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Kathleen Kennedy's Retirement Plan, Mando Season 4, and Thrawn Episode CCXVII · Star Wars Alliance

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  Speaker 1: The Force will be with you always. Hello, and we
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  Speaker 1: are live.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, everybody, Welcome back to another episode of Star Wars Alliance.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, I am your host, Clay, and.
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  Speaker 2: With me today not only am I joined by Katie,
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  Speaker 2: but finally after so many hiccups, personal time, all of
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  Speaker 2: these other things. That's the that's the reason why we
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  Speaker 2: also haven't been live in a while. Just a lot
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  Speaker 2: of personal stuff happening with all of us.
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  Speaker 1: But Adrian is here. Adrian, Hello, how's it going? Yes?
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  Speaker 1: Doing good? Doing good? How you been going on?
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  Speaker 3: I was telling Adrian before you got here, Clay, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know what demon has been in my house, but
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  Speaker 3: I hope it leaves, like, don't come back.
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  Speaker 1: That's good, It's good. I'm glad to see you guys,
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  Speaker 1: Glad to talk Star Wars stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Glad to see you as well. And we are ramping
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  Speaker 2: up to Star Wars celebration. I know Agent you are
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  Speaker 2: heading that way. You How excited are you? On a
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  Speaker 2: scale of I feel like one to ten is not enough,
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  Speaker 2: So like let's let's go full one hundred, one to
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  Speaker 2: one hundred, Like, how do you?
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  Speaker 1: How hyped are you?
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  Speaker 4: I think I mean a hundred for like the whole
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  Speaker 4: Japan trip, because I mean, we're going to like the
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  Speaker 4: World's Fair, We're doing like celebration and all other stuff
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  Speaker 4: like that should be fun. I think, like as I'm
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  Speaker 4: a little disappointed with like the panels if if I'm
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  Speaker 4: being honest, Yeah, yeah, Like the big panels are kind
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  Speaker 4: of like it feels kind of lame compared to what
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  Speaker 4: the last ones were. But I'm hoping that I don't know,
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  Speaker 4: the rest of it is fun and announce happened and
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure, I'm sure it's going to be a good time,
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  Speaker 4: but the main panels aren't as exciting this time around.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm hoping that I get to go see and
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  Speaker 4: or early fingers crossed. Yeah, I'm hoping for some surprises.
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  Speaker 4: That's what I'm hoping for. They're just keeping stuff close
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  Speaker 4: to the chest, and that's why they're like they're gonna
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  Speaker 4: be secret panels announced or something.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, we'll see, but I'm
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  Speaker 1: excited though.
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  Speaker 4: The bad dart looks super dope and excited to get
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  Speaker 4: posters and all the con stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, very nice.
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  Speaker 3: And the main panels for anyone curious are Medlorid and
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  Speaker 3: grogu on Friday and or on Saturday. Ahsoka also on Saturday,
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  Speaker 3: and then Sunday is first look Star Wars Visions while
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  Speaker 3: you three.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, and then like in relation like the last
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  Speaker 4: you mean they had like a villains panel, and they
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  Speaker 4: had like other white panels. They have like other reasons
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  Speaker 4: to get more people on stage than just you know
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  Speaker 4: what next thing is coming out. So that's the only
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  Speaker 4: reason I'm LOLd, diaspointed, because I really really enjoyed the
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  Speaker 4: villain's panel at the last celebration. I thought it was fantastic,
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  Speaker 4: and I was hoping that they're going to do more
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  Speaker 4: stuff like that this year.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, especially with Manny going, Oh, that would be a blast.
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  Speaker 2: Do they have a concrete like book panel like anything.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure something. Yeah, I think like just like the
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  Speaker 1: regular panels.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like that's the only those are the only
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  Speaker 3: panels that have been announced so far.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like the main stage okay panel, Yes.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's go ahead and jump into some
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  Speaker 2: pieces of news here. Looking back, I think the biggest
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  Speaker 2: talk of the town. Of course, last episode we were live,
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  Speaker 2: we've talked about Figy versus Flony, that whole debacle on
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  Speaker 2: if and when Kennedy actually retires, who is the best
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  Speaker 2: fit for the position to look after lucasfilm, not just
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  Speaker 2: Star Wars, remember lucasfilm. So there was that I see,
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  Speaker 2: Katie you put this article from Deadline. Captain Kennedy sat
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  Speaker 2: down with Deadline to talk why do we.
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  Speaker 3: Get into it? Adrian you. We talked about Figy versus
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  Speaker 3: Felony as like those of the top names floating around
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  Speaker 3: right now. If you had to pick between the two,
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  Speaker 3: pick and.
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  Speaker 1: Why who would I pick? Ye? Felony because he's been
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  Speaker 1: mentored by George Lucas directly.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, if I had picked I mean I have both
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  Speaker 4: have it bi committee and get out of this stupid
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  Speaker 4: president thing. So like it's more than just person. I
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  Speaker 4: think is like what they should do. I mean, you
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  Speaker 4: to do this bike and Menia. Now it can't just
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  Speaker 4: be one person anymore. So I hope that it's like not,
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  Speaker 4: I hope it's neither of them. I hope it's like
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  Speaker 4: a bunch of people and we do like a chamber
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  Speaker 4: or something, I don't know, something else, because there's too
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  Speaker 4: much Star Wars for only one person to run it.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 4: It was fine when it was like just the movies
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  Speaker 4: and letting all of the other stuff just run in
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  Speaker 4: the background because George Luis didn't care about the EU
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  Speaker 4: all that much.
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  Speaker 1: So now we have to, like, we have to have
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  Speaker 1: so much more stuff to balance.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's too much for one person, and anyone
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  Speaker 4: who gets it's going to get a lot of flak
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  Speaker 4: from either side. Bikes hope Kathleen Kennedy sticks around until
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  Speaker 4: she's until she dies.
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  Speaker 1: I want her to stay, stay forever again, you know
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  Speaker 1: they're there.
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  Speaker 2: Was well, I was gonna say the the thought did
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  Speaker 2: come across. I did talk to a friend after we
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  Speaker 2: had talked about filony versus Figee, and I've known him
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  Speaker 2: since we were kids, and we always take this phrase
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  Speaker 2: from this silly commercial and I can't even remember what
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  Speaker 2: the commercial was from, but it's this little girl that
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  Speaker 2: just the answer that makes everybody cheer at the end
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  Speaker 2: of the commercial is pors.
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  Speaker 1: It's like we have both, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And I think there's a small precedent for it with
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  Speaker 2: of course DC Studios, with Peter Saffron and James Gunn.
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  Speaker 2: There is the aspect of the creator versus the businessman
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  Speaker 2: working together to you know, have a studio.
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  Speaker 1: And I think.
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  Speaker 2: Lucasfilm could really help, Like it could really help the
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  Speaker 2: brand of Lucasfilm altogether to have something like that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean and Chancellor, do you know, I High
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  Speaker 4: Republic to Chancellor it or something, you know, Like it's
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  Speaker 4: just it's and I think that the I think the
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  Speaker 4: notion that Feloney would do a bad job I think
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  Speaker 4: is crazy to me. I don't understand like why people
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  Speaker 4: don't think Filoni would do a good job when like
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  Speaker 4: he's like literally all of the projects that he does,
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  Speaker 4: he brings in so many other people than just himself.
