way on my book.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Now any Miami's up to one. They started the week
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: as a one and a half point favorite. But either way,
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: we know a Chan is super popular in this So
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: I think the other thing you brought up, though, Whop
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: that I think is really solid is with Malik Washington,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: another guy on the other side that you know automatically.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Of course, Waddell's gonna be the new wide receiver one
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: because there's no Tyreek Hill, and that's just the way
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: the depth chart goes. But that's also oftentimes we can
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: see this where that doesn't always mean they become the
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: wide receiver one in the sense of the defense just
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: locks in on that and all of a sudden, the
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: other guy, Washington becomes the guy that's wide open at
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: thirty nine hundred. So you could have like a doubt
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: old Washington secondary stack in this and get different that way.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: But the biggest thing on this one title, I think
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: is with a Chan, whether or not you fully believe
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: that's the exact ownership that we're gonna see on him,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: but it does seem like he's super popular. If that's
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: the case. The way that I said today, like you
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: can slice and dice it is if you go to
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: the other side and just use him in a stack
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: like Bryce Young Ted a Chan something like that, and
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: if you want to add Tremble and do it that
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: way too, you could do it that. You could go
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: that route. But what's your thoughts on a Chan and
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: then the rest of this game?
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean A Chan's Minnie McCaffrey in the sense
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: that he can just be so inefficient on the ground
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: even through the air and get there with seven catches
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: with how this offense is designed, and even more so
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: without Tyreek, like they're gonna need to get him the
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: ball in space even more so, I think it's a
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: very strong play, but by no means there's no such
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: thing as a lock in pretty much any sport. But
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: with how good the running back room is, he gets
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: you twenty one. Kind of like the point who keeps
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: saying like if I knew he was getting twenty one
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: on this late at ownership, I would be way under
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: if not have none, I would bet on your three percent.
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: Derrick Henry getting the box twice, Gibbs JT. There's just
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: so many guys, but he has that thirty five point
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: upside where I don't want to fade it. You can
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: use it as a one off skinny sax, so many
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: ways to do it. I'm worried that Tech McMillan's going
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: to be my Drake London for three years where I
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: just keep playing this dude every week.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: The underlying metrics look.
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: Good, the ownership's not really there, the price is fine,
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: good game environment, but man, he just hasn't gotten in
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: the box yet. He just hasn't had that game where
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: you need him. I'm gonna keep doing it today. Rico's chalk.
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: You get the pivot right there if you want to
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: do it that way. If he scores and it's not Rico,
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: you can get a leg up the field. You can
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: play a Chan chalk. On the other side, I'm definitely
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: playing it a lot of ways to do it. If
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: you want to just go wattle tet, I'm good with
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: that as well. Those are the clear, clear four plays
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: A Chan, Rico, Wattle Tet. I think A Chan is
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: clearly the best Washington. I was going back and forth
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: on I just came back to like a the snaps
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: he and Westbrook A Kine had the same amount of
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: snaps last week. Then on a slate where we have
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: Micha Oh, Carter, Rashad White, Rico good running back plays
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: like I mentioned earlier, is receiving props twenty seven and
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: a half yards like man, I don't really know. Let's
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: see what his touchdown prop was too.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: I just like it was a one off.
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: I was plus three sixty. Yeah, I agree with you.
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: I guess he speed up the game, play them in
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: a game a game stack. I guess, yeah, I agree.
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: I don't love it though, I don't love it.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I got to cook my man Aaron right
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: quick for two seconds. You got to listen to these
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: shows carefully. This has been a really popular show. People
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: are liking how we're breaking this down. We are definitely
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: not saying don't secondary stack. It's clear that there are
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: certain people that play the most common secondary stack on
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: the slate that would likely be better in a game stack,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: and so it's very certain secondary stacks. You definitely still
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: want a secondary stack. We're talking about specific ones on
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: that show as a way that people can start to
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: recognize that that's not something that people look at dfs
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: in a way of that being important. And the example
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: was Reeese, Hall and Pickens. It can still work, as
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: we said, but the idea of those two actually hit
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: their ceiling game and we'll get to that game later.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: It's likely that you're getting crushed by someone that has
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Dack with Pickens or fields with Hall with Wilson with Pickens,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: and someone's usually coming up over the top, and that's
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: going to really hurt your secondary stack. Versus like whop
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: mentioned in this one, you could easily put like a
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: doubtle with somebody from the other side, and that's just
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: you don't see the quarterbacks being the guys that get
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: you all the way there. But you could still see
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: young Waddle or like doubt a Waddle or something like
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: that come through for you. So I think hopefully that
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: makes it more clear title. I'll stay with you. We
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: got Raiders at the Colts. Interesting one here. It looks like,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: you know, obviously Warren is going to be popular, but
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: we have Ferguson who could pull from him a little
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: bit later for one hundred bucks more. And then we
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: also have Jonathan Taylor I think you know, specifically on
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: DraftKings at just eight K, where you know, if you're
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: paying up at running back, he's one of the first
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: ones that come to mind. What's your thoughts on this
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Raiders Colts game?
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, JT's role this year is just it's
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: unbeatable pretty much. McCaffrey's up there too, but ninety two
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: and a half rushing prop minus two to forty five
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: to score. He doesn't come off the field great game
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: environments like he just slammed on play again if he's
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: if I knew, he scored twenty one or twenty two
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: at ownership, though, I'm going to bet on some of
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: these other pivots up top not to get there.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: A lot of ways to play him, though, No.
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: Brock Bauers is obviously big for the Raiders in the
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: sense of like Jacoby's ownership even went up more. I
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: think Trey Tucker after last week, I mean two weeks
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: ago the nuke, everyone wanted to play him last week
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: kind of how salary worked out as a chiep, we
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: didn't have many. Now people aren't gonna go there four
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: to seven. He has one play, big time upside as
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: we saw. So I think he is interesting, especially because,
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: like I'll let you guys talk about, I'm not gonna
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: call him pennies, dimes, dollars, whatever you want to say,
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: But if you are on that side playing Daniel Jones,
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: I think Trey Tucker is a great runback.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: Again, Jacoby will be the owned one, but.
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: If this game really speeds up, Trey Tucker has that
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: home run ability. So back to like you said with Washington,
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: I definitely prefer Tucker when I am playing this game
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: a lot. Tyler Warren is nothing bad to say. I mean,
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: any tight end that when they got in the red
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: zone will get two handoffs.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: That's what he had.
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: He legit had two handoffs and he scored on one
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: of them. If you're that involved in your role is
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: that big, especially when it gets inside the twenty, you
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: definitely have interest. He's clearly miss price argue one of
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: the most mispriced players. I'm the slate at four point
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: seven K. With that being said, it's a onesie position
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: and all it really takes is someone cheaper, just one
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: guy I was scoring in by four or five. I
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: don't know how many two tight end bills I have.
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna play a lot of Warren, but I don't.
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: I'm struggling. I'm like, just how much Warren JT on
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: the same team do I want? If I do that,
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: then I played Jacoby. Well, now I just played all
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: the chalk, like you're saying, in a secondary stack. If
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: I'm doing that, I might as well just add in
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: a quarterback, which Daniel Jones would be my favorite to
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: do that. So I've struggled with so many ways ago
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: about it build a portfolio. I like the idea of
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: just JT and hoping it's a running game if you
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: do it that way, But if you're starting to play
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: the tuckers and stuff, I would just go all in
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: on the game environment.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, I think That's where I'm at with
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: it too. Like the Colts do have a pretty big
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: team total at home here, and that's whe the Jonathan
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Taylor stuff the props are just off the page. If
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: I can get to JT, I'm just pushing them into
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: my lineups. It's fine ways you can mix and match,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: like you can get the Colts d because most people
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: landing in that range, like the Detroit at Sincy or
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: they Arizona at Tennessee, all for good reasons, but there's
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: other options there that just has to keep them in check.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: So that's a way to do it where you're not
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: on Warren NJT. If I'm stacking it up, maybe I'm
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: going Danny Dallas with Pittman with Warren and then bringing
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: it back. One most interesting thing, Hoop, I'll kick it
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: to you now is everybody wanted fifty four hundred dollars
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Myers last week. He disappointed everyone. Now nobody really wants
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: He's like what ten percent. Maybe that we see Myers
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: come in at and no one really wants Trey Tucker
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Bowers is doubtful, So we don't even have him in
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: there right now because he Meyer's already out. They've already
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: called up Alberto or whatever as another backup tight end
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: beyond Thomas and the other guys. So I don't know.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: It does look like there's a possibility we could see
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: some back and forth here. What do you think of
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: this game?
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Hoop?
