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Happy Halloween: spooky stories from members of the Honolulu Police and Fire Departments · The One Oʻahu Podcast with Mayor Rick Blangiardi

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  Welcome to the One Oahu podcast.
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  I'm your host, Brandi Higa, and it's officially spooky season.
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  Halloween falls on a Friday this year, which is always kind of fun.
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  And to get us in the ghoulish mood or sitting down with members
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  from several city departments this month to share some of their
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  haunted, chilling, maybe even some of their fun Halloween stories.
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  And first up from the Honolulu Police Department, Sergeant Cameron Tuitele.
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  Cam, thanks for making some time for us. Aloha.
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  Thank you for having me.
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  As a first off, tell me a little bit about yourself.
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  How long have you been with the department?
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  Which station did you work out of?
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  Where did you grow up? Where'd you go to school?
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  I want to know everything.
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  Okay.
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  Well, yeah, I've been a police officer now for almost 18 years, so it's been.
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  It's been some time of.
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  Throughout my career, I've moved out to different areas.
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  District one, district eight, district five.
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  Even within at the academy.
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  So experience a lot of different places.
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  Some fun things, some scary things.
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  So it's kind of always nice to talk about these things. Yeah.
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  And just for background, what part of the island did you grow up?
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  I grew up in town.
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  I'm a townee.
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  Yeah, but I went to Kamehameha schools.
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  You know, I learned a lot about some of the culture
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  things about our islands here and our culture here in Hawaii.
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  And so sorry to.
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  Do you do you believe in ghosts?
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  I, I, I do, I sure I do.
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  I just learn to respect them and to respect those things.
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  I do believe in and things that bad things can happen,
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  but I'm not really afraid of them, I guess you could say.
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  And so what have you personally experience when it comes to things
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  like maybe anything haunted, anything supernatural, anything like that?
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  Yeah. So,
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  at one point in
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  my career, I kind of worked out of the academy and,
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  it's pretty known to us, especially to us, that work there
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  that some, some awkward things can happen at the academy.
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  We've had lots of experiences.
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  I've heard of experiences that have happened in the past, such as,
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  seeing people walk up to some people,
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  maybe looking down and seeing feet walking up to them.
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  And when they look up, no one is there.
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  Or carts just rolling by itself
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  when there's no wind or even on campus like some of the
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  the windows are open and shut, open and shut and lots of experiences
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  that I hear about it, but I have never experienced any of it myself
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  until one time I was with my coworker and he,
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  he had explained some certain things.
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  So we were talking about Waipahu.
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  Waipahu is where our academy is located,
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  and it's actually kind of located on like the Marshall Islands.
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  And it had been known to us that these experienced happened.
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  And so at one point,
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  the department had brought in, alcohol to come in and give a blessing.
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  And so this Kahu had walked around and all of this is prior to me
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  even working at the Academy, the Kahu had walked around and he had,
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  bless certain parts of these buildings.
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  And he kind of stopped that one specific area.
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  And he had mentioned he said, you know what?
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  This area right here
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  is where a Knight marches path is walking through.
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  And he could feel it.
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  Now, being from Hawaii,
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  a lot of us are, you know, we're pretty familiar with night marches.
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  Are you familiar with the night marches?
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  I mean, we know that they're usually Hawaiian warriors or even maybe
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  some of our allies that would come down, during the night time.
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  And they marched in a procession
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  and we hear it that usually you'd hear it through the beating of the drums and,
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  it'd maybe the blowing of the pool with a conch shell, you know.
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  And so you hear of all of these things
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  anyway, so when I first started working at the Academy myself,
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  a lot of my coworkers were telling me,
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  this is the part the path comes right through here.
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  And so
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  the Academy was instructed
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  to plant TV at every corner of this building.
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  So my time there, I had now been there for about five years,
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  and I had always recognized
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  these tea leaf that were growing at the corners of our buildings,
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  and it was usually taken care of by some of our maintenance workers.