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  Speaker 4: So I don't see why he wouldn't do like the
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  Speaker 4: same thing to kind of run the ship. The best
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  Speaker 4: episode of the Mandalorian and the best of anything aren't
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  Speaker 4: the ones that he does directly.
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  Speaker 1: It's usually somebody else.
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  Speaker 4: So as long as if it is him, I feel
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  Speaker 4: like he would be the better picks. I feel like
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  Speaker 4: he would bring in more people to help run the
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  Speaker 4: thing in like the creative director role, which I think
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  Speaker 4: is like a better thing than having like a president.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think president losing losing its value as a term,
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  Speaker 4: so we do something else instead.
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  Speaker 2: Please that that that rings so true right now?
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  Speaker 1: But we have the article.
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  Speaker 2: The quote taken from here is The truth is. This
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  Speaker 2: is from Kathleen Kennedy herself. The truth is, and I
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  Speaker 2: want to just say out loud and clear, I am
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  Speaker 2: not retiring. I will never retire from movies. What's happening
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  Speaker 2: at Lucasfilm is I have been talking for quite some
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  Speaker 2: time with both Bob and Alan about what eventual succession
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  Speaker 2: might look like. We have an amazing bench of people here,
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  Speaker 2: and we have every intention of making an announcement months
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  Speaker 2: or a year down the road.
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  Speaker 3: So the answer to the question of is she stepping
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  Speaker 3: down from Lucasfilm is yes. Basically doesn't mean she's gonna
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  Speaker 3: stop producing, yeah, the movies like she can still be
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  Speaker 3: an executive producer. The answer is, in the next year
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  Speaker 3: there will be a new president of Lucasfilm or a
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  Speaker 3: successor to leave Lucasfilm in some way shape or for
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  Speaker 3: that's the fancy jargon here, would y'all do?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I mean that's what it sounds like,
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  Speaker 4: but also just sounds like shut up, you don't know,
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  Speaker 4: like what you guys are talking about. And this became
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  Speaker 4: a whole big thing and it shouldn't have been. I
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  Speaker 4: think it's what it feels like to me, like chill,
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  Speaker 4: Like if once it happens, you guys will know we're
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  Speaker 4: not hiding it, like you guys will know what the
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  Speaker 4: plan is. That's what I got out of that anyway.
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  Speaker 3: And sorry, I just think there's more credence to it
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  Speaker 3: because there's been rumors that she's retiring or stepping down
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  Speaker 3: for years at this point, and to have the interview
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  Speaker 3: now just says, Okay, hey, there's a little bit of
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  Speaker 3: truth to this, but I gotta deflect somewhat here. So
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  Speaker 3: that's my opinion.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I just also want to piggyback off of
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  Speaker 2: something that Adrian said, you know, saying the fact that
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  Speaker 2: you know you don't want her to retire until she's dead,
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  Speaker 2: Katie saying how successful.
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  Speaker 1: She has been.
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  Speaker 2: This article does state Kennedy is arguably the most successful
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  Speaker 2: female producer and executive in Hollywood history. She has produced
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  Speaker 2: more than seventy films that have collected one hundred and
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  Speaker 2: twenty Oscar nominations and twenty five wins, and she herself
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  Speaker 2: was awarded the honorary Oscar with the Irving G. Thalberg
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  Speaker 2: Memorial Award, with eight other OSCAR nominations like she is
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  Speaker 2: a power house and she's a legend. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: people see passed Star Wars with her, unfortunately, and I
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  Speaker 2: think that may be one of the reasons why. I think, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: you know what, step back from Lucasfilm. Yeah, sure, and
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  Speaker 2: then show again why you're so famous and why you
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  Speaker 2: took over Lucasfilm in the first place, you know, and
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  Speaker 2: keep making those movies, keep producing and all of that.
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  Speaker 1: I think that would be great.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. I think that's like the boilerplate of
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  Speaker 3: this interview she doesn't really address like like they try
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  Speaker 3: to go, oh, is Filona your successor and she's like yeah,
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  Speaker 3: Like there's an internal process. Basically, she asked like, hey,
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  Speaker 3: why is your job such a huge focus, and like
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  Speaker 3: there's like questions into that. But really, I think the
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  Speaker 3: biggest thing out of here, other than hey, I'm retiring
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  Speaker 3: but not retiring from movies, is that Sean Levy's movie
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  Speaker 3: is coming next in the production line for Star Wars.
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  Speaker 3: Any thoughts on that versus like Man's Gold movie and like.
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  Speaker 1: Full I believe him.
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  Speaker 4: I'll believe him when there's a trailer and stuff is
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  Speaker 4: like set and there's an announcement on it. It's just
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  Speaker 4: so much stuff, dude, just like this how many times
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  Speaker 4: I'm just I can't. I can't be excited for a director,
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  Speaker 4: I like, just for I think for me, it comes
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  Speaker 4: like a lot to like the trailers, like it's preliminary talks,
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  Speaker 4: preliminary talks, this is the thing that's next on the docket.
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  Speaker 4: And then you know, Kevin Faigi, if you go with
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  Speaker 4: like an MCU, look at all this stuff that we
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  Speaker 4: never got. So being announced is fun, but until we
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  Speaker 4: get I mean all that. Look all the stuff that
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  Speaker 4: was announce at Star Wars celebration last time, and how
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  Speaker 4: much movement has happened on like literally any of it
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  Speaker 4: since then? Yeah, very little, so tempered expectations. You know,
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  Speaker 4: I'm always down for new Star Wars stuff, but then
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  Speaker 4: so stuff is concrete and like people are booked, I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: oh cool, until something concrete happens, especially since I'm a
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  Speaker 4: Star Wars game person too, where if you're like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: where's a new game, then this never comes and I'm
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  Speaker 4: just like stop being a damn Jedi in every damn
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  Speaker 4: Star Wars game.
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  Speaker 2: I feel the same way, you know, kind of taking
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  Speaker 2: the conversation in a completely different direction.
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  Speaker 1: But not really. But like.
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  Speaker 2: I agree, Adrian, it's hard to get excited about anything now.
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  Speaker 2: But like today that Leeli and Stitch Tailor brought a
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  Speaker 2: tear to my damn. I man, like I saw that
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  Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, I'm so pumped. I immediately
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  Speaker 2: sent it to Abby and I was like, I think
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  Speaker 2: we may actually have this. You know, take Amber, Linda,
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  Speaker 2: watch this, and it's it's because it's right there, there's proof, like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: here is what will be a finished project in just
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  Speaker 2: a couple of months, Whereas, like you said, with with
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  Speaker 2: a lot of this stuff, especially and in celebration, wasn't
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  Speaker 2: even last year. It was two years ago, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: So that's that's that's even worse in my mind, the
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  Speaker 2: fact that these things were announced two years ago, and
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  Speaker 2: it feels like we've kicked the can maybe a foot,
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  Speaker 2: like it's.
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  Speaker 1: Daisy really has been in like four movies since then.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I've heard really good things about those movies,
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  Speaker 3: some more Power Tour, but.
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  Speaker 4: Like I know, but Star Wars, like what are we doing?
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  Speaker 4: You doesn't even know, like really what's going on with it?
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  Speaker 3: You know?
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm just hoping that they're just keeping stuff
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  Speaker 4: close to the chests, we'll get a whole bunch of celebration.
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  Speaker 1: Then we can be happy again.
