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Cruz Sánchez de Lara, sobre su nueva novela, 'En la corte de la zarina': “Catalina mandaría matar a Putin" · Autoras de palabra con Rosa

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All of a sudden just like a sigh. He had gone from being a
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restless child to being a foreigner in the bed of the Zarina. The first
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Spaniard had arrived at the place where the flames of hell and clouds gathered,
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to an exotic place on the shores of the Baltic. I find it incredible
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to be lying here naked in this bed of the Winter Palace, precisely in
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this Majesty, in the court of the Zarina cru Sánchez de Lara. In
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word authors with welcome pink. Thank you very much. That is a pleasure,
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a privilege to be with one of the people who reads a very nice
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pyropus in Spain, because his pyropus very nice because reading well, that is,
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reading we have all, but reading well to everyone, because thank you
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very much, very grateful, very honored. Those who speak the interview are
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none other than José Rivas Boyons and Catalina la Grande' s lover plumquet.
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When he lends you, they get into this cross character. I think we
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all know José de Rivas, because when he started, when it was the
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invasion of Ukraine, there were a lot of articles in all the newspapers about
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him. But as we go so fast, we tiptoe. Above all,
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and if you think that the main street of Odesa is called down Skaya by
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the name of a Spanish, it is very impressive and sometimes the Spaniards sin
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to forget the part of the story that, moreover, makes me think a
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lot, because they are characters of three centuries ago who spoke six languages that
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were planted in a totally unknown country and became part of the Court, of
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the Court, but of the powerful court. And I think this works for
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you to lower you a good lesson, it works very well. I believe
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that deep down we will all have heard of José de Rivas, but we
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have probably not paid attention to him, which is one of the worst things
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that are happening to us right now, which we do not pay attention to,
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we will have read above. It was recognized in the history of Russia,
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Russia, as we are speaking directly. The history of Russia was recognized.
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They have many files, especially in Ukraine. In fact, the only
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one. The other day I was talking to the Minister of Defense and she
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told me that she was very surprised, because the statue of Joseph of Ribas
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is the only one they have not removed that has to do with Russia,
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of the city. There' s plenty there, in the city, that
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is cheese and then in Russia. You think he acted as Potenking' s
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plenipotentiary to sign the peace between the Russians and the Turks, that is,
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he is part of the history of Russia, not probably of the generals,
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but he was one of the eagles of Potenking, he does figure his name
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there. He got married in the Amber House. It is all so important
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that I of course today does not study history a Russian school, but he
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is part of the history of the part I believe that besides the part that
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is now most important, because Putin is a megalomaniac obsessed with Potenqing and with
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being a Romanov and I think we will learn a lot from the current history
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of Russia and his obsession with Ukraine. Reading in the court of the Zarina.
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I' ve learned a lot. I agree before I leave this question.
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In Spain he is sufficiently recognized. There' s nothing in Spanish that
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doesn' t even have a postage stamp. We' ve already sent a
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book to the mail president to see if we can fix that. In Spain
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a lot of people don' t know who he is. In fact,
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when you ask me about what people are written about illusion, people are surprised
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and excited, and I think it' s a character that we have to
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recognize a little more, especially because of a question of ego, because we
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now give ourselves that we are worth a lot and that there are people who
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have done it with much less resources, with at least means and a time
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when everything was much more difficult. I think so, Catherine was not of
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pure beauty, but she was imposing, exceptionally imposing. He had a point
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in his collarbones that rubbed perfection, a small space located right where the skin
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cleft begins. The tsarina. It was thus a whole body and the face
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of power and authority. Not always the most beautiful people are more attractive and
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the erotic power we have is associated with the power of men. Yes,
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but this novel is a novel of female power and exercise of female power in
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the s so sense with the use of sex, with even the objectification of
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men, as in history women have been cosified for pleasure. And the truth
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is that Catalina Grande is a personajazo, is that it is a story that
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is full of brutal characters, because to me it seems impressive how that German,
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whom her husband had treated fatally, overthrew her husband with her lover,
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with her favorite and then killed him and took power in a way. He
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was killed in his name and was no longer going to get his hands stained
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Leke took power in one way. To study it, that is, I
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have learned so much from it with its frustrations, because it had an enormous
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frustration that tried to end slavery and the entire Russian ligarchy stood up and was
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not able. But even with those frustrations that of the great characters that,
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as much as they get, they always have a little bit of spin stuck
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in them. I love it, I like it. I' m very
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dazzled with Catherine' s character. You can see it and you can see
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it in the novel. The truth is, it' s very impressive.