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, with the Colt side, I mean, yeah, it's clear
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor, Warren at tight end, they're gonna probably be
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: the highest ooned guys at their respective positions. Taylor obviously
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: has more competition because there's more running backs, but like,
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: nothing really to add Like, I think they're great plays.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: I'm good with Daniel Jones and then you know some
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: Pittman and downs I think is fine win stacking. So
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: they're all good plays. I'm going to have a lot
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: of them, and you know cool with that.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: The interesting part to me is definitely on the Raiders side.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: And I think you kind of talked about it. If
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: we had this brock Bauers news on Wednesday that he
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: wasn't going to play, Jacobe Myers is probably one of
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: the highestone guys on the site. People are left with
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: not as much time to react. He's still going to
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: get up there. It's going to be higher than the ten.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's going to increase for sure, but even
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: with that being said, it's going to be lower than
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: it would have been if we got this news. Earlier
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: in the week, and I think he's a really really
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: strong option. I mean, who else are they going to
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: throw the ball to. It's like him and Trey Tucker.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: So I want Trey Tucker as well. I want a
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: lot of trade Tucker. So Myers and Tucker I think
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: are phenomenal, phenomenal plays in all formats. You know, if
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: this line does hold true and the Raiders are playing
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: from behind like we've seen them, they're willing just to
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: chuck the ball. Like if they chuck the ball, where
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: is it going? Like it has to go to those two.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: So I'm really in on the Myers and Tucker stuff
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: here today. All the Colts pieces are I think strong.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I want you if I am playing Daniel
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Jones and Warren and then you know, mixing in the
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: wide receive wide receiver, I want like Myers and Tucker
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: on the other side. I think they're both phenomenal plays.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: They're not gonna throw the ball ten times to Albert Oh,
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: I can guarantee you that. So I think Myers and
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: Tucker are very strong options.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we just saw this. Our man Sheets get second
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: in the Millie a couple of weeks ago. With this
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: pretty much the exact spot is the other team crushed.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: They you know, put up forty something and I don't
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: know if the Colts will do that, but they That's
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: what happened, and it was Gino with three pass catchers today.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: It makes it even easier to go Geno two pass catchers.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: If you want to just go with Myers and Tucker,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: you want to add in Thornton or something like that,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: I get it, but you just can roll them because
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: they will just throw the ball a ton. Whether or
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: not it works out, we'll wait see. But definitely a
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: way that you can get there if you had like Geno, Myers, Tucker,
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Taylor or Pittman and use up and then get different
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: at the running back spots. If you think this game
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: can go back and forth, there's definite ways to chop
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: it up and get different. So yeah, I like that
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: call out actually, And that's another interesting way that you
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: could go about using this game, because it's like to say,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: this is one of the games that's not really being
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: talked about as much. I do agree that chat is
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: talking about. Shut up to our guy go collect who
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: said it here, he said, yeah, seeing Steam now with
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Myers this morning, looks like people want to play him
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: now with the Bowers news. That's that's definitely true. And
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: go Collect will be joining us Monday on the takedown breakdown.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: So excited for him. Also, Adam Thiele added it in
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: and Adam teal Man, I'm excited. So's he's got the
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: share ship. He's on our Golden ship at number sixteen
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: winner and he came correct. The golden cores is on
• 28:48
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• 28:49
  Speaker 3: The first one path Man, I like the path, Yeah,
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: you see it.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: It's like this one is million dollar upside. Some of
• 28:54
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  Speaker 3: We'll go.
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  Speaker 1: Giants at the Saints, Uh.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: Not a very appealing game. I mean, low total in
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: this one, sitting at forty two and a half, obviously
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: no Molik neighbors out for the season, kind of you know,
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: kind of pulls away the appeal of the Giants offense.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: It looked good while it lasted, but it didn't last
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: for long. Although I mean, Dart's definitely an upgrade to
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: Dusty as Russell Wilson like man. That was easy decision
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: for them to you know, separate from his ass In
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: terms of this game, though, like the Saints, I think
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: can have some success offensively. This is like a classic
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: I won't call it like a letdown spot, but the
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: Giants off a big high beating the Chargers. You know,
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: Chargers were basically seven point favorites, so they got the
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: big upset. Now they travel on the road to New Orleans,
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: who looks like one of the worst teams in the NFL.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: But this is like the best spot New Orleans has
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: had basically all season long. I think it's a good
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: spot for New Orleans and even their offense to have
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: some success. Like I built an initial set of teams
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: and it included some Spencer Ratler, which is not a
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: comfortable feeling. But man, it's like there are pieces here,
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: like a lave Shaheed Juan Johnson. Is he good to go?
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Like I said, you know what about Taysom Hill is back?
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: Three K Hill's back. Yeah, So that's like somewhat annoying
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: from a fantasy perspective, and I'm sure he'll do something
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: stupid to kill the appeal of this offense. But I
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: think it's an interesting spot for the Saints in terms
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: of runbacks. You got them, Like if you want Scataboo,
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: you want Wandelle Robinson. I think he's fine. I guess
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: it kind of stops there. It's it's pretty pretty crappy
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: after that. So like, I'm not actively searching out Saints exposure,
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: but in my one fifty as it stands now, I
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: have some and I'm good with it. I'll let it run.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: I'm letting it run. I'll tell you this, I'll get
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: the title and I'll give you this stee in a second.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: But man, the other thing is, so there's just a
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: very easy way to speed this game up. And it's
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: in the Dome in in New Orleans. It's Darius Sprig,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: the Slaton and the guy that let us all down
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: last week, Shahed. And so if you go Dart Slayton Shahed,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: you can fit anything you want and just hope that
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: those two both get the bomb and that will really
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: pay those spots off. And then you've got Dart, who's
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: just I don't know. I thought he was fine. Plus,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: by the way, the Saints d might be the most
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: popular on the slate because there's just twenty two hundred
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: and people assume that's a great spot.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: Move it up.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: You know, no neighbors on the other side Robinson can
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: do things. He's in the slot. He can catch ten
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: balls for forty yards just catching for four and drop,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: catching foreur and drop and then eventually do something. But
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Dart Slayton, Theo Johnson at the tight end,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: and another tight end spot you could fill out via
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: a stack instead of the popular tight ends. Shahed on
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: the other side, I mean, Olave got a touchdown last
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: week and still barely crack ten. So it's a sad
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: scene for our guy over there. And that's like him
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: and Wandale are so similar in that. But if you go,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: uh Slayton and Shahed and she broke our hearts last week,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: I do feel that's a possibility. You could go Dart
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: scat Slatan Shaheed really try, I just spit it all.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: But scat six k all the running backs on this
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: slate makes a little bit tricky title. What's your thoughts
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: here in this game? Obviously not the highest total, but
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: could see how it can speed up a little bit.
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm a little different my preferred ways to go scat.
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: I don't love this game much, but what so Dart
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: look good? The problem with me playing Dart is then
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: I have to pair him with someone and you don't
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: even have to. I should take that back his rushing
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: prop thirty four and a half yards, like he's clearly
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: he has designed rushing plays for him, which then makes
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: it trickier, like if it's not Slayton Wandale and you
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: can't miss obviously in tournament, So you play Wandale, dark
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: gets there, but Wandal gets you six your toast or
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: Slatan or whatever it is that way, So I just
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: struggle playing Dart with people. Saint ste is popular, but
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: there's gonna be plenty of opportunity for sacks because Dart
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: will bounce around back there and try and make plays,
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: which can lead to mistakes. The reason I like Scats
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: is he's minus one time to score. He's clearly taken
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: over the role. I think the read option with Dart's
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: ability to use his leg like the defense has to
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: prepare for that. There's more holes when you run a
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: read option with the d end or someone having to sit.
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: So I like that for Scat. And then his price
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: at six K, you go up a little bit. Hampton's
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: gonna be plenty more owned of course, hm JT if
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: you go down a little bit, Breeze Hall will be
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: a lot more owned, and then there's other guys down
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: that there are shod whites of the world. So I
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: just think he falls in a dead zone in a
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: close game where if he falls in the box twice
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: he can easily get there that way. I still don't
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: love this game, though, Like, oh man, my next favorite
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: plays a lave, but I really don't know, Like the
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: dude was negative for half the game and then he
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: catches the one touchdown to get nothing. All the targets
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: are there, though the Giants d's been bad. If there
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: was ever a spot where a Lave has his game,
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: today's the day. But I'd totally get what you're saying
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: with Shaheed. If I were to like stack this game,
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: I'm almost, I think, surely playing Shaheed because that's the
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: one play sixty yards two percent ownership, and then Dart's
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: got to play catch up for the Dart side. Personally,
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: if I if I were just stack this game and
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: play quarterback, I think I like Darton is rushing upside,
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: hope that Shaheed or someone pushes it and then.