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  So they would go there
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  and they would water the tea leaves and everything would be good.
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  Well,
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  as time goes on and being there for five years, maintenance workers change
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  and whatnot, and,
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  you know, you get to know different people and maybe sometimes the word doesn't
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  get down that.
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  So certain parts of their jobs need to happen.
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  Well, one
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  morning I came back to my office
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  and the cabinets that were on
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  the walls were all on the floor.
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  So in other words, these big wooden cabinets that house
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  a lot of our VHS tapes, old, old records and everything, which had just fallen.
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  And I looked over and I said, and this was a long it was a ten foot
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  long cabinet.
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  And I said, how did this happen?
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  It wasn't too heavy.
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  There wasn't that much heavy stuff in it.
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  And when I looked at the wall, I could see
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  the nail was still in the wall and it wasn't bent.
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  So it's almost as if someone had grabbed these cabinets,
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  ripped it straight out, and then just dropped it.
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  Not like where it just kind of fell over and the weight of it took it down.
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  Bending the nails.
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  No, these nails were straight in and the cabinets were ripped out.
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  So I was just like, I didn't understand how something like that could happen.
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  And it reminded me
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  of these stories, of these ghosts that other people had experienced.
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  And so when I went outside and I walked around the building
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  and I looked two sections of where those TVs were planted
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  were all withered away.
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  So for I don't know how many months now,
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  someone wasn't caring for those tea leaves and they started to die away.
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  You know, I would think that maybe
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  that played a factor to where we couldn't keep it blessed throughout.
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  Maybe it was just a reminder for us to to take care of it.
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  So guess what?
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  I did the first thing that morning.
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  Planted some new tea leaf, put in some water.
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  Now all of those tea leaf are pretty lush
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  and green, and I have yet to experience something.
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  Something, you know, again, there at the Academy.
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  There at the academy.
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  What have you experienced anything else like that in during your time?
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  For me,
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  no, I haven't personally experienced, but,
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  during my career, I belong to different areas, done patrol and whatnot.
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  One of the things that I did was I kind of helped with,
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  making videos and stuff for the department.
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  And so we were tasked for some years to create ghost stories every Halloween.
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  And so we did, and we posted it on YouTube.
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  So we have maybe about ten different stories.
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  In order to get those stories, it was always our job to go out
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  and find officers with these experiences.
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  And there's one that I really that I enjoyed.
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  Joy of. Creating.
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  Because it allowed me to talk to these officers. But,
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  it's a story that an officer had
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  while she was a young officer on the poly.
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  She didn't want she didn't
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  want herself to be on this video, but she she didn't mind the story going out.
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  She said she was a young officer.
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  And at that time, during the evenings, it was our job
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  to the HPD job to go out and lock the gates.
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  So every night at around 10 p.m.
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  or so, she would go and she'd lock the gate.
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  So she drove up with her blue and white on her police vehicle.
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  She went to the first gate and she locked it,
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  and then she got in her car, and then she started to drive around.
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  And as she drove around, she passed the lookout portion going to the other side.
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  When she got to the other side, she saw a lady walking on the road.
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  This lady was dressed in a white dress and she looked like an elderly lady.
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  Now, I don't know about you,
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  but already for me, this is already like, red flags about this is.
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  This doesn't look right.
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  But as a police officer, it's it's our job
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  to to check to make sure that people are okay.
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  And so she pulled over to this lady
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  who was kind of slowly walking on the side of the road.
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  The officer rolled down her window,
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  and then when she looked up, no one was there.
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  And then when she looked in her rearview mirror.
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  Oh, yeah, I said, check in.
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  There was the lady sitting in the back of her blue and white.
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  Now this officer, of course, she was scared,
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  but she was raised by what I would say
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  is someone who understands to respect me.
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  So she told me that I was raised, that when if you were to ever encounter
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  something like this.