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It' s very impressive. He had everything against you, but he knew
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how to take advantage of the opportunities. That' s what you' re
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selling out in my books, because I, who' s a little prejudiced,
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work hard on the prejudice of people who don' t take advantage of
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opportunities, I don' t get over it. So I think people who
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succeed, people who eventually write their name with mayuscular in the field that they
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like, either in the field they prefer, because it can be the best
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hairdresser in history, the best one, it doesn' t always have to
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be a tsarina, because then the story would be very limited. But I
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think that the people who write are a mayuscular man, they' re people
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who head- on to take advantage of the opportunities. That' s clear
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to me. You present Joseph of Ribas through a woman, his wife,
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through tsarina, the exactly good tsarina. It' s just that I think
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I speak better in the mouth of a woman. I think my words are
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women' s words and, in fact, even though you have to get
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into the character of the male roles. But I think what distinguishes me is
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that I think with my head and my heart at the same time and that
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and I' m not ashamed, because I think that happens to all of
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us, but I' m not ashamed of it. I have no modesty
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to express emotions and I have tried to present it through many women. I
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mean, tsarina is the most overwhelming. But José de Rivas went through the
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bed of the lovers' taster. Yeah, now we' ll talk about
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September. It happened, i e, he has a woman who is also
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a very beautiful story, and the story with his daughters, i e,
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I think that Joseph' s character is drawn a lot by the silences and
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eyes of other people. I have tried to do so more than he himself,
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more than he himself did. I think one of the things that defined
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José de Ribas is that he knew how to handle other people' s egos,
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because his egos were not too big. He had always lived surrounded by
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people. His father was a man who was talking to them all the time
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about greatness. His mother was an Irish noble then lived the surrounded by greatness
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and I think he learned to draw everything quiet and to look for the strategy
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that always the best way to do the real strategy, to make it possible
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is to make the other one feel comfortable. And that' s all you
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have to work for. The ego has said quiet and strategy note. That
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profile is almost more of a woman' s, at least a few years
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ago. Well, depending on what you mean, look. For example,
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Paul, the son of Catherine, was a bully, Peter the Cruel was
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a bully and were boasters. I believe that silence is typical of intelligent people.
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Many times we fill the silence so as not to listen to the density
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of the importance of that lack of words and we talk about talking or people
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come home and put on TV but the silence is that the silence is very
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good counselor, very good counselor. And there have been very powerful, very
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important, very quiet men. I like it, I like it so much
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better to stare and think about what I' m thinking of putting you in
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the head like a bomb. Yeah, we' d better talk sex sex
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in this story over a hundred lovers had. I think that' s good.
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She recognized it in her biography. I think it would be a lot
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of father, surely because if that were true, it was a question of
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gender, if it were a man, it would have multiplied by the party.
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I don' t eat an impact account, but it' s true
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that I was very demanding. Then I had to pass a filter. Not
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that they' re the real tasters. The taster is the singer, yes,
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yes, she had mostly everyone, but the one who liked it the
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most was Praskovia Bruce, who had like her a relationship of complicity and was
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almost a game. She didn' t taste them, she tasted them that
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she wanted. He was straight up and said that I' m not poor,
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either you could look for life or go into exile, because no one
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would want to be with him. But when they passed the filter, the
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least thing that surprises me about this is that they went to the doctor.