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: You get it that way. But I won't have too
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: much of this one.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Who this was probably too old for title. But do
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: you remember this movie Wild Things with like Denise Richards
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: or something Back in the day, Junior came in and
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: that this is the best three ways since Wild Things.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: It's like, Buddy, I forget who else is in at
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: the actors, but he's like in the pool he got
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: these two girls. It's like a three way back in
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: the day. Was like, oh man, that's crazy. That's an
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: old movie though. Man shout out to Junior for that memory.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: All right, no.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: Offense, no offense to your fellows. I love you, like
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: like like we're family. But man, if I'm in that scenario,
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: it ain't gonna be a two dudes exactly.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: The movie reference was good though, But and this is
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: the thing, like I said, the only way to me, like,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: the only way this happens is if this happens, meaning
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: this game becomes a thing, is if you get that
• 35:54
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• 35:56
  Speaker 1: Steele said, see people remember this one. Yeah, but yeah,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: the only way The thing about Scat though is like
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: they did try and jam him so many times last week,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: he could be he could be the two touchdown guy.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Title we get scatted at the Box twice today. That
• 36:09
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• 36:11
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  Speaker 5: This is what I've came after, like the first two
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  Speaker 5: we thought, like, I'm like, I'm done punting these garbage
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  Speaker 5: defenses that get me three. There's a Vikings week when
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  Speaker 5: on it much or so much variance, but it's a
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  Speaker 5: I think that just gets completely overthought. At least I
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll add into like again, just there's not
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  Speaker 1: enough to going into it outside again. It is the
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: super high variance position, but there's not enough thoughts from
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: the leverage angles going into it, and I keep using
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: the example, but like when Jordan Mason is gonna be
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: for thirty five percent on but nobody wants the defense,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: It's like if he goes off, that puts the defense
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: in a spot to be more successful. It's not really
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: the old running back DST thing that everybody thinks, but
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: it's the same thing today. Like if if you really
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: think Cooper Rush is gonna have a bad day and
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: the O line even being back there doesn't help Derrick
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Henry and nothing goes your way and it's gonna be Houston,
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Well then don't you think that would put Houston in
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: a pretty good position. Maybe then it's with Woody Marks
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: and maybe he's running it a bunch to then kill
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: the clock down, or you know some of these other
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: positions and spots that you see, like if why are
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: the Saints the highestone just because like you said, they
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: can just punt to them. That's why, like Dark runs
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: it a bunch, There's tons of ways to move it around.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Go ahead.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: The reason is just because there's no corruct answer really
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: ever at defense, and there's no research process to get
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: you you can look at the D line in the
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: O line stuff. I know a lot of people think
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: they have the answer that way, and it's just no
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: correct answer, Like whoever the top defense is or just
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: something that goes off you just kind of need them,
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: and it's so fluky the way they can get there
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: with you know, punt returns or kickoff returns, and there's
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: just no research process to get you on the right one.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: Like last week, you know who it was, it the Texans, Right,
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: we're popular, I believe I can't. Yeah Texans, yeah, and
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: they did well, but you know the lines did I
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: think better because they had a touchdown. It's just it's
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: it's very hard to research the position and come up
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: with the right answer because any given week, I don't
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: think there really is a correct answer.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: It's it usually ends up being leveraged. We do the
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: takedown breakdown every Monday, review it every Monday and look
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: at it. Also, it almost always ends up being something
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: that you're like, that's what it correlates with or went against,
• 39:53
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  Speaker 1: handbuilders or whatever you're doing, I would certainly be considering
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: that last like, there's so many different ways. If a
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: defense helps you get the guy that you needed so
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: you don't have to punt an additional position, there's going
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: to be some way to think about it. Or you
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: might have more money to spend because another move suits
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: your lineup better. But there's a ton of different ways
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: to get different. With the great points there by you title,
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: let's move on to I'll stay with you, We'll go
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: Cowboys at the Jets. This is the big game that
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: everybody's talking about based on, you know, the situation stuff.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Obviously it's the field's day, right, we're having it out there.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: We got Garrett Wilson who just pairs easily Breeze Hallway
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: too cheap with brayln Allen ol Out Pickens on the
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: other side, No Lamb Jake Ferguson. We know that he
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: always gets one hundred targets per game when Lamb is out,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: so that's got to be thrown into the mix. But yeah,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: this is the game that everybody's targeting. What's your thoughts
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: on this one and how we get different?
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: It's a money game. I think the way to get
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: different is it's very easy to get different because, like
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: people will be played. Everyone you play will be played
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: in this game. But there's so many different ways to go.
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: If you played Dak, who is already going to be
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: pretty low on himself, you got Pickens, of you got
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: Ferg if you want to double it. But Jalen Tolvert,
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: he's a very cheap receiver that I definitely be playing.
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: He's the clear wide receiver too in this offense opposite Pickens.
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: That's gonna get all like the defense is going to
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: be worried about. Like I prefer Tolbert to Washington because
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: I prefer this game more and again, you're flipping the bill.
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: You're getting a cheap receiver when you don't need to
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: do that at all. It can allow you to spend
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: at running back a lot more. And you're playing in
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: this game if you want to like bree Chalk, but
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: you go Tolbert on the other side, if you want
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: to play the Dak stuff, there's so many ways to
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: do it. So Javonte Williams, I'm struggling, like, I don't
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: know if he's going to be twenty percent. I get it,
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: he's minus one for Yeah, I agree with you, Hoop.
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: I just think the range is too loaded with Breese
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: right there with Hampton, with the Whites, the JT's if
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: he moon walks back to like thirteen percent. Maybe that's
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: one way to play this game if you're if you
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: don't have like too much exposure because there's gonna be ownership. Breese,
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: Garrett Wilson, Pickens Fields so many plays that way. If
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: it busts, I think it's like Javonte just rushes into
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: where they get six yards of pop and slow the
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: game down a lot. I don't love Jamonte if I'm
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: trying to game sack this game as much. But then
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: so I build a portfolio lineups, then it's Pickens, Garrett
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: Wilson for Tolbert. The one guy definitely will be playing
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: some too when I'm playing Fields is Mason Taylor. I mean,
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: this guy was the clear checkdown in the middle of
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: the field, especially when they're trailing, Like it was just
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: free points for him on Monday Night. So my favorite
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: way to play Fields. Everyone's gonna go Garrett Wilson. You
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: had a point, you post it on Twitter, and I
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: know Rio has in his core, so I'll give out
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: for the premium side Breese Hall and justin Fields, you
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: just get all the scoring that way, Breese can catch passes.
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: But I really like Mason Taylor when I'm playing at
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: chalky fields in the middle of the field that no
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: one's really gonna go to.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like that call quite a bit. I also think that,
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: you know, somebody asked us earlier about what game was
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: that we were on. Oh, I think it was on
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: the Raiders game. They say, would Gens be the leverage
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: again like last week? No, because nobody wants anything else.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Even if the late steam hits, which it is slightly.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: We're seeing that on Jacoby Myers. It's not on everybody there.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: I would say for sure this week's genty. If it's
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: going to be someone is gonna be Javonte Williams, it's
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: gonna be this spot. It's he's not gonna be what
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: the ownership gets spread out and it's all calculator. But
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: we know certain guys steam and certain guys moonwalk backwards.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: That's obviously our guy Djen always had that with the
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: golf stuff, and you can take it just as easily
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: to the NFL stuff. So that's something we always talk about.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: This is definitely that spot. But what's not going to
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: moonwalk is the pickens the Ferga I mean Ferguson could
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: actually go up. He could steam even further than what
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: I'm seeing right now. So this would be the spot
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: where you would be more likely to see it, I think.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: And Javonte fits that mold actually think he's the same
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: price wasn't Gent sixty two hundred last week in the
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: exact spot, So maybe it works out that way too.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: But I see, I could see that being a thing.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Our guy Tom Brady is gray super sharp DFS player.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: He had a good one here. I know he's somewhat joking,
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: but the two touchdown Javonte thing he said three two
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: could definitely be a thing. And I think that this
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: week if we see something like that, who it could
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: be Javante. But tons of other ways to get different
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: within this game.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: With the Javante thing, it was.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: That was close a million dollar mut that was that
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: wasn't not that was confirmed. We were talking.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: I was talking to the kids. I was talking. I
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: was talking to the kids first before I dove into
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: the game. I was joking. I just get definitely caught
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: on mute and hopefully it leads to good things. So
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: this is this is a good game, and the Javonte
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: Williams thing has to come down a little bit. I agree
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: with you said what you said. There's a couple other
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: two running backs like who else was Like Saquon has
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: to get like squeezed here today as well. We haven't
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: gotten to that game yet, but his has to come down.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: But Javante, I think is definitely closer to twelve to
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: fifteen range just kind of has to be. But like
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: this is a good game. I mean Field is gonna
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: get ownership, Dak isn't. Like you know, I initially I'm
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: on both of them for sure, but like for my
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: main teams, like I'm fine just going back to deck
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: and no, I did not wear the jersey today and
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: like people talk shit, like last time I was on deck,
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: he ended up getting twenty six or something. It was
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: in that Giants game he got there for us back
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: on today, Like neither of these teams really played defenses.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: Could be an absolute shootout, Like, yes, there are some
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: obvious plays, Like I think Fields gets a lot of ownership.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: I think Breessee Hall does get some ownership. Garrett Wilson
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: probably gets some ownership. But there's different things we can
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: do within this game, like the Mason Taylor thing. I
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: think that's a phenomenal call at a position where there's
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: like obvious plays at tight end like with Tyler Warren
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: and McBride, that people aren't gonna look at Taylor. I
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: think Taylor is really good. Like I love what I saw.
