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NFL Report: The Colts Jonathan Taylor dilemma, NFL old vs. new school, Alonzo Highsmith joins · NFL explained.

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  Speaker 1: Hello everyone, Goodmorrow. I'm James Palmer. With me is Steve Weisch.
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  Speaker 2: This is the NFL Report, where we're gonna dissect the
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  Speaker 2: biggest storylines across the NFL. But maybe more importantly, Steve,
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  Speaker 2: we are going to discuss the storylines and topics that
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  Speaker 2: maybe are getting overlooked.
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  Speaker 1: Today.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna have Bridget Condon, We're gonna have Omar Ruiz,
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna have Alonzo Highsmith with us, a former personnel
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  Speaker 2: So this is also a podcast twice a week, Steve,
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  Speaker 2: and this is number one for us. Well, let's I'll
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  Speaker 2: stop promoting us. I'll stop that. Everybody's gonna watch. Anyways,
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  Speaker 2: Let's get right into it, and Chris Ballard, the Colts
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  Speaker 2: general manager, saying, pretty much, Steve, what all of us
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  Speaker 2: have been saying to one another privately about the situation
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  Speaker 2: with their star running back Jonathan Taylor.
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  Speaker 1: Take a listen, I.
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  Speaker 3: Mean the situation. I'm not going to sit here and
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  Speaker 3: give you some rosy picture like, oh, this is just
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  Speaker 3: everything's okay.
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  Speaker 4: No, it sucks.
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  Speaker 3: It sucks for the Colts, It sucks for Jonathan Taylor,
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  Speaker 3: and it sucks for our fans. It just it does,
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  Speaker 3: and it's it's where we're at, and we've got to
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  Speaker 3: work through it, and we're gonna do everything we can
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  Speaker 3: to work through it. Relationships are repairable, They're repairable, Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Jap, I don't know if this relationship is repaarable.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, I love the honesty.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I like, like it sucks, but what if?
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  Speaker 5: What like? What have you ever heard of management in
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  Speaker 5: any sport?
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  Speaker 6: I've covered the NBA, I have covered collegiate football, I've
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  Speaker 6: covered the NFL three years. A manager giveaway any leverage
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  Speaker 6: by getting to the emotional point saying this sucks. We
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  Speaker 6: don't hear it, so now it sucks for our fans.
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  Speaker 5: It sucks. For us. It probably sucks for.
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  Speaker 6: Him because he's the guy trying to negotiate a way
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  Speaker 6: to get his star player back on the field. You
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  Speaker 6: have your owner and Jim ersay a couple of weeks ago,
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  Speaker 6: after a very public meeting in the trailer at training camp,
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  Speaker 6: come out and basically say, yeah, we're not paying him.
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  Speaker 6: After Anthony Rich, I'm sorry, after Jonathan Taylor, seems like
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  Speaker 6: he went in there thinking that maybe they could work
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  Speaker 6: something out. So now you've got all this collateral damage
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  Speaker 6: and this is this is not good. Now they placed
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  Speaker 6: him on pup JP right, saying that the ankle hasn't
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  Speaker 6: healed whatever, So they've got four games to work this out,
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  Speaker 6: and they're still paying him.
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  Speaker 5: Because he's on pup.
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  Speaker 6: So maybe that's some type of ointment on this open wound.
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  Speaker 6: But the fact that we are here this is one
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  Speaker 6: of the most in all my years of doing this,
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  Speaker 6: all these contract disputes, this one.
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  Speaker 5: Feels so personal. I don't know if it can be repaired.
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  Speaker 2: And what has happened Steve, each and every time this
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  Speaker 2: is escalated in terms of emotion, It's almost been every
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  Speaker 2: time Jim Mersey has made a comment one way or
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  Speaker 2: the other, whether it be via Twitter sorry X, which
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  Speaker 2: it's called now, or speaking to reporters and saying something publicly.
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  Speaker 2: Because what we do have to remember, and I've been
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  Speaker 2: in that building over the last couple of years. You've
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  Speaker 2: been in that building over the last couple of years.
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  Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor has been a model citizen in that locker room,
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  Speaker 2: a very well liked player in that locker room, and
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  Speaker 2: has gone about his business during his rookie deal. You
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  Speaker 2: would assume watching other players get paid, and that's what
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  Speaker 2: you're thinking when you're a star player, thinking they're going
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  Speaker 2: to take care of you as a homegrown talent. You've
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  Speaker 2: seen Quentin Nelson get paid. You've seen name Heines got
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  Speaker 2: a second contract out of the backfield with him as well,
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  Speaker 2: and Darius Leonard, and you're just waiting your time, and
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  Speaker 2: now you're maybe the best player on this team, and
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  Speaker 2: now you're told you're not getting an offer, any sort
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  Speaker 2: of offer. And I think you have to remember he
• 4:05
  Speaker 2: was on a zoom call with Josh Jacobs, he was
• 4:08
  Speaker 2: on a zoom call with Saquon Barkley to go over
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  Speaker 2: the state of where all of them stand in terms
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  Speaker 2: of their position. I think this is a loss of trust,
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  Speaker 2: and you're right, how do you repair a relationship where
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  Speaker 2: you feel like the trust is lost? Because the crux
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  Speaker 2: of all this is one major topic. They believe he
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  Speaker 2: is not healthy enough to play like he played in
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, so they want to see him go
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  Speaker 2: out and do it. He wants to get paid before
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  Speaker 2: he risks injury going out and doing it. Where do
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  Speaker 2: you find a middle ground in that position?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and this is where it gets dicey because you
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  Speaker 6: talked to posing coaches right now, they're like, I am
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  Speaker 6: glad the cults are going through this because Jonathan Taylor's
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  Speaker 6: a beast. You know, he's a top top three running
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  Speaker 6: back in the NFL and a lot of guys of
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  Speaker 6: opposing coaches so they're loving seeing this chaos.
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  Speaker 5: But you know, you talk about a lack of trust.
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  Speaker 5: And now we've got the.
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  Speaker 6: Medical issue as well, JPE. Because let's say the four
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  Speaker 6: games go, when the he comes off of pop, medical
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  Speaker 6: staff says he's clear, he's medically cleared, he says, I
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  Speaker 6: have my doctor who says I'm not okay. Then you
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  Speaker 6: also bring the medical group in his collateral damage. It
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  Speaker 6: gets real ugly, but we're gonna move on from this
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  Speaker 6: because we've got another medical situation and potential contract situation
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  Speaker 6: brewing in Cincinnati.
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  Speaker 5: And for that j p Let's also bringing our Bridget.
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  Speaker 6: Condon, who spent a couple of days up at training
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  Speaker 6: camp in Cincinnati with the Bengals.
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  Speaker 5: Bridget, you're coming in. We are talking about quarterback Joe.
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  Speaker 6: Burrow shows up on the practice field on Tuesday, comes
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  Speaker 6: out and practices Wednesday. Head co Zach Taylor says, it
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  Speaker 6: doesn't look like he's missed any practice at all with
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  Speaker 6: that calf.
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  Speaker 5: Injury that kept him out.