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  Speaker 4: But again, like you said, until I get a trailer,
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  Speaker 4: people that are peeking out about I'm waiting.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, or or even like and I don't condone this obviously,
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  Speaker 3: but like paparazzi footage of like things being shot on
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  Speaker 3: set like we're getting right now with the Odyssey from
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  Speaker 3: Nolan's film, like stuff like that goes okay, this is
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  Speaker 3: actually happening because like she talks about Simon Kinberg's movies
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  Speaker 3: like being like the future of Star Wars and happening
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  Speaker 3: post squel trilogy, and then Sean Levy's movie is five
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  Speaker 3: to six years after the sequel trilogy, but it's a
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  Speaker 3: standalone story, so maybe no sequel characters in it. So
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  Speaker 3: it's just it'd be interesting to see. All Right, y'all,
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  Speaker 3: we're gonna hit our first ad break and we will
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  Speaker 3: be right back in three two one. What is actually happening?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm looking back at some of our news
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  Speaker 2: tidbits that we had posted. We did talk about the
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  Speaker 2: fact that Sean Levy's budget is going to be a
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  Speaker 2: little bit smaller than you know what the quote unquote
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  Speaker 2: normal Star.
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  Speaker 1: Wars movie will be an agent.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think, Like, so far, since you've been on
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  Speaker 2: the show, we haven't really had the chance to hear
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  Speaker 2: your opinion on this, But like the Ryan Gosling casting,
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  Speaker 2: the fact that it will be its own standalone thing, Like,
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  Speaker 2: how are you feeling about all of these elements that
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  Speaker 2: are coming out of what will be Sean Lovey's movie.
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  Speaker 1: I like Star Wars when it's lesser known actors.
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  Speaker 4: I think that it's I think it takes people, well,
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  Speaker 4: it takes me out a little bit of the thing
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  Speaker 4: to have them have such big rules. It's why I
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  Speaker 4: think that Carrie and Moss's role in Actlyte was like
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  Speaker 4: so perfect because she probably like was the most recognizable
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  Speaker 4: name going into it, and she was like barely in
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  Speaker 4: it right. So I'm hoping that it's one of those
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  Speaker 4: things like where he's in it, but he I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I like Ryan Gosling, but like I don't, I don't.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not dying to see him in Star Wars. If
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  Speaker 4: I'm being honest, I love Ryan Gosling, but I'm going
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  Speaker 4: to see him play Ryan Gosling in Star Wars because
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  Speaker 4: I personally don't think his range is all that great,
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  Speaker 4: So like what is he going to do? What is
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  Speaker 4: he bringing to it? What is he what is he
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  Speaker 4: going to be doing? That's different than like Lee Jung
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  Speaker 4: Jay literally learning English to play a role and like
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  Speaker 4: do something that we've never seen do before.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, like what do we do? We do we're
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  Speaker 1: just trying to sell tickets.
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  Speaker 4: If we're just trying to sell tickets, then I guess,
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  Speaker 4: but it doesn't make me uber excited.
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  Speaker 1: I like Ryan Gosling, but.
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  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, Travis the godfather of the gua here. He
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  Speaker 2: kind of has this saying that some people can be
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  Speaker 2: too famous for Star Wars, and we've kind of bumped
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  Speaker 2: heads with that statement on some of these castings. I
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  Speaker 2: it's so funny because we made the discussion because they've
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  Speaker 2: worked so well together. Could you imagine Ryan Reynolds in
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  Speaker 2: a Star Wars movie and pass I and and I
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  Speaker 2: think I think both Ryan's are too famous for Star Wars.
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  Speaker 2: I think, well, because the first thing that comes to
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  Speaker 2: mind for a lot of people when it comes to
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  Speaker 2: Ryan Gosling, it's immediately, oh, we're getting another scoundrel, and
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  Speaker 2: it's like okay.
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  Speaker 1: Like if he plays a scoundrel, I'm out. It's this
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  Speaker 1: idea of.
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  Speaker 3: Getting for a scoundrel, like.
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  Speaker 2: Like it the pretty boy always gets the scoundrel role.
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  Speaker 2: I think that is like, don't turn that into a
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  Speaker 2: cliche like let's yeah, let's let's change that please, And it.
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  Speaker 3: Just is like my opinion on like too famous for
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  Speaker 3: Star Wars, like I don't think there's anybody too famous
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  Speaker 3: for Star Wars because like I don't blame these actors
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  Speaker 3: for going that's my childhood dream to be in Star Wars,
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  Speaker 3: Like I would love to do that. So I don't
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  Speaker 3: want to like go, oh, you're too famous for Star Wars,
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  Speaker 3: Like I won't do that kind of thing. But like,
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  Speaker 3: I also don't think it's too much to say, hey,
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  Speaker 3: play an alien instead of a human we already know.
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  Speaker 1: From from the Bear and Shameless. I can't think of
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  Speaker 1: his name off.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but like, oh, Jeremy something.
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  Speaker 1: Jeremy Allen.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, like Jeremy Allen, Like Jeremy Allen probably too big
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  Speaker 4: to be in Star Wars. But what is he gonna be.
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  Speaker 4: He's gonna be a hut something. Yeah, yeah that works.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Give me that. Put him in some prosthetics.
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: I'm down in, uh, you know with what we have,
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: you know, I I saw Ryan Goslin and I was like,
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: you know, we're kind of burnt.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say burnt out on Jedi in Star Wars,
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: but I was like, hey, you know, Ryan Goslin could
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: possibly fit the look for a corn Horn and like,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: that's just I threw that out there, while also throwing
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: out the fact that there's the rumor of Henry Cavill
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: being in a Star Wars film having him as Oh, shoot,
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: what's his name.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: X Arcom. I think that would be kind of cool.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: But yeah, just you know it when it comes to
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: these types of castings, because I you know, throwing my
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: own words in my mouth, throwing my foot in my mouth,
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: with you know, being too famous for Star Wars, I'll
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: take Henry Cavill a Star Wars.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Will But yeah, it is what it is. I'll say.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: I'll say I like Henry cave because Henry Cavill has range,
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: I think more range than either of the Ryans personally. Again,
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: my thing is like, it's unless he's doing something like
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: ground Bak thereless either of them are doing something groundbreaking
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: with the role, Like if it's like a Ryan Gossling,
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: like love Story cool dope. Is it gonna be like
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: a Ryan Gosling like funny guy thing where he's just
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: gonna be handsome and like endearing and blah.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Blah blah blah blah.
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: There's a million and five other white guys in Hollywood
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: that I'm sure can play the exact same role, Like
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: why Ryan Gosling? Like yeah, I think the type casting
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: has to be important. That's why the act Lite was
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: so good because it was big name actor, big name
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: you quote unquote, big name actors that were specifically done
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: for the roles that Leslie Henlett like had in mind. Right,
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: it was very particular casting. So is it casting like
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: that or is it casting just to go get his
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: buddy into Star Wars because that was his dream? And
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: then I get to like watch how like a other
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: white dude gets to go be in Star Wars because
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: it's always been history and blah blah bah blahlah.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: Everybody's dream, man, I.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: Don't care, Like if it's me, I'm like yeah, no,
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: like that's that's my dream, but like let someone else go.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: It's let someone else go do it, because I'm it's
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: not my lane staying stay in your lane, And that's
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: a fun.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Words. I think that's basically it on Sean Levy's film
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: and such. So Uh. Stephen Knight, Uh, the writer who
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: was attached to the New Jedi Order film, UH, did
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: an interview with The Playlist where he talks about writing
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: on the Star Wars film, and he said he loved
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: working on the movie and praised the Lucasomchi. He said,
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: I mean, it was such a great experience. And I'm
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: not just saying this. They were great people. Kathleen Kennedy
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: is a pleasure to work with. Lucas film are smart
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: people who know their craft, and for me, it's like
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: a particular discipline in the world of writing and film.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: It's this world and you enter the world and you
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: do your bit and you do your take. I always
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: knew the process then moves on. So I don't know
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: what of the writing that I've submitted is going to
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: end up in whatever the next incarnation of that movie is.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: It's just great to be there and to be a
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: part of that. It sounds like he enjoyed working on
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: it and it was standard Hollywood process, like you and
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: I talked about when him leaving was announced.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: So he also made this comment here he said working
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: on the script was to feel like stepping into a
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: hurricane in a way, because of the fans, because of
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: what they want and what they feel. So you're in
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: the world and you're doing Uh.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Did you already say this part? M okay?