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: I had a great connection with Fields. Ferguson, I think
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: is definitely he's gonna get some ownership, but it will,
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: it will get held in check. He's priced right there
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: with Tyler Warren on both sites. And if people aren't
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: stacking and they're just looking for a tight end and
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: they have that sort of mind, like who are they
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: gonna click Warren or Ferguson, I think most are picking
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: Warren over Ferguson, So I think you know he's a
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: solid option. Pick Ins Tolbert fine plays, so you got
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: you got guys at every like these are the games
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: I like where you have plays at every position, you
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: can overstack, you can do things a little bit different
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: within your stacks, like so many different options. Now, who
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: are the popular plays in this game? Like fields? But
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: we what do we know about quarterback? It always gets
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: spread out, so it's never gonna be due a point
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: where you have to avoid your favorite quarterback. That's the
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: case with fields today. Yeah, he's gonna get owned, but
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: there's a cap on it because people play so many
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: different quarterbacks. Breese Hall is gonna get owned, but we
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: have those four really really cheap running backs that people
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: are gonna play. It's gonna get held in check. Garrett Wilson,
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: I think gets ownership. But we have a ton of
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: wide receivers. So I don't think there's anything to really
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: worry about here in terms of ownership. And uh, I
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: think we can can fire away at you know, every
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: position really in this game. So I like it a ton.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is so true. I mean, this one keeps
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: coming up, and I'll say, like, I still prefer Ferguson
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: in a game stack or with you know, with Dak
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: and all that. And now I know you're not saying
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: not to do that, Daniels, but I will say that
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: it's his next favorite safety valve, Like just he yes,
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: he can get a ton of targets. We've seen it
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: in the past. He can get you ten targets sixty
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: yards no touchdown, and that's probably not doing it. And
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: then that you're the slate's getting crushed everywhere else at
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: tight End because like I say, it's all in on
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: Ferguson Taylor or sorry, Ferguson Warren and probably McBride when
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: we get there. That's like sixty to seventy percent of
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: the tight End ownership, So that wouldn't be enough. So
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: just like again, safety doesn't always mean ceiling, and we're
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: gonna need stuff today, and again we'll see tight End.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: Maybe you don't end up needing a ceiling, but if
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: you have that separator there, it's most certainly going to
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: help because I think there's just such an abundance of
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: running backs on the slate. Like Coop said, you'll need
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: the three with the better scores, but if they all
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: have twenty to twenty five, then it's like there's tons
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: of combinations of those fitting together and then all the
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: other stuff has to happen. So I'll have to wait
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: and see. But I think the way I like it
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: the most here is the Dak side. I like Dak,
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: and then maybe even three guys with him, and then
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: you can run it back with Breeze Hall, who I
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: think is in a great spot, or you can go
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson, or you can mix them all in whatever
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: you want to do. But I definitely like the Dak
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: side more and I like stacking it up. And that's
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: why in a portfolio, when I'm not in this spot,
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: I will definitely be interested in Javonte Williams. He reminds
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: me a lot for anybody who has the stone at
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: Ship Nation. He reminds me a lot of the Bijon
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: Robinson spot last week. I already gave the gente example
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: of why that would make sense, like there's people aren't
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: going away from these plays in this game. But the
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: Bijon Robinson spot last week was we saw his optimal rate,
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: we recognize that he's probably not going to be that
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: ownership and he's one of the more likely candidates to
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: moonwalk back, and then that just makes it even better.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: So I could see that this week in this spot.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: So I'm thinking about in my non Dak lineup and
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: all you could stack him too with Dak when I'm
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: saying my non Dak lineups to move to that spot
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: a little bit more this week after the fact title
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: back to you man, Broncos at the Eagles. We talked
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: about Barkley a little bit there a minute ago, and
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: Whop mentioned him as well. But any any thoughts on
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: the Broncos at the Eagles.
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, partly any And I want to just touch
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: on this quick, like I think the ownership's probably double
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: if this game was in Dallas, so I mean you're
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: getting it's all baked in projection props ownership.
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: It'd be a nuke spot.
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: If they were at home, this whole game would be
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: even high round. As far as this game, I really
• 49:27
  Speaker 5: have nothing.
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: I like. Eagles defense is just a team I really
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: don't like to pick on pretty much.
• 49:32
  Speaker 5: Ever, So that takes almost everything out from the Broncos side.
• 49:35
  Speaker 5: Dobbins Harvey not a split, but there's two running backs
• 49:38
  Speaker 5: to worry about. Sutton is a grown man, he's fine,
• 49:41
  Speaker 5: but there's so many good receivers the other side.
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: This offense has just been so bad.
• 49:46
  Speaker 5: I mean, I know they're beat up up front, but
• 49:48
  Speaker 5: like there was a stat I think Levitam posted on Monday,
• 49:52
  Speaker 5: just like the yards per contact that he's been like
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: hit like first contact last year versus this year, and
• 49:58
  Speaker 5: it was like two yards difference. I mean, you're getting
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: hit one point seven yards downfield. It's really hard to
• 50:03
  Speaker 5: be explosive and good for fantasy AJ Brown gets certain's
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: gonna be shadowing all day. It's a ten games slate,
• 50:10
  Speaker 5: like I can at this game go off?
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: Are there good like real life football players in it?
• 50:15
  Speaker 5: Of course the matchups seem really tough, though I can
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: pick plenty of other spots like Cowboys Jets. Look at
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: those guys they're trotting out on defense. I'd just rather
• 50:24
  Speaker 5: target other spots. So nothing really for me, saquon. If
• 50:27
  Speaker 5: anybody give.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: Me a prop thing right quick? Here, give me a
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: what do we got for Dallas Godter catches and yards parlay?
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: What do we got and what's the number?
• 50:38
  Speaker 5: So we got three and a half little juice on
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: the under for his receiving receptions prop and then he
• 50:45
  Speaker 5: is thirty one and a half.
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: Receiving yards, and what do we get for that? I'll
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: have to go on my phone. I'm not logged in,
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: so you go too.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: I'll let Hoop take it over. I got a bet
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: for you, Hoop, I gotta bet for you. It's that's
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: the one. We gotta just get the odds to the people.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: That's my today. I got the over on the yards,
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: over on the catches parlay, Dallas Goddard whatever, title gets
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: it out to like that.
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I.
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: Mean not much on the Broncos side. I mean the Eagles.
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: I mean they're just fine, winning ugly, ugly games and
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: very good defense. And you know, maybe some Sutton if
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: you are playing like Eagles stack, you'd be the only
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: one that I would kind of kind of play on
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: the Broncos side.
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: Eagles.
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: It is tough, but like I think Saquon's ownership comes
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: back a little bit. I think it definitely comes back.
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: People are spending. They're not spending on Saquon, so fine
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: with him as like an in ownership sort of play.
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: And really the offense as well, like Jalen Hurts gonna
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: be low owned, like they won a slate. It was
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: it week two or week three, like they still have
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: the upside. I think it was him with Goddard, So
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: I mean on it like aj Brown six K, I'm
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: going to play some should be low owned. I just
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: at this low of ownership. These guys are are so
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: talented where I'm going to play some like in my
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: one fifty portfolio sort of play. You know, if I
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: was handbuilding, I'm probably not getting here. But within my portfolio,
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: I do want some some Philly stuff just gonna be
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: super low and so not super exciting excited to do it,
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: but I'm in just because they're low loaned.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that was the same thing Ham would sell
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: me on. That was Hertz Brown Goddard and you run
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: it back with Sutton and again, is that gonna happen?
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: Probably not, But that's a that's a way different stack
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: than anybody has on this slate. It's like a powerhouse
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: where if that did come through, that could end up
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: being like five touchdowns across the board. Quarterback goes off,
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: runs it in. I like the Saquon call quite a
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: bit more, though, I think again, just he's a guy
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: at seventy five hundred on DraftKings, even at eighty five,
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: he's a thousand less than jt On on FanDuel, And
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: it's just easier to fit at that point, right, ninety
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: five hundred dollars running back in Jonathan Taylor on FanDuel
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: really hard to fit eighty five hundred on FanDuel a
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: little bit better. And then seventy five hundred on DraftKings
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: two hundred bucks more than eight Chan at maybe one
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: third of the ownership and at home in a spot
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: where we could see it happen, so I don't mind it.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: And what what are the Barkley props? I saw you
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: put up the plus one thirty? What's the what's the
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: Barkley props for two touchdowns?