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  Speaker 6: What is the latest you can tell us about his
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  Speaker 6: situation medically and then contractually.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't think anyone was surprised to see Joe
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  Speaker 7: Burrow on the practice field. You know, his head coach
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  Speaker 7: saying he hasn't missed a beat, his teammates saying that
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  Speaker 7: he brought an extra spark out to practice. When I
• 6:03
  Speaker 7: was up there, it was the first day we kind
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  Speaker 7: of saw him in street clothes, he had that bucket hat,
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  Speaker 7: just kind of watching practice and at that point you
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  Speaker 7: kind of knew, Okay, he's gonna be ready for week
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  Speaker 7: one now. To be out there the week before you
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  Speaker 7: really get into focusing on week one. It seems like
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  Speaker 7: the natural progression of that injury. I know there's a
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  Speaker 7: lot of talk about has he been you know, kind
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  Speaker 7: of maybe lingering a little bit because of that contract situation.
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  Speaker 7: But I think there's a lot that we have to
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  Speaker 7: dissect here with Joe Burrow, and I want you guys
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  Speaker 7: to chime in here. But the best thing and maybe
• 6:34
  Speaker 7: even I don't know, more trendy than him being back
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  Speaker 7: on the practice field. Did you guys see his Instagram
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  Speaker 7: story of him in the lebron James Cass jersey and
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  Speaker 7: it said, Okay, I don't know, are you guys familiar
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  Speaker 7: with snapchat? I feel like maybe not.
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  Speaker 5: That's all you.
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  Speaker 7: So it's definitely a snapchat like you're it's definitely but
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  Speaker 7: in high school. Come on, guys, it's definitely a Snapchat
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  Speaker 7: mirror picture because you can just tell with the like
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  Speaker 7: the graphic that says we're back or he's back.
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  Speaker 1: It's definitely like an old picture.
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  Speaker 7: But he posted it on his Instagram story to let
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  Speaker 7: everybody know he's back. This is a guy that he's
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  Speaker 7: a lot of fun to be around. His teammates like him.
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  Speaker 7: He has that swagger that we always talk about. I
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  Speaker 7: think there is no question in anybody's mind in the
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  Speaker 7: building that a deal is going to get done before
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  Speaker 7: the season starts.
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  Speaker 2: It's just when.
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  Speaker 7: And I think, you know, we could come down today,
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  Speaker 7: it could come down tomorrow. I think everybody's kind of
• 7:37
  Speaker 7: on the edge of their seat. We also have to remember,
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  Speaker 7: the same agent that's doing his deal is the one
• 7:41
  Speaker 7: doing Nick Bosas, So a busy next two weeks for
• 7:45
  Speaker 7: you know, both of them.
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  Speaker 2: I think we're seeing bridget Honestly, this seems just by
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  Speaker 2: watching it go down from when in the spring Joe
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  Speaker 2: Burrows talking about I think I've made it abundantly clear
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  Speaker 2: what I think I'm worth and what i think I'm
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  Speaker 2: worth getting. It's been pretty amicable. I do think both
• 8:04
  Speaker 2: sides are very tough in terms of negotiations. The Brangles
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  Speaker 2: have never been pushed over Steve over the years by
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  Speaker 2: any stretch. But I'm curious on how this contract is
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  Speaker 2: going to be structured, because really, if you think about it,
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  Speaker 2: it's Patrick Mahomes and the next best player we all
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  Speaker 2: say is Joe Burrow. I think the gap is probably
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  Speaker 2: closer than maybe some other people believe. How does he
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  Speaker 2: structure this contract? How creative. Are they maybe having to
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  Speaker 2: be steve during this contract negotiations if Joe Burrow, who
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  Speaker 2: has made it clear he wants to keep this group
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  Speaker 2: together the same way Mahomes has said he wants to
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  Speaker 2: be able to structure his contract to where he can
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  Speaker 2: keep a lot of talent around him. You have one
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  Speaker 2: of your top receivers and t Higgins that has also
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  Speaker 2: due a new deal. Jamar Chase is already on the
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  Speaker 2: horizon in a sense, and that's just the guys he
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  Speaker 2: throws the football to. There's a lot of other positions
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  Speaker 2: and positions you have to pay. How do you think
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  Speaker 2: Joe Burrow structures this contract because I do think he
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  Speaker 2: looks at success similarly to Pat Mahomes. I think this
• 9:01
  Speaker 2: will be a record breaking deal, but I do think
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  Speaker 2: there's some creativity that's going on behind closed doors.
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  Speaker 6: Right And you nailed JP and he said, I think
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  Speaker 6: he looks at success the same way. That's why he's
• 9:09
  Speaker 6: out there on that practice field right now. And you
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  Speaker 6: know there was video of him. He's not wearing a
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  Speaker 6: sleeve or anything on that calf. He's wearing like everything
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  Speaker 6: is good to go. So he's a football player. He
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  Speaker 6: wants to be out there competing with his teammates. But
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  Speaker 6: the structure is important. And to your point about Mahomes,
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  Speaker 6: he didn't take a ton of cash over the first
• 9:27
  Speaker 6: three years. You have a lot of people saying, what
• 9:29
  Speaker 6: is this guy doing to backload a deal like this
• 9:32
  Speaker 6: in case he gets hurt. There is a potential trust issue.
• 9:36
  Speaker 6: There's a potential renegotiation there for Mahomes. But let's look
• 9:39
  Speaker 6: at how the market is laid out this offseason. Lamar
• 9:42
  Speaker 6: Jackson five years two hundred and sixty million, Jalen Hurts
• 9:45
  Speaker 6: five years, two hundred and fifty five million, Justin Herbert
• 9:47
  Speaker 6: five years two hundred and sixty two million with a
• 9:50
  Speaker 6: no trade clause. Right, So these are the parameters to
• 9:53
  Speaker 6: get a deal done. So you're gonna see the yearly
• 9:55
  Speaker 6: average and everything be similar to those three. It is
• 9:58
  Speaker 6: going to be the structure to see if they can
• 9:59
  Speaker 6: keep the team together. But Bridge, I want to get
• 10:02
  Speaker 6: back to you. You know you heard me say that
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  Speaker 6: Joey b didn't have the sleeve on. He's out there
• 10:07
  Speaker 6: wanting to play football. The risk of stepping out on
• 10:10
  Speaker 6: that field and reaggravating that thing. Do you think there's
• 10:13
  Speaker 6: a bond enough with that organization which has been tight
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  Speaker 6: with money up probably too the last five years in
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  Speaker 6: Joe Burrow to take care of him even if he
• 10:24
  Speaker 6: does get hurt before a contract is finalized.
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  Speaker 7: Well, I think we have to remember I think today too,
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  Speaker 7: he just participated in individual drills, right, I don't think
• 10:33
  Speaker 7: we're going to see him doing a lot of team drills.
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  Speaker 7: And whether that's the natural progression of the injury or
• 10:39
  Speaker 7: he's thinking contract in his mind, no one's really going
• 10:41
  Speaker 7: to know. But I do think you're getting down to
• 10:43
  Speaker 7: that period like you mentioned, But in my eyes, there's
• 10:47
  Speaker 7: no way that this organization doesn't pay Joe Burrow. Yes,
• 10:50
  Speaker 7: there's been issues in the past, but this is a
• 10:52
  Speaker 7: guy who's coming in and he's going to be the
• 10:55
  Speaker 7: one to get you to it. He's already gotten you
• 10:57
  Speaker 7: to a Super Bowl, but hopefully help you win that
• 10:59
  Speaker 7: first super He's mentioned you know that window being his
• 11:03
  Speaker 7: entire career. This is the face of your franchise, and
• 11:05
  Speaker 7: I think he's proven. He's had injuries, right, this is
• 11:08
  Speaker 7: his fourth consecutive off season where he hasn't participated in
• 11:12
  Speaker 7: the entire chunk of it and still has found success.