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  Yeah, you just talk to them, you talk to them, you let them know
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  that you don't have any bad intentions and you just let them know.
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  And so when she saw the lady in the back, she said, oh,
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  hi, Auntie.
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  Is everything okay?
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  The lady didn't respond and so she decided to
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  just explain to the lady what her role was.
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  And she said, oh, you know, I'm Officer so-and-so,
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  and right now I'm just going to continue on doing my job
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  and I'm going to go to the next gate and lock it.
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  And when I'm done with that, maybe
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  I can take you to the other side.
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  You see, it's kind of known
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  that sometimes there are people on the poly highway
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  that just want to get over to the other side of the party,
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  and so this officer remembered that.
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  And so she told this unknown lady, she says, once
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  I lock the gate, then maybe I can take you,
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  but I can only go so far because I have to continue on with my duties.
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  So when this officer got to the next gate,
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  she locked it again, got out of her car, locked the gate.
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  When she got back in her car, the lady was still seated there.
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  So as she promised the lady,
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  she drove on and she got to the tunnels.
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  And when she
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  was driving through the polytunnels,
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  she said she felt like, a sense of relief.
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  And by the time she continued through to the end of the tunnel,
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  the lady was no longer in her backseat.
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  She went on with her duties.
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  So it's experiences like this that sometimes we we have on duty, off
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  duty whatnot, but it's the knowledge
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  of how to treat it with respect, you know?
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  Are there stations or districts?
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  You know, I you just mentioned Waipahu.
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  I feel like people want to I feel like I've heard the stories,
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  I've seen the YouTube videos as well.
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  But which stations would you say are like the most haunted districts
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  where these kind of stories pop up more often than others?
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  Okay.
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  So we've done stories.
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  One of one cool story that we talked about happens at our Kahuku station,
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  and the cocoa station is all the way up there, up north.
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  Yeah.
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  It's it's an interesting story
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  that that, involved, like a Hawaiian warrior.
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  So that one was kind of neat to hear about.
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  So you you would think
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  you would think that every, every one of these ghost stories
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  happens in some of the, older buildings,
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  that it needs to be an older building for, for experiences to happen.
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  But that's not necessarily true.
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  In fact, we did a piece on one of our newest
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  buildings, which is the White Knight station,
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  relatively newly built.
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  We still. Still need. Some construction.
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  And there was an experience that happened not that long ago with one of our,
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  offices.
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  Officer Johnson, on the on and she she experienced something where,
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  she she thought she saw,
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  a little, a little girl in the camera
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  that it was impossible for this could have got to be in.
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  So. Yeah, I mean, lots of stories, lots of fun stuff.
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  Always, always fun to watch.
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  Especially during the season. Yeah.
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  And so, cam, where will you be this year?
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  On Halloween?
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  On Halloween this year, I will be with my kids.
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  I'll trick or treating.
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  Yeah. I'll make sure that they're safe and whatnot.
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  Just having a good time.
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  But I'll tell you what.
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  My kids, they absolutely love hearing ghost stories.
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  So it's it's fun to hear these different stories from the different divisions
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  and the different departments within the city.
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  What is their favorite story that you've told them so far?
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  Their favorite story?
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  I think is the Kahuku story, though,
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  because they get to see it, you know, we recreate we recreated them on YouTube.
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  So you said this one had to do with the war.
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  What was that story exactly?
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  So that story has to do with an officer who,
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  in his young career was stationed out there in Kahuku, and he remembers
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  having a conversation with, with one of the old timer, lady officers.
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  And she said that she often saw
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  a Hawaiian warrior in the hallways of the station,
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  that this warrior was kind of dressed
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  in, Hawaiian clothing with her mother, sometimes with a weapon.
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  And she said that he doesn't really bother.
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  But to just show respect.
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  And so this officer was like, okay.
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  Yeah, no problem. That's fine.
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  Now in the Kahuku station,
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  there is a, an upper area, they call it the loft.