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They would happen if the taster gave the clothes hostess, that is, the
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taster could be beaten whatever it was, but to me it seemed much more
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logical that they would first pass us by the doctor. Then they passed the
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taster, but not and had a very special relationship between them, because Praskovia
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Bruce was not a very educated woman, much read or very educated for the
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court. The other taster of Montes that I had that had yes, shared
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with her also her knowledge of art, but with her. With her it
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was merely a matter of fun of pleasure. They had their rules not written
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among themselves, but in fact, they later stopped being friends because the taster
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kept sleeping with one who was already Catherine' s favorite and that' s
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where the relationship ended. But it' s a fascinating story. I mean,
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the complicity of that. These are women who, for broom, just
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want to talk about sex, sex and sex. And in fact, when
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Catherine and discovers that she is with her lover, what she does is that
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she returns her to her husband' s house, because this lady was married
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to the governor of Santersburg, so that' s what we say about the
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exercise of power, because it has probably been the power that has been very
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sexualized in the hands of men, because they have had it. But there
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are cases like this, in which the woman, also good Catherine, needed
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to have fun and needed to feel that she kissed on the floor where she
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stepped that feeling desired. Of course. I think we all need to be
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loved and desire is a way to feel loved. And that' s what
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anyone says he doesn' t like to feel wanted. Eyes, there are
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people who need to feel wanted by everyone and that' s already sick.
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But I say by the person that you like if we all need to feel
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that we like each other and that we are loved. You say there are
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people who need to love them compassion and others who love them with loyalty and
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affection to be loved and loved. It was Sofia' s wish. Now
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Catalina, isn' t that everyone' s wish? What you just said.
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Yours and mine are exactly We all want him to love us. They
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want us because I don' t think I know. I mean, in
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couples' stories there are no written rules, but I, for example,
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in my Cartesian scheme and maybe I' ve moved it a little bit that
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I wouldn' t want the man who loves me to want others or the
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man who wants me to love others. I don' t mean, I
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think we like that in the end. It' s not always there,
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but it' s when you find yourself very pretty. Be unique? Be
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unique? Be unique in your home, at least then the rest, but
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at least power. It heals to talk about sex, which is none other
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than the exercise of its own power. You don' t think so,
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it' s that in the end it' s sex it' s an
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exercise of power, but not just power with the other person. It'
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s an exercise in power over yourself. It' s where you forget that
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you' re in control, that you' re exercising in all the astics
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of your life and you' re disillusioned and you' re more relaxed than
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ever. And that' s what I think in this novel is very much
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like. It was very cold, they didn' t have television, they
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were many enemies only peace and already needed some place to give free rein to
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their instincts, their desires and the flesh that in the end we all have
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a lot of soul, but we have a lot of flesh. Also who
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were the Catalans, the ladies of the Court. That was the gynecée Catherine
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had riding, which were great, because well, in fact, Joseph de
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Ribas' s wife was one of them. And I think it was Catherine
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' s salvation, because Catherine spent her life making decisions with men, armies,
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the arts. But then she had her area, her support network,
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with which they were always at her side, with which she could have intimate
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confidences. But there was a lot of politics there, because in forums where
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there have been women there has always been a lot of politics, even if
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it has had to use the mouth of men to be able to translate it.
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But they always knew who to tell and what to say to everyone.
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But Catherine was politically a woman who listened to both men and women. But
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then she decided yes, she had, she had a lot of judgment,
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she was very enlightened, she read a lot and she had a great Catherine.
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I had an advantage that I wish they had now, a quality that
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I wish I had an hour. Many politicians who thought of the good of
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Russia, that is, she wanted to transcend for the sake of her empire,
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not for her personal good, or to be done. She always thought
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big and big and in fact, her successes were very praised and very criticized
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and she was a very envied woman, like all those that are worth,
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of course, when you' re worth, when they' re just not
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able to control. And what you just said is also that she was chasing
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good for Russia, which now, well, possibly now that' s not
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done. And besides, look at Puting Putin, I think he wants to
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have the benefits of a good Roman, of a potenting. You know that
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one of the first things they did with the invasion of Ukraine was to desecrate
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Potenkin' s grave to take him to Russia. They say it' s
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almost an obsession, that it' s fascination what Puting has with Potenking.
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But of course it remains only with the part of the achievements, only then
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the scruples, because the parks and good in the forms are very different,
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because the Greek project of Potenking was very different and, in fact, the
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principles were others. I mean, I, uh, my Puting is really
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scared. A lot of fear, a lot of fear. I find it
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a merciless human megalo, and I think people are going to understand much better
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how dangerous it is when they' ve read the book. I think this
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book is meant to understand how dangerous it is. Last Pesp shows it perfectly.
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I think so. If I had that titular Catalina, as is the
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situation in Russia now, what do you think I' d say good.