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: Plus three sixty?
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: Okay, you want to know when we get to the
• 53:23
  Speaker 5: Montgomery props? Oh my gosh, like the narrative steam on
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: that has been insane.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: Well, his sister's there watching him play, So what I mean.
• 53:31
  Speaker 5: He's not like minus one ninety something like plus two fifty?
• 53:34
  Speaker 5: Did I see to score two? Like the dumbest We
• 53:36
  Speaker 5: talk about it every week, but I'm not. I mean,
• 53:38
  Speaker 5: he probably gets in minus one eighty plus two seventy.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: You have to be smart. You have to bet the
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: three touchdowns because he was already getting two and now
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: his sister's there, so he's getting three because he has
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: to get one extra one for that reason. Of course
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: that's how that's how narratives work.
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well you're gonna say, saque something else?
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: Is just what was his any time to start in?
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: His yardage is? Any time?
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: Was what?
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: I just say?
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: Minus minus one for five? Pretty low? Is yardage on
• 54:08
  Speaker 5: the ground is eighty one and a half I just know.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: I didn't look up a Chan either, but I like,
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know how different it's just to me, it's
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: like it's probably one third the ownership is what.
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: It's the catches that that a Chan owns.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: Rack goes up for sure, but I mean that could
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: be a race too, if a second touchdown or something
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: like that for Barkley and who knows. So I think
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: it's going to be interesting to see how the whole
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: slade actually plays out, but I do think this could
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: be part of it. And the Eagles at home. I
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: like the Goddard call too, I mentioned earlier though. If
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: you want a separator, I definitely like that bet. Even
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: at plus one thirty just yeah, just three and a
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: half and thirty one something yards or something like that.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: I think they're just gonna find him over the middle
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: of bunch, and so I think he's going to be
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: an option that could just start racking up the points
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: and the catches, whop anything else. Anything you want to
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: add on this one, or if not, we can go
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: to Titans at Cardinals.
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: Not much to add to this one either. Titans are
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: just tough, man it is. It is not a fun
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: team to click and I don't think I'll be clicking
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: any of it, so it makes it easy on the
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: cardinal side. Apparently, you know, obviously down all their running
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: backs Michael Carter four k on on DK, but they
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: did say they plan on using the hot hand approach
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: or whatever that means. I mean, still still playable, still fine.
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: I don't mind a little Marvin Harrison. I'm gonna play Kyler,
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: so I don't mind a little Marvin Harrison. And then
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: Trey McBride.
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: I think is fine.
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think Tyler Warren probably is higher owned
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: than than McBride. To me, McBride's still tight end one.
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: So I want some McBride, but nothing too crazy here,
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: No Titans. I'm gonna play some Kyler, I'm gonna play
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: some Marvin Harrison, I'm gonna play some McBride, and I'm
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: gonna play some Michael Carter and nothing exciting in this
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: one for me.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. These These are the backup running
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: backs where it's like it's just tough for me. And
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: then again, they didn't get any ownership. People thought at
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: the start of the week they were gonna be popular.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: There's just no way when there's like nine other running
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: backs on the slate, and like Hoop said perfectly earlier,
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: you have to get the full outcome from these guys,
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: and they could each other's lunch, like all those different factors.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: So I think the Cardinals d is gonna be something
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: like I don't know. I think it comes down a
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: little bit from the ownership we're seeing. Actually could see
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: McBride's ownership coming down a little bit, but he's still
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: gonna be massively owned. I'm just saying just because it's
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: the other two guys in Ferguson and in Warren that
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: people just seem to want a lot more of and
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: maybe they're just moving away from this game. But that's
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: why I like what Hoop said. If you are going
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: to go to this spot, I think it's like Kyler McBride,
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: Kyler Harrison McBride, whatever you want to do, and then
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: you don't even need to run it back. You can
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: just shut it down on the other side title, Do
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: you got anything you want to add in this one?
• 56:45
  Speaker 5: No, I'm on the same page. I like Kyler quite
• 56:47
  Speaker 5: a bit. Just ownership's not showing for one of the
• 56:50
  Speaker 5: higher team totals against one of the worst team in
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: football like something eight and a half point favorites are
• 56:56
  Speaker 5: expected to score.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: Narrative we can get in here.
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I mean McBride's a stud.
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: If he finds the box, like he almost always gets
• 57:06
  Speaker 5: there at a weak ish tight end position, it's only
• 57:08
  Speaker 5: a handful of guys that feel good, so he's the
• 57:10
  Speaker 5: easy pairing. And seeing Marvin Harrison around like five percent,
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: the price is still super low.
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: He has his.
• 57:16
  Speaker 5: Games like, I mean, he can look so bad the
• 57:19
  Speaker 5: Seahawks in the first half. I mean he stops on
• 57:22
  Speaker 5: his row drop all this, and he still gets at
• 57:24
  Speaker 5: eighteen because Kyler keeps going back to him. Marvin Harrison
• 57:28
  Speaker 5: easily has two touchdown upside in a spot like this
• 57:30
  Speaker 5: at very low ownership, Kyler's not going to be very owned.
• 57:34
  Speaker 5: Then you don't even have to worry about the running
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: back room because I'm concerned. Like the props plus one
• 57:38
  Speaker 5: thirty for Carter to score, plus two to sixty for deMercado,
• 57:41
  Speaker 5: then you go to the receiving yards. Deemercado's a little
• 57:44
  Speaker 5: ahead of Michael Carter. I mean, I'm not even convissed.
• 57:48
  Speaker 5: Deemercado is the one that scored the touchdown when Trey
• 57:50
  Speaker 5: Benson was healthy in the Seattle game on that Thursday night,
• 57:54
  Speaker 5: it was the late drives and Deemercato is getting all
• 57:56
  Speaker 5: the passing work.
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: I'm worried.
• 57:58
  Speaker 5: Michael Carter's a little fellow. You can't miss that running back.
• 58:02
  Speaker 5: I really don't love it. That's kind of why I
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: just want to go to the passing game, and that's
• 58:05
  Speaker 5: how I hope they score their points, and ownership outside
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: of McBride's just not there, so I like it.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess the other thing you could do, because
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: Kenny brought up a good point here, like it is
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: hard to see it, but it's a yeah. Usually it's
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: gonna be him with his legs or something like that,
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: and so just get lucky inside the end zone red
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: zone area. But you could do something like Kyler McBride
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: and the Cardinals d and just hope that Kyler does
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: enough on the ground, a little bit of something on
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: the ground, maybe runs when in it's not that one
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: of those running backs he gets a couple to just
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: McBride or McBride gets the ten one hundred and five
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: and a touchdown and it's solid enough and then the
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: defense just tease off. That would be another different way
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: to play it. It's like a mini on slought of
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: if you're just rolling three guys, not four or five,
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: but you're just gonna run the triple and just hope
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: that they just team up and go against these Titans
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: and crush, so that that'd be the other way I
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: would think about running something like that. I'd all stay
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: with you. I think this is the second of the
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: afternoon games. Yeah, we're getting to it now. Bucks at
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: the Seahawks looks like JSN. You know, Rashad White, that
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: little combo pack could be popular. But at least JSN
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: at the seventy one hundred dollars price tag seems to
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: be getting a bunch of even one off love this
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: week too, So thoughts on this game Bucks at the Seahawks.
• 59:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean JSN, Rashad White looks strong. They already
• 59:20
  Speaker 5: came out inside. Rashad White will get most of the work.
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: There is still Sean Tucker and they mentioned some other
• 59:24
  Speaker 5: random name they want to get a work or two.
• 59:27
  Speaker 5: I'm still gonna approach it like it's Rashad White's backfield.
• 59:30
  Speaker 5: I don't really love. I mean JSN just the receiving
• 59:33
  Speaker 5: room without Jeffery there's a lot of good receivers not
• 59:36
  Speaker 5: on this slate. Also, just with the quarterback injuries at
• 59:39
  Speaker 5: the receiver position, these top guys just haven't been like
• 59:43
  Speaker 5: that outside of Puka, who's obviously not on the slate,
• 59:45
  Speaker 5: but his target chair at seven to one on a
• 59:48
  Speaker 5: full point site is really really strong.
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: Outside of those two, though, I've really struggled.