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  And that loft is, is kind of isolated, secluded.
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  So no one, no one is really up there.
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  And sometimes it's a it's a good spot
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  to be able to write your reports because you won't be bothered.
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  Now in this time of his career.
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  This is when all of our reports are handwritten.
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  So he actually went up there to be alone so that he could, he could,
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  get I get ahead of running his reports.
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  And while he was writing, when he looked up,
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  he said in the corner of the of the room, he saw a shadow,
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  and then the shadow got a little more clear.
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  And they said, he said the shadow said to walk towards him,
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  and he could see that the shadow was a Hawaiian warrior.
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  And he was he was nervous.
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  He was scared.
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  And the shadow actually came,
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  put its hands
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  on this officer's shoulder and almost, like, held him down.
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  And he said that
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  he wanted to scream.
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  He wanted to yell, he wanted to get up,
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  but he couldn't move and nothing could come out of his mouth.
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  And he said that he doesn't know how long this happened.
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  One minute, two minutes, five minutes.
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  He doesn't know, but he was just held there
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  and he couldn't do anything.
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  Eventually he said, the shadow
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  let go and backed back up and went back into the corner.
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  And at that moment, once that shadow disappeared or feelings came back,
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  he was able to get up and he ran down from that loft and he and he left.
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  And it's said
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  that the officers don't use that loft anymore,
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  and no one really goes up there to write reports or anything.
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  It's just kind of kept as a place
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  to not be, I guess you could say.
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  What do you think it is that that warrior stays there?
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  I don't know.
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  I don't know if he stays there or feels just.
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  I don't even know why he would have held him down.
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  But, I mean, as I as I've said throughout this,
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  I just think if we show it respect and we we don't
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  disrespect it in any way,
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  we show respect to the culture of Hawaii.
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  Yeah. I think everything is fine.
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  You know, everyone experiences things differently.
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  I don't know why he experienced it that way.
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  But, yeah, just an interesting story.
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  And what are you supposed to do if you see a nice archer?
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  What are you supposed to do? If you see a knight in my chair?
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  There are lots of things that they say they.
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  Supposed to be. Exactly.
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  So what would you say, my friends?
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  You know,
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  because, like, when you're growing up, sometimes your friends will tell you,
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  you know, you know, since they get naked, right? You know? Right.
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  Yeah. I, I don't know if.
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  You know, it.
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  Doesn't hurt your good friends if they're telling you.
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  It's so funny because I've had this conversation.
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  My, my father,
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  who was born and raised in Kaneohe, like the house that he was raised
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  on, was right there on the be right in Kaneohe Bay.
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  And there was his house
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  and there was his auntie's house right next to each other.
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  And they kind of lived on the hillside.
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  And I remember hearing stories that my dad said that I might march.
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  His trail came right between the two homes,
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  when my I don't know if I'm remembering this correctly,
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  but when my mom first married my father, they were sleeping in the house.
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  And at end, my mom said that she could hear, like, this drumming.
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  Yeah.
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  And she was like, what is that sound?
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  And my dad was already kind of dozing off and going to sleep
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  and then she goes, hey, what does that sound?
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  I hear drumming like it's coming closer.
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  And my dad said, that's just a night.
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  Just don't worry about it.
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  You'll be fine. And my mom was so scared.
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  But you know it.
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  That's that's something that's neat to me.
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  Is that my father grew up hearing it,
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  and so he wasn't scared of it because he.
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  He respected it.
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  You know, I would just say that.
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  Yeah. You respect it.
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  What do you do if you see it?
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  I don't know, because I've never seen it.
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  So, yeah, you can read up online.
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  It'll say, like you said, I'll get naked.
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  Lay down. Don't look at it. Yeah.
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  Those are all the things that I've heard.
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  But the cool experience that I've heard from my father is
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  you just know it's there and you just don't.
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  You don't treat it any other bad way.