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Because he's saying your bit again. He used that phrase
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: so many times.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: He said, you either get blown away and use it.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: And I really wanted to use that energy to do
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: what I do, to contribute what I want to contribute.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: I don't think did we did we.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Talk about what he's done in the past as far
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: as like if I am aware of what he has done,
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: I can't remember.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: Mainly, I think the big things have been Peaky Blinders,
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: A thousand Blows, Luck and Serenity. I have not seen
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: anything he's done. Actually, I think he did Watchmen, didn't he?
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: I want to say he did Watchmen? Or maybe that
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: was nothing writer on this film.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Seeing that he has done a lot of who wants
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: to be a millionaire back in the day. But yeah, no,
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: I don't think I have seen any of his work.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: At all. So I am.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Excited to see what he contributed. Oh, he worked on
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: c which I have not done. I have not watched it,
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: but I know that a lot of people did love
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: that show with Jason good I have seen that.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so oh yeah, ALTV does good stuff.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's probably the only exciting thing I think
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: you guys have mentioned so far.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, again, we'll see how this turns out.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: There is no timeline I feel like for this film
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: as far as hard timeline, no hard dates or anything
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: like that. And hopefully, like we've said for the past
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: twenty minutes, hopefully we get something at Star Wars celebration
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: in just over a month to see what we you know,
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: will hopefully be actually be able to get a countdown
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: of like, hey, we will finally get to see this
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: movie on this date, on this year whatever.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: So yeah, we'll see. All right, just let's let them cook,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: let them cook you a little bit. Yeah, cook please.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: So the next bit of news, because the figure will
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: end on the and or interview is like the latest thing.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: So Favreau in an interview, it looks like we French
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: entertainment news be in BFMTV. Inside he talked about season
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: four of The Mandalorian. He said, season four, Yeah, I've
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: written it already. We have to know where we are
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: going to tell a fully formed story, so we haven't it.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: We haven't. We had mapped it out Dave Filoni and
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: I and then slowly you just write each episode. So
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: I was writing it during post production because all that
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: has to feel like a continuation and one full story,
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: which is interesting considering one of the trades. I forget
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: which one, Clay you might remember, but one of the
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: trades just listed Mandalorian as twenty nineteen to twenty twenty three,
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: like it is no longer continuing.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: I am looking at that now, because we joked about it.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Even Travis was like, hey, I thought season four was
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: already written, and again this may just be a simple Hey,
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: we're not going to confirm anything until we announce it.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: You know, we always say nothing's confirmed until it's on
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Star Wars dot com.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: So we'll see.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: It doesn't show which trade is actually the article is from,
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: but currently we know that Jon Favreau is actually moved
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: on to a whole new universe of films.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: Was that confirmed?
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: I thought it was confirmed.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: I thought it was rumors that he was going to
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: the Mickey Mouse.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: This is from Deadline Oswald The Lucky Rabbit TV series
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: from John Favreau in works at Disney plus Oh okay, so,
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: and there's been big rumors on this on how it's
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: gonna evolve into like Kingdom Hearts and all of this
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: other stuff, which has gotten a lot of people super excited.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: But I mean, I would assume there's been plenty of
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: time to write a Mando season four doesn't mean he
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: has to be super involved after that, you know.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say, like I would like him to
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: stay involved obviously, But you're right. I mean, it's like
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: Felawe with Clone Wars with Resistance, like, hey, here's the
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: here's the outline, like fill in the blanks kind of thing.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because how many the.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: Lightsaber just got here?
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: Sorry, I just saw us.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: So but here here's the thing. Because I always forget
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Jon Favreau filmed how many episodes in season one?
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Uh? Or well, let me let me.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Ask a simpler question through all three seasons? Has he
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: has he filmed? Did he film seasons two and three?
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: I think he directed an episode in season two, but
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: he didn't direct an episode in season three.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so he was heavily more on the on the
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: writing side. So if that's how this has trickled down.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: I feel like, yeah, have him write it. Hopefully he
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: didn't phone it in, you know, that's the biggest concern
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: at this point, and then give it to lucasfilm said, Hey,
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: I have another project that I need to work on.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Here's Season four. Announce it when you can peace out.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: At least that's how I see it. Yeah, I mean,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: if it works. If it works, I don't know. If
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: it's there, I don't know.
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: And but also like again, like I think he's really
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: good at the idea stuff and like letting other people execute,
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: which is like what I think Lucas can never really do.
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: So I'd be okay if that's the route he went, We're.
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: Gonna go into our second ad break and we'll be
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: right back.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: All right, guys.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: So for everybody who is joining us now and or
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: after on YouTube, Katie is in possession of her Mara
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: Jade lightsaber that almost immediately stole out. Uh so, yes,
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: And I am going to have to edit so much
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: of this because that just rang in my ear.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: Sorry. Look, Okay, I don't get like toys very much,
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: not that well, but I'm just not like a big
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: collector of things. But when this was announced, it's like.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: See, they don't forget your girl. They're just gonna use
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: it to get your money and then never mention her again.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: Three hundred and seventy five dollars with shipping and tax.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: But I'm sure you're not getting any.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: Birth This is my birthday present that I'm getting in
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: March to yourself.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: You can get presents from other people.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: You're fine.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: No, my mom gave me my money, and that gave
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: me my money for my birthday presence.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: That'll work. But yeah, you know, I I think that
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: uh that with Fabreau.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Leaving, as far as just being the writer, I hope
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: that he and Felony have you know, created such a
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: structured part.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Of this universe, you know, being the Mando verse that
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: what is that? Is that a mar Lady number?
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: A comic that comes with it?
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Is it a reprint?
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like they just did. They did like a
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: special printing for this. I got number twenty six at
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: a thirty five hundred.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Very nice, very nice, and that is a beautiful hilt.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: I'm so.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: I did not get a blade. I was too cheap
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: to get the blade, so I just have to help.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Hey, Hey, the blade can come later without the blade
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: it's easier to mount if you ever want to mount
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: it anywhere, just letting you know, Yeah, that's true.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: I'm so excited. Like I always looked at like the
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: Force SX lightsabers and stuff.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: But for the longest time I had Saber Forge bookmarks
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: on my browser and specifically I had the rape Yer
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Handguard lightsaber. Yeah, and I was like, I'm going to
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: get it one of these days, I'm going to get it.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: And then they sold out and they haven't brought it
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: back since. So very sad day. But with that, that
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: is the last of the men Know news. The next
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: thing on our list for news, and I believe it's
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: the last, would be this conversation with Tony Gilroy with Collider. So, Katie,
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: you wanna.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Jump on this one?