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  Speaker 7: So depending upon the injury I think regardless, this is
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  Speaker 7: the guy that you want to pay. This is the
• 11:21
  Speaker 7: guy you want as the face of your franchise. Hopefully
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  Speaker 7: figure it out so that you know, for Joe Burrow's sake,
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  Speaker 7: he gets the money and then can worry a little
• 11:30
  Speaker 7: bit less if something unfortunate were to happen.
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  Speaker 5: Bo great stuff, really really good points quick.
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  Speaker 2: I'll say this, The Bengals are not going to put
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  Speaker 2: him out there making less money.
• 11:39
  Speaker 5: Sure, sure you know you don't think they're gonna make.
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: Him available less money than arch Manning. Don't.
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  Speaker 5: Don't you don't think we're gonna have a job in
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  Speaker 5: the Taylor situation. Cincinnati. Hey, really good stuff. Good because
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  Speaker 5: our bridget sit tight. We're gonna come back to you.
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  Speaker 6: We're also gonna be joined a little bit later by
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  Speaker 6: Omar Ruish and Alonzo Heismith. But today is also a
• 11:57
  Speaker 6: very sad day. James is one of the NFL great
• 12:00
  Speaker 6: Gil Brandt personnel scouting legend to the point where the
• 12:04
  Speaker 6: NFL would not be where it is today. I'm going
• 12:06
  Speaker 6: to say this personally and professionally without Gil Brandt. He
• 12:10
  Speaker 6: passed today at the age of ninety one. Now, the
• 12:13
  Speaker 6: long term Cowboys executive who was there for the inception
• 12:17
  Speaker 6: of the franchise up until nineteen eighty nine when he
• 12:19
  Speaker 6: was let go when Jerry Jones bought the team. He
• 12:23
  Speaker 6: was somebody who had an incredible eye for talent. He
• 12:27
  Speaker 6: brought computers into the game. He was the grandfather to
• 12:30
  Speaker 6: what now is the actual NFL Combine.
• 12:33
  Speaker 5: Gil went into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in
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  Speaker 5: twenty nineteen. He worked here at NFL dot Com. He
• 12:39
  Speaker 5: was here when I started in two thousand and eight.
• 12:42
  Speaker 5: He helped me tremendously.
• 12:44
  Speaker 6: My great respect for Gil Brandt comes because of his.
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  Speaker 5: Professionalism, his attention.
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  Speaker 6: To detail, to historically black colleges and university. He stacked
• 12:56
  Speaker 6: the rosters for the Cowboys, a lot of small school
• 12:59
  Speaker 6: players in HBUs. He was on the Black College Football
• 13:02
  Speaker 6: Hall of Fame selection committee with me.
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  Speaker 5: I need somebody near and dear to all of us
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  Speaker 5: rest in peace.
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  Speaker 4: Skill.
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  Speaker 5: You know he knows what he did on the field,
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  Speaker 5: He knows how valuable a player he is, and he
• 13:18
  Speaker 5: knows he'll be he'll be compensated for it. So I
• 13:20
  Speaker 5: don't think he has.
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  Speaker 4: A way in his mind.
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  Speaker 1: We have to strike the right mix of urgency. I
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  Speaker 1: don't like this.
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  Speaker 2: I don't like not having one of our best players here.
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  Speaker 2: We've got a really good track record that I'm proud
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  Speaker 2: of as a group of having our players in frustration.
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  Speaker 8: No, it's going pretty much exactly how I expected it
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  Speaker 8: to go.
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  Speaker 5: That's so now it's kind of just been exactly what
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  Speaker 5: I thought.
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  Speaker 2: Long.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, i'd a feeling it would.
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  Speaker 9: You can imagine this team not having him on the
• 13:52
  Speaker 9: team saying that if this thing goes on in the previous.
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  Speaker 8: Season, Yeah, I can imagine anything. Doesn't mean I like
• 13:59
  Speaker 8: that picture, of course. Now, you guys know how we
• 14:03
  Speaker 8: feel about Nick, and we all know how good of
• 14:05
  Speaker 8: a player he is, so hopefully we can come to
• 14:08
  Speaker 8: terms soon and get him here asa as possible.
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  Speaker 2: This is the guy that addresses our team every Saturday
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  Speaker 2: and just gives his wisdom.
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  Speaker 1: We miss him and looking forward to the day he's
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: coming back.
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: I just want to sack the quarterback, dude.
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: All right, welcome back.
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: That was Eric Armstead, John Lynch, Kyle Shanahan, all members
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: of the forty nine ers talking about you know who,
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: Nick Bosa, who just wants to sack the quarterback dude.
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: I'm excited to hear Omar Rowiz drop a couple of
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  Speaker 2: dudes in here. When's this dude showing up? And when's
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  Speaker 2: this contract getting done with this dude?
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  Speaker 9: Omar Well to borrow from Nick Bosa's sack dance celebration.
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  Speaker 9: I don't know, Nick, And this contract negotiation dragging on
• 14:56
  Speaker 9: even longer than John Lynch expected. He acknowledged that yesterday
• 15:00
  Speaker 9: press conference. When I spoke with Lynch at the very
• 15:02
  Speaker 9: beginning of training camp, he indicated to me he knew
• 15:05
  Speaker 9: it was going to be a tough negotiation with Nick
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  Speaker 9: Bosa and his representatives, but it has gone on longer
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  Speaker 9: than he thought. Kyle Shanahan meanwhile saying, this is about
• 15:15
  Speaker 9: the window that he'd thought they'd reach a negotiation. But
• 15:19
  Speaker 9: I go back to twenty seventeen, Steve, you probably remember
• 15:21
  Speaker 9: this Aaron Donald showing up maybe the friday before Week one.
• 15:26
  Speaker 9: He didn't play in that opening game with the Sean
• 15:28
  Speaker 9: McVay era in Indianapolis, and they blew the Colts out,
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  Speaker 9: and then he goes on to win the Defensive Player
• 15:34
  Speaker 9: of the Year his first. Now Nick Bosa, the reigning
• 15:37
  Speaker 9: Defensive Player of the Year, comes in. I still don't
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  Speaker 9: get a sense from the forty nine ers that he's
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  Speaker 9: not going to be there eventually, that this will eventually
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  Speaker 9: get done. But obviously, in John Lynch's eyes, this has
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  Speaker 9: gone on longer and he thought it would.
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  Speaker 6: Take Yeah, oh, I will tell you this, you know,
• 15:54
  Speaker 6: judging by the tone, like we played a clip of
• 15:57
  Speaker 6: Kyle Shanahan a week ago and then yesterday, there seems
• 16:01
  Speaker 6: to be a little little bit of consternation in the tone.
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: But I'll also say this, and this is just years
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: of experience.
• 16:08
  Speaker 6: I'm dealing with a lot of these types of contract situations.
• 16:11
  Speaker 6: When you hear teams say like, hopefully we can get
• 16:14
  Speaker 6: this done in the next couple of days, that process
• 16:17
  Speaker 6: tends to be sped up to like, yeah, it's probably
• 16:19
  Speaker 6: gonna get done the next couple of hours now. And now,
• 16:21
  Speaker 6: maybe I'm just being this or that, but you know
• 16:25
  Speaker 6: I heard that, you know this year in training camp
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: with the Vikings with Daniel Hunter. Oh yeah, you know,
• 16:29
  Speaker 6: maybe I think we'll get it done in the next
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: couple of weeks. The next day it was done. So
• 16:33
  Speaker 6: when you start hearing things like that, there tends to
• 16:35
  Speaker 6: be an accelerated clock. But here's maybe the potential. I
• 16:38
  Speaker 6: won't say, hang up, but let's look at the market.