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  Well, Sergeant Cameron to Italy, I thank you so much for your time.
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  No problem. Nice to be here.
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  Happy Halloween everyone.
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  Happy Halloween.
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  And we're sticking with more stories to get us in the spine chilling mood.
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  Up next from the Honolulu Fire Department, captain Gerald the Jackal
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  and John Pacheco.
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  A man is an analyst.
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  Gentlemen, thanks for making some time for us.
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  Thanks for having. Us.
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  Cat, we'll start with you first off.
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  Tell us a little bit about yourself. Where did you grow up?
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  What high school did you go to?
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  What made you want to join the department? Any of that? Okay.
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  My name is Gerald Pacheco.
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  I'm 56.
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  I been in for 31.5 years.
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  Grew up in Palisades.
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  Went to Kamehameha, graduated in 1987.
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  I don't know if this is just a job that I always wanted to do.
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  I can remember from preschool, and the fire trucks would show up and dance.
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  That was my calling, I guess.
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  So ended up getting lucky.
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  Picked up and living the dream of,
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  And John. Same question.
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  Tell us a little bit about yourself.
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  Hi. My name is John Pacheco. 35.
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  Grew up in Kapolei.
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  Also went to Kamehameha schools, class of 2009.
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  Yeah. Sorry.
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  And, Yeah, I've grown up, with all these guys, in the department.
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  Seeing kind of the culture.
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  I always wanted to be able to give back in a position like this.
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  So really happy to be here and contribute and get.
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  Do you believe in ghosts?
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  I won't say that I do that. I won't say that I do.
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  It's just one of those,
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  there's stuff out there that can't be explained
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  that would just leave it right there.
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  So have you personally experienced anything
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  haunting, supernatural or anything like that?
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  Well, yeah.
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  In the station, there's been quite a few.
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  There's quite a few hotspots at certain stations, but.
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  Tell us about those.
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  Hotspots.
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  Well, if they follow you home, sometimes.
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  Geez.
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  I mean, there's, stuff that I've heard of and experienced personally at Copley.
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  Wahiawa Central Fire Station, Kakaako.
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  Okay.
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  We're at Kakaako right now.
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  We're recording this podcast at algo.
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  So what kind of stories you have about this space that we are sitting in now?
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  When I got here first as a captain, we were prepping this for
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  to be the, the museum.
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  So they would ask us to come over, we go and then just,
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  you know, move some stuff around.
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  So initially when it was, unimproved, it was
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  you just had this weird feeling that somebody was there looking at you.
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  But this point next is,
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  our crew polished it down. It's brass.
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  I mean, those of you that been around brass know it.
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  It gets pretty nice and shiny.
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  So what had happened was we polished this thing from the floor
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  to the top of the roof on the second floor.
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  We came in the next shift to move some stuff around.
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  And there were fingerprints, little kid fingerprints.
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  Well above what a man can reach on the second floor.
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  So that was a little strange.
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  You also mentioned some other stations.
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  Copley.
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  Oh, boy.
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  Yeah. Couple it.
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  If you're familiar with the layout there,
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  there's a gate towards the back by the decentralization plan.
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  What they were saying is that was the,
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  the path for the is to come from the mountain to the ocean.
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  They followed the trees.
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  And if you close that gate, a lot of strange things happened in the dorm.
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  They had, a pressing, I guess, is what you would call it happened to me.
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  It was, at first my, bunkmate next to me.
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  He got his.
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  And I kind of laughed.
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  It off, like, yeah, okay, whatever. But,
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  yeah, that night that I got in, he had heard me, so I was.
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  His name is, G'Kar.
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  He's the captain at, I knew he was next to me, and I asked him a
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  did you.
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  Did you hear me thrashing around?
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  He said, yeah.
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  So I said, up front, did you see what I saw?
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  And he's like, oh, I don't know what you're talking about.
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  I said, well,
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  come on now, tell me if you saw what I saw.