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I think Catherine would be scared if she raised her head and saw Caralinda become
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Russia, she wouldn' t like anything. I think he' d already
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do with putting what he did to her husband, which is that he had
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him killed and then he put on his certificate that he had died of a
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hemorrhoid attack. Something like that. I' d already check him out the
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same thing he did with Peter the Cruel. I think Catherine would be horrified,
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horrified because she always thought a lot about strategies and form. In other
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words, she always thought long before starting a war, tried to exhaust other
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roads and José de Ribas with his dear Odessa, what she would say would
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be with her heart broken. In fact, or that was his creation.
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There was a very small village, of one hundred and seventy inhabitants and the
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setting up of the Russians to make the port, to have a great port
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in the south was hit and he had to make the ball to the satiety
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of a favorite who had then Catherine, who was quite short of intelligence to
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get. I mean, he got Russia to get it where it is today
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against all the voices of Russia, that is, it was his obsession,
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his vocation, his need and the truth is that I think he would be
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suffering, he would have the soul split in two, because Odessa was not
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born for this or desalu Born to be destroyed by the Russians or that was
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born to be a window. He wanted me to be the Napoleons of the
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Russian Empire. Another important reason for reading the book you have named powerful was
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love. No doubt about it. It was love. What happens is that
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love is often a love. I mean, love is not a Disney movie.
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Love is not a Disney movie. And sometimes, because the needs,
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the situation that make history unorthodox. It was a secret marriage, because she
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understood that it was a matter of state that the farina was married and they
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married secretly because he wanted to marry her all costs. And when he understood
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that Jane was going to need other men, because he already needed other women.
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They had to change the rules and those rules cost him a lot more.
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Him. It took him a lot more to assume them than she did,
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because he, in fact, had to convert that they said in Russia
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that he was Catherine' s proximite, because he had to be the one
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to choose Catherine' s every favorite, I mean, when, once they
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decide to break the monogamy, he' s choosing the following favorites, but
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they' re a love and they don' t know how to live without
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each other. He was a histrionic who used to ride some horrible numbers,
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but she made it a grace that was parting, that is, she had
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a lot of fun with power. He bragged about how well- endowed they
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were getting naked this time. How much I could for everyone to comment on
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and it was a very particular story, but it was a love story.
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I mean, Catalina died. I believe that fifty percent of Catherine' s
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death occurred on the day she died potently, her heart was broken. I
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didn' t know how to live and so death in life. Death in
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life. The tsarina prepares for her grandson' s wedding. Alexander had chosen
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for the occasion a dressing of brilliants that turned the tsarina into a pure flash.
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The throat weighed, but it was of a striking beauty. Three rows
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of stones covered the wrinkles of the neck and rejuvenated her bringing light to her
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face to be beautiful also in maturity this beautiful. The maturity is that she
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was very flirtatious. He was very flirty. She told her Catalinas all the
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time that they had to feel good about being better and better. And,
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for example, before, now everyone is taking care of themselves. But when
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she had an important guest in the palace in the mornings, the service brought
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her ice cubes so that she could see it on her cheeks and the colors
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would come out. I mean, she thought that star Guapa was part of
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making the most of you, not the way others saw you, but also
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because Russia was also a place of beautiful and spectacular women, as it is
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still today. And if not, by the way you gave yourself, the
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strength that was to see you well, yes, I think so. You
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travel to St Petersburg and you come loaded under your arm with a lot of
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books, as I always wanted. I think that if everyone bought the same
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books as I do, it would be a very morgolla business How much the
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story weighs under your arm so much, so much, especially if you have
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a discal line operated like me. History thinks a lot. But notice that
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at that time, because I went in two thousand seventeen taking advantage of the
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centenary of the Revolution to do a little bit of the whole route of the
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revolution, I then had no idea that this story was going to come into
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my life and when I started writing it, I had everything, I mean,
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I had married in such a place, I had the photo of the
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explanation. I think books still paper serves to bring you a part of the
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cities where you go. That' s not it. I just got here
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on a trip now and I' m coming with a maleton. But it
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seems to me that the relationship, that is, the relationship with the news,
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is already a different relationship. I, in fact, live from that
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now we consume through the screens, the devices. But the study, the
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quiet study, the one that inspires the soul, is a study for me
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still that I am very old in paper and it does not seem to you
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that history should not think, but try to learn from it look. I
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come, I come from another trip now and I come with a thought that
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pierces my brain, because I come from a place where they' ve tried
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to erase part of their story and it' s very frustrating and I'
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m very afraid that one day. I mean, I' m totally against
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it I mean, I' m totally against us making monuments to things that
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have been horrible in our history. But I' m very concerned that we
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' re like Americans, who don' t want to write the story and
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ultimately repeat the same. We' ve always written it. It is true
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that we have invented much of history, as they have governed one or the
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other and as they have been interested in having more contentment or less contentment.