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: TJ.
• 16:41
  Speaker 6: Watt twenty eight mil per year, eighty fully guaranteed, Joey
• 16:45
  Speaker 6: Bosa twenty seven million year, seventy eight fully guaranteed, Miles
• 16:51
  Speaker 6: Garrett twenty five year, but just fifty million guaranteed. The
• 16:56
  Speaker 6: guaranteed money is going to probably be the issue here
• 16:59
  Speaker 6: when you look at eight he fully guaranteed. That's the
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: money he's gonna get whatever that that's.
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: Always the number.
• 17:06
  Speaker 6: And you and you look at the Niners, They're they're
• 17:08
  Speaker 6: putting their money on defense. But Eric Arms did Fred Warner.
• 17:11
  Speaker 6: They just signed jon Hardgrave a big contract, so you
• 17:18
  Speaker 6: know this is where they are going to put their money,
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: knowing that Nick Bosha is the dude who really is
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: the best out of all of them. But now it's
• 17:27
  Speaker 6: just a matter of how that's gonna come and what
• 17:28
  Speaker 6: that might do to guys on the other side of
• 17:31
  Speaker 6: the ball in the coming years. But there still isn't
• 17:33
  Speaker 6: that to me financially, the fact that you've got a
• 17:36
  Speaker 6: rookie quarterback on a seventh round contract, you still have
• 17:39
  Speaker 6: a lot more wiggle room than other teams do JP
• 17:42
  Speaker 6: And the fact also you're hearing the way that Lynch
• 17:45
  Speaker 6: and Kyle Shanahan talked about this.
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: They're not saying, oh, this sucks. They're keeping a.
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: Good line of communication open to the player and negotiations.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: And that's the way they they have take care of
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: their homegrown guys.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: They've done it.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: They've taken care of guys like Deebo Samuel, They've taken
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: care of other guys in the past.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: I think a couple of quick points on this before
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: we move on. Omar.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: Sorry to cut you off, but I gotta jump in.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: I gotta say this, listen, They're not trading him. Both
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: John Lynch and Kyle Shannon were asked, you know, would
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: you trade Joe?
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Would you trade Nick Bosa? No, that's not happening.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: He's the best defensive player in money people's minds in
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: the NFL.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: You mentioned Steve TJ.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Watts deal at twenty eight million dollars a year, you
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: would think coming off of a defensive Player of the
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Year award and eighteen and a half sacks that Nick
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Bosa with two years also of inflation off of that contract,
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: this is probably a thirty million dollars a year situation
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: where this contract is going. Now, what we do need
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: to keep an eye on because I do think a
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: deal gets done before the start of the season. Is
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: he ready for Week one? John Lynch believes usually, universally
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: it takes about three weeks for a player to get
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: ready to play in an NFL game. But he also
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: acknowledged that Nick Bosa is not a normal human being
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: in terms of how he's built, how he works out.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: That is going to be the thing we keep our
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: eye on once he reports, is how quickly he gets
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: up to speak, because the forty nine ers believe it'll
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: be much quicker than a lot of other players around
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: the league or a lot of other players they've dealt
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: with in the past. Let's talk to another guy that
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: is not in camp, and that is the Kansas City
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Chiefs Chris Jones, who is doing a holdout. To really
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: describe all holdouts, his situation also is different than Nick
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: Boss because Nix is coming off of that rookie contract
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: and Chris Jones is coming off of his second contract Steve,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: So that is a situation where he's getting fined regularly.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Omar about one point eight million dollars already missed. And
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: what I've been told is it's not like the Chiefs
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: are upset with Chris Jones. They're just kind of scratching
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: their head, going, I'm not sure what's going on here.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Why didn't you just have a hold in. Why didn't
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: you just show up and not participate. They're kind of
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: just confused by the situation more so than they're angry,
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: which is very interesting.
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, look, I mean it is interesting. But let's piggyback
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: off of the previous conversation. Chris Jones the last two
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: years has primarily played on the edge.
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: Correct Poe's Nick Bosa comes in in thirty million a year.
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: Now the Chiefs are like, holy hell, we're not gonna
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: pay this. He's the best offensive line.
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: But you know, is the interior where Aaron Donald's making
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: thirty one million dollars this year?
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: You know?
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: Or is he the edge guy thirty million a year?
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: This could really to me, this Bosa deal might throw
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: another wrinkle.
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: It's Chris Jones holdout Omar Well.
• 20:24
  Speaker 9: I think I think you guys both in both both
• 20:27
  Speaker 9: these conversations kind of hit it on the head. Whereas
• 20:30
  Speaker 9: Nick Bosa needs to be on the forty nine ers
• 20:33
  Speaker 9: for them to be true Super Bowl contenders. And I
• 20:35
  Speaker 9: think it's the same thing with Chris Jones as good
• 20:37
  Speaker 9: as Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid. Are Chris Jones the
• 20:40
  Speaker 9: centerpiece of that defense, making them a super Bowl caliber
• 20:44
  Speaker 9: championship defense. And I think his representatives know that, just
• 20:47
  Speaker 9: like you said, Steve seventh round quarterback, rookie quarterback going
• 20:51
  Speaker 9: into the second year with the forty nine ers, Nick
• 20:54
  Speaker 9: Bosa's agents know that as well, just like Chris Jones's
• 20:57
  Speaker 9: agents know that. You know, he is needed in the
• 21:01
  Speaker 9: middle of that Chiefs defense, and you know, if this
• 21:04
  Speaker 9: is what they have to deal with the start this season,
• 21:06
  Speaker 9: it's gonna be things like this. I think that might
• 21:09
  Speaker 9: you know, that could derail the Chiefs. I think I
• 21:11
  Speaker 9: think we're all bullish on Kansas City this year. I
• 21:14
  Speaker 9: mean I know personally, I feel as strongly about them
• 21:16
  Speaker 9: repeating this year as any team since I've been covering
• 21:20
  Speaker 9: the NFL. When you go back to looking how Mahomes
• 21:23
  Speaker 9: adjusted to the new look receiving cores and then you
• 21:25
  Speaker 9: had the six rookies playing significant snaps on defense last
• 21:28
  Speaker 9: year and they're only going to grow. But at the
• 21:31
  Speaker 9: center of it all is Chris Jones, and I think,
• 21:33
  Speaker 9: you know, it's a matter of time before he gets
• 21:35
  Speaker 9: in but yeah, little Sweaty in Santa Clair in Kansas
• 21:40
  Speaker 9: City right now.
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: Gotta like it.
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: Man to two two likely Super Bowl contenders, I gets
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: their best defensive lineman in there. Guys, we're gonna button
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: this up right now because our special guest.
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: Is waiting on hold.
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: Remember, guys, we are two days away from rosters being
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: cut to the fifty three practice squads being made, guys
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: getting stashed, teams only keeping one quarterback on the ad
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: active roster. Coming up next, Alonzo Heighsmith is going to
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: tell us how the rosters as made. Alright back at
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: the NFL reports the White Cheer James Palmer. Now we're
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: joined by our special guest, Alonzo high Smith, the number
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: three overall pick the Houston Oilers in nineteen eighty seven,
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: long time NFL personnel exec and now the general manager
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: of the University of Miami football team.
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: Soh thanks so much for joining us.
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: Man, Hey, thank you for being on and enjoy watching
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: you guys every day on television. So it's probably one
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: of the things I really enjoyed the most being in
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: college football is having an opportunity to sit back and
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: watch the whole NFL listening to your stories, reports on
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: what's going on around the league, and I'm not too
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: far removed from the league, so I understand a lot
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: of the things that are going on.