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  And then, because what I had seen was it looked like after I was done
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  struggling like a mist, almost like a rain cloud above me.
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  And when he described the same thing, I was like, oh my God.
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  But from there, when I got to know, it kind of shot up into the rafters.
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  So I asked him a who's very distinct fly above and he said, right above.
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  Brian soars better and I'll say, Hawk, it's unreal.
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  So I knew it was something that was corroborated by somebody else.
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  Wasn't losing my mind.
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  And then you mentioned central.
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  Just passing central.
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  It kind of looks a little scary.
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  What's wrong with that building?
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  That one wasn't too bad.
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  That was my first station.
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  I just remember hearing footsteps at night in the hallway.
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  And then just the.
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  Everything about it was old, so, you know, the doors would be creaking at night,
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  I guess.
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  Might have been a little bit of imagination,
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  but like I said, you know, I, I know that things.
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  Garrett must follow us back to the station, so who knows that one.
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  I think I might have been buying into some of the other
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  older firefighters that to scare me.
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  And then, John, we're also a few steps away from your workplace.
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  Can you talk about where you work?
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  Any hauntings, spirits, anything like that?
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  Yeah, sure.
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  So, one night I was working late over here at headquarters, and,
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  I felt kind of a presence behind me, so I turned around and.
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  Look, no one was there.
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  Which is kind of strange, because there were
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  only two other people in the building, and they're on a different floor.
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  But I didn't really feel any anything weird.
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  Like.
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  Like it was maybe, like evil or, like, benevolent or anything like that.
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  So I backed out. Whatever.
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  So I went back to work.
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  And as I'm turning to go back to work, I had a lady that I got the day
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  before hanging up in my workplace from a clip, and it jumped.
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  And I was like, what?
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  That's that's super weird of.
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  And it was maybe a couple feet away from me.
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  And it looked like someone was flicking on a light switch.
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  So it's a little
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  it was dangling and I'd jump, jump, jump three times and it stopped.
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  And then I looked around.
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  I was, okay, this is super weird.
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  But again, it didn't feel like like evil or like
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  I didn't feel scared or anything like that.
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  So I just kind of brushed it off and just went back to work.
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  But then the very next day, the very next morning, I came back.
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  The person that sits by me, came into work, and we were talking
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  story, and I happened to be looking at the lady,
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  and it literally did it again the exact same amount of times.
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  It just flicked up three times, jumped, and then it stopped.
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  So at that point I thought, okay, something's up with this lady.
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  Something's up with this place.
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  I'm not sure. I don't know what's going on.
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  So I was actually going to throw it away or I was going to, you know, like native
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  Hawaiian, like kind of practice and give it back to nature.
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  So, I took this lei and I was walking out and I ran into our secretary
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  for planning and development, Millie, and, she asked what I was doing.
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  I told her, and she said, oh, that that's a really good idea
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  because there's a spirit in the building and names Keemo.
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  And he's he's not like, you know, like evil.
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  He's he's kind of like trickster ish.
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  And and like I said, go around and play play around and stuff like that.
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  So she said, oh, maybe he just really likes delay.
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  So go, just go give it to the tree outside.
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  So yeah, I, I gave it to the tree outside and nothing else happened since.
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  So it sounds like people here know chemo.
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  What other things has chemo done?
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  Oh man.
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  I've heard stories from Miley about, a certain elevator
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  in our building, that he likes to reside in.
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  That people have had experiences either like the elevator stalling out or
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  they feel like a pressing on their chest, or just like a presence there with them.
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  I think Miley actually says the elevator gets cold for her.
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  Yeah. I'm, like, super cold.
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  Yeah, I mean, you ask any of the champions,
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  like, kept Jimmy at nine?
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  I guess we call him Joe, though.
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  If it was, I don't know how to explain you only see his upper torso, no legs.
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  He'll be walking around or floating around,
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  downstairs in the,
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  the old weight room and in the hallway, but, waterfall thing.