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: Yes, So he talks, So I'm not gonna like, I'm
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: gonna hit the high points of this interview, which it
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: was an interview with Collider. Maggie is a great journalist.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: I love what she does. So, uh, Clay, I'm gonna
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: make you link this in the description box below so
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: people can go check it out directly, because always it's
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: a long interview people. But the biggest things that he
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: talks about is for Roguelin in particular because we are
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: headed obviously to Rogue one with the twelve episodes of
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: and Or that are upcoming, and he wants to make
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: sure that as we go to Rogue one, that people
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: from Rogue one appear in and Or organically, so it's
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: not just shoved in cameos and stuff like Melschie for instance.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: He wanted that to feel super organic in. Anybody else
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: who's going to make an appearance in and Or will
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: have to be done super organically so it's not detracting
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: from the overall story. The other thing that I found
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: interesting is the Gorman Massacre. The special preview for and
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: Or on Disney Plus did confirm we're going to Gorman
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: in the subtitles and everything, but the Gorman massacre is
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: actually going to play out over five episodes in and Or.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: So how do y'all think that's going to play in?
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: When we know, hey, we're doing three episodes then skipping
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: to next year.
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: We shouldn't have known that at all. We shouldn't have
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: known that at all. It's so silly. I think for me, like,
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: we didn't need that second teaser at all. I think
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: that second teaser really like gave away too much, man,
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: Like if you shouldn't need to be excited that a
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: bunch of people are gonna get massacred, like over five
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: episodes to want to go see this, I shouldn't be like,
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: why we're c to this and I know that whatever,
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: Like everyone's really excited for tarking to smash a bunch
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: of people with a star destroyer, Like I'm not saying,
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: like I don't need atrocities to know that the Empire
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: is bad.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: And I think that's like my.
• 37:35
  Speaker 6: The more time goes on, the more and or falls
• 37:38
  Speaker 6: on my list because I just don't understand why we
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: are still not clazing, but like we're putting this And
• 37:46
  Speaker 6: I really loved.
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: The interview with Maggie for sure, but I just think that,
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: like we we're just doing too much. And we went
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: from like no trailers, nothing talking about and or to
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: like them giving us multiple teasers, multiple things, giving away
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: like one of the biggest things in in the Galactic
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: Civil War, why yeah, play out organically, Like you're saying like,
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: if you want something to be organic, say hey, and
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: or season two come get it, you shouldn't have to
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: do anything more than that.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: And I just wish that I just wish that we
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: didn't know about it. I wish we didn't about it.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think everybody, let's be honest, everybody and
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: their mother who's big Star Wars people knew the Gorman
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: massacre was counting because of rebels and everything. But say,
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: like the direct quote from Gilroy is like Gorman is
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: like really unannounced or it's not described, not unannounced, and
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: so he said, quite honestly, it's very expensive to build,
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: so we really want to use it as much as possible,
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: so it carries over five different episodes. So like, Okay,
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: why was that necessary? Like that's not like sure like
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: talk about how the set, but like Disney already wants
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: you to be economical. We believe that you're being as
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: economical as it's.
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like if if we're in Revenge of the
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: Sith and someone's like they're going to do Order sixty
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: six and then like you hype up Order sixty six
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: for like a month before like the movie comes out,
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: Like yeah, just waited, like you give just wait one month,
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: wait one month, and then let us just all experience
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: that as organically as you want us to in the story. Yeah,
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know Tony. I don't know Tony.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: Well. He did also talk about the release schedule of
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: the three episodes a week.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: And magne, I just feel about that. I'm not I'm
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: not down. I think that's I don't like it decision.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: I think, well, it's getting harder and harder for me
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: to schedule my time around these things.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: I like the idea of a movie a week. A
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: movie a week sounds.
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: Great, but that's that's the pr thing. I swear that
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: it was like a pr answer, like, oh, I'll just
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: think of it as a movie a week now. No,
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: I can think about it as committing an hour and
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: a half instead of forty five minutes of my week
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: to doing this.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: And I think that there's.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: An hour at least.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: And then how are we supposed to talk about it? Right? Like,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: I don't think like it's going to be talked about
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: as much.
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: It's gonna go like this, We're gonna be done with
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: it so quickly, And it feels like it's a discredit,
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: like if and Or is that good?
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: If we love and Or that much, we shouldn't be
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: rushing through it.
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: If it's if it's that big a deal, I think,
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: because if we're doing this for five episodes, imagine doing
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: this this because that's like Game of Thrones level battle stuff, right,
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: and you're gonna stretch it, like, let's stretch it over weeks,
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: like really make.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Us feel it? Not Yeah, And I know, and it's not.
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: His and he didn't decide that, right, it's a Disney decision.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure if he had his way, this would
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: be five seasons. I'm sure if he had his way, right,
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: So I think he's just trying to like spin it
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: to kind of like what's like the best way out
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: of it?
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: And I don't know, And you know, I don't know
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: what is going on in Disney's head. Because of the
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: reaction to and Or season one, there was a huge
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: fuss about how nobody's talking about and Or why isn't
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: anybody talking about and Or? Hey, let's move this to
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: FX for you know, the next three months and see
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: if people will watch and Or and then now you're
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: scrunching it up into a blink of an eye and
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: expect people to talk about and Or for months like that.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: People to get it.
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: I think more than anything, like are people gonna sit
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: there and like think about it, right, Like, imagine if
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: the Daughter of Pharynx episode happened after we watched like
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: two other episodes, right, and we didn't like sit there
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: with I don't know, I just don't like it.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: I don't like it.
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: I think it's annoying, especially and especially because we don't
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: get act like season two, and like this is the decision,
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: the decision making of how they're releasing these shows. And
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: if it's a thing like where they're just like trying
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: to get out of this stuff where they're not they
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: don't want to do TV shows no more, that's fine,
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: then like let us go out with a bang, you know,
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: let us let us go out talking about it, because
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: you know damn well that your media team loves interacting
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: with people, and you're giving people less opportunities to interact
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: with Star Wars stuff. Because's not like we have any
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: movies to look forward to. What else are we looking
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: forward to? We have nothing else going on right now, Like.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: Don't have movies. The only things that we know of
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: that are coming this year are and our season two
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: and The Vision's Volume three. There's literally nothing else.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, start, We're going to be starved like and
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: and especially.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: With higher public ending. I know that doesn't relate to
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: the TV.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: But Kadie, we have said it plenty of times. We've said,
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: oh well, us book people won't be that starved. But like,
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: if you take all of the Star Wars fandom and say, hey,
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: who's reading the High Republic, there's gonna be seventy five
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: percent of that entire fandom. That's like the what mm hmm,
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Like it's like, so people aren't going to be super
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: hyped about these other mediums. You have the one medium
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: that people are really gravitating towards, and you're cutting it short,
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: you're cutting it by it's at the knees. And I
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: don't like that at all. And I know that, like,
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: of course, there's gonna be the idea of oh, well,
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: you know, celebrations right there, so like you have all
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: of you have and Or and Celebration to talk about,
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: and all of that news is going to hit and
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: da da dah.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: But I just don't feel it. I don't feel it.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's like the biggest thing. And I know
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: it's not his fault. I think he's put his heart
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: and soul into and Or, and I just.