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: That's why we have you here though, That's why we
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: have you here for first off, general manager of a
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: collegiate program.
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: Like, what is that? That seems like a very interesting title.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: Well, I think mine's is really a unique situation. Having
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: played at University of Miami, understanding the city of Miami,
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: understanding the culture. I wouldn't say there's a real GM
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: in college football because that's the head coach. The head coaches,
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: you know, he basically runs the program the way he
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: wants to run, and all you're trying to do is
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: is be an ear for him. One of the greatest
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: things I really enjoyed doing is talking to the players.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: You know, I have such a different perspective of college
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: football being in it now, for athletes and understanding what
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: they go through to play college football. It's much different
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: than when I played college football. Social media, time consumption,
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: there's so many things that involved compared to when I played.
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: You know, I have a real appreciation for these kids
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: and understanding where they're trying to get to and I
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: try and use my knowledge of being where they want
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: to go to give them good advice. And you know,
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: I enjoy when they come in my room. And you know,
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: we've got some young running backs and they came in
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: my room and they were talking about football, and I said, hey,
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: let's put up some great backs on YouTube and watch
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: and just and to sit there and watch them. I
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: put up Nick Schubb, of.
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: Course, who drafted.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: Brandon Brandon, Brandon Jacobs and some other backs. So just
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: getting them to understand the expectations and where their dreams
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: want to go. These these this is the process you're
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: going to have to follow. So that's one of the
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: things I really enjoy about being back at University of Miami.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Well, listen, I want to talk about these teams that
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: you used to be with Elizawa and the Packers, the Browns,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks. What was the process during the week in
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: the years past that we just went through in the
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: NFL in terms of cutdown? What was the preparation Because
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: I'm curious. Everybody knows what's going on in usually in
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: your own building, but when you're looking at the thirty
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: one other teams, what is the process that would go
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: into that and making sure you were prepared to steal
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: somebody from somebody else's squad.
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: Well, I think it all boils down basically to the
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: foundation of your organization. At the Cleveland I'm sorry, at
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: the Green Bay Packers, in the Seattle Seahawks, it's about
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: building through the draft. It's about young players. And Ted
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: Thompson and Ron Wolf were really big on the back
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: end of roster. You're always trying to improve the back
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: end of the roster with young, more talented players, and
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: you know, and that's one of the things we really
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: concentrated on because we weren't a team that was going
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: to go out and sign the twenty million dollars corner
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: or that big defensive end. So it was about drafting
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: precisely for your team and understanding the league and what's
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: out there. So when these cutdown days come out, with
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: your scouts involved, all your player personnel people involved, you're
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: scouring through the NFL on cutdown day to find that
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: one diamond, to find some guys who can improve the
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: back end of your roster.
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: So, you know, when I look at you know some
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: things that happened in the NFL joint practices is one Zoe.
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: And you know, a lot of coaches love the joint
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: practice controlled environment. But when I go to joint practices,
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: I see personnel guys looking at every other team's individual
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: drills all that person like, how much of these joint
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: practices factor and to you guys getting a good read
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: on talent, like, hey, if this corner becomes available, really
• 26:47
  Speaker 6: want to go get him, or we really like this
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: guy here, or they may want to stash one of
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: our guys because they're looking at our guys just like
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: we're looking at theirs.
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's a huge factor because when you're have
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: an opportunity to see the other team up in personal
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: you're able to dig back into your college reports on
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: players and you know what, maybe you don't get that
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: player now, Maybe you get him in a trade six
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: months later. Maybe you get him in a trade in
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: the off season where they release him in the off season.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: Maybe you get that player in his second contract. You
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: had an opportunity to really watch them, your scouts really
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: liked them in college, but because of the draft, you
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: weren't able to get them. So you can use those
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: joint practices in many ways to benefit your team. You know,
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: there could be a kid that you think you're looking
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: at that you're looking at their depth chart and you
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: know there's five dbs that are going to make their
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: team based on what you're watching. There's this kid we
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: really liked in college, and we might have had a
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: fifth round grade on him, a sixth round grade on
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: and he doesn't get drafted. Well, he's a free agent
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: for that team. So you're thinking in your mind, oh, man,
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: I really like this kid and we liked them as
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: a group as an organization, we're getting ready for the draft.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: We didn't have the fifth or sixth round pick. If
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: they released this kid, we're going to immediately jump on him.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: And that's why you get scouts involved. You go back
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: to what you saw in college when you're looking at
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: young players. So there's an opportunity for you to make
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: your team better at proving the back end of the roster.
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: Joe Quickly's a guy like Tremont Williams like that because
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: I think he was a six round pick for Houston.
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: Got let go, you guys have him and turn him
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: too a Pro Bowl corner.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: Well, the thing about Tremone was I loved him in college.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: I had a good grade on him. I think we
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: liked him as an organization, but those things happened weren't.
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: We didn't draft him, and he went through the circuit
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: after the draft. After the draft, he didn't get signed
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: by anybody. He was hanging out and we had an
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: opportunity because of our grades from college to bring him
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: in and worked out. We put him on a practice squad,
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: and the rest is history. The same thing can be
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: said about Sam Shields. The same thing can be said
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: about Chris Banjo. These type of kids who who we liked.
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: They had the athletic trace that had he They had
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: all those sorts of things, and then there on the street,
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: you have an opportunity to sign these guys and they
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: become valuable members of your team.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm always curious about this, and as opposed to
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: getting somebody from another team, how about the process? We
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: always talk about it, but I'm curious how it happens
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: hiding a guy on your team essentially, you know what
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, like where you don't want to see him
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: play in the preseason for the rest of the league
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: to see him, so you can put him on your
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: practice But give me exactly how that process happens. And
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: how an organization goes about maybe a guy hiding him
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: that they want to develop.
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: Well, first of all, it's really hard to hide somebody
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: because of the information out there, Like all thirty one
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: teams have the same information we have about that player.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: Is probably more of a based on a perception on
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: how you see that player and how you see how
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: he fits on your team, and those sorts of things,
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: and how all the other teams see that player. Maybe
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: he gets hurt in the preseason and he only plays
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: one game. Well, as a team, looking at your team,
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: you go, well, they're gonna try and sneak this guy
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: on the practice squad, and it's really hard to pull
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: players from another team's practice squad once those practice squads
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: are set, So you may wait for him to get
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: released and boom, you jump on him, Michael Hawk, and
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: now he's your property. So you know, those are the
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: things that go into players. I can think of a
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: player every year I thought was gonna get cut at
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: at the Minnesota Vikings, Adam Thielen. I really liked him.
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: He was came from a small school and watching tape,
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: watching their scrimmages, I mean, watching their preseason games and
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: things like that, and I go, man, when they cut
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: this guy, we're gonna jump on him. Well lo and behold,
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: he never gets cut. He becomes who he is in
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: the league. And those things go on every day. You
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: have to remember in the personnel apartment, everyone's responsible for teams.
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: Everybody's writing reports about all the practice squad players. So
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: when the cutdown days it does come, you're prepared for.
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: You know all these players, your scouts know these players.
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: When I was in Green Bay, Reggie McKenzie would call
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: me a Ron Woolford, Ted Thompson would call me a
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: Byt a player. After cut down, they say you really
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: like this kid in college, And I'm like, yeah, I
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: really did like them. We should grab them, you know.
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: And and that's how that and that's how those relations start,
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: all right.