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  Right?
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  He, Yeah.
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  He's there.
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  I mean, just it was odd because of all the places
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  I've been, nine has been cut off or has been the the most,
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  active for me.
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  I mean, just even more stories.
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  But it was like we have these, office partitions
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  in between the beds.
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  At night,
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  I'd be, you know, you kind of.
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  I'm lying down.
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  I'm laying on it, and you can.
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  I can hear something that's moving by like.
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  Like.
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  But I'm leaning against it, and you can feel it, too.
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  So sleep.
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  So I call out,
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  Chief Torres.
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  He was, a captain there with me, so I'm like, hey, what are you doing, man?
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  And it's like, I'm trying to call him.
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  And finally I get up and I called
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  to, you know, I think maybe he's messing with me, so.
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  But he's.
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  This is the one in the room we've experienced,
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  the same voices that, you know, conversation that kept Jimmy had at us,
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  where we took turns.
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  It was like you would hear a kid talking or something like that.
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  And, kept. Torres had told me at the time.
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  Chief Torres.
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  He told me.
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  Oh, I thought he was making little kid noises.
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  So I was like, colleague, knock it off already.
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  Well, I go to sleep, and I went over there, and you wasn't in your bunk.
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  I was like, yeah.
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  And I had the same thing happened.
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  So I don't know what's going on up there, even to the, to
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  the point of actually had physical stuff moving.
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  Like he said,
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  I came up and then,
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  the captain had told me, wow,
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  that's kind of cool.
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  I'll do that to my stuff.
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  And, I had just walked up into the dorm and he.
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  So I was like, what the hell are you talking?
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  And he's like,
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  look over here.
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  You threw all my stuff on the ground.
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  And he said that,
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  and he tried to run around and go out and, come back in like he didn't do nothing.
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  I was like,
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  bro, I didn't do nothing.
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  He is very bad.
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  Everything was literally turned upside down.
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  And it was.
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  Yeah, another one of those maybe, you know, there's explanations.
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  Maybe somebody is pulling a prank on him.
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  But after all the stuff that was going on up there, I mean, we had
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  Chief Torres had his toes tickled by this, I tell him.
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  You sure?
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  But, I mean, there's an explanation, right? But.
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  Yeah, but the to get touched or pressed, that's.
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  Yeah. Hard to explain.
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  I've asked this question to everyone
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  we're sitting down with this week, but if you see a spirit or a
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  say you see an artwork night marcher, what do you suggest that people do?
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  Roll over and cover your head at the blanket?
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  That's what I did.
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  Oh, that was his pillow was using right there.
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  Because I remember waking up and I don't know if someone is messing with me.
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  The stories at the old of a beach, there was a little boy
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  who passed away nearby, and he would come and play in the station,
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  and that night he would pull the chair into the middle of the dorm and sit there.
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  So I had to go to the restroom and I rolled over.
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  I saw a chair
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  in the middle of the of the dorm, and I was like, you know, I can hold it.
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  And I.
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  I, I ain't doing it.
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  And then John, for you, you know, say he was running around one day.
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  What do you what do you suggest that people do?
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  Honestly?
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  Just just be yourself and just just keep on keeping, I guess.
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  Like I said, it didn't really feel like evil or anything like that.
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  I, I didn't feel like, in danger or anything,
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  which I think would have been a very different conversation at that point,
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  because I've seen that movie before, and I'm not about to be that victim. But,
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  yeah, just just coming in with good intentions, good energy and.
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  Yeah, it should be fine.
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  Hopefully. I'll try that.
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  Yeah, hopefully.
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  Full disclosure, you guys are related.
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  Yeah.
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  What do you think?
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  Why do you think they chose you?
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  Why do you think you're able to experience this?
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  And maybe others aren't? Whoa.
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  Go ahead.
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  Your father set this up.
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  Wow. I never given much thought.