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: Wish less than a month. Yeah, it's how long. It's
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: going to be around less than a month. That's that's crazy.
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: That's crazy, all this build up, all of this stuff
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: to be done in less than a month, and for it,
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: and I think.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: Again, I bring back the Acolyte thing.
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: I have to like listen to everybody's sake, and Or's better,
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: and Andwar's the best thing ever, Andor's the best thing ever,
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: ANDWDS the best thing ever. Andre's the best thing ever.
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: And it's going to be around shorter than Skeleton Crew
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: and The Acolyte were or any of the other shows were.
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: And we talked about it the last time we were
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: live about how the twenty twenty six Emmy cutoff is
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: May thirty first, So bruh in a sense it makes sense,
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: but also why is that cut off that early for
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: the twenty twenty six.
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: In mace like also like just to start your thing
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: earlier then, man, Like there's so other, like many other
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: ways for you to do this. It's your it's your company,
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: it's your stuff. You can release it right now. They
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: can put it out right now if they wanted to.
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: There's nothing snapping never putting it out right Now.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: It's the really silly thing that I think Disney Plus
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: is doing with their platform.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: You look at I mean, the the godfather of streaming. Netflix.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: Everybody's trying to be Netflix, but they're.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: Refusing to be like Netflix.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: Netflix drops shows like crazy. They don't say, oh, this
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: show goes first, Okay, this show goes next. Oh we
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: can't do that one. Let's let's throw this. Oh there's
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: a new movie, but this one has to go first. Okay, Like, no,
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: throw out your content. It will gravitate to anybody who
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: wants to grab that content.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it just will.
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: And we're about to jump into our third ad, y'all.
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: We promise will be right back. We promise it absolutely will.
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: It doesn't make sense to me, and I know, like
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: we're seeing like Disney go, okay, we need to get
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: back into movies. Oh we need to drop streaming like Alo.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: Putting the first three episodes and or on YouTube then
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: like this.
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: Week doesn't make sense.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Wait, they're putting it on YouTube?
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they put season one on YouTube?
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Right? Did I see that?
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: They put the first three episodes on YouTube and then
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: they did a fourteen minute summary on Andrew season one,
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: Like that's wild so yeah, it's it's just weird.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: I'm excited. I'm I'm sure gonna love it, but I'm so.
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: People who love that movie and glaze that movie so
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: hard maybe not like it anymore. I think, hmm, or
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: like that show selling Scars Guards speech is overrated by
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: the way too.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: I solved your post on.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: That at I love the the SpongeBob.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: Gift that you use for that, and.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: I'll admit I'll admit no, we talked about it. We
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: really enjoyed it. We see all the time people gassing
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: up the speech to see it was a little jaw
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: dropping because I was not expecting it. When you were like,
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: hot take, I was like, oh, Dale.
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, hot take. That dude giving that speech to some
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: underling no one cares about. Isn't a good speech. That
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: is him stroking himself. It's stupid and I hate it
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: and I hate that we have to glaze it so much,
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: like there's so many other speeches. Nemic's manifesto, World's better
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: even though she didn't say fuck the Empire, you know
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: that speech world's better, ye, Prision speech World's better than
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: the fucking stone Scars card. And then in the corner, like
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: all my hard work is fuck you. It's like, rich asshole,
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: you're ready to see him die and I can't wait.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be so excited.
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: I'm so excited and I can't wait, dude.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: Get him out here. Man.
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: And maybe it's Thunds like brown, maybe I'm just brown,
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: but I'm just so tired of like watching people glaze
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: this dude. I'm like, look, if this was in our world,
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: who would he be? He would be some fucking rich
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: white politician going boo, who I have to do all
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: this stuff while they're in their their privilege, while.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: We're doing stuff.
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: I mean ye, then these canna talk to me about
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: his sacrifice as a privileged dude chilling out in the
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: sentence and not all the funk off off, my guy,
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: You're not that cool.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: And this is why we love the Mere Alliance.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: This is why we love every single time we have
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: a guest on Star Wars Alliance.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: They give the best hot takes. I love it. I
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: always love it.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: The controversy is here and I love it well.
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: The last bit of news that we yet have is
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: so once upon a galaxy. I have no idea who
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: this person is, but they have found a link to
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: a Force Awakens tenth anniversary tie in young adult novel
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: that is yet to be announced, but it looks like
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: it is by Kwam Mabali. I probably didn't pronounce that, right,
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: I do apologize, but that's my best guess. But I
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: would imagine this is by Disney Lucasfilm, So I would
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: imagine this will be announced at a celebration Officiallyian.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: Novel the way that like everyone did.
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like it got a couple like the
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: legend of Luke's. I want to s it was.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: Less Jedi, wasn't it?
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: Was it?
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: I think?
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: So?
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that says Journey to the Last Jedi. It
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: wouldn't been airing the Empire.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think it has one. I'm trying to
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: like think and.
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: Because you do like the Journey too, right, it is
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: usually like yeah, after Math, I mean after maths probably
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: like the closest thing.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't recommend.
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: I know it had several, like we.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: Just reviewed all three of them.
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: Look, man, I like Kevin Wexley, but like the It's
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: there's some other stuff I don't like, you know.
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: So I think the only thing they really had was
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: potentially after Math and then several like middle grade like
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: young reader books, so like nothing like major big.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: Bloodline.
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: I guess technically bloodline I would count.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: Ploe is pretty close. Which one was bloodline?
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: You haven't read Bloodline.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: Clay, sir, stop it doing right now. Go read that
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: beautiful book by Claudia Gray.
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: It's on the list.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, very good, very very good. Oh it's this one. Okay, yes, yes, yes,
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: I reckon.
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: Okay, So this does say after Math, Lost Stars several
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: junior novels, short stories. Yeah, so after Math and Lost
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: Stars are really the only ones. Bloodline was the Last
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: Jedi because Ryan Johnson consultant on that book, I think,
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: no Bloodline is not mentioned in the Wikipedia article for
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: or Last Jedi FAsMA Canto Bite Leah Princess of Walder
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: on legendser.
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, so anyway, yeah, but yeah, So what I
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: was trying, I was trying to think really hard. I
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: love The Force Awakens, and I feel like I've read
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: everything that leads up to that, and I don't. I
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: couldn't think of tailing novel the way that like the
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: Legends of Luke Skywalker was like a tailing novel, you
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: know what I mean. So I'm I'm s sign me up.
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: I will go get if they have they're selling it there,
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: I'll get y'all copies.
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: Knowing Disney probably they'll probably announce it and then have
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: it on sale. So yes, would appreciate copies.
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: Yes, finally, No, like seriously, there has been like three times.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: There has been three times where Star Wars has announced
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: like a book or something and we've had we've we've
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: known somebody that's gonna be at a convention, and like
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: they never follow through, and I'm just like, dang it.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Katie book last time. Yeah right, yeah,
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: that is right. Yea, that's that's right.
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and Georgie sent us one too, because she sent
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: us the they sent us the uh the Inquisitor, Rise
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: of the Red Blade.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: Oh yep, yep, that is true. Yep, I forgot about
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: that one.