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: So we're gonna ask you to sit tight for just
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: a second, ago a quick break, and you're gonna come back.
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: We got a lot more of Alonzo Highsmith. Plus later
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: in the show, is Matthew Stafford and some of these
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: other quarterbacks are they too old to relate to some
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: of these.
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: Young wide receivers. What more on the NFL report, We come.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Back teach them a Lesson, Steve, Welcome back to the
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: NFL Report. We're with Alonzo Highsmith, the general manager of
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: the Miami Hurricanes, and we grilled you about all your
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: time as a personnel executive, Alonso, and and I'm curious
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: also when you're in the building every day, there's obviously
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: some hurt feelings between player and team when it comes
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: to contracts, when it comes to you know, not getting
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: the money they feel like they deserve. I know you're
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: following love the rest of us, this Jonathan Taylor situation.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: How does one try to repair a relationship and move
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: forward when things become as public like they are in
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Indianapolis right now.
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: Well, if it's all about money, I think it can
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: be repaired. Money has a way of curing a lot
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: of apples, and we all know that. I think the
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: problems become when it becomes personal, when there's attacks on
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: both sides to each other. That's when the relationship kind
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: of goes to sour and it's irreparable. So, you know,
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: I'm just hoping in his situation because he's a great talent.
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: It's unfortunate what people think about running backs these days,
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: the value of running backs. But I think this guy, especially,
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: he's a difference maker. The Colts are a better team
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: with him than without him. And I'm hoping if it
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: just comes to money, they finally say, you know what,
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: let's just pay the guy what he's worth, and I
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: think everyone will be happy at the end of the day.
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: So you're number three overall. Pick you were you were
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: a running back come out of college. Let's let's let's
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: hit on this. You talked early in the show about
• 33:21
  Speaker 6: young players coming to seek advice from me. You're you're
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: telling about running backs. Has anybody said, should I continue
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: playing this position because it's not no longer a big
• 33:29
  Speaker 6: money position in the NFL?
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: Well, you know what I thought about that, honestly, And
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: you know, in today's football, if I was a six '
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: to one, two and thirty five pounds kid that played
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: running back and linebacker, I'd probably stick to linebacker. I
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: longevity the perception of the position, you know, I think
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: you know, when people look at the running back position today,
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: they look at the teams that are winning Super Bowls,
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: they say, well, they didn't have a great running back,
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: and then you see guys get hurt. The running back
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: position doesn't last very long. So if I'm a young kid,
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: I may make that move. I think there's a perfect
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: example of that. DJ Williams won the number one recruited
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: kids in the nation at the University of Miami his
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: first year. They moved in the running back and then
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: he switched back to the linebacker and the rest is history.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: You know, he's a first round draft pick Denver, Broncos
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: and all that kind of stuff. So, you know what,
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: that is something to think about, and I've often thought
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: about that.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: Well, Eliza, everybody wants to play quarterback because we're talking
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: about getting paid. That's where That's where you get paid,
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: is playing quarterback in the NFL. But we're seeing just
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: now in San Francisco a huge swing and a miss. Essentially,
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: it seems right now. I know it's early and it's
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: a small sample size with Trey Lance, but what is
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: it that makes evaluating the quarterback position so difficult?
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: I've seen you at a.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: Number of We've talked of what comes into evaluating quarterbacks
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: and why is it so hard?
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: You know what, never has one position determine the fate
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: of so many men, that quarterback position. I think quarterback
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: is the hardest position in the history of sports. When
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: you look at the quarterback position, your defense depends on you,
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: your offense depends on you, the organization depends on you,
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: the fans depending depend on you. You are the emperor
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: the quarterback position, and if you're good at it, you'll
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: be treated like the emperor. But if you're not good
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: at it, they'll kick you to the curve, throw you aside,
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: and it sets the organization back. Sometimes. That's how important
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: that position is, and that's why they get paid the
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: most money and they're the most viable, I mean, and
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: that's the thing that's interesting about the quarterback position. You
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: don't know where they're going to come from. They come
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: from everywhere. You look at Rock Perdy, you look at
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers getting to University of California, You look at
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: Josh Allen, not recruited out of high school. This list
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: goes on and on of these guys, and then you
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: have the guys who were a five star guy in
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: high school and all that kind of stuff. And I
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: can tell you this, evaluating high school players now at
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: the high school level and seeing these seeing these next
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: generation of quarterbacks, it's even harder because really, when you
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: see a kid, when you see a kid throw the
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: ball fifty five times in a game, he's seventy percent
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: completion ray four touchdowns, but he didn't throw a ball
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: over twelve yards. You know, there's so many different factors,
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: and I think the number one factor about the quarterback
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: position is these guys have it when even as a
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: young guy, you knew that guy had it. Was he
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: was maybe a little cocky, maybe was a little brash,
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: he was confident himself. The media didn't bother him. He
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: had a talented arm or, he had a talented mind
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: and had a tremendous work ethic. I think one of
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: the things you have to find out about the quarterback
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: position is what is his mindset and what is his
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: work ethic? Like does he if he's not going to
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: have the natural talents of the Aaron Rodgers and a
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: lot of things, he's going to have to have so
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: many other things. And the guys who have the talent
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: are gonna have to have will have to have the
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: other part of the game at one hundred percent to succeed.
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: So I mean, you look at look at Jackson at
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: the Ravens. A unique kid. He's unique in his own way.
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: He's a winner. All he does is win football games.
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: I had the opportunity to watch Jalen hurtson high school.
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: He was a winner. He went to Oklahoma, he was
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: a winner, went to Alabama, he was a winner. And
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: there was so many thoughts about him, whether it's a
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: false narrative or positive narrative that sometimes you don't know
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: what to believe. So you have to believe the talent.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: I thought when Jalen Hurts went to the combine, he
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: threw the balls wall as any quarterback that was there.
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: He was he was six foot two, six ' one,
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: ran a four to six and I thought he had
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: a heck of a combine throwing the football. Now, what
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: happens in the quarterback position sometimes is you don't want
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: to believe what you see. Well, he played at Iowas,
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: he played at Iowa State. You know he didn't play
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: with a good team. There's so many narratives with that position.
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: That's why it's so hard. That's why it's so hard
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: to choose that guy.
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: Sometimes a lot of that that is that is why
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: we have you on the show because that is absolutely
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: fantastic evaluation. You know, you really peel back some layers
• 38:54
  Speaker 6: and some audience. Hey, bro, thanks so much for joining
• 38:56
  Speaker 6: us here on the NFL Report. You on our initial
• 38:59
  Speaker 6: podcas so you know you're leading things off for us.
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: Man. Good luck to you and really appreciate you.
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: All right, guys, take care.
• 39:07
  Speaker 6: All right, and when we come back, we're gonna talk
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: the age discrepancy.
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: Can older quarterback get along with his younger teammates? You
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: got a lot coming ahead on the NFL.
• 39:25
  Speaker 6: We are back for the final block of the NFL Report.
• 39:28
  Speaker 6: James Palmer, what is going on in New England? I
• 39:33
  Speaker 6: know we've been asking that for a while, but when
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: you see cutdown date and Mac Jones is the only
• 39:39
  Speaker 6: active quarterback on the roster, what are we doing here?