• 59:53
  Speaker 5: I'm debating on what to do with Abuka, Like he
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: can't be owned. He has a very tough matchup, but
• 59:59
  Speaker 5: it which just one of those guys that I could
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 5: maybe just be overweight every single week. He has no competition.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 5: He seems to always be open. Baker obviously likes him,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 5: and it's a way to maybe just go get different
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 5: in a skinny stack. You play JSN instead of going
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 5: white like everyone else does, you go with Buka and
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 5: you get some leverage there. So I've been going back
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 5: and forth, curious here your thoughts. So again, match up
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 5: on paper, very tough, bet on talent production's been there.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: You can easily see them. So yeah, it's those three.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: Really Yeah, I think it's going to be stacking in
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: this game, as you know, a way to get there,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: Like that's the whole setup it's like if you want
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: to go to the Baker's side, I think it's like
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: a Buka auton. You can put me Sean White in
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: there as well, and that's a definite different way to
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: play JSN. I also think there's a possibility of if
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: you want to roll like Kenneth Walker here, there's just
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: so many running backs on this slate already that it's tricky,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: but that he's obviously big leverage off of JSN both sites,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: because on FanDuel, JSN is eighty five hundred, Kenneth Walker
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: only sixty seven. So if you really want some of
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: this or you're thinking of that, it's a way to
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: do that. Because it looks like you can still pretty
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: easily get to JSN on FanDuel, and it seems like
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: people are, and especially because Rashaun White is so popular,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: He's only five hundred dollars more on FanDuel than DraftKings.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: That little two player combo secondary sack is popping up
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: a bunch more So JSN is interesting. I mean, kevinth
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: Walker is interesting hoop, but I think it's more like
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: a leverage play on FanDuel, where he's only four hundred
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: bucks more than his DraftKings price and he's way lower
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: owned than JSN.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Walkers, I'm I'm just out on that, Like
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: there's so many running back plays like man like I
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: just keep going back, Like I want a guy that's
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: gonna get like a majority of the work today and
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: have the ability to put up big score. I mean, yeah,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: walker can can still put up big score, even splitting
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: a little bit, but I just I don't see it
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: on this late. Like the only thing I'm playing on
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: the Seattle side is like what everyone else is playing,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: and that's JSN, And I don't mind a little darn
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: old he's cheap, like I keep him in the player pool.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: So but mostly JSI seventy dk is is way too cheap,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: and like you said, the eighty five on FanDuel, probably
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: a little more of a decision where you know he
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: really benefits from like full PPR DK scoring on the
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: Tampa side, Rasha White out of all those cheap running backs,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: by far my favorite. He's looked very good this year.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: He's been in an RB one sort of role in
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: the past. He knows what it's all about. He has
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: past catching up side. I think he's a really really
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: good play today at his price tag better on on
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: DK where he has more outs with the full PPR,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: he can brack up a lot of receptions, which you
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: know obviously scores a little better there. But I think
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: he's a really strong player on both sites. BOK, I'll
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: be in on. I mean, he's gonna be low owned,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: and the guy just continues to get the job done.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: And I know there are some comments with with Godwin,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: what was it ten targets last week? They're playing from behind,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: like he's going to continue to get the word oyah,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: ten targets. I mean obviously not on the same page,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: only converted three of those, but ten targets is a
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: big number if they're playing from behind, could be the same.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: So yeah, man, on this my favorite play for sure,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: and it's it's what everyone's thinking in this game, Rashad
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: White and JSN, But you know, it is what it is,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: and I like them both. But I really do like White,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: Like I said, I think of all the cheap running backs,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: to me, he's by far the best.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, darnold JSN with Rashad White, you could wrap it
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: up that way maybe, but man, it's uh, there's just
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: there's two other games that I would still talk about
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: here in a minute, that I would stack before this
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: one too. But on the FanDuel side, like I said,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: it's definitely interesting with the Baker stuff and then the
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: Ken the thing about Kenth Walker at least it's somewhat interesting.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: And again it's way more of a FanDuel thing for me,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: So I'm just talking for both sites. I know some
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: people like when we bring up the other side and
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: we don't do a full round up at the end,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: but it's like you're that's the whole point of the
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: build is if Rashad White is going to be super
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: popul he's gonna be. I think he's more popular on
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: Fandal than he is the DraftKings. The ownership doesn't fully
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: dictate it. It's it's tricky sometimes, but I just the
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: way the builds go from what I've seen, it's noticeable
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: in that it's you're saying that that's not the way
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: it's going to go. So when you already flip Walker in,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: it's it's you are getting leveraged too on the fact
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: that you're moving against the running back, well still moving
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: off the wide receiver on the same team that is
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: super popular. But again I like these last two games
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: even better. So let's let's move to those.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: Hoop.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: I'll stay with you. It's your Detroit Lions in Cincinnati
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: going up against the Bengals, and this is what a
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: thirty point team total on the road for the Lions
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: something like that. We've seen this play out before, so
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: let's see what you think of this. But big time
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: favorites going into to go against the Bengals.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean this is one of those, I guess
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: probably unique spots where teams projected to score thirty, you know,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: maybe a little a little south of thirty actual points
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: and you know it's not going to be super super popular,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: like it's it's kind of unique, I would say. And
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: you a team that is willing to run up the score,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: which we've seen this season, like they're going to continue
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: to push the pace all the way through and not
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: slow down. So I think there's an opportunity here to
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: take advantage of that situation. You know, Jared Goff, I've
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: shipped on the guy, and I guess you know I've
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: taken L So I'm done kind of taking the l's
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: but going to be low owned and has like multiple
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: ways to stack them and they're projected to score thirty.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: You can play them with the manra Jamis and Williams
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: at forty nine hundred, way too cheap. Sam Laporta again
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: like he hasn't had big games, but he has the capability.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: Now the price is only forty two hundred. You compare
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: him with the running back in Jamior Gibbs, who on
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: his own is a good play at seventy seven. I think,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: you know, if people are spending, it's a chan and
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: then Jonathan Taylor and Gibbs is not going to be
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: super low owned, but he's going to be lower than
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: those guys. I think he's a phenomenal play. You guys
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: have already touched on the David Montgomery stuff. You know,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: whatever that will situation is, you guys can touch on
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: it again. But you know, he could score multiple touchdowns here.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: But again it's like even with David Montgomery, like he's
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: got us probably score two. I mean, there's a lot
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: of guys in really good spots here. He doesn't really
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: touch passes all that often, so he's got to do
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: some big problem clearly is the run back. I don't
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: think you even have to I mean, even if you
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: go Lions onslought. I don't think you necessarily need to
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: run back a Bengals guy. It's looks so so bad.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: But you know, if you're you're still into the Jamar
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: Chase thing, he's going to be very very low owned today,
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: and you can go that route. But I probably wouldn't
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: go anywhere else. But I think the Lions are in
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: a unique spot projected to score thirty and you know,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: when you take that into consideration, I think relatively low
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: owned compared to their team total.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: Zim got you in the chat keep shitting on golf
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: so we can use him.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, it's worked out well
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: after week one.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, title, the sharp move here is just to overstack
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: the game, right like you just have you know golf
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: Amanra jameson Williams Laporta, who can definitely really bust this
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: tight end slate up. Today we talked about just those
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: other guys that are just a little bit more money.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: You get to Warren, you get to Ferguson, you got
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: other options there. I talked about Goddard at forty one hundred,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: but you got Laporta right here in this game, and
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: then you don't even have to run it back or
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: you could right, you could go Jamar Chase Higgins, whatever,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: But you know what's your thoughts on this game? Lions
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: at the Bengals, big team total for the Lions.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I am thinking that if I do go golf
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 5: and I play like two pass catchers, I probably want
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 5: a Bengal just for the sense of I'm expecting the
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 5: Lions then to be putting up thirty five plus or something,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 5: and then if the Bengals are going to drop back
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 5: every play, you have Chase, you have Higgins, like what
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 5: they can just get there on PPR alone. Chase is
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 5: my preferred play man. It's the offensive line and stuff
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 5: so bad. I don't think Browning's terrible, and I think,
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 5: I mean it's been clear Jamar Chase is his favorite guy.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: There's enough value on the slate to make it work.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 5: So if I am onslaughting it, I do prefer running
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 5: back and I do prefer Chase Jamison Williams.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: I mean, man, if anyone watched that game.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 5: Last week, he could have had thirty two easily if
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 5: they could. I mean, they were so close on multiple
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 5: home run plays, like he's gonna get his soon. I
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 5: know he had it one week. I really like Jmo
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 5: for the price. Laport is another one guy almost never play,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 5: but like a tight end room that's so concentrated right
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 5: now on McBride and Warren and then Ferd like he's
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 5: the pivot of the pivot of the pivot and they're
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 5: implied for thirty points against a bad defense. So I
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 5: think he's strong. There's nothing bad to say about Amenra.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 5: The targets are there. It's easy to play him. Gibbs
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 5: like he's going to be in check. It's the same
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 5: thing with the Lions every week, like they're always implied
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 5: for a bunch of points, but they have a whole
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 5: plthorough of guys, including a head coach that'll get his
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 5: offensive linement and left tackle in the box sometimes.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 4: So it's just really tough to stack him. But you
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 4: tough is good.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 5: I mean, that's why the ownership is more condensed than
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 5: it would be if it's a or more spread out
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 5: than it don't only as if there was two guys.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 5: So when they do completely go off, they always seem
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 5: to be like single digits or low teens. So I
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 5: do want a decent amount of Lions. I just I
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 5: don't know maybe I just what are your thoughts. I
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 5: guess you prefer the oversacking than just playing Jamison Williams
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 5: and hoping it's him or Gibbs and hoping it's him
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 5: or just one of these guys is a one off.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if I'm not oversacking, it's gonna be more likely
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: to just be like Gibbs and the Lions D and.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 4: Just I like Lions D again.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well they were fine last week. You had the
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: great call on them. So yeah, the thing here this
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: week is they're still getting squeezed in between other people
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: want Indy at home, which makes sense. I like that
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: with Jonathan Taylor. And then also Arizona's up against Tennessee,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: so it's like you're getting all the way up there,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: why not and Tennessee just gets crushed. So I think
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: it's at least as somewhat interesting spot to go back
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: to the Lions here and Gibbs and Montgomery. Can you
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: know it could be either of them?
