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Christina Oxenberg Dishes On Ghislaine Maxwell · The Epstein Chronicles

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Speaker 1: Everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. One of
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the things that you'll notice when you start following the
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Epstein and Maxwell case religiously is that there's a lot
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of people in the legacy media who really don't have
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any idea what they're talking about. Sure, they have the
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basic talking points down, but they've never really scratched under
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the surface to see what is resting there, and they
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just go with the official narrative, the bland ass story
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that we've heard over and over again from the legacy
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media without going any deeper. And everybody talks about these
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names and getting to the bottom of this or that,
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and I'm on board, right, let's do it. But I
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don't understand why people don't want to start with the
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low hanging fruit. Everybody talks about all these other people
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who might have been involved, who could have been involved,
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who they think were involved, And to be honest with you,
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those that are playing politics, they have groups that they
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want to be involved, so they could use this as
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a political cudgel. But here's something for you folks to
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chew on over the weekend. Here are people that are
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directly pointed at, directly involved. According to Virginia's account. So
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let's talk about a couple of these people. Okay, why
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don't we do that? Since everybody wants names, Here are
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a few names. Glenn Dubin, Alan Dershowitz, Bill Richardson, Marvin Minsky,
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George Mitchell, and Jean Luke Brunel. Those are people that
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were directly named by Virginia as taking part in her abuse.
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So when anyone talks about, oh, we need names and
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we need lists, I automatically default to saying, well, what
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about the people we know about already? Are those not
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juicy enough for you? Is that not salacious enough for you?
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You have big time politicians named in there, you have,
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you know, Bill Richardson, George Mitchell. Really nobody wants to
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go any deeper here. Nobody's showing up at Bill Richardson's
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house and asking them a bunch of questions, where's the
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legacy media in the United States of America? Now, juxtaposed
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that with the way the Daily Mail conducted its research,
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with the way the Sun went after the Prince Andrew information,
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and it shows you everything you need to know about
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our failing ass legacy media here in America. And then
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they wonder why what is it two newspapers are going
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by the wayside per day or something like that in
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this country. It's because what they're doing is serving up
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red meat for whatever base they think they represent, and
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at the same time, they're freezing out half of their
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potential readership. Now, it's one thing to have opinion based
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articles and stuff like that, but it's completely a different
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thing to not get the feel of what people want.
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And people want some real news, people want investigative reports.
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There's a reason that podcasts are so popular nowadays because
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people simply do not trust the legacy media, and a
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lot of it has to do with stuff exactly like this.
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All of these names out there for you, and nobody's
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out there digging deep. There should be an expose on
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Bill Richardson's involvement with Virginia Roberts, And if he didn't
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do it, then this would be the perfect chance for
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him to clear his name, right, George Mitchell, Marvin Minsky,
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Glenn Dubin, Alan Dershowitz. We're talking about huge names, folks.
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Are those names not big enough for people? I mean,
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I'm sure there's other names, there's other people who took
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part in the abuse. But remember it's not what we know,
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it's what we can prove. And for me, I think
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that if you brought in these guys and you started
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putting the screws to them, how many other people would
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they give up? How many other people would they say, Hey,
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look this guy was there too. I'm not going down
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on my own. So those are some names right off
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the bat for people to dive into and look at.
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But it doesn't seem like people are really interested in that.
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What it seems like they're interested in is saying, oh,
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what are the names, so that they can try and
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find names that will help them politically. And that's just
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ridiculous because guess what, folks, if you're looking to use
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this story as a political cudgel on your opponents, you're
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going to be in big trouble because both sides of
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the aisle were waist deep dicking around with Jeffrey Epstein
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and that's just how it goes. Those are just the facts.
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I know everybody wants to use this case to, you know,
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score those points, but I hate to be the one
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to break it to you, but both sides of the
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aisle are absolutely corrupt. Just take a look at the
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hush fund just take a look at how they've ignored
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this basically for this whole entire time, and it tells
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you everything you need to know. So before we start
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talking about the other names, I think that it will
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be a good idea to start here, all right. So
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we have an article from a news nation and the
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headline exclusive former associate says, we know the names in
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Epstein's eight. So what they're talking about there are the
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eight John does. I posted an episode about that, the
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eight John does from the defamation suit that Maxwell was
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protecting and then decided that it wasn't worth the wait,
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so she stopped protecting them as far as asking the
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judge to keep the name sealed. So those are the
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eight that they're talking about here. This article was authored
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by Brian Enton and Liz Jason. Now I like Brian Entton,
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and I think he does good work when it comes
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to missing people, but this really isn't in his wheelhouse.