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: It's unconventional, Steve, and I think we've seen unconventional from
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: Bill Belichick before. It was really just going out there
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: and exposing both these quarterbacks to waivers and then they
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: have ultimately come back to the practice squad in Bailey,
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: Zappy and U Cunningham. I'm looking at Cunningham going, I'm
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: looking at Cunningham going, Steve, like this is going to
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: be Jalen Hurts for the next several.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: Days, right.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: I believe they open up against the Philadelphia Eagles. This
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: is going to be Jalen Hurts in practice for the
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: next ten days roughly. I was surprised at how they
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: went about it, but Bill Belichick made sure everybody knew
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: and he said it very clearly. There's gonna be some
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: unontentional ways about how we go about this, but we're
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: gonna get back to, you know, our fifty three in
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: our practice cane on how we want it to be.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: I know a lot of people have buzzed about Brian
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: Hoyer as a potential return.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: To New England.
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: That is the first time that's.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: Ever been saying number two job was Honestly, yeah, there was,
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: I'm serious, but I don't think I don't think there's.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: The number two job with the Raiders was early up
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: for grabs by any means, but it made people's minds.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: And my point of it was, it just made people's
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: minds go right, like, what's the thought here when they
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: were both waved in a sense.
• 40:55
  Speaker 6: Well, I'm telling you, if I'm an opponent, I'm claiming
• 40:57
  Speaker 6: both of those guys. So they go to a game
• 40:59
  Speaker 6: with only Mac Jones and we'll see how this great
• 41:02
  Speaker 6: strategy works out. Speaking of great strategies, and I need
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: some help with this. You got to being an omar
• 41:09
  Speaker 6: Ruiz and Bridge of Condon back onto the NFL report
• 41:12
  Speaker 6: as the elder statesman here, as someone who has sons
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: ages twenty seven through thirty, I have a hard time
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: relating them, relating to them a lot. I'm related to them,
• 41:24
  Speaker 6: but a hard time relating to them because you know,
• 41:26
  Speaker 6: it was a guy who at one point had to
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: get up and.
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: Turn the TV channel.
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: So Bridge and Condon as the real youth expert on
• 41:34
  Speaker 6: the show. You were out at the RAMS practice earlier
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: this week when there was a conversation Kelly Stafford, Matthew
• 41:40
  Speaker 6: Stafford's wife. I'm pretty sure she was joking when she said.
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: Matt so old. He can't he can't figure out these
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: young guys.
• 41:47
  Speaker 6: You know, he doesn't know how to play Yu gi
• 41:49
  Speaker 6: oh and all of these things that these guys are playing.
• 41:52
  Speaker 6: So let's chew on this little bit, Bridget, since you
• 41:54
  Speaker 6: were there, what's the conversation and actually, more importantly, what's
• 41:58
  Speaker 6: the dynamic?
• 42:00
  Speaker 7: Okay, I think this was blown way out of proportion.
• 42:03
  Speaker 7: Anybody who knew was Kelly Stafford, and I don't know
• 42:05
  Speaker 7: her personally, but I listened to her podcast, she jokes
• 42:08
  Speaker 7: a lot, and this one hundred percent was a joke.
• 42:11
  Speaker 7: Whether it's true or not, there is a little bit
• 42:13
  Speaker 7: of truth to it, But I don't think that causes
• 42:15
  Speaker 7: any concern. There's a difference right when you are even
• 42:19
  Speaker 7: between you and I were talking about snapchat earlier on
• 42:22
  Speaker 7: the podcast, and you enjoyed, were like, what Snapchat like,
• 42:25
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna get in trouble with my wife. You're not
• 42:27
  Speaker 7: going to get in trouble with your wife if you
• 42:28
  Speaker 7: use it in the right way. But seriously, it's a difference.
• 42:33
  Speaker 7: There is a difference in age, of course, and almost
• 42:37
  Speaker 7: more like culture too, right. I think the younger kids
• 42:39
  Speaker 7: coming up because they grew up with TikTok, they grew
• 42:42
  Speaker 7: up with Snapchat, they grew up with phones at the
• 42:45
  Speaker 7: every second of their life, they operate a little differently.
• 42:49
  Speaker 7: But it's nothing to be said about, oh my god,
• 42:51
  Speaker 7: they're not going to be able to get along on
• 42:53
  Speaker 7: a football field together. I think that's where the out
• 42:56
  Speaker 7: of proportion came into play.
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 42:58
  Speaker 9: I think the broader point and all of this is
• 43:00
  Speaker 9: that Matthew Stafford perhaps has to try a little harder
• 43:05
  Speaker 9: now to relate to the players because they are in
• 43:07
  Speaker 9: their phones. They're not playing ping pong, They're not sitting
• 43:10
  Speaker 9: around doing those bonding things like they normally would or
• 43:13
  Speaker 9: like they used to in the locker room in their downtime.
• 43:16
  Speaker 9: He has to actively go seek a guy, figure out,
• 43:19
  Speaker 9: you know, where he's from, strike up a conversation what
• 43:23
  Speaker 9: he did this weekend in order to get to know him.
• 43:25
  Speaker 9: So it just takes a little more planning for Stafford
• 43:29
  Speaker 9: is what I read through Kelly Stafford's comments. Matthew Stafford
• 43:32
  Speaker 9: that is in having to exude that leadership in that
• 43:37
  Speaker 9: locker room, not necessarily that he can't relate to the guys.
• 43:40
  Speaker 9: It just takes a little extra effort because a lot
• 43:42
  Speaker 9: of the young guys are so attached to their cell
• 43:44
  Speaker 9: phones and they're not just hanging out naturally like they
• 43:47
  Speaker 9: used to do. I remember Tom Brady, remember he was
• 43:50
  Speaker 9: like twenty years older for a long time, but he
• 43:52
  Speaker 9: always related to the guys because he would just always
• 43:55
  Speaker 9: know their names and strike up conversations and all that.
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: Ja pee, let me get it here, because I'm gonna act.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: Like the kids.
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: Hold up, Hold up, hold up. Why is it.
• 44:03
  Speaker 6: Matthew Stafford who's got to reach back Matthew Stafford's the
• 44:05
  Speaker 6: ones with the with the with the skins on the wall.
• 44:08
  Speaker 6: Why wouldn't these young folks JP be the one like,
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: I want to get to where that guy's.
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: Going, so let me learn more about him.
• 44:15
  Speaker 6: Why is it on the old guy who's got to
• 44:17
  Speaker 6: go fishing in the snapchat pool or whatever it is,
• 44:20
  Speaker 6: the yu gi oh card Pool to get with his
• 44:23
  Speaker 6: teammates because we've seen this, right, Look Aaron Rodgers on
• 44:25
  Speaker 6: Hard Knocks, you keep talking about.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: Uto.
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I got kids, you know all that stuff. But
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: what I'm saying, what I'm.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: Saying is like derailed Steve.
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: Well, look Aaron Rodgers was seeing a Hard Knocks he's
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: buddy buddy with all these guys.
• 44:44
  Speaker 6: Well ask Christian Watkins and all those guys, those young
• 44:46
  Speaker 6: players last year in Green Bay if he was that
• 44:48
  Speaker 6: nice to them, right, So that you know, it's like
• 44:51
  Speaker 6: I said, it takes like, hey, I've got to make
• 44:54
  Speaker 6: an effort on both sides.