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: But yeah recently, that's right. All right. So, speaking of
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: Star Wars books, Clay, it is.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: Time I have read thron for my first time. Uh
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: so I texted you this, Katie. I hate how much
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: I like this book.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: I hate it, Adrian, I have a despising hate for
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: thrown mainly through the Legends books.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, I was gonna say these ones. Okay, okay.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: When when we were reviewing the Legends books, specifically the
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: Legends Throng trilogy, I despised him, and I think more.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: So because I was like, this.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: Fool is treated and written like a god, and I
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: hate it. This dude is like writing himself into this novel,
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: knowing everything before even Luke and Leah and Han like,
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: I hate how precise he is, like months in advance.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. They
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: broke it down in this book. You were in his
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: brain in this book.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: Did you read or did you audio? Book? I I audio?
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: But it was so good. It was so good. This
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: was great.
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: I like the way the audio changes with the reverb
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: when he is like thinking, and oh as soon as
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: soon as he did that, like the very first time,
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: I was like, son of a Bitch.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like this book. Son of a Bitch. And
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: all of them are just just the first one.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: We're doing the first one now, we're going to do
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: the other two at a later date. Uh, And we're
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: going to compile the last pieces of these episodes and
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: make it into one throng review. Because Katie has done
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: these like a thousand times over the this book, so
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: so I haven't been able to put it out there
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: in the ethos.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: So we're going to combine all these episodes.
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: When we're going to talk about them and uh and
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: make it into one episode.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I I hate how much I like this book.
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: It was so good.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: See, I think I think we talked about this with
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: Air to the Empire is that you're getting the Republic's
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: viewpoint of Thron very few times in Air to the
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: Empire trilogy, are you getting Thron's perspective? Yeap, And so
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: for this you're getting his perspective or you're getting Vanto's perspective.
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: We can leave a Rinda Price in a dark, dark
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: corner like, so you're getting the close knit perspectives on Thron,
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: which is helping you understand how he thinks and how
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: he approaches things. Yeah, and for me, I liked it.
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: I liked this because it feels almost like a compliment
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: to Air to the Empire, Like you could take this
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: trilogy realistically and put it with Air to the Empire
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: and it still works. And that's why Zhon wanted to
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: write this in the way that he did, so that
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: way he wasn't covering the same territory twice with Ron.
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: I think that's a very important perspective that not a
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: lot of people have understood with him taking this book
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: and doing it in this way.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: So and I think that's one of the main things,
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: Like you said, the perspective of this book, I was
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: getting it, like you said, through the Republic, like the
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: I was supposed to hate him, I was supposed to
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: despise him. I'm they Zohn wrote it in a way
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: that I was very frustrated with his character being around
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: every corner, stopping Luke and Han and just super frustrated.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: Here he was the protagonist.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: He was the one you were rooting for. Oh yeah,
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: that doesn't go away either.
• 57:53
  Speaker 7: No, it doesn't get worse in the next two And
• 57:58
  Speaker 7: like I was just like okay, and and the racism,
• 58:03
  Speaker 7: I was just like God, like.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: Oh man, like it was everywhere man.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: And I was just like, they're gonna make me like Thron,
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: I hate this book.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: Why would you do this?
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: I was so like, if you go back and listen
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: to these episodes, Agrian, I was, I was like, this
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: book is stupid. I like, I I could appreciate like
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: the legends, you know, the whole thing about it. I appreciate,
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: you know, Luke and Leah and han I, I appreciate
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: all that, but Thron is stupid. He shouldn't be written
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: like this. He's basically stealing the pin from Zoon himself
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: and writing it to where he wins everything, and I
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: hate it.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: And here to get to alliances. It's gonna be so good.
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: It's gonna be so good, Adrian, We're doing that in
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: two weeks's.
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: And then you're gonna go watch it and you're gonna
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: watch a Soka again and you're gonna be like, oh,
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: this is why he's he's he's freaking Sherlock Holmes.
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: In this freaking book, like and I was like, shit,
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: I actually really like this, and then and then can
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: end okay, when like, I also really appreciate uh Eli because.
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: Eli where where is mantal?
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: Eli is the reader.
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: He's like, Okay, I don't know if I should like you,
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: but okay, I'm actually a little frustrated because you're like
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: putting me down and not like now I'm forced to
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: like stay with you. When my horizons were like all
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: right there and I could have done so many different
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: things with my life and now I'm stuck with you.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: And then like he starts to.
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: Think like Thron, and I think that's what I hate
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: more than anything, is me. The person who hates Thron
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: is actually liking the fact that Thron taught somebody m
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: hm to be great commander. This dude like his a strategist.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: Like it's it's insane.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: But at the very end, when they find out who
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: is oh uh is it?
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: Is it night Wolf for night Watch or what?
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: What?
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 6: What?
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: Was it? Nice One? Yes?
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: When Eli realizes who nice One is and they start
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: talking like even Eli is like it's clicking for him.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: Finally he's like, oh ship, hold on a second, Thron
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: played all of us mm hmm, like when when it
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: started to connect, even the smaller pieces of the very
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: beginning were and that was what That's why I was confused.
• 1:01:00
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  Speaker 2: I open this book and I start listening to it.
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  Speaker 2: I start reading it, and I'm like, Thron isn't a
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: part of the empire right now?
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: What is this?
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: He's wait, he's he's a Are.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: They are they capturing it, what's going like, I was
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: so confused. I was so confused at the beginning of
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: this novel.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: And then how long.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: Is cover to cover? Like time span of this book
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: do we know?
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: Question?
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: According to the Wikipedia it's twenty five fifteen bby two
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: two bby.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so there's there's some time. But like he
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: moves up the ranks so quickly as an alien.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: I don't think like like Palpatine promotes this dude personally,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: and Palpatine hates every alien species alive. Yeah, he would
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: kill them all if he could. That's how impressive he was.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: Either or that's how scared of him he was. Yeah,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: he's keep this too close.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: At the very end, at the very end, when Throun
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: just like is like, hey, I'm gonna call your bluff
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: right now. I have this hand and he's like, so
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: what's the death Star? I was like, oh shit, yeah.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: And the fact then you're gonna hate then you're just
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: gonna hate Tart, You're you're gonna hate every other grand
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: moth more. The more you get to know this version
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: of Thron, Yeah, wells gonna be more of an asshole.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: Well that was like we.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: We see these small little moments with Parkin, and you know,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: that's where Price, you know, really comes into play because
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: like Price, I immediately I immediately recognized the name because
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: of Rebels, and I was like, okay, so how is
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: this going to play out?
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: And the way she.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: Just like weasels her way into that position, I'm just like,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: I don't.
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  Speaker 3: Clay, you did better than me because I read this
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: book before I watched Rebels.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: Okay, So that's why.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: I can't stand a random because I'm like, this is
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: a tritagonist book, and really it needed to be the
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: dual protagonist with Eli at Thron Like I did not
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: like having a Renda's perspective in this book.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: It because this was my first duel. It helped everything
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: go full circle mm hmm. But I still when you
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: see the trilogy of characters, this is still an Eli
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: Throng book for sure. And like I kind of because
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: I recognized her immediately, I unfortunately didn't really have any
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: like worry for her character in the spots where I
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: was like, like, like she gets jumped in the in
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: the in the bottom levels, of course, I'm like, nothing's
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: gonna happen her.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: She's fine.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: And then like near the end when she's like trying
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: to save her family and stuff like, oh, you know,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: she's probably gonna take the gun and shoot the dude,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: and that's exactly what happened.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: I'm just like, yeah, whatever.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: See I was rooting for her to die both times.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: But see Eli, I don't recognize that name, and I like,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know who this character is, and so like
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: I was rooting for him, and I was like, okay,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: all are like what, like, you're good, you gotta get promoted,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: like if Thron's really a good friend, which oddly enough
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: it kind of.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: Feels like he is, which is really weird to think.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: About, and like he finally gets promoted, and like you said,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: he's he's.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: A good strategist, he's a good commander.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: He's he's teaching, and he's giving.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: Eli the patience.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: That's more surprising than me knowing who Thron is in
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: the future. He's giving Eli the patience, Like oh look again, hey,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: what do you see?