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  Yeah, I guess because we just.
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  One of those families are blessed enough to have a whole bunch of individuals
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  that have been or are in the department.
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  I know when I go to stations, guys ask me what I really that of the stations.
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  They ask me, so what what what kind of haunted stories you got?
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  And so there's, there's a bunch, I'll tell you.
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  There's so many out there.
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  Like John mentioned,
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  it kind of seems like they have good intentions,
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  but is there one that sticks with you, one that kind of scares you,
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  one that maybe you think back on?
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  There was, yeah, that one,
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  a couple that he wanted us to, a
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  little bit on the personal side, but,
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  we had actually gone to an alarm, like I said
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  the day before of my encounter, at Copley O'Hara, he had his.
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  And, we ended up getting up to go to the, the alarm,
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  and he got up and he just looked at me and his face was scratched up.
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  So I was like, oh, well, you had a rough night or,
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  you know, just kind of laughed it off because, you know, that's explainable.
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  So when he turns around, this is bad.
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  And he's walking towards the, the truck, he's got scratches
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  down his back from shoulder to hips,
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  you know, straight line, four of them.
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  And it's like, he can't do that to you.
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  Well, I know we couldn't and he couldn't do it himself.
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  And I sure as hell didn't do it to him.
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  So he that was one of those that really got spooked,
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  you know, the same one that kind of hit me, you know?
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  But yeah, he did.
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  He said it actually talked to him and said that your mind's so.
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  Well, he was being nailed down, but yeah, he said,
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  he did, and he felt, the scratches going in, so.
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  Yeah, the one at 40, I think there was a little pissed off.
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  So I don't know if he was before us putting the station there or not.
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  But like I said, they followed all the trees.
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  What I was told.
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  And I had cut one down because the rats were jumping on the roof.
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  And that was why I got it.
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  I don't know what he got it for though, but I pretty much do.
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  I, I got it.
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  So for public peace of mind, is there anything that happens routinely,
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  like do stations get blessed?
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  Do we plant to leaf on corners?
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  Well, I mean, we we have our resident experts that come around.
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  We get advice from is like, hey, come check this place out.
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  Take a look for us beyond.
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  There are no special rituals.
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  I mean, it's it's you know, they're these
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  things are going to be where they choose to be no matter what.
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  Like I said, somebody will follow you home.
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  According to, some people that I've spoken to again at nine, or if you,
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  Michelle, Michelle, Freydis,
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  the safety lady, I called her over to come
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  do a check, for a prep for our inspection.
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  She refused to come into the station, so after after prodding her,
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  she said, well, I can see things.
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  She said last time I came in a station or something.
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  Follow me home.
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  So I convinced her to come in,
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  and she came upstairs and said, hey, what do you see up here?
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  She said, in our dorm upstairs, the men's dorm at nine.
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  She said she seen people from dress from the Victorian
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  era all the way up to modern day.
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  Just all walking through like it's a crosswalk or something
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  up in the upstairs dorm, going through that last door into the locker room.
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  That first locker right there and that last bit.
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  That's why a lot of guys will want to sleep on that last bit.
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  So she said she saw all of that. So I mean
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  they're
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  everywhere right here sitting on your lap
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  playing with your hair.
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  You know, it's.
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  On that note.
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  Okay.
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  Where will you will be on Halloween this year?
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  On duty. On the. Winter.
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  Time.
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  Probably giving out candy.
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  We live in Ohio, and there's a lot of kids in that area, so.
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  Yeah. Well, thank you all for your time.
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  Thank you, thank you.
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  Yeah. And next week, it's on to the next holiday.
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  We'll be talking all things Honolulu City Lights, which is expanding its footprint
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  this year to include Thomas Square, probably also haunted.
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  We'll have everything you need to know right here on the One or Who podcast.
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  We wish you all spooky and sick Halloween. Mahalo for listening.
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  Until next time, Aloha!