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: All right, James gets back on the rails.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: I'll say, I'll say, Steve, if you remember, it's it's
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: pretty much Julian Edeman's claim to fame, right, he is
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: the one that went and said I'm going to attach
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: myself to Tom Brady. I'm going to follow him in
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: every spot that he goes, every corner of the earth
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: he wants to throw a football, I'm going to go
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: there and be with him. That is the young guy
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: approach to the veteran quarterback you're talking to. And look
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: what it did for Julian Edelman. Omar brought up Brady
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: by the way and and being down there in an
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: elderly woman's home used as an airbnb for thirty seven
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: straight days.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Hold up, I got a chance to be a fly
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: on the wall. Yeah, yeah, that's where we put in
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: an elderly listen. Go on YouTube.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Well, wasn't offered. Wasn't offered back then, guys, But you
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: can go on YouTube. You can watch my Tampa Diaries
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: as I broadcast live from that home during COVID. But
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: I got to watch Tom Brady being a fly on
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: the wall. So few of us were allowed at those
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: practices to be right there on the sideline and watch
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Brady interact with an entirely new group of guys. And
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: everything I heard from every player I spoke to on
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: that Tampa Bay Buccaneers roster was like he has found
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: a way to connect to everybody inside this room. And
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: he always heard in New England that the first thing
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: that happened when you came into that locker room is
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: Brady was one of the first people that went up
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: to you and introduced himself. He like he has to,
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: but he would introduce himself, you know, I'm Tom Brady,
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: and reach out himself. That is I think, Omar, maybe
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: one of the greatest traits that Brady showed over the
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: years was his ability to relate to every single guy
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: in the locker room. And it was a big aspect
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: for his success in Tampa, even though it was also
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: a big aspect for success throughout those years.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: In New England.
• 46:38
  Speaker 9: Yeah, not just creating that chemistry, but just to buy
• 46:40
  Speaker 9: in then that those young guys Tom Brady knows my name,
• 46:44
  Speaker 9: and just how that just set the foundation for the
• 46:48
  Speaker 9: entire season and obviously all that success they had. I mean,
• 46:51
  Speaker 9: not only was he a phenomenal talent quarterback, but just
• 46:54
  Speaker 9: the leadership, like you said, James, just tremendous on and
• 46:58
  Speaker 9: off the field.
• 47:00
  Speaker 7: Real quick though, if we have a second, I was
• 47:02
  Speaker 7: around the Packers this training cab, but I was talking
• 47:05
  Speaker 7: to people who are around that team, and they said,
• 47:07
  Speaker 7: it's such a different vibe with Jordan Love because like
• 47:10
  Speaker 7: he's their boy, whereas with Aaron Rodgers he was seen
• 47:13
  Speaker 7: more as like a godfather figure. Right, don't speak unless
• 47:16
  Speaker 7: spoken too. But now we see on hard knocks it's
• 47:18
  Speaker 7: can hardly different in New York. So I one hundred
• 47:20
  Speaker 7: percent think it's on the older guy to determine which
• 47:24
  Speaker 7: way they want it to go. Yes, the younger guy
• 47:26
  Speaker 7: should be like respecting and trying to make an effort,
• 47:29
  Speaker 7: but the older quarterback is the one kind of in charge.
• 47:33
  Speaker 7: Do you want me to be in your circle or not?
• 47:36
  Speaker 6: Bridget this is that that's such a great point because
• 47:38
  Speaker 6: this isn't going away. Quarterbacks are playing into their forties now, no, right,
• 47:43
  Speaker 6: running backs. Running backs are playing to their twenty nine
• 47:46
  Speaker 6: before they get let go. So you know, this is
• 47:49
  Speaker 6: something And this is where I'm glad, Like I'm here,
• 47:51
  Speaker 6: I'm fifty seven. You are not as old as me, right,
• 47:56
  Speaker 6: and so so this is.
• 47:58
  Speaker 7: Something where I'm eighteenth birthday coming up.
• 48:01
  Speaker 6: There you go so generational things like, let's is there
• 48:05
  Speaker 6: something where in life?
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 48:07
  Speaker 6: You just got married, right, you're going through all these
• 48:09
  Speaker 6: familial stages and generations of people and things as well.
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: What are some of the generational.
• 48:14
  Speaker 6: Things yet, like people like me or an older quarterback
• 48:18
  Speaker 6: like Aaron Rodgers, whatever that you think need to take
• 48:21
  Speaker 6: place to establish harmony so there is a successful workplace relationship.
• 48:28
  Speaker 7: I think you just have to could be putting in
• 48:31
  Speaker 7: the effort. Like I think back to when I was
• 48:33
  Speaker 7: in like the Triangle Raleigh and Durham, and I think
• 48:37
  Speaker 7: about coach Cutcliff and Matt Brown. Why the players loved
• 48:41
  Speaker 7: those guys who were such older coaches. It's because they
• 48:43
  Speaker 7: come in the locker room after and do a little
• 48:45
  Speaker 7: dance or something. Right, They're not the best at it,
• 48:47
  Speaker 7: but it's showing, Hey, I want to be a part
• 48:50
  Speaker 7: of your world.
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 48:51
  Speaker 7: So I think these older quarterbacks have to almost say
• 48:53
  Speaker 7: like Okay, I don't understand what these ulio cards or
• 48:56
  Speaker 7: whatever they are that's going on, but like let me
• 48:59
  Speaker 7: play a hand, or let me come in this TikTok
• 49:02
  Speaker 7: for like once a week or something. Let me be
• 49:04
  Speaker 7: a part of your world and show that I'm making
• 49:06
  Speaker 7: an effort. Almost.
• 49:08
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I think that's it, you know, just
• 49:11
  Speaker 9: the effort and the leadership and you know, as a
• 49:14
  Speaker 9: game has changed over the years, so too has relationships in.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: The locker room.
• 49:19
  Speaker 9: And you know it's not going away because, like you said,
• 49:22
  Speaker 9: it seems like every quarterback now Steve says they want
• 49:24
  Speaker 9: to play till they're forty five and follow Tom Brady's lead.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: There.
• 49:28
  Speaker 9: You know, we've heard Russell Wilson say it, we heard
• 49:29
  Speaker 9: Drew Brees say it. You didn't quite get to that age.
• 49:32
  Speaker 9: But yeah, it's going to be an issue or not
• 49:35
  Speaker 9: one for years to come.
• 49:38
  Speaker 5: Good stuff.
• 49:38
  Speaker 6: Can you imagine like Bill Belichick walking through like Andy Reid,
• 49:42
  Speaker 6: you know who's got that great connection?
• 49:44
  Speaker 5: How about them Patriots?
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: Can he did a lot.
• 49:50
  Speaker 7: He already admitted he loves Taylor Swift, so he's taking
• 49:52
  Speaker 7: steps in the right now.
• 49:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, that's a major dub.
• 49:56
  Speaker 6: That's a major dub, all right, Bridge of Conn and
• 49:58
  Speaker 6: Omar Wesh, thank you so much, James Palmer.
• 50:01
  Speaker 5: Bring us home.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: And also, Taylor Swift had something done to her Steve
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: that so many Patriots players wishes that was said to them,
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: that she is tough, that she is able to handle
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: the elements. All these Patriots to play for Bill Betchery
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: want to be called tough at some point. Now, this
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: was the introductory episode of the NFL Report, which was
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: just a podcast version. But you can see these smiling
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: faces of Steve Which and myself on the NFL channel.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: Whether it's on Pluto or tub or Roku or Peacock,
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: it is the NFL Channel Mondays and Thursdays at seven fifteen.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: Steve see that.
• 50:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the NFL Fast channels. You remember the word fast.
• 50:43
  Speaker 6: That's where we are because we're not just old. We're
• 50:45
  Speaker 6: keeping up with the new trends in television and the
• 50:49
  Speaker 6: new trends in Phantom for JP, for Steve Weitch, We're
• 50:53
  Speaker 6: out of here, just