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: This is definitely a tale of two perspectives on Thorn's character,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: because do you see why people are like, yeah, that's
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: not Thron in Rebels is like that Thron is not
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: He's impatient, he doesn't teach, but like this Thron that
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: you get in the book, he wants other people to
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: learn and grasp what he's doing.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: So here's the question, No, do we see in the
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: next two books do we see Thron devolve to who
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: he is in Rebels?
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: I don't think so, because so this book leads up
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: to what is it season two where he goes to Lothal,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: and so then he you basically get season two of
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: Rebels and then you get Thrown Alliances or no, it's
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: actually season three of Rebels because he's only in two seasons.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: So this book, remember Rinda's like, I have rebel activity,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: but we're talking we're.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: Gonna get thrown after Rebels too, like time.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: No, so here's what. So this leads into season three
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: of Rebels, and then after season three of Rebels, you
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: have thrown Alliances, and then that leads into season four
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: of Rebels, and when Thron takes his break in season
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: four of Rebels where he leaves for like four or
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: five episodes or whatever, there's Throng treason.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, so.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: Everything is kind of pulling out. So this was like
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: your prequel to Rebels season three, okay, and then everything
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: else is taking place between Rebel season three and season four,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: and then during season four.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: As long as we don't see the de evolution of
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: Thron into who he was in Rebels and who he
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: is in Legends, I'm good this is Throng. I'm okay
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: with saying this is I like Thron. If this is Thron, but.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: Like Rebels, I think this is throwing to Thron and
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: Rebels especially. I think in moments like when with Hara
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 4: Sindula more than yeah, I can be when he's dealing
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 4: with people who aren't fucking price, you know, stupid subordinates,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 4: I think he gets back into that.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: He does. I don't think he's been challenged by the
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: time we get do you see.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 4: Him in Rebels, I don't think he's been challenged, yeah,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 4: by anybody, So I think that he's I think that's
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 4: why Sosaka is such an interesting thing for him to
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 4: battle against in the Ahsoka shows, because he hasn't been
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: tested like that since you know, Canaan and Crew. And
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 4: I think that's why Canaan and Crew caught him off
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 4: guard so much as that he wasn't ready for He
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 4: really did think that they were just like stupid little
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 4: bugs that he was going to smack out and it
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 4: just didn't happen that way. So I think he just
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: got he got into it too late, back into his uh,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: his grindy his grindy face, because he's seen some he's
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 4: seen some stuff. You're gonna see a lot of this
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 4: man has seen some stuff. Yeah, there's a reason why he.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: Like when when he like mentions like he because he
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: like brushes it off kind of just like offhand comment.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: He's like, oh, yeah, you know Commander Skywalker and everybody's like,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: what who what are you talking about?
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: Was like and I was like, what do you mean?
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: Like in his obsession with the Clone Wars, like there
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: was so many like little things like there, and I'm like, there's.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: This masterfully he crafted, Like.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: There's there's gotta be more to this, and so if
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: I get more of that, like I'm more excited.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 4: I'm excited for alliances. Honestly, I will say, I used my.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: Credit, so I'm gonna have to get more credits on Audible,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: But I think this will be worth it because local
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: library man.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: That is also true.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: That is also true, And I'll I'll be the first
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: to admit I am looking at the camera to all
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: of you, and I'm talking into the microphone.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: You've seen my hate for Throng.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: This book makes me want to buy it, Like I
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: I will go out of my way to.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: Buy this book.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 4: You're gonna like Thrown Alliances even working Thrown Alliance is
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 4: the best one in the series.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: I think that's exciting.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm excited.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: We're covering Flashback. It's gonna be so good.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: Dude, We're covering Thrown Alliances in two weeks, so just
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: be prepared for that.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: You got time listening now?
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah? All right, Well, I think that about does us
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: for the day. Guys, anything else to talk about?
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. A lot of pat What are.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: You doing nowadays? Let the lovely listeners know where they
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: can find you. What kind of content you're pushing out
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: these days, all the works.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm going to be at GDC next
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  Speaker 4: week in SF doing a whole bunch of game reviews
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 4: and stuff.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: As always.
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• 1:10:57
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• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: Star Wars related stuff.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 4: I did put out an article of five Star Wars
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 4: games that I want to see happen in different genres,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: so that aren't just like spot pod racing, you know,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: like a dating.
• 1:11:11
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  Speaker 4: Agean, Yeah, so lots of lots stuff like that. I'm
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  Speaker 4: just trying to get ready for Star Wars celebration and
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 4: I'm hoping that, you know, we can see some more
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 4: things come out, but Star Wars wise, that's that's the latest.
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  Speaker 1: One, all right.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: Yes, of course you can always find me at Fanboy
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  Speaker 2: clay over on Blue Sky and surprisingly I have found
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  Speaker 2: my way into book talk and books to Graham and
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: I think I'm actually going to be posting my first
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: book talk video and it's a request. So if anybody's
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: listening to this and I would like to actually give
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: me some good recommendations and answers, I'm gonna be making
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: a video quite possibly tomorrow requesting recommendations. I always see
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: this all the time on Instagram and on TikTok. People
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: were like, oh, if you like this, you should read this.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: I'm going to do the opposite and I'm gonna say, hey,
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: I like this, what should I read?
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: And so I have.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: The first one is going to be based on video games.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: My top five video games. I'm going to ask for
• 1:12:37
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• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: going to do.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: Books.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, hey, if I liked this book, what
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: other books should I read? And then it'll be movies
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: and TV shows after that. So I'm trying to build
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: up my collection because again I will always blame Katie
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: for getting me into this whole love of books again,
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: and but it's absolutely fun. I am actually really excited
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: to get more and more books.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: I the reason why I don't have a credit.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: This this month is because I immediately spent it one
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: way of the Kings. I'm going to listen and listen
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: and read. I'm gonna have it in front of me
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: and read it while I'm listening. Uh, that's a big book.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: It's the biggest book I think I've ever heard stuff.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 4: I don't know if I'm down, man, this feels like
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 4: one piece to me. Anyone who tells me go read
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 4: Brandon Sanderson feels like telling me someone to go watch
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 4: like one piece.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: So so I didn't know this because again I just
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: randomly doom scrolling and then I saw this person have
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: a like thirty five book stack and They're like, oh,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: let me tell you about this universe that Brandon Sanderson wrote.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: And they were like, oh, and I'll tell you exactly
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: what order to read it, and and they were jumping
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: all over the place.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh God, what did I what did
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: I give? What did I get into? I'm going to
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: only read the one.
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  Speaker 2: Series like and if I and that's if I liked
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: the ending of this book, if it wants like, if
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: I have the want to read more, okay, I'll do it.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: But if I if I d n F this book
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: or if I just don't like it, I'm not going
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: to hate myself and be like, oh no, I have
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: to finish the series now.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 4: It's okay, guys, you don't have to do that. You
• 1:14:34
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• 1:14:38
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• 1:14:40
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• 1:14:43
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's not worth your time to spend on
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