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He's not completely hip to what's going on here as
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he is to those missing persons cases. Right, Like his
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work with Gabby Patito was top notch, probably the best,
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honestly of everybody who was covering that case. I have
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to give a lot of props to Brian Enton, but
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this is a whole different ballgame over here, and you're
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not just gonna show up on the scene when it
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comes to the Epstein case and have a complete handle
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on what's going on. So this interview with Christina Oxenberg
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you can kind of get a feel for that. News
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Nations Brian Enton spoke with former Jeffrey Epstein associate Christina
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Oxenberg about the discussions she had with Epstein's partner Glene Maxwell,
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including talk of secret recordings involving some famous people. Look,
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we all know that that's common knowledge. Remember what Maria
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Farmer told us about the whole place being wired up,
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Remember what Virginia said. So, yeah, there's definitely surveillance. The
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question is where did all of this stuff go. There's
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a lot of people that think the FBI is sitting
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on it, and honestly, I have no idea, But it's
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possible that one of his associates snaked it in Dyke
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or Khan grabbed the footage and dipped with it. Maybe
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it was all hiding out at Zoro Wrench. We all
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know they didn't raid Zoro, so it would be the
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perfect spot to hide something. Yeah, Maxwell was sentenced to
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twenty years in prison on Tuesday for helping epstein sex
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trafficking operation. No, she was imprisoned because she was trafficking
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girls to Jeffrey Epstein. That was what the complaints said.
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That is what the charges were. She's been accused of
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grooming vulnerable girls as young as fourteen. Convicted, you mean
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for Epstein and keeping a meticulous little black book for
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the rich and famous people he dealt with. Now, I
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guess I have to go ahead and post the episodes
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about the Black Book again. I have two, two pretty
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long episodes about the Black Book and the contents of
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the Black Book and how a journalist from Mother Jones
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called all of the names in that black book. In February,
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one of those men, Prince Andrew, settled a sexual abuse
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lawsuit with Virginia Roberts, who says she was groomed and
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trafficked by Epstein and Maxwell, who says, man, this is
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a pretty poorly written article. Guys, who says, No, that's
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what happened. See all the payouts she got. You see
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how Epstein ended up getting I mean indicted and was
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gonna get convicted. You see how Maxwell went to prison. Yeah,
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not alleged, Okay, this happened. Oxenburg is Prince Andrew's cousin
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and a former friend of Maxwell. She believes Maxwell has
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worked secret deal and will end up in the United Kingdom. Wow,
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I wish I believed in those fantasies. That's not gonna happen.
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That is not going to happen. Zero chance Glenn Maxwell's
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ending up in the United Kingdom's folks, zero chance. Brian Entdon,
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do you think we'll ever find out the names? Do
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you have any idea who they are? Christina Oxenberg? I
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think we know the names. They are former presidents Trump, Clinton,
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ed whod Barock over in Israel. So there's a couple
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of president's names for you right there. A very mauthy
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lawyer who lives in Boston, Alan Dershowitz. They are on
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the flight logs in the Little Black Book. However, are
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they more responsible than Golaine? I am not a victim,
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so I'm going to see things differently. No, of course
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they're not more responsible than Golaine. What sort of what
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does that even mean? Kahlaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein had
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a leadership role here. They're the ones most responsible. Then
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the sick backed bastards who came in and did the abusing.
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They're right there next to them, Brian Entton. Even if
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they're not respond not more responsible if they were still
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a participant at times with some of these girls. Shouldn't
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their names be made public? Christina Oxenberg? Well, the answer,
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of course is yes, everything should be public and all
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bad people should be punished. I'm all for it. You know,
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sex rings have gone on forever. This is not new.
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This has nothing to do with privilege and money. Oh
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yes it does. That has everything to do with that.
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This whole entire operation couldn't have functioned without privilege and money.
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This particular group was to satisfy Jeffrey's proclivity for underage girls.
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That was part of it. It was also to get
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that compromise. Why does everybody forget about that? And I'm
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very cautious whenever people come out and start trying to
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steer the conversation away from the actual facts. This wasn't
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just about Epstein's proclivities. He could have fed those proclivities
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on his own. His proclivities were harnessed and used as
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a vehicle to get somewhere else. That's the problem with
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the whole thing. If Jeffrey had just wanted beautiful young ladies,
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there's no problem. But he liked children, Oh there's a problem,
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all right. If he's trafficking these beautiful young ladies, that's
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a big problem. Now. If he can have all these
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beautiful young women around him that are of age, a
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consensual age, and they want to consent to having relations
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with him, that's not my business. I don't care, really,
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not my here's the thing, folks, for those of you
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who are newly listening to the show, just found it.
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Just so we're clear, I don't care what you do
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in your bedroom. If you want to marry your toaster,
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that is not my business. I do not care as
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long as it has to do with consenting adults and
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no children are involved. Do whatever you want in your bedroom.