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: Sure?
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: The slate to me is there's too many running back
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: options for it to be both. I know the chack
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: keeps talking about that. I think on paper it could
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: be both, Like you could do a Gibbs Montgomery anytime
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: touchdown parlay and put that together, they both could score
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: a touchdown. It's what Hoop said though earlier. Who's gonna
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: be actually needed in the setup of all the points
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: and when they're gonna have a chance to cannibalize each other,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: that's gonna be the problem there. I think the overstack
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: is interesting too, like you mentioned you posed to me,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: but like the chat's talking about it and I had
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: to go look it up because I didn't think it
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: was right. The GoF doesn't get there when his guys
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: do twenty six, twenty six, forty one, thirty five, twenty five,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: twenty seven just had thirty one, like like the guy
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: always gets it, Like he has all kinds of points
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: with his dudes, and if they're the ones racking them up.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: This is what I said to Mayo on Friday. If
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: you got Jamison Williams getting one hundred and fifty yards
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: in a touchdown, that's a touchdown for goff and halfway
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: to the yardage bonus, and we're just getting started. They're
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: putting up thirty forty points probably, so that's where that
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: comes from. And again, different ways you could play it,
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: but just saying if you are gonna overstack it. I
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: like that, and I think there is some sort of
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: keep up on the other side. Even Alex on the
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: Leverage Lane show yesterday, he was talking about Browning Chase
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: Higgins and then run it back. It's a bit more aggressive,
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: but Browning will just have to drop back right. And
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: that's why I like, like I said earlier with Gibbs
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: and the Lions d and stuff like that too, I
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: think he has to.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 4: He has I'm doing that.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 5: I'm playing two Lions and just hoping they get up
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 5: fourteen nothing six minutes in and then brown and like
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 5: I can see it. I'm like I saw Naids. We
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 5: always like messing with our man Aids. I mean, I'm
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 5: not saying I'm gonna really be playing it, but the
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 5: path is clearly there, and it like they could get
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 5: blown out by twenty one, but they just got behind
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 5: so early that it was just thirteen catches, nine catches
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 5: and they both score a touchdown.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: They're fantasy points. They racked up. We talked about sheets. Example,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: they got blown out. The Raiders got blown out that
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: week and only Trey Tucker did anything. Bowers and Myers
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: in his lineup didn't even do shit, but they still
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: put up enough because they just dropped back and through
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: it a million times, and you rack up points for
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: that's that's all. We're playing a fantasy points game. It's
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: like we talked about the d's earlier. People are out
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: there looking for show for shutouts, like, yeah, that's an
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: added bonus and nice. But even Houston last week with
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: the shutout was eighteen points because there was not much
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: else that went with it. It was just the sacks
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: and the few things that racked up. So it's like,
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: you need to have fantasy points. We're playing a fantasy
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: points game. I hope people know that by now. But
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: it's like it can rack up even in a giant
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: l here, and there is ways to wrap this game
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: up and make it a pretty big one. Any anything
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: else you got their title?
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 4: Nope?
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: Hoop? Anything else you want to add to that one?
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: If not, hoop, I'll let you take us to the
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: final game of the slate. The Commanders at the Chargers
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: another interesting one actually in my eyes, and I'll talk
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: more on in a minute. But anything else there, hoop?
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: If not Commanders are Chargers.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: I've kind of zoned out there for a minute. If
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: someone started mentioning Browning doubles. Are we done with that?
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 4: Now?
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: Are we done talking about that? Because I literally blocked out.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: If it wins, though, we get to clip that and
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: bring you back in and say with the part where
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: you zoned out and then the money hits of it.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, it would be a great clip. But man,
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: I might be willing just to pay out the millie
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: at that point. We'll do a double double millie if
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: if Browning doubles win, I'll pay out the highest ship
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: at nation number with the Browning doubles.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I'm talking about golf numbers and he by
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: the way, I'm a guy. I don't even have to
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: look this one up. He played more than four games
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: last season, so there's a lot of golf stats out
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: there that you can find.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: That was a crazy story yesterday with Mark Sanchez. That
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: was wild, man, absolutely wild. It hasn't been many details
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: or videos or anything coming out, but man, I'm curious
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: to see how that whole thing plays out. Just insane.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just getting more and more wild, like the word
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: to hash or something like the driver. I don't know,
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: two wilds, but crazy.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the last game, I think I think it's a
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: solid game, like Jade Daniels coming back, they say, no restrictions.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: Terry McLaurin out, I'm interested in this. I mean, if
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: we assume Jayden Daniels is one hundred percent or ninety percent,
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: Like what if we knew he was one hundred percent,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: there's no injury, we're on this slate this week. He's
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: seven K, Like he would be massively owned, Like he
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: would probably be the highest. He'd be right there with
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: with fields in terms of ownership because of the running
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: rushing floor and whatnot, Like he would be way up there. Well,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: now there's some injury concerns and they said he's wearing
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: a brace, and now no one wants to play him.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: We're showing whereas that we're showing four percent ownership on him. Like, man,
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: I gotta be I gotta be overweight on that situation.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: And it's easy to play them. It's like you don't
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: have a ton of options. It's like you're playing with Debo,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: you're playing with zach Ertz. Or play him naked and
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: hope he scores two touchdowns. So I'm gonna be doing
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: all that. Like I'm fine playing them without any pass catchers.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: I'm fine playing them with Deebo. I'm fine playing with
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: Ertz and then you have a lot of runbacks on
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: the other side, like Hampton, three wide receivers, Quintin Johnson.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: Maybe can we go back to call them McConkey mcaukie
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: the donkey at this point or should I wait? Because
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: last time I called him McConkie the donkey, he absolutely
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: went off.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 4: So that was the week one of the playoff, right.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: Because I am playing them today, so I'm gonna officially
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: call him mconkie the donkey. So make sure the increase
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: your mcconkee exposure today. He's done absolutely nothing this year.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: Keenan Allen fine options, so you got you got ways
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 3: to run it back. I'm good with Herbert for sure.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, obviously last week was Hampton. They could easily
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: go back to the passing stuff. And the nice thing
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: with Herbert is a lot of different ways to play.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 3: You can play it with all those pass catchers. You
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: can play them with two of those pass catchers and
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: maybe run back Deebo on the other side. I think
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 3: it's a good game, but I am more interested, I
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 3: think in the commander's side because Jayden Daniels at seven
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: k and and the low ownership. But I think it's
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: a it's a good game and a lot of different
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: ways to to go about playing it.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Hampton seems like a guy that the steam is
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: real tight. Well just because it moved out go ahead,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: did you say something? No, No, I thought Hoop was
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: jumping in on that I was gonna say. But yeah,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: the Hampton stuff at the start of the week seemed
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: like he could be the guy that would be like genty,
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: for example, because of the setup where like if everyone's
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: gonna be in this, But what I think happened title
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: is people can't. Because people can't figure out which of
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: those three wide receivers all in the like a two
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: hundred dollars price difference between them fifty five fifty six
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: to fifty seven hundred, they're deciding to not do that
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: as much. So what happened is like those guys all
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: got held in check and have come down. Herbert's not
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: gonna be as popular as what you might have thought.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: And then the debo stuff is easy on the other side,
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: but he's also sixty three hundred. So I don't know.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: I just feel like this game it just became Hampton
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: and that's all, and everyone else has just a little
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: bit of ownership around them. But what do you think
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: of this one.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 4: I'm afraid you're right.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 5: And I say I'm afraid because I mean Hampton, he's
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 5: only twenty two, so I don't know if I can
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 5: say grown ass man. But he runs like like one.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 5: I mean this dude, this dude's different. He can catch
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 5: past as, he's explosive, he has that home run hitting ability.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 4: But I am worried like you're saying.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 5: I mean, the price is still so good that if
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 5: you just can't get all the way to a Chan
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 5: or Tailor like, people can just play one of them,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 5: a Hampton or like or Breeze kind of in that
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 5: range and then punt with a White Carter or any
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 5: of that. Oh man, it's tough because I think you're right,
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 5: and I'm going to be in on this Chargers offense
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 5: every week. I mean, they throw the ball aton, they