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But it seems to me that history is very important, because I will know
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where you come from, who you are how you got here, that is,
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the future depends largely on how we interpret the past from what we have
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learned. The past has completely changed your record. Oh yes, I am
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a learned teacher of nothing, because you have learned with a master, but
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I am very happy that I have had a great time, especially because in
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this book my two passions are added, which is to study and write.
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Of course, I wish my readers, reading this book, to learn one
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tenth of what I have learned by studying, because it seems to me that
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it is a world very alien to us, that is, we all know,
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it has to be to the Romans. We have heard of Rescutin and
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such, but it is a world very alien to us. It is a
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world that is now fully connected to the present and is a very different culture
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from ours. But above all, he is a Spaniard in a Russian court,
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a Spaniard who was born in a thousand seven hundred and fifty and died
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in a thousand eight hundred, that is, a Spaniard who got in there
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and managed to be someone important. Someone very important, the plenipotentiary of Potenquin,
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to sign the peace against the Russians and Turks, so I was the
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bomb. The Zarina trusted him. In fact, I' m not going
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to be that I don' t know what to tell you not to do
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spoiler, but it has a story very close to Orlov, who was brother
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' s favorite, favorite, war minister at the time, Catherine' s
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favorite. And then he has a fabulous relationship that I love that in almost
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all my books are in a relationship of those masters of life with Betsco,
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who is a very important person, that is, he is super friend of
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the French illustrators, the one who carried all the Counselor for Education, for
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everything that had to do with the arts. In fact, he was the
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creator of the institute, the moll Smolne, that when people have gone,
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they know that then there was there. It' s hard to have a
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tremendous weight, but he rode in cadet school, that is, there are
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very powerful characters they haven' t heard of. The truth is, I
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' m very happy with the book. Very happy, because I always say
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when I read a historical novel that is an act of generosity for the reader,
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so I hope he knows how to appreciate it. Oh, I wish,
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I wish, because it' s because I believe. I like to
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read useful books. I like to learn when I read, I understand that
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since I was a little girl I need the things I read to be useful,
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because that I have always read a lot of essay and I think that
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men, although this is a fictional work, have had to fill in some
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gaps. But there are no characters that aren' t real. There'
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s not a single personage made up. Well, at some point I'
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m referring to a girlfriend who had José Derribas when he was a young boy,
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but let' s go with that and a name that I missed,
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that I couldn' t find and I had to make it up, but
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of a rather secondary character. The rest are all real characters, all real
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characters. I' m very happy. The truth is, I' m
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so happy. I' m having a great time, because that' s
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what' s important. Now I have this other phase, which is the
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promotion phase, which I think I do much worse. But it' s
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always a pleasure when you talk to people like you No. And it is
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true that in the world of literature, in the world of literary journalism,
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there are people who work a lot and that is very nice and we have
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to be very grateful to the authors, because you have read very well so
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that those who are listening to us can understand it very well. Rosa.
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Yeah, that, without you this interview wouldn' t be, well,
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yeah, son, because without you there wouldn' t have been an interview.
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Well, yeah, month goes by. I' m going to use
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the title to finish, because you say in the Court of the Zarina,
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eye, let' s go to court let' s sit in those costumes,
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which is also very well documented in the novel, with those jewels,
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with that poosity, that luxury and let' s enjoy this story, for
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nothing. Let us go to the Court of Flour for a while to forget
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about the miseries of daily life and to dream of a world I do not
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know if ideal, but idyllic, and learn and learn, so thank you
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very much. Thank you very much. A pleasure Thank you.