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You want to dress up like the Grim Reaper and
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have your spouse dress up like Billard ted, that is
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not my business. Have a blast. Since nineteen ninety three,
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I knew that she Maxwell and Jeffrey used a private
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plane because that was another instance where I spent three
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months with them. They were on the plane every week end,
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and in nineteen ninety seven, in this crazy meeting, she said,
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Maxwell told Oxenburg, the plane is hooked up with audio
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and video. We have everyone on tape. Why is she
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eliciting things that, in the years to come would be
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massively incriminating. I didn't think to ask, who do you
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mean by everyone? I figured she meant anyone who wouldn't
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want to be on tape. Well, the whole reason she's
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so brazen about it is because they had the protection.
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You're not this brazen about shit if you're not being protected.
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And again, I'm not one of these people that's gonna
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sit here and tell you there's a group of guys
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in a room right now and they run the whole world.
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That's not what I mean. But if you don't think
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that there are black ops being run by intelligence, I
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don't know what to tell you, because there are. And
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if you think that they wouldn't use a guy like
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Epstein and him molesting children and trafficking people as a tool,
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you're also wrong. Look at all of the scumbags that
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they've been in bed with throughout the years. Brian Enton,
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where do you think those tapes are now, Christina Oxenberg?
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I think there's certainly more than one copy of everything.
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They must have they must have also been updated. There
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would obviously be more than one copy, and I agree
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with that there's definitely tapes out there. The question is
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where I suspect that Darren Kahn or Richard Endyke had
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Excuse me, Darren Endyke or Richard Kahn had something to
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do with that. We saw them leaving the house with
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a bag full of stuff. Said it was just you know,
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clothes and a hoodie and bs. But who the hell knows, right,
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I'm just spitballing here. I don't have any inside information.
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Believe me when I tell you the sdn WY doesn't
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want to talk to me. Brian Enton. Now that she's
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been sentenced and she's on her way to federal prison
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for twenty years, do you think she's going to start
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naming names? Do you think she's going to tell people
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where those tapes are? Christina Oxenberg, I think all the
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deals have already been made. This is a fact. I
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agree with that as well. I don't know anything. This
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is just my hunch. I think the deals have been
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made already, and that's why she's alive. Because Jeffrey died
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on August tenth in the morning, but on August ninth,
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which was a Friday. His lawyer came out on the
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steps of the courthouse and said, Jeffrey's gonna start naming names,
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and he was dead in the morning. Look, she's not
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wrong about the Epstein situation, Doug shown. His lawyer has
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come out and said, Look, Epstein was not, let me repeat,
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not suicidal. But yet all of a sudden, all of
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those wacky circumstances that led up to his death occur
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camera guards in a cell with TARTAGLIONI. None of it
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made sense then and it still doesn't make sense even
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less now. Honestly, Brian Enton, do you think she's at
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risk right now? Christina Oxenburg, No, I don't. I mean
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she may want to sell harm that I cannot speak of.
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I think the deals have already been made. Well, that
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might be a fact. She is at risk by other inmates.
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There is no doubt about that. Anyone who discounts that,
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even at Danbury, doesn't know what they're talking about. And
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she is being rewarded already of the twenty years that
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you mentioned for her sentence already to have been taken
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off because of time served. She's going to be transferred
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to the UK one hundred percent. I do believe that
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will happen, and once she's there, she'll sell out the
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back door. It's not going to happen. I mean, I
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guess it's possible, but I just don't see it. What
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does the United States get out of that? Besides a
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pr nightmare. There's nothing that they get out of that.
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There's nothing that the UK can offer us in return.
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I mean, maybe Julian Assange, Brian Enton is there is?
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There Just that many powerful people behind the scenes doing
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secret things. What's going on Christina Uxenberg? Well, when you
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say why doesn't she out the list? Why would she?
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They're all on the same team. They're helping her. Now
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that's veering off into the lands where I usually don't travel.
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Who are they that are all helping her? That's the
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question I always ask, who are they? And nobody can
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give me that answer now for my money, there's no
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doubt that she was being run as an asset by
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the intelligence community, no doubt about that, her and Epstein both.
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But those days are over. And once you're burned as
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an asset, well that's it. They burn all ties to
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you and you're left with nothing to give up. For
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as much as I bash on the intelligence services, when
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it comes to this kind of thing, this is what
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they're good at. They can really cover their attracts. So look,
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when it comes to Maxwell and naming names, who knows
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what she's going to do, But for my money, Like
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I said in the very beginning of this article, what
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about the names just named earlier? What about the names
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that Virginia has put out there for years? To me,
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it seems like that's a logical place to start. And
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once we open that door, who knows what the room
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will look like. If you'd like to contact me, you
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