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 5: have three options. I think Herbert's good, I think Hampton's good.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 5: I think they move the football most weeks. It's just
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 5: which one is it. I think I just got to
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 5: tell myself it's Johnson right now, Like I think I
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 5: rank at Johnson and then I don't really care between
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 5: the two. A lot of that's just though he has
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 5: that one place sixty five yard boom, like Lad's been
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 5: dropping out routes. It's all in the middle of the field.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 5: Keenan and Herbert's rapport is nasty, So maybe I say
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 5: Keenan's two, but I try to go to props to
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 5: get a feeling. Sixty five and a half receiving yards
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 5: Johnson fifty six and a half, mcconkee fifty four and
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 5: a half, Keenan so slightly. Johnson pretty close though, touchdowns
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 5: one sixty five, Johnson one seventy, Keenan two fifteen Lad.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 5: So I guess folks are kind of seeing it the
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 5: same how I see it. But I like Herbert a lot,
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 5: and you play Herbert, you can just double them up,
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 5: pick two of the three and move on. I think
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 5: playing all three would be a mistake. I guess Hampton
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 5: you can play with him, but I don't love it
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 5: in the sense if he's already getting enough ownership, you're
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 5: almost wanting to leverage off that a little bit to
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 5: hope other guys get there. So I like this spot
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 5: a lot in the sense of I'll play Hampton by himself,
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 5: or I'll play Herbert doubles and move on from there.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 5: I'm not really on the Commander stuff. The knee brace
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 5: I saw if he's wearing that same one I saw
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 5: when he was going through walk through, that thing looked
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 5: pretty big. I'm worried that they're not going to use
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 5: his legs or he'll be more of a pocket passer.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 5: If that's the case, and I'm right, it's harder for
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 5: him to hit the ceiling what Hoop said though, at
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 5: two percent. If he does use his legs and he
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 5: is normal, Jaden, you just don't get I think they're
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 5: pushed and you don't get see that ownership with a
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 5: clear pairing and debo Ertz. If you want that, you
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 5: can do that. But I don't love the Commander side.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: I'm sad because you said it might be a mistake,
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: but I was actually thinking about running the Geno against Washington,
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: just playing all three like it's fifteen what is it
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: sixteen k for all three? If Herbert goes off, it's
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: probably three touchdowns you're gonna need. They're likely to be
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: most to those guys. Obviously Hampton gets in the way,
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: but I think Hampton's steam has got there. Now it
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: may be better for like a five thousand person field
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: or less. I think that's correct.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 4: I was gonna say a thousand or last almost.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it needs to be like the five
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: fifty five milliar less and even then you'll have to
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: get pretty lucky. But yeah, I hear where you're coming
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: from on that. Now it makes more sense. So it's
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: just so hard because trying to pick the two, it's
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: you know, what's gonna happen. You go to Lad, you
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: go to Quintin, it ends up being Keenan Allen Day.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: It's like all that stuff. So I don't know, it's
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: tough to say.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 5: Quintin's just man from everything I've seen and just how
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 5: downfield his targets and stuff are. Like when Herbert stuff
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 5: fully gets there. It feels like, at least how this
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 5: year's offense has been. He's the most like to bring
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 5: him along because of that big play upside. But I
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 5: mean it was just last year and very small sample.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 5: We're still in the first couple of weeks where we
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 5: think we might know everything and we don't, like, like
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 5: Coop said, not too long ago, did Lad go for
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 5: like two hundred on Houston and just completely put up
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 5: a score you need so he can do it. It's
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 5: it's a game. I like, though this Chargers team will
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 5: be playing a lot in DFS. I think it's a
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 5: good football team that can move the ball.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: What should you take hoop?
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: Definitely not. There's not a scenario. There's there's not. I'm
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 3: telling you right now. Though, they're like, if you could
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 3: come up with the scenario where I'm not selecting the
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 3: other side of Jake Browning doubles, I'd be shocked. Herbert
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: triples for sure, Yes, Herbert tripples, But I will say though,
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: not with the three wide receivers. So if I was
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 3: doing that, it would be two wide wide receivers and
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: I just play that cheap tight end and hope, I
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 3: hope he does something. Yeah. The problem the problem with
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: doing the three wide receivers, it's like, man, like, you
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: need three wide receivers from the same team. You basically
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: are saying no other wide receivers going off today for
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 3: the most correlation.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's what it is. It's it all goes back
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: to your quarterback. So at least that's the point. But
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: I don't want.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 3: To throw for four fifty or something, four touchdowns.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a small field play. Or what you do
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: so you don't have the fomo is you build your
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: lineup so it can only fit like Debo, Ladd and Alan.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: It's like, oh, I couldn't afford Quintin, so I never
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: would have had that. No matter what you gotta, you
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: gotta get your mind on how you build it out.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: You know, I didn't have that hundred bucks, so I
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: could never have got that one.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah that's true.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: All right, anything else title from you, anything you want
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: to add, anything you want to talk about before you
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: got here.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 5: Just a late swap copponent again, only ten games, but
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 5: four of them are in the afternoon window, And like
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 5: McBride's gonna get some ownership, Carter is not really showing some.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 5: I thought at ginning of the week, jsm's getting ownership,
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 5: for Sean White's getting ownership. Devo maybe a little bit.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 5: We just talked about the Hampton, some of the pass catchers.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 5: It really feels like the spot like if you need
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 5: a late swap off of some chalk. The Lions just
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 5: all seem under owned for their upside. So I think
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 5: right now again, Sabers and powerful tool. Late swaps important
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 5: in all sports. But I think if I have to
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 5: get off chalk pieces Gibbs, I'm and Rod Jamo Laporta
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 5: like that game can nuke and it's getting held in checks.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 5: So don't forget about the late ad. So if you're
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 5: a premium member, Rio and Sheets will be actually live
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 5: streaming your late swap process today. Really cool stuff. So yeah,
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 5: if you're a member, I would definitely make sure to
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 5: check that one out.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that call. Great, great call there. It's
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: gonna be exciting. A lot of the members have been
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: waiting on that. This is another good bet.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 3: Would be very painful. That would be That would be like.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: Bet that you're someone's gonna get this can happen and
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: he won't even end up on the team.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 4: Forty three And didn't he get there that one week
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 4: Tambo with three and a half.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And it was the same week that Bucky
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: Irving was the mass chalk and ye got like twenty five.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 5: They just ran all over them. White got his too.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 5: I want to say, I thought, or like, was Buck
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 5: heard and White and him got there? Or did all
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 5: three get there?
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: I can't remember, But Bucky had already done his job
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: and we're like, you could have had even more. But yeah,
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: Sean Tucker just smashed. That was crazy.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 3: I like the lights bottom out.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: I like the Saber series call out that's exclusive to
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: members only, So if you're using Saber at another site,
• 1:23:16
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• 1:23:18
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• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: with anything, if you're adding it on whatever. It might
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: be a guy like Sheets and Rio, two super users
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: of sabersim that are showing you exactly their process using
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: our stuff, putting it all together, and this today being
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: their late swat process. That's going to be pretty powerful.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: I know a lot of people are gonna love that.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: You can check it if you can. If you can't
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: make it live, you could still use all the concepts
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: and theory from that and watch it back Monday to
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: be prep for next week or whatever. It might be.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: Just just always a good idea.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 5: It's always in the media alerts, but it's on the
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 5: site too under.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: We tag it in the channel. It's on the media alerts,
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: and then members have access under the sabersim drop down
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: in the top left, or if you're on mobile, the
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: three little lines that you go under under sabersim it's
• 1:23:58
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• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: and what it is, so you'll be able to find
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: it pretty easily there if you're a member.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just gonna add one thing. I know we
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: had the nice run of random tight ends last season
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: that kind of paid off, and I don't know, this
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 3: isn't like super random, but it's gonna be Mason Taylor.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: I think it's a Mason Taylor day at tight end.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 3: Like you know, people are onto him a little bit,
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 3: but I think we're definitely ahead of the curve potentially
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 3: here twenty eight hundred Field is looking to him a ton,
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 3: so I think it's either one hundred yards or two
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 3: touchdowns for Mason Taylor today. I think that that's going
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 3: to be the call again. Like he's not a complete
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 3: unknown guy, but everyone's gonna be playing Warren, everyone's gonna
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: play McBride and there's some other names in there, but
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 3: Mason Taylor tight end day today.
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